Printed for J. WILKIE, at the Bible, in St. Paul's Church-Yard.
King's Commissions of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Goal Delivery held for the City of LONDON, &c.
Before the Right Honourable GEORGE NELSON , Esq; Lord-Mayor of the City of London; the Honourable Sir RICHARD ADAMS , Knt. one of the Barons of his Majesty's Court of Exchequer *; Sir JOHN EARDLY WILMOT , Knt. one of the Justices of his Majesty's Court of King's Bench +; JAMES EYRE , Esq; Recorder ++; and others of his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer for the said City and County.
N. B. The characters * + ++ direct to the judge by whom the prisoner was tried; also (L.) (M.) by what jury.
284. (M.) MARY CARDIGAN , widow, was indicted for stealing 2 linen shirts, value 2 s. 3 linen aprons, value 1 s. 4 handkerchiefs, value 1 s. a pair of linen pockets, value 6 d. and one linen towel, value 2 d. the property of Sophia Spencer , spinster; and 2 linen caps, and one handkerchief and one apron, the property of Anne Aldridge , widow, April 23 . ++
Sophia Spencer . I live on Hare-street-hill, by Cold-bath-fields : on the 23d of April three of us were at supper in a little back room; Mr. Aldridge turned about, and said there was a woman in the shop, and went out and brought in the prisoner from the street, and the things mentioned in the indictment; they were in a bundle; she had taken them as they lay bundled up in the shop.
William Aldridge . Seeing a woman in the shop, I jumped up, and ran out, and took the prisoner. She dropt the bundle down in the street (produced, and the things deposed to by Sophia Spencer , and Anne Aldridge , mother to William.)
I never was in the shop in my life.
Guilty . T .
Richard Howard . I am a watchmaker , and live in New Brentford . On the 14th of last month about 11 in the forenoon, I just went out of my house to go to Isleworth; in about a minute's time my wife called me back, and said she believed the prisoner had robbed me; I found him in my shop behind my counter.
Q. Did you know him before?
Q. How do you think he could get into your shop in so short a time?
Howard. There is an ale-house next door, and I have reason to believe he was sitting on the bench at the door when I went out. I desired my wife to withdraw, and made him strip; at that time I missed a watch from off a peg in the window; he had two waistcoats on; upon throwing one down, there was something fell heavy; I said, I believe I have you now. No, said he, it is only my knife. I took and looked in the waistcoat, and found my watch in a little pocket, seemingly made on purpose to conceal things in, at the bottom of one of the hind lappets of his waistcoat, (a silver watch produced in court) this is it; it is put into my hands to sell for a person, and I am accountable for it if lost. We took the prisoner before a magistrate, and there he confessed he did take it.
I went into the shop to sell a button which I had found, the gentlewoman took it and would not give me any thing for it; this watch was lying on the counter, I took it up and said, I would have something for the button; I had never been in London, but was coming up from Devonshire.
Guilty . Death .
Richard Fitzgerald . I am a linen-draper , and live near the Seven Dials . On the 12th of April the prisoner came into my shop, between 3 and 4 in the afternoon, and asked to see some muslin. I and my wife were in the shop, my wife shewed her some. She did not agree with my wife. She came to me to see some long lawn. I was at another counter. She bought a yard and a quarter; I changed her half a guinea, and she paid for it. Then she said, let me look at that muslin again, I had rather be served by you than your wife. I shewed it her; she bid me measure it; she sat down by the side of the counter; while I was measuring it, she was fumbling about her stays; I saw her drag something from under the bundle that I was measuring; it put me all in a tremble. As she was pretty well dressed, I thought she was some tradesman's wife. I observed her hiding it under her stays. I measured it, and said, Pray madam do you sell muslin? said she, What is that to you, if I pay you for it. There was 18 yards and a quarter of it; she said, You will send it to the Bell in St. Martin's lane; I said I did not know it; she was going; I said, Madam, you must walk into my parlour, you have got something of my property about you, deliver it, and you shall go about your business. She would not deliver it. There was a woman that keeps a fish-stall, went for a constable; the constable said, Madam, you had better be searched; she said she would not; as she advanced towards him, she dropped the piece of muslin; my servant took it up, it had been near her body, it was quite warm (produced in court, and deposed to)
Q Was this any part of that which you sold her?
Fitzgerald. No, it was not; it was quite a different sort: this is called book muslin.
Susanna Cook . I am servant to Mr. Fitzgerald. I asked the prisoner if I should search her; she said I should not, she would not be searched without a constable, but pulled up the bottom part of her stays, and said, Have I any thing or no? After the constable came, I picked up this piece of muslin under her, it was quite warm.
Q Are you sure the piece did not lie there before?
S. Cook. I am sure it did not: then she said she knew nothing of it.
I went into this shop, and wanted some lawn; I bought as much as came to 4 s. 6 d. I took out three guineas and an half from my pocket; there were other people looking at muslin; I went and put my hand under it, and asked what it was a yard. He said six shillings; and asked me if I chose any, I said no, not at present; he said I had something under my stays; I said I had not, and shewed him I had not; he told me to go about my business; I said I would not till a constable came; they took me to the Justice, and searched me there, and I had nothing upon me.
To her character.
Mary Fink. I have known the prisoner 21 years, she was born in Somersetshire. She lived in Rupert-street, Goodman's-fields, near me, in good repute: her husband is a perriwig-maker. I never heard any thing ill of her till now.
Guilty . T .
287. (M.) William Smith was indicted for stealing 20 pounds weight of feathers, value 10 s. one bed-holster, value 3 s. one pair of linen sheets, value 6s. the property of John Whitaker , in a certain lodging-room, lett by contract , &c. May 8 . +
John Whitaker . I live at the Roe-buck and French horn in Turnmill-street ; I lett the prisoner a ready furnished room for himself and his wife; they continued there above 12 months. They could not pay the rent, I bid them get out; they locked up the door and took the key with them; after which I broke the door open, and found the bolster was gone, the bed had the feathers taken out of it, and a pair of new sheets were missing.
Q. Did you lett these things with the room.
Whitaker. I did, I found him the 4th of this instant May, and charged him with taking the things; at first he said his wife carried them away, and he did not know where she was. I took him before a Justice; going along, he owned he had been a partaker of the money made of the things; he confessed before the Justice, he pledged the sheets. I have never found any of the things.
I know nothing of the things.
To his character.
Mrs. Austin. I have know the prisoner 12 years, he has worked 6 years for us; my husband is not well, or he had been here. We live in Wood's-close; my husband is a salesman, and keeps carts; the prisoner used to go with them, go on errands, and do little menial offices about the house; sometimes he has been trusted with money 20 or 30 l. at a time; he is a very honest inoffensive simple man; I always thought him an honest man. His wife used to use the poor man very badly.
288. (M.) Rowland Soaks , was indicted for stealing one linen sheet, value 3 s. one copper tea-kettle, value 12 d. three pewter plates, value 12 d. a pair of flat irons, value 12 d. one small looking-glass, value 3 d. the property of Henry Carleton , in a certain lodging room, lett by contract , &c. April 22 . +
Henry Carleton . I live in Caroline-court, Saffron-hill , I am a victualler ; I lett the prisoner a ready furnished lodging, on the 13th of March last; he was porter to Dr. Stratford; he laid in the lodging about 5 weeks; he and his wife went away without my knowledge, on or about the 22d of April; two or three days after I opened the door, and missed the things mentioned in the indictment (mentioning them by name.) These I lett him with the room; when I took the prisoner up, he begged I would not hurt him; he told me where the things were pawned, which was to Mr. Clark, at the corner of Benjamin-street.
I carried only the flat irons. I know nothing about the other things.
Guilty . T .
Thomas Gillilan . I live at Clerkenwell-green ; I am a house-broker ; I lost 2 coats on the 19th of April; my wife sells old cloaths; the prisoner was pursued, as she was seen to take them, and taken and brought back with them (produced and deposed to.)
Thomas Blowman . I live in Turnmill-street; I heard a great uproar in the street between twelve and one in the day, on the 19th of April; I pursued, hearing the prosecutor had been robbed, I stopped the prisoner; she had the two coats under her arms; I carried her back to the prosecutor's house. She was taken before Justice Girdler, and he committed her.
Mr. Smith. I was at the prosecutor's house in the back parlour; there was an uproar in the street, which made Mrs. Gillilan go into the shop; she then missed the two coats; I had seen them at coming in a little before. I went out, and met Mr. Blowman bringing the prisoner back.
I am a young beginner in buying and selling old cloaths; I gave 13 s. for these two coats, and was going by the prosecutor's house, and the people cried, Stop that woman: I bought them of a woman in Cow-cross.
Q. to Smith. How long before the prisoner was brought back, that you saw the coats at your going in?
To her character.
Guilty . T .
Thomas Hudson . I am a haberdasher , and live in Oxford-road ; I was serving a lady at candlelight, my wife stood close by the window on the inside; the door stood a-jar; a person came on the outside, and knocked his fist through the window: I was within 2 yards of it; I immediately ran out and ran cross the way; the person or persons were gone off; when I returned to my shop, I missed half a dozen silk handkerchiefs. In a few days after came Benjamin Jones the evidence, with one of Justice Fielding's men, and said he was one concerned in breaking my window and robbing me.
Q. Whereabouts did you miss the handkerchiefs from?
Hudson. They were taken from near where the glass was broke; I had laid them there myself; they were all in one piece; I had seen the piece there about 10 minutes before; the evidence said the 2 prisoners were concerned with him. Then I went to Sir John Fielding 's, where I saw one handkerchief that was cut from the piece not made up, and another that the pawnbroker's man had; the man is named Baruch Fleming ; I knew them to be my property. There were also the two prisoners, one of them. I think it was Walters, owned he pawned the handkerchief; Jones the evidence charged them with being concerned in this; they said nothing at all as I heard, in answer to what Jones said.
Q. How old are you?
Jones. I am between 17 and 18 years of age.
Q. What are you?
Jones. I was a waiter at a coffee-house in Aldermanbury.
Q. How long have you left that?
Jones. I have left that about 2 months.
Q. Where did you get acquainted with the prisoners?
Jones. I got acquainted with Walters at Statute-hall at Charing-cross: I never saw Plumber in my life before we took the stockings, (that was another offence.)
Q. Where did you meet together that night?
Jones. We met in Leicester-fields between 4 and 5 o'clock in the afternoon; Walters said he was going to break a window for some gold rings at another shop. We went to Plumber at the Horse and Groom in Castle-street, by Leicester-fields; we staid there till it was just dusk, and when we came to the shop where the gold rings were, it was shut up: that was in Carnaby-market: then we went into Oxford-road, and Walters went into a baker's shop and took the till out; then we walked down almost as far as Soho-square; we passed by Mr. Hudson's shop 2 or 3 times and looked in; Walters said he would break the window, which he did with his fist, and cut the palm of his hand with a piece of glass; the other prisoner and I stood on the opposite side the way; Mr. Hudson came and asked what we stood there for; we said a person was gone to a cheesemonger's shop for some cheese, and we staid for him; he went there, and we went down Poland-street.
Prosecutor. I saw three lads walking over the way, and one of them said he would go for a pennyworth of cheese; I followed him, and said, you are one of the lads that broke my window; he vowed to me he was not, so I let him go.
Jones. We followed Walters to the King's-arms in Prince's-street and had some beer; the young fellow that went for the cheese came to us, we gave him six-pence because he should say nothing; then we went into the Meuse and cut the handkerchiefs off; they had 3 each; Walters shewed them us at the King's-arms, they were brown, green, and white silk handkerchiefs in one piece,
Q. to prosecutor. When was your window broke?
Prosecutor. That was broke on the 7th; this handkerchief is my property, it has never been sewed on the sides; they are chocolate ground, striped with green and white.
I had been to my mother's, and was coming down Oxford-road, the evidence and I had some words; he and Plumber walked by themselves; coming down Prince's-street I met a man dressed like a sailor, he asked me if I would buy any handkerchiefs; he shewed me 4, one by one; he asked 4 s. a piece for them; I bought them all for 6 s. I went to the King's-arms, there the evidence and Plumber came to me; I told Plumber I had got some handkerchiefs, I believe we had one or two pots of beer; after that he and I went out, I having agreed to go some where with him, for I wanted to speak with him; I sold him one of the handkerchiefs, then we went into Cranbourn-alley, there we saw the evidence: we passed him, and did not say any thing to him. I had no money in my pocket; we went to a house in St. Giles's, there we lay: he left the handkerchief that he had of me with Dorothy Doyle , for his lodging; I had lain along with a woman, and had not money to pay for my lodging, so I pawned one handkerchief for half a crown in St. Martin's-lane; that handkerchief was afterwards produced against me. I gave the woman that lay with me one, and the other my brother has now.
I was on the other side the way when Walters went to his mother's along with the evidence; we came to the King's-arms, there we saw Walters; he called me out, and said he had been and bought some handkerchiefs, and said he would sell me one as I was a friend, for he had laid out all his money; I looked at them, and bought one for 3 s. I took and went into Cranbourn-alley; there we saw the evidence; then we went into St. Giles's, and there I left the handkerchief for my lodging.
Plumber called three witnesses, who gave him good character.
Both guilty . T .
There was another indictment against them.
Samuel Lucar . I served his Majesty as a soldier 24 years, and am now an out-pensioner at Chelsea , and live near Chelsea, the prisoner has a lodging-room of her own in Westminster. On the 26th of March I met her in John's-street about 7 or 8 at night at a public-house, the sign of the Bell.
Q. Did you know her before?
Lucar. I did.
Q. Had you ever been in her company before?
Lucar. I will tell the truth, I had, and laid with her before. From thence we went to her lodgings between 10 and 11.
Q. Was you in liquor?
Lucar. No, I was not fuddled, I had been drinking; I had 45 guineas in gold and some silver, but how much I cannot swear. When I came from my own lodging I had 58 l. but I had spent the rest.
Q. Where had you been?
Lucar. I lay in a very civil house in John's-street on the Monday night, and on the Tuesday I was drinking about, but was very sober all the day, and lay in John's-street that night also. I lay with a woman, not in the same house, but was not wronged of a farthing.
Q. Had you a bed-fellow on the Monday night?
Lucar. I had. On the Wednesday morning I had my money in my pocket, I counted it over. I was at the Bell part of the day, and in the afternoon I light of the prisoner.
Q. How came you by all this money?
Lucar. It was left me by an aunt, she left me an hundred pounds.
Q. When did you receive it?
Lucar. I received it since Christmas. I had the money mentioned in the indictment. When I went to bed with the prisoner, I counted it in her lodging.
