In the Twenty-eighth Year of His MAJESTY's Reign. NUMBER V. for the YEAR 1755. Being the Fifth SESSIONS in the MAYORALTY of THE RIGHT HONOURABLE STEPHEN THEODORE JANSSEN , Esq; LORD-MAYOR of the CITY of LONDON.
Printed, and sold by M. COOPER at the Globe, in Pater-noster Row. 1755.
King's Commissions of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery held for the City of LONDON, &c.
BEFORE the Right Honourable STEPHEN THEODORE JANSSEN , Esq; Lord-Mayor of the City of London; the Honourable Sir MICHAEL FOSTER , Knt. * the Honourable Sir SYDNEY STAFFORD SMYTHE, Knt. + WILLIAM MORETON , Esq; Recorder ++, and others of his Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer for the said City and County.
N. B. The characters * + ++ direct to the Judge by whom the prisoner was tried; also (L.) (M.) by what Jury.
Q. Where is this stable.
Grant. It is at Clapton , in the parish of Hackney. The next morning the stable was broke open, and the gelding was missing; we advertised him in several of the papers, and some days after we were informed, one Gabriel Holland had bought him. I went to his house, there I found the gelding, swore to him, as my father's property, and paid him the two guineas, advertised as a reward, and he delivered him to me.
Grant. He lives at Swainton, near Ashby-de-la-Zouch, in Leicestershire, one hundred and fifteen miles from London.
John Needham . I live at Swainton; I am servant to Mr. Holland. On the 16th of March the prisoner at the bar brought the grey gelding (which master delivered to Mr. Grant) to my master, he bought him of him for 4 l. 15 s.
Q. Was you there at the time?
Needham. I was not just at the time; I heard him say he bought him of a farrier for a small matter of money, and he had put him into a straw-yard a little time, tobe kept thereat 1 s. 6 d. a week.
John Waterfield . I keep the King's-head inn, at Market-Harborough; on the 11th of March the prisoner came to my house about four in the afternoon; the next day, being a very snowy day, he staid till about four in the afternoon.
Q. Was he on horseback?
Waterfield. He had a grey gelding.
Q. Have you seen that gelding since?
Waterfield. I have, at the house of Mr. Grant; he had a rowel under his belly.
Q. Who shewed you the horse at Mr. Grant's?
Waterfield. Mr. Grant the elder.
Grant. No, my lord, he is not.
Q. Did you see your father shew the horse to Waterfield?
Grant. No, I did not.
Q. Did you see him sell him?
I honestly bought the horse.
209. (L.) Eleanor Nelson , spinster , was indicted for stealing one linen mob, laced, value 4 s. the goods of Sarah Crosland ; one linen handkerchief, laced, value 2 s. one pair of stays, value 12 s. and one linen shirt , the goods of William Vivel , May 1 . ++
Q. Does your daughter live in the same house with you?
S. Crosland. She does; her name is Vivel.
Q. What goods of hers were missing?
S. Crosland. A pair of stays, a shirt, a handkerchief, (the goods mentioned produced in court, and deposed to.)
Q. Where were these goods found again?
S. Crosland. At a pawnbroker's by her direction. She owned also to the taking them before my Lord-Mayor.
I was mean in cloaths and had not necessaries, and I did it for that.
Q. Do you know the prisoner?
A. Bristow. I have seen him at my house four or five times; about four o'clock in the afternoon on the 3d of March he came in and called for a tankard of beer. I bid the boy go and draw it, which he did, and put it before him, he staid till about six o'clock. I had been up to my husband, who was then sick, and when I came down he was moved to another box, and the tankard standing before him, and in about ten minutes time a person spoke to me on the left-hand-side, I turned my face that way, in the mean time I saw the prisoner give the door a violent jirk; I said that fellow had taken away the tankard; I ran out after him into the street; I met a young man that is now in court, I said, Dick, Run after that fellow, for he has taken away my tankard, I saw him run up Harp-lane, he ran after him, but could not overtake him. Having some knowledge of his wife, I, with two friends, went and found the house where he lived, and took him about two in the morning, I took him before the justice, he owned he was in my house but denied having the tankard. I advertised it, and Mr. Dyer came and said he believed his man had bought such a tankard, and he had got it at home. I went to his house, this was on the Wednesday evening, after advertising it on Monday and Tuesday.
William Keys . I called at Thomas Bristow 's house on the 3d of March in the evening, and saw the prisoner there with his back towards the Fire; a little after that Mr. Bristow came and said he had lost a tankard, the prisoner was then gone out of the house; after that Mrs. Bristow came in out of the street, and said, that very man that was talking with you by the fire-side has ran away with my tankard. On the next morning Mrs. Bristow desired me to go to St. Martin's Round-house to see if I knew the Man again, I went, and found him to be the same. I went with him before justice Cox, and he committed him.
Charles Tilley . I came presently after the tankard was missing, Mrs. Bristow desired I would go along with her to see for the man, we found him in bed at a house in Russel-court, we took him to justice Cox, the justice asked him what made him run away with the tankard? he said. he ran away because he had not money enough to pay his reckoning; he owned he had the tankard in the house, and left it there on the table.
John Newman . I am servant to Mr. Dyer, a silversmith in Lombard-street; the prisoner brought this tankard (produced in court) on Monday the 3d of March about six in the evening, and I bought it of him.
Prosecutrix. I lost it about five minutes before six by my dial.
Q. What did you buy it for?
Newman. I gave him 5 s. 3 d. an ounce; it came to 5 l. 2 s. 3 d.
Q. When he came to you did he look to be in a flurry?
Newman. No, none at all.
Q. Don't you look upon plate when they bring it to sell?
Newman. I saw the name upon the bottom, but I did not suspect he came dishonestly by it.
Prosecutrix. This is my Tankard, here is William Winter at the Red-house, Thames-street, London, engraved on the bottom of it, and T. A. B. on the handle; we bought that and other plate of Mr. Winter when we came into the house.
Q. Is this new or old sterling.
Newman. It is old sterling.
John Eadin . I was at the Red-house on the 3d of March, and saw the prisoner there, he was by himself when the tankard was lost, but I did not see him take it; I saw he had a tankard or a pot before him; it was missed before the door was shut.
Richard Wadbrook . I was standing about two doors from the prosecutrix's house, I heard the door open and saw the prisoner run away. I had seen him in the house but a very little before; I was gone out to get me some victuals for my supper.
Q. How was he dressed?
Wadbrook. As he is now; Mrs. Bristow said, Dick, Run after him, he has got my Tankard; I ran after him but could not take him.
I was in the house but I had no money, and I went home; I saw nothing of the tankard.
Guilty , Death .
William Barnet . On Tuesday the 29th of April, about nine in the evening, I was near the pump in St. Paul's Church-yard , I felt something tug at my right-hand pocket, and the prisoner jostling me at the same time I took hold of him, and saw him deliver something to another boy, who ran away towards Cheapside. I took the prisoner to an alehouse on Ludgate-hill till the watch was set, and before the constable charged him; he owned he took my handkerchief out of my right-hand pocket, and before the alderman owned the same, and that he used to sell all he stole to one Balendine in Rag-fair.
The prisoner in his defence said he did not see or meddle with the prosecutor's handkerchief.
James Green. As I was coming down Fleet-street about two in the afternoon on the 25th of April, I felt something at my pocket, I put my hand into it and missed my handkerchief, and saw the prisoner in the King's-head passage putting such a blue and white handkerchief as mine in his breeches, he ran away, I called out, stop him, stop him, he was pursued and taken, and searched, but had got rid of the handkerchief; we took a companion of his about half an hour after; he had five handkerchiefs about him, but neither of them mine.
Samuel Shotburgh . I saw the prisoner take a linen handkerchief out of the pocket of Mr. Green, as I was standing at my own door; I saw him put his hand in his pocket twice, the second time he pulled it out, it was blue and white, he ran up the King's-head passage, and I up Chancery-lane to meet him as he came out; I was at the taking him, and searched him, he had not the handkerchief then; about half an hour after I took a companion of his whom I had seen walking with him; I found five handkerchiefs upon him, but neither of them the prosecutor's.
I was putting my shirt into my breeches, and they said it was a handkerchief; I never had it.
To his character.
The prisoner had nothing to say in her defence.
Thomas Hunt. The four ducks that the prisoner had when he was apprehended were my property; I know nothing of the taking them.
Q. Did he confess any thing?
Hunt. No, he did not; he said he bought them at Low-layton for five shillings.
Q. What sort of Ducks were they?
Hunt. Two of them were Muscovy, and two English, intirely white, except one, which had a little black on the tail.
Q. What time was it he was brought to you with them?
Hunt. I think it was on the 19th of April about nine in the evening.
Rachel Hunt . The four ducks were in the pond about seven o'clock in the evening on the 19th of April; I did not miss them till a gentleman sent word he had taken a man with some ducks, and they were brought to our house with the prisoner; the two Muscovite ducks were dead, their heads were cut off, the other two were alive.
Prisoner. They swore they were geese.
Q. Was you before the justice?
R. Hunt. I was.
Q. He appears here as disordered in his senses by his behaviour. How did he behave there?
R. Hunt. Much the same as here.
Prisoner. I did not speak a word there.
R. Hunt. He said he loved fowl dearly, and said, he hoped I would find him a good bed and a fowl.
Prisoner. That honest fellow stopped me with the ducks.
Clark. He had the four ducks; I stopped him thinking they might be mine. I asked him where he got them? he made no answer, as I remember. I took him and them to my neighbour Mr. Hunt, and he owned them.
Prisoner. It is very true what he says.
I said I was going to Walthamstow, so and so. Did I not go to a public house with you?
Prisoner. Enough said. I bought the ducks in Wood-street at Walthamstow; I have got no witnesses but myself, although I am a poor fellow I am an honest fellow, and a coachman too.
Q. Can any body give an account of this man's behaviour of late?
Mr. Akerman. About a fortnight ago I went up into the gaol in order to set some little affairs to right; I found the prisoner had been beat; the other prisoners, which we call the gate-men, told me that some of the boys, who are since transported, had been using him ill, and had got him to burn his cloaths. My turnkey can give a better account of his behaviour than I can, he sees the prisoners every day. I never saw any particular acts of lunacy by him any farther than hearing what the other prisoners would say of him.
Nathaniel Hillstrutton . I am a turnkey; I have seen the prisoner behave like one out of his senses, he had like to have set the gaol on fire twice; he has had some cloaths brought him by his friends, but he has made away with them all; he would be gathering rags together, and making fire of them in the night-time. We have been called up on his account sometimes at two or three o'clock in the morning, fearing he should set the gaol on fire.
215. (L.) Edward Puckering was indicted for stealing two looking-glasses, value 4 s. one wooden picture-frame, one brass flower-pot, six knives, five box-irons, one pair of copper scales, one pair of brass candlesticks, two worsted stuff curtains , the goods of Elisabeth Bond , widow , May 9 . ++
James Johnson . The prosecutrix keeps two shops in Moorfields, one of them is under my care, and the prisoner attended in that. A little after twelve at noon on Friday last, he came to me, asked me what it was o'clock? I said, a little after twelve. He said, then I will go to dinner. I said, stay till I go a little way; I went, and at my return, my mistress told me she had found a pair of brass candlesticks in his pocket.
Q. Did he stay till you came back?
Johnson. No, he was gone to dinner; when he came back from dinner, I heard her say to him, she suspected he had not been honest to her, and that he should not stay in her house another minute. He said, no more will I; and said he would certainly give her trouble if she took away his character. I went for a search-warrant, and when I came back, my mistress told me she had been at the prisoner's house, and seen several things: I went, and there found the things contained in the indictment, the property of Mrs. Bond. I got the search-warrant from Sir Samuel Gower , we had the goods all packed up, and brought them home. We brought the prisoner to his mistress about half an hour after ten o'clock, then he owned when he took one thing, and when the other, &c. He said he had taken away the copper scales about four months ago, some three months, and some two.
Jacob Oaks . I am the constable; I was sent for on the 9th of this instant to the prosecutrix; I went to the prisoner's house, when the prisoner went backwards, and took the goods mentioned in the indictment and tied them up in his apron. I thought there was no other way of coming out but at the door I stood at, but he went out with the goods at the back door; I pursued him, when he dropt some of the things; and finding I got ground of him, he turned up a little narrow turning, where he dropt the whole; and while I stopt to take them up, he running fast, got out of my sight. I brought them back to his house, and sent a person to acquaint his mistress. She came and looked at the goods, and said they were hers. We took him about ten o'clock that night, and brought him to his mistress, when he made an ample confession of all the things he had stolen.
As to the candlesticks, it was not my design to rob her of them; I took them to carry to a man that did business for my mistress to clean them. There came a Man to buy either a bed or a pair of grates, I know not which now, and going to shew him them, I put the candlesticks into my pocket; after he was gone my mistress sent me to change a guinea, and as I was running along, somebody said there were candlesticks hanging out of my pocket, and I should lose them. I went on, and carried them to the man at the warehouse; he said I came just right, for he had nothing but a coal-scuttle to scower. As to the looking-glasses, I had been used to mend my mistress's things in the shop, I had broke the two looking-glasses, and I took them home to mend them.
