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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions paper.</p>
<p>McARTHUR, MAYOR.</p>
<p>THIRD SESSION, HELD JANUARY 10TH, 1881.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE.</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-1" type="given" value="JAMES DROVER"/>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</persName> </p>
<p>AND</p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-2" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-3" type="given" value="EDWARD T. E."/>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.</persName>,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS AND SONS, 119, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>Law Booksellers and Publishers.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, January 10th, 1881, and following days,</p>
<p>Including certain cases committed to this Court under order in Council, pursuant to the Spring Assizes Act of 1879,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-4" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM McARTHUR</persName>, M.P., LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-5" type="given" value="WILLIAM ROBERT"/>WILLIAM ROBERT GROVE</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of the Common Pleas Division of the High Court of Justice; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-6" type="given" value="CHARLES CHRISTOPHER SYNGE"/>CHARLES CHRISTOPHER SYNGE BOWEN</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of the Queen's Bench Division of the High Court of Justice; Sir
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-7" type="given" value="ROBERT WALTER"/>ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</persName> </hi>, Knt., M.P., Sir
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-9" type="given" value="ANDREW"/>ANDREW LUSK</persName> </hi>, Bart, M.P., Sir
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-11" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES WHETHAM</persName> </hi>, Knt., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-12" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-14" type="given" value="WILLIAM THOMAS"/>WILLIAM THOMAS CHARLEY</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., D.C.L., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-15" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court: Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden, for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal court.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-16" type="given" value="ROBERT NICHOLAS"/>ROBERT NICHOLAS FOWLER</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P., Alderman,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-19" type="given" value="EDWARD JOHN"/>EDWARD JOHN LAYTON</persName> </hi>, Esq.,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">McARTHUR, MAYOR. THIRD SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
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<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This was about 9 o'clock on Saturday night; it was a dark night—I said at the police-court that I saw the barmaid take something out of the paper—I did not see the prisoner again till I went to the police-station, and picked him out at once from six or seven more—he was in the middle of the room.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The others had their hats off—Frederick Palmer was there at the same time and for the same purpose; I went in first—I took the sovereign out of the paper, and not the barmaid.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; he tendered a counterfeit sovereign—he took it out of the paper, I did not, and he laid the paper on the counter—it was marked, and I gave it to Mrs. Nagle—I Knew</p>
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<p>it was bad by the weight, and asked where he brought it from; he first said "From Miss Baker," and afterwards that a man gave it to him in Mandeville Place—I told the potman to go out after him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I do not know Miss Baker, but Mr. Baker is a cus
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I first said that I got the coin from Miss Baker, and then that a man gave it to me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I received it from the prisoner, but I said that I received it from Miss Baker, because he saw me coming from Baker's—I told a deliberate lie; the only other lie I have told in the case was about my taking the coin out of the paper; that is lie number two.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner did not tell me to say anything about where I got it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant D</hi>). I received this coin from Miss Clelo—on 23rd December, about 8.30 p.m., I went with Hughes and Palmer to Tottenham Court Road Police-station—the prisoner was placed with several others; he was in custody on another charge of uttering a bad half-sovereign on that afternoon—the boys went in separately, and both identified him, and went up and touched him—I told him the charge; he said "I never saw the boys before; I know nothing whatever about it"—he was charged at Marylebone Police-station with the two offences, and Mr. Foulger produced a bad sovereign—Miss Clelo marked it, and so did I.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The charge upon which he was arrested was not gone into by the Treasury or by the police, not because they found they had made a mistake, but because the coin was not found—there were seven men at the station, and the prisoner made the eighth—13
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good silver and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found on him on the 23rd.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have two bad sovereigns here—Mrs. Nagle gave me one and Miss Scarborough the other—she is barmaid at another public-house.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-25" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK PALMER</persName> </hi>. I am 12 years old, and live with my father and mother at 10, New Quebec Street—on 16th December I met the prisoner in Seymour Street; I did not know him before—he said "Will you go on an errand for me, and I will give you a penny?" I said "I will"—he told me to go to Mr. Foulger, in New Quebec Street, the Bricklayers' Arms, and get him a bottle of whisky—he gave me a coin in paper, and told me not to take it out in case I dropped it out—I took it out when I got to the Bricklayers' Arms, laid it on the counter, and asked the barmaid for a bottle of whisky; she looked at it and said that it was bad—Mr. Foulger gave me the whisky, and told me to go on up the street, as the prisoner said he would wait at the corner of Quebec Street, and he would follow me; the potman went out also—I could not see the prisoner; he was about 12 yards off when I left him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This was about 3 p.m.—the man was about a minute speaking to me—Hughes and I told each other what we went for—he did not tell me whether the man was dark or fair, only that he sent him for the same thing—Hughes went in first, and when he came out I went in directly—I did not speak to him when he came out.</p>
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<p>whisky, and put down a sovereign; I found it was light, and showed it to Mr. Foulger—it was marked in my pretence; this is it—it was lying on the counter when I saw it, with a piece of paper by the side of it—I asked who sent him; he said a man waiting at the corner of the street—Mr. Foulger and the boy and the potman went out.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-27" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint—these coins are bad, and the gilding is worn off.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The prisoner was taken in consequence of the circulation of his description which I got from Hughes; the other case was not known then—he was arrested on another charge, and in consequence of his description the boys were sent for before he was dis
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAWFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-30" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SMALL</persName> </hi>. I am employed to keep a coffee stall outside the Temple Arms Coffee Tavern, Earl Street, Soho—a few days before Christmas, about 3 o'clock on Monday morning, I served the prisoner with some coffee and bread-and-butter value 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; he gave me a shilling—I tried it in a tester, and found it was bad; it was soft, and bent easily—I said "What do you mean by this?"—he fumbled in his pockets, and said "I know I have another shilling somewhere"—I gave him in charge with the shilling—it was five or six minutes before a policeman came up—I did not hold the prisoner, as I was inside my stall—he said that he had done wrong, and must stand the consequences.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He could not find another shilling, but it was found when he got to Bow Street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-31" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-31" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-31" type="surname" value="BENNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-31" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BENNETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 383). I was on duty at 3 a.m., near Small's stall—he sent a man to me; I went there, and he said "This man has passed a bad shilling"—the prisoner said "I know I have done wrong, and I shall have to be locked up; I have got another shilling about me somewhere"—I searched him at the stall, and found a good shilling in his waistcoat-pocket at once, easily—I took him to the station—he refused his address; I searched him there, and found he was marked, with a "D."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> That means deserter from the Army—he did not say that Small would not give him back his shilling—he heard Small say that be should give him in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When I found the good shilling Small had gone to get somebody to take charge of his stall—I took him to the station before Small came back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-32" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-32" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-32" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-32" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This shilling is bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-155-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>156.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY RANSOM</hi> (24)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAWFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOHEGHAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-34" type="surname" value="BRUCE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-34" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BRUCE</persName> </hi>. I keep the Wellington public-house, Goswell Road—on Saturday, December 11, about 11.30, the prisoner came in, and Chamberlain brought me this coin—I examined it, and found it was a lion shilling gilt—I said to the prisoner "Do you know what this is?"—he said "Yes, it is a sovereign, I have taken it in my wages"—the drink came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I sent for a constable, and then saw 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on the counter—a constable came, and said "Will you charge him.?"—I said "If he</p>
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<p>will give me his correct name and address, and a true statement as to how he became possessed of it, I will let the matter drop"—he then gave his correct address, and said that he took the coin and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for his wages at Mr. Naman's, Castle Street, Finsbury—I sent a constable there, and in consequence of his inquiries I gave him in custody with the coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> On the Sunday morning a person came in and showed me a glass case out of which, he said, this coin had been dropped while he was running down some street—a boy, who I cannot swear to, was with the prisoner when he came in—I do not know whether that was Dunn—here is a mark on the milling of the coin, where a loop has been filed off—after the prisoner was given in charge he said that he got the coin from James Dunn.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-35" type="surname" value="CHAMBERLAIN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-35" type="given" value="HARRY"/>HARRY CHAMBERLAIN</persName> </hi>. I am barman to Mr. Bruce—on Saturday night, 11th December, the prisoner came in with a child; I cannot say whether it was Dunn—they both came up to the bar, and the prisoner asked for a pint of half-and-half, which came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and put down the coin with the head up, saying "A sovereign"—I noticed that it was light, but I did not doubt it till I weighed it; I then took it to Mr. Bruce, who spoke to the prisoner—I do not know what became of the lad—I saw 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on the counter; Mr. Bruce took it up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I said at the police-court "The prisoner or his friend put down 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the beer"—I saw Mr. Bruce pick it up—I know the boy now as James Dunn—I do not remember the prisoner saying when he was charged "James Dunn gave me that sovereign"—I went to the other end of the bar to Mr. Bruce, and the prisoner was there when I came back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-36" type="surname" value="WILKIE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-36" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WILKIE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 255). I was called to Mr. Bruce's, and found the prisoner and several persons in front of the bar—I did not observe that any one was in his company—Mr. Bruce produced this coin, and said "This man has tried to pass this shilling for a sovereign"—I asked if he wished to charge him—he said" I do not; if he will give me his correct address, and where he got the coin, I will not charge him"—the prisoner said that Mr. Naman gave him the sovereign and shilling for his week's wages, and that he lived at 31, Seward Street, Goswell Road—I left him in custody, and went to Mr. Naman's; I then went to the station, and found the prisoner detained there—I said "I have been to Mr. Naman's, and you are not known there"—he said "If I must tell you the truth, me and a friend of mine have been to the Variety, and on the way home my friend said to me * If you will wait here a little while I will go home and get some money, and then we will go and have something to drink.' I stood there some time, my friend came back, and said 'They have given me a sovereign instead of a shilling, but I do not think it is good, do you?' I took it, and tried it on the ground, and said, 'I think it is good enough j' my friend said, 'You will go into the Ivy public-house, and change it.' I said, 'I won't go in there, I am known there,' and we then went to the Wellington public-house."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner was in the House of Detention the whole time until the charge against him had been finished—the prisoner's mother and I went and saw James Dunn, who told me his little sister had picked up this coin in Little Sutton Street, and he had taken it from her, and that they had one witness who rang it on the wound and said that it was good—I have been two years in the force—I put down the</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100007"/>
<p>prisoner's statement there and then as well as I could—I have not got it here; it is at home in my duty-book; no, I have it here; this is it (
<hi rend="italic">Pro
<lb/>ducing a sheet of paper</hi>)—I forgot that I had it here—I took a copy of the paper and then tore it up, as I thought it would not be wanted then—I have never done so before—the charge was entered in the charge-sheet from my duty-book—I have torn up my duty-book in other cases—I was a labourer before I went into the police—I have received no promotion—this was written on a separate sheet of paper, not in a book, and the page torn out—this is my duty-book. (
<hi rend="italic">A leather case of letters</hi>)—it is a memoran
<lb/>dum book—the entry was made on a piece of paper; it is not a book at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> This is a common pocket-book—I make my notes on paper, and when the charge is entered I tear it up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-37" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-37" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-37" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of coin to H. M.'s Hint—this coin is a good shilling of George IV. gilded—it has had a ring on it where it has been attached to a chain—the head side is exactly like a sovereign, and it would deceive anybody who did not try the weight—it is a current coin of the realm, but it ceases to be so when it is gilt.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It rings well—it is rather paler than an ordinary sovereign—it has the ring of a good shilling, but not of a good sovereign.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "When we came out of the Variety we called at the Grapes, and James Dunn said he would go and borrow a shilling from his mother; he came back with a sovereign, and asked me if I thought it was a good one. I said 'Yes,' I wanted him to go into the Ivy and the Grapes, but he would not, and we went to the Wellington. He gave me this sovereign, and told me to call for the drink. The reason I told Mr. Bruce I got it at work was because I did not want to get into a
<hi rend="italic">row.</hi> Had I known what it was I would not have gone into the public-house with him."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-156-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 11
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>157.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAWFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HEWICK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-39" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-39" type="surname" value="HARRISON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-39" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE HARRISON</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the White Horse, Islington Cattle Market—on 17th December, about 3.30, I served the prisoner with threepenny worth of brandy; he put down this coin—I said "What do you call this?"—he said "A sovereign; I want my change"—I passed it to Mr. Hodges, who said "What do you call this?"—he said "A sovereign; I want my change"—I heard him say that he got it in part payment for a horse.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He made no attempt to leave—he was perfectly sober—when he left he went quickly.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He did not wait for his change.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-40" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-40" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS HODGES</persName> </hi>. I keep the White Horse; the last witness called my attention to this coin, and I said to the prisoner "What do you call this?"—he said "A sovereign"—I said "Where did you get it from?"—he said "Out of the market buying a horse"—I asked if had any more of</p>
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<p>these coins—lie said "No"—I said in his hearing to my son, "Get an officer"—he then tried to get out, but could not do so quickly, as the bar was crowded—I went out the back way and met him in the road trying to get into the market as fast as he could, but I stopped him before he got into the crowd—I met my son with an officer, and gave the prisoner in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> During the whole conversation he steadfastly main
<lb/>tained that it was a sovereign, and that he expected his change—I did not hear him say that he should be able to show where he got it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He was making for the more crowded part; he did not wait for his change.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-41" type="surname" value="BROWSON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-41" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROWSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 424
