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<p>OCTOBER, 1912.</p>
<p>Vol. CLVII.] [Part 937</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-1" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WALPOLE</persName> & CO.,</p>
<p>Shorthand Writers to the Court.</p>
<p>EDITED BY</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-2" type="given" value="DELACOMBE"/>DELACOMBE ROOME</persName>, ESQUIRE,</p>
<p>[Published by Animal Subscription.]</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-3" type="given" value="GEO"/>GEO. WALPOLE</persName> & CO., PORTUGAL STREET BUILDINGS, LINCOLN'S INN, W.C.</p>
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<p>On the King's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Tuesday, October 8th, 1912, and following days.</p>
<p>Before the Right Hon. Sir
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS BOOR CROSBY, M.D., LORD MAYOR</hi> of the said City of London; the Hon. Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS GARDNER HORRIDGE</hi>, one of the Justices of His Majesty's High Court; Sir
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-4" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER WILKIN</persName> </hi>, K.C.M.G.; Sir
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-5" type="given" value="MARCUS"/>MARCUS SAMUEL</persName> </hi>, Bart.; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">WM. PURDIE TRELOAR</hi>, Bart.; Sir
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-6" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID BURNETT</persName> </hi>, Knight; Sir
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-7" type="given" value="WM"/>WM. DUNN</persName> </hi>, Knight; and
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-8" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ROLL</persName> </hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">FORREST FULTON</hi>, Knight, K.C., Recorder of the said City; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">FK. ALBERT BOSANQUET</hi>, K.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; and His Honour Judge
<hi rend="smallCaps">RINTOUL</hi>, K.C., Commissioner; His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-9" type="given" value="EDWARD ERNEST"/>EDWARD ERNEST COOPER</persName> </hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-10" type="given" value="ALFRED LOUIS"/>ALFRED LOUIS BOWER</persName> </hi>, Esq.,</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-11" type="given" value="JOSEPH DAVID"/>JOSEPH DAVID LANGTON</persName> </hi>, Esq.,</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">E.V. HUXTABLE</hi> Esq.,</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CROSBY, MAYOR. THIRTEENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>.</p>
<p>(Tuesday, October 8.)</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAMS</hi>, Charles (33, engineer)</persName>, who pleaded guilty last Session of bigamy (see p. 523), was brought up for sentence.</p>
<p>Sentence: One month's imprisonment, second division.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CLACK</hi>, Cecil Douglas (30, traveller)</persName>, who was convicted of larceny (see pages 530-532), were brought up for judgment.</p>
<p>Sentences: Scott and Barnett (each), Nine months' hard labour; Clack, Eight months' hard labour.</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to a previous conviction for a similar offence at Bow Street Police Court on November 27, 1911, when she was sen
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<p>Prisoner confessed to a conviction of felony at this Court on Septem
<lb/>ber 8, 1908, when he was sentenced to three years' penal servitude. He had since then been sentenced to six months' hard labour for failing to report; he was released about March; he had refused to give the name of anybody who had employed him since that time. A num
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-9-offence-1 t19121008-name-28"/>Adrian Cornelius Albert Brenkelmann</persName> and another, his masters; stealing a cheque for £25, the property of Adrian Cornelius Albert Brenkelmann and another, his masters; unlawfully falsifying and making false entries in certain books and accounts, the property of Adrian Cornelius Albert Brenkelmann and another, his, masters.</rs> </p>
<p>Prisoner, a Dutchman, who had occupied a position of trust with his employers, a firm of stockbrokers, had since 1907 by falsification of accounts been guilty of defalcations amounting in all to £1,725. The prosecutors did not wish to press the charge.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-11-offence-1 t19121008-name-32"/>Postmaster-General</persName>, he being an officer of the Post Office</rs>. Mr. Forster Roulton prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-34" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN VIOLET</persName> </hi>, assistant superintendent, E.C. District Office, G.P.O. At 72 p.m. on September 17 I saw the last witness post the test packet. I collected it specially and sent it under cover at 3.10 p.m. to the officer in charge at the Hendon Post Office.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. I also saw another test packet posted to 23, Gainsborough Gardens. I cannot say whether it ever came into your possession.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-35" type="given" value="ARTHUR HENRY"/>ARTHUR HENRY RICHARDSON</persName> </hi>, head postman, Hendon Post Office. At 4.23 p.m. a letter enclosing the last packet reached me at Hendon. I kept it till 6.45 the following morning and placed it for prisoner to deal with. He is an auxiliary postman, and comes on at 6.15 a.m. I saw him take it out of the office. I cannot say if there was another letter addressed to that address. In the course of the day Holmes handed me this handkerchief, and Blake handed me a latchkey.</p>
<p>To prisoner. I saw you also receive another packet addressed to 23, Gainsborough Gardens at the same time.</p>
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<p>To prisoner. When I produced the half-crowns I did not write the dates down on a piece of paper and then say, "They are the same dates as on the piece of paper." What I was writing down was a list of the articles found upon you.</p>
<p>(Wednesday, October 9.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-36" type="given" value="EDWARD JOSEPH"/>EDWARD JOSEPH STRATFORD</persName> </hi>, recalled. I produce the punch with which I marked the coins. Each official of the Post Office has a different punch, which never goes out of his possession.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-37" type="given" value="THOMAS ROBERT"/>THOMAS ROBERT HOLMES</persName> </hi>, head postman, Hendon Sorting Office. On September 18, in consequence of a communication made to me by Mr. Richardson, the head postman, I went to 1, Hollis Villas, Alex
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<p>To prisoner. She told me she found it behind a basket in the kitchen.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-38" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE JONES</persName> </hi>, 1, Hollis Villas, Alexander Road, Hendon, aunt of the prisoner. Prisoner has lodged with me for two years. On September 18 he came home at about 9.0 a.m. after his morning delivery, had his breakfast in the kitchen, went out to the back, went up to his room, and went out again between ten and eleven. Holmes then called on me, and I (handed him silk handkerchief (produced), which I found behind a clothes basket in the kitchen as I was tidying up. I have never seen the two half-crowns (produced) and did not give them to prisoner.</p>
<p>To prisoner. I cannot remember borrowing 5s. from you and paving you back with those two half-crowns.</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the magistrate. "I wish to say I am not guilty of the charge."</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-39" type="given" value="CHARLES JAMES"/>CHARLES JAMES DABINET</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I never saw the test packet. I had had that silk handkerchief in my possession for four years. I had the half-crowns in my possession on the Sunday before the Wednesday when I was arrested. I do not know where I got them from.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. I might have received the two half-crowns when I was paid my wages on Friday—more likely than not. (Q.—When you were seen by Mr. Stratford on the Wednesday and these coins were produced from your pocket, why did you tell Mr. Stratford that you had got them from Mrs. Jones? A.—Well, I shall not answer your question.) My aunt says she does not remember giving me the two half-crowns; I say she is very forgetful. The silk handkerchief is new, but I have had it in my possession four years.</p>
<p>A Juror. Being in the drapery trade, I know something of silk handkerchiefs. I should say that this is quite a new handkerchief, and has never been washed.</p>
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<p>It was stated that a hundred complaints had been received during five weeks before prisoner's arrest relating to losses on his walk. Those losses had ceased since his arrest. Eight or nine postal packets which had been tampered with were found in the possession of prisoner on his arrest.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-41" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>Albert Dennis</persName> of housebreaking, and was bound over to report himself this Sessions, attended.</p>
<p>Prisoner's mother stated that he had been working since his release.</p>
<p>Sentence: One day's imprisonment.</p>
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<p>Mr. Beaumont Morice prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-44" type="given" value="PATRICK"/>PATRICK TUTTE</persName> </hi>, barman, "Viaduct Tavern," Newgate Street. On September 25, between four and 4.30 p.m., Murphy called for some port wine, tendering counterfeit half-crown (produced) in payment. I gave him 2s. 4d. change, and put the half-crown on the change rack. In consequence of a communication made to me by the manageress I handed that half-crown to Detective Haywood, who was in the next bar.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN HUBBARD</hi>, 361 B. On September 25, about 4.30 p.m., I was on duty at the door of Snow Hill Police Station when Murphy was brought in, followed by Hopkins. After Murphy had come in, and as Hopkins was coming in, I saw Detective Haywood pick something up from the mat. There was nothing there before Murphy came in.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-45" type="given" value="MARY JANE"/>MARY JANE FARNDELL</persName> </hi>, housekeeper, Snow Hill Police Station. On September 25, at about 5.15 p.m., I searched Hopkins. In her jacket pocket I found a shilling and seven pennies, two separate shillings in her purse, and in her skirt pocket a shilling and six pennies.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-46" type="given" value="SIDNEY WILLIAM"/>SIDNEY WILLIAM SMITH</persName> </hi>, Assistant Assayer, H.M. Mint. The two half-crowns produced are counterfeit, are made from the same mould, and are both dated 1896.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-47" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL MURPHY</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). On the day in question I met Hopkins in Liverpool Street. She told me she was going to buy some flowers at Covent Garden. I told her I would go for a walk with her, and she said "Yes." As we were going through London Wall I met my brother with his barrow. He and Hopkins went into the "Weavers Arms" to have a drink while I stayed outside to mind the harrow. When they came out Hopkins and I, leaving my brother, went through Fore Street. I said to Hopkins, "You have had a drink, I think I will go in and have one now." T then went into the "Somerset" public-house and had a drink while she stayed outside. We then went on to Newgate Street, and at the "Newgate Tavern" I asked her if she would come in and have a drink. She said no, she did not want any, and I went in by myself. I changed the half-crown to Patrick Tuite. Hopkins did not know I had anything on me. When I came out we began walking on together, and I handed her 2s. to buy some stock at Covent Garden. There is a little house in Bow Street which is well known for its Irish. I said, "When you get there you pay for two lots of Irish," and I gave her 4d. As we were crossing over Hol
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<p>Cross-examined. I have known Hopkins for years. There is so much against me that it is practically useless for me to get out of this, but in the "Viaduct Tavern" there were three half-crowns on the till, and Tuite swept them off together in his hand, so that I do not see how he could tell which one I had tendered. At the police station I admitted I changed the coin because it was no use saying anything eke. When I handed Hopkins the 2s. and the 4d. I did not know she had 1s. and seven pennies in her jacket pocket and 2s. In her purse. I knew she had some money, as she was going to Covent Garden. (To the Judge.) When I met Hopkins I had two counterfeit half-crowns, on me. One I changed at the "Viaduct Tavern," and one I dropped on the mat at the police station. It is no good my telling you where I got them, because if I was to tell you I picked them up you would not believe me; you would tell me it was trash.</p>
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<p>Sentences. Murphy,
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<lb/>ing the same to his own use and benefit.</rs> </p>
<p>Two summary convictionsi for dishonesty, with sentences of twenty-one days, and 20s. or fourteen days, were proved. Prisoner was stated to be a go-between of buyers and sellers of horses. Prosecutor gave him ten guineas to buy a horse; he made arrangements to do so, but got drunk, and spent the money. He was given a good character by his employers. He had been in prison since September 23.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-15-offence-1 t19121008-name-50"/>Harry Manfield</persName> and another, with intent to steal therein; being found by night, and having in his possession, without lawful excuse, certain implements of housebreaking.</rs> </p>
<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted at Lincoln Assizes on October 26, 1911, of burglary, receiving twelve months' hard labour. Numerous convictions for felony were proved, including five years penal servitude for housebreaking and 11 summary convictions for drunkenness and vagrancy. He was released from prison on August 26 last.</p>
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<p>(Wednesday, October 9.)</p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-16-offence-2 t19121008-name-53"/>Cecil Munton Botibol</persName> and stealing therein 144 ostrich feathers and other articles, his goods</rs>.</p>
<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted at Clerkenwell Sessions on December 5, 1899, receiving nine months' hard labour for ware-house breaking; six other convictions were proved for stealing, fre
<lb/>quenting, etc.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HOLMYARD</hi>, William (55, furniture dealer)</persName>, who at the September Sessions (see page 523) pleaded guilty of perjury, was brought up for judgment.</p>
<p>Sentence: Two days' imprisonment.</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted at Chester on May 3, 1911, receiving three and two months' hard labour, consecutive, for stealing money, after other summary convictions.</p>
