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<p>1910, APRIL (1).</p>
<p>Vol. CLII.] Part 906.</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>KNILL, MAYOR.</p>
<p>Shorthand Writer to the Court.</p>
<p>EDITED BY</p>
<p>[Published by Annual Subscription.]</p>
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<p>On the King's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Tuesday, April 5th, 1910, and following days.</p>
<p>Before the Right Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-6" type="given" value="VEZEY"/>VEZEY STRONG</persName> </hi>, Knight; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">T. VANSITTART BOWATER</hi>, Knight; and
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<hi rend="smallCaps">RALPH SLAZENGER</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">J. D. LANGTON</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">KNILL, MAYOR. SIXTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE</hi>
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<p>(Tuesday, April 5.)</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES T. W. HIRSCH</hi> said that when he was called in by the police the child had been dead about 20 minutes. He found a slight bruising on the forehead and on the neck, consistent with the pressure of fingers; there was evidence that the child was alive when put into the water and had struggled. The cause of death was asphyxia.</p>
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<p>Prisoner had hitherto borne a good character. He had been a soldier and had served in the South African war; he was retired invalided, and was in receipt of a pension, best part of which he has been giving to support his mother. Mr. Cohen asked his Lordship to pass such a sentence as would not involve the loss of pension. In the case of R. v. Bright (4 Cr. Ap. R., p. 194) the Court had distinctly approved of such a differentiation.</p>
<p>Mr. Justice Pickford sentenced prisoner, who has been in prison for two months, to
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<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS HOLLIS</hi>. In the early morning of February 23 I heard of a motor-cab accident in the Brixton Road; I arrived on the scene within 20 minutes of the accident and proceeded to take measure
<lb/>ments from which I prepared the plan produced. A number of men had been engaged cleaning out the conduit boxes, etc., in the middle of the tram lines. The plan shows the position at which Kent and Foster were working and the place at which Kent's body was found.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The road was dirty with thin mud; there were no signs of wheel marks in the mud. The wheels of the motor-cab were probably exactly in the tram lines, the gauge being the same.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. The red lights would be shifted by the men accord
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-41" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SAYER</persName> </hi>, coachman, East Dulwich. I was walking towards Brixton on this morning. I saw the cab about 30 yards before it reached the men; it was going about 12 miles an hour; it went on about 20 yards after striking Foster and then stopped and we found Kent's body under the cab. Prisoner was quite sober.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY SIMERVILLE</hi>, 14 W., who took prisoner into custody immediately after the accident, stated that on the way to the station the prisoner said, "I saw the red light; I went to avoid it; I knocked a man down; I stopped my car and went back to see if he was hurt, when another man pulled the dead man from the front of the car."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM BLAKE</hi>, 76 W, examined the cab just after the accident. There was blood on the offside steering arm, which was bent; the near-side tyre of the front wheel had been punctured. The road surface was wet, but not greasy.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ARTHUR C. ROBINSON</hi>, 144, Brixton Road. On being called to the scene of the accident I found deceased lying in the roadway in front of the cab. The post mortem examination showed that he had a compound fracture at the base of the skull. This would be suffi
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<p>To the Jury. I had no time to sound the horn, my attention was on the steering gear and the brakes.</p>
<p>The Jury, after long deliberation, handed in the following: "We find prisoner
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<p>Mr. Tully-Christie prosecuted; Mr. Bodkin defended.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. Prisoner and his wife lived together very happily. He was very fond of his children. Recently he has been very melancholy and despondent; he has been ill with dyspepsia. He is a teetotaller. His father's brother committed suicide 12 years ago; his father's first cousin was in a lunatic asylum for 30 years, and the mother of that cousin died in an asylum. When he was a lad prisoner had a fall and was for five months in hospital with con
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-47" type="given" value="D'ANTILI"/>D'ANTILI GILDER</persName> </hi>, house surgeon at University College Hospital, On March 6 I examined the child; it had a fractured skull and was suffering from concussion of the brain; there were five marks of external violence. There was a fair prospect of the child recover
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<p>Cross-examined. The blows with the hammer could not have been given with any force.</p>
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<p>have been and ruined myself. Oh, my baby." Later he said, "Is my baby dead; I do not know what made me do it."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">RHOMAS HENRY HOSFORD</hi>, 25, Camden Road. I have known prisoner for about eight years. On January 18 last he called upon me for professional advice; he was suffering from dyspepsia. He had the delusion that he was suffering from venereal disease. I assured him that there was no foundation for this. I saw him several times subsequently, and he persisted in his belief in spite of my assurances. He told me he was distressed about the poor condition of the baby, and thought it was due to his own diseased state. He complained of pains in his head and the pit of his stomach.</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted on July 22, 1908, at Marylebone Police Court, when he was sentenced to nine months' hard labour for stealing money and stamps to the value of £121, after a previous conviction on August 18, 1904, at Marylebone of six months' hard labour for stealing £95 as a servant.</p>
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<p>In 1908 prisoner was sentenced at this Court to six months' hard labour for obscene libel.</p>
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<p>Poole confessed to having been convicted at South London Sessions on October 22, 1908, receiving 12 months' hard labour for possessing housebreaking implements, after two previous convictions, December 13, 1905, South London Sessions, nine months for shop breaking; April 9, 1908, Mansion House, three months for frequenting.</p>
<p>Sentence, Poole,
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<p>Mr. J. P. Grain prosecuted (Mr. Roome prosecuted on the indict
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<p>Mr. Grain stated that he did not propose to proceed with this indictment.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM GEORGE</hi>, F Division, said that nothing was known about prisoner, who refused to give any information. Eight cases con
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<p>Cross-examined. The pawnbroker gave me the information that he had been dealing with this stolen property; he told me the prisoner had pawned them. There was nothing said about it at the trial because it was not a case at issue. I did not know the address of the employer you mentioned at his trial and I have made no inquiries. I heard you give the names and addresses of two firms where he had worked, but I did not take them down; it was not for me. I asked him about it in prison and he said, "That has all been dealt with."</p>
<p>Prisoner wished the Judge, in order that he might have a clean sheet in the future, to take into account in sentencing him the fact that there were other charges against him.</p>
<p>Sentence, 18 months' hard labour.</p>
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<p>Mr. Pickersgill, M. P., for the prosecution, stated that he would not proceed against Howes on this indictment.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ARTHUR NEAL</hi>, T Division, proved seven previous convictions against Adams, beginning in 1900; he was an associate of thieves and was believed to have been manufacturing counterfeit coins for some time past, although this was his first conviction for such. When arrested he described himself as "the King of the Coiners."</p>
<p>Adams (to the Judge). All I can say is that I am guilty of it, but I have only been at it for about five weeks. The way I learnt to make them was out of a newspaper. This woman (Howes) has not been living with me long and I plead for her. There is nothing against her.</p>
<p>Sentences, Adams,
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<p>Mr. Pickersgill, M. P., prosecuted.</p>
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<p>Lad reasons for believing that there was counterfeit coin there. He said, "I have not got anything, guv'nor." I searched him and in his jacket pocket I found this plaster mould (produced) impressed with the obverse and reverse sides of half a crown dated 1889, and these un
<lb/>finished counterfeit half-crowns (produced), dated also 1889. I found in the room a jug containing traces of plaster of Paris, a packet of borax, a packet of lampblack, two spoons, one metal fork, two pieces of glass, and a quantity of broken moulds, all of which I now produce. Prisoner was taken to the Old Street Police Station, where he was charged with possessing the mould and he made no reply. When I had found the articles he said, "You have got it all. You can see I am only a novice."</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Prisoner. The mould is well made. The coins are very badly made, but at present they are in an unfinished state and I do not know what they will be like when they are finished. They are very brittle; I dropped one and it broke. What I found is certainly not rubbish; they are all articles used by coiners in connection with coining and the coins are the roughest I have seen.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-62" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH WALLACE</persName> </hi>, 11, Essex Street, Kingsland Road. Prisoner and his wife have been living with me for four years last February. They occupied the top back room.</p>
<p>To Prisoner. I do not believe you have had any money lately; you were very hard up.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-63" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>, Inspector of Coins, His Majesty's Mint. The mould produced is rather an unusual one with the ridge and it has been very much used. These coins are very roughly made. They are too brittle; they contain too much antimony. I should say they came from the mould, but as they are so bad and the mould has been so much used it is rather difficult to tell; they are of the same date. The other articles I found in the room are such as coiners are accus
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<p>To Prisoner. You can tell they are half-crowns, but in their un
<lb/>finished state I should not think you could pass them. I have seen worse, but not many. Some people will take anything. They are not worth finishing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALFRED MAY</hi>, 6th Battalion Rifle Brigade. I have known prisoner since 1904. He has been in the Militia and latterly in the Special Reserve, and during that time he has borne an excellent character. He was discharged from the Special Reserve on March 19 of this year, having completed his 10 years. I have no knowledge of what he has done since. He bore the rank of sergeant when he was discharged.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-64" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED MARTIN</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). It was simply a very clumsy experiment of a foolish man and I had no intention whatever of passing them.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-65" type="given" value="JOHN"/>John Davidson</persName>, who was sentenced at this Court two sessions ago to four years' penal servitude for making counterfeit coin (see p. 446). Prisoner was strongly suspected then of being the utterer of the coins Davidson made. He has not yet succeeded in making any good coins. He has been described as a very lazy man and it is stated that he is kept by the woman he lives with.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALFRED MARTIN</hi> (prisoner, on oath). I have never seen Davidson to my knowledge in my life. I have been at work at different theatres, but I have never had any regular job. I have lived by this means. It is impossible for me to have uttered counterfeit coins, as I have been hard up for eight months. My wife has been doing any sort of general work.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I know Redvers Street, Kingsland Road. I have not visited Davidson there. I did not tell the police that I knew how he was caught last time. The detective told me about Davidson; I did not start the subject. I heard the landlady say at the Police Court that as far as she knew I did not do any work and that my wife works every day. It is true.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-68" type="given" value="REGINALD"/>REGINALD CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, assistant at Post Office, 191, Oxford Street, W. At 7.20 p.m. on March 23 a man, whom I do not know, came into the Post Office and I served him with a half-crown postal order. He tendered this florin (produced) and a number of coppers in pay
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<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. You waited, but the porter at our place was behind you until the police came. There was nothing to prevent your running away, although the porter was there.</p>
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<p>was then taken to Great Marl borough Street Police Station. On being charged he made no reply. He gave his name as John Edwards, and said, on being asked, "I have no address."</p>
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<p>Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate: "I reserve my defence."</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. The police sergeant did not say he would charge me with being concerned in uttering two counterfeit coins. I said I had no fixed abode. That is why I did not give any address. I do not see how I can explain how the two florins were from the same mould nor how it was that I repeated exactly the same thing as the other man had done a few minutes before. The 15 pennies found on me included the 13 pennies which I tendered which had been returned to me. I got it in change for small purchases, such as cigarettes and fruit and newspaper. I should say I bought the cigarettes in the morning; I do not know the exact time. I smoked them all. I changed a half-crown at night at a fruit hawker in Oxford Street; I bought a pennyworth of fruit. I went out at 10 that morning to work in Euston Road, to take a note for my employer to a man there. I gave it to this man in the street. I had some money when I left in the morning and I got some more from my guv'nor in the afternoon. I cannot tell you where I met my guv'nor that day, because it will be getting him into trouble. I refuse to do so. During this day I ran about from one place to another for him—bookmaking—and I was alone that day till I saw him at 10 a.m., directly after I started out. I was with him all day working. I got 6s. from him for a day's work. I was going home when I turned into the Post Office in Oxford Street, my day's work being done. I wanted the postal order to send to a man to whom I owed a debt. I got no money from anybody else that day; all the money I had on me was from my guv'nor. I got a florin and threepence change off a fruit hawker.</p>
