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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NOTTAGE, MAYOR. SECOND SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that thy have been more than once in custody—a dagger</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDIESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, December</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK MANSELL</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18841215-86-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/> for unlawfully omitting to account for the receipt of certain sums received on account of the ratepayers of the parish of
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<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t18841215-86-offence-1 t18841215-geo-1"/>Fulham</placeName>.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. WILDEY WRIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FOOKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-2" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MACEY</persName> </hi>. I am a ratepayer of the parish of Hammersmith—cm 23rd August I sent a cheque for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. addressed to the prisoner at his residence, 3, Park Villas, Ravenscourt Park, and got back this receipt signed "F. Mansell."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> In the cheque I sent I included a Mr. Hetherington's account as well as my own—the prisoner came to me about saven days afterwards, on 1st September, and personally gave me the receipt.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-3" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LADD</persName> </hi>. I am a ratepayer of Hammersmith—on 25th August I saw the prisoner at his own house, 3 park vilas, and paid him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and he gave me this offical receipt.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-4" type="given" value="PHILIP JOHN"/>PHILIP JOHN HUBBARD</persName> </hi>. I am a ratepayer of hammersmith—a day or two before 21st September I went to the prisoner's house, 3, Park Villas, and left 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. there—this receipt was sent to me subsequently.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had a summons—aday was fixed for payment and it was paid.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-5" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES SAUNDERS</persName> </hi>. I live at Andover Road. Hammersmith, and am a house agent—when there were defaulters in collecting the poor rates the prisoner was in the habit of employing me to collect them—for that purpose he entrusted me with the official receipts from the receipt book, and I proceeded to get in the moneys—this is a memorandum book kept by me—I should have the whole of the defaulter's receipts given to me—I got 81 receipts mentioned by numbers in this book—I collected up to the amount of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. paid by 31 ratepayers, and I gave the prisoner a cheque for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this is my cheque on my bankers to Mansell's order; it is endorsed by him—it has come back, and I have been charged with it—I hen proceeded, and got 34 further sums amounting to 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 11th September, and I gave the prisoner a cheque for 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that cheque was</p>
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<p>endorsed by him, and has been paid—after that 16 ratepayers paid up 26
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. by 23rd September—I settled up with the prisoner, and gave him a cheque for the amount, which he endorsed—it came back to me and was paid.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The defendant had a copy of this book—I was employed by the defendant and another agent—I received 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. com
<lb/>mission—I did not deduct that from the amount I received from the ratepayers—there was an arrangement entered into by the prisoner and the other collector by which I received 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from the poor rate and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from the general rate—I collected from the defaulters—I pay over the exact amount I collect—I know the prisoner's father—I saw him on 30th September—I did not advise him to remove the goods from the prisoner's house, he was already removing them when I was there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner collected the poor rate only—he had a duplicate of this book with the numbers and names of the defaulters—I had separate receipts for the poor rate and general rate—I always paid theprisoner the exact amount I received.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-6" type="given" value="WILLIAM POWELL"/>WILLIAM POWELL COCKBURN</persName> </hi>. I am Vestry Clerk of Hammersmith, and reside at Hounslow—after 1882 the prisoner was employed as collector of the poor rate in No. 3 district—the writ made in May was put into his hands for collection in that district—the receipt-book is in three parts, the demand note, the official receipt, and the counterfoil—they are all numbered—the ratepayer's number is a different one—it was the prisoner's duty to pay in to the overseers' banking account the moneys he received from time to time—he went on collecting the rate of May, 1884, down to the end of August—the numbers in the receipt-book were then checked, and I certified as to their correctness—in September I find entries of the amounts collected by the prisoner, in his handwriting—the last entry of a receipt is on September 11th—there is no entry of any sum received by him after that—I find entries by him of paying in 103
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 5th September, and 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 11th September, and 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on 15th September—that was the last payment in by him—the number of the ratepayers and the amounts due are eet out—there is no entry of any one of the 81 ratepayers which make up the amount that Mr. Saunders paid over to the prisoner—there is no entry of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mr. Macey, 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mr. Hubbard, or 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from Mr. Ladd—these are the official receipts for those amounts signed by the prisoner—the May collection would close at 4 o'clock on Monday, 29th September—I had seen the prisoner two or three days before—I did not know that he was going away—in the ordinary course he would have been there on the 29th when the rode was closed—he would pay the money into the bank to close the rate—I had no knowledge that he had used Mr. Saunders's two cheques of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in order to pay the amounts he had entered in the book, or that he had paid the 26
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to his own account.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> As far as I know he has borne an honourable character up to this time—I have personally given him instructions as to his duties and as to his paying in moneys—I was not aware that he kept a private account at the same bank as the parish account was kept, until after 29th September—I may have had such a cheque, but I do not remember it—I checked the accounts of the parish with the bank every month—I had no means of knowing whether the amounts were paid by cheque</p>
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<p>or cash—the collector has to use his own discretion about taking cheques from ratepayers—if he does take a cheque it should be paid in direct to the overseers' account—in balancing the accounts a collector may have a small amount left in his hands; if so he should pay it in immediately afterwards—the parish had a guarantee with the prisoner to the amouut of 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he was paid a poundage of 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the pound; that was paid quarterly—his poundage due in December would be paid, I should think, before 27th January, but I do not know—the prisoner would have to collect from about 3,000 ratepayers—in the last quarter, from June to Michaelmas, the sum he paid in to the overseers' account was 2,928
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—his poundage would amount to about 66
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for preparing jury lists—he assisted Mr. Otterage, another collector, for a short time, about a fortnight or three weeks—on 29th September the prisoner's father came to me and asked if it was not paying-in day—he did not ask if anything was wanting and offer to pay the money—I told him I could not tell without seeing the books, and I suggested that he should go and get me the books, and I would examine mem and let him know what amount the prisoner was short—I think he gave me the books; he gave me everything I asked for—he did not sav, "There will be no difficulty about the money; it can be paid in gold, if you like, at any moment"—the account was very clear, not at all complicated.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I include in the 2,900
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. that he paid in, the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from Mr. Saunders's cheques—the prisoner's father said he did not know where his son was—when I had the books I made out from the counterfoils an account of the missing official receipts, of which no trace was found in the books—the total amount of the missing receipts was 238
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—when I said there would be no pro'secution I assumed that the money would be paid—about 7,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 8,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would pass through the prisoner's hands annually.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-7" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK LEE</persName> </hi>. I am chief clerk at the Hammersmith branch of the London and County Bank, Limited—I produce a copy from the ledger of the account of the overseers with that bank from 25th August to 4th November; it bears the signature of the manager—the ledger is one of the books kept by the bank—the collectors pay in money in their own names to the account of the overseers—on 5th September there is an entry of Mansell, 103
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I also produce the paying-in slip of that amount on that day; it corresponds with the entry in the ledger—there is an amount of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on this credit slip—I am able to say that that was Saunders's cheque—on 11th September 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is certified; the paying-in slip in the prisoner's writing shows that to be composed of 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in cash and 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by Saunders's cheque—on 15th September there is 7 guineas in the ledger account—on the 29th 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was paid in in the name of Mansell—those are the only payments in the ledger account to the overseers in September—I also produce under the hand of the manager a copy from the ledger of Manaell's account with the same bank—I find there a credit of 26
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 23rd September—this is the paying in slip—by the waste book I find that 26
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was Saunders's cheque—on 26th September the prisoner drew out 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; that left 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. over-drawn.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner had a private account at our bank erer since he was appointed collector—I do not think he has ever paid in to</p>
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<p>his private account cheques drawn on the parish account; it may have been so on one or two occasions, I don't know.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> His account began on 1st April—it amounted to about 340
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in all in six months.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-8" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MUSSERIN</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the office of the Vestry of Ham
<lb/>mersmith—on 29th September I paid in 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to the account of the overseers; it was money brought in in Mansel's collection, and I gaye Mansell's name for it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector P</hi>). On 1st October I went to 3, Pari Villas, tlavenscourt Park—the house was unoccupied—I had a warrant next morning to take the prisoner into custody—I endeavoured to find him—I succeeded in finding him on Tuesday, 7th October, at Debenham, in Suffolk—I told him I held a warrant for his arrest for embezzling poor-rates of the parish of Hammersmith—on the way to the lock-up he said, "I have lived with the money, we are not paid until after the accounts are passed; I was foolish to leave Hammersmith when I did, as I might have settled matters all right if I had stopped"—at the station the warrant was read to him, and he took it in his hand to read it for himself.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-10" type="given" value="THOMAS APLIN"/>THOMAS APLIN MARSH</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to the Guardians of the Fulham Union—I produce a resolution of the Guardians of the Fulham Union of 26th October, 1882—I have tie minutes of the Board, by which the prisoner was appointed collector of poor-rates—I also produce the letter of 15th Novemoer, 1882, from the Local Government Board, sanctioning the appointment.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There was a bond from the Guarantee Society—that was under the orders of the Poor Law Board.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received an excellent character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury, in which the pro
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-86-18841215 t18841215-86-punishment-1"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">a soldier</hi>) (23)
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<interp inst="t18841215-87-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to stealing six sets of gold aiguilletes value 22
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the property of the
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi> to stealing a knife of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18841215-87-offence-2 t18841215-name-13"/>Edward Tipps</persName>.</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-87-18841215 t18841215-87-punishment-2"/>Fifteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, December</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-88-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to stealing a post-letter containing 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 24 postage-stamps, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18841215-88-offence-1 t18841215-name-15"/> H.M. Postmaster General</persName>.—</rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-22" type="given" value="ALICE"/>ALICE WATSON</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Prince of Orange public-house,</p>
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<p>Artillery Bow, Westminster—on 1st December Dargan came ia and called for some rum hot, which came to 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and tendered a half-crown—I placed it in the till and gave him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—there was no other half-crown in the till at the time—he called a second time for something but I am not quite sure what it was—he tendered a half-crown—I placed that in the till with the other and gave him the change—Last was there at that time; I did not notice whether they came in together—Dargan treated Last to something after Last had been in there some time—he paid for that with bronze—I did not serve him with that—Dargan then called for a twopenny cigar—he tendered me a half-crown—I gave him the change—I had that half-crown in my hand when Mrs. dearie cam and spoke to me, and I took the money from the till and found these three half-crowns (
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-23" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FORD</persName> </hi>. I live at 5, Broadway, Westminsterr and am a licensed messenger—on 1st December I was in the Prince of Orange public-house between 7 and 8 p.m.—the two prisoners came in together, and I saw them talking together—Dargan was intoxicated, but I dare say he knew what he was about—Dargan called for half a quartern of rum and put down a piece oi money—the barmaid gave him change, and he took it up, and soon afterwards he called for some more—Laet ordered two-pennyworth of ginger brandy and paid for it—I saw Last slip something into Dargan's hands—his hands were down by his side, his pockets—I then went out of the bar to see if I could see a policeman—Dargan put down the second half-crown immediately after Last had slipped some
<lb/>thing into his hand—I saw it was bad as it laid on the counter—whet I came in I saw Dargan put down a third one, and Last said, "Come on, we had better go," and in consequence of this I went and Spoke to Mrs. Bearle—I saw the barmaid take these three coins (
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-24" type="given" value="SUSAN"/>SUSAN SEARLE</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, and manage the Prince of Orange public-house—on 1st December I was serving in one of the compartments of the bar—Ford made a communication to me, and I spoke to Miss Watson, who handed me a bad half-crown—I asked her what else she had taken, and she gave me these two others from the till, whiek I found were bad also—I then rang the bell for the potman to fetch a policeman, and gave the prisoners in charge with the coins—Dargan scuffled in the bar, he did not want to go—Last sat on a table quietly.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 75). I was called to the Prinee of Oratge on the evening of 1st December, and I went into the middle compartment—I left another constable named Wilcocks at the door—Mrs. Searle said, pointing to Dargan, "I give this man in charge for passing these three bad half-crowns"—I said, "You hear what the lady says"—Dargaa made no reply, but Last shouted over his shoulder, "They are all good ones"—I took Dargan, and Wilcocks took last—these are the three half-crowns, I marked them—when the charge was read over Dargan said to Last, "This is all through you, you" b----and struck him in the face—Dargan was the worse for liquor—Last was sober—he could walk to the station—I found on Dargan seven good shillings, two six—</p>
