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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>ISAACS, MAYOR.</p>
<p>EIGHTH SESSION, HELD MAY 19TH, 1890.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE.</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>ALEXANDER BUCKLER,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
<p>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS AND SONS, LIMITED, 119, CHANCERY LANE,</p>
<p>Law Booksellers and Publishers.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, May 19th, 1890, and following days.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE</hi> the
<hi rend="smallCaps">RIGHT HON. SIR</hi>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-2" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HAWKINS</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's High Court of Justice; Sir
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-3" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Knt., Sir
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-4" type="given" value="JAMES CLARKE"/>JAMES CLARKE LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Bart., Sir
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-5" type="given" value="REGINALD"/>REGINALD HANSON</persName> </hi>, Bart., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-6" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q. C., Recorder of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-7" type="given" value="EDWARD JAMES"/>EDWARD JAMES GRAY</persName> </hi>, Esq.,
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<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN VOCE MOORE</hi>, Esq., and
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-10" type="given" value="ALFRED JAMES"/>ALFRED JAMES NEWTON</persName> </hi>, Esq., other of the Aldermen of the said City; and Sir
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-11" type="given" value="WILLIAM THOMAS"/>WILLIAM THOMAS CHARLEY</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q. C., D. C. L., Common Serjeant of the said City; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-15" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BEARD</persName> </hi>, Esq.,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ISAACS, MAYOR. EIGHTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1890.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">also,</hi> to unlawfully obtaining money by false pretences. </rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-412-18900519 t18900519-412-punishment-1"/>One Day's Imprisonment each</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18900519-415-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="mail"/>, To stealing a half-sovereign, an apron, and other articles out of a letter, whilst in the employ of the Post Office.—</rs>
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<p>416.
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<p>417.
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<hi rend="italic">Four Months' Hard Labour.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>418.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS PEARSON</hi> (32)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18900519-418-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-418-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/>, To three indictments for embezzling orders for £35, £16 19s., and £30, of Messers. McLean and Co., his masters.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-418-18900519 t18900519-418-punishment-7"/>
<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>419.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM CHARLES WATSON</hi> (28)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18900519-419-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-419-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: see original file image]</rs>
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<interp inst="t18900519-419-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-419-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, To three in dictments for forging and uttering requests for the delivery of goods; and
<hi rend="italic">also,</hi> to stealing 39 pieces of paper of
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-419-offence-1 t18900519-name-30"/>George Hyde</persName>, his master.—</rs>
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<interp inst="t18900519-419-punishment-8" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-419-18900519 t18900519-419-punishment-8"/>
<hi rend="italic">Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</hi> </rs> And</p> </div1>
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<p>420.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SARAH REYNOLDS</hi> (36)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18900519-420-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, To feloniously attempting to kill herself.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>421.
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<interp inst="def1-421-18900519" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-421-18900519" type="age" value="32"/>
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<interp inst="def1-421-18900519" type="occupation" value="bakery worker"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN WALLINGTON</hi> (32)</persName>
<rs id="t18900519-421-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-421-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-421-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Forging and uttering a request for £6, with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RICHARDS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MOYSES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-33" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-33" type="surname" value="BURROWS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-33" type="given" value="ERNEST"/>ERNEST BURROWS</persName> </hi>. I am a gunner in the Royal Artillery, now stationed at Dover—I am a depositor in the Post Office Savings Bank—I made my deposit at Malden, in Essex—I have known the prisoner for three or four months, I worked with him at a bakery at Homerton—on 18th or 19th February I sent my bank-book to the Post Office for</p>
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<p>examination—I was then going to enlist—I gave the address, with the prisoner's consent, of "care of Mr. Wallington, 14, Marsh Hill, Homerton," for the book to be returned to—I told the prisoner I had sent the book and when it would come back—on 20th February I enlisted—I asked the prisoner to keep the book till I wrote to him—I wrote two letters to him from Dover Castle—they were both returned to me through the Dead Letter Office—I had £8 5s. 6d. in the bank when I sent my book—the name on this application to withdraw, "Ernest Burrows, Marsh Hill, Homerton," is not my writing—I did not authorise "Wellington or any body to sign my name—the signature on this receipt is not mine—I withdrew no money in February, nor did I ask anyone to do it for me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I and the prisoner got to be very friendly—he had been in the army, and had retired with a pension—I eventually found his address by applying to my commanding officer—I expect if he moved his address he had to give notice to the War Office—I wrote after I found his address, and received this reply. (
<hi rend="italic">This, dated 20th April, said that if he had known Burrows was in Dover he should have written before</hi>;
<hi rend="italic">that a week or so after Burrows had gone a man had called and told his.</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Wallington's</hi>)
<hi rend="italic">wife that he had Burrows' orders to take away his box and bank-book, and that his wife let the man have them</hi>)—I had left my box there—I found the prisoner very straightforward while I was associated with him—I should not have thought such a thing of him; £6 of the £8 5s. 6d. has been taken out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I got the letter on the day it bears date—I enlisted on 20th February—the application to withdraw was on 24th February—I knew Mrs. Wellington.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-34" type="surname" value="SLOCUM"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-34" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES SLOCUM</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Savings Bank Department of the General Post Office—on 25th February this notice of withdrawal came into my hands; it bears the department stamps with dates—I made out this warrant for £6 on the same day, and addressed it to the address on the flap—it would be posted on the evening of the 25th, I expect; it would go in the ordinary course—this is the one I made out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-35" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-35" type="surname" value="GORDON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-35" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE GORDON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of William Ireland Gordon, of 14, Marsh Hill, Homerton—the prisoner lodged at my house for some time, and left on 27th February—he gave no address where he was going to—his wife told me they were going to Notting Hill—after he left two letters with the Dover postmark came for him—I kept one for some time, and then another came, and I returned them to the postman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He paid his rent up to 26th February—on Sunday, 23rd February, a telegram came for him from Mr. Dowell, a baker, at Pimlico, and he went away that day—he returned on the Thursday, and went away with his family and his things in a van that day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-36" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-36" type="surname" value="ROLFE"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-36" type="given" value="EDITH"/>EDITH ROLFE</persName> </hi>. I am employed at the post-office, High Street, Homer ton—I cashed this warrant for £6 on 26th February, to a person who signed in my presence, a deposit-book was produced at the same time—I don't remember the person to whom I paid it—our office is open from 9 to 6 for the payment of withdrawals.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We have a list of withdrawals each day, which is forwarded to the General Post Office at night—we have no copy of it—I remember paying this £6, I think it was in the afternoon; it was after dinner; it was the only one paid that day—it must have been paid to a man.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-37" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-37" type="surname" value="LOVELL"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-37" type="given" value="WILLIAM FEELEY"/>WILLIAM FEELEY LOVELL</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Savings Bank Depart ment of the General Post Office—I was requested to make inquiry into this matter—on 6th April I went with Burrows to the prisoner's lodgings, at 13, Colchester Street, Pimlico—I said to him, pointing to Burrows, "We have come to you to make inquiries about this young man's Savings Bank book"—he said to Burrows, "You have had a letter from me, have you not?"—Burrows said, "Yes"—the prisoner said, "That is all I know about it; it is all in that letter"—I said "Before issuing a new book the Post Office felt bound to make inquiries"—the prisoner said, "A strange man called for your book and clothes, and my wife gave them to him—I asked to see his wife—he said she was away in the country, and would not be back till Satur day—I asked him to make a statement as to what he knew about, the book, and he wrote this statement in the presence of Burrows and me: "April 30th, 1890. I knew Ernest Burrows at Homerton, and about a week or fortnight after he had enlisted a
<hi rend="italic">tallish</hi> young man came to my place of abode, saying Mr. Burrows had sent him for his clothes. So my wife let him have them. I have not seen anything more of him since. The Savings Bank book was given with the clothes.—
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WALLINGTON</hi>. It came to my house in a cover, to 14, Marsh Hill, Homer ton; I did not see the man myself who come for Ernest Burrows' things"—I have had twenty years' experience in the comparison of hand writing, it has been my daily work for twenty years or more; difficult signatures are submitted to me—I have not the slightest doubt that the notice of withdrawal is in the prisoner's writing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He added that his wife was in Oxford-shire—I did not tell the prisoner I had the notice of withdrawal and the warrant with me when I called on him; I had them—I did not caution him before he wrote the statement; I made no reference to the withdrawal—his manner was very excited, and he looked frightened, and I limited my inquiries to the book—I came to the conclusion that the withdrawal notice and statement were by the same hand, after very close comparison—it did not take long, but it was made exhaustively—I had a glass, though there was no occasion for it—I was fully convinced ten minutes after I had the statement—the prisoner was arrested two months after it happened—I have not followed the histories of Chabot and Nether-clift—I said in my information, "I am strongly of opinion that the name and address were written by Wellington"—if that is a different expression to the one I have used to-day it is not intended to convey any difference—observation had been kept on the prisoner's movements for some few days beforehand.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I said to the prisoner, "Can you give me any description of this strange man who called at the house for Burrows' book and clothes?"—he said, "No, except that he was a
<hi rend="italic">tallish</hi> young man"—I said, "Did he produce an authority of any kind?"—he said, "No"—he said his wife saw him, and that he did not; he cannot call his wife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-38" type="surname" value="STEVENS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-38" type="given" value="CHARLES JAMES"/>CHARLES JAMES STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I am senior clerk in the Confidential Department of the General Post Office; I have been in the Post Office thirty-nine years—for twenty years I have had experience in the comparison of handwriting—I have carefully compared the writing of this statement made by the prisoner and this notice of withdrawal, and I believe they were both written by the same person.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My opinion was obtained while the prisoner was at the Police-court; I did not attend there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-39" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-39" type="surname" value="TOWER"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-39" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW TOWER</persName> </hi>. I am a police constable attached to the Post Office—on 2nd May I arrested the prisoner at 13, Colchester Street—I read the warrant and showed it to him—he made no observation—I took him to the station; he made no reply to the charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Going in the cab to Bow Street he said, "I didn't think I was wanted; last evening at 11 o'clock I went up to the top of the street and stood by the side of a detective, and he did not say any thing to me"—I was there and left at 10 o'clock—observation had been kept on the prisoner for about three days.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Two witnesses were called to the Prisoners character.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-421-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-421-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18900519-421-punishment-10" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-421-punishment-10" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-421-punishment-10" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-421-18900519 t18900519-421-punishment-10"/>Twelve Months'-Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1890.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>422.
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<interp inst="def1-422-18900519" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES WEST</hi> (19)</persName>
<rs id="t18900519-422-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-422-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-422-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin twice in the same day.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILMOT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. K. FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-41" type="surname" value="YEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-41" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES YEMAN</persName> </hi>. I keep The Plough, 557, Old Ford Road—on 17th April I served the prisoner with half a pint of beer; he tendered a half crown, I gave him two single shillings and fourpence-halfpenny change; he drank the beer and left—I looked at the coin not a second afterwards, tested it, and found it bad—I followed him 150 yards, he joined another man—I followed them to the Broadway, Stratford, a mile or a mile and a quarter, but did not see a constable—the prisoner stopped at a fish monger's shop, and his companion walked on a yard or two—I got on a tram and passed them—I saw a constable, and got down, and went back to where the prisoner was looking at a crab—I told him I should give him in custody for tendering this half-crown—he said, "I have not been to Bow"—I said, "You have"—I showed him the half-crown, and said he had given it in payment for the beer he had called for; he denied it, and at lie station he said, "If I tendered you the half-crown, why did not you find it out while I was on the premises?"—I gave him in custody; I am sure he is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I put the half-crown on the shelf—I have no assist ant but my wife, and she was not in the bar that day—I had not left the bar; I had my meals there—I had never seen the prisoner before—this is the half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-42" type="surname" value="BLAKE"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BLAKE</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Alfred White, a fishmonger, of Broadway, Stratford—on 17th April the prisoner purchased a crab, price threepence, and gave me a florin—I threw it up, and the cashier gave me one shilling, sixpence, and a threepenny piece, which I gave to the prisoner,
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLARA DEARLOVE</hi>. I am cashier to Mr. White—I heard the prisoner ask for a crab; Blake brought me a florin, and I gave him a shilling, a sixpence, and threepence—I put the florin on top of the other money, and soon afterwards a communication was made to me and Mr. White took the same coin and gave it to me—it was bad—I had not noticed that before—the constable marked it—I took no other florin after I put this one on top of the money.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-43" type="surname" value="LEADLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-43" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS LEADLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 422). On 17th April, about 2.45 p.m., Yeman pointed out the prisoner to me at a fishmonger's shop—I went across to him and said, "The landlord of the Plough beer-house is going to charge you with uttering counterfeit coin at his house, do you know anything about it?"—he said, "No; I have not been to the Plough"—I was in uniform—Mr. Yeman came up and said, "Yes, you are the man who paid this," and produced a half-crown—he said, "No, governor, you have made a mistake, I have not been to Bow"—on the way to the station he said to the prosecutor, "If I did pass that half-crown in your house you should have found it out before I left"—before he was searched he produced a half-crown, a florin, a shilling, a sixpence, and threepence, all good—I found one penny on him and the remains of a crab—I said, "What coin did you give in payment for the crab?"—he said, "I gave one shilling, and received nine-pence change"—I then went to the fish shop, received the florin and marked it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He has been in prison since April 18th, and would be seen by the warders, detective sergeants and uniform police, and nothing was known against him—he is a costermonger—I have been 5 years and 3 months in the police—it has not come to my knowledge that people frequently prevent their friends from discovering that they are in trouble—I did not find any tissue paper in his pocket and never heard of it in any coining case—I have never heard that people who utter counterfeit coin keep it wrapped in paper—nothing is known against the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Nichols told me this morning that he has had the prisoner under observation—when I say that I know nothing against him, I mean that I know of no conviction against him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-44" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-44" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both counterfeit.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">NICHOLS</hi>. I know the prisoner as the associate of coiners—his character is bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-45" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-45" type="given" value="KEITH"/>MR. KEITH FRITH</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">asked the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COMMON SERJEANT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to reserve the point at to whether no general evidence of good character having been elicited by him.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILMOTT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">had been entitled to call rebutting testimony as to general bad character.</hi> (Queen
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Rowton, 10 Cox 25.)
