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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-2" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-3" type="given" value="EDWARD T. E."/>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY</persName>, ESQ.,</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, December 14th, 1885, and following days.</p>
<p>Including cases committed to this Court under Order in Council and</p>
<p>Winter Assize Act.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE</hi> the
<hi rend="smallCaps">RIGHT HON</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN STAPLES, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; the Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-4" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HAWKINS</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's High Court of Justice; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM LAWRENCE</hi>, Esq., Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES CLARKE LAWRENCE</hi>, Bart., Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN WHITTAKER ELLIS</hi>, Bart., M.P., and
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND COTTON</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHAMBERS</hi>, Knt., Q.C., Recorder of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR REGINALD HANSON</hi>, Knt.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">HERBERT JAMESON WATERLOW</hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-5" type="given" value="EDWARD JAMES"/>EDWARD JAMES GRAY</persName> </hi>, Esq., and
<hi rend="smallCaps">STUART KNILL</hi>, Esq., other of the Aldermen of the said City; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM THOMAS CHARLEY</hi>, Knt., Q.C., D.C.L., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</hi>, Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court: Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol Delivery, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DAVID EVANS</hi>, Esq., Alderman,</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-6" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CLARKE</persName> </hi>, Esq.,</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GEORGE ROSE INNES</hi>, Junior, Esq.,</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WYNNE EDWIN BAXTER</hi>, Esq.,</p>
<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, December</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, December</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and nine penny stamps of
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and twenty-four penny stamps of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted; Mr. Purcell Defended.</hi> </p>
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<p>Bow Road—on 30th October, between 5.15 and 6 p.m., the prisoner came in and bespoke goods value 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and directed them to be sent to Mrs. Hatley, Fairfield Road, Bow—I sent them by the errand boy, Richard Thompson, and gave him change amounting with the goods to a half-sovereign—he brought a half-sovereign back, which I examined and found was bad; it was light and dull, this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I afterwards went with the boy to the address given but could not find the prisoner—I then took the coin to the police-station and gave it to Inspector Jackson—I did not get back my goods—we had just lit up when she came in and she was there about three minutes.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> She was a perfect stranger to me—I was taken to Worship Street Police-court on the 10th, into a room where there were five or six women dressed as though they were going out—I then picked out this woman—I am perfectly sure of her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-18" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN JACKSON</persName> </hi> (
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-19" type="given" value="RICHARD PAUL"/>RICHARD PAUL THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am errand boy to Mr. Collier, a grocer, of Bow Road—on 30th October I was sent to 79, Fairfield Road with some grocery, and Mr. Hobbs gave me 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I took the grocery there and saw the prisoner standing at the door—I had not seen her in the shop—she said "Don't knock, there is nobody in; we have only just moved in here"—I then gave her the goods—she gave me this half-sovereign and I gave her the change I had received from Mr Hobbs and took the half-sovereign back to him—I had no other half-sovereign or coin about me—we went back afterwards to Fairfield Road to see if we could find the prisoner but could not—I described her to the police and saw her next at Worship Street Police-court and recognised her.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am 12 years old—the woman that I saw at the door was a perfect stranger to me; I was talking to her about two minutes—at the police-station I saw six women in a row, and the prisoner was the last one, and I went along and touched her—Mr. Hobbs went there the same day that I did, and went into the room before me—I said before the Magistrate "I didn't see her again till I saw her a fortnight ago. I was not quite sure of her at first; directly I saw her I knew her. There were four other women besides the prisoner in the room, and I don't think the prisoner was there at first; in about two minutes I picked her out"—that is quite right—there is a long garden in front of this house; it was very dark there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I could see the number on the door, because they were brass—I didn't see the prisoner at first;, she was the last in the row, but when I came up to her I recognised her.</p>
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<lb/>mercial Road—on 3rd November, about 1.30, the prisoner came into my shop and ordered some goods, amounting to 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., to be sent to her address, 290, Burdett Road; she gave the name of Smith, and paid she had just moved in there—I gave the goods to the errand boy, Clarke, with some directions, and he returned in about ten minutes with this note, "One tin best condensed milk, kindly"—part of it has been torn off—in consequence of that, and of what the boy said, I gave him a tin of milk and 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, which was the difference between these goods and a sovereign—he went away and came back in about 15 minutes—290, Burdett Road, is about 600 yards from my shop—he brought this</p>
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<p>bad sovereign back—I went to that address with the boy and no such person had been there—I showed the coin to my master and afterwards gave it to the police—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—the gas was just lit when she came in—I saw her again about a fortnight afterwards at Worship Street Police-court, and have no doubt she is the same person.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The woman was a stranger to me; she was in the shop about eight minutes—when I went to Worship Street Police-court Mr. Hobbs and the boy were there—I did not speak a word to them or they to me, and they did not know what I was there for.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-21" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE YOUNG</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). I received this coin from Sergeant Brown, and have produced it here to-day.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner was remanded twice at Worship Street—during those intervals about 12 persons altogether came there to see if they could identify her, and four of them did so.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I saw the witnesses identify her—Thompson pointed her out in about half a minute.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. He did not point to anybody else—the other people who came to see if they could identify her came relative to other charges.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-22" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CLARKE</persName> </hi>. I am errand boy to Mr. Kelly, a grocer, of 815, Commercial Road—on 3rd November Mr. Durham gave me some goods to take to 290, Burdett Road, with 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I went there and saw the prisoner at the top of the steps, just inside the gate—she said "Oh, you have saved me a good journey, you might run back with this note."—I took the note back with the goods to the shop—this is part of it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it had on it, "A tin of best milk and change of a sovereign, and price
<lb/>list of mineral waters"—I then went to the house again and saw the prisoner outside the gate and gave her the goods, which she put in her apron—she then gave me this counterfeit sovereign, which I took back to the shop and gave to Mr. Durham—after that I again went back to the house, but could not see the prisoner—I had not seen her at the shop—she was dressed rather dark.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am 14 years old; I was with the prisoner each time about four minutes—I said before the Magistrate, "I was not quite sure of her when I first saw her; no one moved his head; I am not quite sure about her now"—to the best of my knowledge she is the woman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-23" type="given" value="FRANK JOHAKIM"/>FRANK JOHAKIM TIDIMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer, at 126, Green Street, Bethnal Green—on 10th November, about 10 a.m., a boy came into my shop—the prisoner subsequently said it was her boy—he put down a half-crown and asked for change—as soon as it was put down on the counter I saw it was bad, and said "Where do you come from?"—he said, "My mother is waiting round the corner"—the prisoner was brought in after
<lb/>wards, and I heard her say that her husband had got the half-sovereign in change the night before at a public-house—the boy was given in charge and afterwards was discharged.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When the boy said his mother was waiting round the corner I kept him in the shop and sent my man for a policeman—one came in about a minute—the prisoner was then brought in and she said that she had sent the boy in for the change—I had not before to my knowledge seen her.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-24" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-24" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BUCKENHAM</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 490). On 10th November I was called to Mr. Tidiman's shop and found the boy there in custody of K 526—the prisoner was standing about 50 yards round the corner up</p>
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<p>Warely Street—I went up to her and said "Is your name Mrs. Waugh
<lb/>man?"—she said "Yes"—I said "Did you send your boy to change a half-crown?"—she said "Yes, I am waiting for it"—I said "Do you know it was a bad one?"—she said "No, I did not; I have some more here," and handed me these two half-crowns and a florin, good money—I then took her to the shop—on the way she said she didn't know any
<lb/>thing about it being bad—I said she would have to go to the station with the boy—on the way there she said she went into the Horns public-house the night previous to change a sovereign, and it must have been given to her there—at the station she gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good silver—nothing was found on her.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When I got back into the shop the boy said "They wouldn't change it at the other corner, and so I brought it here"—she said "Why didn't you bring it back to me?"</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-25" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-25" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES DRURY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 526). On 10th November I was called into Mr. Tidiman's shop, and was given this coin—the boy was in the shop, and said his mother had sent him there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have made inquiries about the prisoner, and find her to be a respectable woman living with her husband, both hard-working people.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-26" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-26" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-26" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These three coins are bad; they are made of pewter pots and gilded by a battery.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received an excellent character.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-76-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury</hi>.
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<hi rend="italic">Her husband entered into recognisances to bring her up for judgment if called upon.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, December</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18851214-77-offence-1 t18851214-name-28"/>Joseph Simmons Lavington</persName> and another, his masters.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. KEITH FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MOYSES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">After the case had commenced the prisoner wished to withdraw his plea, and so stating in the hearing of the Jury, they found a verdict of</hi>
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<interp inst="t18851214-77-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">There were other charges against the prisoner</hi>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Six Years' Penal Servitude</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18851214-78-offence-1 t18851214-name-30"/>Ann Gindra</persName>, a girl under the age of 13</rs>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18851214-78-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of the attempt</hi> </rs>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-78-18851214 t18851214-78-punishment-8"/>T
<hi rend="italic">welve Months' Hard Labour</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, December</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN SMITH</hi> (40)</persName>
<rs id="t18851214-79-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18851214-79-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-79-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-32" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-32" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN JENKINS</persName> </hi>. I am an umbrella maker of 50, New Oxford Street—on 20th November the prisoner came to my door, picked out a sixpenny stick from a bundle on the step, and came in for a twopenny ferrule to be put</p>
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<p>on—he offered a half-crown—I told him it was bad and broke it in a vice on the counter—these are the pieces—he said "A conductor give it to me in change of a half-sovereign," and to a gentleman waiting to be served he said "This may get me into trouble"—I said "If you have any more change pay me for the stick, and that is all I want"—he put his hand in his fob pocket and produced a second half-crown, which I saw was bad—I endea
<lb/>voured to get it from him, but he backed from the counter, turned round, and put it in his mouth—I sent my son for a constable, who had to get it out of his mouth—the prisoner made use of bad language to him—the constable sent for help and they searched the prisoner—nothing was found on him—the two pieces of the first coin I had laid on the counter; the prisoner made a grab to get them and got one piece, I got the other and gave it to the constable—I gave the prisoner in charge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The pieces remained on the counter for a second or so—I just touched the second half-crown with my fingers, you literally chewed it up—I saw you get it in your mouth—my assistant was on the same side of the counter as myself, and must have seen all that passed.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The second coin felt greasy—I was three feet from the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-33" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-33" type="surname" value="JENKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-33" type="given" value="JOHN EDWARD"/>JOHN EDWARD JENKINS</persName> </hi>. I am the son of the last witness—I saw the prisoner hand my father this half-crown for the stick—I asked him where he got it—he said he had it given him by a publican, and then by a conductor of a
<hi rend="italic">'bus</hi>—my father asked him once or twice how he got it, and said "Have you any more money to pay for the stick?"—the prisoner said he had, and took another half-crown out of his pocket, which he was passing to my father, when I snatched at it, and the prisoner passed it somewhere—I did not see where it went to—I jumped over the counter and went for a policeman, and when I came back my father motioned to me to look at the prisoner's mouth—the policeman took hold of the prisoner's throat and mouth.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was to the left of my father, only the width of the counter from you—my father broke the first half-crown with a pair of nippers, I think—you took the change as he passed the pieces towards you—I won't swear if the half-crown remained on the counter—the second half-crown went near your mouth—when you took it out of your pocket I could see by the light shining on it that it was bad, as you were thinking whether to tender it or not—my father snatched at it and you put it near your mouth—I only saw your hand go in the direction of your mouth—the coin was in your hand.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-34" type="surname" value="PURDY"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-34" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP PURDY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 97). On 20th November I was sent to this shop, "where Mr. Jenkins charged the prisoner with uttering a counterfeit half-crown—the prisoner spoke very thick, and said he had given him a two-shilling piece in change for a bad half-crown—Mr. Jenkins said it was false, and that the prisoner had got a piece of money in his mouth—I asked the prisoner to open his mouth, caught him by the throat, and tried to choke him to make him disgorge it—I am almost certain he had something in his mouth, I could not make him open it; I fancy he swallowed it—when I went in he rubbed his mouth with his lips, as if he was trying to get something down his throat—I took him to the station, where in answer to the charge he said he had got the two-shilling piece still—I found this broken piece of coin in his pocket, but no other money—Mr. Jenkins gave me this piece of a bad half-crown—</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not afterwards take a half-crown out of your pocket, only this small piece.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-35" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Examiner of Coins to Her Majesty's Mint—these are two pieces of a bad half-crown—a greasy feeling is an indication of a bad one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence declared the impossibility of his swallowing a half-crown, and dated that the first one he did not know to be bad, and the second he only put in his mouth to try.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-79-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>**
