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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>FOWLER, MAYOR.</p>
<p>THIRD SESSION, HELD JANUARY 7TH, 1884.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE.</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-1" type="given" value="JAMES DROVER"/>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</persName> </p>
<p>AND</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-2" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-3" type="given" value="EDWARD T. E."/>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY</persName>, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS AND SONS, 119, CHANCERY LANE,</p>
<p>Law Booksellers and Publishers.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, January 7th, 1884, and following days.</p>
<p>Including cases committed to this Court under Order in Council pursuant to the Winter Assize Act of 1879.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-4" type="given" value="ROBERT NICHOLAS"/>ROBERT NICHOLAS FOWLER</persName> </hi>, M.P.,
<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-5" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HAWKINS</persName> </hi>, one of the Justices of Her Majesty's High Court of Justice; Sir
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-6" type="given" value="ROBERT WALTER"/>ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</persName> </hi>, Knt., M.P., Sir
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-7" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS GABRIEL</persName> </hi>, Bart.,
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-8" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MCARTHUR</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P., and
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-9" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND"/>WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND COTTON</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-10" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-11" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STAPLES</persName> </hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-13" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WHITEHEAD</persName> </hi>, Esq., and
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-14" type="given" value="JAMES EDWARD"/>JAMES EDWARD GRAY</persName> </hi>, Esq., other of the Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-15" type="given" value="WILLIAM THOMAS"/>WILLIAM THOMAS CHARLEY</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., D.C.L., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-16" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court: Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol Delivery, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-17" type="given" value="PHINEAS"/>PHINEAS COWAN</persName> </hi>, Lieut.-Col.,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOWLER, MAYOR. THIRD SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star.</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—a dagger</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAM</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Sharp and Thompson
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Sharp—on 9th November I was present at the adjourned hearing of those summonses—on that occasion the de
<lb/>fendant, Frederick Whisker, was called as a witness for the then defendant Sharp—I administered the oath to him—he was examined by Mr. Haynes, the solicitor who appeared for Sharp, and his evidence was taken down by Mr. Halle, the clerk, and afterwards read over to him—the Magistrate asked him if it was all true that he had said, and he said "Yes."</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-23" type="given" value="AUGUSTUS"/>AUGUSTUS HALLE</persName> </hi>. I am second clerk at Hammersmith Police-court—on 2nd November I was present when Mr. Paget, the Magistrate, was Biting—the summons of Thompson
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Sharp was first called on—these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are the summonses of English
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Sharp and Thompson
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Sharp—I took notes of the evidence—after Thompson v. Sharp was heard, the case of English
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Sharp was gone into—the prisoner was called as a wit
<lb/>ness on behalf of Sharp—this is what he swore. (
<hi rend="italic">Read:.</hi> "I was on my beat on 23rd October, near the Askew Arms. I heard something, not the constable's whistle, and went to the Princess Victoria. I saw a lot of men at the public-house, and some one said 'Look out, Jim, here is another one of these puppies coming.' Another constable was on the other side. I was on the south side of the Uxbridge Road. I arrived before the complainant fell down. I crossed over. I found the com
<lb/>plainant and the constable there. The constable said the man had been making a great disturbance, and using abusive language towards him. I then asked the complainant to go away. On doing so he fell back on</p>
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<p>his hands. I suggested to take him to the station. He crossed over to the other men, and went into the public-house. The constable did not in any way strike this man. The complainant was walking backwards. When I went up he was using abusive language. I did not lock him up, because the other constable did not seem disposed to. "
<hi rend="italic">By the Magistrate.</hi> "I came from the Askew Arms down Uxbridge Road, and on the other side.") That was all the evidence given on that occasion—the hearing was adjourned to the 9th October—the prisoner was again called and sworn—to the best of my recollection the evidence he had given on the 2nd was read to him again, and he added something, which Mr. Paget took down—Sharp was convicted in both cases, and had one month on each.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Both summonses were heard before Mr. Paget pro
<lb/>nounced his judgment—Whisker only gave evidence in one case, that was the charge of assault on English.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-24" type="given" value="PHYLLIS"/>PHYLLIS THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Sandell Thompson, who is in the employ of the Public Record Office—I live with him at 7, Askew Terrace, Shepherd's Bush—on Tuesday night, 23rd October, I was in the Uxbridge Road, near St. Luke's Church—I saw on the opposite side of the road a police-constable, who I have since ascertained to be Sharp—he spoke to me, and followed me, and committed an assault on me, in con
<lb/>sequence of which I went on to the Victoria public-house—this was about 20 minutes to 12—I was waiting for my husband—Sharp followed me to the Victoria—I spoke to an omnibus conductor of the name of English, who I knew by sight by travelling in his'
<hi rend="italic">bus.</hi>—at that time Sharp was standing at the corner—English was perfectly sober—he went across to Sharp—there was no other person there at the time; other people came up afterwards—English said to Sharp "I know this lady; she is a respectable married woman; what did you want to have anything to to say to her for?"—Sharp told him that he was drunk, and that he would take him to the station if he did not go away—he then knocked him down—I saw him do it—he struck out at him, and he fell—at that time the prisoner was not present—English got up and crossed over to where I was standing—Sharp went into the middle of the road and whistled—I then saw the prisoner cross the Victoria Road—Sharp told English that he would make him lose his badge—English said he could not do it by fair means, and he said "Well, if we cannot do it by fair means we will by foul"—they then walked away together—it is not true that English fell down in the presence of Whisker—I was present all the time—I left English standing near the public-house, and I went home—I afterwards went to the station and made a complaint—that was about 20 minutes past 1—my husband went with me—he was at home when I got home—the station was about 20 minutes' walk from our house—I was present at the Hammersmith Police-court on the hearing of the summons that was taken out by me against Sharp for the assault, and also at the hearing of the summons taken out by English—I heard the prisoner examined for the defence of Sharp—it is not true that Sharp did not hit English, or that English was drunk and using abusive language—I took Sharp's number at the corner of Askew Crescent.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The Princess Victoria lies a little way back out of the Uxbridge Road, the' busses stop in front of it—there is a letter-box at the corner of Victoria Road—I saw a plan similar to this</p>
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<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) at the police-court. (
<hi rend="italic">The witness pointed out on the plan the place where English was knocked down and the position in which the different persons were.</hi>) I was greatly excited and agitated by what Sharp had said to me—I was crying, and was rather ruffled—the prisoner was not standing by the Victoria at the time I spoke to English—Sharp was not going down the Uxbridge Road on his beat when English followed him—I heard nearly everything that passed between them—I should not like to say that I heard everything that passed—when Sharp knocked English down there was no one near, there was some one coming along, there were three people standing outside the Victoria—the postman went by and one of the bus drivers—the letter box was in a wall by a garden—I did not say before the Magistrate that immediately after English was knocked down the defendant came across the Uxbridge Road to Sharp—Sharp whistled, and then the defendant came up—he passed by me, coming from the direction of Askew Crescent.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The whistle was not till after English had been knocked down—the public-house was open at the time, the gas was alight—I don't think the whistle was with an instrument.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-25" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ENGLISH</persName> </hi>. I live at Shepherd's Bush—I am a conductor in the service of the London General Omnibus Company—on Tuesday night, 23rd October, I came with my omnibus to the Princess Victoria; it was my last journey, I got there about 25 minutes to 12 o'clock—I went into the public-house leaving, the driver Weaver on the omnibus—we have a room at the public-house in which we keep our coats and things—I took mine inside, I only remained inside about a minute or two, I had nothing to drink then; I came out, I saw Mrs. Thompson crying—she made a complaint to me and pointed out constable Sharp—he was standing on the pavement at the corner—I know Mrs. Thompson as a passenger by my omnibus—I went up to Sharp and spoke to him about interfering with her—he told me to mind my own business—I told him it was my business to interfere—he said we were a lot of b——drunken' bus-men and he would lock me up—I asked him what he was going to lock me up for—he crossed the road—I said "I will go to the station if you want to lock me up"—he then turned round, struck me in the chest, and knocked me down—I said "Look what he has done"—other people were present at the time, there was no other constable present—when I came out of the house I am quite sure the prisoner was not there—I got up—Sharp went on two or three steps and whistled—the prisoner came up afterwards, I do not know from what direction he came—I did not use any abusive language to Sharp either before the prisoner came up or afterwards—I was wearing my badge at the time and I had my bag of money by my side—Sharp and the prisoner walked away together—I went back to Mrs. Thompson and told her to go home—I did not see the letter-carrier—after Mrs. Thompson had gone away I went into the public-house and had some drink—I waited there some little time talking about it—I then went to the office with my money bag and afterwards went to Hammersmith Police-station; it was about two miles off—Weaver went with me—we went in a cab—I saw the acting sergeant there—that was about 20 minutes past 1 o'clock—I made a complaint to him—I afterwards took out a summons at the police-court—I was sober when I got to the station—we went back in the cab—I gave evidence for Mrs. Thompson and also on my own behalf before Mr. Paget.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The only drink I had after I was knocked down was two half-pints—that would not affect me—Sergeant Crampton was on duty at the station—I did not hear him swear at the police-court that I was under the influence of drink, I was not in Court at the time; if he said so it is not true, I was excited and annoyed—I thought I was very ill-treated—the prisoner did not say anything to me—I did not complain to him that Sharp had ill-treated me—Sharp was not going away on his beat when I followed him, I was annoyed at the language he used to me—I never use bad language; very seldom, perhaps I might sometimes, I never make use of beastly language—I was once summoned by the police for loitering and fined a shilling—I produce my summons—I did not see the prisoner the moment I got up from the ground, it was a minute or two after—I lay there for a minute or two, I was not stunned by the blow, I laid there because I was surprised the man should knock me down—he struck me in the chest—after I got up I saw the prisoner; I had nearly got back across the road when I saw him—I got to the Princess Victoria and waited there for a minute—when I saw him he was just coming up alongside of Sharp—he came from the direction of Victoria Road way—I did not see two women there, or a letter-carrier—the prisoner might have been there and I not see him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> At the time I was knocked down the prisoner was not there, he was not within sight—I suppose he was in uniform—it was in the dark.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-26" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS WEAVER</persName> </hi>. I am an omnibus driver in the service of the London and General Omnibus Company—on Tuesday night, 23rd October, about 11.40, I was with my omnibus outside the Princess Victoria—English was my conductor—we had just finished our last journey—he was quite sober—I saw Mrs. Thompson there; she complained to me—I was then on the pavement taking my clothes into the house—I saw the constable Sharp at the corner of the Victoria public-house some few paces from me—English came out of the house and he went and spoke to Sharp—I was standing by the Victoria with two other' bus-men, Bennett and Soden, and Mrs. Thompson—I didn't hear Sharp say any
<lb/>thing—he walked across the road and English followed him—I was standing talking to Mrs. Thompson and the two bus-men when I heard English say "See what he has done to me"—I looked round and saw him on the ground—Sharp was the only constable there at the time; the prisoner was not there till afterwards—I went up to Sharp and said "What did you do that for?"—didn't hear him say anything—English came across the road and joined us at the corner of the Victoria—the prisoner came up from the Uxbridge Road on the off side of my' bus and joined Sharp—that was after English had been knocked down—Sharp and the prisoner walked up the road towards London—I took my omnibus home and put it iu the yard; that was 300 or 400 yards off—some time afterwards English and I went to the police-station and complained to the sergeant ou duty of what had taken place—he was sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We had started from Ludgate Circus; we had not sopped at any house on our way back—English never got down to have anything; I never saw him do so—I saw a letter-carrier about two minutes after English was knocked down—I didn't look across the road till English was knocked down—I didn't say before the Magistrate' that Sharp knocked him down; I said "I don't know who knocked him down,</p>
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<p>but I saw him on the ground"—I didn't a peak to the prisoner at all—I didn't see a woman there—I saw no woman but Mrs. Thompson—I heard no whistle.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-27" type="given" value="LEWIN"/>LEWIN FENNER</persName> </hi>. I am a letter-carrier and live at Shepherd's Bush—on 23rd October, about 11.40, I was coming along the Victoria Road, and was going to empty the letter-box at the corner—I came along the Victoria Road towards the Uxbridge Road—I saw Sharp and English—I saw Sharp knock English down—he hit him from the shoulder with his right hand, and he fell on his back on the pavement—I was about 10 yards from him—I passed by; English was then on the ground—he said to me "Look here, postman, what he has done"—at that time there was no other constable there—I went and emptied the letter-box and returned the same way—at that time English had got back to the side of the road by the public-house—Sharp was still standing in the same position—the prisoner was not there then—I saw him come up afterwards—I didn't see from what direction he came, but he must have come from the Uxbridge Road way—I didn't hear English use abusive language—I heard Sharp say "I will have your number off you," or something to that effect—the prisoner was there at that time—I know nothing of any of the parties.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am sure the prisoner was not there when English was knocked down—he might have been there and I not see him—I was going to get my letters—the road is very narrow; you can see on both sides—I took out my letters after the blow was given—I am positive the prisoner was not standing with Sharp at that time—I saw him afterwards standing with Sharp—I don't know how long he had been there; it was all over then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-28" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BENNETT</persName> </hi>. I am an omnibus driver—on Tuesday night, 23rd October, about 11.40, I was at the Princess Victoria—I saw English, Weaver, and Mrs. Thompson there—she was crying—she spoke to Weaver; I heard her complaining—I heard English tell Sharp that she was a respectable lady—English was sober—he didn't use any bad language—Sharp said to him "You are drunk"—English said if he was drunk he would make him take him up, and he wanted to know the nearest police-station—English was on the ground; I don't how he came there, I didn't see him knocked down—I heard him say "Look what he has done; he has knocked me down and hit me on the right side"—I was going over to the other side of the' bus—English was then on his feet; he had got up, he was on the pavement close to where he was knocked down—Sharp went into the middle of the road and whistled, and the prisoner came up—I didn't hear him say anything—I saw the postman there—the prisoner went and spoke to Sharp and he pushed me off the pavement and said "Don't interfere with the police on their duty," and he went away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The moment I heard English say "Look what he has done to me," I was going over; he was just up on his feet—as I was going into the middle of the road the prisoner drew my attention by his bull's-eye at the other side of the 'bus; how long he had been there I don't know—it was about 200 yards from where English was knocked down to the omnibus—I was not called at the police-court—after English had been knocked down I told him to come away, that the lady's husband would take it up in the morning—we went into the public-house to
<lb/>gether, and spoke together—I didn't notice the direction from which the prisoner came.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-29" type="surname" value="SODEN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-29" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SODEN</persName> </hi>. I am an omnibus conductor; Bennett is my driver—I was at the Princess Victoria on this Tuesday night, the 23rd October—I heard English call out—I went out shortly after, and saw Mrs. Thomp
<lb/>son here and Sharp—English was standing outside the Victoria—I heard him talking—I didn't hear what he said—shortly afterwards I heard English call out "Look what he has done; he has knocked me down"—I didn't see him knocked down, I looked and saw he was down—Sharp was close to him—English was up when I went across the road—I heard a whistle after that, and I saw the prisoner come up—English was sober—I didn't see any woman there but Mrs. Thompson.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was not examined at the police-court—I didn't know that I had to appear till I had my subpoena—I didn't see any blows given—I saw a letter-carrier—it might have been a minute or two after hearing the whistle that I saw the prisoner—the road is about ten yards wide.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-30" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-30" type="surname" value="CRAMPTON"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-30" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CRAMPTON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T.</hi> 52). I am stationed at Hammer