<hi rend="italic">After hearing</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MR. WILMOTT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COMMON SERJEANT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">ruled that as it had been laid down in the ease cited that nothing had been heard against a person's character was the most cogent evidence of good character, there was no case for him to reserve.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-422-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs>.</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-422-18900519 t18900519-422-punishment-11"/>Twenty Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1890.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-423-offence-1 t18900519-name-47"/>Charlotte Woolrych</persName>, a girl under the age of 13.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-423-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18900519-423-punishment-12" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-423-18900519 t18900519-423-punishment-12"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude,</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1890.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-50" type="surname" value="WING"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-424-offence-1 t18900519-name-50"/>William, Wing</persName>, a truck of potatoes; and other goods from other persons, with intent to defaud;
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<join result="nameAlias" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-name-52 t18900519-alias-2"/>Albert Martin</rs> </persName>.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-425-offence-1 t18900519-name-55"/>Henry Thicking</persName> 3s., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SANDS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<rs id="t18900519-425-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">could not agree, and were discharged without giving a verdict</hi>.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">For other cases tried this day, see Kent and Essex cases.</hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th, and</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st</hi> 1890.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder,</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to the burglary, but not to the previous conviction.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-59" type="surname" value="WARD"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-59" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WARD</persName> </hi>. I am principal warder of Wandsworth Gaol—I was present at the prisoner's trial—this is the certificate.(
<hi rend="italic">John Turner, convicted February 4th,</hi> 1889,
<hi rend="italic">of stealing</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">carts and a gelding and harness, having been previously convicted—Sentence</hi> 15
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<p>427.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-63" type="witnessName">
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> When I first saw you in the bar I said, "I believe that is the man," because you bent your head and concealed your features, therefore I hesitated at first—I did not say that you were wearing another hat and trousers—I did not mention your clothing—I was too surprised to stop you, and I did not know they were our fire irons till I went in and missed them—I have never seen them since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I am sure the prisoner is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-64" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN EGAN</persName> </hi> (
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not say at the Mansion House that you were wearing another coat and hat; that was said by another constable—Hunt described you as wearing dark clothes, a hat with a silk band, a shabby-genteel appearance, upwards of 40 years of age, face not shaven, whiskers not very long, a man who did not shave at all—I did not say, "I suppose she was afraid of perjuring herself,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was not within a mile of the house on the day in question.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ORMSBY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-68" type="given" value="NICHOLAS"/>NICHOLAS LEWIS</persName> </hi>. I am a baker of 141, Brick Lane, Whitechapel—on 14th April, about 5 p.m., I left my cart outside the Comet public-house, Christian Street, in charge of my brother-in-law—I called him in to have a drink—the landlord said something, and I went out and missed my cart—I found it two days afterwards at Witham, in Essex, detained by the police.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-69" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT PEARCE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant H</hi>). On 16th April I went to Witham and saw the prisoners—I charged them with stealing the horse and trap, Hostler said, "You must ask this man," pointing to Brown, "I am only his servant, I came with him for a ride"—Brown said, "This is the fruits of getting
<hi rend="italic">boozed"</hi>—Hostler said, "If we had not been drunk we should never have done it"—I saw the horse and trap there—Lewis identified it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Nothing had been sold—Kelvedon is four miles from Witham, the prisoners were arrested by the Kelvedon police, who brought them to Witham—Hostler is a manufacturer of non-intoxicating drinks—he has never had any charge made against him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-70" type="surname" value="RAYMOND"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-70" type="given" value="SAMUEL FELTON"/>SAMUEL FELTON RAYMOND</persName> </hi>. I am a coach-builder, and keep the Queen's Head Hotel, Kelvedon—on April 15th the prisoners came there, leading a trap—they did not seem at all drunk, Hostler paid for a pot of ale.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-71" type="surname" value="PATTEN"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-71" type="given" value="ZACHARIAH ROGERS"/>ZACHARIAH ROGERS PATTEN</persName> </hi>. I am a horsedealer of Hatfield Peverel, near Chelmsford—on Tuesday, April 15th, at 7 a.m. the two prisoners came in a trap to the Swan, where I was staying—Brown was driving—they had a quart of beer, which Brown paid for—they were sober—they said they were going to Cogglesham, and Hostler said, "Do you know any one who will buy the horse and trap for £20?"—they said, "We are out on a spree and mean to sell the horse and cart"—I advised them to go to Thomas Champion at Kelvedon, and they drove away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am a judge of horses—I said that I was not buying to-day—it was a nice little cob—Hostler did not say that it was worth £20—I did not notice any man in the cart—Hatfield Peverel is six miles from Kelvedon.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Brown's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I plead guilty to taking it I was in liquor, and did not know what I was doing."</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAX</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-72" type="surname" value="BISHOP"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-72" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BISHOP</persName> </hi>. I live at 21, Batty Street, St. George's-in-the-East, and am a carman in Hostlers service; he is a manufacturer of mineral waters—on April 14th I was in Matilda Street, where Hostler lives, and Brown came in and said, "Come on, come for a ride"—Hostler said, "I will come"—I did not go outside—Brown asked me to go for a ride, I declined because he was drunk—Hostler went out, and the next time I saw him he was in the hands of the police—Hostler was drunk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This was 5.30 or 6 o'clock—Hostler's place of business is 3, Matilda Street, 50 yards from the Comet public-house—I have worked for him four years, he has not been in trouble during that time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">At the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER'S</hi>
<hi rend="italic">suggestion Brown withdrew his plea of</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and took the verdict of the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">who then found both prisoners</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIAS DAVIS</hi> (18)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-429-offence-1 t18900519-name-74"/>William Jeffreys</persName>, with intent to resist the lawful apprehension of persons unknown. </rs>
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GRAND JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">having ignored the Bill for highway robbery with violence,</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SANDERS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">offered no evidence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES BRYERS</hi> (24)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-430-offence-1 t18900519-name-76"/>Georgina Churchill</persName>, aged five years.—</rs>
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<interp inst="t18900519-430-punishment-15" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-430-18900519 t18900519-430-punishment-15"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>431.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES SEXTON</hi> (22)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE NAY</hi> (22)</persName>
<rs id="t18900519-431-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-431-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-431-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: see original file image]</rs>
<rs id="t18900519-431-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-431-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMPSON</hi>**†—
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<hi rend="italic">Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</hi> </rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SEXTON</hi>** and
<hi rend="largeCaps">NAY</hi>**—
<rs id="t18900519-431-punishment-17" type="punishmentDescription">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-431-18900519 t18900519-431-punishment-17"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-431-18900519 t18900519-431-punishment-17"/>
<hi rend="italic">Five Years' Penal Servitude each.</hi> </rs> And</p> </div1>
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<p>432.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY FORRESTER</hi> (18)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18900519-432-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-432-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, To two indictments for burglary and larceny, and one for house breaking and larceny—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>433.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS HENDERSON</hi>, </persName>
<rs id="t18900519-433-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-433-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-433-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/> Unlawfully making a false representation to obtain a certificate from the Watermen's Company.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ISAACS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-82" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-82" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-82" type="given" value="LEWIS STEPHEN"/>LEWIS STEPHEN WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to the Watermen's Company; they grant certificates under their Act of Parliament to masters to employ apprentices on the river—the Act requires that the apprentice should have worked and rowed on the river for two years next proceding, and under sec. 2 masters are liable for employing any apprentice who is not duly qualified—the defendant is a freeman of the Company, and on 13th March he applied to the Court, in writing, for a certificate; this is it.(
<hi rend="italic">This was the application of Thomas Henderson, for a licence to employ his apprentice Thomas Robert Salter Malt by, who was bound to him on 14th February,</hi> 1888,
<hi rend="italic">to take charge of craft</hi>)—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is a form, signed by several persons: "We, the undersigned, beg to certify that the within-named apprentice is sober and industrious, and within two years has been employed in taking charge of craft"—we have both the master and the apprentice before the Court before granting that licence—Henderson appeared before the Court on 13th March, and with some difficulty we obtained the information from him that this apprentice had been</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="189005190012"/>
<p>working for himself two months, and for the previous nine months with Mr. Robert Emmerson at Brentford—he first said seven months and then nine months—upon that, as he did not make out two years' employment, the Court refused the application, and instructed the Inspector to call on the parties who had signed the certificate, and summoned the six men to show cause why they should not be prosecuted; and, in consequence of what transpired, the defendant was summoned to the Mansion House; I was there—he claimed to be tried by a jury.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This certificate is signed by the applicant and six freemen, and is headed, "Apprentice's certificate"—the application was for a certificate for licence, which signifies that the Court have examined the apprentice and licensed the master
<hi rend="italic">to</hi> employ him—when we have granted a licence and entered it in the book, if the applicant wants a certificate of the licence he would apply for it, and we should enter it in a book; we record it—I am quite clear that Henderson answered the questions; they were put by Mr. Gray and myself—the boy was there, but I do not know that Henderson referred to him to answer for himself—I have been secretary eight years, and never knew of a prosecution before—the Master stated something to the effect that it was somewhat unfortunate for us that this should have happened at the present moment—there is a Bill before Parliament to curtail our privileges.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> In the last three or four years the company have had to summon men who made their own applications, and they were told that if this signing went on without their knowing the persons, further proceedings would be taken—they have been warned—the Master said he was reluctant to take proceedings' now because it might look as if we were playing up the Bill—Maltby was questioned, but we could not get anything out of him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-83" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-83" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-83" type="surname" value="CHISWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-83" type="given" value="JAMES WILLIAM"/>JAMES WILLIAM CHISWELL</persName> </hi>. I am a lighterman of Brentford, foreman to Robert Emmerson, and master of a tug belonging to him towing barges every day—I have been in his service ten years—I have seen Robert Salter Maltby—he has not been employed as lighterman and waterman by Mr. Emmerson for nine months to my knowledge; I must have seen him if he had—I never saw him working as lighterman or waterman for Mr. Emmerson or anybody else—I signed this document because Mr. Emmerson asked me to do so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have only seen Maltby on board ships lying in a tier.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-84" type="surname" value="BURN"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-84" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK BURN</persName> </hi>. I am a lighterman, in the employ of Mr. Emmerson—I have been three years in his service and have never seen Maltby working for him—if he had worked for him for seven or nine months I must have seen him—I did not know him till I went to the Mansion. House—I signed this certificate because Mr. Emmerson asked me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was lying on the table, and he said, "Just put your name down there," and I thought no more about it—I had no idea it was a certificate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-85" type="surname" value="WALLINGTON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-85" type="given" value="JAMES JOB"/>JAMES JOB WALLINGTON</persName> </hi>. I am a waterman and lighterman at Poplar, and have worked up and down the river daily for 22 years—I know Maltby—I never saw him at work as a lighterman, I have seen him on board several ships as a stevedore.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have seen him on the launch
<hi rend="italic">Roving Monarch</hi> going</p>
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<p>about the docks, not on the river, and not navigating it—I do not know that he was at sea six years before he was apprenticed.
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES HENRY SHOWELL</hi>. I have been fifteen years an inspector in the service of the Watermen's Company—I was present at the Court on March 13th when the defendant was called; he said that Maltby had been working with him some months, and also with Mr. Emmerson, of Brentford, for seven or nine months as lighterman—I am about the river every day, but never saw Maltby working as a waterman or lighterman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Henderson did not say, when asked, "The boy is here and can answer for himself"—the boy was there, and questions were put to him, but he was very reluctant in saying anything—I do not remember him answering any questions—when a boy is apprenticed the master has to "teach, or cause him to be instructed."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Evidence for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-86" type="surname" value="MALTBY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-86" type="given" value="THOMAS ROBERT SALTER"/>THOMAS ROBERT SALTER MALTBY</persName> </hi>. I am twenty years old—I was apprenticed to Henderson on 13th February, 1888—I had been at sea about six years prior to that—when I entered into the indentures with Henderson, I navigated boats and barges on the Thames up to the time of making this application and since—I had charge of the
<hi rend="italic">Moving Monarch,</hi> and navigated her up and down the river—I did not take barges with her—I navigated her about Churchold Pier and other places.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was acting as stevedore at Churchold Pier and stowing the craft—I should not like to say how seldom I had navigated boats and barges previous to that—I appeared before the Court of the Watermen's Company—they asked where I had been employed, and I told them by Emmerson—I answered all the questions they put—I have been acting for Emmerson, shifting the barges, all last year; I mean 1888—he paid me weekly—I was not apprenticed till February, 1888—I know Chiswell, and I have seen Burn before—they do not know me, because they do not like to, it don't pay them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. It is upon oath that they never saw me at work, and I say it was not to their interest.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-87" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-87" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-87" type="surname" value="GARETTY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GARETTY</persName> </hi>. I live at 4, Rotherhithe Street, and am a lighterman, waterman—I know Mr. Maltby, sen., and Mr. Thos. Robert Salter Maltby since I left school—I have seen him engaged on the water many times, rowing a boat with me; that is part of a lighterman waterman's duty—he has been on a barge alongside a ship as we load—he used to come in a boat when quite a lad—I knew him when he was apprenticed to the prisoner; since then I have known him on and off pretty well every week; he was not engaged by me; he used to come with me to see how the ships worked; he was working for his father.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He used to go out with me practising in the boat, for pleasure, and to learn his business as well—I was not called before the Magistrate; I was laid up ill.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> An apprentice can learn his work with somebody else besides his master; that is an everyday occurrence. '</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. It is a rule to lend an apprentice from one to another, that is generally allowed by the Watermen's Company—you see it every day on the Thames now—an apprentice can do so without his master's sanction; plenty do it—I have been a freeman 36 years.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-88" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-88" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-88" type="surname" value="WARD"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-88" type="given" value="ROBERT CHARLES"/>ROBERT CHARLES WARD</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed waterman and lighterman, of 10, Adland Street, Rotherhithe—I know Thos. Robert Salter Maltby—I have seen him on craft with a loaded barge—he is competent to take sole charge, in my opinion.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was employed with me several times barge loading with esparto grass 18 months ago; the last ship he worked with me was in June last—I have known him five years—if I had been asked to sign his certificate I should certainly have done it—I was not asked to give evidence before the Magistrate—I took him in my boat alongside a ship; I was working with stevedores—he navigated a barge with me two years ago, he hired the barge himself; that was before he was apprenticed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-89" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-89" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-89" type="surname" value="SHOULT"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-89" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SHOULT</persName> </hi>. I have been a licensed lighterman waterman since 1862—I know young Maltby—I did not know he was apprenticed to Henderson till I saw him in a craft, eighteen months or two years ago, and on several occasions since I have seen him in craft, dropping them up—that was a proper thing to do to learn his business—in my opinion he is competent to take sole charge of craft; if anybody had asked me to sign his papers I would have done so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have not been asked to go before the Magistrate—when I have seen him in craft it has not been only alongside a ship, but under way, navigating a barge, in sole charge of it—lots of things are done with apprentices which are not allowed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-90" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-90" type="surname" value="READER"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-90" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN READER</persName> </hi>. I live at 7, Bell Yard, Gravesend, and have been a lighterman and waterman all my life—I know T. R. S. Maltby, I have seen him properly navigating the little steam launch
<hi rend="italic">Roving Monarch</hi> up the river at Gravesend—
<hi rend="italic">I</hi> have seen him in sole charge of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-91" type="surname" value="BAKER"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-91" type="given" value="GEORGE SAMUEL"/>GEORGE SAMUEL BAKER</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed waterman and lighterman, and live at 80
<hi rend="smallCaps">A</hi>, Prince's Road, Bermondsey—I have been licensed seven years—I know Maltby—I never saw him navigating craft up the river; have seen him shifting barges alongside ships; that is part of a lighter-man's duty—he has rowed me ashore two or three times.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have seen him on a ship, not doing stevedore's work—he was not doing lighter-man's work when I saw him, he might have been doing it for all I saw—his father is a stevedore.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-92" type="surname" value="WALTER"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-92" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WALTER</persName> </hi>. I live at 64, West Street, Gravesend, I have been a licensed waterman and lighterman for 17 years—I know Maltby well, and I knew he was apprenticed to Henderson—I have seen him navigating the
<hi rend="italic">Moving Monarch</hi> at and below Gravesend since he was apprenticed—I have not seen him doing waterman's work.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. He navigated the
<hi rend="italic">Roving Monarch</hi> properly; that would teach him to row.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The
<hi rend="italic">Roving Monarch</hi> is his father's steam launch.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-93" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-93" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-93" type="surname" value="ELLIOT"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-93" type="given" value="BENJAMIN WILLIAM"/>BENJAMIN WILLIAM ELLIOT</persName> </hi>. I am a waterman and lighterman; I have been licensed for 17 years—I do not know who Maltby was apprenticed to, but on one or two occasions I have seen him going in and out Mill wall Dock, and on another occasion I saw him coming out of another dock navigating his father's steam launch—he said he was not licensed, but he was bound to the water—I have seen him dropping Westwood's barges, assisting with them in and out of the dock—that is part of a waterman's duty—he could not navigate, but only assist in</p>
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<p>navigating till he
<hi rend="italic">got</hi> his licence—there are plenty of apprentices who spend their time in public-house bars, and the stevedores do their work.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I don't approve of that—I am one of the persons who want to take the power out of the Watermen's Company—they prosecuted me on one occasion at the Mansion House when I resisted apprentices obtaining licences who had not served a portion of their time on the water—the officers turned me down the stairs of the Court, and I was prosecuted and fined 20s.—I never paid the fine—the Magistrate came to the conclusion there was a certain assault—I did resist the officers, but he made very strong remarks on the administration of the company—I have not renewed my licence since it expired in January, but I can work with impunity on the river without it—I complain they do not take steps—I wrote objecting to their giving licences to an apprentice who served all his time in his father's public-house bar, and alter that they gave the boy his licence as soon as the Master came from Australia.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> It is twelve years since I was prosecuted by the Watermen's Company.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-94" type="surname" value="SHANNON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-94" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHANNON</persName> </hi>. I have been a licensed waterman and lighterman between five and six years—I know Maltby—I did not know he was apprenticed in February, 1888—I have seen him in charge of the
<hi rend="italic">Roving Monarch</hi>) he navigated that properly—I saw him navigating it last Oxford and Cambridge Boat-race day, when there was a lot of boats, and he cleared under the stern of our inspector's boat and went through several others as carefully as I could do it—his master was with him, but Maltby was steering the launch and had sole charge of it for the time being—I saw him another time in Half Way Beach with a strong east wind blowing, and at other times carrying esparto grass.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There were 14 or 15 persons on the launch on the Boat-race day—I had a bit of a grievance with Inspector Showell of the Watermen's Company, he struck me in the eye and I was in the hospital for three days—I took no proceedings against him—I went away to sea after that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-433-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>434.