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<p>pences, and 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. bronze, all good, and a cigar—Last gave a comet address.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Last.</hi> Mrs. Searle said, "I give this man into custody," pointing to Dargan, not "these men."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 118). I took Last at the Prince of Orange—I told him the charge—he said on going to the station, "I know nothing of the other man whatever, I never saw him before to-night"—I searched him at the station, and found seven florins and 11 shilling pieces, a sixpence, and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Last.</hi> I took a third man at first from the descrip
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-27" type="given" value="ALICE"/>ALICE WATSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I gave Dargan 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. twice in change, and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. the third time—I do not know whether they were shillings of florins.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-28" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These three half-crowns are bad, and from different moulds.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Last in his defence stated that he went into the Prince of Orange, and Dargm afterwards came in and asked him to have a drink, and then Mrs. Searle gave him in custody.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">received an excellent character.—
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<interp inst="t18841215-94-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-30" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DAVIDSON</persName> </hi>. I am a corn dealer and baker, of 282, Gray's Inn Road—on the 26th November I saw the prisoner in my shop about 4 or 5 o'clock, he purchased 1 lb. of bread, price 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and gave me a shilling—I gave him 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change and put the coin into the till—I had some other money there, but this was a singular-looking shilling, and I tried it before I putit into the till—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produoed</hi>)—on November 27th the prisoner came again for 1 lb. of bread and tendered another shilling—I gave him the change—I tested it, but it would not bend, and laid it on the top of the till" on 3rd December the prisoner came again for 1lb. of bread and tendered this shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it was the same looking shilling as the other two I had taken and I did not give him the change—I went round the counter and said I would go into the next shop and get change, and asked him to go in with me; it is a jeweller's shop, he went in with me—I took the coin with me—I said "Is this a good shilling"—he said "It is not a shilling at all"—I said "Will you detain this man while I get a policeman?"—the prisoner muttered something which I could not hear—I gave him in custody.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-31" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROBINSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective G.</hi>) On 3rd December I was called to 280, Gray's Inn Road, a jeweller's shop, next door to Mr. Davidson's, who said in the prisoner's presence, "I shall charge this man with passing this bad shilling on me to-day, he passed two on me last week"—the prisoner muttered something—I told him the charge—he said "A cahs man gave it to me for minding his horse"—I said "Can you describe the man?"—he said "No"—I said "Where do you work?"—he said "B is so many years since I did any I forget where it was"—I found this knife in his pocket with copper filings on the blade—these are the coins, one is</p>
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<p>George IV. and one Victoria—he said that he could not account for the copper, he found the knife up the road—the woman side of this coin has been scraped out with a knife.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-32" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins were three farthings, two of the Queen and one of George IV., they have been flattened out to the size of shillings and then silvered over—I do not find any appearance of copper on this knife, it would come off readily.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I earned the shilling on the road and went to get some bread. I did not know it was bad.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a conviction of a like offence on 25th February, 1884, in the name of
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-33" type="given" value="JOHN"/>John Day</persName>.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-34" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BOLTON</persName> </hi>. I produce a certificate. (
<hi rend="italic">This certified the conviction of John Day at this Court on the 25th February, 1884, of unlawfully uttering counter
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-35" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I also know the prisoner well—the coins were farthings also in that case.</p>
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<persName id="t18841215-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-36" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TARRELL</persName> </hi>. I am Sessions warder at Coldbath Fields, the prisoner was in my care there for six months, I saw him every morning and swear he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-94-18841215 t18841215-94-punishment-9"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE GREEN</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18841215-95-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-38" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-38" type="surname" value="STOCKTON"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-38" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STOCKTON</persName> </hi>. My father keeps the Bricklayers' Arms, Colling
<lb/>wood Street, Bethnal Green—on the 21st November, about 9.30 p.m., I was in the bar, and the prisoner came in with another man who put down a bad florin and called for a pint of four ale—I took the money and showed it to Mr. Isaacs, who said it was bad—I called out to my father and they then ran out together—I did not follow them—the prisoner was given in charge with the florin.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-39" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-39" type="surname" value="ISAACS"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-39" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY ISAACS</persName> </hi>. I live at 18, St. George's Road, Stamford Hill, and am a carpenter—on 21st November I was in the Bricklayers' Arms—I saw the prisoner and another man there—the other man called for a pint of ale—he put down a florin—Stockton showed it to me—I told him it was bad—he called for his father and they both then ran out together—I went out after them, the prisoner was starting to run when I caught him—I brought him back to the house, and Mr. Stockton, who was outside, gave him in custody—young Searle tried the coin the prisoner's presence before he called out for his father.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-40" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-40" type="surname" value="STOCKTON"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-40" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STOCKTON</persName> </hi>. I keep the Bricklayers Arms—on 21st November my son called me into the bar, and I went out and saw two or three persons running out of the house—Isaacs brought the prisoner back, and I said "I shall give you in charge for tendering a bad two-shilling piece"—he said "You are mistaken, it is not me"—he was given in custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-41" type="surname" value="WOOLCOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-41" type="given" value="BENNETT"/>BENNETT WOOLCOCK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 315). I was called to the Brick-layers' Arms, I saw the prisoner there, Mr. Searle said "I give this man into custody for tendering this bad florin," he said "I know nothing about it"—I searched him at the station and found eight shillings, three sixpences and 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze in his right trousers pocket, and in his left trousers pocket this bad shilling wrapped up in this paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I also received this bad florin from young Stockton.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-42" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This florin and shilling are bad.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence stated that he was arrested "as he used the Bricklayers' Arms, but that he had never been inside that day, and did not know that he had a bad coin in his possession.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-95-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-95-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18841215-95-punishment-10" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-95-18841215 t18841215-95-punishment-10"/>Nine Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, December</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALEXANDER GEORGE BRANSGROVE</hi> (21)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18841215-96-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-96-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Forging and uttering an order for 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-44" type="given" value="RICHARD JAMES"/>RICHARD JAMES STEELE</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer at Han well—on Wednesday, 19th November, about 11.15, I signed twelve cheques in blank in my cheque book, there are three cheques on a page, that was my usual course for the purpose of my business, I crossed them and put "Co." on them like these two cheques (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>); that is my signature at the bottom, and these are two of the cheques I signed on that day, they come from my cheque book—on 21st November, about half-past 9, I went to my office, and there saw my clerk, Hunt—he called my attention to six counterfoils in the cheque book; the bodies of the cheques were gone; Hunt made a communication to me, and I sent him immediately with the numbers to the London and County Bank, with instructions to stop all these cheques which had been abstracted—about 4 the same afternoon Mr. Keats, a tradesman at Brentford, came to my office with the manager of Hull, Smith, and Co., and produced this cheque crossed Hull, Smith, and do., Bankers, Brentford, for 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., made payable to Mr. C. Glenie—they notified from the bank that they had stopped a cheque, which was the second one, in favour of Wilson, one of the cheques lost out of the book and signed by me—I know nothing of the prisoner—I gave no one authority to fill up these cheques in favour of Glenie or Wilson—I know a man named Glenie, I have dealt with him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. I am an agricultural valuer and auctioneer—I have a temporary office at Southall, which I use on market days—I kept my cheque book there in a desk, I had no key to that desk—I signed these twelve cheques about 11.15, I then went out into the market—I left no one behind me, I did not lock the outer door of my office nor the inner one—I went out leaving the office perfectly empty, with the signed cheques in the desk—I signed twelve cheques—I heard my clerk, Hunt, say he had paid ten away, two are said to have been cashed by the prisoner, that makes the twelve—people did not come to my office and write on this desk; they had no right in that portion of the office where this desk was; there was a flat table for our customers to write on, there was a door with a lid between the two desks, which you lift up to go through—I find I must have signed more than twelve cheques on this day, it was my habit to sign twelve, I don't know the numbers of any of the cheques I signed—Hunt gave me the first intimation about this larceny on Friday morning, 21st; he lives over my office at Southall, about a mile and a quarter from my house—on the 20th I was at 30, Wellington Street, Strand, till 3 in the afternoon—there was nothing to prevent Hunt coming to my house on the 20th and telling me, he did not come—Hnirt did not show me a photograph—this temporary office has been open 15 yean, but I only used it occasionally—I left the office about 2 in the afternoon—</p>
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<p>I did not get a written notice from the solicitor for the defence at Brentford, asking leave to inspect my cheque book—No. 26050 was the fast cheque that was stolen—the counterfoil of 26049 is my clerk's handwriting.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> No. 26049, which is a cheque preceding 26050, was made out properly in the name of Mr. Charles Glenie—the forgery was also made out in the name of Glenie—any person going to the book could have seen the name of Glenie there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-45" type="surname" value="HUNT"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-45" type="given" value="HERBERT PEARMAN"/>HERBERT PEARMAN HUNT</persName> </hi>. I reside at Southall, and am a clerk in the service of the prosecutor—it was my duty, when he had signed his cheques ready to be given out, to fill in the body of the cheque with the names of the persons to whom the cheques are payable—the body of this cheque, "Pay Mr. Charles Glenie 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.," is not in my handwriting; nor this one, "Pay Mr. James Wilson 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—there was a sale on the 19th, and on that day the cheque book containing these cheques would be in the office—on the 20th I discovered that six cheques were missing from my employer's cheque book—these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are two of the six, and on the 21st I mentioned the matter to my master—I called his attention to the blank counterfoils—it is the custom before tearing out the cheque to fill up the counterfoil—I know the prisoner, he has frequently bean at Mr. Steele's office when I have been there, and has had an opportunity of seeing where the cheque book was kept—he has seen me take the book from the desk and fill up the cheques—I was at school with him, and know his writing—I believe that the bodies of these cheques are in the prisoner's handwriting.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I and the prisoner were taught handwriting by the same master—I said at the police court that I had paid away ten cheques—there are twenty cheques bearing the date of 19th November—after where the cheques were stolen from there is a date of 20th November, and after that there are three cheques of 19th November—I made a mis
<lb/>take there in writing them out on Thursday; I put the 19th instead of 20th—the Glenie on the counterfoil is in my handwriting, but the Glenie at the back of the cheque is in the prisoner's handwriting—there is nothing peculiar in the shape of the two G's; I don't think we both make our G alike—I was not aware that Mr. Steele came back about 3 in the after
<lb/>noon—I can't tell why I did not go to Mr. Steele's on the 20th—I had two thoughts, I thought perhaps they were stolen and I thought perhaps Mr. Steele might have taken them for his private use—when I saw the handwriting I thought the prisoner had taken them—I went with Mr. Keats to the White Bear, where the prisoner was lodging—a policeman was with us—I was outside when the prisoner came down—I am sure I did not point to the prisoner and say "That is him"—I took a photo
<lb/>graph out of my pocket at Brentford and showed it to Mr. Keats—Keats went inside the White Bear with the policeman—Keats spoke to me as we were walking from the White Bear to the station; the policeman could not hear it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He said "That is him"—I was about eight or nine when I went to school with the prisoner—I went to school with him about eighteen months—he would be acquainted with my handwriting—I have been at the office 4 1/2 years—there is not the slightest truth in the suggestion that the endorsement Glenie on the back of this cheque is in my handwriting.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-46" type="surname" value="KEATS"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-46" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE KEATS</persName> </hi>. I am proprietor of the Feathers Inn at Brentford—I know the prisoner—prior to the 19th November I had known him by</p>