<hi rend="italic"> to unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin in November, 1884.—
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-37" type="given" value="HENRY EDWARD"/>HENRY EDWARD STUBBINGS</persName> </hi>. I am a tobacconist, of 109, London Wall—on 29th November, about a quarter-past 2, I served the prisoner with an ounce of tobacco, price 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he tendered a sovereign—I found it was bad, and said "Where did you get it from?"—he said "I received it in wages last week"—I sent for a constable and told him—the prisoner said that he had received it in wages—I gave it to the constable—this is it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I swear I had no other money in the pocket I put this coin into—I gave the constable also a bad florin and a half-crown which I had received.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 202). Mr. Stubbings gave the prisoner into my custody—I said "How do you account for the posses
<lb/>sion of this coin?"—he said "I got it from my last employer's where I was at work"—I said "Where does your employer live?"—he said "At Bedford Place, Bedford Iron Foundry, Mr. Dean"—at the station he said he should not like to swear he received it from Mr. Dean—I said "Did you get it from any one else then?"—he said no, he had not received any other money from any other quarter—I asked him "How long have you been away from your employer's?"—he said he had been away about a week—I said "Have you been at work anywhere since then?"—he said "I have not"—on searching him I found one penny and an ounce of tobacco—he gave the address, 13, East Street, Walworth—I went there, and on returning I said to the prisoner that I had been there, and he was not known there—he said he thought it must be a baker's shop—I paid it was a butcher's—there is only one No. 13 in that street—communication was made to Bedford, in consequence of which Inspector Phelps is here—I put none of that conversation in writing.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-39" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM POTTINGER</persName> </hi>. I am a butcher, of 13, East Street, Walworth Road, the prisoner never lived there—I don't know him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Inspector, Bedford Police</hi>). There is no such place as Bedford Place, Bedford, and no such person as Mr. Dean, an iron founder—I have known Bedford for many years.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-41" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This coin is bad, and is made of pewter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence denied any guilty knowledge.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-80-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> **
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction of felony at this Court in May, 1883, in the name of
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-42" type="given" value="HENRY"/>Henry Heard</persName>, of feloniously uttering counterfiet coin. —
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-80-18851214 t18851214-80-punishment-10"/>Five yearsPenalServitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD SIMKINS</hi> (20)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18851214-81-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-45" type="given" value="LYDIA"/>LYDIA CLEARY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Edmund Cleary—we live at Sessions House Chambers, Clerkenwell Road—on 14th November we kept a fruit and oyster shop in Farringdon Road—on Saturday, 14th November, about 8.30, Redman came in for a dozen oysters, which came to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a sovereign and I gave him 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I gave him a napkin and he ate the oysters—I gave the sovereign to my husband, it was the only one I had—he afterwards gave it back to me and I gave it to the police—between 11 and 12 that night I saw that it was bad—I put it between two weights and knocked a little bit off the edge—I could not break it—I next saw the prisoner at Marylebone, and picked him out from eight or nine others.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I identify you by your face, figure, and height—the man did not take his hat off—when I went to identify the man I did not see you the first time I passed down, but the second time I looked you in the face and said you were the man—I said at the police-court I was quite sure you were the man—I did not notice your hands while you were eating the oysters.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-46" type="given" value="EDMUND"/>EDMUND CLEARY</persName> </hi>. I live with my wife at Sessions House Chambers, Clerkenwell—between 11 and 12 p.m. on 14th November she gave me this counterfeit sovereign—I gave it back to her at once.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-47" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ROCKLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). I received this counterfeit sovereign from Mrs. Cleary on 18th November, and have produced it here to-day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-48" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-48" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES LIDDLE</persName> </hi>. I keep a coffee-shop at 111, Kentish Town Road—on 18th November, about 5.30, the two prisoners came in together and had two cups of coffee and bread-and-butter, which would be 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I was at the farther end of the shop—Simkins gave my servant a shilling; she brought it to me; I rubbed it with my thumb and forefinger and discovered it was bad—I spoke to the girl, and then went down the shop and said to Simkins, "What shall I do with this?"—he said, "Take for what we have had"—I said, "Out of that? that is worthless; have you any more about you like it?"—he said, "I have just got off an omnibus, and have taken it in change; I wish you to give me back the coin, and I will give you a good one in return"—I said, "No, I have it, and I will keep it now"—I sent for a constable, who said to Redman, who was on the opposite side of the table to Simkins, "Get up, and let's see what is under the table," and stooped under the table—I saw a newspaper lying on the seat close to Redman; I took it in my hand, reached over the back of the box, shook the paper, and a bad shilling fell out—these are two bad coins (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Redman.</hi> There was no newspaper on the seat before you came in—I did not see you with the newspaper.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I did not see him come in with one in his hand.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Simkins.</hi> You offered me a good shilling in exchange for the bad one.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-49" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-49" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-49" type="given" value="LOUISA"/>LOUISA BRANDRETH</persName> </hi>. I am a waitress in Mr. Liddle's service—on 18th November I served the two prisoners with two cups of coffee and bread-and-butter,</p>
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<p>which came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—Simkins gave me this shilling; I gave it to Mr. Liddle, telling him it was bad—the two prisoners sat opposite to one another; I saw them speaking together.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-50" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TURNER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y.R.</hi> 23). I was called, and saw the two prisoners sitting at a table—the prosecutor said he had received a bad shilling from Simkins in payment for refreshment, and he would give them in custody—I detained them, and sent for assistance—I said, "You hear what the prosecutor says?"—Simkins said, "I got it off a
<hi rend="italic">'bus</hi> man"—Redman made no answer, but got off his seat to go, and said, "It is unfortunate I should be here in this affair"—I told him to wait—on the arrival of another constable I told them to get clear of the table, and I asked the constable to look if there was anything, when the prosecutor caught hold of a paper by Redman's side on the seat, and a shilling fell out on the floor; the other constable picked it up—I found on Redman three sixpences in silver and 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. bronze, and a shilling on Simkins—when asked their addresses Redman said, "I have no home"—Simkins said the same—this shilling I got from the prosecutor, and this from the other constable—the newspaper was close to Redman, it must have touched his clothes.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Redman.</hi> You said, "I shall get myself into a nice scrape coming to have a cup of coffee"—you went quietly to the station—it was 10 minutes before the other constable came, but I had my arm on your coat, you could not get away—I only noticed one paper near you; that was not out of your reach.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-51" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FENNEMORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 565). I went to this shop, and found the prisoners sitting opposite one another at the same table—I saw Liddle lift up a paper which was by Redman's side; a shilling fell out, and I picked it up—I said, "Here is another bad one"—the prisoners said nothing—I gave it to Turner—I searched the shop, and Simkins, on whom I found a good shilling—I took the prisoners to the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-52" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a good farthing, on the reverse side of which an imitation half-sovereign has been put, and then it has been gilded; it bears a date on both sides—these are two counterfeit shillings from different moulds.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Redman in his statement before the Magistrate and in his defence, denied all knowledge of the transaction at the oyster shop, and stated that he merely went into the coffee-shop at Simkins's invitation, and knew nothing of the coin in the newspaper. Simkins denied all guilty knowledge.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">REDMAN</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Nine Months' Hard Labour.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SIMKINS</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on the first Count</hi> </rs>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Six Months' Hard Labour</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18851214-82-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Un
<lb/>lawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-55" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE FEATHERSTONE</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the Prince of Wales, Ebury Street, Pimlico—on 25th August the female prisoner came in about a quarter to 9 p.m. dressed as a domestic, with a muslin apron—she ordered a bottle of whisky to be sent to 120, Ebury Street; about a minute afterwards she came and asked us to send change for a sovereign with the whisky, as Mrs. Martin had no change—she did not give her own name—I sent the change and whisky by the potman, Howard—I did not see the sovereign.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-56" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOWARD</persName> </hi>. I am potman at this public-house—about a quarter to 9 on 25th August I was standing outside the house when the female prisoner went in—when she came out I asked her if she had left an order—she said "Yes," and then "Oh dear, I forgot to tell them to send the change for a sovereign," and she went in again—I went inside to see about the order—I took the bottle of whisky and 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and was directed to 120, Ebury Street—when nearing there the female prisoner came up to me with a basket and said "Our people are waiting for this whisky; I was just coming after it; have you brought the change for the sovereign?"—I said "Yes"—she said "Here is the sovereign," and handed me this—I gave her the change and the bottle of whisky—I gave the sovereign to Mr. Featherstone, and he put it in his mouth and sounded it on the counter, and found it was counterfeit—after that I went to 120, Ebury Street—I took the coin to the station-house and gave it to Inspector Adams—on the 18th I identified the prisoner from seven or eight women at Westminster Police-court—she had no apron or mob cap on then.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-57" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ADAMS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). This is the counterfeit sovereign Howard gave me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-58" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS LLOYD</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Debac, a grocer, at 37, Church Street, Marylebone—about 7.40 p.m. on 13th November the female prisoner came and ordered articles to the amount of 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to be sent to 39, North Bank and paid for on delivery—I gave them to Kingston, our errand boy—North Bank is about 15 minutes' walk from our place—I was not there when the boy returned—I afterwards picked out the prisoner from about seven other females.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-59" type="surname" value="KINGSTON"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-59" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL KINGSTON</persName> </hi>. I am errand boy to Mr. Debac—Mr. Jenner, his manager, gave me goods to take to 39, North Bank—I went there and just as I got to the door of the garden the female prisoner came to me from the direction of the house and asked me if I was from the grocer's—I said "Yes"—she said "Take this letter back to the shop and say I want some more goods." (
<hi rend="italic">This requested a pound of coffee and change far a sovereign to be sent.</hi>) I took the note back with the goods to the shop, and received more goods and 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from Mr. Jenner—I then went towards the house again, but the female prisoner met me about 30 yards from the door, and said "Did not I tell you to be quick?"—I said "Yes"—she said I had not made as much haste as I could, and she said "Master is blowing me up" because she had not got the goods—I gave her the goods—she said "Have you got the change with you?"—I said "Yes," and gave it her—she gave me this coin, which I gave to Mr. Jenner at the shop—I afterwards went back with Mr. Jenner to 39, North Bank, but saw nothing of the prisoner there—a constable was afterwards called in, who marked the coin as it is now—I did not look particularly at the amount of money given to me to give to the prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-60" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN JENNER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Debac—on 18th November I gave Kingston some groceries with directions—he returned about a quarter of an hour afterwards with this note in an envelope not addressed; in con
<lb/>sequence of that I gave him half a pound of coffee and 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, I think—he returned in about the same time, and then gave me this coin, which I immediately discovered to be bad—I gave it to Constable Leonard on the Saturday morning—I sent Garrodd and Kingston out again with directions to 39, North Bank, and went there myself with a constable—</p>