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<p>A long list of previous convictions was proved against him, dating from 1904, the last being on June 16, 1908, for larceny at the North London Sessions, when he was sentenced to 21 months' hard labour. There was no previous conviction for any coining offence. He was stated to be an habitual thief and never to have been known to do any work.</p>
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<p>Mr. Pickersgill, M. P., prosecuted; Mr. Coombe defended (at the request of the Court).</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY RUTTER</hi>, H Division. About 12.15 midday on March 17 I was with another officer named Stephens in Wentworth Street, Whitechapel, when I saw prisoner with two other men; pri
<lb/>soner turned his head over his shoulder and on seeing us he separated from the other two men and went in the direction of the "Princess Alice" public house, where he entered, the other two men following him. I kept him under observation. I looked into the private bar first, but could not see him. Stephens looked into the other bar. I knew that the urinal was downstairs through the saloon bar and I went down and found the door of the w.c. was bolted on the inside. I knocked and there was no answer. I knocked again and said, "Open the door." The prisoner said, "Who is there?" and I said, "Police." At the top of the crevice of the door there is about an inch of space below the frame and there is a girder across the w.c, which is about 8 ft. high. I saw a hand over the top of the crevice put a small parcel on the ridge of the girder. Prisoner made no reply and after about 50 seconds I said, "If you don't open this door I will burst it in." He opened the door. He had his trousers down. I said, "I suspect you of having some counterfeit coin in your possession." I looked round and on the crevice of the girder I saw a little parcel, which I took down; it contained these 16 half-crowns (produced), each wrapped up in pieces of tissue paper. One half-crown had no tissue paper round it. When I had opened it I said to prisoner, "What about this?" He said, "I don't know." I said, "There is nobody else in here, only you and I, and I saw a hand go up there and put them there." On examining the parcel further I found that seven of the counterfeit half-crowns were dated 1890 and nine dated 1889. I took prisoner to the station; in reply to the charge he said, "I shall not plead guilty. You will have to prove that I put them up there." I afterwards tested each of the coins with aqua fortis and found they were counterfeit. I marked each one "H.R." When prisoner was in the w.c. he said, "I did not put them there." What he said at a later stage has slipped my memory. Now that Bethnal Green is men
<lb/>tioned to me I remember he said that he had been, living in Bethnal Green. I think that was after he was charged.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Prisoner has never been convicted at all. I have made inquiries about him and have found he has been working for his brother-in-law and another man. He has also worked for a Mr. Myers. There is an ordinary urinal on the left of the base
<lb/>ment, where there is a gas jet. A little way down the steps on the right hand side is the w.c. There is no light on the steps leading down, but there is a gas jet at the bottom, which throws a light into the urinal. That gas jet was about half or three-parts on on this occasion, it was turned on sufficiently high to illuminate the inside of the w.c. The aperture at the top of the door through</p>
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<p>which I was looking was over an inch. It is about an inch. I could stand and look through it. I said at the Police Court that the door was about 5 1/2 feet high and that there was a space of an inch or 1 1/2 inches through which I could see. The door was about 5 ft. 9 in. high. I am positively sure I saw the hand put that parcel upon that girder. It was only 2 1/2 ft. from me, or 3 ft. at the very most I should disagree with anybody who said that the door was abso
<lb/>lutely plumb at the top. I lost sight of prisoner for about 60 seconds from the time I first saw him in the street. I agree that if he desired to put away this money he must have waited till the very moment when I came in order to do it. He must have undone his trousers and have prepared to sit down before getting rid of these coins. When I was knocking at the door he had ample oppor
<lb/>tunity to undo his clothes for a certain purpose, but it is not for me to suggest anything, although I could suggest something. As to the suggestion of his being able to put the coins down the pan, the second thing I did was to take off my coat and put my arm right into the pan, but it is constructed in such a way that there would not have been enough force of water to take it up, and if it did not take it up they would not go down. I do not suggest that prisoner tried to do that, they would not have gone down if he had—he had time to try. I do not know if he had a white shirt on. I should certainly not say that this house is frequented by a lot of notorious people; it is frequented by the ordinary class of people that one gets in every part of the East End of London. I know that plenty of "wrong 'uns" go there as well as anywhere else. I can give you the name of one coiner who goes there; he has been convicted at this court. This parcel could not have been put there by anyone but prisoner. It was not on my asking him whether he would plead guilty that he said, "I shall not plead guilty." He might have said in the bar, "I know nothing about it." There was a bit of a hubbub there. I did not intend to let him go without my searching him. I wrote out everything that was said about twenty minutes afterwards at the station. I did not write down that prisoner said, "I know nothing about it." I put down what was necessary for the charge. I am stating the facts. He said, "I shall not plead guilty" at the station. He was not asked whether he would plead guilty. There would be no question as far as his pleading guilty. He is simply asked his name, and the charge is then read over to him. Stephens found nothing upon the other two men. I did not know them, and as far as I know they are all right. One of them may have been an old schoolfellow of prisoner. Prisoner said nothing to me about his going with these men to the White City in Aldgate.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN STREPHENS</hi>, Criminal Investigation Depart
<lb/>ment. About 12.30 midday on March 17 I was with Butter in Went-worth Street, Whitechapel, when I saw prisoner with two other men. I saw them look round as they were passing us and prisoner hurried on in front of the others. I came to the conclusion that there was something wrong and we followed. Prisoner was some yards ahead</p>
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<p>of the others when they got to the "Princess Alice." There was a pas
<lb/>sage which leads up at the side of the private bars into the saloon bar. Prisoner went up there and Rutter followed him. The other two men turned into the private bar and I went in behind them. As I was going in I could see the stairs leading down to the urinal through the saloon bar. Prisoner was practically running down those stairs and Rutter was hurrying on behind him. I searched the other two men and found nothing. I took their names and addresses. I kept them there for about two minutes and then went down the steps to the urinal. Just about the time when I got there the door of the w.c. was being opened from the inside. Rutter went in and said a few words to prisoner. He then put his hand up and took a little parcel from a girder which is immediately in front of the door. He said to the prisoner, "What is this?" and I believe prisoner said, "I don't know." The door of the w.c. was not really open when I got there and there is a little crack of perhaps an inch or 1 1/4 inch, or it might be 1 1/2 inch at the top of the door right along. The door is not quite 6 ft. high. There is a gas jet burning right in front of the door and the girder would be in the centre of the door, right over the top of the roof. The roof of the w.c. is higher than the door. A person standing outside that door would be able to see the hand of a person inside placing anything upon the girder; you can see nearly half a person's body over the top part of the door if you put your eye close to the crack. It would be untrue to say that there is no space between the top of the door and the framework of the door part, because you can put your hand in and hold on to the top of the door. The gas jet was burning; it gave a fair light.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. What I have been saying about the size of the aperture is not an exaggeration of the grossest degree. It is a wooden door, not very thick. From the moment I last saw Rutter following prisoner down there to the moment I went down and saw him standing outside the w.c. door would be three minutes. The saloon bar is at the end of the passage and I could see prisoner. I should say he was going with more of a run than a walk—a very hurried walk. I had suspicions that something was wrong by the way he hurried away. If he was suddenly "taken short" that might account for his wanting to go quickly. If he did not want to keep his friends waiting one would think he might have said something to them about it instead of rushing off. I did not hear him say anything to the other men. He had his trousers down when I went into the w.c.</p>
<p>(Mr. Pickersgill here proposed to call Albert Rigby. Mr. Coombe objected to his evidence as being inadmissible. Held that the evidence was admissible.)</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. It was not before I asked him for it that he returned me the change and the cigarettes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY MOTTLEY</hi>, 10 J. R. About 7 p.m. on March 10 I was called to Rigby's shop when I saw prisoner. Rigby told me that prisoner had entered his shop and tendered a bad shilling, which he handed to me (produced). I took prisoner to the station and subse
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<p>Cross-examined. We never took any steps in that case. As far as I know, the shilling is a bad one; I am not an expert.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-73" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES"/>WILLIAM JAMES WEBSTER</persName> </hi>, Inspector of Coins, His Majesty's Mint. All these 16 half-crowns (produced) are counterfeit. Nine are from one mould and seven from another. This shilling (produced) is a bad one.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I have not seen this shilling before to-day. Glanc
<lb/>ing at it, I profess to say that it is bad. Here is an "H. M." on it.</p>
<p>To the Judge. The half-crowns are fair specimens; they are very good imitations, they are taken from a pattern piece that has been well circulated. They are very good and a good many people might take them. The shilling is a good-looking shilling. The coins are not the work of a novice.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRYMOTTLEY</hi> (recalled). I put the marks "H. M., 10.3.10" on this shilling. I have not the slightest doubt that it is the shilling handed to me by Rigby.</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate. "I reserve my defence."</p>
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<lb/>day and have been in England 18 years. I have never been con
<lb/>victed before. On March 17 I left work at 11 a.m. intending to return at 2, there not being sufficient work to keep me going all the day. I met two old school friends, one named Dave Brown, and proposed to go to the White City, Aldgate, to fill up the time. On the way I wanted to go to the urinal, and went into the "Princess Alice" public-house. When I got inside the w.c. Rutter came and asked me what I was doing and I told him I was doing nothing. The first time he knocked I opened the door. This was about three or four minutes after I had gone into the public-house. I do not think the gas jet was turned up. I think Rutter struck a match and lit the gas. I noticed nothing about there being an aperture at the top of the door, as I was sitting down. When I opened the door Rutter came in and said I am going to search you. I said, "You can search me, but I have done nothing wrong. I don't know what for." He searched me and found twopence on me. Rutter could not find anything down there, and then Stephens came</p>
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<p>down, looked round the place and found the parcel, and said, "What is that?" He had a lighted candle in his hand. He handed the parcel to Butter. I was taken to the saloon bar, where Rutter opened the parcel and found the coins. He said to me, "You will be charged for being in possession of these coins. "On going down to the station he said something about pleading guilty, and I said, "No; I shall not plead guilty, because I know nothing of it." I said nothing about his having to prove that I put them there. I do not know anything about the 16 half-crowns. What Big by said about my giving him a counterfeit shilling is true, but I did not know it was bad. I had changed a florin at a fruit barrow on the same day and I got this shilling among the change.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The two friends I met are not here to-day. When I was in the w.c. I did not say to Butter, "I have just come in here, Mr. Butter, I saw you and Stephens in the street." I said, "I have come down here, Mr. Butter, because I wanted to use the urinal." I did not know him to speak to, but I know his name. I did not know Stephens. I am sure I used the w.c. Three or four minutes elapsed before Butter came down. I did not draw the plug. (To the Judge.) Stephens asked me if I was taken up at Bethnal Green. I said I had been there last week, and they said I had a counterfeit shilling, and I told them I did not know it was bad. I did not say to them, "I only had one on me." I said, "I had one single shilling and I did not know it was counterfeit, and it turned out counterfeit afterwards."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-75" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STONE</persName> </hi>, managing clerk to Mr. Mew, solicitor, Aldgate. In consequence of a communication that was made to me by prisoner's relations I saw him and then went to the "Princess Alice" public-house. I went down the stairs. The urinal is situated on the left, and you turn to the right to go into the w.c. It is very dark and there is a gas jet burning in the urinal. At the time I went it was open and there was a very faint glimmer of gas in the w.c. The door opens inwards, and I bolted myself in and turned the gas up inside the w.c. I saw the girder referred to. There are two ledges, one each side. I particularly noticed whether anybody could see through the top of the door, and I am positive and emphatic that it is impossible; the door is absolutely plumb. There is not the slightest aperture at the top of the door. The door is painted white because it is so dark down there, and is made of match-boarding one inch thick; it is of wood fitting into one another; that is what I call match-boarding.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I put myself also into the position in which Butter says he was, and from that position I emphatically say that the door was plumb; there was only a very, very slight aperture. The police are mistaken as to the aperture; it is untrue. (To the Judge.) I am tall enough to easily see through the aperture. My little finger would not go through the aperture, either inside or out.</p>
<p>On Mr. Coombe's application the Judge directed Sub-Inspector William Wallace (City Police) to inspect the door in question and measure the aperture.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-76" type="given" value="MAURICE"/>MAURICE LAZARUS</persName> </hi>, master tailor, 5, Casson Street, Whitechapel. I work for a shop in Fleet Street and employ six others. Prisoner has been in my employ six months. On the day he was arrested he had been working from eight to 11. During the whole time he has been with me I have found him honest. As far as I know he has a good character generally. If he is discharged I shall re
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-77" type="given" value="MORRIS"/>MORRIS MYERS</persName> </hi>, tailor, 7, Holywell Lane, E. C. Prisoner is no relation of mine. He worked for me 18 months before he went to Lazarus. All the time I have known him I have always found him honest.</p>
