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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-1" type="given" value="JAMES DROVER"/>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</persName> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-2" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the court,</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-3" type="given" value="EDWARD T. E."/>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY</persName>, ESQ., Q.C.,</p>
<p>Law Booksellers and Publishers.</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, March 8th, 1897, and following days.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE</hi> the
<hi rend="smallCaps">RIGHT HON</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE FAUDEL PHILLIPS, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; the Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-4" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GRANTHAM</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's High Court; Sir
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-5" type="given" value="HENRY EDMUND"/>HENRY EDMUND KNIGHT</persName> </hi>, Knt., Sir
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-6" type="given" value="STUART"/>STUART KNILL</persName> </hi>, Bart., Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN VOCE MOORE</hi>, Knt.,
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-7" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN POUND</persName> </hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-8" type="given" value="WALTER VAUGHAN"/>WALTER VAUGHAN MORGAN</persName> </hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-9" type="given" value="JOHN WYATT"/>JOHN WYATT TRUSCOTT</persName> </hi>, Esq., and
<hi rend="smallCaps">FREDERICK PRATT ALLISTON</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">FORREST FULTON</hi>, Knt., Q.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">FOBERT MALCOLM KERR</hi>, Esq., Judge of the City of London Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol Delivery, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-10" type="given" value="JAMES THOMSON"/>JAMES THOMSON RITCHIE</persName> </hi>. Esq. Alderman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT HARGREAVES ROGERS</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WEBSTER GLYNES</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RICHARD CLARENCE HALSE</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PHILLIPS, MAYOR. FIFTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, March</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. C. F. GILL</hi>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-221-offence-1 t18970308-name-17"/>Edwin Kiles</persName>, and stealing two watches and other articles, and to a previous conviction of felony; other convictions were proved against him.</rs>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-223-offence-1 t18970308-name-21"/>Postmaster-General</persName> £118 4s. 5d. upon certain letters of ad
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. H. C. RICHARDS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SOPER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-22" type="given" value="ELIZABETH SOPHIA"/>ELIZABETH SOPHIA HOLDER</persName> </hi>. I am single, and live at 7, Pry's Build
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<p>aged seventy-five—we had lived together for twenty years—she had an account in the West London Savings Bank—shortly before her death she handed me this bank-book—after her death I went to live at the prisoner's house—this book and two others were stolen from my box—the prisoner's first wife was my late sister's step-daughter; she died in 1875—I gave information to the Post Office—I still work; the prisoner never kept me. (
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RICHARDS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">stated that the business and assets of the West London Savings Sank were transferred to the Post Office in</hi> 1888.)</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-23" type="given" value="GEORGE PHILLIP"/>GEORGE PHILLIP MORRIS</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Savings Bank Depart
<lb/>ment of the General Post Office—on February 8th, 1893, this book was brought to me, and this form "B" was filled up, and signed in my presence. (
<hi rend="italic">The answer to the question upon the form, "State your relationship to the deceased, and your age, and whether you claim the deposit as a nominee of the depositor" was "Widower," and the signature was "W. T. Moorlen</hi>, 64,
<hi rend="italic">White Lion Street, Clerkenwell.</hi>") The book was left with me—I do not recognise the man.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-24" type="given" value="HAZELTINE"/>HAZELTINE OWEN</persName> </hi>. I am a Commissioner of Oaths at the Principal Probate Register, Somerset House—I produced this affidavit "C" and oath "D," sworn by William Thomas Moorlen, and this administration bond "J"—in consequence of those documents, the letters of admin
<lb/>istration were granted on February 25th, 1893. (
<hi rend="italic">The docu
<lb/>ments were to the effect that William Thomas Moorlen, of</hi> 64,
<hi rend="italic">White Lion Street, Clerkenwell, was applying for letters of adminis tration of</hi> £118 14s. 5d,
<hi rend="italic">the sole property of his deceased wife, Mary Ann Moorlen, who died intestate; that that money was deposited in the Post Office Savings Bank; that he had only received information of it in December</hi>, 1892;
<hi rend="italic">and that he would administer her estate well and faithfully.</hi>)</p>
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<lb/>smith, and am a builder's foreman—about February, 1893, the prisoner said to me something to the effect that, in turning over the contents of an old box of his aunt's, he had found a bank-book belonging to his late wife—I went with him to Somerset House—I there saw him sign a document similar to this; I believe these others are in his writing—I signed one; this is my signature.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You worked for us sixteen or seventeen years as a joiner; I thought you a very respectable, hardworking, and trustworthy man.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-26" type="given" value="WILLIAM SAMUEL"/>WILLIAM SAMUEL BOND</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Savings Bank Depart
<lb/>ment, General Post Office—I produce a declaration book, which came to our department from the West London Savings Bank—on January 4th, 1864, when this account was opened, there appears a signature by a mark—on February 28th, 1893, I received these letters of administration, and consequently I authorised a warrant for the payment of money out, and closed the account.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-27" type="given" value="GEORGE JAMES"/>GEORGE JAMES FUGGLE</persName> </hi>. I am employed in the Post-office in Parliament Street now—in March, 1893, I was employed at the Northern District Post-office—on March 2nd this warrant was presented to me for payment—the receipt at the foot, "W. T. Moorlen," was signed in my presence, and I paid the person who brought it £118 4s. 5d.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-28" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD MACLONALD</persName> </hi>. I am employed in the Savings Bank Depart
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<p>of a complaint made by Miss Holder as to the loss of her book, I saw the prisoner at West Place, Chapel Street, Islington—I showed him the notice of withdrawal and the warrant for £118, and asked him if these were his signatures, "W. T. Moorlen"—he said, "Yes; but this is not what Miss Holder is inquiring about; this is all right; it is her own book that has been lost"—I said, "What does this refer to?"—he said, "Money from my aunt's account, which I am entitled to get out; I got letters of administration"—on January 21st, 1897, I saw the prisoner again at 8, Rising Hill Street, his present address—I cautioned him, and told him had come with reference to a complaint by Miss Holder that her sister's book had been stolen from her box, and I showed him again the notice of withdrawal and the warrant, and asked him if he cared to say how the book, which I showed him also, came into his possession, as Miss Holder said it was stolen from her—he said the money was his wife's money; that the account had been opened by his first wife, Mary Ann; that the account had been opened with money he had given to her for the purpose of opening the account; that he had lost sight of, or overlooked, the book for the twenty odd years his wife had been dead, but, in turning over her things in 1893, he found the book, and went and obtained letters of administration—I said the story differed from what he told me in May about it, when he said the money belonged to his aunt, and that Miss Holder said the book had been stolen from her box—he said then Mrs. Moorlen, his second wife, had taken the book as well as the other book, which we were referring to in the other case, and that he was pressed for money, and was tempted to do it, and he said he wished ns to be lenient with him, and asked us to report the matter to the Secre
<lb/>tary of the Post Office—I said I should have to report to the Secretary, and he said he hoped we would be lenient with him—I said if he wished to write anything; of that kind he could, and I might be instructed to place it before a Magistrate—he then wrote this letter, "J ": "Dear Sir,—As I was in want of money, I did use aunt's book, and now I must leave it to you to be as lenient as you can to me. Mrs. Moorlen took the book out of Miss Holder's box when she came to live at 63, White Lion Street, and I was tempted to do it"—he wrote that in my presence—I called in James Walker, who was outside, and said to Moorlen, "Do you wish this to be sent to the Secretary of the Post Office?"—he said he did—I said, "You know it will be produced before the Magistrate"—he said, "Yes"—Walker endorsed it on the back as it is here—on the say to the station the prisoner said that as he had had the money he must put up with it, he must suffer—he said he wished me to tell the Magistrate that his sister, Mrs. Anscombe, he thought, would be able to come forward and prove the money was his aunt's money, and that she had expressed the wish that he should have the money when she died—I have seen Mrs. Anscombe; she has not come here.</p>
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<lb/>General, by virtue of letters of administration, knowing that such letters had been obtained by a false oath and affidavit—he made no reply.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SYMMONS</hi>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-31" type="given" value="FLORENCE"/>FLORENCE VICARY</persName> </hi>. I am a housemaid in the service of Mrs. Sewell, of 11, Trebover Road, Earl's Court—the prisoner was employed there as cook—she and I occupied the same bedroom at the top of the house, but not the same bed; I occupied a bed with one of the other servants—about three on the morning of January 19th I heard a child's cry in our bedroom, from the direction of the prisoner's bed—I said, "Is that you, Bessie?"—she said, "Yes"—I remained awake till about six—I got up at 6.45—I heard no other sound resembling a child's cry after that—I noticed that the prisoner looked very ill in the morning—she got up, and left the room before I got up—after I heard the baby's cry the prisoner left the room for about ten minutes—that was in the middle of the night—I recognised the cry as that of a baby.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to find the prisoner</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-226-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-226-offence-1 t18970308-name-36"/>Harry Custance</persName> and others, and stealing cigars and other things.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-226-18970308 t18970308-226-punishment-9"/>Six Months' Hard Labour each</rs>.</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, March</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-227-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully having in his possession a mould for making half-crowns.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and the evidence was interpreted to the Prisoner.</hi> </p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-38" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-38" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP SHKLITZ</persName> </hi> (59
<hi rend="italic">NR</hi>). On February 6th I went by appointment to the Rupert Castle public-house, Christopher Court, Cavendish Square, and waited outside—I saw the prisoner, whom I had not seen previously—I said, in German, "Have you got that money?"—he said, in German, "Yes; 8s. for these; I can make them for £5 a day"—they were eight florins—this was outside the public-house—Inspector Bush came up, and said, in English, "Halloa! what is this? this is bad money; I am a police officer, and must take you to the station for having bad money in your possession"—he said, in German, "I am put away"—he was taken to the station, searched by the inspector, and two keys, a pair of spectacles, and a small purse found on him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I did not have a conversation with the prisoner about this affair—the appointment was made by the inspector.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-39" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BUSH</persName> </hi> (
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<p>Pomfret Castle, about one in the day, and saw the prisoner showing Shelitz these eight coins in this paper; he looked at them, and had them open in his hand—I said that I was a police officer, and should arrest him for having counterfeit coin in his possession—he said, in German, "I am put away"—I found on him a memorandum and a key—I went with Phillips to 34, Munster Square, and was shown to a third floor front room by Miss Mason, where I found this portmanteau—I opened it with a key found on the prisoner, and found in it two moulds for half-pastcrowns, four packets of white metal, three unfinished half-crowns, some emery paper, plaster of Paris, a file, a cardboard band, some glass, and a ladle, and on the mantelpiece two bottles of chemicals, and some powder in paper—there was metal on the file—Mr. Webster has seen them all—I took the portmanteau to the station, put it on the table, and the prisoner said, "That is mine"—I accompanied the prisoner and Phillips in a cab to the Police-court, and said, "I wonder what has become of the 2s. mould"—the prisoner replied in German—he made no answer to the charge at the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-40" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP SHELITZ</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). Bush said in the cab, "I wonder what has become of the 2s. mould?"—the prisoner said, "I broke it up, and threw it away."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I think you understand English enough to know what a mould is.</p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-41" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-41" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA MASON</persName> </hi>. I live with my mother, Mrs. Mary Mason, at 34, Munster Square—the prisoner lodged there, in the name of Schmidtz, from July till he was taken in custody—he paid 4s. a week—I went with the police to the room he occupied—he brought this portmanteau with him—another lodger came after him, who is still with us—I attended to the room, and once saw what I thought was a piece of lead off some tea, and threw it in the dust-bin.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I had conversations with the prisoner; he spoke English—he stayed in all the afternoon, and then went out—the other lodger was out all day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-42" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of Coin to H.M. Mint—I have examined two flawed moulds for half-crowns—this half-crown is from one of them, and is also flawed—these nine florins are all from the same mould—this file has white metal on it—this cardboard band is to enclose the plaster on the glass—those are all articles used in the manu
<lb/>facture of counterfeit coin.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am not aware that the chemicals were medicines for your chest.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-43" type="surname" value="ALBERT"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-43" type="given" value="JOHN DOYLE"/>JOHN DOYLE ALBERT</persName> </hi>. I was sworn as interpreter before the Magis
<lb/>trate, and took down the statements he made, and read them to him; he did not object to any word. (
<hi rend="italic">In this statement, and in hit written defence in German, the prisoner said that he received the coins and other articles from a man named Auguste, for safely as he was haunted by detectives.</hi>)</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-44" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BUSH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined by the Prisoner</hi>). I do not know Auguste; you were not standing next to him, but there was a man standing there—he was not the man I arranged to meet; I made no arrangement; my inspector arranged that I should meet you there—I did not see Auguste at the Court, or tell you that I was acquainted with him, and that he was a baker.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">COURT</hi>. I had somebody to follow the prisoner and point him out—the informant did not say we should find anything on him; he was simply to introduce us to Schreiber to visit him.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARTRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-46" type="given" value="SARAH ANN"/>SARAH ANN ROGERS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of George Rogers, who keeps a dairy at 123, Kentish Town Road—on February 2nd the prisoner came in for an ounce of butter, price 11/2d., and tendered a half-crown—I said, "It is very light," sounded it on the counter, and asked if he had any more—he said that that was all he had got—Cave came in to be served, and I kept him waiting (
<hi rend="italic">See next case</hi>)—Cave said, "What is the matter?"—I said, "I don't think this is a good half-crown"—he tried it, and said, "It is good"—a detective came in, and I told him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-47" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WALLIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant Y</hi>). On the night of February 2nd I was with Sergeant Pengelly in Kentish Town Road, and saw the pri