<lb/>smith Police-station—Sharp was on fixed point duty near the Princess Victoria from 5 o'clock in the evening till 1 o'clock in the morning, in uniform—Whisker was on duty that night in uniform; his beat came round a portion of Sharp's; it ends at the corner of Victoria Road by the Princess Victoria—I was at the station on this night—about 12.45 English came there and made a complaint; Weaver came in afterwards—I told him what he was to do about taking out a summons—he was in the station about five minutes—he was under the influence of drink; he was not drunk; he was not excited—I put it down to being under the influence of drink—he could walk well, as far as I could see; he talked scarcely intelligibly—I referred him to the police-court—about a quarter of an hour after English had left Mr. and Mrs. Thompson came and complained about Sharp—I told Mrs. Thompson to write a statement—she did so—this is her statement—before they left Sharp came in; about 1.15—she identified Sharp as the man who had insulted her—I told him the purport of Mrs. Thompson's statement, and he wrote out this report—I did not see Whisker till the following night; both the men were under me as sergeant for that night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I only had authority over them for that night—I have been eleven years in the force; I have risen from the ranks—I can tell whether a man is under the influence of drink or not—I have seen a good deal of it—in my opinion English had been drinking.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The following Witnesses were called for the Defence:.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-31" type="given" value="RACHEL"/>RACHEL LEWIS</persName> </hi>. I live at 5, Victoria Road, Uxbridge Road—my mother is a laundress—on Tuesday night, 23rd October, I had been out to collect some money for my mother, and between 11.30 and 12 o'clock I was coming along the Uxbridge Road from the direction of Westbourne Park; when I got near the corner of Victoria Road, facing the Princess Victoria, I saw Mrs. Thompson talking to some' bus-men—I saw one of them, English, leave the group and go towards the constable Sharp—English was very excited; he was shouting at the top of his voice, and by his actions I should judge he was under the influence of drink—he said to Sharp "Come on, I have been longing to have a go at some of you b——
<hi rend="italic">coppers.</hi>—Sharp at that time was in the act of turning to go across to Victoria Road; he turned round to face him, and English walked back
<lb/>wards,</p>
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<p>Sharp facing him, and as he was walking backwards it appeared as if he stumbled up against something and fell down—I was about ten yards off—I did not see any actual push; I saw him fall—as he was ad
<lb/>vancing towards Sharp the second constable came up behind from the direction of Askew Crescent; that was before he fell—I am quite sure about that—he was about two yards behind him—I went to the police-court on the day the prisoner was committed for trial—I had seen the solicitor, Mr. Haynes, before that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I live with my mother—I went to the police-court three times—Sharp was convicted before I went; it was on a Wednesday that I went when the prisoner was charged with perjury—I offered to go down for Whisker—I told one of the constables on the Sunday night when I was out; he told me that the second man was charged with per
<lb/>jury, and I said "Then I will go down for him as a witness, for I was there"—it was a constable named Allen, who I knew, that told me—I have known him about a year; not walking with him or chatting with him—I knew him to speak to about three times—it was some night after Sharp had been convicted that I spoke to him in the street—I asked him "Is it true that the constable Sharp is convicted?"—I only knew Sharp's name by seeing it in the newspaper—I had seen him—I did not know him—I don't remember having spoken to him before this occurrence—I did not know him as a friend of Allen's; I had never seen him with Allen—I had seen him—I spoke to him that night as I stood at the corner—I did not know him before, or the prisoner—I did not know him by sight—I spoke to Allen first—I asked him if it was true that he was convicted—I had seen it in the paper—he said it was quite true—I had not read it in the paper; I heard some one speaking of it who had read it—when Allen spoke to me, I went to the police-court—I was not called as a witness—I went there, but was not called—I saw Mr. Haynes before I went—I made a statement to him—I saw him that morning before I went to the police-court—I was going home on this night when I saw Mrs. Thompson talking to some' bus-men—I did not see her crying; I don't know whether she was crying—I did not go over to see—I was about ten yards from them—I saw English advancing across the road towards Sharp—he fell back in the roadway—I was about ten yards from him—I did not see any blow struck—Sharp was near to him when he fell; he was within striking distance—it appeared to mo as if he stumbled and fell. (
<hi rend="italic">A statement of the prisoner's before the Magistrate was here read:.</hi> "I am innocent of what I am charged with. I reserve my defence on the advice of my solicitor. I will not call any witnesses till my trial.")</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-32" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA PAVITT</persName> </hi>. I live at 7, Morton Terrace, Greenside Road, Shepherd's Bush—I was in service as cook with Mrs. Stevens of Strathmore, 408, Uxbridge Road—Mary Ann Giblet was my fellow-servant as housemaid—on Tuesday, 23rd October, about half-past 11 or a quarter to 12, I was going with her to a chemist's shop near the Victoria—as we were return
<lb/>ing I saw a woman followed by a constable—she went towards the Vic
<lb/>toria, went up to a man, and then went on—I did not notice more than one man there—I did not hear anything that passed when she went up—we went towards home; we met the prisoner—I did not know him before—he was a short distance from where the woman had been speaking to the man, about 50 yards—I said to him, "You had better hurry on, as</p>
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<p>I think there is some jangling up there"—I said that because Sharp seemed to have been speaking rather loud to the woman—I saw Sharp turn the corner following the woman—the prisoner went on directly; I followed him back—I saw several men in the road, none of them were known to me—I saw a man fall, I did not see in what way he fell, his back was towards me—I saw the prisoner at the time the man fell, I should say he was about two yards off, he was just going up and I was close behind him—I saw the man get up again—I don't know what became of the people that were there, I did not take notice, I went home—I attended at the police-court on the occasion of the prisoner being committed for trial—I had previously seen Mr. Haynes and made a statement to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner came to my house about a week after—I had not known him before—it was on the Monday following, before Sharp had been convicted—he then asked me to go down to the police-court, and I went on 9th November—I was not called—I did not see Mr. Haynes before that; I saw his clerk and gave my statement—I did not know Sharp or Allen—the prisoner came and asked if we were the young women that he had met—when I first saw him he was, I should say, 50 yards from the Victoria—I was going towards Askew Terrace, and met him—I left Sharp and Mrs. Thompson standing against the Princess Victoria—she appeared to be crying—I returned with the prisoner because I wanted to see what it was—I was about two yards away—I did not see English knocked down, I saw him fall; I cannot say how he fell; I cannot say whether he was knocked down or not—Sharp was close to him when he fell.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-33" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN GIBLETT</persName> </hi>. I was fellow-servant as housemaid with Pivot at 408, Uxbridge Road—on Tuesday evening, 23rd October, I went with her to a chemist's shop—on returning I noticed a woman turning the corner of the Princess Victoria, a policeman following her—I heard nothing that passed—I saw the woman go up to some men as if to speak, but I did not hear her speak; we passed on and met the policeman; we had not gone more than two or three steps—Pavitt told him to hurry on as there was another policeman on farther—he hurried on—he had not more than two or three steps to go to get round the corner—I did not see what happened then; I crossed the road—I did not see English—Pavitt followed the prisoner back; she rejoined me in about five minutes, and we went home.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We told the prisoner to hurry on because we had seen the woman walk up to the men and heard some loud talking, and the constable following the woman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-34" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BATES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector T</hi>). The prisoner is a constable in my division; he has been in the force for 18 months—he came with a very high character; I always found him to be a very sober, truthful, honest young man, careful in his reports and in everything he does—he has borne an unexceptionable character; he has had no reports against him—Sharp's sentence, I believe, would expire on Saturday—he was brought here last Session for the defence—he is not here now.</p>
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<p>166.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-37" type="given" value="PERCY"/>PERCY JUDD</persName> </hi>. I am proprietor of the White Bear public-house, Bride Lane—about a quarter to 9 o'clock on the morning of 20th December the prisoner came to my house—she was drunk—she asked to be served, I refused, and told her to leave the house—she refused—I turned her out, and immediately she got outside two pieces of brick came through two of my plate glass windows—I went outside and found the prisoner in charge of my man—the damage done was between 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-38" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES COLBOURNE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Police Sergeant.</hi> 34). I was passing Bride Lane, and about 20 yards from the White Bear heard a loud crash, like the breaking of glass—I saw a man holding the prisoner by the arm out
<lb/>side the public-house—when I came up he said "I give this woman into custody for breaking our windows with these two pieces of brick"—she said "I done it, and I will do it again"—I took her by the arm; the two pieces of brick were lying on the footway; she tried to get to them, and repeated "I did it, and I will do it again"—I took her to the station—she was charged by the prosecutor, and in answer to the charge she said "Yes, I did it, and I intended it for his head," pointing to Mr. Judd—she was drunk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi>"I don't remember anything about it. I call no witnesses."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I don't remember nothing whatever about it.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January.</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi> to un
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<interp inst="t18840107-169-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> to unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-169-18840107 t18840107-169-punishment-4"/>Nine Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
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<p>170.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SARAH BISHOP</hi> (56)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Shot received a good character.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-170-18840107 t18840107-170-punishment-5"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
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<p>171.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES BOLD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">alias.</hi>
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<rs id="t18840107-alias-1" type="alias">
<join result="nameAlias" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-171-18840107 t18840107-alias-1"/>BOWLES</rs> </hi> (21)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18840107-171-punishment-6" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-171-18840107 t18840107-171-punishment-6"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude</rs>,
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<interp inst="t18840107-171-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-171-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </hi> And</p> </div1>
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<p>172.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK WEBB</hi> (17)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-172-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="mail"/> to four indictments for stealing post-office orders from post-letters, the property of Her Majesty's Postmaster-General,</rs>
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<interp inst="t18840107-172-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-172-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>and to forging and uttering receipts to the same.</rs> </p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">He received a good character.)—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-172-18840107 t18840107-172-punishment-7"/>Fifteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18840107-172-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>173.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK HAKES</hi> (32)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRSCRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I marked it and said "How</p>
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<p>many more of these have you got?"—they looked at each other, and the prisoner said "What's wrong? give it me back"—I said I should not—the other man paid with a florin, and I gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I got some one to take the bar, and they both went away quickly, one towards Ludgate Hill and the other one towards Farringdon Station—I went after the prisoner and found him in Stonecutter Street, about 100 yards from the house, and gave him in charge—I saw a boy pick up a glove which had a good half-crown in it—the prisoner said he knew nothing about it—I saw him searched and a bad half-crown taken from him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> Your mate called for the drink and paid for it—I can't say that I have seen you before, but I know the other man, and I said that he passed a bad half-crown at my house the previous Saturday.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-48" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PEPPER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman.</hi> 407). On 12th December, in the evening, I was in Farringdon Street—some one called my attention to the prisoner, who was in Stonecutter Street, near the market—I went up to him with Nash—he saw me coming and walked towards me, and I saw him drop this glove behind him—I said "You have been in Mr. Nash's house, and you with another man have passed a bad half-crown"—he said "Yes, I went into the house, but I didn't pass the bad half-crown, the other man might have"—I went towards the boy Wells—he picked up a glove and handed it to me; it contained a good half-crown—I took him back to Mr. Nash, who said he didn't know the other man—I searched him at the station and found this bad half-crown in his waist
<lb/>coat pocket, and a purse containing seven shillings, a sixpence, and 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze, and a bundle of pipe-lighters.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was about 6.15 o'clock—you didn't attempt to run away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-49" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WELLS</persName> </hi>. I am a railway van guard—on 12th December, about 6.15 p.m., I was in Farringdon Street and saw Pepper and the prisoner—the prisoner dropped a glove behind him—I picked it up and gave it to Pepper—it contained a half-crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was standing outside the public-house and was told to look for a policeman, but I could not find one—I saw you come out, you did not walk very fast, you had your hands in your pockets.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-50" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am examiner of coins to Her Majesty's Mint—the coin tendered and the one found on the prisoner are both bad—the one in the glove is good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi>"I did not utter the counterfeit coin to Nash; I was there at the time."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I did not utter it. I was in the house with a man who has made me his dupe. He asked me for change for a half-sovereign, and I gave him four half-crowns. He gave me one back, which turned out to be bad, and I naturally said, "Let me look at it." I saw the policeman coming and walked towards him, but I had not passed any
<lb/>thing; it is not likely that I should throw away a half-crown.</p>
<p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">He then.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction at this Court in February, 1883, of unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.—
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<p>174.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>Euston Road—the prisoner came there for some tobacco on 27th Decem
<lb/>ber, and put down a florin—I tried it with my teeth, and he matched it from me and said "Give it to me, I know where I got it from," and went out with it without his change, leaving the tobacco on the counter—I saw him at Clerken well Police-court on December 26 with two others and picked him out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-54" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MORGAN</persName> </hi>. My wife showed me this half-crown, and I said to the prisoner "Where did you get it from?"—he said "I got it for my days work; you are not going to give me in charge?"—I said "Yes," and I did so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-55" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MOORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). I received charge of the prisoner, and said "Where did you get the half-crown from?—he said "I got it for my day's work"—he said at the station "A gentleman gave me this for holding his horse in Westminster Bridge Road."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-56" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a bad half-crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> If I had snatched a counterfeit coin out of her hand, do you think I would go in again afterwards? I am not guilty of the florin, and I did not know the half-crown was bad.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of uttering the half-crown.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-174-18840107 t18840107-174-punishment-9"/>Six Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>175.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-58" type="given" value="JANE ANN"/>JANE ANN MILLER</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid to Mr. White, at the Falcon—on the night of 17th December I served the prisoner with a pint of beer—he gave me a florin—I put it in the tester, and found it was bad, and Mr. White gave him in custody—a woman was with him—she was taken to the station and discharged—I did not give him change.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-59" type="given" value="GEORGE JOHN"/>GEORGE JOHN WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Falcon—on 17th December I saw the prisoner come in with a woman; he ordered a pint of stout and mild ale, which came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave Miller a florin, which she showed me—I found it was bad, and marked it, and said "I shall give you in custody for attempting to utter this coin"—he said something about a pawnbroker—he paid with a good shilling, and said "Don't lock me up."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I saw a pawn-ticket at the station, but not close enough to see whether it was dated that day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-60" type="surname" value="MARKWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-60" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MARKWELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman C.</hi> 165). I was called, and Mr. White said "I give this man in custody for passing counterfeit coin"—the prisoner said "I got it from a pawnbroker"—I searched him, and found a good sixpence and a penny—he said "I should not have done it if I had not been on the