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<interp inst="def1-434-18900519" type="occupation" value="army major"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PHINEAS BURY</hi> </persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-434-offence-1 t18900519-name-96"/>Percival Robert Champion</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-97" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-97" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-97" type="surname" value="AVORY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-97" type="given" value="HORACE"/>MR. HORACE AVORY</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSERS. WILLIS</hi>, Q. C.,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUMBLETON</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-98" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT ERSKINE</persName> </hi>. I am a captain in the Militia, and am a member of the Junior United Service Club—Colonel Champion is also a member, also Major Bury and Capt. O'Dell—on the evening of the 27th March I was in the company of Col. Champion and his son from a quarter to ten to a quarter to eleven, and with Capt. O'Dell part of that time—I did not see Major Bury there at all—I know him—on the following morning, the 28th, this letter was brought to me by a servant of the club at my house, No.1, Stafford Place, where I was then lodging, it was in this envelope, sealed with the club seal—I opened it and read the letter—I do not know the writing—I showed it to Capt. O'Dell the same morning—he told me it could not be meant for him, and I then sent it on to Col. Champion.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Letter read:</hi> "Avoid the
<hi rend="italic">bounder</hi> you have been with all the evening,</p>
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<p>he is bad form, more or less a Fenian, probably more,
<hi rend="italic">toute la famille,</hi> the worst form.—A Friend—Thursday,")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Gross examined.</hi> I could not swear whether it was a quarter to ten or eleven when I went into the club that evening—I was with Col. Champion up to a quarter to two—his son was there all the time—Capt. O'Dell was in our company up to a about quarter to one—I think he came in shortly after I came in, he was most of the time in the smoking-room with me—I spent most of the time with Col. Champion in the smoking-room—there were other persons in the room—there was not a general conversation taking place in the room, we were all together, separate from everyone else, at one table, in the centre of the room—I was not talking to any other persons—I do not remember seeing the defendant at all that night—I did not know when I received this letter to whom it referred—I went straight off to Capt. O'Dell—I met him in the club and gave him the letter
<hi rend="italic">to</hi> see if it could apply to him—he read it—it did not apply
<hi rend="italic">to</hi> him—being in doubt to whom it applied, I sent it on to Col. Champion; that was about midday, between twelve and one—I did not think of the defendant as being the possible writer of the letter, the idea came into my head that it was someone else—I do not know that there are some persons in the club not having a very friendly feeling towards Col. Champion; there was not anyone whom I thought might have written it for that reason—I do not remember using the phrase that the letter contained nonsense, I am almost sure I did not call it a nonsensical letter—I will not swear I did not, I might have said so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">He-examined.</hi> At the time I received this letter I had never seen the defendant's writing—my suspicion as to somebody else was not aroused because of the writing, but by the expression "bounder"—I was at the Police-court, the defendant gave evidence there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-99" type="surname" value="CHAMPION"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-99" type="given" value="PERCIVAL ROBERT"/>PERCIVAL ROBERT CHAMPION</persName> </hi>. I am a retired lieut colonel in the army, and am a member of the Junior United Service Club—I resided permanently at Combermere, co. Cork, until I left about six months ago—that is my residence—I reside there with my wife and family—Major Bury occupies a place called Little Island, about three miles distant—I know him as a member of the club in London—I was not on visiting terms with him in Ireland—I knew him, and have known him for many years—on the 27th March last I was with Captain Erskine and my son in the club from about twenty minutes to ten till about a quarter to one, in the smoking-room, and after that in the supper-room from about half-past eleven till about a quarter to one, when we left—I saw Major Bury in the smoking-room, sitting on a sofa on the left-hand side between two pillows—to the best of my recollection he must have been there over an hour while I, Captain Erskine, and my son were sitting together—on the following day, the 28th, I received this letter at the club, sent to me by Captain Erskine, enclosed in an envelope, with a short letter—I read the letter—I understood it to refer to me—at that time I did not know Major Burr's writing, and had never seen it that I remember—my suspicions were directed to him, the very first thing that struck my attention was the French expression
<hi rend="italic">toute la famille,</hi> Because I knew Major Bury to be talked of as a man constantly using little brief French expressions, and also translating them—I had had occasion before this to write to Major Bury about a Captain Broadley, a mutual friend or acquaintance whom I had not seen in the club for some</p>
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<p>years; I was anxious to know if he had got well, so I thought this a good opportunity, and I wrote to Major Bury this letter, dated 29th March; received this reply from him—I compared it with the writing of the alleged libel, and the envelope, and I saw at once that the writing was the same—I then consulted my solicitors, I think the next day, and then I reported the matter to the club—I have myself heard the defendant use French phrases and translating them—in the winter of 1866 and 1867 I was on active service on the occasion of the Fenian rebellion—that was my only connection with Fenianism—I take the word "bounder" to mean a self-asserting, swaggering vulgarian; that is what I think it is generally understood to be, in clubs and in society in general.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am not a
<hi rend="italic">bounder</hi> that I know of; I leave it to public opinion—I say I thought the letter applied to me, but not on account of that word; that did not apply to me at all, any more than the word Fenian—I never was a Fenian or a Fenian sympathiser—I never took part in any rebel movement—I thought the letter applied to me, because was the only man of the party in the smoking-room to whom it could apply, and more than that I can swear that Major Bury was the only man in the smoking-room (for I took notice of everybody who was there) who could have known anything about my family—it was intended to apply to me, to destroy my reputation among my friends and in society—I have been a member of this club since 1877—I have been away from Combermere six or seven months; I am now living in town—I believe the defendant has been a member of the club about thirty years; I don't know much about him—I have of course heard other persons use French expressions; he is the only person who has translated French phrases in my presence—he has never visited me at Combermere—I have seen very little of him—we were not on visiting terms—we have never been thrown across each other to have a quarrel—when I saw the expression, "
<hi rend="italic">tout la famille</hi>," I thought it was Major Bury who had written the letter—I did not write to him about it; as a gentleman I should not be likely to make allusion to any man without being quite sure—I considered it was most insulting—"I heard when I made complaint to the club, that he denied writing it, and he also made a statement in Court—I took out a summons on the 24th April, which was heard on the 25th—when I compared the two letters I saw sufficient indications to induce me to go to my solicitors on the subject; there is an attempt to disguise the words, not the letters, that was the mistake.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I had been to my solicitors and had written to the committee long before I heard of the defendant's complaint to the committee, in fact I only heard of it the other day, after the Grand Jury met this Sessions—I heard it at the Police-court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-100" type="given" value="THOMAS JOHN"/>THOMAS JOHN O'DELL</persName> </hi>. I am a captain in the Army Service Corps, and am a member of the Junior United Service Club—I was there on the evening of 27th March; I came in about half-past eleven; Captain Champion and his son were sitting with Captain Erskine, and I joined them up to about a quarter to one—on the following day Captain Erskine brought mo this letter—I declined to appropriate it to myself, and handed it back to him—I have met the defendant casually in the club, just to bow to—I have never spoken to him—I am not married—the defendant</p>
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<p>is not acquainted with my family that I am aware of—no member of my family was present at the club that evening.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-101" type="surname" value="MOREY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-101" type="given" value="HERBERT"/>HERBERT MOREY</persName> </hi> Low. I am a member of the firm of Smith, Fawdon and Company, solicitors, and solicitors to Col, Champion in this matter—he placed this letter in my hands on 1st April, and on the 2nd I wrote to the defendant a letter, of which this is a copy—the original was not produced at the Police-court—notice to produce was given—I heard the defendant say at the Police-court that he had destroyed it. (
<hi rend="italic">The copy was read; it stated that instructions had hem given to take criminal proceedings</hi>)—I have received no answer—before writing I had compared the alleged libel with the letter from the defendant to Colonel Champion, and have done so since frequently.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I heard the defendant say, "I read one part of the solicitors' letter before tearing it up in a rage"—I forget at what point he said he tore it up—I believe he said he did not even remember the name of the solicitors at the bottom of the letter.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The words "criminal proceedings" occur at the very end of the letter, just above the signature.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-102" type="surname" value="GURRING"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-102" type="given" value="THOMAS HENRY"/>THOMAS HENRY GURRING</persName> </hi>. I live at 59, Holborn Viaduct—I have made handwriting a study—I have compared the letter and envelope addressed to Captain Erskine with the one to Colonel Champion, and I believe them to nave been decidedly written by the same person—the initials "J. U. S." on both envelopes appear to me identical—the "J" is of a very peculiar formation; the "C" in "Club "is something of the shape of an imperfect "O"—the "J" is very much the shape of the figure 7, and the "y" is similar, and the" f" is strikingly similar—I could point out other similarities.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The letter to Captain Erskine is in a slightly disguised hand in my opinion—I have only received these two documents for consideration—I have studied handwriting for about six or seven years—this is not my first appearance as a witness, by a great many—I have been a clerk in the Board of Trade—I have not studied under Chabot, Nether-clift, or Inglis, and have not been discredited yet.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I gave evidence at the police-court, no one on the defendant's behalf submitted any specimens of his handwriting to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no case to go to the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">the letter being a private one to Captain Erskine; that there was no publication as regarded the prosecutor. Captain Erskine having no authority to part with it, and had he not done so the matter would have dropped; and although it might give rise to a civil action, it was not the subject of a criminal prosecution. After hearing</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. AVORY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">would not stop the case, but, if necessary, would reserve the point.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-103" type="surname" value="BURY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-103" type="given" value="PHINEAS"/>PHINEAS BURY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">the Defendant</hi>). I have known Colonel Champion since I was a boy—we have never had any difference of opinion or quarrel—I knew Mrs. Champion and her father, we were very old friends—I have lived at Little Island all my life, and Mrs. Champion and her father lived at Combermere very many years—I am a retired captain in the army, with the rank of honorary major—I have been a member of this club over thirty-one years—I have been a member of its committee—on the night of 27th March I came to the club a little after 12; I went into</p>
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<p>the smoking-room for about ten minutes—I saw there Colonel Champion, Captain Erskine, and another gentleman, who I did not recognise—I was not for some considerable time in the smoking-room, I had been to the theatre—I went from the smoking-room into the card-room, stopped there a quarter of an hour perhaps, and then went away—I did not write this letter to Captain Erskine—"J. U. S," is the ordinary way of writing "Junior United Service"—I remember getting one Saturday a letter from Colonel Champion referring to Captain Broadley, I was just going out, I answered it at once—I first knew of an anonymous letter having been written two or three days after the evening of the 27th, from Captain Reed—I did not then know that my name was mixed up as being its writer—the next thing I heard was that Colonel Champion had said in the club that I had written it—I got a letter from a solicitor on Good Friday—I read part of it, and I noticed the words "dastardly" and "criminal proceedings "as soon as I looked at it—I felt very indignant and tore it up in a rage—I did not pee the names of the solicitors—I next heard that Colonel Champion had complained of me to the committee—I went and saw the secretary, and then sent a letter to the committee—I communicated further with the club—afterwards, on 11th April, I received a summons to attend at the police-court—I have never used French expressions in Colonel Champion's presence—I have conversed with him very slightly for the last few years, never in French—I have never
<hi rend="italic">interlarded</hi> my English with French when speaking to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was not educated in France; I have often been in France, not for long together—I have not been there practically since the days of the Empire—I speak French—I do not say I never use French expressions in the course of conversation; I did not in conversation with Colonel Champion—I do not habitually use French expressions—I rarely do unless I am talking to a foreigner—people I talk to every day never accuse me of talking French—I will not say I never use French expressions at the club—I know Colonel Champion's family very well, his father-in-law's family; his family I have not seen since they were little children—I have not visited them in Ireland—I do not know of his taking part in any political move or agitation—he exerted himself on behalf of the "Long Leaseholders' Association"—I sat down between the doors in the smoking-room on that night for a short time—I saw Captain Erskine was in Colonel Champion's company; they left the room in company, and I saw them in the supper-room together; they had not sat down—I presume they were in company when I left the club—I know Captain O'Dell just to speak to; we have never been introduced—I know nothing of his family—I had not the slightest reason for thinking Captain O'Dell was a
<hi rend="italic">bounder</hi> or a Fenian—I was at the club very frequently—I took a great interest in it—I do not know every member; there are a great many young members; the older members I know—I cannot say I notice what people associate together—when I wrote to Colonel Champion I did not know that he was making any accusation against me—I had not heard at that time that there was any complaint—I wrote this letter to Colonel Champion in
<hi rend="italic">my</hi> ordinary writing—I do not precisely know the meaning of the word
<hi rend="italic">bounder;</hi> I should think it meant a boisterous, blustering sort of gentleman, or probably the reverse of a gentleman—I think a gentleman is hardly a
<hi rend="italic">bounder</hi>—it is not complimentary to (all a man a
<hi rend="italic">bound»r</hi>—I don't think it is defamatory,.</p>
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<p>in a legal sense, to do so, but if not in a legal sense I think it is an expression calculated to bring a man into ridicule—I think that to say of an officer in the army that he is a Fenian, more or less, probably more, if calculated to bring him into odium and contempt—if he had that reputation in a club other members would avoid him—you asked me my definition of
<hi rend="italic">bounder</hi> at the police-court, and I said then it meant a man of bad form—I don't remember you calling my attention to the fact that the libel gave the same definition—I do not think the two expressions are used as correlative, but as two distinct accusations—to say of a man that he is bad form is hardly calculated to bring him into contempt—
<hi rend="italic">bounder</hi> is the worse expression, I think—it is an offensive expression—I heard it rumoured in the club before 2nd April that I was accused of being the author of the letter—I think I first heard that Colonel Champion was accusing me of being the author, on the Monday after the Thursday; I could not swear to it; it was about that date—when I received the solicitors' letter on Good Friday I had heard it rumoured in the club that Colonel Champion had accused me—I had not the least idea who the letter came from on Good Friday—I presume I gathered from the letter that I was being threatened with criminal proceedings——I swear I did not look and see who was so threatening me; I never regretted anything more than tearing up the letter, but I did do so—I had not the remotest idea what the criminal proceedings were for—I had an idea the letter referred to this libel, because I heard rumours going about—I knew the letter threatened me with proceedings in respect of this alleged libel—I have heard the draft of the letter read—the words, "criminal proceedings," are the last words in it—I don't know if there was a printed heading to the notepaper; I never saw the address; I tried to find out afterwards what it was, but I could not—I did not write to Colonel Champion, because I considered he ought to come to me and ask me if I wrote the letter—I did not say to Colonel Champion, "I am not the author of that letter; why do you threaten me?"—it never occurred to me to do that.(
<hi rend="italic">The Witness, at</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. AVORY'S</hi>
<hi rend="italic">request, here addressed an envelope,</hi>"
<hi rend="italic">Hon. A. Erskine, J. U. S. Club, S. W. "</hi>)—I never make an "r" such as is used in copper-plate writing that I am aware of—this is my letter to the committee, the "r" in "removed" does not look as if I altered it from one shape to another—I think there was no more ink in the pen and I wrote it again—I think the "r" in "removed" and that in the Erskine on the libellous envelope are slightly alike—there is a slight resemblance between the "J. U. S. Club" on the envelope addressed to Colonel Champion and that on the libellous envelope—I should be very sorry to swear that anybody in the club has been imitating my writing, but I think it must be the case—I have no suspicion of any individual who would be likely to do such a thing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I got the solicitors' letter on Good Friday—I had not heard before that that Colonel Champion was stating that I wrote the letter—I had heard gossipy rumours—I was not aware, from rumours or otherwise, when I got the letter on Good Friday, that Colonel Champion was charging me with being the author of the letter—I had not the slightest reason to call Colonel Champion a
<hi rend="italic">bounder,</hi> or more or less a Fenian, I never did so—I have courted inquiry into this matter before the club—I went into the box at the police-court.
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. AVORY</hi>. I am unconscious of having said that before I</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. I am accustomed to write with a quill pen.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LAWLESS</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-106" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH THORN</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's wife—we were married about twelve years ago, and lived together till April, 1889—then, owing to differences between us, we consented to live apart—since then the prisoner has threatened me—on 24th February he followed me in Wych-hampton Street, I took refuge in Mrs. Airds' house—he said, "I mean
<hi rend="italic">doing</hi> for you; I have left at home to-night what I have been carrying about loaded," he referred to a pistol—about midnight on Saturday, 15th March, I went into Mrs. Crotti's shop at Hoxton—I heard the prisoner's voice behind me making use of a most filthy expression; he told me to take that, and I felt something sharp go under my right shoulder from behind, and I fell down—I had not seen him at all that day, and I did not see him when I fell, I heard his voice—I remember being put into a cab, and I remember no more till I was at the Metropolitan Hospital—I was there five weeks and two days as an inpatient.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You did not follow me from a brothel, and ask me to give you the children's things—I did not take the earrings out of our girl's ears.</p>
<p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not see a knife—you went towards Wenlock Street and came back—I don't know if you were drunk or sober.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 73). I arrested the prisoner on this night on a charge of stabbing his wife—he said, "I did it with a skewer,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector G</hi>), I saw the prisoner at Hoxton Police-station when he was brought in at ten minutes to one a.m., on the 16th—I asked the constable what he was brought for, and the constable said for stabbing his wife in the back; I said, "Where is the prosecutrix?"—the prisoner said, "I am very sorry I did not kill her"—the constable said he stabbed her with a knife; the prisoner said, "No, I stabbed her with a flat pointed skewer"—when the charge was read he said, "It served her right"—he was very excited—I saw him searched, nothing was found.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-112" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BRYANT</persName> </hi>. I am house-surgeon at the Metropolitan Hospital-early on the morning of 16th March I saw the prosecutrix when she was brought in, suffering from a stab in the back about one and a half inches long and three inches deep, internally to the shoulder blade—I should say it was done with a knife—she was for five weeks an in-patient of the hospital—she is quite well now—it was not in itself a dangerous wound.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It is not true that she would have been well in a fortnight if we had not kept her there for five weeks to get a ease up for you.