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<p>we only went to the door and knocked; we did not go inside—I did not see the female prisoner there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-61" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LEONARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Constable S</hi>). From a communication made to me, I went to 37, Church Street, where this coin was shown to me—I marked it in the presence of Mr. Jenner and the boy.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-62" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-62" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD CROSSLEY</persName> </hi>. I am an oil and colourman, at Hendon Street, Pimlico—at half-past 2 p.m. on 18th November the female prisoner came to my shop and asked my assistant in my presence for half a pound of soap, price 2 1/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—my assistant served her—she gave a two-shilling piece—my assistant held it up, and said "This is a bad one"—the prisoner seemed surprised, and said "I must have had the coin some days; I do not know where I had it from"—she searched her pocket for other money and produced twopence—I slightly bent the coin in my hand, and gave it back to her, and she went away—I went to the other side of the road and saw her joined by the male prisoner—they went in company into Sussex Street—I met and spoke to a constable—the prisoners did not see me—the female went into Bacon's shop in Sussex Street, the male prisoner turned to the right; they did not join again—I went into the shop, and subsequently the male prisoner was brought in there—I said to the young woman behind the counter of the shop "Have you served this lady?"—she said "Yes"—I said "What with?"—she said "Some soap and soda"—I said "What have you taken from her?"—she said "This two-shilling piece"—that was the one tendered to me—I asked the young woman to try it; she rang it and looked at it, and said she thought it was good—Mr. Bacon was called in, and the prisoner was given into custody—I knew the coin again, because I had bent it and made a nick in the edge.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-63" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-63" type="surname" value="WHEELER"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-63" type="given" value="JULIA"/>JULIA WHEELER</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Crossley—on 18th November the female prisoner came in for half a pound of soap—I served her with it—it was 2 1/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me this florin; I saw it was bad—I asked her if she knew it was bad—she said "No, I was not aware of it"—I handed the florin to Mr. Crossley—the prisoner gave me twopence for the soap and left, and Mr. Crossley followed her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-64" type="given" value="GRACE"/>GRACE GEAN</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Bacon, oilman, Sussex Street, Pimlico—on 18th November, about a quarter to 1, the female prisoner came to our shop for half a pound of soap and two pounds of soda, which came to 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a two-shilling piece in payment—just as I received it Mr. Crossley came in and said, in the hearing of the prisoner, "Have you taken two shillings from the prisoner?"—I said "Yes"—he said "Is it good?"—I said "I have not looked at it"—I thought it was good at that time, and was just going to give her change—Mr. Crossley asked me to give him the coin, but he being a stranger I called Mr. Bacon from his dinner, and he weighed it and said it was very light.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-65" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BACON</persName> </hi>. I keep a shop at 18, Sussex Street, Pimlico—on 18th November I was called into the shop by the last witness, who showed me a florin and said "I have taken this coin from this good lady, and that gentleman wants me to give it to him; I have called you instead"—I said "It is a pretty good-looking one, but my sight is bad," and I put it in the tea scale with a proper florin on the other side—it was very light—I said to the prisoner "I should be very sorry to put you in a wrong position if you have come with it unknowingly; if you had come with it knowingly I should have thought it my duty to give you in charge"—</p>
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<p>she said she had taken it in change on Friday or Saturday with other money, she did not know where—a constable brought in the male prisoner—what had occurred to Mr. Crossley was stated in their presence—the male prisoner said he had no other money about him—the con
<lb/>stable searched him; they were taken into custody—I handed the florin to the constable.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-66" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROOKE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 324). The male prisoner was pointed out to me by Mr. Crossley on the 18th—he was by himself, about 50 yards from Bacon's shop—I followed him; he went round two or three streets—I tapped him on the shoulder—he said "What do you want me for?"—I told him if he would come back to the shop he would have a further explanation—I brought him back to Mr. Bacon's shop—the female prisoner was there; she said "That is my brother"—I searched him in the shop; I found 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. bronze—I subsequently searched him at the station, and as I was getting to his bosom he said "I may as well let you have them," and out of his bosom he took these seven florins, wrapped separately in paper—I did not ask him how he came by them.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-67" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 37). On 18th November I was called to Mr. Bacon's shop by Mr. Crossley—Mr. Bacon, in the female prisoner's presence, said "If this woman came by this coin accidentally I don't wish to charge her; but if she got it knowingly I will charge her"—that was referring to the florin—she said "I came by it last Friday; I received it in change, but I don't know where"—she was given in custody and searched; nothing was found on her—I received from Mr. Bacon this bad two-shilling piece—in Sergeant Scott's presence I saw five bad florins found in the back kitchen of the address they gave, 47, Hereford Street, Marylebone.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-68" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY REARDON</persName> </hi>. I collect the rents at 47, Hereford Street—the prisoners have occupied the two kitchens there with their father and mother—I have seen the prisoners there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-69" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SCOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant B</hi>). I went to 47, Hereford Street, on the 29th of last month, and searched the front and back kitchens and found five counterfeit shillings on the shelf, wrapped separately in paper, and with paper round them—the prisoner's mother and brother and Sergeant Smith were there at the time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-70" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are two bad sovereigns from different moulds—this is a bad florin—the counterfeit shillings found in the kitchen and the florins found on the prisoner are bad—the florin tendered is from the same mould as one of the seven found on the man—bad coins when made are rubbed with lampblack and wrapped in paper, and then before they are uttered the paper is taken off, and the coin is rubbed to remove the lampblack.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Catherine Moore, in her statement before the Magistrate, denied all guilty knowledge, and stated her brother gave her the florin. Morris Moore stated that he had received the money in payment from a betting man.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CATHERINE MOORE</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Twelve Months' Hard labour.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MORRIS MOORE</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Nine Months' Hard Labour.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN CHALWRIGHT</hi> (19)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18851214-83-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully having counterfeit coin in his possession, with intent to utter it.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-72" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CHARD</persName> </hi>. I am salesman to Mr. McCowens, a bootmaker, of 6, Little Newport Street, Leicester Square—on 5th December, about 20 minutes or half-past 6, the prisoner came in for a pair of boots—he selected a pair of the value of 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he offered me these three bad half-crowns—I asked him where he got them from—he said "My father gave them to me," and that he would take them home again—I asked him where he lived—he said 7, King Street, Regent Street—I gave the half-crowns to a police constable.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-73" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD LOOME</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman C</hi> 289). I was called to this shop and the prisoner was given into my custody—I told him I should take him to the station on the charge of uttering counterfeit coin—he said he picked them up in Coventry Street, which is close by—I went to 7, King Street, Regent Street, where his father, who is a respectable man, lives—the boy is a great trouble to him—I searched the house.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-74" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are bad, from different moulds.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-83-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-83-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18851214-83-punishment-15" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-83-18851214 t18851214-83-punishment-15"/>Six Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, December</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JULIUS HAHN</hi> (29)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18851214-84-offence-1 t18851214-name-76"/>Christina Fischer</persName>, under the age of 16, out of the possession of her father and against his will.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. MEAD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-77" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-77" type="given" value="CHRISTINA"/>CHRISTINA FISCHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Interpreted</hi>). My parents call me Emily Fischer—I was 13 last March—on Saturday, October 24th, the prisoner come to see my parents at 59, Greenfield Street, Commercial Road—we have known him for some two years—he lodged at the same house some time ago—he brought his two children with him, a child of five years and a baby of four months—I took charge of them when he went away—I saw him return about 11 o'clock—I had got the children ready to go—I heard him say during the day that he gas going to Germany—my father sent me out on an errand—I did not put any hat or jacket on—I brought back what I was sent for, and went out again to meet a friend, and as I was coming back I met the prisoner with his children—he said "Will you come with me to Black wall to carry the baby?" and I said "Yes"—I then went home to get my hat—I did not see my parents or any one else—I carried the baby to the Black wall Docks; it is about 10 minutes' walk from where I live—when we reached Blackwall the prisoner said "Will you come with me a little way to the ship? you cannot get out of this gate; you must go by a little boat on board"—I then went downstairs and put the baby to bed—the ship started—I was downstairs about five minutes—I went on deck, and the prisoner said I should have to go with him to Rotterdam—I began to cry, and he threatened me, and said if I told any one I should see what he would give me—I said I would tell the captain—I then went below, and he followed me, and wanted to kiss me—I was not lying down with the children, but sitting up—I would not let him—afterwards he came down again and tried to put his hand up my clothes—I threatened I would tell the captain, and he went on deck—I told a woman and she told the steward—I did not hear what she said to the steward—I have not seen the man to whom the woman spoke here to-day—the prisoner gave me 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for a ticket, and afterwards I took a return</p>
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<p>ticket for another 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I did not get a return ticket first, for I did not know I could—I put the change in my purse, which I put in the cup
<lb/>board where the prisoner could get it—we got to Rotterdam on Sunday morning—the prisoner asked me to go with him to to Bingen—I would not go—he tried to get me on the ship to go—I gave the baby to him and ran away, and went on board another ship, and got back at 2.30 on the Monday.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I did not go on board by a little boat at Blackwall—I did not offer to go with you—it is not true that you gave me 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. as we went on board, or that I asked you for it—you wanted to touch me but I would not let you—you asked me to go with you to Bingen—there was another man going there too, and he said "It is nicer than it is in England."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> That was in the prisoner's presence—the prisoner said "Why don't you go with me to Bingen? it is nicer there than in England."</p>
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<persName id="t18851214-name-78" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-78" type="surname" value="FISCHER"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-78" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FISCHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Interpreted</hi>). I live at 59, Greenfield Street, Com
<lb/>mercial Road, and am a printer—the last witness is my daughter—she was christened Christina, but we call her Emily—she was born on the 15th March, 1872, in Germany—I have known the prisoner for about two years—on Saturday, 24th October, he came to my house about 8 o'clock a.m. with two children—my wife was with me at the time—I think the prisoner spoke to her—the two children were taken upstairs—the prisoner said he intended to go to Germany that day—he said he was going to the West End, and asked to leave the children there till he returned—he returned about 11 o'clock—he afterwards said "Good-bye," and went away with the children—shortly before I sent my daughter out for a paper—she came back with it and went out again before the prisoner left—I did not see her again until 3 o'clock the following Monday—I did not consent to the prisoner's taking her away—when she did not come back on the Saturday I made inquiries at Blackwall Docks, and on Monday I went to Scotland Yard and gave information to the police—I afterwards went with Inspector Moser to the Thames Police-Court, and obtained a warrant for the prisoner's arrest.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I do not recollect your mentioning on the 19th that you intended to go to Germany—it is not true that when you were at my house I asked you for a pair of boots—it is not true that when my family were present you asked my wife to let the girl go with you, and I did not make any reply—I did not know that you intended to bring the children to my house.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-79" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-79" type="surname" value="FISCHER"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-79" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY FISCHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Interpreted</hi>). I am the wife of the last witness—I recollect my daughter going away on Saturday, 24th October—I gave no consent to the prisoner for the child to go away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You did not ask my permission to let the girl go with you to Blackwall—you told me on the 19th that you would bring the children to our house—you said you had a pair of boots, and I said if they fitted my children I would purchase them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-80" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-80" type="given" value="MORRIS"/>MORRIS MOSER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). On 5th November, about 11 o'clock, I saw the prisoner in Greenfield Street, Commercial Road—I had been the same day to the Thames Police-court and obtained a warrant against the prisoner—I said, "I am a police officer, and hold a warrant against you for abduction; is your name Hahn?"—he said "Yes"—I asked</p>
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<p>him if he understood English, and he said "No"—he made a statement, which I took down. (
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi> "I resided at 59, Greenfield Street 18 months, and then went to the West End, and my wife was taken to the hospital, where she died. On the morning I went to Germany I left my children with Mrs. Fischer, my baby and the other child. Mrs. Fischer allowed her daughter to go as far as Black wall. I did not know what to do with my children on board ship, and asked her to take the baby. She offered her services to me, saying she would like to go with me to Rotterdam. I then gave her 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and afterwards another shilling. I then told the captain to take her back again. I should be ashamed to take a child away from school. I am 29 years of age.")</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Interpreted</hi>) (
<hi rend="italic">Examined by the Prisoner</hi>). I asked you if the little girl of 13 was your servant—you said, "Yes, that is my servant, I had to take my servant with me to look after the children"—I told the girl on the ship to take a return ticket as she intended to return to London—she said, "Yes, that is better, for I want to return to-morrow by the Mascotte"—a return ticket costs 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—she had taken a single ticket—we did not want a boat to get on the steamer at Black
<lb/>wall Docks—I did not see that the girl was crying on board—I have not heard that you used indecent language towards her—I saw you in the cabin in the afternoon about 3 or 4 o'clock, and I saw you also come out of the ladies' cabin—the girl did not tell me that she had been touched in any way in an indecent manner—I never heard that she was compelled to go on board ship.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>. When the prisoner was on board he was a little bit drunk—after that he took two bottles of beer, and that is all he had on board—the only thing I could not make out was if he was sent out by the Society why he should take a servant with him—I asked the little girl, "Have you to pay for yourself?" and she said "Yes."</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. The steamer was alongside the pier—I saw them come on board on the fore part of the ship—I next saw the girl about 10 minutes or a quarter of an hour after; we had not then left the pier—I saw the girl in the gentleman's cabin first with the children, and after that she was in the ladies' cabin—I saw her next when we left the pier, and I asked her for her ticket—the prisoner paid for himself—I was surprised that the girl paid for herself—she paid with a sovereign—she took a single ticket, which I afterwards supplemented by a return ticket—I said it would save money if she took a return—she did not make any complaint, she simply said she would like to go back to-morrow—there was another woman with one or two children in the ladies' cabin, I think—I did not see her in the night—the prisoner could have gone into the ladies' cabin.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. It would not be unusual for a man to go into the ladies' cabin to look after a child four months old.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-82" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-82" type="surname" value="HAHN"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-82" type="given" value="JULIUS"/>JULIUS HAHN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner</hi>) (
