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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">McARTHUR, MAYOR. EIGHTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 23
<hi rend="italic">rd</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDMUND GRIDLEY</hi> (56)</persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which he had received on account of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810523-524-offence-1 t18810523-name-2"/>George Gibbs Stark</persName>, his master.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GLYNN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FULTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-3" type="given" value="GEORGE GIBBS"/>GEORGE GIBBS STARK</persName> </hi>. I am a flour dealer, of 9, Bood Lane, City; the prisoner has been for some time employed by my firm—in October, 1879, there was some difference of opinion between us; and he was dismissed—a fresh arrangement was then made; he was to receive 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year salary, and to obey my instructions punctually in everything—he wrote me this letter of 20th October, 1879, to that effect (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>)—if he got a customer he would produce to me a sale slip, with the particulars of the order; and when he paid me money he would produce a cash slip—it was his duty to make sales and collect money on such orders and pay it to me—he generally called daily at the office about 11.30—he always gave me the money, or paid it into his own bank for his own convenience and for safety—he only paid in coin, cheques he would hand to me—he produced this sale slip to me, dated 12th November, 1879, of the sale of 25 sacks of flour to Mr. Bonthron, at 43
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a sack; and on 20th March he gave me this cash slip for 49
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he paid me 49
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., I think—he did not account for 51
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I afterwards made inquiries of Mr. Bonthron about the transaction, and he told me something.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> At the time the prisoner entered my service I did not know that he had been in business for himself; I know it now—he was paid no commission, and no money for expenses—this letter was taken down by me and he copied it—when he was first dismissed he brought an action for wrongful dismissal—my defence was that he had not obeyed my orders—afterwards I found out that he had been embezzling; I have also charged him with forging my endorsement to cheques that he received and paid into his own bank, the Birkbeck—he has given me cheques on his bank for sums that he has received—I always believed they were for cash he had received, not cheques—he did not endorse the cheques he</p>
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<p>received, with my knowledge—I very rarely told him the price he was to get for flour; occasionally I have—I was satisfied with the price he got, if he could not get more; he was to get as much as he could—he has not complained of my not allowing discount or commission or expenses, that I swear; nor havelreplied,"Well, then, you must
<hi rend="italic">load</hi> the flour"—I know what that means—I know now that he has at times paid me more than he received from the customers—he had nothing to do with paying dock and granary charges—I have not gone into matters that occurred before I dissolved partnership with Mr. Bruce—the action in the Mayor's Court is not going on—I do not know that this prosecution has delayed it—I understand that he is now in employment in the same trade, in a rival business.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I dissolved partnership with Mr. Bruce on 31st March, 1877; I have not gone into the accounts before that—the prisoner never told me that he had paid in excess of the amount he had received—it is not possible to find out what the sums were for that he paid me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-4" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BONTHRON</persName> </hi>. I am a baker at 106, Regent Street—I have known the prisoner some time as traveller to Mr. Stark—on 17th November, 1879, I purchased of him 23 sacks of flour, at 45
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a sack, and on 15th March, 1880, I gave him this cheque for 51
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and produce his receipt.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">There were other indictments against the prisoner, but as the facts were the same</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GLYNN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">offered no evidence as to them, and a verdict of</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">NOT GUILTY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Six Months' Hard Labour.</hi> </rs> And</p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810523-527-offence-1 t18810523-name-8"/>Alexander Ridgway</persName>, threatening to murder him.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">To enter into recogni
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TORR</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THORNE COLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">In this case the Jury were of opinion that it was a quarrel between the parties, but no robbery.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 23
<hi rend="italic">rd</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-529-18810523 t18810523-529-punishment-4"/>Eighteen Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">For the case of</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. KEITH FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LEVY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Newman.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-16" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GRIMLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">the prisoner</hi>). I was 16 years old last birthday—I was in the service of Mr. Saillard, a feather manufacturer, of 85, Alders
<lb/>gate Street, City—I went into his service about nine or ten weeks ago—it was my duty to wash the feathers downstairs in the dye-room—they are beaten down there, washed, and fastened up in bundles of about 28 or 30 each—there were two other lads in the service, George Fisher and Caleb Jarvis; they left the service some weeks ago—Jarvis gave a week's notice to leave, about three weeks after I went there—Fisher gave a week's notice when Jarvis's week's notice was due, but he left a week after Jarvis, before his notice was due, he was dismissed—Fisher is about 17, Jarvis is about the same age—Fisher left on the Wednesday—the day after he left he spoke to me, and from what he said I stole about 30 feathers off the line in the dye-room—that was the first lot I took—I put them under my clothes and carried them away—I gave them to Fisher round a back turning, and he went down Aldersgate Street in the direction of Newman's coffee shop in Hare Court—I waited at the corner of Barbican—he returned in about 20 minutes without the feathers—he made a statement to me and gave me 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—about the day after I stole another lot of feathers, I think about 28, from the same place—I gave them to Fisher round the same back turning; he went in the same direction as before, and returned without the feathers—he did not give me any money then; he afterwards met me and gave me 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—about a week after I stole some more, about 28—I took them myself to New
<lb/>man; it was dinner-time; he was in the shop serving customers; he generally made a wink at me, as much as to say, "Have you got some feathers?"—I went out the back way with him, and gave the feathers to him—he said I was to come at night for the money—I was alone then—I went at night for the money, and Newman gave me 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I gave half to Fisher—Newman told me to get as many as I liked, and he would buy them of me—about a week after I got about 30 more—I gave them to Newman at his coffee-house at the dinner-hour; he gave me 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I gave Fisher half—when I gave him the fourth lot I went through the back way and halfway up the staircase and gave them to him—I did not take any more after that—I had another lot when the boy Munn found me out; that was on the 3rd May; I had got a lot under my clothes—after Jarvis left the service I used often to see him at Newman's in the dinner-hour.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was Fisher who first suggested robbing my master, and the moment he suggested it I undertook to do it—before I was at Mr. Saillard's I was working with my father; before that I was a telegraph messenger in the Post Office; I left there nine or ten months ago; I was dismissed for delaying a message—I only knew Fisher when I went to work at Mr. Saillard's; I was not friendly with him; I was</p>
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<p>working with him for about two weeks before he left—when the police-man took me into custody I began to cry—I said that the 28 feathers was the first lot I had taken; that was a lie—I had Counsel at Guildhall—I pleaded guilty there—I did not have to speak at all—I was remanded three times—I did not say I was guilty—I made up my mind from the beginning pretty nearly to plead guilty—I told the officer at Moor Lane that I had taken the feathers—I made a statement, and he took it down, and it was read at the police-court—I told the constable what feathers I had taken and who had received them—my parents got me a solicitor; they told me to tell the truth—I expect by making this statement it will be better for me—I used to go to this coffee-shop to dine, not before Fisher told me of it—I don't remember saying to Fisher at the coffee-shop, "He won't buy them;" I can't swear I did not—Fisher did not say to me, "Bill, if we ever get into trouble we will blame b——old Newman for it;" I swear that; I don't remember anything of the sort being said; I can't swear it, but I don't remember it; it did not pass; I will swear it was not said—I know the two servants at the coffee-shop, but I do not know their names—I always went halves with Fisher in what I got—I am very sorry now that I robbed my master; I have been sorry ever since I have been in charge.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-17" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE FISHER</persName> </hi>. I live at 67, Myrtle Street, Commercial Road—I am 17, years old—I was formerly in the service of Mr. Saillard—I know Jarvis and Grimley—I and Jarvis left; Grimley remained in the service—I left about eight weeks ago—the day after I left I saw Newman—I had been in the habit of using his coffee-house—he asked me if I would ask Grimley if he would get a string of feathers, and he would buy them—he knew that I had got discharged from Saillard's—I used to see Grimley at the coffee-house—I afterwards saw Grimley outside Mr. Saillard's—I told him what Newman had said to me, and he went down to Mr. Saillard's firm again and got a string of feathers; there are generally 20 or 30 in a string—he brought them out under his shirt, and gave them to me—I took them to Newman's—I gave them to Mrs. Newman in the lavatory—Mr. Newman gave me the money in the shop the same day—I told him I had given Mrs. Newman the feathers, and he gave me 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I won't be certain which—I gave Grimley 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and kept the remainder—Mr. Newman gave me the key to get into the lavatory; he told me I was to go and open the door of the lavatory and wait in there for a second, and Mrs. Newman would come to me—you can get to the lavatory without going through the coffee-shop—it is next door; there is a passage and a side door—Grimley got the next feathers—I did not see them; he told me he had got them, and he gave me 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. outside the coffee-shop—I saw him go in—two or three days afterwards he got another string of 28—I did not see them—he went into the coffee-shop; I was there as well, to dinner—he was there about a quarter of an hour—he used to have his dinner before he came out; he gave me 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on that occasion—there were three more occasions, I believe—I did not see the feathers on either of those three occasions—I saw Grimley the same day in the coffee-shop, and he afterwards gave me money; once he gave me 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I think twice 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.: that was my share; the last occasion was about four days before Grimley was taken into custody—I used to see Mr. Newman every day while this was going on—nothing passed between us as to these feathers—I gave the key of the lavatory to Mr. Newman when I found that Grimley was in custody on the 3rd—I was taken to the police-court by the police on the 4th—I was</p>
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<p>called as a witness, and gave evidence—Newman was not there at that time—I was not sworn on the first occasion, but I made a statement, and signed it—I went and saw Newman on the Wednesday, at half-past 2—I told him what I had said at Guildhall—I said that the gentleman asked me how many strings I had taken, and what I had had to do with them; what I knew about it, and what I had been receiving—Newman offered me 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to go right away; he said, "Don't be seen in it at all; you are putting me away"—he did not give me the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., he only offered it—Mrs. Newman said he had better wait till to-morrow morning, and see what turned up, and I went straight home—I did not go back to work any more that day—I told my landlady about it—on the Thursday morning Newman came round to my place, as I was coming out to dinner, about 1 o'clock—he was waiting outside for me, and he asked me if I would go to his solicitor—I said I would—I did not know what to do—he told me that I was to say to the solicitor that Grimley had asked me to ask Jarvis if he could get rid of any feathers, and that Newman told him to be honest; he told me to say that I had never seen any feathers there, or ever took any—he said if he got off he would give me 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I went with Newman to his solicitor, Mr. Chapman—I saw the clerk—I made a statement which the gentleman wrote down; Newman was there at the time—it was all written down at one time; there were two or three pages—I signed it—I was there about an hour—Mr. Newman then told me to go round to Mrs. Newman and tell her that I had been—he said I could make a home there, and I stayed there till Monday night, the 9th—my cousin then came and fetched me—I paid 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the previous Sunday Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday morning—I did not pay anything from the Thursday to the Monday—I was afterwards called again at the police-court on the Wednesday, and I was asked about the interview at the solicitor's—I then gave evidence on oath—at that time Newman was in custody—what I stated on oath was true—what I stated at the solicitor's office was not true.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was four months in Mr. Saillard's employ—I dis
<lb/>charged myself on the Friday—one of the chaps said I was larking about, and I got dismissed on the Wednesday, before the week was up—before that I had been employed at Pelham Black's, a match factory at Stratford—I was discharged from there because I was not scholar enough; I had been there two years—before that I was at a printer's in Clerkenwell—I left there to better myself at Pelham Black's—I never stole anything there, nor at the match factory; the first thing I stole was the feathers—until I got to taking my dinner at Newman's I was a perfectly honest boy, I never stole anything—I don't say I have not told a falsehood sometimes—it was the day after I left Saillard's that Newman suggested my stealing the feathers—he asked me to ask Grimley—I did steal one string of feathers; Newman asked me to do it—it was night time when he spoke to me; when I had done work—it was then he suggested stealing the feathers—I at once said I would do so—I stole them, and got the money for them—I only took him one string that I took myself, and one string that Grimley gave me to take—I don't know the date that I took the string myself; it was about eight weeks ago; about a fortnight before Grimley was in custody—that was the only time I saw Newman himself about the feathers—I have been in the shop with Grimley, but I did not see him hand the feathers over—I was about a month in the service with</p>
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<p>Grimley—he and I had never been engaged in stealing before—I did not know whether he would be willing to steal—after Newman spoke to me I said to Grimley, "I have been told if you can get a string of feathers some one will buy them of you," and he brought me the feathers in about five minutes—that was the string I took to Newman—Grimley's subsequent transactions were with Newman himself—he always shared the money with me—after I had given my statement at Guildhall, I went to Newman and told him that the detectives had fetched me away from my employ
<lb/>ment, and I had to go up to Moor Lane and Guildhall—I think I saw the two girls and Mrs. Newman first, and Newman came in while I was waiting there—I did not say to one of the girls that I had been to Guild-hall to make a statement which was not true; that was what Newman told me to say to his solicitor—it was on the Thursday that I went to Mr. Chapman's; that would be the next day after I went to Newman's—the statement I made to the solicitor was entirely untrue, a pack of lies from beginning to end—I told the truth at the police-court, and I am telling the truth to-day—Mr. Chapman's clerk took down the statement from my lips, read it over, and I signed it—I knew it was all untrue—I signed it because Newman told me just what to say—I thought I should get him off at that time—I do not remember being in the coffee shop one day before Grimley was taken, and his saying, "He won't buy them"—it was never said in my presence; nor did I answer, "Bill, if we get into trouble, we will blame b——old Newman for it;" that was what Newman told me to say—I did not say to Mrs. Newman that what I had said at Guildhall was untrue, and that I was very sorry for it—I never took any feathers to any place in Houndsditch, or said that the people there were very desperate people, and I was afraid we should be
<hi rend="italic">corpsed</hi>—that was what Newman told me to say—I had used his house about a fortnight before I was dis
<lb/>charged from the prosecutor's service.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-18" type="given" value="CALEB"/>CALEB JARVIS</persName> </hi>. I live in Lansdown Road, Leytonstone—I am not in any employment now; I was formerly in the employment of Mr. Saillard—I left about the same time as Fisher—I am going on for 17—after I left I went to Newman's coffee-shop—I had been in the habit of going there before I left—on one occasion, about three or four weeks after I left, Newman said to me, "Ask Grimley if he can get me any feathers, and I will buy them of him"—I said, "I will ask him," and I did, and I after
<lb/>wards saw some feathers given to Newman at his coffee-shop by Grimley—I can't say exactly what day it was; I think it was about three weeks after I had left Saillard's—they were ostrich feathers, tied up in a long string, I don't know how many—I saw that once or twice, and I saw Newman give him some money—the last time I saw it was I think the week before Grimley was taken—I knew where the feathers came from—I never took any, nor did I have any of the money—I have seen Fisher at Newman's; I never saw him with any feathers—I was sent for, and gave evidence at Guildhall—after that, I think on the Wednesday, Fisher came and told me that Newman wanted me, and Newman asked me to go to his solicitors to tell them that it was all false—he said, "Tell them you were frightened into telling lies by the constables"—he took me to his solicitors, and told me what to say—he was in the room at the time—I made a statement to the solicitor; it was false—the evidence I gave before the Magistrate was true.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He told me in the coffee-shop what to say, and then took me to the solicitors—I told the police the truth, but Newman put me</p>
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<p>up to telling lies—I saw Grimley hand the feathers over to Newman—I did not go into the shop with him—it was in the night time—I was not with them; they never knew I was there—I was in the passage next door—there is a glass window—I saw feathers pass two or three times.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-19" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MUNN</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Mr. Saillard—on the 3rd May I and Grimley were working together—I noticed a feather sticking out of his shirt—I spoke to the manager about it—I afterwards watched Grimley's box, and found that the feathers had been put behind there—no one had been there in the meantime.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-20" type="given" value="JOHN FREDERICK"/>JOHN FREDERICK WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Philip Saillard, feather manufacturer, 85, Aldersgate Street—these three lads were in our employment—on the 3rd May my attention was called to Grimley, and I spoke to him on the subject—some feathers were afterwards brought to me from behind his box—feathers are usually taken into a room below to be beaten, to get the starch out of them—the pith is taken out, and they are strung together, from 25 to 40 each—all these lads had access to them—Grimley had the opportunity of taking feathers away—they are easily put under the clothes in small quantities—the feathers found behind Grimley's box are worth about 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each; the average of those in Court would be about 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—we have missed quite 1,000 of these in two or three months.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> These feathers were damped, not ready dreased for wearing—there are several places in London where the process could be completed—they are saleable in this state, but not fit to wear.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 195). I took Grimley into custody on 3rd May—on the following morning he was taken before the Alderman—on that occasion George Fisher was there, and he made a statement, not on oath, which he signed—there was then a remand till the llth—Newman was subpoenæd to attend at Guildhall Police-court, and Fisher made his statement on oath—Newman was then charged with receiving—I had seen Fisher in the meantime—I saw him at the police-court on the 4th—I also saw Jarvis on the same day; they both made statements to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Newman attended as a witness at the police-court, and he was then charged—Grimley stated to Mr. Saillard that it was the first time he had stolen any feathers; that was when he was given into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He afterwards said it was not true; that he had taken five or six lots, but he was not certain how many.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-22" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY SAPSFORD</persName> </hi>. I live at 11A, Hare Court, Aldersgate Street, the prisoner's house; I am servant there—I wait in the coffee-shop, and all over the house—I knew these boys by their coming there to dinner—I knew that they worked for Messrs. Saillard—about four or five weeks ago, when I was clearing the table, I heard Fisher say to Grimley "He will not buy them, and if we ever get
