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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-1" type="given" value="na"/>DE KEYSER</persName>, MAYOR.</p>
<p>SIXTH SESSION, HELD MARCH 19TH, 1888.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE.</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-2" type="given" value="JAMES DROVER"/>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</persName> </p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-3" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
<p>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>VOL. CVIII</p>
<p>SESSIONS VIL TO XII</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS AND SONS, 119, CHANCERY LANE,</p>
<p>Law Booksellers and Publishers.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Including cases committed to this Court under Order in Council pursuant to the Winter Assize Act of 1879,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, March 19th, 1888, and following days.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE</hi> the
<hi rend="smallCaps">RIGHT HON</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">POLYDORE
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-4" type="given" value="na"/>DE KEYSER</persName>, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; the Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-5" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HAWKINS</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's High Court of Justice; Sir
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LL</hi>. D., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol Delivery, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM ALPHEUS HIGGS</hi>, Esq.,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">BEARD</hi>, Esq.,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriff.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-14" type="given" value="na"/>DE KEYSER</persName>, MAYOR.SIXTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Monday, March</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1888.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi> to obtaining two sums of 2
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, March</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-391-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.—</rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH BROWNLOW</hi> (45)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18880319-392-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-29" type="given" value="BELINDA"/>BELINDA AMBROSE</persName> </hi>. My husband is a confectioner, of 51, Boleyn Road, Islington—on 21st February, about 7 p.m., I served a man about Jones's size, who I cannot identify, with some chocolate, price 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a threepenny
<hi rend="italic">bit</hi>, which I put in the till without looking at, and gave him 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and he left—Nott came in immediately—there was no</p>
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<p>coin in the till but the threepenny piece—I gave it to him—that chocolate (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is exactly like what I sold him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-30" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-30" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-30" type="surname" value="DODD"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-30" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA DODD</persName> </hi>. My husband is a baker, of 154, Boleyn Road, Hackney—part of the road is in Islington and part in Hackney—on 21st February, about 7. 30 p.m., I sold Jones a penny loaf—he gave me a threepenny piece—I put it in the till, gave him the change, and he left—a constable then came in—I looked at the coin I had put in the till—there was no other coin there—I found it bad—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it has a little mark on it—the loaf was the one I sold, I made it and baked it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Jones.</hi> I swear you are the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-31" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM NOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer J</hi>). On 1st February I was on duty in Kingsland Road, and saw the two prisoners in company, constantly joining and separating, Jones was a little ahead of the woman—Sergeant Hearn joined me, and we followed them to Boleyn Road, where Jones went into Mr. Ambrose's shop and Brownlow remained on the other side of the road by herself—Jones came out, joined her, and spoke to her—I went into the shop and spoke to Mrs. Ambrose, who went to the till and took out this threepenny piece—we then followed the prisoners again—Jones went into Mrs. Dodd's, and Brownlow walked past the shop on the same side—Jones came out with something in his hand, which he handed to Brownlow—I went into the shop and spoke to Mrs. Dodd, who examined the till, and took out a threepenny piece, which she showed me, but would not give it to me—I went outside, but could not see them—I ran up two or three roads, picked them up in the Green Lanes, and followed them to a public-house—they went into a public-house, and when they came out I stopped them, told them I was a police officer, and should take them in custody for being concerned together in uttering counterfeit coin—Jones said "I never saw this woman before in my life"—she said "I never saw this man before in my life"—I searched Jones there, and found a penny on him—Brownlow was wearing an apron with a pocket under it—I found in the apron two loaves, this piece of chocolate, and 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I went 0 presence.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. by Jones.</hi> I stopped you in the road and pushed you into a shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Brownlow.</hi> I did not take the pocket from you—I took the loaf out of your pocket at the station, not in the street—you said that you picked it up; you did not say where—the searcher brought me the pocket—she searched you, but I had found the chocolate and the loaf before that—she had got her apron in her hand like this.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-32" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-32" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-32" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HEARN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant N</hi>). I joined Nott at Kingsland Gate, and we followed the prisoners to Boleyn Road, and lost sight of them for a time—I afterwards saw them in custody, and heard them charged—Jones said "I never saw that woman before in my life"—she said "I never saw that man before in my life"—they were taken to the station—Jones was asked his address, and said "I have no fixed abode'—the woman gave her address, 8, Fielding Street, Bethnal Green—I went there; it was not correct—'I saw Jones go into Mrs. Ambrose's, and come out and join Brownlow.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-33" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-33" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of Coin to Her Majesty's Mint—these two coins are counterfeit, and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Jones's Defence.</hi> I never saw this woman before in my life.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Brownlow's Defence.</hi> I was not with the man, and I don't know him. When the policeman threw the man down, I picked up the bread outside the doctor's shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-392-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">They then</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to previous convictions at this Court of uttering counterfeit coin, Jones in June</hi>, 1880,
<hi rend="italic">Brownlow in March</hi>, 1879.
<hi rend="italic">Five previous convictions were proved against Jones, and three against Brownlow.</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JONES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">BROWNLOW</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-392-18880319 t18880319-392-punishment-8"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM BROWN</hi> (61)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18880319-393-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-35" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT HUNT</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Sun and Apple Tree, White Hart Street, Strand—on the evening of 5th March I served the prisoner with three halfpennyworth of rum—he gave me this sixpence (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I found it was bad, and took it to Mr. Davey, the manager, in the bar parlour, who came out and said to the prisoner "Have you got any more like this?"—he said "Give it to me back, I have just taken it from a
<hi rend="italic">'bus</hi> conductor," and put his hand in his pocket, and was edging to the street-door—I fetched a constable, and when I came back I saw the prisoner struggling with the manager.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> You were at the end of the counter when I served you—I took the coin to the till—there was no other silver there—it is a patent till—it was about seven yards from you—you were standing at the counter when I came back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I did not put the coin in the till—it did not go out of my hands.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-36" type="given" value="FRANK HENRY"/>FRANK HENRY DAVEY</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Sun and Apple Tree—on 5th March I was in the bar parlour—Hunt came and spoke to me, and handed me a sixpence—I found it was bad, and took it to the bar where the prisoner was, and said to him "What sort of a man do you call yourself? how many more have you got of these?"—he said "Give it to me back; I have just taken it from a
<hi rend="italic">'bus</hi>"—I said "No," and told the barman to go for a constable—the prisoner immediately made for the door—I stopped him—he resisted violently, but I detained him until a constable arrived—just as the constable came in a customer in the bar caught the prisoner by his right shoulder—this is the coin, I marked it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> I pressed the charge against you at the station—I was not called to give evidence the next morning, but I was there—I gave my information to the sergeant at the station—he wrote it down, and I signed it—you stopped at the counter while the barman came to me with the sixpence, because you expected I was coming to the inside of the bar, but I surprised you by coming to the outside.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> He was very violent, but I think he was sober—he could not see me till I got round to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-37" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FOY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 19). On the afternoon of 5th March I was called to the Sun and Apple Tree, and there saw the prisoner in the bar struggling with Mr. Davey and a third party—Mr. Davey said "I charge this man with attempting to pass a bad sixpence"—the prisoner said "I am innocent; it is all through a drop of drink"—I told him I should search him, and asked if he had any more coin—he said "I shan't allow you to search me, but I have some more money"—I tried to search him, but he was so violent that I found if I attempted to search him he would</p>
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<p>escape—another constable came, and with his help I took him in custody—I again attempted to search him, but he continued struggling, and fearing he would escape I took hold of one hand, and the constable took the other—when we got outside he dragged us all three down—he asked to be allowed to put his hand in his pocket for a piece of tobacco, but I said "No"—he said "Well, you will have to take me; I shan't go"—two other constables arrived, and he quieted down a little, and said he would walk—at the station he was charged with the uttering, and said "I know nothing about it"—he was asked his address, and said "I have no fixed home"—he was so violent at the station that he had to be held while I searched him—I found on him a half-crown, a shilling, and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in pence, all good, but no tobacco—this sixpence I received from Mr. Davey—he marked it in my presence—the prisoner was sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> You smelt of drink, but your speech was good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-38" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-38" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This coin is counterfeit.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I came from Cannon Street on a
<hi rend="italic">'bus</hi> to the Strand, and got down at Southampton Street. Before I left the
<hi rend="italic">'bus</hi> I gave the conductor a two-shilling piece, and he gave me the sixpence in change. I had been drinking freely and got excited when the charge was made against me, though innocent. I told that constable I was innocent."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner repeated the same statement in his defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-393-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-393-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He then</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>**
<hi rend="italic">to a previous conviction of unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin in November</hi>, 1886.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<p>394.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR.HORACE AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-40" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-40" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH BIRD</persName> </hi>. I serve at Deacon's Coffee House, 3, Walbrook—on 4th February, about 9.30 p.m., the prisoner came in and asked for soda and brandy; I served him and he gave me half-a-crown in payment—I gave him the change—I looked at the coin and handed it to the manager, who gave him in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-41" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BARBER</persName> </hi>. I am manager of Deacon's Coffee House—the last witness handed me a bad half-crown—I went round and told the prisoner it was bad, and I should detain him till a constable came—I gave him in custody with the coin—he said nothing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-42" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER AUSTIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 692). On 4th February I was called to Deacon's Coffee House and took the prisoner in custody with this counterfeit half-crown—Mr. Barber said he should charge him with uttering it, and ho said he was sorry, but he did not know it was bad—I took him to the station and charged him, and he said that he had changed money several times during the day, and paid money away, and he must have had it given him in change—I found on him 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver; he gave me his name William Anderson, 114, Brockenhurst Road, Hatcham Park, New Cross—the sergeant did not take the charge at the station, and he was allowed to go.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> Ho said at the station "Ihave changed money during the day and I must have had it given me in change"—that was not said in answer to the prosecutor saying he would charge him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I made a note of it and by that note it appears to have been said at the station.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-43" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-43" type="given" value="HARRY"/>HARRY SPENCER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Messrs. Terry and Co., tobacconists, of 153, Cheapside—on 9th February, about 8. 25 p.m., the prisoner came in for a sixpenny cigar—I asked him what brand he would like and he said a Larranaga—he gave me this florin; I gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and as he was going out I said "Here, you have given me a bad two-shilling piece"—he took it from me and put it between his teeth and said "Yes, it is a bad one, where could I have got it from?" he paused a second or two and said "Oh, I know, I changed a half-sovereign for my dinner, and must have got this in change"—he put his hand in his pocket and brought out a good half-crown and threw it down and said "That is a good one, is it not?"—I took it in my hand and said "Unless you make good the bad half-crown you passed here ten days or a fortnight ago, I shall give you in custody"—he said "I am sure you must have made a mistake, this is a new shop, I have never been in here before"—it had been opened about six weeks then—he walked out rather sharp towards Newgate Street, leaving me the good half-crown—he had got the 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and the cigar, so that he left me sixpence to the good—I went after him and gave him in custody—he had come in before on the 24th for a sixpenny cigar; I asked him what brand he wanted, he said a Larranaga—I principally recognised him by his Ulster—he gave me a bad florin; I kept it a day or two and then put it in a slow fire—it melted
<hi rend="italic">very</hi> quickly and ran through.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> I did not recognise him at once—I had not seen him before the 24th—he said "I am very sorry; I had no idea it was bad."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I have not the slightest doubt he is the man who came on the first occasion—I held the light while he lighted the eigar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-44" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HARNETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 302). I was called, and Spencer said "This man came into my shop and called for a 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. cigar, and tendered a two-shilling piece in payment; I have since examined it, and find it is had; I also recognise him as the man who came in here 10 days or a fortnight ago, and tendered a bad half-crown"—I said to the prisoner "You have heard what he says"—he said "Yes, I went in and called for a 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. cigar, and tendered a two-shilling piece, and he gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.change; as I was leaving he called me back and said the two-shilling piece was bad, and I gave him a half-crown; I am sure I was not in the shop before"—Spencer handed me this bad florin and good half-crown—I searched the prisoner at the station, and found two shillings, three sixpences, and 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers, all good, two new scarves done up separately in paper, three new elastic bands, a pocket-knife, three new studs, and a small new purse—he was wearing this watch-chain, with this key attached—he gave his name John Scott, 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., Lambeth Road—I found that he lived there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> The scarves were new done up in a separate piece of paper, but they have been in my pocket for a long time now.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-45" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-crown and florin are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOSEPH</hi> Kopp. I live at 6, Sandcroft Street, Kennington Cross, and am a waiter—I know the prisoner as an acquaintance—on 1st February I saw him close to St. George's Circus, and went with him to Mr. Barnett, a pawnbroker, 10, St. George's Circus—he wanted to redeem an overcoat for 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., but when he got inside he discovered that he had not got the ticket, and he asked me to go to his address and get it—I did so, and</p>
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<p>came back to the pawnbroker's and got the overcoat—the prisoner was then wearing a black diagonal coat, not an Ulster—he pledged the black overcoat for 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and then wanted to redeem the overcoat—they were both appraised at the same value—the coats were exchanged, and this ticket of 1st February was given to him—I paid 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. interest and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the ticket—he gave me the money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> I have known him a few years—I don't know if he often changes his great coats—I have no idea why he pawned this coat—he said he did not feel very warm in the one he had—the coat he is wearing now is the one I got out of pawn—I am certain it is the same—I don't know why he did not go back and fetch the ticket—he sent me back to fetch the coat—I believe his tea was ready, that was why he did not go back—I got the ticket from 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., Lambeth Road, where he lived—I don't know why he gave 6, Lambeth Road on the ticket—the black coat had been pledged before—I don't know whether that ticket was paid for then—I did not look at the ticket when I carried it to the pawnbroker's.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-394-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. **—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, March</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MUIR</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-48" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN STALLION</persName> </hi>. I live at 35, Park Lane, Baker Street—the prisoner is my husband—on Sunday, 19th February, I lived at 19, New Street Mews, Dorset Square—about half-past 7 o'clock on Sunday morning I was at home with my husband in the ground floor—we have two rooms—I asked him to reach me a little saucepan from a cupboard that he sat close to—he told me to get it myself—I stooped to get it, and he hit me a heavy blow on the top of my head—I turned round sharp to get away from the cupboard towards the door loading to my bedroom, and he hit me on this side of the head and on the head—I struggled and got away from him the best way I could, and got into the mews, and called for a neighbour to come and take me to a doctor's to have my head dressed—that is all I recollect—I went to Dr. Jones at the Western General Dispensary—I had slept with one of my daughters on the night before this, because I was in great fear of the prisoner—I have often done so; that was because he was in the habit of drinking, and when he is drunk he is like a madman, and I avoided all that—he has also threatened me, and about five or six months ago he said he would rip me up—he has also given me black eyes, but I have forgiven him all that when he asked me to do so—he has been a very good man when sober, but when drunk he has been like a man out of his mind—I could not tell you if he was sober on this morning.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-49" type="given" value="ERNEST LLOYD"/>ERNEST LLOYD JONES</persName> </hi>. I am junior house surgeon at the Western General Dispensary—on the morning of 19th February, shortly after 8 o'clock, the last witness came to me to have her head dressed—she had four contused wounds on the head and several bruises about the body—they were severe wounds in so far that complication might arise from them—they might have been caused very likely by the thin end of this</p>