<lb/>soner with Cave in Mrs. Rogers' shop, and saw a coin pass—we entered, and I said, "We are police officers; is anything the matter?"—she said, "This young man has just given me this half-crown for some butter, and I don't think it is good"—Cave said, "I have done nothing; you can't search me"—I seized Bailes, and heard the jingle of money on the ground, and Pen-gelly picked up nine half-crowns—I took Bailes to the station, and told him he would be charged with being concerned with Cave in passing counterfeit coin—he made no reply, and gave a false address.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-48" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH PENGELLY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant Y</hi>). I went with Wallis to Mrs. Rogers' shop—Cave refused to be searched—I seized his right 'hand, he pulled it back, and I heard money fall on the floor—I picked up nine half-crowns and this piece of paper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-49" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of Coin to the Mint—these ten half-crowns are counterfeit, and all from the same mould—this paper is similar to that in which counterfeit coin is wrapped to prevent its rubbing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate</hi>: "I am very sorry I am here; it is my first time in trouble. He sent me into the shop for two ounces of butter. Cave dropped the money; I did not drop it all."</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-228-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">See next case.</hi>)</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18970308-229-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully having counterfeit coin in his possession, with intent to utter it.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-51" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN ROGERS</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">repeated her former evidence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I did not see you come in—I heard coins drop, but did not see you drop them—I said, "Have you got any more?"—he said, "No, that is all my mistress gave me"—you gave me the same coin back—a woman who had been there had gone when the coins were dropped.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-52" type="given" value="GEORGE WALLIS, JOSEPH"/>GEORGE WALLIS, JOSEPH PENGELLY</persName> </hi>,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">repeated their former evidence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner, in his defence, stated that he went into the shop and found Bailes and a woman there; that Mrs. Royers asked him to try a coin, which</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">he did, and found it good; that he then heard some money fall, and the officer came in; that he did not drop the coins, and would not have gone in there with nine bad half-crowns it he had sent Bailes, whom he did not know, in with one.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-229-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-229-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a conviction of a like offence at this Court on January</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1894.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-53" type="surname" value="COOK"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-53" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK COOK</persName> </hi>. I was present at this Court on June 20th, 1894, when the prisoner was convicted of having twenty-eight counterfeit coins in his possession, with intent to utter them, and previous to that he hadfive years' penal servitude twice; he has had thirteen years in prison.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-229-18970308 t18970308-229-punishment-11"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">Sentence on</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BAILES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18970308-229-punishment-12" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18970308-229-punishment-12" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-228-18970308 t18970308-229-punishment-12"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, March</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-230-offence-1 t18970308-name-55"/>Charles George Dick</persName>, and stealing his scarf pin, watch and chain, overcoat and 30s.; and </rs>
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<interp inst="t18970308-230-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="receiving"/> Receiving the same.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-57" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>MR. CHARLES MATHEWS</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended Marling.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-58" type="given" value="CHARLES GEORGE"/>CHARLES GEORGE DICK</persName> </hi>. I live in the St. George's Road—at 7.30 on Saturday evening, December 19th, I had occasion to go into a urinal op
<lb/>posite the Metropolitan District Railway Station at Victoria—I came out and went towards the Wilton Road, when I found I was being followed by a man dressed in a long dark overcoat and a
<hi rend="italic">pot</hi> felt hat—he followed me down Wilton Road; I told him not to follow—he came just behind me—I said, "Don't follow; what do you want?"—he said he wanted assistance; I said, "I shall not give you anything," and walked on, going towards and into the Belgrave Road—I noticed I was still followed by the same man; he told me then he wanted assistance, as he wanted to go to his sister's in the country, it being near Christmas time—I walked on, quickening my pace rather—I came from Belgrave Road into St. George's Square, and I crossed it on to the Thames Embankment—the man still followed me, and on the Embankment I turned and said, "I won't have this, And gave him 1s. "; he said, "This won't do," and seized me by the person—it caused a feeling of extreme pain and sickness—I was wearing a turquoise and diamond pin, a gun-metal watch, a gold chain, and I had a sovereign and a few shillings in my pocket—in order to get the shilling I gave him I had to undo my overcoat, which was lined throughout with astrachan, including the sleeves, and had astrachan cuffs and collar—while the man had me in that position he took my pin, my watch and chain, the sovereign and silver (all the money on me), from the trousers pocket from which I had taken the shilling and then he dragged the coat from my back—it is rather large for me, and slips off rather easily; the lining lends to its slipping off easily—the pain and sickness continued while these things were being taken—he held me by the left hand, and used his right for the purpose of robbing me—having got my property, he took to his heels—as soon as I recovered myself, I cried "Stop thief!" and ran after him—the assault and robbery took a very short time; it was very sudden—could not overtake him, and he got away—I went home—within half an</p>
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<p>hour of the occurrence on the 19th I went to Rochester Row Police-station, and gave a description of ray assailant—I was referred to the Gerald Road Police-station—an officer accompanied me from one station to the other—at Gerald Road I made my statement, and a full description, including such description as I could give of my assailant—immediately after that the case was placed in the hands of Inspector McCarthy—in a pocket of the coat I lost was a card-case containing one of my cards with my name and address on it—on December 24th a man called on me at my residence, and produced certain pawn-tickets, and my card-case and my card—in con
<lb/>sequence of what he said to me I saw the same man again outside Charing Cross-station later in the same day—I then received from him the pawn-tickets relating to my stolen property; he only showed them to me in the morning—I gave him £5—my property was much more valuable than that—on the following Monday I endeavoured to see Mr. Wallis, my solicitor, with the object of handing the duplicates to him, but he was away—I could not see him till Thursday, December 31st, when I saw him at his chambers, before he went to business in the morning—Inspec
<lb/>tor McCarthy was present at the interview between us—I had communi
<lb/>cated with him before that—on that day I handed over the duplicates to McCarthy—on January 10th I was taken to Gerald Road to see if I could identify Marling from among others, but I could not do so; I had never, to my knowledge, seen him before—I attended at Westminster Police-court, and gave evidence before Mr. De Rutzen against Marling in relation to my property—at that time Marling was charged alone—about February 11th I was required to see if I could identify Saunders at the same Police-station—he was then dressed in a short light coat and a cap—I failed to identify him—after that I attended at the Police-court, and gave evidence against Saunders, and on that occasion Robert Hine was in attendance, and Saunders was committed for trial.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Saunders.</hi> I did not see you at Victoria Station with anybody on the 19th—I did not ask you to have a drink—I did not have a drink with you—I did not ask you to do a little job for me—I did not have a conversation with you in a public-house outside Victoria Station; I did not ask you if you knew Mr. Gregory, an actor—you did not run across to the urinal, and I did not follow you—after leaving the urinal, I did not walk with you; you followed me—I did not ask you to take my arm; I did not tell you I lived in St. George's Road—I did not ask you to accompany me towards some bridge. (
<hi rend="italic">Saunders asked whether the prosecutor had made an indecent proposition to him; this the prosecutor denied.</hi>) You did not say, "Is that the job you want me for?I will lock you up if that is the job"—I did not give you all the things, so that you should not lock me up, and wait till you got eighty yards away before I halloaed out, "Stop thief!"—you seized me by the trousers.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I was asked at the Police-court whether I was exposed, and whether I had given him the things.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>. I was outside Victoria Station; I went on to the Embankment, and the man followed—the Magistrate asked me how my coat could be taken off my back against my will—if I crossed my arms, it could not have been taken off; I did not cross my arms—the man called on the 24th in the ordinary way, and rang the</p>
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<p>bell, and was shown up by a servant—he gave no name—I did not send and tell the police he was in the house, because I wanted my property back, and I did not want to make a bother—I am staying with friends—I told them of the outrage on the 19th—I did not tell the police I had appointed to meet a man concerned in the robbery—I wanted to get the things back, and the man said I should not get them back unless I bought the tickets—I went there alone—I was living in St. George's Road on December 19th—I went on to the Embankment because I wanted to shake the man off, and I did not want him to see where I lived—I had come from Hyde Park Corner by omnibus, and had got out near Victoria Station—I did not say any
<lb/>thing about Victoria Station to the Magistrate—I walked alone to my address, because I did not want a beggar to know my address, or to be followed—I did not see a constable—it is about a quarter of a mile from the urinal to St. George's Square—this was 7.30 p.m.—I passed a good many persons—the man said, "Can you help me?" and I refused, and I next told him not to follow me—he suddenly said, "This won't do," and took my pin out—he was then holding me with one hand, and taking my pin out with the other—I did not, the first day before the Magistrate, say anything about how he held me, because I did not think it necessary—only Marling was charged then—I said I was held tightly—I told the Magistrate how he held me on the second occasion—Saunders was there then—I had not identified him, and I do not identify him now—I struggled as hard as I could when he held me—I did not strike him—the watch-chain was broken in the struggle—I called out loud, "Help! help!"—all the time this was being done no one came—he took my pin, and put it in his pocket, I think, and then took my watch and chain, and then my coat—he said, "It is no good struggling"—he still held me when he took my coat; he whipped it off—I only gave him 1s.—I went straight to the Police-station, and saw an inspector.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> On January 11th evidence was given against Marling alone—Saunders was not arrested till a month later—before I gave evidence against Saunders Hines was examined—I described in detail what occurred on the Embankment—I did not consult a doctor after
<lb/>wards; it was not necessary.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-59" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT HINE</persName> </hi>. I live at 16, Lyons Place, Maid a Vale—Saunders married my sister—on the afternoon of December 19th I was at my sister's; I live there—I saw Saunders that afternoon; he asked me go out with him about half-past six in theevening; I did so—we went down to the Edgware Road and across the park to Victoria Station—there Saunders said to me, "If I speak to anyone, you follow me"—I saw Saunders come out of a urinal; he and the prosecutor came out together—Saunders went towards the Standard Music Hall, opposite the District Station—Mr. Dick'" went in the same direction; he followed Saunders; they stopped against the District Station for about five minutes, in conversation, and then walked on together along the main road, and then turned to the right—I followed, on the other side—they turned to the right again, still together; they then turned to the left; I don't know the names of the streets—they went up the turning till they got to the top, and then turned to the left, and then took the next turning to the right, and went to the top of that, which took them into Belgrave Road, and went down</p>
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<p>Belgrave Road towards St. George's Square, still together, and in con
<lb/>versation—they went through St. George's Square, and when they got to the bottom I lost sight of them for about two or three minutes—I then saw them again, on the left-hand side of old Pimlico Pier, right down to the wall against the water, on the Embankment—I was then about fifty yards from them—I heard some
<lb/>one call out, and then saw one man running after another—before that they remained against the pier for half an hour—I was on the opposite side, waiting—then I saw them running; I think Saunders was first: he was running away, and Mr. Dick was running after him, halloaing out "Stop thief!" two or three times; after he had got sixty or seventy yards—it attracted the attention of a number of people, and they followed in pursuit—I followed, and kept Saunders in sight, till I lost sight of him for about ten minutes, when I saw him again against a cab rank at the end of St. George's Square; that was, as near as I could think, about 800 yards from old Pimlico Pier—Saunders then said to me, "Put that coat on"; he had an overcoat on his arm, a kind of melton cloth, lined with astrachan—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the coat—he then said, "Jump into a cab, or else we shall get
<hi rend="italic">pinched</hi>" and drove to the end of the Marble Arch, at the end of Park Lane—in the cab he showed me this gun-metal watch and chain, and a sovereign and six shillings—we then went to the New Inn public-house, in the Edgware Road, and then went on to 16, Lyons Place—we left these things there; that was where Saunders lived—we then went away together, and remained out till an early hour next morning; we went to some place of amusement, and re
<lb/>turned to Lyons Place, and were there on the Sunday—on Monday morn
<lb/>ing I went out with Saunders—I was wearing this coat—I went to 57, Castle Street, Oxford Street, and there saw Marling; he lives there—I knew him before—I had seen him in Saunders' company—I there took off the coat, and Saunders produced the jewellery, and asked Marling to do this stuff in for him, meaning to pawn it—Marling asked where he got it; I can hardly recollect now what Saunders said; I could not say whether he said from an old gentleman, or an old
<hi rend="italic">toff</hi>—Marling said he could not do it then; he would have to come back at one o'clock—we went away, and came back about one—Marling did not ask for any further explana
<lb/>tion—when he came back I was still wearing the coat, and Saunders had the jewels—between two and three we went together in an omnibus to Victoria, and went into a public-house near Sutton's, the pawnbrokers—Marling left the public-house with the watch and chain—Saunders and I left the public-house five or ten minutes after, and met Marling coming from Sutton's; he had not then got the watch and chain with him—we went into another public-house, the Windsor Castle, and Marling there handed to Saunders some money and some pawn-tickets—I then took off the coat and gave it to Marling, and he took it away, and returned in a short time, and gave Saunders a pawn-ticket and 35s., and Saunders gave him 8s. for what he had done; Marling then left—Saunders and I did not go home; he bought me a pair of boots, and on another day an over
<lb/>coat I was not a witness against Marling before the Magistrate on the first examination—I gave a statement to the police when they asked me for it; I cannot tell you what that was; I never took any notice of that; I gave it to Mr. Whitlock, and it was taken down at the Police-station—I</p>
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<p>was then called before the Magistrate—since then I have seen relatives of Saunders—I am still living at Lyons Place.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Saunders.</hi> When you came home from work on the Saturday you gave me 1s., and told me to go down the road with you—you went into the Shakespeare with a working man, and then went over to the station—you said you had given that man drink to the amount of 10s., and that would bring you in lots of work—when I saw you with Mr. Dick he was rather close to you sometimes; I could not say whether he was getting hold of your arm—you passed five or six policemen before you got to the Embankment—I was about fifty yards off when you and the prosecutor were by the pier—I could not see from where I stood what happened, it was so dark down there—I heard no scuffle or cries—I cannot remember if you said to me before we got into the cab, "The gentleman gave me the things"—I did not hear you give any explanation of how you got them; I did not ask you—you did not say what the gentleman wanted you to do—I never asked what you were doing for half an hour by the pier with the gentleman—if you told me, I did not hear you.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>. Saunders did not say why I was to follow him if he spoke to a gentleman, and I did so—I have never done it before—I first gave a statement to Whitlock—I heard a little of Mr. Dick's evidence at the Police-court; I did not take much notice of it—I heard him say that Saunders followed him from somewhere near Victoria Station to the Embankment; they were together all the way going along—they did not seem to be jangling; I could not hear anything; I was too far away—they appeared to be talking—I took my eyes off them for two or three minutes, and when I saw them again they were in the left-hand corner of the old Pimlico Pier, on the Embankment—I stood watching on the pavement at the side of the Embankment, on the other side of the road—they must have stood there for about half an hour—I heard no cry or call during that time—a policeman was near—they were in the dark; I could not see what was going on—I did not hear Saunders say to Marling, "These things were given to me by an old
<hi rend="italic">toff</hi>"—he said something to the effect that he got them off an old
