Held at Justice-Hall in the Old-Bailey, On FRIDAY January 13, SATURDAY 14, and MONDAY 16.
In the 17th Year of his MAJESTY'S Reign.
BEING THE Second SESSIONS in the MAYORALTY OF THE
Printed, and sold by M. COOPER, at the Globe in Pater-noster Row. 1744.
King's Commission of the Peace, Oyer and Terminer, and Goal Delivery held for the City of London, &c.
BEFORE the Right Honourable ROBERT Westley, Esq; Lord Mayor of the City of London the Right Honourable the Lord Chief Baron Parker , Mr. Justice WRIGHT, Mr. Justice ABNEY, Mr. Serjeant URLIN, Recorder, and others of His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer for the City of London, and Justices of Goal-Delivery of Newgate , holden for the said City , and County of Middlesex.
100. Patrick Gaffney , otherwise Casey of St. James's, Westminster , was indicted for stealing a cloth coat, value 12 d. a pair of breeches, value 12 d. a pair of stockings value 2 d. a shirt, value 2 s. a bays apron, value 10 d. a camblet gown, value 2 s. 6 d. a woman's cap, value 4 d. and a table cloth, value 1 s. 6 d. the goods of Isaac Blanchard ; to which indictment he pleaded Guilty .
+ 101, 102, 103. Thomas Talbot *, Benjamin McCoy , and Patrick Casey , otherwise Gaffney , of St. Giles's in the Fields , were indicted for stealing two camblet gowns, value 10 s. and two poplin gowns, value 5 s. the goods of John Johnson , in his shop , Nov. 29th .
John Hawkins . On the 29th Nov. I and Tho Talbot , Benjamin McCoy , and Patty Casey , stole six gowns out of a shop in High Holbourn, near St. Giles's. - Benjamin McCoy went into the shop, behind the counter, and took them off the shelf.
Q. Where were you then?
Hawkins. We stood at the door to take what he got.
Q. What sort of a shop was it?
Hawkins. It was a shop where they sell clothes.
Q. What did you do with them?
Hawkins. We pawned two for four shillings, sold one for one shilling, and another for two shillings.
Talbot. How long was this ago?
Hawkins. It was between six and seven weeks ago.
Talbot. Can you remember what time o'night it was?
Hawkins. It was between six and seven o'clock.
Q. Was it dark or light?
Hawkins. It was very dark, but there was a lamp by the door.
Q. What was McCoy's name when you were originally acquainted with him?
Talbot. [to Hawkins] did not you positively say before the Justice that there were seven gowns?
Hawkins. I said I believed there were between six and seven, I cannot tell how many he might take, there might be more or less; I had part of the money for six.
Talbot . Did we commit any other robberies that night?
Hawkins . No, not that I know of.
Johnson. Casey owned the fact, and said the other two were innocent.
Casey . I own the fact, the other two young men were not with me.
John Travers . I have known Benjamin McCoy these eight years, his father and mother are very honest people, he served his time with his father, who is a shoe-maker, and made shoes for my wife last July.
Q. What is his character as to his honesty?
Travers. I cannot say much of the matter.
Q. Has he a bad character?
Travers. He has for whoring and drinking, and quarrelling.
Q. Have you heard that he is addicted to stealing?
Travers . They said so.
John Richardson . M'Coy's father and mother were very honest industrious people. - I never heard any otherways of him, I have known him these two years. - I never heard any other ill of him than that he is given to drinking - his father is living.
+ 104, 105. Thomas Talbot and Patrick Gaffney , otherwise Casey , of St. Martin's in the Fields , were indicted for stealing a perriwig value 60 s. the property of John Penny , in his shop November 29th .
John Penny . I live in Coventry-street just at the top of the Haymarket. I lost a perriwig out of my shop-window November 29th, in the evening after candle-light, I laid it down in the window about five minutes before it was lost. - I went into the parlour behind the shop, and my servant came and told me that a man had taken a perriwig out of the window and he pursued him as far as the Haymarket, and told me that he was stopped by a little fellow who prevented him from the pursuit.
* Hawkins said on the last trial be did not know be committed any other robbery that night.
Q. How long is it ago?
Hawkins. It is about 6 weeks - it was a little after candle-light.
Q. How did you get it out?
Hawkins. One of the Prisoners lifted up the sash , and the other took the wig out.
Q. Are you sure you had no hand in taking out the wig?
Hawkins. Yes, I was as far off as I am to you. - I cannot say who lifted up the sash , because they had both their hands together.
Q. Do you know who took the wig out?
Hawkins. I did not see who took it out, Patty Casey had the wig in his apron, I saw them hussling together, and Patty Casey put something into his apron and run down the Haymarket, the barber run after him, and cried out, stop thief! and he run against me and pushed me down.
Q. Did you endeavour to stop him?
Hawkins. Yes, I stopped him with a design to prevent his running after the Prisoners, and then I went home directly. - I went first to their lodging over against the Black-Horse in Church-lane, St. Giles's, I live just by.
Q. What did you do with the wig?
Hawkins. We carried it to a barber's in Dyot-street, and sold it for a crown. - I carried the wig. - I sold the wig. - I don't know the barber's name.
Q. to Penny. Did you go to that barber's?
Penny. I got a search warrant, but he got away and has kept out of the way ever since , the evidence told me the barber's name.
Q. Did you ever see the wig in Talbot's possession?
Hawkins. Both of them had the wig on, and I had it on; none of us had it on above 4 minutes.
Q. You say you sold it to a barber.
Hawkins. We did not sell it to the barber, we carried it to him and he sold it for us for 5 s. and we gave him a shilling for selling it, and divided the 4 s. between us.
Q. What do you mean by a hoop?
Talbot. That is a brass ring such as they sell for gold ones. - I cannot say but I had the wig on my head, and I said it was a great deal too big, and I believed would not fetch much; was you ever in my company before?
Hawkins. Yes, I have several times. - I am a baker by trade, I have been a master baker and lived within 5 miles of Bath but have had misfortunes in the world.
Talbot. I believe his brother and he get their living by gaming and selling brass rings for gold ones. Guilty of the Felony .
+ 106. William Eales , of St. Sepulchre's , was indicted for stealing 113 yards of Irish linen , value 7 l. 32 yards of German linen, value 50 s. fifteen yards of cambrick, value 3 l. 41 yards of printed linen, value 2 l. 10 s. 48 yards of printed cotton, value 4 l. the goods of Thomas Hodges , in his dwelling-house , July 8 .
George Hodges . I live at the King's Arms and Key in Cheapside, I have employed the Prisoner as a porter these three years, on the 5th of July 1742, I delivered a truss to him myself, to carry to a carrier.
Q. Do you remember what goods were in that truss?
Hodges. I have a memorandum of them here.
Q. What was that memorandum taken from?
Hodges . This is a copy that was taken from my day book.
Q. Did you deliver them with your own hands to the Prisoner?
Hodges . I delivered them to him with my own hands .
Q. What was in the truss?
Hodges. There were some ribbons, &c. which are not in the indictment; five pieces of white Irish linen, 113 yards; one piece of long lawn, which is called 32 yards of German linen; two pieces of cambrick; two pieces of printed linen; and two pieces of printed cotton.
Q. What were these goods stitched up in?
Hodges . They were stitched up in what we call hessen .
Q. Where was the Prisoner ordered to carry them?
Hodges . He was to carry them to the Red Lion in Aldersgate-Street, they were directed to Robert Shepherd, of Donnington .
Q. How long was it before you missed the goods?
Hodges . It might be from a fortnight to a month, I cannot be certain, My correspondent wrote to me to know whether I had sent him the goods, and if I had, how he might come at them. I spoke to the Prisoner, and asked him concerning them: he said he had entered them in his book, (for I did not suffer him to scribble in my journal ) and that he had delivered them as I had ordered him; and I thought he was out of fault, and gave directions to sue the person he delivered them to; but having some farther information, I got a search warrant and went to Mr. Ferguson's in Barbican . and found some of my goods there, and Mr. Ferguson was so honest that he searched all his house, and sent me some goods that I could not have found.
- [The goods were produced by Mr. Hodges , and proved to be his property.]
Q. Do you remember the Prisoner's bringing any goods to you, packed up?
Eales . Yes, - it was to the best of my knowledge stitched up, he left it in my kitchen, and desired it might be carried up stairs, and in a few days he came again and said he wanted to speak with me; he came up stairs and said I must do a thing for him or else he was ruined for ever - he belonged to the fire-office; he said he had pawned his coat and badge, and if I did not pawn some things for him, he should be ruined for ever; so he took a knife out of his pocket, cut open the parcel, and took out some things. - the first things he took, to the best of my knowledge, were two pieces of printed linen, he put them into my apron and I went and pawned them.
Q. Where did you carry them?
Eales. I carried them into Barbican. I do not know the gentleman's name, it went by the name of Stone - I carried them at several times, one was a very beautiful piece, I can stand to that piece.
Q. Are you sure you carried that piece there?
Eales. Yes .
Q. What money had you the first time?
Eales. I had two guineas the first time - I cannot tell how many times I went.
Q. How much money had you in the whole?
Eales . I cannot tell - to the best of my knowledge it was about seven pounds .
Q. What did you do with all this money, be it more or less?
Eales . He had it all. I pawned the things by his direction.
Q. How much money had she of you?
Cadwallader. I believe in the whole she had nine pound.
Q. to Eales. Did the Prisoner live with you?
Eales. No, he did not live with me, he lived in Ivy-lane.
Q Where are your witnesses, you said you would prove this woman perjured.
Pris. I was to carry these goods to the inn to go by Robinson and it was not his week, it was Drury's week, and I carried them to my brother's house till the next week came. I told her I wanted a guinea and she refused it me, and my brother denied it me, I speak with as much truth and justice as if I was before the god of heaven, that she pawned the things, and converted them to her own use.