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<p>poker—she had an attack of fever in consequence of the wounds—her life was in actual danger for five or six days, and not out of danger for five or six days afterwards—the wounds must have been inflicted with a good deal of violence—at the police-court the prisoner said that he struck her once, and then he said he might have struck her twice.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-50" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK CRUSH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 217). On 19th February I was called to the General Western Dispensary, where I saw Mrs. Stallion—she made a statement to me, and I went to 25, New Street Mews, and arrested the prisoner about 8.30 a. m.—I told him it was for assaulting his wife—he said "Yes, I did it with this poker" (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it was lying in the fireplace at the time—he was sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence stated that hit wife was in the habit of drinking and leaving her home at night; that she led him a fearful life, and was always sneering at him for being a teetotaler, which he had been for five years.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-51" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN STALLION</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). What he says is not true—about five years ago he left me destitute, and went to live with another woman—I paid the rent and kept the house on my own responsibility—I did once throw a glass at him, but it slipped out of my hand—I only intended to throw the contents.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">of unlawful wounding.</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18880319-396-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>, Unlawfully obtaining 211/2 yards of velvet from
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-396-offence-1 t18880319-name-53"/>Robert William Harrison</persName> by false pretences, with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ERNEST BEARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-54" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-54" type="given" value="ROBERT WILLIAM"/>ROBERT WILLIAM HARRISON</persName> </hi>. I am manager in the silk department of Messrs. Debenham and Freebody, of 37, St. Paul's Churchyard—on 24th February, about 3 p.m., the prisoner came in there—I asked what she wanted—she said "A piece of velvet"—I asked who it was for—she said "For Biddle Brothers, of Oxford Street"—they are customers of ours—she had a billhead in her hand of Hayward's; that is the name Biddle and Co. trade under—she did not show it to me; I saw it—she said she wanted about 10 yards, and that she would take the piece, and if it did not suit I should have it back on the following morning—I said I did not think they would allow her to have it, as she was not known to us—she said "Oh, it does not matter; if you give me a pattern I will get it elsewhere"—I said if she did not get it elsewhere I would see what I could do and let her have it—she then went out ostensibly to get it elsewhere, and returned in a few minutes, and not having procured it I told her I believed we should be able to let her have it—she said she particularly wanted to take it home in a cab, as they required to make it up very hurriedly—I said I would send it up, but she said they wanted it at once—I then gave her 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1/2 yards, value 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this is the invoice of it—it is silk ruby velvet and is 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a yard—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—when I gave it to her I believed she came from Biddle and Co.—we gave Messrs. Biddle and Son a month's credit—she signed her right name in the book "A.E. Madgett."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> It is the frequent custom for business persons with whom we are acquainted to send persons for articles—I believed that the prisoner was an assistant to Biddle and Co.—had I known she was not I should not have parted with it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-55" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-55" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-55" type="given" value="OSCAR JOHN"/>OSCAR JOHN TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the employ of Messrs. Biddle and Co., warehousemen, of 166 and 168, Oxford Street, trading under the name of Hay wards—the prisoner was in their employ as millinery saleswoman for six months up to the 1st February in this year—she had no authority to go to Debenham and Freebody's to get this velvet.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> I did not dismiss her—she wrote to the firm saying she had met with an accident, and would probably be away some time, and asked if they would keep her situation open, and they declined to do so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> That was on the 1st of February—she had been away for two or three days in the latter part of January.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-56" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-56" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-56" type="surname" value="DAVIES"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-56" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DAVIES</persName> </hi>. I am a wardrobe dealer at 2, Crawford Street, Baker Street—on 24th February the prisoner came to me with this box—she said "I have got some velvet for sale; what will you allow me for it?" and she said she was giving up business as she was going away—I then took the velvet out of the shop and inspected it—I call myself a judge of velvet—I gave her two guineas for it—there was no bargaining; I took her for a lady and bought the stuff, and took her name and address, which was correct—the velvet is quite new—no inducement was held out to me to buy it—she said she had a musical box and a machine and some more stuff to sell, and I said I would wait upon her and buy it—there is no name on the box.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I did not measure it at all; she told me it was 211/2 yards—I opened about a yard and a half of it—she was quite a stranger to me—I thought this velvet cost about 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—it is very narrow—I gave her 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a yard, not quite half of what I thought it was worth.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-57" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-57" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-57" type="surname" value="WRIGHT"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-57" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WRIGHT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Sergeant</hi>). On 2nd March I received a warrant from the Mansion House, and went to Findon Road, Shepherd's Bush, and saw the prisoner leave a house, No. 3—I followed her and stopped her, and asked her if her name was Miss Madgett—she said "Yes"—I told her I was a police-officer, and was going to arrest her with reference to some velvet which she had obtained on 24th February—I read the warrant to her, and she said she had sold it the same day to Mr. Davies, of 2, Crawford Street, for 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I then took her to the station and read the charge to her—she asked me to let her stand over, but I said I was a police-officer, and she would have to go to the station—these nine duplicates and this invoice were handed to me by the female searcher.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> She did not say she would send the money in the morning—she said "Cannot you let it stand over till the morning; I will send the money."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I did not take a memorandum of this conversation—we never take memorandums in the City.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-396-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>. —
<hi rend="italic">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, March</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CARTER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended. The prisoner received an excellent character.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-398-offence-1 t18880319-name-62"/>Metropolitan Machinists Company, limited</persName>, and stealing six bicycles their property.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>, receiving the same.</rs> (
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SIMMONS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Hancock.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-63" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER WOODS</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Metropolitan Machinists Company, Limited—they are bicycle manufacturers at 75, Bishopsgate Street Without—on 13th February I locked up the premises safely—I was the last person to leave—I arrived next morning about 9. 40, and found the outer door still locked—I looked through the glass door and saw footmarks on the oilcloth inside—I opened the door and missed six safety bicycles, value 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which were safe the night before—four of them had our name on them—I informed the police, and on 17th February I went with Detectives Bacon and Savage to a railway arch at Hackney, and found two of the missing bicycles, those without our name, and next morning, the 18th, I saw the other four at Bishopsgate Police-station, and identified them—they had had the name of the firm on them, but it was removed—I had known Hancock about six months—he is a bicycle maker in Bishopsgate Street, within 50 yards of our warehouse.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> The arch is almost as large as this Court—it is divided into three, and Hancock has one-third—he used to do repairs for us.</p>
<p>
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<persName id="t18880319-name-64" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-64" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-64" type="surname" value="WINGRAVE"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-64" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES WINGRAVE</persName> </hi>. I am carman to Mr. Ems, 39, Forston Street, Shepherdess Walk, and live on the premises—on Monday night, February 13th, I received directions from Mr. Ems, and next morning I went with a horse and van to 75, Bishopsgate Street Without—I arrived there about a quarter to 8—the shop door was open, and Jones was inside—he came out and said "I have got six bicycles to come in"—that is into the van—he brought them out and I loaded them—he closed the shop door, went round the corner, came back in about a minute, and I said "Where are you going?"—he said "Dalston," and went with me to show me—we first stopped at Hancock's shop, but he spoke to nobody, nobody had come down—we then went to a railway arch close by and delivered the bicycles there—I afterwards pointed out the arch to the police—he came out and we drove back to his shop, where he spoke to a lady—we then went to a place in Ball's Pond Road—Jones called there and came out with a gentleman, and we all went into a public-house and had a drink—Jones paid me for the job and I went away—while we were driving I said to Jones, "These are new bicycles"—he said "Yes"—there were marks on them like this. (
<hi rend="italic">A stamp</hi>)—I did not see Jones again till he was in custody—I picked him out from five or six others.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. I was at the archway a quarter of an hour—Jones was the only man I saw except some workmen—I do not know How—Hancock's shop is five or six doors from the archway—I do not know what shop it is, as it was shut up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-65" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-65" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-65" type="surname" value="HOW"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-65" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID HOW</persName> </hi>. I am a bicycle salesman, of 182, Ball's Pond Road—on 13th February I was out of employment, having sprained my ankle, and between 2 and 3 p. m. Hancock came to me and said "Will you come to assist me to remove a piano?"—I said "Yes; when do you want me?"—he said "To-morrow at, 12 o'clock"—next day, at 10 o'clock, Jones called and said "I have just left Hancock, and will you come as soon as you can?"—Jones had a carman with him, and I saw a van at the corner of the street—we had a drink together—he paid the carman, who went</p>
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<p>away, and Jones and I went to Hancock's house, but he was out—we met him about 2 o'clock, and he said "I have a piano for sale and a few other things, and as soon as I can find a person to give me a character I shall sell them"—I walked about with him on Tuesday trying to get somebody to give him a character, but he said "I am afraid there will be nothing done this day; you had better come up to-morrow"—next day, about 12 o'clock, I went to Hancock's house—he was not at home, but I met him in Pembury Road at 2 o'clock, and he went to Rectory Road to a place, where he said "If the man had been at home I would have bought up anything"—we tried several places, but he could not find anybody to give him a character, and he said "You had better come up again to-morrow; they are sure to be sold to-morrow, as I have seen a man in Morning Lane who I think will make an advance or buy them right out"—I went again next day, and Hancock was out—I went to Hay's public-house in Morning Lane, and saw him there—he said "The van will be here directly"—Jones was present and Hay's brother—between 2 and 3 o'clock the van pulled up alongside the public-house, and we all got into it with the carman and his brother, six in all—we drove to Hancock's house, and there removed a piano into the van—I went upstairs to fetch part of it down, and Hancock, the carman, and Hay fetched three bicycles, and put them into the van, and we all drove to a private house in the Hackney Road—I do not know the name of the street—I saw no one there, and nothing was delivered there—Hay's brother was in there and stayed half an hour—we then drove to a public-house I think in Mare Street, Bethnal Green, where the piano and three bicycles were delivered—I helped to carry the piano in, and saw money pass from Hay to Hancock—we then all came away—Hancock paid me at 8 o'clock the same night, 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. I did not give evidence at the policecourt—the police spoke to me about giving evidence here—I made no notes of what took place of the conversation, I simply speak from memory—I had known Jones about six weeks—I met him in Ball's Pond Road on Monday, 15th February, and went with him to a public-house—I did not hear him suggest that he should want a loan on some bicycles—I was not in their company an hour on that Monday—I left Jones with Hancock—I have been out of employment three weeks or a month—I was at Rugby's three weeks, and slipped down and sprained my ankle—before that I was at Fisher's, a bicycle maker—I left there because there was nothing further for me to do—before that I was at Goy and Co. 's, Leadenhall Street, for seven years, and left of my own accord; I was not discharged—I was at the Aquarium from Monday to Thursday, and then I sprained my ankle—I only sprained my ankle once—I called on Mr. Reynolds on the Thursday at the Aquarium, and he spoke to me—I offered two bicycles for sale there—I did not state that they were made by Jones, but Jones was with me, and he may have said that he made them—he suggested that we should call there—I had known Mr. Reynolds before—I had no particular bicycle to sell him—I was going to buy one from a manufacturer if I got the order, and I should have made a profit on it.</p>
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<persName id="t18880319-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-66" type="surname" value="TRIGG"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-66" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW TRIGG</persName> </hi>. I am a bicycle manufacturer, of 108, Palatine Road, Stoke Newington—on 13th February, just before dinner, I saw Hancock at the corner of my works—he said "Mr. How has been to me, and he knows of four or six new safety machines for sale"—I said "Do</p>
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<p>you know where they are coming from?"—he said "How will introduce the man to you, and they will bring a sample one down to show; hare you any money that you can spare to purchase them?"—I said No; you know I have no money, because trade has been so bad so long—he said that How wanted the money sharp—he went away, and next day about the same time he came to my workshop, and said "Do you know of a customer for the machines?"—I said "Yes, I think I do; where can they be seen?"—he said "I can't tell you; I will let you know later on," and went away—on the Thursday I went to his house; he was not at home—I went to a public-house, and saw him—he came outside, and I said "I have got a customer for those machines—he said "You know they told me they would bring one down for a sample; they have brought all the lot"—I said "It seems strange they should bring the lot; have you bought them?"—he said "No, 1 can't get the money"—I said "I have a customer for them, but he won't deal with you"—he then took me to the railway arch and showed them to me—I can't say how many there were, but there were more than two—I did not examine them—I simply looked at them, and saw that they were safety machines and new—I did not notice any maker's name on them—I said "My customer will not deal with you, but if they are taken back where they came from my customer will buy them on my valuation; he won't buy them here"—he promised to let me know later on in the day where they could be seen.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-67" type="surname" value="HAY"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-67" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HAY</persName> </hi>. I am manager of my brother's business, the Devon Arms, Morning Lane, Hackney—I never saw either of the prisoners till Hancock called on me on February 14th—he said "You advertised for a piano?"—I said "My brother did; he is just building a new concert room in Brick Lane"—he said "I have one for sale"—I said "What price is it?"—he said "10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; will you come and look at it?—I said "I don't know you; I shall want some references as to your respectability, as you might have got it on hire"—he asked if I knew several people, and mentioned Mr. How—I said—No"—he said "He knows you; do you know Mr. Byoley, the solicitor?"—I said Yes, if you fetch him, and he refers to your respectability, I will look at the piano, not before," and about half an hour afterwards he came back with Mr. Byoley's clerk, who said "I have known this young man many years, and his father before him; he is a respectable man, and you may do business with him"—after that I went with How to his private house, looked at the piano, and asked him where he obtained it—he said "I bought it of Davis and Co., of Colbon Row; I have had it three years, and my wife has the receipt"—I asked him what business he was—he said "I am a bicycle manufacturer," and took me to his factory in a railway arch where he had a bench and tools and several bicyoles, two made up, and 30 or 40 wheels all round the place—I said "These are new machines"—he said "I have a chance of buying them; a man I know had an order for the machines, but when he went to deliver them he wanted him to take a bill for them, and if I can get another 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. besides selling the piano I can buy them"—I said "You can have 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. if you like, if you give me security"—he said that he had had to pay his father's funeral expenses, and was back in his rent, and wanted to sell the piano to pay his rent—he said "My father's illness has put me back a good deal in my position"—I went and got my brother-in-law to</p>
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<p>go and see the piano, which he did, and agreed to buy it for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and I lent another 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the bicycles on condition that they were delivered at the same time by the same van by my greengrocer—I wrote out this receipt "Received of George Hay 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for purchase of piano, the other 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. being a loan for two weeks on four bicycles, to be returned within two weeks or forfeited to Thomas Hancock"—that is not the one signed; I gave that to the cellarman, Bingle, with instructions—Hay, Jones, and Hancock wanted to know at what time they could have the goods—I went to the greengrocer, and found that I could have a van at 2 o'clock, but it did not come till 3 o'clock, when Jones, Bingle, and Hancock got into it, and I handed a note to Mr. Evans for him to collect some money—on the Tuesday evening Hay came and asked me to let him have 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said "No, business is business; when the bargain is concluded you can have your money"—he said "I can't give you the piano for security; I will fetch a bicycle, "which he did, and brought it through the bar, and took it upstairs into my bedroom, and I let him have 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I was also to give him 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for selling the piano to my brother, and 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to the gentleman who advanced the money on the bicycles, making 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I was to advance 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. more, 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. altogether making it 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. when Bingle left I went home to fetch the 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque from Mr. Evans, which he handed over—the bicycles and pianos were not delivered to me—I never saw them—they went straight to my brother—I saw Hancock again on the Tuesday, between 5 and 6 p.m.; he said "I want to speak to you very particularly"—I said "Very well, walk into the parlour"—he did so, and said "Look at this, "showing me a newspaper—I looked at it, and saw "Robbery of bicycles"—I said "What does it mean?"—he said "I believe by the description of the machines, being called 'Juno,' these are the very machines which you have got"—I said "What!"—he said "What are you going to do in the matter?"—I said "You will see," and sent for the police—he offered to go with me to the police, but I said "No"—he stopped till the police came, and said "Is there any chance of stopping Mr. Evans's cheque?"—I said "No, it is too late; they are sure to have got the money for it"—the police came, and I said "This is the man I received the bicycles of," and we all three went to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON. HOW</hi> came on the Thursday morning with Jones, rubbing his hands, and said "It is the first and the last transaction I will ever have with him," alluding to Hancock keeping him waiting for the money.,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I have said before that How said it was the first and last transaction, but not that he rubbed his hands—I did not say it to the Alderman; the Clerk was in a hurry to go, it being Saturday, and he said "Never mind that," but the Alderman said that my conduct was very commendable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-68" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-68" type="surname" value="BINGLE"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-68" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES"/>WILLIAM JAMES BINGLE</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Charles Hay, of the Devon Arms, Morning Lane, Hackney—on Thursday, 16th February, John Hay handed me 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in money, with instructions, and I hired a van, and went to Junction Place, Amherst Road, Hackney, a boot shop, and a piano and three bicycles were taken from that house and put in the van, but I had nothing to do with removing them—the two prisoners were there, and a man who I now know to be How—we drove to Mansford Street, Hackney Road, and called on Mr. Evans, who gave me a cheque for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