<p>(Thursday, April 7.)</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-78" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK BROOKS</persName> </hi>, blouse manufacturer, Old Kent Road. I was here yesterday as a friend of Mr. Stone. I have never seen prisoner before. I went down to the "Princess Alice" yesterday with Stone. He went inside while I remained outside. When the door was shut there was a small aperture at the top of the door, but it was so small that I could not put my little finger in. It could not be described as an inch or an inch and a half. It was impossible to see half a person's body through it. When the gas was out you could see nothing at all; it is all artificial light down there. There was a gas jet inside the w.c. If that gas were partly on you could see something looking from the outside, but you could not distinguish what it was. It might have been a hand or a hat or a stick. I could see the hand if the gas was full up. I am six feet two inches.</p>
<p>To the Judge. When looking through the aperture I was almost touching the door with my nose.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-79" type="given" value="ARTHUR WILLIAM"/>ARTHUR WILLIAM PASK</persName> </hi>, commercial traveller, 58, Kent Road, Queen's Park. Mr. Stone is my friend and I happened to be here yesterday out of curiosity. I do not know prisoner or his relations I went last night to this place and found I could not get my little finger through the. space at the top of the door. Brooks and I remained outside while Stone went in the w.c. When the gas was full on you could certainly see the hand moving above the aperture of the door if your eye happened to be close to the aperture, but you have to get accustomed to the light to see that. If the gas was half on you could see nothing at all, and if it was out it was absolutely pitch dark.</p>
<p>Detective Henry Rutter (recalled). It is not true that Stephens found the parcel. He did not have a candle when he came down. He saw me take the parcel from the girder. The reason I put my hand down the w.c. was I thought there might have been two parcels of coins. The first thing I did was to take the parcel down. Your suggestion that we were down there 15 minutes before I found the parcel is wrong.</p>
<p>Further re-examined. There was no excrement in the pan.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-80" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STEPHENS</persName> </hi> (recalled). Rutter found the parcel within a minute after I had been there. I did not see any candle or use one myself. I should have seen it if one had been used. Rutter seemed to know</p>
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<p>where to get the parcel from because he put his hand up. He put his hand down the w.c. after finding the parcel.</p>
<p>The Judge. I cannot call him, but the prosecution ought to call the officer I sent down yesterday, as it is their duty to give all the informa
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM WALLACE</hi>, City Police. I went yesterday with one of my officers to the basement of the "Princess Alice" and examined the door of the w.c. When the door is closed there is a slight space between the door and the framework of from three-quarter inches on the hingeside, diminishing to three-eighth inch at the front jamb; it does not appear to be hung exactly straight. There is a gas jet in the interior of the w.c. and I lit it. The officer went inside the w.c. and closed the door while I remained outside. I could see the iron girder which ran from the middle of the door straight across the ceiling of the w.c. It has a two-inch flange each side and I could see the officer's hand pass along the whole length of that girder either side. I produce a sketch of the w.c.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. There is a light showing at the back and just by the doorway. There are two doorways leading into this w.c., there is a urinal and then a w.c. Outside there is an incandescent light, so that there is a good light in the cellar, or there was when I went down there at 4.41 p.m. I did not feel any necessity of getting my eyes accustomed to the light. I could see nothing when the gas was turned out. You could not have the gas on very much because it would blow away; there seemed to be too much pressure behind and it had to be turned down about half way. When I was down there it was turned on as full as possible. I did not make any experiment when there was only a glimmer of light. I could not see half the man's body as I looked through, and I could not get my hand through at any part. The inside of the w.c. is of white porcelain bricks and these make it rather lighter.</p>
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<p>The third indictment (against Moore and Versey) was first tried.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. I do not know either of the prisoners.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. I think the value is about £35. I do not know either of the prisoners.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-91" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN JOHNSON</persName> </hi>, farmer, Colchester. I was at a horse sale on January 22. I saw Moore arrive into the market with an old dun cob. There was another man with him; I did not take much notice of the other man. I paid four guineas for the dun cob, which was chip kneed. I sold it for £5 to a man named Fisher.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I gave fair value for the horse.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-92" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BUTCHER</persName> </hi>, 8, High Street, Colchester, clerk to Sexton and Grimwade, auctioneers. I sold the dun cob to last witness. Versey came with it to enter it for sale. He said his name was Smith, Knight's Farm, Great Ormesby. I asked him if he wished to put any warranty on it. He said, No, because if he put a warranty on it he would not have the money till the following Wednesday. For horses with no warranty we pay the same day.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I saw Moore at the market. I did not speak to him.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-93" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE FISHER</persName> </hi>, job master, Ipswich. I bought a dun cob on February 21 from Mr. Johnson for £5 and sent it to Bury auction.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I have not seen prisoners before.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-94" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HILL</persName> </hi>, clerk to Simpson and Sons, auctioneers, Bury St. Edmunds. A dun cob pony was entered by Mr. Fisher, of Ipswich, in our sale on February 9. It was bought by a man named Arnold.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The price was 7 1/2 guineas. I do not know defendants.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-95" type="given" value="JOSHUA"/>JOSHUA MARTIN</persName> </hi>, "Red Lion" public-house, Soham. I bought a dun cob from Mr. Simpson at Bury. I gave 7 1/2 guineas for it. I think it is a fair price. A man named Jerome afterwards picked out the horse as having belonged to Mr. Chapman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY HOLFORD</hi>. I arrested Moore on March 7. I handed him over to Sergeant Hawkins and he was taken to Brixton. I arrested him on another charge.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I know prisoner Moore well. No charge has ever been brought against him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES HAWKINS</hi>. I was at Colchester on March 11 and saw Versey in the police station. I told him I was a police officer and that he would be charged with stealing a dun coloured cob pony. He said, "I am in it and I must get out of it." I had previously told him, "Moore is in custody; he said you stole the horses." Versey said, "I shall see about that." On the way to London he said, "The dun coloured pony you spoke about we drove it down and put it in the auction." On March 22 Moore and</p>
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<p>Versey were charged with this offence. Neither of them made any reply.</p>
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<p>The Witness. I wrote this in prisoner's presence and read it over to him. I said, "Is that correct?" He said "Yes."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-96" type="given" value="WILIAM"/>WILIAM MOORE</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). This document is a receipt for a dun cob I bought on January 20 at the back of the Elephant Depository from a dealer. I gave £3 5s. for it. He is a dealing man I generally see at sales named Smith. I asked the detective to try and find him when I was in the prisoners' waiting room. He said, "We have got you; that is good enough for us." I wrote a letter to my wife asking if she could find the man. They would not grant me bail so that I could find him. When I bought the dun cob I took him to my stable. I said to Versey, "I have bought a cheap cob; what shall we do with it?" He said, "Meet me at Colchester." He lives there. I drove the cob down and put him up for the night at the "Castle" public house. The cob's knees were chipped, looked as if done for months. It was a bit aged. Next morning Versey put it in the sale. I told him I should not warrant the cob because he would not eat, and I did not want him returned. I heard nothing more till March 22, when I was charged with stealing this cob.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Versey is my brother-in-law. I have known him eight or 10 years. I am a greengrocer and work a round with a horse and cart. I buy a pony if I see anything cheap to get myself a few shillings. I attend horse sales at the Elephant, Caledonian Market, and Ward's Depository, Edgware Road. I do not buy ponies every day, only occasionally. We do not make inquiries when buying horses as to where they came from. I have known Smith about two years. I cannot tell you where he lives. I generally see him at Caledonian Market on Friday's. I said to him when I bought the cob, "You had better give me a receipt." He wrote it out on the card; I put it in my pocket and took no more notice. I said to my wife, "I think I will leave this at home. I don't think I want to carry this about again." The police did not ask me the name of the man I bought it from. They call the man I bought it from Long Ted. The police did not ask me to give a description of him. They would not let me have a word to say to them. I did not take notice of the notices in the cell. I forgot about getting the police to find the man.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-97" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY VERSEY</persName> </hi> (prisoner on oath). I sold the cob on behalf of Moore. He told me he thought perhaps it would fetch more down in the country. I was going home to Colchester and we drove it down there together. I put it in the auction in the name of Smith. That was because they all know me as Smith. They call me that as a nick-name and always have done from a boy.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. I was present when Moore bought the horse of Smith. Moore knows Smith better than I do. I do not know where Smith lives. I did not think there was any need to make an effort to bring Smith here; I did not buy the horse. It did not belong to both of us.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-26-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>The prosecution offering no evidence on the other indictments, the Jury were directed to find a verdict of Not guilty.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19100405-27-offence-1 t19100405-name-100"/>George D'Albert</persName> and stealing therein three diamond rings, two scarf pins, and two gold bracelets, his property.</rs> </p>
<p>Mr. Counsell prosecuted; Mr. Turrell defended Ross; Mr. Purcell defended Thompson.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-101" type="given" value="HERBERT JOSEPH"/>HERBERT JOSEPH HAYES</persName> </hi>, 38, Russell Road, Finsbury Park, postman. On the night of February 24 I was in Furlong Road delivering letters. I had a postal packet to deliver at No. 16. I knocked. The door was not opened. I looked through the letter box and saw a man in the passage. There was an incandescent gas light burning in the hall. It was full on. The man did not respond to my knock, but turned and walked towards the stairs, down which was coming another man. The one in the passage held his finger up as a warning. Ross was the man I first saw. I noticed the door had got two abrasions from the use of a jemmy or some sharp instrument. I came down the steps and sent two little girls who were passing for the police. In the meantime I saw a constable on the other side and called his attention. After that I saw both prisoners as they were leaving the premises by the hall door. I did not see either of them come out of the house. As they left the house they left the door open. Ross was arrested, the other doubled back. I went to Caledonian Road Police Station at 8.45 a.m. on March 8 to identify the other prisoner from 11 or 12 men. I pointed him out as the man I saw.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Turrell. I recognised the men through the letter-box by the gaslight. I did not recognise the man on the stairs, as he had a bowler hat on and was looking down as though he was studying the treads of the stairs. The man in the passage was standing in the first place in the middle of the passage. When the man was coming down the stairs he was at the foot of the stairs looking towards the man coming down. When the other man came into the passage they went towards the head of the basement stair
<lb/>case. I saw Ross side-face when he was standing towards the stair
<lb/>case. I had an opportunity of identifying him when he was arrested.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Purcell. There is a garden in front of the house and steps up to the door. The letter-box is a little higher than midway up the door. It would be level with my eye as I was going up the steps. It was defective. The aperture was clear. As Thompson was coming down the stairs his head was bowed and his</p>
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<p>face was covered by the brim of his hat. I could not see enough of him to recognise him. The next opportunity of observing was when the two men came out of the door. Thompson was behind. At that time there was a policeman in front of the house. Thomp
<lb/>son ran back into the house pretty quickly. I had long enough opportunity of seeing him even then, a good many seconds. One prisoner was arrested three or four steps down. The man that came down stairs did not stay there very long. He turned down to the basement. He stood there for some seconds. When I went to the police station to identify there were fair and dark men. I could not say whether there were more fair than dark. I said I was sure of my man when I touched Thompson. The officer in charge did not tell the men to take their hats off.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RHODES</hi>, 234 M. On the evening of February 24 I was in Furlong Road. At No. 16 I was spoken to by last witness. I got on to the back gate overlooking the garden. I saw Ross stand
<lb/>ing in the area doorway. When he saw me he rushed back into the house. I then ran to the front doorway. When half way up the steps I saw both prisoners come out of the premises. Rose opened the door and the other followed him. The door was left open. Ross whispered to Thompson, who rushed back into the house and slammed the door. Ross was left outside. The postman, Hayes, said, "That is one of the men." Ross said, "I do not know what you mean." I cautioned prisoner. He then said, "I live here." Another constable was then there. Prosecutor's wife was looking out of the area window. She shouted, "Help, there is a man in my house." She let us in. In Ross's presence I asked her if she knew the man and whether he resided there. She said, "I do not know the man. He does not reside here." He was afterwards taken to Caledonian Road Police Station. I did not lose sight of him after I arrested him on the steps. On March 8 I was at Caledonian Road Station and picked out Thompson, not-withstanding he had put on a different coat, changed his tie and altered his appearance as much as possible. I recognised him en