<hi rend="italic">G</hi>). I was fetched, and met Mr. Hodges, who pointed out the prisoner, who was going as fast as he could towards the inner market, though not exactly running—there was a crowd in that direction—I stopped him, and Mr. Hodges charged him. I told him the charge, and that what he said would be used in evidence against him—he said "I took it in part payment for a horse"—I asked him if he had any more coins on him—he said "No"—I took him to the station, searched him, and found another coin, corresponding with the one uttered, in a purse in his trousers pocket; also four good florins and twopence-halfpenny—I also found this deposit note on the City Bank—he said before the Magistrate that he had the coin given to him in part payment for a horse which was not his, but which he had brought for sale—I asked him to whom he had sold it, and he said that he should not tell.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was going as fast as he could, but he could not go very fast because of the crowd—he was between a walk and a run—he did not say to me that he would point out the man from whom he took the coin, nor did he point in the direction where he had received it, or say when it was—he made no attempt to get away—the public-house is about twenty yards from the inner market.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-42" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are two Hanover medals, which are bought about four for a penny as whist markers—the head side and the edge resemble a sovereign.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I took the money of a man in the market for the two ponies. I should know the man if I were to see him in the market."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-43" type="surname" value="BENTLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-43" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BENTLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a contractor, of 16, Hunt Street, Mile End New Town—I have known the prisoner over five years—on 17th December I let him have a pony for 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I had had several transac
<lb/>tions with him before—this was not a very good pony; it was fit for a hobby—I had bought one of him for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the Saturday before—he is a house decorator I believe; he is very honest and just, but one of the dullest of men.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-157-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<p>158.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM CLARKE</hi> (28)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAWFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-45" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-45" type="surname" value="BARROW"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-45" type="given" value="KATE"/>KATE BARROW</persName> </hi>. My husband is a tobacconist, of 45, Paddington Street—on 13th December, about 9 p.m., I served the prisoner with a pennyworth of tobacco—he put down a sixpence and kept his finger over it—I took it up and put it in the till; it felt rather smooth, but I gave</p>
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<p>him the change—there was only one other sixpence in the till, a bright new one, and ten shillings—he left, and Mr. Burford came in directly—in consequence of what he said I went to the till and found a bad six
<lb/>pence, the one I had from the prisoner—I went out and found him coming from a public-house at' the bottom of the street, five or ten minutes afterwards, and gave him in charge—he said "I have not been near the shop; you have made a mistake"—the inspector asked him at the station if he had passed a sixpence—he said "No" at first—the inspector asked him where he took it—he said that he did not know, but he took it for a good one—he said that he did not know where he took it, but he tried to pass it at Burford the chemist's.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> the Prisoner. I know the sixpence by it being a little bent—this is it—it is bent more now; it had not these cuts then, they were made at the station—I saw you ten minutes afterwards, I had to go and put my shawl on—Mr. Burford had followed you first.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-46" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-46" type="surname" value="BURFORD"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-46" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK BURFORD</persName> </hi>. My father is a tobacconist, of 12, Dorset Street, Marylebone—on 13th December I was standing outside the counter when my mother served the prisoner—he put down a sixpence; he did not hand it to her—she put it in a trier and slightly bent it, told him it was bad, and gave it back to him—he turned it over two or three times in his fingers and went away without saying a word—he did not take the tobacco—I went to the door; he went to the left, towards Paddington Street—I followed him; I lost sight of him for a moment, because I turned in another direction, but I turned and caught him, and stood on one side while he went into Mrs. Barrow's shop—when he came out I went in and spoke to her; she looked in the till and showed me a bad sixpence—I overtook the prisoner again, and Mrs. Barrow came up and gave him in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-47" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-47" type="surname" value="BURFORD"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-47" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY BURFORD</persName> </hi>. My husband is a tobacconist, of 12, Dorset Street—I remember serving the prisoner, and his handing me a sixpence—I put it in the trier, slightly bent it, and gave it back to him, saying "It is not a good one"—he took it and walked out without saying a word—I believe this to be it by the bend I made in it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-48" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-48" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-48" type="surname" value="RAY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-48" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY RAY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman P</hi> 89). Mrs. Barrow gave the prisoner into my charge—he said "I have not been near the shop"—I searched him at the station and found 3 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and a roll of tobacco.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did. not take hold of you till you got to the station door—you went quietly.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-49" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-49" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-49" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-49" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This sixpence is bad; it is made of brass and silvered, and the impression on one side is obliterated.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I changed a shilling, the sixpence must have been given to me when I changed it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> Do you think I would go into a second shop close by when the coin had been refused at the first? No, I should have thrown it away. I do not know where I got it, but no doubt it was given to me in a public-house in change for a shilling; any man is liable to have a bad coin given him. The gentleman followed me, and only 3 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found in my pocket, which does not answer for 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. chance.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-158-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-158-18810110 t18810110-158-punishment-3"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>159.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES PHARAOH</hi> (23)</persName>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-159-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-159-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to
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<interp inst="t18810110-159-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="sexual"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-159-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="bigamy"/>feloniously marrying
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-51" type="given" value="EMILY"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-159-offence-1 t18810110-name-51"/>Emily Eldret</persName>, his wife being alive. </rs>
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutrix.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-159-18810110 t18810110-159-punishment-4"/>Six Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>160.
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<interp inst="def1-160-18810110" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="def1-160-18810110" type="surname" value="STRINGER"/>
<interp inst="def1-160-18810110" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">STEPHEN STRINGER</hi> (29)</persName>
<rs id="t18810110-160-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-160-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-160-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Feloniously forging and uttering an order for the payment of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. J. P. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-53" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-53" type="surname" value="BENNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-53" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BENNETT</persName> </hi>. I keep the Grapes, Farringdon Street—I know the prisoner by sight as a commercial traveller—he came in on 11th December, after 4 o'clock, presented this cheque, and said "Will you change this for Mr. Green"—I said "Do you work for Mr. Green?"—he said "I am Mr. Green's foreman"—I said "Will you back it?"—he said "It is backed," here is "H. J. Skinner" on it, and it is payable to him—I did not know the prisoner's name—the whole cheque is in writing—I gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it, knowing Mr. Green as a customer—this was on Saturday—I paid it into my bank on the Monday, the City Bank, Ludgate Hill, and it was returned the same day marked "No account"—I communicated with Mr. Green, and, in consequence of what he said, with the police—I did not see the prisoner again till he was in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not communicate with the police till five days after my interview with Mr. Green; I had more important business to attend to, and I was in hopes of seeing the prisoner, but when I found out that he had left Mr. Green's service I did not expect him to come—I have ascertained from parties who have had cheques of him that he bears an extraordinarily bad character.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have seen several bad cheques which he has passed, and which the officer has.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-54" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-54" type="surname" value="GREEN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-54" type="given" value="JOHN JAMES"/>JOHN JAMES GREEN</persName> </hi>. I am a carrier, of Fleet Lane—the prisoner was in my employ about a month prior to December 11th—I gave him no instructions on that or any other day about cashing this piece of paper; I know nothing about it—he was not under notice to leave, and I expected him to come on the Monday; but he did not, and I never saw him till he was in custody—Mr. Bennett showed me this cheque on the Monday, it is the prisoner's writing and the endorsement also.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have seen him write and have some of his writing in the office—I believe this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is his writing; it is not exactly the same writing as the cheque and the endorsement, but it is written by the same man—he was in my service about a month—he gave me a reference to the London, Chatham, and Dover Railway Company; I could not meet with the manager, but I took him on approbation—he had lived there some years before, but he led me to suppose that it was recently—I employed him as foreman, and saw his writing every day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-55" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-55" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-55" type="surname" value="MARLEE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-55" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY MARLEE</persName> </hi>. I am a cashier at the Ludgate branch of the City Bank—this cheque has nothing to do with us, but if a customer had drawn it and it was his signature we should have paid it—I do not know Mr. Collingwood—it was paid in, and we returned it marked "No account."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-56" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-56" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-56" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-56" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). On 18th December I saw the prisoner at a house in Westminster, and said "I have come to see you respecting a cheque which Mr. Bennett says he cashed for you"—he said "I got it from Mr. Collingwood, of St. Benets Place, Bishopsgate Street; I had a betting transaction with him, and he gave it to me on Saturday morning"—I took him to the station, and he was charged with obtaining 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. by false pretences—he said "I received the cheque from Mr. Collingwood on Friday morning"—I went to St. Benets Place, Bishopsgate, but did not find any name of Collingwood there.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It is a large place, with two or three sets of offices on each floor—I also inquired for the clerks, bat not at each place—the prisoner gave me to understand that Mr. Collingwood was in business there—St. Benets Place is in Gracechurch Street, but it is not far from Bishopsgate Street—I did not inquire of every person there—the prisoner said that it was a betting transaction—he said Saturday morning when I arrested him, but before that he said Friday morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-57" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-57" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-57" type="surname" value="GREEK"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-57" type="given" value="JOHN JAMES"/>JOHN JAMES GREEK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi>). From my know
<lb/>ledge of the prisoner's writing I should say that this is his (
<hi rend="italic">A piece of the document previously produced</hi>), but I cannot be very positive.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-160-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-160-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18810110-160-punishment-5" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-160-punishment-5" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-160-18810110 t18810110-160-punishment-5"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>161.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM CASEY</hi> (20)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18810110-161-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-161-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Robbery with violence, with others, on
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-59" type="surname" value="HOUSART"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-59" type="given" value="RICHARD VINCLES"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-161-offence-1 t18810110-name-59"/>Richard Vincles Housart</persName>, and stealing a bag, a pocket-book, and 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TORR</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THORNE COLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-60" type="surname" value="HOUSART"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-60" type="given" value="RICHARD VINKELES"/>RICHARD VINKELES HOUSART</persName> </hi>. I live at 72, Linfield Row, Bow, and am in the employ of a gentleman, a large owner of house property; I manage his business—an 29th November I was collecting rents for him—about 5 o'clock that afternoon I was in Bell Street, Cable Street, St. George's-in-the-East, collecting rents, where he has some houses—I put my silver in a bag, which was slung over my shoulders, the gold I put in my pocket—there is a public-house there that has been shut up for some time, and which is rather more obscure than the rest of the street, and all at once I found a man standing by the side of me, putting his hand on my right arm, and tripping me up; he put his foot behind one of my feet, and tripped me up; meanwhile two other men held me behind—I saw them run away—I did not see them at the time they were by me, but I saw them afterwards when I was on the ground—as I fell down I clutched my bag; I allowed them to throw me down instead of defending myself—they never spoke a word—they threw me down, and when I was down I called out "Murder! Police!" and all that; nobody heard me, or chose to hear me, and the three of them unclasped my hands, and took my bag away—they first of all wrenched off my strap, and ran away with my bag—I got up, and ran behind them crying "Murder! Police! Thieves!" and ran up to the top of the street following them—a number of persons were congregated there, and asked me what was the matter—I did not say anything to them, but I rushed through them to the police-station, and made the charge—I could not see the thieves; they had the start of me—they used no further violence than was necessary to throw me down and get the money; they hurt my shoulder a bit, that was from the fall—I was not particularly in bodily fear; I took things as they came; I knew I should lose the money—that was the only fear I had—there was 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver in the bag—this is the bag; it was not torn in this way when I was wearing it—the prisoner is the only man I can recognise—I pointed him out 13 days afterwards at the station from among other men—there was another man who I thought was one of the other two, but I did not swear to any one but the prisoner, I thought he was a little older than the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I think Detective Foster came for me to go to the station to identify the persons—I did not go with him; I went afterwards—I</p>
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<p>was in a room upstairs for some time; I was then taken down, and saw a dozen or 20 persons standing there—I was asked if I could recognise the people that robbed me—I was there about 10 minutes—I went round once, and coming back I picked the prisoner out, and said "That is the man"—they then asked me whether there was anybody else—I looked round, and said "That man looks something like one of them, but I won't be certain of him."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>, No one pointed out or directed my attention to any particular person—to the best of my belief the prisoner is the man who stood by my side; his features are impressed on my memory, but my visual organs may be deceived, although I don't think so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-61" type="surname" value="ELSTON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-61" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ELSTON</persName> </hi>. I am a coal-porter, and live at 3, Brigg's Place, Cable Street, St. George's-in-the-East—on 29th November, between 5 and 6 o'clock, I found this bag on the wharf where I work, Charrington's Coal Wharf, Chapman Street, about five minutes' walk from Bell Street; it was in the same condition it is now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-62" type="surname" value="FOSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-62" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE FOSTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant H</hi>). On the evening of 29th November I was at the Leman Street Station when the prisoner came to make a charge to the inspector—on 8th December I received this bag from Elston—on 12th I apprehended the prisoner from information I received—I had received a description of him from the prosecutor—I told the prisoner he would be charged with being concerned with two others in stealing a bag and a certain amount of money from a rent collector in Cable Street last Monday week—he said "What time was it, sir?"—Sergeant Newman, who was with me, said it was 5 o'clock in the afternoon—he said "I can prove I was at work at that time"—I took him to Leman Street Station; he was placed among several others—Inspector Holder, who was on duty there, superintended the identity; the prosecutor was called in, and he picked out the prisoner, who was the second man, and said "That is the one"—he was then asked if he could identify any other person—he looked, and said he thought he was rather too old; that was another person, not the prisoner—he pointed out the prisoner at once; he was the second man; he walked along the row, and said "That is the man"—I stood back; I had nothing to do with the matter—no assistance or hint was given him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This was not in a room j it was in the cell passage—I stood at the far end, and so did the inspector, Mr. Holder—I believe there was no other officer there—I did not go to the prosecutor's house to communicate with him; I believe Girling did.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-63" type="surname" value="HOUSART"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-63" type="given" value="RICHARD VINKELES"/>RICHARD VINKELES HOUSART</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). What I said about the man looking too old I intended to apply to the prisoner.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-161-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>162.