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<p>—we then all went to the Red Cross, Ayre Street, Bethnal Green, kept by Mr. George Hay; the van was unloaded, and the piano and three bicycles were left there—I handed Mr. Evans's cheque to Hancock, and the 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in money, and he signed this receipt—I left the prisoners and went away with the van.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. Jones was present—I did not see him go and get the cheque changed; I do not know that he touched it—Hancock does not keep the boot shop; he lives on the first floor as far as I know, and the piano was taken from the first floor—I have seen How and Jones in the Devon Arms—they have come in and made inquiries for Hancock—I saw them there on Monday night, the 15th.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-69" type="surname" value="EVANS"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-69" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE EVANS</persName> </hi>. I am a cabinet-maker, of 68, Mansford Street, Hackney Road—on Thursday, 16th February, Bingle came to me, and from what he said I gave him a cheque on the Central Bank, Shoreditch branch, payable to Hancock, which I have got at home—next day two men came, believe Jones is one; the other is Edmunds, who is outside—the man who I believe to be Jones said that the cheque was endorsed wrongfully, and asked me to give him another—I gave him another for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the name of Hancock—they came back later on, and wanted me to make it out in the name of Street instead of Hancock—I refused, but my daughter went into the street and cashed it, and I gave the proceeds to Edmunds—he said "It does not belong to me," and I gave it to Jones.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. Edmunds said that he had advanced Jones 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the cheque.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-70" type="surname" value="EDMUNDS"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-70" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS EDMUNDS</persName> </hi>. I am a hairdresser, of 82, Britannia Street, Hoxton—on Friday, 17th February, I went with Jones to Mr. Evans's, and got a cheque from him in the place of one which Jones had with him, and then Jones went back and wanted it changed for a third, because it was wrongly drawn—it was the wrong payee—he said that he could not find Harcourt, and therefore asked Mr. Evans to make it payable to himself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-71" type="surname" value="BACON"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-71" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL BACON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 16th February I went with Leeman and Wingrave to Amherst Road, Hackney—Wingrave pointed out Railway Arch 449, and 15, Junction Place, three doors from the arch; the lower part of the premises is occupied as a boot shop—I' watched the railway arch next day, Friday, and about 3 p. m. I saw a man unlock the door and go in; I at once went in with Mr. Wood, and saw a number of old machines and parts of machines, likewise two bicycles covered with canvas wrappers, which Mr. Wood identified, one of which is now produced.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. Those were the only ones identified by Mr. Wood.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-72" type="surname" value="SAVAGE"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-72" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SAVAGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 898). On Friday, 17th February, I kept observation on Hancock's house, 15, Junction Place, Amherst Road, Hackney, from 7. 30 a.m. to 5 p. m.—about 5 p. m. I saw the prisoner Jones going towards the house, and Hancock's wife, who had just spoken to me, beckoned to him to go towards her, and they both went into the doorway at the side of the arch, which has a passage round the back of the shop; Jones came out in a minute or so, and hurried away in the opposite direction to where I was standing—I followed him through several streets into Dalston Lane, where I stopped him and said "You will have to go back with me; I am a police officer; I am going to take,</p>
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<p>you in custody on suspicion of stealing bicycles"—he said "Let me go, I have done nothing"—he became very violent; I got assistance, and conveyed him to the arches, and round to Mrs. Hancock, and Leeman questioned her in Jones's presence—I then took him to the station—he was charged and made no reply—next morning, going to the Justice Room, he said "Hancock knows all about it, he gave me the key to go into the place, and told me it would not do for him to go anywhere near the place, as he is well known; that he got a loan of 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the four bicycles—I had 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and Hancock the other 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—Hancock was close behind at the time, but I cannot say that he could hear.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. It is 20 or 30 yards from the arch to Hancock's door, and I was watching about 50 yards from Hancock's house—Mrs. Hancock spoke to me; she had been out somewhere, and as she left me she went straight up to the arch and beckoned to Jones—that was the first time I saw Jones.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-73" type="surname" value="LEEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-73" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT LEEMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>), On 17th February, about 5 p.m., I was with Hunt at the archway—Savage brought Jones there, and I said "You answer the description of a man who stole six bicycles last Tuesday, from 75, Bishopsgate Street Without, and I shall charge you with that offence"—he said "I know nothing about it"—he was then taken to a boot shop, 15, Jerusalem Place, where Hancock lives; I knocked at the door, Mrs. Hancock answered it; I knew her, and said "So you know this man?" Jones—she hesitated, I repeated the question, and she said "Yes, I do, he called to see my husband this morning"—Hunt said "Is not this the man that you gave the keys of the arch to, on Tuesday morning, to put some things in?"—she again hesitated—Hunt repeated the question, and she said "Yes, he is"—Savage and Hunt took Jones to the station, and I took the bicycles—I afterwards went with Hunt to Hackney Police-station, and while I was there Sergeant Barnes brought Hancock in; I shook hands with him, having known him a number of years—I pointed to Hunt, and said "This is another officer, you must consider yourself in custody for being concerned in stealing and receiving six bicycles on the 14th instant, two of which were found in your arch in the Amherst Road"—I then cautioned him again as to anything he might say—he said. "I was introduced by a man named How to a man named Skinner, who said he had the machines for sale"—I said "Will you give me the description of Skinner?"—he did so—I said "That is the man we have in custody, he has given the name of Jones, we have the two machines and him at Bishopsgate Station"—Hay then produced the receipt—Hancock said that he had one of the machines at his house—I searched Hancock, left him at Hackney Station, and went with Hay and Hunt to the Devon Arms, and brought away a bicycle which has been identified—I then went to Bishopsgate Station, where Hancock was confronted with Jones, and said "That is the man I know as Skinner"—Jones made no reply, and they were both charged—I found on Jones 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., a pocket book, and a metal chain—I had already searched Hancock at the other station, and found 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and three keys, one of which is a padlock key which opened the railway arch 449.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-74" type="surname" value="BARNES"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-74" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED BARNES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant J. R.</hi> 4). On Friday evening, 17th February, I received a note, in consequence of which I went to the Deven Arms about 6. 30 p.m., where I saw Hay and Hancock—Hay said to me "Ihave something to tell you respecting the burglary; a few days ago I</p>
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<p>bought a piano of Hancock for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and after that he showed me some bicycles, and asked me if I would lend him a loan on two or three; I said yes, provided I hold them as security, I agreed to lend him 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on three; later in the day he came to me and asked me to lend him 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on one, I said 'Yes, bring it round,' which he did; the following day, Thursday, I sent the van by the potman, with some money, to remove the piano and bicycles to my brother's house in Bethnal Green; this afternoon Hancock came to me and said 'Do you know that them bicycles have been stolen,' and showed me a paper and asked me if I could cash the cheque, I said 'No, it is too late, I have one of the machines upstairs; get a cab and take it away, for God's sake, I will pay the cab fare'"—I asked Hancock to come to the station with me—on the way to the station he said "It is How and Skinner that has done this for me;. they came to me on Monday, and How asked me if I could do With half a dozen bicycles; I said 'No, trade is too bad;' the following day they brought the bicycles during my absence, and put them in the workshop, my wife gave them the key; later in the day they came to me and How asked me 36
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on them; I said I had not got 36
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. but knowing him and that he had been in the trade and had things to dispose of at times, I would assist him if I could, and we all went together to Mr. Triggs, of Stoke Newington, thinking he might take one or two; how offered them to me and received the money; Skinner is the man."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. I knew Hancock before—he had not been to the station before—I left the station at 6. 30 and went to Bishopsgate Station and informed the City officers, and on my return Hancock came into the station with Hay—he had been allowed to leave.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Hancock received a good character, but Detective Leeman stated that he had known him about ten years, and up to the last three years as a respectable man, since when he had been going to the bad.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Jones's Defence.</hi> Mr. Hancock offered to give me 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the bicycles, and gave me a key to enter the premises; I was out of work, and he said he could put something in my way, and said "Take the key down and bring the bicycles up"—when the carman saw me go round the corner Mr. Hancock was there to receive them—I said to the carman "You had better go and take them"—I went to Mrs. Hancock and asked her to give me the key—if I was guilty I would acknowledge it.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">Jones then</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction at Clerkenwell on</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th February</hi>, 1883,
<hi rend="italic">in the name of
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-75" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>George Skinner</persName>, and he was out on ticket of leave.</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JONES</hi>**—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-398-18880319 t18880319-398-punishment-13"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HANCOCK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, March</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. HORACE AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-77" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-77" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN THORLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective H</hi>). On the night of 29th February a woman was arrested and charged with uttering a counterfeit coin—she gave an address, in consequence of which I went about 6 o'clock to 7, Dakin</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Street, Limehouse Fields</hi>—the
<hi rend="italic">prisoner opened the door</hi>—I said "Is your name Smith?"—he said "No—I said "There is a woman charged at Arbour Square with uttering counterfeit coin in the name of Smith, and she has given an address at this house"—he said "Yes, it is my wife"—I said "How do you account for your name not being Smith?"—he said "I have reasons for it"—I said "How do you account for your wife having the counterfeit money in her possession?"—he said "All I know is that last night I was in Aldgate, and I carried a portmanteau for a gentleman; he gave me nine penny pieces and 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., making 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in all, and I gave her four out of that"—I said "Have you any more money about you?"—he said "No, I have not"—I said "I shall have to search your place"—we went into the front room ground floor, which he said was the room he occupied—in. the cupboard on the left hand side of the fireplace I found this punch secreted in the corner near the fireplace, this flat iron without a handle, and this tin, with some pieces of lead, with impressions of pennies on them, and cuttings of copper—on the top of the cupboard, behind some dishes, in a lot of newspaper I found a piece of sheet tin and also a piece of sheet copper—also on the top of the cupboard I found three files, a soldering iron, a pair of metal shears, a tin with some solder, and a pot with spirits of salts and acid for soldering; some is left—I judge it is spirits of salts, and the prisoner said it was—I found the tin containing solder, two discs of tin just the size of a penny; they fit the punch—they have apparently been cut out with the punch—I said to the prisoner "I shall take you into custody for having these things in your possession for the purpose of making counterfeit coin"—he said "I should have thought it would have taken something better than that to have made it with"—I asked him what he had the implements for, and he said "I have been out of work for some weeks, and I got them for the purpose of doing odd jobs for the neighbours"—on the following day, after the remand, I went again to the room about 1 o'clock—I got hold of a stick and raked away at the chimney, and brought down a great quantity of soot and some brickwork, and amongst it were pieces of copper with impressions of pennies on it—the copper was of the same thickness and kind as that which I had found before—I noticed then about a dozen circular marks burnt on the floor by the side of the fireplace of the size of a penny.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I have had a little experience amongst coiners, not much—I can't say I have ever known such rubbish as this used by coiners, but I have never come into connection with copper coining before—I have never seen such things as these in a working man's house before—I never saw a soldering iron of this description before in a working man's house—if I had found these in your house, whether your wife had been charged with uttering, or any other offence, I should have called these coining tools and taken you into custody for having them—you had ample time to destroy everything between the arrest of your wife and my coming to the premises—it was 12 or 1 when she was arrested, and about 6 when I came—when I got to the house there was a large fire burning, with a blue flame—I mentioned that to you, and you said you were burning old boots—I examined the ashes; there was nothing burnt—I saw bluish liquid in a teacup, and I asked you if it was acid—I did not take it away because I did not consider it was acid—I have used those kind of things; I can tell acid by the smell—I saw something resembling</p>
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<p>soda on the sideboard—I did not ask you if that was not soda; it was ammonia—I saw a book of gold leaf—I did not bring that away because I did not consider it necessary; it would not be useful for coining—I asked you what you had it for—I did not see a hammer—I did not search the chimney thoroughly on the first occasion; you had too large a fire—I looked up as far as I could and felt just round the edge—I searched the place in your presence, and after I took you to the station I came back, not to search, but to bring this flat iron to the station—the landlady came in the room with me then—I came to the room the third time on the next morning; the landlady was present then—I only searched the chimney then—she saw me hook this out—your place was impoverished—I found pawntickets for amounts from 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. up to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I did not see anything pawnable in the room—I consider this punch could be used with a heavy wooden mallet, of possibly 4 lb. weight, not a very heavy one—I think a person partly paralysed could hold the punch with one hand and strike a sufficiently heavy blow with a 4 lb. mallet—my impression it this punch has been used with a wooden mallet; it is rather blunt now, but it has been fit to cut anything—you gave no explanation about the lead—you did not say you bought it to make solder, that being cheaper than buying it—these counterfeit pennies are composed of tin inside and very thin copper outside.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I can't say what sort of blue fire it was I saw burning; metal or brimstone will cause blue fire—it looked like something unusual—I never knew an old boot produce a blue flame—I found some blue liquid also in a cup—it might have been a little bluestone put into water.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-78" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC THOMPSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 425). I took a woman into custody on the afternoon of 29th February for uttering a counterfeit penny—she was charged by Mr. Standish, a greengrocer, who at the time handed me these counterfeit pence—the woman handed me these two other counterfeit pence—I took her to Arbour Street Station, and she there gave the address, 7, Dakin Street, Limehouse Fields—(
<hi rend="italic">Agnes Smith was here put into the dock</hi>)—that is the woman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-80" type="given" value="ESTHER"/>ESTHER JOHNSON</persName> </hi>. I live at 7, Dakin Street, Limehouse Fields—I am the landlady of that house—I let the front parlour to the prisoners wife on 18th July, and from that time up to the time they were taken into custody he and his wife occupied it—I occupied two rooms above them—the only sign of any business being carried on there that I heard was knocking, like hammering; whether it was on the walls or where I could not say—it was at all times, up to late at night—I never saw the prisoner at work there; I never went into their room—the door was never opened, so I could never see inside—Mrs. Smith used to pay the rent; she would bring it up to me—she owes me 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> Your wife took in washing—she nursed me in my confinement, and so paid off some of the rent—I never saw any tools</p>
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<p>in your possession—you mended my teapot; I did not pay for that—you used to pay the rent—your wife has often borrowed a few eggs of me and has given me two halfpence for a penny.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. The prisoner went out to jobs at wool sales—I never saw him take in any things to repair for neighbours—Mrs. Smith told me he had been paralysed by working in the lead factory—I knew them in the name of Ogin.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-81" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint—I have seen these articles and these five counterfeit pence—the pence are made in a very primitive way—first of all he cuts out two discs of copper with this punch, and then a good penny is put underneath it, and by rubbing with a piece of wood or something harder, an impression is taken of the top and bottom of the penny—the copper would be heated previously, I should say, to make it softer and take a better impression—then a circular disc of tin is put between the discs of copper, and they are soldered together—the punch could be used for the purpose of cutting out these discs of metal—it is near enough to the size—the impression would be somewhat larger—the counterfeit penny is slightly larger, I think, than a good penny—the blue liquid found might have been some copper solution to bronze the copper, as sheetcopper is pure copper, and the bronze coin is 95 parts copper, 4 tin, and I zinc—these coins have been made with these implements—there is also a halfpenny here; he must have had a separate punch for that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> The interior of these is composed of sheet-tin; I have seen some of it—the tin is not visible on the edge, because you have filed it down—it is done in a very careless way—the edge has been filed right round.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence said that as soon as he heard his wife was in custody he went to the police-court and tendered his evidence, and that he had plenty of time between</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">o'clock to make away with the things.</hi> </p>
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<p>391.
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<hi rend="italic">repeated his former evidence.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ISAAC THOMPSON</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 425). On 29th February Agnes Smith was given into my custody—these coins, 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., were given me by Mr. Standish at the same time—Mr. Standish asked her if she knew the penny was bad—she said no, she did not—he said to me "I took 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from her last night, also bad"—she did not answer—I asked her if she knew the penny was pad—she said "No, I did not know it was bad"—I asked her if she had any more money in her possession—she said "Yes," and handed me these two pennies, which are of the same description and date as the others—I told her she would have to come to the station—she said nothing then—when she got to the station she said she did not know they were bad; she sold fusees in the street, and must have got them that way—in answer to the charge she repeated that she must have got them by selling matches in the street—she was searched; nothing else was found on her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The evidence given by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN THORLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ESTHER JOHNSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">in the former case was read to them by the shorthand writer, to which they assented, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ESTHER JOHNSON</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">further Cross-examined by William Smith, added:</hi> The constable</p>
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<p>returned to the room after he had taken you to the police-station—he did not search the room—I was standing by the door—he took one or two things out of the cupboard—he searched up the chimney next day—I got no bad coin from the prisoners.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-85" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are counterfeit pence.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Agnes Smith's Statement before the Magistrate."</hi> I know nothing about it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">William Smith in his defence said the money his wife had he gave to her, and that whatever blame there was must rest on him.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Agnes Smith was recommended to mercy by the Jury, as she seemed to be in great poverty.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM SMITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="italic">
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<p>392.