<hi rend="italic">copped</hi> we will blame b——old Newman for them"—I told my fellow-servant, Ann Judge—I never told anybody else, only when I went with Mr. Newman to the solicitors—I heard on the Monday night that Grimley was taken into custody—on the Wednesday Fisher came into the coffee-shop and began crying; Mr. Newman was out at the time; he had gone for the dripping—Mrs. Newman and Judge asked him what was the matter; he said that the detectives took him to Guildhall, and he kept telling the truth, and</p>
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<p>they would not believe him, and they made him make a statement—Mrs. Newman said, "Wait till Mr. Newman comes in;" and when he came in he said, "Well, George, what is the matter?" he said he had been up to Guildhall and made a statement; he said, "If that is the case we will get a solicitor;" Fisher said, "I am willing to come with you to alter my statement;" Mr. Newman said, "Well, if you are in the same mind to
<lb/>morrow as you are now you can come to-morrow," and he came on the Thursday, at half-past 1, at dinner time, and went with Mr. Newman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was about five or six weeks ago that I heard this con
<lb/>versation with Fisher and Grimley, in the shop, having their dinner—I came away directly I heard it—they were always outside the door whispering together—I did not know what they meant by "he will not buy them"—I did not know it meant feathers—I did not know what "copped" meant; I knew it meant caught—I never mentioned it to Mr. or Mrs. Newman—Grimley did not sleep there on the Thursday night, Mr. Newman would not have him there all night; he never had any bed; he slept on one of the shop tables, because Mrs. Newman could not get him out: we had no bed for him—I know that he remained there till the Monday, but he paid his bill on the Saturday night to Mr. Newman—he was only there about two or three nights, I don't know what he did, he either sat on the seat or laid on the table.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I went to bed—I never saw any feathers there—Thursday was the first night he slept there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. There is a passage next door; it is all one house; there is a lavatory there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-23" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN JUDGE</persName> </hi>. I am fellow-servant of the last witness, and in the employ of the prisoner—I serve in the coffee-shop—about five or six weeks ago Sapsford told me something she had overheard—I told her not to say anything to Mrs. Newman, because it would upset her—on the Wednesday after, Fisher came in and went to the last table in the shop, and was crying—Mrs. Newman and I and Sapsford were there—Mr. Newman had gone for the dripping—we asked Fisher what was the matter—he said that two detectives had come to his shop and taken him to Guildhall to make a statement; that he told them the truth over and over again, but they would not believe him, but they so frightened him to make a state
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am in the service now.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. A. B. KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-29" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL POOLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a carman, of 29 Stanmore Street, Homers Town—on Saturday night, 11th May, about 11, I was walking in St. Pancras Road, when three men came behind me; one got hold of one shoulder, and one the other—they said, "Down with the b——," and I was pulled down to the ground on my back—one of them fell across my face, and hands went into my pockets—I had 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. loose in my pocket, I had seen it about 12 minutes before when I was at King's Cross, at the corner of St. Pancras Road—as the men were going away I stuck to one of their legs, but my hold was broken—I called out "Police!"—I recognised the prisoner's face—he got away, and the constable brought him back in about a minute or two; he was one of the three—I missed my 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and the key of my street door—I had had a little more drink that evening than I ought to have had, but I remember what happened.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had been over in the Borough to see some friends, and was returning home—I had something to drink with my friends—the last public-house I was in was at King's Cross—I had only been in one public-house that day; that was the Blue-eyed Maid, in the Borough—I had two glasses of ale at the Brewers' Arms, in St. Pancras Road, about 6 o'clock; I then went and did up my horses—I was not the worse for drink then, but I had a glass or two at one place and another—I took out my money to pay for what I had—I don't remember hitting the prisoner on the nose, or hitting any one that night.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-30" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BLAKE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 540). I was on duty in St. Pancras Road about a quarter to 11—I heard cries of "Police" and "Murder"—I ran to the corner, and saw the prosecutor lying on his back, and the prisoner and two others stooping over him—they left him and came towards me; I stepped back in the dark, and as they passed me one of them said "Have you got it?" there was no answer—the second one said "Oh,
<hi rend="italic">blind me</hi>, have you not got it?" and the prisoner said "Don't stop here"—I was close to him and I caught hold of him by the arms, and said "Hold on, old man"—the other two went away as fast as they could—the prisoner said "What is the matter?" I said "That is just what I want to know; I imagine you know what is the matter across the road"—he said "I have not done nothing; "I said" I did not say you had, but you will have to go across the road"—he said "I shan't"—I said "You will;" he said "I am a hard-working man"—I said "You are a perfect stranger to me, jou will have to go across the road"—I took hold of his arm, and he soon capsized me—I got up and we had a struggle, and then he went down—he then said "Governor, I will take your advice, and I will go across the road," and I said "I don't know what sort of a game you are having, but it is a fine game at present"—he got up on his feet and said "I will tell you the truth; I was walking along the road, and not saying a word to any one, and he hit me a knock on the nose, and I hit him a b——smack and knocked him down; he is a big man"—I</p>
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<p>took him up to the prosecutor, and he said "You vagabond; con
<lb/>stable, this man has robbed me and the other two of 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and here is my pocket," and he showed me his pocket—the prisoner said "No, you have made a mistake, I have never seen you before;" the prosecutor said "Yes, you caught hold of me behind"—the prisoner said "Well, look here, I will give you 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. if you want 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; I never robbed you, man; if I give you 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. what will you do with me?"—I said "You will have to come to the station with me, and if he has the money you shall have it"—at the station the prosecutor said "If he has 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. you will find it in his pocket;" he said "I have 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., but not a halfpenny belonging to you"—I felt that he had money in his hand—another constable kept hold of him, but he slipped the money into, his pocket—I searched it, and found 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze, and some of the silver shows that it has been scrambled on the ground.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> A sixpence had some dirt on it—I did not see the money in his hand; I felt something hard in it—he had his hand clenched—he never opened it—I did not find a doorkey on him—the prosecutor was not sober, he was three-parts drunk.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-533-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">to a previous conviction.**—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Detective Sergeant</hi>). The prisoner spoke to me about his conviction—he said "I think you might have left out about my previous conviction after giving you the information about the property."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Welch.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Other ships unloaded oranges that day, but not of that</p>
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<p>quality—100 men were, I dare say, unloading—I identify the ship marks, and if the oranges were put on a table I could pick them out—they are not here, it is three weeks ago, and they would not keep.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 719). I received instructions from Baylis on 5th May, and went next morning, shortly after 7, to Pudding Lane, and at a quarter to 8 I saw the prisoners and a man not in custody come up to the Bell gateway wheeling a barrow—Welch and the man not in custody left Prose with the barrow, and went down the gate
<lb/>way into Messrs. Nash and Jack's warehouse, and came out in a few minutes, each carrying a fish barrel on his back made up with straw on the top, to represent barrels of fresh herrings, and bearing Nash and Jack's mark—they put them on to the barrow, and Pross went down the gateway again, and brought a third fish barrel out and put it on the barrow, and the prisoners wheeled it away—the other man, who I know, went on to the wharf again—I followed the prisoners into King William Street, where I stopped Welch, and asked him what he had apt in the barrels; he said "I don't know, some man asked me to push the barrow up the hill for him"—I asked Pross what he had got in the barrels—he said" I don't know, some man asked me to take three barrels to Leather Lane and he would give me 18
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.?"—I put my hand in the barrels, and found they contained oranges—I produced a sample of them at the police-court—we took the prisoners to the station—I went to Nash and Jack's warehouse, and found secreted on the first floor on a lot of empty fish trunks an empty orange box marked "R. R.," which Mr. Shelley identified—I know the prisoners by sight—Welch was occasionally employed there—he was not one of the gang, but he worked for the gang, for the firm—Nash and Jack do not deal in oranges—the lid of one of the boxes, marked "F. P.," was put into one of the barrels.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-40" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES TWICKETT</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Keeling and Hunt—on 6th May we were receiving oranges from the ship Sabrina—they were portered by the orange porters' gang—the boxes were marked "F. P."—the bill of lading was for 119 boxes, and we only received 118—they were Malagas and Valencias—I saw two barrels and a half of oranges at the station, one of which was marked "F. P.," and contained Malaga oranges, and I have no doubt those which we missed—we were actually two boxes short by that ship; the other was marked "K. K.," which I have not traced—the two and a half barrels contained 800 or 900 oranges, hardly sufficient for three boxes—I have seen Welch carrying oranges, and I think for this gang.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was a casual labourer at the waterside, ready to pick up any job.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-41" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SHELLEY</persName> </hi>. I am foreman to Messrs. Adams, orange merchants—on 5th May we were removing oranges from the Sabrina, which were being delivered by the orange porters' gang—the boxes were marked "B. B."—we received one box short—a box marked "R. R." was brought to me, and I identified it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoners' statements before the Magistrate. West says</hi>: "The man who is not here, engaged me to carry out two barrels."
<hi rend="italic">Pross says</hi>: "I was standing in Love Lane, and a man engaged me to go from the Bell to Leather Lane with two barrels for eighteenpence. When I got there Welch brought one barrow, and another man another barrel. I objected to take the three barrels for the price I had engaged to take two for, and he said 'All right."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RAVEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-45" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-45" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY WORSLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a hackney carriage driver, badge 11937, and live at 40, Harrison Street, Gray's Inn Road—on Saturday night, 14th May, about 11.50, I was with my cab at the corner of Ton
<lb/>bridge Street, Euston Road—I went into a public-house for two seconds, and when I came out I saw the prisoner driving my cab away—I ran after him, but could not catch, him—I called another cab, and stood on the springs and followed him to Barnsbury Road, nearly two miles—I jumped down, and he let the horse and cab go—I caught hold of him, and he threw away this badge, 6659—I know him by sight driving a cab—he was sober—the horse and cab are worth about 45
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it is a hansom belong to Mr. Robins; I am only the driver.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There was another man inside the house—there are a lot of compartments—it stands back from the road, and there is a piece of waste land in front.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I caught him because I had the best horse.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 232). I was on duty in Penton Street, Clerkenwell, about 12 o'clock and saw the prisoner driving a cab at the rate of about 15 miles an hour; he was whipping the horse, and driving as fast as he could—I halloed to him, but he did not stop—a hansom cab was following 400 or 500 yards behind him, and when I got up Cardy had the prisoner on the pavement—he was charged with stealing the cab—this badge was given to me—the prisoner did not speak—he was sober, I think—I got inside the cab with him, and he did not smell of spirits.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate was that a man treated him to drink, said that the cab was his, asked him to take a drive, and gave him his badge; that the other cab ran him down, and he was given in custody.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-536-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-536-18810523 t18810523-536-punishment-10"/>Twelve Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esquire.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">The cer
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810523-538-offence-1 t18810523-name-51"/>William Palmer</persName> and stealing three sets of harness.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-52" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COOK</persName> </hi>. I am a sadler, of 16, Little Guilford Street—on the 12th May the prisoner came to me and said he had two sets of harness to sell—I asked him about it, and he gave me the address, 17, Devonshire Street, Theobald's Road—I did not buy the harness—I made inquiries at the address given, and found nobody who knew anything about it—I communicated with the police—I have known the prisoner some time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I have known you two years—I never knew anything about your character.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the stables are one building; no one could get into them without breaking into the house.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 273). On 12th May, about 7.15,1 kept observation on the shop in Little Guilford Street—the prisoner came; I followed him with another constable—I asked him several questions about the harness; I told him I should take him into custody for stealing it—he said he did not steal it, it was given to him by some man in the neighbourhood of Theobald's Road, and took it to Mr. Cook's to sell, but he did not know the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I am perfectly innocent.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DUFF</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-57" type="surname" value="PALMER"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-57" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY PALMER</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">repeated his evidence, and added</hi>, "The prisoner left the harness in my shop."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman E</hi> 274). On the evening of the 12th May I went to Mr. Cook's shop from Mr. Thacker's—Mr. Cook told me about the harness—the prisoner came in—I asked him where he got the harness from—he said, "A man you will find at 17, Devonshire Street, Theobald's Road, gave it to me"—I went there—no one there knew anything about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Defence.</hi> The person who gave me the harness said he lived at 17, Devonshire Street.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS BROWN</hi> (21)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE ALLEN</hi> (19)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DUFF</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Allen.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-63" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MAYNARD</persName> </hi>. On the 7th inst. I was taking my daughter home from my sister-in-law's—in Wilkins Street I waited to light my pipe—my daughter went on—she was dragged across the road—I found her lying on the kerb by a lamp, with Redhead's arm round her waist—Redhead knocked me down, and all of them came on the top of me—they knocked my hat off—one of them said, "We don't want his hat, we want his ring"—one of them held my hand and another took the ring—my</p>
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<p>finger was bitten—I identify Bedhead as the one who knocked me down.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. Redhead took the ring, Brown held my hand—the ring was not loose—it is my wife's—I had no power to defend myself—I did not say a word to the constable about losing my ring because the prisoners were not apprehended—I did tell the inspector about it at the station—I gave evidence on the 7th May, and again on the 9th—I missed my ring on the night of the occurrence—I did not speak of it on the 7th because Bedhead was not apprehended—nobody was looking on because it was late at night—I never said, "Kick him"—they kicked me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-64" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES MILLER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant</hi>). In consequence of information I received, I apprehended Bedhead on the 7th inst. at a lodging-house in the Prince of Wales's Boad, called the Grafton Chambers—I told him I should take him for an assault on Mr. Maynard, and taking his ring from his finger—I apprehended Brown at Hounslow on the 13th—he said, "I was there with Allen; Bedhead caught hold of the girl; she smacked his face, then he threw her down, her father came to her assistance, and he struck him; but if Bedhead stole the ring I know nothing about it, but stood by and did nothing."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. The prosecutor first mentioned about stealing the ring when Allen was charged with an indecent assault—when he was asked why he did not mention it before, he said, "Because Allen did not take any part in stealing the ring."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-65" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN MAYNARD</persName> </hi>. On the morning of the 7th inst. I was going home with my father—one of the prisoners threw me down—father came up and asked me what they were doing—one of the prisoners gave father a violent blow—I halloæd out "Police!" and the prisoners ran away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. My father did not say anything to the inspector about losing his ring because he had his finger bit—Allen took no part in the robbery.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Redhead's Defence.</hi> All Maynard says is false; I knocked up against his daughter, she smacked my face, and called her father; he collared me and we both fell in the road together—I did not take the ring or any
<hi rend="italic">Brown's Defence</hi>, It is all false; I never went near one of them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for Brown.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-66" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-66" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-66" type="given" value="MARIA"/>MARIA JONES</persName> </hi>. On Saturday morning, 7th May, I was at the corner of Wilkins Street—Brown did not strike Maynard—I did not see him go near the young woman—Brown was on the left-hand side of the path.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">REDHEAD</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction of felony in December</hi>, 1878,