Eliz. Eales. I did it all by his desire, and he had the whole money if there's belief in a Christian.
Prison. You are a wicked liar, how can you tell such a story you lying wicked jade. Guilty 39 s.
Mary Stanhope . I keep an eating-house at the Swan in New-street Covent-Garden , the Prisoner was my servant , I lost the lid of a silver tankard, but I did not miss it till Mr. Quillet at the Ring and Pearl at Charing-cross, sent for me on Thursday, December 22. The Prisoner said he took it out of the bar, and I found it at Mr. Quillet's. I used the Prisoner very well he had no occasion to serve me so.
Stephen Quillet . December 22, the Prisoner came to my shop and asked me whether I would buy the lid of a tankard, I told him I could not tell, till I had seen it; he showed it me and said, it was his aunt's. I bid him fetch her, he said he would go and fetch her, he came back in about 5 minutes, and said his aunt would not come back with him; I told him I would not buy it without his aunt was present and bid him fetch her, he was gone the second time about six or seven minutes; when he returned, he said his aunt would not come back, but said there was a friend of his that would give him a character. I said I would send for his aunt, I called a porter and sent him to the Bear and Ragged-staff in St. Martin's lane, but she would not come; he sent me to one Mr. Gardner who lives in our neighbourhood, he said his aunt kept a publick house, and he said, that he believed him to be a very honest lad; when he came back again I belive he thought I was going to buy it of him, for he said it was very good of you to enquire into people's characters before you buy things; but said I, this does not satisfy me, I must go to your aunt and know from her own mouth whether it is her's or no. I enquired where his aunt lived, and he said she lived at the White Swan in Long-Acre, but she did not live there, so I secured him, but he would not tell me where he lived till he was in custody, and then he said he lived with Mrs. Stanhope ; I sent to her, she came and brought the other part of the tankard with her and owned it - it weighs 7 ounces and an half.
Prisoner. Was that lid of the tankard ever out of your liberty since you had it?
Quillet. It never was out of my custody. Guilty .
+ 108. John Read , of St. Martin's in the Fields , was indicted for assaulting Mary Richardson on the Highway, putting her in fear, and taking from her a camblet cloak value 2 s. her property , December 18 .
Q. Did you observe more than one?
Richardson. I cannot tell. - I don't know what part of the street it was in.
Q. Were you knocked down with a stick?
Richardson. No, it was with their fists. - I could not see whether they were men or women.
Q. Where did the blow light?
Richardson. It was either upon my head or shoulders, they took my cloak, I begged of them not to take it but they would.
Q. Where were you going then?
Richardson . I was going home. - I am a pensioner in St. Martin's workhouse.
Q. How did you come to know any thing of the Prisoner being the person that robbed you?
Richardson. About a fortnight after my cloak was taken away, a woman came into the work-house and I was called down to her, she said, are you the woman who lost cloak , (I thought she was come to bring me my cloak again) I said yes, the woman said, if you will do me no harm it shall be two
John Hawkins . On Sunday night before Christmas-day, the Prisoner, Patty Casey , and I, went out with a design to get money or what we could in the way of thieving, and we robbed this woman of a cloak.
Q. What time of night did you set out?
Hawkins. It was about half an hour after six. Patty Casey was taken up that night and carried to St. Martin's Roundhouse, and about the middle of New street very near St. Martin's-lane, Read and I met the Prosecutrix, Read knocked her down and I took the cloak off her shoulders, the cloak was very dirty.
Q. In what manner did you knock her down, was it with a stick?
Hawkins. No, he hit her with his fist.
Q. How do you know it was this woman that he knocked down?
Hawkins. Because I knew the head of the cloak again when I saw her before the justice. - I am sure it is the same woman. After this we carried the cloak to our lodging, and offered to sell it to one Margaret Casey , and she said she would not buy it; then the Prisoner took the cloak away and sold it, but I had no part of the money. - We did not take the head of the cloak.
Margaret Casey . John Hawkins lived next door to me, and on Sunday night before Christmas between 7 and 8 o'clock in the evening, the Prisoner and Hawkins offered to me a cloak, I asked them how they came by it, they said they got it of an old woman by Covent-Garden.
Q. Which of them had the cloak in his hand when they came to you?
Casey . When they came in I was in the yard, and they had laid the cloak down upon a box. - Both of them offered to sell it me - they offered it for 2 s. and I told them if they would let me have it for a farthing I would not have it?
Q. Did they tell you how they came by it?
Casey . They did not tell me that, I did not ask them.
William Atney . I was at the taking of the Prisoner. he was carried before a Justice and committed to New Prison for farther examination; as I was carrying him there he desired to be admitted an evidence, I asked him what he could do, he said he could do more than Hawkins could, I asked him what that was, he said he could produce the old woman's cloak for he was the person who sold it, to one Bess Keene in Cross-lane.
Q. Had there been any particular enquiry made into this before?
Prisoner. I was at work at my father's when you took me.
Atney. I know you were, Casey went in first and I afterwards.
Prisoner. Since I have been taken up my mother is dead, and all my friends are gone to her burial. - She is to be buried to day at Clermont . Mrs. Richardson declared before the Justice that she was drunk, and did not know how her cloak was taken from her.
Richardson. I was a little in liquor, but they knocked me down and took my cloak from me.
Q. Was not you so drunk that you did not know any thing of the matter?
Richardson . I cried out and begged them not to take my cloak.
Q. Did you tell the Justice that you were so much in liquor at that time, that you could not give a complete account of the matter.
Richardson. They brought it out, they came to me, I did not know where to find them. - I really cannot tell what I said.
Q. Did you tell before you lost the cloak?
Richardson. I believe I did fall.
The putting in fear not being fully proved, the Prisoner was acquitted of the robbery, and found guilty of the felony .
+ 109, 110. John Burton *, otherwise Appleby , and Henry Burroughs , otherwise Cobler , of St. James's, Clerkenwell , were indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Moses Johnson , about the hour of nine in the night, and stealing two woollen caps, value 18 d. the property of the said Moses Johnson , Dec. 17 .
*He was an accomplice with, and evidence against Richard Warwick , tried in June sessions; see trial 335, page 203. And also against John Bunn , and Joseph Leach , tried in September sessions; see trial 417, and 418. page 242. who were all capitally convicted for robbing James Fennel , a Taylor, near Rosemary-Lane; and last sessions received sentence of transportation for 14 years.
Moses Johnson . On the 17th of Dec. I went out about half an hour after seven in the evening, and about nine my maid came to fetch me home, and acquainted me that my shop window was broke, and she believed I was robbed: I came home directly, and missed some caps, I am sure to two double-seamed worsted caps, one of them was picked up in the street by my servant - the shop was not shut up then, the door was fastened, but the shutters were not put up.
John Thorne . On Saturday the 17th of Dec. the two Prisoners and I came out from Rag Fair together between six and seven o'clock, with a design to rob any body we could, or get what we could; when we came to Mr. Johnson's shop John Appleby broke the window, (I don't know that he went by any other name) he broke one pane first, to get at the show-glass, and then he broke another with design to come at some worsted caps; he could not come at the show glass, because there was another glass between - I cannot say whether either of the Prisoners took any caps or no, because I was upon the look out, to see if any body came along the street; upon the window's being broke Mr. Johnson's wife whittled out, stop thief, and I was presently taken.
Q. Do you know what caps you had there?
Johnson. There might be five or six dozen lying there for what I know, I missed two, but I might lose more.
Q. Who broke it?
Johnson. I cannot tell, I was below stairs, and heard something break; I came up directly, and caught a man's hand in the window, with the caps in his hand.
Q. Whose hand did you catch in the window?
Johnson. Burrough's hand; I saw his face through the window, I took hold of the caps while they were in his hand.
Q. Look at him and see if you are sure he is the man.
Johnson. I believe it to be the same man, he in the blue gray, he was on the outside of the window.
Q. How could you see his face then?
Johnson. There was a large candle in the shop, and I dout the candle to his face, before he would let go.
Q. Had he hold of any more caps?
Johnson. He had hold of a great many caps.
Q. How many caps did you see drawn through the window?
Johnson. There were some caps drawn through, for my servant found one in the street under the window, and I took it from her; how many they got before I cannot tell, for the window was broke in two places.
Q. What distance was there between the panes that were broke?
Johnson. There was one pane; there was a showglass with some silver ribbons in it, and they broke one pane to come at that, but they could not get at it for the glass in the inside.
Q. Did you see any body run away?
Johnson. I did not see any body run, for I had a great door to open, and before I could get it open they were all gone - I saw no other person but him that I saw through the window - I cried out stop thief, and Thorne was immediately apprehended.
Charles Shippey . I work next door to the place where this robbery was committed, I am a cooper, at the Hoop and Adze, I happened to go out to the door between eight and nine in the evening, and the Prisoners were at Mrs. Johnson's window and about the door.