<hi rend="italic">toff</hi>—I did not see how much Marling gave Saunders for the pin, watch and chain, but he gave him 8s. for the coat.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I daresay the prosecutor and Saunders could see the policeman near the Embankment, because he was rather under the lamp—he was not in a position to see them—he was at the corner of St. George's Square, about fifty yards from them—I was five or six yards from him—Saunders asked Marling to do the stuff in for him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-60" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BARRELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Inspector A</hi>). I was in charge of Rochester Row Police-station on December 19th, when Mr. Dick came there about 8.30 p.m.—I sent Sparrow with him in a cab to Gerald Road Police-station—I am sure of the date—I made no note in the occurrence book, because he was sent on to Gerald Road.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">AR</hi>). I accompanied Mr. Dick to the Gerald Road Police-station on December 19th; we arrived there about 8.40, I should say.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>. I was only asked yesterday to attend here to-day; I did not give evidence at the Police-court—I remember the 19th, because it was the last Saturday before Christmas.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Inspector B</hi>). I was in charge of the Gerald Road Police-station on December 19th—the prosecutor came there with Sparrow about 8.40 p.m.—I took these particulars down in this book—they are to the effect that there were stolen, at about eight p.m. on the 19th, from the person of William Dick a black overcoat lined with astrachan, a gun-metal watch, part of a gold chain, and a scarf pin—not a word was said about his having been attacked and seized and held while he was being robbed—the only charge taken was that of larceny from the person—if I had been told what the prosecutor has said here to-day I should have entered it as a charge of highway robbery with violence.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant B</hi>). On the evening of December 19th I was at the Gerald Road Police-station immediately after the prosecutor had been there—next day I called on the prosecutor, and he made a statement as to what had occurred on the night of the 19th. (
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MATHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">proposed to ask what the statement was.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COMMON SERJEANT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">ruled that it was not admissible.</hi>) The cane was placed in the hands of Inspector McCarthy.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>. I have not given a proof to any
<lb/>body—I have not been spoken to since the adjournment.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-64" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN McCARTHY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Inspector B</hi>). On Sunday morning, December 20th, I went to the prisoner's house, and he made a statement to me as to the circumstances of the robbery—on December 31st I went to Mr. Wallis's private chambers, and saw the prosecutor and Mr. Wallis—three pawn-tickets were handed to me—I went to Mr. Sutton, a pawnbroker, of 156, Victoria Street, and saw Mr. Lawler—on Sunday night, January 10th, I Arrested Marling at the New Inn, Edgware Road—I told him I was a police inspector, and that I was going to arrest him on a charge of robbery with violence on Mr. Dick on December 19th—he said, "I don't know what you refer to; I don't know Mr. Dick; can I see him?"—I took him to Gerald Road Station in a cab, and he was detained till the next morning, when the prosecutor came—Marling was placed among others; the prosecutor failed to identify him—after that Lawler was called in, and identified him immediately—when the charge was read to him he said, "It is all right; I never assaulted him; he has not identified me; I can account for how I got the property"—on the next day, going across the yard to the Police-court, he said, "The charge is enough to hang one; I own pledging the goods, but I deny having stolen them"—on two of these duplicates is the address of the pledger as 16, Warwick Square, and on a third it is 10, Warwick Square—I have made inquiries at both ad
<lb/>dresses—at the Police-court, in reply to the Magistrate, Marling said, "I got the things from a man named 'Little George near Victoria Station"—he said, "Little George" had asked him to pledge these things, and all he had got out of them was a drink of whisky and soda, or something of that sort—he was committed to this Court for trial at the last Sessions—about February 10th, having received information, I arrested Saunders after calling him out of the billiard-room of the Devonshire Arms, Denman Street—I said to him outside, "You knowme, Saunders?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "I am going to take you into custody for committing a highway robbery on a gentleman named Mr. Dick on December 19th last"—he said, "I know nothing about it"—he was taken in a cab to Gerald Row, and placed with others—when Mr. Dick did not identify him he</p>
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<p>muttered, "Well, he has not identified me"—Mr. Willis appeared for the prosecutor—Hine was called before the prosecutor.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Saunders.</hi> You came up to the billiard-room while I was there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>. I had no communication from Mr. Dick between the 20th and 28th, I believe, about what had happened on the 24th or 25th—when I told Marling the charge he seemed astonished, and said he did not know what it meant.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. A constable is always on point duty forty-five to sixty yards from the pier on the Embankment—I should think he could hear if anyone called out—it is a place much frequented at night by young men and women up to eleven o'clock.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-65" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER LAWLER</persName> </hi>. I am an assistant to Mr. Button, a pawnbroker, of 156, Victoria Street—on December 21st Marling brought me a pin, a gold albert chain, and a fur-lined overcoat, all at the same time—I advanced him £4 on the jewellery; he did not pledge the overcoat at that time, as I would not give him what he wanted, £5—I made out these two duplicates in the name of Marling, 16, Warwick Square—he had been in the habit of pledging jewellery with me before; he had redeemed and pledged the same things again—he came on December 21st a second time, between twelve and one, about ten minutes after his first visit, and then pledged the overcoat for £1 15s.—another assistant wrote out the ticket in the name of Marling, 10, Warwick Square.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>. I have known him as a customer for three or four years.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-66" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE HAM</persName> </hi>. I am the landlady of 57, Castle Street, Oxford Street—Marling has lodged with me since April 6th, 1896, in the name of Goff—he is single—I showed Whitlock the room.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABINGER</hi>. Mine is a well-conducted house.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-67" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN McCARTHY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I went with Whitlock to 57, Castle Street, and in Mailing's room I found twenty-eight pawn-tickets in different names and addresses, mostly relating to such property as men carry with them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Saunders, in his defence, stated that the prosecutor came up and spoke to him, and asked him to have a drink, and that he afterwards gave him the things</hi>:</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SAUNDERS</hi>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-230-18970308 t18970308-230-punishment-13"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude each</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-231-18970308 t18970308-231-punishment-15"/>The prisoner was released on his Recognizances, and with an intimation that if he produced sureties at the next Session he would be discharged upon Recognizances.</rs> </hi>)</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, March</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-232-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="insane"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-232-offence-1 t18970308-name-73"/>Claud Ernest Turvey</persName>, with intent to steal; Johnson having been convicted at Marl-borough Street, on December 13th, 1892</rs>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-232-18970308 t18970308-232-punishment-16"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour each</rs>.</hi> And</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant A</hi>). On February 10th I followed the prisoner in Vauxhall Bridge Road, carrying this bag; I told him I was a police officer, and should take him in custody, and asked what he had in the bag—he said, "Some spirits"—I said, "What spirits?"—he said, "Some whisky"—I found two pint bottles—he said he bought it at a public-house, which he did not know the name of—I told him I had followed him the morning before; he made no reply—I went to his lodg
<lb/>ings, and found this flask, three empty flasks, and a quantity of knives, forks and plates (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-78" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. I have been head cellarman to Moore and Co. twenty-two years—the prisoner was engaged last Christmas as an extra hand in the cellars—I have only given him a little whisky in a wine-glass—these bottles belong to my employer; I identify this whisky—(
<hi rend="italic">Tasting it</hi>)—it is over proof, and was not on sale; it came out of our large vats.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate</hi>: "Every drop of that whisky was given to me by John Williams, the head cellarman; instead of drinking it drop by drop I saved it."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>: Every day John Williams, the head cellarman, gave me a little whisky, and on Saturday a larger quantity, and, instead of drinking it, I saved it day by day and week by week, till I had the quantity I am charged with stealing, and I was removing it, as I was changing my lodgings, owing to their being unfit for habitation. The things found were not in my lodgings at the time of my arrest; they must have been put there. Could they have searched my room, and not seen them at first?</p>
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<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MOORE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-80" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES MOORE</persName> </hi>. I am managing director of B. A. Moore and Son, Limited—I engaged the prisoner at Christmas, and he remained till his arrest—in addition to his salary, he had his meals, and used the knives, forks, and plates—I identify these articles; they have our name on them; I never gave any of them to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> You did your work properly and honestly, as far as I know.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-81" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN POLLARD</persName> </hi> (
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not see them before, because I did not open the cupboard door, as I had not to look for knives and forks.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">J. WILLIAMS</hi>. I identify this champagne knife—I asked the prisoner several times about it, and he said that he had not seen it—I never gave him any of these plates, knives, or forks.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>; These things were not there when they searched the room; they have been put there since. It is quite possible John Williams put them there; there are several keys in the house which open my door.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-235-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been convicted at this Court on January</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1892.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not give evidence against you at the Police-court, because I was not called—you have also had three months on another charge.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>†.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. OLDFIELD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-85" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MCARTHUR</persName> </hi> (
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<hi rend="italic">jemmy;</hi> I handed it to the station sergeant.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Ridler gave his address as in Clarendon Street;. I went there, and found he was not living there, but he was living in the same street—Burrell was by my side, and had the same opportunity of seeing them as I had—both their backs were turned towards us—we were fifteen or twenty yards behind them when they started down Harrow Road—I was about thirty yards behind them when they turned into Sutherland Avenue; the Mews is on the right, and they had got half-way through the Mews before we got to the corner—we got sight of them when they turned into Amberley Road—I did not say before the Magistrate, "This man spoke to me first."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective X</hi>). I was in Maryland's Road with Me Arthur on January 30th, and saw the prisoners go to the private door of 306, Harrow Road—they waited some time, and we fell back in</p>
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<hi rend="italic">jemmy</hi>—I asked him what it meant—he said, "I know nothing about it."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I always take a prisoner back if he wants it—I do so if he wants to see his wife—I did so once before, because I was going right past the door—the prisoners turned five turnings while we were after them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Two of those five turnings were before we got to the shop in Sutherland Avenue—I found a small dent on the door, and another near the lock; the
<hi rend="italic">jemmy</hi> corresponded with them.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SHEPHERD</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ABRAHAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended Greenwood.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-91" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN TOZER</persName> </hi>. I am foreman to Messrs. Sheffield and Co., builders, who are rebuilding the Lea Tavern—Shepherd and Simpson were working for me in October—on October 8th Simpson asked me whether I had anything else to take back in the cart—I said, "I did think of sending the lead cuttings, but I cannot find them"—I gave them in custody—the lead has never been found—I do not know Greenwood.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-92" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT RAVELL</persName> </hi>. I am watchman to Messrs. Sheffield and Co.—on the evening of February 6th I was watching outside the Lea Tavern, and saw Shepherd go up the lane, and come back with Greenwood—they went to Simpson's house, called him out, and brought a barrow out, and a bag of lead, and all three went away together—I met them on the road, and said, "Mr. Simpson, you have got your full cargo," and he ran away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Simpson.</hi> I saw you bring the bag of lead out, and put it on the barrow.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. I followed the barrow some distance—Simpson was just behind; Shepherd was drawing the barrow, and Green
<lb/>wood was by his side.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-93" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-93" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-93" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL LEE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman.</hi>) On February 8th, shortly after seven o'clock, I went to the Lea Tavern, and saw Simpson—I told him there had been some lead stolen, and he had been seen wheeling a barrow—he said, "I and Shepherd went and got the lead; we shoved it into, my passage. Shepherd and I went and fetched Greenwood. Greenwood arranged to buy it of Shepherd. He went and fetched a barrow. I put the lead in it, and Shepherd wheeled it round to Greenwood's house. Greenwood took it inside his house, and gave Shepherd half a crown. He gave me 1s. 2d., my share. The lead was in two bags; we shot it into a big one."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-94" type="surname" value="SHEPHERD"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-94" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD SHEPHERD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">the Prisoner</hi>). I was in the employ of Messrs. Sheffield—on February 6th I was working at the Lea Tavern—I and Simpson were together; we carried the lead off the building, and took it to Simpson's house, and left it there three or four hours, and then went to Greenwood, who lives in Chapman Road; and Greenwood and I went back to Simpson's; we all went in—I fetched a barrow, and Simpson took the lead to Greenwood's house—Greenwood stood there, and gave me 2s. 6d.; I paid 2d. for the hire of the barrow, and divided the rest.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Lee took me into custody; I said nothing, but I said at the station that I was connected with it—Simpson and I were charged together, but I said nothing—I was asked at the Police-station if I desired to say anything—I said, "No, sir"—I have not been talking to Lee since I have been committed—I asked him yesterday afternoon if I could make a statement—he said, "Are you going to plead guilty?"—I said, "Yes"—he had asked me nothing; I thought my making a statement would help me—this was outside the Court—he did not take my statement then; he took it yesterday evening, after the Court had adjourned; he came to my house.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-95" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-95" type="surname" value="KEMP"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-95" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM KEMP</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). On the evening of February 8th I went to Greenwood's house, 9, Chapman Road, but did not find him; I found him at 4, Oxley Buildings, and woke him up at two a.m.—I said that I was a police officer, and should take him in custody for stealing a quantity of lead cuttings—he said, "All right, governor; I know what you want; I will come quiet if you will let me alone; I know nothing at all about it; if I buy anything, I must put up with it; there is no climbing
<hi rend="italic">golden stairs</hi> for me now; I am over fifty years"—at the station Lee took down Simpson's statement, and Greenwood said, "I hear what he says; I know nothing about it"—I afterwards went to Greenwood's house, and found several boxes of india-rubber balls—he requested me to see his wife—she said, "We bought them straight enough, and have got the receipt upstairs"—going to the station, Green
<lb/>wood said, "I bought them on the stones"—that is, the Caledonian Cattle Market, everything is sold there—if he bought them six months before, I should expect him to know the person he bought them of—I searched Greenwood's house, but found no lead—I then went on to the other house, and found him in bed, and his wife endeavour
<lb/>ing to conceal the balls in his absence, about nine o'clock—I brought him back to Chapman Road—he said, "I can't help what she does"—it is seven or eight minutes' walk from Roll Road to Chap
<lb/>man Road, and about the same distance to the station.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-96" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-96" type="surname" value="RILEY"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-96" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES RILEY</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Robert White and Co., of 78, Houndsditch—these india-rubber balls are their property; I missed them about three weeks ago—we have sold a lot, but, on examining our boxes, we missed ninety-five boxes; that is ninety-five dozen—I do not know Greenwood.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We sell great quantities wholesale only.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SIMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GREENWOOD</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-237-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SIMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction at Dalston on April</hi> 22