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<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-87" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-87" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH KENT</persName> </hi>. I live at 32, Marchmont Street, Russell Square, and am assistant to my sister, Amelia Kent, at a tobacconist's shop there—on the evening of 2nd March the prisoner came in for a pennyworth of peppermint, and gave me a bad sixpence—I said "Have you any more?"—he said "What did you say?"—I said "Have you any more?"—he said "No"—my sister came and shut the door of the shop, and asked him where he got it from—he said he had a halfpenny, and pulled a halfpenny out of his pocket—a constable was sent for, and when he came the prisoner was searched, and a purse containing 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found on him—he was taken to the station, where I went as well—shortly before he came in two other counterfeit sixpences had been uttered at our shop—I gave those two and the one which the prisoner had given me to the constable; these are they—the 2nd March was the first evening I had seen the prisoner—he was alone—I did not see anybody waiting outside the shop—when I went to the station there were a lot of people outside attracted by seeing the constable inside—I did not take the other sixpences from the prisoner.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant E</hi> 36). On 2nd March I was called to 32, Marchmont Street, where I found the prisoner detained by the two Miss Kents, one of whom gave the prisoner into custody for passing this bad sixpence—they gave me this, and two other sixpences—the prisoner said a gentleman gave the sixpence to him for holding his horse in White Cross Street outside a public-house, but he did not know the name of the public-house—I asked him the name of the public-house—he said "I don't know where it is situated"—he was searched in the shop, and I found on him a purse with 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in it, and a halfpenny in his pocket—he was taken to the station and charged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-89" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-89" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These three sixpences are bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "On Friday night I was going along with a barrow, and I met three chaps, who coaxed me to go into the shop with this sixpence; they made me go into the shop, saying if I would not they would kill me."</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-392a-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He then</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>**
<hi rend="italic">†to a conviction of feloniously possessing counterfeit coin, in February</hi>, 1886.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, March</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1888</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-394a-offence-1 t18880319-name-93"/>Daniel Gawn</persName> and others four travelling bags, having been convicted of felony at this Court in June, 1886.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-394a-18880319 t18880319-394a-punishment-19"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES PARSONS</hi> (22)</persName>, and
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-395a-offence-1 t18880319-name-97"/>John Willison</persName>, and stealing a watch-chain, his property.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRANSTOUN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Parsons, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Edwards.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-98" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WILLISON</persName> </hi>. I live at 93, Kelvin Road, Highbury Park—about 12. 40 p. m. on 8th March I was in Goswell Road—a man struck me on my face—I was surrounded by three others—I called "Police"—I heard a whistle blow, and immediately saw the prisoners—in a few seconds they ran into the policeman's arms—I lost my watch-chain—this is it; it hung in front—I had my overcoat over it—I had no watch.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I left business at 9 o'clock—I called at a public-house in Pentonville—I stayed there about three-quarters of an hour—I left about 12. 30—I had been in places I usually go and sit of an evening on my way home—I had dined in the City—the house in Pentonville was the last I called at—I sometimes stayed there in the evening—the whole thing happened in a few seconds—the spot where it happened was fairly well lighted—I had never seen any of the prisoners before to my knowledge—I overtook them—they were in front of me—I could not mistake them—Parsons knocked me down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. There were other people in the street—the prisoners came from behind when I was knocked down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-99" type="surname" value="WOODWARD"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-99" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WOODWARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 214). I was in Goswell Road—I saw four men running, and heard the prosecutor shout "Police," and "Stop them, they have got my chain"—I ran after them, and caught Edwards—Policeman G 311 caught Davis—Edwards said "All right, you have made a mistake; I am a respectable man."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. Edwards might have said "It was not me; I was not there"—I was coming up Goswell Road—the prisoners were at the corner of Hall Street—I was only a few yards off—I could see the robbery plainly—I saw one man on the ground, and others on the top of him—I ran up to them, and overtook them in about 10 yards—they all ran in the same direction.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-100" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER HAMMOND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 311). I was with Woodward—I saw the prosecutor on the ground, and five persons round him—four of them ran away—the prosecutor shouted "Stop, they have got my chain"—Policeman G 214 and I followed them, and caught two of the prisoners—the other two were caught by an un uniform man—the prosecutor identified the one that robbed him—at the station we found the chain on Davis, who was not identified.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. I was on the opposite side of the way when the prosecutor was on the ground.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-101" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR NORRISS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 299). I was in Goswell Road when I heard a policeman's whistle and a cry of "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoners passing, and stopped Parsons and asked him what he was running for—he said "I have done nothing"—I held him till the prosecutor came up, and he identified him as one of the men who had knocked him down—I took him to the station and he was charged—he said "I have done nothing."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I met the prisoners about 200 yards from the corner of Hall Street—Parsons was running in my direction—he did not say "I never did it "till he got to the station—he gave an address; I found he lived there, and that Edwards lodged in the same house—I am not aware of his character—we could not get the address of his former employers, so I could not make any inquiries—I saw the landlady and she refused it—she said she would make inquiries herself, and the witness would attend at the Court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Davis in his defence said that he saw the chain on the pavement, and put it in his pocket; that he heard a cry for a constable, and one took him by the collar and took him to the station, but he was not guilty. Edwards received a good character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SAUNDERS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MORTON COATES FISHER</hi>. I live at 45, Gerrard Street, Soho—about 12. 30 a. m. on 24th February I was returning home through Wardour Street to Gerrard Street—two women caught hold of my arms; I pushed them off—at the corner of Gerrard Street some young men surrounded me—the prisoner is one of them—they were standing by a public-house—they shoved me against the railings—I broke away, and they again surrounded me, and the prisoner snatched my chain and put his knee against me so as to set me against the railings of the house, and he tried to trip me up, and kicked my ankle, so that I was in bed the next day, and then snatched my chain—his accomplices were around him—I called "Police!"—the men dispersed and I followed the prisoner—on my chain was a gold locket, a gold tablet, and a wedding-ring—I complained to the police in Leicester Square—on Sunday, the 26th, I went to Vine Street and identified the prisoner from five or six others—I looked at another man for a moment who resembled him, but I have no doubt the prisoner is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. More than five men surrounded me—I did not see that the prisoner had a black eye—I wore glasses—the men hustled me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>by the prisoner and others; they hustled him—they made their way out of Gerrard Street followed by Fisher—I did not see the actual robbery—I had previously seen the prisoner at a public-house at the corner of Gerrard Street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. I did not notice whether Dudley had his arm in a sling.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-107" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE CHALK</persName> </hi>. I live at 1, Canvas Street, near Middlesex Hospital—I was standing at the corner of Gerrard Street on 24th February, and saw Fisher accosted by two women and several men—the prisoner is one of them—they hustled him—I saw them leave him—I am sure the prisoner was amongst those who hustled him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant C</hi>). From information I received I arrested the prisoner on Saturday night, the 25th, from a description Fisher gave me—I said "
<hi rend="italic">Mike</hi>, I am a police-officer; I am going to take you into custody for stealing a watch and pendant yesterday morning, just about here, in Gerrard Street"—he replied "All right, sir; I will come with you"—that was in a public-house—he was taken to the station and placed with nine others, and Fisher identified him—when he was charged he made no answer, but while the charge was being taken he said "You are making it hot for me"—I said "I cannot help it; you hear what the gentleman has said"—he said, looking to Fisher, "Do you say I kicked you?"—he said "Yes, I do," and the prisoner said "I did not kick you"—I found nothing on him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. What he said to the prosecutor was "I was there, but I did not kick him," and then "You are making it hot for me; you are charging me with highway robbery with violence"—he appeared to have had two black eyes, but they did not show much—he had not his arm in a sling.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">He then</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY*</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction of felony at Marlborough Street in March</hi>, 1887.—
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SAUNDERS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-111" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-111" type="given" value="ALBERT JAMES"/>ALBERT JAMES HANNAM</persName> </hi>. I am porter to Thomas Steer and Co., of 89, Steining Lane—on 10th March, about 12. 30 p.m., I was going out of my employer's office—I saw the prisoner crossing Lillipot Lane wheeling a perambulator—I recognised it as one belonging to Miss Ashton, and which had been left in our yard—I made inquiries, and then looked after the prisoner, and on 12th March I identified him from several others at Moor Lane Police-station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I am sure it was half-past 12 and not 12—I was going to deliver some goods and then looked after you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I have no doubt the prisoner is the man I saw with the perambulator.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-112" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-112" type="surname" value="SHEPPARD"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-112" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA SHEPPARD</persName> </hi>. I am employed by Miss Ashton, of 69, Graham Road, Dalston—I take goods every morning to Messrs. Steer and Co.—on this Saturday morning I went there, and left my perambulator in the yard—about half-past 12 I missed it, and Hannam spoke to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> I am sure it was half-past 12 and not 12—I never said it was 12.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-113" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-113" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-113" type="surname" value="BENHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-113" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BENHAM</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 105). On 10th March I went to a</p>
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<p>common lodging-house at Spitalfields and saw the prisoner—I took him to Moor Street Police-station, where he was placed with others and identified by Hannam—he made no reply to the charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18880319-398a-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18880319-398a-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-398a-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. —
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18880319-398a-punishment-21" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-398a-punishment-21" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-398a-18880319 t18880319-398a-punishment-21"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, March</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st</hi> 1888.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<p>399.
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<interp inst="def1-399-18880319" type="age" value="45"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL HUNTER</hi> (45)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18880319-399-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-399-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-399-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to unlawfully obtaining by false pretences certain valuable securities, with intent to defraud;</rs>
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<interp inst="t18880319-399-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-399-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>
<hi rend="italic">also</hi> to a forgery at Common Law.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18880319-399-punishment-22" type="punishmentCategory" value="noPunish"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-399-18880319 t18880319-399-punishment-22"/>Judgment respited</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>400.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZA ANN SMITH</hi> (26)</persName> and
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<interp inst="def2-400-18880319" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZA MILLINGS</hi> (47)</persName>
<rs id="t18880319-400-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18880319-400-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="sexual"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-400-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="keepingABrothel"/>, Unlawfully endeavouring to procure
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-117" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-400-offence-1 t18880319-name-117"/>Catherine Spencer</persName>, a girl under 21 years of age, for an immoral purpose.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MEAD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LAWLESS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Millings.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SMITH</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18880319-400-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18880319-400-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-400-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. —
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18880319-400-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-400-punishment-23" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-400-18880319 t18880319-400-punishment-23"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MILLINGS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18880319-400-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18880319-400-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-400-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>*.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18880319-400-punishment-24" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-400-punishment-24" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-400-18880319 t18880319-400-punishment-24"/>Two Years' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, March</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>401.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">DAVID CURTAIN</hi> (29)</persName>,
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-401-offence-1 t18880319-name-121"/>Charles Grindon</persName>, and stealing a watch, chain, bronze medal, and 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., his goods and moneys.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BROXHOLM</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Curtain;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended White and Briggs.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-122" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-122" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES GRINDON</persName> </hi>. I live at 27, Barnsbury Street, Islington, and am a seaman—between 1 and 2 o'clock on the early morning of 7th March I was in Upper Street, Islington, on my way home—I was stopped by a. female, and went with her to the Chamberlain Club, which is about 12 or 13 doors from where the Grand Theatre was—as soon as the door was opened I ran in—when I got into the passage several men were there—one of them said "We know this gentleman; he has been here before 'I—I saw the proprietor White behind the bar serving; he could hear all that was said—I saw Briggs in the small room—the first thing they said after the door was shut was "This is better; there is more room here"—one man, not one of the prisoners, said that—drinks were called for—White served and stood at the end of the bar nearest the little room, close to where we were, waiting for payment, I suppose—Briggs was in the room, and everybody's backs were to the counter except myself—they were talking about chest measurement—I buttoned up my coat tight and moved towards the door, with the intention of opening it—the man not in custody put his back against the door to prevent my doing so—they shoved me back into the middle of the room again—one man took my right arm and Curtain my left, and raised them above my head—I with a loud voice said "What can I do? what can I do but stand here and be robbed? let me out"—White was at this time standing at the same end of the counter—I said "Open the door and let me out"—White turned</p>
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<p>on his heel and walked to the other end of the bar—as soon as he turned his back my coat was forced open by a man who stood in front of me—by the time White had got to the end of the bar two men were tugging one at my chain and one at my watch; between them they broke the chain—Curtain was in the room on my right then; he was not holding up my hands then—as soon as they got my watch and chain they dropped my arms—they broke my chain by pulling it—I said in a loud voice "Oh, don't; my father's chain; don't take that; if you will give me my watch and chain back I will give you 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—then some man not in custody said "All right, old man; give" or "show us 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. "Iforget which," and you shall have your watch and chain"—at that time one man had the watch in his hand and another man had the chain, which they had broken—the watch was broken from the bar—I said "I cannot" or "Iwon't give you the money now; you come up to my rooms, and then I will give you 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—then Curtain immediately came round to my left side, took my left hand, and the other man took my right hand, and raised them up, and a man not in custody rifled my pockets of the money—I had in my upper waistcoat pockets a 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note and 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in gold and silver—that was taken from me—they had not discovered that pocket before, but when I spoke about giving them 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. they immediately seized me again and found it—I lost nothing else except a bronze medal—then they let go of me, and one man wanted me to have a drink; I would not have anything—I left very shortly afterwards—as I was going out of the club I said "All right; I know the house; you will hear of it again"—I have not seen my watch and chain since—the value of it is about 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I should say, when I got outside, I made a communication to the first policeman I saw; that was a good distance up Upper Street—I did not go to the police-station that night, but next morning I did about 8 a. m.—I made a complaint there; nothing was done till the evening, when I went to the club again with two constables, Cummings and Simpkins, at about 8 o'clock—we went in the small room where I was robbed—I could not say where Briggs was when I was robbed; I saw him one or one and a half minutes before—we were served at the small counter—at the time I wanted to get out Briggs was near the lobby door, on my right, standing, facing me sideways—I was facing the door and he was facing the partition; he had not got his back to the door—he was in the room about 2 feet from me, I should think—when I went in with the constables the next evening White was there behind the bar—the constables asked White some questions; how many members there were and such questions—while we were talking Curtain and another man, if not two others, came in—Curtain came up to the counter, did not speak a word or order anything, but left suddenly very shortly after he came in, having waited a minute perhaps—Cummings said "Come on," and went out—I followed them out, and then recognised Curtain in the street, and gave him into custody—we went to the station, where Curtain was charged—he made no answer—the policemen were in plain clothes—Briggs and White came down next day to give evidence at the police-court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. My rooms are about 20 minutes from this club—I left my room about 11 o'clock I suppose—I went home and had tea at 6, and had been at home four or five hours, I should say, before I went out at 11—I had been to the docks that day—I had been paid off some time—I was merely looking out for a ship—I called in two</p>