Q. What did you see them do?
Shippey. I will tell you if you please to give me leave. I had no suspicion when I first saw them at all, and I suppose they thought that I should tout them, or hinder them in their design; says he in the blue coat, [Burroughs] Jack, shall we have a pint of beer, or can we have a dream of gin; I made a particular remark of all three of them for then I thought what they were; they went into an alehouse, the Hoop and Adze, and called for a quartern of gin - I looked at the clock, and it was then between eight and nine. Burroughs had his hat flapping over his eyes, that I should not see his face, for I looked very hard at them, and after they had drank their gin, Burroughs gave the accomplice (Thorne) three half-pence to pay for it; when Appleby had got the gin in his mouth he held down his head to spit it out, and the other stooped, and was complaining of his shoes being worn out; and standing pretty near the fire, somebody asked him what made him so cold? He said, If you went as near the ground as I, you would be cold too. After they were gone out of the house, I said, these three fellows look as if they would break their necks in going to Paddington. Mrs. Spriggs, the woman of the house, said she believed they had a mind to rob somebody; said I, I believed they are going to rob Mrs. Johnson . Mrs. Spriggs went out to look, and came in again, and said my heart is ready to burst, there is one of them against Mrs. Johnson's window now, and another on the other side of the
Q. How did you know him?
Shippey . I knew him by the sear in his face - I did not see any of them run away, but I was very quick in catching of him; I carried him, back to the Hoop and Adze , and asked him if he was not ashamed to rob people who work hard for their living? He said he did not come to rob any body; he said that he was going to Smithfield, and came in to drink with the Prisoners , but never saw them before in his life. We secured him, and the next morning had him before a Justice, and hearing of Long Charles , as they call him, his name is Charles Reddington , and as he is a thief-taker, and conversant with such sort of people, we acquainted him with the affair, and asked him if he did not know any thing of them, and so they were apprehended.
William Stevens . The Prisoner follows a dust cart, and came the 30th of Dec. to Mr. Travers's, he came down for the dust, and the next morning I missed a spoon which lay upon the dresser in the kitchen, it was advertised, and I went to the pawnbroker's and saw it.
Thomas Birch . On the 31st of Dec. the Prisoner brought a spoon to Mrs. Parson's, I looked upon the back of the spoon, said I, this spoon has a crest upon it, and it does not look to be your property, he said it was not his property, but that he came from one Miller a master brick-maker at the Pinner of Wakefield . - He said his master wanted a little money, and that he was ashamed to come himself. I desired him to tell his master to come, he went as far as Gray's-Inn-Gate , and said his master could not come, I said if he would send any body to give me satisfaction that it was his spoon I would take it in; but as he did not, I stopt the spoon and advertised it.
Prisoner. If I had stole the spoon I would not have told where I had lived; I found it in the dust cart.
Thomas Miller . I am acquainted with Mr. Miller, the brickmaker, I was by at the taking of the Prisoner, he said he carried it to pawn, and that he was refused money upon it: but he said before the Justice he found it in the dust cart. - He does not belong to Mr. Miller. he is only a trouncer that follows the dust carts. Mr. Miller has whipped him out of his yard several times. Guilty .
Daniel Macklecan . I was at supper at Mr. Stiles's , and some of the company would persuade me there was a noise in the next room; I listened, and presently I heard somebody there, but I would not say so because I would not frighten them. I saw the Prisoner going down stairs, and when he was upon the landing place I threw the candle and candlestick at him, and then I threw a brush after him. I had like to have tumbled over him; there was another fellow with him or I should have taken him sooner, but I was afraid of being knocked o' the head.
Prisoner. Is it likely such a boy as I should make such a Man as he is afraid - [The Prisoner was a small lad about 15.]
John Harrison . Between 6 and 7 in the evening, I was in the parlour in Mr. Matthews's house over-against Mr. Stiles's, I saw something white lie at the door and took it up, this is the same gown, it was neither dry nor wet.
Prisoner. I had been to see my friends at Kensington , and as I was coming along I heard a great noise, and at last a cry of stop thief, and they crying out stop thief, I cried out stop thief, but I know nothing of what they say. Guilty .
Prisoner. I was transported out of this place the 14th of April last.
113. Elizabeth Parsons , of St. George Bloomsbury , was indicted for stealing two tin canisters, value 18 d. a quarter of a pound of green tea, value 2 s. a quarter of a pound of bohea tea, value 2 s. and four pound of snuff, value 6 s. the goods of George Robinson , January 4th .
Jane Robinson . On the 4th of this month between 7 and 8 at night, I was sitting in a room joining to my shop, and I thought I heard a noise; I came out and found the shop window open, I thought somebody had been playing the rogue, not suspecting any thing of thieves, but looking down Plumber's-Court I saw a woman, said I, woman or mistress, I cannot tell which, why do you open my sash-window ? I laid hold of her, and found a canister
Stephen Peters . Mrs. Robinson keeps a coffee-house in Plumber's Court , in Holbourn, I was in the coffee-house, and heard this gentlewoman cry out she was robbed; I went out and took one of those canisters and the snuff off the ground - the Prisoner said she bought them; she was very drunk, I believe she did not know what she did.
Prisoner. I had been at Mr. Sherrard's, the surgeon, to have my leg dressed, and coming along the court, I saw a woman drop these canisters, run away, and I could not run after her; I found them on the ground.
The Prosecutor recommended her to the court for corporal punishment.
+ 114. Simon Bailey *, of St. Luke's, Middlesex , was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Samuel Meager , about the hour of 7 in the night, and stealing 3 silk gowns, one cotton gown, 2 stuff gowns, 12 caps , 12 handkerchiefs, 12 aprons, a silk hood, a pair of shoes, 2 pair of stockings, 2 callimanco peticoats, a hat, a shirt, a pair of cambric ruffles , a pewter tea-pot, &c. amounting to about the value of 12 l. the property of the said Samuel Meager , November 15th . And
Catharine Meager . I lost the goods mentioned in the indictment. I went out about 4 o'clock in the afternoon and left my door fast, and when I returned, about half an hour after 7 in the evening, I found the street-door quite open, the window open, with the lead cut away, and some of the glass taken out - I have never had one rag of the things again.
Richard Clay +, the Prisoner, Bailey , is a carpenter, I am a stocking-weaver - I have known Bailey about five or six months; on the 15th of Nov. about 7 o'clock in the evening, we went to Mr. Meager's house, in Blue-anchor , in White-cross Street , there is a little yard before the house , the outer gate was shut. Simon Bailey lifted me and I leaned over and unbolted the gate on the side, and then we took two panes of glass out of the window, and I went in at the window; I opened the outer door of the house , and then he came in to me; we took some things out of the house, and carried them to Mr. Wyenn shop, at the sign of the Grid Iron , in White-cross Street - we took first, below , a tea-pot , a copper pankin, &c. we left them with her, and she lent us her husband's dark lanthorn, (I think he belongs to the Exise-Office) we went back again to Meager's house, and both of us went up stairs , opened a box, and took out five gowns, and 5 peticoats, a dozen of caps, and a dozen of aprons, &c. [the Pri soner repeated the things pretty exact, as in the indictment] we tied them up in two aprons, Samuel Bailey took one, and I took the other, and carried them to Mrs. Wilson's , and sold them to her for 55 s. - she paid us two guineas and a half in gold, and 2 s. 6 d. in Silver.
Q. How came you to take so little for them?
Clay. Why, those that buy these things always buy good bargains - we divided the money between us in Mrs. Wilson's room, up one pair of stairs.
Q. Did Mrs. Wilson ask you how you came by them, or any questions about them?
Clay. She did not ask any questions, because she knew how we came by them - we told her we were going to get some more things; she said take the dark lanthorn, and see what you can find - she has often bought things of us.
Pris. Bailey. Was I with you when this robbery was committed?
Clay. You went along with me, and was there all the time; we bought a half-penny-worth of small beer at the chandlers shop in the alley.
Bailey. Can you bring any body to prove what you swear against me?
Clay . How should I, there's nobody but Mrs. Wilson who bought the goods of us knows any thing of it.
Q. to Mr. Meager. How came you to get knowledge of this Clay?
Bailey. I never was concerned with him but in one robbery.
Clay. When we were before the Justice he said he had part of the money.
William Wells . He served about a year and an half apprentice with me, he behaved very justly, I could have trusted him with any thing, he has been out of his time two years, he has a good character in Essex and London.
Robert Mason has known him from 5 years of age, Samuel Davis 16 years, William Wilson and James Burkitt , and Thomas Purvey some years, and gave him a good character, but none of the witnesses give any account of him within these six months.
- Hartley. I am servant to Mr. Archendel , who deals in hard metal, we had an errand boy robbed us and carried goods to her to sell, she stopped them and informed us of it.
- Taylor . I am a paper-maker. I used to buy rags, &c. of her, I have known her 3 or 4 years, I never heard any harm of her.
+ 116. Joseph * Isaacs , otherwise M'Coy , of St. Giles's Cripplegate , was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling house of Nathaniel Ward about the hour of eleven in the night, and taking from thence a silver tea pot, lamp and stand, value 5 l. 10 s. a large two handled silver cup, value 50 s. six tea spoons, value, 16 s. a pair of sheets, value 9 s. a table cloth, value 5 s. a napkin, value 18 d. a towel, value 6 d. three shirts, value 3 s. and six caps, value 6 s. the goods of Nathaniel Ward , November 6th .
* He was tried in December sessions 1742. for a burglary and acquitted, and then admitted an evidence against John Robinson and Jacob Cordosa . See trials 41, 42 and 43. Page 30. He was likewise and accomplice with Samuel Moses , Michael Jude ; and Solomon Athorne , in breaking Mr. Young's house in Bloomsbury , Nov. 9th last, for which they were tried Decem. 12th in last sessions, and convicted , but M'Coy was not committed till Decem. 14th. Trial 74, 75, and 76. Page 30.
Nathaniel Ward . I live at the corner of White's Alley in Little Moorfields , on the 6th of November about ten o'clock at night we went to bed, and in the morning I found the house was broke open, and I lost the goods mentioned in the indictment, there were two panes of glass taken out of the casement, and the inside shutters were burst open, they broke open the corner cupboard and took out the plate, and the linen they took out of a drawer.