<hi rend="italic">nd</hi>, 1890.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SIMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GREENWOOD</hi>*†—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-237-18970308 t18970308-237-punishment-22"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SHEPHERD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, March</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Grantham.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">For the Cases tried this day, tee Surrey Cases.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, March</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MOORE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Jones, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Quinn.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. I was going by the midnight train; I was paid off at three o'clock the day before, and I went on board the ship, and stopped all night, and went to Gower Street by railway—I got there about 9.30—I had a mate with me in the afternoon for two hours, but he had left me; he was not in the public-house where Jones was—I went into one or two public-houses in the afternoon—I had three pints of beer—the bag of money was in my coat breast-pocket—he got the bag, and after I gripped him by the wrist the money dropped on the ground—it all took place very quickly—there were a few people in the street; I ran after the man, about two dozen yards, calling "Police"—I believe there was a third man there—my mate had been paid off, too; he lives in Cumberland too, but not in the same district—I do not Know whether he was" going to Cumberland.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I heard Quinn say to Jones, "God blind me! take off your jacket, and get away"—they were both together.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. Before they ran I picked up £5, but people commenced to gather round the gold on the pavement; I then ran after the two thieves, and the police found me holding them where I had</p>
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<p>stopped them—that was not 200 yards from the fried fish shop—I do not recollect an inspector saying that I was drunk—I saw Quinn picking up the gold.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When I was picking up the money I had a good oppor
<lb/>tunity of seeing their faces—I ran about twelve yards after them; I mean twelve paces—I seized the prisoners twelve paces from where I was robbed—I was robbed twelve paces from the fish-shop.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-101" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR AINGER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 43). On February 23rd I was attracted by shouts in George Street, Hampstead Road, and saw the prosecutor struggling with Jones, who said he had been robbed of his money by two men; he was only holding one man—I took Jones; he had no coat on; his coat was lying in the road—on the way to the station he commenced making a statement; I cautioned him—he said, "I know he had gold and silver on him, but I have not robbed him"—at the station he said, "I picked up two half-sovereigns, and handed them to the prosecutor."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. Two lads came to the station and picked out two other men—the lad who served in the shop gave a descrip
<lb/>tion of two persons; they were brought to the station, and the boy picked out somebody else.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I found Wilson, with a crowd of men round him, struggling with Jones, and when I was moving with Jones away from the crowd I saw Quinn standing in the crowd—Wilson did not say to me, "Take that man, too"; he said that to another constable in my hearing—Williams was with me; he handed Quinn to a third constable, who is not here, and followed behind—Wilson did not say at the station that Quinn had tried to rescue Jones, but he said that he had hit him about the head while he was holding Jones—Wilson was not drunk.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. One of the prisoners said that Wilson was drunk, and the inspector said that he might have been drinking—he was able to give an intelligent account of what had happened—I saw his shin; a piece the size of a 5s. piece was kicked off; a drunken man could not have pointed it out like he did.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-102" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. (146
<hi rend="italic">S</hi>). On February 23rd I heard cries of "Police!" in George Strwet, and saw Wilson and the two prisoners, and several people round him. I went up with another constable, and saw Wilson hold
<lb/>ing on to Jones, who told me to take him in custody for robbing him—I did so—Quinn was standing by, and Wilson said, "There is another one," and I took hold of Quinn; he looked at Wilson, and said that he had made a mistake—I handed him over to another constable, as Wilson said that there was a third party, and I was looking for him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. That was thirty or forty yards down the street—George Street is a good way from Euston Station; it runs from Gower Street to the Hampstead Road.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I searched Quinn at the station, and found on him eightpence, of which twopence was in bronze—Wilson was perfectly sober—he gave an intelligible account of the injuries he had received, and showed his knee and ankle.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">A. AINGER</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). Jones refused to give his name and address; he gave the name of Jones at the Police-court, but no address; I know</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-238-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-238-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Quinn then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction at the Thames Police-court, in the name of James Donovan, on February</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1896;
<hi rend="italic">he had also been four times convicted of assaulting the police.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JONES</hi>†—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-238-18970308 t18970308-238-punishment-24"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">QUINN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-238-18970308 t18970308-238-punishment-25"/>Six Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS NORTON</hi> (32)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-239-offence-1 t18970308-name-104"/>Charles Hamilton</persName> eight dozen shirts and a wooden case, with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-105" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HAMILTON</persName> </hi>. I am a carman in the employ of McNamara and Co., Limited, of Cox Street, Finsbury—the prisoner used to drive the van when I was van-boy—on January 28th, about 12.50, I was going up a court, and he was coming out—he said, "Hurry; it is dinner time; take your sheet to the warehouse"—I did so—he was not in the employ then—he told me he was employed by the firm—I took one which I had de
<lb/>livered wrong, in my hand—I left him with a case, and said, "Where is my sheet?"—he said, "I have got your sheet"—I thought it was all right—I never saw him afterwards—he has signed the sheet, "Nicholls"—I am sure he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I</hi> did not know then you were at work there—when you met me you had my load in your hand—I had forgotten your name; I did not leave you to go to Hanson Street—you gave me twopence, beer money, and said, "I will sign your sheet"—you lifted the case on the trolly, and went away with it—I did not ask you to meet me in a public-house at nine o'clock that night; that is not true; nothing of the kind took place.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-106" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD REYNOLDS</persName> </hi>. I am a greengrocer, of 24, Finsbury Market—on January 25th, between three and four p.m., the prisoner came to me with a trolly, and a large box on it—I let him have a barrow, and he left the trolly—he said he could not get the case into the office at Shoreditch—he did not bring the barrow back, but it was brought back in pieces a fortnight ago.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You said that the carman told you to tie it with a rope.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-107" type="given" value="GEORGE HENRY"/>GEORGE HENRY BEAMANT</persName> </hi>. I am dispatch manager to Dent, Allcroft and Co., of Wood Street—on January 25th five cases of shirts were de
<lb/>livered there from McNamara's; we expected six—we missed one contain
<lb/>ing eight dozen shirts—I did not sign the delivery sheet.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-108" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DOWSE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Sergeant.</hi>) On February 11th the prisoner was brought to Moor Lane Station—I said, "Your name is Norton?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "You will be detained for stealing a box out of Messrs. McNamara's van"—he said nothing; he was placed with others, and identified by Reynolds, and the carman identified him afterwards—he said he should plead guilty.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You said to the gaoler, "If I get this over I will plead guilty to-morrow"—I said, "That is not a matter for me"—I gave you a paper.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-109" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM THICKERS</persName> </hi> (119
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<p>we are going to charge you with stealing a box and a truck, from Wood Street on January 28th"—he said, "I know nothing about it."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. I</hi> should not have stopped you if you had not run away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>: The case was as high as this, and I had to come right through the City.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">He then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction at the Mansion House on May</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1895;
<hi rend="italic">and eight summary convictions were proved against him.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">DAVID ASHMORE</hi> (19)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">DOUGLAS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended the female prisoners.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Inspector S</hi>). I arrested all the prisoners—I obtained a warrant, and on January 28th, with other officers, searched 59, Great Peter Street, Westminster, a wardrobe shop—I saw the female prisoners there, and enumerated the articles missing—the elder prisoner said that she had none of them—the robbery was three weeks before this—after the search Emma brought down some forks, and said she did not know whether Maud had bought them—I saw two brushes; she said that she had had one of them in her possession two years—there is a name on it, either of the maker or the owner—the female prisoners were not charged at Hampstead with the male prisoners—I remember Ashmore signing a statement; Morris spoke at the time—the other prisoners were not present.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The elder female prisoner is the proprietor of the wardrobe shop; she has also a stall in Horseferry Road, close to a public-house—I did not find any of the goods exposed there—Mr. Haines is the publican.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-118" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant S</hi>). I examined the premises with Inspector Rowe—I went on June 28th to this shop in Great Peter Street, and saw the two female prisoners—I accompanied Maud to the first floor, and found three knives and a spoon, and under the mattress four knives and two spoons—she said she bought them of a man with a barrow a week ago—I said, "How much?"—she said, "Threepence for the knives, and threepence for the spoons"—I said, "Did not you think them cheap?"—she said, "No; I often buy things that way in the Lane"—I said, "What Lane?"—she said, "Petticoat Lane"—Mr. Gotto has identified these knives and forks—I drew her attention to the crest, a griffin, which is on all the spoons—she said that she did not notice it—Maud lifted the mattress before I offered to do it—she said that the place was not safe, and that was why she put them there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The door was open; there was no lock to it—there</p>
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<p>were knives, plates, cups, and saucers on the table, and then I found these spoons—the house is let out in lodgings—she said she gave sixpence for the brush—I went away, leaving both prisoners, and went again next day, and apprehended them both—I went to Mr. Prentice's, and found twelve knives and two dozen forks—the knives had no crest—I found at Hayes, the publican's twelve knives and four spoons—the property stolen amounted to about £400.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-119" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PRENTICE</persName> </hi>. I bought some knives and forks on a Saturday of the female prisoners, for 6s.—I bought them for brass—I did not notice the crest.—I sent a little boy round to see if she had any small ones, and I bought half a dozen small knives for two shillings, and the prisoner Maud brought another dozen knives and forks, which I identify.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The woman keeps a stall near my shop—I did not see them on her stall—she came and asked me if I wanted them—I thought the griffin was a trade-mark.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-120" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HAINES</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler, of 152, Horseferry Road—on January 16th I bought a job lot, a dozen knives, of the prisoner Emma, in the bar, for 14s. or 14s. 6d.—they had no crest on them.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). I went to Horseferry Road with the inspector on February 9th, and obtained these knives.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> February 8th was the first day I went to Mr. Haines or Mr. Prentice.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-122" type="given" value="PETER"/>PETER GOTTO</persName> </hi>. I live at West Heath House, Child's Hill—on February 7th or 8th my house was broken into, and the property here is part of what was stolen from my premises—they are metal-plated, and bear my crest—the knives are worth 3s. 6d. or 4s. each; they are Rogers' best, and the forks came from Rogers'—the others are worth 2s. or 2s. 6d.—some of them have only been used once or twice, and some not at all—this is a list of the articles stolen.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">EMMA HUGLESTONE</hi>
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<interp inst="t18970308-241-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">EMMA HUGLE
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def5-241-18970308 t18970308-241-punishment-28"/>to enter into her own Recognizances</rs> to come up for judgment if called upon
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def5-241-18970308 t18970308-241-punishment-29"/>Judgment Respited</rs>, and admitted to bail, being near her confinement.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MORRIS</hi>*—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-241-18970308 t18970308-241-punishment-30"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ASHMORE</hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-241-18970308 t18970308-241-punishment-31"/>Fifteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">DOUGLAS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-241-18970308 t18970308-241-punishment-32"/>Nine Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, March</hi> 11
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Grantham.</hi> </p>
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<p>would not go home, for he had had a few words with his wife, and if he did not stop with me he would go somewhere else—I said he might stay—the two men sat down by the side of the fire; then Collins asked me to go and get a pint and a-half of ale and a quartern of rum—when I brought it they were talking about work—they are labourers' scaffolders—Curley gave me money to get another quartern of rum and another pint of ale—that was about 3.35—when I returned, Curley said he would go to bed—when he had had his drop of drink I showed him into the bed room occu
<lb/>pied by Collins—Curley had a fall, but got up all right, and got into bed—he did not hurt himself—Curley said, "Go and get Dick something to eat; he has not broken his fast to-day"—Collins was in the room—when Curley was sitting in the front room he dropped asleep, and I got tea ready—he asked me to go out and get him something for tea—I said to Collins, "Will you take this piece into Curley?"—he said, "No, eat it yourself"—it was bacon—I said, "No, I will take it into Curley, and a cup of tea"—he said, "I will take the tea in"—he said, "Here, old boy, this is the best cup of tea you have had this week"—he gave the tea to Curley—Collins went to bed then, and after Curley had drunk his tea he asked me if I would fetch him another quartern of rum and a pint of ale—that was about six p.m.—when Collins went to bed I went into the other room—about nine p.m. I heard a knocking at the wall for me to come, and Collins asked me to fetch him half an ounce of tobacco—I heard him say, "You have done me for three quid"—I said, "You see what, you gave me; one bright penny, and one black one"—Collins said, "Go and get my tobacco, will you?"—I was away about five minutes—I went into the bedroom to take the tobacco, and saw Curley lying behind the door—he was bleeding very fast from the left side of his head—he was in his night-shirt, and the bed-clothes were laid across his legs—Collins was standing up in the bedroom in his night-shirt—I said to Curley, "Do get dressed, and go down to the hospital"—Collins then threw a jug at him—it bad been standing on the drawers—he was about two yards from Curley—the jug "catched" Curley over the left eye—it broke in pieces—Curley said, "Dick, do you mean to do for me quite?"—Collins said, "Once you gave me a black eye, and now you have got one; if I do not live with my wife I have the same respect as if I did"—I tried to get Curley dressed to get him to the hospital—wheh the jug was thrown he was in a sitting position behind the door—I helped to dress him—Collins said, "Have you had enough?"—Curley said, "Be a man, Dick; if you had wanted anything, why do not you come out, and have it out?"—Collins hit him again in the eye with his fist—I got Curley downstairs as soon as I could—a policeman was there—I did not see them fighting—when the policeman came Collins said, "He had no right to take liberties with an old woman"—he remained upstairs—the policeman went upstairs with Curley—Curley said to me, "Did I take any liberties with you?"—I said, "No"—that is true—the chamber was there all right when I went for the tobacco—when I came back it was broken in several pieces—on Sunday morning I searched Collins' bed—I found three half-sovereigns and a sovereign wrapped up in a piece of paper betwixt the bed and the mattress, about half-way down the bed.</p>
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<p>abscess was found on his brain at the
<hi rend="italic">post-mortem</hi> examination—he had not complained to me of pain upon his brain—I said before the Magis
