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<p>1910, APRIL (2).</p>
<p>Vol. CLII.] Part 907.</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>KNILL, MAYOR.</p>
<p>Shorthand Writers to the Court.</p>
<p>EDITED BY</p>
<p>[Published by Annual Subscription.]</p>
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<p>On the King's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Tuesday, April 26th, 1910, and following days.</p>
<p>Before the Right Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-1" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN KNILL</persName> </hi>, Baronet,
<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; the Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-4" type="given" value="ALFRED JAMES"/>ALFRED JAMES NEWTON</persName> </hi>, Bart.; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">W.
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-5" type="given" value="VAUGHAN"/>VAUGHAN MORGAN</persName> </hi>, Bart., Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOS. BOOR CROSBY</hi>, Knight, M. D.; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">GEO. J. WOODMAN</hi>, Knight; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">REGINALD E. JOHNSTON</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-6" type="given" value="FORREST"/>FORREST FULTON</persName> </hi>, Knight, K.C., Recorder of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-7" type="given" value="FK ALBERT"/>FK. ALBERT BOSANQUET</persName> </hi>, K.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; His Honour Judge
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-8" type="given" value="LUMLEY"/>LUMLEY SMITH</persName> </hi>, K.C., Commissioner, His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-9" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ROLL</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RALPH SLAZENGER</hi> Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">J. D. LANGTON</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">W. J. B. TIPPETTS</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">KNILL, MAYOR. SEVENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>.</p>
<p>(Tuesday, April 26.)</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">RICHMAN</hi>, Jacob (40, boot manufacturer)</persName>, having been found guilty at the February Sessions (see preceding volume, page 502) of two offences of making transfers of property to defraud his creditors and three offences of not discovering to the trustee administering his estate parts of his personal property, and such conviction having been confirmed by the Court of Criminal Appeal, was now brought up and sentenced to Two months' imprisonment, second division.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19100426-6-offence-1 t19100426-name-27"/>Alfred Mander</persName>, an officer of the Metropolitan Police, while in the execution of his duty.</rs> Lane further
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<p>Mr. Bohn prosecuted.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANK PIKE</hi>, X Division. I produce the formal consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions as regards this charge. On April 18 I served both prisoners with notice. On reading it to Lane he said, "Associate with thieves! Who am I to associate with—Prime Ministers?" Ladleigh said, "Thank you."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS TUCKEY</hi>, Wormwood Scrubs Prison. I was present at the North London Sessions on February 5, 1901, when Lane was convicted of obtaining money by false pretences and sentenced to 18 months' hard labour. I was at the same Court on January 6, 1903, when he was convicted of felony and sentenced to four years' penal servitude. At the same Court on July 10, 1906, he was convicted of burglary and sentenced to three years' penal servitude and two years' police supervision; he has 221 days' supervision left. As regards Ladleigh, I was present at the North London Sessions on March 4, 1902, when he was sentenced to nine months' hard labour for felony after a previous conviction. On December 11, 1905, he was convicted at this Court of robbery with violence in the name of Brown and sen
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM CRIDLAND</hi>, H Division. On August 10, 1901, Ladleigh was sentenced at the Thames Police Court to three months' hard labour for stealing in the name of James Harris.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANK PIKE</hi> (recalled). As a result of my inquiries I have learnt that Lane's reputation is very bad; he is an habitual thief and lives entirely on the proceeds of crime. He is a constant associate of thieves. When he came out on November 23 he received £15 from Lloyd's Newspaper Company for an account of his escape from Gloucester Prison; that is the only honest money he has earned. Ladleigh has also a very bad reputation; he has lived entirely by crime since his release from prison and is a constant associate of thieves. From October 9 to 30 last he worked for Bone, a tailor, of 68, Merton Street, Stratford, and he left there because, he said, he could not earn enough to keep himself. Inquiries have been made and Bone states that he paid him £2 17s. during that period and that he could have had permanent work there, but he rejoined his old associates.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Ladleigh. Sergeant Burrell made the inquiries from Bone.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM BURRELL</hi>, X Division. Bone told me that he paid the £2 17s. to Ladleigh in various sums between October 9 and 30, just as he required them and as he completed the work.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-31" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK LANE</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). A man on ticket of leave has no chance of obtaining employment; the police will get you out. The only money I have been able to get since I have been out is the £15 from "Lloyd's Newspaper."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-32" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT LADLEIGH</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). I got this situation at the tailor's by saying that I was discharged from the Army or I should not have got it. I had to agree to take 15s. a week, working from 8 a.m. to 8.30 p.m. Some weeks I only got 12s. and the other 8s. was held over; Mr. Bone would say he was short of money. I had to pay 8s. a week for a furnished room and 4d. a day for my fare, and I could not possibly live without starving. When I left there I borrowed some money from my brother-in-law and tried to do a little bit in the jobbing line. A police officer came and saw the things and I can prove it. As for being an habitual criminal, I was in the Army for nine months in between two of my convictions, and previous to that I was in employment in several places. I have written for the characters, but I have no means of getting people here to prove them. I have tried to obtain honest employment right throughout my life. They say I have always been an associate of thieves. I was not an associate of thieves when I was in the Army for nine months.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANK PIKE</hi> (recalled). At the request of both prisoners I interviewed them in Brixton Prison and invited them to give me particulars of what they had been doing since they came out of prison. Lane admitted to having been born in 1875 and Ladleigh in 1882. Lane would be 16 in 1891 and his first conviction was in 1901. Ladleigh would be 16 in 1898 and his first conviction was in 1896.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by Prisoner Lane. According to this record you said 1875 and not 1879; it makes no difference for this purpose.</p>
<p>Ladleigh having repeated his former statements, added: Between 1900 and 1901 I worked as a carman for two months. I have written for my characters, but they have not come, not having sufficient time. I applied to the governor especially to write three letters for them. I wrote one to the Army and two to private firms for whom I have worked. I have had precious little chance of finding honest employ
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<p>Sentences, Lane and Ladleigh,
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<p>Previous convictions proved: February 22, 1895, sent to industrial school; February 27, 1899, bound over for stealing; October 22, 1900, at this Court, 12 lashes and 12 months' hard labour, robbery with violence; October 1, 1901, North London Sessions, 18 months' hard labour for receiving; February 12, 1904, five years' penal servi
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<p>Mr. Pickersgill, M. P., prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-37" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SHIRLEY</persName> </hi>, cashier to the Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, Northumberland Avenue. On April 8, at 1.30 p.m., pris
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<p>prisoner, "This coin is bad." He said, "I did not know it." I said, "You did; you were in here last Friday and gave a bad coin." He said, "I have never been in this place "before" I said, "It is false; you have been in before." He said, "Well, I was some time ago, but not last Friday." I said, "You were in here last Friday and we can prove it and you gave a similar coin then. I shall have to charge you." He said, "Do so." I then sent for a constable and he was charged.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM LANCASTER</hi>, 198 A. On April 15 I took prisoner into custody, the last witness having charged him with trying to pass a bad five-shilling piece. Prisoner said nothing. On the way to the station he said, "I got it from the 'Oakley' public-house, King's Cross, last Saturday night."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FREDERICK DAWSON</hi>, A Division. On April 15, at 2.30 p.m. prisoner was brought to Cannon Bow Police Station. He said to me, "I got the five-shilling piece at the 'Oakley' public-house last Saturday night. The barmaid gave it to me in change for a half-sove
<lb/>reign." I searched him and found 4s. 0 1/4 d. upon him. He gave as his address, Rowton House, King's Cross." I found he had stayed there the previous night.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-39" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE EDMONDS</persName> </hi>, barmaid, "Oakley Arms" public-house, Goswell Road. I know prisoner as a customer and saw him in the bar on Saturday, April 9, at about 12 p.m. I have no recollection of chang
<lb/>ing a coin for him. If a half-sovereign were tendered to me I should ring it through the gold till and that brings out change in silver—one half-crown, two two-shilling pieces, three shillings, and a sixpence. It is quite impossible for the till to deliver a five-shilling piece. Any crown pieces received are delivered to the manager and not paid out in change.</p>
<p>To Prisoner: I should go to another till to change the sixpence and ring in the price of the drink. I never use the money from that till for change.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-40" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>, H. M. Mint. The two crowns produced are counterfeit, of different dates, and not very well made.</p>
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<p>Convictions proved: Mansion House, October 10, 1904, 14 days; May 26, 1905, four months' hard labour; November 8, 1905, four months' for stealing; Guildhall, April 9, 1906, six months' for steal
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<p>Mr. Pickersgill, M. P., prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-43" type="given" value="ELIZABETH MAY"/>ELIZABETH MAY PUGH</persName> </hi>, wife of Edward Pugh, 7, Cambridge Road, Bethnal Green, dairyman. On April 1, 1910, between 6 and 6.20 p.m. prisoner came into my shop and asked me to oblige him with £2 worth of silver. After looking in the till I told him I had only 20s. to spare. He said, "Please try and make it 30s." I took 30s. from the cash box and handed them to prisoner. He put what appeared to be three half sovereigns on the counter with the heads uppermost. I examined them and noticed that two were very shiny. Prisoner had gone. I saw him from the window running away. I found two of the coins were gilded sixpences (produced). My husband gave information. The same night I was called to the police station and picked prisoner out from among several men.</p>
<p>Cross-examined I did not say I had only seen prisoner's back; I gave him the money across the counter. No one told me that prisoner was the second man from the end.</p>
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<lb/>reign and what appeared to be two half sovereigns. I said, "Give them to me; I will go and see if I have got it." He handed me the coins. I noticed the two half sovereigns were bright in colour and different to the sovereign and gave them to my employer.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-45" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HUGHES</persName> </hi>, 45, Cambridge Road, dairyman. On April 1, at 10.20 p.m., Carey handed to me a good sovereign and two gilded Jubilee sixpences (produced). I went into the shop, saw the prisoner, and said, "Where do you come from?" He said, "Round the corner from the public house from a man named Towse." I said, "I do not believe you. I want to know who sent you." He said, "To tell you the truth a bootmaker" (I understood him) "sent me." I said, "I do not care who it is, I want to see the man before I give you these back." He said, "Well, I will tell you the truth; a bookmaker sent me for £2 worth of silver." I said again, "I do not care where you come from—I will not give you these coins back unless I see the man that sent you, or else I shall send for the police." I then sent the boy for a policeman and gave prisoner in charge. Prisoner said, "What is the matter with the coins?"</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Prisoner did not attempt to run away. I stood at the door and the police-constable came in two or three minutes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PERCY BITTON</hi>, 526 J. On April 1 I was called to Hughes's shop and saw prisoner. Hughes said, "This man came into my shop and asked my assistant for £2 worth of silver, for which he tendered a genuine sovereign and two gilded sixpences." Prisoner said nothing. I asked him where he got them from. He said, "The landlord of the 'White Hart' down the road gave them to me to get</p>
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<p>£2 worth of silver." I took him to the station, searched him, and found £1 10s. in gold, £1 8s. in silver, and 10 1/2 d. in bronze, good money. On the way to the station he said, "The bloke at the 'White Hart, did not give them to me. I got them off a bookie I work for. did not know they were crook." Later on the prisoner was placed among eight other men and picked out by Mrs. Pugh. No one said to her, "Two from the end"—she picked him out entirely from her own knowledge.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-46" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>, His Majesty's Mint. Four coins produced are Jubilee sixpences gilded to pass for half sovereigns.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-47" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOLMES</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). On Easter Monday, March 28, I went to Kempton Park races, backed a horse at 12 1/2 to 1, and received £13 10s. in 10 sovereigns, five half sovereigns, and £1 of silver. Amongst the five half sovereigns I received must have been the two gilded sixpences I tendered to Carey. On April 1 I had bought a greengrocer's stall and wanted the change to buy vegetables at Covent Garden the next morning.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I never went to Pugh's shop and never saw Mrs. Pugh until she came to the station—she was standing by the side of Mr. Hughes, who prompted her. to pick me out. I denied that I had been in the shop. I had been drinking at the beerhouse and trying to get the change, but they had not got it, so I mentioned their name to Hughes. I said it was for the public-house, which was not true. I told the officer that I had got it from a bookmaker. I did not say the bookmaker had sent me for change.</p>
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<p>Conviction proved: November 3, 1907, Old Street Police Court, one month's hard labour for stealing glasses from a public-house.</p>
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<p>(Wednesday, April 27.)</p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. Eustace Fulton prosecuted.</p>
<p>The Jury were sworn to give a true verdict as to whether the pri
<lb/>soner who stood indicted for the above felony was insane, so that he could not be tried.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-51" type="given" value="SIDNEY REGINALD"/>SIDNEY REGINALD DYER</persName> </hi>, medical officer, Brixton Prison. I have had prisoner under observation since March 6. His grandmother died in an asylum, his father was a heavy drinker and his eldest brother committed suicide. Prisoner himself says that for some years he has been subject to frequent attacks of a burning sensation on the top of his head and for those periods he gets very depressed and melancholic; he loses his memory and wants to fight everybody and be by himself. He does not drink. He says that he has always been on affectionate terms with his brother, but that the latter's incapacity for work has been a chronic worry to him, and on March 13 he made up his mind they should both die and that he would kill his brother first and then himself. This intention passed away, but on the day of the alleged offence he states this burning feeling in his head came again and he was thinking a good deal about his brother's incapacity to work through spinal disease, and, as he was afraid something would happen to him, either that he would commit suicide or die, he thought it best to kill him. His condition during the time he was in Brixton was that he was always very depressed, sitting by himself in the corner of the hospital ward away from all other patients and talking to none. He is self-absorbed and entirely resistent to his environment. His speech is slow and betrays effort. His memory is defective and he is untidy and careless in dress and personal cleanliness. Like all melancholics, his attention fails for external things and is centred on subjective thoughts and feelings of a dismal kind. He suffers a good deal from sleeplessness and when spoken to on the subject of his offence seems in no way to appreciate the gravity of it and treats the whole matter with indifference, displaying no emotion or regret. His general mental condition is confused and nebulous. After careful examination of him and a study of all the facts, I am of opinion that he is at present insane and has been so during the time that he has been under my observa
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<p>Mr. Roome prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-54" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET BEVILLE</persName> </hi>, 19, North Wharf Road, Paddington Green. Prisoner is my husband. He came in at 12 midday on April 6. I thought he looked angry, but he did not say anything. He wanted some beer and I gave him twopence and he went and got a pint. After that he wanted more and he had another pint. He still wanted more and I said, "You have had enough. You will have your dinner in</p>
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<p>a few minutes," and I began to lay the cloth. I put a knife on the table and I turned round to go to the cupboard when I heard the table pushed. I turned round and he sprang up, took the knife and drew it right across my throat. It was done in an instant; there was no quarrel. He ran out of the room and gave himself up. I screamed and rushed out and I met Mrs. Cox's little boy on the stairs. Mrs. Cox came and was bathing my throat when the constable came. After I was bandaged up I was taken to St. Mary's Hospital. I was told the wound was five inches long and two inches deep. I was detained at the hospital till 3 or 4 p.m. The constable took me to the Harrow Road Police Station, where I gave my name. I have been an out
<lb/>patient for three weeks and I still have to wear a bandage round my neck.</p>
<p>To the Judge. When he has had beer he is very strange. I have often said that I think there must be something wrong with him. It is not the quantity he takes—a little upsets him; he is quite mad with it, and very quarrelsome. When there is no drink about a better man could not breathe.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-55" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER COX</persName> </hi>. I am 14 years old and live in the same house as prisoner. On April 6 I saw his wife screaming and bleeding from the neck. I brought my mother to her and then a policeman. I do not know if prisoner has used my name; I used to call him "Mr. Beville."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT BROWN</hi>, F Division. On April 6 prisoner rushed into the police station in-a very excited condition and said, "I have murdered my old woman. Send a copper to see at once to 19, North Wharf Road. I have cut her throat." I immediately went to that address and found prisoner's wife with a large gash in her throat. I bandaged her and removed her to the hospital. When charged prisoner said, "It's a pity it's not someone else. I am sorry for my wife. I could not control myself. I had to do it to someone. If I get out of this I will do it to them in the house. It does not matter about the missus; she is out of it." When the charge was read over to him he said, "It's only a matter of form."</p>
<p>To the Judge. He behaved in a very peculiar manner before the magistrate; he ground his teeth in a terrible manner and he was all of a shake.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-56" type="given" value="GEORGE STANLEY"/>GEORGE STANLEY THOMPSON</persName> </hi>, Casualty House Surgeon, St. Thomas's Hospital. I examined the prosecutrix, who was brought into the hos
<lb/>pital on April 6. There was a long, deep incised wound on the left side of the neck parallel with the jaw. It was about one and a half to two inches in depth and about five or six inches long. There was no bleeding at the time. The lower jaw was exposed. Part of the violence of the blow had evidently been expended on the lower jaw, otherwise more serious injury would have resulted.</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate. "No, and I will call no witnesses."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-57" type="given" value="SIDNEY REGINALD"/>SIDNEY REGINALD DYER</persName> </hi>, medical officer, Brixton Prison. Prisoner has been under my observation since April 6. He is subject to what I consider to be homicidal mania. This is not the first attempt he</p>
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<p>has made on his wife. On more than one occasion he has attempted to commit suicide. His mother and one sister are in an asylum. He has been drinking excessively of late years, which I have no doubt has brought out this insanity. At these periods he shakes all over and absolutely cannot control his actions. This loss of control, I think, is due to a mental disease, and he is a very dangerous man. Only on Sunday last he wrote a letter in which he threatened that directly he got out he would kill several people. My opinion is that when he committed this act he really was insane and did not know what he was doing. When sober he is a pleasant man; he is very fond of his wife.</p>
<p>Prisoner. Drink ain't the fault of it.</p>