Q. Did she see you?
Lucar. I do not know whether she was gone out for liquor; I put it loose in my right-hand breeches pocket; I laid my breeches under my head, and we went to bed together before 11. When I awaked I heard the watchman crying 3Richard Harris went to look for her, and we found her in the Strand, and took her before Sir John Fielding ; she was searched, and 8 guineas, a quarter guinea, and some silver was found in her pocket; at first she said it came from Cambridgeshire from her friends, but afterwards she confessed it was part of my money; the Justice asked her where the remainder was; she said it was in her lodgings, but would not say where, for that she said should keep her while in goal.
The prosecutor gave me 35 guineas to support me and my children; he bid me furnish a room with it; he has been with me night and day; I never wronged him of a farthing in my life.
Q. to prosecutor. Did you give the prisoner any money?
Prosecutor. I gave her 2 s. for lying with her, and I gave her no more.
Guilty of stealing, but not privately from his person . T .
John Needham . I am a butcher in Newgate-market ; the prisoner was my servant . On the 4th of April last, about 4 in the afternoon John Hill a tallow-chandler, came about 4 in the afternoon, and said, the prisoner had brought some sheep's fat to his house: I sent her there for some candles, and then went and got there before her. When she came in Mrs. Hill said, that was the person that brought the fat there, it was lying then in the scale (the fat of two sheeps kidneys) 5 pounds and 3 quarters of it; I took the prisoner home; she confest she had taken it, and begged I would pass it by and overlook it. She was committed; after which she sent me this letter, (produced in court.) She owned before the Alderman afterwards she sent it.
It was read in court, wherein she acknowledged the fact and begged mercy.
John Hill . I am son to Mrs. Hill, a tallow-chandler. On the 24th of April the prisoner brought the suet of 2 mutton kidneys to sell; I bought it of her: there was a butcher in the shop that knew her, and told me afterwards where she lived, and I went and told the prosecutor of it.
I kept that fat from time to time to make a suet dumpling, and at last put it among the kitchen stuff.
Prosecutor. If that had been the case, the kitchen stuff is not allowed her.
Guilty . T .
294. (L.) Susanna Garrett , spinster , was indicted for stealing 3 linen curtains, value 50 s. 49 yards of worsted damask, 3 worsted bed curtains, 3 vallens, 7 yards of linen and woolen cloth, 13 yards of harrateen, 2 yards of mazarine, 6 breadths of blue china, 2 other pieces of china, 5 yards of linen cloth, one damask table cloth, one diaper ditto, one stewpan, one flat iron, 3 yards of nankeen, 2 pair of cotton stockings, one bed-tick, 2 pair of silver buckles, 2 green window curtains, one head cloth for a bed, one remnant of harrateen, 4 bed-ticks, 3 remnants of linen, 2 pair of silver knee buckles, 2 odd buttons set in silver, 2 pair of stone-studs set in silver, one linen counterpane, 4 linen curtains, one copper drinking-pot, one silver table spoon, one silver tooth-pick case, 10 breadths of green worsted damask, one green china head-cloth, one teaster for a bed, one curtain, 4 other curtains, on sattin waistcoat, 34 pieces of crimson damask, 7 pieces of yellow harrateen, 2 pieces of nankeen, a remnant of crimson damask, 2 linen table cloths, 2 pair of ruffled sleeves, a remnant of gold and silver brocaded silk, a pottage-pot, 2 yards of Manchester velvet, a silver medal, 5 yards of green cloth serge, 4 bound books, one brass sender, and one cloth roquelaure the property of Richard Chillingworth , April 30 . ++
Richard Chillingworth . I am an upholsterer and broker , in Water-lane, Black-friars ; the prisoner was servant to me about 7 months: about 3 or 4 months ago I began to miss things; when I asked the prisoner if she knew any thing of them, she would say, no; this has been her answer in common. At last, I got a warrant and took her up; she owned she had taken all the things, and begged
Q. Who is Mrs. Lloyd?
Chillingworth. She did live in Poppin's-alley, but is since dead; she was an intimate acquaintance of the prisoner's. I kept the prisoner afterward, in hopes she would get the things replaced.
Q. How long after this did you keep her in your house?
Chillingworth. I kept her about a month after, and waited upon one of her relations, and asked her if she would be so good as to assist her to fetch the things out; she told me the prisoner had been so expensive to her relations, that she would not do it; then I told the prisoner I would not lose my goods, and if she could not get them out, I must take another method; she said she would write to her aunt in the country, and put it off from time to time, so I was resolved to take her up.
Q. How long after this relation refused to take the things out was it that you took her up?
Chillingworth. I believe it was within a fortnight; I took her before my Lord-Mayor, there she acknowledged that she had been guilty of taking every thing mentioned in the indictment, and that they were in pawn; I found out the woman that sent them to pawn, that was Mrs. Lloyd, who acknowledged she sent her servant named Clifford with them to pawn, and the places where they were pawned; some at Mr. Wilmot's, some at the corner of Stonecutter-street in the Fleet-market, and other places, (the goods mentioned in the indictment produced in court.)
Jane Clifford . I lived servant with Mrs. Lloyd; she sent me with these things to pawn, some to Mr. Wilmot, some to Mr. Patterson, some to Mr. Sclater, and a roquelaure to Mr. Gobbin, pawnbrokers; the prisoner used to be at Mrs. Lloyd's every night, and brought them at separate times; I did not know they were stolen.
John Piercey , servant to Mr. Wilmot, Thomas Cotteril , servant to Mr. Patterson, and Mr. Sclater, each mentioned the goods they took in of Clifford at separate times, which were deposed to by the prosecutor as his property; William Pain , the constable deposed, he found the goods at their respective houses.
I had not a farthing of the money; this Clifford fetched them from our house at different times; they promised me I should have them again. My master knew of it 3 or 4 months before Mrs. Lloyd died. She had a flattering tongue, and said, I should have them all to be put into their places again.
Q. to prosecutor. If you could have got your goods back again, should you have prosecuted the prisoner?
Prosecutor. No, I should not.
295. (M.) Joseph Nichols was indicted for stealing 2 linen shirts, value 2 s. one pair of stockings, value 2 d. one dimity night-cap, value 2 d. 2 silk handkerchiefs, value 12 d. the property of John Mears ; 5 iron rings, and 5 iron bolts, value 5 s. the property of John Jaques , April 20. *
John Mears . I live in David-street, Berkley-square , with Mr. Jaques, a coach-maker . On the 14th of April I brought 2 shirts, a pair of stockings, and a dimity night-cap, tied up in a silk handkerchief to our shop, and laid them on my box under the bench; I missed them on the 17th at night; the prisoner worked in the shop; I heard he had but an indifferent character; I laid the fellow handkerchief to that loose on the bench, in order to find out the thief, on the Thursday night; and on the Sunday the prisoner came in and went up stairs, and came down again; after which, my handkerchief was missing. Charles Hammond the apprentice was at watch, who came and told me he saw the prisoner take it: we went a little way with the prisoner and took him into a public-house, and charged him with it; he took it out of his pocket and delivered it to me; he said he took it to wear that day, and intended to return it again: he was taken to the Round-house and searched, and one ring and 5 bolts and nuts were found upon him; then we went to his lodgings, and there we found 2 more rings, they are called poll rings, used in coach-making; (the handkerchiefs produced and deposed to) he never would own to the taking any of my other things.
John Jaques . I am a coach-maker; the prisoner was my servant as a labourer ; when the things were found, the prisoner was taken before Justice Wright; there he owned in my hearing he had taken these 3 rings, and 2 more from me, and sold the 3 to the man that made them.
Q. What are they worth?
Jaques. They cost me 15 d. a piece.
Gilbert Silliocke . I am servant to Mr. Jaques; the prisoner was hired as a labourer, and had been there 10 days. On the 16th of April, I was told, Mears missed his things; we enquired, but could hear nothing of them: we suspected the prisoner: we laid a scheme to catch him. I sent him up stairs to where the poll rings were; Hammond was above, he came down and said, he saw the prisoner take a ring out of the drawer, and after that he said, he saw him take Mears's handkerchief: I was by when he was searched, and saw a poll ring, 5 bolts, and the silk handkerchief found upon him: I heard him own before the Justice, he had taken and sold some rings in Newtoner's-lane.
The prisoner in his defence said, he had been to do a job to a coach, and he put the rings and bolts in his pocket to have of different sizes to fit, and he had forgot to take them out of his pocket when he returned; but upon Silliocke being asked about it, he said, the prisoner was only employed as a labourer, and not in the coach-making way. He called John Reed and William Simdon , who said, they never heard any ill of him.
Guilty of stealing the rings, bolts, and one handkerchief . T .
Hugh Wallis . I live at Cow-cross , and am a pawnbroker . On the 15th of last month, about half an hour after 8 at night, I heard a blow at my window, which broke the glass, but I did not see the hand; there were six gold rings and three silver table spoons hanging just by where the glass was broken, taken away; I went out immediately, but saw nobody: about three or four days after, I was informed by a neighbour the prisoner was taken up; I went to New-Prison, and enquired of him about them; he told me one Carral was concerned with him; that Carral broke the window and took the things away, and that he stood opposite the way at the time.
Q. What is a mill?
Carral. That is to break a window. He asked me to go with him: we went into Cow cross, we had not an opportunity to break it at first; said he, I will not break it, do you break it; I went and broke it with my left-hand, and took out the things with my right: there were six gold rings and three table spoons; the prisoner stood on the other side the way at the time. he ran one way and I another; I sold them to Old Bob that buys stolen things, he lives on the back side of Blackfriars church, and keeps a chandler's shop.
Q. What did he give you for them?
Carral. He gave us 35 s. 6 d. for them, and out of that I spent a shilling: I gave Murphy half a crown, and was to give him half a guinea more; I lost a five and three penny piece of it out of my pocket.
I was going one night to look for work; I met this fellow, he asked me to go with him to break some windows to make some money; I met him at the bottom of Clerkenwell-green; he went with me into Cow-cross; going along he broke a window. I went over the way, the glass fell about, I went to see for him and he was gone; there were three spoons and some gold rings taken out of the place; nobody charged me with it; I went about my business; after that, I went down to Wapping and met a young man coming back, who said he met such a one, who had such things in his pocket, and in four days after I met him, and asked him to be a penny towards a pint of beer; he took me to Islington and gave me part of two pots; I had no money, and he lent me 6 d. that is all I know of it.
Guilty . T .
There was another indictment against him for stealing some cocks and bens.
297. (M.) Sarah Waldern , spinster , was indicted for stealing one 3 l. 12 s. piece, one guinea, and a steel tobacco-stopper, the property of William Fricker , in the dwelling-house of the said William , March 29 . *
William Fricker . I live in Shoreditch ; the prisoner was my servant . About the 29th of March I lost a 3 l. 12 s. piece out of one bag, and a guinea out of another, in a drawer in my chamber where I lie, and also a steel tobacco-stopper from the same drawer.
Q. When had you seen the money last?
Fricker. About a week or a fortnight before they were missing. There were between 30 and
Q. What was said to her in order to induce her to own it?
Fricker. I said, if she would, I would be kind to her; we were apprehensive there was some body concerned with her. So Mr. Lewis talked to her to persuade her to tell what she had done with the money; and at last she confessed she had taken a 3 l. 2 s. and a guinea out of the drawer in my room. This key (producing one) she took out of her pocket; it will open every lock in my house of the size, except the flap of my bureau; and my wife found this steel tobacco-stopper (producing one) upon the prisoner; this was in my bureau where the money was.
Q. Did you see your wife find the tobacco stopper?
Fricker. No; I was not present then.
Q. How long time might it take from the first of her denying it, till she acknowledged it?
Fricker. I believe it was a couple of hours.
Q. Did she come without a constable to the Angel and Crown?
Fricker. She did voluntarily.
Q. Did not you over and over again tell her, if she would confess she took the money, she should have no harm done to her?
Fricker. I did.
William Lewis . On Monday the 14th of April, I was sent for by the prosecutor, to know if I knew the tobacco-stopper; I looked at it, and said I made it for Mr. Fricker; we went to Whitechapel; I went to the prisoner's new master, I desired him to let her go a little way with me; as we were coming in the street, she cry'd, and begged of me not to take her up, before I said a word about the affair.
Q. Had you told her who wanted her?
Lewis. I told her her master was at the Angel and Crown; she begged I would not take her up and put her into goal, for she knew nothing at all of what was laid to her charge. When we got her to the Angel and Crown, she was asked if she would tell what was become of the money; and it was told her, if she would tell, her master would be favourable to her; she said, she knew nothing at all of the matter. I had this tobacco-stopper in my hand, I shewed it her, and asked her how she came by that? She said first of all, she took it out of a bag from off a shelf one day as she was dusting the room; but there is never a shelf in that room; I said, her master and mistress would take their oaths it was in the drawer where the money was taken from; then she confessed directly the taking the 3 l. 12 s. I asked her what day of the month it was? She could give no answer to that, but said it was between two or three o'clock in the afternoon; I asked her for the key with which she unlocked her master's drawers; she said she had left her keys at home; I said, feel in your pocket; she pulled out a bunch of keys; I said, Which is the key you opened the drawers with? She gave it me; I took it from the bunch; then she asked to go out into the yard with me; we went out; then I asked her concerning the money her master missed; she said she took but one guinea; I asked her what use she had put it to She said one half guinea went towards buying a pair of new stays; I asked her what she did with the other half guinea? She said she had bought coloured aprons with it; I said, I am certain sure your master will be favourable to you. if you do but let him know what you have done with the cash. She owned to me, she opened four drawers several times in the same chest.
Q. How old is she?
Lewis. She is not 18 years of age.
Q. Did she make any confession before Mr. Fricker and you had made a promise to be favourable?
Lewis. No, she did not.
William Goodman . On the 14th of April, after dinner, I was at a public-house, Mr. Fricker and Mr. Lewis were there, they asked me to take a walk to Whitechapel; I went with them; we went into the Angel and Crown, and Mr. Lewis went and brought the girl; this tobacco-stopper was produced, Mr. Lewis said he made it. I told the girl there was a 3 l. 12 s. and a guinea missing, and if she would tell what was become of them, they would be kind to her. I heard her say she had taken the guinea out of Mr. Fricker's bag, and the 3 l. 12 s. out of the other bag.
Q. What did you understand by their being kind to her?
Q. Supposing no promise had been made, was there any probability of any confession being made?
Goodman. No, there was not.
Q. When was this promise first made?
Goodman. It was made her before she was carried before the Justice.
Q. Was she in custody at the time?
Goodman. She was not.
Henry Urswell . I know just as much as has been said. She was asked to confess, and I heard her master promise to be favourable; and not only so, but after all this, there was a gentleman, a grocer, who was sent for; Mr. Fricker and that gentleman had some discourse together; she did confess it upon their discourse. The girl was set at liberty.