<hi rend="italic">boose</hi> all day"—I took these two duplicates from him from Mr. Cloud, of Holborn.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You told me you had pledged your boots—I went to your address and to the pawnbroker's, who did not know what coin he gave you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-61" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a bad florin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner, in his defence, stated that he got the coin at a pawnbroker's, and received no other money that day.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-175-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>176.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY JAMES</hi> (34)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-63" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-63" type="surname" value="LANGRISH"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-63" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LANGRISH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector E</hi>). On 29th December, about 2 p.m., I was with Kenna in Drury Lane, and saw the prisoner with James Bold (
<hi rend="italic">See page.</hi> 301) and another man—Kenna took two of them, but one got away—I secured James, searched him, and found 10 counterfeit half-crowns in the tail pocket of his overcoat, wrapped separately in tissue paper—I said "These are counterfeit"—he said "Somebody must have put them into my pocket"—we had kept observation on them for some days—nothing was found on the other man, and he was let go.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I know the Rum Puncheon—persons who have been convicted of coining use the house—I saw Boules hand you something at the public-house door—I only come to the conclusion that you are a coiner because you were in company with Boules.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-64" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-64" type="surname" value="KENNA"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-64" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH KENNA</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective E</hi>). I was with Langrish; I seized the prisoner and another man; the prisoner slipped from my grasp and Langrish caught him—he pulled me very violently—I saw him searched and the coin found on him—I took the other man to the station; no bad coin was found on him and we let him go—I had been watching the prisoner because I saw him with Bowles and saw Bowles hand him some
<lb/>thing at the Rum Puncheon door, and he went away with the man I took with him—they were walking together and I caught them round their necks.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have seen so many men at the Bum Puncheon dealing with Bowles that I cannot think of the cases—I only came to the conclusion that you were a coiner as you were in Bowles's company.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-65" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-65" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-65" type="surname" value="PARTRIDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-65" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS PARTRIDGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant</hi>). I was with Langrish and Kenna keeping observation on the Rum Puncheon public-house—I saw the prisoner and another man go in and come out again; they stood in the street a few minutes; Bowles came down some steps and they went to the public-house, and Bowles handed the prisoner something—I knew him as Bowles, but he gave his name Bold—the prisoner walked towards Parker Street, and Langridge and Kenna followed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-66" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-66" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These ten half-crowns are bad; five are from one mould and five from another.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner called.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-67" type="surname" value="BOWLES"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-67" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BOWLES</persName> </hi>. I have pleaded guilty to felonionsly possessing counterfeit coin—I did not hand you a packet outside the Rum Puncheon last Saturday week; you were not in my company.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I do not know how I came by these coins; some
<lb/>body must have put them in my pocket; this is a house which coiners use, and they say they do not know me as a coiner. McKenna put his arm round my neck and I struggled to get away. If these coiners knew that the officers were outside they would be afraid to go out and they would drop the coins into my pocket. I never spoke to Bowles in my life, and never knew him till this morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-176-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-176-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>**.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-176-18840107 t18840107-176-punishment-10"/>Two Years' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January.</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<p>177.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM BROWN</hi> (24)</persName> was indicted
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-177-offence-1 t18840107-name-69"/>Thomas Jones</persName>. He was also charged on the Coroner's Inquisition with the manslaughter of the same person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAM</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-70" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-70" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH CUTLER</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Red Lion public-house, Old Street, St. Luke's—on Saturday evening, 22nd December, about 8.25, Thomas Jones and four or five others were drinking in our bar—the prisoner came in and had some beer and remained about half an hour—there was a dispute about paying for some drink—Jones said something to the prisoner which I did not hear—the prisoner called him a f----liar—Jones called him a liar—the prisoner had a walking stick in his hand and he struck at Jones with it—somebody knocked the stick down, and he did it a second time and the ferrule end of the stick went into Jones's eye and he fell down insensible—I can't say exactly how the prisoner's hand was, it looked like a thrust; Jones's eye bled very much—the landlord fetched a doctor, and he was taken to Bartholomew's Hospital—the police came and took the prisoner into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We have six compartments, and three of us to attend to them—there were about 20 people there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">At the conclusion of the evidence for the prosecution.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">stated that he should not ask the Jury to give a higher verdict than one of manslaughter.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BURNIE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">thereupon said he should not resist a verdict of manslaughter.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of manslaughter.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-177-18840107 t18840107-177-punishment-11"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January.</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1384.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<p>178.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES FREDERICK SHAW KENNEDY</hi> </persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-178-offence-1 t18840107-name-72"/>John Shaw Kennedy</persName>.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-178-18840107 t18840107-178-punishment-12"/>To enter into his own recognisances to appear and receive judgment if called on.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>179.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS WINTER</hi> (36)</persName>
<rs id="t18840107-179-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-179-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-74" type="surname" value="CANTLE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-74" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>William Cantle</persName> and others to defraud the
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-75" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-179-offence-1 t18840107-name-75"/>Army and Navy Co-operative Stores</persName>, his masters, and falsifying certain books and papers, with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GULTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GOODRICH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-76" type="surname" value="BRENNAN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-76" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRENNAN</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to the housekeeper at the Stores—on 30th August I purchased half a pound of butter in the provision department, of a counterman named Matthews—I paid the money and took the bill to the prisoner and said, "Will you kindly initial it?"—these are his initials under the amount—Sergeant Jupe was present.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I live at the depot in James Street close to the Stores—I am the son of a police superintendent—I am well known all over the Stores, and I can get goods there the same as other customers—the prisoner initialed the invoice in the ordinary way—the cashier took my money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-77" type="surname" value="LAMB"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-77" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES LAMB</persName> </hi>. I live at 8, Vauxhall Bridge Road, Pimlico—I entered the service of the Stores on 29th June, 1876—I was a counterman</p>
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<p>in the grocery department—I remained there till 7th July, 1882, when I was discharged for being absent without permission—in May, 1883, I entered the service of Mr. Whiteley, of Westbourne Grove, and continued there till September, 1883, when Mr. Whiteley discharged me in consequence of my name appearing in the papers in connection with this matter—since then I have been in the receipt of subsistence money from the Directors—I recollect the prisoner coming to the Stores in 1878 as a counterman in the grocery department; he remained till July, 1879—about the beginning of the year we were standing side by side when a lady came to me with an order—I asked her if I should take the bill for her to the desk—she said "Thank you"—I did not go to the desk or pay the money—the prisoner saw it in my hand and said "Halves, Charlie"—the ordinary course is for the customer to pay—I did not stamp the order, I kept it—the bills were kept at that time—I halved the amount afterwards—that went on from 1878 through 1879—we assisted one another; while one was going with the money pretending to pay it, the other would engage the customer in conversation—the prisoner and I divided 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week; more than 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. altogether.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I do not think I have stated before that the arrange
<lb/>ment for one to hold the customer's attention while the other paid the bill existed before 1879—Deaks was employed there in July, 1882—he is married, and has one child—he was ill, and was receiving an allow, ance during his illness—I was entrusted with 22
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to take to him—I kept it back, intending to repay it—I was in great trouble at the time—it was discovered next day—I had been discharged before that—Rhodes was taken in custody as early as in November, 1882, I think four or five months after I was discharged—I saw his case in the papers—he pleaded guilty at the Middlesex Sessions—I didn't then give any information to the Stores—I was out of a situation then—I knew of Cantle, Wind us, and others being in custody in May, 1883, and while they were in custody and before they were tried I made a communication to Mr. Alchurch about keeping the customers in conversation and keeping the money and dividing it—he came to me—I wrote a letter, but I did not disclose anything to him; I arranged to go down to Mr. Dutton's the same evening—the interview took place outside Mr. Whiteley's shop—I went to Mr. Dutton's five or six times—what I said was written down, and I signed it—I only implicated Winter—I had had no quarrel with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-78" type="surname" value="HEWITT"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-78" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HEWITT</persName> </hi>. I am assistant manager in the grocery department at the Stores—the prisoner entered the employment in 1878, and was placed as a counterman under me; he and Lamb were placed at the same counter, side by side—that continued till July, 1879, when the prisoner was promoted to be a shop walker—if any alteration had to be made in the cash book he would bring the book and the bill to my desk, and ask me to initial the alteration; I should first satisfy myself that the alteration was genuine—the assistants then were Pugh, Pass more, Lavender, and Harcourt, or Short, who succeeded Pugh—that covered 1882—in May, 1881, I gave a general order, finding that the shop walkers were initialling alterations, that when any alteration was to be made it was to be brought to me or to my assistants inside the desk—on 27th April, 1882, 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. has been altered to 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and initialled; the initials are not mine, and to the best of my belief they are Winter's—on</p>
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<p>1st May here is "Davidson, 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," altered to 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., initialled to the best of my belief by Winter, and an entry in the name of Catton in May is initialled in the same way, to the best of my belief by Winter—on 6th May here is "Lee, 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." altered to 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., initialled to the best of my belief by Winter—15th May, "Tracey, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." is altered to 9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and on 19th May "Lane, 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>." is altered to 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—31st August, "Rowney, 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." is altered to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—14th October, "Campbell, 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>." is altered to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—1st November, "Parker, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." is altered to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—these are all initialled in the same way by Winter—I only know the books by the numbers—No. 3 was, I believe, Cantle's book—the bill was brought to the check clerk, who has to enter the amount, and when the cash book is examined at night, it would have to correspond with the check book, and if there is any alteration they would both be initialed—here is the name of Raleigh, 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; that is altered to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., but not initialled, and "Lee, 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," no alteration and no initial—"Davidson, 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." is not altered—"Cotton, May 5, 1882," is altered from 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and initialled by the prisoner, as I believe—in the entry of They on 15th May, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. has been scratched out and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. Substituted—"Law," on 9th May, 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., has no alteration—Rooney, on 31st August, has been altered from 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and initialled in the same way, I believe by Winter—"Housman," on 13th September, has been altered from 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and initialled in the same way—"Camp
<lb/>bell, 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," on 14th October, has no alteration and no initial—"Parker, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," on 1st November, has been altered to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and initialled in the same way, I believe by Winter.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The first of these 10 cases of initialling in point of date is "Raleigh, 27th April, 1882"—in April, 1882, we kept five or six clerks in the grocery department to write orders for customers—they were provided with books and carbonised paper for writing in duplicate; it was done in triplicate at one time in the provision room, but not in the grocery—in 1879, '80, '81, and '82, they were not written in tripli
<lb/>cate, but most of the customers wrote their own orders—the provision room is part of the grocery department—the man at the counter who makes up the goods files the order which he makes them up from—the customer would take away the order if it was written for him, but if he made it out himself he would not—I think we had as many as 40 hands behind the counter in the grocery department, and including the pro
<lb/>vision department; about 180 porters, packers, and clerks—the public would only see 30 or 40—the counterman would not file one order and initial the other, but the bill would be paid before he would be allowed to make up the goods; it would not be given to him till it was stamped "Paid"—it is not a perforating stamp, they have to stamp both bills—in April, 1882, there were two check clerks, one each side of the cashier; the amount of business done is very large, and a cashier would easily take 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but sometimes not 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; bills are sometimes Very small, and sometimes very heavy—the check-clerk would write the number of the ticket and name and the amount—we do not allow anybody to buy unless have a ticket—Mr. Raleigh's number was 32410—we keep a record ✗ addresses, of new members, and of the persons introducing them—I ✗ written correctly in book D—Cottle was check-clerk then—✗emoer that we prosecuted him; I don't think so—I have only ✗ Court in this case—I have attended twice—I have no impu
<lb/>tation</p>
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<p>to make against Cattle; I don't know him—after the close of the day the total money in the cashier's hands is set out in his book, and the chief cashier, Mr. Yeldham, compares the amount in the cashier's book with the check clerk's book—Cantle's book agrees with Cottle's book at the end of the day on 27th April—Davidson's account, which was originally entered 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., is 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the check clerk's book—the system is for the check clerk to pass the bills to the cashier, who takes the money; anybody who saw a violation of that system is bound to report it—the prisoner should report it—there was another shop-walker in the same room—this is Mear's book—he has been convicted and sentenced—the original entry in Cantle's book of 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is initialed by Winter—I find that Cantle was 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. wrong in the addition, and here is "Cash over, 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—the next is "Lea, 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—in the check clerk's book is 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in red ink—the altered entry is in Cattle's writing—Cantle's book is altered, and initialled with reference to Lea, and at the end of the day I find the total amount of cash was passed by Mr. Yeldham, with the entry, "Cash short, 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I don't know whose initials these are—Mears was the check clerk on May 5th; his entry as to Cotton is the lesser sum—both have been altered, and both initialled by Winter—2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is scratched through, and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. put underneath—this is Cantle's book—the cash at the end of the day, 74