<hi rend="italic">at Middlesex Sessions.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-540-18810523 t18810523-540-punishment-11"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ALLEN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810523-540-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Lord Chief Justice Coleridge.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> a libel attempting to justify the crime of assassination and murder.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>, with intent to incite persons to conspire against the lives of the Sovereigns of Europe.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> for encouraging and endeavouring to persuade persons to murder the Sovereigns and Rulers of Europe.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. A. M. SULLIVAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER WILLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> newspaper of 19th March—I produce one of those copies—I recognise it by the initials—I cannot swear to the identity of of the man of whom I bought the copies of the paper—they were delivered to me in the front parlour of the house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am a linguist by profession—I went to this place for the paper because in the course of casual conversation it was spoken of, and especially the first article in it, both exciting my curiosity—they were spoken of to me by a friend of mine—I decline to give names—I was not sent by the parties who are really responsible for the article—I bought the four copies—I read the article—it was not sympathy with the article that took me there, it was a natural curiosity arising from the fact that I had lived a long time in Russia for one thing, and that I had lived a long time in Germany for another—when I read the article I enclosed a copy of it to a Member of Parliament (Lord George Hamilton), and asked him to inquire of the Government whether proceedings would not be taken in the case—on reading the article I was very much disgusted both with the tenour of it and the tendency, and from this disgust and other considerations I felt a strong impulse to come forward and volunteer my evidence.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-69" type="given" value="PHILIP JOSEPH"/>PHILIP JOSEPH HALL</persName> </hi>. I am a commission agent, and carry on business at No. 2, Well Court, in the Minories—I have been in the habit of selling copies of the German newspaper called the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi>—I first of all purchased those copies from an office in Percy Street, then afterwards at Rose Street, and afterwards at the office of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi>, 101, Titchfield Street—I know the defendant, and I have seen his wife, Mrs. Most—I could not swear exactly to her—I have seen the defendant several times at Percy Street, also at Rose Street; several times I have seen him at Titchfield Street; I have bought some copies of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi>—sometimes Mr. Most used to serve me, and sometimes somebody else used to be there—I bought a number of copies of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> with the red border round it of 19th March at the office in Titchfield Street—of the first edition I bought, I think it was four or five dozen, but of the second edition I could not get sufficient—I had an order for more than I could get—I think I bought two or three dozen of the second edition—I sold all those, and could have sold a great many more if I had them—I sold them in the ordinary way of business to my regular customers—I think they generally used to make a second edition of the red border—that used to come out every year upon the nominal day of the Revolution of 1848, of which I used to be a member—there had been no previous copy with a red border round it this year, but last year, on the same date, and every year on the nominal day, the 18th March, the date of the Revolution.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I do not personally read the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I sold these copies to customers in the ordinary way of</p>
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<p>business for the purpose of being read—I don't sell newspapers in the shop; they are ordered from me—I only sell French and German papers—I sell the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> to those who order it from me.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-70" type="surname" value="DAVIS"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-70" type="given" value="RICHARD ROBERT"/>RICHARD ROBERT DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I am a newsagent, carrying on business at Ludgate Hill, at the corner of the Imperial Arcade—for some years prior to 19th March, 1881, I have had the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> for sale—we received 14 copies per week—I never went to Titchfield Street; I received the copies by post, sold what I could, and what were unsold a collector called for, and I paid the collector—I do not remember how many copies I received on 19th March of this particular number that there was this bother about—they were sold out, and more supplied—there was a greater demand than for others—they were mostly a number of gentlemen who applied for these copies; we usually sell the copies to respectable working men.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-71" type="surname" value="WARD"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-71" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). On 29th of last month I went to 101, Great Titchfield Street—I saw the prisoner there—I asked for a copy of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> of 19th March; I spoke to him in German—he said there were no more of those numbers left, that they had had printed a second edition, but for the sale of the few they might still get rid of it was not worth while printing any more—I told him that I had a friend or some one to whom I should like to give one—he then gave me two printed sheets, which he said contained the leading article, and he supposed that was the principal thing I wanted—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is one of them—he took them off a pile about four inches in depth on a shelf.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was in plain clothes—I spoke German to him; I tried to look as like a German as possible—I asked for a copy of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi>; I told him it was the article with the red border round it—I said, "Will you oblige me with a copy if you have it, as I wish to send it to my friends?"—I wanted to buy it; the friend was a pretence—he then said they were all sold out—I was sorry for that—I did not say I was sorry; I looked it; I put on a regretful countenance—after a little conver
<lb/>sation about trifles, he said, "I have got some left; some reprints," and he gave me two of them—the conversation was merely relating to the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi>, but not on details that were written in it, because I had not read the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> myself before going into the shop—I had seen no other copy before; I had heard of it—the conversation by which I induced him to give me the copy was that I was very sorry he had not one, as I really wished to send my friend one or two if I could get them, and I could not find out where I could get them now—I had never watched this office of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> before; I had never seen or heard of the prisoner before—I am a detective, but not on duty in the City of London—I was never sent on this sort of duty before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I was instructed by my superiors to obtain a copy of this newspaper, for the purposes of justice, whatever they might be—I did not announce myself as an officer—this was a front room of the first floor, and this pile was in the room, and the prisoner took the two copies from it.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-72" type="given" value="HENRY JAMES"/>HENRY JAMES BALE</persName> </hi>. I carry on business as a printer in Great Titchfield Street; I am in partnership with my brother there—I know Johann Most, the prisoner, by that name; I have known him two years, I should think—I was originally employed to print the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> by a person of the name of Weber; that was two years ago last Christmas—I knew the prisoner in connection with that newspaper about the time it was first commenced—he</p>
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<p>simply came with others in reference to the matter, in the first instance—at first we used to set up the type from the written manuscript, and print—the prisoner has paid me personally for printing the newspaper—he first commenced to do so during the 12 months preceding last Christ
<lb/>mas—during the year 1880 we printed 1,200 copies—it was a weekly paper—these are bills made out by me and addressed to Herr Most; they are bills for the printing of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> newspaper, and other things are included—one is receipted; they are headed at the top, "August 17th, 1880, Herr Most," and then comes the charge—we altered the mode of business and ceased to set up the type at Christmas, 1879, or at the end of the year—the type was then set up in Percy Street, I believe, and afterwards at 101, Great Titchfield Street—the type so set up was brought to us for the purpose of being printed—prior to March, 1881, the prisoner continued his connection with the paper just the same, and continued to pay us—other persons besides the prisoner paid us; various people, at different times, called with the money—I believe I never made out the bills to any one but the prisoner—he himself used personally to come sometimes to pay for the printing of the
<hi rend="italic">Freheit</hi>—his name appeared originally as editor of the newspaper, upon its face—it was reduced in size and then the name was removed and no other name appeared—Most's name appeared up to the end of 1879, I believe—I printed this article of 19th March—I do not understand German; I did not know its contents; I printed it as it was—I retained a copy; I can tell it by looking at it, because there is a signature upon it—that is the copy—for this copy the type came to us in the usual way from Titchfield Street—we printed two editions; the first numbering 1,200, the usual number, and the second 500, I think—we had printed a second edition before, I think, but not as a usual thing—we had never printed the paper with a red border before this; we had printed one on red paper, and we printed one, with red ink—that slip (
<hi rend="italic">produced by police-constable</hi>) was not printed by me, but looking at it as a skilled witness I should say it was printed from the same type that was brought to us to print the copies from.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We saw Weber a good deal about this paper at first during the first twelve months—I can't say whether I saw Weber about it oftener than the prisoner; they came together—I never heard why we were told to remove the prisoner's name from the paper.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Weber has not interfered lately before March in connection with the paper—the prisoner was the person with whom I dealt.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SULLIVAN</hi>. Englehart is a compositor who works for us.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ATTORNEY-GENERAL</hi>. Englehart never paid us for publishing the paper.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-73" type="surname" value="BANGERT"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-73" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BANGERT</persName> </hi>. I am the landlord of No. 101, Great Titchfield Street; it is a private house—I know the defendant Herr Most; he lived there—the front parlour on the ground floor was his room—he came to occupy that room two months before Christmas—he paid me the rent, 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—besides that room there was a workshop in the back yard; it was taken as a printing room by two gentlemen—it was used for printing—I don't know whether the defendant had anything to do with it—Mr. Sleskey, a lodger, paid for it first, but Mr. Most paid afterwards, when he came to my place—it was used for printing a little, while before the defendant came to live at my house, and afterwards when the defendant</p>
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<p>came to live there he paid me for the rent of that printing-office 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week—after that I knew that my house was the publishing office of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit.</hi> </p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-74" type="surname" value="HAGAN"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-74" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HAGAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). On 30th March, at 4.45 p.m., I went to the house of Most in Titchfield Street—I saw him in the printing-office at the back of the yard—I asked him if he was Johann Most; he said "Yes"—I told him in English that I was an inspector of police, and had a warrant for his arrest—I asked him if he understood English well enough, or if I should read it in German; he said "You had better read it in German," and I did so—he called a man named Martin, a compositor, and made a few observations to him which I did not hear, and then he took what he had out of his pocket and put it on the bench before him—I told him he could not give those things to Martin, he must either place them back in his pocket or I must take possession of them—he left them on the bench, and I took them up—before I read the warrant he said "I expected this, because I see in this morning's paper there is to be a prosecution;" he had a morning paper in his hand—he said this in German—he said "I suppose this is in consequence of my article on the Czar;" I said "Yes, it is"—after I had read the warrant he said "It does not appear from that warrant who is the instigator of this"—I said "The warrant is signed by Sir James Ingham, the chief Magistrate at Bow Street, and I have to execute it, and that is all I know about it"—there was some type there set up ready for printing, and a quantity of loose type—I handed them to the witness Barrett—as I was about re
<lb/>moving the type the prisoner said to me "Before you remove those things I beg to draw your attention to the fact that they are not my exclusive property; they belong to an association of persons, of whom I am one"—this piece of paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) was in this small pocket-book, which I took possession of—I then went into the front parlour, and saw some copies of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi> of 19th March found in that room—the prisoner was taken to the station, and asked in the usual way his name and occupation; he said "I am the editor of the
<hi rend="italic">Freiheit</hi>, and a literary man."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am a German—I have been nearly 24 years in the police—I knew the prisoner by sight before I called on him; I had heard of him—I knew by hearsay that he had been connected with the
<hi rend="italic">Freheit</hi>—I have never looked after a German political refugee—I have no especial knowledge of that description—I did not give him any caution that I should mention anything he said to me—I knew he was a foreigner and a stranger—he knew I was a police-officer; my first words to him were that I was a police inspector, but I gave him no caution as to the answers he might make to my questions—I found an enormous quantity of papers, besides those I have produced, and some loose type—I took possession of that property under the authority of the Director of Criminal Investigation; the warrant I had did not authorise me to seize it—the documents found were handed over to the Director, and sealed up imme
<lb/>diately; I saw them sealed—they are sealed still, with the exception of this piece, which the Treasury have taken out; that was in the little purse—I don't know whose handwriting it is, it is evidently not the prisoner's—I never noticed this drawing on the back of it, I can't tell what it is—I did not see a Mr. Hartmann about the office; I never saw him; I was never sent to look after him—the prisoner had the
<hi rend="italic">Standard</hi> in his hand when he said "I expected this"—since those documents</p>
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<p>were handed over to the authorities I have only seen the outside of the envelope, nothing more; they have not been used to my knowledge—they were examined before they were put into the envelope, and a list made of them—I have a copy of that list.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner knew from the first moment I went to his place of business that I was police-officer, and that I was acting in the execution of my duty upon a warrant—I did not keep that fact from him for one moment; as soon as he came into the office I said "I am an inspector of police"—when I took possession of the type I had no evidence in my possession as to the printing of the newspaper—the loose type was afterwards returned—a good many of the documents consisted of pamphlets and circulars—such documents as were required for the investigation at the police-court were handed over to the officials of the Treasury; the others were placed in the hands of my superior officers—no application has ever been made for the production of them, to my knowledge.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-75" type="given" value="GUSTAV"/>GUSTAV REINICH</persName> </hi>. I am German master at the King's College School—I have read the article as set out in the indictment, and have also gone carefully through the translation of it with the original—it is a correct translation.
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>:</p>
<p>"At last! "Seize on this one, seize on that one, "'Some one, nevertheless, will reach thee.'—
<hi rend="smallCaps">C. BEEK</hi>.</p>
<p>"Triumph! Triumph! the word of the poet has accomplished itself. One of the most abominable tyrants of Europe, to whom downfall has long since been sworn, and who therefore, in wild revenge breathings, caused innumerable heroes and heroines of the Russian people to be destroyed or imprisoned—the Emperor of Russia is no more. On Sunday last at noon, just as the monster was returning from one of those diversions which are wont to consist of eye-feastings on well-drilled herds of stupid blood-and-iron slaves, and which one calls military reviews, the executioner of the people, who long since pronounced his death sentence, overtook and with vigorous hand struck down the brute. He was once more on the point of drivelling about the 'God's finger,' which had nearly saved his accursed life, when the fist of the people stopped his mouth for ever. One of those daring young men whom the social revolutionary movement of Russia brought forth, Risakoff—with reverence we pronounce his name—had thrown under the despot's carriage a dynamite bomb, which effected a great devastation on the conveyance and the immediate neighbourhood, yet left the crowned murderer to pray uninjured. Michaelovitch, a princely general, and others at once fell upon the noble executor of the people's will. The latter, however, with one hand brandishes a dagger against the autocrat's face, and with the other hand guides the barrel of a revolver against the breast of the same. In an instant he is disarmed, and the belaced, be
<lb/>tufted, and by corruption eaten through and through retinue of the Emperor breathe again on account of the supposed averted danger. There flies a new bomb neat this time. It falls down at the despot's feet, shatters for him the legs, rips open for him the belly, and causes among the surrounding military and civil Cossacks numerous wounds and annihilations. The personages of the scene are as if paralysed, only the energetic bomb-thrower does not lose his presence of mind, and is able safely to fly. The Emperor, however, is dragged to his palace, where yet for an hour and a half he is able, amid horrible sufferings, to meditate on his life full of crimes. At last he died. This in reference to the simple state of facts. Instantly the telegraph wires played up to the remotest corners of the earth to make the occurrence known to the whole world. The effect of this publication was as various as it was drastic. Like a thunderclap it penetrated into princely palaces, where dwell those crims-beladen abortions of every profligacy who long since nave earned a similar fate a thousandfold. For three years past has many a shot whistled by the ears of these monsters without harming them. Always and always again could they indemnify themselves in princely fashion for the fright endured by executions and regulations of the masses of all kinds. Nay, just in the most recent period they whispered with gratification in each other's ears that all</p>
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<p>danger was over, because the most energetic of all tyrant haters—the 'Russian Nihilists '—had been successfully exterminated to the last member.</p>
<p>"Then comes such a hit! William, Prince of Prussia, the now Protestant Pope and soldier Emperor of Germany, got convulsions in due form from the excitement. Like things happened at other Courts. Howling and gnashing of teeth prevailed in every residence. But the other rabble, too, which in the other various countries pulls the wires of the Government mechanism of the ruling classes, experienced a powerful moral headache and melted in tears of condolence, whether it consisted merely of head lackeys on the steps of an Imperial throne or of Republican bandits of order of the first class. The whimpering was no less in France, Switzerland, and America than in Montenegro or Greece. A Gambetta carried through the adjournment of the Chambers, and thereby put an insult on France from which even Austria was saved by the then President of the Reichsrath. Public opinion is startled, and seeks in vain for the reasons of such a miserable attitude. One thinks of diplomatic motives and the like, but one misses the mark. Much, perhaps, may indeed have contributed here snd there which resembles mere political hypocrisy. In the main the grounds lie deeper. The supporters of the ruling classes see just in the destruction of an autocrat which has taken place more than the mere act of homicide itself. They are face to face with a successful attack upon authority as such. At the same time they all know that every success has wonderful power, not only of instilling respect, but also of inciting to imitation. From Constan
<lb/>tinople to Washington they simply tremble for their long since forfeited heads. This fright is a high enjoyment for us; just as we have heard with the most joyful feelings of the heroic deed of those social revolutionaries of St. Petersburg who slaughtered the tyrant on Sunday last. In this time of the most general humility and woe, at a period when in many countries old women only and little children yet limp about the political stage with tears in their eyes, with the most loathsome fear in their bosoms of the castigating rod of the State night-watchman, now, when real heroes have become so scarce, such has the same effect on better natures as a refreshing storm. Let some say behind our backs we are carrying on a 'game with Nihilists'; let others blame us as cynical or brutal; yet we know that in expressing our joy at the successful deed we were disclosing not only our own feelings, but were also giving utterance to what millions of men, down-trodden and tyrannised over, thought with us when they read of the execution of Alexander. To be sure it will happen once and again that here and there even Socialists start up who, without that any one asks them, assert that they for their part abominate regicide, because such an one after all does no good, and because they are combating not persons, but institutions. This sophistry is so gross that it may be confuted in a single sentence. It is clear—namely, even to a mere political tyro, that State and social institutions cannot be got rid of until one has overcome the persons who wish to maintain the same. With mere philosophy you cannot so much as drive a sparrow from a cherry-tree any more than bees are rid of their drones by simple humming. On the other hand, it is altogether false that the destruction of a Prince is entirely without value because a substitute appointed beforehand forthwith takes his place. What one might in any case complain of is only the rarity of so-called tyrannicide. If only a single crowned wretch were disposed of every month, in a short time it should afford no one gratification henceforward still to play the monarch. Moreover, it is certainly a satisfaction for every right-thinking man when such a capital criminal is done away with—