I am innocent. The gentleman told me, if I would not confess, he would take away my life.
To her character.
Q. How old is she?
Pratt. I believe she is about 17 years of age; her friends live at Wantage; she lived with me more than two years, during that time she behaved honest and faithful; she left me about two years ago; her family are people of credit and reputation.
Mrs. Armstead. I have known her twelve months, she is of good character as far as ever I heard, till this affair; I know her friends in the country well, they are all people of reputation.
298. (M.) Margaret Clough , spinster, was indicted for marrying James Doddington , on the 29th of May, in the third year of his present Majesty , her former husband, John Moreton , being then living, and in full life . ++
There was no evidence that could prove a marriage to Moreton.
She was acquitted .
299. (M.) Anne Stoakes , spinster , was indicted for stealing one linen apron, value 1 s. one linen shift, value 2 s. and one copper saucepan, value 1 s. the property of Esther Hebbert , spinster ; and two copper saucepans, value 2 s. the property of Judith Wrighton , widow, March 6 . ++
Esther Hebbert . I am a mantuamaker and lodge in Castle-street, Piccadily ; the prisoner had been my apprentice two years and two months; I missed some shifts about a fortnight or three weeks before Easter; then I was advised to open the prisoner's box, which I did; then I found one of my shifts and a handkerchief in it, and one of the keys of my drawers was in her box; when I told her I had been robbed, she coloured, and asked me what I had lost; she advised me to go to the cunning man; I said I would not go to the d - l in any respect; after I had found the things, I went to her mother and father, and said I would not keep her in my house; they brought me a paper to sign, to shew that I had no debt or demand upon her, and I would not sign it; after that I missed two saucepans, I charged her with them; she said an old woman had come and taken them. I thought to change the indentures were sufficient. I missed only the shifts when I discharged her; then I went to Mr. Gunston's, a pawnbroker, and found a saucepan, a shift, and an apron; before I went there, the father affronted me in the street very much, and said he would take me up for attempting his character; then I took out a warrant against the girl, fearing he should do me an injury. She was taken up and committed; she would not own to any one thing before the magistrate.
Q. If the father had not abused you as you say, should you have done as you have?
E. Hebbert. No.
Q. Did you make her any promise?
E. Hebbert. I said, if she would confess what she had done with the things, I would not meddle with her; this I said to the father: then she said she had taken the shift and lent it to a girl that was going to be married, and she took my key in order to put it up again.
Q. Who found her in cloaths?
E. Hebbert. Her father and mother did.
Q. Did you not use to take the girl to plays?
E. Hebbert. Her father ordered me to go to the play with her as her guardian, as she was young.
Q. Who paid for seeing the plays?
E. Hebbert. He used to give her money to pay for me and herself, and my cousin when she went. I have been a school-mistress; I brought her up at school; there is but one saucepan mine, theJudith Wrighton that lodges with me.
John Collier . I am a servant to Mr. Gunston, a pawnbroker; here are three saucepans, a shift, and an apron (produced in court); I took in one saucepan and apron of the prisoner at the bar; the saucepan on the 7th of March, the apron the 14th of April; she pledged them as the property of her father, James Stoakes .
Q. to prosecutrix. How old is the prisoner?
Prosecutrix. She is between 13 and 14 years old; I have known her six years.
The prisoner said nothing in her defence.
To her character.
Q. How old is your daughter?
Stoakes. She was twelve years of age last April, but we put her a year forward when bound, that she might not be thought too young. I wish she had went to her grave when I bound her to that gentlewoman, she took her to all plays.
Q. Did you pay for her and the mistress too?
Stoakes. No; I know no more of her going to plays than the farthest man in the world; I never was at a play in my life; I have no money to go to plays; I am a poor man; how did she think I could come at six or seven shillings to pay for her, her mistress, and companions?
Mr. Garnet. I have known her from a child; I have never heard the least ill of her before this; her father is a very honest man.
A Witness. I never heard any thing bad of her character in my life till now, and her father is an honest industrious man.
Elizabeth Tweed . I keep a milliner's and haberdasher's shop in Holbourn ; I have a shop and parlour in the dwelling-house of Edward Parker ; the prisoner was my servant ; on the day after she came to live with me I was robbed of ten guineas, which was the 23d of April; I had thirty eight guineas in a box in a drawer in the parlour, which is on the same floor with the shop; that day I had occasion to pay 5 l. odd to my stay-maker; I carried the box into the shop to pay it; it was all loose; the prisoner sat in the window in the parlour at work; when I had done, I carried the box back into the parlour, and did not lock it up, and I apprehend she took the money after I had left it there to go into the shop to speak to a gentleman; she went from me on the Wednesday following.
Q. How came she to go away?
E. Tweed. She told me her mother had got a better place, and seemed to be willing to go; so upon that, I was willing she should go; and on the Wednesday after, I missed ten guineas; my mind was a little confused that I could not justly tell at first; I sat down and counted it, and looked at my bills that I had paid, and found I had lost that money; then I went to a gentlewoman that her mother washes for, who sent her maid for the prisoner's mother; after that Mrs. Clark and the mother went and brought the girl to me; when she came, I asked how she could use me so ill as to rob me of so much money; she denied it some time; Mrs. Clark took her into the back parlour, and in a few minutes she came out, and said the girl owned it: then I went in, she owned to me she had taken four guineas.
Q. Did she say what she had done with it?
E. Tweed. She said she had taken some things out of pawn with some of it, and bought some things. I asked her when she took it; she said she took it after I brought the box into the parlour, after I was returned, the day I paid for my stays.
Q. Did you know her mother before?
E. Tweed. I never had seen her mother before.
Q. Upon whose recommendation did you take the girl?
E. Tweed. I took her upon her looks; I thought she looked like a very honest creditable girl; the mother said she would go and see for some of the money; out of mercy and tenderness to the mother, as she seemed to be in so much sorrow and grief, I would have let her go, if I could have got my money again.
Q. Did you get your money again?
E. Tweed. I did not; they told me if I took her to a Justice, it was a capital crime, and it would take her life. I kept her in Mrs. Clark's house till half an hour after nine o'clock; then the mother and she went to my house; the mother went
Q. What did the prisoner say to the charge before the Justice?
E. Tweed. She owned she had taken four guineas, and owned to no more.
Edward Parker . I am a housekeeper in Holbourn; I lett the prosecutrix a shop and parlour in my house. On the 1st of May I came home about eleven o'clock, and found this lady and the prisoner in my parlour along with my wife; the lady declared the prisoner had robbed her of ten guineas; I applied to the prisoner, and said, My girl, have you robbed your mistress of this sum? she made no answer; I asked her again without any threats; she told me she had, but said, I did not take ten guineas, I only took four; said I, you may as well tell the truth, it will be no more criminal to take ten than four, and you will have a greater claim for clemency of your mistress if you confess: she then said she did take ten, and had given her mother five guineas, and had taken her own cloaths out of pawn, and other things for another girl her acquaintance; and had bought some things, mentioning a pair of shoes, which she had on her feet; I advised the prosecutrix to stay, and not charge a constable if she could recover the money, as the girl was young; I advised her not to prosecute her, as it was a capital offence; it was the prisoner's own desire to stay in the shop, and the prosecutrix desired me to go to the mother in the morning, but the prisoner made her escape in the morning; after that, there were people sent to take up the mother; she was taken up, and another person; they said they would produce the girl, and before Mr. Fielding I heard the girl acknowledge she had taken only four guineas; the morning after the girl made her escape, the mother and a gentleman came to me, and made proposals of giving five guineas, and a note for the rest of the money.
Mrs. Clark. The prosecutrix came to me on the 30th of April, and told me she had been robbed of ten guineas by the girl at the bar; I said, I would send for the mother, accordingly I did; when she came, I acquainted her with what her mistress had told me; she said, she knew she had some money, but did not know how she came by it: then I went with the mother, to fetch the girl from the mother's house; we brought her to my house; I took her into the back parlour, and said, if she would tell the truth I would intercede with her mistress for her; then she owned she had taken four guineas and bought some things, and taken some things out of pawn; she went from my house about nine o'clock at night.
I went to Mrs. Clark's house, and by my mistress's desire, she told my mother she would let me be at her house till 12 the next day; my mother did not come till four in the afternoon; when she came, she said she could not get the money that my mistress charged me with; my mother went home, and my mistress took me to Mr. Parker's house. and told him I had robbed her of ten guineas; I told him I had not; he said, I might as well say it, it would be all the same, and I did not own to it a great while; Mr. Parker bid me say my mother had five guineas, and I had the rest; I said, if I should say that I should say a very false thing; my mistress took me into the house, and said she would lock me up; she locked me into the shop, and I remained there till three in the morning; she imagined I was going to get out, and I was not; she got out of bed and dragged me from the counter, and struck me two or three times, she would not let me sit down nor lean upon the table or chair; I said, I could not stand without sitting down on the floor: she dragged me from the floor, and called the watchman, no watchman came; she got into the bed and left the key in the door; I let myself out, and locked the door and went away; and after that, I heard my mother was taken up, then I went and delivered myself up.
Q. to prosecutrix. Is this true that she has been relating as to your behaviour to her?
Prosecutrix. It is utterly false.
Parker. What the prisoner has said relating to me is utterly false. I never bid her say her mother had five guineas, I only desired her to tell the truth.
For the prisoner.
Major Purslow. I am a pensioner at the Charter-house; this day fortnight I was going to the other end of the town, I met the prisoner and her mother; the mother had been servant to me several years; she stopped me, and told me she hadJohn Fielding ; she was never charged with a constable from the Wednesday till the Friday; there the mother surrendered up the girl; they wanted the girl to confess to 10 l. and they charged the mother with five of it.
Q. Did you hear them persuade her?
Purslow. No, I did not: but I am telling your Lordship, they were willing to make it up.
Edward Reed . I am a silver-chaser, and live in Addle-street; the prisoner is about 17 or 18 years of age; I have trusted her in my house time after time, by herself, and I have a great deal of plate in my house at times; I never knew any thing dishonest of her in my life; the mother washes for me, and is a very honest sort of a woman.
Richard Smith . I have known the prisoner from a child; I never heard any thing amiss of her before this in my life: I was along with these people at Parker's house; Mr. Parker abused me, and called me bully; I was there as an officer; Mr. Major took me along with them.
Parker. When this last evidence came to my house, he came by way of insult to the woman that has lost the money; I said to him, as he was an officer, how came he to insult the woman; said he, she keeps her a prisoner in her own house. I said, if he was in her case, he would have cause to go down on his knees and thank her for that favour, in not being put into the custody of an officer; I think that was far from abusing him.
Guilty . Death . Recommended to mercy.
Thomas Gilbert . I live in Hare-street, Piccadilly , and am a victualler ; the prisoner lodged in my house; he came about six or seven weeks ago, he was a stranger to me; he said he was a printer, and lately came from Ireland, and his father kept a public-house there; he said he lodged last at Mr. Fraizer's, in Rupert-street; I said, if you'll go there I will enquire your character; we went there; Mr. Fraizer told me he had been thereabout 5 or 6 weeks, and that the prisoner had an uncle in Pall-mall had passed his word for his lodging, but finding him extravagant he stopped his hand; I asked the prisoner what he intended to do, in case he came to lodge with me, for the room was half a crown a week; he said, he had 80 l. a year in Ireland, and he was going to draw upon his father, and he would soon go to his father; I said, if you chuse to go to work, I will recommend you to a printer; I spoke to Mr. Towers, a printer; he came, but the prisoner said he could live without it, he would not work at all; he paid my wife half a crown before-hand: I was after that taken ill; he asked my wife leave to come up stairs to ask me how I did, on Monday the 28th of April; my watch was hanging under a looking-glass by my bed-side; I missed my watch on the Thursday following; then I had wrote a letter, and wanted to seal it; I was going up for my watch to seal it with my seal; the prisoner said, you need not fetch your seal, I can seal it; he took and sealed it with his finger; I said it was done in a slovenly manner; I went up for my watch and it was gone; I enquired, and found neither my wife nor my servant knew of it; then I said, there is a thief in the house; my wife gave me a tap on the shoulder, I went with her into another room; she told me he had run up a score of 7 s. and that he had been seen to change a guinea in Piccadilly; then I took the prisoner into the parlour, and insisted upon his telling me where he got that guinea he had changed at the Robin Hood in Piccadilly; he said, he would tell me directly, and desired me to go with him to Westminster, and he would shew me the person that gave it him; I went with him; he shewed me a house, but no person could we find; we came home, andJohn Fielding 's; when we came to Covent-garden, he confessed he had robbed me of my watch on the Monday, when he came to see me in bed, and he had pawned it for a guinea and a half, in Holywell-street, near Temple-bar, to one Graygoose; I went with him there, and told the pawnbroker I came for a silver watch that that young man pledged last Monday; the pawnbroker produced it; it was pawned in the name of Conway; then I took the prisoner before Sir John Fielding , and he sent for Mr. Fraizer, but he would not deposit any thing for him; then I went to his uncle in Pall-mall, and he would not do any thing for him.
John Wesley . I am servant to Mr. Graygoose, a pawnbroker: I took in this watch of the prisoner, (produced and deposed to) he told me he lived in St. James's-market; I lent him a guinea and a half upon it.
The prosecutor used to send for me to give him barley-water; this watch was lying on the floor, I took it, and no one asked me for it: I was short of money, and I went and pawned it for a guinea and a half; when he said he had lost his watch I owned to it, and said I had pawned it; then he brought me to the pawnbroker's, and got it again; then he took me before the Justice.
To his character.
Q. Where did you know him first?
Fagan. In Ireland; his father is a taylor: he came over six months ago.
Guilty . T .
George Morris . On the 29th of April, about ten at night, I was just by the Change ; I felt a hand in my pocket; I turned round instantly, and catched the prisoner with his hand at my pocket, and saw my handkerchief in his hand; I saw him drop it, there was nobody betwixt him and me; he was searched, but nothing else found upon him.
Guilty . T .
Sir Gregory Olive . Yesterday between one and two o'clock, I was attending a trial at Guildhall ; I found a man pressed behind me; I missed my pocket-book, I charged the prisoner, he denied it; I took him out under the gate-way; he then begged my pardon, and produced my pocketbook out of his breeches.
William Woolcomb . We were upon a trial at Guild-hall; Mr. Olive stood very near me: he missed his pocket-book; he told me he had a suspicion of the person behind him, which was the prisoner; he said he lost it that instant; we charged the prisoner, he held up his hands and said, feel me; a gentleman by us said, take him by and examine him; we took him out on the back part of Guildhall, just by the gate-way; there we examined him; he said he had nothing; we made him pull off his coat; he then fell down on his knees and begged for mercy, and put his hand in his breeches and pulled out the pocket-book.