Richard Clay . On the 6th of November about 11 o'clock at night, I and the Prisoner and one John Paine , went to the Prosecutor's house; I took two panes of glass out of the casement, and the Prisoner opened the casement and pushed the shutters open, and the casement was so narrow, that I could not get in without taking off my clothes, and he held them while I went in, and I handed the things out to them. - I took the plate out of a corner cupboard by the window, and the linen out of a drawer, we sold the plate to one Akares a Jew for five pounds, and the linen to Mary Wilson for four shillings. [ Wilson was tried with Simon Bailey in the preceding trial as an aecessary ]. The money was equally divided between us, I told Mr. Ward all these things when he came to me in Clerkenwell , Bridewell.
Nathaniel Ward . I had the discovery of these things from Clay, he sent for me to Bridewell, and he gave me the same account then as he has given now, and such a particular account that no body could do but the persons who did it.
Prisoner. When Clay was before the Justice, he said I was not with him when the robbery was committed.
Clay . I did not say any such thing.
Prisoner . You do this to save your own life and take away mine, pray my Lord enquire into his character.
Clay. Your character is like mine, I have proved myself a rogue and so have you, for you were an evidence against Cordosa and Robinson, so you cannot brag of your honesty any more than I can of mine.
Simon Bailey . [He was tried with Mary Wilson .] The next day after this robbery was committed, Dick Clay told me that he and Jack Paine committed this robbery, and that there was no body else with them. Clay said he went into the house and threw a table cloth out of the window upon Paine, and then he said he looked like a miller; he said he sold the things to a Jew in Rag-Fair.
Q. When did he tell you this?
Bailey. The day after the robbery was committed.
Q. What day did he say the robbery was committed?
Bailey. The beginning of November.
Q. What day of November?
Balley. The 5th of November at night, - about ten o'clock at night; and he said it was advertised that the house was broke open at six o'clock, and he laughed and said, they were mistaken, for it was broke open at ten.
Q. On what day of the month was this said to you?
Bailey. It was the sixth day that he told me this, and he said the robbery was committed the 5th of November.
Q. How came he to make a discovery of this to you?
Q. I thought you had no acquaintance with such wicked men as these, how came you acquainted with them?
Bailey. No farther than by drinking together.
Q. Who else was there?
Bailey . Nobody.
Q. Was not Mrs. Wilson there?
Bailey. No - there were 3 or 4 men there.
Q. How long have you been acquainted with the Prisoner?
Bailey. I never saw him in my life till I came into Newgate, which is a week and 2 or 3 days.
Jury. What day of the week was the 6th of November?
Bailey . I did not take any account of that - it was either Tuesday or Wednesday.
Clay. It was on a Sunday night that we committed the robbery.
Q. to Ward. Was it the 5th of November?
Ward. It was Sunday November 6th at night.
Prisoner. I was not in England till the 14th of November.
Q. Do you hold it to be lawful to give evidence on your Sabbath?
Lyon. Yes, we are at liberty to attend to tell the truth upon the Lord's day, as well as any day. I arrived at Amsterdam the 1st or 2d of Oct. and saw the Prisoner there - he was there before me.
Q. How long have you been acquainted with him?
Lyon. Not long - I have known him by seeing him in England about three years ago - in Duke's Place.
Q. What is the Prisoner's business.
Lyon. I don't very well know; I know he had some leather breeches to sell in Holland - I came home with him from the Hague; we had a passport from the Ambassador to come in the packet boat.
Q. When did you arrive here from the Hague ?
Lyon. To the best of my knowledge it was the 14th of November at night - I cannot say to a day.
Q. Do you speak of Old Stile or New Stile?
Lyon. It is the English reckoning.
Q. Do you know the Old Stile from the New?
Lyon. I know there is 11 days difference - we came from the Hague the 4th of Nov. we were 10 days in coming from Holland to England; the Prisoner was sea-sick; I carried him to one Mr. Simpson's to lodge, and he lodged there, and being sick I lent him 8 s. - if I was to meet any body upon the road that was in distress I would do the same.
Q. Did not you visit him when he was sick?
Lyon . I never visited him there, Mr. Simpson told me he paid him.
Lyon. I was not in town then.
Q. Where was you then?
Lyon. I was coming over - I am sure I was not here then.
Benjamin Simpson . I have known the Prisoner ever since he has been a child - he was born in Duke's Place; Mr. Lyon brought him to my house the 14th day of last Nov. he happened to be sick when he came.
Q. How came you to know the day?
Simpson. Because I deal in money, and I happened to have a good bargain that day, and therefore I remember the day.
Q. How long did he stay at your house?
Simpson. He staid from the 14th of Nov. 'till the 20th, he came on Monday and stayed 'till Sunday following.
Q. Do you speak of Old Stile or New Stile ? Do you speak according to our computation?
Isaac Joseph . Yes - when I saw Mr. Lyon, he said he had brought somebody sick with him from Holland, and that he had not eat any thing for a good while; said I, he is nothing else but sea-sick, and we had a fowl; and he had half the fowl.
Q. Who was this sick person?
Q. You are certain to the time, are not you?
Jacob Moses . I have nothing else to say, than I was in the English camp in the army in Flanders - I was at Dettingen - I saw King George very often there - I have seen King George and other Kings too.
Q. Did you see the Prisoner there?
Q. What do you know of the Prisoner?
Jacob Moses . I was with Abraham Lyon the 9th or 10th of October, in Holland; I said who is here else? he told me this Prisoner at the Bar; I desired to know whether he went to England, for my desire was to send a letter to my wife; and I gave a letter to him in their quarters.
Jury. Do you know when your wife received the letter.
Jacob Moses . I know nothing of that, I know no more; I went directly to Brussels - I gave him my letter the 10th or 11th of Oct. - I cannot tell whether it was on a Tuesday or Wednesday - we went by the stile of the English.
Isaac Navarro . I was a Prisoner at the Poultry Compter for debt, and Richard Clay came in a Prisoner there, along with Abraham Pass , who was hanged about two sessions ago - Clay was brought in for robbing. I believe Abraham Pass did peach Dick Clay , and this Clay took a great and swore he would hang half a dozen Jews before had done. After I was cleared by the act, I met this fellow in Sun-Street, by Bishop-Gate-Street, and Clay said d - n your eyes , I will have 50 of was hanged in less than half a year's time.
Clay . I don't know that ever I saw him in my life.
Wilson . Yes, as to the Prisoner at the bar I don't know him, I only come to speak with regard to what Richard Clay said; he said that as to the Jew he was not concerned with him in the robbery, but he would swear against him to make his information good; I went to speak to Clay about my wife , for it was hard that she should be put into the information.
Q. You did not see the Prisoner in Nov. last, did you?
Wilson. I never saw the Prisoner till I went to see my wife under her misfortunes.
Wilson. I never saw you there in my life.
Clay. You knew your wife bought stolen goods, and I have had your dark lanthorn, as you are a Custom-House officer, to go a thieving with - I never had it of him. Guilty Death .
+ 117. Anne Sonee , of St. George the Martyr , was indicted for stealing a pair of stays, value 20 s. a silk petticoat, value 15 s. a velvet hood, value 5 s. a cloth cloak, value 5 s. a pair of damask shoes 5 s. a pair of clogs, value 3 s. three shifts, value 15 s. three aprons, value 7 s. 6 d. two cambrick mobs, value 4 s. a suit of cambrick head clothes, value 5 s, two pair of cambrick ruffles , value 4 s. four pockets, value 1 s. and a silver salver, value 2 l. the property of Jane Reynolds , in the dwelling-house of John Field , Dec. 10th .
Jane Reynolds . I lost all these things out of my drawer and trunk, in John Field 's house, Lamb's Conduit Passage ; I missed them on a Saturday morning about 11 o'clock, the Prisoner lay in the house. I had no
Jane Humphreys . The Prisoner's mother unfortunately came to my house, and desired me to assist her, for her daughter was accused with taking these things; I went according to her mother's desire to see whether it was true, and I lifted up her coats and apron to see whether she had the things; she untied her petticoats and the things fell to the ground; I never asked her how she came by them, for I was in a very great fright; Mrs. Reynolds said they were her things; the Prisoner lay with me some time before, at her mother's desire, and was very just and honest to me, I lost nothing; I have not a lock upon my drawers, and there are things of great value in them. Guilty 39 s.
+ 118. Mary Cawdell , was indicted for stealing a pink coloured silk damask gown, value 50 s. a white silk damask gown, value 20 s. a red and white sattin gown, value 10 s. a blue silk gown, value 10 s. a flowered cotton gown, value 10 s. some linen, a child's scarlet cloth cloak, a velvet cap, and a parcel of childrens wearing apparel, &c. the property of Charles Corbet , in his dwelling house , Dec. 12th .
Mrs. Corbet. My gowns were locked up in my drawers, and the children's clothes lay in a closet in the room where the Prisoner lay I missed them on Sunday the 11th of Dec. I went up for something for Mr. Corbet, and found that all these things were gone - I cannot say when I saw the gowns last, for I do not dress myself much in winter time. - I saw one of them about three weeks before.
Q. What did she say when the robbery was found out?
Corbet. She did not say any thing till I went to her when she was in custody to ask her where the things were, and then she told me they were all at Mr. Brooks's , the pawnbroker's.
Q. What did the Prisoner say to you about these things, have you had any conversation with her about them?
Charles Corbet . I have had talk with her about them more than once, and she confessed that she had taken all these things herself, and pawned them from time to time at Mr. Brooks's; she said she took the child's things out of the closet above stairs - she said she took the other things out of the house.
Q How came you to find out that the things were at Mr. Brooks's ?
Mr. Brooks. The things were pledged to me in the name of Mary Lee ; Mr. Corbet had given out advertisements by a porter, and I stopped the Prisoner; the gowns lay upon the counter six hours before I lent any money upon them; I have suffered very severely, I lent 3 l. 11 s. 5 d. upon them, it is very hard to lose that; Mr. Corbet offered a reward of five guineas, and he has not paid that.
Corbet. I am ready to pay it now.