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<p>sight—on 19th November about 3.45 he came to my house with this cheque and asked me if I would cash it for him—it was crossed—I was not able to cash it at that moment, but I went to Messrs. Hartland's bank—I pointed out Mr. Steele's signature and got the money and took it to the prisoner—I put it down on the counter—he counted it, put it in his pocket, and took it away—I have no doubt at all that he is the man that came there—I was communicated with, and went to the White Bear at Hounslow with the policeman—I went inside the house—I did not go upstairs—when I saw the prisoner I said, "He is the man I cashed the cheque for"—I have no doubt about it at all.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was inside and outside the house both—Hunt did not say to me "That is him;" I am sure of that—I told Hunt that was him because I saw his likeness—I told the policeman that was him at the station—the station is about 200 yards from the White Bear—I walked 200 yards before I told the policeman that was the man—I have never had any business dealings with the prisoner—I don't remember his being in my shop before, but I have been told he has—I have seen him about five times—I went to the bank and got the money, because I thought he was Glenie's son.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-47" type="surname" value="HUNT"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-47" type="given" value="HERBERT PEARMAN"/>HERBERT PEARMAN HUNT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The prisoner was a friend of mine—he did not come there on business, he came to see me—I have not had any business dealings with him—he has not bought horses for me—I never cashed any cheques for him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-48" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-48" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-48" type="surname" value="ATKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-48" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET ATKINS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of James Atkins, of 222, High Street, Brentford—on 19th November, about 35 minutes past 4 in the afternoon, I was in the shop—I knew the prisoner before by sight—he came in and presented this cheque for 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which I cashed.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw him again in custody at the police-court the following Saturday week—I knew there was some one taken up for passing cheques before I went—he was not placed among others—I saw him in a room with a policeman before he was in Court—I have seen him pass my window.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I had seen him outside my shop before I received the cheque—I am sure he is the man that brought the cheque.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEAR</hi>. I am son of the landlord of the Red Lion public-house at Southall—I know the prisoner by sight—I saw him on the morning of the 19th about 11 or 12 o'clock in the billiard-room of our house—Mr. Steele's office is about 100 yards from our house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My sister waits in the billiard-room as well as me—the first time the prisoner was there was between 11 and 12 o'clock—I cannot say when he left; he might have been there after 3 o'clock for all I know.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He was under my observation in the billiard-room about five minutes—I have no doubt of his being the man.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-49" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-49" type="surname" value="GLENIE"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-49" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES GLENIE</persName> </hi>. The endorsement at the back of this cheque, "Charles Glennie," is not in my handwriting—I live at Cairns Farm, Heath Row, which is about four or four and a half miles from Brentford—I know nothing whatever about this cheque.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have had cheques from Mr. Steele—there is an "n" too much in this name on this cheque—on the counterfoil is "Glenie," that is the proper name.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-50" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DREWITT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T</hi> 42). I am stationed at Hounslow Police-station—I was on duty there on Saturday, 22nd November—the</p>
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<p>witnesses Keats and Hunt came and produced a photograph, and in consequence of what they said I went to the White Bear public-house—I made inquiry and went upstairs—I there saw the prisoner dressing—I told him I had come respecting some cheques which had been stolen and uttered at Southall, and wished him to accompany me to the station—he said, "There must be some mistake here, I know nothing about any cheques"—at the station I asked Mr. Keats if he had any doubt about the man—he said, "I have no doubt whatever about it"—I found on the prisoner 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold, 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver, and 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Keats did not go with me into the White Bear—he went from the station, and I left him outside with Keats when I went in—Hunt said to Keats, "That's him."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of uttering.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18841215-96-punishment-11" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-96-18841215 t18841215-96-punishment-11"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, December</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-53" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE ALLISON</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Skinners' Arms, Skinner Street, Bishopsgate—on 17th November I served Clark with half a pint of ale, which came to 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a sixpence—I put it in the till and gave her the change—that was the only silver coin in the till—she drank the ale and left—a constable came in and spoke to me—I took out the six-pence and rang it on the counter, found it was bad, and gave it to the constable—on the next Saturday, November 22nd, between 8 and 9 p.m., Clark came in again—I recognised her and called my mistress—I did not serve her, but I followed her and gave her in custody outside.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 941). On 17th November, a little before 7 p.m., I saw the two prisoners in Bishopsgate Street Without, and followed them towards Shoreditch—Clark left Wright and went down Skinner Street—Wright stayed in Bishopsgate Street—I followed Clark into the Skinners' Arms, and saw her tender something in payment for beer and receive change—I called the last witness across the bar and said something to her—Clark saw that and went out—I was in plain clothes—the barmaid showed me a bad sixpence, which I marked—I went out after Clark, but could not find her—I saw Wright a few minutes afterwards looking into the same compartment as Clark had gone out from; I did not take him then—I went in search of Clark, but could not find her—on Monday, the 24th, when Clark was being conveyed from the station to Guildhall Police-court, I saw Wright in Guildhall Yard standing against a lamp-post—I told him I should take him in custody for being concerned with Clark in passing a bad sixpence—he said, "You have made a mistake"—I said, "I don't think I have"—he said, "You have, I was not in Bishopsgate Street at all"—I have often seen the two prisoners walking together, and four or five times within a fortnight of the first uttering.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Clark.</hi> I lost sight of you when you went out of the public-house, that is why I did not take you—I have followed you about on several occasions, but this is the first time I saw you do anything.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Wright.</hi> I had plenty of time to take you, but I wanted to take you on a second uttering, as you had been in custody</p>
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<p>twice before for something similar, but were not convicted—you were remanded on August 31st, 1881, for attempting to pass a bad shilling; on the remand the prosecutor failed to attend, and you were discharged—you were then in the name of Joseph Judge, and you were charged again in the same name on March 21st, 1883, with attempting to pass a counterfeit shilling; it being a single uttering you were again dis
<lb/>charged, and that is the reason I followed you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-55" type="given" value="ANNA"/>ANNA KITCHEN</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Skinners' Arms—on the night of 17th November Clark came in and I saw her served with half a pint of ale, which came to 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; she gave the barmaid a sixpence, which was put in the till; I saw it afterwards, it was found to be bad—on 22nd November Clark came in for half a pint of ale and gave me a sixpence; I tried it with my teeth, found it was bad, and called my mistress; she called the master, who came and said "This sixpence is bad"—on Monday night Clark did answer, but left the ale, walked to the door, and went out—Miss Allison followed her—these are the coins (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-56" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 333). About 8.15 p.m. on 22nd November I was on duty in the City Road—Miss Allison spoke to me, and in conse
<lb/>quence of what she said I stopped Clark, and told her I should take her back to the Skinners' Arms, which would be a mile off—the landlord said "I give this woman in charge for passing these two sixpences, one on Monday and one to-night"—I told her I should take her in custody, she made no answer—on the Monday, when I was taking her across Guildhall Yard, they were taking Wright in custody.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-57" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SLANEY</persName> </hi>. I am a cabinetmaker at 14, Eglinton Road, Old Ford—on 22nd November I went into the Skinners' Arms, and saw Clark in another compartment; Wright was standing in a doorway on the other side of the street when I went in, and I had a glass of ale, and as I came out Wright was trying to look in at the door; I went in again and spoke to Miss Allison—Wright walked about two yards to see if he could see into the house, and then came back to the door again.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I came out expressly to look for you and saw you walk about two yards and come back—I knew you because you were lame—when I came out the second time you were looking in at the door, and when I came out the third time you were gone.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-58" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of Coin to Her Majesty's Mint—these coins are all bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Clark's Defence.</hi> I did not know but what it was a good one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Wright's Defence.</hi> I never had my feet in Bishopsgate Street or Skinner Street on the 17th nor on the 22nd, and I never saw this woman in my life till I was placed alongside of her at Guildhall.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WRIGHT</hi>
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<interp inst="t18841215-98-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-62" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD GOULD</persName> </hi>. I keep the Old Coach and Horses, 81, High Holborn—on 15th November, between 3 and 5.30 p.m. I cleared my till and found four bad shillings—I communicated with the two barmaids and left the bar—about 10 or 10.15 I was fetched into the bar and saw Green and Knox there—I bolted the doors and sent for the police—the barmaids said in their presence that another shilling had been tendered—Green made a desperate</p>
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<p>attempt to get away, one of them moved the bolt, and Morgan threw me against the counter as I was trying to secure Green, and Kent assisted him—Green and Kent got away when Morgan threw me back, Green was apprehended as he went out and I detained Morgan—I gave the four coins to the policeman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Morgan.</hi> I found seven or eight coins in the till and the majority of them were shillings—I have a separate till for larger coin—I did not notice you there in the afternoon.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-63" type="given" value="MARION"/>MARION JOHNSON</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Old Coach and Horses—on 15th November I saw Green and Knox there between 3 and 5 o'clock, but they were there at 3 and they were there at 5, they may have gone out between, they were drinking together and paid sometimes with a shilling and sometimes with copper—I put the shillings in the till—I saw the landlord find four bad shillings in the till—the three prisoners came in together between 9 and 10 o'clock, one of them called for a pint of ale and put down twopence, and directly afterwards Knox called for a pot of ale and put down this shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—Miss Boyce took it up—I went for a policeman, and when I came back Green and Knox were gone and Mr. Gold was detaining Morgan—I had served Knox, he paid with coppers, but that was not the last time he was served.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Morgan.</hi> I don't know whether you came in with the others in the evening, but you were drinking with them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Knox.</hi> You tendered two shillings to me and one to the other barmaid.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-64" type="given" value="LOUISA"/>LOUISA BOYCE</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Old Coach and Horses—on 15th November I was in the bar all the afternoon and saw the three prisoners there—Morgan called for a quartern of rum, price fivepence, and gave me a shilling, I gave him the change—Knox called for a half quartern of rum and gave me a shilling, I gave him the change and put the two shillings in the till—I saw Mr. Gould clear the till, there were four bad shillings in it—I saw the prisoners there again between 8 and 9 o'clock—I served Knox with a pint of ale and he paid with this shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I held it in my hand, sent for the landlord and gave it to him, the prisoners were all in the bar—Mr. Gould bolted the doors and Morgan knocked him down while Knox and Green were getting out at the door—the prisoners drank together both in the afternoon and evening.</p>
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<persName id="t18841215-name-65" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-65" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY GRIGGS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 271). On 15th November, about 8 p.m., Mr. Gould showed me four bad shillings, and about 10 o'clock I was sent for to the Coach and Horses—Mr. Gould gave Morgan in custody for being concerned with two others in passing counterfeit coin and assaulting him—Morgan said he knew nothing of the men and had not assaulted the landlord—I took him to Hunter Street Police-station—Green was brought in there afterwards, and the two were charged together—I found on Morgan a florin, a shilling, and a sixpence, and five pence—going to the station Morgan said that he did not want to be taken along as a felon—he said he was having a drink of beer with them and did not know they had got any bad money; he was getting a light for his pipe when the landlord pushed against him, and he pushed him with his arm in return—I received this piece of metal (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from George Porter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Morgan.</hi> I saw no indication of a struggle on Mr. Gould.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-66" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM INKPEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 570). On the 15th November about</p>
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<p>10 p.m. I was called to the Coach, and Horses and saw Green and Knox run
<lb/>ning from that direction—Miss Boyce said "That is the man," pointing to Knox—I caught hold of him and he said "Is your man in front?"—Green was running on ahead—I left hold of Knox and pursued Green into Dean Street, and as he ran he threw away something three times—I did not see it, but from the rattle I believed it to be money—I came up with him about 50 yards up the street, and he suddenly turned round and kicked me in my stomach, but my belt saved it from being serious and I got hold of him—he said "What do you take me for?"—I said "For passing bad money"—he said "I will not be taken by you, if you want to fight I'll give you one"—with the assistance of another constable and several private individuals we took him to Bow Street, where I found on him a key which he said was the key of his room, three good sixpences, and 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he was afterwards taken to Hunter Street Station and charged with Morgan, when he said "We only uttered five, and there is always a reduction on taking a quantity"—I went to Dean Street about two houn afterwards and could see no coins lying about, but the shops were closed and it was all arkness; two boys pointed out an area grating to me within six or seven yards off, which Green had passed when I was chasing him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Green.</hi> You may have used the words about making a reduction in a jocular manner; you were under the influence of drink, but you were not drunk.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-67" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES SQUIRE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 537). I assisted Inkpen in taking Greet to Hunter Street Station—a little after midnight I went with Inkpen to the second-floor back, at Fisher Court, Kagle Street, Holborn—I tried to open the door but it was bolted inside—I called out to open it—the landlady was with me—I burst the door open and found Knox in bed—I said "What business have you here?"—he made no reply—I told him he had no right, and told him to get up and I'd have a look at him in his clothes—he got up and dressed, and I told him I should take him in custody for being concerned with others in uttering counterfeit coin in High Holborn—he said "We only done it for a drop of beer"—I saw a door key found on Green, it fitted the lock of the door where I took Knox.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-68" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SIBON</persName> </hi>. I live at 19, Dean Street, Holborn—on the morning of 16th November I was playing in Dean Street and saw a shilling down an area—I got it with a long piece of wood and gave it to George Poulter and then took it into a shop and asked if it was good—I should not know it again—I pointed out the area to the police.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-69" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am a painter and fitter, of 22, Dean Street—on 16th November, at 12.15, in consequence of what I heard I went to the same area and found another shilling—I showed it to Mr. Porter and saw him bend it on the stairs with his thumb and finger—it did not bend easily, it seemed rather hard—it was bad from the colour of it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-70" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PORTER</persName> </hi>. I am a potman, of 22, Dean Street—on 16th November I received a shilling from Tyburn, and another from Clark; they were both bad, I threw them into the fire and saw them melt, and these are the remains of them which I found in the cinders (