I was hearing the trials, and saw the pocketbook lying on the floor; I took it up, and put it in my breeches pocket; I did not know who it belonged to; the gentleman asked me for his pocket-book, I was very stupified and could not answer at first, but I did produce it to the gentleman, and said, I picked it up from the floor in the court. I am a Swede, and have been in England ever since the year 1763.
To his character.
Mrs. Macdaniel. I live in Rosemary-lane; I have known the prisoner going on three years; he lived in the neighbourhood, and dealt with me, he was very honest in all his dealings.
Q. How has he lived since he came to England?
Macdaniel. He has lived upon what he brought from sea; I do not know what business he is of.
Michael Macdaniel . I am husband to the first evidence; I have known him two years; I have found him very honest since I knew him.
Guilty . T .
304. (L.) Henry Shields was indicted for stealing a wicker bread-basket, value 4 s. one half peck loaf of wheaten bread, value 1 s. and nine quartern loaves, value 4 s 6 d. the property of Alexander Lylle , April 17 . +
William Mather . Alexander Lylle is my master, he lives in Hyde-street, Bloomsbury-market; he is a baker ; I pitched my basket on the 17th of April, about ten o'clock, in High Holbourn , by the Coack and Horses, a public-house, and went up into Hatton garden with two loaves; when I came back, my basket was gone.
Q. What had you left in it?
Mather. I left one half peck loaf, and nine quartern loaves; I was obliged to go home for another basket of bread to serve my customers; after that I went to Rag-fair, thinking it the best place to find it; going along Cheapside, I met the prisoner with the basket, a little on the other side Bow-church; I was coming from Newgate-street way; this was betwixt five and six in the afternoon; the man that was carrying it, said he had it of the prisoner: there was a half peck loaf in it, but that was none of my master's; I got a constable, and took the prisoner and the other man to Wood-street Compter; the prisoner seemed to be in liquor when I took him.
Charles Hill . I am a baker, and live in Blackman-street; my master sent me with a half peck loaf to Bishopsgate-street; I met with the prisoner on St. Margaret's-hill; I never saw him before; he was disguised in liquor, and had a parcel of people about him; he asked me to see after his basket; the people had hid it, and would not let him have it without a gallon of beer; this is the basket here (produced and deposed to by Mather as the property of his master) I got it for him, and being going over London-bridge, he being in liquor, I carried it for him, and put my loaf into it; he said he lived in Holbourn with one Mrs. Clark; I carried it to near Bow-church, Cheapside, then Mather came and took us both up.
Q. Did you see any loaves in the basket?
Hall. No; there was none till I put mine in.
Joseph Hazard . I was going up Holbourn-hill; I saw Mather go down Hatton-garden with two loaves; I turn'd and saw the prisoner on the other side the way watching him; I went to serve the Bell in Holbourn, and saw the prisoner come and take the basket from the pitching-place, and run up Fetter-lane with it.
Q. Did you know the prisoner before?
Hazard. I have known him three quarters of a year; I had once taken him before the Justice.
I never took the basket; I happened to go along the Borough; I met a young fellow out of place; I asked him where he was going, and which way he came by the basket; he asked me to drink a pint of beer; there were four loaves in the basket; we had three or four pots of beer at the Green Dragon; he asked me to go and fetch the basket, and when I came it was gone; I being in liquor, the people made game of me; and while I went to a public-house, the basket was hid, and this young man spoke to the people and got the basket again; I had not the basket on my shoulder.
Guilty . T .
Francis Foster . I am servant to Mr. Thomas Justis , a silver buckle-maker in Well-yard , by St. Bartholomew's-hospital; I came there to work about seven in the morning; I had not been there above half an hour, when the prisoner came into the passage behind my master's house. I thought she was coming to ask charity; when she came to the back-door that leads into my master's yard, she went as if she was going out again; after some time she returned again, and stood a small space of time; she stept down into the yard where our shed is, and took a shirt and shift from off a line in the yard, and put them under her cloak; I ran after her, and overtook her before she came to the steps that come into Well-yard; I called John Hone , and desired him to call the maid servant; we got her into the passage, and shewed the maid the shirt and shift; she took them from under the prisoner's cloak. I told my master what was done; he sent for a constable, and she was committed.
Prisoner. He does not tell the story right, whatever it is.
Mary Burch . I am servant to Mr. Justis; I took this shirt and shift from under the prisoner's arm; they are my master's property.
I want to go to the Captain; he has wrote for me; my husband is a gentleman; he is settled at Boston in New England. I was taken up and put into prison among all thieves; Justice Fielding and Mr. Welch know me, and they want to send me to my husband. They call me a mad woman: I am not mad, only I am kept from my husband, who loves me as well as his own soul. Nobody knows I am here now, my Lord, but myself. I wanted to see you, and they would not let me: I went and broke the high constable's windows; there is money enough to pay my passage. I may as well be dead as alive. They put me in a goal in Moorfields three times for the same crime. I have been put in Newgate, and the Gatehouse. If they will produce a letter that the captain does not like me, I'll agree to be hanged. He allows me a lady's income.
All the evidences being asked, declared she behaved in the same manner when she was taken in custody.
The Jury believed her to be insane.
306. (M.) Charles Presley was indicted for stealing eleven callico shirts, value 3 l. seven pair of silk stockings, value 30 s. four cotton nightcaps, value 1 s. one linen towel, value 6 d. five muslin stocks, value 5 s. one silk handkerchief, value 12 d. 3 cotton handkerchiefs, value 12 d. one stone stock-buckle set in silver, one stone garnet ring set in gold, two pair of knit worsted breeches, one cloth coat, one cloth waistcoat trimmed with gold lace, five yards of flannel, two pair of shoes, one pair of metal shoe-buckles, gilt, and other wearing apparel , the property of John Carr , May 11 . ++
John Carr . I am a Lieutenant in his Majesty's navy ; I came to the Golden Cross, Charing-cross , last Sunday night, between seven and eight o'clock, in a post-chaise; I desired Mr. Sloman to get me a coach; I had a leather portmanteau, with these things mentioned in the indictment in it; I saw the portmanteau safely landed in the entry at the inn; when Mr. Sloman called a coach, he told me he put the portmanteau into it; and when I went to see for the coach it was gone; the things were found again, there was nothing taken away; the prisoner was before Justice Girdler on Wednesday morning; he said he knew nothing of the matter; it appears he was the master of the coach.
William Sloman . I keep the Golden Cross, Charing cross; on Sunday evening last it was very wet, and coaches were very scarce. Mr. Carr ordered me to call a coach; I saw the prisoner near my door; I asked him if he would go; he said he would. I took Mr. Carr's portmanteau and put it in his coach.
Q. Did the prisoner see you put it in?
Sloman. I will not take upon me to say that; I returned and acquainted Mr. Carr I had got a coach for him, and went for the rest of the things to put them into the coach, and when we returned, the coach and portmanteau was gone; by knowing the coachman's name, I went to the coach-office, and got an account where he lived; I went to his house and spoke to his wife; she said she knew nothing of the matter; the next morning I went to Justice Fielding and got a warrant, and went to the prisoner's house again on the Tuesday morning, there I found him; he said he knew nothing of a portmanteau; I might take what method I pleased, I took him before Justice Girdler, who committed him. In our return from the Justice's, I told him he had better produce the portmanteau; he said he had a man that cleaned his coach and looked after his horses sometimes, of whom he had a very bad opinion; and he had great reason to think, from his absconding, he had got the portmanteau: that he could not tell his name, only that he went by the name of Gallows Jack; he sent a man to look for him.
George Erskine . On the Tuesday night this gentleman brought me a warrant to apprehend the prisoner at the bar; I took him before Justice Girdler; he said he knew nothing about the portmanteau, it was never put into his coach: but he had a servant who had absconded ever since the Monday, which he had reason to suspect had taken it away, he not coming to his work as usual. A man came to us; I said to him, If you have any regard for this man, go and seek after him; he said he would, and come and let me know if he heard any intelligence of him; in the morning he came, and told me he had heard nothing of him. On the Wednesday morning the prisoner's wife came to me between six and seven o'clock, and told me the portmanteau was thrown into their coach-yard; I went, and there I found it. There was a padlock upon the place where the coach went in; I believe it never had been
I was at Charing-cross between six and seven that night; Mr. Sloman came and ply'd me; I said I would, but he did not deserve serving, because he never employed me when the weather was fair, and this was a very wet evening; I went to get myself a glass of rum, a few doors beyond the Golden-Cross; in the mean time, a gentleman dressed in black, and a lady, were got into my coach; they ordered me to go to Ludgate-hill; there I set them down; I got a fare into Cheapside, and from thence came into Holbourn, and from thence returned home, and put my coach up: the next morning I went out as usual; when I came home at about ten at night, Mr. Sloman had been to my wife after a portmanteau; I told her I had not seen any such thing, and if there was any such thing missing my servant that was absconded was the likeliest person to have it. Mr. Sloman came again on Tuesday in the afternoon, and charged this thing upon me; I denied it: he took me before Justice Girdler; as we were coming back, I told him, if there was any thing lost, the servant that was gone from my service had got it; upon that, I employed a neighbour to see after him; soon after, I had intelligence the portmanteau was brought to light. I did not see it put into the coach, and I never saw it before I was at Justice Girdler's; the two people that came into my coach came out of Mr. Sloman's house.
For the prisoner.
Edward Cozens . Mr. Sloman desired me to get a coach; I called the prisoner; he went to get a dram, and Mr. Sloman put the portmanteau into the coach; two people came out of Mr. Sloman's house and got into the coach; the prisoner came and got upon the box; they desired him to drive them to the Fleet-market. Mr. Sloman came out afterwards, and asked where the coach was; I told him, the people that came out of his house got into it, and ordered him to drive to Fleet-market.
Q. to Sloman. Do you recollect what this evidence has related?
Sloman. I asked him where the coach was; he told me it was drove on with people in it; I am pretty clear in it, he did not say they came out of my house, though he said it afterwards.
Q. What was his name?
Bamford. I really do not know his name; he is called by the name of Gallows Jack. I am a coachman , and live in the same yard where the prisoner does.
Q. When had you seen that Gallows Jack last?
Bamford. I think I saw him the day before the portmanteau was said to be lost; I have known the prisoner between two and three years; I never heard any ill of him.
James Ballanger . I am a carpenter, and live at Hatton-wall; I have known him about four years; he has been tenant to me that time; I never heard any thing bad of him before this. I never saw him in liquor in my life.
Peter Vigers . I keep the Hat and Tun, a public-house at Hatton-wall; I have known him between five and six years; he bears a very good character for whatever I heard. I never saw him in liquor in my life.
307. (L.) George Sutton was indicted, for writing and publishing several letters intending to terrify the inhabitants of the ward of Aldersgate, and for devising and intending to obtain from William Tyser , Esq ; and George Lewis Carr , the sum of 20 l. each, &c . Sept. 25 . ++
William Tyser . The prisoner lives in Pelican-Court, Little-Britain. It was understood by the people in general, that the old-beadle in our ward, being a drunken fellow, was intended to be discharged last Christmas; this was talked of 6 or 8 months before Christmas. The prisoner then was a hired Constable in the room of another person; he applied to me, and said he heard the old man was intended to be discharged, and said he should be very glad of my friendship in order to be put in the place, I told him the old one was not to be
It was read in words and letters following.
London July 1st 1765
"I send to Let you know that your parrish is
"thretned with being set a fire in three or fore
"placeis at once by a set of wikid people in a
"night or two time so as you have a rite to order
"your Constables out at eney time I think you
"a necesity so to doe know for your own safety
"each to pattrole his own Precint as soon as it is
"dark I would teel my name but dare not for
"feare of my Selfe and famely bein destroyd
Mr. Tyser. Upon receiving this, I sent an order to the constables to be ready, thinking to have a double watch that night, the fellow meeting with somebody in the street to whom he mentioned the thing, and when I came home the whole neighbourhood was alarmed; I continued this watch several nights; I had a very good opinion then of the prisoner, and desired him to watch the second night, and he should be satisfied for his trouble. In about a week after he brings me a letter directed to himself, which he received by the penny-post, with the post-mark upon it, (produced in court.)
It is read in court, in words and letters following.
July 8. 1765
"Dam youre blud if you Continnew to
"walk the Streets of youre watch nitte as you
"Did onn wedsday and thursday Last you and
"your Debbyty may be asurde of haveing your
"heds Cut of and your housees set onn fire for
"Damm your bluds we will lay wate for you be
"waire of the end of Long Lane
J, H C, D J, C
directed For Mr. Sutten in the Court facein the Pump in Little brittin
Mr. Tyser. I endeavoured to find out where this letter was put into the post; first I went to the General Post-office behind the Change, they apprehended it was put in at an office in Newgate-street; I went there, and there I was told it was put in at the corner of Fleet-ditch, Ludgate-hill. I went there, they told me it was certainly put in there, they knew their own mark upon it, but said it was impossible for them to recollect what sort of a person put it in.
Q. Did you mention this your enquiry to the prisoner at the bar?
Mr. Tyser. I think I did. In consequence of this I consulted my Lord-Mayor, and we determined to draw up an advertisement, which we did, and advertised a reward of 50 l. to any person that should discover any person concerned in this affair. After this, the prisoner brought another letter to me, which he pretended was thrown into his shop, and seemed to be very much terrfied, (produced in court.)
It is read in words and letters following.
August 6th 1765
"Mr. constable blast your Eise and lims if you
"and your debbyty and Carr your Common
"councel lay Each of you twenty pounds under
"the Stone faceing the Stone Cutters in goswill
"Street on thursday nite next dam your Eise and
"limbs we will murder you all and all little
"brittin shall be Sett on fire for blast your Eise
"fifty pounds Shant du for us for dam all your
"Eise we are detetermd to destroy you all if
"yo dont comply
J C C d E C t m
Directed For Mr. Sutten.
Mr. Tyser. I had this letter brought me by the prisoner, (produced in court.)
It is read in words and letters following.
August 30 1765
"You nead not think that we had done with
"you nor the Rest for dam all your Eise and
"lims ass you did not comply With our former
"demand blast your Eise We the same people are
"determd to blow you all up before a week s
"att an End for blast all your Eise We dont
"on What We have said we will doo iff you
"dont comply we know your nite to watch
i c c d E C t m
P S We wont troble the post Office
Directed For Mr. Sutten
Mr. Tyser. After this I received another letter from the prisoner, which was directed to him, (produced in court)
It is read in words and letters following.