<lb/>trate, "As he was going into the room he fell down; he was not quite sober"—he had been in bed then—I do not know what got him out of bed; I was not there—Collins was not very drunk, for Clare Market; he could stand easily—he had been in about five hours when it happened—I do not know that he had spent 16s. in public-houses.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-127" type="given" value="LOUIS"/>LOUIS KIBBARD</persName> </hi> (206
<hi rend="italic">E</hi>). I was in the vicinity of Clare Market when I was called to No. 3, Clare Court—I saw Collins in the back room on the second floor—I had met the deceased at the front entrance—he was covered with blood; it was running from wounds in the head—he followed me upstairs and said, "That is the man that has done it, and I will charge him"—Collins said, "It serves you b——well right; you had no right to take liberties with a woman"—shortly afterwards Police Constable 73
<hi rend="italic">ER</hi> arrived, and the deceased was advised to go to the hospital—before going he said to Mrs. Leach, "Did I ever attempt to take liberties with you?"—she replied, "No"—then Curley and the other constable left for the hospital—I said to the prisoner, "You must come with me to the Bow Street Police-station"—he said, "I shan't b——well go with you," and struck me on the left side of the face with his fist—I struggled with him, and threw him across the bed in the room—I had to threaten him with my truncheon—he then said he would go quietly—he then went quietly—I took him to Bow Street Police-station—when Curley came from the hospital he charged him—the prisoner said, "It serves you b——well right; I have owed you this for years"—after the charge was taken I went back to the house, and got permission of Mrs. Leach to go into the room, where I found the broken jug and chamber (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>,) stained with blood—the blood is on the bottom of the chamber—I could not say whether Curley was drunk, he was so much cut about—Collins was not very drunk—Curley could walk.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-128" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES ELLIS</persName> </hi> (42
<hi rend="italic">ER</hi>). About 9.30 p.m. I was called to No. 3, Clare Court—I went upstairs, and saw the prisoner with Curley and Mrs. Leach—Curley was cut about the head and face, and covered with blood—I heard the conversation about taking liberties with the woman—I took Curley to King's College Hospital, where he was attended by the house surgeon, and the wounds stitched.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-129" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOPKINS</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at the Central London Sick Asylum, Cleveland Street, West, where patients are received from the workhouse, the deceased was sent there from the hospital on February 15th—I examined him, and found wounds on the head—he was dazed, and during the time I examined him he had a fit—the wounds had been stitched up—he had been in the Bell Yard Infirmary two nights—the fits continued to occur for three days—they were convulsive—they were symptoms of injury to the brain—the fits ceased, and he continued to im
<lb/>prove till the 27th, when symptoms of pressure on the brain showed them
<lb/>selves, and he died at 1.10 the following morning—I made a
<hi rend="italic">post-mortem</hi> examination—ontheboneof the skull was a linear indentation on the posterior part of the top, running to about half an inch—on opening the head and the outer membrane that cover the brain, I found beneath it about a small teacupful of blood pressing upon the brain, partly clotted and partly fluid, and firmly adherent to the outer membrane—the firm adhesion</p>
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<p>points to the fact that hemorrhage had taken place some days before death, and the fluid possibly later hemorrhage—the cause of death was pressure of blood on the brain—in my opinion the effusion of blood was caused by injuries received—I have heard the evidence—the injuries described might cause it—they might have caused the indentation, which I should say occurred at the time the wound was inflicted on the back of the head—there was no abscess on the brain—the fits were caused by the effusion of blood on the brain, in my opinion.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The fits did not recur—the asylum is a general hospital, and not a lunatic asylum—it is a public institution, supported by the rates—the wounds on the top of the head and on the face had been stitched—there was no obvious injury to the brain—the membrane of the brain was not injured—the blood clot was caused by blood escaping from blood vessels—I discovered no broken blood vessels—the skull not being injured, the force would be transmitted inwards—if the skull had been broken the sharp edges might have cut the blood vessels—the skull not being broken, the injury might be found on the opposite side of the brain—in my opinion, the force was transmitted from the curved hard surface to the softer surface below—the deceased said he was thirty-three years of age, and he looked about that—a drunken man might fall with sufficient heaviness to cause the condition of the skull I found—I could not account for the injuries apart from some violence—there was no suggestion of apoplectic condition in this patient—I said at the Police-court that "the clot of blood was due to some violence, but I will distinctly say that it was due to the violence which caused the indentation," I made an addition to that—I have not examined the earthenware—the blood on the bottom of the chamber might have come from contact with the floor—there is just a faint trace of blood there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. This asylum has been established about twenty-five years—every parish in the metropolis has a similar institution—they are sometimes called infirmaries—there was nothing internally to suggest disease; I looked for it—the clot may have blocked the opening of the blood vessel for a time, and then something may have re-started the bleeding, but the
<hi rend="italic">causa causans</hi> of it must have been violence.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I did not see the chamber thrown—I thought it had been thrown, because it was lying close to the deceased.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-242-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday and Thursday, March</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th and</hi> 11
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1897.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerry Esq.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-243-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. HORACE AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BIRON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-134" type="surname" value="DOVE"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-134" type="given" value="AUGUSTUS"/>AUGUSTUS DOVE</persName> </hi>, M.D. I practise at Crouch End—I have been in at
<lb/>tendance on Claude Harrison for some weeks—he is suffering from bronchitis and congestion of the lungs—it would be dangerous to his health for him to come here as a witness.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-135" type="surname" value="CLEAVER"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-135" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE CLEAVER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Chew, an auctioneer and surveyor, at his branch office, Maryland Point, Stratford—he is an agent for the North British and Mercantile Fire Office—in October, 1896, the female prisoner came to see about effecting an assurance—she represented herself as the wife of Frederick Hurst—I afterwards found out she had gone by the name of Barnes—she said she wanted to insure the goods in her house, 61, St. Mary's Road, Plaistow, against fire—I showed her this proposal form—I filled it up, she giving me the necessary instructions, and signing it for Frederick Hurst—she paid 3s. as a deposit for the premium—I asked her whether she was the wife of Frederick Hurst; she said she was, and I wrote under her name "wife"—after she had left I recollected that the questions on the back of the proposal form had not been answered—amongst them were questions as to whether any claim had been made before, or whether they were insured in any other office—I sent a postcard to 61, St. Mary's Road—on November 2nd the female prisoner called again, and I filled up the answers on the back of the proposal form from the answers she gave—I think at the Police-court she said she was not the male prisoner's wife, and that she had not said so.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-136" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-136" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-136" type="surname" value="BUCKINGHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-136" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BUCKINGHAM</persName> </hi>. I am a surveyor, in the office of Brown, Roberts and Co., of the Poultry—upon instructions from the North British and Mercantile Insurance Office, I called at 61, St. Mary's Road, Plaistow, on December 17th, 1896, to investigate a claim for loss by fire—I saw the female prisoner, and asked her if Mr. Hurst lived there—she said, "Yes, I am Mrs. Hurst"—I said that I represented the North British and Mercantile Insurance Company, and had come with reference to the claim for loss by fire—I asked her how it occurred—she said she was going to the railway station to see some friends off who had been visiting her, and the tire occurred in a cupboard in the first floor front bedroom, and was caused by a spark from a match she had used to get something from the cupboard—I asked what her husband was, and if he was at home—she said he was employed as a store-keeper on an Atlantic liner, and that he had gone to town on the business of the Cunard Company—I handed her this form to be filled up—I asked if she or her husband had had any previous experience in making claims for losses by fire, or had had any previous fires, and she said, "No"—I asked to see the cupboard, and she showed it to me in the front room, first floor—I examined it—it appeared clean—there was evidence of some damage of fire at some time, but, in my opinion, it did not look aa if there had been a recent fire there—on the following day she called at our office, bringing with her this form, filled up as it now appears—it contains several articles of wearing apparel, described as having been destroyed or damaged by fire, beginning with a diagonal frock-coat, which cost £2 5s., and is claimed as worth £1 10s.—the total claimed is £17 19s., and it is signed "Frederick Hurst"—while she was in the office on the 18th, Mr. Collette, who is one of the surveyors in the office, was there—he spoke to</p>
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<p>me, and, in consequence, I asked her again if she or her husband had had a fire before, or had made any claim on any insurance company for loss or damage by tire—she said, "No"—I asked if she knew there had been a fire in that house before—she said, "No"—I asked how long they had lived at St. Mary's Road—she said, "A few months"—Tasked her where she had previously resided—she said, "Somewhere in Kingsland"—I asked for the name of the street or road—she said she could not remember; she thought it was North Street—I said, "I happen to know the neigh
<lb/>bourhood of Kingsland; there is no such street as North Street there; I shall be glad to know the precise address," and requested her to furnish it to me—then Mr. Collette took the matter up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When I called on you you did not gay that Mr. Hurst Barnes lived there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-137" type="surname" value="JOHNSTONE"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-137" type="given" value="JOHN MICHAEL"/>JOHN MICHAEL JOHNSTONE</persName> </hi>. I am the English Fire Superintendent in the office of the North British and Mercantile Company—this is the policy under which the claim is made, dated November 24th, 1896—a claim was made, and the matter was investigated, and a report was made on the matter, and afterwards the matter was placed in the solicitors' hands to report to the committee.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-138" type="surname" value="COLLETTE"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-138" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD COLLETTE</persName> </hi>. I am a surveyor in the office of Brown, Roberta and Co., of 7, Poultry—about September 17th, 1896, I received in
<lb/>structions to investigate a claim made against the North British and Mercantile Company by people named Hunt, at 61, St. Mary's Road, Plaistow—I was at the office one morning when the female prisoner came there to see Mr. Buckingham—directly I saw her I recognised her as a woman I had seen in connection with a claim made in June, 1896, against the Imperial Insurance Company, for which we were then acting—I told Mr. Buckingham I recognised her—after that I went to 61, St. Mary's Road, Plaistow—the female prisoner opened the door to me—the man came from a back room—I asked them to show me where the fire occurred, and she took me up to the room, and showed me the same cupboard in which the previous fire had occurred—I asked to see the clothing which was the subject of the claim—I was taken downstairs, and some things were brought to me from a back wash-house—I immediately identified among them a pair of troupers which had previously been paid for by the Imperial Office—I told the prisoner that I was quite certain they were the same, and they were positive they had never had a previous fire, or made a previous claim—I said I was confident about it, and the best thing they could do would be to admit the fact, and I should want the North British policy—after some consideration the male prisoner advised the female prisoner to get the policy, and admitted that what I said was correct, that they had had a previous claim—the policy was then given to me, and I brought it away; it is the one produced by Mr. Johnstone—afterwards I drew up a report, which was submitted to the company—I had been to the same house, and seen the same cupboard, in June—the claim then was made in the name of Barnes—I saw both prisoners—they said that fire was caused by a lighted candle igniting. the clothing in the cupboard—this is the original claim made against the Imperial Fire Office, filled up by the male prisoner—I witnessed the signature—the sum claimed was £17 7s.—they accepted payment of £12 10s.—this is the receipt, signed</p>
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<p>"Frank Barnes," in the same writing as the signature to the claim which I witnessed—the cheque for £12 10s. is endorsed in the same writing, I should say—I should think the signature, "Fredk. Hurst," to this second claim against the North British Company is in the same writing—the description of the articles claimed for in both fires is identical, but the prices differ; a diagonal frock-coat appears in both cases.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You pressed me on both occasions to have some re
<lb/>freshment—I recognise you.</p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-139" type="surname" value="CRADDOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-139" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CRADDOCK</persName> </hi>. I am agent to the Imperial Insurance Com
<lb/>pany—in March, 1896, the female prisoner came to effect an insurance—she said she did not know how to go to work about it—this proposal form was filled up as it now appears—she gave the name of Frank Barnes as her husband's name, 61, St. Mary's Road, Plaistow—I subsequently handed her, at that address, the policy for £160 in the Imperial Insur
<lb/>ance Office, and she paid the premium—when the claim was made on June 27th, 1896, I handed the cheque in settlement to the female prisoner, I believe; the male prisoner signed the receipt.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-140" type="surname" value="HILL"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-140" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HILL</persName> </hi>. I live at 98, Douglas Road, Plaistow, and am agent to the London and Lancashire Fire Insurance Company, of King William Street—on December 1st, 1893, the female prisoner came about effecting an insurance in the name of Frank Lyons, her husband—she gave the address, 509, Barking Road, Plaistow—I asked whether he was already insured, and if they had had any fire before—she said, "No" to both questions—she wanted to insure for £150—she paid 3s., and left the balance till the policy was produced—I filled up the proposal form from directions she gave me—I forwarded it on to the office, and obtained the policy, and took it to 509, Barking Road, a week or fortnight afterwards—I saw the female prisoner, and she paid me the balance of 4d.—after
<lb/>wards a change of address to 61, St. Mary's Road, was endorsed on the policy on August 31st, 1895.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-141" type="surname" value="PANTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-141" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR PANTIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Inspector, City</hi>). I was present at the Mansion House during the investigation of this case—I saw Harrison called, and heard him give evidence in the prisoners' presence, who both had opportunity of cross-examining him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The deposition of</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLAUDE HARRISON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">was read as follows:—</hi>" I am an architect and surveyor, assistant to my father, 103, Cannon Street. In February, 1894, my father was instructed by the London and Lancashire Fire Insurance Company to investigate a claim with respect of a fire alleged to have taken place at 509, Barking Road, Plaistow. I attended at those premises to investigate the claim. This is the claim (J) sent me by the office, filled up as it now appears. I saw a man and a woman there, but at this distance of time I cannot recognise the prisoners. I had a conversation with the persons I saw, and examined the cupboard in the first floor room, where the fire was alleged to have taken place. There was the appearance of a fire having taken place there. After my conversation, I agreed to settle the claim, and pay £17 in settlement, and the male person I saw there signed this paper (K). The statement made to me by one or other of them (both being present) was that they were both going out, and previous to doing so the man went to the cupboard with a lighted pipe in his mouth, and he presumed a spark from it must have fallen un
<lb/>observed on to some clothing.—
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLAUDE HARRISON</hi>."</p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-142" type="surname" value="COLLETTE"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-142" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD COLLETTE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The signatures to this claim and agreement (J and K) are, to the best of my belief, in the male prisoner's writing. (
<hi rend="italic">The claim was for an alleged fire in February</hi>, 1894,
<hi rend="italic">at</hi> 509,
<hi rend="italic">Barking Road, caused by ashes from a tobacco pipe falling on clothes in a cupboard; and stated that Frank Barnes, the claimant, had no other in
<lb/>surance in any other office, and had not made a claim before; and the inven
<lb/>tory of goods for which the claim was made was the same as before, be
<lb/>ginning with the diagonal frock-coal, and amounted, to</hi> £22.