<hi rend="italic">i.e.</hi>, is punished according to his evil deeds. It does not occur to the jurists of civil society to hang no murderer or to lock up no thief because it is proved that these punishments do not remove murder and theft (both institutions of this society) out of the world. When one has entirely to do with such a subject as Alexander Romanow was, then one must accept his destruction with double satisfaction. If one could believe newspaper writers, then one must, according to their chatter, take it that the extermi
<lb/>nated Czar was a real pattern of benevolence. The facts prove that he belonged to the worst doers of abominations that have ever disgraced humanity. Some 100,000 men were banished to Siberia during his reign, dozens were hanged after they had suffered the cruellest tortures. All these victims the Russian Crown Moloch claimed only because those concerned were striving for the improvement of society, wishing for the general welfare, perhaps had only passed on a single forbidden book, or written one letter in which a censure on the Government was expressed. Out of the war abominations which this tyrant conjured up we take but one scene from the last Turkish war. Alexander was celebrating his name-day, and wished a warlike spectacle. He ordered a storming of Plevna. The generals ventured to call to mind that such an one would not only fail, but would cost an enormous number of men. In vain! The order stood good, and in order</p>
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<p>to witness the slaughter with more gratification the tyrant caused a special stand with a kind of Imperial box to be erected for himself, whence he might watch the storring without himself falling into danger. The result corresponded with the predictions of the generals. The storming was repulsed, and 8,000 dead and wounded covered the ground outside the walls of Plevna. But the 'little father', as the despot by preference caused himself to be called, had amused himself cannibalistically. All petitions, all wishes for the introduction of ever so slight reforms which were almost daily laid at his feet, he only answered by fresh meannesses of an Asiatic Government barbarism. Genuine dragonades followed every warning or threat, attempted but unsuccessful attacks on his person increased his baseness to the monstrous. Who is scoundrel enough really to bewail the death of such a beast? But it is said, 'Will the successor of the smashed one do any better than he did? We know it not. But this we do know, that the same can hardly be permitted to reign long if he only steps in his father's footsteps. Yes, we could actually wish that it should so happen, for we hate the hypocritical, mock-liberal monarchs no less than the despots sans phrase,' because the former perhaps have still greater power of retarding the development of civilisation than the latter. In addition, the persistence of the new Czar in the old principle of government must forthwith double and treble its enemies, because in Russia there are a number of people of that sort which has believed in the Crown-Prince legend usual in all countries, and at all times, according to which the successor spoken of only awaits the moment when he may be able to pour over the people a whole horn of plenty, full of blessings. All these enthusiasts are forthwith converted when they see that the new ukases smell as much of Russian leather as the old. Meanwhile be this as it may, the throw was good, and we hope that it was not the last May the bold deed, which—we repeat it—has our full sympathy, inspire revolutionists far and wide with fresh courage. Let all think of Herwegh's words—</p>
<p>" 'And where tyrants still exist " 'Then let us boldly seize them, " 'We have loved long enough, " 'And we wish at last to hate.' "</p>
<p>The following is also a correct translation:—</p>
<p>"The Social Revolutionary adherents of Most (it should be "advanced Socialists") have appointed for their next task to prepare, by the institution of widely-ramified and secret groups and clubs, limited to determined persons, acts of violence, according to the model of the Nihilists, against the representatives of State and social order, through the execution of which the universal revolution is to be introduced." I have looked at this piece of paper produced from the pocket-book—this is a correct translation, "Trieste is a safe address for the storage of dynamite"—at the top and at the end of the paper the prisoner's name appears, with the address, "Printed and published at 101, Great Titch
<lb/>field Street, Oxford Street, W."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The words commencing "The Social Revolutionary followers
<hi rend="italic">of</hi> Most," &c. appear to be an extract from a memorandum of the Government, as it is in inverted commas.</p>
<hi rend="italic">This being the case for the prosecution</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SULLIVAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that as to the first two counts of the indictment, which were common law counts, they could not be supported, as the common law was intended to apply only to offences against the Queen's peace, and committed within this realm. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD CHIEF JUSTICE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">overruling this objection</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SULLIVAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">further submitted that the Statute</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">Vic. c.</hi> 100,
<hi rend="italic">See.</hi> 4,
<hi rend="italic">under which the other counts were framed, did not apply to such a case as the present; that it only applied to a personal encouraging and persuading by one individual to another, and not to what he characterised as general newspaper invective. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ATTORNEY-GENERAL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that the words of the section must be read in connection with the ordinary statutory rule that the singular included the plural, and that the general publication of such an article as the present</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">was a clear inciting and endeavouring to persuade to the commission of the crime of murder. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD CHIEF JUSTICE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">entertaining some doubt as to the latter point raised, would, if necessary, reserve it for the consideration of the Court for Crown Cases Reserved.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury in consideration of this being the first paper of his which had such matter in it, and being a foreigner, and probably smarting under some wrong, real or imaginary.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Field.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-542-18810523 t18810523-542-punishment-14"/>Eight Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810523-544-offence-1 t18810523-name-81"/>Lucretia Royston</persName>, aged 9 years and 2 months.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HORACE AVORY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">forth Prosecution,
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<interp inst="t18810523-544-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>offered no evidence on this indictment,</rs> but upon a second charge,
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<interp inst="t18810523-544-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="indecentAssault"/>for indecently assaulting the same child,</rs> the Jury found the prisoner</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-544-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-544-18810523 t18810523-544-punishment-15"/>Nine Months' Hard Labour.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810523-545-offence-1 t18810523-name-83"/>John Hennessey</persName> a suit of clothes, and other goods from other persons.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-84" type="given" value="MONTTAGU"/>MR. MONTTAGU WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-85" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HENNESSEY</persName> </hi>. I live at 65, Shepherdess Walk—in January, 1880, I was foreman to Mr. George Gordon, who carries on business at No. 70—at the end of January the prisoner called there and gave me an order for a suit of clothes at 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he said he would call on the following Thurs
<lb/>day for them—he called the following Wednesday—part of them were ready—he then ordered an overcoat for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the next day he called again for the suit, and wanted to take them away—he said he would pay for them when he called for the overcoat—I refused—he said, "As you won't trust me I will trust you," so he paid me for the overcoat as well as for the suit with this cheque (
<hi rend="italic">produced, dated 12th February</hi>, 1880,
<hi rend="italic">for</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">on the London and County Bank, Watford Branch, signed Charles Ford, and marked "Account closed</hi>)"—I was refused payment at the bank—I had my doubts, but I let him have the suit of clothes because Mr. Gordon sanctioned it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> You did not ask me to keep the cheque till you fetched the overcoat.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-86" type="given" value="CHARLES WILLIAM"/>CHARLES WILLIAM JEFFRIES</persName> </hi>. I am a cheesemonger, of 2, Cunningham Terrace, Shepherd's Bush—I knew the prisoner prior to 29th Novem
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<lb/>ber he bought some cheese and bacon for 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he gave me this cheque for 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">A similar cheque, dated</hi> 29
<hi rend="italic">th November</hi>)—he told me to send the goods to 5, Loftus Road; I had sent goods there before—I gave him change—a lad came afterwards, and in consequence of what he said I gave him the goods—payment of the cheque was refused—I inquired and found he had left his address six weeks before—I believed the cheque to be genuine.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I changed two cheques before for you—you left them till they were cashed—they were correct.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PARKER</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk at the Watford branch of the London and County Bank—the prisoner opened an account there in the name of Charles Ford on the 9th October, 1879, with one sum of 175
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that was the only sum paid in—the last cheque for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid out November 28th of the same year, leaving a balance of 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I produce a statement of account—his account was closed by our letter of September 30th; it was returned to us from the dead letter office marked "no address."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> A pass book was made out for you, but you never called for it—several cheques were drawn and returned unpaid.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-88" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BUDGE</persName> </hi>. I live at 1, Queen's Gate Place Mews; I am a coachman—the beginning of December, 1879, I saw an advertisement of a beerhouse for sale for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., application to be made to Mr. James Fowler, 2, Edgcombe Cottages—I wrote and received a reply—afterwards the prisoner and another man came down to my house in a cab—he asked for Mr. Budge—I said, "I am the man"—he said, "I received a letter from you respecting a beerhouse I have to let; it is one of the most genuine little affairs you could possibly enter into"—he said his name was James Fowler—he asked to speak to me privately—he said, "This man has paid me money for my house"—he called the man Belgium—he said that the man had offered him 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but he was a man that had been knocking about the States, and had no reference—as he wanted to improve his property, which, was just left to him by his uncle, he wished to get a spirit licence for the house—he said, "I suppose you have references?"—I said, "Yes; I have 25 years I can show you from a nobleman, a gentleman I have lived with"—he said over again, "Well, this is one of the most genuine little affairs you could possibly meet with"—he said, "I want to do away with this man; if you have no objection to give me 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. deposit before him in the other room, so that I can have done with him, and he will be satisfied with your taking the house"—I said, "I cannot possibly give you 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. now; I have only 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the house, and have wages to pay; I can put down 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. before the man, and you might hold 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. as a deposit to give me first chance of the house"—I gave him 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. before the man, and he subsequently returned me 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the man said, "I am sorry you have taken it; it would just have suited me; but I do not mind so much if Mr. Fowler will let me have the other house"—the prisoner made some reply that he would see—I subsequently met the prisoner at Reigate Station, for him to take me over the house—I saw Belgium carrying the prisoner's black bag coming towards the station to meet me—I went with the prisoner to the Railway Tavern—he said, "Those people are drunken people; I should not like you to be insulted; you will just look over the house, and take notice whether the house is a house that would suit you, or one that you should like"—he took me over the house—we then went to the back yard; I saw the landlord, and the prisoner spoke</p>
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<p>to the landlady—I heard her say to him he was not to let anybody else see over it—in the back yard he went to the pig-sty—there was blood on the stones, and he said, "There, that will tell you what sort of a fellow he is; he has killed the pigs this morning, but it will make no difference to you; I shall allow you 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for them"—there was a horse and fly or carriage to be let with the house, but that was out; I did not see it—we went to the Terminus Hotel at Reigate—he said that was his property, and asked me if I would like that—he said, "You can have this if you like"—I said, "I think this is too much for me; I think the small house would suit me better"—he went as far as the station with me, and I left him—he called at my house a day or two afterwards and arranged that I shonld give him 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the beerhouse—he said I should have to give notice to the superintendent of police at Reigate, so as to get the notice on the church doors to get the spirit licence for the coming March—he said, "I should like to do things in a business sort of way; if you give me another 48
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. it will make 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I will draw you an agreement"—he then drew me the agreement produced, and said if I did not like the house in six months' time he would pay me my money again—I paid him the 48
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the receipt is with the agreement—three weeks afterwards he came to my house and said there was some little hitch, his uncle had sold the lease; he was afraid he could not get the man out on 25th March as he had agreed, but there was another house which would suit me much better than a beerhouse, as there was a little land to it, and it was a spirit house also—I said, "Very well, but we agreed that if either defaulted he should forfeit 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but I do not insist upon that"—he afterwards came and said he had bought a house at Horley called the Black Horse—he said, "This is a little gem for you; this house will suit you to a tittle; it will cost 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; when can you arrange to come and look at the place?"—a day or two after, I went to look over the house, and he met with a fly at Reigate—I went to Edgcombe Cottages and dined with him—he said his house and the adjoining villas and four public-houses were his as well as private houses—afterwards he drove me to Horley to see the Black Horse—going along he said, "These are queer people we are going to see, Mr. Budge; I should advise you not to have much to say to the man, because I shall have to buy him out; do not let him see you are sweet on the house, as I have bought the property; therefore he must come out, because I won't accept him as a tenant; I have bought it for you"—we went over the house and then came back to Edgcombe Cottages to tea, and he came to London with me and spent the evening—he called a day or two afterwards with a printed inventory—he said, "Will you now pay me another 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and you will have nothing to do but take possession on the 25th March; if there is any money you require I will let you have it at two and a half per cent."—I last saw him on 14th February—I next saw him in charge—I got neither public-house—I believed his statement, and on those representations which he made I parted with my money.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I brought my daughter with me—I showed her over the house—she did not tell me who the house belonged to—you told me it belonged to a party at Croydon—you were going to take me there some time—no agency was mentioned—you sold it to me as your property—one receipt was destroyed; when you gave me another for the 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. you did not ask for the agreement back—my daughter was with Mrs. Davis,</p>
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<p>the landlady, a little time—I had no suspicion—you represented Mrs. Davis to be your housekeeper—the manager went with us over the house—I did not ask him any questions—I liked the house—you lent me 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of the money I paid you—I gave up my bed to you for eight nights, and sat up in a chair—I gave you a dose of essence of turpentine in mistake, and you sent for the doctor, but he laughed, and said it would not hurt you, it was used to catch a tapeworm sometimes—you sent me a fraudulent cheque for 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—you borrowed my watch and returned it with a cheque—I am wearing the watch now; the cheque was dishonoured.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-89" type="given" value="AUGUSTUS"/>AUGUSTUS BROWN</persName> </hi>. I live at 137, Crescent Row, Plumstead—I know Edgcombe Cottages, Reigate—they were formerly the property of Mr. Cottenham, who died—I am one of his executors, and I hold those cottages in trust for an infant—the prisoner is not the owner, and never had any interest in them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I never saw you before, except at Worship Street—I never knew you reside there—I was down there about three years ago.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-90" type="given" value="WILLIAM HARLAND"/>WILLIAM HARLAND HEBB</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor, managing the business of Mr. Rowland, Croydon—I know the Railway Inn at Earlswood—it belonged to Mr. Nalder, of Croydon, since October, 1860—I do not know the prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-91" type="surname" value="ROEBOTTOM"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-91" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD ROEBOTTOM</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer, of 68, Buckingham Palace Road—the Black Horse at Horley is the property of Mr. Charles Austin Master—it has belonged to him since 1876—I have been his agent since that time—I do not know the prisoner—he is not the freeholder of the house—he never purchased it, nor had any interest in it.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-92" type="given" value="WILLIAM EDWARD"/>WILLIAM EDWARD RYDER</persName> </hi>. I am chief constable of Hertford—I know the prisoner in the name of Charles Arthur Head—he was in my custody on 11th March charged with fraud—he was tried at Hertford April Sessions, and convicted—that was in reference to some cheques of Messrs. Sparrow's bank at Bishop's Stortford—I found this cheque upon him belonging to that bank.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I apprehended you for obtaining 55
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from a lady in the City of London by professing to sell her a beerhouse.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-93" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD WAVELL</persName> </hi>. I am a druggist, of 10, Caxton Terrace, Shep
<lb/>herd's Bush—I know the prisoner as a customer by the name of Charles Ford—he bought some goods of me in August, 1879—he gave me a cheque, and I paid him the difference in money—the cheque was re
<lb/>turned; he said he had had some trouble with the manager of the bank, and gave me the money, and I returned the cheque to him—in December, 1879, he came again and ordered goods for about 23
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me this cheque on the Hampshire and North Wilts Bank—he took some of the goods with him, and asked me to send the remainder to Wingate House—the goods were sent—he had never been heard of—I paid him the difference in money—I next saw him in custody—I believed it to be a genuine cheque.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-94" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-94" type="surname" value="CLEGG"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-94" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CLEGG</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Capital and Counties Bank—it was formerly styled the Hampshire and North Wilts Banking Company, of Portsmouth—no Charles Bell had an account there, nor Charles Ford—the cheque presented on 6th December was returned by the Bank of England marked "No account."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You never had an account at the Portsmouth branch—you had one at the Landport branch four or five years ago for about twelve months in the name of Charles Bell.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-95" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PEELE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). I have seen some letters in the prisoner's writing, and compared them with these cheques—to the best of my belief they are the same writing—he was taken in custody by Sage on 4th April when he was leaving Manchester Prison.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-96" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SAGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). I apprehended the prisoner at Manchester on a warrant when he was coming out of prison—I read the warrant to him; he said "Very well"—I searched him—he went by the name of John Head—I found on him this cheque-book of Messrs. Sparrow and Tuffnel's Bank, Bishop's Stortford.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I believed the cheques would be paid—I never said the property belonged to me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-545-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>*.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-545-18810523 t18810523-545-punishment-16"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH STEPHEN COLLIER COPSEY</hi> (41)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18810523-546-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="bankrupcy"/>, Unlawfully incurring a debt and liability to