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<p>public-houses that day, and stopped two minutes in each I should say, time to get a glass of ale—nobody came home with me at 6—I only had tea at home—at 11 I went down Upper Street as far as the Angel for a walk; I called in nowhere—I went to the club about 12—I was walking about till nearly 12 by myself the whole time—a little before 12 I called in at a public house in Upper Street, where I remained ten minutes I should say—I met two strangers there, I asked them to have a drink, they would not, but said "Come down to our club and you can have something there"—I did not talk about my voyages, or say I was a seafaring man, I made one or two remarks—then I went to the club and had two glasses of ale, White served me—I had nothing stronger—I was there about three quarters of an hour—I noticed Briggs at the outer hall door then—the only refreshment I had during the three quarters of an hour was two or it might be three glasses of ale; I ordered nothing to be put in the ale, it might have been—when I came out I was going home; the public-houses were closed—I met a lady in Upper Street, by Collins's Music Hall, and had a conversation with her—I had never seen her before—we had about ten minutes' walk; we walked straight to the club, she took me to the club—she said she knew where she could get a drink—I went with her to the door of the club; she rapped at the door, and when the door was opened she was not allowed in, and I ran in because they would not allow her in, and I thought perhaps they would not allow me—when I went in the second time I had had a little to drink—there were 25 or 30 people there I should think—the men who surrounded me were all strangers to me—I was in there about a quarter of an hour—I had not looked at my watch since I went in the club the first time; that was before I met the lady—I looked at the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in my pocket before I met the lady, when I went in the club the first time—I looked at it when I changed the other 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the public-house with the strangers—there were no ladies in the public-house—I changed one 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.note and put the other back with the change in the top pocket—I never looked at my money after that till I got to the club later on—I met a policeman afterwards, he did not go back with me to the club—I made a complaint to him, and pointed in the direction where this had happened—he said "You must nave had a lot of money on you"—a child called him away to go somewhere—I mentioned the wrong club to him, I mentioned the Wellington—I went straight home—next day I went to the club about 8 p. m.—I don't think there was anyone in front of the bar then—Curtain came in and after a little while went out—I almost immediately followed him out, and saw him in a little narrow street towards Islington Green—the policeman went up to him first, I said "That is one of them."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. My coat was not buttoned up when I went into the club—anybody could see I had got a watch.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. My morning coat was unbuttoned when I was walking with the lady in Upper Street—I had no overcoat on—my chain was showing—I have not lived in Islington before—I was three weeks in Barnsbury Street—I knew the neighbourhood pretty well; I don't know the names of the streets—on the first examination before the Magistrates I saw White and Briggs outside the police-court—I knew they were invited to come and give evidence, and they did come—I gave them into custody afterwards on the suggestion of the Magistrate</p>
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<p>—I said to the constable I thought White did not take part in the robbery, he did not actually do it—I said Briggs was in the room while the robbery took place—I did not say Briggs did not see the robbery being committed, nor that I did not think he saw it—I swear he saw it committed—I swear he was in the room, I cannot swear he saw it—he was in the small room, I won't swear he saw it—I cannot say Briggs ever put a finger on me—White never touched me—neither Briggs nor White touched me—the counter was between me and White—there was some boasting about chest measurement, as to who was 42 inches round the chest; some said they were 38 and 40, and some said they were not—I did not allow my chest to be measured—the moment it was proposed I moved towards the door, and I would not let them—they attempted to measure me; they tried to undo my coat; I buttoned it up immediately—when the men proposed measuring me at one end of the bar, the prisoner White turned on his heel and walked to the farther end of the bar, some yards away—he was at the opposite end of the bar at the actual time of the robbery—I was standing in the centre of the room when I was robbed—I said White must have seen it—I swear he must have seen all that was going on—I was a little the worse for drink—I said it was the Wellington Club because it was a strange club to me, and I had forgotten the name—I knew a club in Northampton of that name, and it came into my head—the police-station in Upper Street is 15 minutes' walk from this club—I knew I had left the men who stole my watch and money behind in the club—I did not go into the police-station on my way home and ask the inspector to send a man round with me, because I did not notice the police-station; I saw it afterwards—I did not know it when I went to the club, I remembered it next morning—I said at the police-court White did not actually rob me, he was not one of the men that held me—I did not say I did not think he had anything to do with the robbery.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I did not know that evening where the police-station was, I did not see it till next day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I said I did not think White had anything to do with the robbery; he had not anything actually to do with it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. I was close to him; there was only the bar between us when I went with the two detectives to the club on the night following—White did not move to the other end of the bar until after I said "What can I do but stand here and be robbed?"—Briggs was standing close to me at the time—I saw him there when I was prevented going out of the room about two minutes before the robbery—I did not notice where he was at the time I called out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BROXHOLM</hi>. I saw Curtain put the handkerchief round one man, pretending to measure him, and he also put it round himself—I am perfectly certain I had the watch when I went in—I applied to White for protection; I looked at him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. I called out loudly—I applied generally to be let out—White was within hearing—I went away without making any formal complaint to any one in authority—a policeman did not come with me; I did not ask him—a child came for him, and he went with her—I did not think it necessary to go farther to get another policeman—I did not consider it my duty to take further steps to recover my property—it was 20 minutes since I had left the club, and I knew the men had gone—I went</p>
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<p>to the station the first thing in the morning—I thought that would be in time to report the case.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-123" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CUMMINGS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi>). On the evening of 7th March I went in plain clothes with the prosecutor and Simpkins to the Chamberlain Club—I saw White behind the bar in the small room—the prosecutor was on my right—I said "Mr. White, this gentleman complains of having been robbed in this club early this morning, and of having lost his watch and chain, a 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in gold and silver, and a medal"—he said "That is strange; I did not see anything of it"—the prosecutor said "Yes, you must have seen something of it; you were behind the bar"—at that time Curtain with two others entered the club—White was still looking at me—I noticed him wave his right arm—he was looking me in the face at the time—when White made that signal the three men left immediately—I and the prosecutor and Simpkins followed the men out—a short distance lower down from the club I stopped Curtain—the prosecutor said "Yes, that is one of them"—I said to Curtain "You hear what this man says; you are one of the men that assisted in robbing him at the club this morning"—I then told him the nature of the charge—when the charge was read to him at the station he replied "All right, sir."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I first saw the prosecutor shortly after 9 a.m.—I went to the club that morning, but I did not see White, and we went in the evening—when Curtain came in nobody was in the house besides myself, Simpkins, and the prosecutor—I and Simpkins were in plain clothes—White signalled to Curtain and the other two and they all three left—it was done so openly, I and the other officer could see it—I spoke to Curtain about 20 yards from the club—I took him by the arm—the prosecutor said at once "That is one of them"—I said "You hear what this man said, that you are the one that held his arm and assisted in robbing him"—he said nothing, I am quite certain—the other officer was close by—he could hear everything that took place I should say—he said "All right" at the station—he said nothing before he got there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. I asked White to come to the station next day, as he might be wanted to give evidence—I did not see Briggs—I had no intention then of charging him—Mr. Barstow was the Magistrate—I cannot say if he suggested that he should be taken into custody; I did not hear him—Sewell took him into custody—I was in Court while the case was being heard—as far as I know it was not Mr. Barstow's suggestion—Sewell signed the charge-sheet—the prosecutor said White must have known something about it—when I and Simpkins and the prosecutor went in we were in the small room—I was the only one in conversation with him—the others were quite close to him—the prosecutor was a little on my right; the other constable was just behind me; it is a very small place—I and the prosecutor were facing White at the bar—we were all looking one way—the prosecutor was within two feet of White—White moved his right arm, and the men immediately left the house—they entered, and then went out—White said he knew nothing about this matter—Curtain and the other two men came through the lobby into the long bar here; it is all one bar; it is a very small club indeed.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-124" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SIMPKINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi>), On this night I went with</p>
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<p>Cummings to the Chamberlain Club—we entered the club with the prosecutor, and went into the small compartment, and we called Mr. White from the other end of the counter—Cummings said "This gentleman complains of being robbed in the club last evening"—White said it must be a mistake, as he had never seen him before—three men then entered the club, Curtain being one of them—they came into the large compartment—White leant over, put his arm through the flap round the corner, and waved to the men to go out—the three men immediately left—we immediately left the club with the prosecutor, and walked up High Street and stopped Curtain—the prosecutor said "I charge this man with robbing me of my watch and chain and money in the club"—Cummings took hold of one arm, I took hold of the other—Curtain made no reply—we took him to the station—he was charged and said "All right"—I apprehended Briggs on the following morning when he came to the police-court—I told him the charge—he said "I know nothing at all about this; you know I could not do it"—he was taken into the charge room and charged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. When he came up to Curtain and told him the charge he said "He has made a mistake, I will go with you."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. I know White, he is a manufacturer of bookshelf edging, and deals in oilcloths, three doors from the club, which is his property—I have known him about ten years—I have been attached to the G division eleven years odd, and during the time I have been there I have known him as a respectable man as far as I know him—I have known Briggs about three years I should think, he is the doorkeeper; he is a respectable man too so far as I know him, I never saw him in any trouble—White when he moved his arm was standing in a leaning position facing us—he did not turn round; just turned his head, and his right arm came under the flap of the long counter—the flap was on his right hand side—I believe the prosecutor and constable and everybody could see him waving his hand—he said he never saw this man in his life—White said on the evening we went in there with the prosecutor he never saw the man before—I have not made a note of the conversation, it is the leader who has to take notes—I left it to Sewell to take a note—I did not take a note because Sewell is in charge of this case—Sewell was not present on this occasion, he was on another, he made a note when he made the inquiry after that—White and I had no conversation; he had the conversation with Cummings, and it was Cummings's duty to report it, and not mine—I did not hear anything else than "It is very strange, I never saw anything of it"—I know White did say he never saw the prosecutor—I did not mention that at the Court below because I was not asked—I should say that statement was in favour of White—I did not mention this in favour of White before, because in the police-court the evidence gets put in shorter—if I was sent to make inquiry I should report accurately the conversation that took place between the prisoner and the man who arrested him—I believe the prosecutor said to White he must have seen something of it; there was something to that effect—the word was "something."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. When the club first started it was respectable, but it has turned out very rough lately, because the members get the roughs in one at a time in the evening and they overrule White and he cannot control</p>
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<p>them—it has been open four or five years—when the Clarendon broke up the members came into this—members can take in friends; they take in a dozen sometimes, and the biggest thieves about the Angel get in there—this is a house we have had a great deal of trouble with.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-125" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR SEWELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Deteetive Sergeant G</hi>). At 10 o'clock on 7th March I went to the Chamberlain Club, where I saw White—I said to him "Will you give me the names and addresses of those persons who were in this small bar between 1 and 2 o'clock this morning?"—he said "I don't know who they were; there were six or seven of them"—I said, pointing to the prosecutor, "This young man states that he was robbed here"—I put it down—he said "I know nothing of it"—Grindon said "Oh, yes you do. I called to you 'Let me out! let me out!' You turned on your heel and went up to the other end of the bar; that was when they were measuring me"—White said "Yes, they were not robbing you then"—I then asked White to give me the names and address of any one who was in the house at that time—he gave me the name of William Galbraith, no address; Mr. Asfeldt, 19, Madeira Road; Mr. Briggs, 96, Cloudesley Road, and Mr. Fagan, Church Passage—he said "I could not see anything of it, as I was up at the other end of the bar at the time"—I asked him again to give me the name of any one who was in that small bar—he said he could not do so," they may not have been members"—I asked him if he knew a man named Curtain—he said "No"—I said "Then he is not a member?"—he said "No"—I went with the prosecutor and the last two witnesses—I arrested White on the following day after the evidence of the prosecutor before the Magistrate—I said to the prosecutor "Will you charge White now?"—he said yes, he would—he went outside the Court with me, and I saw White and Briggs standing together, and he said "That is another of them," pointing to Briggs, "and I will charge them both"—I arrested White, and said "This man," pointing to the prosecutor, "charges you with being concerned in that robbery"—White said "He cannot prove that I touched him or had anything to do with him"—they were taken into custody; Simpkins arrested Briggs.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. White brought me, of his own accord, a book of members—I took these names from it—I believe Mr. Galbraith takes the chair at one of the best debating societies in London, at the Peacock—I said to the prosecutor the previous night "Do you charge White with being concerned?"—he said "Not now; I would rather get hold of the people that got my property"—he did not decline to charge him—I said to White "You had better be at the Court tomorrow as the Magistrate may want to ask you questions"—he came, and after hearing the evidence of the prosecutor he was arrested—the Magistrate made an observation; it was not exactly in consequence of that that White was arrested, nor that the prosecutor charged him—he said "Now" after hearing the Magistrate's remark—I never saw White before in my life; he voluntarily came to the Court.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES SMITH</hi> (23)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-402-offence-1 t18880319-name-127"/>William Pearce Reynolds</persName> 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and other sums from other persons, with intent to defraud, and attempting to obtain money from
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-402-offence-1 t18880319-name-128"/>William George Newcombe</persName> by false pretences.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRAIN</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. E. BEARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-129" type="given" value="WILLIAM PEARCE"/>WILLIAM PEARCE REYNOLDS</persName> </hi>. I am the London manager of the London and Lancashire Fire Insurance Company, at their office, 74, King William Street—one of our directors at Liverpool is a Mr. Philip Blessig—on 14th November one of my officials made a communication to me, and the prisoner was brought into my private room—I said "I expected to see your father, "Mr. Philip Blessig being an elderly gentleman—that was in consequence of what the official had told me—the prisoner said "No, not my father, my uncle"—he told me he had just landed at Southampton from the West Coast of Africa—I expressed surprise at a ship from the West Coast of Africa going to Southampton—he said "I did not go to Liverpool where the ships generally come to; I had a passage given to me in a Government ship"—he said he had landed short of money, and wished particularly to get to Liverpool that night, and asked if I could make him an advance of 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he told me various facts about my company and its past history—he told me what Mr. Philip Blessig's nephew might well know—in the result I advanced him 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., for which he gave me an I O U signed "W. Blessig"—I saw him write and sign it—he said he would return the money next day on his arrival at Liverpool, and asked me not to put it in the Company's books—I have never received the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I believed the statements he made—his manner was most specious—he spoke very good English, with a foreign accent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I feel sure you are the man that called on me, and I picked you out from seven or eight men at the Mansion House—I have no doubt you are the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-130" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-130" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP BLESSIG</persName> </hi>. I am one of the Directors at Liverpool of the London and Lancashire Fire Company—I know nothing of the prisoner; he is not my nephew, and is in no way related to me—I never authorised him to call on Mr. Reynolds.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-131" type="surname" value="NEWCOMBE"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-131" type="given" value="WILLIAM GEORGE"/>WILLIAM GEORGE NEWCOMBE</persName> </hi>. I am superintendent of the foreign department of the Phoenix Fire Office in Lombard Street—on 9th February the prisoner called on me—this card, "James Paton," was sent in to my secretary, who said to me in the prisoner's presence that James Paton had called, stating he was the son of Ninnion Paton, of Stockholm, and wished me to inquire fully into the matter—I took the prisoner to my room and asked him many questions as to who he was—he said he was the son of Ninnion Paton, our agent at Stockholm; that he had been one winter in Corsica for the benefit of his health, and this winter he had been in Bournemouth; that he had just returned from there and wanted to proceed to Stockholm that night—he then suggested he wanted money—I thought it rather suspicious, and reminded him that Mr. Paton had ceased to be our agent for two years and nine months—he expressed surprise, and stated that he supposed his father had not told him of this in consequence of his serious illness—from further conversation I was not satisfied with what he said, and refused to lend him anything—he did not name any sum—I have not the least doubt the prisoner is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-132" type="given" value="ROBERT CHARLES"/>ROBERT CHARLES TUCKER</persName> </hi>. I am secretary to the Pelican Life Assurance Company—on 10th February, about 3.30 p.m., this card "James Paton" was sent me, and then the prisoner came in and announced himself as Mr. James Paton, son of Mr. Ninnion Paton, of Stockholm, our agent—he has been our agent for many years—the prisoner said he had been</p>
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<p>travelling for his health—he put himself into rather theatrical attitudes, putting his hands on his chest, and he said his last stay had been at Bournemouth, and feeling very ill he wanted to get home as soon as possible to his friends at Stockholm—I called our chief clerk in, and stated to him, in the prisoner's hearing, that the prisoner was said to be James Paton, the son of our agent at Stockholm, and perhaps it would be as well if they went to the Swedish Consul—the prisoner said what he should like to do would be to telegraph and get confirmation of his statement if I had any doubt, but he had already told me he was most anxious to leave that night, by way of Ostend I think—I suggested he should go with Mr. Clark of my office to the telegraph office as he wished to do so—on his return I was given to understand in his presence that supposing Mr. Paton had been at the other end to receive it, the time taken in sending the telegram and replying would prevent his getting off that night—I most certainly believed his story, and instructed Mr. Clark to let him have 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and take a receipt for it—this is the receipt he gave in the outer office—he said he was staying at the Midland Grand Hotel—what induced me to part with my money was substantially that he was the son of my agent—I would not run the risk of offending Mr. Paton on any account—about 15th February I went to the Northern Assurance Company, in Moorgate Street—as I was going upstairs I met the prisoner coming down—I expressed great surprise at seeing him there—he gave a shrug of his shoulders, and I suggested a reason—I asked him if his house in Stockholm did any fire business for the Northern Company, my office doing life business only—he replied "A little, not much"—I remarked it was very bitter weather for him to be out—he said he was advised to keep a day or two longer here—the very next afternoon I met him in Piccadilly, about 5.45 p.m.—I called a policeman and gave him in custody upon a charge of obtaining the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from me—directly I laid hold of him he wanted to give me my 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and said if I would come inside Hatchett's Hotel he would explain matters to me; he said it was a mistake on my part—I went with him and the constable to the station, and formally made the charge there—he made a statement.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-133" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-133" type="given" value="HENRY JOCELYN"/>HENRY JOCELYN CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am chief clerk in the Pelican Office—on 10th February this card was brought in by one of the juniors—I heard the prisoner say he was James Paton, the son of Ninnion Paton—I was requested to go with the prisoner to the telegraph office—first of all he called at the telegraph office on Cornhill to know where to go to—I suggested going to the Consulate—he demurred to that, because he said all Englishmen abroad went to the Consulate to get home again, and if he applied to the Consulate for assistance to go home it would be known all over Stockholm before he got home, and as his family was known all over Stockholm he did not wish that—I went to the Northern Telegraph Office in St. Helen's Place—I was there informed in his presence that it would take from four to five hours to get a reply from Stockholm—it was then 3.45—he asked whether the office would be open all night—they said that it would at both the ends—I said "Will you telegraph?"—he said "No"—then he spoke for some time, I don't know whether in Swedish or Norwegian, and when he came away he said if he wanted to telegraph he could do so during the night, but he should not do so then—we went back to the office, and I went with him into Mr. Tucker's room, who told me to get the agent's list, and then Mr. Tucker put</p>