<hi rend="italic">Examined by interpretation</hi>). I was living at the West End with my wife, who was ill, and she went into the hospital, where she died, and she left me with two children, one five months and the other five years—she asked when she was ill that I should take the children to Germany in case she should die—I then lost my work—before that I was living at 59, Greenfield Street—I was well known to the Fischers and a man named Fluntz—on 19th October I came to Fluntz and to the Fischers—I said to Fischer that I was going to Germany</p>
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<p>in a short time, and Emily Fischer asked me if she could come with me, and her father said, "Mr. Hahn would like to take you with him"—Mrs. Fischer then asked me for a pair of boots belonging to my wife, and I told Mrs. Fischer she could have them—on the 21st I came to Fischer's and brought the pair of boots—Mr. and Mrs. Fischer told me if I was going away on the Saturday I could bring the children there—on the 24th, about 8 o'clock a.m., I brought the children to Fischer's—Fischer said, "Take the children upstairs, my wife is upstairs"—I found Mrs. Fischer on the stairs—Mrs. Fischer said, "Give the children to Emily, she will put them on the bed"—I then said I was going immediately to the West End, and would return about 11 o'clock—I went there with Mr. Fidler with a cart—Mrs. Fischer said Emily could go with me, in the presence of Mr. Fischer, and he did not make any objection to that, and Mr. Fischer asked me the price of the boots I had given to his wife—I said I did not want anything, as they had taken care of the children—then Fidler went away with the cart, and I and Emily Fischer followed Fidler to Mrs. Schofield's, where I said good-bye, and after that I went to Blackwall—at Blackwall I asked Emily to give me the children, and she gave me the younger one, and the little boy began to cry, and I did not know what to do with the children—I then asked a woman on board the ship, and she said, "My dear Sir, I cannot take the children from you, I have got two children"—thereupon Emily Fischer said, "I will go with you; pay me the fare, and give me a small amount for my trouble," and I said "Most likely they will look after you," and she said "Well, I will go with you, my parents have nothing against it," and then she said "Pay me the fare," and she took the child and went upon the ship—I went to put my box on board the ship, and afterwards I went on board—she then asked me for some money to pay for the fare, and I gave her 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—she returned in about a quarter of an hour and brought me 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and said the ticket had cost 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., there and back—I did not take the 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., but told her to keep it for the present—on the way from London to Rotterdam she asked me for the fare to Bingen—I did not consent to that, and she told me that her father said that she could go with me and find her grandmother—just before we got to Rotterdam I asked her for the money, and she said she had left the money and ticket in the window—I then went to get the ticket from the window, and also the purse with the money, and wanted to give it to her, and she asked me to keep it until we went to the Rhine boat, as she wanted to go with me, and the steward then pointed out the ship by which she was to return—she then went with me to the Rhine boat, and I gave her the ticket and purse and another shilling—she told me she had no pocket—I then gave her a cloak belonging to my wife.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>. I did not say to the inspector that the girl's mother had consented to her going as far as Blackwall with me—when we got there she offered to go to Rotterdam, and I consented—I said to Inspector Moser, or before the Magistrate, "I never spoke to her mother about her going to Rotterdam."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). It was on going to bed at night in the ladies' cabin that the prisoner wanted to put his hand up my clothes—I was lying down with the baby.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner.</hi> I did not touch her with any intention.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">defended Ashby, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Blackman.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-87" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS MILLS</persName> </hi>. I live at 52, Grosvenor Street, St. Pancras, and have no occupation—at about 6.5 on the 29th October I was walking alone along Bell Alley, St. Luke's, when a man came behind and struck me in the back, and I was thrown to the ground on my face—I got up and turned round and saw Blackman, who struck me on the head with his fist—there were four others with him, and they struck me several times—my coat was unfastened, and my watch and chain, value 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., taken away—before my watch was taken Ashby struck me on the chest, and threw me down on the back of my head, which was cut—I heard Blackman speak—I was stunned—I afterwards identified Blackman when he was brought to my bedside—I recognise his voice—I afterwards picked Ashby out from amongst other men at Bow Street—before I was robbed on the night in question I had seen Ashby at his house—a young man crossed me coming from the hairdresser's, and told me he knew me, and that his name was Scottie, and I went with him to Ashby's.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I met Scottie after 12 o'clock in the day—I had seen him before, and I got into conversation with him in the street—I left him before 5 o'clock and went to my tea—he came to me after 5 and went with me to Ashby's house—he said I might come and stop at Ashby's house as he could not take me to his own house—I think Scottie introduced me to Ashby by saying "My friend," or some
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<lb/>tion, and I did not say so before the Magistrate—I went to a friend of mine, a publican in the Kingsland Road—he was not at home, and I waited until 4 o'clock in the afternoon—I had half a pint of stout and mild—Scottie was with me the whole of the time—he was a perfect stranger to me—I went into the parlour and sat by the fire—Scottie was reading a newspaper—I did not speak to him or he to me—I then left the house and went to my tea—we got to the public-house in the Kingsland Road about 2 o'clock—Scottie said he would go in to his friend Ashby and have a warm for a little while—I had my tea at Lockhart's coffee-shop in Old Street—Scottie went to his tea, and came back and said his landlord and landlady had gone to the city to take some skins, and he wanted his great coat or something, and could not get it—I left the coffee house and walked towards the City Road, and he said to me "I live down there," and would I walk a little way with</p>
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<p>him, which I did, and he then went and rapped at some one's door, and I said "Do you live there?"—he said "Yes; but if you like to wait a little while I have a friend lower down where I can go in and take a warm"—he invited me to go into the house, and I stayed 10 minutes and came out—I have lived about 16 years in London.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. I have never seen Blackman before—he was brought to my bedroom with eight others—I said to one of the others when they first came in "Have you seen me before?" and he said "No"—it was after that that I picked out Blackman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I saw Blackman before and heard him speak, and I swear he is the man.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-88" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HIGGINS</persName> </hi>. I am 12 years old, and live at 3, Bell Alley, St. Luke's—I was at the street door at the time in question, when I saw Blackman and the prosecutor about three yards off—the prosecutor was knocked down on his face; I did not see by whom—I saw Blackman on the top of the prosecutor afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I did not see Ashby there—there was a tall fair man there who struck the prosecutor on the throat.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. There were two there besides the pro
<lb/>secutor, not four or five—I had never seen Blackman before—I was taken to the station and shown a man I knew to be Blackman—I did not pick him out at the station, but at the police-court amongst about a dozen.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-89" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS MILLS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). Scottie is stout, fair, and very short.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-90" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS HIGGINS</persName> </hi>. I live at 3, Bell Alley, Commercial Road—on the 29th October about 6 p.m. I heard a noise—I opened the window of my room on the first floor and looked out, when I saw a man on the ground and four men round him—I called out "You scoundrels," or "cowards"—two of them had their hats off—when I called out, one of them went away, and when I was going downstairs the others ran away—a lad went up and assisted to pick the prosecutor up—there was a lamp but not quite close—he was bleeding from the head, and I advised him to go to the hospital—I think Blackman is one of them, but I am not positive—the man seemed to have darker hair—I was taken to the House of Detention and saw him in one of the cells, but I had to look at several before I saw any one like the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. Bell Alley is very narrow and dark where this occurred—there is a little sweetstuff shop there, but it had not a brilliant lamp.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-91" type="given" value="GEORGE EUGENE"/>GEORGE EUGENE YARROW</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, of 87, Old Street, St. Luke's—on Thursday, 29th October I saw the prosecutor at the station, and found two lacerated wounds on the head; erysipelas set in, and he was confined to his bed for a considerable time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I have known Ashby for several years as a member of a Foresters' Club to which I am surgeon—I have never known anything against his character.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant G</hi>). At 1.45 p.m. on 3rd November I was in St. Luke's with Cooper and Boultby, when I saw Blackman—I had seen him before—Cooper spoke to him and said he should take him into custody for being concerned with others in violently assaulting a gentleman last month and stealing a watch and chain value 50
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<p>like this"—I afterwards took him to the prosecutor's bedroom with five others—he was in bed and pointed out Blackman, saying "That is the man"—the prisoner said "I have never seen you before in my life"—the prosecutor said "Oh yes, you have, you are the man who struck me with both fists after I got up"—the prisoner said "I don't know anything about it, I was miles away with respectable people"—I asked him if I could go and inquire of any one, but he could not tell me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I inquired about Ashby and found he was in the employ of a sole-sewer, who gave him an excellent character—his previous employer also gave him an excellent character.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. A hat was brought to the police station by the prosecutor—it did not fit Blackman—when I took him into custody he had a hat on.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-93" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BOULTBY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant G</hi>). When Blackman was taken into custody he said "Tommy, I am innocent of this; give me a fair chance, and I will tell you who it is."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>. I know nothing against Ashby.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 136). At 12.20 on the 30th October I saw Ashby, who wanted to know why two detectives had been to his house—he said "My name is Ashby, and I live at 9, Baldwin Street, City Road"—I said a gentleman had been robbed of his watch and chain at 6 o'clock the previous evening, and had stated that at 5 o'clock he was taken to the house of a young man, which house he had since pointed out to me as No 9, Baldwin Street—he said "A gentleman came to my house with a lodger at 5 o'clock last evening; Scottie said he was his father, and asked the gentleman to have a cup of tea; he refused, and they then left together and I know nothing of any assault and robbery"—Ashby was placed with several others and identified by the prosecutor, who said "That is the man I saw in the room, I also saw him in Bell Alley"—Ashby said "I was there"—he said going to the police-court "You know when I said 'I was there'?"—I said "Yes"—he said "What I meant was, I was in the room, not in Bell Alley"—I have inquired about Ashby, and find him to be a respectable man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">On</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">intimating to the Court that he did not intend to press the charge against Ashby, a verdict of acquittal was taken in his case.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I was present at the police-court—one witness was culled by Blackman—witnesses were called for Ashby.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>. The witness called by Blackman was a young woman with whom he was keeping company, I believe.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. It was to prove that he was elsewhere.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">He then</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been convicted of felony on 24th May, 1880, at the Sessions House, Clerkenwell Green</hi>.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DARCY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> The tin box was safe on the 6th at 10 o'clock at night—I did not say at the Brentford Police-station that the last I saw of the box was at 7 o'clock—I have seen it since and identified it by a bruise, as Mr. Russell's box—there is no other mark on it—the pictures were not produced, nor the blankets—you had a key of the box in your pocket; it was locked, and Mr. Russell had the key—I went to bed at 11 o'clock on the night of the 6th—Mr. Simmons was not at home—I locked the door—on the way to the Court House from the police-station Mr. Russell told me you had a pair of his boots on, a necktie, and a collar of his—he said he could swear to the collar, as it was marked 15 1/2, and he had a shirt of the same pattern in his box; he had two collars to match the shirt—the collar was blue with a white stripe—I cannot say whether a shirt of the same pattern was found in the box: I did not see the contents of the box—I should know the collar again if I saw it—this is the box (
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<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is not the collar you had on that day.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-100" type="given" value="SARAH ELIZABETH"/>SARAH ELIZABETH WARREN</persName> </hi>. I live at 3, Salisbury Villas, next door to the prosecutor—at 6.30 on 7th November I was at my bedroom window, when I saw the prisoner taking a wheelbarrow, with a tin box and some pictures on it—he stopped in front of my window considering whether he should go up the Boston Road or the Uxbridge Road, and he went towards the Uxbridge Road to go towards Ealing—I recognise the pro
<lb/>perty from having seen it in Mrs. Simmons's front parlour—I know Mr. John Russell who was lodging with Mrs. Simmons—this box belonged to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was not dark at 6.30—I saw you come out—I heard the wheelbarrow coming under the passage, and I jumped out of bed, and stood in front of my bedroom window and opened it to see which way you went with the barrow—I did not speak to you because you had gone too far.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-101" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY PULLEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 214). On 19th November, at midday, I was in Hammersmith and saw the prisoner—when he saw me he went into the Red Cow public-house—I went in after him, and took him by the arm and told him I should take him into custody for robbing some lodgings at Hanwell—he said it was not him—we had a struggle outside, and eventually I got him to Chiswick Police-station, where I searched him and found this handkerchief on him, two keys, one of which unlocked that box, a pawn-ticket relating to property identified, and another ticket for property which another witness will identify—on the way to the station he again said it was not him, and that he knew nothing about the property—after he was remanded at Brentford he came up on the 27th of last month, and on the way there he told me where to find the pictures and workbox at a pawnbroker's opposite the police-station at Chiswick.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You did not say at the Red Cow that you were never</p>