<hi rend="italic">By the agree
<lb/>ment, Frank Barnes agreed to accept</hi> £17
<hi rend="italic">in full settlement, and declared the policy was the only one effected on the goods.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-143" type="surname" value="FROST"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-143" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN FROST</persName> </hi>. I am a surveyor, of 74, King William Street, the office of the London and Lancashire Fire Office—this (L) is a cheque for £17, dated February 22nd, 1894, and drawn by the London and Lancashire Fire Insurance Company, and payable to and endorsed "F. Barnes"—this (M) is the receipt, signed "Frank Barnes"—in October, 1895, I went to 61, St. Mary's Road, Plaistow, taking this claim (O) to investigate a fire alleged to have taken place there—I saw the prisoners—I asked about the fire; the male prisoner, in the presence of the female, told me his wife had occasion to get some article of wearing apparel from the cupboard in the first floor front room, and they supposed the head of a lighted match must have fallen off, and fired some of the articles in the cupboard—I looked at the cupboard—I saw some of the articles that had been burnt—I asked the male prisoner what business he followed, and he said he was a ship's store-keeper—I asked him on what line or company, and he said the Glen Line—I asked him the name of the vessel—he told me a name which I had seen a day or two previous as at a foreign port, and I told that to Bui, and he said, "Oh, yes"; I am staying off this voyage—afterwards the claim was settled for £8, by this cheque—it is endorsed "Frank Barnes"—this receipt for it is signed "Frank Barnes"—this is the policy (N)—it was cancelled.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. I</hi> cannot remember you; I dealt with the male prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-144" type="surname" value="SELLAR"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-144" type="given" value="FRANK RUSSELL"/>FRANK RUSSELL SELLAR</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the surveying department of the Liverpool, London and Globe Insurance Company—on April 14th, 1896, I attended at 61, St. Mary's Road, Plaistow, to investigate a claim made on our office by Frank Barnes, taking with me this claim, which had been sent to the office, amounting to £13 17s.—I saw both prisoners—the claim alleged the fire to have taken place through a lighted match—there is an inventory of goods destroyed and damaged—we agreed ulti
<lb/>mately to settle the claim for £10—the male prisoner signed this agree
<lb/>ment, which declares that the policy is the only one in force—this is the policy under which the claim was made; it was taken out in March, 1894; the goods were then at 509, Barking Road—the removal of the goods to 61, St. Mary's Road was sanctioned by endorsement on the policy—the premium for this policy had been paid in 1896, and was in force till Lady-day of that year.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-145" type="surname" value="WAYLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-145" type="given" value="SIDNEY ERNEST"/>SIDNEY ERNEST WAYLAND</persName> </hi>. I am agent to the Liverpool, London and Globe Insurance Company, of 380, High Street, Stratford—on March 16th, 1894, a proposal was made to effect an insurance by the female prisoner, and I filled up this form by her instructions, and forwarded it to the head office in March, 1894—in May, 1896, she called again</p>
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<p>concerning a claim which she had on the office, and as to which a cheque was mislaid or delayed.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-146" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-146" type="surname" value="KEWLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-146" type="given" value="RIGBY"/>RIGBY KEWLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Liverpool, London and Globe Insurance Company—on July 9th, 1894, I went to 509, Barking Road to investigate a fire which it was suggested had occurred there—the claim for £21 1s. alleged the fire was in a cupboard in the first floor front rooty—I saw both prisoners, I believe—we ultimately agreed by this agreement to settle the claim for £18—Frank Barnes signed it in my presence—this is the company's cheque, endorsed by Frank Barnes, and this is the receipt signed by him—those signatures appear to be in the same writing as the signature to the agreement to settle—this is another cheque for £10, dated January 2nd, 1896, paid in connection with a second fire on the same premises—it is payable to and endorsed "F. Barnes"—the endorsement I should take to be in the same writing as the other signatures.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-147" type="surname" value="ROBERTS"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-147" type="given" value="GEORGE HEBDON"/>GEORGE HEBDON ROBERTS</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer and surveyor—on August 29th, 1893, I attended at 509, Barking Road, Plaistow, on behalf of the Westminster Fire Office, to investigate a claim that had been made on them for loss by fire—I took with me the claim and the list of articles alleged to be damaged—I saw both prisoners—the man said, in the woman's presence, that he had occasion to go to a cupboard in which his wife's clothes were kept, and he was smoking at the time, and he supposed a spark must have fallen from his pipe, as shortly after the things were found to be on fire—the amount claimed was £22 3s. for men's and women's wearing apparel, beginning with a diagonal frock-coat—I was shown burnt remnants of the articles—we agreed to settle for £20, and Frank Barnes signed the agreement to accept that—on September 19th, 1895, I went to 61, St. Mary's Road, to investigate Another claim on the same office, taking with me this claim, made under the same policy, and this list of articles—I saw the prisoners—the woman said she went to the cupboard to get a wrap before going to see friends off at the station, and used two matches, and shut the cupboard-door, and on her return, about two hours afterwards, she found the fire had taken place; the house was full of smoke, and the things were burnt—I saw the cup
<lb/>board then, and I had the prisoners at my office a day or two afterwards, and told them I thought the prices were too much, and drew their attention to the previous fire, and, after discussion, I offered them £10 instead of £16, which was what they claimed—it was a similar cupboard, but not in the same house, and I remarked upon it—we paid the £10; this is the document agreeing to accept it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-148" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-148" type="given" value="ALFRED RICHARD"/>ALFRED RICHARD JONES</persName> </hi>. I am employed in the Royal Assurance Company as an assessor—on December 20th, 1894, this claim for £21 18s. was made against that office in respect of men's and women's clothing, beginning with a diagonal frock-coat, said to be damaged by fire caused by lighted tobacco from a pipe—the claim was signed by Richard Barnes—no payment was made in respect of that claim—I was sent to investi
<lb/>gate the claim, and reported against it—no action was brought—when the policy became renewable it was declined.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-149" type="surname" value="RAWLINGS"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-149" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM RAWLINGS</persName> </hi>. I am assistant secretary to the Kent Fire Office—in 1893 I was acting as assessor to that office—on December 8th, 1893, I went to 509, Barking Road, to investigate a claim for a loss by fire—I</p>
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<p>saw a man and a woman; I recognise the prisoner as the woman—they said a tiro had occurred, through, it was supposed, the accidental dropping of a light—this was the claim, amounting £23 11s., and the list of articles beginning with the diagonal frock-coat—I saw the cupboard—there were slight smoke-stains on the skirting—I could not tell if they were recent—the circumstances were so suspicious I asked them to account for the fire—they said they believed it had been caused by a light accidentally dropped—that did not satisfy me—I told them I did not believe there had been any
<hi rend="italic">bona fide</hi> fire, and ultimately they accepted £4 10s. in settle
<lb/>ment—the policy was cancelled.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. It would be impossible for insurance companies to send each other a list of small insurances.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-150" type="surname" value="GIBBS"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-150" type="given" value="CHARLES HENRY"/>CHARLES HENRY GIBBS</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Pirie and Gibbs, surveyors, of Cornhill—I went to 509, Barking Road, on July 12th, 1892, to investigate a claim of £17 14s. for articles of clothing in respect of the County Fire Office—I saw the female prisoner, I believe—she said she had gone out for a walk about nine o'clock, and, returning an hour afterwards, found the room upstairs filled with smoke—before going out she had gone to a cupboard with a light, and that probably caused a fire—after some discussion the matter was settled for £14—the policy, I believe, was not renewed.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-151" type="surname" value="HOLTEN"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-151" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL HOLTEN</persName> </hi>. I live at St. Mary's Road, Plaistow, and am agent for No. 61—in August, 1895, the prisoners took No. 61, on a weekly tenancy, in the names of Frank Barnes and sister—I saw them frequently in the house from then to the end of last year—I never heard of them being man and wife—under the agreement the landlord had to do all repairs—he was never called on to do any repairs to the cupboard in the first floor bedroom—I never heard of a fire taking place there—we called weekly to collect the rent.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-152" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-152" type="surname" value="WISE"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-152" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE WISE</persName> </hi>. I live at 509, Barking Road—the prisoners lodged there as Frank and Miss Barnes, brother and sister—they came about 1892, and left two years ago—when they first came the man was away at sea for a short time—when he was at home he did nothing that I know of—two years before they left me, nearly four years ago, at Christmas time, they had a fire, when I was out—I was shown a cupboard, which was scorched and burnt, and burnt clothes—they said it was caused by a lighted pipe in a coat-pocket, and they had put it out—that was the only fire I heard of on the premises.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-153" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-153" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am Superintendent of the West Ham Fire Brigade—I have been there sixteen years—I keep a record of all the calls received—from the beginning of 1889 to the end of last year, I never heard of any fire at 509, Barking Road, or 61, St. Mary's Road, both of which are ia my district.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-154" type="surname" value="PANTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-154" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR PANTIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Inspector, City; Re-examined</hi>). On January 26th I went to 7, Serinit Road—I saw the prisoners, and told them I had a warrant for their arrest for attempted fraud; I read it—the woman said, "Cannot you spare him? he is so ill that this disgrace will kill him"—I allowed him to write some letters, and noticed he was Anting on a North British form, and I called his attention to it—he said, "It is the North British that is pressing this; cannot you take me and leave her here? she knows nothing about it"—I took them to the station—next</p>
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<p>day, on searching the premises, I found in the front bedroom a port-manteau and a canvas bag, containing articles of clothing damaged by fire—I afterwards showed the clothes to the prisoners—the woman said, "I kept them to make up again, if they did not take them away"—as to some of the articles of ladies' dress, she said, "They are only rags; they have not been put in any claim"—in the condition in which the clothes were, they could not have been made up again.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You said, "The best have been put in the port-manteau."</p>
<hi rend="italic">The female prisoner, in her defence, asked the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to punish her if they pleased, but to spare her brother.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-243-18970308 t18970308-243-punishment-35"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-157" type="given" value="AUSTEN"/>MR. AUSTEN METCALFE</persName> </hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROOTH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended Delachi.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. HORACE AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROOTH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KAPADIA</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-160" type="given" value="TOM"/>TOM FORD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Inspector N</hi>). At 7.30 on January 30th, I was stationed at Stoke Newington, when the prisoner came in and said, "My name is I Stanley Foxhall Fitch; I want to give myself up for conspiring with Dod, Coles, and Wilson to set fire to the place, 63, High Street last May twelve months; Wilson is the man who set it alight; there was not £30 worth of stuff burnt"—I said, "Are you aware of the seriousness of what you say?"—he said, "Yes, I know what I am doing; I have had this on my mind long enough, and I mean to go through with it now"—I said, "If that is so, I will take your statement down in writing"—he repeated the statement, and I took it down at his dictation—I then read it to him, and asked him if he would sign it—he said, "Yes," and he did so.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It is usual to take down statements of this description—I should say the prisoner had been drinking, but I should not call him drunk—Tasked him if he would sign the statement—I believe I should be liable to blame if I did not take down such a statement.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> It is no duty, but only a practice, for the sake of accuracy, and in case a man should deny his statement the next morning I—there is no statute requiring such statements to be taken down; there is a police regulation to that effect.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-161" type="given" value="EDWARD JAMES"/>EDWARD JAMES NEW</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Xergtant N</hi>). I arrested the prisoner upon a warrant on February 7th—when I read it he said, "I am in counsel's hands; I have nothing to say"—I took him on January 30th into custody on a charge of arson—he said then, "That is all right; you go and fetch the others, and I can prove it; I have got some papers in my bureau at home which will fix them up"—after he was charged he said, "Mind, I did not set fire to it; Wilson set fire to it"—on February 11th I was in the prisoners' waiting-room, and I heard the prisoner say,</p>
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<p>"I was a fool to put myself in such a predicament; I was