<lb/>tirely by his features.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Turrell. The night was dark, but it was a light road. There was a lamp on the opposite side of the road. I was not aware until afterwards that Ross lives in Gibson Square. Furlong Road is not in the least on the way from the "Nag's Head" to Gibson Square. I arrested Ross about 8 ft. from the gate on the third step from the top. There were a few people collecting there as I arrested him. It is not possible Ross was the first man of the crowd that came up. I saw him in the area and then on the third step as he was coming out of the premises. The other man went through the premises and escaped at the back. I am positive Ross was the man that was standing there; that he rushed through the house and came to the front of the premises, and also that Thompson was on the step, and before the man escaped at the rear of the premises got away I had Ross in custody.</p>
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<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Purcell. It was about a second after Thompson saw me that he ran back and slammed the door. I saw his face quite plain, his tie, and his coat. I did not say when I saw Thompson in the row of men that he had a different tie and coat. The coat collar and tie did not assist me in the recognition. When the man was on the stairs I had not time to see the colour and description of the tie. When I identified him at the station he had a muffler on which he had not on the steps of the house. I recognised him by his features.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-102" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE D'ALBERT</persName> </hi>, 16, Furlong Road, Holloway, music-hall artist. On February 24 I left home about 5.45 p.m. to keep an engagement and returned soon after midnight. I found the hall door had been forcibly entered. I missed three diamond rings, two diamond scarf pins, and two gold bracelets value £150. I charged prisoner Ross next day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUNY D'ALBERT</hi>. I remember my husband going out about 5.45 p.m. on February 24. I lay down on a couch in the base
<lb/>ment. I heard a whisper, the dog barked, and then I heard foot
<lb/>steps. Then I heard someone shout, "Joe, the police." I got quickly up, opened the door, and then a man rushed quickly past me, opened the garden door, and ran down the garden. I ran down the garden and shouted for help. I went back to the house and found Ross in the hall in custody of the police.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POWELL</hi>. I was in Furlong Road on Feb
<lb/>ruary 24 at 9.40 p.m. I found the front door of No. 16 had been forced open. Ross was then at the station under arrest. I saw Thompson on March 7 at King's Cross Road Police Station. I told him I was a police officer and should arrest him on suspicion of being concerned with a man named Ross, who was arrested on Feb
<lb/>ruary 24, for breaking into 16, Furlong Road. He made no reply.</p>
<p>On the 8th he was placed with eight other men at the Caledonian Road Police Station, and after about twenty minutes, to see if we could find men near his stature and colour, he was picked out by the witness Hayes and police-constable 262. Before he was put with the other men Thompson said to the inspector in charge of the station, "I want no one here but you." The inspector told me to go into his office. As soon as I left I saw through the glass window he took off the coat he is now wearing and borrowed a coat from a clerk. He also put on a muffler to cover up his collar and tie. After the identification he was charged. He made no reply to the charge in my hearing. I found a skeleton key on him.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Thompson complained of being placed among so many fair men. There were six dark men and three fair. I could see the identification through the window of the office.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BACKER</hi>, 779 N. I was at 16, Furlong Road at 7.45 p.m. on February 24. There was a crowd outside the gate. Police-constable Rhodes was on the steps. He had prisoner Ross. I heard Ross say to him, "I live here." Mrs. D'Albert was at the area window. She shouted, "There is a man in my house." She opened the door at my request. I took Ross into the hall. I asked Mrs.</p>
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<p>D'Albert if she knew the man. She said, "I do not know the man; he does not live here."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. When I first saw Ross he was in custody on the steps. They are eight or nine feet from the gate. I am sure Ross did not say he lived near there; he said, "I live here."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-103" type="given" value="HARRY"/>HARRY ROSS</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). On February 24 I was coming from the "Nag's Head." I had a call to make at Drayton Park. I looked in at a restaurant there, which is right alongside Furlong Road. Gibson Square is in Liverpool Road, and by going through Furlong Road you cut off a big corner. I went through that road that night. As I was approaching the house where the burglary was committed I saw the constable walk across the road and enter the gate. The postman was standing at the gate and, naturally enough, I stood there. There were six or seven people outside the house then. Others came along; there were perhaps 30 or 40. The postman explained it was a burglary. I was arrested on the footpath. The front of this house has shrubs all along, so that you had to be in front of the crowd to get a view of the door. Perhaps 20 or 30 people were endeavouring to see what would happen. When I was arrested I had my hand right on the gate. As I stood there I saw the front door open. I saw a man come as far as the gate. The constable was on the side fence. He came off the fence towards the front gate where the postman was standing. The postman practically arrested me. He said, "This is one of them," and the constable got hold of me. I said, "What do you mean? You have made a mistake." I did not say I lived there. It was on the way to the station I said, "I live close here." I said, "The idea of my entertaining such a thing as this close to where I live. I would not do such a thing."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I heard the postman and constable give their evidence. It is untrue. I heard the constable ask Mrs. D'Albert if she knew me and if I lived there. She said, "I have never seen him before." I do not know why he asked the question. I am not sup
<lb/>posed to know the constable's reason for asking. In my opinion the police would not have arrested me if the postman had not pointed me out. I was one of the first 12 or 15 people to arrive outside the gate on the footpath. I was taken into the house by the police. I did not pass the gate before that. I was there two or three minutes before I was arrested. I knew no one in the crowd. I only wish I had some friends among the crowd. I did not see a man come out of the house. I did not say anything to my counsel about seeing a man come out of the house. I saw somebody open the door and go back into the house. I could not give any description of him. I have known Thompson many years.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-104" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM THOMPSON</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I live at 51, Rising
<lb/>hill Street, N. I was arrested opposite the premises of Mr. Abrahams, a furniture dealer. I was not at the house which was broken into. I have known Ross for years. I expect the reason why I have been apprehended is that the police know me as a companion of Ross.</p>
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<p>The key found on me is my street door key. On the day of the bur
<lb/>glary I was at a matinee at Collins' Music Hall. I left there at 5.30; went home, had tea and a wash, and came out again at 7.5 or 7.10 p.m., went over to Abrahams to see if he wanted me. From 7.30 to 8 I was outside his shop. The postman and policeman are mistaken in their identification.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. On February 24 I was outside Mr. Abrahams' shop from 7.10 to 8 p.m. He is my father-in-law. I am outside there nearly every night. I do not remember seeing Ross on Febru
<lb/>ary 24. I cannot say I know Furlong Road. I have not been in it to my knowledge. I had not been with Ross since February 24. I did not know he was under arrest. I did not get a fair chance at the identification. There was not one dark man among the lot. I put the muffler round my neck and changed my coat because I was the only dark man. When I objected the Inspector said, "If you want to get dark people you will have to wait a twelvemonth." I did not know if the man who committed the robbery was fair or dark.</p>
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<p>Numerous convictions were proved against both prisoners; Ross is known in the district where he lives as the King of Housebreakers.</p>
<p>Sentences: Thompson,
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<p>(Thursday, April 7.)</p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. Bodkin prosecuted; Mr. Daniel Warde defended.</p>
<p>Prisoner was stated to have been stealing goods from his employers, Moser, Limited, for a period of two years. He had made restitution to the amount of £475 in cash and £171 worth of goods had been re
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<p>Mr. H. Cassie Holden prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-108" type="given" value="HENRY MATTHEW"/>HENRY MATTHEW BERESFORD</persName> </hi>, secretary of Oastler, Palmer and Company, Limited, Market Street, Bermondsey, tanners and leather merchants. The bill of exchange (produced) was drawn by me on my firm's printed form, filled up on March 12, and dated March 14, 1910, for £435 at four months upon Smith, Culpeck and Company, Limited, High Street, Homerton. It was not signed by one of our</p>
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<p>directors, and was handed by me to Mr. James Smith, our managing director, for the purpose of its being presented to Smith, Culpeck and Company, and obtaining their acceptance. Ordinarily tills would be sent to Smith, Culpeck and Company by post, and returned accepted. This bill was forwarded on March 12, and has not been received back by my firm. It is now altered in date from March 14, 1910, to Novem
<lb/>ber 14, 1909; the signature of "J. Caradine, Director," has been added. We have no director named Caradine. In respect of the date and the signature of Caradine the bill is a forgery. It has been accepted by Smith, Culpeck and Company—the acceptance is genuine.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-110" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH HORN</persName> </hi>, clerk to Smith, Culpeck and Company, Limited. I keep the postage-book (produced) of my firm. On March 14 I find an entry of a postage of a letter to Oastler, Palmer and Company, Limited. I handed the letter to Laura Hassall, messenger, employed by my firm.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-111" type="given" value="LAURA"/>LAURA HASSALL</persName> </hi>, messenger to Smith, Culpeck and Company, Limited. I remember receiving letters on March 14 from the last witness, which I posted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-112" type="given" value="THOMAS BAILEY"/>THOMAS BAILEY SMITH</persName> </hi>, cashier, West Smithfield branch, London City and Midland Bank. Smith, Culpeck and Company, Limited, have an account at my bank. On March 16 prisoner presented at my bank bill produced. I asked prisoner how he would take it, when he said, "I want £90 in gold and the remainder in small Bank of England notes." I examined it and noticed the date had been altered, and that it was unendorsed. On holding it to the light I saw very plainly somebody had been tampering with the date. I said to pri
<lb/>soner, "The date has been altered—where did you get it from." He said that it was given to him by Mr. Oastler, who lived at Market Street, Bermondsey. I communicated with my manager. A police officer was sent for, and prisoner was given into custody. The bill being dated November 14, 1909, would not be payable until March 17, 1910. The bill required endorsement. It has not been endorsed. Prisoner was dressed fairly respectably—he had a collar, tie and over
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<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. You were detained about an hour and a half while we were making inquiries. You came to the bank at about 2.50 p.m., and were immediately given into custody.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">HERBERT HINE</hi>, City. On March 16, in company with Detective-sergeant Stewart, I went to the London City and Midland Bank, West Smithfield, where I saw the prisoner. I said, "We are police officers; I am given to understand that you presented this bill of exchange for £435, the date of which I am told has been altered." He said, "Yes, I presented it." I said, "Where did you get it?" He said, "A bookmaker sent me with it from the 'Provence' public house, Leicester Square; he said he lived at 24 or 26 Market Street, Bermondsey. His pitch is between Chancery Lane and the next turn
<lb/>ing in Holborn towards Oxford Circus. He told me if I was asked who it was for to say 'Mr. Oastler,' and I was to take the money back to him at the 'Provence' public house. I have met him seven or eight times, and have had a bet with him. I saw him first about eighteen months ago, and have seen him about twice since." I said, What is your name?"; he said "William Smith"; I said, "Where do you live?"; he said, "I decline to say." I then said, "I shall take you into custody, and you will be charged with forging and utter
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<lb/>ing the bill of exchange together with a letter and a cheque." On the way to the police station he said, "I did not know it was stolen." I have made inquiries at 24 and 26 Market Street.</p>
<p>Held that the result of the inquiries could not be given unless asked for by the prisoner. I have endeavoured to find the bookmaker referred to but have been unsuccessful. Prisoner was dressed much as he is now—he had a black hard felt hat on.</p>
<p>To prisoner. You did not say that you had seen the bookmaker several times two weeks ago; you said you had known him 18 months. You did not say you had had two bets with him.</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the magistrate: I would not have gone with it, but this bookmaker what I see in the "Provence" told me it was sent to him for a racing debt, and said he took it into his bank there where he had his banking account, and said he asked one of the clerks there if that was a genuine bill and the clerk said, "Yes; I cannot see nothing wrong with it; as long as you present it at that date everything will be there waiting for it." That is the reason I took it when he said that.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-113" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMITH</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath). I was passing along Hol
<lb/>born on March 16; just when I got three doors beyond Chancery Lane by a bookshop I heard somebody call. I turned round and saw this man. I first saw him 18 months ago up at Muswell Hill Road at a boxing competition. We got talking to one another; I have seen him several times since. Three weeks before this happened I had two bets with him. I took him to be a straightforward man. When I saw him he said, "What are you doing; are you doing any work?" I said, "No;" so he said, "See me at two o'clock outside the 'Pro
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<p>right." I went to the "Provence" Hotel at 2 p.m. He said, "Will you have a drink?" I said, "Yes"; we went into the private bar, he paid for a drink and said, "Look here, I have had this bill sent to me for a racing debt; I took it into my bank yesterday morning and asked the clerk if it was genuine, and the clerk said it was genuine"—as long as he presented it at that certain date at the Smithfield branch of the London City and Midland Bank—"the money will be there waiting for you." I thought it sounded alright. He said, "I have got to stop here to see a friend, if it is paid bring it here." I had had nothing to do all the week, my boots were hang