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<p>Mr. Travers Humphreys prosecuted; Mr. Thorne defended.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-60" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS STEPHENSON</persName> </hi>, 131, Tate Street, St. George's-in-the-East. Prisoner is my daughter. When this happened she was in service as a domestic servant. She worked out in the day and came home to sleep. On March 19 she went to bed, I should think, at 12 or a little after. I was awakened by my younger daughter between four and five a.m. and I went downstairs to the w.c. in the yard. The door was half open and I saw my daughter sitting on the seat in her nightdress. She yelled, "Father, father!" It seemed as though her eyes were coming out of her head. I noticed some blood on the stones outside the w.c. I went and told my wife to come down to her and then went to fetch the doctor.</p>
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<lb/>ing of March 19 she went to work and came home about eight p.m. She went out for a little walk and came home about 10. She went to bed about 11.45. I did not notice anything the matter with her. About 4.30 or five the next morning I was called by my husband and went downstairs into the yard. I found my daughter sitting on the seat of the w.c, holding in her arms a newly-born baby wrapped up in one of her flannel petticoats. She seemed rather dazed, as though she was silly, and she was crying a great deal. I asked her what was the matter, but she still kept on crying. I took her into the kitchen and asked who the father was and she told me. The child was quite dead and I noticed a little blood on its mouth. She said it was born down the w.c. pan and that she had pulled it out by the arm and that the child cried a little. I took her upstairs and put her to bed. I think the child was dry. There was a little water in the w.c. pan, but not much.</p>
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<p>To the Judge. I had no idea my daughter was with child; she had been going about doing her work up to this day. Two more of my children besides Mary Ann slept with my daughter, but they heard nothing of it.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I do not think I said at the police-court: "There was no water in the w.c. pan downstairs nor in the upstairs."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FREDERICK WENSLEY</hi>, H Division. I charged the prisoner with the murder of her child at the close of the inquest and she said, "I understand."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I have made inquiries about her, and she is the daughter of highly respectable parents, and, so far as I have ascer
<lb/>tained, she was a very respectable girl herself. She left school when she was 14 and she has been continuously in domestic service since.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-62" type="given" value="JEROME JOSEPH"/>JEROME JOSEPH REIDY</persName> </hi>, surgeon, 314, Commercial Road. At about 7.30 a.m., on March 20, I was called to 131, Tate Street, where I found prisoner in bed. She had some blood on her nightdress and legs and was very depressed—crying. The afterbirth had not come away; the cord was torn across. In the kitchen I saw the body of a full-time female child. It had been born from two to three hours. The body was dry, including the head, which was covered with dust, especially at the back, as if it had been on the floor. Blood was issu
<lb/>ing from the nose and mouth. On March 22 I made a post-mortem examination. The child was about the average weight and size. There were a number of small abrasions and bruises about different parts of the body, which, however, had nothing to do with the cause of death; they may have been caused by the fall. I found a superficial bruise on the right side extending to the back of the head. Beneath the skull on the brain was an effusion of blood, which corresponded with this bruise. It was a very serious bruise and of itself sufficient to cause death by compression of the brain; the shortest time in which it could have caused the death would be, perhaps, half an hour. It might have been caused by the child falling into the w.c. pan while its mother was sitting upon the seat. I found by the usual tests that it had had an independent existence. There were some bruises on the front of the neck and also some scratches and two superficial wounds on either side of the windpipe, perhaps caused by the finger nails. These wounds and scratches were not serious. I do not think the two super
<lb/>ficial wounds had any effect on the life of the child. At the back of the mouth on the left side I found an irregular, jagged wound about an inch long, and on the right side a gaping penetrated wound. The posterior wall of the pharynx was lacerated. On opening into the neck I found the windpipe was torn across and there was a large amount of the blood effused into the tissues of the neck. These inju
<lb/>ries were serious and would have caused death. I do not think they could have been caused by anything accidental outside the mouth; they must have been caused by something thrust down the throat; the nails on the fingers would have been sufficient. In my opinion they were probably caused during the life of the child; that is my theory. I cannot tell for certain by looking at the wounds. The wound on the back of the head was caused during delivery. The</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. I have known prisoner fairly well for two years. Apart from this she is quite a respectable girl. It is a difficult matter to tell in the case of a child born half an hour exactly when the injuries were received and when death took place.</p>
<p>To the Judge. If the injuries to the mouth and the throat were caused immediately after death there would be no definite signs by which you can tell whether they were before or after death; there would be a certain amount of blood in either case. As far as I could tell, there was no more blood here than there would be in either case. In attempting to assist the birth of her child prisoner would be in very great pain and in a state of frenzy.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. I do not know that you set the fire.</p>
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<p>me to prison, so that when I come out I am deprived of the means for two months of earning an honest living through people calling me a thief. Not only that, but they must go and open my private letters which were sent to me at the above address. I used to live there on a sack of straw in my bed at night. After all that and besides robbing me of 6s. every week out of my wages, I thought it was high time I should have a go at them in the same manner. So as drunk as I was mad I somewhow managed to get over into the stables, in spite of two police officers who were standing outside the door at the moment. At 1.55 in the morning I went away with the thought that I had played the Guy Fawkes and the sight of the fire seemed to sober me, but still I did not tell a single soul what I had done until late on Friday night, when something compelled me to go and give myself up to the police, who kept me in charge for the night. But what I plead guilty to is a different thing to what I plead unguilty to, and that is the evidence given against me by a couple of liars who knew nothing whatever about the fire until they were told how it came alight by the police. So when they heard I was in charge for firing their stables I daresay they thought they would have a good grudge against me. I gave the game away in Old Street Police Court about their putting water in the milk which they sold by contract to the public, so you see they saw their chance and quaked at it like a couple of pigs, but they are wrong, for they know nothing—simply what they learnt from the police. Let them beware of me in the future, for I am becoming dangerous against people who injure me with lying stories. And let them all remember that if I am deaf I am also clever. This is all I have to say against my case, but nevertheless it is the solemn truth. (Signed) Carl Edward Green. This is my statement written by my own hand."</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by Prisoner. You were a first-class constable in the City Police for about nine years and you have been rewarded for saving life from fire.</p>
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<p>Mr. Travers Humphreys, Mr. Boyd, and Mr. Mercer prosecuted.</p>
<p>Mr. C. F. Gill, K.C., and Mr. Abinger defended Bernard and Reece Snyder.</p>
<p>Mr. W. H. Leycester defended Wollman.</p>
<p>Bernard Snyder
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-111" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER BARBER</persName> </hi>, 35, Duke's Avenue, Chiswick. I formerly carried on a stationer and newsagent's business at 194, High Street, Chis
<lb/>wick, which in November, 1908, I sold to the female prisoner, Reece Snyder, for £275 for the goodwill and the stock at a valuation. I received in cash £190, leaving £200 to be paid—£25 the first quarter and £15 each succeeding quarter. The subsequent payments have been made to date and there is now-due £115. My daughter remained for some time to assist and show Reece Snyder how to conduct the business.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. It was a good substantial business, well worth the amount paid for it. The retail business seems to have been doing fairly well since.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-112" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES C. WATTS</persName> </hi>, clerk to E. and H. Roddick, house and estate agents, 41, Turnham Green Terrace. In September, 1909, I saw Ber
<lb/>nard and Reece Snyder and let to Reece Snyder for storage purposes Kensington Hall, Turnham Green Terrace.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-113" type="given" value="HARRY"/>HARRY Y. MERCER</persName> </hi>, manager to Halse and Co., Turnham Green, estate agents. On May 11, 1909, Bernard Snyder hired from me stable, 2, Terrace Mews, Turnham Green. I did not see Reece Snyder in the matter.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-114" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC NATHAN</persName> </hi>, traveller to Strong and Hanbury, 196 and 197, Upper Thames Street, paper merchants. In July, 1909, I had three transactions with Reece Snyder amounting to £48 0s. 2d., which were duly settled. In June, 1909, I had a conversation with Bernard Snyder. He told me he was about to create a wholesale branch for the supply of wrapping papers and brown paper to the trades people in the neighbourhood in small quantities and that it would be necessary to have a very large stock on hand. He described the means by which he meant to dispose of the goods, and it appeared to me, as a business man, a very probable way of carrying on a business. He proposed sending them out daily in a van to meet people's requirements from shop to shop. On July 26 Reece Snyder ordered 20 tons of ochre glaze paper at £9 10s., to be cleared within 12 months. On August 9</p>
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<p>she ordered 30 tons of Kraft brown at £14 15s. per ton, to be delivered at intervals. Deliveries were made, and on January 10, 1910, there was due £217 15s. 11d. I only received one payment of £20 on No
<lb/>vember 26. On November 29 I saw Reece Snyder and told her the account was getting bigger than we anticipated and asked her to settle it. On November 30 I issued a writ for £29 4s., balance of the month's account. Exhibit 56 is a description of our delivery of Octo
<lb/>ber 28, which consisted of 50 reams Kraft, 29 by 45, 6,890 1b. at £14 15s. per ton—£45 7s. 5d. Our packages would have our name and mark upon them.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-115" type="given" value="JEAN MARIE"/>JEAN MARIE CORMEAU</persName> </hi>, of Olsen and Cormeau, 93, Cannon Street, paper merchants. My firm have a monopoly of imitation Kraft paper, which we supply to Strong and Hanbury at £14 15s. per ton. I have visited Stricklands, 9, Long Lane, where I saw a quantity of Kraft paper, similar to that supplied to Strong and Hanbury. It was in good condition, certainly not a job line. If sold to Strickland at £11 12s. 6d. a ton that would be much under cost price.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-116" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM INGLETON</persName> </hi>, paper expert and buyer to Strong and Hanbury. In January, 1910, I went to Stricklands and saw 60 reams of imita
<lb/>tion Kraft paper, which I recognised as part of the Kraft paper sup
<lb/>plied to Reece Snyder between September 30 and October 28, 1909.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-117" type="given" value="JOSEPH LEOPOLD"/>JOSEPH LEOPOLD COOPER</persName> </hi>, 33, King Edward's Road, Hackney, travel
<lb/>ler. I have known Wollman for about 12 years. In June, 1909, he in
<lb/>formed me he had a clearance, or job line, of stationery, and as my knowledge of the trade was greater than his he asked me to assist him in disposing of it; he said it consisted of paper, twine, wood boxes, etc. He said he was an undischarged bankrupt and was trading under the name of Simon and Co. I was to receive 2 1/2 per cent. commission. I introduced him to a number of buyers, including S. Burnay and Co. I gave Burnay card produced, "S. Simon and Co., merchants and job buyers, 10, Beaumont Square, E. Presented by Mr. J. L. Cooper," together with a sample, and I sold him 30 reams as a clear
<lb/>ance line. I also called on I. Bender, trading as Goldberg and Co., of 75, Hackney Road, and sold him 12 dozen 1b. of twine at 4s. a dozen 1b. Wollman also gave me samples of glue, which I sold on his account at the prices fixed by him as clearance lines. I received as commission £70 during six or seven months. My commission was sometimes 2 1/2 and sometimes 5 per cent. I first heard of the Snyders in January, 1910. I told Wollman that I was entitled to commission for goods sold to customers I had introduced. He then told me he had an arrangement with the Snyders, of Chiswick, and I had an inter
<lb/>view with Snyder.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Wollman told me he employed me because I knew more about the stationery business than he did. I have only known Wollman as engaged in the drapery trade. I have been 26 years in the stationery business, 14 years as traveller; I have travelled for Burnay and Co. for six or seven years and am doing so still. I have been in business for myself in Hackney. All the firms I introduced Wollman to were well known and thoroughly respectable—they were Burnay and Co., Strickland, Goldberg and Co., McGinnis, and Brown. I should</p>
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<p>have had nothing to do with any business I thought wrong. The first transactions prisoner described as a clearance or job line—that is, defective or slightly soiled goods. Paper which has been stored in a damp place would be sold as damaged. Manufacturers and dealers frequently sell as clearance lines surplus stock or stock not of the exact shade or colour required. I had not the slightest idea that I was dealing with goods dishonestly obtained. None of the firms to whom I sold suggested such a thing. They frequently refused to give the prices asked; Wollman saw them and either lowered the prices or refused to sell. Strickland on one or two occasions had an allowance because the paper was damaged or was not up to sample. Burnay told me he had to part with some twine I sold him under cost. I first knew Wollman was an undischarged bankrupt when he told me himself. He said that the business of Simon and Co. was his wife's and that he was acting as manager for her. In almost all cases the goods were paid for by cheque. With exception of 30s., my commission was paid by cheque. On January 21 I first heard from Burnay that two detectives had been to see him. I told Wollman about that and also that I had received no commission on the parcel sold to Burnay. He told me that he had had to issue a writ for payment and that the cost had swallowed up all his profit. He advised me to see Snyder. On February 1 I saw Bernard and Reece Snyder and they offered to allow me a larger com
<lb/>mission if I sold a parcel of Kraft paper and some twine. I was to sell the paper at £11 a ton, have 5 per cent. commission on it, and anything over £11 I was to have for myself. The twine was 4s. 6d. a dozen 1b., on which I was to have 7 1/2 per cent. I did not attempt to sell this parcel. I never asked Wollman where he got the goods. All his transactions with me were perfectly straightforward and in the ordinary way of business. I had no suspicion that the goods were improperly obtained. On February 8 two detectives saw me and said they had a warrant out for the Snyders and for somebody named Cooper. I went to Hammersmith Police Station on February 9, made a statement to the inspector, and was afterwards called as a witness for the prose
<lb/>cution. I had no apprehension of being arrested. My address was easily found. I never represented myself to be Simon and Co. It is a very ordinary thing to remove the manufacturers' marks when goods are delivered by a dealer in the original packages in order to prevent the customer knowing the name of the original manufacturer.</p>
<p>Mr. Abinger asked leave to cross-examine on behalf of Bernard and Reece Snyder. The Common Serjeant held they were not parties to the present issue.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I understood Simon and Co. were job buyers from paper mills and wholesale houses of clearance or job stock. I never heard of a business of buying new goods in order to sell them as clearance lines. I reported the goods as clearance lines on the instruc
<lb/>tions of Wollman.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-118" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES STRICKLAND</persName> </hi>, manager to John Morris, trading as Strickland and Co., Aldersgate Street. I have known Cooper ten or twelve years. He called on me in August, 1909, produced Simon and Co.'s card, samples of brown packing paper and string, and sold me a number of parcels of goods between that date and the end of the year. He intro
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<p>Wollman to me as Simon and Co. and I bought goods direct From him. I always paid by cheque to Simon and Co. The total amount paid by me was £629 11s. 6d. The paper was mainly "Imita
<lb/>tion Kraft," which was sold at £11 12s. 6d. per ton nett cash on delivery. The goods were delivered by Hawkes. Ingleton called on me, saw a portion of the paper delivered November 9, 1909, and identified it. The paper was of an unusual colour and easily recognised.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I had 26 transactions with prisoner. I never sus
<lb/>pected the goods were dishonestly obtained. Manufacturers and dealers very often have clearance or job lines of paper from being overstocked, having rejected parcels, or soiled or damaged goods, which are sold at low prices. I have been twenty years in the trade and have known Cooper for ten or twelve years as a man of good reputation. In most instances he asked higher prices than I was prepared to give, and I offered a price which was sometimes refused. He told me Simon and Co. were dealing with other firms. I know Page and Co., Stapletons, Bean and Co., Dyas and Co., as firms of good repute. In one case I claimed and obtained a deduction because the paper was damaged.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-119" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT MILLER</persName> </hi>, manager to J. and A. D. Grimond, Carey Lane, jute spinners and manufacturers. On July 9 and August 12 I sold goods to R. Snyder amounting to £6 18s. 6d., which were paid for. On September 28, 1909, I received order for 100 dozen twine at 3s. 10 1/2 d. a dozen and delivered 25 dozen as per invoice produced, "25 dozen 1b. W. H.M. twine at 3 7/8"; on October 14, 21 dozen; on October 18, 4 dozen; on October 28, 25 dozen; on November 15, 14 dozen. It was all new string. On February 17 at Goldberg and Co.'s, 74, Hackney Road, I identified 48 packages of string marked "W.H.M." as part of those delivered to R. Snyder on October 18, 1909. Delivery note Exhibit 55, "25 dozen W.H.M., 384, Grimond, 3 7/8, £4 15s. 11d.," is a copy of my invoice. The three last deliveries were not paid for. Had I known that R. Snyder was a minor we should not have delivered the goods.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-120" type="given" value="EDGAR SCHRODER"/>EDGAR SCHRODER MOORE</persName> </hi>, director of W. Harrison and Co., Limited, 16, Mincing Lane, drysalters and mineral dealers. Before September 30, 1909, my firm had supplied goods to R. Snyder, which had been paid for. On October 6 we supplied 1/2 ton S150 glue in ten bags, £32 7s.; on October 30 we supplied 1/2 ton small cake glue at 27s. 6d. a cwt, £13 15s. On November 15 we received an order for six tons of S150 glue, which we did not execute. We were paid for the delivery on October 6, but not for that of October 30, issued a writ, and were in
<lb/>formed by Barrett and Co., solicitors for R. Snyder, that she was a minor. On February 15, 1910, I identified ten bags of small cake glue at Goldberg and Co.'s as the parcel delivered on October 30.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-121" type="given" value="FRANCIS HUGH"/>FRANCIS HUGH STEVENS</persName> </hi>, director of the Sheppey Glue and Chemical Works, Queenborough, and 34, Mark Lane. On October 27 I received letter produced from R. Snyder asking for samples of glue. Our repre
<lb/>sentative called and brought back an order for 5 cwt. BB glue at 34s., £8 10s., which was delivered. It was not paid for. We received a further order, which we did not execute. On February 17, 1910, at Goldberg and Co's, I identified two or three bags of the glue delivered</p>
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<p>in October. We should not have supplied the goods had we known that R. Snyder was a minor.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-122" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC BENDER</persName> </hi>, trading as Goldberg and Co., 74, Hackney Road. I have known Cooper eight or ten years as a traveller in stationery articles. In July, 1909, he called on me as representative of Simon and Co. and sold me string which I said for. On October 22 and 26 he sold me twine at 3s. 6d. per doz., value £16 17s. 6d., as per invoice produced of "Simon and Co., merchants and job buyers." I paid for it by cheque to Simon and Co. I bought it from a sample. On November 8 I bought 10 cwt. glue, job at 25s.—£12 10s.—which was delivered in bags. On November 13 I bought "One lot glue, job £15"—it was a mixed lot of about 10 cwt. or 11 cwt: Exhibit 57, "Goldberg and Co., 10 cwt. glue £11 15s.; 5 cwt. glue £8 10s.," may be the goods sold to me. I bought several other parcels of goods from Simon and Co., through Cooper. At the end of November Wollman called for me to alter a crossed cheque for £30 into an open cheque. I only knew him as Mr. Simon. I gave samples to the police.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Some of the string sold to me was not as strong as it should have been. The glue was in broken cakes and was there
<lb/>fore of less value. Cooper has regularly called upon me as a traveller for many years. I gave good value for the goods I bought as job lots.</p>
<p>(Thursday, April 28.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-123" type="given" value="STEWART"/>STEWART MCCANDLISH</persName> </hi>, managing clerk to Spicer Brothers, Limited, 19, New Bridge Street, paper manufacturers. From January to July, 1909, I supplied goods to R. Snyder amounting to £25 3s. 11d., which were paid for. On July 1 Reece Snyder called and stated she was starting a wholesale business connected with the shop, that she had had a large sum of money from her grandfather, and that she would want further credit. Our traveller visited the shop and we agreed to give her credit to be settled promptly each month. She asked me to allow her to refer other firms to us and I gave her a reference to several firms. We supplied goods which were paid for up to October 21. On August 9 we contracted to supply 45 1/2 tons Kraft brown paper at £14 15s. a ton and 12 tons brown at £9 10s. a ton to be delivered during 12 months. From September 1 to 21 we delivered paper amounting to £71 8s. 9d.; September 21 to October 30, paper amount