For the prisoner.
Q. How long is it ago since he lived with you?
Harlow. I believe it is better than two years ago.
Jacob Joseph . Last Sunday fornight a boy brought the prisoner to my house in Duke's-place, knowing me to be a constable; the prisoner had this silver spoon (producing one); he asked me six shillings for it. I asked him what he would have an ounce for it? He said four shillings per ounce.Frederick Cleaver , was upon it; I saw it was only M. H. upon it; then I took hold of him, and said he should go to prison. He said he would make me a present of the spoon, if would let him go. I said I would not, and took him to the Compter that night, and the next day before the alderman, and he was committed. I have advertised the spoon twice, but at present it has not been owned.
The prisoner being a foreigner, and pretending not to know English, an interpreter was sworn. His defence was as follows:
I came over from France to go to Holland, and having never seen the rarities of the king's going to Holland, I wanted to see it, so I staid for that purpose. I went and lodged in St. Martin's lane two days and nights. When I came here I had but two shillings, and I could not go beyond-sea, so I thought of going to sell the spoon; it was on a Sunday, and as I heard the Jews might trade on Sundays, I went into Duke's-place. I asked six shillings for it, or four shillings per ounce. I had not been in England above a fortnight before. The spoon I bought in France.
217. (L.) Elisabeth Pool , otherwise Easterby , widow , was indicted for stealing one pair of thread hose, value 2 s. 6 d. one silk handkerchief, value 1 s. one pound of soap, half a yard of muslin, one gallon of small-beer, half a bushel of coals, three pounds weight of bread, half a pound of butter, and three pounds of roast mutton , the goods of Higgens Peyton , May 5 . ++
Higgens Peyton. On this day fortnight I was informed my cook-maid, the prisoner at the bar, used to admit a man in at the fore-parlour window, and after staying there some time, return back the same way; and that she handed out a basket, which he used to take away. I got up the next morning, between three and four o'clock, and opening one of the shutters of the dining-room window, from whence I could see the fore-parlour window, I saw a man in a great coat getting in at it, and after staying about half an hour, returned, and received a basket from the window, but I could not see who gave it. He then unlocked my area-door, and went away with the basket. On the Monday morning I saw him come about five o'clock, and open my area-door, and get in at the window; I had two people in readiness to take him, it was the same man whom I saw on the Saturday morning. After staying in my house some time, I saw him get out again, and a basket was handed to him as before; he went out set down the basket, and locked the area-door; then took up the basket, and was carrying it away; but he had not been a minute from my house, but as soon as I got down, they brought him back; the man confessed he had been in six or seven times, and begged I would forgive him; so did the prisoner. He confessed before Mr. Fielding he had taken away the things that these baskets contained. There were two baskets which I saw opened before Mr. Fielding, there was a cag of small-beer in one basket, in the other there was about half a quartern loaf of bread, about half a pound of butter, and about two pounds and a half of roast mutton, and about half a bushel of coals; these they both confessed they took from me.
Q. Did she confess she was the person that handed out these things?
Peyton. No, she did not; but said she had committed the fact. Upon the prisoner's delivering the key of her trunk to me, I delivered it to my wife; she will give an account what she found there. After this, I carried the prisoner and the man before my Lord-Mayor, when he was pleased to commit the man to the house of correction, and the prisoner to Newgate; he has since made his escape.
Henry Bodicote . Last Monday was se'nnight, between the hours of five and six, I waited at the end of Castle-yard for the man's coming out, that was gone into the prosecutor's house, I did not see him go in or come out, but met him with two baskets, one in each hand; I told him he must go back with me to the house where he brought them from, he did; in the house he owned he had done the same six or seven mornings before.
Q. Did the prisoner confess any thing?
Bodicote. Not in my hearing.
Q. Did she say what she had done?
Wybourne. Not in my hearing.
Robert Carter . I am servant to Mr. Bodicote, he ordered me to go along with him that morning, I saw the man go in at the window, he had but one basket and came out with two; I saw a woman open the window of Mr. Peyton's house, but can't say it was the prisoner. When he came out he had two baskets.
Q. Did you see the prisoner convey anything out?
Carter. I can't say I did.
Deborah Morley . I live with Mr. Peyton; I saw the prisoner's box opened, and there was found in it a pair of Mr. Peyton's white thread-stockings, and also a silk handkerchief of my master's, likewise some pieces of soap, I can't tell who those belonged to. (The stockings and hankerchief produced in court.)
Q. to prosecutor. What is the value of the stockings and handkerchief?
Prosecutor. The stockings cost three shillings and six-pence, and the handkerchief four shillings and six-pence.
Catherine Dickerson . I live with Mr. Peyton; I saw the prisoner's boxes brought down, upon the opening them, to the best of my knowledge, there were a pair of thread stockings taken out with my master's mark on them; there was also a handkerchief taken out of another small box, and some pieces of soap.
D. Morley. That box was the prisoner's.
Mrs. Peyton. I found these pair of stockings and handkerchief in the prisoner's box the 15th of this month, they are mine; I gave her half a dozen pair of stockings last July, but these were bought since that, and marked last September, the stockings cost three shillings, the box was locked in which the stockings were in, but that which the handkerchief was in was not.
My mistress gave me half a dozen pair of stockings, and as to the box which the handkerchief was in, it had no lock upon it.
Prosecutor. My wife did inform me she had given her several pair of stockings some time ago.
218. (M.) John Price , otherwise Thomas Buckley , was indicted, for that he, with a certain pistol which he had, and held in his right-hand, upon Stephen Tricket did make an assault in a violent manner, and did then and there demand money of the said Stephen, with intent the money of the said Stephen against his will to have , May 3.*
Stephen Tricket. I live in the Strand ; on the 3d of May the prisoner came into my shop about a quarter of an hour after six in the evening, I and my son were in a little room at the farther end of the shop, he came up to the door and opened it; I said, what do you want, friend? he said, I want ten guineas; I said, who do you come from? he said, from myself.
Q. Did you see any arms he had got ?
Tricket. No, I did not then; I said, what demand have you of ten guineas upon me? he said, for fun; I said, fun, what do you mean by fun, have you no other demand? then he put his hand to his pocket and pulled out a pistol, and clapped it to my breast, then my son pulled out a purse from his pocket and said, here friend, here is ten guineas, for God's sake take your pistol away. As I got up from my seat he still held his pistol in the same position directed to my breast, I gave a spring and took hold of the arm that held the pistol, and turned it from me, and took hold of his collar, my son jumped upon him and took hold on his other arm and collar too; I found I was not strong enough to take the pistol from him, but he turned it towards me again, I turned it from me again, and then took hold of the barrel of the pistol and let go his arm, and took hold of the handle of the pistol and wrenched it out of his hand, then he strove to get away, but we secured him. When we came to examine the pistol we found it was not charged; we carried him to the justice's and he was committed.
Q. from prisoner. Was I sober or in liquor?
Tricket. When I took the pistol out of his hand I thought he had been drinking spirituous liquors, but he came to me very straight as if he was sober, but when he was taken away he did appear to have had a little liquor.
Q. By what did you judge him to be in liquor, by the smell of the liquor or by any other behaviour?
Tricket. Only by the smell of the liquor, he walked as well as I can, but before the justice he behaved as if he was in liquor.
Q. What did you think was his Intention, was it fun, as he called it, or was it real?
Tricket. When I offered him my purse, I made no doubt but that he wanted the money, because he answered every question so readily that was asked him.
I know nothing of it; I had been in company with some men, which I don't know; how I came by the pistol, I know not; I never bought any, nor had any in my life.
Timothy Ball . I keep a public-house; the prisoner came to lodge in my house in December last, from which time I have known him; I never saw any thing of his behaviour but what was upright and honest in all shapes.
Q. Did you know him before he came to lodge with you?
Ball. No, I did not; I had an extraordinary good character of him, when he came.
Q. What shop do you keep?
Langeridge. I keep a chandler's shop.
Q. How long has his time been out?
Demorine. He did not serve his time quite out, because he had no inclination to his business.
Q. What is your business?
Demorine. I am a jeweler.
Q. How long did he serve you?
Demorine. He served four years of his time; and as he said, and I found, he had no Inclination to the business, and that he would be of no service to me or himself in it, I gave him up his indentures.
Q. How did he behave while with you?
Demorine. He behaved extremely well during that time. I know no ill of him.
Q. How long ago is it since you parted with him?
Demorine. I believe it is three years and a half ago.
219. (M.) Edward Hudson , otherwise Long Ned , and Barbara his wife , were indicted for that they, together with James Green, Thomas Stanley , and Thomas Beach, otherwise Thomas Brown, not yet taken, did wickedly and maliciously intend to maim and disfigure Lawrence Bury ; that the said James Green, with a hanger which he held in his right-hand, did unlawfully and feloniously slit the nose of the said Bury; and that the prisoners, and the others named, were abetting, assisting, comforting, and encouraging him the said Green the felony aforesaid to commit and perpetrate. It was laid also for maiming the left-hand of the said Bury, by cutting three of his fingers , Jan. 21 . +
By the Desire of the prisoners the witnesses were examined apart.
Lawrence Bury . On the 21st of last January, I went with an acquaintance of mine to the Rose-and-crown alehouse in Church-lane, Whitechapel , there were four or five of us; we were about making up a little difference betwixt the landlord and another person. The prisoner came into the house; we were in a room by ourselves; one Frederick Withrington said, there is Long Ned, that all the world is afraid of; I have got a warrant against him, at the suit of one Osbourn. I said, have you it about you? He said, no, he had not. I said, do you go for it, and I will go and get a peace-officer, and we will get it executed. I went to Salt-petre-bank, and got Michael Kennedy , a constable; he came, and brought a watchman along with him. Then Kennedy told the prisoner he had a warrant against him at such a one's suit. Said he, where is my prosecutor? The officer said he was not there. Said the prisoner, then I will not go along with you. And Beach said, I have got a warrant or a writ against him, I know not which, and he shall not go along with you.
Q. What is Beach?
Bury. He is an officer, and came in along with the prisoner. Then the prisoner's wife went out, and brought him in a pistol, or pistols. Then the prisoner said, where is my prosecutor? The constable said, he is not here. The prisoner said, who gave you charge of me? The constable said, Mr. Bury did, and I have commanded him to aid and assist me. A person in the room said, take care, he has pistols about him. Then the constable thought proper to take his word till the next morning. I went to Spital-fields for the prosecutor, but did not know where he lived; so I went to the house of Mr. Wright, in Mason's-court, and desired him to come down to us; but he said he was afraid of being murdered. I returned without him; but I had not been in the house above ten minutes, before James Green and Stanley came in. The prisoner then said some words, which I think were these, there is Bury that had me taken, cut away. Then they all fell upon me at once; some had sticks, and James Green had a hanger. I then received these wounds ( shewing scars on three fingers and his thumb on his left-hand, another on the thick part of his right arm, and several on his head ); I am told there were twenty-three cuts on my head; my nose was cut on the upper
Q. How many were there upon you?
Bury. There was James Green, Thomas Stanley , the prisoner, and Thomas Beach, all confederates. My blood flew about the room, on the wall, the cieling, and the looking glass, and nobody dare assist me. I plunged in among them, in order to make my escape; I got out into the street, but how I can't tell. It was very dark, and I got on the other side of the way, where there was no lamp, with intent to secrete myself. They pursued me, and called a bull-dog of Green's which they called Bosson, and set him upon me. He seized me, and I got hold of the dog. Then they came and knocked me down six or eight times, till I believe they thought I was dead.
Q. Did the woman at the bar do any thing to you ?
Bury. I know nothing she did, only bringing the pistols. He had often threatened me before; about ten days before this thing happened, Thomas Stanley , he, and one Nettle, came into the house of Mrs. Boswell, near Well-close-square, where I was drinking a tankard of beer; Stanley charged me with false swearing at Hicks's-hall, it was in favour of a sailor, whom they were about extorting 10 l. 8 s. from.
Q. What are you?
Bury. I am a hackney-writer .
Q. from prisoner. Whether ever he has not been in the Compter for perjury?
Bury. No, I never was.
Michael Kennedy . I was headborough for Whitechapel parish at the time; Bury came to me on the 21st of January about eight or nine o'clock at night, and brought a warrant for me to serve on Mr. Hudson, I was loath to go knowing him to be a resolute man. I went with him to the Rose-and-crown, Church-lane, and told the prisoner there I had got a warrant for him, he said, will not you take our words for me? I said, no, but if Mr. Stevens the landlord of the house, will pass his word for your forth-coming any hour to-morrow, I will take his word, but the landlord would not; then one Beach that was there said he had got a warrant against him; I said my warrant is better than yours. Mr. Hudson put his hand by his side and said, I had made a mistake, his wife coming in, after which he said, Blast my eyes if I'll go with any of you; he went out, I followed him, he said, what do you follow me for? if you do I'll blow your brains out, don't come a foot further. Bury came in and called for a pint of twopeny, then in came Green, Stanley, Hudson, and Beach; Hudson said, this is he, and they cut away as fast as they could upon him; how Bury got out I could not tell, but upon tracing the blood I found him in the street, I got a watchman to carry him to the hospital.