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., agrees in both books—they cast the books themselves—in Cantle's book on May 19th here is an entry, "Lawes, 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." which has been altered by the 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. Being struck out; and the entry in the check clerk's book is 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., in Mear's writing—55
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was the total at the end of the day—the next altera
<lb/>tion is "Rooney, 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," in Cattle's writing, which is altered to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—these are my initials underneath, but I have no recollection of putting them there, or of seeing the erasure—I did not see it till the book was brought to me on the last trial—I have made no inquiries to find out who did it—Winter has initialled the 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in both books—in Cantle's book, on September 13th, there is "Houston, 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," which has been altered to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—Marriott was the check clerk—he has been convicted and sentenced—they would compare the summaries at the end of the day, and the amounts are the same, 73
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I cannot say whose the initialling is—here is in Marriott's book "Parker, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—they have both been altered and both initialled in the same way—the other book is Cantle's—the cash agrees at the end of the day after those alterations are made—the books at the end of the day would go into the hands of a superior person, who would take the cash—I can
<lb/>not swear whether there are more than these 10 instances, as I have not been through the books.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have only been through the books as to this case—on 15th May "Terry, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," has been altered to "9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.;" and on 31st August "Rooney, 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," is altered to "2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," and initialed by Winter, and there is a case which I have initialled, but I feel certain the alteration was not there at the time, because it would have attracted my attention after my giving orders—I know of my own knowledge that Mears and Marriott have been convicted of offences against the Store✗ don't know Cantle.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. The customer would go to a clerk in the Store ✗ the order for him—it would be written out and given to him✗ would go first to the check clerk, who would see that the add✗</p>
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<p>right and stamp and number it—the customer would then go to the next window to the cashier, who would enter the amount and the number in his book, so that both books would correspond in amount and number—the cashier has a check clerk on each side of him, and the two books would always tally supposing there was no fraud, and the amount paid by the customer would be accounted for at 6 o'clock—the check clerk being on each side of the cashier, no fraud could take place except by agreement with the cashier to pass a false account.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-79" type="surname" value="CANTLE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-79" type="given" value="JOHN WILLIAM"/>JOHN WILLIAM CANTLE</persName> </hi>. I am a prisoner in the House of Detention—I have pleaded guilty to a variety of frauds at the Stores—I entered their service in June, 1878, and continued till 30th November, 1882—during that time I was in several departments—I became acquainted with Winter in May, 1881; I met him outside the Stores and he said "Are you going over to the Albert?"—that was a public-house nearly opposite—I said "Yes," and we went there—he said "Are you going to treat me?"—I said Yes"—he said "You have done very well to-day, have not you?"—I said "Did you see the lady inquiring about the 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.?"—he said "Yes, and you ought not to mind treating me"—a lady had left a half-sovereign on my desk—he said "What sort of a fellow is your check clerk?—I said "He won't say anything about it"—he said "I can put you up to a good move"—I said "Tell me what it is?"—he said "When you get a bill get your check clerk to omit to enter it and give it to me, and I will give it to Bob Hughes, and we will share the money, and I will get the bill and destroy it" (we were all to share the money who took part in it—up to that time I had not committed any frauds in connection with falsifying the books; that was the first I heard of this system—I carried out a fraud of that kind soon afterwards)—I said "It seems right, but how do you know it will work right?"—he said "I have done it lots of times and made lots of money by it"—I said "I will see about it"—Mears and Cottle were my check clerks at that time, and Marriott came afterwards—this is my book—I find here "Raleigh, 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." altered to "2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—I used to do it in that way—I forget who suggested it—he said he would sign my book when I wanted it—he was to initial any alteration, and the accounts would pass as correct—I have seen Winter stamp bills with my stamp many times—he had no right to use it—when any alteration was made in the amount one of the foremen, He wick or Harper, should have initialled it; but if it was for a fraudulent purpose, Winter initialled it—this is Cottle's book—2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is entered on April 27, 1882; there is no alteration—he was out of his desk at the time for a few minutes—you will see that he is two numbers behind me—mine is entered 75 and his is 77, and it ought to be the same in each book—he got the entry from me—on May 1, 1882, "Davidson, 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," is altered to "10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—that was done for me to appropriate the money—that is initialled by Winter and Mean—on May 6, 1882, as to the entry of Levi, Cottle was out of his desk again—it was the last bill we took, and one of us very often went out to wash—I gave him the amount—these entries of Lane, Rooney, Houston, Campbell, and Parker were all altered in the same way, Campbell from 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., Parker from 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—we kept the difference in the majority of cases, but sometimes I had two bills and would make one do for the two—I cannot point out which was done in this case—I was indicted with Mears and Marriott for embezzlement—Windus was taken first and then Rhodes—I</p>
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<p>afterwards saw Winter at the house of a man named Strange, at Kenning
<lb/>ton Cross—I asked him if they had found out anything about me, and he told me once that they were going over my books, and he thought it was all right and they had not found out anything yet.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had one book as cashier, and that was in use the whole day except when I went to dinner, when temporary clerks would come with their books, and a temporary clerk would be placed there if a check clerk went away; it would be contrary to rules for him to go away—this is my book—I was cashier, and two check clerks sat beside me; Mears and Marriott or Cantle—I believe I was with those three nearly the whole of the time I was there, but I was with Evans and Limmon for a little time—my book was begun on 10th August by some
<lb/>body else, but my writing begins on August 15 at page 17—these are Mr. Hewitt's initials to this alteration at page 20—11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is altered to 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—of course there was a reason for that, some mistake no doubt—Mears and Marriott were check clerks that day—this initialling in my book at page 26, August 15, is Mr. Lavender's writing—he is a head foreman; he didn't walk about the premises—I found him in Mr. Hewitt's office—11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is altered to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I may have asked the customer if she only put down a half-sovereign—the check clerk's entry is in a book which is missing—these initials on page 38 are Mr. Brown's, a shop-walker—4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is altered to 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; that was also on 15th August—I don't remember Brown ever initialling my book, but he must have done so because here are his initials—I should say that a shop walker would refuse to initial a book, and refer me to Mr. Hewitt, but here is the E.G.B.—on page 44, 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 17th August is altered to 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and initialled by Mr. Lavender—at page 51 here is 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and I have put down 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; that is initialled by Mr. Hewitt—at page 84, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 24th August is altered to 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and initialled by Mr. Short house, one of the head foremen—there is a difference between a Shop walker and a foreman; one is in his office, but Winter would walk about with a stamp and stamp each bill—at page 93, 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is altered to 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and initialled by Mr. Short house—I have got the entry of Rooney under a consecutive number 53; that should agree with the check clerk's entry—he numbers consecutively—that is initialled by the prisoner; the amount is 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and it is altered to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—this is Cottle's book—Mr. Hewitt has initialled to strike out No. 53—Rooney was entered 52 before it was struck out—I always made the entries after him—I have got an extra bill entered for 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and Mr. Cottle has got it later on—he has put down Norden 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—Mr. Hewitt has initialled the erasure, and it is quite clear that it should be erased—it is not perfectly clear that he erased it before I received the money—the check clerk would not enter a name half way down a page and commence at the top again—the error is that this book is 52 and mine is 53—I mean to say that "Rooney" was not entered after Mr. Hewitt's initialling, if he had not erased it it would have been 54 in my book—as I do not find it in my book it is certain that Mr. Hewitt made the erasure before the next customer paid me any money—he struck out the bill altogether; the whole thing was erased—it is entered in the check clerk's book; there is no doubt about that—Winter has initialled the name of Rooney in my book, and it is initialled in Cottle's book also—I will undertake to say that when Cottle entered Rooney 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I entered him 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
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<p>there was a fraud, but I do not say that Cottle was necessarily a party to it—his entry was not necessarily made before mine—I have not sworn that Cottle was mixed up in this fraud, and I did not intend it—I suggest that this might have been initialled afterwards; Cottle would of course know that—I don't know where he is—his account agreed with mine at the end of the day—I never gave him any of the money I took from the Stores, but I gave him some change that was left behind a long time ago; about 1882—he has not participated in any of my frauds or known of them—I did not associate with him, but I did with Mears and Marriott—I never visited them while I was in the employ of the Stores—I visited Marriott four or five months after he was discharged—I pleaded guilty on September 10—I have not been sent ended yet—I made one statement in the House of Detention to Mr. Dutton before I pleaded guilty—I had not seen the police to have any conversation with them—when I pleaded guilty I cud not know that I was going to be called as a witness—the trial was on the 18th, but the Sessions commenced on the 10th—I do not know how many persons have been discharged from the Stores—I have given evidence a good many times—I was never at Mr. Dutton's office; he came to me two or three times—I have only seen him about three times—I made state
<lb/>ments to his clerk several times—I signed a number of sheets of paper the first day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have given evidence against Mears, Barge, Strange, and Winter, but not against Marriott—I did not plead guilty on Mr. Besley's advice—Brown was under Winter—I do not know that he has been discharged—I have been in custody—Lavender and Shorthouse were the persons to whom I should go when I wanted to make a
<hi rend="italic">bond fids</hi> alteration—I should take the bill with me and explain it, but when I took it to Winter I did nothing of that kind.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-80" type="surname" value="WINDUS"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-80" type="given" value="WILLIAM HERMAN PROSSER"/>WILLIAM HERMAN PROSSER WINDUS</persName> </hi>. I entered the service of the Stores in 1879, and remained till November, 1882—I was in nearly every department—at the commencement of 1881 I became acquainted with the prisoner—I was then cashier in the grocery department, and he was shop walker there—I met him in the Albert public-house, Victoria Street, and he said "You cashiers seem to have the best berths in the Stores"—I said "I do not see it, as we are only allowed 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week extra"—that meant that if our accounts agreed we had 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a day extra—I had not been guilty of any fraud then—he said "Do you mean to tell me you do not work it with your check clerk?"—I said "I don't understand what you mean; how is it done?"—he said "All you have got to do is to get your check clerk to leave out a bill, and you do the same, and divide the money"—I said "What do you do about the bill?"—he said "Say you want to get a mistake rectified, and get the bill, or if you give me the
<hi rend="italic">tip.</hi> I will get the bill for you"—he said "If I ever ask you for the stamp take no notice of it"—I had to stamp bills—I was the only person authorised to receive money—I was 19 years old at the com
<lb/>mencement of 1881—I do not know the prisoner's age—I carried out his suggestion, and left out a bill, and he took my stamp nearly every day—in those cases in which he took my stamp I made no entry—I saw him stamp customers' bills with my stamp, and take the customers to get the goods—no entry of those matters appeared in my books—I did not receive any of the money the customer handed to him—that went on for</p>
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<p>six months—Mears was my check clerk—he and Marriott were indicted with me—I sent in my resignation in October, 1882, having stopped away two days—I was not taken in custody for nine months afterwards—the prisoner did not receive anything in any of the cases where the bill was left out; his consideration was having the use of my stamp—I made what I could, and he made what he could.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Mr. Hewitt was the principal shop walker in the grocery department; there were four or five other—there were four cash desks, but one department had only one check clerk and the others two each—they see everything that goes in in their department—I have seen the principal shop walker at the cashier's desk if there is any bother with a customer—any foreman could be called if there was a mistake—I do not remember Mr. Brown or Winter signing my book—I do not know who the informant was who led to my being taken in custody; I heard that it was found out by the books—when I omitted to enter the name of a customer I made a note on a piece of paper of the number of the ticket, so that I should be able to destroy the bill afterwards unless the prisoner had got the bill at the time—I swear that the prisoner assisted me in frauds—he used to get the bills and leave them with me to see if they were right, and I would destroy them—Cantle knew that—Mears was my check clerk, and divided the money with me—he knew of the bills being brought—he would not see them, out I told him I had got them—a man was sitting at each side of me, but we were partitioned off from each other—we passed a bill through a little slit in the woodwork—I could not see my check clerk without standing up and looking over the desk—the bills would be brought during business hours—I cannot give you any case on any day which was received from the hand of Winter, because they were so frequent—I have always said that Winter brought bills to the pigeon-hole which I had agreed with Mears not to enter, and I have given the details—I have not given any idea of the month or the customer's name or ticket number—I divided the spoil with Marriott, Evans, and Linham—Marriott gave evidence in Goldsmith's case, and Goldsmith was acquitted—I cannot refer to any writing or memorandum of Winter's in any pocketbook—I resigned partly because I feared I should be found out—no one had been taken in custody then—Rhodes was taken a month afterwards, and my brother a few days before Rhodes—I was remanded from time to time for two or three months before I was committed for trial—I made a statement before I was arrested quite voluntarily—Mr. Dutton took it down, and I signed it—I did not im
<lb/>plicate Evans and Linham—I have seen Mr. Dutton's clerk; I can't say how many times—I was visited once by Mr. Chamberlain—my state
<lb/>ments were read over to me before I signed them—I was before the Magistrate when the prisoner was charged, about 18th September—I was put back to give evidence against him, and have not been sentenced.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I gave evidence before the Magistrate—the prisoner was represented by Mr. Rymer—I stated that the prisoner got the bills from me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-81" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-81" type="surname" value="RHODES"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-81" type="given" value="HARRY JOSEPH"/>HARRY JOSEPH RHODES</persName> </hi>. I was employed at the Stores, and was taken in custody in November, 1882, and pleaded guilty, and was sentenced to three months' hard labour by the Assistant Judge, which I have served and am now at liberty—I remember an order about a week before I was arrested that no counterman was to have communication with a cashier—</p>
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<p>I met Winter in the Albert public-house about three weeks before I was arrested—he had seen me handing 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver to Lloyd, who was tried at the same time and sentenced to nine months' hard labour—he said "You are having a nice little game; be very careful or you will be found out; you need not be frightened of me, for if I knew a murder was being committed I should not
<hi rend="italic">round.</hi>—I was in the provision depart
<lb/>ment, not actually in the grocery—Lloyd was a counterman and I was a cashier—Lloyd being unable to speak to me, Winter brought me a total of all the bills Lloyd had taken during the day, so that it agreed with mine, and I should not be found out—before that time the counterman was allowed to come and ask if his sheet was right, and it was done by direct communication between me and Lloyd, but afterwards Winter placed the sheet in at the window.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I pleaded guilty in December, 1882, at Middlesex Sessions, to stealing from the Stores with Lloyd and Dixon—I was charged with embezzling 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. first, and then various sums, 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. For anything I know—I was also charged with falsification of the accounts, putting in the pence and leaving out the shillings, and Winter sided us by bringing the amount of Lloyd's cash-sheet two or three times a day—I destroyed the papers—Dixon was sentenced on December 14 and I was sentenced in January—Dixon would see the papers—I did not introduce Wiinter's name before the Assistant Judge—I first made a state
<lb/>ment Implicating him in July, 1888, at Mr. Dutton's office—I had a letter saying that he wished to see me, and I went with my uncle—that was the first time I mentioned anything about Winter—I made several state