Mr. Corbet very readily paid the five guineas to Mr. Brooks in court.
Charles Clavey . The Prisoner at the bar is an accomplice with William Randall , a footman of mine whom I have in custody, I have lost several goods at different times, but this in particular I found in the Prisoner's custody.
Q. When did you miss this first?
Clavey . I cannot swear to the time.
Q. Where was it found?
Clavey. It was found at a pawnbroker's, pawned by the Prisoner at the bar.
Q. When did you find it?
Clavey. I found it the 29th of December.
Q. How do you know it to be your's?
Clavey. I know it by my mark, 'tis marked in three places that I can swear to.
Q. How came you to find it out?
Clavey. I had an information from a person that the Prisoner at the bar was an accomplice with a servant of mine, who is indicted for the like offence , and suspected that he had pawned some of my goods: upon this information I desired my apprentice to go to Mr. Price's and enquire whether there was any such thing pawned to him; this Gentleman came to me very handsomly the next morning, and told me that he had such a thing, and the Prisoner was taken up directly; as to his character it is very notorious.
Prisoner. Please to give him his oath whether I ever pawned any thing to that gentleman.
Thomas Parker , and whether he had at any time pawned any linen at our house. I had some company at my house then, it being in the Christmas week, so I sent my servant to acquaint him that I would let him know in the morning. I examined, and found that there was a parcel entered in my book in the name of Parker; a coat and a remnant of linen, which the Prisoner pledged in the month of September last; I went to him the next morning and told him there was a little remnant of a coarse piece of Irish linen, and that I apprehended it to be the fag end , and thought by that he might satisfy himself whether it was his, and desired him to come to our house to see it; he came to our house, looked upon, and saw some marks by which he knew it.
Q. Who pledged that to you?
Price. This was pledged at our house by the Prisoner, he delivered it to me himself.
Q. Did you know him before?
Price. I have known the man some time, he bought a watch of me within these twelve months and paid for it.
Prisoner. I own I pawned the things about five months ago: Mr. Clavey's servant came to me with a coat and a piece of cloth, and he said Mr. Clavey gave him the coat; he said he was going out of town and wanted a little money, and if I could get him half a guinea upon them it would be of some service to him. I told him I would try, and I carried them to Mr. Price's, as I had pawned some things of my own there before, and I pawned them for him to this gentleman, and gave him the half guinea.
Clavey. There's another material witness, but we think he is sent out of the way.
Q. to Mr. Clavey. Have you seen the Prisoner frequently about your shop?
Clavey, Yes, he has been in the shop frequently, and I believe oftner than I knew of.
[The Prisoner was informed, that he might choose whether he would be sworn or not, because he was not obliged to answer any questions that might tend to accuse himself; he paused some time, and then consented to be sworn.]
Clavey . He had some goods of me, but this is no part of them. I can prove when this piece of goods came into the house.
Randall. I bought it of my master, and desired the Prisoner to pawn it for me. [The bill of parcels was produced.] This is the piece, it is charged to me the 21st of June.
Q. How long is it ago since you bought that of Mr. Clavey?
Randall. I believe it was about seven months ago.
Q. Who did you buy it of?
Randall. I bought it of Mr. Hodgkins the youngest apprentice but one, and my master said he could afford to sell this at 1 s. 9 d. a yard, and he charged me two shillings for it. Acquitted .
Charles Clavey . About the 20th of December last, I had occasion to look out ten yards of Irish linen for a customer, and I first went to the cut pile as we call it, to see if there was any thing there that would do. I looked out this remnant, and thought it was about 10 yards, and that it would do; when I came to measure it was but eight yards three quarters, and finding the quantity not sufficient, I put it again into the pile: the next morning I looked out a whole piece of cloth, and had a mind to compare it with the remnant I had looked upon the day before, and when I came to look for it it was gone; (I had rebuked my man for carelessness in not puting it into a paper the day before) this being pretty early in the morning, I thought no shoplifter could have got it by any stratagem, and then my suspicion rested upon somebody in the house. I made an enquiry among the Gentlemen in the shop whether any of them had mislaid it, and they said no; then said I, this piece of cloth is absolutely stole, and I will be satisfied what is become of it; the middle apprentice said, Sir, don't be impatient about it, I may find it by and by: we went into the cellar to see if it was there, for my suspicion rested upon the Prisoner, and upon a thorough search we found it under some coolers, or brewing vessels. I took no notice that I had found it, but enquired after it in the family (for I was not fully satisfied that he was the thief though it was there) and in order to find it out I planted my apprentice at night in the dark to have an eye upon him, for if he came with a candle he could see what he did, and I desired a friend of mine to stay with me: the piece was rolled up when he took it, and when it was found it was tied up in a square form. The Prisoner went down into the cellar and moved it from the place where it was; my apprentice was coming up to tell me, and I believe his shoes might crack; says he, he has moved
Q. What were the words he said to you when he delivered the bundle to you?
Clavey. He said it was the first time that ever he had injured me or robbed me in his life.
Q. Are you sure he made use of the word rob?
Clavey. Yes, I can safely say he made use of the word rob.
- Jupe. On the 21st of December about six in the evening, I went to Mr. Clavey's (I had some business with him) and he desired me to go into the compting-house; he said he was about making a discovery of a robbery and desired me to stay; I heard him give directions to his servant to conceal himself and watch the Prisoner; some time afterwards the apprentice came and said, I saw him take it out from under the tubs or coolers, and I saw him take some clothes from under them; says he, I believe he is gone to some other part of the cellar , and has conveyed it away, and the reason he gave his master was, because he brought the candle to the lettice to see if he could see any body. Then Mr. Clavey sent his servant for a constable, and desired me to go down into the cellar with him; the Prisoner was in the cellar, and stood as if he was rolling up some soul linen. Mr. Clavey asked him what he was doing of; he said he was looking up his shirts or linen. Said he, I believe you are a rogue, what is become of the linen that was under the tubs or coolers, I can't tell whether he said tubs or coolers; the Prisoner said he knew nothing of it; said Mr. Clavey, we know you have removed it within these five minutes; a little while afterwards somebody knocked at the door, and Mr. Clavey said I will send you to Newgate as sure as you are alive if you don't give it me; upon that he went to a prickle or a basket of straw, and took it out in such a shape as it is now, and gave it to him; then he charged the Constable with him and ordered him to pull off his livery, and when he had done that, he cried and said he hoped his master would forgive him, for he had never wronged him before in his life.
Q. This time that you speak of, was this the time that Mr. Clavey mentions.
- Jupe. The very same time.
Ralph Hodgkins . I am an apprentice to Mr. Clavey, on the 21st of December in the morning, he looked into the Irish pile, and said there was a remnant of Irish gone, and asked me if I knew any thing of it; I told him no, but I would look in the shop and endeavour to find it, but I could not; by my master's orders I watched the Prisoner, and about 12 o'clock, or between 12 and one, I saw him put it between two coolers or under the coolers in the cellar; about five o'clock in the afternoon, I went down to look if it was there, and I found it had been removed, in the evening I went by Mr. Clavey's order to watch in the cellar, and in a little time the Prisoner came down with a box of knives to clean; after he had cleaned 3 or 4 of them he went to the coolers and lifted one of them up, and took out a piece of linen (it was half in the paper and half out) and carried it to another part of the cellar. - It was then in a long form, I think he tied it up in this square form; then he went up stairs and came down in about 3 or 4 minutes. I went afterwards and stood upon another pair of stairs that went into the shop, and he put the candle through the lettice of the stairs where I was, and I believe he saw me, but he did not say any thing to me nor I to him. I went to Mr. Clavey to let him know what I had seen, and he ordered me to go for a Constable, and when I came back he fell down on his knees and begged Mr. Clavey to forgive him, and said, it was the first thing that ever he did in his life.
Hodgkins. I cannot remember the words, but he desired Mr. Clavey to forgive him.
Prisoner. I would ask the Prosecutor whether I have not lived with him two or three years, and have been entrusted with money from one part of the town to another?
Clavey. It is true he has lived with me about two years, but I never entrusted him with money unless it was to go to market, and when the porter has been out of the way, I have sent him with a little parcel.
Prisoner. I would ask him whether he has not trusted me with his portmanteau and his money?
Clavey. That was when I was travelling the country and he went as my servant. Perhaps there might be 4 or 500 l. in the portmanteau, but then I was with him, and I don't apprehend that to be trusting him with the money.
John Greenly . I am a sadler , and the Prisoner is a sadler by trade, I have known him three years last July, he was my servant about 7 months, he behaved himself honestly and justly to me, I never suspected him of any wrong, and he had opportunities of wronging me if he would.
William Willoughby . I have known him between 3 and 4 years, Mr. Greenly did business for me, and the Prisoner used to carry goods backward and forward, I never knew him to be guilty of any such thing. Guilty .
Richard Peters . I keep a goldsmith's shop in Southwark, on the 3d of Dec. about 9 o'clock at night the Prisoner offered me this spoon to sell, I saw a crest upon it, which gave me some suspicion. I asked him how he came by it ? he gave me but a very light account, such as I could not depend upon . I told him I must stop it till I could get farther information, upon which he was a little rude to me, so I sent for a constable and had him before Justice Hammond , and he committed him to Bridewell for further examination . I advertised the spoon in the daily advertiser, and on Monday Mr. Drake came to my house. I shewed him the spoon, and he owned it to be his property.
Susannah Bell . The prisoner was accidentally at my master's house (Mr. Drak's) on the 3d of Dec. and went away between 8 and 9 at night - the spoon was in the kitchen, and he was in the kitchen; he confessed before Justice Hammond that he took it out of the kitchen.