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate:</hi> "I did not have a knife; it was done with a skewer; it is a scratch, not a wound,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner, in his defence, made many allegations against his wife, and he said he only stalled her once, not twice.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MRS. AIRDS</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I have known the prosecutrix ten years by sight, not so long to speak to—I have always known her to be a steady, hard-working, scrupulous woman in every respect—there is no truth in her husband's accusations.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">It was stated that the prisoner had-been summoned on previous occasions for threatening his wife—
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May list,</hi> 1890.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>439.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">VERNON VIVIAN</hi> (53)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-439-offence-1 t18900519-name-121"/>Eliza Grimes</persName>, and stealing a mantle and ten books.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-122" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-122" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA GRIMES</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, and live at the Victoria Dwellings, Clerkenwell Road—on 26th April I closed the house, and went to bed at twelve o'clock—one window had no fastening—I was awoke by a child at two o'clock, and both windows were safe then—my daughter awoke me at 4.35, and I found both windows open, and missed a miniature chest of drawers, and several articles from the window ledge, and a cloak and ten books—on May 9th my son, who is thirteen years old, called me, and I saw the prisoner in the yard; I said, "What is your business?"—he said, "I am a police constable from Scotland Yard, and have come in reference to a cloak and some books which have been stolen"—I said, "If you are a constable, perhaps you will show me your authority?"—he said, "I have none"—he was in plain clothes, and had an umbrella—I said, "If you have no authority I will call a constable, and if you can satisfy the constable that will do for me"—I called Mr. Sutton, a neighbour, who saw that he did not get away, and I called a constable; the prisoner repeated to him that he was a detective from Scotland Yard—I went to the station and charged him—these books (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are mine—the catch of the window which was fastened was pushed back, and there was a mark as of a screwdriver having been pushed in—I value the books at 8s., and the cloak at 3s.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-123" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-123" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-123" type="surname" value="MASON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-123" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID MASON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G R</hi> 25). About 7.30 p.m. on May 9th Mrs. Grimes called me to the Victoria Buildings, and I met the prisoner on the first balcony outside which leads into the dwellings—I said, "What are you doing here?"—he said, "lama constable from Scotland Yard"—I said, "Come outside, I will see about it; it is getting dark here"—when I got him outside he said, "You know me"—I said, "No, I don't; show me your authority"—he said, "I have none"—I said, "You will have to go to the station with me"—he went there and was charged—he gave his name first as White; he was asked his address, and said, "I won't give one"—he gave his address ten minutes afterwards, and the name of Vernon Vivian—in answer to the charge, he said he went there to make some inquiries respecting some books—fourteen keys and seventeen pawn-tickets, a knife, a book, and an umbrella were found on him (
<hi rend="italic">The wards of these keys had-been filed out</hi>)—Mrs. Grimes identified the book, the other property was found at his place.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-124" type="surname" value="ROBINSON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-124" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROBINSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant G</hi>). When the prisoner was charged, he said, "I shall not give you any trouble, I am living in the front parlour at 47, King's Cross Road"—I went there with Mason, searched the room, and found this album and ten books, which have been identified, also this mantle, which was in a chest of drawers—it is both a sleeping and living room—I showed them to the prisoner the next morning—he said, "I bought them of a boy who lives in Leather Lane, his name is Johnson, I never saw him before,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence:</hi> "I bought the things; I did not know they were stolen. A
<hi rend="italic">few</hi> days afterwards I heard from another boy in</p>
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<p>Leather Lane that they had been stolen, and I wanted to try and find out the truth; I was the worse for drink, and made a fool of myself. Had I had any idea they were stolen I would not have bought them; I took no care to put them away, because I believed they were not stolen; I kept them in my lodging openly; I picked up the keys,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">D. MASON</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). He was perfectly sober—I did not say to him, "You are drunk,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-439-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-439-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>**
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction at this Court on 11th September,</hi> 1882.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18900519-439-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-439-18900519 t18900519-439-punishment-23"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, May</hi> 22
<hi rend="italic">nd,</hi> 1890.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">He received a good character—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-440-18900519 t18900519-440-punishment-24"/>Six Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> He was again
<hi rend="italic">indicted</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">no evidence was offered</hi>
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<interp inst="t18900519-440-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MINNIE HANDLEY</hi> (34)</persName>
<rs id="t18900519-441-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-441-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-441-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="animalTheft"/>, Stealing on
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-441-offence-1 t18900519-cd-1"/>1st October, 1888</rs>, a dog, the property of
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-129" type="surname" value="LEADAM"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-129" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-129" type="occupation" value="barrister"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-441-offence-1 t18900519-name-129"/>Isaac Leadam</persName>, and on
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-441-offence-1 t18900519-cd-2"/>24th October, 1889</rs>, a dog, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-441-offence-1 t18900519-name-130"/>Annie Taylor</persName>;
<hi rend="italic">also,</hi> two other dogs, the property of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR.
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-133" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-133" type="given" value="PAUL"/>PAUL TAYLOR</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-134" type="surname" value="LEAKAM"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-134" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC LEADAM</persName> </hi>. I am a barrister, of 117, St. George's Square, S. W.—I had a dog, worth about £15—I lost him about two and a half years ago, about November 1, and next saw him about three weeks ago, at the Police-station, Portland Town—(the dog had been stolen before, and the man was convicted)—I hesitated a little, because the dog did not answer to his name—I then looked to see if he had a mark where he had been scalded, and took him out into the sunlight, and saw what appears to be the place (
<hi rend="italic">pointing it out to the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>), the hair does not grow properly there—I called him by another name, Captain, and he did not answer to it; he would only answer to the name of Zoo—this is a photograph of him (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Clements.</hi> You know he is not your dog, and if his muzzle was off he would not let you handle him. If he was let loose he would go to Mrs. Holland's, where I had him from.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I find on him the mark I looked for.
<hi rend="italic">Hundley.</hi> His coat has been clipped since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-135" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-135" type="surname" value="CRON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-135" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET CRON</persName> </hi>. I am in Mr. Leadam's service, and was so when the "dog was lost—I recognise him by his eves and by the mark on his back—I attended to him every day and washed him—I see the mark here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-136" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-136" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-136" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-136" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman S</hi> 210). On April 1st I found this dog at a stable at 201, Bentinck Mews, and took him to the station—he had no collar—the prisoner keeps dogs there; there were about fifteen there he was in custody then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-137" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PROCTOR</persName> </hi>. I am manager to the Shrewsbury and Talbot Coal Company, 8, Earl Street, Westminster—I lost a Yorkshire terrier from my yard—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I know Clements by seeing him—I saw</p>
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<p>him a few days before the dog was lost; he asked me to sell him—I said no, and he left—he saw the dog; I brought him down—the puppy teeth were not shed then, but they have gone now—I saw him next at Portland Town Police-station, and identified him—I would not take £10 for him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> You once lived in my neighbourhood—you called and saw me, and I brought the dog down to show you—I never went to your place about an Irish terrier which I had lost—I did lose one, but I did not go to the Rose and Shamrock to inquire about it; I sent a man, because my leg was broken and I could not
<hi rend="italic">go</hi>—a man brought a dog round which was not mine.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-138" type="surname" value="FERRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-138" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE FERRIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-Sergeant S</hi>). On Friday, April 25th, about 2.30, I saw a pony and trap draw up at No.1, Bentinck Mews, and Clements brought two boxes out, and assisted a man named Dee in putting them on the pony trap—Handley then came out of the stable, got on the trap, and drove off, but Barrett stopped the trap—I went to 1, Bentinck Mews, and said to Clements, "l am a police officer, I want
<hi rend="italic">to</hi> know how many dogs you have here"—he said, "One," and pointed to a white bull-terrier, which was close by—I said, "You have more than this"—Inspector Holland came, and we searched the house, and found thirteen dogs, all in a starving condition, and among them a Yorkshire terrier, claimed by Mr. Proctor—I took Clements to the station, and he was charged with being concerned with the female prisoner in having in their possession dogs supposed to be stolen—she said, "I know nothing about it"—she gave her address, 3, St. James Mews, Kensal Road; I could not find the house that evening, but I found it on the Monday, and found twenty-seven dogs there of all kinds, downstairs and upstairs, all in a starving condition—I saw some dog collars at Bentinck Mews, Taylor took possession of them—I found a Japanese dog in the loft with the others.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> You said there was only one dog in the place—you did not say; "There is a bull-terrier there, the others are upstairs"—you did not go up with us—there was not half a sack of bread there—I found a lot of haddocks' heads in a copper, which had to be stewed down—I did not say I wanted to get a conviction—I was not drunk, I was all day watching you—I did not rub my hands and say, "I have got you now, my boy"—I did not rifle your pockets; you gave me a receipted bill and a pawnticket—I did not keep you at the station several hours before charging you; you were charged within an hour—you were also charged with stealing a pony and cart, and you showed me a telegram with two sovereigns in it—there was not £3 3s. in it; you tore it up and threw it into the fire—I have got no receipt; I have never seen it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not say that I would get him convicted if I could, or anything like it—he was taken on Saturday, locked up on Sunday, and taken before the Magistrate on Monday—there was a boy in charge of the dogs, but there was no water and no food; their bones were protruding through their skins.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Handley.</hi> You did not see me put my hand in Clements' pocket at Marlborough Street Police court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-139" type="surname" value="HOLLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-139" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOLLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector S</hi>). I was with Sergeant Ferris when Mr. Proctor's Yorkshire terrier was found; I asked Clements to account</p>
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<p>for it—he said he bought the two terriers of Mr. Lee, a ret of Harlesdon, and gave 15s. for one and 30s. for another—he said at the station, "I cannot understand what it is all about, it is all a mistake."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-140" type="surname" value="LEE"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-140" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK LEE</persName> </hi>. I am an oyster salesman, of 114, Newington Butts—my father died on February 12th—he kept three Yorkshire terriers, one of which died, one was lost, and the third my mother sold direct to Mr. Simmerton. (
<hi rend="italic">Two Yorkshire terriers produced</hi>)—I cannot say whether either of those is the dog which was lost, but the one on this side very closely resembles the one my mother sold to Mr. Simmerton three weeks-after my father's death—I said at the Police-court, "I do not think it is the dog"; that was because the dog was somewhat heavier than the one produced.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> I know John Simmerton—I never saw you—I did not know all the dogs my father possessed, because he took in dogs for treatment—I saw him on an average once a week—he was not a dealer in dogs—I do not know of your buying any dogs of him—he gave you a puppy which you claimed as yours—my mother refused to have any dealings with you; she refused to see you, and Simmerton came, and she sold one dog to him for 15s. and another for 14s.—I have heard my father speak of you several times, but I can't say that he spoke favourably of you—you did not purchase the poodles that were on the premises at the time of my father's death.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> This is not a poodle; it is a Yorkshire terrier—Simmerton is a dog dealer; I do not know whether he is a friend of the prisoners; he called about the dogs, and bought the Yorkshire terrier of my mother—when I returned to town I heard that Simmerton and Clements had quarrelled, and my mother said she would not have anything to do with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-141" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-141" type="surname" value="TAVLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-141" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am married, and I live at 72, Lower Marsh, Lambeth—I was formerly in the service of Mrs. Caldecott, of New Burlington Street—she is dead—she left me a valuable Japanese dog which she had been offered 50 guineas for—on February 1, at 12 o'clock, I saw him safe in the area of 12, New Burlington Street, and did not see him again till I saw him at the station—his name is Chang, and he knew me at once when I addressed him by that name—on May 9 I picked this collar out at the station from several others as the one the dog was wearing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> The pug was lost some weeks before my mistress died, but it was in my possession, because I lived there—she gave it to me long before she died—she did not advertise it for sale to my knowledge—I had the key, and used to undo the collar—it will not fit the dog now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The dog is very much thinner now—I washed him every day—when I called him Chang he came up to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-142" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-142" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I found this collar at 1, Bentinck Mews, upstairs with several others—I took them to the station—it is in the same condition now; I have not brightened it up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-143" type="surname" value="BARBER"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-143" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BARBER</persName> </hi>. I live at 9, Queen Street, Westminster, and was formerly in the employ of Madame Caldecott at 12, New Burlington Street—I have not the slightest doubt that this is her dog Chang, but it is not half as stout as it was—I am nearly positive this is the chain collar he wore—I saw him every day, and cleaned and fed him.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> I believe I can swear to the collar—there was another black pug in the house, both were males—the dog was not advertised for sale in my time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-144" type="surname" value="HOLLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-144" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOLLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). On 2nd April I questioned Clements as to how he became possessed of the pug, he said, "I don't know where I got that"—he said nothing about paying a sovereign for it in Shoreditch—on 9th April the dog was with others at the station; Mrs. Taylor said, "There is my little Chang," and the dog jumped up, and seemed very pleased to see her—she said, "I can swear to him from a thousand"—she was shown a number of collars, she looked at them carefully, picked out this one, and said, "There is my chain,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> Some of the other collars were metal—you did not tell me that you bought the pug of a bootmaker who lived in Burton Terrace, Kingsland Road.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Handley.</hi> Mrs. Taylor said that she had a key to fit the collar, but a search was made in the place, and it has not been found—some things were taken away after the lady died—the police have not a key belonging to you which fits the collar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-145" type="surname" value="WATSON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-145" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WATSON</persName> </hi>. I am groom to Mr. Douglas Finney, of 76, Welbeck Street—on 11th February, in the evening, I took his two dogs out to exercise in the neighbourhood of Oxford Street—this bull-dog is one of them—it had a collar and muzzle on—I identify it because it has had its tail broken—also by its white throat and its face—I missed it in Berners Street, and saw it again on 28th April in Portland Town Police-station—I called it "Tiger" and he recognised his name—he is worth £20—he had on a white metal collar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-146" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-146" type="surname" value="DURHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-146" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DURHAM</persName> </hi>. I am a greengrocer, of 15, John Street, Portland Town—on 24th April Clements spoke to me in Bentinck Terrace, Begent's Park, and asked if I could take two small boxes to Waterloo Station—I said, "Yes"—he said, "What do you charge?"—I said, "Two shillings"—he said, "I am only a poor man, I will give you eighteenpence"—I agreed to take them; he did not tell me what they contained—I put two bags over them, and he drove
<hi rend="italic">to</hi> Waterloo Station—we then went to the Blackfriars Station of the L. C. and D. line, where he got out and made some inquiries, and I stayed in the cart—when he returned we went to Tooley Street, where he made further inquiries at a wharf—we then went to Irongate Wharf, and from there to St. Katherine's Wharf, where he got out and made inquiries, and said, "It is no go, I shall have to go home," and we returned to Bentinck Mews—he asked me to take him again next day; I said I would—he said, "Don't disappoint me;" next day, about 2.30, I went to the mews with the pony and cart, and the two prisoners put in the boxes—Clements said, "The woman will go with you to-day"—she drove, and after going fifty yards she was stopped by the police—I was taken to the station with her, but was not charged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-147" type="surname" value="BARRETT"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-147" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BARRETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective S</hi>). On 25th April, about. 2.30 p.m., I saw Handley driving a pony and costermonger's barrow in Albert Road—I stopped her, told her I was a police officer, and asked what she had in the cart—she said, "Dogs; I am driving them to the railway station. They are going to Havre. I am driving them for a gentleman who lives in the mews; I am driving because the man in the cart with me has only</p>
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<p>got one arm and cannot drive"—I found two boxes in the cart covered with sacks; one contained the brindled bull-dog and the other two foxterriers—I took her to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-148" type="surname" value="HOLLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-148" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOLLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). Handley was charged with Clements with stealing and receiving the dogs—she said, "It has nothing to do with me,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Clements stated that he was a man of unblemished character, in reply to which</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TAYLOR</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called the following witnesses</hi>:—</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-149" type="surname" value="STAMMERS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-149" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH STAMMERS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T</hi>). I have known Clements about twenty years—his general reputation is bad—he has always been looked upon as a receiver of dogs—he was pointed out to me by Cuthine, who is dead, as having had fourteen days for the unlawful possession of dogs—I know him as the associate of a burglar, Burdett, who has been convicted of dog-stealing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> I never knew you to steal a dog—you were convicted of cruelty to a dog, and had to pay a fine—when your dogs were seized a gentleman got his dog back—sixty-five dogs were seized at your place—I knew you in Fulham Palace Road—I knew nothing wrong of you there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-150" type="surname" value="SIDNEY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-150" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD SIDNEY</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor—I have known Clements two or three years in the neighbourhood of Marylebone—I first knew him when he brought an action against a man named Whitton for a dog which he said Whitton had taken from him and kept, and we were able to prove that he never had the dog—I defended another case where the man Samuels never had the dog—on 17th June, last year, Host an Irish terrier, and in the evening a coachman took me to Homer Street, and saw Clements (we always looked to Clements if a dog was lost); I said, "Have you got my dog?"—he said, "I don't know you"—I told him what the dog was, and he struck me and I struck him—I was charged before Mr. Cook, at Marylebone, who dismissed the case—this (
<hi rend="italic">a collar found at the mews</hi>) is the collar which was on my dog; only two persons in England have got them; I picked it out last night at the station; I can call the man who made it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clements.</hi> I have seen you outside the Burlington watching dogs—the first time I met you was outside Lord's—I can call two or three gentlemen who know you as well as I do—the collar is made in this way for sporting purposes; I positively swear it is mine—I am the only man who had one made like it; it is a small bull-dog collar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Clements, in his defence, stated that he received the poodle from Mrs. Holland, and went to St. Pancras Station to meet it; and put in a correspondence with the police of Manchester about it; that he bought the bull-dog for £3 of a coachman, who said he had him from his brother, and that the receipt was in the hands of the police, he called</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-151" type="surname" value="RADFORD"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-151" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN RADFORD</persName> </hi>. I work for Clements, attending to the dogs—this black poodle is one of the dogs I attended to—I know him by the name of Czar—I saw no mark on his back—I know that the dog came up by railway; I was present at the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known the two prisoners working together for nine months.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Handley.</hi> We were left alone in the place together; Clements bought and sold dogs, and had a good many.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Handley, in her defence of stated that she had nothing to do with the dogs except when she fed the puppies that Clements asked her to take the dogs to Waterloo Station, and she was taken to the station and had been three weeks in prison suffering for nothing.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CLEMENTS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-441-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HANDLEY</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18900519-441-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18900519-441-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-441-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>442.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MINNIE HANDLEY</hi> </persName>was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi>
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<interp inst="t18900519-442-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/> charged on two indictments with stealing dog-collars and muzzles, upon which no evidence was offered.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18900519-442-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<interp inst="t18900519-442-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>443.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM HAKLEY CLEMENTS</hi> </persName> was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18900519-443-offence-1 t18900519-name-154"/>Joseph Bates</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. P. TAYLOR</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOSEPH-BATES</hi>. I am a dairyman of Hendon—on March 28th I had a pony and cart, with my name and address on it, and two sets of harness in my stable, within 100 yards of the road—they were safe at 4 p.m. and gone at 5 next morning; the stable bolt had been pressed back with some sharp instrument—I have never seen the trap or harness since—I saw the pony on 29th April at Portland Town Green-yard in very bad condition—he was in good condition when I lost him—I value him at £14 and the harness at £4.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-155" type="surname" value="VICKERS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-155" type="given" value="LEVI"/>LEVI VICKERS</persName> </hi>. I am a milk carrier in Mr. Bates' employ—I saw his pony, cart, and harness safe in the stable at eight o'clock on 28th March, and locked the stable—on April 30 I saw the pony at the green-yard, and am certain it is Mr. Bates' pony.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-156" type="surname" value="SOUTHEY"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-156" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH SOUTHEY</persName> </hi>. I am a butcher of 30, Eaton Road, Hendon—I sold the pony to Mr. Bates about
<hi rend="italic">two</hi> years ago, and have no doubt it is the same—I had it in my possession six months.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-157" type="surname" value="KITCHEN"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-157" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD KITCHEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). Mr. Bates gave me a description of this pony and cart—I went to Hendon, and found a large padlock had been forced off the gate of a field, and the stable door had been forced.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-158" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-158" type="surname" value="HOLLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-158" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOLLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). On 25th April, about 2.30, I went to Bentinck Mews, St. John's Wood, and saw the prisoner and pony in a stable—I asked him to account for the possession of the pony—he said, "I have had it a long time; I bought it on the stones five or six months ago"—I said, "What do you mean by the stones?"—he said, "You know very well"—I did know, but I wanted him to tell me—I said, "You will have to give me a better explanation than that; I shall take you to the station and charge you"—at the station I asked him to give me any names, and I would send to any part of London for him to clear the matter up—he offered no further explanation—I received from him a ticket for some harness, but it was not the harness which was lost.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You did not say you bought the pony by auction, or that you had had it eight or nine months; you said five or six months.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-159" type="surname" value="CLARK"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-159" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CLARK</persName> </hi>. This bay cob is the prisoner's; he bought it at the end of September, on a Friday, and gave £8 guineas for it, and gave me 6d. to fetch it out; and he met me with a now halter, and tied the pony at the</p>
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<p>back of my cart—I said, "Shall I put this cob into the cart and try him?"—he said, "Just as you like"—that was the same pony as I saw on Monday in the possession of the police; I could pick him out of a hundred—I have a little boy five years old who can prove it, and my wife used it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-160" type="surname" value="RADCLIFF"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-160" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN RADCLIFF</persName> </hi>. I have seen the prisoner's pony here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I first saw it in September; I was there when he bought it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-161" type="surname" value="CLEMENTS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-161" type="given" value="HARVEY"/>HARVEY CLEMENTS</persName> </hi>, I have seen the pony in the hands of the police—I clipped it—I am the prisoner's nephew.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have not seen two other ponies in my uncle's possession; I have not been there—I have made no statement to Kitchen—I did not refuse to give evidence at the Police-court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-162" type="surname" value="WOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-162" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN WOOD</persName> </hi>. The prisoner came to me in October, and rented a stable to put a pony in; it was a brown, thick-set pony—I asked the policeman to allow me to look at it, but he would not—my son cleaned it and looked after it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. It was not a policeman who ordered me out, it was somebody in private clothes who was looking after the pony.