<lb/>ments, and they were several hours taking them down—I have received the Court expenses—I first gave evidence against Barge, then Mears, then Strange, and then Winter—Strange was acquitted; he was not in the employment, he was a bicycle maker at Kennington Gross—I attended nearly every time when Winter was examined, out I was not examined—I saw Cantle and Windus there giving evidence—the counterman would make a cash-sheet as well at the end of the day—he would enter all the bills he had made up—he would have the bills on the file as well—Lloyd was counterman and I was cashier—his sheet and mine would be compared at the end of the day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> It was by my uncle's advice that I went to Mr. Dutton and made a statement—I made three separate statements—Barge and Mean were convicted—I am 19 years old—I was only 17 when I was convicted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-82" type="given" value="FREDERICK GEORGE"/>FREDERICK GEORGE NETHERCLIFT</persName> </hi>. I live at 10, Bedford Row, and have been 35 years a professional expert in handwriting—I have compared these initials with those on this bill—they are most decidedly the same.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-83" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-83" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-83" type="surname" value="DUTTON"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-83" type="given" value="THOMAS DUERDIN"/>THOMAS DUERDIN DUTTON</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor, and am conducting this prosecution for the Army and Navy Stores—I was entrusted with the conduct of the case before the Magistrate, and when Mr. Netherclift had gone through his evidence, the prisoner, who had been sitting down in the dock, got up and said to the Magistrate "I admit those are my initials"—he was then stopped by his solicitor, Mr. Eymer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I first acted for the Stores in the autumn of 1882, before Rhodes was taken—that was simply a prosecution at the police-court, when a man stole some beef, and since that time I have repre
<lb/>sented the Stores in all criminal matters—I have from time to time examined persons at my office—when Cantle and Windus pleaded guilty</p>
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<p>I did not, through my Counsel, ask that they should be put back to give evidence, nor was it suggested in my presence, and they have never been witnesses—Cantle, Windus, and Marriott were brought up before any of the others—83 persons have been discharged from the Stores in con
<lb/>nection with this case, and a little over 20 have been prosecuted; 11, I think, were prosecuted at the September Sessions. (
<hi rend="italic">See Vol. XCVIII, p.</hi> 556.) Those who have been convicted here, or at the Middlesex Sessions, amount to one where about 20—I have no papers here to refer to—there were five convicted in November, at Middlesex, and I think 11 at the September Session of this Court, and I know there have been one or two since—I will not swear there were more than nine—Goldsmith was acquitted; I include him; he was in the service—I was not in Court—there are no more before the Magistrate at present.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> At the time the other prisoners were sentenced, Windus was under remand at the police-court—Cottle and Brown, a shopwalker, were among the persons discharged from the Stores—with the exception of Goldsmith and Strange they have all been convicted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-84" type="surname" value="CHAMBERLAIN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-84" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CHAMBERLAIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector L</hi>). On 14th September, about 4 p.m., I took the prisoner at the Army and Navy Stores—he asked to read the warrant, and he read it, and said "What are the false ntries?"I said "I have had a number of initials shown to me in the cash book stated to be yours, I am informed you were told about two years or eighteen months ago never to initial any book by Mr. Hewitt"—he said "Yes, I remember that; I have never initialled any since, and if my initials are there they are forged by some one."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I showed him an initial and he looked at it—I wrote the statement down within a few minutes—I told him he would be charged with conspiring with Cantle and others to defraud the Army and Navy Stores by false entries in their books—I did not mention any sum, and I do not think any sum is mentioned in the warrant.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I think Rowney 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., altered to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., is the one I showed him—that statement was made in the presence of Abchurch, Jupe, and Sergeant Brennan.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-85" type="surname" value="ABCHURCH"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-85" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ABCHURCH</persName> </hi>. I am housekeeper at the Army and Navy Stores—on the 14th September I was present when Chamberlain took the prisoner, who asked to see the warrant, and said "I have not initialed any alteration in Cantle's cash book since Mr. Hewitt gave me the order, and if there are any there they are forgeries.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not mention at what time the order was given not to initial the books—I did not mention any time on the former occasion, and I mention it now for the first time, having heard you comment upon it—there are a great many persons in the grocery department—the grocery receipts are not over two millions a year, the gross receipts are about two millions and a half—after everything is paid the profits are about 50,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., even when these thefts are committed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not mention eighteen months or two years to-day till Mr. Besley asked me, but I am sure something of the kind was said on the last occasion.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JUPE</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant L</hi>). I was present when the prisoner was arrested; he said, "If there are any they are not mine, for I never initialled any since I was told not to eighteen months or two years ago, if there are any initials they are forgeries"—I gave that evidence on the last occasion.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have not got a note of it—I was out of Court when Chamberlain was examined on the last trial—I said eighteen months or two years—I did not hear the comments of Counsel on that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received an excellent character.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January.</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>180.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">QUACK</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18840107-180-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<interp inst="t18840107-180-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Ball.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-88" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-88" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Prince of Wales beerhouse, Caledonian Road, Islington—on 6th December I saw both the prisoners in my bar at about half-past 7 in the evening—Ball called for four twopenny cigars and offered a bad two-shilling piece—I took it up and looked at it because it was light—I said "Give us a better one than this"—Ball picked it up, and then, without saying anything, brought out another, which was bad—I said "Have you any more of them?"—he did not say anything but gave them to Quack, and paid for the cigars with a good shilling—Ball made some remark to Quack—I could not swear to the words—Ball went out and Quack followed him—they had had some liquor before I saw them—I did not serve them nor see them served—I had seen them there about ten minutes—I called in a constable and next saw them about half an hour afterwards in custody at the station—both the florins were had—directly after they had gone out I searched my till and found another bad two-shilling piece there—I clear my till every day—Quack said nothing in my hearing—all the three two-shilling pieces have an exactly similar appearances.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not try them in my teeth or in the tester, nor ring them—it was the weight and colour made me think them bad—my cousin also serves in the bar—she is not here—I dare say there would be about 200 people in our house during the day—Ball did not say when he gave the two florins back to Quack "I thought they were good;" it sounded like, "These four shillings would have' made you and I straight if they were good"—the 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. cigars were produced—they were not smoked.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I can't say if all the money handed by Ball was taken out of the same pocket, or if the two florins were taken out of the same pocket—Ball took the cigars.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-89" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-89" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-89" type="surname" value="ROSE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-89" type="given" value="ELIZA JANE"/>ELIZA JANE ROSE</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Swan public-house, Caledonian Road, near the Prince of Wales—on 6th December the two prisoners came into the bar between half-past 7 and 8 o'clock in the evening—I served them about three times; first with sodas and two cigars—I believe Quack put down a shilling—immediately after Quack called for a pot of six ale, and paid for it with a two-shilling piece, and on the third occasion. Ball called for two Hanbury, and handed me a two-shilling piece I believe—I had placed the 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for the pot of ale on the sideboard, and given 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—there were other florins there—I must have placed the two-shilling piece Ball gave me on the sideboard opposite—some time after, while the prisoners were still in the house, Mr. Bastow called my attention to the two-shilling piece Quack had paid for the pot of ale—I did not examine any other of the coins—Mr. Bastow spoke to the prisoners before they went away.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am positive I did not serve the banburys to Quack—I could not swear Ball paid with a two-shilling piece; I believe he did—Quack's last two-shilling piece was a bad one.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Each of the coins must have been placed separately.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-90" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-90" type="surname" value="BASTOW"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-90" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BASTOW</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Swan—on 6th December I was in my bar between half-past 7 and 8—the prisoners came in by them
<lb/>selves, and Quack called for two small sodas—Miss Rose served them—some time afterwards a constable made a communication to me, and Rose fetched me the two-shilling piece which she had received from Quack, as she said—she took it from the sideboard—it was bad—I said to Quack "Do you know you have passed a bad two-shilling piece here in payment for a pot of ale?"—I hardly remember whether Ball was present—after I had been to the station I went back, and was shown this two-shilling piece on the sideboard, near where the other was taken from—I should not like to say whether Ball was present when the constable came in; he had been out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This occurred on the 6th, and I was examined on the 7th—if I then said that Ball had left before I spoke to Quack, it was probably right—the police-station is about three-quarters of a mile from my house—I was away three-quarters of an hour, and when I came back the barmaid showed me some bad money, I think both these bad coins—I had to bend them before I could make up my mind whether they were good or bad—I have been a licensed victualler for 13 years.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-91" type="surname" value="BAKER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-91" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BAKER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y R</hi> 27). On December 6th I was on duty with Dinsmoor in the Prince of Wales—Ball came out, and Quack followed a minute after and joined him—I followed—they went to the White Swan, about 150 yards off—I went in about two or three minutes afterwards and spoke to Mr. Bastow—both the prisoners were there—I heard Quack call for a pot of old six—he tendered a florin—Rose served him, I believe, and put it on the sideboard at the back by itself—in consequence of something I said Bastow picked up the coin and brought it to me and bent it—Ball was sitting down; he did not ask for anything at this time—I said to Quack, "I am a police-officer, and shall take you in custody for uttering counterfeit coin"—I was in plain clothes—I searched him there, and found on him eight sixpences, seven shillings, 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze, two half-ounces of tobacco, three cigars, and some postage
<lb/>stamps, no bad money—while searching Quack, Ball stepped out of the door—I took Quack to the station—the other constable apprehended Ball shortly afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not hear Ball ask for anything; I should have heard him if he had, except when I went out of the house to go into the other department to take Quack in custody—the other constable found the two banburys on Ball—Ball went out—it is a swing door to the public-house—he opened the door a little way and went out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I noticed him just as he had got out—Ball was present while I charged Quack at the public-house, and he remained there till I commenced searching Quack.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-92" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-92" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT DINSMOOR</persName> </hi>. I was with Baker on 6th December, and went with him from the Prince of Wales to the Swan, into which I saw him go—I remained outside, and after some little time Ball came out—I said to him, "Where are your two
<hi rend="italic">pals</hi> gone?"—he said, "He has gone up the road with two detectives"—I was in plain clothes—I said, "I am a police-officer, I shall take you in custody for passing counterfeit coins in</p>
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<p>various places"—he said, "All right, I know I have been
<hi rend="italic">boosing</hi> with them"—I took him to the station, searched him, and found 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. In silver, 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze, a cigar, a half-ounce of tobacco, a knife, a key, and portions of two banburys.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There was nobody with Quack but Ball, I invented the other man—I took down in writing what Ball said, there is no doubt about it—I made a note of what Ball said the night of the charge—I did not have it at the police-court when I gave evidence, I have not got it now—I did not say at the police-court that he said, "All right, I have only been
<hi rend="italic">booting</hi> with them," I am not positive about it—I made inquiries about Ball—he said he used to work for Mr. Hyman, who gave him a good character and said he was willing to take him back in his employ
<lb/>ment, and he trusted him in his private residence—I saw he thought very much of him—there are other charges against Quack—I took Ball opposite the Prince of Wales, about 160 yards from where Quack was taken—the prisoner was at work the day before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-93" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am examiner of coins to Her Majesty's Mint—these coins are all bad—the one from the Prince of Wales is from the same mould as the one which Ball tendered at the Swan.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BALL</hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">QUACK</hi>*.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<p>181.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN ALFRED DORMER</hi> (16)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-181-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-181-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counter
<lb/>feit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFORD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Proceed.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-95" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-95" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-95" type="surname" value="TANNER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-95" type="given" value="ADELINE"/>ADELINE TANNER</persName> </hi>. I keep a tobacconist shop at 15, Byre Street, Regent Street—the prisoner came to my shop about the 10th or 11th of December, and asked for a pennyworth of bird's-eye—he gave me a bad florin; I gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and he went away—I after
<lb/>wards gave the florin to my servant, Emma Laurie, to get change, and she came back with this piece of the coin—on 20th December he came again and asked for a pennyworth of bird's-eye, and gave me this shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I recognised him and sent for a constable, saying to him "Wait a few minutes, I am going to send for change"—a constable came, and I said to him in the prisoner's presence "I charge this man with passing bad money"—I am not sure if I said anything about his having been there before—one of my landlord's servants closed the door to prevent him escaping—I am quite sure he is the boy who came on the 10th or 11th—I remember him quite dis
<lb/>tinctly—my servant was not in the shop when he came the first time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-96" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-96" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-96" type="surname" value="LAURIE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-96" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA LAURIE</persName> </hi>. I was in Mrs. Tanner's service in the beginning of December—I was not in the shop on the 10th or 11th when the prisoner came, but afterwards she handed me this florin to get changed—I took it to a shop on the opposite side of the road and handed it to some one, who tried it in the tester; it broke—they kept the other piece; I brought this back—I was present on 20th December when the prisoner came and uttered a bad shilling—I have heard what my mistress has said—that is quite correct—she said nothing to the prisoner about his having been in the shop before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-97" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-97" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-97" type="surname" value="SPIERS"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-97" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK SPIERS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman C.</hi> 271). About 12 noon on 20th December I was called to 15, Eyre Street, and the prisoner was given into my custody—Mrs. Tanner said in his presence "I wish to give the prisoner into custody for passing a bad shilling; he came in about a week ago</p>
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<p>and passed a bad florin"—the prisoner said he had got the shilling from an omnibus conductor; he said nothing then about the florin—at the station when charged he said he knew nothing about the florin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-98" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-98" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi>"I received the shilling from an Atlas 'bus conductor. The florin I know nothing about."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I passed a shilling not knowing it was bad. I received it off a 'bus conductor. As to the two-shilling piece I know nothing about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MRS. TANNER</hi>. I kept the broken florin in the corner of a cupboard, and determined to watch for the boy if ever he came again.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-181-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-181-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—</rs>
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<interp inst="t18840107-181-punishment-14" type="punishmentCategory" value="noPunish"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-181-punishment-14" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="sentenceRespited"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-181-18840107 t18840107-181-punishment-14"/>
<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>182.