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810523-546-offence-1 t18810523-name-98"/>William Whiteley</persName>, to the amount of 417
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> for obtaining goods by false pretences and conspiracy to defraud.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. S. GIFFARD</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. J. P. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBERT</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-99" type="surname" value="STAGEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-99" type="given" value="HENRY ALFRED"/>HENRY ALFRED STAGEY</persName> </hi>. I am Superintendent of Records at the London Bankruptcy Court, and produce the file of proceedings in the liquidation of the prisoner, otherwise known as Joseph Collier—his addresses given in his statement of affairs on the file are 16, Brammerton Street Chelsea, late of 19, Markham Square, Chelsea, and late of 44, Finborough Road, South Kensington—this was filed on 10th June, 1880—there are liabilities shown here of 2,036
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and total assets 253
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the fully-secured creditors are W. Crowe, 70, Coleman Street, 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; "this creditor holds a bill of sale dated 7th July, 1877, for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and interest, and there is now due thereon with interest 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—the sheets are signed by the prisoner—I also find transcripts of short-hand notes on the file of the prisoner's examination on 3rd July, 9th September, 27th September, and 28th September, 1880.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Mr. Micklethwaite, of Long Acre, appears to be the prisoner's solicitor—if you file a proof there is no occasion for the solicitor to put his name on it—I see here "Mr. Grain, and Counsel, instructed by Messrs. C. O. Humphreys and Son, appeared for Messrs. Whiteley, and Mr. Levy, of Messrs. Mickelthwaite and Co., appeared for Mr. Crowe"—Micklethwaite filed the petition for the prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-100" type="given" value="CHARLES LEGGATT"/>CHARLES LEGGATT BARBER</persName> </hi>. I am one of the official short-hand writers to the Bankruptcy Court—on the 9th September, 27th September, and 28th September, 1880, I took down in short-hand the examination of the prisoner—I have my original notes here, and the transcripts on the file were made by me, and are true and correct. (
<hi rend="italic">Read.</hi>)</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-101" type="surname" value="CHAPPLE"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-101" type="given" value="ARTHUR FRANK"/>ARTHUR FRANK CHAPPLE</persName> </hi>. I am a short-hand writer, of 75, Chancery Lane—on the 3rd July I attended at the office of Messrs. Micklethwaite and Co., 3, Long Acre, at the first meeting of creditors, and took short
<lb/>hand notes of the debtor's examination—I have my notes here, and have made a transcript—it is true and correct. (
<hi rend="italic">Read.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was present during the whole examination—Mr.</p>
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<p>Grain examined the debtor—there was no solicitor or Counsel representing the debtor—I saw Mr. Levy there—he is not a solicitor—there was no Counsel—it began, I think, about 11 o'clock, and lasted until about 1 o'clock.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-102" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi>. I have known the prisoner 15 or 16 years—I am connected with the Norwich Life Insurance—I am put down as a creditor to the prisoner for 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I had no knowledge of that being done, and it is false—there was, I believe, seven or eight years ago, a small debt of between 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. due from me to him.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-103" type="surname" value="LUDWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-103" type="given" value="THOMAS WEST"/>THOMAS WEST LUDWELL</persName> </hi>. I am managing clerk to Messrs. Lindus and Bicknell, of Cheapside, solicitors to Swan and Edgar, Regent Street, on whose behalf I conducted an action against Copsey—the original writ was dated 2nd April, for 56
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for wearing apparel—it was my duty to serve the writ personally, but I did not succeed—I applied for substituted service, and then sent it by registered post—no appearance was put in—on 12th April Copsey called at our office—he brought the copy writ, and complained of his inability to pay the amount; he paid 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and said that till that morning he had heard nothing of the matter, as he had been away, and if he was pressed he should have to file his petition, and that a bill of sale existed over his furniture—he arranged to pay 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 26th April, and I agreed to give him time—I drew up this agreement, and he signed it. (
<hi rend="italic">Agreeing to pay off the debt by instal
<lb/>ments at fixed dates</hi>)—on 20th April he paid of 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. instead of 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., saying that he could not pay more—he brought no more, and we wrote to him for the balance, and On 7th June put in the Sheriff, who was turned out under the bill of sale, and the balance is unpaid still.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He came to me on the 12th, and told me he knew nothing about it until his wife handed him the writ that morning.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-104" type="surname" value="CROWE"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-104" type="given" value="WILLIAM RUSSELL"/>WILLIAM RUSSELL CROWE</persName> </hi>. I am an accountant, of 70, Coleman Street—I first knew Copsey, I think, in 1868—I made him advances in 1876 and 1877 on a bill of sale when he lived in Finborough Road—it was rather a large house, but there was not very much furniture—that bill remained unsatisfied up to the filing of the petition—I have only received 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Sheriff, I think, was turned out once under the bill of sale—some little time before 10th June I went to the house in Brammerton Street; I did not see Copsey there—some new furniture was coming in, and either he or Madam Copsey proposed that I should advance as much as I was willing, and consolidate the other with a new bill of sale; 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was the suggested amount, including what I had already advanced Mr. Weir, and I went over the furniture, and we put it down so that we might make an advance to bring the debt up to 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I heard that it came from Whiteley's—nothing came of the proposal; I did not carry it into effect, and on 10th June he filed his petition, of which I received notice in the ordinary way—I attended the meeting of 3rd July at Mr. Micklethwaite's office with my father's proxy; I was the only Mr. Crow there—I was subsequently appointed trustee by the Bankruptey Court—a committee of inspection was appointed at the meeting—Daniel Levy was in the room, and Mr. Edward Laurence Levy; they were holding proxies on behalf of creditors—on the advice of Mr. Willes we adopted the motion that was made to commit Mr. Whiteley for contempt of Court—ultimately the goods were returned, and Mr. Weir, who was my clerk, gave this receipt for them in my name—the Copseys continued to reside</p>
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<p>at 16, Brammerton Street—I had a valuation of the goods in August; it amounted to 321
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. gross—no suggestion had been made that I know of prior to that that the goods should be purchased on behalf of the debtor—I then wrote to Copsey on the subject of the valuation, and I no doubt saw him afterwards—it was said that no doubt some person would purchase the goods for his daughter, but the price mentioned by me was too high, and he stated that some of her goods were included in the valuation—I received an offer in writing from Mills and Carpenter in Brompton Road, and then got another valuation made by Dyson and Co., money lenders, of 23, Cornhill, who, said that what we could get over 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would materially benefit the estate—I saw Madam Copsey after that, and if he came into the office I may have spoken to him—I did not tell her what Dyson's valued the furniture at; their valuation was 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I sold it for 205
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to a man who gives the name of Squeezy, of 6, Great Win
<lb/>chester Buildings, City; that did not include Miss Copsey's goods or the 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of plate—the plate was in Copsey's possession from the day I sold the furniture to the date of the hearing at the police-court, when I received it on behalf of the creditors—I gave Mr. Squeezy a receipt for the 205
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and have never seen him since—I received bank-notes—I have not paid any dividends—about 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. are left—this is how the money was expended (
<hi rend="italic">Handing in a list</hi>)—I paid myself 48
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have also entered, "Trustee, remuneration, 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.;" that is myself—I have received nothing from the sale of the furniture—Mr. Whiteley's plate was returned—the furniture is still at 16, Brammerton Street, and they are living there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My bill of sale is registered, and it had to be paid before anything could be done—the first valuation was by Messrs. Turner; they are respectable people; the next was by Miller and Car
<lb/>penter, and there was another by Abrahams, and another by Dyson—I settled the first under this resolution. (
<hi rend="italic">Dated September</hi> 4, 1880)—I once or twice asked Copsey to pay off the old bill of sale—the largest valuation was assuming that the goods could be sold on the premises, but they could not be—Copsey's daughter is about 16; she is on the stage—I understood that the furniture was to be bought for her—Copsey was actually living there as far as I know—he has obtained a situation at a tobacconist's since the filing of the petition—his wife and daughter lived there—I know my own goods, and I saw them again afterwards, and some new things—I have gone through Whiteley's account; the total is 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with deductions, leaving a balance of 417
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I took out items on a sheet of paper for ladies' clothing, amounting to about 77
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I do not lend on wearing apparel, and I never saw it at all.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The defendant's solicitor, Mr. Plunkett, called on me—he represents Mr. Dunn so far as I know—I charged 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for services rendered, and I did not contemplate charging any more—although it is not mentioned in the minutes the committee suggested that I should go up there and see the goods, and in consequence of that I instructed Dyson's to give me a fair valuation, and I attended at Brammerton Street—Copsey was not there—all the meetings were held at my office—he was not in the room, he may have been in the house—I was instructed by the committee to object to a private examination—the resolution is, "Resolved, that the committee do object by Counsel to the private examination fixed to take place on the 9th inst."—that was the exami
<lb/>nation of the liquidating debtor—the reason was the rejection of Mr.</p>
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<p>Whiteley's proof; that is not on the minutes—I attended before the Registrar and withdrew the objection—the resolution of June 1 is, "Re
<lb/>solved, that the trustee do attend and object to the private examination taking place till Mr. Whiteley has complied with the order of the Court, and proved his debt"—I told Mr. Murray that that was my reason for objecting, and he said, "I don't think, if I were you, I should object," and then he inserted, "The trustee not objecting," but afterwards they thought I was rather exceeding my prerogative—the resolution was passed after my explanation of what passed between me and the Regis
<lb/>trar—I asked the committee what, harm could be done by the examination of the debtor, but they persisted in their objection because Mr. Whiteley had some of the goods in his possession, and had not complied with the order of the Court—I had received instructions from Mr. Humphreys not to part with the goods till a date indicated.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Mr. Whiteley said he would return the whole, but I believe these goods were minus—whether Mr. Whiteley actually had them on sale or return, or whether Copsey's people made away with them I can't say; there is a deficiency—I was not in the house when they came—Messrs. Micklethwaite and Co. had not given me the invoice that Mr. Whiteley had sent—I did not know what the debt was for—the debtor told me the amount he owed Mr. Whiteley was not more than 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—a great many of the debts put down in the claim were proved—the proof has not been dealt with, either in rejection or admission, and it is not usual, either in my office or that of others, to deal with such proof until you contemplate paying a dividend—it is an unusual expense, and as there is no prospect of a dividend out of this 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I did not go to the expense of ascertaining—whatever small amount is left in my hands it will be my duty to divide, and I shall certainly go into it then—this letter of 13th August, 1880, was submitted to the committee of in
<lb/>spection, and they told me still to adhere—the goods were not sold till after the receipt of that letter; thev were sold at the time the debtor was under examination—I do not know that he did not attend until 9th September—I have an entry in my time-book that owing to the non-attendance of the debtor another meeting was fixed for 9th November—the goods were sold on 18th September.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-105" type="given" value="MATTHEW SINGLETON"/>MATTHEW SINGLETON WEIR</persName> </hi>. I was clerk to Mr. Crowe—I copied the resolutions from the originals—Miller always prepared the resolutions as far as I know—they were drawn up sometimes outside the office in the street, and sometimes in a public-house—Copsey was always there—he was sometimes present at the consultations of the committee—I attended on Mr. Crowe—I cannot say the date, but at that time all the goods were not delivered—the drawing-room suite was delivered—his family was at the house at that time, and nothing was said about the bill of sale not being drawn until the goods were delivered—I heard some con
<lb/>versation between Crowe and Copsey to the effect that Mr. Copsey was to come to the office to see Mr. Crowe on the matter—I was not present at the interview—Mrs. Copsey came to Mr. Crowe's office more fre
<lb/>quently than Mr. Copsey—she would come twice a week sometimes.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am not in Mr. Crowe's employment now—I swear some of the resolutions were passed in the public-house at the corner—I was there having a glass of beer, and saw them there—Mr. Crowe has often told me to bring them into the office—the meeting was called inside the office and not outside—the committee of inspection would meet, with</p>
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<p>their solicitor, Daniel Levy, and draw a resolution on paper and bring it inside, and I copied it from Mr. Miller's writing into that book—I do not suggest that Mr. Crowe was ever at the public-house—I looked over the furniture and considered that 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. could be got for it—I received the furniture back from Whiteley's—there were two bedroom suites—the drawing-room suite was the principal part; there were large looking-glasses; the furniture was handsome—I went over it with Mr. Crowe—I was not there when it was taken away by Whiteley's men—I was there when it was returned, and I went carefully through the furniture with Mrs. Copsey, and made a list of the damaged articles—I suppose Mr. Crowe has the list—I cannot say what the amount of damage was.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> A sideboard and sofa were damaged—5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would probably cover the damage.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-106" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-106" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOSEPH"/>WILLIAM JOSEPH JONES</persName> </hi>. I am counting-house superintendent to Mr. Whiteley, and have the general supervision of orders given as to credit and so on—the assistants come to me—the goods in question were supplied by Mr. Whiteley's firm to Mrs. Copsey—the principal part of the goods came from the department where Mr. Palmer was engaged—he is not in our service now—we first had a communication about these goods in March, and I saw Mrs. Copsey a few days after, when she came and said she wanted some furniture, and gave a reference to Messrs. Micklethwaite and Co., her solicitors, in Long Acre—she came again, and Mr. Palmer told her the reference was not satisfactory—the arrange
<lb/>ment was for a cash transaction, and she paid 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on account—a cash transaction with, us means that the money has to be paid when the goods are delivered, or as soon after as possible—very shortly after she was to pay another 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid on account of goods already delivered and in course of manufacture—she paid the other 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 15th May—from that time we received no further payment—about 10th June we received a notice of a petition having been filed.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There was no one with Mrs. Copsey when I saw her the first time, I am certain—I did not make any inquiry about Messrs. Micklethwaite and Co.—I did not ask her whether she was married—we should ask that question if it were a credit transaction, but it was understood this was to be cash—she was to make payment on account from time to-time—I call it a cash transaction—we should take 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. down to supply goods to the amount of 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. if we got another 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and a promise of further substantial payment—we took her promise—Palmer told me she was married—she gave the address 16, Brammerton Street—I saw her daughter once when Mrs. Copsey paid the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I have heard of Miss Copsey—I knew she was an actress—I found it out about a month after—Copsey is not a common name—invoices would be sent with the majority of things—they were made out to Mrs. Copsey—the 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. down impressed us, and the promise of substantial payment.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-107" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHAELES SMITHERS</persName> </hi>. I am hall porter at 6, Great Winchester Street, where I have been for 10 years—I never heard the name of Squeezy there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-108" type="surname" value="ROBSON"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-108" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ROBSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). I know ✗ Bulmer, of York Buildings, Strand—he was convicted at this Court of receiving stolen goods—I also know Henry John Oswald Gudgeon, who was convicted at this Court—I did not know him before his conviction.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-109" type="surname" value="LUDWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-109" type="given" value="THOMAS WEST"/>THOMAS WEST LUDWELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I knew Gudgeon, of 21, Great Winchester Street, very well, and was present at his conviction—it was a Long Firm case, tried before his lordship.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-110" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-110" type="surname" value="COPSEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-110" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY COPSEY</persName> </hi>. I shall be 17 next September, and am an actress, and have been so for about three years—I live with my mother, whose name was Donne before she was married—I have a grandmother in Paris, a lady of independent means; she has supplied my mother with money some
<lb/>times—my father does not live at home; we hardly ever see him—he follows different occupations—my mother principally pays the rent of the house; my father does not contribute to the expenses—the houses which we lived in first were unfurnished—I went with my mother to "Whiteley's; we were going to Meeking's—we furnished the rooms, to let them to a foreign gentleman, and they were to bring us in 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week, which was to include expensive dinners and almost the whole of the house and the hire of two servants—I went with my mother on every occasion—we saw Mr. Palmer—nothing whatever was said about my father—my name was not mentioned then—when the furniture had been put into the house we went to Paris to make arrangements for the gentleman to lodge with us, and when we returned we found all this had happened—we have dealt with Swan and Edgar over two years, and have had credit there—my mother bought a seal-skin jacket there for 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., for which she obtained a receipt, and she had another one which she had credit for; and the day before we left for Paris my mother dressed me in that, and we were surprised when the writ was served—I do not remember when it was served—they seemed quite willing to wait, and we had spent about 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with them the day before we went to Paris, for dresses and gloves and other things—when we were in Paris my mother wrote a letter to Mr. Whiteley.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My last engagement was last summer, at the Royalty Theatre—this letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is in my mother's writing—I did not know of her wishing to take the house it refers to—I never heard of it till this minute—I never heard that my mother was going to take 3, Holly Terrace, Thistle Grove, on a lease, at 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year—April 12 months would be about the time the furniture was going into Brammerton Street—I did not know that my mother passed by the name of Donne—this letter is in my writing; it is signed E. Donne—this other letter is in my writing; it gives the name of Mr. Wilson as a reference—I do not know him at all—I never saw him—I suppose my mother knows him—it was to get a house—I do not remember when—I know Mr. Mickle