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<interp inst="t18810110-162-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to
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<interp inst="t18810110-162-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="sexual"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-162-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="bigamy"/>feloniously marry
<lb/>ing
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-162-offence-1 t18810110-name-65"/>Sarah Barnes</persName>, his wife being then living.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18810110-162-punishment-6" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-162-punishment-6" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-162-punishment-6" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-162-18810110 t18810110-162-punishment-6"/>Six Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, Jan.</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th, and Tuesday, Jan.</hi> 11
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<p>163.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES GRAYSON</hi> (60)</persName> was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PURCELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">In this case, the Court being of opinion there was no satisfactory case for the Jury, they found a verdict of</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-163-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="directed"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>164.
<persName id="def1-164-18810110" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-164-18810110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-164-18810110" type="age" value="25"/>
<interp inst="def1-164-18810110" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="def1-164-18810110" type="given" value="JOHN TAYLOR"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN TAYLOR SMITH</hi> (25)</persName>
<rs id="t18810110-164-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-164-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-164-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering a counter
<lb/>feit shilling, having another in his possession.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAWFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOHEGHAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-68" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-68" type="surname" value="OASET"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-68" type="given" value="AKNIE"/>AKNIE OASET</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Phoenix public-house, at the corner of Worship Street, of which Mr. Hill is the manager—on 29th December, about 12.15 in the day, the prisoner came in and asked for a quartern of rum; it came to 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a shilling in payment; I bent it and found it was bad—I asked him where he got it; he said "Somewhere in London"—I asked if he had any more in his pocket; he said "Yes, another one"—I then called Mr. Hill—he asked him to show him the one he had in his pocket; he showed it—Mr. Hill sent for a constable, and he had the shilling that I tested—the prisoner paid for the rum with 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When I asked the prisoner if he had another bad shilling about him he at once said "Yes"—he did not tell me he had had it for six months—I don't remember saying so at the police-court; there was no person in company with the prisoner—he remained there about five minutes before the constable came—what I said to him was "Have you any more like this?"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-69" type="surname" value="HILL"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-69" type="given" value="HENRY GEORGE"/>HENRY GEORGE HILL</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Phoenix public-house—I was in front of the bar—I did not see the prisoner till Miss Casey spoke to me and gave me the shilling which he had passed—I told him I understood he had more in his pocket, and called on him to produce them—he put his hand in his pocket and produced another bad shilling—I asked if he knew they were bad; he said yes, he did—the two shillings were lying on the counter—I said "Bid you know this money was bad? "he said "Yes, I did"—he took it from his pocket—I told him he ought to be locked up; he said I could lock him up if I liked; he was very impertinent over it—I sent for a constable, who searched him—I don't think anything was found on him but three halfpence; he had previously paid for the rum—I gave the two coins to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I said he must be searched—he did not appear re
<lb/>luctant to be searched; he was not indignant—he said he was a respect
<lb/>able man; I have found out that he is so from the evidence at the police-court only—at the time he said the money was bad it was lying on the counter—one of the pieces had been bent up—he remained at the bar when I sent for a constable; I sent the barman over to prevent his going away—I would not swear whether he took the shilling from his purse or from his pocket.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-70" type="surname" value="ASHBURN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-70" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ASHBURN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant G</hi> 2). I was called by Mr. Hills, who said the prisoner had been tendering some bad money—these two shillings lay on the bar, with three halfpence in coppers—the prisoner had asked for a glass of ale, and they refused to serve him—I said "Have you any more? do you know these are bad?"—he said "Yes, I took it in London; I knew it was bad"—I found on him a purse, a chain, and a bottle of medicine; there was nothing in the purse—I took him to the station—when the charge was read over to him he said "I knew the first one was bad, but not the other."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have been in the police over 10 years—I made a note at the time of the conversation—I produce it; it is part in pencil and part in ink; the ink was written over the pencil—his words were</p>
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<p>"I knew it was bad"—I have made inquiries about him, and find he has borne a respectable character.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-71" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-71" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of Coin to the Mint—these two coins are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-72" type="surname" value="BEYON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-72" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BEYON</persName> </hi>. I live at Stratford—I am in the employ of the Great Eastern Railway Company—the prisoner was in the service of Mr. Turner, the head of the store department there—I have been intimate with the prisoner for some time; he came to me one afternoon in July last, and said in a joking way "I have been nearly locked up"—I said "How was that? "he said for passing a bad shilling"—I said "Where did you get it?" he said "Do you remember my changing a sovereign yesterday afternoon at the Commercial Hotel?" I said "Yes"—he said "One of the shillings was bad; I went into a house for a glass of beer, and when I tendered it the girl said it was bad"—I advised him to take it back to the place where he got it changed; he said he would not do that, he would rather keep it as a curiosity—I have frequently seen the shilling since; he kept it in his purse among some old coins—I gave evidence at the police-court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-164-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>165.
<persName id="def1-165-18810110" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-165-18810110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-165-18810110" type="age" value="42"/>
<interp inst="def1-165-18810110" type="surname" value="KEELE"/>
<interp inst="def1-165-18810110" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES KEELE</hi> (42)</persName>
<rs id="t18810110-165-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-165-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-165-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="perjury"/>, Wilful and corrupt perjury.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSES. WARNER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">FILLAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-74" type="surname" value="CHABOT"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-74" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CHABOT</persName> </hi>. I have made handwriting my study for many years—I was at the Bloomsbury County Court when the case of Hunt
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Keele was tried before Mr. Francis Bacon; I heard the defendant sworn and examined and cross-examined—this letter and envelope were put into his hand, and he was asked whether he had written them; he said he had—I had previously seen all these post-cards—he was asked whether he had written them; he denied over and over again having written any of them—he was cautioned, and then the question was put to him again—he was then asked to write something from dictation—at first he said he could not write, or did not want to write, but eventually he did write—he took a long time about it—I saw him write this—I have compared that and the letter and envelope with the post-cards and Anonymous letters, and I express the same opinion now that I expressed in Court, that they are all in the same handwriting—I have not the slightest doubt about it. (
<hi rend="italic">A number of photographs of the documents were handed to the Jury, and the witness explained the various similarities and peculiarities in the hand
<lb/>writing upon which he founded his judgment, and in cross-examination he con
<lb/>ceded that there were many differences in the writing, which he said were such as would occur in the ordinary handwriting of any person.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-75" type="surname" value="STEELE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-75" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES STEELE</persName> </hi>. I am a retired sergeant major, on pension—I am employed at Horse Shoe Hotel, in Tottenham Court Road—I have been an industrial school officer—I have known the defendant for many years; I can't say that I have seen him write; I may have done so some years ago, but I can't say that I have—I am here on subpoena; I did not wish to come—the defendant is a very old friend of mine—I should not know his handwriting if I saw it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known him about 20 years—he has always borne a respectable character.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> At present he keeps a public-house in Little Queen</p>
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<p>Street, Holborn; he does nothing else for a living that I know of—I don't know that betting goes on there; I have only been in the house three or four times—I have never received letters from him—whether he bets with people and lends them money I don't know.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-76" type="surname" value="WHITESIDE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-76" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WHITESIDE</persName> </hi>. I am a law stationer, of 53, Chancery Lane—I have known the defendant between four and five years; I know the house he keeps, and have known him as a customer—I have never seen him write; or received letters from him—I have seen one letter of his produced in evidence, that is all—I am here on subpoena.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-77" type="surname" value="HUNT"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-77" type="given" value="EDWIN ALBERT"/>EDWIN ALBERT HUNT</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor's clerk—the name of my employer is Henry Lucas Turner, of 91, Queen Street, Cheapside, 273, Amhurst Road, Stoke Newington, and 23, Charlotte Street, Bedford Square—I live at the last-named place—this letter, No. 1, is the defen
<lb/>dant's writing, and to the best of my belief the whole of these post-cards are his writing; I have examined them carefully; I am positive of it—I have received letters from him, and have seen him write on many occasions—I don't think I have had post-cards from him on business—I have not seen him write on post-cards, but I have seen writing on a post-card which he said was his—I produce a certified copy of the County Court plaint, the notice of judgment for the defendant, and the refusal of the application for a new trial; it was an action for libel—I have been on friendly terms with the defendant for many years, and was mixed up with him in sundry transactions.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I describe myself as a solicitor's clerk—Mr. Turner is my master—he does not pay me a salary—I pay the rent of the office at 23, Charlotte Street, Bedford Square—I also practise in the name of Mr. Cotton, with his permission, in a great many cases—there is a Turner and Co.—they live at 273, Amhurst Road, Stoke Newington—I said before the Magistrate that I did not know where Mr. Turner lived; I did not know his private address at that time—Cotton and Co. do not pay me any salary; I pay the rent of their office—he is a solicitor on the Bolls, and so is Mr. Turner—Mr. Turner has an office at 91, Queen Street, Cheapside; I presume he pays for that himself, I have no idea—I have not passed in any other name—I have signed my name as Albert on two or three occasions on bills of exchange; my name is Albert: Edwin Albert Hunt; I dropped the Hunt, and adopted the Albert—I did not issue a writ in Baddeley
<hi rend="italic">v.</hi> Kirby—I know something about it; there was no writ issued, it was a joke entirely, it was a piece of waste paper—I did not make or cause to be made an application for money on this document, that I positively swear—I wrote the document; it was well known to be a joke; it was in the name of Turner and Co.—I know a man named Wright; I did not accuse him of writing these post-cards, I swear that positively; I never said to him that I believed he wrote them; I owe him 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—before I was a solicitor's clerk I was an accountant; before that I was a butcher—I have signed the name of Cotton and Co. on cheques on several occasions; I had a perfect right to do so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I handed the writ to Kirby; he is a friend of mine; I have known him two or three years—Mr. Cotton is a solicitor; I was acting as his clerk; I am now acting as managing clerk to Mr. Turner; he pays me a commission—I had a connection as an accountant, and I have an opportunity of introducing certain business, and I give my services as far as they are required and as far as it is right to do so, and where I require the services of Mr. Turner he attends for me.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">This being the case for the prosecution, the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">expressed an opinion that the necessary, amount of proof was wanting—viz., the evidence of two witnesses; here the only evidence appeared to amount to a belief as to the handwriting, as against the positive oath of the defendant in denial at the County Court. After hearing</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>, who submitted that the positive belief expressed by the witnesses was sufficient for the con
<lb/>sideration of the Jury, the
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi> stated that he would reserve the point if it became necessary.</p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-165-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>166.
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<interp inst="def1-166-18810110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-166-18810110" type="age" value="28"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD HIPWELL</hi> (28)</persName> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="def2-166-18810110" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-166-18810110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-166-18810110" type="age" value="40"/>
<interp inst="def2-166-18810110" type="surname" value="HUME"/>
<interp inst="def2-166-18810110" type="given" value="EDWARD RAYNER"/>EDWARD RAYNER HUME</persName> </hi> (40),
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<interp inst="t18810110-166-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-166-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>Unlawfully soliciting and inciting
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-80" type="surname" value="MORRIS"/>
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<persName id="t18810110-name-81">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-81" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-81" type="surname" value="MORRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-81" type="given" value="JOHN"/>John Morris</persName> to assault and wound
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-82" type="surname" value="HORGAN"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-166-offence-1 t18810110-name-82"/>Timothy Horgan</persName>.