<lb/>ing to £94 8s. 4d.; and other goods by November 4 amounting to £45 5s. 3d. There is now owing £330 1s. 10d. In December we issued a writ, when an affidavit was filed stating that Reece Snyder was a minor. All the goods supplied were absolutely new.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Reece Snyder appeared to me to be over 21, to be very businesslike, and I was absolutely deceived by her.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-124" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED FINCH</persName> </hi>, clerk, Royal Courts of Justice, produced affidavit filed December 17, 1909, in the action of Spicer Brothers, Limited, v. R. Snyder, stating that Reece Snyder was born in Russia on April 3, 1890.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-125" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL BURNAY</persName> </hi>, Golden Lane, paper and twine merchant. In June, 1909, Cooper introduced Wollman to me in that name and from June,</p>
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<p>1909, to January, 1910, I bought paper, twine, and cord from him to the amount of £504 0s. 8d., which I paid for by cheque in favour of S. Simon and Co., in which name the goods were invoiced. I did not know whether Wollman was the principal or the representative of that firm. The goods were sold as job lots at about 10 per cent. Under market price.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I have known Cooper for 12 years as a traveller in the stationery trade; he travels for me. I knew Wollman's address—10, Beaumont Square. The transactions were perfectly open, as far as I knew, straightforward, and in the ordinary course of business. I generally arranged prices with Wollman; sometimes they were higher than I could pay and I made him an offer which he accepted or refused. In one or two cases I have sold the goods at a loss; I have also had allowances for their not being up to sample. On January 22 I had a visit from the police, who told me not to pay for goods delivered; Simon and Co. issued a writ and I paid. I showed the police Simon's invoices and gave them Cooper's address—33, King Edward's Road, Hackney.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I sold the goods as job lines, generally at a profit. There were two or three small parcels on which a reduction was made.</p>
<p>Mr. Travers Humphreys stated that he proposed to call the prisoner Reece Snyder as a witness for the prosecution. She, having pleaded Guilty on the first count (conspiracy), a verdict of Not guilty was returned on the other counts, and she was sentenced to be imprisoned until the rising of the Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-126" type="given" value="REECE"/>REECE SNYDER</persName> </hi> (prisoner). For the past 20 months I have lived at 14, Mayfield Avenue, Chiswick, with my parents and three sisters. I am 20 years old to-day. In November, 1908, I and my father, Bernard Snyder, bought the business of W. Barber at 194, High Road, Chiswick. I and my three sisters attended to the shop; we had five newsboys to distribute papers; my father also assisted. He had pre
<lb/>viously been a draper. I had met Wollman four or five years ago at a wedding. In April, 1909, he came to tea; my father reintroduced him to me and said he could buy paper and string if we had any of the right kind and at the right prices. After that Wollman called almost daily at the shop; he would go up to the office on the first floor and sometimes father would go up to him. I wrote the letters produced ordering goods from the wholesale stationers at Wollman's dictation or asking for samples. Wollman would call and take the samples away, then come to the office, call me upstairs and dictate the orders to me, which I wrote and which were copied in the letter book produced. Wollman would look through the book to see if I had written the orders correctly and index them up. I identify several entries in the index as in his handwriting. When the goods arrived Wollman, if present, would take them round to the warehouse or my father would, and Wollman would come round in the evening. We took the stable in Chiswick Terrace in May, 1909, and afterwards Kensington Hall in Turnham Green Terrace as warehouses. Wollman would telephone to ask if the goods had arrived, come in the evening and go to the ware-house alone or with my father. Cheques came from Wollman, which</p>
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<p>were paid into my banking account at the London and South-Western Bank, Chiswick, who received and paid cheques as agents for Lloyds Bank, Cheapside; some of the cheques were taken direct to Lloyds. I did not see Cooper until a few days before the police came. He used to ring me up on the telephone and ask if Wollman was at the shop—I would then switch on to the office upstairs, where Wollman would be. On January 31 I received letter produced from Wollman introducing Cooper and saw him as he has stated. Delivery notes Exhibit 55, 57, and 58 are in Wollman's writing; Exhibit 56 is in my father's writing.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I had nothing to do with selling the goods whole sale. Delivery notes were left by Wollman to show what goods had been sold and they were sent off by my father. I generally endorsed the cheques which were signed "Simon and Co." Wollman sometimes made cheques payable to other names—he said he did not want all his cheques payable to H. Snyder. I may have endorsed them; some were endorsed by my father. They were all drawn by Simon and Co. on Wollman's account and were paid into my account. My mother had an account in the London Joint Stock Bank in the name of Lacey, on which I had authority to draw, but I do not remember signing any cheques upon it. I signed all cheques on Lloyds Bank—always on the direction of Wollman or my father. I was first informed yesterday I should be called as a witness. I have given no statement or proof of my evidence. Wollman had nothing to do with buying the business at 194, High Road. He went with my father to view the stable and also Kensington Hall. I went with my father to rent them. I swore the affidavit produced stating that I was a minor on the advice of my solicitor; several actions were defended on that ground. Goods were bought of Edwards and Sons, some paid for and some not. Edwards called on me. I told him I had a wealthy grandfather in Russia and thought I should benefit at his death, and asked him if the death duties in the Budget would affect it. I do not know how much my father received from Wollman. We paid £600 to £700 a month in payment of accounts. I had many inquiries of payment and my father told me to say that I had speculated and had suffered heavy losses—which I did; it was not true. I said to Edwards that my business was good and I hoped to recover myself if he would have a little patience and that he would be the first to receive a cheque. In the early part of 1908 I was in America. My grandfather gave me 5,000 dollars (£1,000) as a dowry. In May, 1908, I returned to England with my father and mother—I then had about £700, which was paid into the London and County Bank, Hawhurst, Kent, where we were staying. The entire family were living on it. When I bought Barber's business I had about £300. I paid £190 in cash and kept about £100 to run the busi
<lb/>ness. I saw Spicer and Co. and told them that out of £1,000 my grand
<lb/>father had given me I had bought the business and that I was opening a wholesale department.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I drew cheques on Wollman's instructions in pay
<lb/>ment of accounts. I paid a large number of accounts on the 20th of each month.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-127" type="given" value="THOMAS GEORGE AUGUSTUS"/>THOMAS GEORGE AUGUSTUS EDWARDS</persName> </hi>, director of W. D. Edwards and Son, Limited, Knightrider Street, wholesale stationers. In July and August, 1909, I supplied goods to R. Snyder. On August 9, I received order (produced) for 9 1/2 tons of Kraft paper and delivered certain quantities. On January 31 there was due £215 18s. I was pressing for payment of £41 14s. 4d., due on the month's account, and saw Reece Snyder. She said she had been specu
<lb/>lating in securities, which were worthless at the time, but which she hoped would realise in the future, and that she had large amounts owing to her which she could not get in. We heard from Strong and Hanbury. In February I visited Snyder's warehouse and found about five tons of the paper we had supplied.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-128" type="given" value="WILLIAM GEORGE"/>WILLIAM GEORGE WARREN</persName> </hi>, 36, Dale Street, Chiswick, shop boy. In November, 1908, I was employed by R. Snyder. Large quantities of stationery were received and stored at the stable and at Kensington Hall. Wollman used to come to the shop nearly every evening for about four or five months before the police came; he used to go to the warehouse. Bernard Snyder, in Wollman's presence, instructed me to black over or cut out marks on the packages. Samples of the goods were taken by Wollman and B. Snyder.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-129" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SMITH</persName> </hi>, 5, Terrace View, Turnham Green, painter. In De
<lb/>cember, 1909, I was engaged by B. Snyder to unload and unpack goods at the stable and Kensington Hall. Wollman came several times and examined the goods. I scraped the marks off cases.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-130" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT COOPER</persName> </hi>, manager to F. Hawkes, 18, Goodman's Yard, Mino
<lb/>ries, carman. From July, 1909, to January, 1910, I have carted about 180 tons of goods for R. Snyder to various places in the City.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-131" type="given" value="SENTHILL"/>SENTHILL WILOX</persName> </hi>, partner in Bisley and Co., Chiswick, printers. On June 9, 1909, I printed billheads produced for R. Snyder, and at the same time 100 copies of billheads, "S. Simon and Co., merchants and job buyers, 1, Beaumont Square, E." Bernard Snyder ordered both and we were paid by cheque by R. Snyder.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-132" type="given" value="ARTHUR JAMES"/>ARTHUR JAMES CLUER</persName> </hi>, clerk, Lloyds Bank, Cheapside. I produce copy account of R. Snyder, opened on October 7, 1908, with £242 12s. 5d. from the Bank of Liverpool. On January 19, 1910, there was a balance of £7 19s. 11d. The London and South-Western Bank, Chiswick, received cheques and were instructed to honour R. Snyder's cheques to a small amount.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-133" type="given" value="JOHN SHIRLEY"/>JOHN SHIRLEY LIWA</persName> </hi>, clerk, London and South-Western Bank, Chis
<lb/>wick. I produce copy of R. Snyder's account with my bank. From June 10, 1909, to January 14, 1910, we received cheques of Simon and Co. on the London and South-Western Bank, Minories, amount
<lb/>ing to £1,141 11s. 2d.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Cheques paid direct to Lloyds Bank, Cheapside, are not included in the £1,141 11s. 2d.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-134" type="given" value="FREDERIC BRIAN"/>FREDERIC BRIAN WINDELL</persName> </hi>, cashier, London Joint Stock Bank, Ox
<lb/>ford Street. I produce copy of account of Ethel Rose Lacey; her daughter Rachel Lacey (R. Snyder) had authority to draw. The account was opened November 15, 1909, by a payment of £125; fur
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<p>payments of £235 were made; on February 7, 1910, £400 was drawn out in gold.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-135" type="given" value="LUTHER ROBERT"/>LUTHER ROBERT MERTON</persName> </hi>, clerk, London and South-Western Bank, Minories. I produce certified copy account of Leah Isaacs, trading as Simon and Co. Wollman was the usual person I saw in connection with the account. It ran from June 9, 1909, to February 7, 1910. There was paid in £3,617 1s. 1d. On February 7 the credit balance was £4 16s. 5d.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-136" type="given" value="GEORGE INGLIS"/>GEORGE INGLIS BOYLE</persName> </hi>, messenger, Court of Bankruptcy. I produce file of the bankruptcy of Bernard Snyder: Petition filed by the debtor and adjudication June 8, 1905; liabilities, £4,000 19s. 2d.; estimated assets, £314 6s. 2d.; deficiency, £3,686 13s. I also produce file in the bankruptcy of Tobias Davis Wollman, of 10, Beaumont Square, carrying on business at 36, Charterhouse Square, as blouse
<lb/>maker, in the name of Kutas and Co., Limited; petition filed March 15, 1909; receiving order April 14, 1909; adjudication April 19, 1909.</p>
<p>(Friday, April 29.)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBERT EVE</hi>, T Division. On February 5 I saw B. Snyder and his wife leave 14, Mayfield Avenue, Chiswick, and proceed to 10, Beaumont Square, where I arrested B. Snyder, and took him to Chiswick Police Station. He was searched; pocket book and letter extract 54 were found on him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANK KNELL</hi>, T Division. On February 5 I saw Wollman, at 10, Beaumont Square, told him who I was, that I was endeavouring to find Cooper, and I would like a statement from him. He gave his name "Tobias Davis Wollman, trading as Simon and Co., 10, Beaumont Square, merchants and job buyers," and said, "I have known the Snyder family about 12 months, and have been doing business with them 10 or 12 months. On January 7 I paid them a cheque for £14 10s. for paper and twine, on January 13 a cheque for £55, and on January 18 a cheque for £40. I have sold goods to Burnay, Strickland, Page, and Bernstein." He handed three invoices to me, and said "Those are the only ones I have; the others I have destroyed." He handed me a number of samples of paper and twine. He said "The goods I have purchased from Snyder, have been sent by Snyder direct to the firms to whom I have sold the goods. A man named Cooper canvasses for me occasionally. These two balls of twine are those I received as samples from Mr. Snyder, but I have bought the goods I have had from Miss Snyder, and got her. or the assistant to send them to certain firms; I have never given the order to Mr. Snyder. I never purchased any more goods from Snyder after Burnay and Co. refused to pay me immediate cash." I had then a warrant for the arrest of Cooper—after that conversation. I did not attempt to execute it.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I had a warrant for the arrest of Cooper and the two Snyders. I found two officers at Beaumont Square; they had telephoned me that the man there was not Cooper. I took a state
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<p>He answered all my questions; produced invoices, samples, etc., and showed me the three cheques. I saw Burnay after Woll
<lb/>man's arrest. On February 7 I got a letter from Wollman's solicitor saying I could see Wollman at their office.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS HALL</hi>, T Division. On February 5, at 6 p.m., I searched at 14, Mayfield Avenue, and found a number of letters. I afterwards searched 194, High Road, Chiswick; there was a telephone in the shop, with a communication with the office on the first floor. I found a quantity of invoices and letters from about 80 firms pressing for payments amounting to £4,000; cash-book, in which the last pay
<lb/>ment is August 7, 1909, and showing takings from the retail business from November 14, 1908, to August 7, 1909, at from £18 to £35 weekly. I found a bundle of 36 instructions for delivery notes, in
<lb/>cluding Exhibits 55-58. With the exception of Exhibit 56, and a bundle of receipts for delivery of goods, they are all in Wollman's handwriting; the shop was well stocked. At the stable, Terrace Mews, I found the 6 tons of paper identified by Edwards, large quantities of twine, boxes of glue, etc.; the marks of the cases were cut out. At Kensington Hall I found a case of twine, some Brunswick black, scraper produced, and a number of cases, the names on which had been blackened over.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The delivery of a large quantity of the goods sold to Snyder has not been traced.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBERT KIRCHNER</hi>, T Division. On February 14 I saw Wollman at Stepney Green close to his house, and said, "I hold a warrant for your arrest on a charge of conspiring with Bernard and Reece Snyder to obtain and obtaining various goods amounting to £210 from Strong and Hanbury with intent to defraud." He said, "Yes, I know all about it; I quite understand. I will come quietly." I said, "I will show you the warrant if you desire." He said, "That is all right as long as you have the warrant. Let me go and see my wife." I said, "That is impossible now; you can communicate with her." I then told him I should call a police officer to take him to the station, and I should search his house. He said, "That is all right, I will stay with you; there is nothing at the house." He was taken to the station: in answer to the charge he said, "I know nothing about it." I found at 10, Beaumont Square a number of invoices and cards relating to the firm of Simon and Co.; no goods and no books. On February 12 I saw Isaac Bender, trading as Goldberg and Co., and received from him a sample of string and invoice dated October 26, 1909, which has been identified by Grimond and Co. On February 15, Moore identified 10 boxes of glue containing about 30 cwt., sold to Bender for £30; also five cases of glue marked "U. B. D." and invoice dated November 13, "One lot of glue £15," afterwards identified by Stephens as sold to Snyder by the Sheppey Glue and Chemical Works.</p>
<p>No evidence was offered on counts 27, 28, 29 relating to Rogers' case; counts 10, 14, 19, 22 and 26 for aiding and abetting Reece Snyder to obtain credit were also withdrawn as against Wollman.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-137" type="given" value="TOBIAS DAVIS"/>TOBIAS DAVIS WOLLMAN</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I live at 10, Beaumont Square. I have known Bernard Snyder for about 12 months since he returned from America. I had seen him some five years previously, but have done no business with him until June, 1909. I was bankrupt in April, 1909, after which my wife carried on business in the name of Simon and Co. and I managed for her. In June, 1909, she opened a bank account in the name of Simon and Co. with a payment in of £75, which she obtained from her father, Simon Isaacs, who introduced her to the bank, he having an account there. She gave her name as Leah Isaacs. All the cheques signed Simon and Co. are written and signed by my wife. Up to that time I had been in the drapery trade and had no knowledge of the stationery trade. A friend recommended me to Bernard Snyder; he said, "He has a business; he is looking out for somebody to sell goods for him." I called upon Snyder at 194, High Road, Chiswick, and he arranged for me to sell goods for him on commission of 5 per cent. and expenses, I to be responsible for all the money for the goods which were sold, whether the customers paid me or not, I to be allowed to continue my own business as a draper and sell in the name of Simon and Co. as I had to collect the money. Snyder said his daughter had the business, that he was an undischarged bankrupt, and that he was managing the business for her. I was to invoice the goods in the name of Simon and Co., but to inform him of all the firms I sold to and to sell only at the prices fixed by him. I had the samples and description of the goods from him. A few days after
<lb/>wards he gave me samples of paper with the letters of description, weight, etc., and the net prices to sell at. I did not know any firms in the stationery trade and at first sold very little, so, having known Cooper as a traveller in that trade, I asked him to assist me. I arranged to pay Cooper 2 1/2 per cent. out of my 5 per cent. Commission and he proceeded to sell. I forwarded to Snyder notes containing the parcels of the goods sold, such as Exhibits 55, 57, and 58, which are in my writing. Exhibit 55 is "Strickland and Co.," the firm sold to, "50 dozen twine, Rogers, 4s. 4d., £10 16s. 8d."—that is the price at which it is sold to Strickland: "Goldberg and Co., 25 dozen twine 354 3 7/8, £4 16s. 11d."—that is the description and price of the twine as sold to Goldberg; "Bernstein, 76envelopes, duck, at 1s. 10d., £7 0s. 7d."—that is 76,000 envelopes sold to Bernstein at 1s. 10d. I have never seen Exhibit 56; I think it is in B. Snyder's writing. Ex
<lb/>hibit 57 is in my writing: "November 12, Goldberg and Co, glue H O, £11 15s.; 5 cwt. Sheppey £8 10s., £20 5s." I do not know what "Sheppey" means—it is the description of the glue; then "Bern
<lb/>stein 148m Costell envelopes, 1s. 10d."; the amount of that is not carried out—I do not know what "Costell" means; it is the description of the envelope. Exhibit 58 is in my writing. "Strickland and Co., 10 reams brown D. I., 14 cwt. 0 qr. 16 1b.; 10 reams ditto 120 casing, 10 cwt. 2 qr. 14 lb., at 9s. per cwt., £11 2s. 10d.; Lloyd's 20 ream 120 D.I. 21 cwt. 1 qr. 20 lb., £9 12s. 10d.; 10 reams, S.P., 120 casing, 10 cwt. 2 qr. 24 lb., 9s. 6d., £5 1s. 11d." (A number of delivery notes</p>
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<p>were read.) These are prices at which the goods were sold by me with the descriptions. I did not know the firms from whom Snyder was buying or the prices at which he bought. Reece Snyder's evidence is false. I did not tell her the names of the firms to write to; I did not know them myself; I am a draper by trade. I never saw the letters written to the wholesale firms. Cooper afterwards refused to work for 2 1/2 per cent. commission, and I arranged with Snyder for him to give me 7 1/2 per cent. commission, out of which I paid Cooper 5 per cent.; that was at the end of June or beginning of July, and that arrangement continued to the end. Cooper sold a large quantity of goods to several firms—Strickland, Norberg and Co., Burnay, Brown, Bernstein, Stapleford, Page, and many others. I knew none of them before Cooper introduced them. When Snyder told me the goods were a clearance lot I put it on my invoice or sold them as such. I never asked Snyder where he bought; my customer never asked me where they came from; it is not the custom to ask that. Sometimes the goods were damaged; the paper was wet or torn; we had complaints of its not being up to sample. Snyder explained that his warehouse being part of a stable the wet got in from the neighbouring stables. Sometimes I could not get the prices Snyder asked; I informed B. Snyder that I could not get the price he asked and he instructed me to accept the price offered, which I did. I went to the shop four or five times a week. If the samples were not ready I went with Snyder to the warehouse and got them. I never unpacked anything or examined the goods, or saw marks on cases obliterated. I indexed up the letter book on one or two occasions because B. Snyder said he was pressed with work and asked me to oblige him by doing so. I knew nothing of the letters. Some of the receipts for goods are in my writing; they were returned by the carmen to Snyder. I paid Snyder all moneys I received except my commission and expenses and about £75 paid to Cooper for com