<lb/>ing off my feet, and I thought I knew the man to be alright. I said, "What is the good of my going to get £400—what name shall I give—do you think I will get it." He said, "It has only to be paid—it is all right. This is a genuine thing, I have had it sent to me for a racing debt. When you get the money ask for £90 in gold and the rest in small notes." I said, "They are sure to ask for your name. What name shall I give? I do not know where you live." He said, "My name is Oastler—I live at 24 or 26"—(I am not sure which)—"Market Street, Bermondsey. I will wait here for you till you come back."</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted on July 2, 1909, at Winchester Assizes of stealing and forging a banker's cheque for £17 19s. 9d., and sentenced to nine months' hard labour, after several other convictions.</p>
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<p>Mr. Samuel prosecuted; Mr. Kent defended.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-116" type="given" value="PATRICK"/>PATRICK MAHER</persName> </hi>. On February 18 I was living at Smith's Buildings, Flower and Dean Street, Spitalfields, with Alice Maher, whom I have lived with for eight years. About 12 p.m. I went upstairs to my land-lady about a package in the room. I heard a bustling at the bottom of the staircase—it was quite dark—and I received a stab in my chin. I turned and ran out, and I received another stab in my thigh near the groin; it tore the trousers. I went to the door, when I saw a man running away towards Whitechapel Road, whom I identify as the pri
<lb/>soner by his build, and by a mackintosh I have seen him wear—I do not know the colour of it. I have known the prisoner for several years, and am sure he is the man. I went into the room, lost a lot of blood, and fainted, and was then assisted to the London Hospital by two young women. It was about half a mile; I fell down three times on the road. Six stitches were put in my chin and two in my thigh. I came home, the stitches burst, and I was taken to the police-station, where the wounds were dressed by the divisional surgeon, and I re
<lb/>mained in the station till the following morning. I made and signed a statement at the station. I was then sent to the Whitechapel Infirmary as an in-patient, and remained there a fortnight. I next saw the prisoner on March 6, at 3.55 p.m.; he came into the infirmary</p>
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<p>to see me. He looked in the door, and said, "I am sorry for what happened to you." I said, "I have got it, and I suppose I must put up with it." There were a number of other people in the room, and prisoner asked if they were all right; were they straight people. I said as far as I knew they were all right. He then went out in a hurry. He came in looking frightened as if he thought he might be appre
<p>Cross-examined. I made the charge against prisoner at the police-court at seven o'clock the morning after I was stabbed. I told the policeman there it was Tommy Taylor, but that I would not charge him. I had had on February 18 quite sufficient drink. I cannot recollect telling the policeman that I did not know who stabbed me; I knew it was the prisoner; I am a street trader, and have worked all over England. I have been a licensed pedlar, but I now sell in the gutter. I have stood outside the Empire at Shepherd's Bush for two years by permission of the police. I have also worked the Holloway Road and Seven Sisters Road, and Old Street, selling postcards and pirated music. I live with Alice Maher; I give her money averaging £1 a week, sometimes more, sometimes less. A few weeks before this happened I lived with Alice at 4, Queensland Road, Holloway. She did not go out at night. I did not see the prisoner stab me; I saw him running away afterwards—I did not see his face; I saw his back; I say it is the prisoner. I did not tell the constable I did not know who did it; I could recognise the prisoner.</p>
<p>Mr. Kent tendered in evidence the statement made by prosecutor at the police-station. Held not to be evidence.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRITZ ASHBURGER</hi>, Receiving-room Officer at the London Hospital. Prosecutor was brought to me on the morning of February 18. He had an incised wound on the left side of the lower part of his face and a shorter but rather deeper wound on the outer side of the right thigh, apparently caused by a sharp instrument. I attended to his injuries. He appeared to be sober.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I only saw prosecutor once in the receiving-room; he was there about ten minutes, and I gave him a letter as an out-patient; he did not attend the hospital afterwards. I formed the opinion that he had had two or three drinks, but he was not drunk; he was in rather an excitable condition. The wounds were not serious; he had lost a certain amount of blood.</p>
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<lb/>firmary. Prosecutor was admitted to the infirmary on February 23. He had an incised wound on the left side of the jaw and a punctured wound on the right side of the thigh; he needed rest and treatment. On February 26 he took his discharge against my advice, returned on February 28, and remained in the infirmary till March 9, when both wounds were healed, and he was able to walk. I have not examined him since.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-118" type="given" value="ALICE"/>ALICE MAHER</persName> </hi>. I have been living with prosecutor for the last eight years. On February 18 we had just moved into 25, Brick Lane. On February 19, at about 12.45 a.m., prosecutor went out to see the landlady. He was not drunk; he had had about two drinks. He</p>
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<p>called out, "Oh! I am stabbed; there is a knife in my leg." I got him upstairs into the first floor front room; no one was on the stairs, but I heard a voice which I recognised as the prisoner's, whom I have known for about two years. He called out, "Patsy, Patsy, come dawn, you bastard." I looked out of the window and saw prisoner running up the street; I only saw his back. I recognised him by the mackintosh he was wearing; it was fawn colour; I have seen him wearing it several times when he has come to Flower and Dean Street. On February 21 I went with a girl friend to the "Woodin's Shades" public-house, when prisoner, with three other friends, came in, one of whom, named May, whom I know, paid for a drink. Prisoner asked me where Patsy was. I said I did not know. He said, "I am sorry for what I did; I did not mean it for Patsy; it was meant for Wolfy." I know Wolfy is living in Flower and Dean Street. Prisoner's wife then came in, and he was talking to her. He afterwards said to me, "If you prosecute me we shall do for you." On the night of the occurrence I made a statement at the police-station.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I was a few minutes getting prosecutor into the front room. I then saw prisoner about 50 yards away standing in the middle of the road. There were several people at the corner of Flower and Dean Street. I cannot swear that prisoner did not say, "I am sorry for what has happened to Patsy; it was meant for Wolfy."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN CAVAN</hi>, H Division. On March 18, with Detective Smart, I saw prisoner at 15, Spring Gardens, King Edward Street, If he End, in bed. I woke him and told him that I would take him into custody for feloniously cutting and wounding Patrick Maher. He said, "I know Patsy Maher. That is not my game—chivvying; I believe in a fair fight; he ought to come copper" (meaning become a policeman) "he is only a ponce." Prisoner was taken to Commercial Street Police Station, where the charge was read over to him, and he made no reply. I arrested him in consequence of information given by the prosecutor, Alice Maher, and Lily Smith, at Commercial Street Police Station on February 18, between 4 and 5 a.m. (To the Judge.) I did not arrest him before March 18 because we could not find him.</p>
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<p>Mr. Campbell prosecuted.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">FREDERICK GUNNER</hi>, City Police. On March 14, at 2.30 p.m., I was on duty in plain clothes in Lime Street in company with Detective O'Meara, when I saw the three prisoners walking together. We suspected them, and followed them to Ship Tavern Passage, where the three stood talking for several minutes, separated, and mixed amongst a number of persons who were looking into a shop window.</p>
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<p>Newton placed himself near the prosecutor, while Nash and White stood immediately behind, covering his movements. Newton then took watch (produced) from prosecutor's left waistcoat pocket, and attempted to take it from the chain. Failing to do so he used both hands, and forced the watch from the chain by breaking the bow. He was then in the act of passing it to Nash, who was standing behind, when I placed my hand down by his side, and he put the watch into my hand. I put the watch into my pocket, and the three prisoners were arrested. White commenced to struggle. They were taken to the Minories Police Station, when they were charged. Newton and Nash made no reply. White said, "I do not know these two men; you have made a great mistake, and I will make it hot for you in the morning." From the time I first saw them to the taking of the watch was about eight to ten minutes.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I saw Nash light his pipe; he had his hands in his pocket, but when he entered the crowd he took them out. Nash and White stood about a yard behind Newton. (To White.) There were 20 or 30 people round the window.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">EDMUND O'MEARA</hi>, City Police, corroborated the last witness.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-123" type="given" value="HAROLD JAMES WALTER"/>HAROLD JAMES WALTER SCOTT</persName> </hi>, clerk to the Deutsche Bank, George Yard, Lombard Street. On March 14, at about 2.30 p.m., I was in Ship Tavern Passage, looking in a shop window amongst a crowd, and wearing a silver watch (produced). I heard a click in the neighbour
<lb/>hood of my waistcoat, and found my watch was gone. I saw prisoner Newton by my side, but before I could make any movement the de
<lb/>tective said, "I have got your watch in my pocket." The three pri
<lb/>soners were taken into custody. I did not see the other prisoners until they were arrested.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-124" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES NASH</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath.) The detective said I was on the left-hand side of the man who had got the watch. How could I be covering him.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-125" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WHITE</persName> </hi> (prisoner, not on oath.) How could I be implicated if I was a yard behind Newton? If I had wanted to cover his move
<lb/>ments I should be close up to him. It is ridiculous to charge me. I am just taken on suspicion because I happened to be close where the robbery took place. This man is a perfect stranger to me; I never saw him in my life before. It is ridiculous to implicate me.</p>
<p>Verdict (Nash and White),
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<p>Newton confessed to having been convicted of felony on February 15, 1905, at Newington Sessions in the name of of
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-126" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>Thomas Murphy</persName>; Nash to having been convicted of felony at Knutsford, Cheshire, on July 4, 1900, in the name of
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<p>The three prisoners pleaded not guilty to being habitual criminals.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES BROWN</hi>, City Police. Newton's first con
<lb/>viction was in 1865, when he was sentenced to 18 months' hard labour at this court; in 1868 he had seven years' penal servitude; in 1877 he was sentenced to ten years' penal servitude and five years' police supervision at Middlesex Sessions. Sentences of three months, three months, six weeks, etc., followed. In 1888 he had 12 months; in 1890 months; in 1893 20 months; in 1899 five years' penal servitude; then license revoked; 21 months at South London Sessions under the Prevention of Grimes Act; three months' at Ascot Race
<lb/>course; three months at the Mansion House; there were also 13 sum
<lb/>mary convictions, making 32 convictions in all. Nash first came under the notice of the police in 1887, when he received 21 days' hard labour at Sheffield, followed by a number of short sentences; in 1897, 12 months hard labour; in 1900, three years' penal servitude, and afterwards 18 months' hard labour. White has had 28 convictions in all, commencing in 1872 with six months' hard labour at Birmingham; then 18 months' hard labour; seven years' penal servitude, and five years' police supervision; in 1882 at Dublin, five years' penal servi
<lb/>tude; in 1902, at North London Sessions, three years' penal servitude.</p>
<p>The Recorder stated' that he should not deal with the prisoners as habitual criminals on the present charge.</p>
<p>Sentence, Newton,
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<p>Mr. Pickersgill, M. P., prosecuted; Mr. Daniel Warde defended (at the request of the Court).</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-131" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER ROSE</persName> </hi>, tobacconist, 798, Goswell Road. At 3.30 p.m., on March 10, prisoner came in and asked for a twopenny cigar, tendering a florin in payment. I put his florin with a sixpence on one side of the scale and a good florin on the other side, to show that his was bad, since they balanced. I then took two good florins and rubbed the millings together, and then rubbed his bad florin against a good florin, and showed him the difference in the sound. He took it into his hand and looked at it. He then gave me a half-crown, and I gave him in change a florin and fourpence in coppers. I do not think it was the same florin as I had weighed that I gave him, but it was one of the two florins I had been rubbing together. Two men named Wilsdon and Cable were in the shop all the time. Prisoner left, and</p>
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<p>about 30 minutes later he came back, and said that the florin I had given him was a bad one. He handed me a bad florin, and I said it was not the one I had given him. We then walked across the road to a constable just opposite. I told him all that had occurred. I cannot remember exactly what prisoner said, but he must have said something to the effect that the bad florin was the one I had given him. The constable said the best thing to do was for all of us to go to the station, and we went. I gave him the bad florin the prisoner had given me.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I have had three or four bad coins passed to me within the last three or four months besides this one. I told that to the inspector at the station, and that I was very careful now, and that I always broke them up. I do not know why I did not break up pri
<lb/>soner's bad florin. I do not remember whether or not I said at the police-court that I weighed it. I may have spoken to Wilsdon about this case since prisoner has been in custody. Wilsdon never mentioned anything to me about weighing the bad florin with a sixpence. He has been a regular customer, but I had not seen him for three months. I cannot say that Cable is a regular customer. The reason I did not call a policeman when prisoner tendered the bad florin was because I did not suspect him; he told me that he had got it in change from a paper-shop. I did not see anybody outside the shop; I was behind the counter. I had not seen prisoner before that day. I suspected him after he left my shop because Cable said, "This looks rather fishy; I have seen those gentlemen for the last three or four hours walking from shop to shop watching prisoner." He was referring to two young fellows outside who were watching prisoner. I cannot say why Cable did not send for a policeman. There is no policeman on point duty just outside; he happened to be there when prisoner and I went out to look for one. Cable came in because he wanted me to do some printing for him; I carry on a printing business as well. As soon as Cable said this I went out of the shop and saw the two men watching where prisoner was going. Sometimes Goswell Road is a busy street and sometimes not. I cannot tell you whether there were a lot of people walking about at this time. While holding the bad florin and a good florin in his hand I believe prisoner did say, "How am I going to know whether I shall make another mistake." The florin I gave him in change I took out of the till. I am very careful about taking bad money. I have an assistant whose duty it is to take money as well as myself; I am not always in the shop. When prisoner came back I was not in the shop, and he asked my assistant for me. The assistant is not going to be called. I could not say whether prisoner led the way to the policeman; we both went together. I do not re