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<interp inst="def1-182-18840107" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM HARRINGTON</hi> (20)</persName>
<rs id="t18840107-182-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<interp inst="t18840107-182-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-100" type="surname" value="JARRETT"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-100" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL JARRETT</persName> </hi>. I live at 20, Moorgate Street, Borough, and keep a movable coffee-stall—on 16th November, about 3.15 a.m., the prisoner came to my stall near the Obelisk in the Waterloo Road, and asked for two eggs, two slices of bread and butter, and some coffee—it came to five pence—he gave me a half-crown—I gave him four sixpences and a penny change—he went away along the Westminster Bridge Road—it was not dark around the stalls; we had lamps—I looked at the coin after he had gone, and found it was bad—I went after him—I showed the coin to constable Larman, and soon after saw the prisoner coming out of a court in the Waterloo Road—I and the constable went up to him, and the constable asked him whether he gave this bad half-crown to me—he said "Yes; I did not know it was bad; I got it in change of half a sovereign at a fish-shop in the London Road"—I gave him into custody; he was brought up twice, remanded, and then discharged—he gave the name of Morton, I believe.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-101" type="surname" value="LARMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-101" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES LARMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman L.</hi> 245). On the morning of the 16th Novem
<lb/>ber I was on duty in the Westminster Bridge Road—Jarrett came up and showed me this half-crown, and pointed out the prisoner to me—I went up to him and asked if he had passed the half-crown at the coffee-stall—he said "Yes"—I said "Did you know it was bad?"—he said "No; I got it in change of half a sovereign at a fish-shop in the London Road, near the South London Music Hall; I had no more money on me at the time I passed the half-crown"—I searched him in the street after he was given into custody, and found four sixpences, two shillings, and eight pence halfpenny in bronze, good money—he gave the name of William Morton—he was taken to Southwark Police-court, remanded twice, and discharged a fortnight after the event, on 28th November.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-102" type="surname" value="RIDDINGTON"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-102" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM RIDDINGTON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Vargnot, a grocer, Sekforde Street, Clerkenwell—on 8th December, about 1.30 p.m., the prisoner came in and asked for two ounces of 16
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. butter—the price was 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave this half-crown in payment—I tried it in my teeth, bent it, and told him it was bad—he said he had done a day's work the day before at the East India Docks and received the half-crown there and a sixpence—he said he was going to take the butter to the House of detention to a friend of his—Mr. Vargnot went out with the prisoner—I gave Mr. Vargnot the half-crown before he went out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-103" type="surname" value="VARGNOT"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-103" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN VARGNOT</persName> </hi>. I was at His back of my grocer's shop in Sekforde</p>
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<p>Street when the prisoner came in on the 8th December—I could see him through the window—my young man came in the parlour and showed me this half-crown, and I came into the shop, where I found the prisoner—I said "This is bad money"—he said "I got it from the East India Docks for work done there the previous day"—he said he was going to take the butter to the House of Detention—the butter was given to him, but no change, and I went with him to the House of Detention—on the way I met a policeman and told him he had passed a bad half-crown—another constable came and looked at it and said "It is bad enough"—the prisoner said he had bought the butter for a friend in the House of Detention—the constable went with him and said it was true he had a friend of his there, but he brought back the butter—I lost the butter—I gave the coin to the police.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-104" type="surname" value="BRIDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-104" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRIDGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G.</hi> 243). I was on duty at the House of Detention, Clerkenwell, when Mr. Vargnot came with the prisoner—he said the prisoner had been into his shop and put down the half-crown for two ounces of butter—he gave me this half-crown; I have had it ever since—Mr. Vargnot also gave me another one which he took a week before—when Mr. Vargnot charged him he said "I know where I got it; I was at work at the East India Docks yesterday"—on the way to the station he said "I don't see why I should get into trouble over it; Tom Robertson, Tom Lister, and myself have come into the House of Detention to see a prisoner of the name of Lister, Lister's brother. When he was coming down the road Tom Robertson said 'We have forgot the butter,' and he gave me the half-crown and told me to go and get two ounces of butter"—he said "I was not at work on the previous day"—that was not in answer to a question—he said "Tom Robertson lives at Levy's lodging-house, 30, Mint Street, Borough"—I have made inquiries about Robertson—I do not know him—I went to 30, Mint Street; Levy's lodging-house is there—I found nothing on the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> Another constable came no and broke one of the coins.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-105" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-105" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two half-crowns are both bad—they are from different moulds.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-106" type="surname" value="VARGNOT"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-106" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN VARGNOT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). When I told the prisoner the coin was bad, he said it was not very likely he would pass a bad coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi>"When I gave the half-crown to that man he said it was bad. I told him I did-not think it was, it came from the docks. His master came out of the shop and said he would keep it. I told him there was a constable at the bottom of the street, and when we got down there I went up and explained it to the constable. The master of the shop gave him another bad half-crown with mine. They called another constable, who bent both of them. The constable asked what they were going to do, and the man said 'I will give him in charge.'"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner, in his defence, stated that when the man in the shop said the coin was bad he did not try it in his teeth. He asked him to come down the street that he might see the man who had given it him. The constable was at the bottom of the street, who must have seen the man who had given it to him.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-182-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-182-18840107 t18840107-182-punishment-15"/>Nine Months' Hard labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>183.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH MARWELL</hi> (35)</persName> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARIA NORMAN</hi> (34)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-183-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Un
<lb/>lawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Marwell.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-109" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-109" type="given" value="MONIONIA"/>MONIONIA HEWITT</persName> </hi>. My father keeps a tavern in Warner Place, Bethnal Green—about 4.45 on the evening of 11th December the two prisoners came to my bar with another man, and the female called for a pot of four
<lb/>ale—Marwell paid with this florin (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I gave 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and they went out, Norman going last—they left about three-parts of the ale in the pot; they all drank out of the same—I put the coin on the bar-parlour table—there was no other florin there—about a quarter of an hour after
<lb/>wards I and my mother examined the florin, and I went in search of the prisoners—I went along Plumber Road, and saw them there, the two men in front and the female behind—I saw them go into the Baxendale Arms, and spoke to a constable, and went in with him and showed him Marwell, and said "This man has given me a bad two-shilling piece"—the constable said "Did this man give you the bad two-shilling piece?"—I said "Yes, he did"—he did not say anything—I gave the florin to the constable—I came away—Norman and the other man were there too.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>. The appearance of the florin was very good; I did not think it was bad—I have been behind the bar about 13 years, and take a great deal of money every day—Marwell was a little the worse for drink—they left half the beer, they all three had a drink—I could not say what the third man, who got away, was like; he was a short man—all the woman did was to drink out of the pot.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-110" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-110" type="surname" value="LEE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-110" type="given" value="EDITH AMY"/>EDITH AMY LEE</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Baxendale Arms—on the evening of 11th December, between 5 and 5.30, both the prisoners came into the bar with another man—Marwell called for drink, and paid with good money—he then handed me a florin, and asked me to change it—I told him it was bad, and returned it to him—the other man, who is not here, said to the prisoner "You have been done, old man"—while this was going on the two constables and Miss Hewitt came in, and I said to the police in the prisoner's presence "He has given me a bad two-shilling piece"—I had given it back to the prisoner—I didn't notice what state Marwell was in—I did not stay there while they drank the beer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The woman did and said nothing—I would not serve a drunken man—he did not appear the worse for drink to me—I did not notice him—I should not like to say he did not appear the worse, for drink—the other man was pitted with small-pox—he was a low, rough-looking man—Marwell did not say anything then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-111" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-111" type="surname" value="GULLY"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-111" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES GULLY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H R.</hi> 27). On 11th December, about 5 o'clock in the evening, I met Miss Hewitt, and in consequence of what she said I went with her to the Baxendale Arms—I saw the two prisoners and another man at the bar—Miss Hewitt pointed them out—I said to Marwell "You are accused of passing a bad two-shilling piece; have you any more?"—he said "No"—I saw his left hand was closed—I said "What have you in your hand?"—he said "It is my money"—I said "Let me see"—on opening his hand I found eight shillings, four sixpences, and a florin, and 9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze—one of the shillings and the florin were counterfeit—Miss Lee said "That is the one that he has just asked me to change"—I searched him; I found nothing more on him, but on the ground close to his feet</p>
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<p>I found two single shillings, one in front of his feet and the other six inches farther off; and on his left-hand side I found a packet of eight shillings all wrapped up separately in tissue paper—the tap-room is behind this bar, and there is a was out from the tap-room to the back—while I was searching Marwell the other man escaped that way—Stebbings handed me a packet which I saw him pick up; he was keeping the door to prevent any people coming in and going out—I was not examined at the police-court, I was ill.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I believe the woman said to the other officer "I have nothing to do with it, I met these two gentlemen and they asked me to have something to drink"—I believe only 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found on her—Stebbings was standing about three yards from Marwell keeping the door, and could have heard me ask if he had any more bad money about him and his answer no—the prisoner did not say "You can search me"—the man that escaped said "You can search me"—they were all standing in a row when I came in—I should not think Marwell was perfectly sober, he certainly had been drinking.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-112" type="surname" value="STEBBINGS"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-112" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES STEBBINGS</persName> </hi>. I was in Bethnal Green on the evening of 11th December—I came to Hewitt as Gully came up, and I went with him to the Baxendale Arms—I was in plain clothes—inside I saw the two prisoners and another man, the men standing at the bar and the woman fitting down—Gully said to Marwell "This woman gives you in custody for passing a bad two-shilling piece"—I understood the prisoner to say he had no bad money—Gully said he should search him—a bad two-shilling-piece and a shilling were found in his left hand—Gully passed them to me—Gully picked a packet of bad money off the floor, and I picked up another one close to the prisoner's feet—I believe the prisoner said he knew nothing about them—I told Norman I should take her into custody for being concerned with them in passing counterfeit coin—she said she met the two men and they asked her to have something to drink—I think 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found on her—when Gully was talking to Marwell I was standing with my back against the door.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Gully did not give evidence at the police-court—I told him I would give evidence, I did not tell him what I would say—I wrote down what the prisoner said in my note book—I had my note book at the police-court, I did not look at it—I have not got it now—when Gully said he would search Marwell, he said "You can search me"—I do not swear he said he had no more bad money about him, I did not mention it to the Magistrate—I was more interested in looking after the woman than after the man—Gully did not tell me the man had said he had no bad money—he gave a correct name and address—his master gave him a very respectable character—I don't bow the other man who bolted—Marwell had been drinking, but was not so drunk that he did not know what he was about.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. The third man had to pass Marwell to get away—I don't think I could have mistaken their voices.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-113" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. All these coins are bad—the two florins are from the same mould, and all the shillings are from one mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for Marwell's Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-114" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-114" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. I keep the Admiral Napier, Charles Street, Old Bethnal Green Road—on 11th December Marwell came into my house about 3 p.m. with another man—Norman was-not with them—they called</p>
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<p>for ale; I declined to serve him, I thought he was intoxicated—the other man was not so drunk—he was short, with no teeth, and faintly pitted with small-pox—they had some soda-water at the bar, and went into the bagatelle room, which opens from the bar—the prisoner lay as if asleep, and I saw face other man put his hand in his pocket—I don't know what he put in or what he took out—I have known Mar well as a respectable man in employment, and as living with a friend of mine for three or four years.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The other man was a stranger to me—they remained in the house about half an hour, and went out a little better than they came in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Marwell received a good character.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Norman, in her defence, stated that she did not know either of the two men, whom she had met and gone with to have a drink.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-183-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>184.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK LARGE</hi> </persName> and
<persName id="def2-184-18840107" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-184-18840107" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="def2-184-18840107" type="given" value="GEORGE HERBERT"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE HERBERT SHIRLEY</hi> </persName>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18840107-184-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-184-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-184-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to
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<interp inst="t18840107-184-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-184-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs>
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<interp inst="t18840107-184-punishment-16" type="punishmentCategory" value="noPunish"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-184-18840107 t18840107-184-punishment-16"/>
<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January.</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<p>185.