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<p>Mr. Ashby prosecuted; Mr. Purcell defended.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-57" type="given" value="HARRY SCOTT"/>HARRY SCOTT FREEMAN</persName> </hi>, solicitor, clerk to the Feltham justices. On September 9 prisoner appeared and was represented by Mr. Williams, a solicitor, before the Feltham justices to answer a summons (pro
<lb/>duced) issued on information laid by Susan Barker, who gave evidence before the justices in the presence of the prisoner alleging that he was the father of her male child born on (March 26, 1912, and that prisoner had given her money from time to time, in support of which she pro
<lb/>duced two letters which she stated she had received from prisoner. She said prisoner was her landlord and produced rent-book written by him. Prisoner on oath said, "I swear that the letter 'a' was not in my writing nor the letter 'b'; I did not write the address on the envelopes. The rent-book is in my writing. I cannot say that I see any similarity between my writing and the letters." At the request of the justices he wrote on sheet of paper (produced) "Mrs. Barker, Erith, Chestnut Road, Ashford," both in pencil and in ink. Ethel Matilds Charlotte Lobb was sworn she stated that prisoner was her landlord and produced her rent-book written by prisoner and staged that</p>
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<p>prisoner had given her money to give to Mrs. Barker. Prisoner denied giving either of them any money. Prisoner was adjudged to be the father of the child and was ordered to pay 5s. a week; there was no appeal.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Mrs. Lobb said, "After the first child was born, when the second child was on the way, I met the defendant and he gave me £1 and asked me how Maud was. He said, 'Give her that, and I will see what I can do next week.' Defendant confessed to me the children were his." Mrs. Lobb swore that she lived next door to Mrs. Barker and had seen prisoner frequently come in and out of Mrs. Barker's house. Prisoner elected to go into the witness-box. Mrs. Barker swore she was a married woman; there was no independent evidence proving non-access of her husband.</p>
<p>The Recorder. Would that be material to this case?</p>
<p>Mr. Purcell. According to the bastardy law a married woman cannot obtain an order unless there is evidence establishing non-access of the husband. At the close of the case for the complainant the submission was made to the jus
<lb/>tices that the law required that for the case to be established. The justices overruled the objection and said there was a case to answer, and it was upon that decision—a wrong decision—that the defendant was called into the witness-box.</p>
<p>The Recorder. If your contention is correct (and I am far from saying that it is not correct) as to access, the proper course would have been to say, "I am not going to take the case any further, I shall appeal to the Quarter Sessions."</p>
<p>Mr. Purcell. I should have adopted that course, but we are here confronted with a charge of perjury which this man was put in a position to commit upon a bad ruling by the justices.</p>
<p>The Recorder. If there is anything in your point of law you must take it elsewhere. I shall hold that the evidence given by this prisoner which the indictment charges to have been perjured was evidence given in "a judicial proceeding," and it will be for the jury simply to say whether he made the statements upon oath, knowing they were false.</p>
<p>Cross-examination continued. The justices ordered that prisoner should be prosecuted for perjury with regard to the writing of the letters the payment of the money not with regard to the paternity of the child. Prisoner in his evidence admitted that he had paid Mrs. Barker money, but he said, "I swear I am not the father of the child and I did not have connection with the complainant in June, 1911, or since. I think it will be a job to say who the father of the child is." Under cross-examination he said, "I have had connection with Mrs. Barker previous to June of 1911."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS WAY</hi>, 63 TR, stationed at Bedfont I pro
<lb/>duce summons, copy of which I served on prisoner on August 30.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBEBT OSBOBNB</hi>, 660 T, warrant officer, Feltham Police Court. I produce bastardy order, copy of which I served on prisoner on September 17.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES LODER</hi>, T Division. On September 19 I served prisoner with a copy of summons (produced) to appear at Feltham Police Court that day. He read it and said, "All right, I shall be there; I have nothing to fear; I do not see how it can be perjury."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Prisoner is a man of very good character. He was a speculative builder and is an undischarged bankrupt.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-58" type="given" value="SUSAN"/>SUSAN BARKER</persName> </hi>, wife of Ernest Seymour Barker, Erith, Chestnut Row, Ashford. I have been living apart from my husband for nearly seven years. I have no idea where he is; I have not seen him for six years. On August, 27 I took out a summons against prisoner, alleging that he was the father of my male child born on March 26, 1912. The case was tried on September 9; I gave evidence and put in two letters (pro
<lb/>duced). I know prisoner's handwriting well; those two Letters are his writing:" Dear M. I send you all the 'blank' that I can manage this week. I am not allowed to have any until this affair is all over. Mother and Mrs. Austin did not go out last Saturday, and do not know whether they will do so this. However, you keep quiet, and I dare say some arrangement can be made somehow. Nil desperados. P. He always used to call me "Maud." Enclosed was a postal order for 7s. Before receiving that letter I met prisoner that morning (July 19) on his way to the station; as he passed me he said, "There is a letter in the post for you." The following day I met him again, and he gave me 3s., making up 10s. for the week. He asked me if I had destroyed the letter. I said I had not; he asked me to burn it; I promised to do so, but did not. On the following Wednesday or Thursday I received letter produced through the post; it is in prisoner's writing; "I shall in all probability be able to meet you to-night at 9 o'clock, Wednesday, on Clock House Bridge. P." I met him there, and we spent an hour together. He asked me to burn, the letter; I promised to do so, but did not. Prisoner is my landlord; I produce rent-book partly written by him in my presence. My rent was 7s. a week; although I never paid it, prisoner used to give me a receipt. He was in the habit of giving me money for his children.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Next Christmas I shall have known prisoner three years. Besides these two letters which I produced I only received from him little notes containing money which he used to slip through the letter-box, which I have not kept. One of those notes said, "Squalls at home." Prisoner has been married 15 or 16 years; his wife is the owner of independent property. I understood he did not want his wife to know that he was having any Acquaintance with me.</p>
<p>I know his wife; some time ago we were on friendly terms. I met prisoner in the busiest road in Ashford; he was with his wife; as they were crossing the road he spoke to me "While his wife was not looking. He told me there was a letter in the post for me. On two or three occasions prisoner gave me money in the presence of Mrs. Lobb. He only gave me one postal order; that was blank, and I probably cashed it with a tradesman.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-59" type="given" value="ETHEL MATILDA CHARLOTTE"/>ETHEL MATILDA CHARLOTTE LOBB</persName> </hi>, wife of William Thomas Lobb, Park Villa, Oakfield Road, Ashford, railway signalman. I have been a tenant of the prisoner for two years; I produce rent-book partly written by him in my presence. To the best of my belief the two letters produced and the envelopes are written by prisoner. Since the beginning of 1912 I have seen prisoner give Mrs. Barker money on many occasions.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I go out charing. I am not an expert in hand
<lb/>writing; I have had very little experience of handwriting. I am quite</p>
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<p>sure I have not made a mistake about prisoner's handwriting. (To the Judge.) Prisoner has given me money and told me to give it to Mrs. Lobb. He twice gave me a sovereign since March 26, 1912. I have seen him (give Mrs. Barker money nearly every Saturday night since March 26.</p>
<p>The Recorder ruled that the jury only consider the assignment of perjury with regard to the payment of money; there was not the necessary evidence of two witnesses with regard to the other assignments.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-60" type="given" value="PERCY"/>PERCY OATTON</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I live in Chestnut Bow, Ash
<lb/>ford; I am a builder and an undischarged bankrupt. I did not write the two letters produced. I once saw Mrs. Barker in High Street, Ashford, when I was with my wife, but I did not speak to her. I have never written her any letter. I have given her money—perhaps in the presence of Mrs. Lobb, but I do not think so; certainly not every Saturday night.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. (At the request of counsel, prisoner wrote in pencil, "Dear M. Until I see you again, you will have to he very careful. Good-bye until next time. Yours, P. ") Mrs. Lobb is no telling the truth.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-61" type="given" value="CAROLINE BESSIE"/>CAROLINE BESSIE OATTON</persName> </hi>, wife of prisoner. In July last I was in Ashford High Street with my husband when we passed Mrs. Barker. Neither of us spoke to her; we walked past. If my husband had spoken to her I should have seen him.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. We did not cross the road; we came along on the same side as Mrs. Barker.</p>
<p>Mr. Purcell, in the course of his address to the jury, submitted that the pay
<lb/>ment of money was not material to the issue tried before the Feltham justices.</p>
<p>The Recorder ruled that it was material.</p>
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<p>(Thursday, October 10.)</p>
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<p>(Wednesday, October 9.)</p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. Cassie Holden prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-63" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT LANGDON</persName> </hi>, "Shakespeare Hotel," Allen Road, Stoke Newing
<lb/>ton. On September 4 I handed this cheque (Ex. 1) on my bank, the London City and Midland, to my father. It had a printed crowing, and I had signed it but not filled in the amount, the date, or the</p>
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<p>payee's name. I did not write across it "Pay cash, Albert Langdon," nor did I authorise it to be written. I never endorsed the cheque "E. Hart and Co.," nor authorise that to be done.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-64" type="given" value="JACK ALBERT"/>JACK ALBERT LANGDON</persName> </hi>. On September 4 my son, the last witness, handed me Ex. 1, which then only bore his signature. I filled in the date, the amount £20, and made it payable to E. Hart and Co. The words, "Pay cash, Albert Langdon," and the endorsement were not written or authorised by me. I posted it at a pillar-box opposite the hotel, addressing the envelope to E. Hart and Co. It would be collected at about 2.40 p.m.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-65" type="given" value="SOL HENRY"/>SOL HENRY DAVIS</persName> </hi>, of E. Hart and Co., jewellers, 20, Clerkenwell Road, E. On September 5 I was expecting a cheque from J.A. Lang
<lb/>don for £20 During office hours, 9.0 a.m. to 6.0 p.m., letters are delivered over the counter and out of office hours in a letter-box at the front door. We have had robberies from our letter-box lately. In consequence of not receiving the cheque on September 5 we com
<lb/>municated with Mr. Langdon. I did not endorse Ex. 1, neither did my partners, who were out of town at the time. We never saw the cheque until after September 5.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-66" type="given" value="FREDERICK CLUNIE"/>FREDERICK CLUNIE WISE</persName> </hi>, cashier, London City and Midland Bank, Stoke Newington branch. About 12.45 a.m. on September 5 prisoner presented Ex. 1. Mr. Langdon had made a communication to us with regard to it. I walked towards the door with a view to detaining the prisoner. On the way I showed the manager the cheque. In answer to a statement I made to him he said, "Is it?"Prisoner, who must have heard this, bolted. I and another clerk, Murdoch, followed him, and Murdoch stopped him. I did not lose sight of him. He said, "All right, I shall not run away." We gave him into custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS EVANS</hi>, M Division. I found prisoner detained at the Kennington Police Station. When charged at 6.30 p.m. with forging and uttering this cheque he said, "I plead not guilty to forging it. I was sent down with it." On the following morning he said he wanted to make a statement. I cautioned him, and he said, "Yesterday about ten o'clock, as I was coming away from Maple's, I walked along Tottenham Court Road. I then went into the 'Horseshoe' public-house, where I saw two men in the bar. One nodded to me and said, 'Aren't you doing anything?' I said, 'I finished up last Friday.' The other one said, 'Perhaps he will take the thing down for you if you are going to stop here to see Alf.' The tall man said to me, 'If you have nothing to do, you might take this for me (producing a cheque). He will go down with you.' He did so, and when near the bank he gave me a cheque and told me to go and get it cashed. Previous to this in the 'Horseshoe' public-house the tall man said, 'I cannot go down, as I have already overdrawn my account by a few pounds.' When near the bank I gave some keys to him and said, 'If anything happens, give these keys to my wife,' and I gave him my address. I was to have £2 for my trouble." I went to the address—6, Ogle Street—which he gave me. His wife opened the door. I received this envelope (Ex. 2), bearing that address. She took the key from the room which he occupied and gave it to me.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. I found that you had been applying for work at Maple's that morning. I had been working there on and off for the past three years.</p>
<p>Re-examined. He was not working there that day.</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the magistrate. "I plead not guilty to forging."</p>
<p>Prisoner on being called upon, for his defence handed in a statement. The Common Serjeant, after perusing it, stated that it would not do prisoner any good to have it read.</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to a previous conviction of felony at the Newing