<lb/>member who spoke first to him, because I was so excited. When we got to the station the inspector asked me if I had any witnesses, and then I went back for Cable and Wilsdon. Prisoner gave a bad florin to the officer, and told him that he had had one, and I had given him the other. On the first occasion prisoner handed the bad florin to Wilsdon to look at it. I do not know whether Wilsdon or Cable saw where I took the florin from that I gave the prisoner in change.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-132" type="given" value="ERNEST ADOLPHUS"/>ERNEST ADOLPHUS WILSDON</persName> </hi>, jeweller's assistant, 8, Upper Charles Street, Goswell Road. Between 3 and 4 p.m. on March 10 I went into Rose's shop, where I found him behind the counter and prisoner in the shop. No one else was there at the time. Rose had a florin in one part of the scale and a florin and a sixpence in the other, and he was weighing them, showing that the florin and the sixpence balanced with the other florin. He then handed the florin to prisoner, saying that he could see it was a bad one, as there was a difference in the weight. Prisoner then tendered a half-crown to pay for the cigar he had purchased, and Rose gave him a florin and 4d. in coppers in change, remarking on the difference between that and the florin that prisoner had tendered. He took a coin from his pocket, and rubbed the edge of it with the edge of the florin he was giving in change to show that it was a good one. Prisoner then took the good florin and the bad florin in his hand, and said, "Which is the good and which is the bad between these two?" I was standing by his side, and I said, "Well, there is no doubt about which is the bad one. Anyone can see that is the good one." He took it back and sounded it. I had the good one in my hand and gave it back to him. Cable came in very shortly after I entered the shop and stood behind us. He would be able to see all I saw. I cannot remember anything else being said."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. We do not have a shop where I work, and casual customers do not come in. I stayed for a few moments after prisoner left; I used the telephone. I could not see into the shop from the passage where the telephone was, and I did not see Cable go out. I may have said a few words to Rose about the bad florin before I went to the telephone. I did not see anybody out in the street watching prisoner; he came in and out like an ordinary customer. I cannot say whether there was any conversation between Rose and Cable. I said to prisoner that it was rather an unfortunate thing he should have got hold of this bad florin. There was no talk of going for a policeman while he was in the shop. As I left the shop Rose said that he thought it was rather suspicious, and that if I saw a policeman I might ask him to keep his eyes open. To the best of my belief Cable was there when he said that. This was after I had been to the tele
<lb/>phone. I heard nothing more until I was called to the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-133" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CABLE</persName> </hi>, printer, 28, Gayhurst Road, Dalston. Between 3 and 4 p.m. on March 10 I went to Rose's shop, when I saw him behind the counter and prisoner and Wilsdon in the shop. Rose was in the act of rubbing the two florins together. I then saw prisoner with the two coins in his hand just previous to his going out, and he asked Wilsdon as to which was the good one and which was the bad one, or something to that effect. Wilsdon said, "You can see which is the good and which is the bad." Previous to entering the shop my attention was attracted by two men standing at the corner of a turning just by Rose's shop, because they were rather smartly dressed. A little pre
<lb/>vious to this, about 3.30 p.m., I was at work in the factory when I noticed a man coming along Old Street. I thought "What a smart-looking fellow," and then thought no more of it, and went on with my work. I had occasion some time after to go into Rose's shop,</p>
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<p>when I stopped to look at a motor which was being backed down a gateway in Lever Street. I happened to turn round, and I saw this man that I had seen in Old Street standing at the corner of Lever Street. I happened to look round a second time, and I saw another man just walk away from the first one. The next time I turned round to look at these men prisoner was standing there, making three people. He was in the act of leaving them, and was coming towards me. I would not say he was with the other men. This was before I entered the shop.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I waited there two or three minutes after prisoner had left the men. I could not say if he was looking at the motor as well as I. There are a lot of workshops in Goswell Road, and there are lots of workpeople about there at this time of day. I had never seen these men before. I had no suspicions at all in the matter until I saw prisoner in the shop. I am a journeyman printer; Rose works for us. I know from the papers that during the last four or five months there has been a sum of bad money passed in North London. I heard prisoner say, "How shall I be able to tell the difference between the good one and the bad one." I would not say that state
<lb/>ment made me feel suspicious. I stopped three to five minutes after prisoner left Wilsdon, Wilsdon left before I did. Rose said he felt suspicious of prisoner. I said, "Well, on top of what I have seen I feel suspicious." I then went back to my business.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES COOPER</hi>, 149 G. About 4.20 p.m., on March 10, I was in Goswell Road, near Rose's shop, when prisoner and Rose came to me together. Prisoner spoke first. He said he had been to Rose's shop for a cigar, and had changed a half-crown, and that Rose had given him a bad florin with the change. He gave me this bad florin (produced), and Rose, who was close behind, gave me another bad florin (produced). Rose said that prisoner had come into his shop, and had tendered a bad florin which he had refused to take, and returned it; that prisoner had gone away, and after a half an hour or so he had come back, and had said that the florin in his change was a bad one, and that he had given prisoner a good one. I took them both to the station. I searched prisoner, and found he had only 8d. in coppers on him. He said nothing when charged.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. Prisoner made no attempt to get away when I took them to the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-134" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>, Inspector of Coins, H. M. Mint. These two florins are both counterfeit. The dates are 1905 and 1906. They are a fair average make—not the best make. One is as good as the other</p>
<p>Cross-examined. In my experience I very often find a man dealing with counterfeit coins deal with coins of different dates; they would rather do so.</p>
<p>Prisoner's statement before the magistrate: "Are the coins of the same date and of the same make. The prosecutor says he always breaks coins. He did not break the one I gave him. I found the coin he gave me was bad and I came back with it."</p>
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<p>Cross-examined. As far as I remember I have lodged at 7, Temple Street, for three weeks. I cannot remember the name of the landlady. I am not sure of the number of the rooms. There were other lodgers, including a commercial traveller, who offered to share a room with me and my little boy. I know a man named Harrison; I have not to my knowledge seen him at Temple Street. I do not know what he is; he is only a casual acquaintance. I did not speak to any
<lb/>body when I left Rose's shop, and I did not receive any money. I had 4d. in coppers on me when I went into Rose's shop, as well as the other money. I have often tendered silver when I have had suffi
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<p>To the Judge: When I came out of the shop I had two bad florins and 8d. in bronze. They found on me the 8d. in bronze and two bad florins, one being the florin that prosecutor gave me and the other which I gave unintentionally in the first place.</p>
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<p>With regard to the indictment for embezzling, of which prisoner had pleaded guilty, it was stated that the £13 17s. represented two days' takings, for which, as a carman, he had failed to account.</p>
<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted at the North London Sessions on November 8, 1904, where he was sentenced to 15 months' hard labour for stealing a tricycle, in the name of
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<p>The Common Serjeant said that, as prisoner had spent four years and a half apparently leading an honest life, and this was his first con
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<p>Mr. Pickersgill, M. P., prosecuted.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ARTHUR NEAL</hi>, Y Division. About 7.40 p.m. on March 26, I was with Sergeant Powell in Kentish Town Road, when I saw prisoner, who was joined by another man. Prisoner went a little way down a turning by the side of a public-house and close to a urinal in the dark. The other man followed him, and something transpired between them; I could not say what. When they returned the other man went into the public house and prisoner walked a little way up the road, when the other man joined him. They walked to the corner of another turning where there was a public-house, and they went together a little way down in the dark. On coming back again they walked up to the corner of Holmes Road, where the other man went into the side bar and prisoner into the public bar. After a few minutes prisoner came out and stood at the corner. Shortly after he was joined by the other man. Sergeant Powell, by my directions, had gone round behind prisoner and I closed up in front. As Powell took hold of him by the arms I closed up about the same time, and he threw up his left hand, and some coins dropped to the ground. I succeeded in taking two coins from his hand, and they turned out to be two counterfeit half-crowns, dated 1888 (produced). There was a violent struggle between prisoner and Powell. I assisted to restrain prisoner, and succeeded also in picking up from the ground three more counterfeit half-crowns, which were dated 1888 (produced). Detec
<lb/>tive Reed, who had come from the direction of the station, went in pursuit of the other man, but lost him in the crowd. When Reed returned he handed me two more half-crowns dated 1888. Prisoner was taken to the station, and on the way he said, "I did not throw those coins away; it was the other man." When charged at the station he said, "No, not with intent to utter. The other man came up and asked me to hold them." I afterwards returned to the spot where the</p>
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<p>coins had fallen, and just over a grating of one of the gutters I found this other counterfeit half-crown, dated 1888. I could not keep separate the two half-crowns that I took from his hand and the three half-crowns that I picked up from the ground, but apparently they are from the same mould and of the same date. On searching pri
<lb/>soner I found this little brush (produced) which might be used for dusting the coins after a certain powder has been put over them; this piece of wire (produced) on which a coin may be fixed in order to put it into a battery, or to dip it in liquid silver; a return half ticket from Poplar to Highbury, and 1 1/2 d. in money. He gave his address as 48, Acre Lane, Brixton, which is some miles away from where he was found with these coins.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS POWELL</hi>, T Division, corroborated the previous witness, and added that on March 28, at the police-court, prisoner said, "I was hard up or I should not have done this; I was only carrying it for another man, and we did not put any down"—meaning that they did not pass any coins.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HAROLD REED</hi>, Y Division, also gave corroborative evi
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<p>Prisoner's statement before the magistrate: "I reserve my defence." Prisoner, called on for his defence, handed in a written statement, which he asked the Judge to read, saying, "I do not wish the public to know what I have to say."</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted at this court upon January 8, 1906, in the name of
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-139" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>William Griffiths</persName>, of coining, when he received five years' penal servitude. It was' stated that his sentence would expire on January 11, 1911, he having been liberated on license on October 22, 1909.</p>
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<p>Mr. H. H. Lawless prosecuted.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-142" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM THURGATE</persName> </hi>, Clerk to St. Mary's Church, Paddington Green. At about 7.45 a.m., on March 21; I found the west door of the church, which I had left locked at 8.50 the previous night, open. I could not get into the vestry as the key was gone. Thinking I had left the key in my pocket I went home, but could not find it I then went back, and the door was forced open. I could not get to the cupboard where the Communion vessels were kept, as the keys were out of their place. They were afterwards found in the corner door; we opened the safe, and went on with the service. On searching afterwards we found this</p>
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<p>silver patten, this little patten, this cup, these offertory keys, belonging to the vicar, a bottle of wine similar to this, without any brand on it (produced), and 3s. in bronze, the "Magazine" money, were missing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANK WILLIAM</hi>, 100 F. At 10.45 p.m., on March 22, I saw prisoner in Edgware Road. He was drunk, but he knew what he was doing. He had this empty bottle (produced) flourishing it in people's faces. I arrested him and took him to the station. This Sacramental cup and this patten (produced) were found upon him. When charged, he said, "I went to the church and drunk the port wine and it got into my head."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ARTHUR ALLEN</hi>, F Division. About 11 p.m., on March 22, I saw prisoner at the station. I told him the charge, and he said, "Do you call it sacred wine? If you do, it has made me drunk." I searched him, and in his right-hand coat pocket I found this patten (produced) in the chamois leather bag (produced). The keys were also found in his pocket. He said, "I met a man at Marble Arch, and he gave me the wine and silver things. I knew he stole them. I gave him sixpence. I knew I had some keys of some sort. I know nothing about a church."</p>
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<p>Prisoner confessed to having been convicted of felony at Leicester Quarter Sessions on October 20, 1908, in the name of
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-35-19100405 t19100405-35-punishment-36"/>Prisoners were released each on his own and two other recognisances in £10 to come up for judgment if called upon.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>Mr. Rooth prosecuted; Mr. Huntly Jenkins defended.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GRIFFITHS</hi>, Lymington, Hants. I have a banking account with Thomas Cook and Son. In January this year I owed a small account of 14s. to Hamley Brothers, Regent Street, and drew a cheque for the amount. This is the cheque, signed by me. It is now made out for £60 14s. I did not authorise or make the alteration. I</p>