<lb/>mission; it was all paid in cheques. Sometimes cheques were made out to Clark and Co. and other names; that was because Snyder said he wanted to pay those people a cheque. Some of the money was paid by bill. The cheques and notes of the bills are all included in the bundle produced. In some cases I borrowed money from Cohen and others, which was repaid. The total amount paid to Snyder by cheques and bills (produced) is £2,466 8s. 11d. The payments go down to January 11, 1910. In January, 1910, I called on Burnay for a cheque, when he refused to pay; he said the police had been to him and he should neither part with the goods nor the money—that there was something wrong with the goods. My solicitors wrote and afterwards issued a writ; then Burnay paid. I took no more samples and sold no more goods after that. Cooper asked me for his commission on the sale to Burnay and, as I had had to pay £3 6s. costs, I referred him to Snyder and wrote to Snyder to pay him. I answered all the inquiries of the police and showed them all the documents I had and offered to give any further information if they would make an appoint
<lb/>ment. I always had my printing done by Kearstein, but in June, in conversation with Snyder, I happened to mention that I wanted a few</p>
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<p>billheads printed; he offered to get them done for me as he would get something out of it, and he printed 100 for me at a cost of 3s. 6d. or 4s.; that was the only order I gave him; Kearstein afterwards did printing for me. I opened the banking account in the name of Snyder when I began to sell for Snyder. It was more convenient not to hand him the cheques as I received them, and I had some use for the money, which was useful to me in my business. My business in drapery was not large and I had no banking account for that.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. From my bankruptcy on April 19 to June 9, when I commenced with Snyder, I was doing a small drapery business for my wife. Up to my bankruptcy I traded in the name of Kutas and Co. as manufacturer of blouses and ladies' underclothing. At the end of April or beginning of May I started in the name of Simon and Co., buying blouses, etc., from manufacturers and selling to hawkers for cash. I cannot remember if I had billheads before June. My wife opened the banking account in the name of "Leah Isaacs" (her maiden name) "trading as Simon and Co." on the advice of her father. I first saw Reece Snyder in May at their own house; no introduction took place because we knew one another; I cannot recollect what B. Snyder said about buying or selling goods. I knew they were in business as stationers, wholesale and retail; they asked me to sell goods for them in the wholesale; it was not for me to ask why this wholesale stationer wanted me, who knew nothing of the stationery trade, to sell for him; it did not strike me as extraordinary, I had been recom
<lb/>mended to him by a man named Wisselberg, of 74, Commercial Road, a stationer; he took a few of the goods and paid the price asked. Snyder told me he sold goods in the neighbourhood. I did not know the names of the customers. I saw a lot of goods in the warehouse, and it seemed a large wholesale business. I had no knowledge of the books. Exhibit 55 is my written instructions to Snyder to send the goods to Strickland and Co., and to send to Goldberg and Co. 50 doz. Twine Rogers at 4s. 4d. a doz.—£10 16s. 8d. I swear that is the price it was sold at to Strickland. "Goldberg and Co., 25 doz. No. 354 Grimond twine 3 7/8." I believe that is the price the twine was sold at to Goldberg. It may be the price I was to get for it. That is what I asked for it. I did not know that Rogers or Grimond were the manufacturers from whom Snyder had bought. Invoice produced shows the twine was sold at 3s. 6d. Perhaps an allowance was made. There is no deduction shown on the invoice. I believe 4s. 4d. was the price I sold at to Strickland; it was the price given to me by Snyder to sell at—I took it down from him at the time he gave me the sample. Exhibit 57 is one of my instructions for delivery. It is in my handwriting. The price is what I was to sell at. On the same slip there is "Goldberg and Co. 10 cwt. glue Halls; 5 cwt. Sheppey." I do not know who "Halls" or "Sheppey" are. I will swear I never saw the invoices of the goods sold to Snyder.</p>
<p>(Saturday, April 30.)</p>
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<p>court, were very important documents, and I have not thought about explaining them. I was represented by a solicitor. Exhibit 57 gives £14 15s. as the price at which I was to sell. There should be another slip which I gave to Synder at the time, showing the price at which the goods were actually sold. When I sold goods I filled in another form and sent it to Snyder. The invoice from the Sheppey Chemical works, 5 cwt. glue £8 10s., corresponds with the delivery note in my handwriting. I swear again I never saw any of the invoices. These delivery notes were made out before I sold the goods without the name of the purchaser, which I put on afterwards. I also sent another slip with the description, name of purchase, and price sold at. (A number of delivery notes were put to the witness, each containing de
<lb/>scription of goods and price copied from the manufacturer's invoice, and the name of the firm to whom they had been sold. No second slips such as were described by him were to be found.) I had about 50 transactions with Goldberg and Co. They were all sold as job lines. I did not know that Snyder was getting rid of his stock, I had only had samples given to me with the price at which to sell. I did not want to know why they were being sold. I was very busy, and had my wife's drapery business to attend to as well. I indexed the letter book because Snyder asked me, as he was very busy, to oblige him. Snyder asked me to make out certain cheques in the name of Clark, and other names, as he wanted to pay the amounts to those people. I do not know why he should not have drawn his own cheque, except that he might have saved a penny. Exhibit 54a shows the amount of goods sold in October, 1909. It is in my writing and amounts to £700. The turnover in my drapery business would be £100 a month. Simon and Co.'s banking account shows a receipt of £3,600; £2,200 was paid to Snyder: about £800 would be my drapery busi
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<p>(Monday, May 2.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-143" type="given" value="RUBY"/>RUBY TELFER</persName> </hi>, manager to Mr. W. E. Wood, 18, Brook Street, Hanover Square, W. I saw Eggena for the first time early in 1909. At that time Mr. Wood's opinion had been asked on some emeralds by Eggena. After that we had some conversation about jewellery. He usually wanted diamonds. He wanted to know if he could have them on credit. I told him that was quite contrary to Mr. Wood's rule. Then he wanted to know if we would take part cash. I went with him in May or June, 1909, to Thames Ditton. He said he had an aunt there who had just come from the Continent. She was a collector of curios and jewellery, and price was no object if she thought the jewel
<lb/>lery was uncommon. We went in his motor-car. When we arrived there he went in the house. I kept the jewellery. He was away 10 minutes. When he came back he said his aunt had gone to London and wished us to call at the Savoy Hotel at four o'clock that afternoon. I went there, but Eggena did not keep the appointment. I believe he said she was his father's sister, unmarried. I inquired at the hotel for Miss Eggena and failed to find the lady. A week or two after that I had a conversation with him about other jewellery. He called many times at Brook Street, but only alluded to jewellery casually. The first definite occasion was in September, when he said he was going to bring Miss Montague to select some jewellery. He asked if I would take a post-dated cheque for half the amount. I said certainly not. He then brought the lady in. I showed her, amongst others, some of the jewellery I had taken to the supposed aunt at Thames Ditton. She selected all the jewellery, the subject of the present charge, value £7,000 or £8,000. It was put on one side. Later he came and asked if he could have the jewellery if he gave security. I said he could if the security was commensurate with the payment. He then produced a receipt from the Ariel Motor Company for cars he had purchased, and asked if that would be sufficient security. I said no doubt it would. He kept the receipt. I went to see the liquidator of the company personally. I was not satisfied, and told Eggena so. After that I received a letter from him saying "Miss Montague wishes the jewellery for a specific purpose, and as I have another lot of cars, my own personal property, and which are of greater value, I am willing to let her take these in the meantime if you are agreeable to take them as security," etc. He then called at Brook Street, and I went with him to the Motor House, Euston Road, and saw Easton. Eggena said, "Show Mr. Telfer my cars." I was taken upstairs and shown at least 25 cars, all on one floor. Easton was there, and Eggena talked a good deal about the cars. When he had finished I said to Easton, "Are these Mr. Eggena's cars?" He said, "Absolutely." After that I consulted Mr. Wood, and on his instructions consulted his solicitor, who prepared three documents for the carrying out of the transaction. One of them is Exhibit 19, a statutory declaration. On November 16 I went with Eggena to</p>
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<p>swear it before a commissioner. The other documents are Nos. 20 and 27. The latter I gave to Eggena with the understanding that he would take it to the Motor House and get them to sign it. I never saw it again. This letter (Exhibit 22) was handed to me by Eggena on November 16. He showed it to me as a reason why Wood had not received the document he required from the Motor House. He said it was all nonsense; he could make nothing of it. He gave me an order on them to deliver the cars. He wrote it the same day on Mr. Wood's paper. Mr. Wood gave me Exhibit 24 on the 17th. I then went to the Motor House. Easton was out. I waited till he came in and asked him what it meant. I told him why it was neces
<lb/>sary that Mr. Wood should have the cars delivered to him, and explained the business between Eggena and ourselves. I told Easton we wanted a perfectly clean receipt for the cars, free from any claim upon them. Early in morning of the 18th Eggena arrived in the car at Brook Street. He came in and Miss Montague remained in the car. He made a lot of fuss; generally he did not, he was too full of apolo
<lb/>gies as a rule. He said, "Why cannot this business be carried through?" I pointed out that until we had a proper receipt for the cars we could not part with any jewellery. He said Miss Montague had been kicking up a row with him about it. I said to Mr. Wood, "Why not have her in and explain the circumstances of the case?" I went and asked her to come in. She did so. She commenced to ex
<lb/>postulate about the difficulty about the cars and in getting the dia
<lb/>monds. I handed her Exhibit 21. She was very angry, and said she wanted to take the jewels away then, so that she could be photo
<lb/>graphed. I explained that until the matter was completed she could not have them. She then commenced to upbraid Eggena, and said it was all his fault, that he had not attended to it. To pacify her I told her he had done all he could and showed her the affidavit, and said now that he had this letter I supposed the matter would go through. She was then seemingly satisfied. At the time I was showing her some button pearls she was purchasing, she said she had a lot of pro
<lb/>perty coming from Australia, and there would be no reason to raise money on the cars. I went to the Motor House with Eggena's order and produced it to Easton, and asked me to deliver me the 25 cars. I explained that I was not going to take them away, but if he would deliver them to me I would re-deliver them to him and take his receipt. He did not absolutely refuse, but he practically refused. He said he must consult the directors. I produced Exhibit 21, which says they have no lien or claim on the cars. I said, "In the face of that are you going to refuse upon his order to give them to me?" He said, "I do not absolutely refuse, but I cannot do it without consulting my directors. I left. Nothing was done. The same evening Eggena and Miss Montague came to Brook Street. Miss Montague came to take away the diamonds. I said, "We have not got the cars from the Motor House; they refuse to give formal delivery, and without that we cannot deliver the jewellery." She cried or pretended to cry. I was annoyed, and perhaps answered her sharply. Mr. Wood asked me to leave the matter to him. He endeavoured to pacify her, and</p>
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<p>was even going to the extent of allowing her to have some of the jewellery. I pointed out that we had not got the matter settled. She heard all the conversation. On the 20th Mr. Wood produced the re
<lb/>ceipt (Exhibit 28). I rang up Easton on the telephone. He came. I recognised his voice. Mr. Wood was standing by. I repeated, "Is that Mr. Easton?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Eggena has handed us a receipt of yours," and I read it very distinctly, having some sus
<lb/>picion of the man. Some parts of it he repeated. His answers I re
<lb/>peated to Mr. Wood. Easton finished up by saying, "That is all perfectly right." On that receipt, I believe, Mr. Wood delivered some jewellery that day. A week or two later I went to the Motor House, on Mr. Wood's instructions, to see if the cars were all there. I had a long conversation with Easton about cars and jewellery. I think the words I used were "You saw your way to giving that receipt after making all that fuss." He explained that it was not his fault; that he was a servant of the company, that the directors were such difficult chaps to deal with, that he had made several hundred pounds out of Eggena and expected to make a good deal more. Between January 10 and beginning of February I saw Eggena several times a day and Miss Montague occasionally. They were then staying at the Hotel Russell. I did not ask for payment for the jewellery; I believe Mr. Wood did. I saw Eggena on February 3 at the Hotel Russell for half an hour or an hour, and then Miss Montague. My conversation with him was about his paying the money or returning the jewellery. He tried to stop Miss Montague talking about it, and cried to send Her away. She explained in an excited state that she had had enough of it, and was not going to be bothered; we might have the jewels back, they were upstairs locked away. I said I should be pleased to. He would not let her go on talking, and turned her out of the room. On February 4 I consulted Mr. Wood's solicitor. I then telephoned Easton saying, "I am sending up for Mr. Wood's 25 cars." He said, "We have not got any cars of Mr. Wood's they have all gone a long time ago." I asked now that was. He said, They went away on a properly-signed order of Eggena's, and I gave Mr. Wood notice of that at the time." I was indignant, and he gave me some indistinct reply; I referred to our solicitor, and he rang off. On the 5th application for process was made at Bow Street and granted.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Fitch. I have been with Mr. Wood four or five years. He has been in business in Brook Street, I believe, six years. When I first went with him I had general experience in jewellery, not special. Mr. Wood was not then as frequently away as of late years. I was not aware that he has interests in other businesses. When I first saw Eggena he came to get Mr. Wood's opinion about some emeralds. I have no idea what opinion was given. The next business discussed was some Galician oilfields. That was nothing to do with Mr. Wood; it was with me. If there had been any profit in it possibly Mr. Wood would have had part; there was no arrangement to that effect. The next business was about the things I took to Thames Ditton. They amounted to more than £10,000. They were never invoiced to Eggena that I know of. They were never in his</p>
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<p>possession; individual articles may have been. He said he had in
<lb/>terests in India and the colonies. I had been told he had wealthy relations abroad. I made inquiries and found what he said was cor
<lb/>rect. We discussed the value of the articles we took to Thames Ditton in Brook Street early in the year. I made no note of the words used. He told me he was bankrupt; that was about June. That was one of the reasons I wanted security for the jewels. I made no inquiries to find out whether he had any occupation, as I had no intention of trusting him. Mr. Wood trusted him with the goods. I disapproved throughout of Eggena having goods without security. I did not deliver any of the goods, and they were not delivered in my presence. My name is Leviansky, but I have not used the name for 25 years.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Sir F. Low. Eggena was anxious to get hold of the jewellery and Mr. Wood was not unwilling to deal. The only person who raised difficulties at the Motor House was Easton, who is charged here with conspiracy. He was not raising difficulties; they were quibbles for the female defendant's benefit. When I saw him about November 14 my name was mentioned as Telfer. Eggena simply said, "Please show him my cars." Nothing was said as to my connection in the matter, and Easton evinced no curiosity. I asked him if they were Eggena's cars and he answered, "Absolutely," or a similar word. I say the jewellery was parted with absolutely in consequence of what happened on that occasion. On the 17th I saw Easton alone. I did not have Exhibit 21 in my hand because I did not receive it till the 18th. I might have had No. 23. Dutton did not take that to Mr. Easton and bring it back to me. I may have said to Easton, "Why cannot you do this?" meaning carry this business through. He did not say it would be all right a little later, but I was a little too pre
<lb/>vious. It was on the 18th that I said, "How can you refuse in face of documents 21 and 23?" I am prepared to swear it was not on the 17th. Easton did not say on any occasion that No. 21 was addressed to Eggena and that he had not got his money yet. Part of my con
<lb/>versation has been worked into that. Part of it is correct, but the body of it is incorrect. He never used such a phrase as "I could not do it; it would not be regular, but I have no objection to transferring Eggena's interest in the cars." The only interviews I had with Easton before the jewels were parted with were on the 14th and 17th. He swore he only saw me once in his life. I had a good deal of suspicion with regard to Eggena and I was not willing for the receipt to be acted upon without confirmation by Easton, and I got it by telephone on the 20th. I have not seen more than two letters signed by Easton. Exhibit 21 is signed by Easton, "P. H. Easton." The other documents shown to me are signed in the same way. No. 28 being signed "Percy Easton" did not strike me. Up to the time of the receipt being handed to me I had made several attempts to get a clean receipt for the cars, but Easton always evaded it, and so far as I had a voice in the matter I had made up my mind the jewels should not be parted with. On the day the receipt was confirmed about £3,000 worth was almost immediately handed over. So far as I know,</p>
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<p>Wood and Easton never came into contact until the police court pro
<lb/>ceedings On February 4 I telephoned Easton, saying, "This is Wood, 18, Brook Street. I am sending for my 25 cars," and empha
<lb/>sised "my" I may have said they were Eggena's and were in my name. He did not answer, "They are not in your name" nor "You never sent down a properly signed order."</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Elliott. Before I saw Miss Montague I dis
<lb/>cussed jewellery with Eggena at least a couple of months. He did not mention her name on the first two or three occasions. Before the introduction of her name the terms on which the jewellery was to be sold to him were not discussed. He gave me no idea of the age of his aunt that we were going to see at Thames Ditton. He led me to imagine she was his father's sister. He said she was a maiden lady and I assumed her name was Eggena. The articles I took there were a jewelled-handled State umbrella belonging to the King of Mandalay. It was a curio. There were some large pearls and a rope of rough emeralds. The value was between £10,000 and £20,000. The aunt was to buy the jewellery and when she selected it it would be time to discuss terms of payment. I did not ask Eggena the lady's position. At that time I would not have trusted him with £20 nor £10. When he brought Miss Montague I showed her a quantity of jewellery. I do not think I discussed with her the question of payment then. When she selected the jewels a proposition was made that she should give a certified cheque for £5,000 and have three months' credit for the balance. I declined it. The next proposition that I considered seriously was that I should accept £15,000 worth of motor cars from the Ariel Company as security. He showed me a receipt. He had bought the lot. They were Miss Montague's. Miss Montague was not in town then. I made inquiries and the people described the receipt as fraudulent; the cheque which had been given had never been met. The next proposition was the cars at the Motor House. It was not on the security of those alone that influenced me in parting with the jewels. There was the lady's position. I knew that from outside information. She made no statement as to her earning con
<lb/>siderable sums of money. The statement she made as to property coming from Australia is false. She has no estates in Australia. I have made inquiries. She said she had large sums of money coming from her property in Australia. Apart from the statement that she had large sums of money coming she did not tell me specifically they were money coming from property. The statement was that she had large sums coming from Australia. In spite of that statement I refused to let her have the jewels without the security on the cars. Ladies are frequently impatient to get jewellery to wear. I was not surprised that she wanted to be photographed in them. She was not only angry with Wood and me, but she even abused Eggena and said it was all his fault. Mr. Wood tried to act as peacemaker. When I went to the hotel on February 3 she selected a tiara worth about £1,300. There was a discussion as to whether she should have one nearer £2,000 value. She chose the less expensive one.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM LITHERMORE</hi> deposed that it would be dangerous to health for the witness George Freestone to attend the Court to give evidence.</p>
<p>(Thursday, April 28.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-144" type="given" value="FREDERICK JAMES"/>FREDERICK JAMES MONTFORT</persName> </hi>, assistant to Mr. C. B. Vaughan, 39, Strand, W. C. I produce a diamond bar brooch and diamond drop which have been identified by last witness. They were pledged with me on November 29 in the name of "For Miss Montague," signed F. Eggena, for £450. Eggena pledged them. We have had other transactions with him.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-145" type="given" value="PERCY"/>PERCY NEAL</persName> </hi>, manager of Messrs. Brabington, 298, Pentonville Road. Mr. Britton brought Eggena to our shop about December 12 or 15. Eggena had a large pear-shaped brilliant with him. He asked for a loan of £8,000. I offered £4,000. No business was done. Two or three days later he brought a pearl necklace on which he wanted a loan of £20,000. I offered £8,000, which he refused, saying he could not do with less than £12,000. He told me they were the pro