<lb/>ton Sessions on January 9, 1912, when he was bound over for twelve months. He was stated to be hard-working, but drink had proved to be his downfall.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-21-offence-1 t19121008-name-69"/>Sol Henry Davis</persName> and others, and feloniously receiving the same; forging and uttering, knowing to be forged, a certain order for the payment of £50 10s., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>Mr. Goddard prosecuted; Mr. Fox Davies defended White; Mr. Turrell defended Fletcher.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-70" type="given" value="SOL HENRY"/>SOL HENRY DAVIS</persName> </hi>, of E. Hart and Co., jewellers, Clerkenwell Road. In the early part of September our firm were losing cheques sent to us through the post, in consequence of which we made an arrangement with our bank, the Union of London and Smith's, Goswell Road branch. We procured a blank cheque form and filled it for £50 10s., making ourselves the payees and signing it "W. Francis." We left it open. On September 5 we posted it to ourselves, and on the next morning it was delivered. We left it there, and on Monday morning found it gone. The endorsement now on the cheque, "E. Hart and Co.," is. not in the handwriting of myself or any member of our firm; it is. not authorised by us.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-71" type="given" value="ROBERT GORDON"/>ROBERT GORDON BISHOP</persName> </hi>, cashier, Union of London and Smith's Bank, Goswell Road branch. About 11.45 a.m. on September 9 this cheque (Ex. 1) was presented by Fletcher. Somebody was with him, but I am not certain who he was; he was standing at the next counter, a, foot or two away nearer the door. Recognising it as one drawn pur
<lb/>suant to an arrangement with our customers, E. Hart and Co., I gave a prearranged signal to a colleague. He did not notice it, so I walked to the ledgers at the back and gave him another signal. I returned, to the counter and asked Fletcher how he would have the cheque. The other man had then gone. Fletcher said he would have half and half. A constable came in and prisoner was arrested, The cheque was for £50 10s.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBERT ORCHARD</hi>, 518 G. About 12 p.m. on september 9 I was called to this bank, where Fletcher was given into</p>
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<p>my custody. He said, "If you look outside, you will see a man in a grey suit." I found no such man. On the way to the station he said, "Some man dressed in a blue suit and a bowler hat gave it to me to change."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY GARRARD</hi>, G Division. At the station Fletcher said he wished to explain how he came by the cheque. He said, "This morning I was out with my landlord, Mr. Hartard, look
<lb/>ing for work, and when in Cleveland Street I saw Mr. Thomas White, who on Saturday night asked me to meet him there this morning, saying he had a little job for me to do. White gave me that cheque and asked me to go to the bank and get it cashed. He came with me and showed me where the bank was. On the way he gave me this pocket-book (Ex. 2, which he took from his pocket) and told me to put the cheque into it and when I go to the bank to take the case out of my pocket and then present the cheque, as it would look better, and to say that I wanted the money half and half, and if you are asked who sent you, say Mr. Hart. White came inside the bank with me, and as soon as I put down the cheque he walked out of the bank saying, 'Meet me at the "British Lion, "Huntley Street.' There was some other man with him when I met White White lives at a barber's shop named Ross in Crawford Street." I went to Huntly Street, where, opposite the "British Queen," I saw White with six others. On seeing me they disappeared. The next morning I went to 41, Paddington Street (which is a continuation of Crawford Street), the shop of a barber named Ross, where I saw him. I told him what Fletcher had said about him. He said, "I did not see Fletcher yes
<lb/>terday. I have never seen that cheque before and I have never seen that pocket-case before. I had shown him the cheque and case. I took him to the station, where I confronted him with Fletcher. He again re
<lb/>peated his denials. I then told him I should detain him for witnesses at the bank and Mr. Hartard to identify him. He then said, "I do not want to be put up for identification. I did go to the bank with Fletcher. I did not give him the cheque. Another man that was with me gave Fletcher the cheque." When charged neither prisoner made any reply. On the way to the Clerkenwell Police Court White said, "The man that gave Fletcher the cheque offered me £10 to go and cash it."</p>
<p>To Mr. Fox Davies. He gave me to understand that he did not accept the offer. His wife and daughter said they had never seen the case before. I have made full enquiries as to him and find ho has hitheto borne an excellent character; he took over his father's building business in Marylebone.</p>
<p>Re-cross-examined. I did not know any of the men whom White was with outside the "British Queen," but they must have known me as they disappeared.</p>
<p>White's statement before the magistrate: "I reserve my defence."</p>
<p>Fletcher's statement: "I met Mr. White on Saturday, and asked him to give me a job, and he said, 'Meet me outside the tube station in Euston Road at 11 o'clock.' I went there at that time, and I had my</p>
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<p>landlord with me, and I think he should be a witness for me. When I met Mr. White he had another man with him, and we walked round to Cleveland Street and went in a pub. at the corner of Ogle Street. In the pub. Mr. White spoke to some more men, and one of them came up to me with Mr. White, and said, 'This is what we want you to change for us,' giving me a cheque. I looked at it and gave him back the cheque, and then we went out of the pub., walked up Cleveland Street, and in that street Mr. White gave me the cheque, saying, 'There you are, you can change it for 'us' or 'them' (I am not quite sure which of those words was used), but I took the cheque and said, 'Why don't you change it yourself?' and he said, 'It is quite all right. I will come to the bank with you if you like, and I said, 'Very well.' Then I left my landlord and he went home. I think we got on a bus. There was me, Mr. White and another man in it in a light grey suit. Going along Mr. White gave me a case, saying, 'Put it in this. It will look better, and he said, 'If they ask you how you will have the money, say 'Half and half.' We got to the bank. Mr. White came in with me. The other man waited on the other side of the road. As soon as I put the cheque on the counter Mr. White walked out of the bank. I thought that was funny, but I still waited. The gentleman said 'How will you have it?' and I said what Mr. White told me. I forgot to mention Mr. White told me, 'If they ask you who sent you say Mr. Hart, but they never asked me that. A policeman came into the bank, and they told me the cheque had been stolen. I at once told them to look out for Mr. White and the other man, but when they looked they had gone. The man in the bank saw Mr. White walk out and leave me there. They took me to the station, and I at once told the police where to find Mr. White and where they might find the other man. They went and found Mr. White; they could not find the other man. I must say I am not guilty of knowing that cheque had been stolen nor uttered in any way, as I always thought Mr. White a gentleman, as he has a good business. If I had the least suspicion of it being stolen I would not have had anything to do with it. The cheque that Mr. White gave me was the only cheque I have ever seen in my life. I hope it will be the last. I swear I am not guilty."</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-72" type="given" value="THOMAS CHARLES"/>THOMAS CHARLES WHITE</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath), builder and decorator, 41, Paddington Street, Marylebone. Over six years ago my father handed over the business to me; before he had it my uncle, Sit Edward White, had it, and before him my grandfather. My brother married Fletcher's sister about six years ago. I have known Fletcher about two years, but I have not seen him this year more than three times; I saw him a month before September 7. On September 7 he asked me to give him a job, and I told him to meet me on the following Monday at 11 a.m. at the tube station in Euston Road, and I would tell him whether I could give him a job of moving some scaffolding away. Whilst waiting for him on the Monday at the tube I met by accident</p>
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<p>a man named Cooper, whom I had seen about three times at the "Laurie Arms" public-house, Crawford Street. He was wearing a light grey suit. He asked me if I could cash a cheque for him. I never saw the cheque and he never told me the amount. I told him I could not, and he said, "If you can manage it, you can have £10." I said I would not entertain it. Fletcher then came up with another man, and I told Cooper that Fletcher might change the cheque. He suggested having a drink, and we all four went to a public-house in Cleveland Street, where we all had drinks. I did not give the cheque to Fletcher; I never had it in my hands; I saw it folded but never opened. We met a man in a blue suit in the public-house; he was a stranger to me. I rather think it was Cooper who handed Fletcher the cheque, but I am not prepared to swear whether it was he or the man in the blue suit. I took no part in the negotiations about the cheque. Another man, the man in the blue suit, Fletcher, and I left; I do not know what became of Cooper. We walked east along Euston Road; I did not hear what passed between Fletcher and anyone else, as I was walking behind. I never saw the case (produced) until Sergeant Garrard showed it to me; I saw no one give it to Fletcher. We all got on a bus to Goswell Road. I knew I was going to a bank, but I did not know which. On arriving there I followed Fletcher into the bank although he did not want me to. I saw him put the cheque on the counter and I walked out; I never saw the clerk signalling. I noticed that the other two men we had left outside were not there. I then went to the "British Queen," where I met them. I asked them where Cooper was and what was the trouble about the cheque; I asked them that because I found them missing from outside the bank. One of them said, "Serve the silly b—right." I said it was very wrong of them to get Fletcher in trouble. I went to the bank more out of bravado to see if the cheque was genuine—out of curiosity. I was expecting to get nothing out of it. I then went to my workshop. When Sergeant Garrard saw me next morning I said I had never seen the cheque or the letter-case before, which was correct. I was so confused at the time that I said I had not seen Fletcher the previous day, but I believe I rectified that directly after. (Witness categorically denied Fletcher's statement to the effect that he, White, had given him the cheque and letter-case, with instructions what to do when present
<lb/>ing the cheque.)</p>
<p>To Mr. Turrell. I introduced Fletcher to Cooper. I never heard anyone in the public-house say that the cheque was all right. I did not say to Fletcher, "Yes, I will go to the bank with you." It is true I did go to the bank, but I went more out of curiosity's sake. When I was offered £10 to change it I did not know what to make of it; I did not suspect the cheque was wrong when I suggested that Fletcher could change it; there was no reason why I should not have changed it myself.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Goddard. Fletcher did not know me suffi
<lb/>ciently well to know what public-houses I used. I met Cooper for the first lime about Christmas time at a public-house where I was doing some work, the "Laurie Arms "; he is a good billiard player, and I</p>
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<p>learnt his name by the handicap sheet. While I have been out on bail I have looked for him. I mentioned his name to Garrard when he took me to the station, and gave a description of him. I have been to the "Laurie Arms" to find him, but I have not seen him there for months; I did not ask the people there where he was. I cannot understand why Fletcher should put this thing on me, because it makes no difference to him who handed him the cheque. I refused to change the cheque for Cooper because I do not like cheques; my suspicion increased when he offered me £10. The first thing I heard about the cheque as far as Fletcher was concerned was when I heard him in the public-house say, "I will take it." On the way to the public-house he and Cooper were walking on in front, and I gathered they were talking about the cheque, although I did not hear the conversation. I had no reason to give Fletcher any warning, as I did not think then that it was a wrong cheque; I had no proof. Although I went into the bank with Fletcher to see if the cheque was genuine, it is true I did not wait to see what happened. It was the other men who told Fletcher to meet at the "British Queen "; I did not know where it was, and I had a job to find it. I cannot explain why the two men waiting outside having gone when I came out made me suspicious; I went into the bank to see it the cheque was genuine, not to see if Fletcher got into trouble. When Sergeant Garrard came to the "British Queen" I and the other men did not run away; I did not see him. I got home that night at 11; I went to the music-hall. I was rather upset about the cheque, but I did not try to find Cooper that night.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-73" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES EVEREST</persName> </hi>, builder, 119, Crawford Street, Marylebone, stated that he had known White 16 years, during which time his character in the neighbourhood had been very good.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-74" type="given" value="LEON VICTOR"/>LEON VICTOR HARTARD</persName> </hi>, painter and decorator, 27, Clarence Gardens, Regent's Park. Fletcher rents a room from me. On September 9 I went with him to the Euston tube station, where we saw White, whom I had met two or three times before. He introduced us to a man in a grey suit who was with him. We all then went to a public-house, where a man in a very light blue suit joined in. I saw a piece of folded paper handed to Fletcher; when he opened it I saw it was a cheque; I cannot say who handed it to him. The man in blue said, "It is quite all right," and White said, "Yes, I will go to the bank with you."</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Thomas Davies. I was looking for a job.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Goddard. I walked with White to the public-house; we did not hear the conversation of the two men walking in front. After leaving the public-house White handed a piece of paper to Fletcher. I cannot say who had the cheque when we left the public-house as it passed from hand to hand; I did not see Flecther part with it. The man in the blue suit said when it was handed to Fletcher, "Half gold and half 'smratch." I am positive that the piece of paper which White handed Fletcher at the corner was not the cheque.</p>
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<p>Fletcher confessed to a previous conviction of felony on April 26, 1910, at the Marylebone Police Court; he had been bound over in 1909. and in March this year had been, sentenced to three months' hard labour for being found on enclosed premises; he had been charged with living on the earnings of prostitution, and had been Acquitted; his evidence in the case of Charles Ellsom (see vol. clv., p. 580) was re
<lb/>ferred to; he then stated that he got his living by thieving and was proud of it. There was another indictment against him, upon which he desired to be tried.