<hi rend="italic">Evidence in Reply.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-163" type="surname" value="KITCHEN"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-163" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD KITCHEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I was present when the prisoner's nephew examined the pony—I took him out by order of Mr. Cook, the Magistrate at Marylebone Police-court—he looked at it for some time and said, "This is not the pony, and I shall not say anything about it,"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner re-called</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-164" type="surname" value="CLEMENTS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-164" type="given" value="HARVEY"/>HARVEY CLEMENTS</persName> </hi>. What he says is false; he said, "Ain't this a good pony? "I neither said yes or no.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-165" type="surname" value="STERN"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-165" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE STERN</persName> </hi>. I am a milkman—I saw the pony yesterday in the hands of the police, and knew it directly as the pony the prisoner had before Christmas.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am not a particular friend of the prisoner's—he asked me to take in letters for him in the name of Austin, and he received them; my little boy has been riding the pony, and told me he had been riding the dog man's pony.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-166" type="surname" value="STERN"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-166" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR STERN</persName> </hi>. I nave seen the pony in the hands of the police—I have known it some time—I identify it as the one I used to ride.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I first knew the prisoner's name was Clements when I went to the post office to get a letter for him, and he gave the name of Clements; that was before Christmas, when I used to ride his pony—I told my father I had been to get a letter for Mr. Clements.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-167" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-167" type="surname" value="WOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-167" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN WOOD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>), I noticed that the pony had a little white on the centre of his forehead—I have not seen this pony. (
<hi rend="italic">The Witness was sent to examine the pony</hi>)—I identify it as the same pony which was in my stable in October and the beginning of November.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-168" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-168" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD KITCHEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The pony has a white star on his forehead—I took him to Hendon last Thursday week, and let him go down Victoria Road by himself, and he went into Mr. Bates' front garden and neighed, and Mrs. Bates came out and gave him a handful of sugar, he took it and licked her face—he was then taken round, and stopped at each customer's shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-169" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-169" type="surname" value="WOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-169" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN WOOD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>), I was with Kitchen when I identi
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<p>the pony just now—it is a male pony—they tried to puzzle me when I was down there—I am a respectable man, and never was before a judge in my life—I did not know the prisoner's name was Clements till he came to the Court—I booked the time when the pony went in and out—he was in my yard six weeks, and I saw him every day—he left about the middle of November—I had no other pony in my yard—I am a carman and contractor—I had no doubt of anything about the pony being stolen, or I should have taken notice of it. (
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">informed the witness that as he was swearing the pony was in his yard long before it was stolen he had better stand down.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-170" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-170" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-170" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN BATES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). We let the pony go as he liked, and he went
<hi rend="italic">to</hi> the mistress, who gave him a bit of sugar, and he licked her; he will take his round to my customers with anybody who goes with him—he was taken home on Saturday, and I have brought him here—I have had him back a week last Sunday—the Magistrate let me take him away, on my paying his expenses at the greenyard.</p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-443-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-443-18900519 t18900519-443-punishment-25"/>Nine Months' Hard Labour on each indictment, to run concurrently</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, May</hi> 22
<hi rend="italic">nd,</hi> 1890,
<hi rend="italic">and two following days.</hi> </p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">Surrey Case.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CHARLES MATHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GILL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUTTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-173" type="witnessName">
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T R</hi> 24). I am skilled in the making of models—I am acquainted with the premises known as Nevill's bakery—I have made this model of those premises, showing both the outside and inside of Nos. 1 and 2 bakeries, and their situation—it is made to scale, 8 feet to the inch, and is accurate—you approach the bakery from Milkwood Road.,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-174" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-174" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-174" type="surname" value="GEORGE"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-174" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GEORGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 432). I am accustomed to make plans—I made this plan of Nevill's bakery in Heron Road; it is to scale, 20 feet to the inch, and is correct; it shows the access to the premises from Lowden Road and Milkwood Road—the plan includes the whole premises—the bakeries Nos. 1, 2, and 3 appear on the plan—I have made another plan of the roads in the immediate neighbourhood, that is to a scale of 202 yards to the inch, and is correct—it shows Milkwood Road and Jessop Road; a small red mark indicates the prisoner's house in Jessop Road—you go through Jessop Road into Lowden Road and Heron Road, along Poplar "Walk, Denmark Hill, past Champion Hill, to the Fox-under—the Hill public-house—the distance between the bakery and the Fox-under the-Hill is 1 mile 157 yards, going by the Milkwood Road, Poplar Walk, and Denmark Hill; and by Jessop Road and Lowden Road it is 1 mile 87 yards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Going up Poplar Walk on the left is a large tennis ground, further up is Bailey's Nursery Gardens, and then two or three other fields—on the right is a blank fence, which you cannot go over—</p>
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<p>there is no thoroughfare and no houses near; it is rather a lonely part—there is a road leading to Dulwich Station—there is a lot of traffic along the road, foot passengers as well as horses and carts; it leads to Herne Hill Station and Camberwell Green—it would take about twenty-one minutes to walk from the works to the Fox-under-the-Hill.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-175" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-175" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-175" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MOURER</persName> </hi>. I live in Daniel's Road, Nunhead—I am a yard-boy employed at Nevill's bakery—I knew the deceased man, Thomas Furlonger, who was employed there as a packer; he was known as
<hi rend="italic">Nabob</hi>—on Saturday afternoon, 12th April, about twenty-five minutes past three, I went into No.1 furnace room to wash—I entered from the yard nearest the office and went down the passage under the ladder into the place where the furnaces are—I saw something at the other end, and on going up to it I saw it was
<hi rend="italic">Nabob</hi> lying on his back with his head towards the coke-hole and his feet towards the engineer's, Spurgin's box—the space between the box and the furnace is about two yards—the coke-hole was full of coke, nearly to the edge—he was lying with his head by the side of a heap of coke—he looked as if he was dead—I saw blood on his face—I ran out at once and gave an alarm, and Mr. Harding, the manager, sent me for a doctor—I got back almost immediately and before the doctor—Furlonger was still lying in the same place—I saw him lifted up, and saw this piece of iron lying by the side of his left arm, near the wall, he was almost lying on it; it is a furnace bar, part of the furnace fittings; they are generally put away in the store-room when they are done with; I don't remember seeing that one before, I see some knocking about sometimes—I had seen Furlonger that day, the last time was between one and two, about half-past one, when I was washing the fruit place—he was then walking over to No. 1 bakehouse—the fruit place is nearly opposite the coke-hole, underneath the clock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There are two coke-holes—you can get from No. 1 yard to either of them—I don't know whether the one near Milkwood Road was full of coke that day—the one near where Furlonger was found is separated from the furnace passage by a step; the coke comes up to the step, but not into the passage, the coke was nearly up to the ceiling, you could not see over it, a person on the left side of the yard could not see over it to Spurgin's box—there is a big shed just opposite No. 1 bakehouse—there is a large door in that shed leading into the middle yard—there are two open spaces there, nearly opposite the two entrances that lead into No. 1 bakery.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> There is a drawing-room opposite No. 1 bakery, almost opposite the door of the coke-hole, that is not always kept shut, I did not notice whether it was open or shut that day—anyone in No. 1 drawing-room looking out of the window could see people going to and fro No. 1 yard, and could watch them into No. 1 bakery.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-176" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-176" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-176" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS FAULKNER</persName> </hi>. I live at 5, Gladstone Place, Wandsworth Road—I am occasionally taken on as an odd man at Nevill's bakery—on Saturday, 12th April, I took some sweepings up to the sweepings-room—I should go through one open door leading to the loading shed on the ground floor, I should have to go up a ladder in the middle yard, and cross the bridge to the sweepings-room on the first floor—that was the way I went that morning at twenty-nine minutes to eleven—I fix the time with certainty; I have a reason for fixing it—as I was going into</p>
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<p>the sweepings-room I saw the prisoner come out of it—I knew him before; I worked in his gang—he said to me, "Don't make a mess, for I have done my room"—it was his duty to clean the room—I told him it was two minutes to drawing time; that means drawing a batch of bread—he said, "All right, I have only two steps to do," meaning two steps of the ladder—I then went and emptied my sweepings, and brought my tin down—I came down the ladder, I did not speak to him as I passed; he had to move on one side for me to get down—I then went away and saw him no more to speak to that morning—he was then in his working dress, his baker's dress—I next saw him when he was drawing his second oven in the same bakehouse—that was the sixth oven in the middle of No. 2 bakehouse—that must have been about ten minutes to eleven, it was my business to carry out the batch that he drew—the next time I saw him was down in the same bakehouse, about a quarter-past eleven, when he was dressed and downstairs—I did not stay with him at any time; we stop together when we are waiting for our money, I walked about; I do not
<hi rend="italic">go</hi> to the office for my money, being only an odd man—I think I was paid first—I did not see anything of him after I was paid; I was paid about ten minutes to twelve, as near as I could guess: that was the last time I remember seeing him that morning, he was then still in No. 1 bakehouse—he would go to the office to get his money; my foreman would bring me mine.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-177" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-177" type="given" value="WILLIAM SAMUEL"/>WILLIAM SAMUEL HARDING</persName> </hi>. I am the manager of Nevill's bakery in Milkwood Road, Herne Hill—the prisoner has been employed there as a baker for about ten years—Thomas Furlonger was about fifteen years in the service; he was about sixty-two years of age; he was very deaf—he was engaged as a baker, but was employed as a packer in No. 1 bakehouse—the prisoner was employed in No. 2—each of the men had a locker into which to put his things, their tools, or anything they required—they were generally kept in the passage leading into the furnace-room—we also kept for their accommodation different dressing-rooms in each of the three bakeries—they are not restricted entirely to the particular dressing-room, but it is the general custom—it is a dressing-room divided into three compartments, at the-corner of one of them some potatoes are stored—there is a dressing-room attached to No. 3 bakery, that would be for the use of the men engaged in No. 3 bakery; it is a long distance from the others—on Saturday the bakers usually leave work soon after twelve as a rule, after I have paid them; as near twelve as possible each Saturday—the other employees the last thing in the evening, when they come in at five or six o'clock—I pay the drivers when they present their tickets—the packers are paid the same time as the bakers—the bakers are paid at the window sides—they come individually to me to be paid—the head engineer pays the seven packers in one or other of the bake-houses—when the bakers are paid, there is no duty to keep them on the premises upon a Saturday unless they have a batch to clear—they change their clothing—that is the object of the dressing-room—on the 12th April I paid the bakers about ten minutes to 12—they come to the window outside—Howard stands outside, seeing me pay the men (
<hi rend="italic">The witness pointed out the position of the office and bakeries on the model</hi>)—I paid the prisoner thirty-two shillings, his standing wages—overtime is paid by the foreman—I cannot remember the coins with which I paid him—except about three minutes, when I left to go to the shed on the side of my office, I was in my office from a</p>
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<p>little before 12 till 1.30—three sides of the office are glass—I command a full view of No. 1 yard—I am able to see anyone who leaves the premises, going towards Milk wood Road—at 1.25 I saw the prisoner at the furthest bakehouse door; the fourth, next to the coke-hole; the coke door is the other side of the bakehouse—he opened the door, went in, and came out again immediately—going in there he would have access to the passage leading to the furnaces—he stood for a second, apparently considering what he was going to do, barely half a minute—I did not see which way he went, my attention was called off—Manerson, my head foreman, was with me; he could see the prisoner; he called my attention to him—he left the office at 1.30—between 11.50 and 1.25 I did not see him leave the premises—if he had, with the exception of three minutes, I must have seen him—I was away about 12,15 for those three minutes—I went to my private house at 1.30, and did not return till fourteen to fifteen minutes past three—about 3.25 Hales came to the office—first he ran past it—he returned with a policeman—he told me something, in consequence of which I followed him to No. 1 bakehouse—I entered by No. 1 door through No.1 passage—I went to the end of the furnaces—there is a box there—I saw the dead body of the deceased lying with his head towards the coke-hole and his feet towards the box—I saw this iron furnace bar by his side—it had been kept on the third or fourth furnace fronting my office—it was lying there all day—it had not been used that day; it was an old bar—I had not seen it that day—I go through two or three times a day—I cannot say when I saw it last, but I had seen it frequently—the dead man's hat was by his side, bent in, and blood on one side—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the hat in the condition in which it was found—there are three similar bars to this—they are used to try the coke—there are some back in the store—this is worn out—it was the only one there that day—a tobacco-box was lying near deceased, the feet by the engineer's box, and a pipe by his side, I think—his right trousers pocket was torn out about one and a quarter inch, sticking out from the trousers as if pulled out—there was a good deal of warmth left in the furnaces—there are eight furnaces and two coppers—we had been baking that morning—the man's head was within about nine inches or a foot of a heap of coke; about half a bushel of coke heaped up—I sent for Dr. Garnham—he came soon afterwards—I stayed in the furnace-room some time—about 5 o'clock, from something that reached me, I sent for the prisoner—he came to me in the furnace-room—the body was still there in that corner of the furnace-room—I said to him, "Why were you so late upon the premises to-day?"—he said, "To clear up" or "sweep up this sweepings-room"—(I found out since that he had stayed late on the Saturday previous) he came back about five minutes past two, it was said, to fetch his tobacco-pouch—sweeping up was within his ordinary duty—workmen do not have access to the premises after hours, but if a man left an article we could not stop him—I next said, "Do not be offended at what I am going to request you to do," at the same time making a request to the foreman which he did not hear, 11 Kindly turn out your pockets, and let me see what money you have in your possession," or "in your purse"—he took his purse from his pocket, and showed me what he had in it, 2s. 5d. or 2s. 6d.—I am not certain whether there was a two-shilling piece or two separate shillings, a threepenny-piece and two pennies—I sent a message to his wife—he</p>