<lb/>thwaite—we gave him as a reference—I do not think it was by his authority or Mr. Levy's—we were going to live in Brammerton Street and have the furniture there, and have 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week out of it—this letter is before my mother bought any furniture of Mr. Whiteley—we were also in treaty for another house with Mr. Siminond, in Victoria Grove—we wanted that house because this case being so unpleasant for me I wanted my mother to move, as I had lately had an engagement offered, and I did not like to give the present address—we were not in treaty at the very time the furniture came in from Whiteley's—that is just lately—we have been in treaty for two, I think, in the last 12 months; one in Victoria Grove and the other, I think, in Holly Terrace—I did not know about Holly Terrace—the signature in that letter is my mother's, and the body of it, I suppose, is the house agent's—my father comes home every night, but goes away very early in the morning, and we seldom see him—I do not mean to suggest that he was not living in the house with us at the time of his arrest—I have seen Mr. Child once; he may have lent my</p>
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<p>father money, but not to pay the rent—my father never paid the rent—I have seen Mr. Miller once at our house—I know a person named Squeezy—I decline to give his name—I can pass you a piece of paper for your satisfaction—he lives at 6, Winchester Street—I cannot tell you his occupation—I have seen him, and I saw him shortly before the furniture came back to our house—my father did not see him—my mother did—he and Mr. Crowe saw each other—I last saw him when the furniture came back, nearly five months ago—Mr. Squeezy brought it and gave it to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> My mother and I paid the rent—it was a short time ago that we thought of taking Mr. Simmond's house; not a month, I think—the tenancy of our house in Brammerton Street expires this June, I think.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. GIFFARD</hi>. We lived at St. James's Villa when Mr. Whiteley took our things—we had to take a furnished house—this letter of April 26th was written this year. (
<hi rend="italic">Signed E. Bonnel</hi>)—Donne is my mother's French name—we have had a great deal of trouble over this business—my mother was going to take a house in the name of Donne, and she consulted her solicitor, and he said no; and we went to Mr. Simmond, and it was altered—my mother told him about the case altogether.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-113" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK DYER</persName> </hi>. I am an oilman, of 103, West Street, Mile End—about 11 p.m. on 9th May I went into my front parlour and saw the prisoner about to get out at the window with some clothes on his arm—I had been in the room about half an hour before, when the clothes were hanging on a peg behind the door, and the window was shut—I had a lamp in one hand and in the other some milk and a jug of water—I placed the milk on the table, opened the door, and saw the prisoner about six doors off, running at his hardest—nobody else was in the street—I followed him about a mile until a constable stopped him—I have no doubt of the prisoner—if I had not had the lamp in my hand I could have caught him at the window—he left the clothes on the window-sill.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> The parlour door is about 3 yards from the window—you had one leg on the sofa and half of your body inside—I did not see your face, but I saw your clothes—you were the only person I saw—the parlour was in darkness before I went in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-114" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE"/>CHARLOTTE LEWIS</persName> </hi>. I live opposite Mr. Dyer—soon after 11 o'clock, on passing his house, I saw the prisoner and another man standing at the door—I came back in two minutes, and they were standing by Mr. Dyer's window, which was wide open—the shutters are outside—the other man was against the kerb—I was walking slowly, and the men near the kerb said to the prisoner "Let her pass," which drew my attention to them—I went indoors and heard Mrs. Dyer scream, and said "Those two men I believe have got into Mrs. Dyer's window"—on going to the shop I saw that the window was closed—I am sure the prisoner is the man—there were not many people about.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You stood near to the window, and the other man near to the kerb, and when you caught sight of me you turned your features so that I could not see you—I could tell you by your stature</p>
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<p>and your clothes—I saw your side lace—when the constable brought you up to the door I said it was you—I did not see you get out at the window, or see anything in your possession—I have not passed three words with Mrs. Dyer the whole time she has lived there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-115" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY DYER</persName> </hi>. I am the prosecutor's wife, I followed him in to go to bed—I had the baby in my arms—I saw the window open and the prisoner with one leg on the sofa and the clothes on the window-ledge—I did not catch sight of his features, but I did of his body—my husband opened the door and ran after him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 95). I was on duty in St. Peter's Street at about 11.20, and heard a cry of "Stop thief!" and saw four persons coming along the street—the prisoner was about 15 yards ahead of them, coming from the direction of West Street, and I stopped the prisoner, who was running his hardest—he said "It is not me, I am after him;"I said "Which way did they go?" he said "Along Devon
<lb/>shire Street,"I asked him what brought him into St. Peter's Street after them, and Dyer came up and said "That is the man that has been in my house"—the prisoner denied it—I took him in custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I took you back between 300 and 400 yards—you did not use abusive language—another policeman ran after you.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I am innocent. I ran with the rest hearing them cry 'Stop thief!' "</p>
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<hi rend="italic">yards from the prosecutor's house he saw some men running, and he and a boy ran to stop them, when he was stopped by the constable, and that none of the witnesses swore to his feature.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">REED</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ADDISON</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LEVEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-118" type="given" value="HENRY ALFRED"/>HENRY ALFRED STAGEY</persName> </hi>. I am Superintendent of Records in the London Bankruptcy Court—I produce the file of proceedings in this liquidation—the petition was filed on the 2nd July, and a resolution for liquidation there under was passed on 27th July, which was registered on 2nd August, 1880—Mr. Brown was appointed receiver on 3rd July on the nomination of creditors—the name of William Snow, senior, is inserted in the list for 859
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—here is the certificate of the appointment on 20th August of Mr. Joseph Andrews as trustee—the statement of affairs was filed on 30th July—here is a proof of debt by William Snow, sen., for 168
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; it is unsecured—the amount of indebtedness is 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., it appears 416
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is unsecured, and "Taxes 28
<hi rend="italic">/.</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-119" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROWN</persName> </hi>. I was appointed receiver under this liquidation, and prepared the petition—I got this notice from the prisoner as to his owing 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I prepared the nomination papers—I put Prime, the salesman, in charge of the prisoner's business premises; I was to pay him the same as he had been previously paid by his master; it was about 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. per week wages, and the remainder as commission on sales—I frequently went on the premises, and always found Prime attending to the business—there was a man named Bloomfield after the first week—I employed Snow the same day that I took possession of the business premises, 3rd July—I</p>
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<p>said, "You will be allowed 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week, and to carry on the business as usual"—the accounts were rendered to me every night, and I continued to receive up to 3rd August, when a trustee having been appointed I gave up possession—Bloomfield was withdrawn at the time I left—I ceased to pay Snow about a week before, because he left the premises—I never saw him on the premises again—that is all I know about the case.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was told that Snow had been in business since about 1877—his father had been a large furniture dealer in Norfolk Terrace—I do not know anything about Snow endeavouring to enlarge his business and not having sufficient capital—I cannot say that it was that which brought him down—I had known him by sight for some years—I have been told that in 1878 he was confined in the Paddington Infirmary, having something wrong with his head—I decidedly should not put him amongst the stupid class, but amongst the cunning—he is married, and I believe his wife had something to do with the business—I put her amongst the olever class and cunning, a little of both—very clever and a little cunning, if you like—about this time I was an accountant and understood bank
<lb/>ruptcy matters—I mixed with all classes, except the upper class—I have been engaged in different capacities—I have never been a dyer—I was for many years in the civil service; not conducting a civil service store—Snow first consulted me without his wife—I first suggested that he should try and raise money on a bill of sale, but when I looked into matters I advised that he had better file a petition—he was perfectly able to understand what I advised him—I told him that to raise money on a bill of sale would be an extremely dangerous proceeding—there was a meeting on 27th July—a composition of 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the pound was offered, which the creditors declined, afterwards 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was offered, and so strong were their feelings that they declined to accept it, and I saw no probability of carrying out the composition, and it was not carried—I did not hear that some of the creditors expected to get 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the pound from his father—I did not present the petition; I had nothing to do with it—the solicitor he employed is my solicitor—I have not had 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from them—my solicitor taxed his costs, I believe, in the usual way—I got the figure of 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the debtor—the list of creditors was made out, and I tested them as far as I could—I only went to two creditors to get my nomination—I wrote the figures 859
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at the debtor's dictation—I did not go to Snow, sen.; those figures were copied from the original list of creditors—it is usual for the receiver in some cases to prepare the form, which I did—I saw the paper signed by Thomas Kemp Snow—I filled in the 375
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. which I got from the debtor—this nomination paper was made out by Mr. Tilsley, the solicitor—I declined to have anything more to do with his statement of affairs—after the 3rd July the business went on precisely as before as far as I know, and the debtor bought and sold as before—I paid him 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. every week, but not always that amount at the time—sometimes he would have 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., but it came to the same in the end—he left the premises before I retired—I retained all the receipts for every payment I made to him—these are all the receipts connected with the receivership—I paid the rent out of the takings of the business—I took an inventory of the stock a week after I went in—I was desirous of not disturbing them more than possible, and Mrs. Snow told me she had an inventory of the things if I would accept it—I accepted that and made out one for myself by checking her inventory, which I found substantially correct—it is in</p>
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<p>one of my clerks' writing—the prisoner bought some things at Mr. Gobbey's without my knowledge—I wished to assist him in carrying, the composi
<lb/>tion, and I said we would go to a creditor and order these things, and by these means we might get his proxy—I had no idea when I went to Mr. Gobbey for obtaining his proxy that the debtor was going to buy those things for other purposes—on the Thursday following the goods came to my house, and the prisoner came in with Mr. Gobbey and presented a bill, which he wished me to pay—I said, "Who am I dealing with?—I shall have nothing to do with the transaction"—the bill was made out in the debtor's writing, and he put a considerable profit on these things—when I found I was trafficking with the debtor I declined to have anything more to do with it, and the things were taken away to Wood
<lb/>field Place.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I served him with notice that he was not to part with them—the account of my receipts and expenditure I passed under the rules of the Bankruptcy Court, on the 15th July—I did not receive 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., or any sum—when the debtor came to me and explained the position of affairs he supplied me with a list of over 100 creditors, amounting to 4,300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—I did not know any of the names till he told me—I found two entries of Snow for 175
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 859
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the same amount as the nomination papers—I believed they were real amounts, and afterwards I found out that they represented sums which were not due—he told me some creditors were friendly and some hostile—according to the list, supposing them to be
<hi rend="italic">bond fide</hi> creditors, we should easily get three-fourths in value.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-120" type="given" value="ELIZABETH ANN"/>ELIZABETH ANN SELWOOD</persName> </hi>. I live at 9, East Street, Queen's Park—on 15th July, 1879, I bought some furniture at Mr. Snow's shop, in Frankfort Terrace, and got the receipt from the prisoner for 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I first went to his father with my aunt, and the prisoner went with us in a cab—we bought no furniture there, but went back to the prisoner's shop—the goods were afterwards delivered to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I should not have paid for them if I had not got them—I bought them from upstairs and downstairs—they seemed to be new—I went for a stamped receipt the day after, when I saw Mr. Bloomfield in the shop—he did not see me take the receipt—Mrs. Snow was also there—I think she gave me the receipt—my husband went for a receipt stamp, and I think she told him to put it on.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> We had to go several times before we had the stamp put on—I do not remember speaking to Bloomfield about the stamp not being put on—when I spoke to Mr. and Mrs. Snow about it they said they had not got one, and we went the next day, and two or three days after.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-121" type="given" value="HANNAH"/>HANNAH WRIGHT</persName> </hi>. I live in Third Avenue, Queen's Park—in July last I bought some furniture at the prisoner's shop, in Frankfort Terrace, and I got a receipt for 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the goods were afterwards sent to my house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was in the shop not more than an hour—I saw Mr. Bloomfield there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The receipt is in the name of Treslow, my daughter—the things were brought to my daughter's house, where I had a room; that is why I gave her name.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MRS. TENNANT</hi>. I live at Sixth Avenue, Queen's Park—I bought</p>
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<p>some furniture of Mr. Prime, and got this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), which was sent after the goods were delivered—I paid the money to Snow.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I never saw Prime before.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-122" type="given" value="HENRY FILBERT"/>HENRY FILBERT PRIME</persName> </hi>. I entered the prisoner's service in October, 1879, and was to be paid by salary and commission—my engagement continued down to 2nd July, when the petition for liquidation was filed—Mr. Bloomfield came about 10th July—this paper is in my writing; it represents commission received from Snow between the week after the petition was filed until a week before the trustee came in—I did not know that Snow was going away the week before the trustee came in—I have the name of Selwood here, 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I was paid commission simply because I understood it was not to be handed over to Mr. Bloom
<lb/>field, and my arrangement was for salary and commission—that was in conversation with Snow—Mr. and Mrs. Snow paid me commission—I knew the goods had been taken out of stock—I find here standing 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., bed and bolster 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., also an entry of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; Newell, a pair of pictures 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; Mr. Fenwick, occasional table and carpet 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., mattress 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., &c.—I was paid about 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. commission—Bloomfield was never present when I was paid my commission—the goods mentioned in that list were usually delivered the first thing in the morning or the last thing at night—Bloomfield was not there when they were delivered; he would be there when some of the customers came in, sitting at the desk—he did not show the goods—Mrs. Selwood came there with her mother, I think—she came there first on foot, and went away in a cab with Snow—she came back with Snow, and after they had left Snow asked Bloomfield if they were suited, and he said "No, we have not anything good enough"—the goods were delivered at 11 p.m.—Mr. and Mrs. Snow gave directions for the goods to be removed to Queen's Park—I have not seen any goods since the trustee came in—goods were sent away in a truck 6, 7, or 8 times, and at different hours—Bloomfield was not present then—there was an arrangement, about 10 days after the petition was filed, between Mr. and Mrs. Snow and myself, that these goods were to be sent away, and I believe a room was first taken which I did not know anything about, in Walton Road, and several lots of goods were sent there, and they were taken from there on to the Queen's Park estate—after the room was taken there were about half a dozen different times when goods were taken—Mr. Snow left it to her discretion—I do not know the value of them—there was enough to furnish two rooms—they were from new stock, and worth a great deal more than 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I believe I have always borne a very good character—there was no crockery amongst the goods—I did not help to remove them to the lodgings—Bloomfield did not take part in the sales—if the money had been handed over to Bloomfield I should have lost my commission—I have seen Snow take money on sales and hand over part of the money to Bloomfield when he has been present—in the case of the sale to Treslow 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was handed to the receiver.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> This receipt is not in my writing—I did not receive the money—I had my commission on it—after the prisoner told me it was his transaction I sold the articles to Mrs. Tennat—I kept account of what Snow paid me commission for—I had commission from the receiver on the 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and from Snow on the 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-123" type="given" value="LEWIS"/>LEWIS BLOOMFIELD</persName> </hi>. I was clerk to Mr. Brown, the receiver, and entered</p>
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<p>the premises, 6, Frankfort Terrace, in July, about a week after the petition was filed—I stayed there from about 8th July to 4th August—Mrs. Sel