<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> varying the form of charge.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MAGUIRE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR HARDINGE S. GIFFARD</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MR. WADDY, Q.C</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-83" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-83" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-83" type="surname" value="PARKYN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-83" type="given" value="PETER SPURR"/>PETER SPURR PARKYN</persName> </hi>. I live at 28, Camberwell Grove, and am adver
<lb/>tisement clerk to Messrs. Dawson and Sons, advertising agents, of Gannon Street—in October last I saw Mr. Hipwell at our office; he requested the insertion of an advertisement which he brought; this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is a copy of it; he required its insertion in the
<hi rend="italic">Sporting Lift</hi> and
<hi rend="italic">Bell's Life</hi>; originally it was to be four times in the
<hi rend="italic">Sporting Lift</hi> and once in
<hi rend="italic">Bell's Life</hi>, afterwards he cancelled two of them—the inser
<lb/>tions commenced on 30th October; there were four insertions; it appeared twice in the
<hi rend="italic">Sporting Life.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-84" type="surname" value="LAKE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-84" type="given" value="JOHN WALTER"/>JOHN WALTER LAKE</persName> </hi>. I am the publisher of the
<hi rend="italic">Sporting Life</hi>—on 30th October a copy of this advertisement was inserted; I got it from Messrs. Dawson, of Cannon Street. (
<hi rend="italic">This was an advertisement for a heavy-weight boxer, terms liberal. Apply by Utter only to 0. P. Q., care of TV. Dawson and Sons</hi>, 121,
<hi rend="italic">Cannon Street.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-85" type="surname" value="MORRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-85" type="given" value="CONSTANTINE"/>CONSTANTINE MORRIS</persName> </hi>. I live at 39, Emsworth Street, Barking Road—I am a plasterer by trade—up to the end of October I was living at Sunderland—I have practised boxing; I am a heavy weight, which is over 13 stone—I saw this advertisement for a heavy-weight boxer in the
<hi rend="italic">Sporting Life</hi>; I cut it out, and sent a letter in answer to it; I got this letter (
<hi rend="italic">marked A</hi>) in reply; I pasted it at the back of the advertisement.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-86" type="surname" value="HORGAN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-86" type="given" value="TIMOTHY"/>TIMOTHY HORGAN</persName> </hi>. I know Mr. Hipwell's handwriting; this letter is his writing—these other letters, marked B, C, D, E, F, are also his writing; I have some doubts about D; I have no doubt about the others—I would rather not swear to the writing on this card, but I have no doubt it is Mr. Hipwell's.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR HARDINGE GIFFARD</hi>. I believe this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) also to be Mr. Hipwell's writing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-87" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-87" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-87" type="surname" value="MORRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-87" type="given" value="CONSTANTINE"/>CONSTANTINE MORRIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Continued</hi>). This (A) is the first letter I received (
<hi rend="italic">This stated that a heavy weight was wanted for a friend who had been continually annoyed by a blackguard of a fellow, and for a good considera
<lb/>tion to let him have what he wanted</hi>)—on the receipt of that letter I wrote again—my first letter was addressed to Dawson and Sons, 121, Cannon Street—by this letter I was directed to write to Deacon's, 154, Leaden-hall Street, and I wrote to that address, but got no reply—I then came up to London by boat on Monday, 22nd November—I then wrote again to Dawson's on the Tuesday night, and on Wednesday evening I received this letter (B)—I wrote again, and received this reply, signed O. P. Q.</p>
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<p>(0), addressed to me at my mother's, 39, Emsworth Street, requesting me to be at the Monument next morning with a paper in my button-hole—up to that time I had not seen anything of O. P. Q.—I kept the appointment; I put the paper in my button-hole—I got to the Monument about 11 o'clock; Mr. Hipwell came and spoke to me—my brother stood at a distance, at the corner—I met him in London; he was living in London—when Mr. Hipwell came up to me he said "Are you Morris?"—I said "Yes, sir; are you Mr. O. P. Q.?"—he said "Yes, follow me"—I said "I am not alone; I have got a friend with me"—he said "Then let him follow; follow me to the Shades Hotel"—I went with him; he walked by the side of me—my brother came over while I was talking to Mr. Hipwell at the Monument, and they had some conversation together—Mr. Hipwell said something about not wanting two people in it, but he said "As you know so much about it, follow behind," which he did—Mr. Hipwell and I went into the Shades; my brother staved outside—when we got inside he asked for some liquor; I don't know what, I think it was rum that I had, and he ordered something for himself, and he asked for a private room—we were shown into a little room on the right-hand side as you go in—I said "I want to know something about this affair, sir"—he told me to sit down, and he said "A friend of mine has been assaulted by a dog of an Irishman, and I want you to follow this friend about, and at a given signal come forward with a life-preserver or a knuckle-duster, and disfigure his face well; come forward and hit this Irishman with big whiskers with a life-preserver or a knuckle-duster, and be sure you disfigure his face well"—I told him it was rather a hazardous task for One to do; I should like my brother with me—he said "I will see him outside"—I asked him for his card, and he gave me this card; it has printed on it "Edward Hipwell," and he wrote under it with a black-lead pencil "New Hibernia Wharf"—he said "If you will do this job well I will give you 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and pay your fare wherever you want to go; here is 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that will help you to defray your expenses, and I will continue giving this money every week to you till this job is done"—I said. "How am I to know your friend?"—he said "Follow me and I will show him to you; follow me over London Bridge, and I will go into Tooley Street and pass and repass before the person you see me speak to; that is my friend"—I said "Suppose I am locked up; how then?"—he said "I will send 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to your house; no fear of the police"—I drank up my liquor, Mr. Hipwell paid for it, and he said "Follow me and I will show you my friend"—when we got outside I saw my brother; Mr. Hipwell spoke to him and gave him some money; then he said "Follow me over London Bridge"—I did so; my brother walked just by the side of me—when we got to Fishmongers' Hall Mr. Hipwell stopped short on the right-hand side and said "Be sure and dis
<lb/>figure his face well, and I will give you 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and pay your fare wherever you want to go"—my brother was just at the side of me when he said that; he might have been a yard or so off me—Mr. Hipwell then said "Follow me at a distance and 1 will show you my friend—I did follow him at a distance; he went over the bridge and down the steps on the left-hand side of the bridge—I then saw him speaking to Mr. Hume by Fenning's Wharf—I passed and repassed before him two, three, or four times—I then started to walk away towards the Borough Market through the archway, and Mr. Hipwell beckoned to me to stop, and said "That is my friend I want you to watch about; we must arrange that the affair</p>
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<p>will take place somewhere about here"—that meant underneath the arch—this was between 11 and 12 in the morning—there was no gas under the arch to my knowledge—I said "All right," and went away—he said "Come down to
<lb/>morrow morning; I want you here about from 10 to 4 every day till this affair happens"—this was on 36th November, on a Friday—I had not been in London a week then; I came up on the Monday in that week—nothing further took place between Hipwell and me on this occasion; I left my brother standing on the bridge; he did not come down into the street; I went away home; at least I went for a walk all about London that day; I reached home that night—next morning, Saturday, I came down about 10 o'clock; I saw both the defendants in Tooley Street, Mr. Hume especially; I walked about there; I saw a lot of gentlemen walking about—I went home that day about 3 o'clock; I stopped at home on Sunday; I came down again on Monday morning at 10 and stopped there till about 4 in the afternoon; I came down on Tuesday at 10, and about 2 that day I saw a young man standing by the side of Mr. Hume; he came over and gave me a half-crown and told me to be on the alert—I received this letter on the Thursday night after the half-crown—I did not come down on the Wednesday or Thursday (
<hi rend="italic">The. letter stated</hi>: "I have not seen you for a day or two; you had better be here to
<lb/>morrow, as it is n, likely day"—upon that I wrote this letter, and received this (D) in answer (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated December 3rd, and requested the witness to be at the Monument at</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">next morning</hi>)—I kept that ap
<lb/>pointment, and went there with my brother; he stood at the opposite corner—in a few minutes I saw Mr. Hipwell, and a minute or two after Mr. Hume; Mr. Hipwell beckoned over to me; I went over to him; he said "That is my friend; he wishes to speak to you"—I said "Well, sir, what is it?"—he said "Do you know your business well?"—I said "Yes"—he said "Well, I want you to be on the look-out," or "on the alert, and watch me about; I have been assaulted by an Irish fellow with big whiskers," and he wanted me to watch him about, and to come forward and give him a good thrashing—I said "All right," and he turned round to Mr. Hipwell and said "Give him what he wants"—Mr. Hipwell said "Follow me"—Mr. Hume went away to London Bridge, and I followed Mr. Hipwell to the corner of Pudding Lane, Eastcheap—my brother joined me at the top of Fish Street Hill, and at the corner Mr. Hipwell gave me 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and he gave my brother money again that day—he then said "Follow down in about half an hour"—we went down Tooley Street, where I had been before—there was some conversation with my brother which I did not hear; I moved away when I got my 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and was walking about Tooley Street till about 2, when Policeman M 260 came up to me and asked what I was doing; I made a statement to him—I had written to Mr. Hipwell and told him that the police were watch
<lb/>ing me, and that I could not come down any more, and I received this letter of 6th December, I showed the policeman Mr. Hipwell's card, and said I was in Mr. Hipwell's employ—I did not go down any more; I wrote to have au interview with Mr. Hipwell, but got no reply; I wrote again, and got no reply—I got some work after this—I gave Mr. Hipwell's letters to my brother—I got no more money than I have spoken of; I got 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and my brother got 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—my brother communicated with the police, and on 17th December I saw Lansdowne, and went with him to a solicitor's office in Bishopsgate; I there saw Mr. Horgan and a solicitor—I had never seen Mr. Hogan before to my knowledge—I made</p>
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<p>a statement to the solicitor, and afterwards attended at the Mansion House and swore to it—I appeared at the police-court on the summons being heard against the defendants.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. GIFFARD</hi>. I said before the Magistrate that I wrote to them to say that if they did not give me money to hush this affair up I would put the matter in the hands of the Criminal Investigation Department—that was what X meant when I talked about this letter—I got no answer to that—I sent my brother with the letters on the Tuesday or Wednesday to take to Scotland Yard—I did not gee any policeman before I saw Inspector Lansdowne, or any attorney or Mr. Horgan—I first saw Lansdowne on Friday morning, 17th December—altogether I was watching three days, Saturday! Monday, and Tuesday, in Tooley Street—when 1 walked through the arch I could see Mr. Hume's office—two policemen spoke to me on 4th December; no, police
<lb/>man spoke to me before that—I saw that man (
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Smith, Policeman Mr</hi> 2)—he spoke to me on 4th December about ten minutes before, 260 spoke to me, on that same morning—I did not tell him "I am here to look after Mr. Hume, of Hibernia Wharf;" I swear that—I told him that I was in Mr. Hume's employ—I told him afterwards I was looking after an old gentleman, and if he wanted to know anything about me to go to Mr. Hume or Mr. Hipwell, at Hibernia Wharf—my brother usually lives where I am residing, 39, Emsworth Street, Barking Road—he is a plasterer—he is not working at all now; he was at work a week on ten days ago, but not in November or December to my knowledge—he was working just before Christmas and since—I swear positively that the first time I saw Mr. Hipwell there was a conversation between my brother and him—this letter is, I believe, my writing; it is dated November 2, and I believe I wrote it on November 1 or 2—I received this other letter dated November 1, which has the advertisement on it; it is marked "A"—I see the dates thoroughly, and I tell you that the one with the advertisement on it is the one I received in answer to mine—I first made a statement about the direction of Mr. Hipwell to use a knuckle-duster to Mr. Guy, the lawyer, on Friday, 17th December, at his office in, Bishops
<lb/>gate Street Within, and it was first to him, with a view to these proceed
<lb/>ings, that I said anything about a direction to disfigure the case—Mr. Horgan, the solicitor, and my brother were present, and the detective, but he did not stop to hear all—I do not know whether the datective was present when I mentioned the knuckle-duster or the disfiguring—In
<lb/>spector Lansdown was the detective—my object in communicating with the police was public justice—I said at tie Mansion, House "If they paid my expenses I would not have said a word about the matter"—if had got my expenses I would have gone back to Sunderland where I came from, and would not have said anything about it, but I was left penny
<lb/>less, and I left work to come up for this—I was examined at the Mansion House before my brother was examined at all; he was not examined that day—I heard somebody say that they wanted corroborative evidence—I cannot swear now whether I said one word on my first examination about any conversation with my brother—I said to jour learned friend beside you "My brother had a conversation with Mr. Hipwell once when I was a few yards off, and I know of no other"—perhaps I did not mention about the conversation at the Monument with my brother; he did have a conversation with him once when I was a few yards off; that was, in</p>
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<p>East cheap; it was a mishap if I said that I knew of no other—I cannot exactly swear that it was true, because he spoke of him twice or three times in our dealings together—it was adjourned for a few days, and then my brother came and gave evidence of several conversations—I had not talked to him in the mean time, but I was puzzled by the gentleman cross-examining me—I do not think I had any conversation with my brother, only general talk—I believe I had a conversation with him be
<lb/>tween the adjournment and the time he was brought up, about it being necessary to corroborate my evidence—I have fought in the prize-ring; I have never been employed to maim a man or disfigure him, or to use knuckle-dusters to him—that would strike me as a very unmanly thing—I did not say anything to these people when they asked me to do so, but I told them it was a very hazardous task—my intention was to get as much money as I could—if I had seen Mr. Hume assaulted I should not have interfered to protect him: not in danger of my being locked up—I never intended to do anything at all for the money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. When I went to Mr. Guy my state
<lb/>ment was taken down, and I signed it, and my brother signed his—there had been no communication between us before that—we had a general talk over the affair going home, and I told him to mind what he had said himself, and to keep as near as he could to what was written down in the lawyer's office, and which he signed—up to that time nothing had been said about corroboration to my knowledge—I did not keep copies of my letters—this is the letter Sir Hardinge Giffard asked for; it was produced by Mr. Hume's Counsel at the Mansion House, and I was asked about it. (
<hi rend="italic">Marked H. Read</hi>: "Dec. 6, 1880. Respected Sir,—I received your note this evening, and in reply wish to state that I shall not be able to come till Thursday, as I have met with a slight accident, being thrown out of a trap, and I do not wish to be seen with my head cut.") That was written in answer to the last letter I received—I was getting out of a trap, and fell against a wall—my head had sticking-plaster on it—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is my letter, and the envelope; the one I sent to get the money—I had never written a letter threatening Hume or Hipwell—the date on the envelope is December 12; it was produced to me by the Counsel at the Mansion House. (
<hi rend="italic">Marked G. Read</hi>: "12th Dec, 1880. Mr. Hip
<lb/>well. Sir,—I wrote two letters, one to you, and one to Mr. Hume, and received no answer; the fact of the matter is, if you think I am going to be trifled with you think wrong. I think it a very ungentlemanly action to serve me like this. I have told you nothing but the truth. If you do not send me money by return of post to hush this matter up, I will make a public exposure, and place your letter in the hands of the Criminal Inves
<lb/>tigation Department, Scotland Yard. Now, Sir, one thing or other, money to hush this affair up by return of post, or the matter in the hands of the Criminal Investigation Department to
<lb/>morrow, &c, &c. Direct Constantine Morris, 13, Street, Clerkenwell.") I had nothing to live on at that time, and was living at my mother's—I received money from Hipwell on 4th December, but have had nothing since—it was my brother who went to the police, and I saw Mr. Lansdowne about three days after