<hi rend="italic">boozed</hi>, in fact, mad; there is only one way out of it"—later on, the 16th, he said, "I was a b——fool."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-162" type="surname" value="DOD"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-162" type="given" value="FRANCIS AUGUSTUS"/>FRANCIS AUGUSTUS DOD</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer and furniture ware-houseman, at 59, 61 and 63, High Street, Stoke Newington—I have been in business there for eleven years—in 1894 I took the prisoner into my service as an outside salesman—on May 10th, 1895 (when he was still in my service), a fire occurred on my premises—Wilson and Coles were in my service then—from what we subsequently learnt, we thought the fire was caused through Wilson smoking a pipe in the basement; Fitch said Wilson had smoked there—I made a claim on the insurance company, and was paid about £430—within a month after the fire I discharged the prisoner for drunkenness—when I gave him notice he came up to my office desk—I said, "You get out; I will not have any more to do with you; I am tired of you"—he said, "I will make you suffer for this," and he struck the desk with his fist, and split it—he said he would burn the b——show—I then got ex-Policeman Jones to mind the place at night—the prisoner would not go, and stopped on at the place for about three weeks—he occupied a suite of rooms on the upper floor—soon after he had left the premises Mr. Hudson, a trade customer, called on me—the prisoner, after he left, frequently annoyed us; he came and stood in front of the premises, and flourished his umbrella in front of the shop, and he would come into my office if I was not in—I have come in and found him there, and have had to send for the police to remove him—I had to send half a dozen times in the first three weeks—he met me in the street once, and said, "Good evening"—I said, "Good evening, what do you want?"—he said, "Money"—I said, "You will get no money from me," and went on about my business—directly after the prisoner had made this statement to the police, the police came to me to make inquiries—I attended at the Police-court when he was brought up on the charge—I instructed my solicitor to take proceedings against him for this libel, as reports had got about about me—there was not a word of truth in his statement that I had conspired with anybody to set fire to my premises; it is a deliberate lie, and a malicious invention.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was in my service for about fourteen months, I think—I knew he was addicted to drink before I took him—I took him without a reference on trial; for a time he went on very well—six or eight months after I found that he was drinking, but I kept him on, as he was a very goori salesman, and lie did not get so bad until the very end, when I could stand him no longer—after he left he continued to annoy me; I could not give the dates—I took it that when he was drunk he did not know what he was doing—he would not annoy me when he was sober—I gave a letter of reference for him to Mr. Longman; that may have been in 1895—I was asked three or four questions, and I answered one—I did not say that he was in the habit of drinking, though I knew it well—I wrote to Mr. Longman that during the time the prisoner was in my service I had found him above the average of sales
<lb/>men Mr. Longman asked for an interview, and I gave him an appoint
<lb/>ment, but he did not keep it, and I made another appointment, which he did not keep—Mr. Longman asked me for his character—I told him the truth; I did not think it necessary to tell him he drank—I said all the good</p>
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<p>I could or him—the prisoner claimed a week's wages; I don't know if that was the money he asked for when I met him; possibly he referred to that, but he did not say what money—my own solicitor suggested he might have referred to that; I am not vindictive—I only remember one conversation with the prisoner about the fire, when the assessor was there—there was no suggestion that someone set it alight—I had had another fire some years previously—the first fire was caused by using a match to light the gas in the basement—the second fire, the prisoner said, was caused by Wilson's pipe—the kitchen is used as a store-room for new things.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner went into Longman's employment—I never saw Longman—he asked me for a reference—when I told the prisoner to go he said, "Do you mean this, Dod?" and struck the desk with his fist—I said, "Certainly, get out, and I have had enough of it"—he said, "I will make you suffer for this; I will burn the b——show"—he was dreadfully drunk them.</p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-163" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-163" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS COLES</persName> </hi>. I am cashier to the prosecutor, and live at 109, Lystra Road, Stoke Newington—on April, 1894, the prisoner commenced his engagement with the prosecutor—I was present when the prosecutor discharged him, and told him to get out of the office at once, and for good, because he was in a drunken state—the prisoner said, "Do you mean this, Dod?I will make you suffer for this, "and he banged his hand on the desk, and split the desk open, and said, "I will burn the b——show"—there is no truth in the suggestion that I conspired with Wilson or Dod to set fire to the premises.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I made no note of the words—Mr. Dod asked me to give evidence—he called me into the office and said, "I want you to tell the truth what you know on the subject of the fire"—I told him I remembered June 8th, 1895—I think I first repeated my recollection of that to Mr. Romaine, the solicitor.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-164" type="given" value="WILLIAM ARTHUR"/>WILLIAM ARTHUR WILSON</persName> </hi>. I am a salesman in Mr. Dod's employment—I was discharged from his service in May, 1895, shortly after the fire occurred, on account of its being imputed that the fire was caused by my carelessness through smoking downstairs—I was taken back into the service about five days afterwards—the morning af ter the fire the prisoner said to me, "I know you were smoking down there," and he said he found Lie on a chair bedstead, asleep, with ray pipe upside down—it is an utter lie to say we conspired to set the place on fire, or that I had set it on fire on purpose.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was in the employment of Mr. Dod when the first fire took place, and I took the blame for that on my shoulders—I was smoking in the kitchen, used as a store-room, before the second fire took place—Fitch told Mr. Dod it was my'carelessness—I used to sit down and have my dinner, and smoke there—the prisoner did not tell me he had suspicions about me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-165" type="given" value="WILLIAM ALFRED"/>WILLIAM ALFRED HUDSON</persName> </hi>. I am a wholesale ironmonger, of 11, New Inn Yard, Shoreditch—the prisoner came to me within about three days of his leaving Mr. Dod's employment, and said that Mr. Dod was in a state of bankruptcy, and advised me to apply to Mr. Dod for my money at once, or I should lose the whole lot.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I knew the prisoner before I knew Dod, but my account with Dod had been running for some time before the prisoner</p>
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<p>went into his service—he did business with me as Dod's buyer—the prisoner told me he was dismissed—I did not ask him about Dod.</p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-166" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES JONES</persName> </hi>. I am a pensioned police constable—on June 11th, 1895, I was engaged by Mr. Dod to look after his premises at Stoke Newington—the prisoner was then living upstairs on the premises; he remained there till the following Monday—during the night he said he, wanted to go down into the office on the second floor, and destroy all the papers that were in the office—I prevented him—he afterwards said he wanted to get into the shop, and said, "I will set fire to the place; if I cannot, I will smash everything up"—I prevented him from doing so—he was mad drunk at the time—he did not really know what he was doing,—he carried on like that for two nights, repeating his threats, and not reully knowing what he was doing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-167" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-167" type="surname" value="NEW"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-167" type="given" value="EDWARD JAMES"/>EDWARD JAMES NEW</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). On February 1st the prisoner was brought before the Magistrate, charged, on bis own confession, with, conspiracy, and remanded for a week—on February 8th the charge was dismissed, as no evidence was tendered in support of it—the prisoner was sober on February 1st; he said nothing to the Magistrate.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KAPADIA</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was not sufficient publication in law, and, secondly, that the alleged libel was an absolutely privileged communi
<lb/>cation, as it was a statement made in the course of a judicial proceeding to a judicial officer, who wrote it down, and requested the prisoner to sign it.</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Johnson</hi> v.
<hi rend="italic">Evans, Espinasse's Reports; Ram</hi> v.
<hi rend="italic">Lumby, Hutton's Reports.</hi>)
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that a statement made to an inspector at the station was not made in the course of a judicial proceeding, as no judicial pro
<lb/>ceeding was then commenced, and that a man could not create a privilege by invnting a fictitious proceeding. With regard to publication, he argued that if this were not a real charge, and the prisoner's object in going to the station was to get the libel published through the inspector as his agent, there was publication, in law. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COMMON SERJEANT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">held that he should direct the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">that, if the prisoner believed the charge to be true, they must acquit, but that if they believed it was altogether an invention, then they must convict the prisoner.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-245-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<interp inst="t18970308-246-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Feloniously causing grievous bodily harm to
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUGHES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. DRAKE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HARRISON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-170" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK HEISENBOTTEL</persName> </hi> (307
<hi rend="italic">J</hi>). On August 10th, at about 2.30 p.m. I was on duty in Shrubland Road—a great crowd was watching the Militia going away for their autumn training—among others on duty were Henry Green and William Faux in plain clothes—I noticed the move
<lb/>ments of the prisoner, James Wilson, Lunn (who has since been convicted and sentenced), and another man, who were acting suspiciously behind women in the crowd—I watched them for about three
<lb/>quarters of an hour—they then moved off in the direction of the Lee public-house—I was in plain clothes—I followed them—one of them turned, and said, "Here comes a b——split,"meaning a detective—they then turned, and I received a severe blow in the stomach from Lunn, and another blow on the left eye, and immediately after Shea drew an open knife from his coat</p>
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<p>pocket and rushed at me—I ran into a shop, but before getting in I got a kick in the back from him—just after I had got in the shop he put the knife into his pocket, still open, and then I rushed out and collared him—as I was trying to arrest him I received a severe blow on the back of the ear that stunned me, and I lost my prisoner—Faux came to my rescue, but I do not remember anything after that—I am positive Shea is the man—I next saw him at Shrewsbury Prison, with two other men—I had been sent there to arrest him; I identified him—Faux was with me—I had given a description of the man who was with me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There were 500 or 600 people in the crowd—four men caught my attention, of whom the prisoner was one—I assisted to arrest Lunn—I only saw Shea using a knife; I only saw him attempt to use it on me—I and Faux, who arrested Lunn, had to take him into the Lee Arms, assisted by several other tradesmen—the Lee Arms is about fifty yards from the Shrubland Road—I remained in the Lee Arms with Lunn—I knew nothing about what happened to Green—I did not see any truncheon used—I knew I should see a man named Shea at Shrewsbury—I had not seen him prior to August 10th, and my means of observing him on that day were the only means I had of identifying him afterwards—he was not identified from others in the usual way.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When I saw him at Shrewsbury I had not the slightest doubt he was the man.</p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-171" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-171" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FAUX</persName> </hi> (425
<hi rend="italic">J</hi>). On August 10th, about 2.30 p.m., I was in the Shrubland Road—I saw the prisoner and five others, among the crowd, acting suspiciously—I was in plain clothes—the prisoner and six or seven others left the crowd and went towards the Lee Arms—Heisenbottel followed him—I saw the prisoner and others hustling him—the prisoner kicked him as he was going into a shop—I ran to Heisenbottel's assistance—he came out of the shop, and we apprehended Shea—then we were hustled, and a man already sentenced struck Heisenbottel across the hrad with a stick—I let go of the prisoner, and apprehended the other man, when I received a blow on the hend and a cut on the lower part of the back, and a number of bruises about the body—I was on the sick-list for some time—when the prisoner was appre-hended, find the warrant was read to him, he said, "It is only for assault"—on August 10th he was under observation for quite half an hour; I am positive he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. I</hi> was watching half a-dozen men—I did not sef any
<lb/>one using a knife; I did not see a knife—I was present at the North London Police court when Lunn was charged; he was not charged with using a knife—I saw truncheons drawn by the police; I did not see them used—I assisted Heisenbottel to arrest Lunn, and went to the Lee Anna with him—I went with Heisenbottel to Shrewsbury, to identify and arrest the prisoner; we should not have brought him back if he had not been the man—the usual process of identification was not adopted—I bad never seen Shea before August 10th.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have no doubt he is the man I saw—I did not see a Stick in the prisoner's hand.</p>
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<persName id="t18970308-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-172" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT SNELGROVE</persName> </hi> (330
<hi rend="italic">J</hi>). About 2.30 on August 10th I was on duty in Shrubland Road—I heard a police whistle, and I went and saw Faux in the middle of the crowd—I went to his assistance—I saw</p>
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<p>Wilson strike Faux, and took Wilson into custody for assaulting a police constable in the execution of his duty—on the way to the station a mob of 300 or 400 set on me, and a cry of "Rescue" was raised—while I was struggling, and trying to take Wilson to the station, Green came to my assistance—I saw the prisoner strike Green a hard blow on the back of his neck with a truncheon, which he snatched from Green—the prisoner was standing behind Green, and struck him before he could turn round—it felled Green to the ground—I kept the crowd back—I had to release Wilson, because my brother officers were assaulted, and I went to their assistance—I next saw the prisoner at the Police-court—I had only seen him at the time of the assault for five or ten minutes; I was sometimes face to face, and sometimes behind him—I have not the least doubt he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I lost my truncheon in the crowd; it was taken from me in the middle of the row, when Heisenbottel and Faux were some distance behind me—I said at the Police-court that Green was knocked down with my truncheon—I saw Sergeant Brown there—I gave evidence at the North London Sessions against Devenish, who was charged with two other men—he was not charged with using a truncheon—I said I saw him throw stones at Brown—he was convicted of assault—I saw no knife—I did not know the prisoner before August 10th—I next saw him come through from the cells at the Police-court—I knew he was the prisoner charged with this offence.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have not the least doubt he is the man—my truncheon was lost about the time that Green was knocked down, and I jumped to the conclusion he was knocked down with mine, but I have since found that it was Green's.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-173" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-173" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-173" type="surname" value="MORGAN"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-173" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MORGAN</persName> </hi>. I am a fishmonger, carrying on business at 2, Wells Street, Hackney—on August 10th, at 2.30 p.m., I was in the Marlborough Road, and I saw a great crowd—the prisoner was there, and about 100 others—I saw the prisoner run after Heisenbottel, and draw a knife—he made a running kick at him, and kicked him about the time Heisenbottel reached the other side—I am certain the prisoner is the man—Heisen