<lb/>wood came to the shop and went upstairs with the prisoner, and then downstairs in the show-room—she went away with Snow and returned—Snow told me that the goods were not suitable, and that she was going to get married—I have never seen this account before (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I never received 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from Snow, or 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. with reference to Mrs. Tennant's goods—I cannot recollect that Snow paid me anything at all—I do not know of 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of goods going to Mrs. Selwood, or of their being sent away at night.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not interfere in the business—I did not show Mrs. Wright over the place—there was a mistake in the name.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-124" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT HULL</persName> </hi>. I was a porter, and was continued in the employment by the receiver—on 13th July I saw some goods on a truck on the Carlton Bridge, about 100 yards from Frankfort Terrace—the prisoner asked me to move them, which I consented to do, and I moved them to 4, Frankfort Terrace, a linendraper's shop, three doors off—I saw the prisoner the next day, when he asked me to buy the goods, so that he could move them away—I had no money to give him, and he gave me a bill receipted for 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and they were to be taken to my place—I asked him if it was right to do so—he said the goods had not been on the premises, and it was all right, and that they did not belong to Mr. Brown, and the goods had been taken to Woodfield Place—after that Bloomfield came over—he asked me what was going on, and told me to leave them alone; he said it was not right, and cautioned me against doing it—I knew of rooms being taken at Queen's Park, and I moved goods there in the middle of July—I moved goods five or six times—when I left with the goods Bloomfield was not able to see me—they were taken from stock in Frankfort Terrace.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The goods at Woodfield Place were the ones which he said had never been in the place—he told me he was not going to let Mr. Brown have them, that he had bought them for Mr. Brown, of Gobbey, and Mr. Brown was not going to pay him for them—it was Mrs. Snow who asked me to take them to Queen's Park—they were front and back rooms, and the furniture was enough to furnish them.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-125" type="given" value="RICHARD GEORGE"/>RICHARD GEORGE ASHMAN</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Somerset Constabulary</hi>). I received directions from Scotland Yard—I saw the prisoner a fortnight before that on Good Friday; I did not know his name then, and did not speak to him—I afterwards saw him at his uncle's house—I told him I had instructions to arrest him on a charge of fraudulent bankruptcy, and I should take him in custody, and I did so—he said, "I am innocent; some one will suffer"—in order to get at my pocket-book I had to take my handcuffs out—he said, "You are not going to put those on"—I said, "No, not if you behave yourself"—he was either ill or pretended to be ill, and he became faint; I counted him to be ill at the time—I took him along the road, and when near a wood he made a sudden bolt—there were some children in the way, and I could not immediately follow, and I afterwards took him at a cottage about five miles away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have come all the way from Dunster to tell you this—the prisoner was living there with his uncle and aunt—I noticed him about a fortnight before—he turned pale when he saw the handcuffs.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-126" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ROBSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Intpector</hi>). I produce the warrant for taking</p>
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<p>the prisoner dated 31st December, and about three weeks after I was instructed to execute it if I could—I communicated with the police at Dunster.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I ran about London, and my agent—I found that the prisoner was in Dunster—I ultimately received a telegram from the Somersetshire Police stating that they had detained him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-127" type="surname" value="ANDREWS"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-127" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH ANDREWS</persName> </hi>. I am a Fellow of the Society of Chartered Account
<lb/>ants, and am the trustee under the liquidation of William Snow—I have investigated the estate—the 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. received from Mrs. Selwood has not been accounted for, or the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mrs. Tennant, or 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mrs. Wright—the prisoner has never handed them over to me—I found some furniture on the premises in Woodfield Place, value about 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the prisoner did not tell me that it was there; he did not tell me that he had furniture anywhere except at 6, Frankfort Terrace—I examined him at the meeting of creditors, and he then stated that there was no furniture elsewhere, and he said he had 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in money in his hands, and a watch and chain, which he said he would hand over, but he has never done so—the assets realised about 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the pound—Mr. Brown's expenses are cut very small; we taxed them—I was present at a meeting on 22nd July when the statement was presented—the prisoner's private furniture was worth about 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the stock I put down at about 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth was sold with the stock-in-trade.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I only asked the prisoner about the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. by my Counsel; I have not seen him myself to ask, and the same thing applies to the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—his shop was full, and the stock realised 372
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—514
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was the cost price of the goods—there was 27 1/2 per cent, discount on their sale—514
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is what they would cost the shopkeeper—he told me a short time before the meeting that he had pawned his watch—I asked him for the ticket or the watch—he said his wife had 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at home.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner was asked at the Bankruptcy Court "Have you since you filed your petition sold goods for which you have not accounted to the receiver," and he said "Not to my knowledge."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FOX</hi>. I am a feather manufacturer, of 1, Bridge Terrace, Harrow Road—on 15th July I sold to Snow a palliasse, a feather bed, a bolster, and pillows—I have not the account with me—on 20th July I sold him a feather bed and a set of cushions, and on 24th July two palliasses, a bed, bolster, and two pillows—he paid me for them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I knew I was amongst the list of persons to the amount of 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to have notice of the liquidation—I proved for 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd, I believe I was not returned for a penny more than was owing to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When the goods were taken round Mr. Snow went with the carman—I did not know Mrs. Tennant from the other persons—the goods were paid for before they left our yard—I believe they went to Queen's Park.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-128" type="given" value="HENRIETTA"/>HENRIETTA PROCTOR</persName> </hi>. I live at Notting Hill, and was in the service of Mr. Snow in July last—I engaged the room in Queen's Park for them to go and live in, at the request of Mr. Prime—he said I had better engage it, and he would get some things away for Mrs. Snow and the baby—two bedsteads were taken, and a small one for the baby—Mr. Prime took some—I did not take any—I went with him—it was Mrs.</p>
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<p>Snow who did it—Mr. Snow knew nothing about it because he was not there when instructions were given to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am not related to them—I did live at Falcon Terrace, Kilburn—I did not get a notice-paper of the insolvency—I did not know I was put down for 65
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he never owed me a shilling.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-129" type="given" value="WILLIAM SNOW,"/>WILLIAM SNOW, SEN</persName> </hi>. I live in Norfolk Terrace, Harrow Road, and am a furniture dealer—as far as I could see, the furniture and stock that was in the place was worth the whole amount it cost, viz., 1,400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—every room was full, and it fairly represented the amount of stock he had—I am a creditor of my son's for 168
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I advanced 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the day before he filed the petition—Mr. Brown came to me about his nomination as receiver, and I signed my name—I did not put my name to 859
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I know nothing about the figures—he never asked me what my debt was—in 1878 my son had the misfortune to be affected in his mind—Mr. Brown was a clever man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not know that my son had discussed with Brown the possibility of getting enough creditors to approve of a composition; I know nothing of it—I did not know my son had returned me at 859
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and my other son, Thomas Snow at Harrow for 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-130" type="surname" value="SNOW"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-130" type="given" value="THOMAS KEMP"/>THOMAS KEMP SNOW</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's brother—I corroborate my father in saying that the stock sold up represented as large a stock as he had ever had in the place—I was there within a few days—I never authorised him to put down my name for 375
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I knew nothing of it—I signed to appoint Mr. Brown receiver—I knew I was not a creditor—I did not know I had no right to sign—I did not know that my brother had discussed the question about the number and value of creditors—I did not know anything about it until a few minutes ago.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not know of Mr. Tilsley, the solicitor—neither I nor my father employed any solicitor in this liquidation—it was all Mr. Brown's doing.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810523-549-offence-1 t18810523-name-133"/>J. G. Howes</persName>, they having both been convicted of felony.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-549-18810523 t18810523-549-punishment-19"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-549-18810523 t18810523-549-punishment-20"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, May</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">For cases tried this day see Kent and Surrey Cases.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, May</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th, and</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Friday and Saturday, May</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th and</hi> 28
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Field.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MEAD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR HARDINGE GIFFARD</hi>, Q.C,
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Goldman</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi> or
<hi rend="italic">George Funk; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Nicholas Funk.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">lithographer, of</hi> 36,
<hi rend="italic">Old Jewry, put in and explained several plans of the premises made by him.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-138" type="given" value="THOMAS WESTON"/>THOMAS WESTON PILLEY</persName> </hi>. My father is the landlord of 45, Barbican—the top floor, the second floor, and a room on the first floor were let to Nicholas Funk about 1878, and the lower part was let to a woollen merchant and a printer—a door at the foot of the stairs shuts off the second and third floors—the front street door is on one side, and is the usual means of access to the whole of the premises, and it was, I believe, secured by a padlock—Nicholas Funk paid 55
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. rent at first, which was afterwards reduced to 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—neither the woollen merchant nor the printer lived there—they locked their doors, and the padlock was common to both—there is a coffee-shop seven or eight doors away.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-139" type="given" value="FRANCES ANN"/>FRANCES ANN HANKS</persName> </hi>. I have lived at 46, Barbican nearly two years—Harry Pierrepoint lodges in the house—on the night of the fire I was standing at our door, and saw Miss Funk leaving the premises—she locked the door—Nicholas Funk was standing about two yards from her, and they both walked away towards Aldgate, and about five minutes afterwards the fire broke out—our door adjoins No. 45; there is only a piece of wood between them—it has been a larger door made into two; a piece of wood is between them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. Mary Ann Torrington was not with me, I was alone—people were passing and repassing in the street; there was no crowd—it is a busy thoroughfare—my father is a policeman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>, I saw Harry Pierrepoint standing outside Mr. Dewick's shop, next door, No. 46, between our door and Plough Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-140" type="surname" value="PIERREPOINT"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-140" type="given" value="HARRY"/>HARRY PIERREPOINT</persName> </hi>. I am a coachman to Thomas and Jones, woollen merchants, 138, Queen Victoria Street, and live at 46, Barbican—I was outside No. 46 on the night of the fire, and saw Miss Funk leaving No. 45—her futher was standing about two yards from her, and as he saw her coming he started to walk on; they walked together towards Aldersgate, and the fire broke out five minutes afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. I lodge at Hank's, the policeman's; he is the father of the last witness—I have spoken to him about the fire and about Funk—a detective came and spoke to me on the Friday morning before I went to the station; I do not know his name—there was a public lamp opposite and three lights outside the Black Horse.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-141" type="surname" value="FOSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-141" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FOSTER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Neville, a printer, of 45, Barbican, ground floor—the practice is for the last person leaving to lock the padlock and take the key to the coffee-shop, out while our office is open it is there—on the night of the fire I went to the coffee-shop at 7.10, and remained till 7.30 or 7.35—Miss Funk brought the key there and handed it to me, and about ten minutes after that the fire broke out; it seemed to me almost immediately after I placed the key on the hook that the fire-engine came—I rushed out and found the fire was at No. 45—the fireman was trying to open the door, which was locked, and before I returned with the key he had broken the door open.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. A person going from Funk's to the coffee-shop would go in the opposite direction to Aldersgate Street—the coffee-shop is 40, and there is a street between 40 and 44—they were going to the right towards Barbican—45 is on the north side of the street.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-142" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-142" type="surname" value="PEARSON"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-142" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE PEARSON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Charles Pearson, of Princes Street, Barbican—the back of our house looks on to the leads of 45, Barbioan—on</p>
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<p>8th March I was standing at my back window looking towards No. 45, and saw a man from the top window lower himself and drop down—I opened my window and called out "What are you doing there? "loud enough for him to hear, and he crouched down to hide himself from my view by a low wall which was between me and him, and in a moment the house was in a total flame—I called out much louder, "Han, the house is all in flames"—I had only noticed a dull light when I first called out—I went to my street door and stayed there half an hour, and a man passed and said "Don't be alarmed, the fire will all be out in a quarter of an hour"—I heard. George Funk speak at the police-court, and the voice was the same—his figure was just the same, but I do not know his face—the light I first saw was not in the room the man came out of, but under it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi>. My attention was attracted by the breaking of the attic window—my window is 10 feet away, and I could see plainly all that was going on—I was as near as I am to you—when I saw George Funk at the police-court he was in the dock—I had not till then seen the man again who told me that the fire would be out in a quarter of an hour.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-143" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-143" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-143" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Thomas Taylor, of 8, Bridgewater Square—our back windows look on His leads at the back of 45, Barbican—I recollect the fire there; I heard a window break; I was then in one of my top rooms, and the window was open at the top; I opened it farther, looked out, and saw two men on the left-hand corner of the leads, on my left hand, right at the corner; I turned my head to tell my little girl to give the alarm, and when I looked again I saw only one man, fie was standing upright. (
<hi rend="italic">The witness here marked the plan at the spots where the men stood.</hi>) There was a very bright reflection from the leads, it lit up the leads—I do not know what became of the other man—when I saw the two men I saw no fire, but I was going to give the alarm because they were on the leads—I said to a young person "Look at those two men," and she said "Look at the fire"—I then told the child to give the alarm—when I saw one man remaining the back door leading to the leads had not been opened, because, after the flames had gone down I saw the door open and the firemen come out from the leads' door—I remained there looking and saw one or two men come out; the first one had a lantern, he looked about and called out "What are you doing here?" a voice answered, but I did not hear what it said; the fireman then said, "Setting the place on fire"—four or six firemen surrounded the man and took him off the leads—I then went down into Barbican and spoke to the fireman—I do not identify Goldman, but I identify George Funk by his figure as one of the men on the leads, and by his voice also; he said that he came to see his father.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR HARDINGE GIFFARD</hi>. What I say is that I saw one of the men whom I had seen on the leads surrounded by five or six firemen and taken in at the door—that was the man whose voice I heard; they all went in off the leads through that door into the house—not a quarter of an hour elapsed from the time my attention was attracted to the leads till I heard the voices, but it may be longer.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi>. My attention was attracted by the breaking of a window, and I at once looked out and saw the two men; when I looked again I saw one man with his back to me—I said at</p>
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<p>Guildhall that I recognised George Funk by his figure, and. I was just going to say "I think that is the man by his height," when a gentleman Said "She only saw the back of him," and I was handed down; he had rather high shoulders—I don't think I was twice as far from him as I am from you—I told my husband that the man had rather square shoulders—he had not said anything to me about anybody's shoulders being square—when I saw George Funk at Guildhall, in the dock, I had no doubt that his back accurately corresponded with what I had seen—I had not had any conversation with anybody before I went there—I was examined on the Tuesday after the fire, a gentleman had called on me on the Monday—I had mentioned the matter to persons living in the house, and the policeman came, and on Tuesday I went before the Alderman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I watched the door, and only the firemen went in and out—the words "I came to see, father," were nearly the last words I heard before I went into the house.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-144" type="surname" value="DANE"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-144" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DANE</persName> </hi>. I am an engineer, belonging to the Metropolitan Fire Brigade, stationed at Whitecross Street—I was called to this fire about 8.5 p.m., and went with a hose-truck and escape to 45, Barbican, and five minutes afterwards another escape and hose-truck came—our station is only 200 yards away, and I got there three minutes after the alarm—the house was padlocked; I ordered a man to get an axe; a man asked me if he should get the key; I said "Yes," and while he was gone I got the axe, broke the padlock off, and went upstairs to the second floor—the floors of both the second-floor rooms were fairly on fire, and particular spots were burning more than the rest; I ordered the engine to work and extinguish the fire; the floor and all the partitions were on fire they were of wood—I crawled along the floor, the place being full of smoke, to the double door leading to the leads; you pass one room door before you come to the other; I believe the first door was secured top and bottom by bolts; one door was, but I can't say which; I believe both were secured—I went out on to the leads with another fireman, with a lantern in my hand—I looked round on the leads, went some few feet, and then we both returned to the room with our lamps in our hand, and in six or seven minutes a person entered the room from the leads; we were then turning over the fire and extinguishing any little fire we could, find: the man passed, making his way towards the staircase without speaking; the door he was making for was all burnt away, and it was all open—as he passed me I put my hand on his shoulder and asked him what he was doing there; I could hardly understand what he stated, as he spoke very indifferent English: at last, after a while, I got out of him. that he came there to settle a bill; he said, "I was upstairs along with Mr. Funk, junior, and he went away, and I was making myself a cigarette to smoke, and before I had finished smoking it I saw some smoke coming up the staircase, and I went and got out at the back attic window on to the leads; I came here to settle a bill which has been due for three weeks"—Goldman is the man—I communicated that to the officer in charge of the premises, leaving Goldman in charge of the senior engineer; we then went and informed Inspector Foster, the chief superintendent—when I returned to the. room I found Goldman on the leads with Frogden and Johnson and several other firemen; I did not hear what passed—they all came in together, and went downstairs—I went to the station with</p>