<hi rend="italic">metal pro
<lb/>duced</hi>)—they were dated 1849 and 1864.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-71" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. The first shilling uttered by Knox is bad; these four shillings found in the till are all bad, and two of them are of 1864, from the same mould as that uttered by Knox; the other two are both of</p>
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<p>1849—this metal is the same as these base coins are made of—a good shilling would not bend easily with the thumb—a good coin will not melt in an ordinary fire.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for Morgan.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-72" type="given" value="LETTY"/>LETTY BARROW</persName> </hi>. I am a milliner and lodge in Morgan's house—on 15th November, a little after 6, Morgan left home—I noticed that Mr. and Mrs. Morgan had a few words ana Morgan went out; he wanted to draw money from the bank and could not do it after 6.30, and it was then 6—it was the child's money—I saw his wife give him some money out of her pocket, and he left the house at 6.15.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It is a savings bank; his wife gave him the money to purchase a whip—he is a cab driver, he did not go out with his cab that day—he was at home from 12 or 1 o'clock till 6—I know that because we were both sitting in the same room and he was sewing tennis balls—I am not related to him—we were in the back room, the kitchen—he and I were six hours in the kitchen together, he may have gone into the other room—I did not go to the police-court on the first hearing, because I did not know that the barmaid was going to say that he was there in the afternoon.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Green's Defence.</hi> I know nothing about it. I was the worse for drink. I never threw away any money, I had none to throw away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Morgan's Defence.</hi> I have been a cab driver nearly 12 years, and should not throw away my character for such a paltry thing. I was at home sewing tennis balls. I do not know Knox. The landlord pushed against me and I returned it.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-98-18841215 t18841215-98-punishment-13"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-98-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-98-18841215 t18841215-98-punishment-14"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WARBURTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-74" type="given" value="ROSINA EMILY ELIZABETH"/>ROSINA EMILY ELIZABETH REECE</persName> </hi>. My husband is a tobacconist of 81, Lupus Street, Pimlico—on Nov. 17, at about 6.15, I served the prisoner witn a threepenny cigar—he gave me a half-crown; I tried it with my teeth and found it was bad—I examined the till and found another bad one—I spoke to my husband and then went back to the prisoner; he said, "Oh, what is the matter?"—I said, "You know what is the matter"—he said, "Is it bad?"—I said, "You know it is"—he said, "Give it back to me and I will give you a shilling"—I said, "No, I have just taken one, and now I will have you for giving me this one"—he tried to push past me, but my husband came—he tried to push past him also, but was given in custody with the two coins—I received this one three or four minutes after the other—this is the one the prisoner gave me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I took the other bad coin out of the till and took them both into the parlour—they were both Georges.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-75" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS MOORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 229). The prisoner was given into my custody—Mrs. Reece first gave me the coin he had tendered, which I marked; she then handed me the other, and said that she had taken it about three minutes previously—I marked it with a notch—I found on the prisoner two good shillings and two farthings—he was then taken before a Magistrate, remanded, and discharged.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-76" type="given" value="WILLIAM FREDERICK"/>WILLIAM FREDERICK MUNDEN</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Nightingale</p>
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<p>public-house, Alpha Road, Lisson Grove—on 27th November, between 11.30 and 12 p.m., I served the prisoner with twopennyworth of hot rum—he gave me a shilling, I placed it in the till and gave him 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—he stayed some time, and afterwards had half a pint of ale and a cigar, and gave me another shilling, which I put in the till—he then had half an ounce of tobacco for himself and a twopenny cigar for some one else, and put a shilling on the bar—I tried it, broke it, and gave it back to him and asked him where he got it—he said, "I brought a fare from the Bath Hotel, Piccadilly, to St. John's Wood, and the gentleman gave me a half-crown; the fare was 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and he gave me some lemons to make it up"—he then left—I knew him as a customer and had changed money for him previously, I do not know that I ever took any bad coin—three bad shillings were found in the till next morning, and Mr. Wood showed me the shilling which I had broken—the pieces had been picked up outside the house—on the following Sunday about 2.30 the prisoner came again and paid me with two penny pieces, and I gave him in custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You asked me on the 27th to give you a half-crown for three sixpences and a shilling; you also asked the barman to give you a shilling for a lot of coppers, which he did, and you put the shilling in your pocket—you did not, pay for any drink in coppers—the barman has since been charged with stealing marked money, and a marked shilling was found on him—Mr. Price was in the private bar when you entered; the barmaid was in the bar—she did not see me break the shilling, and I did not show it to Mr. Price.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-77" type="given" value="HARRY JOHN"/>HARRY JOHN PRICE</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Nightingale—on 28th November about 10 o'clock I cleared the till where Munden was serving, and found three bad shillings all of one date and a few good ones—I showed them to Munden, and gave them to a constable on the Sunday morning with another bad shilling which was taken from a box in his bedroom—the prisoner came again on Sunday morning, the 30th, and I charged him with uttering counterfeit coin—he said "Mr. Price, you have no right to think anything of the sort of me"—I gave him in custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There were about eight shillings in the till, three of which were bad—the young man found another bad shilling in his box and brought it to me—he is the man who I have since given in cus
<lb/>tody for stealing money out of my till—it was found in his box on the 28th, the morning after the charge, and another was taken the next morning—he was the under barman; he was convicted—I have seen you at the house several times, and never took any bad money from you to my knowledge, but a lot of bad money has been taken lately—I dis
<lb/>charged one barman, Charley, because he did not quite suit me—he was not quick enough; that was the only reason.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-78" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL COOK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 70). Mr. Price gave the prisoner into my custody—he said "I hope you won't charge me, Mr. Price; I have never passed any bad money here"—he said "Yes, I shall"—I searched him in the house and found 1 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-79" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID WOOD</persName> </hi>. I am a builder of 15, Lisson Grove—on the morning of 28th November I found this piece of a shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) on the ground by the Nightingale public-house, near the compartment in which I was.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was just outside the private bar in Lisson Grove.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The private bar outside which this coin was found is not the bar where I served the prisoner; it was found outside on the footway 10 or 12 feet from where I served him—I did not see him after he went out of the house.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-81" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two coins passed to Mrs. Reece are bad, and from different moulds; this broken piece is also bad—the three coins found in the till are bad and from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence stated that he paid for all the drink and cigars with coppers, and contended that the barman who had been given in custody for stealing money from the till was quite capable of putting in bad money and taking out good; he said that he had been 10 years in the army and left with a good character and a pension, having served in Afghanistan and Egypt.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WARBURTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prorecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-83" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT STEERS</persName> </hi>. I am 14 years old, and live at 28, Lyon Street, Caledonian Road, Islington—on 15th November I was in the Caledonian Road between 7 and 7.30 p.m.—the prisoner, who I did not know before, said to me "Will you run on an errand for me? I will give you a penny"—I said "Yes," and he gave me a packet and said "Go to the first boot shop on this side of the way and ask for two pairs of 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. sewn boots, size eight; if you cannot get eights get sevens, and what you want is on the paper"—I went to London's boot shop and gave the packet to a lady—she opened it and I saw money—she tried one of the pieces and it broke—she sent for a policeman—a
<hi rend="italic">dummy</hi> parcel was made up, and I walked up and down the Caledonian Road with it for nearly half an hour—I then saw the prisoner at the corner of Ditchley Road on the opposite side; he came over and took the parcel—I said "I can't get size eight"—he said "Here is the penay"—a policeman then took him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> When you took hold of the parcel you said "Where is the change?"—I am sure it was you, and not somebody taller than you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-84" type="given" value="LAVINIA"/>LAVINIA BINGHAM</persName> </hi>. I manage Mr. London's business, and am his sister—on 15th November about 7.30 Steers brought me some money wrapped in paper, and this slip of paper, on which is written "Please let the boy have two pairs at 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., size eight, sewn if you have them"—I examined the coins, got a constable in at the side door, made up a
<hi rend="italic">dummy</hi> parcel, and gave it to the boy—the constable went out at a different door—the coins were four half-crowns and two shillings—a boy had been in that afternoon in the uniform cap and the buttons of the Southwark Home on his jacket—he brought four half-crowns in a paper, making the balance due for a pair of boots which were bought in the afternoon—that was not the prisoner, but that made me suspect in this case.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-85" type="given" value="ADA"/>ADA LONDON</persName> </hi>. I am another sister of Mr. London—on 15th November about 3.30 p.m. the prisoner came in for two pairs of boots, which came to 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and paid 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on account—he said he would send a lad for them in the evening—the balance was 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I was not there when my sister gave up the boots.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I went to the station on Saturday night and picked you out—I stood there two or three minutes, not ten minutes, and said, "I don't think he is there"—a policeman did not point to you—I did not see one there—he did not say "Have another good look" when I was going to turn away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I think there were five others there—the inspector told me to go closer, and then I pointed him out—there is no truth in the suggestion that the inspector pointed him out.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-86" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GLASKETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 536). I was called to Mr. London's shop and saw Steers there—Mrs. Bingham handed me two lots of bad money, the first 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and the second 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—a parcel was made up and given to Steers in my presence, and I went out at the side door and followed him for half an hour—I was in uniform—I saw the prisoner take the parcel from Steers at the corner of Richmond Road with his left hand and offer him a penny with his right—I crossed the road and took him in custody—he said "What is the matter?"—I said "I shall take you in custody for sending Steers to the boot shop with bad money"—he said "You have made a mistake," and said to Steers "Are you sure I am the man?" and he said "Yes"—I took him to the station and found on him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in half-crowns and florins and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This florin is bad—these four half-crowns are bad, two are of 1874 from one mould and two of 1875 from one mould—here are four other bad half-crowns, three of 1881 and one of 1880.
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I plead guilty to taking the parcel from the boy, but I do not plead guilty to going to the shop and choosing the boots and paying the shilling; another man sent me to take the parcel."</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-100-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.*—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WARBURTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-89" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK LUCRE</persName> </hi>. I manage the Hope Tavern, Banner Street, St. Luke's—on 17th November tne prisoner came in about 10 p.m. and remained till 12.25—I served him with a pot of beer, price sixpence, and he paid with coppers; he then called for another pot and paid with this half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I put it in the till, there was no other half-crown there—I gave him the change—he then called for a third pot and the barman served him—I saw him put down a half-crown, which Morris took up, and said "What do you mean by giving me this?" he said, "I was not aware it was bad"—the coin was given back to him, and he or one of his friends paid for the ale with sixpence in coppers, he remained half an hour—I examined the till after the house was cleared and found this bad half-crown.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-90" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MORRIS</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Hope—on 17th November, about midnight, I served the prisoner and some friends with a pot of beer, he gave me a half-crown—I found it was bad and said "What game is this?"—he said "I was not aware it was bad"—I threw it on the counter, his friend picked it up and said "This is a wrong one," and they paid me in copper—they stopped and drank the beer and left the house—I afterwards saw Mr. Lucre find this bad half-crown in the till—it was the only half-crown there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-91" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY TOWNSEND</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Victoria Tea Company Whitecross Street—on 19th November, about 10.45 p.m., I served the</p>
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<p>prisoner with a quarter of a pound of two-shilling tea, he gave me a bad half-crown—he came again on 22nd November for half a pound of two-shilling tea—he gave me this bad shilling—I sent for a oonstable and gave him in charge with the two coins—he said that he was not in the shop on Wednesday evening.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-92" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PEACOCK</persName> </hi>. On 19th November I was in this tea shop, and when the prisoner went out Mr. Townsend showed me a bad half-crown and asked me to stop him—I went out but could not see him—I identified him at the police-court.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 174). On 22nd November Mr. Townsend gave the prisoner into my custody—he said "I did not know it was a bad shilling; I took it in change at a public-house in White Street, where I had been drinking with my aunt; I was not in Whitecross Street on Wednesday, the 19th"—I searched him in the house and found a good half-crown—I received this shilling and half-crown from Mr. Townsend, and this half-crown from Mr. Lucre.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-94" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two half-crowns are bad and from different moulds—this shilling is bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I was drinking in the Round House, Lower Whitecross Street, changed a half-crown, and must have got a bad shilling, and that was the coin I passed to Mr. Townsend. I was not in Mr. Townsend's shop on the Wednesday, when he says I passed him a bad half-crown."</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-101-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, December</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-97" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE LUTZ</persName> </hi>, I am a hairdresser, and live at 72, Devonshire Street, Colebrook Row, Islington—on Tuesday morning, 11th November, about a quarter to 1, I was walking home alone, perfectly sober—at the corner of Duncan and High Streets, Islington, I saw eight or nine men and the prisoner—before I came up to him I looked at him and he at me very hard; I thought I knew him—I had no sooner passed him than he came behind me and gave me a fearful blow at the back of my head, that made my head go back and my hat fall off—I picked my hat up—I asked him what he meant by it—he said, "You are one of them"—the eight or ten other men were standing on the other side, and they came over to his assistance; they held me—I called "Police"—they put their hands and handkerchiefs over my mouth to prevent my calling out—they delivered a tremendous lot of blows, back and front, and took my watch and chain from my waistcoat pocket, and some money I had in my trousers pocket—I should recognise one other man, the one that took my watch and chain—I swear most positively to the prisoner as the man that delivered the first blow—after they released me I followed them some distance through Duncan Street to Vincent Street—I was calling "Police" all the time—they defied me to come near them or they would do for me altogether—I communicated with the police—my face was almost unrecognisable; one eye was closed and the other was black, and</p>