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<p>received a communication from Cooks, and wired immediately to stop the cheque, but it had been honoured.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-149" type="given" value="MARY JENNY"/>MARY JENNY MESSENGER</persName> </hi>, clerk, Hamley Brothers, Regent Street. We did not receive the cheque for 14s. The endorsement was not made by the firm or by anybody having their authority.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-150" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD DENLY</persName> </hi>, cashier, Thomas Cook and Son, Ludgate Circus. This cheque was presented on January 10 and cashed by me. I gave 12 £5 notes and 14s. silver. I took the numbers of the notes. I do not recognise the prisoner as the man who cashed the cheque. The firm communicated with Mrs. Griffiths. We received a communication from the Bank of England after we heard the notes had been cashed.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-151" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SWINGER</persName> </hi>, Inspector of the Bank of England. I produce 12 £5 notes. These were paid in on varying dates extending over four or five days.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-152" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS MUTCH</persName> </hi>, licensed victualler, "Three Johns," 73, White Lion Street, N. I have known prisoner over 12 months. On January 15 he asked me to cash a £5 note. I jokingly remarked, "Is it a good one." He said, "Of course it is. I will put my name on." He wrote his name and address on it with my indelible pencil. He was alone. I did not ask how he came possessed of it.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I did not think there was anything wrong about the note, or I should not have taken it. A fortnight afterwards prisoner came into my house after inquiries had been made. He was in and out my place several times.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-153" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK BLACKLOCK</persName> </hi>, "Spanish Patriot" public house, 14, White Lion Street, N. I have known prisoner as a customer about 10 months. He asked me to cash a £5 note on January 15. I gave him £5 in gold.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. I knew him as a customer. He came only once after I cashed the note.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-154" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES STEDDFORD</persName> </hi>, "White Horse" public-house, Liverpool Road, N.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">EDWARD CRAWFORD</hi>, "William the Fourth" public house, 84, Thornhill Road, N.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES HIBBERT</hi>, "Royal Oak" Offord Road, N., and
<hi rend="smallCaps">LOUISA CLOUDE,</hi> manageress, "Cloudesley Arms," Cloudesley Street, N., gave similar evidence.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-155" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM JAVENS</persName> </hi>, "Albion" public house, Thornhill Road, N. I cashed two £5 notes for prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-156" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HARVEY</persName> </hi>, "Prince of Brunswick" public house, Barns
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-157" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR SELLS</persName> </hi>, manager, "King's Arms," 64, Barnsbury Road. On January 15 prisoner came in, called for a glass of beer and asked for change of a £5 note. I told him the governor had the keys, and if he cared to wait a quarter of an hour he could have the change. He waited and got the change.</p>
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<lb/>body with him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMPSON</hi>, City Police. On March 5 I saw prisoner at the Caledonian Road Police Station. I told him I was a police officer, and that he answered the description of a man who had changed a cheque I had in my hand for £60 14s., which was a forgery, at Thomas Cook and Sons Bank, Ludgate Circus, on Janu
<lb/>ary 10. I also told him he answered the description of a man who had changed twelve £5 notes, the proceeds of the forgery, at various public houses in Barnsbury and Islington, and that he would be taken to the station and charged with the offence. He replied, "Yes, sir." On the way to the station he said, "I admit changing the notes one Saturday several weeks ago. I could not say whether there were 10 or 12. As you go from one public house to the other you lose count." He also said he was in Caledonian Market the day before, where he met a rabbit hawker, named Joe, selling his pony and cart. "The man who purchased the pony and cart paid Joe six £5 notes. The three of us then went into a public house, where Joe and the other man started tossing for money, and the other man won six £5 notes from him. I met Joe at the 'Three Johns' at two o'clock, on Saturday, by appointment, when he asked me to change the notes for him, which I did. He gave me £5 for my trouble. About three weeks ago the the landlord of the 'Three Johns' told me there was something wrong with the note he changed for me, and ever since I have been trying to find Joe, but cannot." I said to prisoner can you tell me where Joe is to be found. He said, No; I first met him in White Cross Street 18 months ago." I have made every possible inquiry, but cannot find Joe. The houses at which these notes were changed are all practically in a straight line, and within half a mile.</p>
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<p>Previous convictions proved: November 23, 1899, North London, attempting to steal from the person, six months' hard labour; April 22, 1905, Clerkenwell Police Court, assisting in managing a brothel, three months' hard labour.</p>
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<p>(Thursday, April 7.)</p> </div1>
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<p>Walton pleaded guilty.</p>
<p>Mr. Muir, Mr. Leycester, and Mr. Forster Boulton prosecuted; Mr. Beaufoi Moore defended Russell; Mr. Turrell and Mr. Stephens defended Walters; Mr. George Elliott, K. C., and Mr. Guy Lushington appeared for Walton.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-163" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES NEW</persName> </hi>, storeman at Woolwich Arsenal. I had an uncle named Harry New, who passed as Harry Cole; he died in 1873. After the death of my father in 1882 we found among his papers a P. O. Savings Bank book in the name of Harry Cole (Exhibit 1). On my mother's death in 1905 I took the book to the Post Office authorities, to with-draw the balance of £246 15s. 9d.; I was told that I must take out Letters of Administration. I was recommended to engage Walton as solicitor for this purpose; I went to Walton; he told me there would be no difficulty about the matter; and I left the book with him. From time to time he told me that the matter was proceeding satisfactorily, and I paid him £10 on account of costs. The authority (Exhibit 6) is signed "James New"; that signature is not mine; I never authorised anyone to sign the document or to receive the money on my behalf. I never went before a Mr. Edgley to acknowledge that document; Mr. Edgley is a total stranger to me. I have never received the money.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-164" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER EDGLEY</persName> </hi>, solicitor and commissioner for oaths, 10, Trinity Street, Southwark. Exhibit 6 was acknowledged in my presence on July 9, 1908, by a man who represented himself as the "James New," whose signature the document bears; I am not able to recognise the man; I think another man came with him.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-165" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS M. PLUCKNETT</persName> </hi>, Superintendent P. O. Savings Bank Department. On July 7 Walters called on me with another man, who I cannot identify: he handed me a card with the name "Walton and Co., Solicitors"; he produced Exhibit 1 and the Letters of Administration of Harry Cole's estate, and asked for the necessary form to enable him to draw out the balance due on the book on behalf of his client. I handed him the form, Exhibit 6, to have filled up, and I authorised Finch to issue a warrant for payment of the balance of £246 15s. 9d.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Stephens. Walters made it clear to me that he was acting on behalf of Walton and Co.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-166" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH N. FINCH</persName> </hi>, clerk in the P. O. Savings Bank Department, proved the dispatch of the warrant (Exhibit 13) to "Walton and Co., solicitors."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-167" type="given" value="STAPLETON"/>STAPLETON F. GREVILLE</persName> </hi>, Accountant's Banknote Office, Bank of England, produced twenty-one banknotes, one for £100, one for £50, and nineteen £5 notes; they had been paid in by different banks. One of the £5 notes, paid in on July 13, has on it "H. E. Walters, 39, Lower Kennington Lane."</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-169" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD T. ELLIS</persName> </hi>. In August last I entered the service of Walton at 29, Thomas Street, Woolwich, and remained till early in October. Walton lived on the premises; he also had an office at Lower Kenning
<lb/>ton Lane, which was looked after by Walters, and an office at Chichester Rents, Chancery Lane, looked after by Charles Taplin. On leaving the Woolwich office in October I went to the Chichester Rents office, and was there till December. Walton and Walters spoke to me about New's claim on the post office. Walters told me that he went with Norris to the post office and got the money and handed it to Walton; he said that Walton gave about £45 of the money to Norris; Walton himself also told me that. I am acquainted with Walton's and Walters's hand-writing. On Exhibit 6 the signature "John Walton" is in Walters's writing; the signature "J. New" is in a writing I do not know. On Exhibit 13 the signature opposite the words "I hereby acknowledge the receipt of the above-named sum" is in Walters's writing.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Turrell. I and other clerks have frequently signed Walton's name to documents. Walters never conceded his part in this matter.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-170" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES TAPLIN</persName> </hi>. From August, 1907, to the date of his arrest last February I was employed by Walton as a clerk at the Chichester Rents office. I knew about the New business. On July 9 I called at the Lower Kennington Lane office and saw Walters; he told me he had an appointment with Walton that morning for the purpose of receiving the New money from the post office. Some days afterwards I saw Walters and spoke about the New matter; he said, "I com
<lb/>pleted that matter with Mr. Walton; the money was received from the post office, and I handed the proceeds to Mr. Walton, and he paid money which he owed to a Mr. Martin Norris, which I learned for the first time was about £46, and also £27 or so to a Mr. Neal on account of moneys due to him; I received £5 for my services and Russell received £5." Later on I asked Russell, "Is it a fact that you went to a commissioner in Trinity Street and made a declaration?" he emphatically denied it, and also denied that he had received £5 from Walton; he said that at that time he and Walton were going about to race meetings together, and that if he had received a £5 note it would be in respect of some race.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Moore. I have known Russell many years; he is a respectable man. He has always denied that he made the declaration or signed the warrant. He made no secret of having received the money from the post office. Clerks in Walton's employ
<lb/>ment often signed his name to documents; assuming that Walters was authorised to go to the post office and collect the money, there would be nothing irregular in his signing Walton's name. Walton was not very much in the office.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-171" type="given" value="MARTIN"/>MARTIN NORRIS</persName> </hi>, 80, The Grove, Hammersmith. On May 22 I advanced £15 to Walton on the security of the book (Exhibit 1) (which was left with me), on another date £6, and on June 16 (in the presence of Russell) £10. On July 7 I went to the post office at West Kensington with Walton and Walters. Walton waited in a public house; Walters and I went into the office and I produced the</p>
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<p>book; I advanced to Walton a further £5. On July 9 I met Walton, Walters, and Russell in Newington Butts. Walters and I went to the post office, and Walters drew the money. We then joined Walton and Russell in a public house; Walters handed the money to Walton; Walton gave Walters a £5 note, and gave me £36 borrowed and £5 for interest, also £26 5s. to pay to Neill, which I did next day. (Witness identified some of the bank notes.)</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Turrell. On the morning of February 11 two plain clothes officers called on me and invited me to go to the General Post Office; I went, and was detained there for fourteen hours. Mr. Drummond, after cautioning me, asked me if I cared to make a statement, and I said "Yes." He put questions to me, and my statement was taken down in writing. No charge was made against me.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Moore. Walton did not give Russell £5 in my presence.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-172" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DRUMMOND</persName> </hi>, clerk in the Secretary's office, G. P. O. On February 16 I saw Walton in my office. He said he preferred not to make a statement, but he replied to a number of questions by me. I also saw Walters; I cautioned him and asked whether he cared to make a statement; he said "Yes." His statement was taken down, and he signed it. (Walters's statement was read; as to the events of July 7 and 9 it did not materially differ from Norris's evidence; Walters stated that he and Russell went to Edgley's office; and that there Russell, in answer to Edgley, said that he was J. New, and that the signature on the form was his; Walters declared that all that he did was under the instructions of Walton.) I also saw Russell and questioned him. He declined to make a statement, say
<lb/>ing that he knew nothing of the matter; he denied going to Edgley's office; he denied going to the Newington Butts post office, saying that he did not know that office; he denied being in the public house when Walters handed over this money to Walton. On my showing him the £5 note, with his name and address on the back, he stated that he got it from a bookmaker at Newmarket on the first day of the July Meeting. I showed him Exhibit 6, and he said that the signa
<lb/>ture, "J. New," was not in his writing. At 11,35 p.m. I gave the three prisoners into custody. I also took statements from Norris and Taplin.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Turrell. I did not, when Walton and Russell declined to make statements, proceed to cross-examine them. When they declined to answer a particular question I went on to another matter. These men were not "under arrest" when I took their statements; I consider they were perfectly free agents until I gave them into custody. We question many people who are never given into custody.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by Mr. Moore. Some weeks before February 16 an officer called at Russell's house; he was not at home, but the fallow
<lb/>ing day he called at the G. P. O. and stated that he had got the £5 note from a bookmaker at Newmarket, in payment of a bet. From</p>
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<p>first to last all he has said has been "I know nothing about the matter."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CALDICOTT</hi>. I received prisoners into custody about 11.35 p.m. on February 16.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALFRED WILTSHIRE</hi>. I charged the three prisoners on February 17; they made no reply.</p>