Prisoner. I have drove Mr. Drake's coach, and Mrs. Bell said if I would call there at any time, I should have a bit of broken victuals; she gave me some broken victuals, which she put into my bag, and the spoon was among it. Guilty .
Charles Gataker . I am apprentice to Mr. Barton, the Prisoner came into my master's shop to buy a pound of sugar, about 9 o'clock at night, she brought a guinea to change, I gave her 20 s. but had not given her a groat, which was her due; there was some chocolate lay upon the counter, I looked to see if it was right, and I missed a pound, she was going away, and our young man brought her into the shop, and she dropped it down behind her.
Q. How do you know this to be your master's chocolate?
Gataker. It was marked with our mark; I believe she was a little in liquor when she did it; she lived a servant upon Ludgate-Hill. Guilty .
Sarah Searl . The 24th of Dec. about half an hour after ten in the morning, the Prisoner came into my husband's shop, without Aldgate, to cheapen some stockings; I saw her conceal a pair in her apron, she dropped them into it, and upon farther examination I found another pair in her apron.
George Wardly . On Christmas Eve about 12 in the day, I was sent for to Mr. Searl's, and she charged the Prisoner with tak ing a pair of stockings; I searched her and found a pair of stockings upon her, which she had secreted, she owned she took them both.
Prisoner. He robbed me of a piece of ribbon.
Wardley . I found a remnant of ribbon upon her, which by its being rolled up in this manner, it looked as if it was stole. Guilty .
John Chapman . The 21st of Dec. at night , a child came and told my master that a man had taken a pair of breeches out of Mr. Coleman's shop window, I saw him about a dozen doors off, walking along with the breeches under his arm; I was afraid to speak to him, so I got a neighbour to go with me; we followed him, and then I asked him how he came by them, he said he bought them; we followed him still , called him rogue and villain, and then he was stopped.
Prisoner . 'Tis the first fact that ever I did, I have three brothers, and live in credit and reputation.
Samuel Slater . I have known the Prisoner these 20 years , he had been in the service of my father many years; and had been an industrious fellow, and saved up a sum of money, and lent it to a pawnbroker to make great interest of it, and lost it, and he has been a drunken fellow ever since; I believe he has been an honest fellow for 20 years. Guilty .
125. Eleanor *Barrett wife of John Barrett, of St. James's Westminster , was indicted for stealing a pair of silver shoe buckles, value 10 s. a pair of silver knee buckles value 4 s. a silver stock buckle value 2 s. and a gold ring let with a crystal stone value 20 s. the goods of James Topless , Feb. 13 last.
* John Barrett, was tried in Feb. Sessions for the same Felony and acquitted. Trial 180, page 120. His wife was not then taken.
The Prosecutor not appearing, the Prisoner was acquitted .
The Court ordered his recognizance to be.
126. John Fuller , of St. Martins in the Fields , was indicted with Mary his wife , otherwise Bates, otherwise Ledbeater , for stealing a quilt val. 12 s. a copper saucepan value 3 s. a pewter dish value 3 s. a copper teakettle value 2 s. two brass nobs value 18 d. the goods of Isabella Goodier , in his lodging , Dec. 31 .
Isabella Goodier. I let a ready furnished lodging to the Prisoner and his wife. I lost the nobs off the grate, and the other things; the Prisoner's wife confessed that she pawned them: she was taken before a Justice, and it appearing there that the Prisoner took them away, the woman (who is his wife) was discharged.
127. Mary Fish , of St. Bennet Paul's Wharf , was indicted for stealing a sheet value 18 d. two plates value 12 d. a brass saucepan value 12 d. table cloth value 12 d. the goods of Sarah Verney , in her lodging , Oct. 20 .
Q. When did you miss them?
Verney . I missed them about nine or ten weeks ago; I went to her in Clerkenwel Bridewell, and she said she hoped I was not come to trouble her there: I told her, I only desired I might have my things . She said, she had given them to her sister (who is a good honest woman) to pawn them. I found some at Mr Granger's, and the saucepan at another place. I catched her in bed with my servant on Monday last, which frightened me very much.
Q. I hope it was a maid servant?
Verney . No; it was a man servant.
Sarah Daniel . The Prisoner married my own brother; she brought me this sheet and two plates to pawn about ten weeks ago, and I pawned them to Mr. Granger, the sheet for a shilling, and a groat a piece the two plates. Mrs. Verney came and told me my sister had brought me a sheet and two plates which she had stole; I went and fetched the sheet and throwed it into Mrs. Verney's House; I never was in such a concern in my life.
Verney. I was abroad, and the sheet was thrown into my shop; the plates I had last night from Mr. Granger.
Daniel . This is the sheet she brought to me, there was this mark upon it then, Mrs Verney owned it.
Prisoner. Did not you pawn a sheet for the use of your brother?
Daniel. No, indeed; my brother knows nothing of it; my brother is an honest man, he is at sea, I would scorn to say a false thing for my child's sake.
Prisoner. They were pawned for the use of my husband when he broke his arm, before he went to sea. Guilty . I return the old bawd thanks for her favour.
Petty Matthews , Dec. 19 .
Petty Matthews. The 19th of December, between 7 and 8 in the morning, I lost 24 yards of stuff; my lad was opening the shop, and carrying the things into the back warehouse, he called to me, and when I came down stairs, I saw the Prisoner at parly with him; she had then dropped the piece of goods at the door in the street.
Q. How do you know she dropped it?
Matthews. I saw her drop it; then I pulled her into the shop; she asked my pardon and said, it was the first fact that ever she did.
Q. Do you know any thing of her being brought back into the shop, or saying any thing to your master afterwards?
Ubly. She was brought into the shop, but I don't know what she said to my master.
Q. Which part was out of the shop?
King. That part which was unrolled; then I took hold of the Prisoner, and heard her say, she hoped my master would forgive her, for it was the first fact that ever she did, she said it two or three times at Guildhall afterwards.
Prisoner. I know no more of it than the child unborn. Guilty .
129. Ann Alexander , of St. John the Evangelist , was indicted for stealing a pair of sheets, value 2 s. and a brass porridge pot, value 1 s. the goods of William Smith , in her lodging , December 1st .
Ann Smith . The beginning of November the Prisoner came to lodge in my house, I lost these things which she had the use of, she went away on a Sunday morning about 5 or 6 weeks ago, she took these goods and the key of the lodging along with her; she sent the key back in a penny post letter, and said she would come and make all things easy, but she did not come.
Q. How long was it after she went away that she sent the key?
Smith. About a week.
Q. How do you know but somebody else had been in the room?
Smith. The door was locked when I received the key, and when I went in I missed the things. - I never spoke to her till last Thursday was sev'nnight, and then she owned she had pawned them.
Q. Were these things let to her as part of the furniture of her lodging?
Prisoner. The pot never was in the room, and she said as I was out of business and was put to some difficulties, that if I could lie without sheets I might make use of them till I could get into business.
Smith. The pot was in the room when I let it her, I never gave her leave to pawn them. I could have lent her five shillings or a guinea if I had thought proper, without lending her things to pawn. Guilty .
130. Ann Rowe , of St. Ann's Westminster , was indicted for stealing a holland sheet, value 2 s. 6 d. a linen sheet, value 1 s. 6 d. three cotton aprons, value 3 s. a dimitty waistcoat, value 1 s. 6 d. and an apron , the goods of Benjamin Pennever , Dec. 26 .
Q. Did you deliver them to her to wash?
Pennever. I cannot tell whether I did or no, or whether she took them herself, she has owned the pawning them by her own confession in writing.
I the informant Ann Rowe do confess, that one sheet is pawned for 2 s. 6 d. one is sold for 18 d. to Mrs. Jacomb in Marshall-street , the coloured apron lies in Milk-alley in Tyburn-Road for 9 d. the waistcoat in Wardour-street for 16 d. the white apron in Milk-alley for 1 s. 6 d. more than this I know not of, as I expect your mercy.
There were two persons proved she brought the things to their shop and pawned them. Guilty .
John Buck . On Tuesday the 27th of December, about seven o'clock in the evening, there came one to our house to know whether Mrs. Wild lodged in our house, and if I said she lodged in my house, he was to desire my wife or I to come directly to him. He shewed me some clogs that he had bought, he asked me if they were mine, I told him yes. I asked Mr. Pardue whether he had any more, and this young man Matthews went up and brought down what he could find, which was five or six pair more - The Prisoner was afterwards stopped.
Q. Who stopped her?
Buck. Mr. Pardue the pawnbroker stopped her;
William Matthews . I am servant to Mr. Pardue, the Prisoner brought these clogs to my master's shop, my master asked her several questions, and among the rest he asked her where she lived; she said she lived in the country, and that she brought these clogs to town with her to sell. She brought two or three pair one day, and another pair at night, and the next day more, and my master thought by her bringing so many, that she did not come honestly by them, and I went after her to the place where she said she lived, so we came to find it out.
Q. Did the Prisoner live in your house?
Buck. She did lodge in my house, and her husband may be there at this time for what I know. Guilty .
132, 133. Elizabeth Foresee , of St. Mary Whitechapel , was indicted for stealing one pewter quart pot, value 18 d. seven pint pots, value 7 s. and four half pint pots, value 2 s. the goods of Robert Ellis , January 11th . And
Ebenezer Dole . On Wednesday morning last my house was broke open, and robbed of goods to a considerable value. I suspected some houses of ill repute that lie on the backside of my workshop, and I got a search warrant to try if I could find any of my goods: I searched the house of Mrs. Beane who is a person of a very ill character, and when I came to search her room there was a sack which was tied up at the mouth. I untied it, and in it there were several pewter pots wrapped up in rags, I suppose to prevent them from rattling; there was a chest of drawers which had pewter pots in each of the drawers, there were a dozen pots in all, there was one in a child's cradle under the things. I asked her how she came by them, and told her she did not come honestly by them, for I saw by the inscription whose property they were; then I sent to the last Witness, and he came and owned them. Mary Beane said, she had them of the other Prisoner Forese, and she said she would send for her, and she said she was sure she would come; and when she came, I asked her how she came by them, and she owned that she did take the pots at several times from Mr. Ellis's, and that she did carry them to Mrs. Beane's, who was to go halves with her.