Q. What time did you carry him there?
Kennedy. About one or two o'clock in the morning.
Q. Did you hear any conversation between Hudson and Green that night?
Kennedy. No, I did not.
Q. What instrument did they make use of?
Kennedy. Green had a hanger, Hudson and the left had sticks; Hudson struck Bury first with his stick, and Green cut him with a hanger.
Q. What are you?
Porth. I am a peaceable man.
Q. What is your business?
Porth. I am a housekeeper.
Q. What is your trade?
Porth. I am a Feltmonger; there were seven or eight of us trying to make up this affair, Hudson came in, Bury said, that Hudson is always jawing me and using me ill, do you go out and fetch the warrant and I'll fetch a constable; he went out and brought in Kennedy; Kennedy told Hudson he had got a warrant against him at the suit of Osbourn; he said, who charged you? he told him Bury did; he said, what business has Bury with me? I'll not go with you; Beach said, he is my prisoner already, and he shall not go with you; Kennedy said to Beach, let me see your authority, but he would not shew it, nor would let him go; then the prisoner said, you ragged arsed dog, I'll go along with none of you; then Kennedy said, Ned, don't be in a passion, I'll take your word till morning; then in came Jemmy Green with a hanger drawn, and walked out again, and in about ten minutes after they all four came in, Stanley said, there is the ragged arsed dog that has cost me so and so; then Long Ned said, I'll cure him; they fell on him, he got out at the door, I don't know how; after that I heard them whistle to a dog, the dog found Bury out, I believe. When they came in, Long Ned said, they are not here.
Q. Who did he mean by they are not here ?
Prisoner. That witness now stands indicted for robbery; he keeps a common bawdy-house.
Kennedy. The prisoner and his confederates were a sham press-gang, and extorted money from people.
Both acquitted .
He was detained to be tried next sessions at Hicks's-Hall for a misdemeanor.
220. (M.) Margaret Davis , widow , was indicted for stealing one silver watch, value 50 s. one pair of silver shoe-buckles, value 10 s. one pair of chrystal sleeve-buttons, one shirt, one pair of worsted stockings, one pair of silver shoe-buckles, one linen stock, and seventeen shillings in money, numbered, privately from the person of James Hudson , his property, in the dwelling-house of Patrick Carne , April 25 . +
James Hudson . I am servant to Jer. Bentham, esq; on the 25th of April coming from Aldgate in Leadenhall-street, I happened to meet with the prisoner at the bar, she carried me to a house in Well-street by Well close-square.
Q. Was it a public or private house?
Hudson. A private house; the person that keeps it is named Patrick Carne ; we went to bed there, and she got up in the morning, and when I awaked I found only my coat, waistcoat, breeches, and shoes. I don't know who took them.
Q. What time did you awake?
Hudson. About four in the morning.
Q. Was the prisoner in the room then?
Hudson. No, she was gone. I went home and was glad to sit down with the loss, but my things were advertised to be seen at Highgate, and my master obliged me to prosecute. I went to the Brown-bear at Highgate, and found my watch, buckles, and buttons.
Q. How long was this after you lost them?
Hudson. It might be three or four days.
Thomas Beal . I am a constable; on the 26th of April in the morning, between eight and nine o'clock, a beggar-fellow came along with the prisoner to my house; he told me the prisoner had shewed him and another beggar-man a watch, and said, she had got a prize; he desired I would take charge of her, thinking she had stole it, I did, and she owned the fact directly, (the watch, buckles, and buttons produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutor) he swore to the marks of the watch, before he saw it, before justice Cross. I took the prisoner to Clerkenwell-bridewell; after which justice Cross sent me to her to see for the shirt and stockings, and I found she had them on; I had them taken off (producing a shirt and a pair of black stockings, deposed to by the prosecutor).
I used to work with my needle; I had been over the water into the Borough to see a friend of mine, coming home I met my prosecutor, he asked me where I was going? I said I was going home; he said, let me go home with you, I said, I never took any body home with me, but he much desired it, so I let him. We went into my room, he took his buckles out of his shoes and gave them to me, and he pulled off his shirt for fear of vermin, and laid that and his cloaths upon a chest, and unfortunately I got up and went away with them, and I shewed the watch to two beggar-men going up Highgate-hill, they told me if I would give it to them they would let me go, and I was not willing, so they took me to the constable.
Guilty of stealing, but not in the dwelling-house .
221. (M.) Mary Gaddard , widow , was indicted for stealing one fustian coat, value 10 s. one fustian waistcoat, value 5 s. one pair of fustian breeches, one linen shirt, one linen stock, one pair of cotton stockings, the goods of Daniel Doland , one fustian frock, one fustian waistcoat , the goods of Timothy White , April 28 . ++
Daniel Doland . I lodge in Market lane, St. James's , the prisoner used to go in and out to clean the room, when we went out we used to hang the key where only Timothy White, that lodged in the same room, myself, the prisoner, and another woman knew of, they both lodged in the same house. We missed the things mentioned in the indictment, on the 28th or 29th of April, a coat and waistcoat of Timothy White 's, and a coat, waistcoat, breeches, shirt, and stock of mine. I took the prisoner up on suspicion, and brought her to justice St. Lawrance; she owned to the taking of the things mentioned, and cleared the woman that lodged with her; she told us where she had pawned them, we went, and the pawnbroker delivered up the cloaths to the constable.
Thomas Powell . I am servant to the pawnbroker; the prisoner brought these cloaths to me on the 29th of April in the morning about ten o'clock (producing them, and deposed to by the respective owners).
Q. What did you lend her upon them?
Powell. I lent her thirty-shillings upon them.
These two young men came home fuddled, the next morning they came and asked me if I would go and pawn these things for them, which I did. I lived in the same house where they did. I pawned them to this Powell for twenty-five shillings, I brought the money to them and gave it to Doland.
Q. to Doland. Did you send the prisoner to pawn these things?
Doland. Upon my oath I never did send her to pawn any thing in my life.
Q. Did she deliver the money she pawned them for to you?
Doland. No, she did not.
Q. to White. Did you send her to pawn these, or any other goods?
White. No, I never did.
Charles Hodges. I was not at home when the cheese was taken away; when I returned home there were some people who shewed me the cheese, and said it had been stolen, and the man was taken and sent to the Round-house. I can only swear the cheese to be my property.
Q. When was this?
Hodges. It was on the 15th of April.
Q. Was you before the justice with the prisoner?
Hodges. I was; he said as he was going along a man dropped the cheese, and the people laid hold of him.
Q. When was this?
Freeman. I do not know the Day of the month; there were two more men along with him; they went away together; I went after them, and the prisoner dropt the cheese.
Q. Did you see him drop it?
Freeman. No, I did not.
Q. What time of the Day was it?
Freeman. It was about half an hour after eight at night.
Q. Were there any lights near?
Freeman. The candles and lamps were lighted, and the prisoner came by me; I live about three doors from the prosecutor's house, on the same side the way.
I had been to St. Giles's, and coming home there was a mob of people, and they laid hold of me; I knew nothing at all of the matter from that time to this.
Robert Berry. I went out on a Sunday morning, a month next Sunday; I left my watch hanging up on a nail in the Kitchen in the house of Thomas Jones ; I went out, and returned in about half an hour, and it was gone. I heard the prisoner had taken it; I went to her house, and she confessed to me she did take it, and so she did also before justice Fielding.
Q. Did she say how she took it?
Berry. She told me she came into the kitchen to light a candle, and she took it from off a nail.
Q. Does she belong to the house?
Berry. She does not.
Q. Did you ever meet with the watch again?
Thomas Jones . I saw the watch hanging there when we went out in the morning, and it was missing when I came home. We took up a man that lodged in the house upon suspicion; but the next day she owned she had taken it, then we discharged him.
Q. Did you hear the prisoner own she took it?
I was going to a chandler's-shop for some sand, and there came a man and asked me to carry a watch to pawn. I went to carry it; going along, Tom Perry snatched it out of my hand. When I knew this man lost the watch, I went and let him know of it, and had Perry taken up. He was carried before the justice; he is a gambler, and there came about twenty Iriishmen to swear for him, and he was cleared.
Q. to Berry. Did she come to you and tell you Perry had the Watch?
Berry. No, she did not; another woman came and told me the prisoner had taken it, and I went to her, and asked her if she took it, and she said yes, I did; I took it to the constable's house, and Tom Perry took it from me.
Guilty 39 s.
224. (M.) Grace Hatt , widow , was indicted for stealing one silver spoon, value 9 s. the property of Margaret Collings , widow ; and one silver tea-spoon, value 9 d. the property of Samuel Skinner , Esq ; April 26 . +
Margaret Collings . I live at Bromley by Bow ; one of my neighbours came and asked me if I had taken in a spoon to pawn? I said I never heard any thing of it. I went to look for mine, and found it was gone. Then he asked what sort of a spoon mine was? I told the letters that were upon it; then he shewed me the spoon, which was my property.
Q. When was this?
M. Collings. I don't know the day, it was about a fortnight ago.
Q. Why do you charge the prisoner?
M. Collings. I know there was no body in my house that afternoon but the prisoner.
Q. Where does Mr. Skinner live?
C. Evans. He lives at Bromley.
Q. Have you ever seen it again?
C. Evans. I have, in the hands of Mr. Wood.
Q. Why do you charge the prisoner?
C. Evans. I know nothing of her taking it; she weeded three days in our garden, and after she was taken up, she owned she took it.
Q. What are you?
Wood. I am a watchmaker, and live at Stratford.
C. to M. Collings. Look at this spoon.
Wood. The prisoner told me it was her own property; I told her she did not look like the person that owned it; then she fell a crying, and said it was a family spoon, and she did not want her friends to know she was going to sell it. My wife came in, and said that was the woman that sold the small tea-spoon the Wednesday before. I shewed it her, and asked her if she sold it my servant? She said she did. I asked her what mark was upon it? She said the letter C; but it proves to be an S. (producing it).
Q. to C. Evans. Do you know this Spoon?
C. Evans. It is my master's property.
Wood. I asked her the marks on the great spoon?
Then she drew this pewter plate from under her arm (producing one) and said the same as is upon this; but it proves to be the reverse. I asked her how she came by the plate? She said she had carried her husband some victuals in it, that works at the brewhouse at Bow. She said she lodged at Mrs. Collings's, and she had pawned this table-spoon there, and fetched it out again in order to sell it. I seeing the letter S. upon the little spoon, carried it to Mr. Skinner's, where it was owned. Then I went to Mrs. Collings, and asked her if Grace Hatt had pawned a spoon to her? She said no. Then I asked her if she had lost a spoon? She looked about, and said she had, and told me the marks, the same as those on the spoon.
John Barber . I am apprentice to Mr. Wood. I bought the tea-spoon of the prisoner on Wednesday the 23d of April for 9d. and she came on the Saturday after with the other; my master called me to see her, and I knew her again.
As I was weeding Mr. Skinner's garden, I found the tea-spoon upon a dunghill; and as I was coming from the Seven-stars, I met a man;
225. (M.) Bridget Jourdan , spinster , was indicted for stealing one camblet gown, value 2 s. one cloth cloak, value 1 s. one cloth waistcoat, value 1 s. one linen handkerchief, value 2 d. the goods of Mary Tompson , widow , April 21 . +
Q. to Tompson. Where does your mother live?
Tompson. She lives in Durham-yard.
Q. Did you see the bundle opened?
Tompson. I did. (The goods produced in court.)
They were such things as these; I suppose these to be same.
Q. Where have the things been seen?
Tompson. After the prisoner was taken before the justice, I took the things, and locked them up in a chest of my mother's, where they continued till I took them to bring them here.
Q. Did you see the bundle opened when they were delivered to your mother by Collings.
Tompson. No, I did not then.
I was coming along crying rags, when I met an old-cloaths woman; she said she had bought some things, and told me if I would be half, I might. I said I had no money to give for my part. I went with her to the house where she said she had bought them; I staid at the door, and she went in and brought them out, and gave them to me, and bid me go up the court, and she would follow me in a minute or two, and the gentleman came and laid hold of me.
For the prisoner.
Terence Magennis . I have known the prisoner about six years; she is an honest, hard-labouring creature; she goes in the streets, and buys old cloaths, so as she can get an estate for money to maintain her mother; I never knew her in any scrape or quarrel or bad company before this.
William Coate . I have known the prisoner since she was a child; I never knew any thing ill of her character in my life, no farther than she endeavoured to get a bit of bread for her mother in an honest way.
Guilty 10 d.