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<interp inst="def1-185-18840107" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS FRAMP</hi> (24)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-185-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-185-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglary in the dwelling-house of
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-118" type="surname" value="BRYANT"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-185-offence-1 t18840107-name-118"/>John Bryant</persName>, and stealing a coat and other article.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi> receiving the same.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POYNTER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-119" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-119" type="surname" value="BRYANT"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-119" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BRYANT</persName> </hi>. I am a dairyman, of 108, Elmore Street, Islington—on 20th December I was the last person up—I went to bed at 12.15; the doors were all closed and fastened—about 1.15 I was aroused by a man named Clark, a cab proprietor, who rents a stable of me—I went down-stairs and found a pane of glass broken in the shop window—the window was open wide enough to admit anybody—I missed a coat, 24 eggs, and some postage-stamps—the prisoner was outside and Mr. Clark was holding him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-120" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-120" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-120" type="surname" value="CLARK"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-120" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am a cab proprietor and live at 39, Elmore Street—I rent a stable of Mr. Bryant—at 1.15 on 21st December I took my horse into the yard and shut the gates after me; I heard a rattling noise at the gate and noticed a light in prosecutor's shop—I saw two men try to get out of the gates—the prisoner was one—I caught hold of him and the other got away—I said "What are you doing here?"—he said "I am doing nothing; I was passing here and I hoard the gates rattle, and a man says' Let me out,' and he gave me some eggs"—I said "I shall detain you until Mr. Bryant comes down"—Mr. Bryant came down and gave the prisoner in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-121" type="surname" value="HART"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-121" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN HART</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N.</hi> 595). I was called to Elmore Street by Mr. Bryant between 1 and 2 a.m. on the 21st December—I saw the prisoner there and he was given into my custody—he said "I went down the gateway to make water and I heard a man inside the gates making a noise; he said 'I want to get out, open the gate;' he had some eggs in a hat, and he said 'Here are some eggs for you; let me out;' I took the eggs, when the cabman came down the yard and caught hold of me"—at the station I found on him this bunch of keys—he says</p>
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<p>they were given to him by the man—there were 24 eggs in his pockets—there were also a pencil case and knife, but no postage-stamps or coat—I examined the prosecutor's premises next day, and found this key broken in the desk in which the stamps were.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-185-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-185-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18840107-185-punishment-17" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-185-18840107 t18840107-185-punishment-17"/>Twelve Months Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>186.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WALTER ROSE</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-186-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-186-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing a rug value 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count.</hi> receiving the same.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BEARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-123" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-123" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-123" type="surname" value="DUCK"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-123" type="given" value="HUBERT"/>HUBERT DUCK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective T.</hi>) On 26th December, about 6.10, I saw the prisoner outside the King's Arms public-house at Brentford—he had a rug; I asked him where he got it from, and he said he had paid 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it to a man at Chelsea—I asked him if he knew the man; he said he did not—I told him I was not satisfied and I should take him to the station—he said "No, you b——, you won't"—I looked round and saw a private person and told him to follow me, and the prisoner went quietly to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-124" type="surname" value="HEATH"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-124" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HEATH</persName> </hi>. I keep the Brewery Tavern, Shepherd's Bush—on 26th December, between 5 and 6, I left my trap outside the John Bull, Gunnersbury—I went inside, and when I came out I missed this rug—I gave information to the police—the rug is worth about 50
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-186-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of receiving.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18840107-186-punishment-18" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-186-18840107 t18840107-186-punishment-18"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>187.
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<interp inst="def1-187-18840107" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="def1-187-18840107" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN RUSSELL</hi> (49)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-187-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="damage"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-187-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="other"/>, Unlawfully and wilfully breaking a pane of glass value 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-126" type="surname" value="SPILLER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-126" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SPILLER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman.</hi> 501). On the morning of 18th December I was on duty at Lndgate Hill—about half-past 1 I heard a crash as if a window had been smashed—I saw the prisoner making away—he was 15 to 30 yards off—I ran after him and stopped him) and told him I should charge him with wilfully breaking the window—he was not five yards off when I first saw him—there was no one else in the street—I took him to the station and charged him—I went to the window, and found this large stone—there are no stones in the road like this.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-127" type="surname" value="HITCHING"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-127" type="given" value="THOMAS HENRY BROOKE"/>THOMAS HENRY BROOKE HITCHING</persName> </hi>. I am a baby carriage manufac
<lb/>turer at No. 19, Ludgate Hill—on 17th December I left my plate-glass window intact—on the morning of the 18th my attention was called to it by the constable; it was broken—the size of it is 130 by about 80, and the value of it was from 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-187-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>188.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LOUISA THOMAS</hi> (33)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-188-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-188-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from the person of
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-130" type="surname" value="LARMAN"/>
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<lb/>cember I was at the Star and Garter public-house—I saw the prisoner there—she said "Will you have a drink?"I did, and I treated her—about half-past 12 I left the public-house with her—I was sober, but she was half intoxicated—I went into one of the by-streets with her and gave her a shilling, which I took out of my trousers pocket: she saw me do it—I found her pulling my trousers about, but I did not</p>
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<p>feel her put her hand in my pocket—two or three minutes after she left—afterwards I missed the sum of 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I saw a constable, and told him about it—next day I saw her in the Caledonian Road, and I asked her to give me my money back; she said she never had it—I called a constable and gave her into custody—she then said she would give me the money back—I had not spoken to anybody between the time she left me and the time I missed my money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I got this money out of my club—I did not get it before ten minutes past 11, and I went straight to the public-house—I counted it just before I went into the public-house—there were no other woolen there—there were two sovereigns and a half-sovereign, and there was 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. left.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-131" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-131" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G.</hi> 216). I was called by the prosecutor to take the prisoner into custody—he said he should charge her with stealing 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from his pocket—she said "I do not know anything about it, I have just come out to get my husband's dinner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> All I know is he gave me a shilling, and he paid for five half-quarterns of rum, and he went out more than twice with some young woman round the corner. He wanted me to go with him and I would not go.</p>
<p>
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<p>189.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LOUISA THOMAS</hi> (33)</persName> was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted, with
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANNIE RYAN</hi> (33)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-189-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="miscellaneous"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-189-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pervertingJustice"/>, Feloniously conspiring to obstruct, pervert, and defeat the course of public justice.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-134" type="surname" value="WRIGHT"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-134" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WRIGHT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G.</hi> 90). I am assistant jailer at Clerken
<lb/>well Police-court—on the 18th December Annie Ryan was convicted of drunkenness at that Court and fined 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., or in default two days'—she had no money and was put in the cells—afterwards a prisoner named Harris was put in, and after that Louisa Thomas, who was charged with felony and committed for trial—some time after they had all three been together, Harris called to me and said she wished to pay her fine—she gave me a sovereign and I gave her 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. change and let her out, and called to Ryan to come out—a woman came out who to all appearance was Ryan—she had on the same hat and cloak that Ryan wore in the morning—I shut the door and left, as I thought, Louisa Thomas in the cell—when the van came to take the prisoners I went to the cell and found Annie Ryan there instead of Louisa Thomas—she was wearing Thomas's cloak and hat—I told Ryan she had changed her clothes with Thomas—she said she had not—Thomas was afterwards brought back to the station, when Ryan made the reply that "Exchange was no robbery"—that was when they were both charged before the inspector.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-135" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-135" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G.</hi> 216). On the 18th December I had Thomas in custody for felony—she was committed for trial—she was wearing a hat, cloak, and scarf—next day I found Ryan wearing that cloak and scarf, and heard that Thomas had escaped—I went in search for her in the Talbot public-house, Caledonian Road—I told her I should take her into custody—she said she was only fined half-a-crown, which she paid—I told her she had been committed for trial, and she said she had not—she was wearing a new hat, and I asked her where he got it from—she said, "I bought it; although I was searched at the station on the previous charge they did not get all the money I had."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ryan' a Defence.</hi> Thomas asked me if I would exchange my cloak, and</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188401070037"/>
<p>I felt there was no harm in it. She went out with the prisoner Harris, and I was left in the cell. They said they would come back and bring me my fine, but they never came back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18840107-189-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-189-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-189-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18840107-189-punishment-19" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-189-punishment-19" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-189-punishment-19" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-189-18840107 t18840107-189-punishment-19"/>Four Months Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">RYAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18840107-189-punishment-20" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-189-punishment-20" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-189-punishment-20" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-189-18840107 t18840107-189-punishment-20"/>One Month's Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18840107-190" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18840107"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-190" type="date" value="18840107"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18840107-190-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-190-18840107 t18840107-190-offence-1 t18840107-190-verdict-1"/>
<p>190.
<persName id="def1-190-18840107" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-190-18840107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-190-18840107" type="age" value="17"/>
<interp inst="def1-190-18840107" type="surname" value="WILSON"/>
<interp inst="def1-190-18840107" type="given" value="HENRY"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY WILSON</hi> (17)</persName>
<rs id="t18840107-190-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-190-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-190-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing from
<persName id="t18840107-name-137" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-137" type="surname" value="SHUTTER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-137" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-190-offence-1 t18840107-name-137"/>William John Shutter</persName> a watch and piece of gold chain.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-138" type="surname" value="SHOTTER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-138" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN SHOTTER</persName> </hi>. I live at 24, Coborn Road, Bow—I am engaged in the liquidation of a company of which I have been the manager—about a quarter to 7 on 24th December I was walking through Leadenhall Street—near Aldgate end three or four persons came round me and pressed me into a doorway—I believe the prisoner was one of them, but I do not positively swear to him—they held my arms down, and one of them twisted his legs round me and I was powerless—they forced my coat open and took my watch and part of the chain—this is the remains of the chain—I called out, "They have got my watch"—two or three went in pursuit, and the prisoner was brought back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-139" type="surname" value="FOWLER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-139" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FOWLER</persName> </hi>. On the 24th December, about a quarter to 7, I was in Leadenhall Street—I saw three men scuffling with the prosecutor; one was holding his hands at the back, and two were in front of him—my wife was with me, and she called out, "They have got his watch"—two of the men ran towards Cornhill, and one went down Creed Lane—the prisoner was one of the men in front of the prosecutor; he had got hold of him about his waistcoat pockets—I ran after him and saw him caught—I never lost sight of him from the time he started from the prosecutor until he was brought back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-140" type="surname" value="MAGUIRE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-140" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MAGUIRE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E.</hi> 404). About 6.45 on 24th December I was in Leadenhall Street in plain clothes and off duty—I heard a cry of "Stop thief!"and saw the prisoner and two others running in the direction of Cornhill—I went after him—I saw last witness dose by me—I was within three yards of prisoner the entire distance, and never lost sight of him—I caught him—he said "What are you stopping me for?"—I said "I am a police-officer, and I shall take you in custody for a robbery I believe you have committed in Leadenhall Street"—he said "I have not been in Leadenhall Street, and if you don't
<hi rend="italic">bleeding</hi> well let me go I will give you a Christmas box"—I brought him back to the prosecutor and he said "I believe that is one of the men"—afterwards Fowler came up and said "That is one of the men"—I searched the prisoner and found silver to the amount of 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and some bronze.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18840107-190-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-190-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-190-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18840107-190-punishment-21" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-190-punishment-21" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-190-punishment-21" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-190-18840107 t18840107-190-punishment-21"/>Twelve Months' Hard labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18840107-191" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18840107"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-191" type="date" value="18840107"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18840107-191-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-191-18840107 t18840107-191-offence-1 t18840107-191-verdict-1"/>
<p>191.
<persName id="def1-191-18840107" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-191-18840107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-191-18840107" type="age" value="23"/>
<interp inst="def1-191-18840107" type="surname" value="MASON"/>
<interp inst="def1-191-18840107" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM MASON</hi> (23)</persName>
<rs id="t18840107-191-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-191-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-191-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Robbery with violence, with others, on
<persName id="t18840107-name-142" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-142" type="surname" value="SHERIDAN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-142" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-191-offence-1 t18840107-name-142"/>Edward Sheridan</persName>, and stealing the sum of 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-143" type="surname" value="SHERIDAN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-143" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD SHERIDAN</persName> </hi>. I live at 10, Beaumont Square, Mile End—between 12 and 1 o'clock on Sunday morning, 26th November, I was in the Mile End Road—I was seized behind by two men, and one endeavoured to strike me in the lower part of my body—they pulled out my pocket and ran away—my money was in an interior place, so they only got 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I</p>
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<p>pursued them—a sergeant of police got between me and them and I gave up the chase—afterwards I saw the prisoner in custody of two policemen.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-144" type="surname" value="CARTER"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-144" type="given" value="CALEB"/>CALEB CARTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T.</hi> 24). On the morning of 26th December I was in the Mile End Road—I saw the prisoner and two other men running across the road, pursued by the prosecutor—I took up the chase and saw the prisoner stopped by another constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-145" type="surname" value="ORAM"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-145" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ORAM</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H.</hi> 387). I was on duty in the Mile End Road on the morning of 26th December—I saw three men running, followed by Sergeant Carter and Mr. Sheridan—I stopped the prisoner and he was given in custody for robbing the prosecutor.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I heard the cry of "Stop thief!"and ran towards where it came from, and on going down Sydney Street the constable caught hold of me. I said that I was not the one.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18840107-191-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-191-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-191-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been convicted of felony at the Sessions House, Clerkenwell, on 7th December.</hi> 1874.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18840107-191-punishment-22" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-191-punishment-22" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-191-punishment-22" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-191-18840107 t18840107-191-punishment-22"/>Eight Month's Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18840107-192" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18840107"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-192" type="date" value="18840107"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18840107-192-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-192-18840107 t18840107-192-offence-1 t18840107-192-verdict-1"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18840107-192-charge-2" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-192-18840107 t18840107-192-offence-1 t18840107-192-verdict-1"/>
<p>192.