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<p>my head very much swollen—I was attended by the police surgeon—I have not got my watch or chain back—I gave a description of the prisoner to the police—I subsequently saw him among nine or ten often at the station on 14th November and picked him out—I positively sweat he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had never seen him before—it was not dark at the place where the first blow was delivered.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-98" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HEATH</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Clarendon Club, 80, High Street, Islington—on the morning of 11th November, about a quarter to 1, I was inside the club, which is about 50 yards from Duncan Street; I did not go outside, and kept the door shut—there was a disturbance outside; they broke the windows—I heard several voices—the prisoner had been in the club on several occasions—I fancy I know his voice—I could not swear to the voices I heard—I did not go outside to see what the disturbance was.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant G</hi>). About half-past lo on Friday night, 14th Novemoer, I went to the White Lion public-house, High Street, Islington, where I saw the prisoner with about six other men—I called him out and said I wanted to speak to him—I told him I was a police-officer, and should take him into custody tor being concerned with other persons in assaulting and robbing a man on the night of be 10th in Duncan Street—he said, "I was at the Mogul that night'—I took him into custody—on the way to the station he said, "Mr. Brian, I have been a bad one, but I am going to start new"—the charge was read to him at Old Street Station—as he was leaving the dock he said, "You only took me because you knew me"—I had received descriptions of all of them from the prosecutor—the Mogul is a music-hall in Drury Lane—I was not there when the prosecutor was brought to the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-100" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HUTTON</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon at 87, Old Street, St. Luke's—about 3 or 4 o'clock on the morning of 11th November I went to the Old Street Station, where I saw the prosecutor—he had a wound on thee right upper eyelid three-quarters of an inch long; the eyeball was bloods hot—the other eye was blackened—his head was swollen and bleeding—he was suffering from a shock to the system.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined by the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>). What Ford says is not true—he said "Come on, you b----fool, you and I can have a deal"—I said "No, I am going home"—he said "B—Blind will sell your horse"—I said "So he won't, he will take it home."</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-106" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CHAPPLE</persName> </hi>. I live at New Heston and am a butcher—on 3rd December I went to the White Hart to see the prisoner and Ford there—I heard the prisoner selling the horse to Ford for 45
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 51). On the night of 6th Nov. I was called to King's College Hospital—I saw the prosecutor lying on a stretcher, wounded in the chest—from what I heard I went to 12A, Dean Street, Holborn, where I found the Prisoner oh tne first-floor—I Said "What have you been doing?" he said "I did not do it for the purpose, sir, I will not do it again"—I told him I would take him into custody fat stabbing the boy, and I took him to the boy's bedside at the hospital—the inspector asked the injured boy if there was anybody he could recognise; he had just strength enough to point to the prisoner, who only cried, went down on his knees, put his hands together and begged for forgiveness—I asked him where the knife was, and he said he had thrown it away in Lincoln's Inn Fields—I looked for it but could not find it—Reardon, the injured boy, is outside.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-111" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MORRIS</persName> </hi>. I live at 14, Queen Street—on 6th November, about 8 in the evening, the prisoner, Reardon, I, and some other boys were playing together in Eagle Street—the prisoner asked Beardon for a light, Reardon hit him, the prisoner went to hit him back again and Reardon hit the prisoner again—the prisoner then pulled the knife out of his pocket open and stabbed him in the chest—Reardon was taken to the hospital.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-112" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM REARDON</persName> </hi>. I live at 4, Prospect Terrace, Gray's Inn Road—on 6th November, about 8, I was with the prisoner and some other boys in Eagle Street I had only just come up—the prisoner came up to me and pulled my coat; I did not hear him say anything to me—I turned round and pushed him away; he came up again and I did the same again, and then he came up with an open pocket knife, with a blade about three inches long, and stabbed me in the chest—I did not see him pull it out of his pocket—I did not bleed much—the other boys took me to the hospital, where I remained about a fortnight—I did not strike the prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-113" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS PENNY</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at King's College Hospital—on 6th November the prosecutor was brought to the hospital suffering from a wound in the chest about 3/4 inch long a little from the median line; it penetrated the lungs, it was very serious because of the internal bleeding, there was very little external bleeding—he remained a fort-night in the hospital—he is now out of danger—it was such a wound as might have been caused by a penknife.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Inspector D</hi>). About 5 minutes to 5 on 25th November I was in Praed Street, and in a recess near No. 73 saw two bundles of clothes, one on the top of the other, in handkerchiefs; a constable came and took the bundles to the station; there was a ticket with them with Mr. Thompson's name on.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman D.</hi> 270). About 10 minutes to 5 on the morning of the 25th November I was on duty in Praed Street and saw Mills between Bouverie's and Moss's shops, 14 or 15 yards past Moss's—he asked me the time, I told him about 10 minutes to 5; he said, "I have been waiting about half an hour for my brother, he has not turned up yet"—he then walked away—a few yards from where he had been standing I found two bundles of clothing—the inspector came up and took charge of them.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi> to a conviction in March, 1884.—
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<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, December</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-144" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE PAGE</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of George Page, and live at 48, Nichol Street, Mile End Road—I have known the prisoner about seven months—I knew her when she was living in King Street—I only know her husband by going there—on Friday morning, 7th November, about 8 in the morning, the prisoner and her daughter Elizabeth Cunningham came to my house—she said her and her husband had had a quarrel, that her husband had accused her of having had connection with a young man</p>
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<p>lodger named Foxon, and that her husband had turned him out—she said she had left her house between 5 and 6 that morning, and that her little girl had not been to bed all night, and would I let her lie on my bed, and I did so—I and the prisoner then went to 72, Globe Road, and she engaged a room there and she said very likely she would come again that night—she saw her little girl then and went away again, and she came back again on Saturday morning, and my husband went with her to Foxon's mother in Wick Road, Hackney—they returned together and I and the prisoner then went to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Marian Street, Hackney Road, to Foxon's sister, Mrs. Foley—we knocked at the door and could not get in—the prisoner and her little girl then went to her new lodgings, 72, Globe Road—on Sunday I went over to her house—I saw her on Monday—she did not say whether she had heard from her husband or not—I went there again on Tuesday at 11—she said she had sent her child to find out its father to tell him she wanted him—the little girl came back and the father came is shortly afterwards; he came upstairs and used very abusive language to her, and accused her of having had connection with Mr. Foxon, and she told him it was untrue—she said she was going in the Union, and he said it was the best, place for her to go to—he was very angry indeed—he went away, and the prisoner sent the little girl after him for some money—he came back and gave the landlady a half-sovereign, he said it was for the little girl—the prisoner then went into hysterics—on Thursday, 13th November, about 8 o'clock in the morning, she sent the little girl for me, and she asked me if I would stay at home with her that day front work, and I did—I went with her to Foxon's sister again, and I left her there—she came to my house about 6 o'clock that night, and asked me if I would come to her house about 8 o'clock—she said she had telegraphed to her mother—she gave me a purse and some duplicates; she said I had to take them, as I had most right to them—I had been security for her to a tallyman for a watch—I went to the prisoner's house about 8 o'clock that night—the little girl was there and the prisoner was washing her—the prisoner asked me to go and get two penny worth of brandy—I got it, and when I returned the little girl was in bed—the prisoner then gave the child some brandy in a cup with some cold water, and the child drank it—there was nothing in the cup when the brandy was put in—after the child had drunk it the prisoner asked her if her throat burned—the child said it did—I should think that was about 10 minutes after the prisoner had given her the brandy—she sat down and began writing a letter, and then she took the child out of bed, wrapped it in a shawl and sat with it—the child complained again about the throat, and then commenced vomiting as she sat on the mother's knee—she did not vomit long—the prisoner said she had telegraphed to her mother to tell her the child was dying—about 9 o'clock the prisoner's mother came, and she said to her that she had given it poison, oxalic acid—she said she did not believe it, if it had been oxalic acid the child would have died—the prisoner said she had done it to bring her husband to justice for what he had accused her of—she then took from the cupboard a screw of white paper, aud the mother took it from her hand and threw it on the fire—the prisoner did not, say what was in the paper—she asked the mother to go for the police, and she refused, and the prisoner then asked me to go down and tell Mr. Vere, the landlord, that she wanted to speak to him—I went down and</p>
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<p>fetched him, and she then asked me to go for the police—she told Mr. Vere she had given the girl oxalic acid—she took from the cupboard a little bottle of phosphor paste, and gave it to Mr. Vere; she did not say anything, she gave it into his hand—she said she did not want to kill the child, it was only to bring her husband to justice—when she was washing the child it appeared to be all well and right—she had always before this treated the child very kindly and seemed very fond of it—there was not much vomiting during the time I was there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> She did say to me that she got the oxalic acid up the road—I was not at the police-court when a chemist named Finn was examined—there is a chemist of that name in the Globe Hood; it is about 10 or 12 doors from 72, Globe Road—when her husband accused her of adultery she was very much upset, and quite hysterical after he left—about 10 minutes after the child had taken the brandy in the cup it commenced vomiting—I always knew the prisoner as a respectable hard-working woman.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-145" type="given" value="ELIZABETH WADHAM"/>ELIZABETH WADHAM CUNNINGHAM</persName> </hi>. I lived with my father and mother at King Street, Mile End, and I afterwards lived with my mother at 72, Globe Road—my father came to see nrf mother there—they talked together, and after my father had gone tny mother cried a great deal—on Thursday night, 13th November, I was undressed in bed; my mother came to me and gave me oxalic acid—before I went to bed I went out to chemises, my mother took me there—mother sent me next door to get some foolscap paper—I know the chemist's, it is in the Globe Road—she bought some oxalic acid there, I think a pennyworth—I did riot see Who served her, I saw who was, in the shop—I did not see how the stuff was wrapped up—X know Mr. Finn, he was in the shop serving there—where I was in bed she gave me the stuff, and put some brandy in with it; she told me it was medicine, and told me to take it—it was in a cup; I did not see what she did with the cup before she gave it to me; she stirred it round with her finger—she held my nose while I took the staff—I drank all that was in the cup, there was not half a cupful, and when I had drunk it it burnt my throat for a little while—I then laid down; it still burnt my throat, and mother took me up and wrapped me in a shawl and sat me by the fire, and as she was going to put me back I was sick—after, that she put me in bed, and she then sat down and wrote on the paper I had got—I only vomited once, and afterwards I was put in bed, and I went to sleep—the landlord afterwards came and the police
<lb/>man, and I was taken to the police-station and saw the doctor—I saw the mess on the floor wiped up—my mother and father had always been kind to me—I have got no brothers or sisters—I can write, I wrote a note that night; my mother told me to write it, she did not tell me what to write—this is what I wrote (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>); my mother saw me write that—she told me to write a, letter before I took my medicine; she did not tell me who I was to write it to; she said, "You are to write what you like"—she was standing by the fireplace—I left it on the table; I know she looked over it. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: Dear Grandfather,—Mother asked me to go home to father. I told my dear mother that I would not leave her; father had been a bad man to my mother. This is the truth what I have wrote. My mother told me to write what I liked.—Lizzie Cunningham.")</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-146" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH GRIFFITHS</persName> </hi>. The prisoner is my daughter—she is 32 years old—she has been twice married—she has been married to her present</p>
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<p>husband 10 years—the little girl is 9 years old—the prisoner's husband is a mason by trade—she left him two years ago and went to Bristol, taking the child with her—she got employment at Bristol Infirmary and then she went as an attendant at the lunatic asylum at Bridlington—during that time I maintained the child—she was away altogether about two months, and then her husband found out where she was, and they made up their difference and she went back home again to Devonshire Street, Mile End, with her husband; then they lived in King Street, Mile End—I visited them there from time to time—I never visited them in Devonshire Street—she was always a very affectionate mother—on a Saturday in November I received a letter from the prisoner's husband; it was the day after she left him—on the following Sunday, the 9th, I went and saw the husband and had some conversation with him about my daughter—on 30th November, about 20 minutes after 8, I received a telegram from the prisoner—I put it in my pocket and came to her directly—after I had seen her I went to the husband at 19, King Street—the telegram I tore up and threw on the fire; it said "Mother, come at once, Lizzie is dying"—in consequence of that I went to 72, Globe Road—the landlord called up the stairs "Mrs. Cunningham, here is your mother"—she came half way downstairs and met me—I went up to her room—the child was lying in bed sleeping very comfortable—I pulled the clothes aside and looked at it, and when I had done it she said "I have poisoned Lizzie"—I said "I don't believe you, you could not do such a thing"—she said "I have, I have given her oxalic acid"—she said she had given it to her to bring her husband to justice for the cruel way he had accused her—she said "I have not given her enough to hurt her, and she has been sick"—she said she had written a state