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<p>at Hanwell, and that you knew nothing about the charge—I didn't say in the cell "If you would tell me where the keys were I would send you some coffee"—one of the keys opens the box—on the way from the court-house at Brentford to the police-station, Russell told me and Mrs. Simmons that you had a collar and tie of his and a pair of boots—I think I should Know the collar if I saw it—Russell said he wore a 14 1/2 inch collar; he did not say he knew the collar as he had a shirt of the same pattern in the box—I think this is the collar.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-102" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN RUSSELL</persName> </hi>. I am a barman, of 6, Buckingham Palace Road—about four months since I resided with Mrs. Simmons, and left this box with her—I identify two shirts which the pawnbroker has, as mine.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I put no name on the box; there was a bruise or dent in it when I left it there—I have been away from there between two and three months; the box was locked—the detective brought in the box and asked me if it was mine, and I said "Yes"—I believe the detective told me that the key in your basement fitted the box—I did not mention the number of shirts; I said several—one of them is a rowing shirt; I call it a cricketing shirt—I had coloured and woollen shirts—the cricket
<lb/>ing shirt has been found since; this is my shirt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I have worn it many times—I did not tell Pullen that I had a stick in my box with a silver ferrule, but a silver mount that came off a stick—I said I had a quantity of coloured plates, which I have seen at the Chiswick Police-station, and several of Cassell's works, and seven or eight parts of "Picturesque Europe," and a few more—I did not mention the number of ties I had; I believe there were five or six—on the way to the station I said you had a collar which I could swear to, as I had a shirt of the same pattern in the box; it was marked 14 1/2 inches; I believe this is it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. He had on a pair of boots belonging to me, and the tie he has on now I believe is mine.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-103" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN HAMMETT</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Thomson, pawnbroker, of Norland Road, Notting Hill—this duplicate (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) relates to two night shirts pawned with me on the 15th—I saw this ticket taken from the prisoner.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant T</hi>). From information I received I went to 88, St. Katherine's Road, Notting Hill, on the 19th November, where I saw Mrs. Cheeseman—I went up to the back bedroom, where I found the box produced, which I told her was stolen—it was locked, and I conveyed it to Chiswick Police-station—I then went and saw John Russell at 6, Buckingham Palace Road—I told him I had found his pro
<lb/>perty—I asked him to come on Saturday, the 28th, which he did, and I showed him the contents of the box, which he identified.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not ask Mrs. Cheeseman whether you were at home, but if a man named William Baker lived there—she said "No; but she had a young man living there named John Radfield—she was greatly surprised to think you were a thief—she did not tell me you had been to work in the Portobello Road—I found a lot of handkerchiefs on your dressing table; I did not see any initials on them—Mr. Russell told me he had a buckhorn handle with a silver ferrule on it—I have my list here of what the box contained—there are not a lot of things in the box now which did not belong to Russell—there was a hair-brush, but no comb.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-105" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH CHEESEMAN</persName> </hi>. I live at 88, St. Katherine's Road, Notting</p>
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<p>Hill, and take in lodgers—the prisoner came to lodge with me on the 7th November, and brought with him this tin box—it remained in my house until the 19th November last, when the police came.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You came in the evening about 5, I think—you left the box and went out afterwards about three-quarters of an hour—you asked Mr. Cheeseman to go to the station with you to bring the box—I called you Radfield; I did not see any initials on the handkerchiefs in your room—you said you had not been long back from America, and that you had come to stay at my house as you were going to work in the Portobello Road as a staircase maker—the first week you were at my house you always went out before I came downstairs, and never returned before night—you told me the second week you were going to work at Parson's Green—that is a long way to walk.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence said that the box taken from his bedroom was his own property, the key found in his possession was proof of it. The handkerchiefs on his dressing-table and a lot of things in his box the prose
<lb/>cutor never stated he had lost, and the shirts and things he produced were not there.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">He then</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">to having been convicted of felony at Wandsworth Police-court on the 13th April last</hi>.—
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud, and stealing a silver salver and a quantity of other articles of plate, value 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the goods of
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<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, December</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. FULTON</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MARSHALL HALL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-111" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN ADAMS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Richard Adams, and live at 3, Edward Street, Canning Town—I had a daughter named Rachel Bailey, but she went by the name of Emily; she was 19 years old, and had been a domestic servant, but latterly had been living a bad life—I last saw her alive on Sunday, 22nd November, at my house; she had dinner and tea there—I had seen the prisoner with her there on two occasions—on 20th November she brought her box to my house, but did not sleep there, and on the 23rd November I saw her dead body.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-112" type="given" value="CECILIA"/>CECILIA STILLMAN</persName> </hi>. I live at 93, Leman Street, Whitechapel—in November I was living at 1, Ettrick Street, Bromley, with my husband, an instrument maker—I had two rooms to let on the first floor, a front and back room—on Saturday, 21st November, between 4 and 5 in the afternoon, I let the back room to Rachel Bailey at 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—she gave</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. deposit, and said her husband was a cook; she was a perfect stranger—she said that she would come on Monday morning and take possession; she then left—the next day, Sunday, I was out, and did not come home till about 1 o'clock in the morning—my room is on the ground floor—when I came home my boy told me that a man and woman had gone to occupy the room—during the night I heard no disturbance—about 10 o'clock next morning I heard some one come downstairs; I could not tell which room that person came out of—he ran down quick and went to the door, but could not open it, and my boy, aged 16, opened it for him, and then he called out "Call my
<hi rend="italic">missus</hi> in two hours," and slammed the door and went away—I never saw the prisoner at all—about half-past 11 I sent my servant Annie Connor to call the woman—I heard her knocking at the door, and receiving no answer she called out to my boy Harry "I can't get any answer"—he worked in the next room—he went and opened the door with a pair of pincers, and I then heard screams of "Murder," and my boy went for a doctor, and the police came—I did not go into the room, I was afraid—when I let this room there were no marks on the wall—I was shown a dagger by the police at Arbour Street; it does not belong to me or anybody in the house.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-113" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE CONNOR</persName> </hi>. I was servant to Mrs. Stillman—on Saturday night, 21st November, Rachel Bailey came and took a furnished room at the house—on Sunday, the 22nd, she and the prisoner came together there—that was the first time I had seen them—they went upstairs, and then the woman came down into the kitchen and had some supper, and gave me a half-sovereign to get a pot of ale—the prisoner came down while she was having it; he was sitting there when she gave me the half-sovereign—I went for the beer and brought it back and gave her the 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—they both drank the beer and I had some too—they appeared then to be on friendly terms—about 10 minutes or it might have been five minutes to 11 they went up to bed—before they went I heard the young woman say to the prisoner "The gin palaces are open yet, I will go and see George"—he made some reply, but I didn't hear what it was—he then got up and went upstairs; the young woman then bid us all good night, and followed him—I sleep at home; I then went home to sleep, and I saw no more of them that night—next morning I got there about 9 o'clock—about 10 o'clock I heard the prisoner come downstairs; he tried to open the door, and the landlord's son went and opened it for him—as he went out he told us to call his
<hi rend="italic">missus</hi> in two hours' time—I went upstairs at half-past 11 and knocked at the door, but received no answer—the door is opened by a handle and two knobs; one had gone and the other was inside the room—the son went and got a pair of pincers and opened the door—I then went inside and saw the young woman lying on her face and hands on the bed, and there was a great quantity of blood all over the pillows and bed; I then called out and the son came in and ran for the doctor—the dagger I saw at Arbour Street Police-court I had never seen before—the deceased had only her chemise on, drawn up about the neck; I could not say if it was dragged up; the clothes were all up by her head, I think—you could see the lower part of her body down to her feet.</p>
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<p>10 p.m. I went into the kitchen and saw the prisoner and the deceased there; the servant fetched some ale and they both drank of it—after supper the deceased looked at the clock, and said "It is not 11 yet, the gin palace is open; I will go and see George"—the prisoner replied "All right"—she then said she was going upstairs to get her hat, and the prisoner followed her; that was about 11 o'clock—my room is on the game floor as theirs; the upstairs kitchen—during the night I heard nothing of them—next morning about 10 o'clock I saw the prisoner at the front door; I opened it for him; as he went out he said we were to wake her up in two hours' time, and I said "All right"—he was then fully dressed, and had an overcoat over his arm—about half-past 11 the servant went upstairs and knocked at the door of their room, and then called to me in my room—I then went and knocked at the door, and getting no answer I got a pair of pincers and opened it—the servant then went in and screamed, and went downstairs and told my mother something which I could not hear—I went into the room and saw the woman lying on her face on the bed in a quantity of blood, and there was blood on her left hand—her body was exposed from the legs to the feet—the furniture in the room had not been disturbed except the bed; nothing was touched till the doctor came—I have seen this dagger; I had never seen it before this matter occurred.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-115" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN INGE</persName> </hi>. I live at 3, Morris Road, Chrisp Street, Poplar—I knew Rachel Bailey—she had lived with me at different houses, where we were both in the habit of bringing men home—I believe she first made the acquaintance of the prisoner when she lived at Mrs. Underwood's—she afterwards lived at 1, Laurence Street, Rathbone Street, Canning Town—from the Friday to the Wednesday before this murder, all but Saturday night, she was living with the prisoner at 46, Athol Street, Canning Town—she left there on Saturday night—on the Wednesday he said he was going to Chelmsford—I next saw him on Saturday night, downstairs, at the Queen's Music Hall, in High Street, Poplar, with the man
<hi rend="italic">Ted</hi>—the deceased girl came from them upstairs—I believe
<hi rend="italic">Ted</hi> is a quarter-master in the Garonne—I did not see her alive again after that—I do not know where she slept on that Saturday night—I have heard the deceased woman several times say to the prisoner that she was going to see
<hi rend="italic">Ted</hi>—I could not tell you what was the prisoner's conduct to her when she said that to him—on the Sunday night, a little after 10 o'clock, I saw the man
<hi rend="italic">Ted</hi> in the gin palace, which is about five minutes' walk from Ettrick Street—on the Tuesday night, when the prisoner and the deceased woman slept together, the woman came into my room and went out again, and the prisoner came after her; he was drunk; he had a revolver in his pocket—I could not tell exactly what the deceased said to him—they went back again to their room, and I called my landlady up, and all we could quiet him with was that we would fetch a policeman, and she laid on the revolver all night—I saw the revolver; it was a very little one—the next day she brought the revolver into my room; it was loaded, and she was going to unload it—as she was going to take two out the prisoner came in and took it away from her, and went into his own room.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Since he has been home this last time I have seen him several times at the Queen's and with Emily Bailey—I had seen</p>
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<p>him with her when he has come home on previous voyages, but never had a conversation with him—I have never seen him in a fit.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-116" type="given" value="WESTON ERSKINE"/>WESTON ERSKINE WADLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, and live at 121, Bruns
<lb/>wick Road, Poplar—on Monday, 23rd November, about a quarter past 11, the witness Harry Stillman fetched me to 1, Ettrick Street—I went immediately, and got into the room about half-past 11—the deceased was lying on her face in the bed, with the lower part of her body down to a little above the knees uncovered—I examined her—she was cold, and had been dead from an hour and a half to two hours—there was a great quantity of blood in the bed, and I saw some blood on her right hand, I think—I then sent for the police, and saw them find the blade of the dagger under the pillow—the handle was found, I think, on the floor—I afterwards made a post-mortem examination—the wound in the neck was from left to right, cutting through the whole of the tissues down to the vertebrae; it was a stab first, and then the knife was drawn right across, nearly severing the head from the body—death must have been almost instantaneous. (
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner was here seized with a fit, and the proceedings were adjourned far a short time.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. After a wound of that character I should say she would be absolutely powerless, the nerves being completely separated as well as everything else.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-117" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HIGGINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 400). On Monday, 23rd November, about half-past 11, I went to 1, Ettrick Street, into the back room, first floor, and there saw the surgeon, and the woman lying dead on the bed—I searched the room, and found the handle of the dagger on the right
<lb/>hand side of the deceased's body; there were no stains on it—I then made a further search, and found stains of blood between the pillow and the pillow-case—I also found on the wall near the foot of the bed smears of blood, as if fingers had been there—I searched the woman's clothes in the room, but found no money in her pockets—she was wearing her ring.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-118" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-118" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 113). I followed the last witness to 1, Ettrick Street, and remained there till the Coroner's officer came—I then made a farther search, and found between the feather bed and mattress the sheath of the dagger; there were no marks on it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> At the last examination before the Magistrate the prisoner had an epileptic fit, and the proceedings had to be stopped for about two minutes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-119" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK DICKER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant K</hi>). On Monday, 23rd November, about half-past 6 p.m., I went to 34, Buxton Terrace, Boyd Road, Canning Town, and went into the kitchen—there was a crowd of persons there, the prisoner being one of them—I said to him, "I am a sergeant of police; I am going to take you into custody for the wilful murder of Rachel Bailey at Poplar this morning"—he said, "I was just getting myself ready to go and give myself up"—there was a kind of will on the table being written by a man, a lodger in the house; this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—the prisoner asked me to allow him to sign it—after I had read it I said, "Yes, you can sign it," and he did so in my presence—I then took him to the Poplar Police-station, where he was charged—he made no reply—I searched him, and found on him this letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) in his coat pocket, and 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in money.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Letter read:</hi> "30, Morris Road, Chrisp Street, Poplar. Dear Harry,—According to promise I write, hoping to find you in much better health</p>
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<p>than when I left home. I am very pleased to say I am enjoying the very best of health, thank God, but I have not the yellow flag up yet I wanted to get something to-day to do away with it, but Mrs. Bray advises me not to, but I can't see how I can help it. Dear Harry, I suppose you will write and let me know if you are all right, because I have not found out anything wrong with myself. I don't think I have much more to tell you at present. Remember me to Wallow, and tell him he must begin to save it all up for M. I must now conclude with fondest love from M. I have seen papers at the back, but I should like to screw you."</p>