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<p>Sentence (White):
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<p>Mr. H.C. Bickmore prosecuted; Mr. C. O'Malley defended.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. There has been some ill-feeling with regard to the strike. (The story told by prisoner in his evidence subsequently given was put to witness, who denied it altogether.)</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. When a constable asked me to point out the man who had struck prosecutor, I at first picked out, not prisoner, but another man. When I saw prisoner at the Mansion House I was certain he was the right man. It is not correct to say that there was a fight between the two men.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. It is not true that there was a fight and that both men fell down.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. Prisoner bears a good character.</p>
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<p>There were no previous convictions against prisoners.</p>
<p>Sentences: Sulley,
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<p>Mr. Tully-Christie prosecuted.</p>
<p>Eleven previous convictions were proved.</p>
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<p>(Thursday, October 10.)</p>
<p>Smith was further indicted for
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<p>Mr. Menzies prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-102" type="given" value="FANNY"/>FANNY KELLY</persName> </hi>, 69, St. Mary's Road, Edmonton. I lodge in the upper part of the house. Mr. and Mrs. Brooker occupy the down-stairs and one room upstairs. Prisoner, is my nephew. He called on Sunday, September 8, and had dinner and tea. I do not know if he had any money. My husband gave him 1s. on Sunday night to get himself some food. He left about 9 p.m. My husband has a box in which he kept two overcoats, a blue jacket, pair of boots, and two knives. The tobacco box was kept in a tin box on the mantelpiece. The big box was locked on the Sunday night in my presence after prisoner had gone. I did not see prisoner again till the 18th, when I charged him. On Tuesday, September 10, I went out at 6.20 a.m. When I returned at 7 I saw a parcel in my husband's armchair that did not belong to him. It contained two bolsters. I found that my husband's two coats, boots, tobacco box, and two knives were missing, I saw the tobacco box at the police court. I knew it directly. My nephew wrote from Brixton Prison, "Dear Uncle, in respect to the charge which you are about to bring up against me next Thursday I shall be very glad if you could look over things and give me a little bit of a chance as I have a great deal to face without being charged with your case against me, so if you could look over things I shall be very pleased and am willing to make everything good to you by paying you a little at the time, as you know very well I was absolutely starving," etc.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I know the tobacco box by the fastening and the way my husband has worn it.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-103" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROOKER</persName> </hi>, 69, St. Mary's Road, Edmonton. I occupy the ground floor. I saw prisoner on September 8. He came again on the 10th at 6.30 a.m. I knew he was a nephew of Mrs. Kelly. He asked if she was in. I said, "No, she had been gone about 10 minutes." He was carrying a parcel and asked if he could leave it in Mrs. Kelly's room. I told him he could. He took it upstairs, came down and went out. I saw no more of him. The parcel contained two bolsters. He went away without it. I saw the parcel at the police court. Mrs. Kelly had shown me the parcel before that, when she called me up to her room.</p>
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<lb/>tenham. I searched prisoner at the police-station. I found on him the tobacco box produced. When charged he made no reply.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-105" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES SMITH</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). About 6.30 a.m., on the 10th I think it was, I left my lodgings and got on a tram to go to Edmonton. I had a parcel with a few private things and these two bolsters. They were my own property, which I intended leaving there for my aunt to look after. What John Brooker has said is right. I did not tell Mrs. Brooker I had seen my aunt. I went upstairs and took the parcel out that I intended to leave there for my aunt to look after. I saw my aunt on the top of a tram in Tottenham. I have no witnesses here. I was taking the bolsters to my aunt's because I had nowhere else to leave them. The tobacco box I have had nine months. My aunt knows I have had it; in fact, I have offered my uncle pipes of tobacco out of it. I know nothing about the other things; the police cannot produce them and bring it home to me.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I had been living in a furnished room. I left it the night before. The young woman left me. I was on my own. I did not want to leave my clothes, so I thought I would take them to Campbell Road, Holloway, where I had always been staying. I thought I could leave the bolsters at my aunt's and I could always fetch them. When I first inquired at the door Brooker told me if I hurried up I could catch my aunt; she had only been gone two minutes, so of course I took the parcel upstairs and comes back. I thought I might be able to catch her up. I could not find her. I wanted to repay the 1s. I had off my uncle. The reason I went so early is this: I stayed at White Hart Lane, that is Tottenham, and to go to Holloway and then have to come back to Edmonton would have cost me three or four times as much, so I gets on the tram and had a 1/2 d. ride to the Town Hall. I have my living to get and: have to get up early. With regard to the letter I wrote saying, "With respect to the charge against me if you will look over things I will pay you." I was up on one charge for which I was tried yesterday, and I thought to myself, "I do not see why they want to bring another one up that I know nothing about; it only means showing me up in court; they know I have got to get about and get a living." I promised to pay all the debt I owed them. I have had 3s. or 4s. from them altogether. The letter does not refer to this charge.</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to a previous conviction. Other convictions were proved.</p>
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<p>(Thursday, October 10.)</p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. J.P. Grain prosecuted; Mr. St. John Hutchinson defended.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-109" type="given" value="LILY"/>LILY HILLMAN</persName> </hi>. I live at 1, Lancaster Place Strand, with my husband. I am the housekeeper, and live at the top of the house. At half past 12 on the early morning of September 21 I heard some men talking loudly outside, and I went over to the window; I saw a coffee-stall which stands outside every night; I saw a group of men round it. I heard the men quarrelling; there were two girls standing there, and they seemed to get tired of waiting, and they walked partly over the bridge. Then one of the men made it up; they shook hands and then the girls came back to the coffee-stall. There was an old gentleman coming along the pavement from Waterloo Bridge towards the Strand. The old man was then in front of the girls. I saw one of the men strike the old gentleman, and he fell to the ground. I did not see the old gentleman speak to any of the men or the girls; he seemed to be walking straight along; I am sure the old gentleman did not attempt to kick the man who struck him before he was struck. My window was open. In my opinion the deceased man was sober.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I live just a little way from the coffee-stall. I could hear people talking, but I could not hear what they said. There is not much traffic at that time of night. I heard these men quarrel
<lb/>ling, but I could not hear what they said. I could not hear whether the old gentleman said anything to the girls or the girls said anything to him. If they were talking at all above the average I would have heard them. There is a lamp-post by the coffee-stall. This crowd of men were standing under the lamp-post between Nos. 1 and 2, Lancaster Place. I could not tell who it was who struck deceased; there was a group of men; I could not recognise them. It was a heavy blow; a swinging blow; I was shocked at the strength of the blow. I cannot tell winch way the man was facing who struck the blow. Deceased was walking by the group of men when the blow was struck; the man who did it turned deliberately round and struck him.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-110" type="given" value="ALBERT VICTOR"/>ALBERT VICTOR HILLMAN</persName> </hi>, son of the last witness. I sleep on the top-floor of 1, Lancaster Place. I heard this noise on September 21, and went and looked out of the same window as my mother. I saw the two girls coming over the bridge with an old gentleman; and outside our place the prisoner struck the man and he fell to the ground; the man struck him on the jaw with his right hand. I did not hear de
<lb/>ceased use bad language. I did not see deceased preparing to make a blow with his hands or his feet.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. I said it was prisoner who pushed deceased down, but I do not really know whether it was or not. I saw someone push him to the ground; I was not at the window the whole time with my mother; my mother called me. I saw this man talking; I saw the girls soon after that. The deceased was in front of the girls at first, then the girls seemed to get in front of him; they got in front of him a few minutes before he was struck. When they got to this group of men the girls seemed to speak to them. I did not hear what they said. The blow was a swinging blow; it looked a hard blow; I did not notice which way the man was facing who struck the blow.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-111" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR COOK</persName> </hi>, parcels porter at Waterloo Station. About 12.25 on this morning I was riding in a motor-bus travelling from Aldwych to Waterloo Bridge; we pulled up outside the coffee-stall. While I and two others were drinking our tea I saw a crowd outside the lamp
<lb/>post against Lancaster Place; two women left this crowd and came by the coffee-stall to go over Waterloo Bridge; the two came back from Waterloo Bridge towards the Strand. One of the women got to the lamp-post, where the crowd was; the prisoner stepped out of the crowd and struck deceased on the jaw and he fell down backwards; he was a yard behind the two women; I should say the blow was a right-hand swing. I did not see the deceased kick at prisoner or do anything to him; I cannot say whether he said anything; deceased fell with his head in the road and his feet on the kerb. I am sure that prisoner is the man who struck the blow. He stopped with the crowd for a few minutes, then he disappeared; he darted down the steps leading to the Embankment on the left-hand side going over Waterloo Bridge; from Lancaster Place he would have to cross the road to get to the steps. I helped to put deceased on the stretcher; at that time he was beat to the world.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. At the police court I said', "Prisoner appears to be the man who struck the blow." I did not hear any wrangling between the men who were standing by the lamp-post. They were about 15 to 20 yards away from us. The old gentleman was about a yard behind the girls; he was no; in front; I did not hear any conversation at all; if there had been I should have heard it. They walked towards the Strand and then the women reached the group of men; they turned round and said something to the deceased; I could hear what they said. Prisoner stepped out and struck the deceased a right-hand blow; I could not say whether it was a blow from the open or the closed hand. I assisted to pick deceased up; I did not see anybody let deceased's head fall on the ground when we picked him up; he only had one fall; we lifted the deceased round and put him down very gently without letting him fall.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">INSOLL</hi>, fish porter. I was returning home by Lancaster Place; I had just passed the lamp-post, when I saw the prisoner and four other men there; I had just passed them. Deceased came along with the two women; they were using bad language to him; he said, "I will give you in charge." They passed quite close to me. I did not hear deceased use any bad language; I did not see him kick or strike at anybody before he fell; I should think he was sober. The girls and</p>
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<p>deceased got within two yards of the lamp-post and prisoner stepped out and hit him with the right hand under the jaw and he fell back into the road—half on the road and half on the pavement; his head was in the road. I should say the blow was given with a shut hand.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. When I first noticed the girls they were between the coffee-stall and the lamp-post; when I saw deceased he was walking level with the girls; just as he got to the crowd the girls got in front; they were using bad language to deceased; they were speaking in a loud voice. It was the swearing that drew my attention to them. The girls did not say anything to the group of men; prisoner then stepped out and struck deceased; before he struck the blow prisoner was walk
<lb/>ing towards Waterloo Bridge. By the way the man went down I should imagine it was a very hard blow. After deceased fell down the four other men who were with prisoner tried to pick deceased up.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-112" type="given" value="THOMAS WILLIAM"/>THOMAS WILLIAM BAILEY</persName> </hi>, coffee-stall keeper, Lancaster Place. On this morning I was at my stall; I saw two young women coming towards the stall from the direction of Waterloo Bridge; I know them by sight; I saw deceased walking just behind them. I heard deceased and the women jangling with one another; I could not hear what they said. I did not notice deceased doing anything to the women; they passed me and went on about 20 yards, where there was four or five young fellows standing; all at once I saw one of them step out and hit deceased; I could not say whether it was a hard blow or not. I saw the deceased fall into the road, his head in the road and his feet on the pavement. I have never seen prisoner before; I saw the man, who struck the blow come towards me; he went across the road and down the steps on to the Embankment.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I know the last witness; he came to my stall that night. I saw deceased and the two women when they were passing my stall; I heard the women jangling; if they had been making much noise I should have heard what they said. Deceased seemed to me to be intoxicated; he was jangling back at the women; they passed quite close to me. I saw them reach the group of men at the lamppost; I did not notice if deceased said anything to the men; I cannot say whether it was a hard blow or not. I did not see deceased try to kick anybody; if he had I should have seen it. I did not hear what deceased said to prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-113" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WALDEN</persName> </hi>, Salvation Army officer. I know deceased; he was employed in the King Street shelter; he was about 65 years of age. He had been with us for nine years.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. He was the resident manager at King Street; he was at liberty to take hours off when convenient.</p>
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<lb/>rence. I found the deceased lying on the footway; he was uncon
<lb/>scious; an ambulance was fetched and he was taken to the King's College Hospital; he partly regained consciousness when he got to the Hospital.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Deceased was not moved while I was there until the ambulance was fetched.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">SHAW</hi>, house surgeon, King's College Hospital. On the early morning of September 21, when deceased was brought into the hospital, he was unconscious, but he could be roused by speaking sharply to him, sufficiently to give his name. He had two small clots of blood, one upon each nostril; beyond that he had no other sign of external violence; from that time he never recovered. The injuries might have been caused by a blow, but not a severe one; they could have been caused by the open hand. Upon the post-mortem examina
<lb/>tion I found that deceased had a fracture at the base of the skull which caused compression of the brain and which resulted in coma and death. There was a big bruise on the back of the head which may have been caused by a severe fall. If deceased had received a violent blow at the side of the face I should have expected to find a mark there. I found no marks.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM GREIG</hi>. I was present at the inquest on October 1. Just before the Court was about to sit prisoner approached me and said: "I am the man you have been looking for." I turned round and said, "Is your name Barnes?"He said, "Yes." I then said, "I am a police-inspector; I must caution you; anything you say will be taken down and may be used as evidence against you." He said, "My name is William Barnes, I wish to tell the truth about this matter; I wish to surrender myself in connection with this affair. I admit that I pushed the man and I do not wish to be put up for identification. I pushed the man and he fell to the ground on the morning of Saturday the 21st. His name is James Mead." That statement was read over to prisoner and he signed it. He immedi