William Sydenham . I was applied to by Mr. Dole to search the house of Mary Beane , and found in some bags 7 or 8 pewter pots, and searching the drawers, I took out some more, and in the cradle I found a pint pot, which, in all, made 13.
Q. What did Beane say, when you asked her about them?
Sydenham. She said she could not tell how they came there; when Mrs. Beane sent for Foresee , she willingly came, and she owned that she took them away from Mr. Ellis's .
John Fernley . I was sent for to come to Mrs. Beane's; when she was asked how she came by those pots, she said they were brought to her, and that she would send for the Person who brought them, and when Foresee came she owned that she did bring them one at a time, and that Beane was to go halves in them.
Q. Did Beane deny that?
Fernley. Yes, she did deny it.
- Bates. I have known her upwards of 3 years, I never heard any body say but that she was an honest woman.
Beane. Foresee brought them to me, and desired they might be left there till she fetched them away; she said she had a friend in trouble, and hoped that I would not be against her bringing some odd things there.
Beane. I had been in the house but a week before it was searched, the house had an ill name before. Both Guilty .
Thomas Lamb . I missed the handkerchief in Nov. and the shirt the week after Christmas, I suspected the prisoner, because we found him out in taking some little pieces of copper which were my master's property, and so I charged him with these things, and he said he had pawned the handkerchief to one Badcock, in Golden Lane, for six-pence, when I went to Mrs. Badcock she said he brought a shirt to pawn, and she would not take it in, and he carried it to one Barnes, another pawnbroker, in Golden-Lane; and pawned it for 2 s. Barnes delivered the shirt to the constable - the prisoner was an errand-boy to my master - he is about 12 or 13 years of age, as he says. I do not know any otherwise.
Anthony Barnes . I believe I did take in the shirt, but I cannot remember the Prisoner's bringing it; I took it in the 29th of Dec.
Mr. Badcock. I delivered a handkerchief to Mr. Lamb, I do not know that the boy brought it, though I knew him by living in the neighbourhood, but he owned he brought it to me.
William Eves . I had a search warrant brought by Mr. Crawley , another constable of the same mannour; says I, it is in a very good hand; he said it was out of his liberty; he said, could not you give it to one of your head-boroughs? I sent it to one of the head-boroughs and he desired me to serve it; and I did go, and as soon as I showed Mr. Barnes the warrant he fetched the shirt down himself.
Q. to the Prisoner. What age are you?
Prisoner. I am 13 next October. Guilty .
135. Margaret Ellmore , of St. Martin's in the Fields , was indicted for stealing a scarlet cloth waistcoat, the goods of Francis Forrester , and a bear-skin frock , the goods of Charles Carstairs , Esq ; Jan. 12th .
Susannah Forrester . My husband is a taylor , the coat was lost off the back of a chair in the parlour, I missed the coat, and went out and saw the prisoner with a bundle in her apron; she had a hole in her apron and I saw the coat; she went down into a cellar in Drury-Lane, and then brought it up upon her arm; I asked her the price of it, she said 10 s. she said the gentleman had taken off the silver buttons; I took it from her, and sent for a constable, and then she owned the having the waistcoat; I understand she deals in old cloaths.
Anne Langhorn . The Prisoner brought this coat to my brother's shop, the corner of the Coal-yard; I asked her whether it was hers? she said it was her landlord's, and that her landlady had lent it her because (she had no money,) to pledge for stock.
Prisoner. A woman gave them me to pawn, and was to give me six-pence for pawning them; and as soon as she saw the gentlewoman challenge the coat she run away, and has kept out of the way ever since - her name is Mary Shovell . Guilty .
136. Margaret Saunders , of St. Giles's in the Fields , was indicted for stealing 2 sheets, value 4 s. a brass porridge pot, value 18 d. and a table cloth, value 3 d. the goods of Hannah Harding , in her lodging . Nov. 10th.
Hannah Harding . The Prisoner took a room of me about 8 months ago, at 18 d. per week, and I left these things; I was loth to give her any trouble, because she was a neighbour's child; but I got a search warrant; the porridge pot was found at Mr. Trigger's, and one sheet at Mr. Ekins's , and the other at John Briggs 's.
Prisoner. I use the markets, and I desired she would lend me 2 s. and she gave me leave to pawn these things.
Harding. Indeed I did not, for she asked me to lend her an apron to pawn once, and I refused it because I had lost so much by being friends to other people. They were most turbulent people; and yet after she had pawned one sheet I lent them another to put upon the bed.
John Lewis . I was in the prisoner's room when Mrs. Harding came up and asked for her things, and she actually said she did give her leave to pawn them; and she said this before her husband, and he said why did not you let me know this before, that I might have taken them out of pawn while I was in work? and you said you did not care to tell your husband for fear he should beat you.
Two persons of credit appeared and gave the prisoner a good character. Acquitted .
Williams bought some iron of the prisoner, and Catlin found some of his iron there, but there being no proof that the prosecutor's iron was brought there by the prisoner, he was acquitted .
Moses Moravia , late of Gravel-Lane, Houndsditch , London, merchant , was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury in his deposition made before the Commissioners named in a Commission of Bankruptcy, under the Great Seal of Great-Britain, awarded against William Bedell , bearing date the 24th of January, 1742, part of which deposition, taken the 29th of January, 1742 , with their several assignments of the perjury is as follows:
I. The indictment sets forth, that Moses Moravia in his said deposition says, that the said Bedell made and delivered to this deponent a bill of parcels of nine tons of hemp, at the rate of 24 l. per Ton, amounting to 216 l.
1st Assignment. Whereas in truth and in fact, the said William Bedell , did not at any time whatsoever, make or deliver to the said Moses Moravia any bill of parcels of nine tons of hemp at the rate of 24 l. per ton, or any other bill of parcels of or for any other quantity of hemp whatsoever, or at any other rate than the bill of parcels of Mr. Owen, in the deposition named.
II. The indictment sets forth that the said Moses Moravia , in the said deposition, says, that when the deponent came to his house at Houndsditch, late that night, this deponent there found the said Bedell waiting this deponent's coming home.
2d Assignment. Whereas in truth and in fact the said William Bedell was not late at night, or at any time of the day or night of the day on which the said Moses Moravia and the said William Bedell met at Peele's Coffee-House, or at any other time whatsoever, at the house of the said Moses Moravia , in Houndsditch, or at any other house of the said Moses Moravia .
III. The indictment sets forth that the said Moses Moravia , in the said deposition, says, the said Bedell then desired this deponent to lend him some money upon the rhubarb which this deponent had that evening given him a note to deliver.
3d Assignment. Whereas in truth and in fact, the said William Bedell did not at the time mentioned in the said deposition, or at any other time whatsoever, desire the said Moses Moravia to lend him some or any money whatsoever upon the rhubarb, in the deposition of the said Moses Moravia mentioned.
IV. The indictment sets forth that the said Moses Moravia , in the said deposition, says, it did not suit this deponent to lend the said Bedell money, but instead thereof, this deponent made, signed and delivered to the said Bedell another note, whereby this deponent promised to pay to the said Bedell the sum of 100 l. or 105 l. but which this deponent cannot remember.
4th Assignment. Whereas in truth and in fact, the said Moses Moravia , did not at the time in the said deposition mentioned, or at any other time, at the said Moravia's house, or at any other time or place, subsequent to the meeting of them, the said Moses Moravia and William Bedell , at Peele's Coffee-house, and before the said 29th of January, make, sign, or deliver to the said William Bedell , any note or memorandum, whereby the said Moses Moravia promised to pay to the said William Bedell the sum of 100 l. - or 105 l. - or any other note, or writing, for payment of any sum or sums of money.
V. The indictment sets forth, that the said Moses Moravia , in the said deposition, says, that the said Bedell made, signed, and delivered to this deponent, a note, or memorandum, now in this deponent's custody, whereby the said Bedell acknowledged to have borrowed of this deponent such promissory note upon the security of the said rhubarb.
5th Assignment. Whereas in truth and in fact, the said William Bedell did not at the time mentioned in the said deposition, or at any other time, at the said Moravia's house, or at any other time, or place, before the said 29th of January, make, sign, or deliver to the said Moses Moravia , any note, memorandum, or writing, whereby the said William Bedell acknowledged to have borrowed of the said Moses Moravia the promissory note in the deposition of the said Moses Moravia , mentioned, or any other promissory note, upon any account whatever, upon security of, or any wife relating to the rhubarb, in the said deposition mentioned.
VI. The indictment sets forth, that the said Moses Moravia , in the said deposition, says, that since that time, he has taken up one of the said notes, with the said Bedell's receipt thereon, but what this deponent hath done therewith, this deponent doth not know; says, that for the said note he paid the said Bedell some cash, but how much, this deponent doth not know.
6th Assignment. Whereas in truth and in fact, the said Moses Moravia did not at any time whatever, pay to the said William Bedell , any cash, or money whatsoever, for or in regard of either of the notes in the said deposition mentioned.
VII. The indictment farther sets forth, that the said Moses Moravia , in the said deposition, says, he agreed to deliver to the said Bedell the remainder of what a chest of rhubarb contained, being about
7th Assignment. Whereas in truth and in fact, the said Moses Moravia did not at the time in the said deposition mentioned, or at any other time, promise or agree to deliver to the said William Bedell , the remainder of what a chest of rhubarb contained, which in the said deposition is mentioned to be about 30 lb. weight, above the 100 lb. weight in the said deposition mentioned.