Matthew Neesham . Mr. Pearsey has a house in the Coal-yard, by Drury-lane , it is an empty store-house, there was taken from the top of it part of a leaden gutter, which weighed about three quarters of a hundred; Mr. Pearsey sent for me, some lead being advertised, to go and see it, at Alexander Carnedy 's house, I went, and we brought it to the warehouse, and it fitted exactly.
Alexander Carnedy . I am a constable; one of my watchmen stopped the prisoner at the bar with some lead, and brought him to me to the watch-house between eleven and twelve o'clock on the 15th of April at night; I asked the prisoner how he came by it? he said he bought it in St. Giles's of two labouring men that night. I carried him the next day to justice Fielding, the justice asked him how he could be guilty of such a thing? he answered, it was the first time he ever had been guilty, but said he did not steal it, but there was another man with him that did.
George Roberts . I am a watchman; on the 15th of April at night I saw a man go along Drury-lane, with a bundle on his back, I went and stopped him, and asked him what he had got? he said, lead, which he had bought for half a crown of two labouring men in St. Giles's. I took him down to the constable of the night. (The lead produced in court).
Peter Grant . I am a watchman; about half an hour after eleven at night, on the 15th of April, Roberts and I were standing together at the corner near Brounlow-street, Drury-lane, there came the prisoner with this lead on his shoulder, we stopped him, he flung the lead down, we took him and carried him to the watch-house.
When I had done work I went to a house where I commonly do to drink a pint of beer,
227. (M.) Richard Dennison was indicted for stealing one feather-bed, value 5 s. one feather-bolster, value 6 d. one pair of linen sheets, value 1 s. one blanket, value 1 s. one quilt, value 1 s. one pair of bellows, value 9 d. and one tin kettle, value 3 d. the goods of James Nickson , the same being in a certain lodging-room lett by contract , &c. Mar. 14 . +
James Nickson . I lived at the White-hart in White-hart-court, near Newtoner's-lane ; I lett the prisoner a ready-furnished lodging with the goods mentioned in the indictment. The prisoner locked the door, and took the key with him on the 14th of March, and I heard he was somewhere about Westminster. I looked through the key-hole of the door, last Sunday I found the bedstead was stripped; I took him at the Great Almonary in Westminster on the same day; I brought him home, we went into the room and missed all the goods mentioned in the indictment, and charged the constable with him, who took him before the justice, and he was committed.
Q. Did you sell it?
Masters. I did.
Q. To who?
Masters. To a broker, named Abraham, a Jew, he lives facing me.
Q. Where do you live?
Masters. I live in Cow-cross; about two or three days after he had brought the bed he brought a bolster and sheet to pawn, and on the 11th of March a tin kettle and a pair of bellows, I lent him a shilling on them.
Q. Where are these other things?
Masters. They are all sold, he gave me orders to sell them in a month's time if he did not fetch them; they were all in one bill.
Prosecutor. The bellows had a brand mark on them.
Q. to Masters. Had the bellows the prisoner brought a brand mark on them?
Masters. I can't swear to any brand mark on them; they were a pair of ordinary bellows.
Q. Was any thing remarkable on the tin kettle ?
Masters. No, there was not.
Q. Had you ever a blanket or quilt of the prisoner ?
Masters. I had not.
Isaac Williams . On Sunday last when the prisoner came home with Mr. Nickson, he took the key out of his pocket, and went into the room, and we with him; he acknowledged talking the goods out of the room, but would not acknowledge what he had done with them.
Thomas Dann . I am the constable; Mr. Nickson came to me last Sunday, and told me he had got a thief at his house; I went along with him, there I found the prisoner, he took the key and opened the room-door, we went in, there was nothing in the room but the bedstead and an old chair; the prisoner owned he had taken away all the goods, but would not say what he had done with them, he was committed. I privately went to him, and told him if he would let me know where they were pawned I would keep it a secret; then he told me he had pawned them to Masters; I went to Masters, he owned he had the bed and some other things, and that the prisoner had given him a bill of sale to sell them in a month or two, in case he did not pay the money.
I lost my left leg at the battle of Culloden, and am an out-pensioner of Chelsea-hospital; I had no pension to take on account of this new Act of Parliament about the usurers being broke this year, so I made use of the goods; I did think to have got them again, that he should not have been the worse for it.
For the prisoner.
228. (M.) Thomas Cooper was indicted for stealing three blankets, value 20 s. one quilt, value 2 s. two pair of linen sheets, value 20 s. the goods of Hugh Carroine , in a certain lodging-room lett by contract , &c. March 19 . ++
Q. When did you lett the room to him?
Carroine. About six months ago, to the best of my remembrance, but he knows better than I when these things were missing. I advertised them in the paper and the prisoner.
Q. When did you miss them?
Carroine. On the 19th of March; my wife and I looked in at the key-hole of the room, and we saw the room was stripped; I went for the smith and he forced opened the door, and we missed the goods mentioned.
Q. Where did you meet with the prisoner?
Carroine. He was taken up at High gate, there he owned the d - I assisted him to do the like, and that he took the things, and we found upon him a sheet made into shirts and shifts, and an apron, and the like, and his wife had on the quilt made into a petticoat; he had on a coat made out of a blanket, and another upon his son.
Prisoner. Make him speak out, I can't hear him.
Q. Who took him at Highgate?
Carroine. One Randolph did, for a little guinea reward, and I paid it before the prisoner's face.
Prisoner. First and foremost, all that I have to say is this; all those things I have taken, it is true: but please to ask him if they were not mine before I took them?
Carroine. No, they were not his property, they were mine.
Q. from prisoner. Did I not change a silk gown of my wife's for three old bits of blankets? Have not you the silk gown now at your house.
Carroine. There is no such thing. His wife brought a silk gown, and desired my wife to lend her half a crown upon it.
Q. Where is that gown now?
Carroine. It is now at my house; I keep it for him; his wife ran up fifteen or sixteen shillings upon it.
Abraham Randolph . I sell a few books about the streets, and was going to Hampstead and Highgate, in order to sell a few; at the farther end of Highgate I happened to meet the prisoner's wife and children, and knowing they were advertised, I asked her how her husband did? She said, very well. I got it out of her where to find him; she said that he lodged in a barn on the side of Finchly-common. I went to the officer of Highgate, at the Brown-bear, and told him such a man was advertised, and desired him to go with me to take him; but he would not. Then I went to St. Giles's, to the prosecutor, and told him; afterwards returned and took the prisoner as he was going towards the barn; bringing him along I met the prosecutor. The prisoner said, when I told him what I took him for, that if I would go to the barn, there was one sheet tied up in a bag, and we might have it. We brought him to Highgate, and from thence to London.
Q. from prisoner. Did I not say they were my own things?
This is nothing but spite and malice, to banish me from my family, or take my life. The prosecutor wanted me to go into divers parts of the kingdom, to shew how the roads lay to the French; I was to lead about a blind man, but to enter into the French service at the same time; and he wanted me to go to the priest about it, but I would not, and from that is the spite. This evidence of his is a ballad-finger.
Q. to Randolph. What are you?
Randolph. I sell books about.
Q. Don't you sing ballads?
Randolph. I do sometimes, and I also sell pamphlets and godly books.
Q. to prosecutor. Have you had much intimacy with the prisoner?
Prosecutor. No never.
Q. How long did he lodge at your house?
Prosecutor. Three years.
Q. Did you ever make any proposals to him to go about the roads, as he says?
Prosecutor. No, never.
Q. What is your business?
Prosecutor. I live at St. Giles's, and sell coals.
Q. Are you concerned in the army?
Prosecutor. I am not.
Q. How long have you been in England!
Q. Had the prisoner been used to pay for his lodging?
Prosecutor. He paid me when he had it; but there is fourteen or fifteen shillings owing now.
Q. What was his employment?
Prosecutor. He and his children used to go with godly books of questions and answers about the streets.
Q. Have you ever had any quarrel with him?
Q. Are the goods you lost worth what they are rated at in the indictment?
Prosecutor. They are not put down at a quarter of the value they cost me.
William Gibbs. I keep a public-house ; on the 26th of April the prisoner came to my house (he used to use my house sometimes); he asked what I had got for dinner? I told him a piece of salt beef, and apple-pye. He said he would dine with me, which he did, and staid till between six and seven at night. Then he went out to see for his wife; he came back again, and said she was a coming. He went into the kitchen, and called for six-penny-worth of rum and water; it was brought him in a silver pint mug, and I sat down by him; he put his stick up, and went to put the candle out, and said we did not need a candle, then I took the candle and put it out, and hung it up, and we had no other light than from a small fire. He drank to me, and I to him, till there was about three spoonfuls left. Then Mr. Morton came in, and asked for the prisoner. I went to speak to him, and in the mean time the prisoner went away. I did not see him go. I got up the next morning, but could not find the mug. I went immediately and took up the prisoner, and he confessed he had pawned the mug for three pounds, and said if I would lend him three guineas, he would give me a note for five guineas, to be paid in five or six months time, and I should have my mug again that night. He cried very much, but I would not lend it him. I took him before justice Welch and justice Fielding, and he was committed to New-prison. I went to him there, and desired him to let me have my mug again; he said, as before, if I would lend him three guineas, &c. which I did not then agree to.
Q. Did he say where he had pawned it?
Gibbs. No he did not.
Q. Have you seen it since?
Gibbs. No, I have not.
Q. When you went out to speak to Mr. Moreton, did you leave any body in that room with him?
Gibbs. No, I left him alone, and he had the mug with him then.
Q. from prisoner. Whether or no I had not three-penny-worth of rum in the afternoon?
Gibbs. I don't know that, any farther than hearing my maid say he had.
Q. from prisoner. During the time of the drinking the six-penny-worth of rum, whether or not his wife was not in that room, pouring out brandy or rum from a gallon pot, and her grandson by her?
Gibbs. There was no soul by but himself and me.
Q. from prisoner. Was my prosecutor right sober that night?
Gibbs. I was as sober as I am now.
Q. from prisoner. What time on the Sunday morning did you miss the mug?
Gibbs. About seven o'clock, when I arose first in the morning, and there had been no soul in that room after he was gone.
Q. from prisoner. What time did you go to bed on the Saturday-night?
Gibbs. I went to bed about ten o'clock.
Q. from prisoner. When you went down on Sunday-morning, did you find the kitchen-door locked?
Gibbs. It was, and the key hanging up, as usual, over the door.
Q. from prisoner. Whether I did not altogether deny that I owned any thing about it before the justice?
Gibbs. Before the justice he denied all; but he owned to me, in Jockey Smith's skittle-ground, that he had really pawned it for 3 l.
Q. from prisoner. Did not you send me word if I would pay you a golden guinea, and two shillings per week, you would not prosecute me.
Gibbs. No, I never did.
Q. Who was by at the time?
M. Siborn. There was no body by but me and the prisoner.
Q. In what room was it?
M. Siborn. In the kitchen; I went out into the tap-room, and when I came back again he had got the cupboard-door open; I asked him what he was looking at? he said he was looking at the lock of the cupboard-door.
Q. What was in the cupboard?
M. Siborn. There was a silver tankard and silver spoons.
Q. What time of the day was this?
M. Siborn. It was before Mr. Morton came in.
Q. What time was it when Mr. Morton came in?
M. Siborn. I believe it was betwixt six and seven o'clock.
Q. from prisoner. Whether or not there was any thing missing afterwards out of the cupboard?
M. Siborn. No, there was not.
Q. from prisoner. Do you remember any thing about putting out the candle, whether it was not about three or four o'clock in the afternoon?
M. Siborn. I did not see it put out.
Prosecutor. The candle was put out about nine o'clock.
I was at the prosecutor's house about one in the afternoon, he said to me, what is the matter, Wilson? I have not seen you a great while; I said, I had been much afflicted with the gout; he said, his wife wanted to talk with me about an affair; I said, where is she? he said, she was not at home, but would be soon; I said I would call in about an hour or two; then I asked him what he had for dinner? he said, a piece of beef. I staid to dine, and had some beer, and rum and water in the kitchen, and went away and came back again, and said, I would have six-penyworth of rum and water. What he has affirmed about his wife is false; she was in the kitchen filling some bottles of rum; when I went away, I said to her, I wish you a good night, and I shook him by the hand at going out, and he desired me to be there on the Wednesday, I said, I would, and on the Monday morning as I was in an alehouse, he came to me and said he had lost the mug; I went with him, without making any opposition, before justice Welsh, and was sent from thence to New-prison. I find they are very positive as to the mug being in my custody, and nobody being in the room besides, therefore I humbly hope if your lordship should be of opinion that I am guilty, though I am no ways so, that your lordship would be pleased to recommend to the jury to find some particular value, for as it is laid, it is capital, and must affect my life, therefore I hope you will recommend it so as to save my life, though perhaps it may go hard with me, under the dilemma of the gout, with which I am now afflicted, and the noisome stinking gaol which is very bad to me, there is no absolute proof, only circumstances. I did write to a gentleman in Chancery-lane, whose business is so circumstanced, that he cannot attend to give me a character, but I see here are two gentlemen that know me; they are Mr. George and Mr. Newman, who I hope will give me a character.