<persName id="def1-192-18840107" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-192-18840107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-192-18840107" type="age" value="30"/>
<interp inst="def1-192-18840107" type="surname" value="CASTLE"/>
<interp inst="def1-192-18840107" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD CASTLE</hi> (30)</persName> and
<persName id="def2-192-18840107" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-192-18840107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-192-18840107" type="age" value="25"/>
<interp inst="def2-192-18840107" type="surname" value="DALEY"/>
<interp inst="def2-192-18840107" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN DALEY</hi> (25)</persName>
<rs id="t18840107-192-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-192-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-192-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglary in the dwelling-house of
<persName id="t18840107-name-148" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-148" type="surname" value="GREEN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-148" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-192-offence-1 t18840107-name-148"/>Frederick Green</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-149" type="surname" value="HURST"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-149" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HURST</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman X.</hi> 113). At half-past 2 a.m. on 8th Decem
<lb/>ber I was on duty in the Portobello Road, opposite the Blenheim Arms public-house—I heard a noise like the shutting of a door—I saw these two men come up from the cellar-flap of the public-house—I went after Daley, but he got away—I came back and arrested Castle—he is lame, and has one crutch—I took him to the station, and then went back to the prosecutor's and rang him up—we found the cellar-flap had been forced from the outside, and there were the marks of a chisel—the flap had been fastened from the inside, but the bolts had been torn from the wood work—there was a barrel in the cellar about four feet high, on which there were foot marks—Daley was apprehended on the Sunday—he was placed amongst several others at the police-station, and I identi
<lb/>fied him at once as being the man who was with Castle—Castle's clothes were covered with saw-dust and dirt similar to that in the cellar—I saw Daley's face when he was fire or six yards away from me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-150" type="surname" value="GREEN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-150" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK GREEN</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Blenheim Arms—on the morn
<lb/>ing of 8th December I went to bed about 1 o'clock—I saw the doors bolted—the cellar-flap is fastened on the inside by two bolts—that was last fastened on the previous Monday—I was aroused by the constable, and went downstairs—I found the cellar-flap partly open, and the bolts had been forced, and there was a mark outside as if done with a chisel—there were footmarks, and the sawdust below had been disturbed—I do not know the prisoners, and I do not miss anything.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-151" type="surname" value="GUNN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-151" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID GUNN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman X.</hi> 247). On Sunday night, 9th December, I was on duty at the corner of Bangor Street—I saw Daley there, and I said "Is your name Brewer?"—"No," he said, "my name is Daley"—I told him I should take him into custody for being concerned with a man named Castle in breaking into a beerhouse in Kensington Park Road—he said "I am innocent of this job this time; I was in bed at the time"—I took him to the station, where he was placed with others, and identi
<lb/>fied by Hurst.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-152" type="surname" value="NOBLE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-152" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE NOBLE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman X.</hi> 601). I know both prisoners byname</p>
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<p>and by sight—on 8th December I was on duty in Clarendon Eoad, when I saw them walking in the direction of Belgrave Crescent—they were together—it was about 1 in the morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence of Daisy.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-153" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-153" type="surname" value="BECK"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-153" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET BECK</persName> </hi>. Daley was in my house on the Friday night from 7 to 10 o'clock—he had his tea and supper with me—he came the next day and had his breakfast and his tea and supper, and the same on Sunday—that is all I know.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18840107-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18840107-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-154" type="surname" value="GUNN"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-154" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID GUNN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman X.</hi> 247) (
<hi rend="italic">Recalled by Daley</hi>). I have made in
<lb/>quiries at Mr. Norris's lodging-house—he says your money was paid for your lodging, but that you were not in bed that night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18840107-192-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-192-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-192-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CASTLE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been convicted of felony on the 4th March.</hi> 1878,
<hi rend="italic">and Daley to having been convicted at this Court on 20th October.</hi> 1879.
<hi rend="largeCaps">CASTLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18840107-192-punishment-23" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-192-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-192-punishment-23" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-192-18840107 t18840107-192-punishment-23"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">DALEY</hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18840107-192-punishment-24" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18840107-192-punishment-24" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-192-punishment-24" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-192-18840107 t18840107-192-punishment-24"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18840107-193" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18840107"/>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. the moneys of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-193-offence-1 t18840107-name-157"/>Joseph Dale</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HICKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-158" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY EDNEY</persName> </hi>. I help Mr. Dale, a corn merchant of 159, High Street, Brentford—on the 21st December Lee came into the shop—I was alone—Mr. Dale was haying his dinner—Lee asked for Mr. Dale—I told him he was having his dinner—then he asked me for a box for a dog's kennel—I said I had not got one—then he asked if I had change for a penny, and I opened the till to get it—I could not say how much money there was in it—shillings and sixpences both—I gave Lee the two half-pennies for the penny and he went away, and then Watts came in and asked how much the sacks outside were—I said Mr. Dale did not sell them—he said "Never mind, I will call again"—I looked in the till directly after Mr. Pennington came in, and found there was only six-pence in the till in silver—whilst I was talking to Lee I had not my eye on the till all the time—I never looked at it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. Lee was the other side of the counter when I gave him the change—there were several shillings in the till when I shut it—nobody had been in besides the two prisoners before Mr. Pennington came in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-159" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS PENNINGTON</persName> </hi>. I reside at 162, High Street, Brentford, next door but one to the prosecutor's shop—on the 21st December I was in my shop, and I saw both prisoners looking in—I know them by sight—it was about 1.30—I watched them—Watts went towards Mr. Dale's shop; Lee stood at my window a few minutes and then went up that way—I saw Watts holding out a sack, and while he was doing that Lee came out of the shop—he put the sack down and walked over the bridge—I spoke to last witness, and he looked in the till and found the money gone—the prisoners' were standing in front of our shops about a quarter of an hour or 20 minutes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-160" type="surname" value="DALE"/>
<interp inst="t18840107-name-160" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH DALE</persName> </hi>. I am a corn merchant, at 160, High Street, Brentford—I received some information from the lad Edneyy, and I followed the prisoners—I found Lee in Mr. Watkins's shop, and I stopped him—there was 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. short in my till.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-161" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BROOKS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T.</hi> 3). On the 31st December I was on duty in Brentford—about 10 minutes to 2 o'clock I was called to Mr.</p>
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<p>Watkins's shop—the prosecutor gave Lee into my custody—I took him to the station and searched him, and found on him 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver, 13
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze, and a lace.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). On 27th December I took Watts into custody in Long Lane, Bermondsey—I told him the charge, and he said "I know nothing about it."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LEE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been convicted of felony on 11th September.</hi> 1882,
<hi rend="italic">at this Court, and Watts to having been convicted at South-wark on 3rd May.</hi> 1880.
<hi rend="largeCaps">LEE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-193-18840107 t18840107-193-punishment-25"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WATTS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18840107-193-punishment-26" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-193-18840107 t18840107-193-punishment-26"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>194.
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<interp inst="t18840107-194-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to
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<interp inst="t18840107-194-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="concealingABirth"/>unlawfully con
<lb/>cealing the birth of her child.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>195.
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<interp inst="t18840107-195-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/> to stealing a coat and other goods, and money to the amount of 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., belonging to
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-195-offence-1 t18840107-name-165"/>William Rainbow</persName>.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-195-18840107 t18840107-195-punishment-28"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
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<p>196.
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-196-offence-1 t18840107-name-167"/>Betsey Jane Harness</persName>, his wife being then alive.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-196-18840107 t18840107-196-punishment-29"/>Twenty Days Imprisonment.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18840107-196-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>197.
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<interp inst="t18840107-197-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>also to a burglary in the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18840107-197-offence-2 t18840107-name-170"/>William Lambert Watson</persName>.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18840107-197-punishment-30" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-197-18840107 t18840107-197-punishment-30"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour</rs>
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<interp inst="t18840107-197-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </hi> And</p> </div1>
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<p>198.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE WESTERN</hi> (38)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18840107-198-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/> to feloniously forging and uttering an order for the payment of 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and uttering the same knowing it to be forged.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-198-18840107 t18840107-198-punishment-31"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18840107-198-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January.</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1884.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hawkins.</hi> </p>
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<p>199.
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<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18840107-199-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>There was another indictment against the prisoner for feloniously shooting at the same person, with intent to murder, and with intent to do grieve bodily harm,</rs> </hi>
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<hi rend="italic">upon which.</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">for the prosecution, offered no evidence.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and.</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-178" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LISK</persName> </hi>. I live at 62, London Street, Copenhagen Street, Islington—I keep fowls—on Sunday night, 16th December. I locked up my fowl house at 10 o'clock—I had 12 fowls and a duck in the back yard—they were quite safe at 10 o'clock—I was awoke about 11.30 or 11.40 by my lodger Gilder rushing into my room saying that he had been nearly murdered by two men; I got up and sent him to the hospital with</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I know Webb by sight; he is a bird fancier and poultry dealer—I had not seen him that day; he lived in Somers Town, and I have seen him in the Cattle Market with live poultry.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-179" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN GILDER</persName> </hi>. I lodge at Lisk's house and am a house painter—at 11.30 on Sunday night, 16th December, I was going home to Mr. Lisk's house—I got over the wall from Bath Place, going on to the towing path—I walked along the towing path till I came to the wall of where I lodge—I noticed the hole in the wall had been enlarged, large enough to admit a man's body—Willoughby was standing close by the hole on the towing path—I said "What do you want? What are you doing there?"—he said "What is that to do with you?"—I said "I live there"—he said "Oh"—Webb came out from the yard through the hole on to the towing path with a crowbar in his hand—he did not speak, but lifted it up, and held it at the back of his head—I said "Don't hit me"—he brought it down on my head, and they both assailed me—I received four blows on my head; the wounds are getting better now—I was knocked down with the first blow, and then they repeated it three times—I put up my hand to protect my head, and received seven or eight blows on my hand—one of the leaders has gone from my finger—I cannot bend it straight now—I screamed out "Murder!" and "Police!"and anything I could think of—they put their hands over my mouth to prevent me, and there are several scratches where they took the skin off my face—then one of them said "Let's throw him" in—the canal runs alongside—I said "Don't throw me in"—I was near the side of the water—one caught hold of me, and I struggled, and he went in head first—I could not tell which—the other let go, went, to his friend's assistance, and I went the reverse way to Bath Place, and kept on calling out, and when they got out they came towards Bath Place to the wall which I had previously got over—I got over the wall into my master's yard—I aroused Mr. Lisk—I was covered with mud and blood from my head to my waist—my things down here were all spoilt—Mr. Lisk's son took me to the Great Northern Hospital—I had seen Webb before the night of the occurrence on three or four occasions selling birds in Somers Town—I went to the police-station on the Wednesday after the Sunday to identify the man—I saw seven or eight persons, and picked Webb out without the least hesitation as the man who had assaulted me—on the night of 27th December I went to Caledonian Road Station and saw seven or eight men standing together—I picked out Willoughby as the other who had assaulted me—I had no hesitation in the least in picking him out—I had not seen him before—I swear they, are the men—I had given descriptions of both the prisoners at the Great Northern Hospital on the night of the occurrence.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Webb.</hi> When I first saw you, you came through the hole out of the yard with the crowbar—you did not speak—it was a bright night, it had been raining a little and the moon came out—I was not stunned by the first blow, it crippled me—there was blood inside my hat—you and the other man took hold of me to throw me into the canal.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-180" type="given" value="WILLIAM DANIEL"/>WILLIAM DANIEL LISK</persName> </hi>. I am William Lisk's son, of 22, London Street—I was in in bed at 11.30 on this Sunday night—Gilder covered with blood and mud came into the house—I took him to the Great Northern Hospital, and then fetched the police and examined the back premises—I found eight dead birds in the yard and two in the bag—the noble in the wall had been made large enough for a man to get through—outside I found this poker on the bank of the canal, and about a yard from the hole on the towing path—next morning at a quarter-past 7 I found this crowbar about twelve feet from the hole on the bank—the poker belongs to us, and had been taken out of the house the night before—it had been placed to block up the hole I believe.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By the Jury.</hi> It was raining that night—I cannot say whether there was any moon.</p>
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<lb/>site to Mr. Lisk—I have known Webb about six years in the names of Wainwright and Poacher, he is a bird seller—on Sunday, the 16th of December, about ten minutes to 4 p.m., I went on to the wall of the towing path to look for my boy—standing outside Mr. Lisk's wall, talking together, I saw Webb and the other man to the best of my belief, his back was towards me—I hadn't known that man before—they were a yard, or not more than two yards, from the hole in the wall—I called my boy, Webb looked up to me, he didn't speak to me—I went home and heard no more till twenty minutes to 12 at night; I was sitting up to wake my husband to go to his work, he was in bed; I heard cries of "Murder" about eight times coming from the canal bank—I ran down stairs and called my husband's attention to it, and he looked out of window after I came upstairs again—Mrs. Lisk came to her front door and spoke to me, and after that I saw Gilder and Lisk's son go to the hospital and come back again—I have never had a quarrel with Webb.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Webb.</hi> I didn't ask you on the Monday before this happened for the girl Butler—about a month before, when my husband bought a bird of you, I said, "Do you know a girl of the name of Butler?"—she is my brother's girl, and he is in prison through you—I remember when my brother was locked up with you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18840107-name-182" type="given" value="FRANCIS ALEXANDER"/>FRANCIS ALEXANDER STOKES</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon of the Greet Northern Hospital—at 12.30 on Monday morning Gilder came to the hospital, and my assistant dressed his wounds—he was suffering from three scalp-wounds bleeding freely, and several lacerated wounds on his left hand—he had lost a fair amount of blood—this crowbar might have inflicted such injuries as he received.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Webb.</hi> He might have been hit by the end of that iron—I do not think that would have killed him if he had been hit three or four times, I think his hat and his hands were in the way; the end would have cut his hat.</p>
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