<lb/>ately afterwards gave evidence before the Coroner. After the Coroner's verdict had been given I arrested him on the Coroner's war
<lb/>rant. I took him to Bow Street and formally charged him. He said, "Yes." He was then taken before the magistrate at Bow Street and remanded.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-114" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BARNES</persName> </hi> (prisoner on oath). At half past 12, on September 21, I was with a friend of mine named Barney Bloom and two other young men; we were in a public-house just off the Strand. We came out of the public-house and went towards Waterloo Bridge to go home. The girls had already left our company; I had seen them before, but did not know them personally. As we were going over the bridge a young man spoke to one of my friends and we stopped. While we were talking the two girls came up with an old gentleman; they seemed to be jangling; the old man seemed to be intoxicated. The girl said to me, "You might atop this man from molesting us." I turned round and I said to the old man, "You might leave the girls alone; have not you got better sense; leave the girls alone." He turned round to me and says, "Do you want f—g kicking." I was surprised by him say
<lb/>ing that. He lifted his leg to kick me and I pushed him with my flat hand, touching him right on the side of the face. I believe he</p>
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<p>would have kicked me if I had not pushed him. He fell to the ground. I could not say how he fell. As I walked out from the others a woman standing by said, "You ought not to have done that, young man, he is an-old man." I said, "If he'd been a young man I should have punched him." She said, "The first policeman that comes along I shall give you in charge." I walked into the road along by the vans that were coming along, and crossed the road and went down the steps. I did not give deceased a swinging blow. I caught him with my open hand; there was hardly any force used. I only wanted to push him away so as to prevent him kicking me.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I had seen the two young women once or twice before; I had been in their company before. I had not been about the Strand and in other places with them. On this night we met them in the Strand. They had been in a public-house with us. I did not know where the girls were going; I knew where I was going; we were all making towards home over Waterloo Bridge. I know the girls live over the bridge. If this old man had not come along we should have gone right home. I do not know who the woman was who said I ought not to have done it. I saw the old man fall, but I could not tell how he fell; I did not see him in the road. I did not see any blood; I did not see whether he was unconscious or not. I should have stopped to help him, but I was interested in talking to the woman who spoke to me. I did not run away at once at all. When the woman spoke to me deceased was lying on the ground; I do not know how he was lying. I did not run away, I went away because of what the woman had said. I did not render any assistance to this old man. When I went away I do not know what became of the girls. It was just by luck that I met my friends again over the bridge.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I was not afraid; I should have helped the man if had not been for Bloom saying, "All right, I will see to it; you go away, Bill "; and I went away thinking that he was going to see the old man all right. Deceased attempted to kick me; his foot did not come right out.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-115" type="given" value="BARNET"/>BARNET BLOOM</persName> </hi>, who was with prisoner, corroborated his story, and added that while he and two other men were picking deceased up one of the men left go and deceased fell on his head.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-116" type="given" value="EDITH"/>EDITH BRADLEY</persName> </hi>. On September 21 I and Violet Watts were with prisoner am these other men; we left them and Went over Waterloo Bridge. We saw the old man and he used foul language to us. We told the man to leave us alone and go away and he would not do to. We walked back to prisoner and the other men. I asked Barney Bloom to ask the man to go away. Prisoner asked the man what was the matter with him; the deceased put his foot out ready to kick prisoner. The next I saw was the man lying on the ground. My friend then walked away.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I know Barney Bloom and I know where he lives; I have not seen prisoner there. I did not go over the bridge with him after this had taken place. I did not see him again that night. Barney Bloom did not come home with me.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-117" type="given" value="DAVID JOHN"/>DAVID JOHN FLYNN</persName> </hi>. I was with prisoner, my brother, and Barney Bloom on September 21. I saw the two girls walking on over the bridge. They came back with an old man and I heard them jangling. One of the girls came up to prisoner and asked if he would make the old man leave off jangling to them. Prisoner walked up to the old man and said, "Why don't you leave the girls alone, sir?"The old man made a kick at prisoner. Prisoner pushed him on the jaw; I could not say whether his hand was open or closed; the man fell to the ground. Bloom went to pick him up with the assistance of two other young fellows; I saw the old man get up almost on his feet and the two young fellows both let go. I do not know the young men. I then went away; I did not stop to see whether the man was hurt.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I did not tell the police officer prisoner "punched him on the jaw," he pushed him on the jaw. I told the inspector, "The man fell down; Bill struck him a heavy blow in the face. After he fell down, Bill walked down the steps on to the Embankment." I did not say to the police officer, "It did not half go a smack."</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-118" type="given" value="VIOLET"/>VIOLET WATTS</persName> </hi> corroborated Edith Bradley.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-119" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD FLYNN</persName> </hi> corroborated David John Flynn.</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to several previous convictions for larceny.</p>
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<p>Mr. Forrest Fulton prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-122" type="given" value="MARTHA"/>MARTHA TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. My husband (prisoner) and I have not always been on good terms; he is suffering from delusions. He has been in an asylum for 11 years. He came out in July, 1900. He has been living with me since that time. He has had recent symptoms of mental trouble. On August 30 I was standing with my back to the kitchen door; prisoner came out and jumped on to the back of me, put one hand on my chin and was cutting my throat with a shoemaker's knife. I called for assistance, which came, and was then taken to the infirmary. I do not think prisoner knew what he was doing. We have always lived on affectionate terms.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-124" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK CLEVELAND</persName> </hi>, Inspector, J Division. At half past 10 on August 30 I saw Mrs. Taylor at Bethnal Green Infirmary. In con
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<p>with attempting to murder his wife by cutting her throat with a shoe
<lb/>maker's knife. He said, "I did not mean to murder her; I have had great provocation." He was charged, and made no reply.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-125" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT ROBINSON</persName> </hi>, french polisher. On August 30 I went to 136, Bethnal Green Road. I there saw prisoner and his wife struggling. I assisted the woman upstairs. The knife (produced) was in the woman's hand.</p>
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<lb/>soner in Approach Road. The last witness spoke to me; I spoke to prisoner. I said, "What have you been doing?"He replied, "I had great provocation to do it." I took him to the police station; he was charged and made no reply. I took Mrs. Taylor to the infirmary. Robinson gave me the knife produced.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-126" type="given" value="SIDNEY REGINALD"/>SIDNEY REGINALD DYER</persName> </hi>, Medical Officer, Brizton Prison. I have had prisoner under observation since August 30. He was full of de
<lb/>lusions. I do not think he knew the nature and quality of the act which he is charged with. I do not think he was responsible for his actions.</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the magistrate: "I have had lately a great many tricks played on me, both day and night. I am terribly persecuted of late, both day and night. Could not get any sleep through pains through being hustled about in my sleep. I have not actually known what I have been doing."</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-127" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). The only evidence I can give is this. I have always been sober, industrious, honest, through
<lb/>out my life. I was always comfortable with my wife and my three daughters. I am extremely sorry for them and for the wife as well. I hope the jury will take my character into consideration mercifully.</p>
<p>(Prisoner read several letters from his wife and daughters.)</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-30-offence-1 t19121008-name-129"/>John Challis Vine</persName> and another, with intent to injure them.</rs> </p>
<p>Mr. Wells Thatcher prosecuted.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY COATES</hi>. On September 3 I was on duty at John Street Police Station. Prisoner came in with another officer. He said, "About five or six years ago I was working for George Johnson, carman and contractor, 8, Milk Street, City. On a Saturday night a fire occurred at some stables at Wenlock Road. I went up in the straw loft, lit some paper, and set fire to the place; I ran out and assisted to get the horses out. The next morning the governor accused me of it and got out a warrant for my arrest. I am uneasy in my mind and wish to make a clean breast of it. I have never told anyone before." It is not true that there was a warrant out for him. I asked him if the statement was true, and he said, "Yes, quite." He appeared to be a man who Wad been drinking, but he knew what he was saying.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. You were not drunk when you came to the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-130" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED MILLER</persName> </hi>, Sub-Office, London Fire Brigade, stationed at Clerkenwell. I remember a fire breaking out at 7.21 p.m. on Sep
<lb/>tember 28, 1901, at a building used as a stables and stores. The build
<lb/>ing and contents were nearly burnt out.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-131" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED BRIDGES</persName> </hi>, horse-kesper and chaff-cutter. In 1901 I was em
<lb/>ployed by Mr. Johnson, of Wenlock Street, as a carman. There were generally between 90 and 100 horses in the stables and 30 or 40 loads of straw. I remember the fire. I know prisoner; he was discharged from the firm a month or six weeks before the fire. I did not see him on the night of the fire.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-132" type="given" value="JOHN CHALLIS"/>JOHN CHALLIS VINE</persName> </hi>, carman and contractor. In 1901 I was in partnership with Mr. Johnson as contractors, and had stables at Wenlock Street. On September 28, 1901, the place was burnt down, and damage was done to the amount of £6,000. I know prisoner. I discharged him a few weeks before the fire. I did not see prisoner at the stables on the day of the fire. I have not accused him of setting fire to the place.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-133" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DAY</persName> </hi>, timber-porter. I remember the fire breaking out in the stables at Wenlock Road. I saw it start from the roof. I ran into the stables. I saw prisoner there; he asked me for a knife to cut the halter of a horse. I could not say if he helped to get the horses out. I did not see the going of him.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-134" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED BRIDGES</persName> </hi> (recalled). The fire began in the loft in the bottom yard. There is like three floors. The stables are underneath.</p>
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<lb/>ber 4 I saw prisoner detained at John Street Police Station. He said, "I know nothing about What I said last night; I was drunk." I said, "Is your proper name Harm?"He said, "No, my name is James Smith; I live at Compton Street." I took him to City Road Police Station, and he was charged; he gave his name as James Harris. He made no reply to the charge.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-135" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HARRIS</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). I was drunk and know nothing of it. I was there, but it was not me that caused the fire. I tried to get the horses out. I did not set the place on fire. Verdict,
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>.</p>
<p>(Thursday, October 10.)</p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. Bodkin, Mr. Travers Humphreys, and Mr. Roome prosecuted; Mr. Montague Shearman, junior, defended Haley; Mr. C.A.H. Black defended Coles; Mr. A. Clement Edwards, M.P., defended Luxon.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PERCY ATTERSALL</hi>, 266 E, proved plan for use in the case.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN BOUSTEAD</hi>. On August 12 I took two photo
<lb/>graphs of No. 8 gate of St. Katherine's Dock which I produce. The gate is about 15 ft. high.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES BILLINGS</hi>, H Division. On July 24 a strike of lightermen, carmen, and workers in the Docks had been going on for ten weeks. I had to arrange protection by escorts for persons working during the strike. Tower Hill was used every day for meet
<lb/>ings by the strikers; there had also been processions. On July 24 about 15, 000 strikers marched to Tower Hill, where speeches were made: at about 2.20 p.m. a band struck up, a banner was hoisted bearing the words "Union and victory," and the procession of be
<lb/>tween 5, 000 and 6, 000 men, accompanied by police, marched towards East Smithfield. The mood of the crowd was very aggressive. There were between 200 and 300 police present. I followed behind the pro
<lb/>cession to Nightingale Lane, where it halted, and then proceeded down Nightingale Lane, which was packed with men and vehicles waiting to go into the docks Some of the men got on to carts and were shouting and booing; carmen were thrown off their seats, traces undone, horses taken out, and the contents of the vans thrown on to the road. I saw a number of men back a railway van against No. 8 gate of St. Katherine's Dock; some men were putting their feet against the van and pushing with their backs against the gate. One man called out, "All together, boys." A rope attached to a docker's hook was thrown on to the top of the gate, and when the hook caught on several men climbed on to the gate; one man was battering the gate with a piece of timber. The gates were beginning to give at the top; one man called out, "All together, boys, they are giving now." I saw Luxon jump from the top of the gate into the dock; I saw him afterwards in custody in the dock with another man—Simson. We then cleared a space in front of the dock gates; we used our truncheons to bring the men down from the top of the gate. When the police tried to pull the men down by their legs, others threw bricks, mortar, bottles, and coke. I saw a van laden with cocoa-nut fibre on fire; the crowd threw missiles at the police who were trying to extinguish the flames. With about a dozen mounted and 50 foot police I commenced to clear the lane from the bottom up towards Upper East Smithfield; I directed the police to use their truncheons. I heard cries of "Stick together, hoys." After considerable difficulty we drove them all into Upper East Smithfield. Eighteen constables and four horses were injured—none seriously. The horses of two mounted police were thrown down. I saw Warren taken into custody by a police officer.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Shearman. I did not see Haley. A good many of these dockers live in Wapping, Shadwell, and the districts beyond Shadwell. Nightingale Lane would be the direct way from Tower Hill to Wapping; it would be roundabout to Shadwell I did not see any women there. (To Mr. Edwards.) Near Tower Hill the meeting hooted a carman driving a van. We cleared Nightingale Lane from the bottom end; reinforcements of police arrived at the top end of Nightingale Lane; I directed them to follow the crowd in the different directions in which they dispersed. I do not think those reinforcements charged the crowd down Nightingale Lane while we were driving them up. When we started to drive the crowd up Nightingale Lane there were police at the top; there were police all the way along, they were hemmed in by the crowd; it would not be true to say that the crowd were hemmed in by the police. There is no doubt at all that a very great number of the processionists were injured by the police truncheons. The crush was very great in the Lane; men might have climbed on to vans to get out of the crush. The men on strike, if they had chosen to do so, could have proceeded in procession through the Lane; those who wanted to go on peaceably could have done so.</p>