To his character.
John George . I belive I may have known the prisoner four or five years; I can say nothing as to his character; he never did me any harm, nor did I hear he ever did any body else any till this thing happened. I am very little acquainted with him; he is a writer, and I have now and then wrote in an office or a shop with him; I never had any dealings with him in my life.
Mr. Newman. I have known him about the same time as Mr. George mentions; he has wrote some things for me. I know nothing at all of his character; I never knew any thing bad of him before.
Guilty 39 s.
230. (M.) Thomas Rode was indicted for stealing seven linen shirts, value 40 s. seven muslin neckcloths, value 10 s. two pair of worsted stockings, two pair of cotton stockings, one pair of thread stockings, two callico night-caps, the goods of John Collings , in the dwelling-house of Sir Jacob Downing , Bart. April 7. *
John Collings. I had tied this linen up that is mentioned in the indictment, and more, into a bundle, in order to go to be washed on the 7th of April last; these are what we found again, (produced in court) we missed them between the hours of five and six in the afternoon. We had a suspicion of the prisoner at the bar, and took him up on Monday the 14th of April; he at first absolutely denied taking them. On the Thursday after he was re-examined, between which
James Stiles . I am servant to Mr. Harrison; the prisoner at the bar pledged two shirts with me; I delivered them again to Mr. Collings; I can't say I know them again, they have been out of my hands since. (The prosecutor looked them out of the parcel and deposed to them).
Thomas Slayter . I am servant to Mr. Crofton; I lent fifteen shillings to the prisoner at the bar upon two shirts, and two pair of stockings on the 8th of April, and have delivered them since to Mr. Collings.
Prosecutor. These are the same I received of this witness, (holding them in his hand).
Prosecutor. These I received from Mr. Wilson, ( holding them in his hand ).
Samuel Slayter . I am servant to Mr. Price; the prisoner brought one shirt and three pair of stockings to me about the beginning of April; I asked him whose they were? he said they were a gentleman's servant's in Fleet-street; I said he must fetch that person; he snatched one pair of stockings up and went away; the next day he came to know if I would let him have them again; my master sent me for a constable, the which he got a knowledge of and ran away.
Catharine Tunnis . The prisoner lodged in my room; the prosecutor came and inquired for him, he was not at home; the prosecutor asked me leave to go up into his room? I said he might; he went up and found this night-cap there, (here produced) but I don't know who brought it there.
Prosecutor. This is my property.
I will not give the court any more trouble; I am guilty of taking the things away to be sure, but I did not design to steal them.
Guilty of stealing, but not in the dwelling house .
231. (M.) Christopher Gray , otherwise Bray , was indicted for stealing four pounds weight of indigo, value 30 s. the property of George Ribingrode ; it was laid over again to be the property of William Sittwell , merchant , April 28 . +
Q. Which side of the river Thames ?
Rayment. She lay on the Middlesex side.
Q. Who is the owner of the ship?
Rayment. Mr. William Sittwell is, and Mr. Geo Ribingrade is the owner of the indico; we lost a large quantity of indico about the 28th of April; I went down into the hold, and there I saw the prisoner at the bar move forwards, I thought I saw him take something up in his hand, but could not tell what it was; after that I called up upon deck to the carpenter to bring me down a light, they called and told me he could not come, then I bid them send the captain down; after that I saw the prisoner sidle sideways towards the head of the ship; I said to him, my friend, what have you got there? I came close up to him, and he tumbled down on his back with his hands behind him, and just under him, where he had laid, I took up this indico ( producing about four pounds weight).
Q. Did you find any of the casks broke?
Rayment. I found a hole in the staves of a cask supposed to be drove in by an iron crow.
Q. Was the indico loose when you found it?
Rayment. No, it was tied up as it is now in a piece of an old apron. I asked him how he came by it? but he did not own he had had it; our people were impressed for his Majesty's service, so that I had none on board, only what are called Lumpers, he was one of them employed to empty the ship.
Q. Had he been on board long?
Rayment. He came every day to work on board.
Q. What time of the day was this?
Q. How was he employed?
Rayment. He was in the hold with the rest, breaking loose the casks, that is, to roll them into the hatchway, in order to take them up out of the hold.
Q. Was any other person near the cask that was broke at that time?
Rayment. There were several more of them in the hold; but none so near it as he; the merchant that the indico was consign'd to missed sixty pounds weight.
Q. What is the value of sixty pounds weight?
Rayment. It is worth twenty-five pounds.
Q. Do you know who broke the hole in the cask ?
Rayment. I do not.
Q. Were not there some more of the casks broke by the ship's rolling?
Rayment. Not that I saw.
Q. How many casks of indico were there?
Rayment. There were upwards of twenty casks.
Q. When you go before the wind, the ship turning to one side and t'other, might not this cask be staved by the sailing of the ship?
Rayment. Yes, it might.
Q. Is it not possible this indico might be loose in the hold?
Rayment. Yes, but then that would have gone down to the lower tear.
Q. Can you say you saw that parcel in the prisoner's hand?
Rayment. No, I cannot.
Q. How much may the casks contain?
Rayment. Some of them contain two hundred weight; there are all sizes.
Q. Was the place where you first observed him near the cask that was broken?
Rayment. No, I imagine he had taken it before, and put it in the place where I saw him sidle from.
I was but just gone down into the ship's hold before the mate, it was dark; I went forward to bring the casks to the hatchway; there was some logwood and staves in my way, and I tumbled down. He took up this indico, and asked what it was? I said, nothing that I know of. I did not know what it was any more than the man born.
Q. to Rayment. How long had he been in the hold that day?
Rayment. He had been there about half an hour or better before I went down.
Q. How much is the value of this indico?
Rayment. Here is about four pounds, it is worth about 9 s. per pound.
To his character.
Q. What is his general character?
Lacy. He is an honest industrious man; he has lain several times at my house, where he might have wronged me of things of more value than this indico, such as silver tankards, &c.
Q. Would you now trust him in your house as usual?
Lacy. I would now at this time, was he at large.
Q. Where do you live?
Lacy. I live in Cable-street, near Well-close-square.
232. (M.) Anne Goadby , widow , was indicted for stealing one silk gown, value 6 s. one linen shift, value 2 s. two linen aprons, value 2 s. one lawn apron, and one flanel cloak , the goods of George Colebourne , April 14 . +
Isabella Colebourne. My husband's name is George, the goods mentioned in the indictment I lost, but can't say when. I know I had the gown and shift on the 13th of April, but I did not miss them till I missed them all on the 1st of May.
Q. Have you found any of them again?
I. Colebourne. I found the gown, shift, and one apron at Mrs. Enderson's; but never found the rest of the things.
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In the Twenty-eighth Year of His MAJESTY'S Reign. NUMBER V. PART II. for the YEAR 1755. Being the Fifth SESSIONS in the MAYORALTY of THE RIGHT HONOURABLE STEPHEN THEODORE JANSSEN , Esq; LORD-MAYOR of the CITY of LONDON. LONDON:
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Q. WHAT is your reason for charging the prisoner at the bar?
I. Colebourne. The prisoner was servant to me in the house; when I missed them she went away, and when I went to her where she lived, she ran away. I went home, suspecting something ill by that, and missed the things. Then I went after her, and she ran away again. She was then taken before Sir Samuel Gore , where she owned she had taken the things, and after that she wanted to deny it.
Q. In what manner did she say she took them?
I. Colebourne. Sir Samuel asked her if she did take the things? She said she did take them to be sure; then he said, that was justif ication enough.
Q. What did he mean by that expression?
I. Colebourne. He meant it was justification enough for him to commit her. After that, she said she might take them when they were given to her.
Q. Did she say who gave them to her?
I. Colebourne. She said I gave them to her.
Q. Did she make use of the word I took them, or I stole them?
I. Colebourne. She did not say she stole them.
Q. Upon your oath, did you, or did you not, give her them?
I. Colebourne. Upon my oath I did not.
Q. Not to pawn?
I. Colebourne. No, not to pawn; I had no occasion for that.
Q. Where does Mrs. Enderson live?
I. Colebourne. She lives in Nightingale-lane.
Q. Did the prisoner go away privately?
I. Colebourne. I gave her no leave to go; she went without my knowledge; I thought she was coming to work, as usual.
Jane Enderson . The prisoner brought a gown the 21st of April to me to pawn. I said this gown looks as if it did not belong to you, and asked her whose it was? She said it belonged to her mistress where she worked. I asked her her mistress's name? She told me she made mantuas, and lived in Church-yard-alley, near the Whitehart. I said, I hope what you have said is true. She said, if I pleased to send a servant, I might know it was true. I asked her what she wanted upon it? She said eight shillings. I said I would not lend above six. She said she would go and ask whether she might take it. She went away, and came again, and said she was to take it; so I let her have it, and she went away.
Q. to prosecutrix. Where do you live?
Prosecutrix. I live in Church-yard-alley.
Q. How near the White-hart?
Prosecutrix. I live facing it.
Q. to Enderson. Was the prisoner gone long enough from your shop (when she said she would go and ask whether she might take the six shillings) to go so far as the prosecutrix's house?
J. Enderson. No, she was not gone long enough; I then supposed she spoke to somebody in the street.
Q. Did you see her speak to any body?
J. Enderson. No, I did not. She came on the Friday following with a shift, and said to me, you seemed to be afraid when I came with the gown, that I did not come honestly by it, this belongs to the same person. She said her mistress used the Lane, she asked two shillings on it, saying, she wanted some money to buy things.
Q. What did she mean by the Lane?
Q. from prisoner. When did Isabella Colebourne come to ask for the things?
J. Enderson. She came on the Thursday following, and told me I had a gown of hers, and described it, and also told me it was left in a napkin; I readily went and took it down and shewed it her; she told me also I had a shift of hers, and I must know it was hers, for it was wrapped up in an old rag, plaited down the shoulders, and that I had an apron pieced across the bottom; I told her I had them. She asked the name of the person that brought them? I said, Anne Richards ; then she told me they were stole; I said, she told me she brought them from a mantuamaker by the White-hart in Churchyard-alley, and said she lived there. She told me the person that brought them had took three gold rings and other things; just as I was taking the gown down she pointed up to it, and said, that was hers.
Q. Could she see any part of it then?
J. Enderson. No, I believe she could not. She said, the shirt is pawned for five shillings, the shift for one shilling and six-pence, the apron for six-pence. I said, it is very odd these things should be stolen, and you come for them in this particular manner. I said the gown was pawned for six shillings, the shift two shillings, and the apron nine-pence.
Q. Did she say the person had told her they were pawned for that money?
J. Enderson. She said, no; she had it from one Rachel that the other had sold it to; then I shewed her my book; she went away and left them. After this the headborough came and took me up with a warrant, and carried me before justice Manwaring, and I delivered up the goods.
Prisoner. Tell in what manner I came and surrendered myself.
J. Enderson. The justice told me he hoped I would be vigilant in taking up the person that brought the goods. I heard she was going to work with some person on the other side the water; I went there, the people told me she was not come; I returned, and about eleven o'clock she came into my shop, and said, I hear you have been brought into trouble upon the account of the things I brought, I am come to clear myself, and will go wherever you please. (The goods produced in court, and deposed to by the prosecutrix).
The prosecutrix's husband was a little involved in debt; the first thing I carried to pawn for them was a duffel cloak, and I fetched it out again; the silk gown I carried to Mr. Wright in Nightingale-lane, they would let me have but four shillings for it, so I brought it to Mrs. Enderson's, she offered me six shillings on it; I went to ask whether I might take it or not? she said I might pawn it for that; she herself rolled it up in a napkin, and said to me, she had no opportunity of fetching it out till her mother went to the water-cock. She went to the pawnbroker's door, and I went in and carried it, and brought her out the six shillings, she at the same time gave me one shilling for my week's hire. I had of her twelve-pence per week, and victuals and drink. Some time after that she sent me to pawn a shift, which she wrapped up in an old rag, which I pawned for two shillings; after that she sent me out with a check apron, and a white apron, and bid me get the most I could, I carried them to a pawnbroker in East-smithfield, one I got one shilling and six-pence on, the other I carried to Mrs. Enderson, and she lent me nine-pence on it. Please to call Raby, she heard her say I carried these things for her own use, the prosecutrix desired me to lay them in my maiden name, because she had been guilty of pawning things, and her mother would not be ready to find them out.
For the prisoner.
Rachel Raby . The prosecutrix came and asked me if the prisoner was gone away? I said, I believed not, but if she was she is gone over the water; she said, if she is gone away she has done a very wrong thing by me, for she may fetch out my things and go and sell them; I said, what has she pawned of yours? she said, she has pawned a gown for a crown, an apron for one shilling and six-pence, and if her mother came to miss them, she said she would swear she had stole them.