<lb/>perty of a well-known lady. I explained that if he accepted £8,000 we should have to have a title to the goods and there would have to be a special contract. No business was done. He called again on Decem
<lb/>ber 24, when he pawned a diamond necklace (Exhibit 1) for £450 in the name of Barr. He gave us his address, Hotel Russell, and three other addresses, also his solicitor's. He said the jewels belonged to La Milo. He also pledged other jewels on January 12. I believe he asked £1,500; I advanced £1,200. He said they belonged to La Milo. I said I should want her authority; he had better go back and get a letter, which he did. On January 20 we advanced him £200 on two brilliants. On January 22 he called with Miss Montague to purchase a large tiara and other goods valued at £10,000. They were to call the following week to pay and take up the goods. They have not done so.</p>
<p>Mr. Marshall Hall and Mr. Elliott cross-examined as to the value of the jewellery.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-146" type="given" value="WILLIAM EDWARD"/>WILLIAM EDWARD WOOD</persName> </hi>, jeweller, 18, Brook Street, W. I first met Eggena early in 1909 in connection with the promotion of an emerald mine. Subsequently other business matters were mentioned and at the completion of a business in November I had a conversation with him as to supplying him with jewellery. The negotiations Mr. Telfer has spoken of were conducted by him entirely, with my knowledge. I was in Paris in November and heard of the proposal for giving the motor cars which were said to have been bought from the Ariel Company as security. Shortly after the receipt of the letter of November 12 (Exhibit 18) I went with Eggena and Miss Montague to the Motor House. Eggena there showed me the 25 cars. He said they were his absolutely and he would hand them over to me. Miss Montague remained outside in the car. I was present when Eggena made the statutory declaration. On the same day I saw him sign the</p>
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<p>delivery order, Exhibit 23. Eggena brought Exhibit 21 signed by Easton on the 18th, saying the cars had no lien on them. After Telfer and I had read it we said we must have a receipt showing the cars had been delivered into my name. Miss Montague was not then present; she was brought in afterwards. Telfer explained the affidavit to her and said Eggena had done all he could in the matter. The same evening Miss Montague came and was very much annoyed that she could not take the jewellery away and did not see why the Motor House should raise such difficulties. In consequence of what Telfer said I refused to let the jewellery go. On the 19th I went to the Hotel Russell in consequence of a telephone message, when Eggena handed me the receipt purporting to be signed by Easton. Next morning I gave it to Telfer. He telephoned to Easton. I was there. He said, "Is that Mr. Easton?" Apparently he got a reply in the affirmative. He read this document twice. I was standing by the telephone. As he got the reply he repeated it to me by degrees. On that I delivered part of the jewellery that day and the rest in the following week. I took receipts for it. The prices charged were all agreed by Eggena or Miss Montague. They were quoted to her. The diamond drop necklace I let Eggena have for about two hours to show his solicitor about December 15, with the ultimate idea of taking it to his father in Germany. He said his solicitors were Herbert Smith and Co., London Wall. He said Mr. Smith was a connoisseur and a collector. He returned it, saying that Mr. Smith said it was worth £20,000 to anyone who wanted such a stone. I did not let him have it again. He asked for it on many occasions. He wanted to leave it with his solicitor for two or three days. I would not allow it. I offered to deliver it myself. A similar thing happened with a large pearl necklace shortly after that. He took it and brought it back, saying Mr. Smith said it was a very fine necklace, but nothing was mentioned about price. It was worth roughly £20,000 to £25,000 to sell. He wanted to take both to his father in Germany, promising to pay me part cash and a draft on the Dresdner Bank. I said if he did that he could take them away and if they were not sold he could return the to me. The money did not come and the draft did not come. The first I heard of them being pawned was at Bow Street. January 10 was the date fixed for payment of this jewellery. I saw Eggena almost daily until the time of these proceedings pressing for payment. He simply made excuses. Something was said about return
<lb/>ing the jewels, but nothing definite was done. I consulted my solicitor on February 3. Eggena gave me £200 on November 29 as an earnest of good faith to reopen an introduction that had been made four or six months previously with Count Ward. I introduced Eggena to him early in 1909. They had some negotiations which fell through. I had nothing to do with that business.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Marshall Hall. I am the prosecutor in this case and took proceedings on my own free will. Nobody else is responsible at all. I say emphatically Telfer is my manager; before that he was my assistant. He has no interest or share in the business.</p>
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<p>It is ray business entirely. My solicitor, Mr. Leviansky, is Telfer's brother. When I started the business I had sufficient capital of my own. I do not account to anyone in the world for the transactions which take place. I was not anxious that the dealings with Eggena should not be known by Telfer. I kept nothing from Telfer willingly. The jewellery was parted with absolutely on the faith of the security on the motor-cars. Eggena and I became acquainted first over the valuation of some emeralds. I had not seen Eggena when I made the valuation. I do not remembering valuing 851 carats of rough emeralds for the purpose of advising Mr. King whether or not they were good security for £500. (Letter handed to witness.) That is my writing. I do not remember it even now. The emeralds I valued were not worthless. (Sealed bag of emeralds handed to witness, who was asked to cut the seal and state whether they were worth 30s. or 40s. a carat or 30 or 40 pence. On the learned Judge saying that, in his opinion, it was not material the witness refused. Mr. Marshall Hall then put to the witness that owing to his valuation being abso
<lb/>lutely unreliable Eggena was unable to carry through a good piece of business in the emerald mines.) I know nothing at all about it. It is all news to me entirely. I had nothing to do with the Galician oil
<lb/>fields business. I was not doing a big business on the Stock Exchange. In the spring of 1909 I introduced Eggena to Count Ward in the matter of a cold storage in South London on which Count Ward wanted a large loan. It was not my business. I left it for Count Ward to do. I knew Eggena had rich relations. Telfer let Eggena have some jewellery in May, I believe; he went out with Telfer to show this jewellery. He never did trust him with it. This invoice is in Telfer's writing; he can get what goods he likes on approbation and do what he likes with them as long as he shows a profit. I never heard that the lady at Thames Ditton was Mrs. Pearce. I was not threatened with an action in connection with my valuation of the emeralds. I did not tell Eggena I only wanted the security on the cars as a matter of form; I wanted the cars delivered to me. I did not intend to take them away. When the Ariel car transaction came along I did not tell Eggena that if he gave some sort of security that would satisfy Telfer. I did not say "Telfer will think it strange I am dealing with you as he knows you are bankrupt, and the jewellery ought to be in Miss Montague's name; therefore we had better have some security." There was no such conversation. He told me nothing about the Ariel cars. All I know was when the Receiver came in and I was not satis
<lb/>fied. I was in Paris a good deal at the time of the jewellery trans
<lb/>action. After I came back I went one night to the Hotel Russell. Miss Montague had on the jewellery and asked me how it looked. I suggested it would look better on another gown and that she had better have it stitched on. The maid got nervous as time was press
<lb/>ing and I stitched it on her dress. I did not say to Eggena it did not matter what the security was as long as I had got something to show to Telfer. Exhibit 28 was signed in my presence. When I asked my solicitors to prepare the statutory declaration I asked them whether a man who was bankrupt could have 25 cars and I was given to under
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<p>I could take them as security. I do not remember Eggena telling me on February 5 the jewellery was in the hotel safe and I could have it, all back. I did not take the seal off the £2,000 necklace; it is more than I dare do. I did not afterwards replace it with Eggena's seal and say the pawnbrokers would not then know where the necklace came from. If Mr. Neal says it had not a grey seal on it and no blue ribbon then it could not have been the same necklace. I was not in the hotel when Freestone came with the money to my knowledge. I swear I did not go to Count Ward's with Eggena. That Eggena came to me and said in Telfer's presence that Telfer had demanded the money, and that I had said Eggena was to have the goods, and that Telfer said to me, "You never told me," and shrugged his shoulders and walked away, is another lie.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Sir F. Low. I only saw Easton in the police court. I had no direct communication with him of any sort. I was present twice when Telfer telephoned him. I was on fairly intimate terms with Eggena, and we went to a good many places together, but never came across Easton. Eggena telephoned me to go round to the Hotel Russell for the receipt, No. 28. He did not explain why he did not come to me; he simply gave me the receipt. It was usual for him to say would I go to see him. The message came about six or seven o'clock. I saw Eggena at the top of the lounge at the hotel. He said, "I have got the receipt at last; here you are." I saw it was signed" Easton," did not read it, arid took it to the shop next morn
<lb/>ing; I did not give a thought to the signature being different; I thought I was dealing with an honest man. Next morning I said to Telfer, "Here is the receipt at last." The business up to that point had been done by Telfer. I went to see Eggena the night before because he said, "Will you come down yourself?" I went; I do not know why. There was no reason why Telfer should not have gone. I think I told Telfer I was going. I had not the slightest suspicion. Telfer is more suspicious than I am of anyone, and he suggested tele
<lb/>phoning to the Motor House, which we did. I do not take a note of telephone messages unless they are about something which I must do at a later date. Whenever Telfer telephones and it is business concerning me he repeats the conversation to me.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Elliott. I knew Eggena six months before I saw Miss Montague. I can hardly say how the jewellery transaction began; it was reported to me by Telfer. Miss Montague was never at the shop by herself. When we went to the Motor House in the car Eggena and I got out and Miss Montague remained in the car. On November 18 there were two interviews with Miss Montague at my shop in the presence of Eggena. At the one in the evening she showed considerable impatience.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-147" type="given" value="SAMPSON"/>SAMPSON BRITTON</persName> </hi>, jeweller, 18, Houndsditch. I have known Easton four or five years. About the middle of December he told me he had sold some cars to a gentleman, and had taken a deposit of £300, and had given a certain date that these cars should be cleared, but he believed the gentleman was short of money at that time and required a temporary loan. He said he had a terrible lot of jewellery, and</p>
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<p>asked me if I knew anybody who would lend money on it. I suggested Brabington's. He said he expected Barr (the name I knew Eggena by) to be at his place later on, and would let me know when he was there. I believe Easton told me if Barr got the loan on the jewels it was to be used to pay the deposit on the cars. I was told Barr was at the Motor House, and went there and saw him for the first time. He took a white diamond from his pocket; he made some remark about it, and then we went to Brabington's. That was about December 15. He asked a loan of £8,000, Neal offered £4,000, which was refused. Two days later I met him again at Brabington's. He then wanted to pledge a pearl necklace for £12,000; Neal offered £8,000. No busi
<lb/>ness was done. That was the last time I saw Eggena.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Sir F. Low. Mr. Easton is a perfectly respect
<lb/>able man. He did not tell me that Eggena had offered to deposit the jewels with him. I do not recollect saying at the police court, "I believe Easton did say that Eggena wanted to deposit the jewels with him." If I said so it must be right. I remember Easton saying that was not his way of doing business, and that he did not know anything about jewels. The only jewels Eggena showed me were the pearl neck
<lb/>lace and the diamond drop. The necklace had no clasp.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-149" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROOKS</persName> </hi>, cashier, London County and Westminster Bank. I identify cheque for £450, drawn by Brabington on December 24. It was paid out by £430 in notes and £20 in gold. These are two of the notes I gave out.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-150" type="given" value="ADELE"/>ADELE FASANO</persName> </hi> ladies dressmaker, 9, Leicester Place, W. I know Miss Montague. I received these two £50 notes from her on Decem
<lb/>ber 24 in payment of an account she owed.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Elliott. Eggena was there also. When I came downstairs the notes were on the table. I did not see who put them there. My wife told me Eggena gave them to her.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY FOWLER</hi>, C Division. I was present at Bow Street when the witness Frestone was examined. His deposition was taken in the usual way and all the defendants had an opportunity of cross-examining him. (Deposition read.) I arrested Eggena on a warrant at 12.45 a.m. on February 6. I was with Sergeant Williams. I told him we were police officers. He was about to enter the Hotel Russell. I read the warrant to him. He said, "I deny it and can give my reasons." The charge was read to him at Bow Street. In reply he said, "I understand, but deny it." I searched him and found upon him a £10 note, £3 gold, a quantity of memoranda, and one pawn
<lb/>ticket. On February 7 I saw the female defendant at Bow Street Police Court. I read the warrant to her. She said, "Yes, sir." She was charged and made no reply. I might say she was then with her solicitor.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM</hi>, C Division. I saw Easton at the Motor House at midday on February 7. I said, 'I am a police officer</p>
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<p>and have a summons to serve on you." He said, "Is this an infor
<lb/>mation against me? I know nothing about it, except the man Eggena called here to buy some cars. I put them on one floor for him as he requested. I then told him when he next called I wanted, a deposit. He gave me a cheque for £300 drawn by Montague—you know, Milo. I will come with you now."</p>
<p>Mr. Elliott submitted that the evidence disclosed no case against Miss Montague.</p>
<p>Judge Lumley Smith. I do not think I can stop the case.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-151" type="given" value="FERDINAND"/>FERDINAND EGGENA</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I was born in Germany and was taken when quite a child to America. I came to England first in 1899. I was in Burma from 1900 to 1908. I first met Mr. Wood in reference to an emerald mine about May, 1908. The matter was brought to me by a Mr. King, who wanted to raise money to develop and work the mine. Before taking any interest in it I wanted to see what the mine was worth. Several bags of emeralds were produced and a valuation which had been given by Mr. Wood. I asked Wood if he had given this valuation and was it genuine. He said "Yes." His valuation of the stones was 30s. to 40s. a carat. On the faith of that document and his assurance with regard to the emeralds I took to my solicitors the bag of 851 carats and they introduced me to Rodriquez of Hatton Garden. They broke the seal. I told Wood the result of their examination, that they were absolutely worthless. This bag that Wood declined to open is one of the bags. He said as an excuse that, of course, there was a ring of Hatton Garden stonecutters, and they would not make any sort of valuation. Shortly after that he showed me some papers in regard to Galician oilfields and asked me if I could do anything with them. He said he had many good things of that description brought to him by friends on the Stock Exchange or somewhere. I went very deeply into the matter, but was not able to carry the business through. He next took me to Mr. Marks, 5, London Wall. This was about introducing friends to underwrite an African copper mine. About the same time he introduced me to Count Ward. Evidently he had asked Wood to raise £20,000 on some cold storage building. I might have done that business if there had been anything satisfactory arranged. I had been spending money rather freely and became bankrupt. My uncle gave me a considerable amount of money; I do not know how much. I discussed my bankruptcy with Wood. Miss Montague never lived at Thames Ditton. The lady at Thames Ditton I had known a great many years. She was an absolute judge of the stones that come from India and Burma and other places. The umbrella which was supposed to come from King Thebaw was the prin
<lb/>cipal part of the whole thing. The goods were all returned to Mr. Wood. I did not have the whole lot at one time in my possession. Miss Montague is my wife. I think I introduced her to Wood about February 4, 1909. I did not speak about my aunt to Wood, and certainly not to Telfer, as I looked upon him as an ordinary salesman.</p>
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<p>Wood often suggested to me that I should buy jewellery; he was keen for me to get all the business I could for him and later to join him in partnership and get rid of Telfer. We were going to get rid of the shop and take rooms opposite the Carlton. I told him La Milo was my wife. I showed him some of her jewellery—two diamond drops. He said one of them was a coal mine, full of black spots and not worth much. He said he could replace them at a very low figure. Miss Montague was outside in the car. I would be shopping or driving in the Park with Miss Montague and would come back through New Bond Street and stop on business to see Wood. She refused to go inside. Telfer or Wood would try to induce her to come inside and look at jewellery. If she did not go they would take things to the car. I could not say they were pressing her to buy; they were pressing me to buy things to present to my wife, and this jewellery I picked out and she looked at it afterwards. I told Wood I had not any money at the present moment; he knew that I could not have very much money. He said it did not make any difference, he was not hard up for the money, I could put off any payment. He did not say what his relations with Telfer were at this time, but afterwards he said he did not wish Telfer to know what he was doing; he wanted to do things privately. Wood never came to the place we were first living at. It may have been earlier than the beginning of October that I discussed with Wood the motor cars. The Ariel Company were in bankruptcy and anxious to sell a quantity of cars at very reasonable rates. They gave me to under
<lb/>stand I could leave them on their premises till I had disposed of them. I had arranged to pay them a deposit of £300 or £400. I found out afterwards that the liquidator had sold some of the cars; there was a dispute and the transaction fell through. I told Wood I had paid or intended to pay a deposit of £300 or £400. I never represented to him that I had bought them out and out. About October there was the Utah Bingham gamble. He said he could get these shares at about 6s. 6d. and in a very short time they would go up to £3 or £4. This was all contemporaneous with the Ariel business and the introduc
<lb/>tion to Miss Montague.</p>
<p>(Friday, April 29.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-152" type="given" value="FERDINAND"/>FERDINAND EGGENA</persName> </hi>, recalled, further examined. Between October 21 and November 12 the Ariel deal went off. The letter of November 12 was practically dictated by Easton to me for Miss Montague because she had lent me the £300 to pay to Easton. I wished to transfer the money from the Ariel deal and Easton would not do it without the authority of the person who signed the cheque. The letter to Telfer on the same date was written because he had made inquiries and said the Ariel deal was not satisfactory. Wood came to me because Telfer was suspicious and wished me to write a letter so that Telfer could be bluffed. He practically dictated it. Telfer went to the Motor House on November 14 or 15 and had an interview with Easton. On the 16th I saw him and Wood at Brook Street. On that day I got Exhibit 22</p>
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<p>from Easton. That morning when I saw Wood he had the statutory declaration written out. I made some remarks about it and he asked me to go across Regent Street somewhere to sign it in front of someone. I told him at the time I did not see how it could be of value as I was an undischarged bankrupt. I do not know if Telfer heard that. Wood said it did not make any difference; the whole thing was a matter of form. On the 19th Wood came to the Hotel Russell and I had Exhibit 28 in my possession unsigned. I told him Easton had refused to sign it and, as Wood explained to me, he only wanted it as a matter of form—it seemed to me everything was wanted as a matter of form—and asked me to sign it; I did so. I had been to The Motor House with this document which I had from Wood; he wrote out the exact words. It was about lunch time. Easton was annoyed at getting letters typed as a matter of form. He said his typists were out and handed me this sheet of paper and told me to get it typed out myself, which I did. I showed that document to Easton about four o'clock and he refused to sign it. I told him on the telephone that I had signed it, and in order to cover myself I asked for this receipt, showing that I had handed the document over with his knowledge. I never suggested to Telfer or Wood that I was in a position to hand over the cars; the idea is ridiculous. The jewellery was delivered by Wood personally without Telfer's knowledge; he took them out at night after Telfer left. We used to go motor rides and places of entertainment together. We went to the Gaiety on the night of the visit of the King of Portugal. Wood came late that afternoon and stayed to dinner. Miss Montague was dressing. She intended to put on a brooch. Wood came upstairs and asked about pinning on the jewellery as he knew all about pinning jewellery on ladies and the best way to do it. I believe I went down-stairs to the hotel safe, where we kept the jewels, to get a stomacher. When I came back Wood said he was annoyed that Miss Montague wore a dress with imitation pearls because it did not show off his jewel