<lb/>ment to me, but had not finished it—she said she would give it to me as it was, and she did so—this is the statement. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "72, Globe Road. My dear mother, in the name of Heaven I am not guilty of what the wretched villain has charged me with. I am willing to suffer death to put myself right. Dear mother, you know what a wretch he has been to me. God only knows I have done my best. Dear mother, what I have done is to be taken rather than go to the workhouse. Mrs. Edwards has been paid to speak against me. Go to 43, Nichol Street; the people know what I have been. Mrs. Tollen's address is 21, Marian Street. It is Dick's wicked lies against me.") She told me that she could not lead the unhappy life she had been living—when she told me she had given the child oxalic acid she went to the cupboard and got something screwed in a paper, and I knocked her hand and it fell on the fire, and I took it, up and threw it into the fire.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-147" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS VERE</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk, and live at 72, Globe Road—the prisoner came to live there with her daughter—I asked her her name—she said "Mrs. Foxon"—in the evening of Thursday, 13th November, about 11 o'clock, I was called to the prisoner's room by Annie Page—the child was in bed—the prisoner asked me to sit down—she said that she had poisoned her child—I asked her what she gave it—she said "Oxalic acid"—I asked if she had any more in the house—she said "No"—she asked me to fetch a policeman—before that I asked her where she got the oxalic acid from—she said she had bought it at a chemist's in the Globe Road—she gave me a small bottle containing phosphorus paste—she took it from the cupboard—when she gave it to</p>
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<p>me she simply said "Takethat," which I did—she said "You had better send for a policeman"—I said most certainly I should do so—I did, and Buckingham the constable came afterwards—I noticed some vomit on the floor which had been wiped up—the mother came and the constable came, and she was given in custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner has been kind and affectionate to the child as far as I had seen—when the police came the prisoner made some statement about bringing her husband to justice—I was at the police-court and heard Finn the chemist gave his evidence.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 490). I went with the last witness to his house in Globe Road, where the prisoner was lodging; I there saw the child in bed, and the prisoner sitting on the side of the bed—before I spoke to her she said "All right, policeman, I know what you have come for, sit down"—I did so and I asked her "You have poisoned your child?" she said "Yes, I have"—I commenced then to look about the place to see if I could find any more poison—she said "It is no use Booking for it; you will not find anything in the place"—she said "I will tell you any
<lb/>thing, and you can take it down in writing"—I did so, I took it down in pencil, and she signed it at the bottom after I had read it over to her in the presence of the other witness. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "I purchased a pennyworth of oxalic acid, I dissolved part of it in warm water, and gave it to my daughter. I did not intend to kill her. I did it to bring my husband to Justice.") After she had signed it her mother came—she said she should iave taken some herself, but her mother knocked it from her hand—some phosphorus paste was given to me by Vere—I took the prisoner and the child to the station—I noticed some vomit had been wiped up just outside the fender—I found a cup on the table turned bottom upwards—I tried to smell it—I could smell nothing, it appeared perfectly clean—the divisional surgeon saw the child, and it was removed to the infirmary—at the station I heard the prisoner say that she did it to bring her husband to justice, that she did not intend to kill the child—I went with the child to Globe Road, for the purpose of her pointing out to me where she went with her mother to buy the oxalic acid; and she pointed out Finn's shop, and I told him to attend at the police-court—I believe the child saw him at the police-court.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I noticed some vomit outside the fender, there had been some wiped up, and there was some still left there, which had not been wiped up—she had no chance of wiping it up after I was there—I did not see ner attempt to wipe it up.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-149" type="given" value="FREDERICK JOSIAH"/>FREDERICK JOSIAH BURGESS</persName> </hi>. I am a registered medical practitioner, and divisional surgeon of the K division of Police—on the night of Thursday, 13th November, I saw the little girl at the police-station; she told me her throat was burning and a nasty taste in her mouth—I had heard what had happened—it appears that it had been administered to her at 7; it was four hours afterwards that I saw her—oxalic acid is generally sold I believe for cleaning things—I do not know what a pennyworth would amount to; if given in a strong dose it would pro
<lb/>duce burning of the throat and vomiting.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I think a small quantity dissolved in a small quantity of water would produce sickness—what I call a strong dose is not large in quantity but strong in fluid—I should imagine the taste was something like Epsom salts—the vomiting prevented any worse result—</p>
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<p>it might endanger life according to the dose that was given, half a grain would produce vomiting—oxalic acid has more the appearance of a salt—it dissolves in water.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-150" type="given" value="ROLFE"/>ROLFE FINN</persName> </hi>. I am a chemist—I am not registered—I have no quali
<lb/>fication—I was only manager of this business during the temporary absence of the gentleman—I carry on a shop of my own; but I do not sell poisons at 120, Globe Road—I do not sell oxalic acid, but I have been manager to a gentleman's business in Bethnal Green Road, where they do sell it—a pennyworth would be four drachms—I did not sell this poison to the child or to, the prisoner—I have seen the child in court, and saw her point mo out—she has made a mistake evidently—the prisoner might have come into my shop—I am near sighted.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I can see a short distance, but not beyond three feet—I remember hearing of the child being ill, and the woman being taken into custody—I believe I was called to the police-court the day after the woman was taken up—I saw her at the police-court; and I think that was within twenty-four hours after it was said she had been to p»y shop—I don't remember ever seeing the woman before—I went to the police-court—I will not swear she was never at my shop—I was examined before the Magistrate—I said "I don't remember selling oxalic acid to any one"—I know what oxalic acid is—I have seen it at Mr. Lester'sshop, 428, Bethnal Green Road.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-153" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILSON</persName> </hi>. I am a weight-adjuster, and live at Providence Cottages, Melford Hill, Walthamstov—on the 12th November I was in the employ of Messrs. Oertling, Cowcross Street, balance manufacturers and was in their workshop with Sidney Smith and the prisoner and the deceased, all working together—the deceased and the prisoner was about four yards from me—I heard the deceased complain to the prisoner about his work not being correct—the prisoner said "The weights were correct"—the deceased said if he had any of his impudence he would knock him off the stool—the prisoner said "I am not afraid of what you can do"—I then heard a blow, it sounded like a hard slap, then another, as though it was returned by the prispner—I heard the prisoner say if he did that again he would put the knife into him—two or three seconds after that the deceased turned round to me and said "He has drawn blood, he has stabbed me"—he undid his apron and waistcoat and showed me a wound in his left side—I saw a knife in the prisoner's hand at the time of the quarrel; he was eating some bread and cheese for his lunch—Smith went with the deceased to the hospital—the prisoner and the deceased were fellow-workness together; neither had authority over the other.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have been working there 10 years—the prisoner has I think, been there something over two years—he bears the character of a peaceable well-behaved lad—he was sitting at a table in this room, and there was a balance on the table in front of him which he was adjusting</p>
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<p>—I was at the extreme corner of table table—when this scuffle took place, my back was towards the table; Simith was at the other side of the room, I can't say what he was doing. (
<hi rend="italic">The witness heft pointed out on a plan the vsarious places where they were sitting</hi>)—before this language was used I had seen the prisoner sitting on his stool cutting his bread and cheese with the knife in his hand—the prisoner did pot say "I will plunge this' into you," but" I will put the knife into you"—after that I heard a bit of a scuffle; I can't say that I heard a stool fall—the prisoner and the deceased had generally been on friendly terms—he did not say "Don't do it again or your will know something."</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-154" type="given" value="SIDNEY"/>SIDNEY SMITH</persName> </hi>. I work at Messrs. Oertling's—I was there on the morn
<lb/>ing of Novembar 12th—Wilson, the prisoner and the deceased were there—I heard the deceased complain of theprisoner's weight not being correct—he replied "theyarecorrect"—the deceased said if he had any of his impudence he would knock him off his stool; some moreangry words were passed between them—I then heard an exchanges of blows, thatthe same time the prisoner remarked if he did that again he would put the knifeinto him—I heard a scuffle, and the deceased went to wilsonand said "He has drawn blood"—I took him to St. Bartholomew's Hospital, helped to undress him there, and saw the would in the left side—I did not notice his clothes; he was waring his waistocoat, apron, shirt, and under shirt I think, but it would not touch the apron.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This room is about 16 years long, and not so much square—I am quite sure the prisoner said "If you do that again I will put the knife into you"—he did not say "I will plunge this into you"—I heard a stool rattle, I don't think it feel down—at the time of the quarrel the prisoner was sitting on a stool cutting his bread and cheese with the knife in his hand—the deceased rose from his seat and went towards him, when the prisoner rose from his seat and went on one side.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-155" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY OERTLING</persName> </hi>. I carry on the business of balance manufacturer—the prisoner and deceased were in our service—I heard of this occur
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner has been in our employ three years, first as porter and then promoted for his steady and good behaviour—he has borne the character among the workmen of a civil, well—behaved lad—some little time before this theworkmen subscribed for some present to him on account of his behaviour.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-156" type="given" value="WILLIAM THOMAS HONE"/>WILLIAM THOMAS HONE SPICER</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at St. Bartholc
<lb/>mew's Hospital—on 12th November the deceased was brought there by the witness Smith about 12 o'clock in the day—his clothes werp taken off and I examined him—there was a wound immediately below the nipple beneath the sixth rib on the left side, about two inches long; it had gone through his clothes and into the chest—there was a great deal of bleeding—he remained under my care till 24th November, and in the afternoon of that day, about 2 o'clock, he died—I made a post-morten examination—I found that he had died of pleurisy and inflammation of the sac of the</p>
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<p>heart, from the effect of the wound—this knife would cause such a wound—a great deal of force was used to send it in that direction.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The direction of the wound was upward and inward—the deceased was about 24 years of age.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-157" type="given" value="HERBERT GEORGE"/>HERBERT GEORGE SAVILL</persName> </hi>. I am assistant clerk to the Lord Mayor—on 13th November I attended at the hospital with Mr. Alderman Savory for the purpose of taking the deposition of the deceased—the prisoner was there, and in the presence of the prisoner the deceased was sworn and his deposition taken—the prisoner had an opportunity of asking any question—the deposition was read over, and the deceased put his cross to it—the charge at that time was unlawfully and maliciously wounding James Edward Cochrane with intent to do him grievous bodily harm. (
<hi rend="italic">Deposition read</hi>: I am employed in adjusting weights. I live at 15, Neale Street, Long Acre. I work at 50, Cowcross Street. I know the prisoner; he is a fellow-workman. Some time about 11 o'clock yesterday morning we were at work together; I spoke to him about some weights, he was saucy. I can't call to mind what he said. I hit him with the back of my hand on the face; he picked up the knife with which he was eating his lunch, a dinner knife, and he said 'I will plunge this into you,' and he struck me on the side with it. I pressed the wound with my hands, got downstairs, got a four-wheeler, and came to the hospital. I left the prisoner there. I have not had a quarrel before with him, nothing to mention. I have known him about two years altogether. I think I struck him twice on the face. I did not run against the knife, he plunged it into me. There was a stool between us. He plunged it into my left side. It was after he said 'I will plunge this Knife into you' that I struck him the second blow in the face; it was the same moment I had the knife.")</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was in answer to a question that he said, "I did not run against the knife."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Sergeant Diddems was present at the time—Inspector Peel had previously given me some account of the matter.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police-Sergeant S</hi>). About 11 on the night of the 12th I took the prisoner in custody in Clerkenwell—I said, "A man named Oockrayne is very ill at St. Bartholomew's Hospital, and I shall take you to see if he is in a fit state to make a statement"—he said, "I was in the workroom this morning having my lunch; he complained about my weights not being correct; I said they were, after which he slapped my face with the back of his hand; I told him not to do it again or he would know something; I was cutting some cheese when he came towards me again; I held my hand out sharp with the knife in it, it struck him in the side; he said to Wilson I had made blood, after which he went to the hospital. I am very sorry, I did not intend to hurt him"—I took him to the hospital, but we were not allowed to see the injured man that night, he was too weak—I took the prisoner to the station; the knife was afterwards handed to me, I showed it to the prisoner next morning; he said, "That is the knife I had in my hand when he ran against it."</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received an excellent diameter from a number of witnesses.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of the suddenness of the act and the provocation he received.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">wednesday, Descember</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">McLEAN</hi> </rs> (39)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HORACE AVORY</hi>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-160" type="given" value="JAMES JOCELYN"/>JAMES JOCELYN GLASCOTT</persName> </hi> I am a Captain in the 2nd, Manchester Regiment—I seryed in the Mauritius in 1867 for a short time, and again in 1873 and 1874—I knew a gentleman named Hill there the last time—the prisoner is not that man—about 12th November this year this letter was sent to the headquarters of the Volunteer Battalion, 31, Great Smith Street, Westminster. (
<hi rend="italic">Reminding the witness of their acquaintance in the Mauritius, and asking him for</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">or</hi> 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">as a loan.</hi>) Believing the writer to be a gentleman I had known there I sent him a cheque on Cox and Co. for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and about 16th November I received this letter in the same writing. (
<hi rend="italic">Expressing gratitude for the remittance.</hi>) I never saw the prisoner till I saw him at the police-court.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> The letter does not represent you as a former comrade, only as having known me in the Mauritius.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I would not have lent a stranger the money.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-161" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK HODGES</persName> </hi>. I am cashier to Messrs. Cox, bankers, of Craig's Court—I cashed this cheque for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. over the counter on 16th November—it is endorsed "J. Hill"—I do not recollect the person who cashed it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-162" type="given" value="AMY"/>AMY BRACKENBURY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Captain Herbert Brackenbury, of the Royal Artillery—I live at Brook Cottage, near Gosport—he is now on his way home from Hong Kong, but probably left before a letter which I forwarded to him arrived—that letter was from a Mr. Hill to my husband—on 28th October I received this letter. (
<hi rend="italic">Dated October 27th, 58, Hanover Gardens, Kennington Park, from J. Sill, stating that Captain Brackenbury would probably recollect him, requesting a loan of money in con
<lb/>fluence of his illness.</hi>) I then sent a post-office order for 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to Mr. Hill with this letter. (
<hi rend="italic">In this the witness stated that she relied upon Mr. Hill's honour to return the amount, and hoping he would obtain medical relief.</hi>) He had said in his letter that he had cancer in his chest, and it was in consequence of my believing that that I sent the money—I then received this letter. (