Q. Did she mention an apron?
R. Raby. She did, but I can't remember what she said that was pawned for.
Q. What are you?
R. Raby. I wind silk for my living.
Q. How long have you known the prisoner?
Q. What is her general character?
R. Raby. She bears a good character.
Dorothy Skayne . I was at work; the prosecutrix came and asked me if I saw any thing of Anne Goadby ? I said, no; she said, I sent some things to pawn by her at a place, and she had carried them to another place, and if she does not come to me before to-morrow morning, my mother would swear I stole them, and she knocked her hand against the boards in a passion.
233, 234. (M.) Richard Griffith was indicted for stealing one weather-sheep, value 20 s , the property of Henry Worster , April, 24 , and Elisabeth Griffith , his mother , for receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen . *
Henry Worster. On the 24th of April last I missed a weather sheep out of my fold in Endfield parish at a place called Hadley ; the prisoner was taken up on the 25th, and the body and skin of a weather sheep were found in a chest in his mother's possession, she is the other prisoner; he was carried before justice Caesar at Barnet, there he owned he stole the sheep out of my ground, and he owned it at several other places.
Q. Where did he own this?
Lock. Both at my house and before the justice.
William Walker . I live at Hadley, the gentlemen of the parish had turned the woman at the bar out of doors, she living in a town-house; there was a person wanted to search a chest of hers, as it stood out at the door, for a gun that he had lost, and in searching found the carcase of a sheep, the skin and the Intrails of the sheep wrapped up in the skin, all in the chest, (the skin produced in court and deposed to by the prosecutor, as the skin of his weather-sheep he missed on the 24th of April).
Walker. I had the care of the prisoner; I heard him own he stole the sheep.
Q. How long had the chest been put out of the house the woman laid in?
Romboult. It had been put an hour and half.
Q. to Walker. How long had the chest been put out of the house before the carcase and skin were found in it?
Walker. About an hour and half.
Richard Griffith's defence.
I was in liquor and did not know what I said, I might not say I stole it for what I know.
Q. to Lock. Was the prisoner in liquor when he confessed it?
Lock. I believe he was not then, for he drank but very little beer.
Elisabeth Griffith's defence.
I was not at home when the things were put out at the door; I never saw the mutton with my eyes.
Richard guilty , Death , Elisabeth acquitted .
235. (L.) Mary Smith , widow , was indicted for stealing one three-pound-twelve-shilling piece, and five shillings in money, numbered, privately from the person of Jane Meredith , her property, Aug. 17 .It was laid over again for stealing one cloth cloak, one linen apron, one silk handkerchief, one linen handkerchief, one three-pound-twelve-shilling piece, and five shillings in money, numbered, the goods and money of Jane Meredith , in the dwelling-house of Peter Ginnard. *
Jane Meredith. I live with Mr. Peter Ginnard , in Fountain-court, Aldermanbury ; the prisoner came to our door on the Monday before last Bartholomew-fair; there had been a gentleman at our house, that dealt in Rapee-snuff, he was going out just as she came up to the door. She asked me, as I was standing at the door, if I wanted any lace? I said I did not. She said she had some that was very fine. I told her I wanted none at all. Then she told me she saw something in my face, from which she knew I little thought of coming in this place to live, or even living as a servant. I said I thought so too once. She said she would tell me a great deal more, if I would let her come in. I let her come in, and she and I went into the compting-house together; we sat down fronting the windows upon two leather chairs. She told me I was born to good fortune, and she understood all that by extrology; and that there was money hid in that house, in the cellar, and had been there for a long time, and that the time was expired when it
Q. How long, after the woman was gone, was it that you went to look at the money?
J. Meredith. I believe it was hardly half an hour after she was gone; then I came down stairs out of the dining-room, and looked about to see if she had not got something else. There were some drawers in the kitchen, in which were a good many silk stockings, I found them all safe; then looking round, I missed my cloak, a white linen apron, a silk handkerchief, and a white one, all my property.
Q. When did you see them last?
J. Meredith. I had had the silk handkerchief and white apron on that morning at breakfast, and there had been no body near them from that time to the time I missed the things, but the prisoner and myself.
Q. Is there any other woman or servant belonging to the house besides yourself?
J. Meredith. No, none but myself, and both my masters were out at that time.
Q. Have you ever met with your cloak, handkerchief, or apron since?
J. Meredith. No, I have not.
Q. When did you see the prisoner at the bar since?
J. Meredith. Never till yesterday; except once I saw a woman, which I thought was she, at a chandler's shop; I went soon to see for her, but she was gone. I laid a trap for her at the Baptist's-head, that if ever she came there again, I would give half a guinea to have her taken.
Q. Did you charge her with taking your cloak, money, and other things yesterday ?
J. Meredith. I charged her with all the things and money I lost. She had an apron on, that was altered, and is an old thing now, but I knew it to be made of mine.
Q. Are you sure that this is the woman that took the money and things from you?
J. Meredith. I am sensible this is the very woman.
I never saw her with my eyes; I am not guilty. Please your honour, I don't know what I shall say, I had not time to send for any witnesses, I was committed but yesterday.
Prosecutrix. This is the very woman that I talked to, that I gave the money to, and that returned me the money two different times.
She was detained to be tried next sessions for robbing a person of twenty-four guineas, in a dwelling-house, Jan. 13, in the 23rd year of his present majesty.
236. (L.) William Bowyer , otherwise Scampy , was indicted for stealing one silk capuchin, value 20 s. the property of Mary Grant , spinster , from the person of Edward Miller , privately and secretly from his person, May 4 . ++
Q. What is her name?
Miller Her name is Grant; coming by Fleet-bridge my pocket was picked of it, but I neither saw or felt it done; Mr. Mansel came to me as we were coming up towards Ludgate, and asked me if my pocket was not picked? I felt and found it was of the capuchin; I was for stopping to try if we could see the person that did it, but the young lady was not willing; so we walked up to the end of the Old-bailey; then Mr. Mansel stopped us again, and said, if I was willing we might put his wife, who was with him, and the young lady with me, into a house, saying, he would be lurking about and we might take him, adding, he should know the man if he could see him; so the two women went in to an acquaintance's house of his, and he and I had not gone down past three or four doors from the Old-bailey corner towards Fleet-bridge before he said that was the man, pointing to the prisoner, he was very remarkable, having got a dog wig on, that is such as some coachmen wear. I went up and seized him by the collar, and begged assistance of people that were coming by, so we secured him; we carried him to a tavern at the bottom of the hill; then we sent for the two women; the prisoner said he was in hopes to be forgiven, and said, if he was hanged or transported the lady should have her capuchin again, and accordingly he sent a person for it, who returned with it; he begged very hard for forgiveness; the cloak was laid down on the table, the lady would not touch it. We sent for a constable; she would have taken her oath to the capuchin.
Q. Where is the lady?
Miller. She had taken a place in the Norfolk-coach, and was obliged to go on the Friday morning, (the capuchin produced in court).
Q. Is that the same which was picked out of your pocket?
Miller. It is very like it; but one may be like another, so I will not swear to it.
Q. Is this that which the prisoner sent for and was brought in by his order?
Miller. It is.
George Mansel . I was following the gentleman and the lady he speaks of, about half an hour after eight that night; I saw the prisoner and his companions meet them, the prisoner turned very short and slipped in betwixt my spouse and I, and the gentleman and lady; I observed him as he followed them make three attempts to pick the gentleman's pocket, and when we got just by the Fleet-market I saw him pick Mr. Miller's pocket, but of what I can't say; I saw something drawn out of his pocket.
Q. What colour did it appear to be of?
Mansel. It appeared to be black; after the prisoner had done it he went down towards the Fleet-market, and his companions with him; I ran up to the gentleman and asked him what he had lost?
Q. What companions had the prisoner?
Mansel. He had a girl about twelve years old and a short man along with him, they seemed to walk pretty fast; I told Mr. Miller I had seen his pocket picked, he clapped his hand down, and said, he had lost a capuchin; I told him I saw the man run down towards the Fleet-market that took it, and I am positive of knowing him again; I was so near him I could have taken him in the fact, but was fearful of his companions. I said I would go along with him to help take the man if he would get some assistance, they went still before me; I thought it a pity to let the opportunity slip; I ran to him again when
Q. Look at this capuchin, can you take upon you to say this is what was taken out of Mr. Miller's pocket?
Mansel. I can't say that, but I heard the lady say it was her capuchin.
John Tustin . I am constable; about ten o'clock that night I was sent for to the Fountain tavern on Ludgate-hill, the capuchin lay on the table, there was the lady, Mr. Miller, and this gentleman sitting by; the lady said that was her capuchin, I told her she must appear next morning, the prisoner said, I am likely to suffer for it, I think it is my property, and he took it up, I took it out of his hand, and said, if you'll give me leave I'll keep it till the affair is decided; and I have had it ever since in my custody.
I was coming along by the Fleet-market, and picked up this capuchin, and carried it home to my washerwoman; after that I came to go up to my horses on Ludgate-hill, this man took hold of me and three or four more, and took me to the Fountain tavern; after we had been there about a quarter of an hour, the lady said she had lost a capuchin; I said, I had picked up one, and if they would send a porter they might have it; they sent out for a porter, when he came, I told him to go to such a place, and desire the people to send the capuchin I brought and left there; the lady said, young man, I am sorry for you, as I have got my capuchin again you may go about your business, but that gentleman would charge the constable with me.
Guilty , Death .
237. (L.) Jane Mullins , widow , was indicted for stealing one silver watch, value 30 s. two silver spoons, value 7 s. two pair of sheets, value 6 s. five linen shirts, two linen waistcoats, one silk petticoat, one linen gown, one bed-gown, one pair of cotton hose, two pair of thread hose, three linen table-cloths, nine linen clouts , the goods of Charles Chandler , April 22 .*
Charles Chandler. The prisoner did live servant with me about ten months.
Q. When did she quit your service?
Chandler. About a fortnight ago. These goods mentioned had been taken away by a little at a time; some of them I found were pawned nine months ago, some eight, some seven, and some four.
Q. Did you miss the goods when she went away?
Chandler. I can't say I did. There was a relation had left some child-bed linen at my house in a chest; she came for some of them, and called to my wife to know if she had done any thing with them, missing them out of the chest. The prisoner went away that night. Then I looked into the beaufet, and missed two silver spoons, then we suspected the prisoner.
Q. Did you turn her away?
Chandler. No, we did not. After she was gone we missed the things; we went and took her up, and she confessed where she had pawned them, and went along with us to the pawnbroker's, where we found them.
Q. When was she taken up?
Chandler. She was taken up on the 23d of April, and by her direction we found the silver watch, two silver spoons, four sheets, three tablecloths, two petticoats, one napkin, five or six shirts, and two linen waistcoats, at a pawnbroker's in Houndsditch.
Mrs. Chandler. The prisoner lived servant with me ten months and about ten days; I always, took her to be a very honest person till the 22d of April; then I had a relation came for some things, which she had entrusted under my care, and when she came to look for them, they were gone; and she went away at the time. We missed the goods mentioned in the indictment and more; and when we took up the prisoner, we
Mary Worrel . My mother is a pawnbroker; the prisoner brought the things mentioned in the indictment, and pawned them at our house; the first she brought in last September, but she was constantly coming backwards and forwards; she had some of them out several times.
Mr. Barnard. I being a near neighbour, and hearing Mr. Chandler's servant had robbed him, went to know about it. I went for the officer to come and take her up, we took her, and I heard her confess she had taken the things mentioned at several times, and told us where they were pawned. I went with the prosecutor and she to the pawnbroker's house, and found them accordingly. We could get nothing but what we named, and we were obliged to call for some things that we did not know were pawned before, and by that means we got more than we had missed; for the pawnbroker would not, at our request, look over her books, to see what she had of the prosecutor's; for the prisoner had pledged things so frequently, that she did not know what she had carried there.
238. (L.) Susannah wife to - Kirby, otherwise Susannah Kirby , spinster, was indicted for stealing one silk purse, value 1 d. one guinea, and 8 s. in money, numbered, the property of Margaret Nelson , from the person of the said Margaret, privately and secretly , April 16 *.
Margaret Nelson. I was at the rehearsal at St. Paul's walking with my arm in Mr. Law's. I felt a hand in my pocket; and said to him, there is a hand in my pocket; I bid him not say any thing till I saw whether it was picked or not. I turned about, and saw the prisoner's hand coming from under my petticoat, and my sack was up, I had a hoop on; the prisoner went to make off, I felt and found my purse was gone.
Q. When was this?
M. Nelson. It was on the 15th of April.
Q. In the church, or church-yard?
M. Nelson. In the church. It was after the music was over; there was a very great crowd of people walking. I told Mr. Law my purse was gone, and he went and laid hold of the prisoner.
Q. What was in your purse ?
M. Nelson. There was a guinea, a crown-piece, and some other silver, I don't know how much.
Q. How long before this happened had you felt your purse in your pocket?
M. Nelson. I had taken my purse out about half an hour before, to give to the collection at the door, and put it in my pocket again.