<p>Sub-divisional Inspector
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<lb/>ingale Lane.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Edwards. I unsuccessfully attempted to lead the procession away from the docks.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HERBERT POTTER</hi>, K Division. On July 24 I was on foot and accompanied the procession from Tower Hill about 50 yards from its head. The procession appeared to be going along Upper East Smithfield; when they had got past Nightingale Lane part of the pro
<lb/>cession began shouting; they suddenly broke away and rushed down Nightingale Lane as hard as ever they could go. The mounted police at the head and the band then regained their position. Going down Nightingale Lane some of the men in the procession began using most filthy expressions towards men who could be seen wheeling trucks from one dock to another. On both sides of the lane there were stationary vehicles waiting to be loaded at the docks. Fifteen yards from No. 8 Gate a van laden with cocoanut fibre burst into flames; the crowd was very hostile; I heard cries of, "Let it burn, do some more." We took out the horse from that and from several vans and let them loose in the crowd as they were in danger of being burnt. A man struck me on the shoulder with a wool hook; I seized him and wrenched the hook from him; others closed round me and I got several blows on the face and shoulders. I drew my truncheon and struck the man who had struck</p>
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<p>me on the shoulder; he was pulled away from my grasp. Several stones were thrown; I saw a policeman's helmet knocked off with a piece of timber. I saw a van being backed into No. 8 Gate; it was crowded with men; ropes were stretched from some part of the van to the gate; two men were sitting astride he gate. Superintendent Billings and other officers were trying to persuade the men to come down from the gates. It was a perfect pandemonium—he men were shouting, urging each other to get on to the vans and gates, and booing. I went to the top end of Nightingale Lane, collected 15 or 20 policemen, and cleared the lane from the top end; we did not quite succeed in clearing it down to No. 8 Gate, but very nearly. After that I saw the strikers coming up towards the top of Nightingale Lane with the other police from the bottom of the lane coming up behind them. It is absolutely incorrect to suggest that I and the other police at the top of the lane were preventing the strikers from getting out.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Edwards. When the head of the procession reached No. 8 Gates they were open, the procession did not attempt to turn in. About 1, 500 men marched past No. 8 Gate, then, the flames broke out on the van, which was about 40 yards to the South of No. 8 Gate. I do not know how the fire broke out. The part of the procession that I was with stopped when the flames broke out.</p>
<p>(Friday, October 11.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-148" type="given" value="HERBERT"/>HERBERT POTTER</persName> </hi>, recalled. Further cross-examined. When I saw Superintendent Billings at No. 8 Gate the crowd was very congested. It would not be unreasonable for anyone to try and get out of the crush by climbing on to a van.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-149" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SUTTON</persName> </hi>, constable, Port of London Authority. On the after
<lb/>noon of July 24 I was on duty inside No. 8 Gate of St. Katherine's Dock, when the procession, headed by a band, marched past the gate; when the hand had got about 30 to 40 yards past he gate the procession for some cause halted and the men began hooting, groaning, and shout
<lb/>ing all manner of offensive things to the men at work in the docks. One of them said, "Let's charge the b—dock and clear them out of it." They at once made a rush at the gate. One half of the gate was closed; I closed the remaining half just as the rush reached it. Somebody's hand got caught in the gate; I released it and bolted the gate. I heard cries of, "Get a van and back it into the gate." They appeared to be trying to burst the gate. There being no top fastenings, the gate began to give at the top; I put two pieces of timber to act as a strut. A rope was hooked on to the top of the gate. I went to inform my inspector. When I came back several men were on top of the gate and one man was on the ground struggling; he was taken into custody. Another man had been taken into custody before. I could not identify either of those men.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. If there were a danger threatening at both ends of Nightingale Lane the only means of escape would be into the dock. The man whose hand was caught in the gate was not hurt. When I</p>
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<p>came back from telling the inspector there were three police officers inside No. 8 Gate: four or five had gone away with the men in custody. Sub-divisional Inspector
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS PEEL</hi>, K Division, corroborated Inspector Anderson. I was mounted, and followed the procession from Tower Hill. I saw two men climbing up the rope on to the gate; to the best of my recollection they were Luxon and Simson. They dis
<lb/>appeared over the other side of the gate. A bag of fodder was thrown at me. I asked a delegate to disperse the crowd. He said, "We are not going from here till we get them all out." We drove the crowd from No. 8 gate down the lane towards Wapping High Street. We left some officers at the bottom of the lane, and cleared the lane up
<lb/>wards from No. 8 gate towards Upper East Smithfield.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The procession was broken before the van was set on fire. Two minutes elapsed from the time when I saw the van catch fire until I got up to it; during that time I was driving the crowd down towards Wapping High Street; they offered considerable resistance; six mounted police officers were pulled off their horses. We were driving the crowd in the direction of the burning van. The gate was closed before the fire broke out. It decidedly was not the breaking out at the fire which caused the procession to halt. The procession broke into two parts at No. 8 gate. Six or seven minutes elapsed from the time when I first saw the halt till the time when I first saw the flames. I drove a great congested crowd into a narrower space past a burning van because I was directed to do so. I think it would have been a still more wicked thing for me to sit still and be torn to pieces by dockers hocks. The people could not easily have got out the way they came because there was a large number of people behind them. They would decidedly not have had to force the foot police to get out the way they came. (The witness's deposition taken before the magis
<lb/>trate was read: "They could have got away as they came, they could have forced the foot police. ") I never said that at the police court. Many tried to get away; they ran in all directions when the mounted men were alter them. I saw Luxon and Simson climb the gate at the same time as I first saw the flames. It would be quite unreasonable to say the crowd was pressed back into the dock, because there was no reason why they should not walk away along the High Street. If this had been a peaceable crowd I should have advised that the dock gates should be opened.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-150" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS HOWELL</persName> </hi>, 59, Wellington Road, Bethnal Green, carman to the G.E.R. On the afternoon of July 24 I was waiting in Nightingale Lane with a pair-horse G.E.R. van waiting to be loaded at the St. Katherine's Dock, when a procession came down. The processionists called out to the men working in the docks, "Come out, you blacklegs, scabs." They threw some matches out of a van. They seized my horse's head and backed the van against No. 8 gate. I tried to stop them, but they shoved me on one side and told me to get out of the way. They took a rope out of my van, fixed a hook on to it, and threw it on top of the gate. Some men then climbed on my van, up the rope, on to the top of he gate. Two disappeared on the other side; I could not recognise them. The men outside the gate shouted</p>
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<p>that there were two men in there, and that they wanted them out or else they would break the gates open. They shoved at the side of my van and tried to turn it over; I afterwards found a rope tied to the wheel.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I was not threatened nor assaulted. The second part of the procession stopped about Burr Street, about 80 yards past No. 8 gate. I saw the burning van after the lane had been cleared by the police, it was in the middle of the road. Ten minutes after I had been told that a van was on fire I saw the police with their truncheons driving the crowd towards Upper East Smithfield.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-151" type="given" value="HERBERT"/>HERBERT GRIMWOOD</persName> </hi>, carman to Ernest Clay, Old Kent Road. On the afternoon of July 24 I was driving a van laden, with cocoanut fibre through Nightingale Lane from the direction of Wapping High Street when I met a procession headed by a band at the corner of Burr Street. I saw a van being pushed up against No. 8 Gate. They called me a dirty rotten blackleg, said I ought to come down and not be at work, threatened to beat my brains out and burn the load. I looked round and saw the load was alight at the back. I tried to beat it out with a sack. The police threw the bales into the road and tried to put the fire out.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The procession was broken between Upper East Smithfield and Burr Street. I should think it was the traffic that broke the procession. I should think the procession was broken after the fire. Some of the crowd were being driven one way and others the other way.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t19121008-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t19121008-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t19121008-name-152" type="surname" value="PELL"/>
<interp inst="t19121008-name-152" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK PELL</persName> </hi>, 74, St. Katherine's Road, motor-driver to Yorke, Stoneham, and Jones, Bow Road. On the afternoon of July 24 I was going through Nightingale Lane towards Wapping with a motor lorry and trailer when I was stopped by No. 7 Gate by a procession,; I was in the tail end of the procession. I saw the police being reinforced by mounted men, and then the confusion seemed to start all of a sudden. A man jumped on my lorry, gave me a thump on the ear, put his arm round my neck, and tried to pull me off; I shoved him back on to the pavement. He called me a rotten swine for working while the other men were on strike. The crowd was riotous and upset the carmen in the road. Half a bottle which was thrown at me from the opposite of the road hit my engine above my head.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The procession was disorderly before it stopped. The reinforcements of police came from the direction of Tower Hill. There was some confusion before the police arrived; the confusion after the police arrived was caused by the police charring the crowd. The police dispersed the crowd north, up Nightingale Lane; while that was going on I saw no police at the top of Nightingale Lane; I was too far down to see. I could not see whether the police were driving the crowd towards the burning van.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t19121008-name-153" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-153" type="surname" value="HYETT"/>
<interp inst="t19121008-name-153" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HYETT</persName> </hi>, 3, St. Anne's Buildings, South Street, Walworth, carman. On July 24 at about 2.30 p.m. I was driving a covered van containing a miscellaneous load down Nightingale Lane towards Wap
<lb/>ping High Street, when I was stopped about three or four yards away from No. 8 Gate by a procession. About a dozen men climbed into my</p>
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<p>van and threw the goods out. I lost seven or eight packages. They were swearing and shouting, "Go in you blacklegs," to the men working in the docks. They backed a G.E.R. van against the gate, climbed on 10 it and got on to the gate by means of a rope. I did not resist them. They cut the near side rein and stole the girth of my horse.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. About 2, 000 men marched past No. 8 Gate. Before the police dispersed the crowd it was so thick that people could not move. The police drove all the people who were on the burning van side of No. 8 Gate down the lane; all those who were on the north side of No. 8 Gate they drove up the lane. I saw several men in the crowd struck by truncheons.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-154" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES KENT</persName> </hi>, 51, Brunswick Street, Hackney, carman to Pickford and Co., corroborated.</p>
<p>(Monday, October 14.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-31-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="postponed"/>A juror being unable to attend through illness, the case was post
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<p>(Wednesday, October 9.)</p> </div1>
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<p>(Refer to trial of these prisoners, with a third man Davis, at the September Session, page 538.)</p>
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<p>Mr. Cecil Whiley prosecuted.</p>
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<lb/>tion. She took the rent-book with her. I thought it would help her as a reference to get the money. She said she would not be long before she came back again. About 4.30 p.m. she returned with a woman, said she had got the bail, and returned the rent book. On leaving she said, "If anybody comes here, I am Mrs. schiffler." I never authorised her to represent herself as Mrs. schiffler or to enter into recognisances on my behalf.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. In August Roberts introduced you to me by the name of Powell and you said he was your husband.</p>
<p>(Thursday, October 10.)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FREDERICK HART</hi>, M Division. On September 20, John Roberts appeared before the magistrate at the Tower Bridge Police Court charged with larceny. He was remanded till the 26th, bail being fixed in one surety of £5. It was not forthcoming and he was taken to Brixton. Exhibit 2 was handed to me that afternoon. (An examination on oath of person offering herself as surety, stating that her name was Kate schiffler, that she lived at 39, Lambeth Road, being a weekly tenant at 26s. a week, and that she was worth £5. Signed, "Kate schiffler. ") Later I saw prisoner, who stated she was Kate schiffler. In the witness-box she swore to the statements she had made in Exhibit 2. She handed this rent book (Exhibit 1) to the magistrate, who accepted her as a surety.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES HALL</hi>, 24 M. On September 20 I was acting goaler at the Tower Bridge Police Court. Prisoner came in and gave</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBERT HEARN</hi>, M Division. On the afternoon of September 20 I went to Brixton Prison where I saw prisoner. I said to her, "Is your name Mrs. schiffler?"and she said, "Yes." I said, "Do you live at 34, Lambeth Road?"She said, "That is so." I said, "Enquiries have been made and I have reasons to be
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<p>Prisoner, called upon for her defence, stated that she did not wish to say anything.</p>
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<p>Mr. Cecil Whiteley prosecuted.</p>
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<lb/>gether. They started speaking to us; the woman said the man was her husband and that she had four children. Someone put a penny in the automatic piano. My husband said, "That is a very nice waltz. Shall we have it?"I put this bag (produced) on the counter behind John Roberts, and we waltzed to the end of the bar. The proprietor stopped us. As I came back I saw the bag being pushed first by the woman and then by the man to the place where I had put it. I opened the bag and found this little purse (produced) in the pocket of the bag upside down. Two half-crowns and a shilling which I had last seen when in the public-house were missing. I said to them, "One of you has got it." The woman said, "Do you accuse my husband?"I said, "Well, one of you has got it." She said, "Do you accuse me?"I said, "One of you has got it." She went out saying, "I will go out and fetch a constable," she never returned. Roberts said, "I don't know the woman." My husband went for a</p>