<hi rend="italic">Signed "J. Hill" acknowledging the</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.) I was in Singapore with Captain Brackenbury in 1881 and 1882, and the letter implied acquaintance with him there—I knew nobody of that name there, but there might have been—I never saw the prisoner till he was in custody—I said in my answer that I could afford to lend the 21, but not to give it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LANSDOWN</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector, Scotland Yard</hi>). I have charge of this case—Captain Reginald Hull is a prosecutor, and was a witness before the Magistrate—he is now ill in Yorkshire, and has sent me a medical certificate—on 24th November I took the prisoner at 4, Eth
<lb/>erington Road, Clapham, on this warrant, which I read to him—he said, "Yes, my name is McLean, I had the cheque from Captain Glascott"—I searched his rooms, and found 46 volumes of the Army List, dating from January, 1856, to October, 1884, most of which have pencil marks against the names of certain officers, and in the List for October, 1884, there is a cross against Captain Glascott's name—I also found a number of sheets of paper with the names of officers in the Army List written in ink and marked off—I have compared them with the letters to</p>
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<p>Captain Glascott and Mrs. Brackenbury, and with a pocket-book found on the prisoner, and am of opinion that they are the same writing—I also found a bill-head at his lodging with an address at Leeds, and have compared it with these letters, and am of opinion that they are the same writing.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-163" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET HUNG</persName> </hi>. I live with my husband at 4, Etherington Road, Clapham—I let apartments—the prisoner came to lodge with us on 64th September in the name of Graham, and remained till he was arrested—his health was very good, and he had no appearance of suffering from cancer in his chest—no doctor came to see him—he spent his time chiefly in copying from the Army List and writing letters—he only had two or three answers to them at my place, and those had the Leeds postmark.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I came into your room repeatedly to lay the cloth, and saw you copying from the Army Lists and writing.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-164" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN DIXON</persName> </hi>. I am single, and am assistant to Mr. Walker a stationer, 82, High Street, Clapham—I have fleen the prisoner there, we received letters for him, which he said were for a friend of his, and which we posted by his directions in envelopes sent to us addressed "J. Hill, Esq., 52, Portland Crescent, Leeds. Immediate."</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-165" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY PRICE</persName> </hi>. I keep a stationer's shop at 58, Hanover Gardens, Kenningfon Park Road—the prisoner came in about the end of August and bought various things; and after he had been there once or twice he asked me to take letters in for a friend of his, Mr. J. Hill, who he said was always travelling about, and had no place to have his lettew, left—I consented, and after that five or six letters a week came for Mr. J. Hill, which the prisoner fetched away—I afterwards received a letter asking me to forward the letters to 52, Portland Crescent, Leeds.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-166" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN SHAKLETON</persName> </hi>. I live at 52, Portland Crescent, Leeds—the prisoner lodged in my house for a few weeks three years ago, in the name of McLean; and in July last he wrote me this letter from Liverpool. (
<hi rend="italic">Stating that he was likely to come to Leeds in two or three weeks, and had given the witness's address to several friends, and requesting her to take in any latter for him.</hi>) I replied, and received seveial letters addressed to him, which I enclosed to "Mr. J. Brown, Clapham Park Road, near London," according to directions.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not forward any letters to Etherington Eorf—I did not know you lived there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-167" type="given" value="GEORG SMITH"/>GEORG SMITH INGLIS</persName> </hi>. I am a professional expert in handwriting—have examined the note book found on the prisoner, this envelop addressed to Captain Glascott, this letter to Mrs. Shakleton, and this letter to Mrs. Brakenbury, and in my opinion they are all in the same writing. (
<hi rend="italic">The entry in the note book was "A small sum would even help me. I have never been accustomed to this kind of thing, and God only knows it is the greatest suffering, and being placed as I am nas drifra me to it.</hi>")</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-171" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK ELLIS</persName> </hi>. I am employed by Messrs. Debenham, silk mercers, of Wigmore Street—Coulon came in in September for 7 3/4 Yeard of dress material for Miss Martin, of 10, Blandford Street, a dressmaker and customer—I had seen her Defore but do not recollect serving her—I gave October 3rd she called again for 4 1/2 yards of serge for Miss, Martin, to whom it was debited as before—on October 14th she came again for 36 yards of cardinal dress material for Miss Martin, whioh was put down to her—on October 21st she came and had 16 yards of dress material for Miss Martin, which was put down to her—I believed Coulan to be in Miss Martin's service.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-172" type="given" value="WILIAM"/>WILIAM HAGGARD</persName> </hi>. I am employed by Messrs. Debanham and Freebody—I have served Coulan on many occasions for Hiss, Martin—on 7th October she came in for a length of dress material for Miss Martin, of Blandford Street, and it was put down to Miss, Martin—on, 16th October she came again for another length for Miss Martin, she was Supplied, and it was put down—on the 17th October she came again, and on the 18th, 20th, 21st and 22nd again with the same statement, and all the goods were put down to Hiss Martin.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-173" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA MARTIN</persName> </hi>. I am a dress maker of 16, Bilandford Street, and deal with Debenham and Freehody—Coulan was in my service and left last July, since when I have never authorised her to order any goods for me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer M</hi>). I toot Coulan—on 5th November I went to 102, East street, where Howes lived, and, said "I am a police lofficer making inquiries about Annie Coulan, who I have in custody, for obtaining dress material from Debenham and Freebody a pieoe of which has been pledged at Mr. Amhurst's, 74, East Street, in the name of Annie Coulan, 102, East Street; do you know anytmng about it?"—she, said "I have pawned several pieces of cloth for Coulan at different times at Brooking's in South Street, and Richardson's in South Street; Richardson's in John Street; Cotton's in Harris Road and Great James Street, but I did not know that any of the material pas got from Debenham and Freebody's"—I went next day to 1A David Street and saw Emma Bay—I tola her I was a police officer and had come to make inquiries abput Coulan, who I had in cufltody—Foley was there, and said she could tell me something about it; that Annie Coulan and she about a month ago got 4 1/2 yards of serge from Debenham's—she said "Coulan went in for it and I stayed outside; I advised Coulan not to use Miss Martin's name too much, as she might be found out, and told her to use Miss Sanders's name instead; that piece of stuff I pawned at Brooking's, South Street, in the name of Coulan, for 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—she did not say who Miss Sanders was—after that Coulan came up again for hearing and made a statement, in consequence of which I arrested Foley and Howes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-175" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN REED</persName> </hi> I am assistant to Messrs. Brooking, of South Street, Manchester Square—I produce three lots of cloth; tha forst was pledged on October 16 for 5
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<p>October in the name of Jane Connor, by a person I cannot identify; there are the tickets.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-177" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BENSON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Eichardson, of 20, John Street—I produce a piece of cloth pledged for 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on October 22nd in the name of Ann Ray—I do not know by whom.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-178" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-178" type="surname" value="MORRE"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-178" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES MORRE</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Richardson, of 11, Upper Geroge Street—I produce 15 yards of cloth pledged by Howes in the name of Ann Howes for her mother—Foley was with her.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Foley.</hi> I have every reason to believe it was yon.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-179" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-179" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-179" type="surname" value="CAVE"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-179" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID CAVE</persName> </hi> I am assistant to Mr. Chapman, pawnbroker, of 19 Stafford Street—I produce nine yards of cloth pawned on 22nd October is the name of Ann Howes, 6, Charles Street—I cannot say who by.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANKHORE</hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Amhurst, pawnbroker, of East I Street, Manchester Square—I know the name of Ann Howes as a cus
<lb/>tomer, but I don't remember the person—on 20th October I took in II yards of cloth in the name of Ann Howes, 102, East Street—I don't know whether I see her here—I gave the ticket out.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-180" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-180" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-180" type="surname" value="HAGGARD"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-180" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HAGGARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I identify this property as my em
<lb/>ployer's, delivered to Coulan on the days named.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-181" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-181" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-181" type="surname" value="RAY"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-181" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA RAY</persName> </hi>. I live with my father and mother at 1A, David Street—I have seen Coulan and Howes together, and I once saw Coulan with Foley in North Street—I have been with Coulan and Howes to Richard
<lb/>son's in George Street—Howes had a parcel—nothing was said of when it came from—they went in and pawned it, and when they came out Coulan gave me a shilling—I have also been with them both to Richard
<lb/>son's in John Street, where Howes pawned something, but I got nothing—I knew Foley once when she pawned a parcel—she said it came from Debenham's, and Coulan said that she would give four of us dresses alike from Debenham's—she got the stuff, but I did not get any of it—I have watched with Howes while Coulan went into Debenham's and brought out a parcel and pawned it in George Street.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HOWES</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-116-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-116-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18841215-116-punishment-30" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-116-punishment-30" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-116-18841215 t18841215-116-punishment-30"/>Three Months' Hard Labour each.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, December</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALFRED LYON</hi> (22)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-183" type="given" value="LOUISA"/>LOUISA HOWLETT</persName> </hi>. I serve in the bar of the public-house at 79, White chapel Road—between half-past 1 and 2 p.m. on 3rd December the prisoner came in for a half-pint of ale and half an ounce of tobacco, which came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave in payment a half-crown, which I tried, and it broke in two in the tester—I asked him where he got it—he said from his master—I said "I should advise you to take it where you got it, it is no use to us"—he had drunk his beer, I took the tobacco away from him and he left.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-184" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHERMAN</persName> </hi>. I am barman at this tavern—in consequence of what took place I followed the prisoner—about 100 yards from the house</p>
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<p>he joined two young men; they went down the road some distance, and one from the near side seemed to cross and to pass something to the prisoner—I did not see anything pass—when they got farther down the road, exactly opposite the hosier's shop, the prisoner left the other two men—I followed him about 25 yards from him—I was on one side and the prisoner on the other—he went into a hosier's in Mile End Road—I went in, and in the prisoner's presence asked Allen if he had been served—he said "Yes"—I asked him what he had tendered him—he said a half-crown, which he showed me—I should not know it again—I asked the prisoner what he had done with the one the barmaid had given him—he said he had thrown it away; and then he said to the manager "It is the first day I have been at the business"—he was given into custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLESALLEN</hi>. I am shopman to Mr. May, hosier, of 105, Mile End Road—on 3rd December the prisoner came in for a pair of stockings—he gave me a half-crown—Sherwin came in; I said "What for you?"—he said "Have you served this man yet?"—I said "Yes,"—he said "What did he buy, anything?"—I told him a pair of stockings—he said "What did he give you?"—I said "Half-a-crown"—he said "Did you notice any
<lb/>thing about it?"—I said "No, it is all right, I believe"—I had rung it on the counter, and it seemed all right—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I gave it to the manager, and while I was gone for the constable he broke it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-185" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-185" type="surname" value="NEWPORT"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-185" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM NEWPORT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 44). I was called, and Allen said to I the prisoner "Where did you get that half-crown from?"—the prisoner said "My master gave it me"—I said "Are you going to charge him?"—Allen said "Yes"—I said "Have you got any more about you?"—I the prisoner said "No"—I said "I will see; take off your clothes"—he took off his coat and waistcoat—I searched him well, but found nothing I on him—I took him to London Bridge Station—I received this half-crown from the manager—I have kept it in my possession—the inspector asked him how long he had been at the work, and he said "It is my first day."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAMWEBSTER</hi> I am Examiner of Coins to Her Majesty's Mint—this is a bad half-crown—the ring of a bad is often equal to the ring of a good coin; it depends how it is made—the ring is by no means a safe test, but however good the ring is, a bad coin will never jump, because of its less specific gravity—a bad coin will break in two in the teeter.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-117-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-117-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18841215-117-punishment-31" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-117-18841215 t18841215-117-punishment-31"/>Eight Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN HALEY</hi> (23)</persName>
<rs id="t18841215-118-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<interp inst="t18841215-118-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILKINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-187" type="surname" value="WOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-187" type="given" value="REBECCA"/>REBECCA WOOD</persName> </hi>. I am employed at the Bull and Bell Tavern, in Rope
<lb/>maker Street, Finsbury Pavement—on 28th November, about 8.30 p.m., the prisoner came in for half a pint of porter, and gave me a shilling—I gave him elevenpence change—I looked at the shilling, and put it on the back shelf by itself—I did not like the look of it—about twenty minutes to 12 on the same night I was in the wine bar by myself, when the prisoner came in for half a pint of porter, and gave me a half-crown, and I gave him change and put the half-crown with the shilling—I said nothing to him—he did not stop to drink his drink, but left—after the house was closed I showed the shilling and half-crown to Mrs. Philips and gave them to her, these are them—on the following night I saw the prisoner in the bar, and said he was the man that gave me the two bad</p>