<lb/>wards—the 7th was the first time I saw Mr. Horgan—I know John Matchell, a boxing booth proprietor—I am sure that I pasted the adver
<lb/>tisement on the side of the letter I got; I only got one letter in Sunder
<lb/>land from Mr. Hipwell, and I swear that that was the one I pasted the</p>
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<p>advertisement on—the only two letters of mine shown to me at the Mansion House were H and G—I wrote one to Hipwell in Sunderland, and one on Tuesday night, 23rd November—I received no reply next night, and wrote another on Thursday, the 25th, and I wrote several others, but I cannot swear how many—I wrote several in London.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-88" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-88" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MORRIS</persName> </hi>. I live at 49, Emsworth Street—I have been in London two years—the last witness is my brother; he came up to London last November, and slept at my mother's house; that is where I live—I was not at work then—on Friday, 26th November, I went with him to Fish Street Hill, Monument—a party walked by the Monument with a piece of white paper in his button hole; my brother spoke to him, and they had a conversation, and spoke to me—Mr. Hipwell said that he did not want a second party in the case, as it might excite suspicion, but as I knew so much about it I might follow him—I followed him to the Shades Hotel, Old Swan Pier—I remained outside, and my brother and Mr. Hipwell went inside, and remained there 10 minutes or a quarter of an hour—Mr. Hipwell gave me 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. outside the Shades Hotel, and said that I was to follow him and my brother—they went to the Fishmongers' Arms on this side of London Bridge, and had some conversation; I went up, and he said that he wanted the big Irishman with big whiskers to get a good hiding, and he should not mind a 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, and if there was a scuffle I was to get my brother away if possible, and he said "If he gets what we want, next time it comes on I snail not be hard upon 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—I never saw him again till 4th December—I was then at the bottom of Hart Street, facing the Monument again—Mr. Hume was with him, but I had no conversation with Hume—I had never seen him before; they were con
<lb/>versing with my brother—it was between 9 and 10 a.m.—Hume went towards Fish Street Hill, and I followed, and joined them—Mr. Hipwell spoke of a knuckle-duster or a life-preserver—I received a second 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and Mr. Hipwell told my brother to follow in half an hour—I saw nothing more; those are the only two conversations I have had—my brother gave me the letters on, I believe, December 15, and I went to Scotland Yard, showed them to the Inspector Lansdowne, and left them there—after that I went to Mr. Guy's office, where my brother made a statement, and I saw Mr. Guy writing—I made a statement, and signed something; that was on 17th December—I took six letters altogether, among which was the one with the advertisement on the back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WADDY</hi>. I got 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. twice, but I do not know what for; I was there, and I thought I ought to be in the same swim as my brother; it was given me with the same impression that I should help to assault this gentleman—my brother and I and my mother had a conversation, and we came to the conclusion that it was a very dangerous affair; that was after my brother got molested by the police—we did not come to that conclusion before my brother's money was stopped—we did not intend to interfere with anybody, but when my brother got interfered with I took the letters to Scotland Yard—I did not give information to the police in any shape or form before that—I was at the Mansion House when my brother was first examined before the Lord Mayor—I heard him examined—I was not examined the first day; I was on the second occasion—we had had no conversation about the evidence we were going to give—our statements had been taken down in the solicitor's office—nothing took place about it being necessary</p>
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<p>for me to corroborate my brother I am Positive of that; nothing of the kind was said; I never saw him above three or four times during: the intervening trials, and I never spoke to him about what we should say, because we had it in our heads, and it was down in our statements at the solicitor's office—my brother did not tell me to keep as near as I could to what I said at the solicitor's office, or to what was down on the paper; nothing at all like it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When I made the statement at Mr. Guy's office I had not arranged with my brother what I should say—as to telling every
<lb/>thing truly, there might be a word out or a word in; it is hard upon a poor man to be so accurate.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-89" type="given" value="ANDREW"/>ANDREW LANSDOWNE</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of the Criminal Investigation Department, Scotland Yard—John Morris came to me there on 15th December, and brought some letters, which the Director has; this one with the advertisement was one—I had no letter then in my possession of Herbert Windle's—I had not received any letter with an enclosure from the Chief Constable's office at Handley, in Stafford shire—I have not seen this letter (
<hi rend="italic">marked I</hi>) before—I began to make inquiries in Tooley Street on 16th December, and saw Mr. Horgan that day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-90" type="given" value="TIMOTHY"/>TIMOTHY HORGAN</persName> </hi>. I am a provision merchant, of 13, Wyndham Road, Camberwell—I have known the defendants about eight years, and have had business transactions with them—Hume sued me last year for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I disputed it—after the case in the County Court was over Hume called me an Irish bogtrotter; I struck him and he struck me, and after that we struck each other—that was outside the Court—I knocked him down and then we were separated—about half an hour afterwards I saw Hume in Tooney Street, but nothing happened, and from then till the end of October I saw him frequently, and we called each other unpleasant names and looked cross at each other, but there was never any violence—about 15th December I received a communica
<lb/>tion from Inspector Lansdowne, who called on me—I knew nothing of the Morrises before that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR H. GIFFARD</hi>. Mr. Guy is my attorney here—he has acted for me before, getting permission to alter a house or a shop—that is the only business—that was about a month ago; no, it was before that, it was before the Morrises came to me—that was the only business—he did not appear for me in any charge against me of violent assault at Margate—I did not appear for myself—I did not plead guilty to a violent assault or to an assault; I said that I was guilty of using strong language, that is all—Mr. James Kirby Vickers did not complain that I had assaulted him on leaving a bathing machine, and thrown him into the sea; if I had done so he would have been wet—he was three-quarters of an hour in the machine, half an hour of which he was dressing, keeping me waiting in the burning sun, and when he opened the door I said "What do you mean?" and shoved him out—I caught hold of him—I had to pay the costs of the Court, and was bound over to keep the peace in 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for three months, with a surety—that was the latter end of August, I fancy—he was a stranger to me, a visitor there bathing—it came on in the County Court in September, I think—it was not after my recognisances, I am sure of that—the action against me was for the balance of account—I was beaten and paid a set-off, and the Judge said that there was only oath against oath, but I might try the case again—he no suited me, he said that my set-off was not proved—I met</p>
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<p>Mr. Hume going away with his copy letter books in one hand and I struck him in the passage of the Court—I bit him, or something of the kind—he rushed at me and put his chin on to my mouth, so close that my teeth touched him—he did not bite himself with my mouth—Mr. Hipwell is Mr. Hume's clerk—I did not go to him and tell him that I would give his master the damndest thrashing a man ever had; I told him his master had committed perjury, and I had given him a good hiding—I knew that he had had the misfortune to have to bring a petition for divorce against his wife, and that lie got a decree—I did not mention that in Court—I say that on the word of an Atheist—I said outside the Court that he was a divorced scoundrel—I do not know that he is morbidly sensitive on that subject—I said in Tooley Street, in reply to very uncomplimentary remarks from him, that he had better go and look after his wife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He and a friend hooted me and called me a coward, and I told him to go and look after his wife—he called me an Irish bog-hopper at the County Court, and then I struck him—I forget whether any provocation had occurred when I called him a divorced scoundrel; I lost my temper, and he was also excited—there had been blows before that, and then he pinioned me and I could not move; he pat his chin to my face, and I pinched it—I fancy there was a slight mark on him; he did not bleed—he took no proceedings against me; no police were present; Hume asked them to arrest me, and they would not, as we were both fighting—with regard to Mr. Vickers, I was waiting outside his bathing-machine three-quarters of an hour; I knocked repeatedly, and he took no notice; after a long time he opened the door, and I said, "What keeps you there all day?"—he asked what I meant; I said, That is no affair of yours"—he said, "You had better be off"—I said that I would not, and I put him out—he had a solicitor, and took me before the Magistrate; I had to pay 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. t and he had to pay his solicitor and his own costs in consequence of the provocation—I had not been guilty of any violence towards Mr. Hume.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Several witnesses deposed to the good character of the defendants.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 11
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-167-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to
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<interp inst="t18810110-167-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>uttering orders for the payment of 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.;</rs>
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<interp inst="t18810110-167-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi> to uttering a request for the delivery of 6 oz. of goldplate.</rs>
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<interp inst="t18810110-167-punishment-7" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-167-18810110 t18810110-167-punishment-7"/>Two Years Imprisonment</rs>. And</p> </div1>
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<p>168.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALEXANDER SCHZMONI</hi> (22)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-168-offence-1 t18810110-name-94"/>Patrick Molony</persName>, with intent to steal.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment Respited.</hi> [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>169.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN STEWART</hi> (24)</persName> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARGARET BAGSHAW</hi> (28)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18810110-169-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-169-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing a clock, the goods of
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-97" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-97" type="surname" value="AMBROSE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-97" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-169-offence-1 t18810110-name-97"/>George Ambrose</persName>.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>, receiving.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">TICKELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-98" type="surname" value="MORRISON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-98" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES MORRISON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. George Ambrose, of 13, Railway Terrace, Forest Gate, a watch and clock maker—the clock pro
<lb/>duced is his property; I saw it last on the 6th December between 5.30 and 6 p.m.; I missed it from a glass case that stands on the counter; its</p>
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<p>value is 28
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., it is new; I next saw it at the police-station at Hoxton on Tuesday evening, the 7th; I had not sold it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-99" type="surname" value="HOLLANDS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-99" type="given" value="FREDERIC"/>FREDERIC HOLLANDS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N</hi> 184). On Tuesday, the 7th Decem
<lb/>ber, I was in the Kingsland Road about 10 a.m.—I saw Bagshaw carry
<lb/>ing a clock, partly in a wrapper, under her arm; I asked Her how she came possessed of it—she said she had had it a long time, and that her husband had given it to her to pawn—I said I was not satisfied with her statement—I took her into custody; she was charged with unlawful possession of the clock; she was taken before the Magistrate the same afternoon at Worship Street—Stewart came forward in the Court and said the clock was his property, and that he had sent her to pawn it; she was discharged; I kept the clock—she gave the name of Margaret Bag
<lb/>shaw; she pointed Stewart out to me outside the Court as her husband.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Stewart.</hi> I told the Magistrate on the 7th December that Bagshaw said she had had the clock a long time; not three or four years.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-100" type="surname" value="SAGE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-100" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SAGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). On 7th December, about 11.30 p.m., I went to 12, Louisa Street after Mr. Morrison had identified the clock—I saw Bagshaw and told her I should take her into custody for stealing the clock—she said she did not steal it, but the man she lived with gave it her to pledge—I took her to the station; she was charged—she gave her name as Margaret Bagshaw.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-101" type="surname" value="LLOYD"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-101" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LLOYD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). On Thursday, the 9th December, I took Stewart into custody as he was leaving the House of Detention—I told him I should take him into custody for being concerned with a woman now inside the walls in stealing a clock at Forest Gate on the 6th—he said, "It is my clock; I bought it down the Lane on Monday afternoon"—I showed him the clock—I took him to West. Ham—he said his name was John Bagshaw—the prisoners were taken before the Magistrates at Stratford, remanded, and afterwards discharged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Stewart.</hi> I did not ask you your name; I said I took you into custody as John Stewart.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Stewart, in his Statement before the Magistrate, said that he bought the clock of a dealer with other goods, and that he asked Bagshaw to pawn it.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-169-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>170.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS RYAN</hi> (20)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18810110-170-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-170-offence-1 t18810110-name-103"/>Edward Con
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEITH FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-104" type="surname" value="CONWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-104" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD CONWAY</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, of 11, Dial Street, Bloomsbury—on Saturday night, before the 29th November, about 12 o'clock, I was in St. Martin's Lane—three men came to me; the prisoner was one; he put his hand to my throat, and pushed me against the wall; he snatched my chain—I caught hold of him by the throat and wrist; we struggled; a crowd gathered; I detained him till a constable came—I saw my watch and chain.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The value of them is about 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said at the police-station it was worth 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., including the chain; I had had a drop of drink, two glasses of ale and a share of half a quartern of gin between three—the watch was a present from my wife; I had had it 11 weeks—a young woman was with us, who lives at 15, Leicester Square—we were not drunk.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-105" type="surname" value="KING"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-105" type="given" value="FREDERIC"/>FREDERIC KING</persName> </hi>. I am a cheesemonger, of 20, Little Gross Street—I was passing down St. Martin's Lane about 12.30 on 28th November; I saw the last witness and the prisoner straggling; the prisoner threw the prosecutor on the ground; a crowd gathered.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-106" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD MITCHELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 237). About half-past 12 on the night of 28th November I was in St. Martin's Lane and heard cries—I went to the spot; I saw the prisoner holding the prosecutor by the throat; he was bleeding from a wound in the face; he said "I charge this man with stealing my watch"—the prisoner made no remark—I took him to the station and searched him; I did not find the watch—the prosecutor said he had been drinking; but he knew what he was doing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-170-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-170-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>**