<lb/>lery to its full extent, and suggested the plaque should go on the neck, and as a matter of fact pinned it all over her. I was very much annoyed at his action in the matter. She wore the jewellery. It was sold and invoiced to me. Wood told me there was a big diamond drop in the market that he was desirous of getting for Miss Montague. He drew up a design showing how he was going to put it on a necklace or chain with other diamonds. Finally he brought the drop to me, gave it to me. He wanted to get money on it. This was the time the necklace thing came up or shortly after. Wood had got himself tied up on the Stock Exchange with Utah Bingham shares; they were bought at about 14s. and had gone down to 6s. 6d. Count Ward, who was supposed to be the leading spirit in these shares, could not move because he had not sufficient money, and if £1,000 or £1,500 could be put in immediately it would raise these shares up. They wanted to buy a few thousand shares out of the market. I was to have 50 per cent., Ward 25 per cent., and Wood 25 per cent, of the profits. I never told Wood I wanted jewels to show my solicitor. I could not accept Neal's offer of £4,000 because I wanted £8,000 for</p>
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<p>the share deal. Not getting the money, I returned it to Wood. The pearl necklace came up before that, but he only received it at this time; he had to get it from somebody outside. He said it was worth £25,000. I went with it to Brabington's. It had a grey seal when Wood received it, and he told me if the string was removed he would have to pay for the necklace, and if I showed it to anyone with the object of getting money on it they would be able to trace it back to the owner. The necklace is strung on silk, there is a small knot on each side, and there is a small seal. Wood pulled the chain down a certain extent and cut the silk band; he took another piece of silk, twisted it round and somehow sewed it on to a white thing and took my ring off my finger and sealed it with ordinary sealing wax, a bluish colour. It had that seal on it when I took it to Neal. I asked £20,000 and he offered £8,000. I returned it to Wood. If I had wanted to steal it I could have gone abroad with it several times. I went to Germany with Miss Montague in December, just before Wood went to Paris. Wood wanted my address in Hamburg. I said, "Eggena, Hamburg," would find me. I knew Wood was hard up. I received a telegram from him in the morning and immediately replied to it. In the after
<lb/>noon I went to Berlin and got a loan of £400 on a piece of jewellery. Miss Montague could not pawn it; she does not understand a word of German. I got it in 10 mark notes. I intended to change them into notes at Charing Cross, but it was late in the afternoon and I had to take gold. I have paid Wood altogether about £700. As to the £1,200 from Brabington's, Wood and Count Ward were very hard put to get £1,000 immediately to take the Utah Bingham shares out of the market. I told them I had not any ready money, and the only thing I could do was to take the jewellery out of the safe and raise money. I left Wood in the Hotel Russell while I went to Brabington's. I came back to get a letter of authority. I did not wish to tell Miss Montague I was pawning this jewellery I had got from Wood, so I told her I could get more money from Neal on the jewellery already pawned with Vaughan and wanted her authority to get it trans
<lb/>ferred. Wood and I drove with the money to Count Ward, to whom I gave the money. Miss Montague was very much against my hand
<lb/>ling Stock Exchange business, but Wood kept assuring her.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Sir F. Low. Mr. Wood never wished for a clean re
<lb/>ceipt for the cars; he only wanted something to bluff Telfer. I had seen Easton use the rubber stamp. When I wrote his signature I had not a specimen in front of me. I did it from memory.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Avory. I don't remember whose motor-car we went in to Thames Ditton or the chauffeur. The address there was "The Hollies," Somers Road. The lady there was a friend of mine. I do not see why her name should be dragged through the newspapers. My counsel mentioned it once. Mr. Telfer pressed me to go there. I do not think I paid a deposit to the Ariel Company. I do not remember telling Miss Montague what I wanted the £300 for. I might have told her I wanted it for The Motor House. I do not know how the cheque was filled up. To the best of my belief I asked for</p>
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<p>£300 for the purchase of some cars. She was not inquisitive enough to ask what cars or where I was going to buy them. It did not interest her at all. The receipts were wanted to fool Telfer—for Wood to show Telfer he had something in return for the jewellery. I did not understand what was in Wood's brain. He wanted the thing and got it. I had some of the jewellery before the receipt was signed.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-153" type="given" value="PERCY HOLLAND"/>PERCY HOLLAND EASTON</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I live at "Somer
<lb/>lees," East Finchley, and am a director of "The Motor House," Euston Road. The company's business is the largest of its kind in England. I became acquainted with Miss Montague and Eggena early last year. Eggena called once when the Ariel Company was in liquidation and asked me to get into negotiation with them for some cars to ship to Australia. A deposit was paid, but the matter fell through. On November 11 he said he had people who wanted to buy £7,000 to £10,000 worth of cars for shipment to Australia. I under
<lb/>stood it was a speculation for his friends. I suggested we should sell him our own stock. He thought it was a feasible arrangement, and we spent nearly a whole day selecting 25 cars. They amounted to £7,800. He offered £7,000, which I accepted. Next day it was arranged that the cheque for £300, which had been given as deposit in the Ariel matter, should be applied for the purchase of our cars, and I asked him to get a letter from Miss Montague. Exhibit 43 is her authority for the transfer. He asked me to put the cars all on one floor. I had them put in the storage department. The balance was to be paid in 14 days. On November 14, Eggena came with Telfer. I had never seen Telfer before. Eggena said, "Where are my cars?" I said, "On the first floor of the new building "; pointing to the back part of the premises. They went upstairs. About a quarter of an hour after
<lb/>wards I joined them. Telfer was not introduced to me, and I had no conversation with him. I thought his name was Wood. I did not know it was Telfer until I was at Bow Street. If he had said, "Are these Eggena's cars?" I should probably have said "Yes." They were not mine. I had given an option on them for 14 days. On November 16 Eggena said to me, "My agent has got the money ready to pay the balance; before he does so I want to know are they all your property; are there any liens on them." I said they were all our pro
<lb/>perty, and we could give a good title. He then produced a paper, and said, "Well, sign that then." That is Exhibit 27. As between me and Eggena there was no lien. The last clause in the letter, as I drafted it, was "and the cars will be handed over to you or your order upon payment of the balance, £6,700." He did not want that figure to appear as the agent would know the profit he was making, so it was altered to "as arranged." When we substituted "as arranged" for the figures it was suggested by me or my co-director that we had better take a letter from Eggena, so that there should be no misunderstanding, saying the cars would not be delivered until we had the balance of the money. Until Eggena brought No. 27 I had not heard the name of Wood. Eggena gave me the idea that he was the shipping agent who was going to hand</p>
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<p>over the money to me for the cars. Later that day Eggena telephoned to say the letter I signed was no good and that Wood wanted the cars in his name. I said, "I shall be willing to transfer your interest in them if necessary." In the evening he came up and I wrote that letter, No. 22, and gave it to him. Next day he telephoned saying everything was ready and the money would be paid over and Wood was sending his man down to get the receipt for the cars. On the 17th Telfer came and handed me an order from Eggena saying, "Please deliver the cars over to Mr. Wood." Eggena had pre
<lb/>viously telephoned to say he would settle in the afternoon and some
<lb/>body from Wood's would come down. Telfer called; I took out all the documents and read them again. I said, "They are all right, only you are a little too soon." He said, "Why read the documents; you cannot object; there is no lien or claim." I said, "That letter is addressed to Eggena, nothing to do with you. As a matter of fact, I have not got my money. It will be all right; don't be alarmed." He said, "I can tell you one thing; it is a matter of £20,000 between Wood and Eggena, unless I get the transfer." I said, "You will not get any transfer till I get my money." As to Telfer telling me that Eggena was buying jewellery and giving the cars as security, he must have dreamt that part of it; he did not tell me. We dis
<lb/>cussed as to the cars being free of claims or lien, and I said even after I had been paid for them I should have to look to somebody for the work done on them, and he would have to stand in Eggena's place and be responsible for that. At that time I looked upon Eggena as a good customer and did not want to offend him. I consulted my solicitor and wrote the letter of the 17th in accordance with his advice. I gave the letter to Dudden to give to Telfer. The letter to Eggena I posted. On November 18 Eggena called. He said the agent was putting obstacles in the way and the cars must be in the agent's name. I said I would transfer his interest in them. He then wrote the letter of November 18: "This authorises you to transfer my interest in the 25 cars to Mr. Wood, but this will not interfere with our arrange
<lb/>ment." At that time I did not know Mr. Wood was a jeweller. I told Eggena I could not possibly give a receipt in full for cars he had not paid for. I did not see Exhibit 28 till I got to the police-court. The signature on it is not mine. I did not give Eggena the paper for the purpose of getting it typewritten outside. Eggena never telephoned me that he had signed a receipt in my name and I did not reply, "All right, old chap." On the 19th Eggena called about 6.45. He started by saying he must have a clean receipt. I said I could not possibly give him one. He said he was tired of Mr. Wood and would have to make other arrangements—run over to Germany and get the money from his father, and that would settle the whole thing. He had produced jewellery before this. He produced a lot of jewellery then from almost every pocket. He said, "Give me a receipt, as I want to show it and clear up the deal somehow." I said I could not do it. He said, "Are you afraid to trust me." I said, "As a matter of fact, I am." He said, "If you are afraid to trust me I am not afraid to trust you." He said the jewellery was his wife's and worth £20,000. I would not have it in the safe a moment. I told him to</p>
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<p>take it away. When I got the summons I remembered Mr. Wood in connection with the cars. I thought, "Good gracious, he is a jewel
<p>(Saturday, April 30.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-154" type="given" value="PERCY HOLLAND"/>PERCY HOLLAND EASTON</persName> </hi>, recalled, further examined. Up to the time I had the rubber stamp made I was in the habit of signing my name "Percy Easton." About December 13 he brought some jewel
<lb/>lery. He said he had £20,000 worth, and would be quite willing as the option time was expiring to get a loan on it and pay me off. He asked if I know somebody outside the pawnbroking business who would lend money. Mr. Britton occurred to me. I saw him, told him, of our transaction with Eggena, and that he wanted me to see if I could find somebody to advance money on a large lot of jewellery. I subse
<lb/>quently introduced Britton to Eggena. They afterwards went to Brabington's, but no business resulted then. On February 4 I was telephoned by somebody from Woods. He said, "Have you got Mr. Eggena's car?" I replied, "He has taken it away." He then said, "I mean the 25 cars." I said, "Who are you?" He said, "I am Wood." I said, "I have not got any 25 cars of yours." He said, "What do you mean; they should be in my name." I said, "No, you never let me have a properly signed order transferring them to your name." He said, "Yes, they are in my name in your place." I said, "No, they are not," and we interrupted one another. He finally said, "We will see about that; you will hear from my solicitor."</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Marshall Hall. There is a good market for the sale of second-hand cars in the Colonies. At the price Eggena bought from me he could have made a considerable profit. I first saw Wood at Bow Street. I did not know Eggena was bankrupt. I am surprised Telfer did not tell me. Had I known it I should not have entered into this transaction. Miss Montague had nothing whatever to do with it. Eggena was going to borrow money on the big stone to pay me for the cars. He told me he had a £40,000 deal on in the City, and expected to borrow £18,000 or £20,000. He asked me for the note to take to Wood saying, "With regard to the receipt handed to you." That is a tricky letter, and I was had. Eggena is charging me with fraud in order to clear himself.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Avory. The first I heard of Eggena signing my name to the receipt was in the cell at Bow Street. He told me. I asked him what he meant by doing such a thing. He said, "I did not really do it with the intention of doing any harm, but that fellow Wood said he must have it." He did not then say that he had telephoned to tell me he had done it. He told me he had signed the document in the presence of Wood. Wood made him do it. He did not say Wood had telephoned to me to know if it was all right. In November he offered to deposit jewellery with me for two hours. That was for the purpose of inducing me to give a receipt showing the cars were paid for, and he had a clear title. I did not look in a directory to see if Wood was a shipping agent. I had the greatest confidence in</p>
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<p>Eggena. He said he had cabled to Australia; the principal was already in London with the agent, and when the agent received a cable from Australia to pay the money over the agent would pay me the cheque. I never expected to get the money from Eggena. I under
<lb/>stood Wood was the agent. Telfer gave me Wood's address. On November 17 somebody from Wood telephoned, "The letter is not good enough for us"—something like that. On November 19 Eggena drafted a receipt in pencil and said, "This is the kind of thing Mr. Wood wants." I signed Exhibit 21 on November 16. I understood Eggena wanted that to confirm a guarantee I had given him verbally. He wanted to show it to his agent, so that he could send me on the money. It is addressed to Eggena and says, "We beg to say that these cars have no lien or claim whatever upon them." That was as between Eggena and me. Nobody else had a lien. On November 22 Eggena said, "When are you going to give me an order transferring the cars to Wood?" I said I had not transferred the names in the books. I have no recollection of a telephone message from Wood or Telfer on November 20. Telfer did not see me about November 27. I did not speak to him after the 17th. On two or three occasions subsequently I saw him wandering about the premises.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-156" type="given" value="PANSY"/>PANSY MONTAGUE</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I am a native of Australia. I came to England in 1906. I had then already earned considerable gums of money in my profession. I was introduced to Eggena at Mar
<lb/>seilles. He boarded the ship at Aden, but I did not see him till we got to Marseilles. He travelled to England over land, and I saw him at Tilbury on my arrival. I came over with my manager. My income has been nearly £5,000 a year. I have a current engagement at the Pavilion Music Hall, which is suspended owing to these proceedings. I went through a ceremony of marriage with Eggena at the Grand Hotel, Birmingham. I do not know where Thames Ditton is. In October last I was living at the Hotel Russell. Eggena was staying with me. I think I paid the expenses there. I had £3,000 worth of my own diamonds. At the beginning of October, 1909, I was up at Leicester and Eggena asked me if I would come down to see Mr. Wood. I went to Wood's shop with Eggena and my maid. Wood and Telfer showed me some emeralds, which I thought were glass beads. They said they were worth £500. I said I did not want them. They were shown me out of curiosity. Mr. Wood had a large ornament for the neck, the price of which was £8,000. He said, "I should like to make you one like this." I said, "I did not wish the thing." I returned to Leicester and came back the same week. I went to Mr. Wood's again. On both occasions he showed me two tiaras and one or two corsage ornaments. Mr. Wood came to the hotel frequently and brought every time rings or something from out of his pocket to show me. I thought he wanted me to buy his whole shop. I had not bought anything from him up to that time. I never mentioned my business to either Wood or Telfer. On November 10 I gave Eggena a cheque for £300 to pay Easton as a deposit on some cars. I had</p>
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<p>seen Mr. Easton once then, when I took a friend to see a car, and then I saw him once afterwards. After I had given Eggena the £300 he said Easton would like me to see over the showrooms. I went. t that time I knew nothing of the arrangement between Easton and Eggena as to cars. I do not know what it is all about now. On November 13 I was outside Mr. Wood's premises. Eggena had gone inside. I think Mr. Wood was in Paris. Telfer came out and asked me would I go inside. He showed me some ornaments which he said were wanted for the King of Portugal, but he wanted me to have them. I said nothing. I never spoke a word about any
<lb/>thing to Telfer. I never selected anything from Mr. Wood. No value was ever mentioned of any jewels shown to me. Telfer and Wood have said many wicked things. I was not cross on one occasion, pro
<lb/>testing about the delay in delivery of the jewels. I did not want the jewels; they were just thrown at me. I have never had any invoice or bill. I would not understand what an invoice meant. I have not been asked for payment by either Wood or Telfer. I remember Wood calling on November 20 with a diamond heart. My maid brought him upstairs. He would not give this to Eggena. He wished to hand it to me personally. Eggena said, "Will you give Mr. Wood a receipt?" Wood said, "Do not bother about the receipt," but I think I wrote out on a small card a receipt. Then Wood said, "I do not like the chain on it. I must change it." The diamond heart was left with me. Eggena had charge of my jewels and used to lock them up in the safe. I trusted him with everything; there was no reason why I should not. I had no key of the safe. On November 22, be
<lb/>tween 6 and 7 in the evening, Wood came to the hotel with several articles of jewellery. I gave him receipts. He told me to put them on. Mr. Wood said he wished to see the tiara on. I had my hair dressed specially for it. He said it was beautiful. When he handed it I said to him, "Oh, how good of you," or some little remark like that. He said, "It is not good of me; it is Mr. Eggena. It is a business transaction between Mr. Eggena and myself," or words to that effect. One day Eggena told me he was going to transfer some jewels of mine he had pledged from one shop to another, as he could get more money there, but he could not do so without an authority from me. I gave it to him. Eggena said Wood was pushed for money. I lent him my diamond neck chain and he told me he war giving the money to Wood. After he had pawned it we went to Wood's shop. Mr. Eggena pulled out the £200 in notes and handed it to Wood. I have not seen the German pawnticket before. Eggena never told me about it. Just before Christmas I remember being outside Wood's shop. Wood said he was sick and tired of Telfer being sick; that he was going to get rid of him after Christmas. Then I think he brought out a large diamond drop and two pearl necklaces. He said he would like me to have the dia
<lb/>mond drop, but I did not particularly wish it. I thought it would look vulgar. Eggena said, "You ought to take this." I said, "It is no good to me." Wood said, "I want to send it over to the Kaiser; you had better decide whether you have it or whether I send it." Wood said the diamond necklace was worth £30,000. I think I laughed and said, "Well, I think I prefer the £30,000." He said the drop</p>
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<p>was worth £15,000; he could get it for £10,000. They were never left in my possession and I never had them. Eggena never mentioned to me the pawning of the tiara. A day or two before Christmas I went to pay a bill to my dressmaker, nearly £100. I had promised Madam Fasano a Christmas cake. I took the cake along and asked for my bill. I had my cheque-book with me. Eggena said, "Do not bother about the cheque." He took two £50 notes out from his pocket and handed them to Madam. I think she went upstairs for her husband to write out the receipt. He came down afterwards. I did not know where the notes came from. Early in January Eggena said to me, "I am awfully sorry for Wood. He is in a bad state of finances." I said, "Why does he not go to his rich friend, Lord Northcliffe?" He represented that Lord Northcliffe was a particular friend of his. Eggena said, "All right; I will tell him about that." I said to Wood, "Why do you not ask Lord Northcliffe?" He said, "You know, although Lord Northcliffe is worth eight millions he cannot put his hand on £1,000 now." I thought it was awfully funny that a man with eight millions could not put his hand on £1,000. After that Eggena said to me, "I am disgusted with Wood, what do you think he wanted me to ask you?—to raise money on your contracts or give a discount bill." I do not understand discount bills. I said, "I cannot raise money on my contracts. My manager has those." I disliked Wood after that. I do not know that as the result of the authority I wrote transferring my jewellery that other jewellery was pledged for £1,200. Mr. Eggena came up one morning about 10 o'clock in a great hurry. He said, "I am bringing a gentle
<lb/>man up; I want you to sign a document. It is all right, and I am in such a hurry because Wood is waiting downstairs for me in a taxi." I was not dressed. My maid was there, and brought this gentleman to the door. Eggena handed me the paper, and being flustered and excited I just signed my name. I said, "What name shall I put," and he told me to sign "Mrs. F. Eggena." One day in December, Eggena said, "I want you to come down and see some things." He took me to Brabington's. I am fond of going round shops and looking at pretty things. Mr. Neale was there. He showed me a very fine tiara, and some other handsome articles. I only just looked at them. On February 2 I was staying at the Hotel Russell. I had made up my mind to leave there as I was getting tired of Wood and his friends coming. I did not wish people in the hotel to know I was "La Milo," and I thought I would go to a more quiet hotel. I had arranged to leave on the following Monday. I was waiting to go out. I said to my maid, "See where Mr. Eggena is." She went, and returned say