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<p>coins the previous night, and I was sent to fetch a constable, who took him to the station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I had a doubt about the shilling—that is why I put it by itself on the shelf—I did not try it—I am not used to tin business—I was in the bar alone both times you came in—neither Mr. nor Mrs. Philips came in the bar between the times you came in—I was in the bar alone the whole evening—I had no tester there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I did not try it in my teeth—I am quite certain the prisoner is the man.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-188" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-188" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-188" type="given" value="MATILDA"/>MATILDA PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>. I am George Philips's wife, he keeps the Bell and Bull Tavern, in Ropemaker Street—on 28th November after the house was closed, Miss Wood handed me this half-crown and shilling—next evening I saw the prisoner in the bar about 7.15—Mr. Philips served him with beer and he paid with a penny; he next called for three-halfpenny worth of rum and tendered this naif-crown—I compared it with on the shelf taken the night before, which had the same date as that, 1836—I sent Rebecca "Wood for a constable—I told the prisoner I should charge him, he made no remark but ran away; the police ran after him—I followed and he was caught after going through several streets—we had taken ten shillings worth of bad money that week; he was taken to the station—I went Back to put my hat and jacket on—Wood recognisel him, and then I said "You are the same man that was in here last night; he said he wap not—I gave the three coins to the constable; he has been in the habit of frequenting my house—Miss Wood Was alone in the bar on the 28th—I and my husband were in the parlour haying supper; we had only a tester for gold then—our barmaid left three weeks ago, and miss wood assosts in the bar now, after her other work is done she is not a regular barmaid.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I took the half-crown from you on Saturday night, not Mr. Philips—when I said I should charge you, you put down another shilling, and said "I can pay for it;" at the station you said "If you give me a chance, I will fetch a man who can prove where I got it from"—you did not say that before; you said at the station you got the half-crown at the White Hart, Botolph Lane; the policeman was before me—I and Mr. Philips were not in the bar on the Friday night—I have not seen you in the house for some weeks, until this last week—I knew nothing about the coins on Friday night until after the house was closed—I know you too well; I know you are not much good.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18841215-name-189" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18841215-name-189" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-189" type="surname" value="WILLISON"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-name-189" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED WILLISON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policernan G</hi> 445). On 29th November I was called to the Bell public-house, Eopemaker Street, at 7.15—I saw the prisoner run out at the door, some person shouted out "Stop him, he has passed bad money"—I followed the prisoner through several streets, and stopped him in Bunhill Row—shortly after the prosecutrix came un and charged him with passing a bad half-crown—I took him to the station—Mrs. Philips eaid she should charge him; he said he did not do it—at the station he said he got the bad half-crown in change for some tickets at the White Hart public-house, Botolph Lane; those would be ticketss I think for carrying boxes at the waterside—I searched him and found a good shilling—I received from Mrs. Philips these three coins which I have produced to—day.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You were only charged at the time with passing the one; afterwards Mrs. Philips brought the other two coins to the station,</p>
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<p>and charged you with uttering the half-crown and shilling on the Friday night—I was in advance of Mrs. Philips when I stopped you.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Rebecca Wood did not come to the police-Btation—he did not stop running at all after leaving the public-house—I only lost sight of him for a second as he turned a corne, I kept very close on him—Wood came up in the crowd and identified him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-190" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are two bad half-crowns from the same moulcl, 1836, and a bad shilliug.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I got these half-crowns in exchange for some tickets at the White Hart in Botolph Lane."</p>
<hi rend="italic">He repeated this statement in his defence, and added that he had run out of the house to fetch the man who could prove his laving changed the tickets.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-118-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18841215-118-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18841215-118-punishment-32" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-118-18841215 t18841215-118-punishment-32"/>Twelve months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, December</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-119-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing a mare, a van, a set of harness, 20 half-chests of tea, and 16 before of tea, the property of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-194" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN POTTER</persName> </hi>. I am a general carrier, of 67, Lower Thames Street—Mason, my carman, has been with me three years, and had a good character—I dismissed him in November—on 28th October I had to collect 20 half-chests and 17 boxes of tea from Smith's Wharf, and sent Mason with the van and a chestnut mare to collect them—nine of the cases were to be delivered at Geporge Lane, Podding Lane, Eastcheap—Mason came back just before 2 o'clock and made a statement to me, in consequence of which I went to Seething Lane Police-station and gave information of the loss of my horse and van—on the same evening I saw them in the greenyard, Kingsland Road—the van was empty: the mare was very weary and bad and overdriven, and had been standing in the wet—I have had to pay the consignees just under 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the tea—on 17th November I first heard about the two prisoners; that was after Mason had left my service—I gave evidence against them at ttye police-court on 9th December—Mason was a prisoner on the evening of 24th November.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Mason came back to me about 2 o'clock on the 28th, and told me he had lost the van—he did not then mention the names of either of the prisoners—he accompanied me to the station—he left about a week after the 28th—he informed me on 17th November as to these two men—that was the first time I had heard an accusation against them of having stolen the van—I met Mason in the street; I was driving, and I took him up in my pony cart and said, "You had better make a clean breast of it, and tell me all you know," and I said that it would be better for him—I said, "It will be lighter for you, and you may probably get off altogether"—he had given me part of the information before—I then drove with him to the police-station, put him in communication with an officer, and Jeft him—that was on the 17th, and he was taken in custody on the 24th, and remained in custody till December 9th, when evidence was first given at the Mansion House—there were three remands, and on the morning of the third remand I told Harding, the police-officer, to ask</p>
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<p>for Mason's discharge that he might be called as a witness, which was done, and we offered no evidence against him—I have a brother Isaac; he and Mason worked together every morning, and sometimes of an evening—my brother is not here; he gave me no information about this matttr—he has been my service nearly all his life—he is younger than me—he has not been away from work any length of time for the last three years, he may have been during the last four years—it was suggested at the Mansion House that he had been convicted of a van robbery four years ago and sentenced to a term of imprisonment—he was at the Mansion House on one occasion in this case, but not on the last occasion—he is not here because he is not required.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> It was Mr. Purcell, the prisoner's Counsel, who suggested that my brother had been convicted—my brother was in my service on 28th October, and in charge of a horse and van—his employment that day was totally distinct from Mason's.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-195" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HIDE</persName> </hi> On 28th October I loaded onto Mason's van, at Smith's Wharf, 20 half-chests and 12 boxes of tea—I saw another man who is not here.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-196" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MASON</persName> </hi>. I was 18 years old last September—I was Mr. Porter's carman—I know Connor as Ned Sweeney and James as Bob Low—on 28th October I had to collect some tea at Smith's Wharf, and after I had loaded them I saw the prisoners—James said "Hallo, Dick, can't you lose your van?"—I said "No"—I drove to Miles Lane and they followed—I delivered three half-chests there, and they called me into a public-house and gave me some whisky—I then drove to Pudding Laue where I had to deliver nine of the chests, and when I got then Connor said "If you don't let me take the van away you will not get a farthing"—I had to go down George Lane, as it was too narrow for the van—I carried one chest down, leaving the horse and van and 20 half-chests and 17 boxes of tea—I was away a quarter of an hour, and when I returned they were gone, and the prisoners also—that was about 1 o'clock—I then went to Seething Lane Station and made a report to the police and then weut and told my master—I next saw the prisoners on the Friday evening at the corner of Baker's Row, accidentally—James said "Come down lower"—we went, and he and I went into a public-house, Connor stood outside—James gave me 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and said "Come here to-night at 8 o'clock"—I went to Baker's Row at 8 o'clock, but did not go to the public-house—they gave me 2
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and told me to come on Sunday night, which I did, and they gave me 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that was the last I saw of them, I have known them three months.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I told Mr. Potter on the day the van was lost, but not the police—it would not be true to say that I told the police the names of the men that night—I did not mention their names to Mr. Potter the day the van was lost—I was in Court when Mr. Potter was examined, I did not hear him say that I mentioned their names that night—I know Renshaw, I knew him before I was at the police-court; we have worked together, and I have drunk with him, and have heen with him once to the Standard Theatre—I have not been to the Cambridge with him, I used to meet him, but did not treat him, he paid his share at the theatre and I paid mine—I did not see him at the time the the van was lost, I only saw him once between 28th October and 17th November—that was when we went to the Standard—when I went to</p>
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<p>Miles Lane I knew the prisoners wanted to steal my van; they were on top of it when I went, but I did not think they would take it away—the meaning of losing thfl van was this: they said "You go in a coffee-shop and stop there and we will take the van;" I did not do that, but I went to deliver the tea—being friends I did not think they would rob me—I did not mention a word of this to Mr. Potter or the police till I saw Mr. Potter in the pony cart, and he said I had better make a clean breast of it—he did not say "Tell us all you know," but he said "It will be better for you and probably you will get out of it altogether"—I received the 2
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. outside the public-house—I heard my evidence read over and signed it as correct—the barman served us in Miles Lane—that was in the middle of the day, he could see us all three together—I have not seen him here—on the evening I was taken I met Mr. Isaac Potter, I knew him working at John Potter's, I did not know I should see him, it was a surprise—I afterwards met the prisoners and went with them and Isaac Potter into the Waterloo public-house, where we all drank together—Isaac Potter left us there, and in a quarter of an hour the police came and took me—I do not know that Potter had gone to Seething Lane Station—he did not ask me the day before to bring these two men into that public-house—the other public-house is the Beehive—before I gave information I found I was likely to get into trouble, I did not do it till they were in custody—I would have given evidence if the police had not taken them—Isaac Potter did not ask me a little time ago to help him in a 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. job, a van robbery—Dowse took me in custody—I did not say at the Mansion House "I was taken by Dowse to the station, he spoke to me on the way to the station and I spoke to him of this"—he was called after me at the Mansion House, and I heard him say that he never said a word to me or I to him—that is correct.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Renshaw is a carman in Sedgeley's empolyment, half a mile from Mr. Potter's—they go to the same wharf in Thames Street—carmen often wait two or three hours for their turn on a wharf, and that is how I knew Renshaw—James suggested I should go into a coffee house, and the van should disappear, but I had not agreed to let it be taken while I was in Miles Lane.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-197" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE RENSHAW</persName> </hi>. I live at 14, George Street, Commercial Road—I was a carman to Mr. Sedgeley—I know Connor by name and James by sight—on 28th October, about one o'clock, I was driving a van near the King William statue, and saw Connor driving Mr. Potter's van, which was loaded, and James running behind, who threatened me with his fist as he passed—they were coming from Eastcheap—I saw the case in the paper on 10th December, and spoke to Mr. Potter, but before that, on a Wednesday night, when the prisoners were remanded a second time, a man whose name I do not know, gave me 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I did not know then what it was for, but I did afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I know this was October 28th, as I put down the day of the month on paper—I have not got it here—I thought some one had stolen Mr. Potter's van, but I did not tell a policeman—the man who gave me the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. gave me two drops of whisky—he came to my house—it was the day after the second remand—I took the money not to give in
<lb/>formation to Mr. Potter, and having taken it I told him directly—the road by the Statue was clear at this time—I saw Mason on October 29th—I was not about with him—I did not go to any place of entertainment</p>
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<p>with him—I am certain I never went to the Standard Theatre with him—I was there after the Lord Mayor's show—Mason treated me to the theatre once—he has never given me money only to pay for myself—he did not give me half a sovereign between October 28th and November 17th—he gave me 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to go to the Standard—it is not true that I paid for my seat and he paid for his—he gave me 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and I paid for it out of that and not out of my own pocket—I never saw Mason before I gave my evidence—I was put of work when I called on Mr. Potter—I was old man at Sedgeley's—I was with Mr. Stone a week—they did not say at one place where I was that some condensed milk had gone wrong or that a tin of it was lost or stolen—it is not true—I was never dismissed from anywhere for dishonesty.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Mr. Potter's van was a new one with hoops and steet—it went up King William Street and round the statue.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-198" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HARDING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On October 28th I received in
<lb/>formation, and on 24th November, about 11.30, I went with Dowse and Murphy to the Beehive public-house, and saw the two prisoners and Mason—I had seen them three weeks before, when the prisoners were dressed very shabbily, but at the Beehive they had new coats, hats, stock
<lb/>ings and boots—I said "What is your name?"—Connor said "Connor"—James said
<hi rend="italic">"Bob Low"</hi>—I said "I shall take you for stealiag a van and tea"—Connor said "What tea?"—I told him—James said "All right, governor, I suppose I must go"—Mason was there, and after they were charged he said "On the day of the robbery I met the two prisoners at Smith's wharf; they asked me if I would lose my van, &c." (
<hi rend="italic">Repeating Mason's statement.</hi>) Connor said "I know nothing about it"—James used some vulgar expression which I could not undarstand.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known and suspected them for some time, but know nothing against them—Mason did not mention their names when he came to the station on 28th October—nothing was said about these men till November 17th—I did not see Mr. Isaac Potter at the station on the evening of November 24th—Inspector Egan was in charge then—he is not here—the prisoners were remanded once before evidence was given—during this time I and the other officers were making inquiries, and our very best culminated in putting Mason into the witness box—we took a man and a boy to the cells who could not identify the prisonea—Mr. Isaac Potter was at the Mansion House on the 9th, but not after
<lb/>wards—I heard you call for him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I heard the route down which the van went—I had not brought any person to the station who I thought could throw a light on it—the man and the boy came from Alderman Hanson's.</p>
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<interp inst="t18841215-name-199" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DOWSE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 807). I took Mason—Harding and I made an arrangement to go to the public-house from information received.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not talk to Mason on the way to the station or he to me—I swore that at the police court—I was called after Mason.</p>