<hi rend="italic">The will was read at follows:</hi> "I, Henry Patrick, do hereby give in trust to Mrs. Charlotte Cooper, residing at 34, Hoxton Terrace, Boyd Road, in the parish of West Ham, my chest and all clothes therein, and all my effects and whatsoever I may possess, to be divided between my sister, Agnes Patrick, and my brother, Albert Patrick. The two oil portraits I leave to my sister Agnes, and I would wish my brother Albert to pay Mrs. Charlotte Cooper 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I am indebted to her; I also wish my sister Agnes to receive what money there may be received from the Prudential Assurance Company, in which I am insured. So witness my hand this 24th day of November, 1885.—
<hi rend="smallCaps">H. PATRICK."</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-120" type="given" value="SALLY"/>SALLY BEER</persName> </hi>. I live at 30, Morris Street, Poplar—the deceased lodged with me from September to the Friday week before the murder—I know the prisoner; they were on very friendly terms, and I never saw them quarrelling—I know
<hi rend="italic">Ted,</hi> he visited her at my house about three times—she told me she was pregnant, but about three weeks after the prisoner went away she said it was not so—I did not know, except what she told me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-121" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-121" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED COOPER</persName> </hi>. I live at 34, Kensington Terrace, and am a steve
<lb/>dore—the prisoner is my wife's nephew; he is a ship's cook, and when at home he lives with me—on the Saturday night before this occurred he slept with his cousin, a man, at my house—on Sunday he had dinner with me, and I saw him as late as 7 o'clock in the evening—he did not tell me that he was not coming back or where he was going—the next day, Monday, about 6 in the evening, I went home and went into the kitchen and saw the prisoner there among seven or eight other persons—one of them in his presence said that Harry said he had killed Rachel—I knew that referred to a young woman—I then took him into my bedroom, where we two were alone, and asked him if it was true, and I understood him to say "Yes," and that he had told his aunt what to do with his things—I asked him if he had told her so in the presence of his father—he said "No," but he would do so, and called a young man downstairs named John Bastien—he said he was waiting till I came home from work to give himself up—we then went out of the bedroom into the kitchen, where the prisoner dictated that statement to John Bastien—a police sergeant came in and he was allowed to sign it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> During the last six months he has been subject to very severe epileptic fits; the earliest period that he had one was in April, I think, on his return from Montreal—the ship he was in went between London and Montreal—on his return from his last voyage his hair was cut, and he was in a very bad state of health; I helped him off the ship when she came in dock—he was then recovering from an attack of brain fever, so he stated to me—he then commenced attendance at one of the London hospitals as an out-patient—before the time of his return</p>
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<p>from his last voyage he has had fits in my presence; I can hardly count how many—he had one on the Sunday preceding the 22nd.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-122" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-122" type="given" value="LLEWELYN ARTHUR"/>LLEWELYN ARTHUR MORGAN</persName> </hi>. I am surgeon of the House of Detention—the prisoner has been confined there since 24th November, and I have seen him daily; he suffers from epileptic fits—in my opinion he is a man of sound mind and understanding.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I understand he had a fit at the police-court—he has had two since he has been in the gaol, of a somewhat similar character to the one to-day—I have no means of ascertaining whether he has suffered from brain fever at any time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-123" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-123" type="given" value="HENRY CHARLTON BASTIAN,"/>HENRY CHARLTON BASTIAN, M.D., F.R.C.P</persName> </hi>. I am one of the physi
<lb/>cians of the National Hospital for Paralysed and Epileptic Patients—I saw the prisoner for the first time yesterday, and examined him—in my opinion he is a man of sound mind and understanding; there was nothing in his manner or demeanour to lead me to the conclusion that he was insane.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He has suffered from these fits eleven months, so far as I can gather—such fits sometimes affect the mind, but that depends upon the frequency and violence of the attack—it is often hereditary—that would not necessarily increase the tendency to mental failure—brain fever is a very vague term, we do not know it in medicine; it is inflam
<lb/>mation of the membranes, or
<hi rend="italic">meningitis;</hi> if a person recovers from that he often dies from
<hi rend="italic">meningitis</hi>—if he recovers he might have fits, or might not.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.—
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<hi rend="italic">He was subsequently respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18851214-90-offence-1 t18851214-name-126"/>Thomas Cooper</persName>. They were also indicted for the manslaughter of the said person.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEITH FRITH</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">defended Davis,</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Plank.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-127" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD TILLEY</persName> </hi>. I am potman at the Clock House Tavern, Knights-bridge—on the night of 2nd December three soldiers and the two prisoners were in the bar—the soldiers were wearing medals—Davis was annoying them about the medals—he said they had no buisiness with them—they told him to mind his own business and keep his own company—Davis attempted to pull off his coat—I ordered him out of the house, and I and the barman put him out—Plank walked out—in about two minutes Davis came back without his hat and coat—he came about two feet within the door—the deceased was waiting at the door for his two comrades—Davis seized him by the chest and tried to pull him out—the barman and I pushed Davis out and pulled the deceased in—the soldiers subsequently left—they had behaved quietly and peaceably throughout.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-128" type="given" value="HARRY"/>HARRY DENTON</persName> </hi>. I am a private in the 1st Battalion Coldsteam Guards—on the night of 2nd December, about a quarter-past 11, I went into the Clock House two with other soldiers, Thomas Cooper and Samuel Lockwood—we were in uniform—Davis was there and two other men with him—I do not recognise the other two—Davis began chaffing us and saying we had not earned our medals—I said we did not want any bother with him—he said he would have it—he was put out by the potman—he afterwards came in with his hat and coat off—about five minutes afterwards I came out of the house with my two comrades—we went to the corner of Sloane</p>
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<p>Street and there we shook hands and said "Good night"—Cooper went down Sloane Street towards the barracks; I went towards Piccadilly—a second or two after I got hit under the jaw and knocked down—not a word was said—a constable came and picked me up—I dropped my stick when I was knocked down—I had not used it or done anything before I was struck—my stick was given to me and I joined Lockwood on the other side and went on down Piccadilly—I did not know what had happened to Cooper till the next morning.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEITH FRITH</hi>. I did not speak to Davis in the Clock House—he spoke to all the lot of us—we only told him that we did not want to have any bother.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-129" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL LOCKWOOD</persName> </hi>. I am a private in the 18th Battalion of Cold-stream Guards—I went with Denton and Cooper to the Clock House—about five minutes afterwards Davis came in—he took off his coat three or four minutes after he came in, and wanted to fight—the potman put him out—I saw him outside making a rush at the door—we went to the top of Sloane Street and bid each other good night—I went towards Piccadilly; Cooper went down Sloane Street—we do not belong to different barracks, but two of us were on leave all night—when I looked back I saw Denton lying on the ground—a policeman picked him up, and we went on—I saw no more of Cooper.</p>
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<persName id="t18851214-name-130" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-130" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL PARROTT</persName> </hi>. I am a butler, and live at 42, Prince's Gardens, Kensington—between 11 and 12 o'clock on the night of 2nd December I was walking alone by the Clock House—I saw some men outside; the prisoners were two of the men; there was a third—before I got up to them there was a slight scuffle—they were coming from the door of the Clock House—I heard Plank say to Davis, "Wait a minute,
<hi rend="italic">Bill,</hi> until they get away, or round the corner"—I then saw the three soldiers come out—I think Davis said something about being struck on the head with a stick—I noticed at that time a mark across his hat—the soldiers went towards Sloane Street—I saw them at the corner—the tallest soldier went down Sloane Street; one of the others went across the road towards Albert Gate; the other one, Denton, came and stood on the kerb close to me—Davis ran sideways and hit Denton down by the left side by the ear, and knocked him down—a police constable who was standing close by me picked him up—Davis was going to hit him again, but as soon as he saw him in the constable's hands he left him, and two other men (Plank was one) ran after Cooper down Sloane Street—I did not recognise the third man—I ran after them, and just before I got to them I saw Cooper lying across the pavement—I did not see Davis, Plank, and the other man there—I ran back to the top of Sloane Street and fetched a constable, and I found Cooper lying down insensible—he was taken in a cab to the hospital—I afterwards went with the constable to the Pakenham Arms; I saw Davis come out of that house, and I pointed him out to the constable—Plank was with him—Davis said, "What do you want me for? I have done nothing; I have been with these here," referring to Plank and another man, "for the last two hours; I have been with them all the evening," and Plank and the other man said, "Yes, he has been with us all the evening"—Davis was taken into custody; Plank was not taken—I went with Davis and the constable to the station—as we were going Davis said, "Oh, I know what you want</p>
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<p>me for; a soldier hit me across the head with a stick, and I gave him a clip under the ear."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEITH FRITH</hi>. I was about two or three yards away when I saw Davis run up—I did not see him strike him—Denton was across the road, standing by himself.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-131" type="surname" value="THOMAS"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-131" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS THOMAS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 537). About half-past 11 on the night of 2nd December I was on duty at the corner of Sloane Street—I saw the prisoners outside the Clock House—Davis had his coat off calling the soldiers out, and he would fight the three of them—he made a rush at the door; I stopped him, and requested him to go away—Plank then said to Davis, "If you don't pay these three I will pay you"—Davis then went away—two minutes after I was called into the Clock House, and I requested the soldiers to leave—they had been drinking; they knew what they were doing; I could not say whether they were sober or not—two more constables came up—I saw the soldiers go to the corner of Sloane Street, shake hands, and part; one went down Sloane Street, one down Piccadilly, and the third stood at the corner—I turned round and saw Denton on the ground—I picked him up and gave him his stick—Davis was in the act of striking him; I got between them—the prisoners went towards Sloane Street—Parrott ran up to me, and from what he said I went about 100 yards down Sloane Street—I there saw Cooper lying on the pavement with his feet towards the house and his head towards the kerb, and a stick lying by him—I left a constable with him, and went with Parrott in search of the men; I could not find them then—Cooper was one of the three soldiers I had seen come out of the Clock House.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> A soldier was near him when he was picked up—Davis was perfectly sober—he said, "I have been grossly insulted by these soldiers"—I requested him to go away, and he went away quietly, and did not come back again till about five minutes afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. Plank is a much smaller man than Davis.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-132" type="surname" value="STOREY"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-132" type="given" value="ADAM"/>ADAM STOREY</persName> </hi>. I am a private in the 1st Battalion Coldstream Guards—on the night of 2nd December, about 11.30, I was coming down Sloane Street from Knightsbridge towards the barracks—I saw Cooper and crossed over to him—I saw Davis strike him just behind the right ear and knock him down on the roadway—there were two other men with him, Plank was one—Cooper appeared to be stunned, he never said a word—I went to him at once—I said to Davis, "You have killed the
<hi rend="italic">chap</hi>"—Davis said nothing to that—one of them said, "Let's run away"—I tried to lay hold of Davis, but they all three went away—I shouted for police, constables came, and the soldier was taken to the hospital; he was still insensible—there was no fight or anything of the kind; the soldier had done nothing to him—when Davis struck him he was just in behind him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-133" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-133" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BARLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman BR</hi> 27). About 20 minutes past 11 on the night of 2nd December I saw three soldiers, and afterwards saw the deceased in Sloane Street insensible, with blood pouring from his ear—about 10 minutes past 12 I went with Parrott to the Pakenham, and saw the two prisoners come out—I told Davis he would have to go to the station—he said, "What for?"—I said, "You know what for"—he said, "We had a fight, and I struck the soldier under the ear"—I was</p>
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<p>with pearce at 3 o'clock next morning when Plank was taken in Exeter Court—I took Hawkes, not Plank.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-134" type="surname" value="WALSH"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-134" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WALSH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector B</hi>). I saw Cooper in Sloane Street, and had him conveyed to St. George's Hospital—he died there next morning.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEITH FRITH</hi>. I have Davis's hat here—I did not receive it until it was produced at the police-court—it is in the same condition as it was them—there is a mark on it as though it had been struck with a cane or stick.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-135" type="given" value="HARRY MARMADUKE"/>HARRY MARMADUKE PAGE</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at St. George's Hospital—on the night of 2nd December, between 11 and 12, Cooper was brought there—he was insensible and appeared to be dying; he died at 1.40 next morning; he never regained consciousness—I made a post-mortem examination—I found that the skull was fractured and the brain lacerated under the fracture; the immediate cause of death was pressure of blood on the brain—there was an external bruise behind the right ear, beneath which was the focus of the fracture that would cause the effusion of blood; it had lacerated a large vein; it might have been caused by the blow of a powerful man's fist.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. I could not form an opinion whether he was sober or not—I saw no reason to think he was not—there was a very faint smell of spirit in the stomach; I do not think that injury could be occasioned by a fall—there was another injury which I believe might have been caused by a fall—he was a thoroughly healthy person.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-137" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK CHURCH</persName> </hi>. I apprehended Plank—I said I should take him in custody for being concerned with two other men in violently assaulting and killing a man in Sloane Street last night—he said "I don't know what you mean."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The third man, Hawkes, was discharged by the Magis
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-138" type="given" value="ADAM"/>ADAM STOREY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). When Cooper was struck, Plank stood with his hands behind him, the length of the street away—he took no part in the row.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoners' Statements before the Magistrate. Davis said:</hi> "When I hit him in self-defence I never thought it was going to cause any death or any crime; you might knock a man down four or five times and never cause such a thing as that, which I only done in self-defence."