<lb/>bottel ran into a shop, and stayed there about a minute, and then he came out and seized the prisoner—Faux, in plain clothes, came up to help him, and when the two constables held the prisoner there was a struggle—then Luna came up, and struck Heisenbottel with a stick—six or seven men then were close round the constables—about two minutes after I saw the prisoner stab Faux in the back—after that they all went against some gates, which gave way, and they fell through—a few civilians came up, and assisted the officers to arrest the other man, but this prisoner got away—I next saw him at the North London Police-court, and identified him from eight or twelve men—he is the man I saw use the knife.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> From the time Heisenbottel ran into the shop to the time Faux was stabbed was three or four minutes—I should say there were 100 or 150 people—I suppose the crowd had collected to see the Militia go off; I don't know—I lived right opposite where it happened—when Heisenbottel came out of the shop the prisoner had the knife in his right hand—he did not stab Heisenbottel; he stabbed at him, and kicked at the same time—he stabbed Faux—I cannot say if he stabbed at Snelgrove—I cannot say if he stabbed anyone but Faux—I was watching him—after he stabbed Faux, the crowd became so dense I could not see</p>
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<p>what he did—I cannot say what became of the knife; I believe it was passed to someone else, because I saw another man throw a knife away after the fight was over—I gave evidence against Lunn at the North London Police-court—I swore that he threw away something resembling a knife at the gates of Lee Arms—that was after the assault—I did not say that Lunn stabbed Heisenbottel and Faux—I did not say I saw him use the knife—I said I saw Lunn strike one of the policemen with a stick; that was not the thing resembling the knife—the stick was gone when he threw away the knife—I said at the North London Police-court that the man that was sentenced to five months for assault on the police came up and struck Heisenbottel at the back of the head with a thick stick when Faux came to Heisenbottel's assistance; Faux left Heisenbottel, and seized the man that did the five months, and never left hold of him—I did not know the prisoner before—when I went to identify him I did not see him till I was taken in, and saw him among others.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I am a tradesman in the neighbourhood—the prisoner was the man using the knife—I did not see what became of it, because the crowd became too dense, but some time after I saw Lunn throw away something resembling a knife—the prisoner was the only man I saw deliberately stab a man—I picked the prisoner out at once from eight or nine others—I have not the slightest doubt he is the man.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-174" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-174" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY GREEN</persName> </hi> (317
<hi rend="italic">J</hi>). On August 10th, at 2.30, I was on duty in Shrubland Road—I heard a police whistle, and ran up Brownlow Road, and saw Wilson strike Faux with a stick above the head—I saw Snelgrove arrest Wilson; there was a struggle; I went to assist Snelgrove—Wilson was very violent, and threw both me and Snelgrove to the ground—I saw the prisoner at the corner of Queen's Road—I, Snelgrove, Brown, and two ether constables were taking Wilson to the station up Queen's Road—when at the top of Shrubland Road a crowd of 200 or 300 people raised a cry of "Rescue"—we backed our prisoner against the wall, and took out our truncheons—stones were thrown, and sticks used—there were about three constables in a crowd of 200 or 300—Brown was struck with a stone—Snelgrove's prisoner, Wilson, escaped—we went along Queen's Road, with the mob following us—the prisoner snatched my truncheon from me and struck me to the ground with a blow at the back of my head—I had not had time to get the thong round my wrist—I fell on my side, and then the prisoner kicked me very heavily on the back, at the bottom of the spine—Snelgrove came and kept the prisoner back, and assisted me to my feet, and I was assisted to a surgeon's—I was in bed for eight weeks, and then I went to a convalescent home in October—I resumed active duty on November 9th, or 19th—I was unable to do my duty between August 10th and November 9th in consequence of the injuries which the prisoner inflicted on me—I am sure he is the man—I next saw him on February 18th, at Dalston Police-station, among about ten others—I picked him out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was in uniform—I saw the prisoner in the crowd, as soon as he snatched my truncheon, immediately before he struck me—from the time I first saw him till he struck me was about two minutes, I should say—a mob of people was pressing backwards and forwards—he snatched my truncheon from my hand, coming up to my side—the crowd</p>
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<p>was quite close to me—I turned and saw him strike me—I was on my side on the ground when lie kicked me; I saw him do it—he kicked me from behind: Wilson never assaulted me—I had not seen the prisoner before—I did not give evidence at the North London Sessions; I was in bed at the time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I am quite certain the prisoner is the man.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-175" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-175" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-175" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Sergeant, J</hi>). About 2.30 on August 10th I was on. duty in Shrubland Road, at the corner of Maryborough Road—I saw Green and Snelgrove taking a man towards the station, and I went to their assistance on account of the man throwing both the officers—we were surrounded, at the corner of Shrubland Road, by a mob who cried, "Rescue him!"—the prisoner kicked me on the ankle, not severely—he got away—I had seen him before that day in the neighbourhood of Kings
<lb/>land Road and Haggerston—I identified him. afterwards—I have no doubt be is the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was present at North London Sessions when Devenish, Foster, and Lunn were charged—Devenish was charged with striking me over the head with a stick, and sentenced to six months' hard labour—another was sentenced to three months for throwing stones at me, and Foster was sentenced to six months for assaulting Snelgrove—Devenish used a stick or stone—no truncheon was lost at that time—I am not quite certain whether I was struck with a stick or a stone; it was not a truncheon, I am positive—Lunn was charged with assaulting Faux and Heisenbottel—I was present, but did not give evidence—I believe Lunn was not charged with using a knife—I identified the prisoner on February 18th—I had not seen hint between then and August 10th.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-176" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-176" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-176" type="surname" value="SHAW"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-176" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD SHAW</persName> </hi> (207
<hi rend="italic">G</hi>). I was present on August 10th at Shrubland Road—I was in plain clothes, and had two children with me—I saw some constables taking Wilson into custody—Wilson struggled, and there was a good deal of struggling and kicking—the prisoner attempted to rescue Wilson, who shortly afterwards got away—the prisoner returned after that with others, and I saw him coming out of the crowd with a truncheon in his hand—he 'went away up towards Queen's Road with it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had my children under my arm—Devenish struck Brown on the head with a stick, after Wilson was rescued, in the struggle—Devenish was charged at North London Sessions with assaulting Brown I with a stick; a truncheon was not mentioned in that case.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-177" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-177" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-177" type="surname" value="CLARK"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-177" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CLARK</persName> </hi> (410
<hi rend="italic">G</hi>). On August 10th, about 2.30 p.m., I was in bed—I heard a police whistle—I at once dressed, and came out and went towards Queen's Road—I saw the prisoner and several men going in the direction of Queen's Road Bridge.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-178" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-178" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-178" type="given" value="CHARLES HOWARD"/>CHARLES HOWARD JACKMAN</persName> </hi>. I am assistant divisional surgeon of the J Police—on August 10th I saw Green at his house—he was recovering from concussion of the brain—he had a cut on the left side of his face, in front of the ear; and a severe bruise on the centre of his back, which had caused injury to the spinal cord, and set up inflammation—it necessitated my keeping him in bed for about two months—he was not able to sit up during that time—after that he went to a convalescent home for about three weeks—he went on reserve duty about November 9th—a severe blow or kick would have caused the injury to the spine—a severe blow</p>
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<p>would have caused the injury to the head; it would have caused imme
<lb/>diate unconsciousness.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There is no permanent injury.</p>
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<interp inst="t18970308-246-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-246-18970308 t18970308-246-punishment-37"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GRAND JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">commended Heisenbottel, Faux, Green, and Snelgrove, and the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">awarded them £5 each.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILHELM JOHN MERLE</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-182" type="surname" value="M'VAY"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-247-offence-1 t18970308-name-182"/>Catherine M'Vay</persName>.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>—Receiving the same. </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MERLE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18970308-247-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-247-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. KERSHAW</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">R. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-183" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-183" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-183" type="surname" value="HERON"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-183" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HERON</persName> </hi>. I live at 15, Montagu Place—a bicycle was stolen from my place on February 4th—I saw it again the following morning at Tottenham Cpurt Road Police-station—its value is £12 10s.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-184" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-184" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-184" type="given" value="IDA"/>IDA VETERMAN</persName> </hi>. I live at 59, Charlotte Street—the prisoners have come three or four times to my house to dine—I saw Schmidt there early in February.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Schmidt.</hi> I took the restaurant on January 12th or 13th—you first came there by yourself, and afterwards with Merle.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-185" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-185" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-185" type="surname" value="GUTMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-185" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY GUTMAN</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Charles Gutman—I was cook at 59, Charlotte Street last February—on February 4th the prisoners came together—they had big bags with them, which they left in my room—they came to ask for a room, and there was not one to let, and they asked if they might leave the bags in my room till the next day—next morning I went into my room, and found the bags gone—the restaurant is opened early in the morning, so that people can come in and out from the street—a few days ago I saw the bags in the hands of the owners.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You came and asked for a bedroom for Merle—I said he could leave his bags in my room until he had a room—I said I could give him a room next day, but I did not see you afterwards—you brought one bag, and he the other.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-186" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-186" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-186" type="surname" value="GURNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-186" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES GURNETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Sergeant</hi>, 8
<hi rend="italic">D</hi>). On February 5th, about one p.m., I went with Seymour to 11, Vine Street, Waterloo Road, where, in a back room on the ground floor, I saw Schmidt—I told him we were police officers, and that I should take him into custody for being concerned with a man not in custody in stealing a quantity of wearing apparel—he said, "I received a note from that man Merle yesterday, and from its contents I went to No. 59, Charlotte Street, Fitzroy Square. I remained there until about eight o'clock, when the man Merle came in a cab with a quantity of luggage and two bicycles. I assisted him with the luggage into the house; he afterwards gave me one of the bicycles, which I took home. I then returned to Charlotte Street, and had a drink with him, and made arrangements to meet him the following day at three o'clock"—I looked round the room, and saw a bicycle standing there—when he saw I was looking at it, he said, "That is the bicycle which the man gave me"—that was the bicycle which was afterwards shown to Heron at the Police-station—I searched the room, and found this gold pin, brooch and cap—he was wearing this overcoat at the time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You said you bought the overcoat of a waiter six or</p>
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<p>seven weeks before for £2—when you were charged you said you bought it for £1 from Merle—when charged on the remand you said you bought the other things from Merle.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-187" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-187" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-187" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18970308-name-187" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH JONES</persName> </hi>. I live at 19, Howland Street—on December 24th Merle came, and took a room there—he slept there on the night of Decem
<lb/>ber 26th—the next day we missed this cap, brooch, gold pin, and other property.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18970308-name-188" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18970308-name-188" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18970308-name-188" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BONSALL</persName> </hi>. I am proprietor of the Castle and Falcon Hotel, Aldersgate Street—this is my coat—it was in the hall of my hotel on January 27th, and I missed it between then and the following morning—I gave nobody authority to take it—I gave information to the police—it cost eleven guineas.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Schmidt, in his statement before the Magistrate, said that Merle gave him the bicycle. In his defence, he said that Merle gave him the bicycle, and that he bought the pin and other things from him.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MERLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">to
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<interp inst="t18970308-247-offence-3" type="offenceSubcategory" value="theftFromPlace"/>stealing a bag and other articles from the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18970308-248-offence-1 t18970308-name-191"/>Ellen Archer</persName>, with intent to do her some grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. J. C. COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">Inspector</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">KING</hi>. From information received, I went to 195, Latimer Road, where I saw Ellen Archer, aged seven, lying on the bed with a wound in her throat—a smaller child was also on the bed—I seat for the doctor, and the child was afterwards received at the hospital—from information I received from the child, I went in search of the prisoner, and apprehended him as he was entering a public-house in the Latimer Road, about half an hour afterwards—I told him I should take him into custody for wounding his child in the throat; he said, "Is she dead?I hope not"—on the way to the station he said, "I know I have done wrong; it is all through the drink; I have been having a drop of
<hi rend="italic">pinkie</hi>, and I am sorry for it; I have been out of work, and you know what it is when you have had some drink
<hi rend="italic">"</hi>—at the station he said, "I know what I have done; I am very sorry for it"—this knife was handed to me by a constable in the passage.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner, in his defence, stated that he was in drink, and did not know what lie was doing; and that he was very sorry for it.</hi> </p>
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