Sept 25 1765
"Blast your Eise and lims you may depend of
"having your brains blone out before this day
"Senit as you did not Comply for dam your
"Eise whe will performe our promis as you have
"sent one to the counter we will be revengd of
"you for it
i c c d
Directed to Mr. Sutton These
Mr. Tyser. The prisoner came to me, and told me, there was a drunken idle fellow had made a disturbance in Aldersgate street, and said he would set the houses on fire; and that he had seized the fellow and carried him to the Compter; I was at the trouble of going to the Compter to this fellow; I desired the keeper to get him to write, which he did; I did not find the least similitude in the writing, and therefore, I did not entertain the least suspicion of him, and he was discharged; this the prisoner pleaded as matter of merit for seizing of him. I began to have a suspicion of the prisoner, and thought of a method to detect him; I do not recollect I had seen any of his hand-writing: I enquired about, and collected five receipts of his writing, which I compared with these letters; I had not compared them two minutes, before I was fully convinced he wrote these letters; I then consulted several friends, and shewed them the letters and receipts, and they were of the same opinion. Then I went to my Lord-Mayor, there was one of the Sheriffs, and Mr. Sclater the chaplain; I laid the letters and receipts on the table for inspection. I took up the prisoner; he was desired to sit down and write as a gentleman dictated to him, sentance for sentence; the words of two of these letters, which was kept from his sight; I have his hand-writing here.
Q. When was this?
Mr. Tyser. This was on the 19th of February last: I had not the least doubt but the man that wrote this, wrote the two letters which were dictated to him. I am clear of the opinion that he wrote them.
Q. Whether you made any inspection with regard to the spelling?
Mr. Tyser. There are many words in the letters spelled very badly, and also, the same in that which he wrote: the letter of the 1st of July, the word parish is spelled Parrish, he wrote the word the same before us; both the first and second letters are liable to the same observations.
The writing produced in court and compared with the originals, wrote in words and letters as follows.
London July 1st 1765
"I send to Let you know that your Parrish is
"threatned with Being Set on fire in three or
"four places at once By a Set of wicked people
"in a Night or twos time So as you have a
"Right to order your Constables out at Eney
"Time I think you are Nesessity So to do for
"your one Saifty Each to pattrole his one precint
"as soon as it is dark I whould teel my Name
"But dare Not for fear of My Selfe and family
The second letter.
August 6 1765
"Mr. Constable blast your Eise and limbs if
"you and youre debity and Car your Common
"Councell Lay each of you twenty pounds Under
"the Stone facing the Stone Cutters in Goswell
"Street on thursday Night Next Dam your
"Eise and limbs. We will murder you all and all
"little Brittan shall be Set on fire for Blast fivety
"pounds shant Due for Us for Dam all your
"Eise we are Determend to Destroy you all if
"you Dont Comply
The letters compared and inspected by the court and jury.
*** The Last Part of these Proceedings will be published in a few Days.
NUMBER V. PART II.
Printed for J. WILKIE, at the Bible, in St. Paul's Church-Yard.
King's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Goal Delivery held for the City of LONDON, &c.
I Was present at the time the prisoner wrote these two papers, as they were dictated to him; I have made the same observations as Mr. Tyser has: I have seen them all, and believe them to be all the same hand-writing, upon my conscience.
Mr. Blunt. I have seen the prisoner write, (he takes one of the letters in his hand) on the direction of this, the letters r, t, and d, in the words Aldersgate-street, have a great resemblance to his hand-writing, which I have in my hand.
I never wrote none of them; I know nothing of them indeed.
To his character.
John Magriger . I live upon Lambeth-hill, near Doctors-commons: I am a fan-stick-maker; I have known the prisoner fifteen years; he always bore a very good character; an honest fair dealing man as I ever dealt with in my life.
Richard Hopkins . I live in Little Britain, and am in a branch of the buckle-making way; I have known him between 15 and 16 years; his character was never tainted in any shape in the world, till this that he is charged with.
Q. What business is the prisoner in?
Hopkins. He is something in the fan way.
Hannah Kempton . I live in Barnaby-street, Southwark; I have known him ever since he settled in business, which is 17 years; he always dealt exceeding honest with me, and bears the character of an honest man, I believe him to be such.
Guilty . Imp .
Robert Perfect was indicted for stealing 15 pounds weight of bacon, value 7 s. the property of John Denby ; one serge waistcoat, and one pair of leather shoes, the property of Alexander Rosewell , and one shirt the property of Richmond Maddox , April 6 . ++
John Denby . I live at Hampton . The things mentioned in the indictment were lost out of my house on the 6th of April, about three in the afternoon. I am a bricklayer : the prisoner worked with me a fortnight and one day a a labourer , and lodged in the house; I went after him, and catched him at Kingston, with Rosewell's waistcoat and shoes on him, in a shop, selling Maddox's shirt; he had sold the bacon at Weybridge in Surry, at a public-house.
I was coming down stairs, and tumbled over these things: they were all tied up: I took them up, and did not know whose they were.
To his character.
Q. Where do you live?
Brand. I live in Green-arbour-court, in the Old Bailey.
Guilty . T .
Mary Gibons . The deceased, Elizabeth Thompson , was my mother; she lodged at Mr. Scott's at Hampstead, Mr. Lewis keeps coaches there; my mother and I went in one of his coaches from the Blue Posts in Tottenham-court-road to Hampstead, about three weeks ago; one of his men drove us; I got out at Mr. Scott's door, and went into the yard, and ask'd for a little child I had there; my mother went in the coach to Mr. Lewis's, which is about a stone's throw distant; then I went after my mother; going into Mr. Lewis's kitchen, I was behind her. Mr. Lewis went in before her; he clapped the door in my mother's face; my mother said, You good for nothing fellow, what did you do that for: he said, I did not see any body behind me. There were no more words said about that.
Q. Did it hurt her?
M. Gibons. It hit her in the forehead, but did not much hurt her; then we all went into the kitchen; there were Mr. and Mrs. Lewis, the cook, my mother, I, a little girl, and my little girl; mine is about three years old, the other girl is servant to Mr. Lewis, I do not know her age. My little girl had occasion to go into the yard, after we had been there about an hour: I went out with her; Mr. Lewis was standing talking to a man at the fore door when I went out.
Q. What time was this?
M. Gibons. This was about five in the afternoon; I only staid while the child made water, and went into the kitchen again; then Mrs. Lewis was helping my mother off the ground: I said. What have you done to my mother? She said, Your mother has struck her hand against Mr. Lewis's knife. No, said my mother, don't say so, for Mr. Lewis jobb'd the knife into my hand. They put some stuff to it to stop the blood.
Q. Whereabouts was the wound?
M. Gibons. It was on her left hand, on the back part between the fore finger and the next to it; it appeared like the scratch of a pin, about half the length of a middling pin. I went home in about three quarters of an hour, and left my mother there.
Q. How long was you gone out of the house?
M. Gibons. I believe I was not out of the house above two minutes.
Q. Was any thing else said about it after you went into the kitchen?
M. Gibons. No, there was not for the time I staid, which was about three quarters of an hour.
Q. Did your mother seem to be in pain?
M. Gibons. No, she did not.
Q. Was your mother sober?
M. Gibons. She had been drinking; she was a little in liquor, but not fuddled, I believe.
Q. How old was your mother?
M. Gibons. She was sixty-four years of age; my mother came to me in Berwick-street, Soho, the next day; then she complained a great deal of her hand; I saw it, it was swelled; Mr. Bedford was the surgeon, and Mr. Maschall the apothecary,
Q. What was the occasion of her death?
M. Gibons. Her hand mortified, of which she died; she said she should die of it.
Q. Can you recollect what day this was done?
M. Gibons. No, I cannot, nor the day my mother died
Mary Walls . I was servant to Mrs. Thompson's daughter in Berwick-street. Mrs. Thompson came home on the Thursday, the day after she was hurt, and said she had had a hurt on her hand with a knife; I never heard her say how she got it.
Q. When did she die?
M. Walls. She died on Monday was a week, of a mortification in her hand. My mistress sent me with a letter to Mr. Lewis; the kinswoman told me he was eating bread and cheese, and she behaved very indecent, and he said if she did so again he would strike her. but he did not; but she up with her hand, and hit the back of her hand against the knife.
Q. Did you see Mrs. Thompson the day she went to Hampstead?
M. Walls. She went from our house about one o'clock.
Q. Was she sober?
M. Walls. I did not see her go down stairs, I was busy in the kitchen.
Q. Do you know how Mrs. Thompson came by her death?
A. Thorn. No, I did not; only by what Mr. Lewis said about it, the Monday after it was done; I went to him with the last witness, he said Mrs. Thompson behaved indecent; he was eating bread and cheese, and he said if she did so again, he would strike her; she did do so again, he did not strike her, but she held up her hand and struck it against the knife, or pushed her hand against it.
Susanna Thompson . The day after my mother received the wound, she came to me, and said Mr. Lewis had run a knife into the back of her hand; she said her hand was extremely bad, and it mortified. I lay with her: one morning she awaked me, and said, Do not you do any thing with the man, I shall die of the wound.
Q. Did she ever say what provocation he might have for doing so.
S. Thompson. No; she never said any thing of that.
Henry Maschall . I am the apothecary. I saw the deceased on Sunday the 20th of April, she said she had received a wound on her hand on the Wednesday; she complained of great pain in her hand, which was much inflamed and swelled; I examined it, and found a small wound, I thought it to be but a slight wound; there was no mortification began at that time; I attended her again in the afternoon; the next morning the symptoms increased; I advised her to send for a surgeon; she did, and I attended with him till her death. She imagined, when I first came to her, it was done by a poisoned knife.
Q. Had you any reason to think that the case?
Maschall. No, none at all.
Q. Did she say who gave her that wound?
Maschall. I do not recollect she did; at times she would say it would be her death, and sometimes she expressed some marks of resentment against the man that had done it.
Q. How long might the wound be?
Maschall. It was very short; I never saw a probe introduced into it; it was almost healed up.
David Bedford . I am a surgeon. I attended the deceased on the 21st of last month; I found the back of her hand very much inflamed, and the arm below the elbow swelled, and a small wound a little oblique on the back of her hand, the length under an inch, seemingly very superficial.
Q. Did you probe it?
Bedford. I did not; it was rather too much inflamed.
Q. What do you mean by superficial?
Bedford. I mean a wound that extended but very little in depth; it was what might be called an exceeding slight wound; the depth was in a very slight proportion to the length; the length might be from half an inch to three quarters of an inch.
Q. Do you suppose it could have been done with a stab?
Bedford. It rather appeared to me to be done with a round edged knife; it appeared as if a drawn cut had been made with a round pointed instrument; from the inflamation there came a mortification, of which mortification she died, which was that day fortnight I was called in.
Mary Gibons , the daughter, came and told me her mother had been wounded in the hand, by a man at Hampstead, and it was not expected she would live till one o'clock; this was about twelve. I went with her to her lodging; I met a gentleman in the dining-room: I asked him if he was the surgeon; he said he attended the deceased for another gentleman; I asked him whether she was in her senses; he said she was. I went into the room and asked her her story, and to be punctual that she was in her senses, she answered every thing very reasonably; I asked her three or four times before I took it, and she never varied from it; she was sworn to the examination; here it is ( producing it) this is her mark upon it; she set this to it after I had read it over to her two or three times; the surgeon had told her there was no probability of her recovery; upon this a warrant was granted to take up the prisoner for an assault.
The information read to this purport.
April 24, 1766.
"widow, who being upon oath, says, That on
"Wednesday the 16th of this instant, she went
"to the George at Hampstead, about four o'clock
"in the afternoon; says, that upon her first entering
"the house, Lewis, who keeps the said
"house, pushed the door in her face; that she
"asked him why he used her so; he bid her go
"pocket, and stabbed her with it on the back of
"her left hand."
The deceased came into our house on the 16th of April, in the afternoon, and her daughter with her; they had some beer. I had been out, and had no dinner; I had got some bread and cheese, and one of the common case knives in my hand, and sat down on a chair by the kitchen fire; but her daughter was not in the house at the time, there was no body in the kitchen but my wife, she, me, and two servants: the deceased began to pull up her coats a good part up her thigh; I said, Mrs. Thompson, I am surprised that a woman of your years should behave in the manner you do. She and her daughter were both drunk; but the daughter was gone out. The deceased d - d me, and said, Don't you like it? and pulled them up again. I said, If you do so again, I'll give you a slap on the back-side; I put the knife out of my right-hand into my left, and held my hand up; I did not strike her; she said, you Welsh son of a b - h, who values you? and was going to strike me in the face, but did not touch me, but hit her hand against the knife which I had in my hand.
For the prisoner.
Anne Wood . I go out a washing and scouring. I was at Mr. Lewis's at the time Mrs. Thompson and her daughter came in; they had two pots of beer; this was on a Wednesday between four and five o'clock, three weeks or a month ago; the deceased, and her daughter too were both very much in liquor.
Q. Who else was in the room?
A. Wood. There was a little girl, named Esther Burrows , my master and mistress. They first at coming in called for a pint of half and half; my master went to shut the door; the deceased said, What was that for? she was then coming in; Mr. Lewis said, Mrs. Thompson, I ask your pardon, I did not know any body was there; the door did not touch her; she had had a blow on her forehead some days before; when she had the half and half, she said to Mr. Lewis, You Welsh son of a b - h, you cannot shew such a handsome leg and thigh as I can; her daughter was then gone out with the child; this was after they had been there half an hour; Mr. Lewis was eating a bit of bread and cheese, she was sitting by the table by the fireside; Mr. Lewis was between the table and the dresser, he had a knife in his hand.
Q. What sort of a knife, a case or clasp knife?
Wood. It was a clasp knife; she pulled up her petticoats several times; at last Mr. Lewis said, If you do pull up your cloaths again, I'll hit you a spank, but he never touched her; she went to get up from the chair to pull up her cloaths again; she stood against the table as well as she could, and she flung her hand against his knife; I saw a little scratch on it.
Q. Which way did she throw her hand?
A. Wood. She threw her hand backwards, because she had like to have been down.
Q. Which hand had Mr. Lewis the knife in?
A. Wood. I believe he had it in his left hand.
Q. Upon your oath tell the Jury, whether he struck her hand on purpose to stick it, or whether she hit her hand against the knife.
A. Wood. She hit her hand against the knife, and he never struck her indeed; the next morningJohn Carr heard it as well as myself.
Esther Burrows . I am 15 years of age; I was in Mr. Lewis's kitchen at the time the accident happened; there was the cook, my master and mistress in the kitchen at the time; Mrs. Thompson was sitting in a chair, and called for a pint of half and half; being much in liquor they would not draw it; she got up and gave me a slap in the face; then she went to the boy, he said he would not draw it without master was willing; my master said, draw it, then she will go out contented; she had it; after that, the daughter went to the child. I saw the deceased pull up her cloaths 3 times; my master said, do it again and I'll give you a good spank; she did, she got up and said, you Welsh son of a b - h, you give me a slap of the face! my master had his bread and cheese in his left hand, and a knife in his right; she struck her hand backwards against the knife, and there were two or three scratches, as if done with a pin.