<hi rend="italic">Plank said:</hi> "I know nothing more about the matter, merely being outside the Clock House, and saw one soldier strike Davis over the head with a stick."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Five Years' Penal Servitude.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">as accessory</hi> </rs>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Fifteen Months' Hard Labour</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, December</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">To enter into recognisances to appear and receive judgment when called upon.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">applied for an order for restitution, which</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. J.P. GRAIN</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the prisoner, opposed. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">granted the order, and postponed hearing</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRAIN'S</hi>
<hi rend="italic">argument until after the writ had issued.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">VEALE</hi>
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<interp inst="t18851214-99-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-158" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW CAIN</persName> </hi>. I am a Major in the Army—on 28th November I was travelling from Dublin to Willesden, and was at Holyhead Station at 11.40 p.m.—I put a bag containing money and other articles into the carriage, and also a bundle, and sauntered about the platform—I missed them before I got into the train, and gave information to the authorities—I remained at Holyhead that night to trace them—this bag and other articles (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are mine, and this blank cheque-book and papers also, and I believe these post-cards.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>). On 29th November, about 5.40 p.m., I was in Widegate Street with another officer and saw the three prisoners walking together—Coombe was carrying this bag—I followed them into Middlesex Street, where Cooper took the bag—I said to him "What have you got in that bag?"—he said "I don't know; I am carrying it for that man," pointing to Veale—I asked him where he was going to take it—he said "Down to Cambridge Road to sell it"—I took them all to the station with assistance, and they were charged with un
<lb/>lawful possession—I opened the bag there; it contained a rug, a dressing-gown, and a copper coin—Cooper was wearing the overcoat when I took him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-160" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SAYER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>). I was with Bosher—I searched Veale at the station, and found two pocket-handkerchiefs marked M.N.G.K., this cloth cap, and these spectacles and case, knife, key, and</p>
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<p>razor—Cooper was wearing this overcoat; I found a book in the pocket of it—I found on Coombe a portable inkstand, idenfied by the Major, a cheque-book containing eight black forms, some post-cards, letters, and a paper-knife—he said that Veale gave them to him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-161" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-161" type="surname" value="GAGE"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-161" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN GAGE</persName> </hi>. I live at 22, Tufton Street, Westminster—on Sunday, 29th November, Cooper came in and bough a loaf, and in the afternoon he came and asked me if I would take care of, a parcel for him, and he would not be long—he did not come back—the parcel contained a Bible, prayer book, hymn book, Lett's Diary, a shaving brush, and other articles.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoners' Statements before the Magistrate. Cooper says:</hi> "I desire to make a statement which I have written. I desire to add to that state
<lb/>ment that on Saturday last I purchased a saw at Mr. Renshaw's, at the corner of Compton Street, Soho; I can also prove that on Saturday night last I did some work." (
<hi rend="italic">A statement made by Cooper in the House of Detention was here put in, in which he said that he put the coat on believing it to be Veale's property.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cooper in his defence stated that he did not know the things were stolen; that Veale came to his lodging and said that he was going to Australia next day, and as the shops were closed wished to sell him some things, and that what he did was through friendship. Coombe stated that he had nothing to do with the robbery.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for Cooper's Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-162" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STAINTHORPE</persName> </hi>. I Live at 118, Southampton Row, and am assistant to a grocer—Cooper was at my place on Saturday, 28th November, at 9 o'clock, repairing cutlery for me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-163" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LOVELL</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Redding, of Old Compton Street, Soho—on 28th November Cooper was at our place and bought a hand
<lb/>saw of me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cooper received a good character.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">COOPER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">COOMBE</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">NOT GUILITY</hi> </rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">VEALE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">further</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a former conviction of felony.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-99-18851214 t18851214-99-punishment-32"/>Eighteen Months' more after the expiration of a sentence of Five Years Penal Servitude passed at Cork in De
<lb/>cember, 1881, upon which he was out on a ticket of leave</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK PARKER</hi> (25)</persName>
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<persName id="t18851214-name-165" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-165" type="given" value="HORACE"/>MR. HORACE AVORY</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-166" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-166" type="given" value="LUCY COTLAND"/>LUCY COTLAND HOLLAND</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Philip Henry Holland, of Heath Rise, Hampstead; he is a great invalid—I keep a banking account of my own at Hampstead Brach of the London and South-Western Bank—the prisoner was constantly employed in the house doing odd jobs—there were no other workmen—he kept his tools in a cupboard under the kitchen stairs—when my pass-book came back from the bank if there was a fire, I tore the cheques up and put them in the fire—the waste paper was generally put by the servants in the cupboard where the prisoner kept his tools—I kept my cheque book in an unlocked desk in the drawing room—my pass-book was returned at the beginning of July, and among the cheques returned was one to my brother for 25
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<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is part of it—on 7th October I ordered the prisoner to put up a curtain bar in the drawing room, which he did, and I afterwards paid him for it—on 10th November I discovered by my pass-book that I had overdrawn, and I saw in it two cheques for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. drawn to Paterson, and I said "Why, that is Parker's writing"—I had been accustomed for four years to seeing his writing—the endorsements are his, to the best of my belief—this is a very close imitation of one of my genuine cheques—on 12th November the prisoner was given in custody, on another charge—I was called down, and he said "You know I never took the value of 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. out of your house"—I said "You have also forged my name"—I did not hear what he said—this paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) has my name and other names on it; it is Parker's writing—this is a letter which was addressed to me and thrown in the waste paper basket; on the back of it here are some memoranda of accounts.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I have had my cheque-book since 15th March, and missed two cheques on, I think, 10th November, but if they were abstracted before I do not think I should have missed them—I tear up or burn my cancelled cheques; I never leave them lying about the room—a servant left me on 14th September; I don't think she was aware I had a cheque-book—she was with me nine months; I had a very good character with her—I missed a gold chain last summer, but I found it again—a half-sovereign was taken from my purse in the pocket of a dress hanging in my bedroom—I did not miss seven gold rings, only one, and a brooch, a watch, and a locket—she did not steal quite all the jewellery in the house, and I think, not to sell, but only what suited her to wear—I saw her wearing a gold chain which I still believe was mine—she had a false key to my daughter's dressing case—I had a very good character with her, and did not prosecute her because of her family—she had no followers—she had access to every room in the house—I generally left the key of the desk tied on, and you knew that—Mr. Holland never goes out of doors—the cheque book was kept 10 or 12 feet from his chair—if he was close to the fire you would have to pass his seat to do the curtain—his back was to the desk—if any cheques were thrown down to be burnt you might have taken them—I know that since September you have been contemplating going to Australia.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not keep any transfer paper in the waste paper basket—these cheques have been taken from the end of the book; the counterfoil and all has been torn out—the servant girl could read very, little and she wrote a very scrawly hand—the signature to the cheque is nothing like her writing.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-167" type="given" value="MATILDA"/>MATILDA TENNANT</persName> </hi>. I am in Mrs. Holland's service—on the 7th October I saw the prisoner in the kitchen and in the drawing room putting up a curtain rod for about an hour—Mr. Holland was in the drawing-room that morning but he was asleep most of the time—he was asleep when I went into the room shortly after the prisoner left—he always sleeps in the morning.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I went into the room to poke the fire and you were then putting up a curtain pole across the folding-doors—you must have heard me open the door—Mr. Holland had a book in his hand—I did not notice whether you were excited or flurried.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Mr. Holland is very deaf.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-168" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DALE</persName> </hi>. I am cashier at the Hampshire branch of the London and</p>
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<p>South-Western Bank—I cashed this cheque for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. dated 9th October, and payable to G. Paterson or bearer, over the counter in gold—I have no recollection of the person—it came out of Mr. Holland's book, and the other cheque also—it is dated 9th October, but it comes next after one dated 30th October.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-169" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FLEMING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant</hi>). On 12th November I was sent for to Mrs. Holland's house, and took the prisoner on another charge—Mrs. Holland said, "I must tell you also, Parker, that you forged my name at the bank"—he said, "Do you mean to say that I have been forging your name to a cheque?"—she was going to make a reply, but I stopped her and said, "Nobody has said anything about a cheque"—the prisoner laid, "I suppose it must be a cheque"—going to the station he said, "Does Mrs. Holland say it is one or two cheques?"—I said, "Mrs. Holland said nothing about cheques at all"—I searched him at the station, and found 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver, 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze, and some memoranda, but nothing relating to this charge—he gave his address in Harrow Road—I went there, and in a cash-box found 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold, and on a table a roll of carbon paper, and in a drawer of the same table these two pieces of paper—the larger piece has two pencil lines on it corresponding with the lines on the cheque, and on the smaller piece I can see the words "Lucy C. Holland" in two places, exactly corresponding with the signature to the cheque—at the bottom of a drawer in a chest I found some pieces of paper twisted up into a little ball, containing Philip Henry Holland's name and Lucy Holland's name three times, and on the table a memorandum of expenditure or of pledgings amounting to 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and several articles of new clothing value about 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I went to the pawnbroker's, and found articles worth 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. pledged for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—"25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>." is written on this memorandum in pencil.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The clothes were not all new—there was a new Glad-stone bag.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-170" type="given" value="THOMAS WILLS"/>THOMAS WILLS COLE</persName> </hi>. I am a cashier at the Hampstead branch of the London and South-Western Bank—I know Mrs. Holland's signature—I see the words "Lucy C. Holland" more than once on this small piece of transfer paper, and I consider them an exact copy of her signature—I have one of her cheques here.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence stated that he had no idea that Mrs. Holland had a cheque-book, as the never paid a cheque to him; that he was at work 14 feet from the desk, with Mr. Holland in the room, and had no opportunity of taking a cheque; and he contended that the servant-girl was the guilty party.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-100-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-100-18851214 t18851214-100-punishment-33"/>Nine Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, December</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1885.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-172" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT HURST</persName> </hi>. I am a compositor, and keep a little tobacconist's and stationer's shop at 40, North Street, Grove Road, St. John's Wood—on 1st November a boy came in for a pennyworth of tobacco, and gave me this florin, which I put in my pocket, giving him change—I had no other florin there—Mrs. Chambers afterwards spoke to me, and I found it was</p>
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<p>bad, and put it on one side in a glass—my wife gave it to the police next day.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-173" type="given" value="ERNEST"/>ERNEST CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>. I am 10 years old—on Sunday, 1st November, about 4.30, I saw the prisoner at the corner of North Street—he asked me to fetch him a pennyworth of tobacco from Mr. Hurst's, and gave me a florin—I could see the shop from where I was standing—I went with the coin he gave me and got the tobacco—Mr. Hurst gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and I gave it and the tobacco to the prisoner at the corner of North Street—he gave me a penny.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-174" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>. I live at 139, Carlisle Street, Maida Hill—the last witness is my son—on the evening of 1st November I saw the prisoner in Richmond Street a little after 5 o'clock—I said to him, "Are you aware that you have given my little boy a bad two-shilling piece?"—he said he did not know it was bad—I told him it was, and he had better come back to the shop where he had sent my little boy to change it—he said he would go back to the shop and pay the change back again.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-175" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE HURST</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Robert Hurst—on the morning of 2nd November I took a counterfeit florin out of the glass and gave it to the constable—there was no other florin there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-176" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BLATCHFORD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman S</hi> 209). On 2nd November I went to the shop, and Mrs. Hurst gave me a florin out of a glass—I gave it to Inspector Leonard, who marked it in my presence.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-177" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-177" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-177" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I keep a chandler's shop at 82, Salisbury Street, Marylebone—on 1st November, about 3.30, a boy came in for a penny