Q. Are you sure you put it in your pocket?
M. Nelson. I am sure I did; but am not sure the prisoner picked it out. The rehearsal was just over when I went in, and the coronation anthem was singing then. We took the prisoner to a house in Cheapside, I asked her to give me my money again; she said she had it not; we had her to the Compter.
Q. Did you search her?
M. Nelson. No, we did not; we suspected, if she had taken it, she had given it to some others that were near her.
John Law . I was in company with Mrs. Nelson at the rehearsal at St. Paul's; as we were walking at the west door, she said there is somebody picking my pocket; she turned about, and the prisoner at the bar was just behind her, with her hand under her sack.
Q. Did you see her hand under her sack ?
Law. I did; likewise I observed two more that seemed to be acquaintances of hers arm in arm; as soon as ever the lady discovered her hand in her pocket, the other two turned short and made off; she said, I believe I have lost my purse, keep your eye upon that person (meaning the prisoner) till I examine my pocket; she did, and found her purse gone; after that we had her taken up and carried her to the Nag's-head tavern, Cheapside, there I sent for a constable; we asked her to produce the purse, and said, if she was agreeable we would not prosecute her. She stiffly denied it; we were apprehensive she had given it to her companions, so we did not search her.
That morning I had a message come from my husband (he belongs to a man of war) to come to him at the King's-arms on Tower-hill; going by St. Paul's church, I saw a prodigious great crowd, I went in but it was all over; the lady's hoop lay, I believe, on my shoulder, but I know nothing of the taking the money.
Mary Johnson . I have known the prisoner sixteen or seventeen years; she was at a boarding-school at Northampton, and I waited on her there, I was her servant, then she was a young gentlewoman of very good character. She is daughter of Sir Ralph Hare .
Q. Have you had any acquaintance with her since?
M. Johnson. No, I have not till within these two or three days.
Prisoner. I had no thoughts of being tried; the prosecutrix sent me word the bill would not be found, so I have not called all my friends about me.
Q. to prosecutrix. Did you send her word the bill would not be found?
Prosecutrix. No, I did not; I have a letter in my pocket now which the prisoner sent to me to desire me not to appear against her, and I sent her word it would be tried to-day, and it was not in my power to help it, and I hoped she would not be found guilty.
Prisoner. Did not I insist upon being searched?
Q. to Mr. Law. Did she desire to be searched?
Law. She desired the constable to search her, but we imagined if she had got it about her she would not have desired to have been searched.
Court. That is not always a sure rule to go by.
239. (L.) Sarah, wife of - Jacobs, otherwise Sarah Sikes , widow, was indicted for stealing a two-guinea piece of gold, and sixteen guineas, the money of William Stears , privately and secretly from his person , May 5 . +
Q. Did they pick you up, or you them?
Stears. We neither of us picked the other up; I was going along the street, and they spoke to me, and I went into the room with Jacobs, the other fetched a tankard of beer, and I gave her three-pence for fetching of it; she went out of the room directly, and I was with the prisoner there near half an hour; after I had been gone from her, I went to the Three Nuns, and had been there half an hour before I missed my money.
Q. What money did you miss?
Stears. Sixteen guineas and a two-guinea piece.
Q. What time did you meet with them first?
Stears. At about half an hour after ten at night.
Q. Are you sure you had your money about you then?
Stears. I am sure I had just before I came to them in the street. I had received best part of it that day.
Q. Was you sober?
Stears. I was.
Q. Where did you find the prisoner afterwards ?
Stears. I found her in Darkhouse-lane at the Three Tuns, and took her up by the watch.
Q. How far is Darkhouse-lane from the house where you and she were together?
Stears. I believe they are a mile distance; we took her to the watch-house and searched her, and found two guineas and half upon her, and upon the bench where she sat in the watch-house I found a two guinea piece. (The two-guinea piece produced in court).
Q. Is it so remarkable a one that you can swear to it?
Stears. Yes, I can; it is my two-guinea piece, I have had it almost two years.
Joseph Weedon . I am constable; on Friday was se'nnight in the morning about four o'clock I was sent for to Billingsgate watch-house, there the prosecutor charged me with the prisoner, saying, she had robbed him of sixteen guineas and a two-guinea piece, and said he had found two guineas and a half upon her; I asked him if he thought she had any more about her? saying, we could soon search her, she was as ready to strip as he could want her. I ordered all the men out, and called some women in, they stripped her naked all but her smock and her stockings, upon turning her about there lay the two-guinea piece upon the place where she sat.
Q. Was any body else near enough so as to lay the two-guinea piece where you found it?
Weedon. No, there was not.
Q. Did you hear it drop from her?
Weedon. No, I did not.
Q. Who saw it first?
Weedon. One of the two women did.Jane Brown ; she came to see the prisoner after she was committed, I stopped and searched her, as far as decency would permit me; she said to Sarah Jacobs , why do you bring me into this trouble? give me what I gave you this morning; then Sarah Jacobs put her hand into her bosom, and took out three guineas and was going to give it her; I said, I believe these three guineas belong to the prosecutor, I'll take and keep them till the trial, (producing them).
Q. Is there any thing on these by which you can know them?
Prosecutor. There is not; I can't say that they are mine.
I know nothing about the three guineas they were the woman's property, not mine, the two guineas and a half is money of my saving up; my husband is a Jew, named Michael Jacobs , he is in the country, he used to beat me and use me very ill; I saved that up towards buying me a gown, and I did not let him know where I put it. I sell oysters and fruit and what is to be had in season.
To her character.
Q. Do you think she is worth as much as two guineas and a half, or two guineas.
E. Knot. I never saw her have so much at once.
Guilty of felony only .
William Dormer . Richard Town , the owner of the frock, is, since the robbery, inlisted for a soldier , and gone down to Leicester; on the 3d of April at night I was told a man had lost, his coat out of my house, and was also told the prisoner stole it. I went the next morning to the house where he used, there I found him; I asked him what he had done with the frock ? he said, he knew nothing of it; he was for going away, I said, he should not; he then went to the table and took up this knife, (producing one), and said, d - n your blood, if you touch me, I'll cut you down; I drew back, and he ran out; I called, stop thief, he was taken and brought back; then he said, if I would let him go, he would let me know where the frock was; and as we were going up Ludgate-hill in order to go to Guild-hall, he said the same; I said, he should not go, if he would let me know of fifty coats; so ever after that he has denied his knowing any thing of it.
Esther Dukes . I went into Mr. Dormer's house, and the prisoner was going in; Town had occasion to pull off his coat, and he threw it into my lap; the prisoner at the bar snatched it up. I said, what are you going to do with the man's coat? He went out directly; then I called and said, that man has got Town's coat.
Q. What was it made of?
E. Dukes. It was a fustian coat, with white plate buttons on it.
I went to that house, and called for a pint of beer between nine and ten o'clock at night, I staid there near a quarter of an hour, and saw this last witness there, and several more; I called for a quartern of gin, and paid for it, and for the beer, and went out at the door; and the next morning Mr. Dormer came to me, and asked me after the man's coat; I said, what man's coat? He said, the coat you stole last night. I was eating some bread and butter, and my knife in my hand; but I never offered to cut him, or any thing like it.
Thomas Bishop . On Tuesday the 22d of April, as I was coming down from my house in Holborn to Mr. Ashley's house on Ludgate-hill , just by the Fleet-market, I put my hand in my pocket, and missed my handkerchief; I said to a person that was with me, I wish you would step
++ This is a practice often used by the confederates of pickpockets to get them out of the hands of their accusers, and to escape being brought to justice.
I was coming from home by the Fleet-market and saw the handkerchief lying on the ground, I took it up, and after that the gentleman came and took hold of my collar.
242, 243. (M.) Mary Plummer , widow , and Mary Plummer , spinster , were indicted for stealing one quilt, value 2 s. two woollen blankets, value 2 s. two linen sheets, two copper saucepans with tin lids, one looking-glass, one brass candlestick, one copper tea-kettle, one brass frying-pan, and one pewter tea-pot, the goods of Anthony Wilkins , the same being in a certain lodging-room lett by contract , &c. April 10 .
Q. How many rooms?
Wilkins. One room; on the 10th of April a man that lodged in my house came and told me he believed I was robbed by Mary Plummer , he had been at the door and missed the glass out of the room; I went and met her just coming out of her room, she had locked the door and put the key in her pocket; I desired her to let me go in, she would not; I gave her all the good words I could, but could not prevail upon her so to do; then I desired her to walk into the man's room that had told me he suspected she had stole some of my things; she went in, but would not be prevailed upon to let me go into her room; then I sent for a smith to break open the door; when she saw the smith she said she would open the door; she unlocked it; when I came into the room I was very much surprized, for every thing but the bed was carried away, even as much as the chamber-pot; the prisoner told me she had got an annuity on an estate in Cranbourn-alley; I got two men to go with her to see if she could raise a friend to redeem the things; when they came back they said the people would not speak to her.
Q. Did she own she had taken the things away?
Wilkins. She did, and had pawned them.
Q. What things did you miss?
Wilkins. I missed a quilt, two blankets, a pair of sheets, two copper saucepans, and lids to them, a looking-glass, a copper tea-kettle, a pewter tea-pot, a brass candlestick, two flat irons, a pail, a frying-pan, and several other things more than are mentioned in the indictment. I went and got a constable, and took her before a justice, there she confessed where the things were pawned, some at one place and some at another. We went and found the quilt and
The looking-glass I broke the second day I was in the room, and had the frame to a place to put a new glass into it. As to the other things, I told him where they were, and he went and got them again. He went to pick my pocket of the key, and threw me down. I told him he had no right to do so.
244, 245. (L.) William Westwood and Thomas Coulson were indicted for stealing one wooden cask, value 10 d. and ten gallons of red wine, called port, value 40 s. the property of William Dickswell Grimes , April 7 . ++
Thomas Bruin . I am a cooper, and have the care of wines of Mr. William Dickswell Grimes. Thomas Heard came voluntarily to me, and said, go and take Coulson up, for he is the biggest rogue amongst them. He was taken and brought into my shop, there Heard charged him with stealing ten gallons of red wine out of the store-cellar of Mr. Grimes, in Suffolk-lane.
Q. When did he say this was stolen?
Bruin. I can't say what month it was stolen in. Mr. Barnes was along with Coulson when Heard charged him. He asked Coulson if it was true? Colson down'd on his knees, and said yes, it was, and hoped we would forgive him this time, and he never would do so again.
Q. Did you miss any wine out of the cellar ?
Bruin. I know nothing of my own knowledge of his taking it; a person may go and take twenty or thirty gallons, and it never be missed, out of the great quantity there is in the cellar.
Q. Who did you take Collins before ?
Bruin. I was with him before aldermam Bethell, alderman Chitty, and alderman Hankey; before them he was charged with stealing this wine; but to the best of my knowledge, he denied it before them all.
Q. What do you say against Westwood ?
Bruin. Westwood was my apprentice, and worked in the same vault, and he has laid out of my house many nights, and this Coulson has harboured him in his house.
Q. How do you know he has harboured him?
Bruin. I have taken him out of his house, and I have great reason to believe he has been drawn into bad company by Coulson; there they used to drink wine together.
Q. Do you know any thing of his delivering him any wine?
Bruin. No, I do not.
Q. What is Coulson?
Bruin. He is a taylor; the affair was discovered by a quarrel between Coulson and Heard.
Thomas Heard . I asked my father, the day the Medway man of war was launched*, to give me leave to go to see her, which he did. Coming home between five and six at night through Barking-alley, where Westwood and Coulson had a cellar; I saw a light there, and Coulson was standing with a ten-gallon cask in his hand, and wiping the sweat. I said, you sweat; he said he had a good load; he had brought that cask from the vaults in Suffolk-lane; Westwood said it was the same vault that you have been with me in; he had put it down but once between Suffolk-lane and there, and that was near Mr. Wilton's, a cheesemonger. There was another little cask by it, and I was going to sit down upon it; but they bid me not, for fear I should jostle it.
*The Medway man of war was launched the 17th of April.
Q. Where is Suffolk-lane?
Heard. It turns down out of Canon-street. Coulson said they must make up twenty gallons of wine, and Westwood could sell it to Tom Horsenail ; but they must have ready money for it, if they spent half a guinea to get it.
Q. Was Westwood in the hearing of this ?
Q. How came they by the two bottles of wine?
Heard. There were bottles of wine in the cellar, besides casks.
Q. Have you ever been in Coulson's house?
Heard. Yes, I have.
Q. Did you ever see any wine there?
Heard. I have, bottles of wine; he never wanted wine.
Q. Did you ever see Westwood there?
Heard. Yes, many a time.
Q. How did he appear? as a visiter?
Heard. He might be there seven or eight times a day at his house.
Q. Does Coulson rent a house?
Heard. He rents two rooms.