Q. Did your master strike her with the knife?
E. Burrows. No, he did not; she said she would slap his chops. She came the next day, and said to my master, I beg your pardon for what I did yesterday; if I had not been drunk I should not have done so; she said, she did it herself, and she could blame nobody else.
John Carr . I was at Mr. Lewis's the next day after this accident; when Mrs. Thompson came there in the morning, she begged Mr. Lewis's pardon, and said she was in liquor, and believed she had offended some people; she said it was her own doing, and she must thank herself for it; this she said several times, and was very sorry if she had offended any body.
Q. Where do you live?
Carr. I lodge in the house.
There were several people to the prisoner's character, but the jury said it was needless to call them.
310. (M.) George Groves was indicted, for that David Jones , not taken, with a certain gun, loaded with gun-powder and leaden shot, did shoot Ezra Wells in the belly, of which wound he did instantly die; and he the said Groves, was present, helping, aiding, assisting, comforting, and abetting the said Jones, the said murder to commit he stood charged on the coroner's inquest for manslaughter, April 13 . *
Matthew Wells . Ezra Wells the deceased, was my brother; I am a carpenter, and live at the top of the Hay market; my brother was a carpenter also. On Sunday morning the 13th of April, I called upon him at Marybone to take a walk together in the fields, about six o'clock; we were not determined which way to walk; we were walking beyond Primrose-hill ; seeing a field on the left-hand side the way, and some people in it picking turnip-tops, there were some lying on heaps and some growing, we thought it no ill to get a few; the people were all strangers to me; there were eight or ten of them: after we had picked a few, as we might be there eight or ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour, we came out of the field, and were got three fields from it; those men saw us coming along with the tops under our arms, mine were in a little white pillowbear, my brother had his in a little tool-bag all open; this Groves was the very man that met me with the gun, and said, if I offered to move or resist, he would blow my brains out; this was in the pathway, he followed me the space of an hundred yards close to me; I do not know that I saw him, till he ran and hallooed to the other man that is not taken; the other came through the hedge, and ran and met us; he had a gun also; the prisoner desired me to surrender what I had; I told him I had not got his property, and did not know that they belonged to his master, that they had no business with us as we knew of; I refused to surrender them; he presented the gun to me: Jones said, d - n him, knock him down if he will not surrender; upon which, the prisoner up with the butt end of his gun and struck at my brother's head, and struck him on the left shoulder; immediately my brother turned and struck the man on the side of the head with this stick, (producing a large stick) Jones was not then spoke to; he said, d - n you, if you will not fire, I will, and immediately fired his gun at my brother, and shot his bowels out before him as big as my two fists almost; he was about two lengths of his gun from my brother when he fired; then Jones cried out to the prisoner, d - n him, shoot him, shoot him; my brother turned about to me and said, dear brother I am a dead man; I said, I believe my boy thou be'st; I pulled my handkerchief from my neck, clasped my hands round him and putJohn Fielding 's; I shook my head at Groves, and said, you have made a fine job of it; he said, d - n you, you rogue, if you make any words I'll shoot you. He was apprehended the same evening; I have left it to Sir John's people to take Jones; I do not know where he is.
On his cross examination he said, he and his brother carried the pillow-case and bag, in which the tops were in, out in their pockets. He could not tell whether there was a foot-way through the turnip-field; that his brother was carrying his bag with tops in it on his stick; and to the best of his knowledge his brother hit Jones on the cheek.
Richard Clayton and James Goodwin , two shopmates, who were taking a walk that way at the time, both deposed they saw the prisoner and another running with each a gun, towards the deceased and his brother; they soon heard a gun go off; they made towards them, and found the deceased dying on the ground, and the brother standing by him; and they heard the deceased say, he never struck the prisoner till the prisoner struck him with the butt end of his gun.
James Gardner . I was with the prisoner and the man that is not taken, before this thing happened, in a field joining to the turnip-field; Jones said, the next he met, if he did not deliver what he had he would shoot him, (they had taken some sacks of turnip-tops that morning from other people, that belonged to their masters) the prisoner said, no, do not let us do no such thing as that; while they were talking, two men came into the other side the turnip-field, Groves went round to meet them, to take them while they were there, I saw six or seven men come over the other side the field; they ran towards them, Groves ran first, and called the other to his assistance; we lost sight of them for some time; after which I heard a gun go off; the man with me said, he was afraid something was the matter; we went towards where the noise of the gun was; going over the hedge, I saw a man lying on the ground and another assisting him; I went and asked how it happened; the brother said, it was the man that was standing there shot him; that man was at some distance: after some time, Groves came from towards Mr. Pye's; the brother said, see what you have done; Groves said, you rogue, you ought to be shot, and if you don't hold your tongue I will shoot you, your brother knocked me down with the stick; the brother asked the man on the ground whether he did or not, the deceased said he did not knock him down; then I went to see for something to help bring him home, and know not what passed afterwards.
John Evans . The turnip-tops belonged to me; I sold half the field to Mrs. Gardner; I have been robbed to the value of 10 or 12 l. my two servants had been drove out of the fields by numbers of people several times; there are two fields; after I sold part of them to Mrs. Gardner, I sent Groves, and she sent her man, named Jones, to watch them; the people had broke down the fences, so that in places a cart might be drove in, and ten or twenty men at a time gathering tops, d - ning my men, saying how they would serve me if I was there: some of the turnips were growing in the ground, and some were pulled up for use: Groves came to me that Sunday morning, and told me there were four bushel sacks full of turnip-tops, which they had got from people that had been taking them, and hand-baskets and bags, and that they were detecting more people; and that these Wells's came by and said, why don't you come and take ours away; if you do, we will souse your heads. He told me a man had been shot, he did not tell me he was killed; when I got there they were gone; after that Sir John Fielding sent for Groves to come to him the next day, and he and I went.
On his cross examination he said, there had been ten, twenty, and thirty people at a time gathering tops; that he ordered Groves not to go away; that he never saw Groves quarrelsome or in liquor; that he was very honest, and he could trust him with thousands
When I first went into the field there were a great many men in it, when they saw me, they ran out at the upper end; I went after some, they ran away, and I came back again to my fellow servant; he had taken a sack, a bag, and a basket away from people: we stood a little while in the field; there came five men in the field towards me, we were running after them; the brother said, d - n your blood, don't run after them, run after us, if you come here we will knock your heads; then I said, I will come after you; when they saw me coming, they ran; this man was got to the gate; said I, are not you a pretty fellow, to go steal turnips and abuse us afterwards; his brother was the nearest, I said you shall go along with me before my master; he said he would not; then I called the other man to my assistance; I laid hold of the bag, he turned round and gave me a knock on the side of the head, I fell on one arm and my left knee. I was in a maze, I really did not know whether my head was on or off; he ran at the Welshman, as the Welshman told me, as he had the gun in his hand, and the gun went off, but how he could not tell; when I recovered myself, I was all in a tremble at seeing him lying.
He called Thomas Lott , of Acton, with whom he lived servant three years; Francis Pope , with whom he had lived a year; Ezekiel Timberly and Edward Briggs , who had known him seven years; Edward Lekins and Robert Fryer , several years, who all gave him the character of an honest faithful servant, of a peaceable behaviour, and not given to quarrel.
311. (M.) James Ives was indicted for making an assault on Alice Murray , widow , putting her in corporal fear and danger of her life, and taking from her person one silk purse, value 6 d. one half guinea, and 8 s. in money numbered, her property, and against her will, in the dwelling-house of John Mitchell , April 23 . +
Alice Murray . I live in the house of John Mitchell , in Clerkenwell , next door to the White Lion: I am a widow gentlewoman that lives upon my fortune; I paid a shilling a week for the prisoner's lodging in the garret for 6 or 7 months; I have known him many years; he was a hackney writer to one Forster Powel , who was at that time my attorney; the prisoner is eat up with the foul distemper, and has been so this two years; he did nothing for a livelihood, only what he robbed and plundered me of; he was too drunken and lazy to work; I am the worse by a thousand pounds for him, and he would lodge with me; he told me he was single, and made overtures of marriage to me, but when I found he had a wife and two children I turned him off, that was near five years ago. On the 23d of April I was sitting in my easy chair alone, he came to me and said, d - n you, you old b - h, money I want, and money I will have; and held up a knife to me, and swore he would rip me up if I cried out; I had cried out murder on his ill usage before, and nobody came near me; I never opened my lips; he took my silk purse out of my pocket, with a half guinea and 8 s. in it; I fainted away; after which I went to bed, and was not out of it for two or three days; I was at that time under the apothecary's hands, very ill.
Q. What became of the prisoner when he had taken your money?
A. Murray. He would not go out of the room.
Q. What did you strip yourself before him?
A. Murray. I did; and he came to bed to me, all lapped up in flannel, in a woeful condition, and lay there from four o'clock till the next morning.
Q. What time did he go away next morning?
A. Murray. He was backwards and forwards all the day.
Q. Did you make no complaint to Mr. Mitchell?
A. Murray. No; the apothecary came, but I dared not tell him upon the hazard of my life.
Elizabeth Mealey . My husband's name is John, he is a linen-draper ; the prisoner was our servant . A gentleman had lost some things, and suspected her; on the 21st of April we searched her drawer, and found a remnant of Irish cambrick, two yards and a half of it, (produced in court and deposed to) this I had put by in the parlour, in order to make up for my children. The prisoner said she bought it in Holbourn; I found some of my clouts in her trunk, at a chairman's house; she gave me the key to open it; she said they were her mother's,
I bought the cloth in Holbourn; the clouts were my mother's.
Guilty . T .
John Carda . I am a cooper , and live in Clerkenwell-close . I was informed by my wife that a man had run out of my shop with my coat; I ran out, but could not find him; coming back I found he was taken; it was the prisoner.
Mr. Wadsworth. On the 7th of this instant (I am a near neighbour to the prosecutor) I was told a man had been in his shop and taken a coat; I followed, and was present when the prisoner was taken with it upon him ( produced and deposed to)
William Langly . I am a servant at Bridewell. I heard a disturbance at the gate; I seeing the prisoner with a coat, and hearing a person had been robbed of one, went and took him: I said, are you come so near your home to do that. He was in Bridewell before, and gave evidence here last sessions.
Guilty . T .
See him an evidence, No 271, in last session-paper.
William Reynaldson . I am foreman to Mrs. Godfrey, a silversmith . On the 16th of April there came a lady and gentleman, and asked me if we had been robbed; I then had not missed any thing; I looked, and missed a silver basket from out of the shop; then I went, by their desire, to Sir John Fielding 's; there were the two prisoners; Mr. Marsden, Sir John's clerk, produced the basket. Downs wanted to be admitted evidence, but Mr. Marsden said that could not be, he having been an evidence last sessions at Hicks's-hall; then Smith was called in; he owned he put his hand into the window, and took the basket away, and if it was not for some neighbours that he saw, he should have taken away more things, and mentioned a scollop-shell which was just by the basket; he owned he carried the basket to Houndsditch, and offered it to sale for 2 s. and that there were three of them concerned.
Markas Garrick . I am a Jew, and live in Cock and-hoop-yard. On the 16th of April the prisoner came to me about nine at night; he asked me if I knew a young man a Jew; I asked what they wanted; then Downs put his hand in his pocket and pulled, basket and asked 2 s. for it; I took it, and brought them before my Lord Mayor (the basket produced and deposed to by Reynaldson as Mrs. Elizabeth Godfrey 's property.)
Downs asked me to go along with him, and bid me say I saw a scallop shell, but I was not there.
I did it.
Both Guilty . T
Thomas Bird . On the 9th of April I had an account that the prisoner had taken some loads of gravel out of a pit in my field, and on the 17th I was informed by Mr. Wilkins he was then filling his cart of gravel at the same field, called Hornsey-field, in Islington parish; he and I went and both saw him filling it; we followed him to the back of the Cock ale-house in Islington, there he shot it down; then I charged him with it; he pretended that he had that and others which he had sold of Mr. Barron.
Mr. Barron. The prisoner had no gravel of me on the 17th of April.
I do not deny but the gravel was from that field; my servant filled it to mend a skittle-ground with.
Guilty, 10 d. W .
Mr. Truelove. The prosecutrix brought the prisoner to me, and asked if she had pledged any aprons with me; I produced these; I believe the prisoner is the woman that brought them; she would say little or nothing before the Justice.
They must do as they please; I don't know what to say; I have nothing to say.
Guilty . T .
Robert Lloyd . I keep the King and Queen, a public house in Hare-street, Bethnal-green . On the 6th of this month my wife and I had been in the bar, we had put 4 l. or upwards all in silver in a bag; she thought I took it, and I thought she took it, so it was left on the bar; we did not miss it till three days after; the prisoner had worked in the brick-fields, and used our house; the moulder that he worked for was sick, so he had nothing to do. We observed he had cloathed himself with some good things; we judged he took it, he having been in our house several times between the time of leaving the money, and missing it; we asked him how he came by his cloaths; he said his brother and sister had well cloathed him. We took him in custody yesterday; at first he denied it, but at last he fell a crying, and owned he took it from the top of the bar, and said he had been in the country and cloathed his father, and had no more than 9 d. left; his father lives at Tooting in Surry.
Prosecutor. The lad used to be a good working lad; he is very young; he was well respected; I never heard any ill of him before; he has bought a coarse working jacket with part of the money, which shews he intended still to work.
Guilty . Recommended. B .
Hugh Bready . I live in Union-court, Holbourn; the prisoner and two other girls came into my room last Monday in the afternoon, and begged liberty of my wife to let them have a little water to make some tea; they asked me whether I could be of service to a friend of theirs, to pawn a watch; one of the other women produced it to me; I took it, and said I must have a good account of it before I parted with it I delivered it to the constable, and went with him to Justice Welch; I never saw the other two women before, but I have known the prisoner some time in the market.
William Fouroy . I met the prisoner at the Two Brewers in St. Giles's, last Monday was a week, and went with her to her lodgings in Maynard-street ; we went to bed together; I pulled only my coat, waistcoat, and shoes off; I awaked about four o'clock in the afternoon, then the prisoner was gone, and my watch and buckles also; I had put my watch under my pillow when I went to sleep; I was in liquor; the constable that has the watch is not here.
Samuel Dailey . On Tuesday was se'nnight the prisoner came into my shop with one silver buckle, I am a silver-smith, and live in Long-acre (produced and deposed to by prosecutor.) She first asked me whether it was silver; I said it was; she held up her hands, and said, Thank God; I had not a halfpenny to buy me victuals, till providence threw this in my way. I gave her 3 s. 6 d. for it.