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<p>did not hear my instructions—I said, "What money did you pay your wife out of your wages?"—he said, "32s. or 33s."—he then went away, and I left within a quarter of an hour—there are five clocks upon the promises—they are correctly shown upon the model—one is in No. 2 yard—the Loudon Road gate was shut up and the key in my pocket before I went in to dinner—the dinner hour is 1.30—the gate was locked about 1.27—it is always locked before I go to dinner—Grimsell, one of my junior clerks, locks it—he brought me the key—it is on my bunch—I had it in my possession at 1.30.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There are two gates in the Loudon Road, and two entrances in the Milk wood Road—there is one key to each lock—the Loudon Road gates are only used Mondays and Tuesdays—nothing went out of the Loudon Road gate, facing the office, on the Saturday; it was open to let in fresh air about 1.27—a gate in the Milk wood Road was open two or three times on Saturday to let vans out, but not kept open, and there is always a clerk in charge of it—at the back of the big entrance there is an entrance from the middle yard into the shed—I do my part of the bookkeeping in my office, entering the cash account of the day, and surveying what is going on—no one passed at 1.30—I do not enter who passes—I should take notice of a stranger—I should stop a man who was late and inquire—I should not watch a man unless I had any suspicion—if Manerson had not called my attention I might not have seen the prisoner—I should notice a man passing out of the Loudon Road gate, and another out of the Milkwood Road gates at the same time—there is a pigeon-hole in my shed towards the Milkwood Road on my left, as I am looking up the yard, which forms an outlook, and a small window that lifts up—I paid about sixty-six bakers on that Saturday—they come up in a line—they know the order—the foreman stands by the side after he has taken his own money—he is paid first of the gang—he waits, because he pays for the extra work—I cannot ear mark the coins—I paid the prisoner—the store-room contained building materials to repair the premises, old iron, and so forth—the apparatus is for cooking fruit—a brick place divided it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> If the second Loudon Road gate was opened on the Saturday it was locked again directly; I would not be certain whether the dung man was admitted at 6 a.m.—one of those gates is open every day—the Milkwood Road cart gate is always being opened and shut the whole day—it is open at four o'clock p.m. to admit the vans, and shut about six p.m.—Inspector Tunbridge took away a piece of coke like this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I could not identify it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. The front gate is always open, because it is the inlet to my office, from 5.30 a.m.—the cart gate is opened about 7 a.m. for a few minutes, to allow eight vans to go out, and then it would be open again between ten and eleven, and then shut; that is the Milkwood Road gate—the other gates were both locked, and I had the keys when I went away—the van gate in Milkwood Road was not usually open on Saturdays between two and four, unless vans leave; three vans were let out on the Saturday soon after two—the last time they were opened was shortly after four.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-178" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HOWARD</persName> </hi>. I am the foreman of No. 6 gang to which the prisoner belonged—I was present when Mr. Harding paid him his wages about 11.50 or 11.55—he received one sovereign, one half-sovereign, and</p>
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<p>two separate shillings—I afterwards went to No. 1 bakehouse, then to No. 2—in No. 2 I paid the prisoner for some overtime, 3s. 5d., with a florin and six threepenny-pieces—he said he had not change, and went away and brought back the penny change about 12.12—I told him if he saw Brown to send him to me as I was waiting to give him his overs—the prisoner left and went into the middle yard (No. 2) towards the van yard and the dressing-room—I saw him go up the steps on to the bridge which leads to the dressing-room—his work was over—he was dressed for home.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I cannot say whether all the bakers were present; I was at the window when they were paid—I was paid before Gorrie, Clifford after Gorrie, 29s.—no man was paid more than 30s. on that day
<hi rend="italic">barring</hi> Gorrie and myself—I swear Clifford was not paid in two half-sovereigns, one on the other—I saw him take it off the desk—I generally notice the coins given, because there may be a coin short or over—Mr. Harding called my attention to the coin on the Monday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined,</hi> I nave no doubt about the coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-179" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am a baker of 18, Lewis Road, Loughborough Junction, employed at Nevill's—I was paid about twelve o'clock on this Saturday, about the same time as the prisoner; I was in the same gang—I had not changed my clothes—I went to change in No. 1 dressingroom—the prisoner came in—he said, "Charlie," meaning "Charles Howard," "is waiting to give you the overtime money"—I had finished dressing, all but lacing up my boots—I went to No. 2 bakehouse and was paid—whilst putting some things in my locker, next the prisoner's locker, the prisoner came in—I left directly afterwards No. 2 bakehouse—that was about 12.15—it was 12.20 when I got to the "Milkwood," the clock was five minutes fast—that was the last I saw of the prisoner—I left alone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was not examined before the Magistrate nor the Coroner—I was sent for here—Inspector Tunbridge toot my statement about eleven o'clock—I do not remember seeing Weston or Heywood before I went out of the bakery.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-180" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH SUCKLING</persName> </hi>. I am a stoker at Nevill's—I assist Spurgin—I assisted him to pay the packers at No. 1 bakehouse shortly after twelve—I paid Furlonger £1 3s. and 1s. 3d. overtime; it was either a sovereign or two half-sovereigns; I forget the other coins—Spurgin deducted one shilling owing to him for tea and milk—he owed me twopence, and I took a threepenny-piece and gave him a penny—then I wont to No. 2 bakehouse to pay the packers—the prisoner passed me in the furnace-room—he had come along the passage near No. 3—I said, "What is your game?"—he said, "I have lost my can"—I was nearer No. 1—he seemed to be looking along the furnaces—he passed up into No. 2 bakehouse through the passage nearer to No. 1—that is the last I saw of him—that was about 12.20—I am not aware of any business he had in the furnace-room—the ovens had all been drawn.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The men keep their cans in the furnace-room only when they have tea in—they put their empty cans in their boxes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. The prisoner was looking along the brickwork—that is four feet above the floor—I have seen several pieces of iron like this in the furnaces—we use them in the furnaces—I do not remember seeing this particular bar.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-181" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-181" type="given" value="FREDERICK HENRY"/>FREDERICK HENRY GOODYEAR</persName> </hi>. I am a foreman at Nevill's—on Easter Tuesday, 8th April, the prisoner asked me to lend him ten shillings—I said I had not got it—he said, "Could you get it for me?"—I said I could—I got it from the oilman Collins—the prisoner said if I could get him ten shillings he would give me twelve shillings on the Saturday—I had to pay tenpence for the loan—on Saturday, 12th, I saw the prisoner in the yard about 12.15—he said, "If I give you twelve shillings that will be right?"—I said, "Yes"—he gave me a sovereign, and I gave him eight shillings out—I saw no more of him—I left the yard—I was at the Bakers' Club about 8.30 or 8.40 that evening—the prisoner came in about nine or a little after—the club is held at the Angel Tavern, Brixton Road—in my presence he paid his subscription, 2s. 2d.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He owed me 7s. 6d. as well as the 10s.—if I had lost it I should have to pay it—Collins had to pay it at the end of the week—the prisoner would not have been turned out of the club
<hi rend="italic">it</hi> he had not paid the 2s. on the Saturday—it might have stood over another week.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined,</hi> He was four weeks in arrear—the members can pay weekly, monthly, or quarterly—sometimes the prisoner would let it run three weeks or longer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-182" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-182" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-182" type="given" value="EDWARD JOHN"/>EDWARD JOHN COLLINS</persName> </hi>. I live at 87, Milkwood Road—I assist my father as oilman—I have lent money to the prisoner; on Easter Monday I lent him 2s., and on the Wednesday or Thursday of the same week 1s.—on Saturday, 12th, I went to No. 1 bakehouse at the works, between 11.30 and 12—I usually go the works about that time—I remained in No. 1 bakehouse till seven minutes to one—the prisoner came in at the door furthest from the Milkwood Road about 12.30—I saw him stand there—not long, I should not think a minute, or more than a minute—I did not see where he went—at seven minutes to one I went to No. 2 bakehouse—I went to the prisoner's box at the end of passage furthest from No. 1—I tried to lift the lid—it was locked—I went back towards No. 1—I saw the prisoner coming across the bridge from No. 1 yard, nearest to No. 2 bakehouse—he was coming from the dressing room—he came down the ladder—I went into No. 1 bakehouse—he followed me in—he said, "Hulloa, John," or something, I do not remember what, and paid me 3s. 3d.—that was about five minutes to one—I left him in No. 1 bakehouse, near the Milkwood Road end—I went to No. 2 again—I saw Frank Harding the packer—George Symes came in—"
<hi rend="italic">George</hi> the packer "we call him—he stayed ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I came out alone, and left the bakery—that day I was paid by Goodyear the loans made to and through him earlier in the week—over a sovereign, I think, £1 0s. 9d.—I do not remember the coins.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Goodyear was to have 1s. 2d. for the loan of 10s.—I took 10d.—there was a clock opposite me—I guess as 'near as I can remember the time—I was about three-quarters of an hour in No. 1 bakehouse before I saw Goodyear—I will not swear it was not 12.40 when this man repaid me—I should not think it was so early—the first I was asked about this was Mr. Harding sent for me on Monday morning, and asked if I remember seeing Gorrie—no constable had sent for me—I made no written statement to Mr. Harding—an inspector came on Wednesday, and took down my statement—I went to "the prisoner's</p>
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<p>locker to find out if he had gone; if locked, that would have shown he was gone or going—I could not recall when I looked at the clock—I went out to hare a drink at the Milkwood Tavern about 1.15—I could not say the time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Reexamined.</hi> It would take me about two minutes to go to the Milkwood Tavern—the best of my memory is, when I went to the Milkwood Tavern it was over a quarter-past one—I am certain it was after I tried the prisoner's locker I saw him coming over the bridge, and that he paid me in the bakehouse—I had come from Clapham—I cannot say what time exactly I left Clapham; it was between eleven and twelve when I left the shop; it is only a few minutes' walk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I did not call the prisoner When I looked up and saw him, because there were other men I wanted as well—I make a regular Saturday visit—I did not lend to all; I lent to anybody I was almost sure of getting it back—I could not tell when each man received his wages—they come to me when they have received them—I was looking up the bakehouse—I could not be oil looking at the dock, because there was one in front.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. I stay on Saturdays up to from 1.15 to sometimes 1.40 or 1.45, not so late as three—I left at 1.15 that Saturday—the men are generally going by 1.30, not all, some are there—all the bakers are away then—I wait for the last chance of getting my money.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-183" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-183" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-183" type="surname" value="JAGO"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-183" type="given" value="WILLIAM THOMAS"/>WILLIAM THOMAS JAGO</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer—on 12th April I was helping Roland, a bricklayer, at Nevill's—I went to dinner at twelve at my house, five minutes' walk—we are-allowed an hour for dinner—I was Working in the loose box yard at the dung-pit wall—I came from dinner at 12.55—I went through the first door nearest the office into No. 1 Bakery, through the passage and the furnace-room, to get into the storeroom—I took my coat off, picked up a bag of sand or cement, and came out into the furnace-room with my bag—I saw Gorrie come from the passage from the back, and turn into No. 3 furnace-room; it was the nearest passage from the office between Nos. 2 and 3 furnaces—I was fourteen to sixteen feet from him—I said, "Halloa, Jim, ain't you gone yet?"—I knew him working there as a baker—he said, "No, not yet"—he went up the furnace-room towards No. 8 furnace—I went through the passage out into No. 1 yard, and through into the middle yard back to my work—I stayed at my work three, or four, or five minutes, and went back to the storeroom for sand or cement—I saw no one there then—I went back to my work—I returned to the store between 2.40 and 2.45, when we were clearing up—I went the same way—I went back again—I had a bag on my back, and my attention was not directed to the furnace-room; I did not look—I saw Gorrie as near three minutes to one as possible.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> A person looking from the Milkwood Road could see me crossing the yard with my bag—Roland did not go to the store-room that day—I was in my working clothes—the police did not come to me till Sunday, 13th—Mr. Tunbridge spoke to me on the Wednesday evening; he asked me what time I had been in the works—I told him 12.55—the furnace-room is lighted by swinging lamps in the roof.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-184" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-184" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-184" type="surname" value="TUBBS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-184" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY TUBBS</persName> </hi>. I am a housekeeper at Nevill's—I had lent Furlonger threepence—at 12.45 on this Saturday he came to me in the stable and paid me; that stable faces No. 2 bakehouse—I then went to the office to</p>
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<p>get my pay, and returned to the stable—I saw Gorrie in No. 2 bakehouse, standing at the corner of a trough where they make dough, tying his basin up which he brought his food in, in a handkerchief—passing him I said, "What are you hanging about here for, Dan?"—he said, "I am back after my basin"—I walked into the furnace-room, and I saw no more of him—I got a broom for my stable from No. 2 bakehouse; that was at one o'clock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I cannot read or write—I can tell the time; it is eight minutes past four now—Mr. Harding first spoke to me about this affair on the Saturday; he asked me if I had seen anybody about the place—I told him I had seen Gorrie—I saw Inspector Tunbridge on the Sunday I was not detained.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> There is a clock opposite the bakehouse.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-185" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-185" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-185" type="surname" value="DANIELS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-185" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED DANIELS</persName> </hi>. I am a washer at Nevill's—on 12th April I went through the dressing-room to get some potatoes to take them to the oven to bake; that was 1.10—I saw the prisoner in the dressing-room, sitting up against the window on the form, reading a newspaper—he was washed and dressed—looking up from the newspaper, he could see into the yard—I said, "Dan, I am surprised at seeing you here, seeing the things that hare been lost, and if there is anything missing they will blame you for it"—he said, "Oh, no, they won't"—I went into the potato-room, got my potatoes, and went down by the ladder into the middle of the yard—I left him at the window; I cannot say still reading, but in the same position—that window would be almost opposite the door of the cokestore—I saw Furlonger between 1.40 and 1.45 in the bread shed, called the big shed; he was brushing the window ledges inside while I was walking through—I left him there; that was the last I saw of him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-186" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-186" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-186" type="surname" value="HAYES"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-186" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HAYES</persName> </hi>. I live at 26, Dean's Buildings, Walworth—lama fruitman at Nevill's—on 12th April I was employed in the middle shed, loading vans; it is the left hand of the big shed, you can go through the door of the big one, and it brings you out facing the middle one—I finished loading from 1.20 to 1.30 about, I did not particularly notice the time—then I went to wash myself-in No. 2 bakehouse, in the pail—while wiping myself, Gorrie came in at the top door facing me, and about twelve feet from where I stood, nearest No. 1 bakehouse—I said, "Halloa! I thought you had been home and had had your dinner by this time"—he said he had come back for his tobacco-pouch—he went out at No. 3 door, and I saw him again at the bottom, against No. door, about three feet from it, when I had wiped myself; he was with Wilson—I finished wiping, went up to dress, and straight out in the yard—I saw no more of him—I left the works about 1.35—it was 1.40 when I got to the Green Man, about five minutes' walk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-187" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-187" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-187" type="surname" value="WILSON"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-187" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID WILSON</persName> </hi>. I am a baker, employed in No. 2 bakehouse—on the day of the murder I had been loading the vans from 5 a.m.; at 1.15 I went to wash in the yard, and in the bakehouse to wipe myself—as I left I met the prisoner coming in at the third door as I was going out—dressing would take me five or ten minutes—I asked him what he was doing—I said, "Halloa, Dan, not gone yet?"—he said, "No, I have come back for my saucer"—I told him I had put it in the trough, and went and got it for him and put it into his hand—the saucer was wrapped up in the handkerchief which he brought in over night with his food in</p>
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<p>—I had put it under the trough when I went in to wash, because he might lose it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-188" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-188" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-188" type="surname" value="HITCHINGS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-188" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HITCHINGS</persName> </hi>. I live at 161, Mayall Road, Brixton—I am a jobber and odd man at Nevill's—on 12th April I went into the furnace-room at No. 1 bakery to wash about 1.15—I did not see the prisoner there—I went towards No. 2 yard—I met the prisoner in No. 3 yard, going towards No. 2 bakery; that would be at the Loudon Road end—as I passed him, I asked him what he was doing there—he said he had been out and forgot something and had come back; he went from No. 2 shed to No. 1 bakehouse—I went and found my coat in No. 3 shed, and went to No. 1 bakehouse and saw him again standing inside—I had seen him
<hi rend="italic">go</hi> round the corner; that was in about five minutes—I went in No. 4 door, the one nearest No. 2 bakehouse and nearest the coke-hole; he asked me if I had seen "Titchie," the head foreman—that was Manerson—I went there for some tea and sugar which I had left on the window inside—I told him, "In the office with Mr. Harding"—I went into the dressing-room, and he walked towards the office; we left together—I met him in the Brixton Road in the evening; in the bakehouse he turned to the door furthest from me—it would take me about five minutes to get my coat and come back—I talked with the prisoner two or three minutes; the conversation in No. 1 bakehouse took place between 1.20 and 1.25—I saw him in the evening about 8.15; he was going to his club—he said, "Have you heard of the murder of