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction in this Court in April hut in the name of Thomas Murphy.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-170-18810110 t18810110-170-punishment-9"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>171.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">PETER CRAWFORD</hi> (17)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-171-offence-1 t18810110-name-108"/>Richard Robert Mills</persName>, with intent to steal.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RAVEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-109" type="surname" value="SOPER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-109" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH SOPER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 383). On Saturday, the 18th December, about 7.30 p.m., I was with Police-constable Enright in Broad Street, Ratcliff—I saw Mills very drunk standing up against a wall; he stag
<lb/>gered; the prisoner came up and struck him on the eye, knocked him down, and put his hand into his coat pocket—I went towards them; some one cried out to Crawford "Leave him alone; you will get yourself into trouble"—I took the prisoner into custody; I charged him with assault
<lb/>ing a drunken man—the prisoner said "He challenged to fight me first"—I took him to the station; I found on him If. 11 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in his trousers pocket—I did not see any sailors about.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was in a doorway watching; I said so to the Magis
<lb/>trate—I did not hear any challenging—I was on the same side of the road the prosecutor was knocked down—when I first saw them I was on the other side—I saw no row; they crossed the road and came to the side I was; I was about forty yards away when I first saw them, and about five yards when they crossed the road.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner followed the drunken man across the road—I was in plain clothes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-110" type="surname" value="ENRIGHT"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-110" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ENRIGHT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 293). I was on duty with the last wit
<lb/>ness in plain clothes—Mills was very drunk; I saw the prisoner strike Mills on the left eye and knock him down on the roadway; whilst he was down he put his hand in Mills's pocket—Super took Crawford and I took Mills—I found 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on Mills.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was concealed in a doorway with the other constable—they were from fifteen to twenty yards off—I heard no squabble—I did not see the prosecutor kick the prisoner—people gathered round; I could not swear now many; about two.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I first saw them in the middle of the road—the occur
<lb/>rence took place on the pavement; I was watching on the opposite side.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-111" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-111" type="surname" value="MILLS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-111" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD MILLS</persName> </hi>. I was drunk on the 18th December—I remember being knocked down—I had about 33
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in my pocket; I spent 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; when I got to the police-station I had 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze—I was not interfered with by any sailors; I have not a clear idea of what happened.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I came out at 3.30 p.m.; the assault was about 7.30</p>
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<p>as far as I know—I had been drinking in three public-houses; I was very drunk—I have a dim recollection of being knocked down; I know nothing of the attempted robbery.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I was coming down Broad Street, and the prosecutor interfered with two sailors. I said 'If you do not look out they will kill you; you had better get away.' One struck him and knocked him on the grating, and struck him in the eye. I said 'You had better get away.' He said 'Are you as good a man as them sailors?' I said 'No, I am not.' He up and hit me and kicked me on the ankle. He ran after me and hit me again; he made the third blow and fell down on the crating just by Bags's. Some gentlemen said 'Why don't you go away? I said 'He won't let me go away; he keeps following me.' The man said 'Come along with me,' and he came after me again and hit me again. This gentleman shoved him away from the two of us. As I was going to run away again these two con
<lb/>stables came up and took hold of me."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
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<p>172.
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<interp inst="t18810110-172-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing 29 pairs of gloves, the goods of
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-113" type="surname" value="MORLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-113" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-172-offence-1 t18810110-name-113"/>Samuel Morley</persName> and others.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THORNE COLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-114" type="surname" value="WRIGHTSON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-114" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WRIGHTSON</persName> </hi>. I am a warehouseman employed by Messrs. I. and R. Morley in Wood Street—about 1.30 on the 31st December I saw the prisoner in the warehouse in the French glove department; he was standing with his back to the counter holding this black bag behind him (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—a box of gloves was on the counter; I went to him and said "What do you want?"—he said "I want some kid gloves at 84
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>."—that is ridiculous, and I said "We have nothing of that kind; if you go round the corner I will show you the things we have"—he immediately dropped the bag behind his back; I heard him throw it under the counter; I went back to pick it up; he ran downstairs as fast as he could—directly I picked up the bag I saw the gloves in it—I ran after him and said "Stop thief?"—he was stopped by one of our customers and brought back; he was walking towards the door when I said "Stop thief," and then he ran—the gloves in the bag corresponded with the gloves on the counter behind him—I found two dozen and five pairs at 45
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. per dozen—he said he had no bag in his hand; I am sure he had, the bag produced; it fell on an empty box.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The French kid glove department is on the first floor; the hosiery department is down three or four steps; the French and English gloves are on that floor—we have two staircases; you can get into the first department without going into the glove room—Mr. Jones was serving; others, named Hall, Hock, and Middle ton, also serve—the prisoner faced the fireplace, which was not a yard from him—I could not say whether he was warming himself; his back was towards the counter—I should have served him, but he ran away—I called out to James, one of our waiters; he is not here—he did not come up; he ran after the prisoner down below.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-115" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-115" type="surname" value="APPLEBY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-115" type="given" value="FREDERICE GEOEGE"/>FREDERICE GEOEGE APPLEBY</persName> </hi>. I am a general draper residing at Westboume Park—I am a customer of Mr. Morley's—on the 31st of December last I was entering Mr. Morley's warehouse about 1.30 p.m.; I heard the cry of "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoner rushing out; I laid</p>
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<p>hold of him, but by force he carried me out into Wood Street, and my shoulder caught against the wheel of a cab—I held him till others came from the warehouse and took him back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> A lot of people were going in and out; I was in the doorway entering; as I opened the left-hand door the prisoner opened the right; they are swing doors.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-116" type="surname" value="WRIGHTSON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-116" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WRIGHTSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I explained the matter to Mr. Donne, a member of the firm—I did not tell him nor any one the prisoner had his left hand in the box—I first saw that the prisoner had no left hand in the counting-house—he had his hook in his pocket.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-117" type="surname" value="RANDALL"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-117" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY RANDALL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). I took the prisoner in charge;. I took him to the Thames Police-station—he was charged—he said "I do not know anything at all about the tag"—I searched him and found 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>*
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction of felony at this Court in November</hi>, 1877.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18810110-172-punishment-10" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-172-punishment-10" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-172-18810110 t18810110-172-punishment-10"/>Two Years' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>173.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EMMANUEL JARVIS THOMPSON</hi> (27)</persName> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HORATIO PHILIP NEAL</hi> (19)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18810110-173-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-173-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Feloniously wounding
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-120" type="surname" value="PORTER"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-173-offence-1 t18810110-name-120"/>Charles Porter</persName>, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEITH FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Thompson</hi>;</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEVEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Neal.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-121" type="surname" value="PORTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-121" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES PORTER</persName> </hi>. I am a cabdriver—the prisoners are strangers to me—one Sunday morning between 12 and 1 o'clock I had brought my cab home—I was taking my rug off the cab in Coburg Row, Westminster—the prisoners came up; Thompson asked me if I wanted to fight—I said "No"—he struck me on the face—I tried to return the blow—we both fell to the ground—I felt a knife in my face—I got up as quick as I could—Neal ran up—thinking he was going to hit me I tried to stop the blow—I felt something run down my knuckle—it was cut—blood was on it and on my face—I ran after the prisoners—they were stopped in Rochester Row—at the police-station I charged them with stabbing me—they said they had got no knife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. No knife was found on them—I took off my coat to save it from the blood—they went in the direction of the police-station—I did not hear them call out "Police!" nor that they were going to charge me—I have been summoned for loitering and causing obstruction; nothing else.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEVEY</hi>. I had not taken my cab into the yard—the road is not wide, but there is room for two vehicles to pass—it is a granite road—I did not offer to fight, nor my brother that I know of—I did not go to Battersea to fight—I can use my fists, but I am not a prize
<lb/>fighter; a quarrel is different—I very seldom quarrel; if I am hit I should be like other people, return the blow—it is not a fact that I and my brother are constantly fighting—we are not known in the neighbour
<lb/>hood as quarrelsome—I was brought up there—I never saw the knife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I had been out with my cab all day, and was more ready for bed than fighting.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. I had fallen on Thompson when I felt the knife—I went to St. George's Hospital, and was attended by a medical man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-122" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-122" type="surname" value="PORTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-122" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES PORTER</persName> </hi>. I live at 5, Coburg; Bow, Westminster—I am a general dealer, and brother to the last witness—I was standing at the door when the prisoners came up; one of them hit my brother, and both fell to</p>
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<p>the ground—he stood over my brother with a knife, and said "I will stab any one that comes near me"—I said to my brother "Charley, mind the knife"—the prisoner put it in his pocket—my brother was bleeding when he got up from the ground—I lent him my handker
<lb/>chief—he ran after the prisoners—Neal said to Thompson "Pull out your knife."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. My brother had his coat off when he was on the ground—he struck no blows—he tried to defend himself; that was before he took his coat off to save it from the blood—it was made of box-cloth—the prisoners did not say they would charge me nor my brother—they did not call out "Police!"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEVEY</hi>. The prisoner put the knife in his right-hand trousers pocket—the blade was open—it was a hansom cab—my brother was giving his wife the things off the cab—I did not hear either of the prisoners ask my brother to drive him to Battersea.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> They ran about 100 yards—I was then about 40 yards away from them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-123" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-123" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-123" type="surname" value="PORTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-123" type="given" value="ALICE"/>ALICE PORTER</persName> </hi>. I am the prosecutor's wife—I was standing waiting for him when the prisoners came up—Thompson asked my husband if he wanted to fight—he said he did not—Thompson struck Him; they fell on the ground—James Porter said "Be careful, he has got a knife"—my husband got up bleeding from his face—Neal slapped me in the face, and both ran away—I saw them stopped by the police.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEVEY</hi>. I was at the police-court but did not give evidence the first time; I was not called—I was waiting to take the things from my husband—he took his coat off when he got up—I said "Take off your coat, you had better go to the hospital"—he had a bright coat on, and I thought it might be spoiled—he was on the ground two or three minutes—I did not see the knife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-124" type="surname" value="NIOHOLLS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-124" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES NIOHOLLS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 147). About 20 minutes to 1 o'clock on Sunday morning, the 18th December, I was in Rochester Bow, when I heard cries of "Police!"—I saw the prisoners running towards me; I stopped Neal; James Porter and others came up, and said Neal had stabbed his brother—Neal said "Find the knife—they were searched at the station; no knife was found—the prisoners did not prefer any charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. I did not hear the prisoners cry "Police!"—they ran towards the police-station; they were covered with mud, and looked as if they had been fighting.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEVEY</hi>. No blood was on Neal; I searched in the road; I found no knife; I should say the prisoners had been drinking.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-125" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-125" type="surname" value="SHIELD"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-125" type="given" value="MAEMADUKE"/>MAEMADUKE SHIELD</persName> </hi>. I was house-surgeon at 8t. George's Hospital—I attended the prosecutor on the 19th December about 1.30—he was suffer
<lb/>ing from a small wound on the left cheek, and also a cut on the right knuckle; they must have been inflicted by a sharp instrument.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. A sharp pebble would not have caused it; the wound was clean, no haemorrhage, and it gaped—a glass bottle might have caused it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEVEY</hi>. I was not called before the Magistrate—I did not examine the prisoners.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners received good characters.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-173-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="lesserOffence"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> of unlawfully wounding.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy on account of their good character.—
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<interp inst="t18810110-173-punishment-11" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-173-18810110 t18810110-173-punishment-11"/>Four Months' Im
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 12
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Grove.</hi> </p>
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<p>174.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH TIDMAN</hi> (58)</persName> and
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners had been previously tried and sentenced upon an indictment for unlawfully neglecting the said child, and upon this indictment the sentence was the same, to be concurrent with the other</hi>—viz.,
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH TIDMAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-174-18810110 t18810110-174-punishment-12"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZA TIDMAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18810110-174-punishment-13" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-174-18810110 t18810110-174-punishment-13"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">For other cases tried on this day and Thursday, see Surrey Cases.</hi>)</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 12
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>,; 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Bowen.</hi> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-131" type="given" value="JOHN ROWLAND"/>JOHN ROWLAND GIBSON</persName> </hi>. The prisoner came under my observation on Saturday last—I have conversed with her as well as I could—she is unable to understand the charge, and unfit to plead to it.