<p>This closed the case for the prosecution.</p>
<p>Mr. Moore submitted that there wag no evidence against Russell.</p>
<p>Mr. Muir. There is evidence that Russell was present on June 16, when Norris advanced £10 to Walters, that he was outside the Post Office when Norris and Walters obtained the money, and was present when Walters handed the money to Walton. He was also found in possession of a £5 note, part of the proceeds of the warrant. And it is for the Jury to say whether they can credit his denials given in answer to Drummond's questions.</p>
<p>Mr. Justice Pickford. Is there evidence that he knew the money was obtained fraudulently?</p>
<p>Mr. Muir. I submit that there is enough to go to the Jury. Then, a very important point arises here—namely, at what point must the Judge decide whether or no to let the case go to the Jury? In a case in this Court (not reported) Mr. Justice Wills at the close of the case for the prosecution asked prisoner's counsel whether he intended to call his client; counsel said he did; Mr. Justice Wills then refused to give a ruling until the whole of the evidence was before the Court.</p>
<p>Mr. Justice Pickford said the point was discussed in the Court of Criminal Appeal in R. v. Joiner (Cr. App. R. vol. 4, p. 64); the headnote in that case is, "If at the end of the case for the prosecution there is no case to go to the Jury, the Court, on a submission, ought to withdraw it from them."</p>
<p>Mr. Muir referred to two other cases before the Court of Criminal Appeal—R. v. George (Cr. App. R. vol. 1, p. 168; R. v. Leach (Cr. App. R. vol. 2, p. 72.)</p>
<p>Mr. Justice Pickford. I certainly should not ask counsel for a prisoner to say whether he is going to call his client before I ruled one way or the other; but it is a most important question whether, where you have several prisoners, you must decide with regard to the case of one before the whole case has been heard.</p>
<p>Mr. Muir. It came out incidentally this morning that it was intended to call one of the prisoners.</p>
<p>Mr. Moore. It is for the prosecution to prove their case; and if they cannot prove their case without something got out in cross-examination, that is no foundation for an argument against there being no case to go to the Jury.</p>
<p>Mr. Justice Pickford. I have a great deal of sympathy with that, but this is a point that it is most desirable to have settled once for all by the Court of Criminal Appeal. I am by no means clear that there is absolutely no evidence, but, without deciding that, I shall do what is analogous to the old practice—(allowing the case to go to the jury and then stating a case for the C. C. C. R.)—I shall not stop the case now; if I am wrong I can be put right by the Court of Criminal Appeal.</p>
<p>Mr. Moore. Then, my lord, I shall not call Russell.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-173" type="given" value="HARRY EDWARD"/>HARRY EDWARD WALTERS</persName> </hi> (prisoner, on oath). I am a solicitor's clerk, and was for eighteen months in Walton's employ. I was in charge of the Lower Kennington Lane office. In July, 1909, Walton spoke to me about the case of New. We obtained the necessary letters of administration. On Walton's instructions I attended at the post</p>
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<p>office with Norris to receive the money, and obtained the form Exhibit 6. I filled in the signature "J. Walton," as I was authorised to do; the signature "J. New "I did not fill in, and I do not know whose writing it is. I did not attend before Edgley and acknowledged that document; I never went to Edgley with Russell; I have been to Edgley occasionally to swear affidavits, but I never went to him with that document. After I had drew out the £246 on July 9 Russell, Norris and I went to a public-house and saw Walton; I handed him all the money; he gave me a banknote for £5 and gave Norris £67. Except that £5 I have never had a penny out of this transaction. The £5 was for office stationery and rates that I had paid. I heard nothing more of the matter until February 16, when about 7.30 p.m. Wiltshire and another officer called on me and asked me to go to the G.P.O. I had been out since seven in the morning; I had had nothing to eat, and a fair quantity of drink. We got to the G.P.O. about 8.15; after waiting an hour I was taken in to Drummond. He asked me what I knew about this matter and I told him the facts that I have just given in evidence. In the statement as taken by Drummond I appear to have said that I did go to Edgley's office; I now say that I did not go there; statements of Taplin and others were read to me by Drummond and I was asked generally whether they were true, and I suppose I answered generally, "Yes," and one of them contained this about my going to Edgley's office. When I signed the statement it was nearly midnight, I was tired and half asleep; at any rate, what I now say is the truth, that I did not go to Edgley's with this document.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. The only explanation I can give for telling Drummond what was untrue is that I was flurried and worried and tired, and I did not pay the attention I ought to have done.</p>
<p>At the close of Walters's evidence,</p>
<p>Mr. Justice Pickford, reverting to the case of Russell, said that there was nothing to show that he went to Edgley's except Walters's statement to Drum
<lb/>mond, and Walters had now sworn that what he then said was untrue. Even if the Jury disbelieved Walters's evidence, there would only remain the state
<lb/>ment, which was not made in Russell's presence.
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<p>(Friday, April 8.)</p>
<p>Mr. Justice Pickford summed up the case as it affected Walters.</p>
<p>Verdict (Walters)
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<p>Walters confessed to having been convicted of felony (embezzlement) at Lambeth Police Court on October 17, 1901.</p>
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<p>respected. Thinking to get more work, he was tempted to come to London, and lost £800 which he paid for a partnership.</p>
<p>The Rev.
<hi rend="smallCaps">EDWARD WILLIAM LEWIS</hi>, minister of King's Weigh House Chapel, a schoolfellow of Walton's, said that he and a group of gentlemen had made arrangements to provide Walton with a position when he was released from any sentence the Court might pass upon him.
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19100405-38-offence-1 t19100405-name-175"/>Robert Harold Staniforth</persName> of a certain infamous crime, with intent to extort money from him.</rs> </p>
<p>Mr. George Elliott, K. C., Mr. Curtis Bennett, and Mr. Duke prose
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<p>Mr. Elliott, K. C., said that prisoner's counsel had informed him that prisoner wished to withdraw the statements of which the prosecu
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<lb/>pared to say that there was not one word of truth in the statements, Mr. Staniforth would be willing to let the proceedings drop.</p>
<p>Mr. Turrell said that prisoner always persisted in denying that he had ever made any threat whatever. He wished to withdraw the statements and express his regret for having made them. Mr. Staniforth might rest assured that there would be no repetition of them.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t19100405-39-offence-1 t19100405-name-177"/>Mabel Richmond</persName>; second count, wounding with intent to do grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>Mr. Tully-Christie and Mr. Kent prosecuted.</p>
<p>Police-sergeant Robert
<hi rend="smallCaps">MCDONALD</hi>, C Division. On March 15, at 9.15 a.m., I was called to 46, Old Compton Street, where I, on the ground floor, found a woman bleeding from the head and neck. Prisoner came down from upstairs; when he saw the woman he said, "Let me kiss her before she goes." I arrested him, and handed him to another officer. I took the woman to the hospital and returned to the house; I there found on the bed, in the apartment which the woman had occupied, the poker produced.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-178" type="given" value="MABEL"/>MABEL RICHMOND</persName> </hi>. I knew prisoner for six years at Sunderland, where I lived with him. I came up to London last Easter twelve-month; prisoner followed me and we lived together for a little while. On Sunday, March 13, about 11 at night, he came to my flat</p>
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<lb/>man was making me an allowance. When I got back to my flat on the night of the 14th prisoner was waiting for me; he said he had nowhere to go, and I let him stay. At 7.30 in the morning he got up and dressed. He accused me of living with some one, and I denied it; he said, "Well, the first one that comes into this door I will strike him with the poker "; he had got a poker from the kitchen. He was very excited. A knock came at the door, and he said, "That's him"; he struck me with the poker and I screamed. I told him to open the door, it was only the caretaker. He then had a knife in his hand; he said he would stick it through the man who was coming in at the door. He threw me on the bed; and stuck the knife at the back of my neck. The caretaker was outside the door knocking and trying to burst it in. I do not remember much after that. Prisoner had never threatened me before. When I knew him in Sunderland he worked at some engineering works; I do not think he had had any regular employment in London.</p>
<p>Cross-examined by prisoner. I did tell you that, besides the man who was making me an allowance, there was another man I used to see. You were very excited and unsettled.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-179" type="given" value="HAROLD"/>HAROLD F. L. HUGO</persName> </hi>, house surgeon at Charing Cross Hospital, who attended prosecutrix on her admission, said that she had a scalp wound on the right side of the head, a stab in the neck and a bruise on the right shoulder; the injuries might have been caused with the poker and knife produced.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-180" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE BRAMWELL</persName> </hi>, caretaker at 46, Old Compton Street. Hearing prosecutrix's screams I went to her flat; the door was locked; as I was trying to force it open the prisoner opened it; I said, "What are you doing with the woman, you beast?" He said, "What is it to do with you? I mean to do for her." He appeared to have been drink
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<p>Prisoner. I never said that I meant to do for her.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS PEEL</hi>, 39 C Division. When I took charge of prisoner he said, "I have been away from her six months, and when I came back I found she had had another man there; I done it in the heat of the moment."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANCIS PEARCE</hi>, C Division. On March 15 I saw pri
<lb/>soner at the police station; he said he wished to tell me all about it; after I had cautioned him he made this statement, which I took down and he signed: "I went with her last night and asked her if she would come home to Sunderland with me; she said, 'No, I will see '; she afterwards said, 'I will never go back to Sunderland.' This morn
<lb/>ing, at nine o'clock, I again asked her to come back to Sunderland with me; she said, 'No, I won't go; I am going to meet George.' As I know George Robinson, and he would get her into trouble, as he has others, I lost my temper and struck her with a poker and a knife. It is all through Robinson this has happened. I have been a friend to him, and this is how he has treated me." I went to prosecutrix's</p>
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<p>flat and found the knife (produced) at the back of the stove; it was smeared with blood.</p>
<p>This concluding the case for the prosecution, prisoner handed in a written statement. After reading it, Mr. Justice Pickford recalled.</p>
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<interp inst="t19100405-name-181" type="given" value="MABEL"/>MABEL RICHMOND</persName> </hi> It is not true that on the morning of the 15th I told prisoner to get up as I was expecting someone coming. I was going out to meet another man with a woman friend of mine. Pri
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<p>Prisoner's statement was then read; its purport may be gathered from the questions put by the Court to prosecutrix. Prisoner declared that just as he was trying to persuade the woman to go back with him a knock came at the door, and he must have been mad. Murder was never in his mind: he loved the girl too much to hurt her. He picked up the knife to frighten her, and in the struggle caught her neck; he was truly sorry, and very pleased to see that she was all right again.</p>
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<p>Mr. Herman Cohen prosecuted.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN COLES</hi>, 800 N. On March 1 About 10.50 p.m. I was on duty with Police-constable Simpson in plain clothes in Wood-berry Down, Finsbury Park, a good residential neighbourhood, when I saw the prisoners stop, look at a house and walk on again together along Seven Sisters Road and into Amhurst Park, when Harwood entered the front garden of a house, the other two remaining on the footway. After a minute he rejoined the others and they walked on. All three then went into the front garden of No. 39, remained</p>
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<p>about four minutes, left hurriedly, crossed the road and went into the booking hall of Stamford Hill Railway Station, about 150 yards from No. 39. I followed them, went up to Harwood, and in the presence of the others said I was a police-officer and I should arrest them as being suspected persons. Harwood said, "All right." The others made no reply. A uniformed officer was there, who took Davis. Police-constable Simpson took Marsh and I Harwood. On the way to the station they went quietly for about 300 yards, when Davis became very violent, drew jemmy or case-opener (produced) from the front of his coat and attempted to use it upon the police-constable. I drew my truncheon, when Davis said, "All right, governor, I will come quiet," which he did. Harwood said, "If you use that stick I will stop you with something quicker than a stick." We procured further assistance and they were taken to the station. The jemmy was afterwards picked up in the roadway. A candle was afterwards also found near the scene of the struggle and brought to the station. Mr. Alabaster lives at 54, Amhurst Road, opposite to where the prisoners were seen. I searched Harwood and found a handkerchief and one woollen glove upon him.</p>
<p>Cross-examined. We were watching the prisoners from 10.50 to 11.40 p.m., at first at a distance of fifty yards. I could see it was the man whom I now know as Harwood who entered the garden in the first instance. Afterwards we were at a distance of a hundred yards. The distance I followed could be walked in, about twenty minutes. Harwood in threatening me was endeavouring to bluff me. I did not attempt to arrest the prisoners at first because I considered that there was not sufficient grounds. When I saw them all enter the second garden I arrested them as soon as I got the necessary assistance.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ALBERT SIMPSON</hi>,697 N, corroborated the last witness. All three prisoners struggled violently. I drew my truncheon, but it was not necessary to use it. The three prisoners were conveyed to Stoke Newington Police-station. I searched Marsh and found cigarette paper produced with writing upon it, "Mr. Alabaster, Amhurst Park, N."</p>
<p>Cross-examined. We were following about ninety to a hundred yards on the other side of the road. I could distinguish prisoners and know that it was Harwood who entered the garden. It took about half an hour going from Finsbury Park to Stamford Hill Railway Station. We were following about fifty minutes. All the prisoners struggled violently.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GEORGE PRIDE</hi>, N Division. On March 2 at 12.10 p.m. I found that Harwood was charged with possession of a housebreaking instrument by night and all prisoners as being suspected persons. I then directed that the charge should be altered accusing all three of possessing a housebreaking instrument. They were brought before a magistrate and after two remands were committed for trial.</p>
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