Q. Was you ever present whenever any of the prisoners confessed taking this wine?
Heard. I never heard them confess any otherwise but then in the cellar.
Q. Were the words, we are to make up so many gallons, or I must make up so many gallons?
Heard. Coulson said to Westwood, we must make up so many gallons, and we must have ready money for it; and Westwood said, if they would let him have ready money, he would spend ten or fifteen shillings.
Q. from Westwood to Mr. Bruin. Whether or no we were doing any business in that vault at that time?
Bruin. Westwood was at work there a little after Christmas, I can't recollect the time.
Q. from Westwood to Heard. At what time was it you saw me in the cellar in Barking-alley?
Heard. I don't know the day of the month; it was the day the Medway was launched at Deptford, about six or seven at night.
Q. About what time did it begin to be dark at that time of the year?
Heard. It began then to be dark about half an hour after four. I went that morning to Westwood, and asked if he would go and see the ship launched? He said he could not go.
Henry Barnes . On the Monday morning after the last sessions ended, I was at Mr. Bruin's house, he lives next door to me; he told me his man had been out all night, meaning Westwood; he frequently used to lie out of nights; there came a servant maid, I took it to be the witness Heard's father's maid, to tell him Westwood was at Coulson's house. Said Mr. Bruin, I will go and fetch him; so he and a watchman went and fetched him home.
Q. Did Coulson come with him?
Barnes. No, he did not. I heard Mr. Bruin say to Westwood, you use me very ill. No, said Westwood, I don't think I do. He said, you had better confess, and perhaps you may save yourself.
Q. Confess what?
Barnes. That was about stealing some linen, which Mr. Bruin charged him with. In the evening on the same day Heard the evidence came to Mr. Bruin's house, and said I will clear myself, for I am innocent.
Q. Who was by then?
Barnes. There was I and Mrs. Bruin together; then she said, who is this? though Heard is my neighbour, I do not know him. He said that Taylor is the biggest rogue; if you will but take him, you will find this house has suffered prodigiously; he has stolen wine out of a vault in Suffolk-street. I went and fetched Mr. Gardner the constable, and he and I went and took Coulson.
Q. Is the taylor the evidence which Heard meant?
Barnes. He is; he happened to be at home. I laid hold of him, and said, you are my prisoner, and you must go along with me. He said, so I will with all my heart. Coming down the bottom of the street, he made a spring to get away; but having hold of his collar, I held him fast; then he said, what business have you with me? You are no constable. Then Mr. Gardner held his staff to him, and said, smell of this. We took him to Mr. Bruin's house, there was Heard the evidence, who charged him with stealing lead from the Customhouse, and wine from a vault in Suffolk-lane.
Q. Where was Westwood then?
Barnes. He had been sent to the Compter that morning; Coulson and Heard then began to charge one another, each saying it was not me, it was you; upon being charged with taking wine from out of a vault in Suffolk-lane, all on a sudden Coulson called out, for God's sake have some pity and compassion on me, and let me go, and I shall never do so any more. I have always lived well.
Barnes. A ten gallon cask of wine from that vault; I asked Coulson if it was true what the lad said, he said it was true, and still kept begging for God's sake I would let him go.
Q. from Coulson. Whether ever you saw me do any thing that was bad?
Barnes. No, never in my life; I have seen him go backwards and forwards as a taylor, but never had any acquaintance with him.
Q. from Westwood to Mr. Bruin. Whether there was any ullage or any red wine missing in that cellar ?
Bruin. There is an ullage of red port in that vault.
James West . Coulson came to my house, my wife was at home, but I was at the India warehouse where I do business; my wife sent for me, Coulson wanted to take a cellar; he asked me what he must give per year for it? I said forty shillings; he agreed to it.
Q. Did he say who he took it for?
West. He said it was for another person that lived in Bread-street; he took me down to a house in Water-lane, there fat Westwood, he told him he had taken the cellar of Mr. West at forty shillings per year, and said to him, you must give Mr. West a shilling, then Westwood gave me a shilling, I called for a pint of beer, and threw down three-halfpence for it and went away.
Q. What was that shilling for?
West. That was earnest for the cellar.
Q. Who did you take to be your tenant ?
West. I looked upon Westwood to be my tenant, but the agreement was made with Coulson.
Q. Where is your cellar?
West. It is in Barking alley.
Q. to Bruin. Where do you live?
Bruin. I live in Water-lane.
Q. to West. Do you know what use was made of this cellar?
West. I am very seldom at home, when I have done at the warehouses I attend at an inn where I am book-keeper; I never saw any thing carried into it.
Edward Gardener . I had the charge of the two prisoners at the bar; I am constable; I carried Westwood to the Compter in the morning, and in the evening Heard came and surrendered himself; then Mr. Barnes came to me and desired me to go and take Coulson, which I did, and we carried him to Mr. Bruin's house, there he was charged by Heard with stealing ten gallons of red wine; he denied it at first; I asked him how he could be concerned with such youths as they were? and said, I believe he had been the ruin of them; at last he fell down on his knees, and desired we would let him go, and said he never would be concerned in such a thing any more.
Q. Was you with him before the alderman?
Gardener. I was before alderman Bethell, alderman Chitty and alderman Hankey; there was Westwood also, they both denied taking the wine when charged with it before them.
I am innocent of any such affair as is laid to my charge.
I am quite innocent of the affair.
To Westwood's character.
Richard Penley . I have known Westwood from his infancy, he was always a very sober and dutiful lad to his parents. I never heard any ill of him till this affair, he has been seduced to it I believe by the other prisoner.
Mr. Chapman. I have known Westwood ever since he was put in breeches, I knew him at the boarding-school at Sydenham, where I thought him remarkable above the rest of the boys. I knew his first master extremely well.
Q. Who was his first master?
Chapman. His name was Fish; I had some conversation with him about the lad, I have heard him say the lad should work with any apprentice upon the keys; I have also heard that Coulson has been a rogue from his cradle, and, I believe, that he has enticed the lad into this affair.
Henry Maynard . I have known Westwood ever since he was in petticoats; he is a dutiful boy; he never behaved himself ill as I knew of; I I had him with me eleven or twelve years till he was sent to a boarding-school; I have heard his master Fish say several times at my house, he thought there was not a better boy upon the keys, he liked him prodigiously well.
John Williams . I have known Westwood from his infancy, and never heard any ill of him before this happened; I have heard his former master give him a very good character.
To Coulson's character.
Welch Fox . I have known Coulson two years and better; he lodged at one Mr. Howard's, a brother-officer of mine. I know the other prisoner, and never heard any body speak ill of him; Coulson is a taylor, he has work'd for me, and he always gave good satisfaction to me, and others where I have known him to work, as far as I know.
Q. Have you ever been in his lodgings?
Fox. I have.
Q. Did you ever see any wine there?
Fox. No, I never did; I have seen nothing but a tankard of porter there.
Q. What are you?
Abrahams. I am a taylor; I never heard any thing to his dishonesty in my life.
Q. Where is your shop?
Abrahams. I work along with a gentleman that I served my time with.
Q. What is Coulson's general character ?
Abrahams. He has a very good character in general; he always behaved honest, as he ought.
Both guilty .
There were three other indictments against Westwood for different facts; but they not being laid capital, he was not tried upon either of them.
Mrs. Cope. My husband's name is Thomas Cope , he lives at the two fighting-cocks in Fleet-lane; I sent a pint of beer to Mrs. Stevens's, in the lane, and when I sent for the pot again, my servant returned and told me the pot was melted down.
Q. Why do you charge the prisoners?
Mrs. Cope. The prisoner lodged in the house where the beer was carried to.
Q. What was the value of your pot ?
Mrs. Cope. It was worth sixteen-pence.
Jane Chappel . I went to fetch a pint of beer from Mr. Cope's for my daughter, who was ill; in about an hour or two after, Mr. Cope's servant came for it; the pot had, a little before, stood in the window, and Anne Scott the prisoner came and took it away; she and the other prisoner lodged in the house; I went up to their room-door, and found it was fastened. Barton called and asked what I wanted? I said, a pot. She said, there was no pot there. They opened the door; I went in, and found in a closet a frying-pan, a pot part melted, the handle almost perfect, with the letter T on it plain to be seen; but the letter C was imperfect, (the frying-pan and metal produced in court).
Q. to prosecutrix. Look at that pot-handle, do you know it?
Prosecutrix. I can swear safely this is my property.
Q. Do both the prisoners live together?
Prosecutrix. They do; Barton was sick, and she let Scot be with her.
Q. Was this metal shewed to the prisoners in your presence?
Prosecutrix. It was.
Q. What did they say for themselves?
Prosecutrix. Nothing at all.
Q. Did either of them own to the melting of the pot?
Tustin. They both of them owned it; one said to the other, I would not have had you done it, the other said the same to her. Barton said she would not have had Scott to have done it, because it was Mr. Cope's pot; but first she said she found it in Shoe-lane.
Scott guilty , Barton acquitted .
John Graves , being in a lighter lying on a certain navigable river, called the river Thames , January 28 . ++
Q. What was that quantity?
Hicks. There were four quarters.
Q. What did you sell them for a quarter?
Hicks. Six shillings a quarter.
Q. Were the oats loose or in sacks?
Hicks. They were in sacks.
Q. Did you sell the sacks too?
Hicks. No, we did not.
Q. What did you do with them?
Hicks. We threw them over-board.
Q. Who sold them?
Hicks. I did.
Hicks. Yes, he was, and we received a guinea that night, part of the money.
Q. Where did you receive that money?
Q. Did either of you belong to the lighter where you took the oats from?
Hicks. No, neither of us did.
Q. What is the prisoner?
Hicks. He is a lighterman .
Q. Whose barge did you take the oats from?
Hicks. From Mr. Groves's barge.
Q. How came you acquainted with the prisoner ?
Hicks. Because we served the latter part of our times pretty near one another.
Q. Who proposed first to go and take these oats ?
Hicks. Never a one of us.
Q. Did not one propose it first?
Hicks. No, we both went together to rob the lighter.
Q. Who said first we will go and rob that lighter?
Hicks. Never a one of us.
Q. How is it possible you should go and rob the lighter, and never a one of you speak a word about it?
Hicks. We did not know what was in the lighter till we came there.
Q. Did you go with a design to take what was there?
Q. Who mentioned that design first ?
Hicks. He had told me his design, and I told him mine.
Prisoner. We went to steal the oats both together; to be sure Haynes did not receive them all, there was another bargeman had some; Haynes had but four quarters of them, another bargeman had two quarters and a half; we stole six quarters and a half in all.
Samuel Austin . There was a barge of Mr. Groves's brought some corn to me at Puddle-dock, and there were six quarters and a half stole from the barge; it was an extreme dark night they lay there, we could hear some voices on board her, but could not see so far from shore as she lay.
Q. How far did she lie from shore?
Austin. She lay eight or ten barges out from shore.
Court. Mr. Jones has been here and offered to make affidavit they were cleared by proclamation at Kingston Assize.
Nedriff. They never were down at the assize.
The evidence Hicks rowed about with his boat to see where the lighters lay, and he was to come to tell me to go along with him.
Guilty 24 s.
249. (L.) Elisabeth Bagg , otherwise Clark, otherwise More , was indicted for stealing two bed blankets, one feather bolster, one feather pillow-bear, two linen sheets, one brass sauce-pan with a copper cover, one woollen counter-pane, and one looking-glass, the goods of Margaret Mead , out of her ready furnished lodgings , May 13 . ++
The prisoner confessed at the bar she stole the goods mentioned in the indictment.
For a Misdemeanor.
Henry Govers , otherwise Debosier , whose sentence was respited in December sessions, received sentence as follows; to stand on the pillory opposite to the Royal-Exchange, betwixt the hours of twelve and one, on some one day for the space of one hour , and to be imprisoned in his majesty's gaol of Newgate one year, from the time of receiving sentence , and to give security for his good behaviour for two years after the expiration of that imprisonment, himself bound in a bond of 200 l. and two sureties, 100 l. each. and to pay a fine of 20 l.
Received sentence of death 3.
Transported for seven years 23.
John Price , Margaret Davis , Mary Goddard , Anne Hust , Grace Hatt , Bridget Jourdan , Patrick Mackey , John Wilson , Thomas Read , Mary Plummer , Eleanor Nelson , John Digenham , Patrick M'Grew, Edward Puckering , Jane Mullins , Sarah Jacobs , John Hollister , John Hayter , William Westwood , Thomas Coulson , Anne Scott , Michael Varnham and Elisabeth Bagg .
Henry Govers , otherwise Debosier , whose sentence was respited in December sessions, received sentence as follows; to stand on the pillory opposite to the Royal-Exchange, betwixt the hours of twelve and one, on some one day for the space of one hour , and to be imprisoned in his majesty's gaol of Newgate one year, from the time of receiving sentence , and to give security for his good behaviour for two years after the expiration of that imprisonment, himself bound in a bond of 200 l. and two sureties, 100 l. each. and to pay a fine of 20 l.
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