Bready. The prosecutor saw the watch at the Justice's, he said it was his watch.
Prosecutor. It was my watch which Bready produced there; I bought it at Amsterdam.
He made me go along with him whether I would or no; I awaked, and would get up; he said he should not get up yet; he bid me take care of the watch, and he would get up and go to a public-house, and make me a present; he had no money when I went to lie with him.
Guilty . T .
Robert Richardson , privately in the shop of the said Richard , May 12 . ++
Robert Richardson . I am a dyer and scourer , and live at Wapping . I went out on the other side of the water; after which I missed the next morning four coats, two waistcoats, and a pair of breeches, from a board at the farther end of the shop, and yesterday I saw the two prisoners on Towerhill; the black, whose name is Gordon, had one of the coats on his back; I apprehended him; after that I found two coats and a waistcoat in the shop of Mrs. Branch in Rosemary-lane, and a coat in another shop (four coats and a waistcoat produced and deposed to.)
Charles Ainsworth . I happened to be last Wednesday in Rosemary-lane, Gordon came to me and asked me to go and sell a coat for him; I went and sold it to Mrs. Branch, and delivered the money to him; Davis desired me to sell a coat and waistcoat, I took and sold them at the same time.
I gave 5 s. 6 d. for the coat to a woman.
What they say against me is very false. Both guilty of stealing, but not privately in the shop . T .
322, 323. (M) Edward M'Ginnis and Jane M'Ginnis , spinster , his sister, were indicted for stealing 17 silver tea spoons, value 30 s. 3 silver desart spoons, value 10 s. 6 silver salt spoons, value 6 s. one silver standish, value 10 s. one silver handle of a cruet frame, value 5 s. one silver salver, value 30 l. 2 silver cups, value 10 l. 6 silver saltsellers, value 11 l. 24 silver table spoons, value 10 l. 9 silver desart spoons, 2 silver candlesticks, one silver cup and cover, one silver bread basket, 2 silver butter boats, one silver cruet frame, one silver marrow spoon, one silver soup plate, 3 gold watches, 2 other watches, one hoop diamond ring, one other diamond ring, and other plate, valued in the whole at 272 l. 10 s. the property of James Adair , Esq ; in the dwelling-house of the said Adair , May 8 . ++
Thomas Bay. I am butler to Mr. Adair; his house is on the north side of Soho-square ; I had the keeping the plate in the pantry; I locked it up and kept the key. Jane M'Ginnis was the kitchen maid ; she asked me for the key of the pantry on the 7th at night, and said she wanted to clean the pantry out; I would not let her have it; I am sure I locked it up on the Wednesday night, and about six or seven in the morning the maids came running up stairs; one said, is Jenny in bed; no, said the other; they said the house was robbed; I came down, and not a bit of plate was to be found, but tea spoons, which had not been in the pantry, (a small chest of plate produced in court) a silver tun-dish for wine, a chased tea spoon, and six plain ones, six silver salt spoons, three silver desart spoons, these are all my master's property, his crest is on the spoons; these were taken out of the pantry that night; these are all we recovered: I was before Sir John Fielding when the prisoners were examined; I heard Jane say there, she was guilty of letting her brother in at the back door at five in the morning, to rob the house; the other prisoner was not then before Sir John.
On his cross examination, he said there were no promise or threats made use of in order to this her confession; that she said there were other things that she had not taken, but if she had it would be the same thing, for she was sure to be hanged.
Mr. Stevenson. Last Friday morning Sir John Fielding sent for me; a porter had given information of these two prisoners, so I took three people along with me, a brother constable, Henry Wright , and the porter; he shewed us the house where he had carried the box; it was at the bottom of Leather-lane; when we came into the house, Mr. Wright and I went up stairs, he set his shoulder against the door and burst it open; there were Edward M'Ginnis , his wife, and his sister, all in bed together; I heard the man at the bar say to Henry Wright , he wanted to speak to him; they talked together, what was said I do not know; we found a large white box and a trunk, as much as two men could carry down stairs; we did not examine the contents; there were a pair of candlesticks made of French plate, (they are not laid in the indictment) I found a gold watch in the window under some things, and several other things; we put them in the box, and carried them to Sir John's: the man at the bar said, before we got there, he was sure he should be hanged, and he would confess where he sold the plate, and he would leave it to the mercy of the court; he said he had sold the rest of the plate, and he believed some of it
Mr. Fryer. I am a constable; Mr. Stevenson, Mr. Wright and I, went in at a passage door at a house where we had intelligence the man at the bar lodged; we asked the man of the house whether he had lodgers came in there, and that had a box; he said he had; this was in Hare-street, at the corner of Liquorpond-street; we went into the room, there was the two prisoners at the bar, and Edward M'Ginnis 's wife; there we found a great chest like a carpenter's chest, with a great deal of linen and wearing apparel, and a great deal lay spread on the floor; I took a good deal of it out and shook them up, and put my hand in again and found this plate, here produced in the box; we brought it to Sir John Fielding ; I observed the man at the bar called Wright to the door, but what was said I know not. The box was too big to be got into a coach, so it was tied behind: I went to Sir John with the prisoner's wife, the two prisoners went in the coach: the chest was opened at Sir John's; the man at the bar there said he did not trouble himself about it, for he knew he must be hanged; the sister said the same. There were no threats or promises, nor questions, but what the man said of himself voluntary; he said he had sold a great quantity of plate to one Solomon Hart , a Jew, in Houndsditch: Sir John granted a warrant, and we went to my Lord-Mayor and had it backed. Edward M'Ginnis went in the coach with us; we searched at two houses: we did not find the man; we found Hart's sister, and brought her before my Lord-Mayor, and as the people were waiting at Sir John's, my Lord desired us to take her there; she was examined and, sent to the Gatehouse; the chest was packed up, and sent to Mr. Adair's house before we came back.
Henry Wright . Last Friday morning I went along with Mr. Stevenson and others, to a garret up two pair of stairs forwards, in Hare street; when I burst the door open, there were the two prisoners and the man's wife: I tied the man's hands together, and afterwards he said, he wanted to speak to me; he took me to the door and said, you will not get above 50 l. by hanging me, and I'll give you 50 l. if you will let me go about my business; I said, I will talk to you by and by: we brought the prisoners and the wife, and the things to Sir John Fielding's; he said before Sir John, he received 24 l. of the Jew for the plate, and he was to have at the rate of two guineas a pound, for the large quantity of plate, that there were 39 pounds of it weighed by a pair of steelyards; that he sold it to a Jew in Duke's-place, and he was to carry the remainder of the plate the next morning, to receive the remainder of the money; then he was to go abroad: he went with us in a coach to the sign of the Mansion-house, till my Lord-Mayor backed the warrant; then we went to Houndsditch; he shewed us a house where were three rooms on a floor, in the farthest room were the steelyards that he said the plate was weighed with, tied up in a napkin: we did not find the Jew. Then we went to Hart's father's; there we found one Rosey Hart , which he said was his sister; we took her with us; when we came back to Sir John's, the man at the bar said his wife was innocent, that nobody was concerned in the robbery but his sister and he: she was set at liberty. I went to Newgate, and brought the girl at the bar to Sir John's again; she said, I know I shall die for it, but I hope my father will not hear of it; she said she had lived at that place but about four months. This confession was made without any promise or threats.
John Dateham The first time I saw Edward M'Ginnis was the 7th of this month; he came to me in Covent-garden; I am a porter, and ply there; he took me into Russel-street to carry a chest to Gray's-inn-lane; there were some wearing apparel in it; this was betwixt four and five in the afternoon; he went along with me and carried a hair chest; when I came to Gray's-inn-lane,
Q. Describe the chest.
Dateham. It was a large chest, very near a yard deep, of a stone colour; I saw the chest, I saw it afterwards at the same place last Friday when the prisoners were taken; this I informed Sir John Fielding of, upon which account they were found out.
Dateham. No, I never saw her in my life before she was taken.
Mr. Adair. I missed such a watch out of a drawer in my escrutoire (taking the gold watch in his hand) I believe this to be the same; I never much examined it: it is a watch I had in trust for my brother's children. The woman at the bar lived servant with me three months and some days; the plate was missing between the 7th and 8th of this instant May.
I know nothing how the goods came there; I never was in Mr. Adair's house in my life.
My brother never was in Mr. Adair's house; I pray mercy of my master and the court.
Q. to Bay. What time did you miss the goods?
Bay. They were all taken away in the night, between the 7th and 8th of this instant.
To Edward's character.
Q. How long is this ago?
Fry. This is six years ago. I know nothing of him either before or since.
To her character.
Mr. Robinson. She lived with me a year and three quarters.
Q. How long has she been gone from you?
Mr. Robinson. She has been gone from me about four or five months: she behaved very well; she was trusted with all that was in the house; we never knew she ever wronged us of a farthing.
Burch Anderson. I have been frequent in Mr. Robinson's house when she lived there; I never heard any ill of her.
Both guilty . Death .
324. 325. (M.) James Mussin and James Reding , otherwise Reddin , were indicted for stealing three diamond rings, set in gold, value 3 l. 10 s. one topaz ring set in gold, value 10 s. one mourning ring, one cornelian ring set in gold, one stone ring set in gold, one file stone ring set in gold, two garnet hoop rings, one French paste ring, and one fancy garnet ring , the property of John Heather , April 24 . +
John Heather . I am a pawnbroker , and live in Long-acre . On the 24th of April last, about a quarter past eight at night, some ho or other my window was broke, and the glass pushed in, and several rings as mentioned in the indictment, were taken away; they were in a little case about a foot from the window, (he mentioned the particular rings by name) I was behind the counter when it was broke; I ran out but could see nobody; it was done in the twinkling of an eye, the case and all was taken away; when I returned I got a candle, and found about 14 rings they had dropped in the street, they are not laid in the indictment; I found two in another street that was at a distance: I went that very night to Sir John Fielding ; it was too late to advertise them, but I did the next day; after that, Edward Wright took up the evidence and two prisoners; I went to them at St. Giles's Round-house; I said I could not swear to either of them, it being dark, I could not see who did it; then Wright told them they might go about their business; after that Valentine the evidence went to Ned Wright , as I have been informed since, and impeached the rest.
Q. How long was this after they were first taken up?
Heather. This was in a day or two after; then Wright and the evidence came to me.
Q. Did you ever find any of the rings laid in the indictment again?
- Valentine. I am between 18 and 19 years of age: I was bred up in London. and bound to a goldsmith in Monkwell-street, named Picket; I served him almost four years, but he dying, my mistress and I could not agree, and I ran away from
Q. When did you leave your brother?
Valentine. I left him about six weeks ago.
Q. When did you receive the 40 l.?
Valentine. Just as I came up from Birmingham.
Q. Had you spent it all before you left your brother?
Valentine. I had about fifteen guineas when I left him; I spent that about in drinking.
Q. When did you become acquainted with the two prisoners?
Valentine. I became acquainted with them since the last sessions at Guildhall, Westminster; I had seen Mussin under the piazzas at the play-house, just when the play was going to break up, and I became acquainted with him there. One William Till and I found the two prisoners at the Star in Compton-street, either the 23d or 24th of March, between five and six o'clock. Till is now gone out of the way. Mussin and I came out there, and we parted with Reding and Till; they went and got a warrant for a man who had called one of them a thief. Mussin took me to this shop in Long-acre, he shewed me the box of rings, and said Reding and he should have them this night: then he and I went back to Redding and Till; we desired Till to go and pawn two or three handkerchiefs; he went and pawned them; then we agreed, if we should be pursued, to go to the Thistle and Crown in Russel-court. Then Mussin bid me go cross the way because I was lame, and not able to run.
Q. What was your lameness?
Valentine. I had got the venereal disease. I went cross the way, facing the window, and Reding to the window; he hit the window three times, and it broke; he took the rings out; Mussin was close by him; then I run away, and hobbled along as fast as I could to the Thistle and Crown; one ran one way, and the other the other; the two prisoners came in while I was there; this was between eight and nine o'clock. I met Till in Bow-street, he went in with me; Mussin had a brilliant ring on his little finger, and Reding had a gold ring, with garnets set round on his little finger; they said they could not stay, they must go out again; they went out, and come in again in about twenty minutes; then Reding had an enamelled gold ring, with a white stone in it, on his finger; and Mussin came in with the same ring on he had before; they gave me the ring Reding had on before, and gave Till another garnet ring; that ring they gave me, Anne Freeman pawn'd for half a crown to go to the play; we went from there to the Fish in Strand-lane; after that we went and lay at the Red Lion in Piccadilly. I got up the next morning and was going to the Change, and in St. Martin's-lane we met Old Bob of Black friars, who bought some of the rings, but I was not there when they were sold; the prisoners told me of it afterwards; this was on the Friday: we went into the city; when we were at the 'Change Till saw a Jew there; he went and asked him if he would buy the rings, we were all four together. The Jew agreed to come and meet him at the Thistle and Crown in the afternoon, at five o'clock. I saw the Jew in the house, but Till ordered us to stay at the door; Mussin gave him the stone white ring, and desired he would get half a guinea for it of the Jew; and I desired a crown for mine, and the other a crown for his ring; they did not sell them to the Jew. He offered 7 s. for the two gold rings with garnets, and nine shillings for the other.
Anne Freeman . I am an unfortunate girl of the town. William Till was slightly acquainted with me; I have seen the prisoners and evidence pass me very often in a night, but was not acquainted with them. Till desired me to pawn a ring for him, and bring the money to him at the Thistle and Crown; I did, and brought the half crown to him there, then they were all four together.
Q. Where did you pawn it?
A. Freeman. To Mr. Stiles in Castle-street, Leicester-fields; then Till desired I would go with more, and Mussin said it was a wrong thing to ask it, and desired him not to mention it any more: I did not sit down, nor stay any longer than putting the money into Till's hand; he desired me to keep the duplicate till he came the next day for it; and when I was taken out of my lodgings I produced the duplicate, that is what I had of the pawnbroker.
Prosecutor. I have seen the ring; I believe it to be mine, but it is impossible to swear to a garnet ring.
Mussin. I was in company, but did not know what Freeman brought back, but Reding was not by at the time.
I know nothing of the affair; I never saw any rings they had.
I had but a very slight acquaintance with the young man; I had not seen him for five or six days before he had me taken up; he threatened he would do something for me.
Both guilty . T .
See Reding tried last sessions, No 247, and see Mussin tried in the same, 274.