<hi rend="italic">Nabob?</hi>"—a man had previously told me someone had been murdered or hurt at the bakery—I had not heard who it was—I said I had heard someone had been hurt or murdered, but I did not take any notice of them—he said, "I am sure it is right, for I have seen Mm, his head lies towards the coke-hole and his feet towards Spurgin's box"—I walked on down to the club, and he and his wife followed; he was with his wife then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He did not tell me Mr. Harding had questioned him at five, while the dead man was before him; he told me Mr. Harding had sent for him—I could not swear to five minutes; when I saw him walking towards the Milkwood Road, it might have been 1.20 or 1.25—I was examined by the police on 13th April—I was brought to the police-station about twelve and kept till just upon two o'clock the next morning; five were there: Sparks, Balls, Hales, Sharville and myself—I made my statement after we got to the station; Harding and Fox were present—Fox read Gorrie's statement some two hours after mine was made—I could not say if it was more; the others were not in the room when Gorrie's statement was read—I was questioned by Sergeant Fox—he did not ask me if Gorrie was out of the works from 1.20 to 1.30; Fox asked if Gorrie saw me when he came back in the dressing-room for his tobacco-box, and I said it was false, because I had not used the dressingroom—that was asked between twelve and one o'clock; after I had made my statement and said that was false about Gorrie, I was allowed to join the others—when I joined the others they were taken one by one to Inspector Tunbridge—we did not converse about what had taken place; there were several detectives there, and we did not care to speak in their presence; three or four made statements before me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined,</hi> I was not with the prisoner on any of the bridges on that Saturday—it is not true that we both went together to the dressingroom, nor were we together there—nor that he left me there, or in any</p>
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<p>dressing-room that day—nor that I told the prisoner I had finished work and was going to the dressing-room to change—the prisoner did not tell me he had come back to look for his tobacco-pouch, nor that we found it in a bundle of working clothes—he did not tell me he had found his tobacco-pouch—nothing of that kind happened.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-189" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-189" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-189" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK SHARVILLE</persName> </hi>. I am a packer at Nevill's—I was working on Saturday, April 12, at No. 1 bakehouse—I took a broom across No. 2 yard at 1.30, where I saw Harding and George Symes—on their speaking to me I looked and saw Gorrie going into No. 1 bakehouse, the fourth door, next the coke-hole—I saw no more of him—I saw the old man go over the bridge in No. 2 yard—I was standing with two other packers—he had been to take his sweepings up, and was coming back—he went over to No. 1 yard, passing No. 1 dressing-room—I last saw him in the furnace-room—I went to No. 1 bakery at twenty minutes to two—leaving the packers; I went alone—when I got back I went down into the furnace-room at No. 4 door, passing through the passage nearest the yard—I had been there about five minutes when Furlonger came down there to wash—he washed the same time as I did, he at one end and I the other—I did not go nearer to him—I went out by No. 1 door at 1.55—Furlonger was then in the furnace-room wiping himself on the towel, sitting on Spurgin's box.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-190" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-190" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-190" type="surname" value="HARDING"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-190" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK HARDING</persName> </hi>. I was a baker employed at Nevill's on 12th April—I saw the prisoner that day—I remember Sharville, Symes and I being in the middle yard—I saw the prisoner going into No. 1 bakery some time before that—I saw him when we three were together go into bakehouse No. 1, near the coke-hole door, No. 4 door—I saw him through No. 1 shed, the big shed, opposite No. 2 bakery, through the windows; just against the ladder—we three looked through two windows—they were shut—we told one another of it like—I saw the prisoner again at 1.50—I was then in No. 2 shed—he went up the ladder in No. 2 yard leading to the bridge—he turned to the right towards the sweepings-room—he went in—that is the last I saw of him—I left the works about 1.55—we left Furlonger about 1.50 in No. 2 bakehouse, the furnace-room—that was after I had seen the prisoner go up into No. 2 furnace-room, where we left the old chap—Symes went with me—we were in No. 2 furnace-room when we saw the old man—he was there before we went in, and we left him there—we went in to finish the shed and go in to wash—the old man dressed there—he had only his hat and coat to put on—it would only take half a minute to
<hi rend="italic">get</hi> from the shed to the furnace-room—he washed in No. 1.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I went to the Police-station alone about a quarter-past eight on the Sunday evening, and met another man there—the inspector took down my statement, and asked me questions—he read over Goodyear's statement to me—we were released at 2.20 the next morning—Tunbridge read Gorrie's statement; he asked me if it was true—I cannot say what I said—Tunbridge has not Spoken to me to-day—I left oft work at 8.30 this morning—we were late because we have to clear the shed after all is done on Saturdays—I am a packer, not a baker.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-191" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-191" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-191" type="surname" value="SYMES"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-191" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SYMES</persName> </hi>. I am a packer—I was employed at Nevill's on April 12th—Frank Harding and I were packing bread from No. 2 bakehouse in the shed in the middle yard—I saw the prisoner three or four times in No. 2 bakehouse between twelve and one, doing nothing particular—I</p>
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<p>had to go through it—I left the firm at 1.55—I remember coming out of No. 2 bread shed into the yard—I stood there with Sharville and Harding—Sharville drew my attention to Gorrie going into No. 1 bakehouse—it was the last door up the yard—I saw him through the windows of No. 1 shed—he came out again immediately, and went to No. 2 bakehouse—he came out almost immediately—he then went up the ladder, crossed the bridge over to No. 3 shed, over the dressing-room; he would get to the sweepings-room first, through which he would get access to No. 2 shed; not through the lavatory and office, but through the sack-room and along the passage—that was about 1.45; I did not notice the time till I left the yard—then I went and changed my clothes in No. 2 furnace-room, and then left the yard—five or ten minutes elapsed between seeing the prisoner
<hi rend="italic">go</hi> in the direction I have mentioned and going down into the yard—the old man came into No. 2 furnace-room to dress just before I left—when I left he had his coat and hat to put on—I was not examined before the Magistrate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. I could not say how many were in the works about that time; they are so scattered—on Saturday I come away at two generally—I was not asked what money I had on Saturday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. My proof has been taken since I have been here—I was not called before the Magistrate or Coroner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-192" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18900519-name-192" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-192" type="surname" value="BALLS"/>
<interp inst="t18900519-name-192" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BALLS</persName> </hi>. I am a packer at Nevill's—on 12th April, a little before one, Furlonger paid me sixpence which he had borrowed—I saw him in No. 1 shed about 1.30, helping to pick up a heap of sweepings and brush the windows, that is, sweep the flour off the windows—he would help all three of us sweep off the flour—directly after that I went into No. 1 furnace-room straight from the bakehouse, through the bottom door No. 2 passage, the door nearest the stable—I washed at No. 2 end, near No. 7 furnace; No. 2 passage, the passage nearest the bakehouse, I went down—I was alone—I walked up No. 1 passage to the other end, sat down, and whilst changing my boots I saw Gorrie—No. 1 end is nearest the office—Gorrie came in by No. 1 passage, the passage nearest the office—he went straight through the furnace-room, leaving it by No. 2 passage, up to No. 2 bakehouse—he walked a brisk pace, and stopped for nothing—I had been in that furnace-room, dusting the furnaces, from soon after eleven till about 11.40, pretty near drawing time—there are eight furnaces, No. 1 being nearest the office, the right-hand side No. 1 passage?coming down—I saw this apparatus bar lying on No. 3 furnace; it had laid there for weeks to my knowledge—it had been used by the engineer to knock the pipes, to start the valves—it was left under the pipe that bent over the furnace—I
<hi rend="italic">drawed</hi> it from under the pipe, because the thick end fits the pipe—I put it in its place to make tidy the top of the furnace; that was the last time I saw it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There are three: engineers in No. 1 bakery—I made a statement on the Saturday night at Camberwell—Inspector James came tome—I made Another statement on the Sunday night at Peckham; Inspector Tunbridge wrote it down on the Sunday—I think it was written down on the Saturday—it must have been about 12 p.m. on Sunday when they wrote my statement—I left the station about 1.80—I believe seven of us were there—Gorrie was separate from us—his statement was not read over by Tunbridge—I cannot recollect it—I was told he had made a statement—I do not remember by whom, nor what</p>
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<p>was said about it—Gorrie was not in my company—the men said the police had got Gorrie there—I went to the station about 9 p.m.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> We all made statements separately—we were called up by James, and after each statement was made came down again—Gorrie was also questioned by himself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18900519-name-193" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-193" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED SPURGIN</persName> </hi>. I am engineer at Nevill's—I have a box in the furnace-room of No. 1 bakehouse, in the corner nearest No. 2 bakehouse—it had been there for years—I knew Furlonger—I put some dirty towels on my box on Saturday, to take home to wash; that had been done for years—he left about 2 o'clock as a rule—I last saw him at 12.20 on this Saturday; he was drawing No. 6 furnace, in No. 1 furnace-room—he was paid at No. 2, about 12.5 or 12.10—I was present—he owed me one shilling—I deducted it—the money was handed to Suckling, and I took one shilling from Suckling's hand—I mean he was paid in No. 1 furnace-room by Suckling, the foreman—I remained there till 12.20—I left Furlonger at No. 6 furnace—that was the last time I saw him alive—I put the towels on the box about 11.50.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. These towels remained there a week—they were found where I left them—they were taken to my house to be washed—I saw them there when Mr. Harding sent for me later in the same day, about 4.30—they had been undone; the policeman had looked at them.</p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-194" type="given" value="JOHN WILLIAM"/>JOHN WILLIAM BLOSS</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to my father, William Bloss, tobacconist, 93, Milk wood Road, near Nevill's, a couple of minutes' walk between the bakery and the Milkwood Tavern—the prisoner owed me about a shilling on Saturday—he came to the shop between one and two, about dinner-time, which is generally about 1.15—I could not say whether I had had dinner or not—I take about half an hour to dine—his face was red—I said, "Have you been running?"—he said, "Yes, I have," and "I shan't want any more tobacco just now"—he paid me one shilling and left the shop—he was with me about a minute—I did not see which way he went—he lives in Jessop Road, in an opposite direction from the works to my shop—the same Saturday night he came to the shop about eleven o'clock—he had twopennyworth of tobacco; he did not pay for that.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My shop is about three or four doors from the bakery, and, passing from Loughborough Junction towards Herne Hill, you pass the shop and then the bakery.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I have nothing to fix the hour by—I cannot say when I heard of the murder—I know there was a commotion up the road—I think I first heard of it when Frank Harding came in the shop—I do not know the time—in the afternoon, about three, after dinner—I am sure I did not see the prisoner again before the evening—he brought up the subject of the murder with some remark; I could not say what—I understood he had fallen down—I cannot remember who said so; there were such a lot of people in and out—I heard that in the afternoon—I mentioned that to the prisoner in the evening—I said I understood he had fallen down—he said, "No, I think it was foul play"—I did not ask particulars—I have never been in the bakery, only two or three weeks ago, when I went to see the manager, when Inspector Tunbridge wanted me to go to have my evidence taken—I-had not the curiosity to ask the prisoner whether he had left work, or what time it was—I knew the old man was dead—I knew him very well—I was in the shop by myself, and</p>
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<p>there were others to attend to—they talked about the murder too—I asked whether he was murdered in or out of the bakery, no more.</p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-195" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE GRIMSELL</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk, employed at Nevill's—on Saturday, 12th April, I was employed in the office and about the works until twelve at noon—I went to dinner at that time, and returned at twenty minutes past one—I then went to Mr. Harding and got from him the keys of the back gates, which we call the Loudon Road gates—I went, to the gates and locked them and then went back to the office, which I reached about half-past one—I saw Mr. Harding there and delivered the keys to him—from that time the gates remained locked for the remainder of the day.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. There are covered passages up to the Loudon Road gates, those passages go under private houses, and extend over twenty yards.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not see Gorrie leave the yard at all that day—when the gates are closed it is quite impossible for anyone to get over them.</p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-196" type="given" value="ERNEST HENRY"/>ERNEST HENRY ROOFE</persName> </hi>. lam a clerk at Nevill's—on Saturday, 12th April, I was engaged in the office inside the north entrance to the works from Milkwood Road—on that Saturday that gate was not opened at all, to let vans in or out—when it was open I opened it—the first time I opened it was about twenty minutes past one—I then let five, six, or seven vans out—I remained at the gate, and immediately locked it after they had gone—nobody went in or out except the people connected with the vans—nobody would be allowed out—when I locked the gate the key remained in my possession—at two o'olock I let out three vans in the same way and locked the gate as soon as they had passed out—I did not let out any man, only the drivers of the vans—after that the gate remained shut until 3.50—I then opened it to let the vans in, coming home—I did not see the prisoner at all that day that I remember—he did not pass in or out of that gate during that day—I recollect clearly what took place on that Saturday with regard to that gate.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The reason I recollect it is because two or three days afterwards I was spoken to about it by Mr. Harding—I was not called at the police-court, nor at the inquest—the three vans that went out at two o'clock were loaded—I did not check the names of the drivers—those vans went what is called a baker's round, to bakers' shops—there is a fixed time for those three vans to go out on Saturday—I could tell you the names of the drivers, if necessary—I did not look in the vans; they are covered vans with "Nevill's Bread "painted at the side—I have seen the plan of the premises; I saw it at the office; I have never been shown it; there is one hanging up; not for the purposes of this case—the vans are kept down the Milkwood Road gateway before they are loaded—I cannot tell from which bakery the bread came with which they were loaded—it would most likely be from No. 3, I can't say for certain—no one else has a key of these gates but Mr. Harding—it would not be possible for these gates to be opened without my seeing them—no one can go out without my knowledge—I remained in the office till just before the three vans went out—it would be possible for someone to go out by another gate without my knowing it.
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. There are four gates altogether; two were actually</p>
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<p>closed, so that it would be impossible for anyone to get out unless they were opened by somebody; this third gate was under my charge; the other gate leading into Milkwood Road is overlooked by Mr. Harding's office; that is the gate for people to come in and out of, who come on business—people often come in and out of that gate; all the rest are specially for the use of the establishment.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. I did not part with the keys at any time between 12.50 and 1.50—I could not see if Mr. Harding opened the gates at all—the keys
<hi rend="italic">do</hi> not hang up in the office, I keep them in my pocket—the bread baked in the different bakeries is all the same—there are three loading sheds, one belonging to each bakery.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I was away from the gates about twenty to twenty-five minutes, between half-past one and two, I was on the premises, upstairs—I went into the lavatory to wash, having the keys in my pocket.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">"W. S. HARDING</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-called by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MATHEWS</hi>). I had the keys of the gates in Loudon Road from Mr. Grimsell about twenty-seven minutes past one—they were in my pocket in the house up to 3.14; I mean the keys of the two Loudon Road gates—I won't be certain whether I parted with them to open the front gates on the other side, but I think not; I may have—I had a key to the entrance of No. 3 bakery which I kept myself; personally I aid not use that key that afternoon—I may have lent them to Roofe, but only to him; and I have no recollection of giving them to him—the key Roofe had belongs to the head clerk, Mr. Knott, he had it from him and gave it back to him—I did not see him do so; they are not the same keys that I use, Mr. Knott has a key to the entrance of No. 3 bakery as well as myself—he keeps it in his possession—I have a duplicate key, but that is the only key that anyone has to the bakery except myself.