<lb/>ing, "The page told me Mr. Wood is downstairs." I went down, and found Telfer there. I said, "I cannot wait any longer, and I want to go out." Eggena said, "Go upstairs and wait; I am talking business with Mr. Telfer." I went upstairs. Nothing else was said to Telfer. At the time I left the Hotel Russell and went to Hans Crescent Hotel I had no idea there was any trouble connected with Eggena and Wood or Telfer. Until I went to Bow Street I had not the slightest idea there was any charge against myself.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Marshall Hall. I knew Eggena became bankrupt. His stepfather sent him £2,500. That was paid into my banking account as he could not have one of his own. The suggestion that I have paid Mr. Eggena is positively disgusting. I objected to Stock Exchange speculations which Wood suggested to Mr. Eggena. I quarrelled with Wood, and one day said I would not have him in my car.</p>
<p>(Monday, May 2.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-157" type="given" value="PANSY"/>PANSY MONTAGUE</persName> </hi> recalled (cross-examined by Mr. Avory). I knew Eggena was passing in the name of Barr. When Eggena asked me for £300 he said it was to pay a deposit on some motor-cars. He said nothing about how many cars. I did not trouble myself to ask. He told me nothing. Mr. Eggena dictated the letter to me, "As stated by Mr. Eggena yesterday the delay with the Ariel Co. is un
<lb/>satisfactory," etc. I thought Mr. Wood was forcing the jewellery on me. He explained it had nothing to do with me at all; it was a busi
<lb/>ness bargain between him and Eggena. If I wanted the jewellery I could have paid for it myself. I know nothing about who was going to pay for it. I did not know what Wood's motive was, but I think I know now. Mr. Wood was pushing this jewellery on me. I do not know what a pawnbroker is. It would have been better for the wit
<lb/>ness Freestone to have come here. I had no chance at Bow Street to defend myself. It is untrue that Freestone handed me £1,200. I contemplated leaving England about January 14. I do not know if Eggena contemplated leaving with me. In February, 1909, I had a flat in Maida Vale. I was living there with my mother and sister. The furniture from that flat was stored with the Old Times Furnishing Co. by myself. I have an action now pending with them. In that action I made an affidavit that I intended going to Australia, and wanted my evidence taken on commission, which was refused. I only saw Telfer once at the hotel. I did not hear Wood or Telfer ask Eggena for payment for the jewels. On February 3 when I came downstairs Telfer, Wood, and Eggena were laughing together. Eggena said he would not be very long, would I please go upstairs and wait a little while. Nothing was said about jewels. I did not ask Eggena what Telfer was there for. I was never at Brook Street twice on the same day. I never mentioned about being photographed in the jewels. Jewels do not come out well in photographs. Eggena never said any
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-158" type="given" value="COUNT"/>COUNT WARD</persName> </hi>, 6, Moorgate Street. Mr. Wood introduced me to, Eggena. The two documents produced are genuine, and signed by me. On January 12 I received £1,200 in notes. I afterwards in
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<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Avory. I had no idea the £1,200 had come from pawning jewellery obtained from Wood. Prior to that date I had no arrangement with Wood to the effect suggested in the letter. The document was drawn up on Eggena's suggestion and mine. I was selling to Eggena, Utah Bingham shares at a certain price, which he was to realise if possible at a profit. He subsequently purchased more</p>
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<p>of those shares. He has not paid for them. Wood was under no liability to pay. The shares went up in price, about 2s. each. Wood had no benefit from the sale that I know of. I did not get from Eggena 25 per cent, of the profits. The reason a letter from me to Eggena is addressed to Barr is that I inquired from him one night at the Hotel Russell, and could not find him. He afterwards told me he was known there as Barr.</p>
<p>Verdict, Easton and Montague,
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<p>(Thursday, April 28.)</p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. Frampton prosecuted; Mr. George Elliott, K. C. defended. Mr. Frampton, for the prosecution, stated that the explanation offered by prisoner was such that it would lead to a reasonable doubt of prisoner's wilful intention to swear falsely, the mistaken statements having been made in consequence of his not having kept proper books of account showing what payments he had made to certain artistes which he had obtained payment for by way of special damage in an action he had brought against "Playhouses, Limited," for breach of contract. The prisoner having agreed to forgo his rights under this judgment and to indemnify the prosecution for any costs they had been put to, he proposed to offer no evidence against him.</p>
<p>Ths Lordship assenting to this course, the jury returned a verdict of
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<p>Mr. Muir and Mr. Graham-Campbell prosecuted; Mr. Rooth defended.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-174" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED LUCY</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). On March 27 I gave my wife 1s. 9d. to go out and buy some food. About ten to 12 that night I found her in the "Globe" public house, in Battersea Park Road, in company with other men and women. I asked her if she was not going to get some food in for the next day (Sunday) and she threw a glass of beer in my face and would not come away. I went home, and when she came in she pulled the pictures off the wall and threw the vases at me, and as I picked up my coat to go out, as I have done before, she threw the poker at me and hit me in the back, and in the height of my temper I lost control of myself, and hit her with it. This is the first time I have ever been in front of a judge in my life. I was in the war in South Africa and I served for seven years in India, and received the medal and two bars, and I have been five years in the Militia.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JUDGE LUMLEY SMITH</hi>.</p>
<p>(Thursday, April 28)</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-176" type="given" value="JOHN"/>John McEvoy</persName>, a certain obscene book; obtaining and procuring certain obscene books for the purpose of publishing and selling them.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MR. JUSTICE A. T. LAWRENCE</hi>.</p>
<p>(Friday, April 29.)</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-179" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM NUTT</persName> </hi>, stage manager, Camberwell Empire Music Hall. Deceased had been with me three years as carpenter and general assistant before his death. As near as I can guess he was about 42 or 43. Prisoner had been employed as fireman for just over 12 months, his hours being from 6.30 to 8.30 next morning, during which time he would be in charge of the premises as fireman. On Friday evening, March 25, I was managing the stage for a concert, when at about 9 p.m. I noticed that prisoner had been drinking and I told him to pull him
<lb/>self together. Being busy I had not much time to talk to him. I did not see him again till 10.30 p.m., when he was intoxicated. I left the hall-keeper in charge. Prisoner went away and I did not see him any more. The next morning I reported him to the manager.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I believe he got on very well with all the men; I noticed nothing. He was a very respectably behaved man when he was sober and there was no friction at the theatre. He had been dis
<lb/>charged once before for drinking, and was taken back again. I was not there when Healey ordered him off the stage. I did not send for his wife on this March 25. I cannot tell you what happened to him after 10.30 p.m.</p>
<p>Re-examined. It was four or five months previous to this that he was discharged, and I think there was an interval of a day or night before he was taken back again. I asked the guv'nor to take him back because of his wife and children. He was not exactly drunk on that occasion; he had had a drink. Being a fireman he must be perfectly sober to attend to his duties. That was his only fault. I have never noticed him show signs of intemperance in business hours before or after that discharge until this occasion.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-180" type="given" value="PERCY"/>PERCY FORD</persName> </hi>, manager, Camberwell Empire, Music Hall. On March 26 Nutt made a report to me about prisoner. About 6.30 or seven that evening I saw him and discharged him. I thought that he was slightly intoxicated. I gave him no reason. He left the premises. At about 8 p.m. I saw him just inside the stage door alone. I told him to get away and he said he would wait for Jack (meaning the deceased) and get his own back. I told him to get off home and pushed him away. I should imagine he was slightly under the influence of drink, about the same as when I discharged him. He went away, and I saw no more of him that day. The next day I engaged a new fireman—Mills. Deceased had nothing to do with the prisoner's dismissal.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. So far as I know since he has been in my employ
<lb/>ment he has been a peaceable and well behaved man when sober, and has got on quite well with the rest of the staff. Before I was sent for</p>
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<p>I understood there had been a fight between prisoner and deceased, but he was alone when I saw him. We provide a uniform for the fireman, but whether prisoner was wearing ours or one of his own I do not know. Just after his discharge he waited for something and Nutt gave it to him, whatever it was.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-181" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN WOODGER</persName> </hi>, chief attendant, Camberwell Empire Music Hall. About 8 p.m. on March 26 I saw a crowd of about 20 people outside the stage door. I heard a voice which I recognised as the prisoner's; he was shouting in a threatening manner as though he was having a bother with someone; I did not hear the words. I returned to the main entrance and reported it.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. He was certainly excited. I did not notice deceased there. I think I should have noticed him if he had been there.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-182" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES GRAY</persName> </hi>, hall keeper, Camberwell Empire Music Hall. On the evening of March 26 I saw prisoner come through the stage door' when he came on duty to change his coat. He did so and went through to the stage. About 20 minutes afterwards he came out and said that he had got the "sack." He went back to the stage to get some of his clothes and then he came into my box to change his coat again. I saw him again when Ford brought him out. He went out of the stage door entrance. He then came back to the stage door and he met deceased as he was coming out. Prisoner got hold of deceased's arm and pulled it through the open half of the door. Prisoner was outside pulling the arm of the deceased, who was inside. I released the bolt from the fixed half of the door which had the effect of open
<lb/>ing it, with the result that they both fell on to the pavement. I did not notice any struggle. Deceased got up, and came inside, and went on to the stage to get on with his work; the performance had just started. I did not see prisoner again until between 11 and 12 a.m. on Sunday at the stage door. He said to me, "Where is old Jack?" I said, "On the stage clearing up." After about a minute Healey came through the stage door with a pail of rubbish to take out to the dustbin. After he had passed prisoner said to me, "Never mind, I will wait for him another evening," and then walked away. Between 11.30 or 11.45 p.m. the next evening, the performance having ceased, I was at the stage door when deceased cairn and said something to me, and then went towards the pit, which is practically on the ground level. I went to the stalls and the gallery exits which are also on the ground level. When at the gallery exit I heard deceased shouting; it seemed to me from the circle, "Charlie! Help me! Help me!" I ran to the circle and finding nothing there went down to the pit, where I saw at the side of the seats in the gangway deceased lying with some blood on the floor near him. There was no one else there. There. were two or three lights at the back of the pit, the rest having been turned off. Deceased said something to me and I said some
<lb/>thing to him. I went off to get some water for him and on my way I saw prisoner standing outside the stage door, half of which was open. I asked him if he had done anything to old Jack, and he said, "Yes,</p>
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<p>and this is the knife I done it with," and he pulled this knife (pro
<lb/>duced) from his right-hand pocket. I pulled the door to me, leaving prisoner outside, and ran back to the pit. On my way I saw Mills, the new fireman. I said something to him and then went to find a policeman. I saw Sergeant Curtis in Coldharbour Lane and while speaking to him I saw prisoner, and in his hearing I said to Curtis, "I think you had better come inside and bring him with you as he has stabbed my mate." I told him to be careful as prisoner had the knife on him. Curtis took prisoner whilst I went to fetch the doctor. A little before the previous Christmas some performers left two knives behind them, one of which was the one prisoner showed me. I took possession of them. Shortly after, prisoner asked me if he might borrow one as he wanted to cut some leather as he was repairing some boots. He took it on the following evening. I missed it and asked him if he had got it, and he said he had and that it had answered the purpose very nicely. He has had it all the time.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I have never seen prisoner revengeful or savage. I got on very well with him. On the Friday evening he went away and I undertook to look after his work for him. Deceased and pri
<lb/>soner never got on well together. I never thought anything of his. remark, "Never mind; I will wait for him another evening." I thought it was nothing but a tiff and as soon as they had had a little "rough and tumble" it would be all over. Deceased on this night went from the stage door round the. back of the pit to the box-office, where he met Mills. I heard Mills say at the police-court that it was within two minutes after that that he found deceased lying on the ground. I did not notice the time, but it was about two minutes I should think after deceased had left me that I found him. It must have been very shortly after 11.30 when I found him. When I left deceased to fetch water I saw prisoner coming towards the stage door from the street; this was about one minute and a half after I had seen deceased. I did not lock the stage door; he could have come in. I notice that my depositions say, "I locked the door," but I did not do so. I went to the door of the "Joiners' Arms" when I went to fetch a policeman, and I called to a man named George Baselgia, "Come up, George. The fireman has stabbed Liverpool Jack." We then went over to the hall. This was about 11.50, a considerable time after the first start. Prisoner was at the main entrance at this time. I did not notice a knife in his hand. After having called the doctor I went back and saw deceased propped up against the radiator at the side of the pit and prisoner was sitting within six feet of him on one of the end seats. I did not stop to see what he was doing; I went to fetch Ford. The knife is an ordinary shoemaker's knife, which is always kept very sharp for cutting leather. His cap and his coat with the epaulets are still there.</p>
<p>Re-examined. We generally time the performance to be over at 11.30 and it takes the people three or four minutes to get out. I did not notice what time the artistes and the public had got out on this night, as when the pictures are on I very often run to the dressing-room, as I did this night, and turn out all the lights that can be</p>
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<p>dispensed with. I took no account of times that evening. I hurried all the way to the pit when I heard the cry. I ran off for the water directly after I had spoken to deceased, as I thought he had fainted. He was lying somewhat under the circle, which is above the pit. It was dimly lighted, but not more so than any other part of the theatre; there were two or three lights from the ceiling. It was not deceased's duty to go round the pit; he went round that way to help the new fireman to close the exits, as he did not know his way round. The deceased was alone when he left me and, as far as I know, he went to find the new fireman. I rather doubt whether it was as long as twenty minutes between the time I first saw deceased and the time when the policeman took prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-183" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WARE</persName> </hi>, fireman (ex-fireman of the Metropolitan Fire Brigade). I was employed at the Camberwell Empire and prisoner succeeded me. About 11.55 p.m. on March 28 I was passing the stage door when I saw prisoner standing on the kerb. I said, "Hullo Tom! Have you anything in view yet?" He answered me at once, "No; I shall do no more work. I have just given Jack six inches of steel." I then passed on. I knew he had been discharged on the Saturday previously and my question was directed to know whether he had heard of any
<lb/>thing fresh. I noticed nothing in his hand. I know the time because I looked at the clock further up the road in Coldharbour Lane as I passed it afterwards and that was a minute or two to 12; I allowed myself three minutes to get that distance.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I did not see much difference in him. I did not notice whether the stage door was shut or open at the time.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-184" type="given" value="EDWARD JOHN"/>EDWARD JOHN MILLS</persName> </hi>, fireman, Camberwell Empire Music Hall. I began my duties on Sunday night, March 27. On March 28 the per
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<p>should say seven to 10 minutes elapsed from the time I saw deceased first to the time when Curtis brought prisoner in. I was two minutes at the most trying to lock the pay-box door before I followed deceased.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. There is a private door leading from the vestibule into a passage and then there are two folding doors leading into the pit. I was informed that Gray saw the deceased first; he had not any water when I met him. I told him to fetch the doctor. Prisoner sat on the second seat from the back, 3 ft. from the deceased. Curtis ought to have heard him say, "Yes, I know he is. I meant it." If he says he did not, that does not make me think I am mistaken; the words made a great impression on my mind. I might have taken the key from deceased's hand but I did not put it in my pocket. I see that my depositions say, "I took the key." The key was found afterwards by someone else. Baselgia was not' there at the time prisoner said, "I know he is. I meant it"; I had sent him to fetch an ambulance.</p>
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<lb/>bour Lane on the night of March 28 when, at about 12 p.m., Gray spoke to me and pointed prisoner out to me. He was standing outside the music-hall on the footway, near the main entrance; Baselgia was standing near him. I said to prisoner, "I believe you have stabbed a man in the music-hall. Come with me." He made no reply. He had a knife in his hand and on my asking for it he gave it to me. I looked at the blade and prisoner said-, "There is nothing on it." I could not see anything on it. I took hold of his arm, and he walked into the pit with me As we passed through from the main entrance he said, "I stabbed him." I believe Gray followed in. I noticed Baselgia close to prisoner in the pit. Deceased was on the further side of the pit from the main entrance and Mills was kneeling by his side. Deceased appeared to be dead and prisoner said, "You've got what you asked for" and then he turned to me and said, "He got me the sack last week." There was no interval between the two sen
<lb/>tences. I told him that what he said would be taken down and might be used in evidence against him and he said, "I know you will go against me." I kept him there 25 minutes waiting for the doctor. When Sergeant Elliot came he said to me, "Have you got the wit; nesses?" Prisoner, who was standing by me, said, "There is no witnesses." The doctor said the man was dead and I took prisoner to the station. I have said all I heard prisoner say. I put it down in my pocket-book at the time. During the time we were there he sat down on a corner seat part of the time and then stood up. He was perfectly cool and collected; he did not seem to take very much notice of what was going on. On searching him at the station I, amongst other things, found two handkerchiefs, one of which (produced) had some blood stains on it. I was looking at it when prisoner said, "That's not off the knife, I cut my finger this afternoon when I was shaving." There were two slight cuts on his finger.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I did not caution him directly he began making statements; if I had not had my uniform on I should have. He did not seem to be affected by the sight of the dead man. I did not hear</p>
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<p>Baselgia say, "It's no good holding him; he is dead." I heard Mills say, "He is dead right enough." I did not observe prisoner say any
<lb/>thing to that. I had prisoner in custody and I was less than two yards from him. I did not observe that prisoner said, "Yes, I know he is. I meant it." I turned on two occasions to Gray about the doctor and he may have said it whilst I had my head turned.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. I suppose there was a certain amount of bad luck in his hitting between the two ribs, but there is a fairly wide space between them. The knife did not touch the sternum. It would be difficult to give a blow with this knife without inflicting injuries. I cannot say I have made a study of questions of insanity. I think that epilepsy running through two or three different generations is liable to lead to mental deterioration.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-186" type="given" value="CHARLES PINEL"/>CHARLES PINEL GALLIE</persName> </hi>, divisional surgeon of police, Camberwell. I went to the station at 1.30 a.m. on March 29 and saw prisoner. He was sober and had a scratch on the right-hand side of the lower jaw. He had incised wounds on his finger, I should think four or five hours old. I found on this knife opposite to the maker's name a stain which appears to be blood and there is also another slight stain on the wooden handle. It struck me that the point had been recently sharpened. I assisted at the post-mortem examination.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I should say that a man using a knife with a fair amount of violence might equally, unless he were a surgeon, hit the bone as hit the intercostal space. I examined prisoner between 1.15 and 1.30. There was nothing in his appearance suggesting insanity. I did not examine him for anything of that kind; my examination was as to whether he was sober and for marks of violence. He was quiet and not excited. I should not say he was definitely morose and sullen; he was simply sitting there quietly as though he had not participated in a crime. I am not prepared to say whether he realised his position or not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBERT HAWKINS</hi>, P Division. About 4 a.m. on March 29 I saw prisoner at the Camberwell Police Station. He gave his name as Thomas William Jesshope. I said to him, "John Healey, employed at the Empire Music Hall, is dead, and I shall charge you with wilfully murdering him by stabbing him in the breast</p>