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<p>(
<hi rend="italic">For other Cases tried this day see Essex and Surrey Cases.</hi>)</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 12
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<p>176.
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.)—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-176-18810110 t18810110-176-punishment-15"/>Four Months Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>177.
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<interp inst="t18810110-177-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-177-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>, Unlawfully ob
<lb/>taining from
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-135" type="surname" value="PRESTON"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-177-offence-1 t18810110-name-135"/>Percy Preston</persName> and other persons various goods by false pretences with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CARVAV</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18810110-177-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="miscVerdict"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-177-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="postponed"/>In this case, the Court being informed that one of the Jury had been seen in communication, with one of the witnesses during the adjournment, the Jury were discharged, and the case postponed till the next Session.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 12
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>178.
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<interp inst="t18810110-178-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-178-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>stealing in the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-178-offence-1 t18810110-name-137"/>Richard Bolton Jones</persName> the sum of 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., two coats, and other articles, and afterwards burglariously breaking out of the said house.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment Respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>179.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK FRANCIS COPPING</hi> (31)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., received on behalf of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18810110-179-offence-1 t18810110-name-139"/>Richard Millar</persName>, his master.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEITH FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-140" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD MILLAR</persName> </hi>. I am a drysalter and sauce manufacturer, of Duncan Road, Hackney—up to a fortnight before he was charged the prisoner was in my employ as traveller—he gave me no notice of his intention to leave—his duties were to collect orders and accounts, and remit the same to me every night—he was allowed 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per week for expenses and 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per week for salary—he was not entitled to give his services to any one but myself—on the 9th November I sent him to Luton in Bedfordshire, of which I have a memorandum in ink in his own handwriting on his order-sheet—I produce his letter of the same night. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "November 9th, 1880. Bedford Station. Dear Sir,—Enclosed you will find cheques from Hawkes and Simons, Bedford. I am just off to Northampton. Enclosed you will find orders from Luton and Bedford.—Yours truly, F. F. Copping.") I had a customer of the name of Colley at Birmingham—it would be part of the prisoner's duty to collect the accounts due to me from Colley—on the 28th November I received this letter from the prisoner, dated "Cornwallis Hotel, Manchester. Dear Sir,—Both letters to hand, with cheque enclosed for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I dare say you think it unkind of me not writing to you before, but I have been very poorly. I have had a rash come all over my body and hands, which you will see when Income home on Thursday. Enclosed you will find a few small orders. I can scarcely hold the pen as it is; my hands are all discharging. I will send you cheque for all cash to
<lb/>morrow. I am going to Liverpool to
<lb/>morrow, as I cannot get a cheque to-day—Brown did not pay his account; Colley did; 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on that account is to his name, and Barber 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; Longman 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.," &c. (Signed) "F. F. Copping." He did not send that money, which it was his duty to do—I have charged him with forging that cheque.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I carry on one portion of my business under the name of "Millar and Co."—there is no "Co."—I have three places of business—I have just started another business at 49, Nicholas Road, Yarmouth—I carry on business in the name of "Richards and Co.," "Millar and Co.," and "Copeing and Co."—the business at Yarmouth is in ketchup—the invoices went out from there—the business was my own idea—the prisoner's mother lived at 49, Nicholas Road, Yarmouth—the recipe for the ketchup was not his mother's property—they never Bold it to mo; it was my own invention, and it was named "Norfolk ketchup," and has upon it "Pure Norfolk Ketchup, Bottled by F. Copeing, 49, Nicholas Bold, Great Yarmouth"—the prisoner's mother's name was Copeing—it does not say the ketchup was made there, but that it was bottled there—the prisoner's salary being very heavy, and he not being able to sell enough goods to cover his expenses and salary, this business was suggested by me to help pay part of his expenses—in our trade it is the custom to put various names on various things; for instance Worcester Sauce, that is made in London; Reading Sauce is also made in London, and Yorkshire Relish—in every trade there is a little secret, and people like the ketchup from Norfolk better than any
<lb/>where else, the same as Cambridge sausages—I first got information of the prisoner receiving those sums and not paying them over by writing to several persons because he had neglected the business—I knew he had received those sums before he wrote to me—I believe I have always stated that this requires explanation—I was examined at the police-court,</p>
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<p>when my evidence was taken down and read to me, and I signed it—if it says in the deposition "The prisoner wrote and told me had received those three sums of money before I knew he received them "I have no doubt I said it—I was communicating with Mr. Longman and some hundreds of my creditors, and I was under the impression that I had received a letter beforehand respecting the cheque from Longman, at least, and with regard to Colley and Barber I am not quite sure; if I had looked I should have remembered—my memory is defective on the point—if he told me had received the money he did not pay it over—I suppose he sent me about fifty pounds' to sixty pounds' worth of orders on the 26th November—he accounted for all the other money he received in reference to these letters—it was his duty to send the money the same day he received it—the prisoner says he was a partner; I say he was a traveller—the cheques were always made out to myself—I have a customer named Sutton—I have not a cheque drawn in the prisoner's name—I did receive one drawn in his name from Sutton, who is a sauce manufacturer, in reference to ket
<lb/>chup—it was not endorsed or paid in—I am not awaiting the result of this trial before I endorse it—the cheque was originally made out "F. Copping"—it is now altered into "Copeing"—Mr. Sutton did that; he made the alteration about two days after the prisoner's wife gave it to me; before the prisoner was charged—I am waiting for another cheque from the same man—I cannot tell whether it is usual for a man of business to carry a cheque about dated since the 27th November for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and keep it without endorsing it—that is the first cheque I have had from Sutton and Company, and it was my first transaction with them—Mr. Sutton is not here—I never said at the police-court that I was awaiting the result of this trial before I endorsed the cheque—Mr. Sheepwash, of New Brompton, is a customer of mine, and Hdwes, of Friar Street, Beading—I have never received cheques from them drawn in their names; I paid the prisoner's salary to his wife every Saturday—I never took receipts from him; I have his letters acknowledging the cheques—the date of the last one is November 29; it is pinned to the depositions—the business at Great Yarmouth does not pay at present—we had only just started it when he went on his first journey—these are the first orders—I did not say in my circular that I had the mushrooms direct from the marsh farmers of the district—the prisoner got that circular up, and I would not allow one of them to be sent out—I objected to it on trade grounds, because it told a palpable falsehood—if I sold "Yorkshire Relish," which was made in London, that would not be open to the same objection; it is not a fraud to take a place in Norfolk, because people in London think they get better ketchup there, and to sell it as Norfolk ketchup though made in London—we do not send it to Norfolk—it is a trade practice; people can think it comes from Norfolk if they choose; that is, no doubt, the reason why I took the place there—I believe some prints of the circular were sent out, but I had it withdrawn directly; it was not published with my sanction—a proof was not submitted to me—I gave the prisoner the money to have invoices and tablets printed, not the circulars—I gave him no directions for them; he had the invoices and tablets printed, and came to me for the money—I never saw the bills; I left it to his discretion; our agreement as to salary was verbal—I am the absolute proprietor—the prisoner collected the orders, sent them up to me, and I executed them; mine are all credit customers—I had carried on the business for 20 years</p>
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<p>before I knew the prisoner; he knew no more of his business than a cat before he came to me—there is no truth in the suggestion that he was my partner, and that the profits were to be divided Between us; I gave him no reason to believe it—I have a customer named Flett, of Liverpool; he wrote to me to say he had paid the prisoner his account, for which he never accounted—I think his letter is with the depositions. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "Sir,—I enclose you cheque value 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in payment of the two hogs
<lb/>heads of ketchup. Please forward remaining three hogsheads at your convenience.") That cheque did not come to hand; that was in October—I have not charged the prisoner with forging that cheque; the prisoner's letter is dated 28th November—I gave him into custody as soon as I could find out where he was; I did not give him a chance of repaying me the money before I gave him into custody; very likely I shall not endorse Mr. Button's cheque at all, for the simple reason that he has agreed to pay me the full amount in my own name—I trade in that name; I had no reason for holding it over—I went to Mr. Sutton to stop the prisoner getting any more money, and told him exactly how it was—he knew the prisoner as F. Copeing; my Christian name is not Frederick; I believe the prisoner's is.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Those three accounts in Copeing's name charged in the indictment were not for ketchup, but for sauce and various goods; I could not ask the prisoner for the money, because he had gone off—I had a letter from him a week before, on the 22nd of November, enclosing some orders, and asking for a cheque to be sent to him; it is in the prisoner's handwriting. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "Grand Hotel, Birmingham, Nov. 22nd, 1880. Dear Sir,—Enclosed you will find a few small orders for Coventry, also a cheque from Ambrose and Co. Bell, of Coventry, will send his account on. Barber paid cash 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. I am just off to Gloucester. Address me at Cornwallis Hotel, Ducie Bridge, Manchester. I shall be there to
<lb/>morrow, when I shall want a cheque for expenses. Signed, Copping.") I sent him a cheque to Manchester according to his instructions, and I never heard anything of him for eight days, when I got the letter dated 28th November—in the meantime I had stopped all the accounts as far as I could; he got those three accounts before I had time to stop them; there
<lb/>fore that week he was doing nothing for me at all, virtually he was on the
<hi rend="italic">spree</hi>—when I got that letter I sent him a telegram in the morning to tell him to come home—he came home some weeks after—about half an hour after I sent that telegram I received a communication from Liver
<lb/>pool, on which I telegraphed to Liverpool, telling him to come home—I neither saw nor heard any more of him until he was in custody on the 16th December—I had not given information to the police to arrest him—I was waiting for him to come home, knowing he must come home some time or other—I did not know where he was, and I could not go and look over the world alter him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOHEGAN</hi>. I do not think that in one case out of fifty in an engagement of this kind there is a written agreement—I had not one with the traveller before—I paid him salary and commission—I have several travellers on commission in London—the prisoner had his journeys chalked out for him—his most northern town would be Liverpool; that journey was to extend over three weeks—I stopped sending him money after his letter of the 28th November.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. If he had 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to remit to me, he would get a</p>
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<p>cheque drawn in my name from a customer—he should send the in
<lb/>dividual cheques—I understand by "I will send cheque for this amount to
<lb/>morrow" (17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd), that he would go to one of my customers and ask him for a cheque in my name for the amount, which he would have sent up, and which he had done frequently—I paid the prisoner's wife three 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and one 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. after the prisoner had gone off, as I did not like to see the woman and children in a fix—I give about two months' credit—I gent him cheques for whatever he wanted for expenses.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-141" type="surname" value="COLLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-141" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER COLLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a dry Salter of 64, Shelly Street, Birmingham—Richard Millar and Co. are suppliers of mine—on the 19th November I paid the prisoner 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in cash, for which he gave me this receipt. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "Duncan Road, London Fields, London. Received this 19th day of November, 1880, of Mr. W. Colley, the sum of 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., for and on account of Richard Millar and Co. F. F. Copping.")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> That was for ketchup and anchovies.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-142" type="surname" value="BARBER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-142" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BARBER</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer, of Cross Chipping, Coventry—on the 22nd November I paid the prisoner 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., for which he gave me this receipt. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "Duncan Road, London Fields, London. Received this 22nd day of November, 1880, of Mr. Barber, 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., for and on account of Millar and Co.")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> That was partly for ketchup.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-143" type="surname" value="LONGMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-143" type="given" value="HENRY HODGES"/>HENRY HODGES LONGMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer of Gloucester—on the 26th December I passed a cheque to the prisoner, for which he gave me this receipt. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "Received this 26th day of December, 1880, of Mr. Longman, cheque 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I don't think that ketchup would be a thing that I should order of Millar and Co.—I do not know a firm of the name of Copeing and Co.—I don't know that Norfolk is celebrated for its mushrooms.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-144" type="surname" value="HEWETT"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-144" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HEWETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N</hi> 151). I took the prisoner into custody at his own house—he asked to see Mr. Millar, but he declined—I took him to the station—he was not admitted to bail—he was given into custody by Mr. Millar, and not taken on a warrant.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-179-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-179-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">There were two other indictments against the prisoner for forgery which were postponed to the next Session.</hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, January</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1880, and</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Friday, January</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RAVEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-147" type="given" value="MARKS"/>MARKS FLETCHER</persName> </hi>. I live at 222, Commercial Road East—I was present at the marriage between Horace Markin and Hannah Aarons in July—I cannot remember the date—this is the certificate—the prisoner is the woman—it took place in Leman Street, according to the Jewish ceremony—Markin is alive—I know him and have known him for many years—I have seen him lately.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-148" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY BUTTERFIELD</persName> </hi>. I live at 46, Theobald Street, Holborn—I am registrar of marriages for the district of Islington—my</p>
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<p>office is at 285, Upper Street, Islington—I produce the original certificate of marriage on the 18th August, 1880, between Hannah Markin and Septimus Swyer—the prisoner is Hannah Markin—this is a true copy of the original.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-149" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES NUTKINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N</hi>). I apprehended the prisoner on the 25th of October a second time—I had previously apprehended her and she was discharged—I told her the charge—she made no reply—the first time I apprehended her I told her a man was waiting outside the house who had the certificates and claimed to be her husband—she said "Let him come inside"—he came in; she dropped back in a chair and said "I thought he was dead."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no evidence to show that the prisoner knew her husband was alive at the time of her second marriage. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">being of that opinion, the Jury found the prisoner</hi> </p>
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<p>181.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">DANIEL CAHILL</hi> (39)</persName> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EBENEZER MATTHEW REY
<lb/>NOLDS</hi> (27)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18810110-181-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>, Unlawfully conspiring, by false representations, to procure Reynolds a situation as barman.