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. There are two keys to the gate of No. 3, one I keep in my own possession, which I do not part with except for a particular purpose; the other key is nominally in Mr. Knott's possession, but Roofe has it sometimes to let vans in and out—there is no other key; if a stranger came I should not let him pass.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. I do not think there was any disagreement between the prisoner and the deceased; the deceased was a most peaceable man—I never knew of him having a disturbance with anyone, everybody liked him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you aware of any animus against the prisoner at your works?—
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Well, the men have certainly called my attention to two or three petty transactions, he was suspended during my absence at Deal last year, for apparently tampering with one of the men's boxes—I found the evidence not conclusive, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and reinstated him, but the men had it in their minds, and they would be on the look out for him in case such a thing should occur again—I found out myself anything but an honest transaction, and I said if I had discharged him for that at the time I should not have punished him as much as his family; I like to keep my men about me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. The coke-holes are on the ground floor—I have not given the men strict orders with regard to the particular room for them to dress in, most of them use No, 1, where there are three partitions; the fruit store is out of that—there is no fixed place for them to wash in, they generally wash outside in the yard on a warm day; if it is cold they take the warmest room they can, the furnace-room most likely; there</p>
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<p>are towels in the bakehouse to dry themselves with—the passage leading to No. 1 coke-hole is as nearly as possible on the same level—the coke is brought in from the yard, and shot into the coke-hole; there is a decline from the yard to the furnace-room—coming out from the coke-hole you come into the yard, then you can go up the steps anywhere you like—the doorway of No. 1 coke-hole is always kept locked, and the key is in it; it is directly opposite my office; if the door was open it would keep banging backwards and forwards, and would be a nuisance to me—the coke is not packed close up to the door; anyone could open the door, as the key is left in it; it is a double door, one bottom and one top, like a stable door—there would be plenty of room for a person to go in and stand there—I should think at that time there would be a space of five feet between the top of the coke and the ceiling, the height of the coke store is from nine to ten feet, it might be eleven at the extreme end—I should think the coke would be from six to seven feet high—the coke-hole is intended merely for the deposit of the coke, it is not intended as a means of access from the yard to the furnace.</p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-197" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SPARKES</persName> </hi>. I live in Milkwood Road, and am a foreman baker at Nevill's—on Saturday, 12th April, about a quarter-past four in the afternoon I was in Milkwood Road and saw the prisoner there in company with his wife—I was at the fish shop buying some fish—I stopped and spoke to him—I told him that
<hi rend="italic">Nabob</hi> had been found dead in the furnace-room, he replied, "Oh, has he?" or something similar to that, I could not say exactly what it was—I said, "The report is that he has slipped down and killed himself"; he said nothing to that—at this time we were standing at the shop—as we were walking towards home he said, "I have had a scrimmage this afternoon. I have been to the Fox-under-the-Hill, and on my way home I met a man who asked me for some money, I told him to go to work for it, the same as I did: one word brought up another; the man struck me on the chest, and I hit him on the nose and mouth, and made his nose and mouth bleed; he tried to get his fingers down underneath my collar, to throw me, and when the scuffle was over a policeman was coming up, and the man ran away"—he turned and showed me the mark on his neck, it looked as if it had been done by a finger nail; it was such a mark as might be caused in the way he described—the skin was abrased—it was not bleeding at the time, it had bled a little I think, it looked as if it had been wounded by a nail slightly—he said, "I have put a clean collar on, because the button-holes of the other one were broken"—he said nothing more—his wife said nothing particular—Gorrie and I crossed the road and spoke to Frank Harding—I left him just below the bakery in Milkwood Road.</p>
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<interp inst="t18900519-name-198" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN TUNBRIDGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector, Scotland Yard</hi>), On the morning of 13th April I received certain information, in consequence of which I took down in writing a number of statements from several people at Messrs. Nevill's bakery—I sent for them to Peckham Police-station, and took the statements there—among the persons I examined that day were Mr. William Samuel Harding, the manager, Frank Harding, the packer, John Hitchings, John Sparkes, and Alfred Daniels—the statements of Frank Sharville, Thomas Balls, and Henry Lewis were taken by Inspector Fox—the prisoner had been sent for before I arrived at the station, he and I arrived simultaneously; at twelve in the day on the</p>
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<p>Sunday—I saw him and spoke to him within a few minutes of his arrival—I had seen Sharville, and had been given an outline of the matter by Inspector
<hi rend="italic">Fox,</hi> but the prisoner was the first person I actually saw to speak to in relation to the matter—Inspector Fox was with me—I told the prisoner that he had been brought there for the purpose of having his statement taken, that it was a very serious matter, and it would be necessary for him to account for the whole of his time from twelve o'clock on the previous day, the money he received and expended, and whose company he had been in; that he should give it in the minutest detail, and it would be compared with the statements of other employes in the works, to test its truth—he said, "I will tell you everything"—I then began
<hi rend="italic">to write</hi> as he spoke—I took down practically word for word from his lips, as near as I could to convert it into writing; I took it down up to the last paragraph but one as it now appears—I then read it over to him two hours afterwards at the station, before we separated—he did not sign it on that occasion—I said to him, "I should like to see the works, so that I may better understand the places you have been speaking about"—I had not seen the place—I said, "While I am away, consider over what you have told me, and when I return, if there is anything you wish to add, or alter in your statement, we can do so when I come back"—I then left him, and went to the works, and made an inspection of them, that took me some time—I also saw the prisoner's wife at her house in Jessop Road, and she handed me these two collars, shirt, jacket and vest, and this tie was handed to me afterwards—I had a conversation with her; she made a statement, which I took down in writing and read over to heir—I then came back to the police station, that would be between seven and eight in the evening—it was about twelve when I first saw the prisoner, I was with him then more than two hours; it was five o'clock when I left the police-station to go to the works—I was with him then for five hours; but we broke off to have dinner—I was with him from midday till five; there was an interval during that time while the prisoner and myself were getting some refreshment; we retired about three for about half an hour, he had some food in one room, and I had some in another—I was in his company all the rest of the time, with the exception of that half-hour—he was five hours making his statement, it was a very long statement, it took nearly twenty sheets—when I returned from the works I said to him, "I have been to the works, I understand it now, I will now read over your statement again, and if you have anything to add or alter we will do so"—I then read it to him a second time—he said, "I wish to correct one point. I have made a mistake about the nearest place I was to No. 1 bakehouse during Saturday; the nearest point would be when I passed up and down No. 1 yard"—I took that down and read it over to him; he then initialed each sheet, and signed it at the end—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the statement which he made, there was no communication between the prisoner and his wife between the times when their respective statements were made; the wife was at her own home, and he was at the police-station—I did not read to him his wife's statement.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The Statement was read as follows:</hi>—"I am a married man, and have three children. I have been in Mr. Nevill's employ since August, 1880. I am thirty years of age. I am employed in what is called the middle bakery. On Saturdays all the bakers cease work between 12 noon and</p>
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<p>1 p.m. I left off work yesterday a few minutes after twelve. After leaving off work I went into the middle yard and washed. When I left the bakery to wash, my foreman, Mr. Howard, and a baker named Brown were there. There was no other person washing in the yard at the time I was there washing. After I had finished washing I went to the dressing-room on the middle bakery. It was about 12.30 p.m. when I entered the dressing-room. There were several persons in the dressingroom when I went in, amongst whom were a baker named Weston and another named Haywood. After I had dressed I returned to the bakery, leaving behind me both Weston and Haywood, besides others. On reaching the bakery I found Brown there. I put away my tools and then left the premises. Brown left the bakery just before me, and passed out of the gate into Milkwood Road, just in front of me. When I left the bakery there were several packers and others still there, but none of my gang. Amongst those I left behind in the bakery were Wilson, a fruitman; Harding, a packer; a man whose Christian name is George; another packer, and a fruitman named Hitchings. I don't remember seeing anyone about the yard or at the gate when I went out. I looked at No. 1 clock as I went down the yard, and noticed that the time was twenty minutes to one. After getting outside the premises, I turned to the right along Milkwood Road to Heron Road, through Heron Road, up Poplar Walk into Denmark Hill to the Fox-under-the-Hill. In Poplar Walk a man begged of me and I gave him two-pens. This was the only person who spoke to me or to whom I spoke to between the works and the public-house. It is about a mile from the bakery to the Fox-under-the-Hill. I went to the public-house just for a walk I received my money for my week's work (32s.) at the office about 11.80 a.m. It was in three half-sovereigns and a two-shilling piece. The foreman, Mr. Howard, paid me 3s. 5d. for overtime about twelve o'clock in the bakery. He paid me in the following coins, viz.:—a two-shilling piece, a shilling and a sixpence, and I gave the foreman one shilling. When I went into work at six o'clock on Friday evening I had twopence in my possession, and I had spent nothing from the time of going in. I don't know what money my wife may have had on Friday evening, but I should think she probably had about a shilling. On my arrival at the Fox-under-the-Hill, I entered the bar nearest Camberwell, and there were several persons, strangers to me, in the bar when I entered. I know the landlord and landlady by sight, but I am not aware that they know me. I ordered a half-a-pint of 'stout-and-mild,' and a pennyworth of tobacco, as I found I had left my tobacco-pouch behind in the dressing-room at the works. I paid for the beer and tobacco (2 1/2 d.) in coppers. I did not miss the tobacco-pouch until I got to the Fox-under-the-Hill. I had some tobacco in my pipe when I left the works, and I smoked this on my way to the public-house. It was about one o'clock when I was at the public-house, and I only remained there a few minutes. After leaving the public-house I went direct back to the works to look for my tobacco-pouch. I went back by wav of Denmark Hill, Poplar Walk, into and along Jessop Road into Milkwood Road, to the works. I passed by my house on the way, but never went in. I entered the works by the main and only entrance. I had riot seen any person whom I knew between the public-house and the works, nor had I spoken to anyone, or had anyone spoken to me on the</p>
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<p>way. I noticed it was 1.25 when I entered the works. As I entered the gate I noticed two young men, strangers to me, standing on the opposite side of Milkwood Road, looking into the works. They appeared as if they were waiting about with the idea of getting a job, or for someone to come out of the works. They were two ordinary-looking young men, and I took no notice of them, could not describe them, and should not know them again. As I crossed the yard to the middle bakery, I spoke to Wilson and Hitchings, who had just finished loading a van in the yard. They said to me, "What, haven't you gone yet?" and I said, "Yes, I have forgot something. "I went into the middle bakery, there was no one there when I went in, but Wilson and O'Meaney and another man they call
<hi rend="italic">Jem</hi> came in immediately afterwards. When I got into the bakery, I went direct to my box to look for my tobacco-pouch, but it was not there. I then went up to the middle ladder to the dressing-room where I had changed my clothes. The three men, Wilson, O'Meaney, and
<hi rend="italic">Jem</hi> were in the bakery when I left to go up the middle ladder. They were speaking about having just finished their work. I went out of the bakery by the door into the yard, across the yard to the ladder that leads up into the dressing-room. I saw Harding,
<hi rend="italic">Spot,</hi> and George sweeping out the middle shed as I was going up the ladder, but I did not speak to them. They were the only persons I saw in the yard. The ladder leads to a bridge, which I crossed, into a passage, and the dressingroom opens into the passage on the left of the bridge, and about six feet from the end of the bridge. On the bridge I joined Hitchings, who came on to the bridge by another ladder, and we both went together to the dressing-room; on the bridge Hitchings said he had just finished work, and was going to the dressing-room to change. I told Hitchings I had come back to look for my tobacco-pouch. We both went into the dressing-room together. There was no one there when we entered. I went to my working clothes, which were in a bundle on a rack, and found the tobacco-pouch in my coat pocket, the outside breast. I told Hitchings I had found it, and then left the dressing-room, leaving Hitchings behind. After leaving the dressing-room I went into the passage, turned to the left, along the passage to the bridge, crossing No. 1 yard. I crossed this bridge and descended by the end ladder into No. 1 yard. When I came down into the yard I saw Packer
<hi rend="italic">Nabob</hi> sweeping out the big shed in that yard.
<hi rend="italic">Nabob</hi> was the first person I had met since leaving the dressing-room. I did not speak to
<hi rend="italic">Nabob,</hi> but crossed direct over No. 1 yard out of the gate into Milkwood Road. I looked at the clock I have previously spoken about as I went out, and saw the time was twenty to two. I had done nothing, nor had I been anywhere, or spoken to any person other than what I have described. What I have described occupied the whole fifteen minutes which elapsed from my entering the works, at 1.25, until I left again, at 1.40 p.m. I could have done all I have described as having done under five minutes had I made haste; but I remained some time in the bakery, speaking to Wilson and the others, but chiefly to Wilson. I noticed no one about the gate as I went out except the clerk—the junior one, who was apparently writing in the office. I don't think he saw me. Some fruiterers, whose names I don't remember, passed out of the gate in front of me; I think there were three, but I don't think they saw me. I did not stand or loiter about anywhere in the works</p>
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<p>between 1.25 and 1.40 by myself. The only place I passed any time at all in was the bakery. The last time I was in the furnace-room before the murder was On Thursday evening about eight o'clock, when I went to fetch some salt out of the apparatus-room, which abuts on the furnace-room. The nearest I was to the furnace-room at any time on Saturday, was when I was in the bakery, where I am employed—I mean by bakery, the middle bakehouse. After leaving the works at 1.40 p.m. I went direct home by way of Milkwood Road into Jessop Road. I neither saw anyone I knew nor spoke to anyone on the way. On reaching home I entered my kitchen and there saw my wife. My wife let me in the front door, I told my wife I had been for a walk to the Fox-under-the-Hill. My dinner was not quite ready when I got home. When I first went indoors my wife said to me, "You have not come straight home; X saw some of the bakers going home half an hour ago, when I was out shopping. It was then I told her I had been to the Fox-under-the-Hill. A, good many of the bakers, after leaving work on Saturday, go direct to the Milkwood Arms, and have a drink together; and I have very frequently gone there with them. Yesterday I took a fancy to go to the Fox under-the-Hill by myself, instead of going with the others to the Milkwood Arms. I have gone to the Fox-under-the-Hill by myself of a Saturday afternoon once or twice before, but it was a long time ago. The last time I was in the Fox-under-the-Hill before yesterday was on Boxing Day. As I have said before, I met no one I knew either going from the works to the Fox under-the-Hill, at the Fox-under-the-Hill, or when returning to the Works. I spoke to no one except the man who begged of me, and when ordering the beer and tobacco. All that passed between the beggar-man and myself, was that he said he was hard-up, and wanted a copper; X gave him twopence. He thanked me for it, and we separated, going in opposite directions. It was in Poplar Walk I met the man. After I got indoors I gave my wife 33s. in all; it was made up of three half-sovereigns and three single shillings. The clothes I was wearing yesterday, from the time I left work, were a navy blue jacket and vest to match, and the trousers I now have on. I was wearing the same tie, but another collar and shirt, and the same shoes I am now wearing. The shoes have not been cleaned since I left work yesterday. I remained at home from the time I reached there, about a quarter to two, until about 3.30 p.m., sitting in the kitchen reading and having a glass of ale. I then went out with my wife shopping in Brixton Market, near the railway station, and there my wife purchased a number of articles of food, but I am unable to say how much she expended. We returned home about half-past four, and when in the Milkwood Road, near home, we met George Sparks and his little boy. Sparks is one of the foremen bakers at Nevill's. Sparks and I walked along together towards the works, and near the gate leading into the works we came up to Harding and two or three other men. Just at the time I met Sparks the police ambulance passed us, going towards the works. I asked Sparks if he knew what was up, and he said he had heard that Nabob had fallen down and got killed. I asked him if Nabob had had a fit, or how it was done, and he said he had heard that Nabob had fallen down, and that was all he knew. Nothing else passed between Sparks and I. It was only about a stonels throw from where I met Sparks</p>
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<p>to the gate of the works, where Harding and the others were standing. As I passed Harding and the others I heard them speaking about Nabob being found dead, but they did not appear to know anything further than Sparks had told me. Sparks and I merely made a halt with Harding and the others, and then passed on to the end of Jessop Road, where Sparks left me, and I turned down Jessop Road and went indoors I merely told Sparks I had been shopping with my wife, and nothing else. I did not say anything to him about having been into the works to look after my tobacco-pouch, or having been to the Fox-under-the-Hill. Nothing whatever passed between me and Sparks except what I have mentioned. After I got indoors my wife prepared tea, and when we were about half through Pawe, one of the engineers, came to my house and said the manager wanted to see me. I went back to the works with him, and there saw Mr. Harding, the manager. He asked me what I was doing at the works about half past one. I told him I had been out, and forgotten my tobacco-pouch, and had come back to look for it. I did not tell him I had been to the Fox-under-the-Hill. He questioned me as to how much money I had given my wife, and I told him 33s. He asked mo to turn out my pockets, and I did so. I then had a two shilling piece, a threepenny piece, and twopence in bronze. When at Brixton with my wife she went into the Atlantic public-house, and there my wife had a half-pint of stout, and I had a half-pint of mild ale. I paid 3d. for this drink. This was the only money I had spent other than that I have already mentioned. After leaving the manager I went back home, without speaking to anyone, and did