Anne Ware . I am wife to Isaac Ware , he is a merchant's clerk ; the prisoner lived servant in my house better than twelve months; I lost divers things, and having accused several people, I thought proper to try to find out who did rob me; I took a search warrant to search the prisoner's house; I found a china boat, two towels, one mark'd W. the other L. I found also two earthen pans; on which she was committed to New Prison. I heard her own that all the things were my property.
Q. What were the words she made use of?
A. Ware. She said if they were mine I might take them; she did not know how she came by them; she would have given me two guineas to make it up; she said she would even sell her bed to make it up, but I would not agree to it (the things produced in court.)
Tabitha Baxter . I was along with Mrs. Ware when the search-warrant was executed; Mrs. Ware said these things were her property; the prisoner said she did not know that she had ever wronged her of any thing of great value; she said also she did design to bring these things again; she had been discharged from her service about three weeks.
Mr. Forrester. I was present at the execution of the search-warrant; the prosecutor claimed these things as her property; the prisoner said she might take them away with broken victuals; she asked for mercy, and offered three or four guineas to make it up, and said she would pawn her bed to make satisfaction.
James Bartlett . I am the officer; the warrant was brought to me; I went to the prisoner's apartment and found these things; the prosecutrix claimed them, and they were delivered into my custody. The prisoner said she brought them home with broken victuals.
I was a chairwoman at this gentlewoman's house; she gave me broken victuals for my family. I have worked night and day for her, and had much ado to get my money when I earn'd it; these earthen pans are my own; she gave me the towels home with broken victuals.
To her character.
Frederick Delany . I am a glover , and live in Hart-street, near Giltspur-street ; the prisoner came to my shop yesterday about 12 o'clock, to buy six pair of gloves; I pulled down two or three papers of gloves, we agreed for half a dozen pair; I tied them up for him, and while I was making a bill of parcels, I saw him take a pair of gloves from the counter, and put them into his pocket. They were not of them which I sold him, they were women's gloves; he had put them that he had bought into his pocket; after he went out of the shop I followed him and brought him back again, and bid him take them gloves out of his pocket; he said he had got none of mine, but he pulled them out of his pocket, and threw them down on the counter (produced and deposed to.)
I took this pair from the other five pair, to leave for a lady going home; I bought them to sell again. This prosecution is the effect of prejudice, occasioned by my having had bad gloves of him before.
Prosecutor. I know they are not, I have the other at home now; he had not paid for them, and he owed me money before; there were four pair and an odd one in the parcel, when he delivered them to me again; he began to shuffle about when I took him back into the house, and he picked a hole in the paper and threw three odd ones out of the parcel into the fire-place, which made up the six pair.
To his character.
Mr. Bradistone. I have known the prisoner about five years; he was servant to me; he has quitted my service about four years; I had him in very great respect; I do not think of all the servants I had, during almost fifty years, that I had above one that I thought to be a better servant; I parted with him with regret; I would not now scruple to take him into my service again, if he was in a capacity to go to service; he has a wife and two children; I hope this was a mistake.
329. (L.) Andrew Welch was indicted for that he, on the King's highway, on Bridget Dunn , widow , did make an assault, putting her in corporal fear and danger of her life, and violently taking from her person one gold ring, value 6 s. and 5 s. in money numbered, her property , May 8 . ++
Bridget Dunn . I was at the Crown and Anchor, at the corner of Seacoal-lane ; the prisoner was there when he saw me pay my reckoning for two pints of beer; he asked me to change him a five-and-threepenny-piece, I said I could not; then I went to go home at the upper end of the lane, and as I was going down the steps he took my money and ring from me.
Q. When was this?
B. Dunn. This was betwixt nine and ten at night. On the 8th of May he overtook me, and took hold of my arm; I said, what business have you with me?
Q. Did you know him before?
B. Dunn. I knew him by sight three years, by seeing him in the Fleet-market; he struck me in the face, and took my money from my pocket, but said not a word; and with the other arm he took me round the neck.
Q. Did he strike you hard?
B. Dunn. No, it was very lightly with his hand; then I said, very well, I'll know you to-morrow; I went home for about a quarter of an hour, then I went to his wife, and told her what he had done; she said he had served me right, what had she to do with it. The next morning I went to his mother's, and was told she was in the workhouse; then I went to the constable that knew him and me; he took his handcuffs, and brought him and me before the Justice at Guildhall. I got nothing again.
Q. Did you cry out?
B. Dunn. No, I did not.
Q. Was it light or dark?
B. Dunn. It was dark.
Q. Are you sure it was the prisoner?
B. Dunn. I think it was him.
Q. Were there any lamps near the place?
B Dunn. No.
Q. Did you see his face?
B. Dunn. I did.
Elizabeth Stevens . I live in Fleet-lane; I have seen the prisoner driving a jack-ass about the market; I was in the room where the prosecutrix lodges, and I know she had the money about her, and I heard the prisoner beg of her to be favourable to him, and said if she would forgive him, he would make it up as well as he could, and he would never be guilty of the like again.
Q. Where did you hear this?
E. Stevenson. This was when they were going before the Justice.
I was drinking at the Anchor and Crown; my prosecutrix came in, and would have me in her company; she asked me to drink and sing a song; I sung two songs; she took me to another house, and gave me some more liquor; after that, she came to my house and said, I picked her pocket of a gold ring and 5 s. in the public-house, and was afraid to say any thing to me; I never saw no ring she had.
For the prisoner.
Adam Cane . I keep a public-house in the Fleet-market; I have known the prisoner between two and three years; I married the widow that he lived servant with; he lived with me about three or four months, I never knew that he ever wronged me of any thing.
Cane. He drawed beer for me.
John Beans . I am a butcher in the Fleet-market; I have known him about six or seven years; I think him as honest a man as any in the world; I should think 50 l. very safe, was I to send it by him down into the country; I look upon this to be a piece of jealousy between the woman that he lives with, and the prosecutrix.
Elizabeth Harrison . I live in Shoe-lane; I have known the prisoner a great many years; the prosecutrix came to the house where the prisoner's wife lodges; she said the prisoner had picked her pocket of 5 s. 6 d. and a gold ring; his wife said, then why did not you detect him? said she, I was afraid; but if he does not come and bring me the ring I'll have his life; but the prisoner and she are no strangers to one another; I nursed his wife when she lay-in; I was forced to get a watchman to get him from her; she said, she had more right to him than his wife had; besides, she offered if we could raise half a guinea amongst us, she would never be seen in it; we raised her half a guinea and she never came; she said it was a drunken affair, and Mr. Emerton would never love her if she did not prosecute the prisoner; that he said, he would have her a year and a day in goal if she did not.
Q. What are you?
E. Harrison. I am a very hard working woman; I go a washing and scouring for my living, and sometimes I go a chairing.
Q. What has Mr. Emerton done to disoblige you?
E. Harrison. He took me and handcuffed me, and took me to prison.
Susanna Coney . I live just by the place where this accident happened; my husband and I were at supper, as the saying is; the prisoner and another woman, which came with him, were eating with us off of a piece of calf's-head, as the saying is; Mrs. Dunn came in very much in liquor, as the saying is; she said, Andy, will you come and drink with us; he said, I am in company, as the saying is; said she, I shall never forgive you, if you don't come and drink with us; then, as the saying is, she came to him and took hold of him, and chucked him under the chin, and snugged him to her, as the saying is; I thought to myself it was very odd, so on that, directly after they had drank their beer, they went out of the house, and for a curiosity, as the saying is, I went out after them: when I was at the door, I heard Andy say, I must go home; she said, you shall have some aniseed with me, as the saying is; said he, I don't want any more; I stood and heard this, but was not seen, as the saying is: in a little space of time I came back to my husband, that he might not miss me, as the saying is, because I wanted to see how things went; so upon that, I went in again, and we had our complement of beer, what we could afford, as the saying is; after that, I had a proper occasion to go out of the house, you may understand what I mean, I need not speak it out; I went in again: and when I went out again, they went out of that house which I saw them go into.
Q. What house was that?
S. Coney. I cannot tell the sign; I know the house; I believe it was the next house to the corner of Bear-alley.
Q. How long were they in there?
S. Coney. They were in there about a quarter of an hour; when they came out, Andy said, I am going home, God bless you, and a good night.
Richard Welch I live in the Borough; I have known him about twelve months; he earns a bit of bread by industry; I never knew any thing else of him, but that of an honest man; he drives a jack-ass about, and sells greens and potatoes .
Q. to prosecutrix. Was you sober?
Prosecutrix. I had but two pints of beer that night.
Q. Had the prisoner and you any aniseed together?
Prosecutrix. No, we had not; I never drank a pint of beer, or a dram with him in my life.
John Kilvington . I keep a public-house on the Bankside , on the other side the water. On the 8th of February last, the prisoner was at my house with several of his fellow-servants, drinking a pint of beer; he worked the next house to me: that night I lost out of the same room where he was drinking, a silver pint mug, a silver salt, and a silver table-spoon; the next morning the salt was found, where the washers, belonging to the
Q. What did the prisoner say when you charged him with taking the mug?
Kilvington. He said he knew nothing about it, and said, he never had no silver to sell in his life.
Thomas Smith . I am a silversmith, and live in Crooked-lane. On Friday the 4th of April in the morning, about a quarter after eight o'clock, the prisoner brought a little piece of a knob of silver to me, and desired to know if it was silver, and said, he found it in some rubbish; I weighed it; there was about half an ounce of it; I bought it of him; he said he wanted a pair of buttons, and looked at his sleeve; I shewed him a pair; he bought a pair; I put the silver in the email box, and it was melted down with other silver; before he went quite away he turned again, and said he wanted a pair of silver shoe-buckles; I shewed him some; he chose out a pair, and said, lay this pair by, and I will call in the evening for them; he said, what do you give an ounce for such silver, pointing to some silver mugs, will you give 6 s. an ounce? I said, no; then he went away: I mistrusted he had something not right in his mind; I gave my people notice, that I thought the man had stole something, and wanted to sell it to me. In the evening the prisoner came; I was obliged to be out; he would not tell his business till I came home; when I came home, I said, what are you come for your buckles? and delivered the buckles to him, that he had looked out in the morning; he said he did not like them, he would have another pair; he laid them by, and seemed to be a little confounded, for I had several people by me to be witness; he said, I have got a piece of plate if you will buy it; he put his hand into his right-hand pocket and kept fumbling: I said, I cannot tell till I see it; he pulled out this mug, I looked at it; said I, this is almost a new mug, it has been very badly used; how came you by it; he said he was laying down a pipe, and he found it in the mud, (it was very muddy) I turned it up to look at the bottom, to see for a mark, and the mud ran down my sleeve; come, Sir, said he, will you buy the mug? I said, I believed I should not; said he, then give it me again; I said, no, I shall not; give me the buckles, he said; I said, no, I shall not do that, I shall stop the mug to know how you came by it; said he, I'll bring a person to-morrow morning to prove how I came by it; I stopped it; he went away, and came on the Saturday morning, but I was not at home; he came afterwards, and a publican with him, to give him a good character; said the man, I hear you have stopped a mug, let me see it; I said, no, you shall not till I advertise it; the man said he knew nothing about the mug, and but little about the man, only he used his house about 12 months, and had paid him honestly; I said to the prisoner, how did you come by the mug? he said he found it under the common shore; I said, when did you find it? he said, about a week ago; I said, pray how came it so very muddy, when you brought it last night? said he, then I will tell the truth; I let it lie till the tide was going down, and in the afternoon about five o'clock, I took it out. While the prisoner was with me at noon, I took down his name and where he lived; he said his name was William Brannon , and worked with 'squire Neal on the Bank-side; and that he lived at Mr. Kelley's in Black-friars, on this side the water: I told them when they went away, I should advertise the mug on the Monday morning; that I should advertise it three times, and if nobody came to own it, it was his; and when they were gone a little time the publican came again, and said he was a bad man, for his name was William Bow , and that he worked at a dye-house on the other side the water; and if he had known as much as he then did, he would have had a warrant and taken him up. On the Monday morning that it was advertised, the first person that came was the prosecutor, who owned the mug, (produced in court, and deposed to.)
I hope the Judge and Jury will speak in my just cause, and listen to what I say. I worked a quarter of a year for Mr. Roberts, at the bank side, in Surry; I was captain of a float there; I was going from the float, and I observed this lying in the mud; when I went to dinner, they charged me to keep off the float, because the tide would be going down; I saw it was a mug without a handle. It was so black, I took off the button, and went to Mr. Smith to ask him whether it was silver or not. I said, Is this silver? he said it was; said he, If you get any more bring it to me, and I'll buy it; I said, Perhaps I may; what will you give me an ounce for it? he said, 4 s. 6 d. I said, will you give me 5 s. 6 d. after that I called again for a pair of buckles I had seen before he came in; I asked for them, and what he would give me an ounce for this old broken plate; he looked at it, and looked at me, and asked me where I got it; I said on the other side the water; is it silver, said he? I cannot tell, said I, you are the best judge; for if what I brought the day before was silver, this must be silver; said he, Have you any body to give you a character? I said I had a publican in Thames street that will; said he, then I'll keep the mug till he comes: I made no resistance against it; I went to this man; he came with me the next morning; I went home again to see after my work over the water; I took the same man a second time. It shews by looking into it, that I must be innocent, or else I would not come so many times; Mr. Smith asked the gentleman if he knew me; the gentleman said he had known me twelve months, and never saw any harm by me, and nothing but what was just and honest. Mr. Smith said he could not give me any money for it, till he got it into the Monday's paper; he asked me my name; I changed my name; I had a reason for that: I, in five years, several times found scarlet cloaks, bunches of stockings, shalloons, and cloths, there is a gully-hole that runs through; I knew my own name would be mentioned in the paper the next day; and so many men worked with me, they would be all expecting a part of it; it is my fancy; this is all spite and malice; I had the care of five or six men under me, to keep them to their working hours. This gentleman holds a tenter-ground for my master, so he will not give me a character.
To his character.
John Burden . I keep a public-house close by Mr. Kilvington; the prisoner lodged at my house at the time he was taken up, then he bore a good character: he had the key of my house to let himself in and out.
Guilty . T .
The trials being ended, the Court proceeded to give judgement as follows:
Received sentence of Death, 4.
Transported for 7 years, 26.
Isabella Renshaw , William Clark , John Rigman , Henry Shield , John Bow , Mary Cardigan , Elizabeth Ross , Rowland Soaks , Mary Allen , Samuel Plumber , John Walters , Anne Benton , Joseph Nichols , Patrick Murphy , John Talbot , Robert Perfect , James Mussin , James Reding , Mary Watkins , John Surry , John Smith , John Downs , Mary Blot , Catherine Parker , John Gordon , and Charles Davis .
To be Branded 1.
The two Slacks, and Crompton, capitally convicted last sessions, were executed on Wednesday the 7th of May.