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<p>policeman and I followed him. Roberts followed, and the constable who was outside said we had all batter come to the station. On the way Roberts said, "I don't know this woman. I picked her up as a prostitute in the London Road."</p>
<p>Cross-examined by John Roberts. We were not dancing when you came in. I co not remember the proprietress stopping us when there was a man playing the piano; we were only stopped once by the pro
<lb/>prietor. We were not dancing there in the afternoon. You went quite voluntarily to the station: I saw you push the bag with your elbow. There were a number of people in the bar, but they were right up at the other end.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I last saw my money in the purse when prisoners were in the bar and while we were in conversation with them.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-169" type="given" value="THOMAS COFIELD"/>THOMAS COFIELD PARKER</persName> </hi>, husband of last witness, corroborated.</p>
<p>To John Roberts. We had not been dancing before you came in. We were in the bar that afternoon but we did not dance. There were a number of people in the bar that evening, but they were quite at the other end; the four of us were alone in the corner. I do not remember being stopped dancing twice that evening. When I spoke to the constable and you came out you did not attempt to get away. I did not while in the public-house see the money in my wife's purse, but I knew it was there because I had given it to her just before leaving home. I remember that she opened the bag to get her hand
<lb/>kerchief out, but I did not see her look in her purse. I was perfectly sober and capable of seeing you move the bag with your elbow.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-170" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DOLAN</persName> </hi>, manager, "Obelisk" public-house, St. George's Circus. On the evening of September 19 I was in the billiard room when in consequence of a communication made to me I went into the bar and saw Mr. and Mrs. Parker were waltzing. I stopped them. The male prisoner was standing and the female prisoner was sitting at the counter in the corner. When Mrs. Parker discovered her money was gone she accused both parties of taking it. The female prisoner, who became indignant, left the bar to fetch a constable. The rest were asked to leave and they left.</p>
<p>To John Roberts. When stopping the dancing I also stopped a man who was playing the piano. I cannot say whether my wife had stopped them once before. I know you as a casual customer. The neares tpeople to you, were two or three yards away.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS BAKER</hi>, 341 L. On the evening of Sep
<lb/>tember 19 I was called to the "Obelisk" public-house by Parker, who wanted me to take the name and address of male prisoner, who was present; he did not charge him with anything. I asked them all to come to the station, and on the way the male prisoner said he did not know the woman—only as a prostitute.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-171" type="given" value="LUCY"/>LUCY LAMBERT</persName> </hi>, 14, Lambeth Road. About seven weeks ago female prisoner, under the name of "Powell," took three rooms at my house and male prisoner came there as her husband; they remained five weeks.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-172" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROBERTS'S</persName> </hi> statement before the magistrate. "On the night this occurred they were more or less drunk. So was I. They danced three or four times. The missus stopped them once and the guv'nor had to come and stop them as they had started again."</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-173" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROBERTS</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath) repeated the statements he had made before the magistrate and added that he had not touched the bag in any way; it was true he had told a lie to the policeman as to his not having known the woman before, and he had to tell a further lie at the station to cover it up.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-174" type="given" value="KATE"/>KATE SCHIFFLER</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). I do not know anything about the bag.</p>
<p>Verdict (both),
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<p>John Roberts confessed to a previous conviction at Newington Ses
<lb/>sions on August 15 of this year, when he was sentenced to nine months' hard labour for larceny from the person. A conviction in 1908 for a similar offence was proved. He had refused to give any account of himself; he was stated to be an associate of prostitutes and a prosti
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<p>John Roberts, to refute the statement that he was a prostitute's bully, recalled Lucy Lambert, who stated that she had never known him to come in later than 1 a.m.</p>
<p>Sentences: Roberts,
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-35-19121008 t19121008-35-punishment-33"/>Schiffler, Nine months' hard labour on each indictment, to run concurrently</rs>.</p>
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<p>(Thursday, October 10.)</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">REYNOLDS</hi>, Edwin Frank (31, carpenter)</persName>, who pleaded guilty last Session (see page 526) of fraud, etc., was brought up for judgment.</p>
<p>Prisoner was released on his own recognisances in £10 to come up for judgment if called upon.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-39-19121008 t19121008-39-punishment-37"/>each on his own recognisances in £10 and his father's in £20, to come up for judgment if called upon</rs>.</p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. Ernest Wetton prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-187" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ROWE</persName> </hi>, Roland Gardens, South Kensington. I drew the cheque produced. The words "pay cash" and the signature across the cheque is a forgery. I made the cheque out for £8. The "0" making it £80 is not mine. I posted it to Wellington and Bowring on September 30 about 11 p.m. aft the pillar-box in Evelyn Gardens. On October 2 I was summoned to the bank. The cashier asked me in pri
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-188" type="given" value="NOEL"/>NOEL H. BOWRING</persName> </hi>, engineer, 220, Great Portland Street, W. I trade in the name of Wellington and Bowring. I did not receive the cheque. The endorsement was not made by me or with my authority.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-189" type="given" value="JOSEPH HILL"/>JOSEPH HILL GOODWIN</persName> </hi>, cashier, Bonk of scotland. On October 2, about 1.40 p.m., prisoner came to my counter and handed me this cheque. I was suspicious of the crossing, especially as I know Mr. Rowe pretty well, I made an excuse to prisoner that I was engaged for the moment. I then went and saw one of our managers and after
<lb/>wards phoned to Mr. Rowe, who came along. In reply to my questions he denied writing the signatures across the cheque, the "pay cash," and the "£80." In the manager's room I asked prisoner where he got the cheque. He said he got it from a man named Gillings in the "Victoria," King's Cross, in repayment of a loan of £4 which he had lent four yearns ago.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PRISONER</hi>. I told him I accepted it in lieu of a £4 bet, not a loan. Sergeant
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALFRED ANDERSON</hi>, City Police. On October 2 I was called to the Bank of scotland, 30, Bishopsgate Street, at about 2.20 p.m. I was accompanied by Inspector Chapman. Prisoner was there. The manager showed us the cheque. I told prisoner we were police officers and cautioned Mm. I then said, "Can you give us any explanation, how you received this cheque." He said, "I got the cheque from a man named Gillings at 11 this morning in the 'Victoria Hotel,' Penton
<lb/>ville Road. I had a row with Callings. He owed me £4 for a bet</p>
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<p>made at Hurst Park races four years ago. Gillings said, 'We don't want to quarrel, take this—that is the cheque—' and there is some
<lb/>thing in interest, for you.' I thought the cheque was for £8." He was then given into custody by the bank manager. On the way to the station he said to me, "I hope you will find this man Gillings; I had a fight with him in the long bar of the 'Victoria Hotel' before he gave me the cheque." At the station he said, "I thought the cheque was for £8. I have to meet Gillings at the 'Victoria Hotel' to-night at nine o'clock and give, him the balance." We went to 220, Great Portland Street, where we examined the letter-box and found it had been tampered with. Prisoner gave an address but we found that he had never lived there. I went with Inspector Chapman to the Victoria Hotel at 9 p.m. and waited till 10.30, but failed to find Gillings. We do not know who Gillings is. (Prisoner: I said to you, "It very nigh came to a fight." I did not say it did come to a fight. I said it would come to a fight; he told me he would pay me somewhere or another. They stopped it. He said, "Come outside and I will pay you. ") You said you had a fight. (Prisoner: I did not give you No. 6, Stanhope Buildings; I gave you No. 3. I lived there eight months. I have the lady in the house and three others to prove it.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-190" type="given" value="SIDNEY"/>SIDNEY T. JOHNSTONS</persName> </hi>, barman, "Victoria Hotel," Pentonville Road. On October 2 in the morning I was in the bar from 8.30 to 1.30. I do not remember prisoner coming in during that time. There was no disturbance during that time.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. I should have noticed if there had been any excitement, but not if it was only a second or two.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I know no one called Gillings.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-191" type="given" value="WILLIAM CHARLES"/>WILLIAM CHARLES LANE</persName> </hi> (prisoner on oath). On September 30, the date this cheque was supposed to have been delivered, I was in bed before 11 at night. Next morning was pension day. I daresay I came out between 8 and 9 next morning. I came down Stanhope Street where I live, and I met three pensioners whom I am going to call. We go in and have a drink. We draw our pension and went from one house to the other and are together all day till some time later in the afternoon. I do not know what time. I got intoxicated. I was taken home by these three men. They put me in the mangling room out of the way; then the landlord, landlady, and the lady living in the house took care of me and took me up to my room. I never came out till the following morning at 10 or half past. I felt bad and went in the "Graf ton" and asked for half a pint of ale. I only had 2d. on me. I went out again and walked to tire "Victoria." I was on my way to Mr. Irving, a builder and decorator, to see tie foreman named Gammon to see if there was any work going. I thought to myself, "I will go in the "Victoria" and have the other half pint, it might make me feel better." There were several men standing there, one was a man I knew by the name of Gillings, whom I had seen at different race meetings. I go to Epsom and Hurst Park once a year.</p>
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<p>I said to him, "Ain't your name Gillings?"He said, "I don't know you." I said, "You soon will." I got very excited. He said, "What for?"I said, "For the money you owe me for Hurst Park four years ago. You remember quite well—when I backed the second favourite when I had a pound at 3 to 1; you went away and I have not seen you since." He said, "Yes, I recollect the time quite well when you come to speak of the second favourite; keep quiet, I will pay you; come outside." I went outside, leaving the half pint of ale I called for on the counter not touched. When I got outside he showed me the cheque. He said, "I have got a cheque for £8 sent me by a client this morning; if you like to come with me as far as the City I will cash it and pay you." I said, "Very well." When we got to Gray's Inn Road I said, "Don't you think we had better ride? I have got no money." He said, "I think we will." Before the tram came up he pulled out his watch and said, "It is too late, I shall not be able to go down; I have to meet a friend at the Mid
<lb/>land," I understood at 11.35. He said, "I will tell you what I will do. You won't trust me, I will trust you; take this cheque to 30, Bishopsgate Street and cash it, and take the £4, and you can have a trifle for your trouble, and meet me at the "Victoria" at 9 to-night." I may tell you I have worn glasses for reading ever since I was 17. I glanced at the cheque and took it to be for £8. I folded it up and put it in my pocket and went to the bank. I swear I never tampered with the cheque. I had no knowledge where it came from. I am guilty of putting this cheque down under the impression that I was only doing an honest transaction to get my own money that was owing to me, so help my God.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The money had been owing to me four years. It was a bet I made with Gillinge at Hurst Park. I had not seen Gil
<lb/>lings in the meantime. I saw him only once previous to making the bet. That was two years before. I met him at the "Victoria" by pure accident. I know his name by his having it on a board at Hurst Park. I did not have drinks with him. I had a few words. I could not swear to the time he gave me the cheque; it would be about 11.35. I did not know the proper way to go to the bank. I went to Essex Road, called at Irving's, but did not see Mr. Gammon. I believe it was soon after one I got to the bank.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WALFORD</hi>. I have been a lavatory attendant and am pensioned off. Prisoner has been living in my house for perhaps more than seven or eight months. On October 1 he went out at a little after 8 a.m. It was pension day for the Militia or something of that sort. That is the reason I know the date. He came home again about 3.30 p.m. very drunk. He did not go out again. On October 2 I heard him go downstairs about 9.20 a.m. I did not hear him go out. I did not hear him go up.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I have never seen him wearing glasses. I do not go up in his room. My wife cleans his room. I do not see much of him. I know he went out at 9 a.m. on October 1 because I was hav
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<lb/>tember 30 he went to bed about 9.20 p.m.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LANE</hi> (prisoner's wife). I remember October 1. I was wash
<lb/>ing for my daughter at No. 1. She lives in the buildings and there is wirework in the washhouse so that you can see everyone that passes. I saw my daughter's little boy and he was crying, "There is a man lives in your house, he ain't half drunk." I thought it was an old gentleman instead of Mr. Lane. I saw him carried home that day at 3 p.m. I saw him at 12 and he had had some drink then. (To prisoner.) I have never seen you wear glasses. I think you asked me to lend my glasses once on a Sunday morning.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WALKER</hi>. I remember October 1. It was pension day. My husband is not a pensioner. I have seen drunken people about and they have told me it was pension day. Prisoner was a good deal under the influence of drink on October 1. They brought him home about 3.30 p.m. I have never seen him wear glasses. I do not know much of him.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-192" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS LANE</persName> </hi>. Prisoner is my cousin. I remember October 1 be
<lb/>cause I drew my reserve money at the post office that day. I saw prisoner that day. I met him as I was coming out of the post office somewhere about 10. I was with him all day till late in the after
<lb/>noon. I spent nearly all my pension with him. When he came out of the "Cock," in Stanhope Street, he fell down and I fell with him. We helped him home the best we could and left him there.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-193" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WARD</persName> </hi> corroborated.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MR. JUSTICE HORRIDGE</hi>.</p>
<p>(Friday, October 11.)</p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-41-offence-1 t19121008-name-195"/>Rosetta Legg</persName> with intent to murder her, or with intent to do her grievous bodily harm; feloniously shooting at the same person with the like intents.</rs> </p>
<p>Mr. Holford Knight prosecuted; Mr. Douglas Young defended.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-196" type="given" value="ROSETTA"/>ROSETTA LEGG</persName> </hi>, 14, Girler Street, Bromley. I have been walking out with prisoner for about two years; that came to an end on Sep