<lb/>worth of tobacco, and gave me a florin, which I broke in the tester—I went out with him, saw the prisoner, and said "Did you send this coin with the boy?"—he said "Yes"—I showed him the pieces, and asked him if he knew it was bad—he said, "No, I did not Know it was bad, if I had known so I should not have sent it"—I said, "Have you any more?"—he said, "No, I have not"—I said, "Look in your pocket to see if you have got any more"—he fetched out a handful of silver—I examined it, but could not find one bad one amongst it—I dare say there were 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., florins, half-crowns, a shilling, and two or three six-pences, no coppers—I gave him back the pieces and said, "Take them back to where you had them from"—he went off at once as if going to do so—as far as I know the prisoner is a hard-working man with a family—his father has been in one situation 42 years, and they are willing to do a job when they get it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-178" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-178" type="surname" value="MASON"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-178" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK MASON</persName> </hi>. I am an errand boy, and live at 43, Richmond Street, Marylebone—on 1st November the prisoner spoke to me in Rich
<lb/>mond Street, about 20 minutes past 4, and said "Will you go and get me a pennyworth of tobacco?"—I said "Yes"—he said "Go down to Mr. Briggs's shop in the Edgware Road"—he gave me a florin—I went there, gave Mr. Briggs the florin, and got the change and the tobacco—I gave them to the prisoner, who was standing where I had left him—he gave me a penny—soon after I heard him call "Here" to Chambers.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-179" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LEONARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant</hi>). I saw the prisoner at Pad
<lb/>dington Police-station on 30th November, and said to him "You will be charged with uttering a counterfeit coin about a month ago"—he said "Yes, I own I did, I only passed two"—at the station, when Chambers had identified him, he said "I only passed two; I sent this little boy with one," pointing to Chambers, "and another boy with the other; but</p>
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<p>that man with me had the benefit of it. I had been for a walk round the country in the day, and they were given to me by another man; that is the truth"—I received this coin from Blatchford, and marked it in his presence.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-180" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This coin is bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence stated that he had had a little extra beer, that a man asked him to fetch some tobacco, and that he had no idea the money was bad.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-101-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. †—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-101-18851214 t18851214-101-punishment-34"/>Fifteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18851214-102-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>Unlawfully uttering a medal re
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<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> for obtaining goods and 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. by false pretences from
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18851214-102-offence-1 t18851214-name-182"/>Charles Brown</persName>, with intent to defraud</rs>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-183" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am a farm labourer, of Kingston Lane, Hillenden—on 20th November I was at the White Bear, Hounslow, about 5.30 p.m., and I had a horse and cart with 10 trusses of hay with me, the property of Mr. Freeman, my master—I had some conversation with a man named Woodley, and then the prisoner asked me "How much do you want for your hay?"—I said 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he offered me 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I sold it to him at that—I had not known him before—he sent his man out from the beerhouse, and helped to unload it from my cart to his—after it was loaded on his cart he came back to the beershop and said "Here is a sovereign, give me the change"—I gave him 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and he went into the White Bear—Woodley came and spoke to me, and I looked at the coin, which I had put in my pocket, and found it was not a sovereign—I went into the beershop and said to the prisoner "You gave me this here piece for a sovereign," showing it to him—he made a bit of a jeer and said he did not give it to me, and laughed—I said "I want my hay back, and also my money"—he said nothing—I went to look after my hay; it was gone, and his man and horse and cart with it—I asked the prisoner his name and address—he said "I shan't tell you"—I said "I shall have you locked up"—he said "Have me locked up"—I gave him in custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I asked the landlord to change the coin in your presence—he said "No," and then I said to you "You scamp, you gave me this"—I did not ask you for change—you did not say you gave me a good sovereign—you never offered me a good one—you said "If you send for a policeman you can have me locked up"—you said you would stop till I came back with a policeman, and you were there when I brought one back.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I gave the coin to the constable five or ten minutes after I received the coin—the horse and cart were gone.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-184" type="surname" value="WOODLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-184" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WOODLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a hay dealer—on 20th November I was at this public-house and saw Brown with the hay in his cart—I asked the prisoner if he would buy the
<hi rend="italic">chap's</hi> hay—he said "Yes, if I can buy at a price"—Brown said at first there were twelve trusses, and asked a guinea, then he remembered he had sold two, and there were only ten, and he asked 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it—the prisoner bid 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and they split the difference and made it 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and a pot of ale—the prisoner pulled a coin out from his pocket, I could see it was not a sovereign—he said "Will that do?"—I said "No, it is a bad one, the man is too
<hi rend="italic">fly</hi> for that"—the prisoner then went outside to pay Brown—Brown afterwards came</p>
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<p>inside and pulled out some coins and said "I have not enough," and then he said to the landlord" Change this for me, governor"—the land
<lb/>lord said "No, I should think not, a thing like that"—Brown turned to the prisoner and said "You scamp, you have given me this, I will have my hay and my money"—the prisoner said "No, I gave you a good one."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was the instigator of your buying the hay—I know you well and have had several sovereigns from you—I never knew anything wrong about you—I did not have the coin you showed me in my hand—I could not swear to it, it was the colour of a sovereign and resembling a sovereign.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I have known the prisoner all my life; he is a hay dealer—I never knew him in any bother before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-185" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-185" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-185" type="surname" value="WORT"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-185" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WORT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 431). I was in London Road, Hounslow, about 6.30 p.m., Brown spoke to me and I went with him to the White Bear—the prisoner must have followed me in—I had the medal in my hand, Brown gave it me—I said "What do you know about this medal?"—he said "I bought some hay of that man and gave him a good sovereign, not that thing"—Brown said "You did give it to me"—the prisoner said "I did not, I gave you a good one"—I said to Brown "Have you a good sovereign in your pocket"—Brown said "Yes," and produced one loose with other money, chiefly silver, from his trousers pocket—I took the prisoner to the station; he was searched, and on him was found 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in gold and 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. silver, all good.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Brown was a little excited.</p>
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<persName id="t18851214-name-186" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-186" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-186" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18851214-name-186" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examimed by the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi> ). I never got my hay back—I took out a load of hay and sold nine trusses about 12 o'clock; then I sold other trusses at different places, and had ten left when I got to the White Bear—I got the good sovereign I had in the middle of the day for the nine trusses.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-187" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a Hanoverian medal, originally struck as a card counter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I am quite certain I gave the man a sovereign, and he put it in his pocket with his other money. I never had no bad coin.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-103-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin</rs>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-189" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-189" type="given" value="DIANA"/>DIANA SMITH</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a beerhouse at 56, Euston Street, just by Euston Station—on 3rd December the prisoner came in about ten minutes to 4 for a glass of stout, price 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and gave me this half-crown—I put it in the till where there were no other half-crowns, and gate her 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—my husband afterwards showed me the half-crown, it was bad—on the following Monday, the 7th I think, the prisoner came in again for a glass of stout; I called my husband to serve her as soon as she came in—I saw her give him this half-crown, which he afterwards gave to the policeman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> We said nothing to you about having been there before till the policeman came—you then said you had not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-190" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-190" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY SMITH</persName> </hi>. I keep a beer-house at 56, Euston Street—on Thursday at 3.45 the prisoner came in and was served by my wife, and paid with this half-crown, which my wife put in the till—about 10 minutes</p>
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<p>after the prisoner had gone—I examined the till and found the half-crown was bad—the only silver there was two sixpences—on the 7th when the prisoner came my wife called me from the next room into the bar—the prisoner called for rum first, but we have no spirit licence, and she had a glass of stout—I took the half-crown she tendered and cracked it in the tester and gave her in custody with the half-crown tendered on the 7th—the other was locked up in a cupboard and afterwards given to the police—I knew her again directly I saw her.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-191" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD JONES</persName> </hi>. I live at 58, Euston Street, the next house to Mr. Smith's—on the 3rd December, Thursday, I was at the door and saw the prisoner peeping in at the entrance doors of the beerhouse, and then she went in—on the Monday Smith called me to stop at the door while he went for a policeman—the prisoner was then inside.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was about 4 o'clock on Thursday—I knew you again directly on the Monday.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman SR</hi> 39). I was called to take the prisoner about 5.15 p.m.—I said "You are charged with uttering two counterfeit half-crowns"—she said "You have made a mistake, I have never been in the house before"—I received these coins from Mr. Smith—the prisoner had a purse in her hand which contained 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You gave the address 34, Lower George Street, Pimlico Road—you had not lived there for seven weeks.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-193" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in her statement before the Magistrate and in her defence denied passing the half-crown on the Thursday, and stated that the wot visiting her mother at St. Giles's workhouse at the time.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-103-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18851214-name-195" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18851214-name-195" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-195" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA WEBB</persName> </hi>. I manage the Milford Arms public-house, Milford Lane, Strand—on 15th November the prisoner came in at 9.20 for half a pint of stout-and-mild, price 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and gave me a shilling—I gave him change, of which a sixpence was rather smooth, and he asked me to change it; I did so—I noticed the shilling he gave me, and said nothing, but sent for a constable, who searched him in a compartment where no one else was—after he was taken away I saw a purse in that compartment, and found in it these 10 shillings wrapped separately in paper—three days before the prisoner had come in holding a handkerchief to his face as if he had the toothache—he stayed a long time—after he had gone I gave a gentleman a bad shilling in change—I found four in the till that day—we had had a great number of people that day—I gave the shilling I took on the 15th to the police, and the 10 shillings in the purse I brought to the station—when the policeman came I told the prisoner about it; he said he did not know it was bad—three persons had been in before trying to pass a bad shilling.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-196" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE REECE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman ER</hi> 9). On 15th November I was called to the Milford Arms—the last witness showed me this bad shilling and said, "The prisoner just gave it me in payment for some beer"—the prisoner said, "I don't know what you mean"—I forced him into the inner compartment and searched him—he was crying or pretending to cry and</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze loose in his trousers pocket, a good half-crown, two shillings, and three sixpences and a threepenny piece good—I took him to the station, and after a few minutes the last witness brought this purse containing 10 counterfeit shillings, and stated in the prisoner's presence she found them behind the door in the compartment where I had searched him, within one and a half yards—he said, "I don't know anything about that purse"—he could have put it behind the door as we entered—I had to force him through the door.</p>
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<interp inst="t18851214-name-197" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This shilling is bad, and from the same mould as one of these 10 counterfeit shillings.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The three men who came in were in the public compartment, not the one where the prisoner was searched—they ran out directly I saw the coin they tendered was bad.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—</rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BLACK</hi