The Commission of Bankruptcy against William Bedell , and the depositions under the said commission, were duly proved, and the said Moravia's deposition was read, but William Bedell not having obtained his certificate, a general release from the said Bedell to the commissioners, and the assignees was produced and proved; then Bedell having no interest in the estate under the commission, was admitted to give evidence.
Council for the Prosecutor. Mr. Bedell, did you ever buy any hemp of Mr. Salem Owen?
William Bedell . About the 6th of December, 1742, I bought about 12 tons of hemp of him - to the best of my knowledge it might be to the value of about 330 l. - there was an attachment in the Mayor's Court, about the 10th or 11th of Dec.
Q. Did any body offer themselves to be bail?
Q. Was he willing and ready to be bail?
Bedell. He was very willing; at the instigation of Mr. Satchel, Mr. Moravia went to be bail - about the 17th or 18th of Dec. and was rejected.
Q. Could you get any other bail?
Bedell. I could not.
Q. When did Mr. Moravia apply to you to buy this parcel of hemp?
Bedell. I think it was the afternoon before Christmas-day, he said he would give me 200 l. for the hemp, and laid down a moidore, but we did not make any agreement then; we met again the 3 d of January at Peele's Coffee-house in Fleet-street, I did not go to meet Mr. Moravia, I went to meet Mr. Robinson, but Mr. Moravia and I finished the agreement then.
Bedell. I believe he is.
Q. What did you sell the hemp for?
Bedell. I sold it to the best of my knowledge for a note of 105 l. - payable in 8 days, and a note for 100 lb. weight of India rhubarb, to be delivered upon demand - the major part of the hemp lay at Warner's warehouses in Mincing-lane, they are kept by one Clark, the rest lay at the White-horse in Purpool-lane; that part I sold him lay at Warner's warehouses.
Q. What bill of parcels did you produce at that time?
Bedell. To the best of my knowledge I delivered a bill of parcels given me by Mr. Owen with his receipt at the bottom of it, we had been drinking of rack punch pretty plentifully, that I cannot very well tell.
Q. Did you deliver Mr. Moravia any bill of parcels?
Bedell. Yes, I delivered a bill of parcels of Mr. Owen's.
Q. Was it possible for you to make a bill of parcels then?
Bedell. It was not possible for me to make a bill of parcels then, because I could not tell the weight of the hemp. - We went away about 11 o'clock.
Q. Where did you go then?
Bedell. I went directly home to Grays-Inn-Lane. - I staid there the whole night.
Q. Did you go to Houndsditch that night?
Bedell. To the best of my knowledge I have not been in Hounsditch these three years.
Q. Did you see Mr. Moravia that night after you parted at Peele's Coffee-house?
Bedell. I saw him no more that night.
Q. How long was it before you saw him again?
Bedell. The note was made payable in 8 Days, I saw him before the 8 days were out in order to remind him of it, as I wanted money. - I never had a farthing of him, for he said he could not well pay me till he got the hemp.
Q. Did you ever borrow any notes of him?
Bedell. I never borrowed one note of him.
Q. When was you arrested?
Bedell. I was arrested the 18th of January.
Q. What day was you carried to the Fleet?
Bedell. I believe it was about the 22d.
Q. What was the first time Mr. Moravia came to you?
Bedell. The 22d was on a Saturday, and then I went to the Fleet, and he came to me the Sunday following - I think it was the 22d of January, I cannot be positive to a day.
Q. When had you notice of the commission being taken out?
Bedell. I think the commission was sealed the 24th, and I had notice of it the 27th.
Bedell. I believe it was on Friday the 28th, he might come after my goods, and the notes and every thing I had was seized on.
Q. Where were the two notes then, the note of 105 l. and the note to deliver the 100 lb. weight of rhubarb?
Bedell. I think they were at my lodging in Gray's-Inn-Lane.
Q. What was the occasion of Moravia's waiting on you then?
Bedell. He said he understood there was a commission out against me, and that all my effects were seized; he said, be of good heart, and I will take your part, for I believe the commission will not stand, and if you will take my advice, I will allow you 2 guineas a week, and put a 1000 guineas in your pocket - he said, he thought it was not a good commission.
Q. How much money did he say he would put in your pocket?
Bedell. I cannot tell justly, it was a large sum, I am sure it was 500 l. and he laid down a great deal of gold upon the table; Mr. Ravenscroft, Mr. Robinson's clerk came, and we went into Mr. Helbutt's room, and he took some instructions for an answer in Chancery, but very short; he went away, and came again about four o'clock; Moravia said, he had a summons left him to attend the Commissioners at the Crown-Tavern on Ludgate-Hill, but he could not tell what they wanted with him; there was one Mrs. Burrell a relation of Mr. Helbutt's there, and he desired her to go out of the room; and he wanted me to enter into an agreement with him, and desired me to write down (I think it was) January 3, 1742. Borrowed and received of Mr. Moses Moravia , a note of hand for 105 l. - payable 8 (or it might be 12) days after date, which I promise to return in 8 (or 12) days from the date hereof, and as a collateral security, I promise to leave 100 lb. weight of rhubarb in his hands, till the note is delivered up again. Witness my hand, William Bedell ; but I cannot justly say the words: I took a sheet of paper and wrote to this effect, and delivered it to Mr. Moravia.
Q. What did he say when he desired you to do this? Did he give you any reason for it?
Bedell. He said as he was to serve me he expected me to serve him.
Q. What did he mean by that?
Bedell. I cannot tell what he meant by it.
Q. How came you to do that?
Bedell. I was like a bird in a cage, and wanted to get my liberty - he would not suffer any body to be by then, he said he was going to the Commissioners; on Sunday morning he came again and said, he had been 7 or 8 hours before the Commissioners, that they had harassed him very much, and that he was obliged to sign the deposition.
Q. Did he tell you what the contents of that deposition were?
Bedell. He said, if I did not keep up to the contents of that deposition, he and his family would be ruined; and if I did it would be a great deal in my way.
Q. Did he tell you what that deposition was?
Bedell. Yes he did; and I put it into writing, for fear I should forget it.
Q. Whose room were you in then?
Bedell. In Sir John Witteronge 's room; he desired Mr. Ravenscroft to withdraw then, and Sir John Witteronge withdrew as he was a gentleman. Then he repeated it again, that if I did not keep up to his deposition he was undone. [The paper produced.] This is my own hand-writing, I wrote it the 30th of January, 1742, in order to remind me of what Mr. Moravia had sworn; and he made me give him a note of hand for 100 l. payable 8 days after date. [Bedell reads.] Monday the 3d of January, 1742, the contract was made at Peele's Coffee-house about seven o'clock, and about ten or eleven I was at Moses Moravia 's house in Gravel-lane, over-against the workhouse, Houndsditch; and I desired him to lend me 50 or 60 l. on the rhubarb. Mr. Moravia answered me, he could not spare the cash, because he wanted to pay away himself; but he offered to lend me his note on the rhubarb; accordingly he did for 100 l. for which I gave him my counter note, and left the rhubarb in his hands for security till I returned the note. And that the rhubarb was in the back yard.
Q. Did he produce any note then?
Bedell. He produced I think a note of his hand of 100 l. payable from him to me, I believe it was dated the 3d of January last - it was to pay to me 100 l. or 105 l. - and he made me give him a receipt for 50 l. in cash, and 50 lb. weight of rhubarb, dated the 6th of January, to balance that note, and I did not receive a farthing, he gave me then a note to deliver 50 lb. weight of rhubarb on demand, dated the 6th of January, though it was the 30th.
Jan. 6. 1742.
Bedell. I did every thing he desired me to do, because he was to give me two guineas a week
Q. What did he say to induce you to do this?
Bedell. He said he would sacrifice his wife and family for me, if I would keep up to the text, and if I did not we should both be ruined.
Council for the Prisoner on the cross examination. You omitted something, you said you gave Moravia no other bill of parcels than what you had of Mr. Owen.
Bedell. I think so.
Bedell. Yes - I believe he was several times with Mr. Moravia and me - I can't tell what he said.
The Prisoner's Council produced some papers which they said were a bill of parcels, and orders to the warehouse-keepers to deliver the hemp.
Q. Were you in liquor then?
Bedell. I was to be sure intoxicated then.
Q. How long had you been in company?
Bedell. I came into company about 7 o'clock, and parted about 11.
Q. Were these things signed the 1st part of the evening or the latter?
Bedell I believe they were signed about the middle of the time that we were in company - after we had been there about two hours.
Q. What was Mr. Robinson then, was not he your attorney?
Bedell. He had been my attorney: I believe he was every body's attorney.
Q. You have taken upon you to say that you never was at Mr. Moravia's, is that true?
Bedell. I was not there during my whole life.
There being no evidence offered on the behalf of the prosecution but Bedell's the bankrupt; Sir John Witterange and Isaac Helbutt , who had made depositions before the Commissioners in the commission against Bedell, were proved dead since the commencement of the prosecution; and the copies of their depositions enrolled in Chancery, and examined, were offered as evidence, but were not (after long debate) admitted by the Court to be read as evidence; so that there was only Bedell's oath against Moravia's, which by the opinion of the Court was not sufficient in law to convict him of perjury, and he was thereupon acquitted .
139. Giles Brown , was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury, upon an affidavit made in the Court of King's-Bench , but the Prosecutor not producing a copy of the writ which was founded on the said affidavit, the Jury were directed to acquit the Prisoner.
The Trials being ended, the Court proceeded to give Judgment as follows.
Received Sentence of Death, 3.
Transportation for 14 Years, 1.
Transported for 7 Years, 24.
Eliz. Foresee 132
Patrick Gaffney, 100
Eliz. Parsons 113