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<p>various questions regarding the agency to the prisoner, and after the prisoner had answered them satisfactorily I was directed to give him 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I wrote out the I. O. U., and saw him sign it "James Paton"—there is not the slightest doubt that the prisoner is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-134" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-134" type="surname" value="PATON"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-134" type="given" value="ISABEL"/>ISABEL PATON</persName> </hi>. I am the sister of Mr. Ninnion Paton, who resides and carries on business in Stockholm—he has been agent to the Pelican Life Office for many years—he was married in 1875, and his wife died six weeks after—he has not been married since—he had no son—I am from Stockholm—there is no other Ninnion Paton there at present—I had an uncle Ninnion Paton many years ago; he is dead, and there has not been any other Ninnion Paton but my brother since 1856.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-135" type="surname" value="ECHENARD"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-135" type="given" value="LOUIS"/>LOUIS ECHENARD</persName> </hi>. I am second manager at the Midland Grand Hotel, St. Pancras—on 10th February no person of the name of James Paton was Staying there—I keep an arrival book, in which the name of every person is entered—I have searched it; there is no such name entered there—I know no such person by sight—James Smith is not entered there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-136" type="given" value="AUGUSTUS"/>AUGUSTUS HENDRIKS</persName> </hi>. I am the secretary of the London office of the London, Liverpool, and Globe Assurance Company—on 15th February, about 3 o'clock, the prisoner called on me and produced this card, "V. Svalander"—our agents in Gottenberg are Svalander and Nast—he said he was a partner in the firm of Svalander and Nast, our agents in Gottenberg, that he had been ill, and had been in bed for about four months at Gottenberg, and that the doctors had recommended him to go to Bournemouth, his lungs being very bad; that he had been there for some weeks, and that he was getting better, but the last few days the weather had so changed that he became very ill, and wished to get back to Gottenberg as soon as he could, that he had come up from Bourne mouth that day, and wished to return home by the night express, via Flushing—I said that he looked very ill, and asked whether he might not do better by remaining in London to rest for a few days—he said that he must get on at once; he was so ill that he thought he might die if he did not—he then said that he hoped I would assist him by advancing him 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., as he had no money to get home—I told him that I had never seen him before, and asked whether he could give me any evidence of his being really our agent—I had an impression that I had seen Mr. Svalander some years before, but I was not quite sure, and I said he was an older man—he said that was his uncle, and that he himself was the junior partner—I then said we in London had very little correspondence with his firm, and he said "Yes, I know that; we correspond for 'Fire' with your head officie at Liverpool"—I said that was quite correct, that I would help him if I could, that I would wire to Liverpool, and asked whether he could be back again about 5 o'clock; this was 3.15—he said he would come back—he left and came back about 5 o'clock—meantime I had telegraphed to Liverpool, and had looked up our correspondence and accounts with Svalander and Nast, so as to compare his writing—the letters were in my hand—the prisoner said he had never written any of the letters or signed them, that he attended to other business, their wine business—I told him I had a document before me, and that it was a loan for a Mr. Svalander on security of a life policy, and I noticed the name of the witness to the signature, who had put his name and signed himself "Bookkeeper to the firm"—he was sitting opposite to me and may have seen it—I asked him who was the bookkeeper—he said they were a very large firm and had several—I said "Will you name them?"—he gave me a name I did not</p>
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<p>recognise—I said "Will you name another?"—he said it must be Borgstrom; that was the name on the paper—I said "Surely you have some letters addressed to you"—he said he had many letters—I said "Have you any in your pocket?"—he said "No," but he produced another card similar to the one he had given me before, and said that he had only a small leather bag with him at the Midland Hotel, and the letters were in a large trunk, which was being sent to him from Bourne mouth in time for him to catch the night train, and that in that trunk were many letters—I had further conversation with him, and thought he was the man he said he was—I suggested his remaining a little longer—I again suggested that he should remain and wire to his friends in Gottenberg—he again repeated how ill he was, and he looked very ill certainly, and said if he did not get back he should never get back—I believed all his statements, and lent him 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he wrote this in my presence. (
<hi rend="italic">This was a receipt from the London, Liverpool, and Globe Company of the "somme "of</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">which would be repaid by V. Svalander, of Svalander and Nast.</hi>) Before he wrote "Svalander and Nast" he handed it to me with the signature V. Svalander, and I said "This is not altogether a personal matter; it is for the firm"—he said "Oh, yes, I will append the signa ture of the firm," and then he wrote the firm's signature—when he got the money he said he would leave that evening, and would write the moment he got to Gottenberg—I saw no more of him till I saw him at the Mansion House—I have no doubt he is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> The receipt was not in the writing I had been accustomed to see, but you explained that you were the junior partner, and had not signed the letters to me.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-137" type="given" value="FRANZ"/>FRANZ OFERBURG</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Messrs. Clark and Co., of Crosby Square, Bishopsgate—I have known Mr. Svalander for 25 years, and have been in correspondence with him and the firm—this is not the signature of any member of the firm—Mr. Svalander and Mr. Nast are the only partners in the firm—I know nothing of this writing as coming from that firm—I never saw or heard of the prisoner before, and know nothing of him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-138" type="given" value="MORITZ"/>MORITZ HAGBORG</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Klingsborg, of 35, Queen Victoria Street—our firm has considerable correspondence with Messrs. Svalander and Nast—I have known Mr. Svalander personally for 15 or 20 years—there are no more than the two gentlemen, Svalander and Nast, in that firm—I know nothing of the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-139" type="given" value="JOHN FREDERICK"/>JOHN FREDERICK OSTLER</persName> </hi>. I am luggage clerk at the Midland Hotel, St. Pancras—all luggage coming there has to be received and entered in a book by me—luggage left by customers is entered in the cloak-room book—I have searched those books for the whole of February, and can find no luggage in the name of Svalander or Smith, Paton or Blessig—I have never seen the prisoner.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-140" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BIRD</persName> </hi>. I am a printer at 1, Villiers Street, Strand—I have known the prisoner eight or ten months—during that time I have printed a number of visiting cards for him in different names—I printed these for him by his instructions in the names of P. Liedquist, Rhoss, Le Comte The Court, G. Krafft, Julius G. Glass, James Paton, V. Svalander—I received this by post: "Would you please to have this name finished at 1 o'clock. Oscar Ferlin. 15"—that means 15 cards—the prisoner came about it the next day.</p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-141" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant</hi>) I have had the conduct of this matter—the prisoner was brought to Vine Street Police-station—I aid to him—I am a police officer, and you will be charged with obtaining 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from Mr. Tucker on the 10th on false and fraudulent pretences"—he said "I have 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in my pocket; let me give it to him and go"—I searched and found on him 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and a few shillings; also some pocket-handkerchiefs, one of them marked in silk with a coronet and "J. H."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "It is a mistake. I wish to be defended, and will say it afterwards."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence denied that he had ever been in Mr. Reynold's office; and as to the other cases he said he was in need of money, and did it with the intention of paying it back, and that he was sorry for it.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his ill-health.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">Sergeant Brett stated that the prisoner had obtained</hi> 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">in all from various banks and insurance offices.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-402-18880319 t18880319-402-punishment-25"/>Twenty Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, March</hi> 22
<hi rend="italic">nd</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES MAX SCHRODER</hi> (37)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18880319-403-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Forging and uttering the acceptance to a bill of exchange for 378
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSES. LOCKWOOD</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR HENRY JAMES</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-143" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY PEAK</persName> </hi>. I am a manufacturing jeweller and gold smith. of 29, Gerard Street, Soho; it was formerly Grant and Peek—I have known the prisoner since April, 1885—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is a summary signed by him, and dated May, 1886, of his indebtedness to me at that date: "G. M.Schroder, in account with Grant and Peek." (
<hi rend="italic">Giving the amount of dishonoured bills, amounting to</hi> 4,404
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and stating "This account is correct, and Messrs. Grant and Peek are fully entitled to collect against my state.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">M. SCHRODER."</hi> This correctly represents his indebtedness to us at that date, but there were costs left for suing in Paris—on 6th July, 1886, I received this letter from the prisoner. (
<hi rend="italic">Dated</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th July</hi>, 1886,
<hi rend="italic">from the Hotel Metropole, from the prisoner, stating that he had an abscess in his mouth and could not go out, and asking the witness to call on him.</hi>) I went to the hotel and saw him—he told me there was no need to trouble further about raising money on his reversion, as he had arranged with a cousin to raise sufficient money to pay his debts—I told him he had made me so many promises, and as I had to take proceedings against him on his bills that I should be glad if he would put it on paper to show to friends of mine, and he wrote this in my presence: "6th July, 1886. Dear Mr. Peek,—I herewith inform you that I have made such arrangements as will enable me to pay you this month 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for capital and interest, that I shall do through relations, who will advance the money"—nothing further passed—after he wrote that he left—I saw him again the following day at my office in Gerard Street—he had called twice during the morning when I was out—he called again about 1 o'clock—he seemed very much agitated, and asked to speak to me privately—I took him upstairs to my private room—we were there together—he was very much agitated, and for some time he could not speak; in fact, I had to get him some wine—at last he said</p>
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<p>"What I have to tell you I don't know how to begin"—I said "What is it?"—he said "When you were suing me in Paris I was pressed by other people, and I forged your name"—I said "Whose name? my name or the firm's name?"—he said "Grant and Peek"—I said "When are the bills payable?"—he said "To-morrow, at your bankers'"—I said "I must show something to the bank as a reason for returning them"—he said "Yes, I will write"—this is what he wrote; it is written on my paper—he appealed to me on account of his mother, that it would kill her if I took any steps; that he was quite sure his uncle would pay—I said "In that case I must speak to my nephew, and he must go and see your uncle at once; I must call my nephew up and tell him, and he must go with you and see your uncle at once"—I called my nephew up, and when he came into the room the prisoner said "Don't tell him; give me five minutes"—I told my nephew to go into the back room for a few minutes—I waited a few minutes, and said that I considered I had given him time enough, and I then called my nephew in, explained the whole thing to him, and showed him the paper—I do not think that paper had been written before my nephew went into the back room—I think the prisoner wrote it before my nephew was called in; I am not sure—the paper was downstairs; my nephew brought it—he brought it before he went into the back room, and while he was there the prisoner wrote what is on it. (
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi>" 29, Gerard Street, Soho, 6th July, 1886. Mr. Peek, I have to confess to you that I have forged the name of Grant and Peek to the following bills,") making a total of 2,258
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I showed that paper to my nephew—I told my nephew he would have to go and see Baron Schroder in Leadenhall Street—they went away together—I saw my nephew later on—on the following day I went to my bankers, the Union Bank, Argyll Street—I made a communication to them—afterwards these five bills were brought to me by a bankers' clerk. (
<hi rend="italic">Herbert George Muskett, clerk to Messrs. Wontner, proved service of notice on the prisoner's solicitors to produce the bills</hi>). The signature to the bills was "Schroder"—the signature of the acceptor is not mine—I never gave any one authority to put my name to the bills—there is a resemblance to my hand writing—the prisoner has had from time to time documents with my signature—at the end of May we applied for a warrant, and towards the end of July I swore an information.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> I first became acquainted with the prisoner on 14th April, 1885—I sold him a bracelet, he did not pay for it—at the end of 1885 I was pressed for money—I sent bills of exchange to the prisoner in Paris, accepted by my firm—at one time he held 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of bills, it might be 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I don't think I ever sent any in blank, I could not say positively—he was friendly with a customer of mine in Paris, from whom I held a large quantity of foreign bills as security for a debt, he said no doubt it would be an accommodation to me if he could put me in funds to take up the customer's bills—he was to discount the bills in Paris, and send over the produce to me—that was the course of business pursued between us to the end of 1885 and the beginning of 1886—he has remitted to me about 2 000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I don't think. more—I don't think I saw the prisoner in England during 1886—I frequently wrote to him; I sued him in Paris and in London as well—I did not hear of these bills being in existence until the prisoner came and told me of it—I saw him in London on 6th July, and the bills became</p>
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<p>due on the 8th—I think I did not dictate this confession to the prisoner, I could not tell you, because we were both in a very agitated state; he said "I will write it down"—I told him I wanted a document to show to the bank, I might have said "You must put down that you forged those bills," and he wrote it—I was not then in the habit of giving notice to my bank when bills were coming due to be met; this was the first time we had ever given the bankers notice, I do so now; when bills are becoming due we always provide for them—I cannot tell from memory what my liabilities were at the time, but I was solvent—had I known that I had accepted these bills I should have provided for them, but as I had not I did not provide for them—the first step I took after obtaining this document was to send the prisoner with my nephew to see his uncle, because he said his uncle would arrange to help him to pay the bills—I knew they were forged at that time—I also directed my nephew to go to the Paddington Station to see the uncle, and also to his house at Windsor; that was at the prisoner's suggestion—those attempts to obtain the money were not successful—I did not send him with a view of getting the money simply, but with a view of knowing what they were going to do about the bills—I told my nephew to remain in the same room with the prisoner all night, because the prisoner telegraphed to his brother and was expecting an answer, and simply to know what was to be done in the morning; it was not to lose sight of him; it was not that he might get the money to meet the bills, that was immaterial to me, there was no certainty that he would be there in the morning—I did not afterwards tell my nephew to let him go to Hamburg or where he liked—I sent to his lawyer, Mr. Vallance, not to get the money, to talk it over; Mr. Vallance told me if I took no steps everything should be arranged, that the bills should be paid—I then told my nephew to leave the prisoner; I knew he was to go straight to Hamburg, and he did go the same night—I knew then that he had committed forgery—he was going to Hamburg to get the money I presume—all this occurred on the 8th—the bills were all met and paid on the 13th—I have not lost anything on the bills; I have a claim against him that has not been paid—on the 27th I took proceedings for this forgery; that was not until he had left the country without paying me—if I had known that the bills had been paid I should not have taken any proceedings; I had no positive information that they had been paid—Mr. Thomas wrote to me from Paris, and said "I believe all the bills have been paid"—I suppose I could have found that out by going to the bank—the only in formation I had was from Mr. Thomas; I never heard anything more of them, perhaps I did believe the information—if my debt had been paid I should not have prosecuted—he led me to believe that he was entitled to a very large reversion; he sent me a will of his grandfather's, suggesting that money could be raised on the reversion—I put it in the hands of my solicitor—I have not been paid.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> The bills that I accepted and sent to Paris were subse quently presented to me, and I had to pay them—I made nothing out of them.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-144" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN STEAD</persName> </hi>. Mr. Peek is my uncle—on 7th July, 1886, I was at Gerard Street, his place of business—I was called by him to a room where the prisoner was; he begged my uncle not to tell me, to give him another five minutes—he was greatly agitated—Mr. Peek then</p>
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<p>instructed me to withdraw into the adjoining room—he then called me again and told me to fetch some note paper from the office downstairs; I did so—this document (
<hi rend="italic">marked D</hi>) is a similar paper—I was told to wait in the adjoining room a few minutes—Mr. Peek then called me into the front room again, and then informed me what had taken place; he showed me this documents, and told me that I was to go with the prisoner to his uncle, Baron Schroder in Leadenhall Street, as the prisoner said he could arrange with his uncle to pay the forged bills—we went there, and the Baron refused to see him—we then returned to Gerrard Street, and from there went to Paddington, with a view of seeing the Baron there on his way to Windsor; I saw the Baron there; the prisoner refused to speak to him, he said he wait a little distance off while I spoke to him—I did speak to him—previous to that, on our way to Ludgate Hill, I asked the prisoner about the forged bills, and what made him do such a thing—he said the reason was his wife was very ill at the time, he was very much pressed for money, he did not know which way to turn, and therefore he forged the acceptance—he said he hoped before the bills came due he would be able to raise the money to enable him to pay his debts and to provide for those bills as well—I afterwards went with him to a house at Windsor, I did not go in, I waited at the gates; he returned after a short time and stated that his uncle would not see him, that he had written to him—I asked him where, he said he did not know—I then returned with him to London—on the way back he said "When a man gets into a position like I am now, he becomes desperate"—he said that he would never be locked up or committed for trial, he would kill himself sooner—after that I went with him to the Hotel Metropole, and remained there with him that night—next day I went with him to Leadenhall Street—I parted with him about 11 in the morning—I saw him again that night for Hamburg, and before going he wished to thank me for the consideration I had shown him the previous day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>. I left him in consequence of the instructions of my uncle—I knew that he was going to Hamburg, I think for the purpose of getting the money—I don't know he had not obtained the money at that time—I had been trying to obtain it from his relative—I slept in the same room with him simply to keep an eye on him—on Friday last, the 16th, his wife came to my uncle—I was told to accompany her Mr. Wontner's office—she came with a proposal to my uncle that she would pays a certain sum of money if he would withdraw from the prosecution—Mr. Wontner refused to enter into that proposition, and I left with her—I knew that the prisoner was indebted to my uncle—I know that the lady told my uncle that she and her sister had scraped together 1,100—I said that although my uncle had not authorized me to say so, I took upon myself to state that he would accept 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the pound, and the costs amounting to 6000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but at the same time we could make no arrangement whatever about this prosecution—I said that Mr. Peek would be gold to take the 10., because he knew that the debt was a bad one—the 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was the costs of suing him, and one way and the other my uncle had been put to a great deal of expense—I said that to her—she said "That will amount in reality to 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the family will not do anything, and I my sister</p>
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<p>cannot do more"—I said "We shall be here to-morrow if you call"—she said "I cannot call to-morrow as the family will not help me in this case."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I was not present when the lady saw my uncle last Friday—he instructed me to take her to Messrs. Wontner, who are conducting this prosecution—I had no authority to make her any offer; I told her so—I said I thought Mr. Peek would accept 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; I did not say he would—I took her to Mr. Wontner, and I saw him—he refused to see her, and declined to have anything to say.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-145" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ORAM</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Glyn, Mills, and Co., bankers, Lombard Street—on or about 7th July, 1886, we received from the Imperial Bank in Throgmorton Street five bills of exchange—I believe these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) to be copies of those bills—they were presented in due course at the Argyll Street branch of the Union Bank of London, and were returned to us as paid—we returned them to the notaries in the ordinary course the same day—the notaries would act upon them in the usual course, and return them to the Imperial Bank.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-146" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ROBINSON</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Imperial Bank, Throg morton Street—in June, 1886, I was the accountant there—on 10th April, 1886, I received from Paris two bills of exchange for 485
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 486
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on 24th April one for 287
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and on 18th May two for 323
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 378
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—they were all drawn by Max Schroder on Grant and Peek, and purporting to be accepted by them—they were all payable on 8th July at the Union Bank of London, Argyll Place—I placed them in the hands of Glyn, Mills, and Co. for collection—they were returned unpaid on the 9th—upon that I communicated with our solicitors, and afterwards went to Scotland Yard, and Inspector Montano went with me to Grant and Peek—on 13th July I went to the office of J. H. Schroder and Co., Leadenhall Street—I there saw three gentle men, and received value for the whole of the bills, which I gave up three days afterwards—on 16th July I received a bill for 390