<lb/>tember 22 because my parents disapproved of it. Prisoner did not seem to take any notice of it when I told him. On September 30 about 7.15 a.m. I met him in Devas Street. He asked me if I would go into his parlour. I told him I could not stay long as I should be late for business. He said, "This will be the last time you will see me." I said, "Why? Are you going away?" He said he was going away in the afternoon to Australia." I told him I hoped he would get on all right. He said, "Is that all you have got to say?"I said "Yes." As I was saying good-bye to him he drew a revolver from his right-hand mackintosh pocket and shot at me, first in the head which seemed to stun me. I was right close to him. The second shot</p>
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<p>hit my right arm; there was then about two yards between us. I turned round and said, "Oh, is this your game?"He fired again and hit me in my mouth, knocking three teeth out and damaging my jaw. There was nobody between us when he fired the third time. I ran into the kitchen. I saw his sister Annie there.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Prisoner did not seem as though he was angry. He had no cause to be jealous. I was not in his house the day before this happened. I always treated him as a friend. There was no light in the parlour. I was not Surprised when he asked me to come home with him. He kissed me when he said good-bye. I did not see blackening or burning on my head. I was severely stunned. After the third shot I put my handkerchief up to my mouth and ran into the kitchen. I did not raise my arm; it was down at my side. I did not see his brother in the passage.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I had never quarrelled with prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-197" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE WISEMAN</persName> </hi>. On September 30 I came down about seven o'clock. I did not see my brother them. I heard Bosetta Legg and my brother talking in the parlour. I was in the kitchen. I heard a noise in the parlour and ran into the passage and Rosie Legg ran down the passage towards the washhouse door. My brother had something in his hand and it went off bang. Bosie Legg ran into the kitchen. I was standing between my brother and where Bosie Legg was. Rosie Legg was spitting blood from her mouth. I found the bullet (produced) in the kitchen after
<p>Cross-examined. The first noise I beard in the parlour was not like the second noise. I saw a flash with the second noise. I did not notice what position my brother's hand was in. The direction of the flash was down towards me.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-198" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WISEMAN</persName> </hi>, brother of prisoner. On September 30 I saw prisoner about nine in my house. He handed me the revolver (pro
<lb/>duced) and said, "Take this; I have shot at her," or something to that effect. He said, "What shall I do?"I told him to give himself up. He then went away. I was very upset. I took the revolver to the police station and handed it to Inspector Potter.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I did not examine the revolver when prisoner gave it to me. (To the Court.) Prisoner handed me the revolver at 159, St. Elenor Street; that is about two minutes' walk from where this happened.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBERT POTTER</hi>, K Division. At 10.50 a.m. on Septem
<lb/>ber 30 I saw the last witness at Bow Police Station; he handed me a small revolver. I examined it; it was fully loaded. There were five live bullets land one spent bullet in it. I smelt it after I had emptied it; it smelt the usual way of a weapon that had been discharged—a burnt smell. It was perfectly clean. When I took the spent bullet out I found that the trigger was closed upon one of the bullets.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I made a search of the house a short time after the occurrence; I found no bullet marks on any of the walls. I did not find any spent bullets.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-199" type="given" value="ARTHUR CLIFFORD"/>ARTHUR CLIFFORD DORNFORD</persName> </hi>, divisional surgeon, K Division. I examined Rosetta Legg on September 30. Her general condition was good. She had a slight contusion about the size of sixpence on the temple; a slight discoloration. On the inner surface of the right arm she had a slight abrasion and a slight contusion about an inch in cir
<lb/>cumference. She had a laceration of the jaw and three teeth knocked off: The wound on the temple was consistent with having been done by a bullet just going past it, but not so likely as the other one was. It could have been done by being hit with the barrel of the revolver. The wound on the right arm was consistent with a passing bullet. There was a corresponding hole in the dress caused by a bullet. The wound in the mouth is consistent with having been done by a bullet. They were not serious wounds.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The temple wound was merely a contusion. If it had been a revolver shot I think the skin would have been broken. If it had been caused by a shot at close proximity I should have expected to have found some singeing or discoloration, but it depends on the size of the revolver. This revolver is a very small one. I do not think there would have been much blackening. (To the Court.) Although the revolver is a small one it could kill at close quarters.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RICHARD NORRIS</hi>, K Division. On the morning of September 30 I saw prisoner in Barking Broadway. I told him I was a police officer and I should take him into custody for attempting to shoot Rosetta Legg, with intent to murder her, at 7.15 that morning. He replied, "I fired at her to frighten her. Is she hurt?"I con
<lb/>veyed him to Bow Police Station. When the charge was read over to him he said, "Right."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. He did not say, "I did it to frighten her; it fired." He said he fired at her to frighten her. I made my note at 20 minutes afterwards. There is nothing whatever known against prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-200" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED WISEMAN</persName> </hi> (prisoner on oath). I am 18 years of age. I have known prosecutrix for three years. I have never had any quarrel with her on any serious matter. I am very fond of her. When she broke it off with me I tried to make the best of it. I have met her several times between that and this occur
<lb/>rence. I met her on the Wednesday before in my parlour. I had not given up hopes that she would come back to me. On September 30 I met her in Cross Street. I nodded to her and she came over to me and we went to my home. I asked her to come in; we went into the parlour and we were on affectionate terms. There was no quarrel or anything until she said she was going; then everything seemed to go blank with me. I drew the revolver to frighten her. I knew it was loaded. When she saw the revolver she jumped up and ran into the passage; there was no shot at all. She ran down to the far end of the passage and my little sister came out of the kitchen and my</p>
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<p>younger brother came from off the stairs; he went to rush into the street, and as he did so he knocked my arm, and that was the cause of the shot which Miss Legge received. I had no intention of shooting her. I bought the revolver off a man in Mile End Road to sell to my employer (Woodcock) as he said he would like to get hold of one, liv
<lb/>ing on the premises by himself. I took it to work with me and showed it once or twice. Only one shot was fired. I have never had a revolver before. When the revolver went off my arm was down by my side. When Detective Norris arrested me he said, "You know what I want you for. Why did you want to do it?"I said, "I did it to frighten her."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. We have had slight quarrels. I asked her to come to my house because if she had been seen talking to me in the street her parents no doubt would have chastised her. She has been in my house once before since she broke it off. She knew I was going to Australia; I had told her the week before. I wanted to speak to her to see whether it would be any good waiting a few years. It was entirely a friendly conversation. I drew the revolver became I thought on her seeing it she might wait and go on keeping company with me. The revolver was in my hand but the shot that was fired was a pure accident. As my brother knocked my arm, so it jerked and the revolver went off. I did not tell the officer that my brother had knocked my hand; nor did I say so at the police court.</p>
<p>Re-examined. We kissed each other in the parlour. I am quite certain of the position my arm was in. (To the Court.) My younger brother would have "knocked my elbow, which would have jerked my arm up. I am not prepared to swear that I told anybody about my. brother knocking my arm. The man I bought the revolver from is a stranger to me.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-201" type="given" value="ROSETTA"/>ROSETTA LEGG</persName> </hi> recalled. (To the Court.) It is not true that pri
<lb/>soner's brother knocked his arm.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-202" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE WISEMAN</persName> </hi> recalled. (To the Court.) Before the shot was fired I saw my young brother bash into prisoner as he was going to the street door.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-203" type="given" value="ALBERT EBENEZER"/>ALBERT EBENEZER WOODCOCK</persName> </hi>. Prisoner has been in my employ for about five years. In my view he is a respectable, honest, and straight-forward young fellow. A couple of days previous to what happened I had this revolver in my hand. My brother-in-law was thinking of buying a revolver. Prisoner said he was going to try and sell it to him.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. When I saw this revolver it was fully loaded Prisoner said he bought it because he had heard my brother-in-law 6ay be wanted one.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19121008-41a-offence-1 t19121008-name-205"/>Philip Carty</persName> </rs>. Mr. Forrest Fulton prosecuted; Mr. Warburton defended.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-206" type="given" value="ROSE"/>ROSE FAEELEIGH</persName> </hi>. I knew the deceased man Carty; I had been living with him for about three weeks. I have known prisoner about three months. On September 9 about 8.45 p.m. I went to the "Fountain" public-house, Garratt Lane, Tooting, with prisoner. He went in to get the drinks and I remained outside. Carty came out of the public-house. He said to prisoner, "F—you, she is mine; I have got her now." and he put his fingers in prisoner's chest. Prisoner laughed and said, "How do you know she is not mine?"Deceased then went to hit me. I said, "If you hit me, Phil, I will call a policeman and have you locked up." Prisoner said, "Don't hit her, hit me." Pri
<lb/>soner hit him under the chin; deceased fell down on the back of his head. Prisoner then went away. I saw him again about two o'clock in the morning. I said, "Do you know that Phil is in the hospital?" He said, "Why, what did he want to poke me in the chest and f—me and go to hit you. If I have hit him, I have hit him."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I do not think deceased struck a blow at prisoner; it was rather a shove; deceased was certainly angry. I was rather frightened because I thought deceased was going to strike me. When prisoner said, "Don't hit her; hit me," deceased showed signs of violence towards both of us. I was not on good terms with deceased.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-207" type="given" value="MARY LENA"/>MARY LENA LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>. On September 9 I was passing the "Fountain" public-house. I saw the last witness and prisoner standing outside. A young man came out of the middle bar using obscene language. He went towards prisoner and poked him in the chest, and said, "F—you; I am going to do it on you." With that prisoner struck him. Prisoner ran away down Fountain Road, and the woman after him.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. It was a dark night. There were a few people about. I did not hear last witness say, "If you hit me I will call a policeman."</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-208" type="given" value="AMELIA"/>AMELIA SILVER</persName> </hi>. On September 9 I saw deceased come out of the "Fountain" public-house. I saw prisoner and the woman out
<lb/>side. Deceased went up and spoke to prisoner and the woman; then he went back again and then he came out again and stood at the side of the woman; prisoner hit him and She fell back on his head. I did not hear anything pass between them. I was standing close to them. Deceased had his hands in his pockets at the time.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I did not hear deceased say, "F—you" to pri
<lb/>soner. I did not see him push prisoner. I did not hear prisoner say "Don't strike her, strike me." I was passing by at the time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GEORGE NICHOLLS</hi>, B Division. On September 10 I went with other officers to 13, Khartoum Road. I went to the ground-floor flat to find prisoner. I went out into the back garden, and in the W.C. I found prisoner sitting with his clothes done up. I said to him, "What are you doing here?"He said, "Relieving myself." I said, "But your trousers are done up." He made no reply. I took him into the kitchen. In the kitchen was the witness Fareleigh. I told prisoner I was a police officer, and said, "It is alleged that you struck a man called Carty, or 'Ganger,' on the jaw last night outside the 'Fountain' public-house; he died this morning, and I shall</p>
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<p>arrest you for manslaughter." Prisoner made no reply. I cautioned him, and a few moments afterwards he said, "Ginger came up to me outside the 'Fountain,' and said, 'F—you,' land pushed me; then he went to hit her and I hit him on the jaw and knocked him down and went away." I took prisoner to Wandsworth Common Police Station, where he was charged. In reply to the charge he said, "Yes, all right."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PERCY JOHN SPENCER</hi>, 86, Garratt Lane, S.W. On September 9 I was called to the deceased man. I found him lying on his back in the street; he was semi-conscious. I examined him and found a wound at the back of his head from which blood was coming, and he had a fractured jaw on the left side, just behind the angle of the jaw. The wound at the back of the head was caused by the fall. The fracture might have proceeded from a blow; I should say a severe blow.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-209" type="given" value="WILLIAM LEONARD"/>WILLIAM LEONARD CORMACK</persName> </hi>, medical superintendent, St. James's Infirmary. The deceased was brought to the infirmary at 11.15 p.m. on September 9. He was bordering on complete unconsciousness; he slightly resisted, did not understand; could not give his name, and did not at any time speak after admission. There was a fracture of the lower jaw on the left side through the angle. There was a wound over the back of the head. He had a series of convulsions after admission, became completely unconscious, and died at 7.45 the following morning. The blow on the jaw was a severe one.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-210" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BROWN</persName> </hi>. At 8.30, on September 9, I was with deceased in the "Fountain" public-house. "Prisoner came in after we had been there about a quarter of an hour. Prisoner went out first and deceased after him. There was no quarrel. When I went out it "was all over; there was a crowd there, and deceased lay on his back.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Deceased was not drunk, but he had been drink
<lb/>ing; he was very excited. I heard deceased say, "If prisoner and her come down to-night I will do it on him and her, too. I will see he shan't have her." I was anxious to get him away.</p>
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<interp inst="t19121008-name-211" type="given" value="ERNEST"/>ERNEST DARLING</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I used to live with this woman; when she left me she said she was going home, but she went to live with deceased. On the Monday morning this happened I came down as far as the "Fountain" public-house for a stroll. I met the last witness, Brown, and Fareleigh. I went in to get a drink for her and she stayed outside. I did not notice deceased in the public-house. I came out. All of a sudden out rushes deceased. He said, "She is mine now." I laughed, I thought it was a joke. I said, "I thought she was mine." I did not take any notice; I did not want to have any row with him. I turned round and I heard, Rose say, "If you do that to me I will give you in charge." He pushed me in the chest and said, "F—you." I said, "Don't hit her, hit me." I saw his hand move and I just hit him on the</p>
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<p>jaw and knocked him down. I thought he was going to hit me and I hit out to defend the woman.</p>