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<p>Goldman—I returned next morning to the premises, went into the top room, and examined the window; it is a casement window, opening like a door; the glass had been broken by some one inside, and not by the fire—on the Tuesday night after the fire was extinguished, and before I saw Goldman, I saw that the gas was full on from the main, and the end of the pipe looked melted away, and the delivery pipe also; the cock was turned full on; there was an iron pipe on the meter side; the gas was escaping—about six weeks before this I was called to the same premises, about 10.30 a.m.; a fire was then burning in the front room second floor—the printer's people were engaged in extinguishing it when I got there, and not much damage Was done—when Goldman came into the room from the leads he passed Johnson before he came to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. GIFFARD</hi>. I said before the Magistrate, "I saw the prisoner coming into the room from the flat; I asked if he was the occupier of the premises; he said 'No, I have come to settle a bill with Mr. Funk;' "that was the account I first gave; he said that Mr. Funk had left him on the top floor; I think he said Mr. George-Funk, junior—the senior officer present makes a report in writing about the fire—I do not think I have mentioned before to-day his going out on the leads and being surrounded by the firemen—I saw him with the other men on the leads, but I did not heat what passed—I do not know how he got out on the leads—the second-floor rooms are divided by a landing, and the partition was on fire—the whole of the second floor was alight when I got there, including both rooms.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-145" type="surname" value="JOHNSON"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-145" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM JOHNSON</persName> </hi>. I am a fireman, of Whitecross Street—on 8th March I assisted in extinguishing the fire at 45, Barbican—after it was extinguished I was very hot, and went out on the leads to have a blow; Bane had been there before me; while I was standing at the door a man passed me—Dane, who was then in the room, stopped him, put his hand on his shoulder, and said "What are you doing?"—I could not under
<lb/>stand what the man answered, but shortly afterwards he was brought but on the leads with two or three of our men—Goldman is the man—I followed them behind; they had a conversation, and I understood Gold
<lb/>man to say that he had come there to settle a bill with Mr. Funk; he mentioned Mr. Funk's name, and to the best of my recollection he said it was about 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the police officer then came, and he was taken away from the leffcis into custody—he was about five or six feet from the staircase when Dane stopped him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. GIFFARD</hi>. I was not present at the whole conversation between Dane and Goldman, the nearest I was to him was about 10 feet—I did not hear Dane say "Are you the occupier of the premises?"—the first thing I heard was Dane saying "What are you doing here?"—I was standing at the door at that time, about 10 feet from him—I swear I did not hear Dane say "Are you the occupier?"—I was not taking much notice, and the conversation was not meant for me to hear; Goldman spoke very badly, and I did not understand what he said—I did not hear Dane say any more; he went away to speak to some of the senior officers, I think.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-146" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-146" type="surname" value="SATTODERS"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-146" type="given" value="WILLIAM SEDGWICK"/>DR. WILLIAM SEDGWICK SATTODERS</persName> </hi>. I am medical officer of health and public analyst for the City of London—on 12th March I received this parcel (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from Wright, containing a lot of charred paper and pieces of rag, remnants mixed up as they are now; it was about three</p>
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<p>times the size which it now is; a greasy substance was smeared over them which was mixed with water—these are the fragments of a material known as swansdown, which has a fluffy appearance, and that was tied in bundles as this is; the paper was chiefly newspaper smeared over with some greasy substance, and saturated with moisture—the general bundle was moist as if it had been wetted with water; the swansdown was moist, but I did not observe the greasy substance there; it had a very strange smell of burning and also of paraffin—between the time of my getting the Magistrate's order to analyse it and my doing so next day it was placed in a closed cupboard in my laboratory for 24 hours still intact and, not knowing what it contained, I asked my assistant if he had upset a lamp, as I was met by a very strong smell of paraffin; the parcel was then intact—I untied it, and took about a quarter of the whole; I divided my operation into two processes—I first filled a retort with fragments of the materials, between two and three pints of it cut very small; I subjected that to the process of dry distillation at the temperature of boiling water, and from that I distilled between three and four ounces of a fluid, of which this bottle contains one-half—I burnt it, and found it contained a spirit of hydro-carbon nature, which is a constituent of paraffin, but it was mixed with water in certain proportions—I burnt it as I should a spirit lamp, and it gave a very black flame, peculiar to hydro-carbon spirit, and it had also had the smell of it—my second process was simply to boil in an open vessel another fourth of the same material at the temperature of 212° Fahr., or boiling water, and at the end of 10 hours I got a distinct film of pure paraffin wax, which is contra-distinguished from the oil; it has the physical characteristics of spermaceti—in my opinion that was solid paraffin; it is called paraffin wax—I think the parcel had been smeared over with paraffin oil, but scarcely saturated—I could form no idea how much paraffin had been used; if the whole of the moisture was from paraffin I should have got a much larger quantity.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. GIFFARD</hi>. Paraffin is distilled from coal and shale; it represents a solid form and a liquid form—all mineral oils would not produce the same result—paraffin chemically is a hydro-carbon in which hydrogen combines in the highest form that it will combine with carbon. (
<hi rend="italic">Giving the chemical formula.</hi>) Benzole is one of the hydro-carbons, and is known commercially as benzoline; it varies in purity; it is also called belmontine and benzine—the base is popularly known as benzoline and benzole; that would not be chemically pure, it is very often adulterated with naphtha—it has half a dozen different names in common, and a great many more than half a dozen degrees of purity—impure benzoline would not produce the chemical results which I found—such a flame as I found would not be found from adulterated benzoline—I have not the least recollection of saying so before the Magistrate; I did not say "Benzoline is a dear and pure oil, such a flame might be found in adulterated benzoline, "my deposition is not taken correctly, a portion of it was read over to me, and a mutilated part of it—very likely I did say so, I can't recollect; but it is highly improbable that such a flame would be found from adulterated benzoline—benzoline is extensively adulterated—it is familiarly known to be used by furriers and other persons when they want to get rid of grease—the operation is this: the fat is taken up by the benzoline, as it would be by ether, it dissolves the grease when it finds itself in contact with it, and it is held in solution, and can be</p>
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<p>recovered by evaporating the benzoline—I do not think paraffin would have that effect, but I won't speak positively, I have not tried it—a mixture of benzoline and paraffin would have the same effect in a lesser degree; the benzole would seize a portion of the fat, and the paraffin would remain intact—paraffin has not the effect of dissolving grease, but I do not speak experimentally—I do not know whether benzole is more expensive than paraffin, because I never bought either, except for chemical purposes—I cut the substances in pieces about the size of a nut before putting them into the retort—when I said the grease was smeared over I meant that there was a trace of a person, having intentionally smeared it over; I say that some substance of a greasy nature was spread over the pieces of rag—I do not mean as if there had been oil on the floor, and it had been wiped up with paper; it was more uniformly spread over the paper, as if produced by the action of smearing; it certainly was not done in the way you describe, because if oil was poured on this it would go right through to the under-layers, but it was very distinct from the water—what I mean by smears is that oil had passed through the paper in some way—I won't say it was saturated, because it was not all over it—the oil had gone through successive layers of paper, principally newspaper—this had not the appearance of that which I analysed—I do not see any
<lb/>thing like it here; this piece looks a little more like it than any of the others, but it has not the fresh grease which it had then—I think I ought to say that I took the worst portions for the purpose of analysis, I took those most affected—this is not in its original condition, it is dried up, but subject to that effect it is as it was when it came to me; it is stiff now, which has curled up the cardboard—if you were to empty this oil on your brief it would gradually spread all over it, assuming the fluid to be of the same density—by smearing I mean that it had spread by capillary attraction or in some other way.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> If I had subjected benzole to the same experiment I should not expect to find so much film or paraffin wax; in fact, benzole boils at 187 deg. Fahr., and consequently would not have come over into the receiver for distillation at 212 degrees—I do not consider the fluid which I found there efficacious for removing grease from furn.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-147" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP BROOKS</persName> </hi>. I am the foreman of the London Salvage Corps—on Tuesday, 8th March, about 8.30, I went to 45, Barbican, and found this cash-box (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) on the first-floor landing; it was locked; I gave it to Salter next day—I found on the floor a quantity of cuttings, which looked like linen, and some newspaper which smelt very strongly of paraffin.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810523-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-148" type="surname" value="HILL"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-148" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN HILL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Police inspecter</hi>). I was in charge of Moor Lane Station when Sergeant Wisby brought Goldman in about 9.10 on Friday, the 8th—Wisby said that the fireman Dane had found him on the pre
<lb/>mises, 45, Barbican, where a fire broke out—I said, "Go and fetch Dane here"—he left and Dane came, and in Goldman's presence said, "I saw him coming off the leads at 45, Barbican, where there had been a fire and he tried to pass me without speaking, making his way to the stair
<lb/>case"—Goldman said in very imperfect English, "I called there for a bill which was overdue for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I saw George Funk, and he took me to the upper top floor, and told me to sit down and he would go and get the money; he then left, and I commenced to make a cigarette to smoke, when I noticed the smoke coming upstairs, and teeing there was no meant of getting downstairs again I broke the window and went through on to</p>
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<p>the leads"—I said; "Did you see George Funk again?"—he said "No"—I detained him, and he was charged with being concerned with George Funk in setting fire to the premises—he did not say how long the bill had been overdue—half or three-quarters of an hour after that Nicholas and Fanny Funk came to the station, and in Goldman's presence Fanny Funk said, "have come to explain, about 7.30 I saw the prisoner Goldman and my brother standing on the staircase. I went into a room on the first floor to wash, and when I came out again, not seeing them, I asked if all were gone, and receiving no answer I went out, locked the door, put the padlock on, and took the keys and left them at the coffee-shop close by"—Goldman spoke to her, but he said nothing in English—on Thursday, 10th March, I went with Wright and Latter to 45, Barbican—I went on to the leads, and George Funk came to me there—I said, "Mr. Funk, junior, I suppose"—he said "Yes"—I said, "There has been a fire on these premises, and I have a man now in custody"—he said, "Yes, I have seen the charge in the paper this morning, and my name is attached to it what can I do to have it altered? for it will ruin me in my business"—I said, "I cannot advise you, but Goldman said he left you on the premises the night before, promising to return to him"—he said, "But I don't think I promised to return; a friend of mine called, and I went out with him; we called at a public-house in Barbican; I forgot all about Goldman, and then we left for Islington"—Fanny Funk was on the leads and heard that conversation—I said, "Your sister here says that she last night saw you and Goldman standing on the staircase when she went into her room to wash"—he said to her, "You did?"—she said, "Yes, I saw you there"—I said, "Who keeps the key of the inner door of the house?"—he said, "I do," and put his hand in his pocket and pulled out a bunch of keys—I said, "Are there any duplicates?"—he said, "No"—I said, "The doors were not locked last night, how was that?"—he said, "Oh, I forgot them; I do not at all times lock them; they are sometimes left unlocked at night"—I directed an officer to take him to the station, and he was charged with being concerned with Gold
<lb/>man in setting fire to the premises—he said, "I am as innocent as a child unborn; I know nothing about it"—after entering the charge I showed him a bundle tied, something like tape, and said, "This has been found on the floor of the second floor back room, and appears to be saturated-with paraffin oil"—he said, "There was a small bottle of benzoline on the table at the corner where this was found, and it must have been knocked over on to it; it is a corner where we throw all our waste"—I said, "But this was not waste"—he said "Yes"—I examined the second floor that day, and saw a large quantity of rubbish, cuttings of a furrier, and I saw paper lying there, but did not examine it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. GIFFARD</hi>. I asked these questions after Gold
<lb/>man was in custody—I asked him if he saw George Funk again after he promised to return—he was brought in at a little after 9, and sat in the office till nearly 5 next morning; he was not in a cell, but he was tech
<lb/>nically in custody—while he was there he Said, "I noticed smoke coming up into the room, and I was nearly suffocated"—I forgot that—he also said, "I broke the window of the room, and went out on the leads, and was there until a fireman came upstairs"—he was standing by the window when Fanny Funk entered the station, and we had the conver
<lb/>sation in the room where he remained till 5 a.m.</p>
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<p>penny and some empty paper bags from the bank, nothing else—my brother George fives at home at Bow, where I live—I have known Goldman a great many years, almost as long as I can remember—he was a Mend of my father's, only on business affairs—he is a general dealer in furs; he buys and sells—I only knew of the 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill, since I have heard it mentioned in Court here—I did not know anything ofit before—I only heard it at Guildhall—I did not know of it at the time Goldman called—I saw the samples that were made up for my father on the Friday—he had been to Manchester before on several occasions on business—I don't know whether he had customers there—he may have Bent up orders; I don't know that he did—I kept the books, part of them—I do not know the name of any customer at Manchester—a part of the books my father would put down, himself, in Hebrew; those I kept were in English, stock books of goods I sent out—I did not make any entry of the samples that he took away—I don't remember when my father went last to Manchester before this; I can't remember—he was not away from London when the fire took place in January, 1877; he was in his residence in Castle Street, Whitechapel, where we lived at that time—I don't remember whether my father was bankrupt in 1877—I shall be 19 next birthday—my father has 11 children.</p>
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<persName id="t18810523-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810523-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-149" type="surname" value="WRIGHT"/>
<interp inst="t18810523-name-149" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WRIGHT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I found this card of Mr. Rothschild on the person of Nicholas Funk when I searched him at the police station on the 22nd—at that time it had no writing on the back; it was perfectly clean—this memorandum was made by Latter, one of the officers—while I was making inquiries into the case I saw the witness Pattison, on the Sunday after George Funk was in custody; that would be the 13th, I think—Latter was with me—I told her that we were officers—I took dawn her statement—I asked her if she had seen an oil can or a lamp—she said "No"—since yesterday I have purchased a pint of benzoline at 32, Fore Street, City; I paid 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for it; I also bought half a pint of paraffin, for which I paid 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Several witneses deposed to the good character of each of the prisoners.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, May</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; a handkerchief, and a little box—I watched the prisoner into Rose Street, I think it is; it leads into the market—I went to Marlborough</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I did not pick out a prisoner on the right of you—you helped to steal my bag by striking me on my hands and arms—I did not say before the Magistrate that you took my bag—I did not consult a doctor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-153" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE PENNYMOULD</persName> </hi>. I am the wile of Henry Pennymould, of 27, Porter Street—I saw the prisoner and four others come out of a public-house—they lounged upon our barrow, which was standing outside our shop—my husband told them to go away; the prisoner said he would knock his b——head off—I saw them go up Titchfield Street, and stand against the railings at No. 7 for a minute or two, and they walked along, the prisoner and another being in front of the proseoutrix—the prisoner struck her on her arm—they pushed her back against the house—one man took her bag and ran round a little turning—my house is No. 6, and this occurred at 8 or 9, on the same side of the way—I have no doubt the prisoner was one of the men—I went to the station on 19th May, and picked him out directly from six or eight others.</p>
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<lb/>stable in Porter Street—Mrs. Pennymould called our attention to these men, and I went to the back of Prince's Row; that is a court leading into Titchfield Street—I went into a public-house to see the prisoner; I found nobody—that was about 4 o'clock—I afterwards found the bag (
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<hi rend="italic">to a conviction of felony at Brentford in May</hi>, 1880,
<hi rend="italic">in the name of Daniel Daley.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORACE AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 464). At 7.45 a.m. on 13th May I was on duty, and passing through St. Bride Street with Holmes, I saw Williamson, who has pleaded guilty, leaving No. 19, carrying this parcel tied up in brown paper; this sack was with it—I followed him through Poppin's Court, across Fleet Street and New Bridge Street into Ludgate Hill Railway Station—he left the parcel at the cloak-room, and received a ticket for it, No. 6—after he left I went to the cloak-room and inspected the parcel—I then went back to Messrs. Macintosh's warehouse, and saw Mr. Tonge, the manager—I left the other officer to watch the cloak-room—I saw Williamson walking about the warehouse; he was called into the office—Mr. Tonge went back with me to the cloak-room, and saw what the parcel contained—Mr. Tonge returned, and I followed some time afterwards—Williamson was then in the manager's room; I had a conversation with him—I then went back and kept observation on the cloak-room till about 3.15, in consequence of what Williamson had said—about</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I said to Banks "Can you give me the gentleman's name?"—I did not notice that that is not in my deposition—I believe I gave it in evidence—I know I said it. to the prisoner.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 483). I was with Palmer, and saw Williamson leave the premises with this parcel under his arm—I was left in charge of the cloak-room while Palmer went back to the premises—I was present at the cloak-room at 8.15 p.m. when Banks came up for the parcel—I was with Palmer when he arrested him in Bridge Street—Palmer said "lama police-officer, you have got a large parcel; where did you get it from?" He said "From the railway station cloak-room"—Palmer said "What does it contain?" he said "Rubber"—Palmer said "How do you account for the parcel being there altogether?" he said "A gentleman customer of mine left it there and gave me the ticket this morning"—Palmer said "That is all wrong; who is this gentleman customer of yours Is he in business?"he made no answer—Palmer said "Where are you going to take it to?" he made no answer—Palmer said "I shall take you to the station and charge you with receiving this, well knowing it to have been stolen by a man in the employ of Messrs. Macintosh and Co., of 19, St. Bride Street, named Williamson; he made no reply—he was taken to the station and charged—I was not called at the police-court; I was present all the time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810523-name-161" type="given" value="JOHN WILDING"/>JOHN WILDING TONGE</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Messrs. Macintosh and Co., of 19, St. Bride Street; they have also a manufactory—Williamson was in their service over 30 years—these cuttings were in his charge after they came to St. Bride Street; we sell them at about 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a pound—on 13th May Palmer gave me information, and I went with him to the cloak-room at Ludgate Hill Railway Station—I saw the parcel containing the cuttings', and identified them—I subsequently saw Williamson, and had some conversation with him—I saw the parcel weighed; it weighed 26lb.—its value is 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I have only seen Banks once previous to his being brought up—he has bought goods of our manufacture—Williamson had no authority to dispose of these cuttings—if we had known of it he would have been discharged immediately—I know Banks had a shop at Dow
<lb/>gate Hill for the sale of indiarubber goods—he bought some cuttings on 23rd October last—they were sent to his shop in Aldersgate Street.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Williamson was present when I saw Banks.</p>
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