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from a correspondent in Paris—I took that to the same office in Leadenhall Street, and it was paid, and I left the bill there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> I represent the Imperial Ottoman Bank—the bank also carries on business in Paris—we received the five bills from the Paris house—I presume they had discounted them, and sent them over for collection on the 9th, and not paid—I went and attempted to see Mr. Peek a day or two after at his place of business—I did not see him—he would not see me—I sent up my name and business—I first went to Scotland Yard with our solicitor, and we all three went to the office—the solicitor was sent for, I think Mr. Brown, of Ironmonger Lane—I saw him—he would not give us any information—the name of Mr. Magnion, the gentleman from our Paris house, is on the bill—he came over from Paris on 13th July, and saw me, our bank having received the bills from him—I did not learn whether the money to meet the bills had come from Hamburg—the bills were met, and no liability rests on Mr. Peek on them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN WILLIAM SHEPHERD NEALE</hi>. I am a librarian, of 248, Rue de Rivoli, Paris—I have known the prisoner some years as a customer—he has purchased English bill stamps of me on several occasions—I have my book here—on April 24th he paid me for 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. worth of bill stamps two</p>
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<p>5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., one 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and one 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. stamp—he had purchased two of them several days before—on 17th May he paid for one 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. stamp and one 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. one, making six altogether, all English bill stamps—I sold them to him personally.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-147" type="given" value="na"/>MONSIEUR MAGNION</persName> </hi>. I am a commission agent, of Boulevart Sebastopol, Paris—I am intimately acquainted with the prisoner and his wife—they lived at 3,
<hi rend="italic">Rue de la Belle Etoile</hi>—I visited them very often—I first knew them about three years ago, 1884 or 1885—in 1885 the prisoner was ill with inflammation, and was sent to the South of France—he returned to Paris in April, 1886—as far as I know he left Paris on 5th July, 1886, and I did not see him again till lately—in April and May, 1886, I saw him almost daily—I have no knowledge of his being in England after his return from the South of France, and it is impossible that he could be, from the number of times I saw him—I knew of Madame Schroder going away with one of her daughters—I knew what was going on in her house—I discounted bills for the prisoner from time to time, some of them before the six bills which have been mentioned—he first brought me two bills about 14th April, 1886, and he gave me this receipt—it is written by me and signed by him, and dated 15th April, 1886—it is in French—it is for a total of 23,430 francs, the amount of two bills for 849
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. English, which I discounted for him—I gave him the money, and passed the bills over to my account at the Imperial Ottoman Bank in Paris, to be presented on my behalf, and after they had discounted them for me I had no further care of them—that was all the prisoner had to do with the first two bills—I must have seen the prisoner on 20th April, as I discounted two bills for him, amounting to 668
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and he gave me this receipt—one of the two final bills is dated May 21st, but the date of the bill does not represent the date of the transaction with me—I have nothing to do with the date of the stamping—the two bills in May amounted to 701
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—on May 21st I handed the prisoner the money, and he gave me the receipt—he had had the bills previously—the date of the receipt has nothing to do with the day when the Ottoman Bank got the notes, I discounted them before that—the transaction of May was exactly the same as the former one—I came to this country on July 13th—I received notice from the bank that the bills had not been met, and I even left money for the bills before I left Paris.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi> I have no record of the day on which the bills were handed to me—I asked my banker to discount them for me; that was five, six. or 10 days before I got the money and handed it to the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-148" type="given" value="HENRY"/>SIR HENRY JAMES</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that the offence, if any, either of forgery or uttering, was committed in France, and that consequently this Court had no jurisdiction.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LOCKWOOD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that, as to the uttering, although the bills might be first uttered in France, their remittance to this country and the subsequent dealing with them here, was a continuous uttering here, which would render the prisoner responsible to the jurisdiction of this Court.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Upon the stated facts the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">found that the bills were drawn and discounted in France.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">held that this Court had no jurisdiction, and directed the Jury to find a verdict of</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-403-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="directed"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">No evidence was offered on the
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<interp inst="t18880319-403-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-403-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>other Indictments, as to the other bills,</rs> the facts being precisely similar.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18880319-403-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18880319-403-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-403-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MINNIE LUXON</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18880319-404-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18880319-404-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="miscellaneous"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-404-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="other"/>, Unlawfully suffering
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18880319-404-offence-1 t18880319-name-151"/>Emma Elizabeth Forsey</persName>, a girl under 16 years of age, to use premises in their occupation for an unlawful purpose.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PHILLIPS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18880319-404-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<interp inst="t18880319-404-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. —
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-404-18880319 t18880319-404-punishment-26"/>Six Months' Hard Labour each</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, March</hi> 22
<hi rend="italic">nd</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LOUIS PANTLIN</hi> (32)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18880319-405-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>, Unlawfully obtaining money from various persons by false pretences with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. C. MATHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-153" type="surname" value="MOLE"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-153" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MOLE</persName> </hi>. I am a bricklayer, of 13, Edgeworth Terrace, Pembery Road, Tottenham—on 16th February, 1887, I saw this advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Daily Chronicle</hi> for a trustworthy man, able to work on house property, with 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cash security, apply 69, Ida Street, East India Dock Road, Poplar—I wrote to that address, and on 22nd February received this letter "B." (
<hi rend="italic">Saying that if he was in a position to deposit</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">cash security and to sign an agreement, he could commence work at once, and that the advertiser would meet him to-morrow.</hi>) I have seen the prisoner write, this is his writing—in consequence of that letter I went to 69, Ida Street on 22nd February—I did not see the prisoner then, I called again on the same day and saw him—he said "I want a trustworthy man, honest, whom I can trust to collect rents, attend sales, buy and sell property for me" he said I should have 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in my hands sometimes, that he had property at Poplar, Plaistow, and Southgate, and should want me to go to Plaistow the following week to sell some of the property, and he should want 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. security—I asked him if he could not take part; he said no, the security was for my holding so much of his money—I asked if I could not pay part down, and a part later on—he said "No, I must have it all down at once before you commence," and asked when I should be able to deposit 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said in a few days if it was genuine—he said "Yes, you will find me all right, I am honest myself and I want a man the same"—I asked him what wages he would give—he said "What do you want?"—I said 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week—he said he could not give so much—I agreed to take 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he arranged to meet me on Saturday, the 26th, at the same place, where I was to deposit the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did so about 4 o'clock, taking the money with me, part notes and part cash—I told him I had brought it—he gave me this agreement to read—I made a copy of it—I believed the statements it contained. (
<hi rend="italic">By the agreement Mole was to be employed by Pantlin at</hi> 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">a week, to let houses, collect rents, attend sales, and make himself useful, and to advance</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">as security, and Pantlin was to repay the</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">at a month's notice, and to pay</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic"> per cent. during the time he retained the</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.) I thought it was a genuine service—I believed the other statements about the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and that this was really required as a guarantee for my honesty, and that he was in a position to give me permanent employment as long as I behaved myself—he read the agreement, I executed it and had a counterpart—I paid my money—I asked him if he did not want any references—he hesitated and said yes, he would have one—I gave him Mr. Franklin, Criterion Buildings, High Road, Tottenham—he was to</p>
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<p>communicate with Mr. Franklin, the suggestion came from me—I was to begin my work on the Monday succeeding, 28th February, when he was to meet me—I did not see him then—on the Tuesday I went again—I saw him between 10 and 11, and went with him to 1, 2, 3, and 4, Sophia Street, and 1, 2, 3, and 4, Elizabeth Terrace, Poplar—they are adjoining streets—he showed me to the tenants, and told them I should be their collector for the future to collect their rents—one of the tenants, Mrs. Sullivan, said in his hearing, "How many more collectors are you going to bring here?"—she said she did not believe the property belonged to him at all—the prisoner said "Come along, Mole, don't take any notice of what the women say"—he gave me no book, and did not tell me what the amounts were—the property was seven or eight roomed houses in bad condition—he told me I was to go down to North Street, Plaistow, and take Lemon, who had been collector, with me to do some repairs to 45 and 47, North Street—I collected throughout the week from 1st March to the 4th or 5th in Sophia Street, and I collected that week 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. there, paid in half-crowns and florins—that was the most I could get—next week I collected 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from the same houses in Sophia Street—during the third week I occupied myself at North Street some time in doing cement work at two shops there, 45 and 47—I went nearly every day in the week—there were seven houses in Sophia Street—it took me pretty well an hour there altogether—after I had done that I would go and do the cementing—I did not collect after the second week—I heard something from Lemon—I was paid my wages for the first two weeks, 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in all—I worked all the third week, and at the end of it I waited there expecting to see somebody—I did not get my wages—I went on working the greater part of the fourth week—I could not see the prisoner; I tried to find him—he came down the third week and spoke to Lemon, not to me—I was looking for him from Tuesday to Saturday in the fourth week, and could not find him—on 26th March I saw his wife at Liverpool Street Station with her father, Mr. Elkins—there was a conversation, in which we all three took part—I made some statement to them about my wages—the meeting at Liverpool Street Station was arranged by Elkins—the prisoner did not attend it—that was the first occasion on which any mention was made of a charge to be given to me—by arrangement I was to meet the prisoner on 29th March, three days afterwards—I met him and Elkins then at Liverpool Street Station—I asked the prisoner what he meant by treating me as he had done, and if he was going to pay me—he said "It will be all right, Mole; you need not trouble"—we went to a public-house, and he signed and gave me this charge. (
<hi rend="italic">Dated </hi>29
<hi rend="italic">th March. This was a charge on the houses</hi> 45
<hi rend="italic"> and</hi> 47
<hi rend="italic">, North Street, Plaistow, for the payment of the wages and the</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">the same to be repaid by</hi> 23
<hi rend="italic">rd April, together with interest at 7 per cent., and was signed Louis Pantlin.</hi>) I asked him if there was any incumbrance on the property, and he said "No"—I asked where the deeds were—he said "We have not got them with us; it will be all right; you will soon have your money; you need not trouble about the deeds"—the charge was brought already signed and executed—Fowler, the witness to it, was introduced to me by the prisoner; he is not here—I believed that the prisoner was the owner of this property, and that this was a valid charge upon it, and a valuable document—he made no statement to me as to his holding the one house</p>
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<p>and one house only, or as to his having deposited the lease for a monetary advance on 1st January, 1887—in April and afterwards I applied to the prisoner for my money, but never received any portion of it beyond the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I never saw him afterwards—I asked him his address—he gave me 86, Leadenhall Street—I went there, but could not find him—about 5th May I received this letter from 86, Leadenhall Street. (
<hi rend="italic">This said that he was about engaging an office to himself, and that when he left Leadenhall Street he would forward the address, and that he need not be uneasy, as all would be right presently.</hi>) I did not know in February that Charles Mills and William Bussell were pressing the prisoner for money—I knew nothing of those two people; they were never mentioned to me while I was in tho prisoner's service, and I never saw them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>. I am a journeyman bricklayer, and experienced in repairing houses—I first went to Sophia Street to collect rents; I did no repairs there—then I went to 45 and 47, North Street, and then to 201, High Street, Poplar—these are small rents payable in small sums every week, and troublesome to collect, varying from 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week—when I first saw the prisoner I asked for 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week—that was not exorbitant—he said it was too much; he could not give it, and I finally agreed to work for 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—that is a fair average wage in these times—it was not that but the money I was to hold in the future that tempted me to make the deposit of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I made inquiries about the property at Southgate, and found the prisoner had some interest in it—I did not find he had a lease of property there—I cannot remember saying at the police-court "I made inquiries, and ascertained that the property at New Southgate belonged to Mr. Pantlin"—my evidence was read over to me, and I signed it—if that is on the deposition I said it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. It was put to me in that form—all I found out was that the prisoner collected the rents—I knew nothing about its being mortgaged on 3rd March, 1886, with the exception of three houses—45 and 47, North Street were not occupied—a great many of the South gate houses were unoccupied—I knew nothing of the exact relation the prisoner held in regard to the property—the statement that I should have 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in my hands was one of the things that influenced me—he said I should have to collect the rents, and he must have security—I believed his statements, and acted on them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUTTON</hi>. My own solicitor drew the charge—the prisoner gave me one which I took to my solicitor—he said "It is of no use," and gave me another—the prisoner pressed me to give up the agreement of 26th February, but I would not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18880319-name-154" type="given" value="THOMAS JOHN"/>THOMAS JOHN PITTFIELD</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor, of Gray's Inn—in January, 1887, the prisoner owed our firm money—before or in that month his wife had been sued for the rent of 201, High Street, Poplar, and 12 cottages in Red Lion Court, and there was an action for possession—I advanced to her and the prisoner 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; in fact, I paid a debt of 51
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I took as security for the money a joint and several promissory note and a deposit of the lease of 45 and 47, North Street—the lease was the principal security—I did not have it valued; I took it more out of kind ness to Mrs. Pantlin than anything else—I thought she would lose the property if it was not paid—it was a lease of those two houses to the prisoner, giving him a leasehold interest in the houses for 80 years, from</p>
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<p>Christmas, 1886, at a rental of 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year—the wife had no interest in the premises 45 and 47, she had been sued in respect of other premises—I have no idea of the value of the property—I know the prisoner told me he hoped to get quite 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by it by laying out some money—I promised to pay the money on 31
<hi rend="italic">st</hi> January, and on 1st February I paid it, and the lease was deposited with me on 9th February, 1887—with the exception of four houses, 14, 15, 16, and 17, Travers Road, all the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. houses at Southgate were mortgaged by the prisoner to me by a sub lease of 3rd May, 1886—that is the way we usually take a mortgage—some advance I made—14, 15, 16, and 17 were mortgaged too—the whole property was mortgaged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>. The date of the lease on the Plaistow property was February 9th—it was left with me on 7th February; it had not been taken up at the time, and it was arranged that when it was taken up it should be left with me—the money was advanced before I had it—I paid it to the solicitors who issued the writ—I have known the prisoner for seven or eight years—my firm has acted for him—I advanced the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of kindness to the wife—the prisoner collected the rents, although the property was mortgaged—none of the mortgagees were in possession.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-155" type="surname" value="SHARP"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-155" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SHARP</persName> </hi>. I am a surveyor and valuer, of St. Andrew's Road, Plaistow—I have had considerable experience in surveying property and valuing houses in that neighbourhood—I have inspected these houses, 45 and 47—I consider the value of the 80 years' lease of that property 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the property has recently been faced and put in repair in front, cemented, but otherwise it is in a dilapidated condition, and has been for some time—45 and 47 are now two houses, but they were originally one house; they are worth about 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>. It is a lease for 80 years; the houses are unoccupied—they were let as two houses to two tenants last, not in flats—one was unlet when I inspected them; they are both empty now—shortly before they had been let at 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week the two, not each—I estimated they would let at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. respectively—I was aware at the time of the inspection that they had been recently repaired.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The cement work Mr. Mole did.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-156" type="surname" value="FRANKLING"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-156" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE FRANKLING</persName> </hi>. I live at 6, Criterion Buildings, Tottenham—I know Mole—I was content he should give me as reference if the prisoner wanted one—the prisoner never applied to me for Mole's character.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-157" type="surname" value="BUSSELL"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-157" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BUSSELL</persName> </hi>. I am a commission agent, of 14, Richmond Terrace, Clapham Road—on 15th July, 1886, I inserted an advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Daily Telegraph</hi> for a situation of trust, offering 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cash security and asking for 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—shortly after that I received a letter signed "Louis Pantlin," in consequence of which I went on 17th July to Holly Lodge, New Park, Loughton, where I saw Mrs. Pantlin—I had some conversation with her, and waited till about 6 o'clock, when the prisoner came—I was introduced to him—we had tea together, and after that Mrs. Pantlin went away, leaving me and the prisoner together—he said he was in want of a clerk and collector to collect his rents and sell his property, and that he should require 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. as cash security, as I should have a large amount passing through my hands—he said as he was so busy he had such numerous property he could not attend to it—I asked him what he had to show for the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. security—he said he had various properties; he had about 40 houses; 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at Travers Road,</p>