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<p>with this knife between 11.30 p.m. and midnight." He said, "Yes, I understand."</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the magistrate, "Nothing. I call no witnesses."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-187" type="given" value="THOMAS WILLIAM"/>THOMAS WILLIAM JESSHOPE</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I am 32 years old and have a wife and two little children, aged 4 1/2 and 3 1/2. From 1892 to 1893 I was on a training ship and then I served as an apprentice to a company of shipowners for four years. I served the sea till 1902, when I was discharged with conduct "Very good." On May 26, 1902, I joined the London Fire Brigade and was there till 1907. My discharge shows "Character very good" and "Ability very good." I have never been in trouble with the police before of any land. I remember about 10 years ago coming to my senses in the padded room of the Marylebone Infirmary. I do not know how I got there. My mother fetched me away; I do not recollect whether there was anybody with her. About a year after that I was bad, but I do not know what the matter was with me. In 1893, before I was taken to the Infirmary, I had a severe illness at sea—pleurisy and a touch of yellow fever. In 1906 I had an accident, when the Fire Brigade steamer ran over my foot, and I was ill seven weeks. In January, 1907, I was ill at the Dulwich Fire Station for three weeks. Dr. Gardner, who I believe is alive now, attended me. I do not know what was the matter with me; I was unconscious all the time. They then took me to St. Thomas's Hospital, where I was ill about five months. I had three operations for abscess following poisoned blood. I went to two convalescent homes after that. My leave for that year was 279 days. My illness extended over nine months. My parents were sent for several times to come to the hospital as they thought I was dying. They told me I had had a very severe illness and was lucky to get over it. I have never been the same man since. I went back to the Fire Brigade, but I could not do the work and I was invalided out. Since my illness I have found that drink affects me much more easily. I have never drank to excess. I was discharged from the Camberwell Empire four months before this happened. I lost one of my children about 18 months ago on the morning of the day I was discharged and finally my wife had a miscarriage. On Saturday evening, March 26, I was ordered off the stage by deceased, and I could not make it out; I asked him what he meant. The same evening I was discharged by Ford. I stopped there to get my uniform, but I did not get it. I remember having a struggle with the deceased inside the hall, but I don't remember falling on the pavement. I went there on Sunday morning, and I asked the doorkeeper if Jack was there; that is all that happened so far as I remember. I do not remember anything on the Monday. I do not remember leaving home, nor taking the knife with me. I never used to carry it with me. I do not remember anything at all until I was taken to the police station and the doctor took some things off me.</p>
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<p>Since my illness I have been troubled in my mind and I have slept very badly. I had been drinking on the Friday and Saturday before this and I had not taken my proper food. The whole of my resources were 2s. or 3s. saved up and my week's wages.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I was quite competent to do a sailor's work and was ranked "A. B." I was perfectly well able to do the work at the Fire Brigade subject to being ill. When I was fined 5s. for being drunk it was when I was getting over my illness. I had had two or three glasses before I was taken to the Marylebone Infirmary; I had not been drinking much at all before that. This happened in between two voyages. I had a considerable amount of money on me at the time. The following is a record of leaves for my illnesses: 1902, 10 days, from bronchitis; 1903, 15 days from a strain; 1906, 12 days from a chill and 45 days from an abscess in the leg; and 1907, 279 days tonsilitis. I was perfectly well able to do my duties as fireman at the Camberwell. I had had some drink on March 25, but I do not remember Nutt speaking to me. Deceased and I got on all right together most of the time, except for one or two tiffs about the work. I got on with the others better than I did with him. I do not say I disliked him, but I did not like him. He drank, too. I cannot say why I did not like him. I remember Ford pushing me away on the Saturday night; I was waiting to take my uniform away. I do not remember seeing deceased, nor trying to pull his arm through the half-open door. I do not remember saying to Ford after that, "I will wait for Jack and get my own back." I went to the theatre on Sunday morning to give deceased a hiding; I was going to try and give him a good hiding. I knew he was there on Sundays. All that Gray has said as to what I said to him is true. I said, "I shall wait and see Jack some other time," because I meant to try and give him a good hiding because of the ill-feeling I had from him on the Saturday night when he told me to clear out. My dismissal originated in his ordering me off the stage. I attributed it to something deceased had said to Ford. I had had something to drink, but he had no business to order me off; he was not my superior and had no right to do so. My duty was on the stage as well as his. I do not know why I did not give him a hiding on the Sunday morning. I was at home till mid
<lb/>day on Monday, but I do not remember anything after that. I had shaved sometime that day, but I could not tell you whether it was the afternoon or not. I remember cutting my fingers. I must have put the blood-stained handkerchief in my pocket, but I do not remem
<lb/>ber it. I do not remember saying that the blood on the handkerchief was not off the knife, but that I had cut myself whilst shaving. (The evidence of the different witnesses as to his actions at the time of the offence were put categorically to the prisoner, who denied all know
<lb/>ledge of them.) I did not realise what I was in custody for at the station; I knew it in the morning when I was told. I have never said before that I did not remember all this. I have been bad two or three times, but I have not seen a doctor since 1907.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I remember Mr. Hitchcock, the solicitor, coming to me a day or two after I was committed for trial and I then gave him</p>
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<p>the statement I have made to-day. I do not know that the doctors certified on my being taken to the Infirmary that I was suffering from convulsions.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-188" type="given" value="REGINALD GEORGE"/>REGINALD GEORGE SIMMONDS</persName> </hi>, Master, Marylebone Workhouse. The workhouse does not include the infirmary. I do not know prisoner. This is an order of admission from the Middlesex Hospital, dated March 10, 1900. (Mr. Bodkin objected to the admission of the document on the ground that it had not yet been strictly proved.) I was not master in 1900 and I have no recollection of prisoner. In using the word "In
<lb/>firmary" a mistake has been made; it should have been, workhouse. The Alexandra Ward has two padded rooms set apart for people re
<lb/>quiring observation. (Mr. Temple Martin here proposed to ask the witness what the document purported to show. Mr. Bodkin objected on the same grounds as above. Mr. Justice A. T. Lawrence held that before the document could be proved a witness who was there at the time when the entry was made and could identify the prisoner must be called.)</p>
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<lb/>pital. I produce the record of case in 1907 of a person named Thomas Jesshope. I do not recognise prisoner. (Mr. Bodkin objected for the same reasons to the admission of the record. Objection up
<lb/>held.) There were a number of doctors who attended this man. Dr. Clutton would probably have seen him. The house surgeon at that time was. Dr. F. S. Hewett; he made the first entry here, apparently. There were four house surgeons who attended him altogether. You might get Dr. Hewett down here at short notice.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-190" type="given" value="LILLLE"/>LILLLE JESSHOPE</persName> </hi>. Prisoner and I have been married five years last October. About three years ago he had a severe illness, at the Lord
<lb/>ship Lane Fire Station, from bronchitis, congestion of the lungs, pleu
<lb/>risy, pneumonia, and an abscess. His mother and myself nursed him three weeks there. He got so violent that we could not manage him, and we got Joseph Fawcett to assist us. He was then taken to St. Thomas's Hospital, where he remained seven or eight months. I was sent for twice because he was not expected to live. He went after that to two convalescent homes and eventually went back to the Fire Brigade, but he was invalided out within a very short time. He did some work on three afternoons at Terry's Theatre, and then he got this job at the Camberwell. Since his illness he has been more easily affected by drink; he does not seem to know really what he has been doing. I have seen his mother in a fit once; she was very violent. I do not know what you call them. She had not been drinking at the time; she does not drink. About 10.30 p.m., on the Friday night, before this happened, I went to the music-hall and found him drunk. I took him home and Gray locked up his doors for him. About 7.30 on the Saturday evening I was confined and had a miscarriage through lifting a machine. That upset my husband awfully. That same even
<lb/>ing he came back from the theatre discharged. I was laid up. He is a very good husband and a good father.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. My husband had married quarters at the fire station. He got delirious and had difficulty in breathing.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-191" type="given" value="ERNEST"/>ERNEST JESSHOPE</persName> </hi>. Prisoner's father is my brother. I have a son aged 23 who was taken to a lunatic asylum the beginning of last September. He has not suffered from fits. He was sent to Pen
<lb/>tonville for six weeks' hard labour and when he came away from there he was quite insane and since then he has been in the asylum.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. He was for six years as a despatch clerk in Peter Robinson's, Limited. To my knowledge he is the only relative of mine who has ever been in an asylum. I think my son's insanity must have commenced before he went into prison, because of what he was charged with—petty theft. I do not believe he did it wilfully. He did the same thing when he came out of prison and then he was sent to the asylum. The next brother to me (the prisoner's father is my eldest brother) suffered from St. Vitus's dance until he was 17, but he is a strong, healthy man now.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-192" type="given" value="THOMAS WILLIAM"/>THOMAS WILLIAM JESSHOPE</persName> </hi> (senior). I am prisoner's father. I was formerly a coachman, but I am 66 years old and am not now working. My wife has had fits for 20 or 30 years. At first she used to have the doctor, but. I recover her myself now; they used to come so often I knew what they were and I could cure her better myself than doctors. They only last a short time and sometimes half an hour. Dr. Halliday was the doctor who came to my son when he was born, and one of the doctors who attended her for her fits; he is dead now. I do not know whether she is dead or alive until I shake her. I have felt her pulse and could not find any. I keep worrying her until I get her to life again. I went by myself to the Marylebone Infirmary to see my son. It is so far back that I cannot remember it very well. They said he was placed in the padded room. I cannot tell you what he was suffering from, whether a fainting fit had come over him or something of that kind. I believe he came out next day, but I could not say; we left him there.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. He came home afterwards and then, as far as my memory can say, he went about his business again. This happened when he came home from sea; I never had any trouble with him before. I have never seen him in drink and never knew him to be so. Whenever he came to see me he was always too respectable. I was married in 1871, and years and years afterwards my wife started these fits. I could not say whether my son was born before she started; he was born in 1878. I have seen very little of my son during the last two years. I saw him in a room in the infir
<lb/>mary; I cannot describe it exactly. They told me it was a padded room.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-193" type="given" value="ELLEN MARIA"/>ELLEN MARIA JESSHOPE</persName> </hi>, prisoner's mother, wife of the last witness. Prisoner is 32 years old, and early in life he went to sea. I attended him during his three weeks' illness at the fire station and on several occasions I had to get help because he used to have shivers and then dreadful heats in which he lost his reason, and I and his wife could not hold him. He was taken to St. Thomas's Hospital and for the first five months I used to go there two or three times a week. I have</p>
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<p>been sent for, I should think, half a dozen times, as they thought he was dying. I did not see him for over 12 months after his illness. I have suffered from fits. It is about four years ago since I had the last fit and it is about 16 or 18 years since I had the doctor last. I have no warning when these fits are coming off; I simply go off. After the fit, is over recollections gradually come to me. They leave me very weak and low. My mother suffered for 40 years with fits. I had a sister who suffered from trance fits; her illness was slow decline. I had another sister who died when a child in convulsions. Ten years ago I went to the Marylebone Infirmary and saw my son in the padded room. He was fairly calm. I believe I took him away.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. They told me it was a padded room; that he had been noisy at the hospital and that was why he had been sent there. I do not remember that he was drinking about that time. I took him home. I cannot remember whether he went on another voyage or not; he was home for about eight weeks. The sister who had trance fits died when she was 33. It is not unusual for a child to die from convulsions. My mother died when she was 70. Sometimes she was quiet in her fits, and sometimes she had a great struggle with them. I have only had the doctor twice for my fits.</p>
<p>Re-examined. I was not told what my son had been suffering from at the infirmary.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-194" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BASELGIA</persName> </hi>, hairdresser, 3, Liverpool Parade, Coldharbour Lane. About 11.50 p.m. on March 28 I was in the "Joiners' Arms" when Gray called me out. I went across the road with him and saw prisoner outside the main entrance of the Camberwell Empire. I did not speak to him. He did not look the right way to me; he never said a word. His eyes were fixed. I do not think he noticed me. I went into the pit with Gray, where I saw the deceased being held by Mills. Gray went to fetch the doctor and I went for the ambulance. As I went outside I saw prisoner standing in the same place. I saw Curtis and said to him, "The man done a murder. He has stabbed somebody inside—Liverpool Jack—in the pit." I went back to the pit followed by prisoner and then Curtis. I said, referring to the deceased, "He is dead." I did not hear prisoner say anything to that; he was sitting in a corner seat about 6 ft. away, Curtis being next to him. I went to fetch the ambulance and when I came back prisoner was in the same place; I had been away about 15 minutes. He kept his head down and he had his hat in his hand. He did not look as if he knew what he had been doing, but I cannot answer that really. I have known him since he has been fireman at the Empire. I have often seen him drunk and when he was like that the best thing to do was to get away from him; he was like a beast and Wanted to fight everybody. When he was sober he was a very nice man to speak to. I cannot say that I have ever seen him before the same as he was on that Monday night. He was sober.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I did not speak to him that night because I was afraid of him.</p>
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<p>I have had 19 years of infirmary and workhouse work and have 2,300 beds to attend to with five assistants under me. I have held the position for 12 years and perform about 500 operations a year. I have had a number of mental cases. It is undisputed that epilepsy is hereditary. I think from the description the fits that the prisoner's mother and grandmother have had are epileptic; I am not sure about the prisoner's. The trance-like condition of the sister is also a form of epilepsy; it is a state which succeeds violent struggling. As regards the mother's fits, the fact that they came on suddenly shows they were epileptic.</p>
<p>(To the Judge.) They can come on with or without warning. The duration of the fits is another factor. I think she said that the fits went on for 18 years.</p>
<p>(To Mr. Temple Martin.) Epileptic fits can be as well treated by a person who is accustomed to them as a doctor; I should think the husband was the most suitable person to attend to her. It is a well
<lb/>recognised medical theory that where there is a history of epilepsy running through two or three generations there is a tendency to in
<lb/>sanity, which may be increased by a long exhausting illness and drink, the latter being a quickly increasing cause, as after a long ill
<lb/>ness the subject is affected very much more easily by it. These causes would operate for the rest of his life. The septic illness from which prisoner suffered would affect his brain for the rest of his life. It would be a bad form of the hereditary nervous instability. In a case of this kind where you have constant drinking the man would be liable at any moment to have a fit of homicidal or suicidal mania and it is probable that he would have an attack of impulsive insanity. One of the characteristics at the time or a test afterwards of impulsive insanity is whether a person remembers what they have done. In such cases the subject seems to be quite sane to those around him and it is possible he may make statements corresponding to the actions he has been doing without knowing afterwards he had made them. If recalled by a question suddenly he might be able to answer that question with apparent sanity and relevance to the occasion, but on the other hand he may be perfectly unaware he had answered it. In prisoner's case I think that his mental condition is not a normal one through inherited causes, through a long and exhausting illness, and through drink. I think at the time of his attacking the deceased the effects of drink had not passed off and that they rendered him liable to be dominated by a desire for revenge and that, acting under that impulse, he committed this deed. The statements he made and the fact that he was waiting about outside with the knife in his hand are consistent with what I have stated. The fact that he says that he does not remember these things is quite consistent also.</p>
<p>Cross-exmined. I have given evidence on questions of sanity in relation to attempted murder charges, but this is the first time I have given evidence as an expert in a case of this kind. I think my assumption that the fits described are epileptic is important. I think it is possible to form a very good judgment as to the nature of the</p>
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<p>fits from descriptions given by the patients or their relatives. Cata
<lb/>leptic and epileptic fits are both on the same footing. I think it likely that epileptic children may be produced from parents subject to cata
<lb/>leptic fits. I have not known of such a case, but from the nature of the disease it is possible. An epileptic recovering from a fit may do injury to himself and to others and they are certifiable for that reason; it is the state coming after the fit called the "automatic stage." I do not think that is either an old or new theory. I have not said prisoner was an epileptic; he is the result of having epilepsy in his family; he suffers from inherited degeneration of his brain cells and the illness coming on top of that and his habits render him liable to be weak and therefore to lose his self-control. He will not be able to resist evil temptations and promptings, may be dominated by feelings of revenge, uncontrolled anger, and to use violent weapons against those whom he hates, and to prepare and deliberate knowingly for a deed against them, and yet he might not be quite sane in so doing.</p>
<p>Re-examined. A person with a diseased brain would be liable to be overcome by an impulse on the instant without any previous pre
<lb/>meditation. The fact that prisoner has relatives on one side having a tendency to insanity and on the other side absolute insanity would be a possible factor.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100426-name-196" type="given" value="CHARLES PINEL"/>CHARLES PINEL GALLIE</persName> </hi>, recalled. Further cross-examined. I have to deal with lunatics, but I have not made a special study of the sub
<lb/>ject. I think there is no question that epilepsy is hereditary. I think in any case where there is a previous history of epilepsy it is possible the children may inherit mental weakness or epilepsy. The alcoholic epileptic is probably worse than the non-alcoholic epileptic. The fact that prisoner made coherent statements would be very much more consistent with his having had an irresistible impulse if there were direct evidence that he had had a fit or fits at any previous time and the prisoner was in a post-epileptic condition; I would then be much more ready to admit all these possibilities. The' fact that he had fits 10 years before may affect his general mental calibre. His walking round the theatre with the knife in his hand does not strike me as consistent with the action of an ordinary criminal; his impulse would be to get away. His remembering certain things and not others is consistent with what is laid down as to emotional insanity.</p>
<p>Further re-examined. That is the condition where the individual who is of unbalanced mind has sudden impulses and gives way to them, and yet may not be insane at other times. I should be very sorry to say that sane people do not give way to such impulses. You believe somebody has done you wrong, you harbour the feeling, and you intend to do an injury to him, and when an opportunity occurs you do it; that is this case. There is no emotional insanity in that.</p>
<p>To the Judge. I think the fact in the mother's case of the fits per
<lb/>sisting and occurring, as far as I could gather, with a certain fre
<lb/>quency, is more suggestive of epilepsy than of hysteria. There are not many kinds of fits occurring in that way with fair frequency in an apparently otherwise healthy person. I certainly think from her description that her mother's fits were epileptic; but I can only assume.</p>
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