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<p>Southgate, and in Victoria Dock Road—he said there was a caretaker living in the corner shop at Travers Road, but he was paying about 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year rent—this conversation took place in the house—then he asked me if I had seen his garden, and from what he said I con sidered that Holly Lodge was his as well—when he mentioned about the Southgate property I said "Does this house and property belong to you" (meaning Holly Lodge), "and the Southgate property as well?" and the prisoner said "Yes"—I was shown round the garden of Holly Lodge; I was virtually engaged, and it was arranged I should come again on the following Monday, 19th July, about 9.30, and he would drive me down and introduce me to the caretaker—he said on the Saturday I was to collect rents and conduct sales—he said he was in the habit of having a room in the public-house to sell in, and I was to sell—I asked him what wages he would give me—he said what I had inserted in the advertise ment, 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—that was agreed between us—he said he would make me a present if I sold the property, according to the amount—I sold it for in fact a commission—nothing was said on that day as to any charge existing on the Travers Road property—from what he said I believed the property was entirely his own, and I believed he had other properties—he mentioned some in the Victoria Dock Road, or close handy, in the East End—on the 19th I went to his house at 9.30, and he drove me to Southgate in a trap—on the way down he told me that the property in Travers Road that we were going to visit belonged to him, and that he had various others in different parts of London, in Sophia Street, High Street, Poplar, and in the Victoria Dock Road, or close handy—we stopped at the corner shop in Travers Road—he went in, and Mr. Nash came out with him—he introduced me to Nash, and said I was a gentle man come down to sell the property, and Mr. Nash was to take his orders from me as if from himself—Nash said "Very well, Sir"—he said Nash was the caretaker who lived on the property and looked after the repairs—we then drove to the Woolpack, a beerhouse in the neighbourhood—I was there introduced to the landlord and landlady—the prisoner told them I was coming down to sell the property, and asked if they would allow me to use the private room as usual—the landlord said he would—the prisoner told the landlady I was coming on the following Monday, I think he said, and he said "Let him have the use of the room just as I have had the use of it"—we then went back to Holly Lodge, Loughton—it was there arranged that I should come down on the Tuesday, the next day, the 20th, and pay the deposit—I went, there about the middle of the day, and found the prisoner and Mrs. Pautlin there—we conversed on general subjects; we were there a very little time—the the prisoner brought out two forms of agreement and filled them in; I signed one and he the other—it was a facsimile of Mr. Mole's, which I have read—an ordinary penny stamp was put on one—I had it stamped afterwards with a sixpenny stamp—the agreement was to terminate as a month's notice on either side, and the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was to be returned at the end of the month—on that the money was paid over in 10 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bank-notes—the prisoner said he was going to advertise the Southgate property for sale, and he would send me a notice to insert in the
<hi rend="italic">Daily Telegraph</hi> and
<hi rend="italic">Daily Chronicle</hi>—they would appear on the Monday he thought, and I was to go down on the Tuesday and sell the property—on 23rd July I received the advertisement I was to insert, and in the same letter a cheque for</p>
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<p>3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on the Birkbeck Bank was enclosed, 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for salary and 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for the advertisements—I inserted the advertisements, and paid 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for them before I went to the bank—when I went to the bank the cheque was returned to me, marked "Refer to drawer"—I never received the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for that cheque—I had another cheque for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I cashed at the Birkbeck Bank—on the following day, the 27th, I went to Southgate—I remained there two months—advertisements continually appeared in the papers, and I was showing people over the property, and endeavouring to sell—the prisoner gave me forms of agreement—I tried during those two months to sell the property, but I could not; the ground rents were so exorbitant—my wages were paid during that time—about the 4th or 5th of September I received a letter from the prisoner, in con sequence of which I went to 162, East India Road a few days after and saw him—he said he wanted me to sell the Sophia Street pro perty—he thought he would make a change; he would send another collector and salesman to Southgate, and would send me there to see if I could do any better with the Sophia Street property—I had to sell there and at Elizabeth Terrace, in the rear of Sophia Street; it all goes together—forms of agreement for sale were given me with regard to that—I stopped at Sophia Street about six weeks—I attempted to sell the property, but did not succeed—during that time Mr. and Mrs. Pantlin came to me several times—about 20th September the prisoner said he wanted to buy some more property; would I like to go shares with him in buying it; it was somewhere in Limehouse—I said I had no more money—he mentioned it several times; he seemed to think I had a good deal more money—on 23rd September he said he had my 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. lying idle in the bank, and as I could not advance him any more would I let him have the use of that—he said it would make no difference to the former agreement—I concurred, and permitted him to use the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., under the belief that it was lying idle at the bank—we executed this second agreement. (
<hi rend="italic">Dated 24th September, by which Bussell agreed to advance</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">to Louis Pantlin for six months at 71/2 per cent. interest, he to be retained in Pantlin's service at</hi> 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">and Pantlin bound him self, his executors, and administrators. This cancelled the former agreement.</hi>) The prisoner asked me for the first agreement; he kept worrying me for it for weeks; I would not give it to him, but at last I did, he worried me so—I remained at Sophia Street till November—from the time I left Southgate and came to Sophia Street I had nothing to do only trying to sell this property—I asked the prisoner to let me collect his rents, but he would not; I never collected any rents at South gate or Sophia Street—I received a letter from him at the end of October: "Please look up Kingsland this week and get addresses of properties"—at that time there was nothing at all for me to do—he said he wanted to purchase old properties there—on 31
<hi rend="italic">st</hi> December two weeks' wages were due to me—some time in November he wrote me a letter, in consequence of which my wages were reduced to 25
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week for a short time, that was a temporary arrangement—in January I wrote to him telling him two weeks were due to me, and I received cheques on the London and South-Western Bank, signed Miriam Pantlin, which were paid; they cleared me up to the end of December, 1886—since that time, up to which I have been paid, I have applied to the prisoner for my wages by letter—I nave had no answer—I nave been to the address 86,</p>
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<p>Leadenhall Street, I have not seen him there—I had no notice from the prisoner to leave, under this agreement or otherwise—in March. 1887, I received a letter from Elkins, and an appointment was made between us—some conversation took place, and as a result of that Mr. Snowden, an auctioneer, negotiated for me with Elkins and the prisoner as to the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and the settlement of my wages—no part of the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. has been paid to me, nor the arrears of my wages from the end of. 1886—on 5th April I left the matter entirely in the hands of Mr. Snowden—he told me about this agreement. (
<hi rend="italic">This stated that</hi> 45
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> 47,
<hi rend="italic">North Street, Plaistow, were thereby charged with</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">due from the prisoner to Mr. Bussell, and that the prisoner charged himself with the payment of that sum before June, 1887 Signed, Louis Pantlin Witness, Alfred Elkins.</hi>) No part of the money was paid me in June, 1887—I was not told, nor did I find out at the time, that there was a charge on that same property given to Mr. Mole, or of the deposit of the lease of those premises with Mr. Pitt field—while I was in the prisoner's employment I never met Mole or Mills; I have seen Lemon—there are two properties in Sophia Street—I had to sell houses in Poplar Street; Lemon was living there, the prisoner told me he was paying so much a year for that—I did not know Mole and Mills were in the prisoner's employment, and employed to undertake the same duties as I was.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> Mole was not employed at the same time as I—my wages ceased at the end of December, 1886; the last payment was by three cheques in January, which finished me up to December—I went to Holly Lodge in the afternoon first, I did not pay the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. then, but afterwards—Holly Lodge is a large place with a large kitchen and fruit garden—35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was a fair wage—I did not consider it very large, especially when I was putting down cash—that was no temptation to part with my money—I thought the situation was good—I might have paid 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. if he had offered 25
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., because I thought the security was good, and I might have worked up to a better position, I think I should—I said at the police-court "I would not have parted with my money unless I was going to receive 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week," but they did not take the rest of the evidence; I said "Considering all things," the security was good—I said "No" to that, at the police-court first, and then I said "All things considered"—it is true—I cannot say what I should have done, I might have parted with my deposit if I was going to receive less than 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—I asked him in the house "Does this house and property belong to you?" he said "Yes"—I had not gone into the garden then—I asked him if he was the owner, I did not say absolute owner—that applied to Holly Lodge and Southgate—my business was to sell the property at Southgate—I inserted the advertisements he sent me on the first occasion, and he inserted them himself after that—I saw many people—no sales were completed—it was not till 15th July last year that a warrant was applied for against the prisoner; he was apprehended, brought before a Magistrate at Stratford, charged with false pretences—the case was not gone into at all, I gave my evidence, I had six witnesses, and they were none of them allowed to be heard, the case was dismissed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The first agreement that I handed back to the prisoner was not put in before the Magistrate at Stratford, it was not forth coming, but on his behalf the agreement of 24th September was pro</p>
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<p>duced—that was executed on his telling me about the money at the bank—the Magistrate dismissed the case—I was then the only witness called, and mine was the only case under investigation—it was six months before the warrant was executed; we could not find the prisoner any where—he was taken early in February or at the end of January this year under a warrant and charged—I said before the Magistrate, "I parted with my money in consequence of all Pantlin's representations; all Pantlin's representations had some effect on my mind in inducing me to part with my money"—that was the whole truth—it was the security which principally induced me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-158" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-158" type="surname" value="SNOWDEN"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-158" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SNOWDEN</persName> </hi>. I am a financial agent, of 100, Lyndhurst Grove, Peckham—I am a friend of Bussell—in consequence of certain instructions I received from him, I negotiated in reference to certain matters with Mr. Elkins, and received this charge by post in a letter from Elkins—I showed it to Mr. Bussell.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MATITEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">here put in, under the Bankers' Books Evidence Act, a copy of the prisoner's banking account and an affidavit made by Francis Ravenscroft, manager of the Birkbeck Bank, showing that the account was opened in the name of Louis Pantlin, of Holly Lodge, Loughton, and 3, Granville Terrace, George Lane, Woodford, on 1st March, and closed on 23rd August, 1886; that on 23rd July</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">was paid in, and that the whole sum paid in was</hi> 69
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">of which</hi> 681. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">was drawn out, leaving a credit balance on 23rd August of</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-159" type="surname" value="STOKES"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-159" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STOKES</persName> </hi>. I live at Saratoga House, Milfield Road, Clapton—up to July, 1887, I was the owner of Holly Lodge, New Park, Loughton—the prisoner was only there as my tenant under a three years' agreement from September, 1885, at a rental of 45
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-160" type="surname" value="NASH"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-160" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE NASH</persName> </hi>. I am a painter, of 91, Lansdowne Road, Canning Town—in February, 1886, the prisoner engaged me to collect the rents of the houses at Southgate—I went to live there, at 44, Travers Road, the corner shop, in March, 1886—I paid no rent; the agreement between us was that I was to collect the rents, and he was to pay me 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week for doing so, I having a house to live in and all my expenses paid—I was not tenant of that house from year to year, I was only a weekly ser vant—when I first went there was only seven houses occupied out of the 27—I collected the rents from time to time, from March till November, 1886, and lived in the corner house—I had to take my wages out of the rent I collected, he never paid my wages—in November when I left his service he owed me 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. I think—I was prepared to do all the work of that service—the houses were in a dreadful state.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>. I paid no deposit and was asked for none—I did not furnish a statement every week of the rents I had collected, because I could get no settlement with the prisoner—I wanted to do so—I sent him a statement by post—I knew the prisoner wanted 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year for the house I lived in—I never paid it; I entered into no agreement by which I should pay it; I was to live there rent-free.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-161" type="surname" value="STOKES"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-161" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STOKES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I had occasion to go to Holly Lodge occasionally, from November, 1886, till January, 1887—there was scarcely any furniture between 19th November and 6th January, I understood it had been seized, there was next to none—I first noticed that on 19th November, 1886—they owed me one quarter's rent due the September previous.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-162" type="surname" value="CARLIN"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-162" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT CARLIN</persName> </hi>. I produce the deeds relating to the property in Sophia Street and Elizabeth Street—on 22nd April, 1886, there is a lease of those houses to Miriam Pantlin by Edward Carpenter for 80 years at 65
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year; on 13th May, 1886, an assignment of that lease by Miriam Pantlin to Mary Ann Elkins; on 30th July, 1886, a mortgage by Mary Ann Elkins to Richard Beeston Matthews; and on 30th June, 1887, an assignment of the lease by Richard Beeston Matthews to Caroline Gwynne.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-163" type="surname" value="MILLS"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-163" type="given" value="CHARLES EDWARD"/>CHARLES EDWARD MILLS</persName> </hi>. I am a bricklayer, of 13, Elthorne Road, Upper Holloway—on 3rd November, 1886, I saw an advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Daily Chronicle</hi> about a situation for a man who understood house repairs and could collect rents, &c.; house rent, free; wages, 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; state all particulars and amount of cash security—I sent a reply, and some three weeks afterwards I got a letter, signed Louis Pantlin—I have destroyed it—it asked me to call at 96, Campbell Road, Bow—I wrote and got an answer, signed Louis Pantlin, asking me to call at 144, East India Road—I called there and saw the prisoner—I told him about the advertisement that I had seen—he told me he had property at Southgate, Plaistow, and Poplar, and several other places he mentioned—he asked me if I came about the collector's place—I said "Yes"—he asked me inside, and he asked me what I was—I said "A bricklayer"—he said "That is just what I want," and he asked me if I could deposit 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he asked me if I would travel about—I went with him and Mrs. Pantlin to look at Commodore Court—when we got back from there an agreement was produced and read over by the prisoner—he asked me if I could deposit the 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said I had not got it with me then—he said my duties would be to do house repairs, collect rents, and attend sales, and then we made an appointment to meet on the Saturday, 11th December—I then went to 144, East India Road, and asked the prisoner if he could not take two bondsmen instead of the money—he said "No," he wished to have the money—he said I should go and see Sophia Street on the Monday, but I never went to see it—on the Saturday this agreement was prepared and read over to me, and then I signed it—it is the same as the others, but the salary was 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—no interest was to be paid on the 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on the same day I paid him a cheque for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. gold, making 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in all—the agreement was signed in counterpart; I took one and the prisoner one—I was to start on Monday, 13th December, at Commodore Court, High Street, Poplar—on Monday I went there, and commenced some repairs to some closets there—my wages were paid at the end of that week—I continued working there till 19th February—about three weeks before I left there Clegg came there—in January, 1887, the prisoner complained that I did not do enough work for him—in consequence of that I sent in a written month's notice to terminate the arrangement between us—I after wards saw him, and asked him if he had received my notice—he said "Yes"—about the 16th February I saw the prisoner again at 6, Ida Street—I told him I should want my money, and he told me he wanted me to stop on—I told him I should not do that; I wanted my money by Saturday, the 19th, which would be a month from the day on which I gave him notice—he said nothing—on the 19th I and Cole and Clegg went to 6, Ida Street—we did not see the prisoner, but we saw Mrs. Pantlin, who said something, and in consequence I waited—on 28th February I received this letter (
<hi rend="italic">Produced, saying that he expected to settle</hi> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">matters in a week, and signed L. Pantlin.</hi>) I waited the week, but heard no more from him—I then went to 86, Leadenhall Street—I saw Mrs. Pantlin there, and waited a few minutes and saw the prisoner, who told me I should receive a letter from Mr. Elkins—about a week after a letter came from Mr. Elkins—I saw Elkins several times—I did not get my 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. back—one week was owing for wages—5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid in to my solicitors on 29th March I think, that is all—I believed all the statements the prisoner made to me; they influenced my mind, and I acted upon them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>. The prisoner had 12 houses in Commodore Courts—my duties were to collect rents and get tenants—I have issued a writ against the prisoner and also against Elkins—I received no guarantee or anything from Elkins for the recovery of the 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I was with the prisoner from November till 19th February, and I gave notice, and asked for the recovery of my deposit, and when I did not receive it issued a writ in the High Court—he asked me to stay on with him; I refused—I would not have given my 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. if I had received a smaller salary—it was because of the wages and other things—I thought the place was genuine.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I believed what the prisoner said and parted with my money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-164" type="surname" value="PARKER"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-164" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS PARKER</persName> </hi>. Before 31
<hi rend="italic">st</hi> December, 1886, I saw an advertise ment in a newspaper, in consequence of which I went to 29, Woodstock Road, East India Road—I saw the prisoner there, and said I called to see him in answer to the advertisement I saw in the
<hi rend="italic">Daily Chronicle</hi> to collect rents, do house repairs, and attend sales—I am a house painter and decorator, and was then living at 41, Spencer Street, Battersea—I live at Maidenhead now—he said he wanted some one to place in some property at Southgate, to collect rents and do repairs—I was to have 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. per week and pay him 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cash security—I thought the wages would suit very well—I told him I could pay the cash security if it was required—he made no other statements to me at that time, only mentioned the Southgate property as belonging to him—I believed all that statement, and agreed to enter his service—I paid 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in cash on 31st December, 1886—I entered his service on 11th January, and endeavoured to collect rents at Southgate—I was more successful than a great many had been, from what I saw of the rent-books—I ceased collecting rents on 6th June, 1887—I gave notice to leave about a month previous, and asked for the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to be returned—I had the same agreement as Mr. Mole—I did not get my 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. back or any part of it—I only received wages one week the whole time; that was the week I was kept in London.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>. I deducted my wages from the rents, as the prisoner did not send them—I wrote and asked him how it was, and he said it was better for me to deduct my wages out of the rents, and he thought I should collect enough to pay me—I collected altogether 26
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; more than that was due for wages—he offered me no security for my 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he spoke of a charge on 47, High Street, Poplar—he said he had two shops to dispose of, and he thought a man in my trade might do very well if I bought one of them, and he would take my deposit, and I could pay the remainder—I am not one of the prosecutors; I am simply called as a witness by the police.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. In the result I gave my services gratuitously for six months, and lost 24
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of my 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18880319-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18880319-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-165" type="surname" value="MELLISH"/>
<interp inst="t18880319-name-165" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MELLISH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant K</hi>). On 2nd February I arrested the prisoner at Stratford—I read the warrant to him—he said "Very well"—I took him to the station; he made no reply—I was not at the police-court when he was there in July, 1887.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18880319-405-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. —
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, March</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st; and</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Friday and Saturday, March</hi> 23
<hi rend="italic">rd and</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1888.</p>
<p>Before Mr. Recorder.</p>
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<p>406.
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