<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> varying the form of charge.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WARNER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Cahill</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Reynolds.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-152" type="surname" value="SHEAD"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-152" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHEAD</persName> </hi>. I keep the Mitre public-house, Downham Road, Kingsland—on 21st March, 1879, I saw this advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Morning Advertiser</hi>: "As barman, second or single, a steady active young man, age 24, used to a country trade, willing and obliging; highest reference from gentleman just left and former employer. Direct, A. B., 190, Jamaica Road, Bermondsey"—I instructed my wife to write in answer to the address, given, and on the same evening Reynolds called at my house; he brought my wife's letter—I asked him if ho had come for the barman's situation—he said "Yes," and that his name was Reynolds; he said he was the person alluded to in the advertisement, and that he Lad received the letter from my wife—I asked where he had been living; he said at the Grapes, Rotherhithe Wall, and that Mr. Cahill, who kept the Grapes, was his master; he said he had lived there nine months—I asked him if they would give him a character—he said "Yes"—I said, "When can I see Mr. Cahill? I cannot go this evening"—he said, "To
<lb/>morrow morning"—I said, "I will endeavour to go there"—I went the next morning to the Grapes; I saw Cahill; I asked him if he had had a man in his employ named Joseph Reynolds; he said he had—I said, "Because he has made an application to me for a barman's situation;" I asked the reason that he was leaving—Cahill said, "I wanted him to do the potman's place as well as the barman's"—I said, "You can hardly expect a man to go back; he wants to go forward, I should think;" I asked him how long he had lived with him—he said, "Nine months," distinctly—I said, "Is he sober, honest, and industrious?"—he said, "Yes, so much so that, as I deal in glass, he takes it out at times in my interest"—I said upon that character I should take him—the Grapes is a very small house—I asked where I could find Reynolds; I think he said it was in the Jamaica Road, Bermondsey, at a shoemaker's shop; I went there; I saw a young woman and left a message—on the following Monday, 24th March, Reynolds commended his duty with me—he con
<lb/>tinued in my employment, up to the 1st February, 1880—between those</p>
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<p>days I noticed a considerable falling-off in ray takings I have made a statement taken from my till-book, which I have brought here; it is in my own handwriting—Reynolds was the only person in the bar with the exception of my wife, my son, and myself, but my wife never served; my son William served and myself—I take the corresponding months of '78, '79, and '80; taking 10 months from March, '78, my takings were 4,610
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; from March, '79, they were 4,122
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and the following 10 months, from March, '80,4,709
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the latter increase, perhaps has arisen through, an alteration I have had made in my place—on 24th April, when the, prisoner was out, I took 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. over and above any of the days that he was in; on 27th May I took 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. more; on the 18th August 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. more; those are days when he went for a holiday—I always made an entry when he was out—he was in the country on the 10th and 11th of September, and on those days my takings were 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. over and above the other days in that week, and on the 9th October I took 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. only—unfor
<lb/>tunately I had to take my wife to Matlock, and my takings fell con
<lb/>siderably; on 29th October my general takings fell down from 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., the day I was away—on 11th October I found 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. short—I was laid up for several days with a sore throat—on the 16th December there was 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. short—on Sunday, let February, I called Reynolds into my parlour; I said, "What name did you give me when you came here?"—he said, "Joseph Reynolds"—I said, "How is it that my children find your linen marked 'E. M.'?"—he hesitated to give an answer—I said, "You took the name of George;" he wished to be called George instead of Joseph; I did not get a satisfactory answer with regard to the linen—I said, "Let me see, how long a character did I have with you"—he said, "Nine months I think you had"—I said, "Where did you live before?"—he said, "With Mr. Simpson, of Broad Wharf"—I said, "What was your reason for leaving there?"—he said, "Mr. Simpson died, and the potman and I removed the body and made a jeer, and it came to the lady's knowledge and she discharged me"—I said, "Do you know I have long complained of the falling-off of my trade?"—he said, "Yes, I know you have," or something of that character, I cannot recollect the exact words, it is a long time ago—I said, "Is it true that you had a man in here asking you for money?"—he said "Yes"—I said, "And have you been out a day or two looking after him?"—he hesitated, then said, "Yes, I think I have"—I said, "You made a mistake by doing so"—he warmed up about that time and said, "I do not know what you are getting at"—I said, "I am simply asking you questions"—"Oh," he said, "I shall not stop and sleep here to-night"—I said, "I do not discharge you, you clearly understand you are not discharged"—he left of his own accord; he asked for some brandy as he was going away, and my wife gave him some; I saw no more of him till the next morning; it was between 11 and 12 o'clock at night when he left—the next morning when I saw him he asked for his wages; I refused to pay them—he asked if he might take his box away; I said, "Yes, you can take it"—I have not seen him since; I have not been applied to for his character; I have had no communication with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I produce my day-book—I keep the books myself—Reynolds has not had to pay 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for my wife's cab fares—she kept my keys; she had not taken my money; I know that because I</p>
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<p>make up my books, and they balance almost to a penny—I never took the keys from my wife; I gave them to my eldest son, except we were both together—I never did it permanently—my son Samuel took half a sovereign; not from the till, but from a tray that I kept for change, but Reynolds did not catch him, my own son did—no one complained—I was bound to detect it—I punished my son for it; I did not thank Reynolds for bringing it to my attention; nine months may be considered a good character for a barman according to some people's views—I took Reynolds on that—I discharged him in three months; he remained six months longer at his own request, not at mine—the takings did not tumble off so much then as they did afterwards—I distinctly asked Cahill if he had employed Reynolds as barman; he did not tell me Reynolds did potman's work or I should not have taken him; he did not say Reynolds had a little trap, or that he was a handy man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I heard the evidence of the police; I do not know how many; they were not all in uniform—I do not know Riley and Nolan (
<hi rend="italic">Riley and Nolan were called in</hi>)—I did not see them at the police-court—I was not present on the last occasion; I was present at every other examination—my safe was in the bar-parlour; my wife had the keys; she was not in the habit of going out in cabs—I will not swear she has not been hours and hours, and that the cab fare has come to 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I know a potman named Edward; perhaps his name was Clark—my wife took stimulants, but not to a great extent—I never took her to a sanatorium at Bristol; it was Matlock; it was a hydropathic in
<lb/>stitution—I say distinctly that Reynolds has not had to pay 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in cab fares for my wife—I was 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. short in my takings—I did not detect it at first; it did not exist—I first noticed the fallings off about August, 1879; I detected them in September, and onwards every week, except when he was out—I never was at Ramsgate—(
<hi rend="italic">Looking at a book</hi>) it is a wrong entry; it is my writing—I do not usually make a mistake—I was not away from London a week in Reynolds's time, from Sunday to Sunday, nor six days—his holidays were once a month—the entry on the 18th of August "Lost off the tray" is not in reference to my boy—the tray was in the bar-parlour—there is no entry when my boy took the 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; I did not lock him up for a week, nor feed him on gruel—I gave him porridge for a day or two—he had to like it, and so would you if you were my child—on one occasion I cross-questioned him, and he has been a better boy ever since—my son William had access to the safe; I could trust him with untold gold—Reynolds was in the bar all the morning—I have taken the keys away from my wife for a reason—I am not willing to send for my son—I never missed money from my safe; money was taken from it for housekeeping and other purposes—Reynolds was not away a week once; it was two days, on account of a cousin dying.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> My boy Samuel was in his 9th year when the theft oc
<lb/>curred—he went to school; there is no ground for saying he was con
<lb/>tinually robbing me—he had never done it before to my knowledge; it occurred in 1879 I think—William was about eighteen and a half years old—the half-sovereign was taken in the parlour and not in the bar at all; if William comes here I have no one else to look after my business—my books include all my expenditure, and what my wife had was taken into account—I only punished my child of nine, that once—I never discovered my safe having been tampered with.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18810110-name-153" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-153" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-153" type="given" value="ELLIN"/>ELLIN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am a single woman, and live at 32, Derrick Street, Rotherhithe—I am Mr. Abbott's servant—I remember going into the service of Mr. Cahill at the Grapes; my brother died about two months after I went there; I cannot fix the date exactly; I cannot read; it was about two years ago; I was in his service about eight months; there were four rooms in the house and a bar-parlour; three were bed-rooms; my bedroom was at the top; Mrs. Cahill's brother occupied the other bedroom—I was about twenty-one; he was a little older—on the next floor was a billiard-room, and the room occupied by Mr. Cahill—Reynolds never slept there—we reached the kitchen through the skittle-grounds—Mrs. Cahill did not serve in the bar—I never saw any barman—Mrs. Cahill's brother was potman; when I went there Cahill had only been there a few weeks; he told me so—it was not many weeks before Christmas when I left.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I stayed there about six months after my brother died; I am sure it was not three years ago.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I did not give evidence at the police-court; I was first asked to come here the day before yesterday—I should know the gentleman who came to me—Mr. Cahill did not give me a character when I left; I do not know why; I was on friendly terms with Mrs. Cahill's brother; he always told me he was older than I was; I did not keep company with him—Mr. Cahill did not discharge me; there was no notice given—Mr. Cahill's brother-in-law picked up my purse on the stairs of the skittle-ground, and came up to give it to me at my bed-room door; he was not in my bedroom; I will swear we were not in bed together—Mr. Cahill did not tell me to go; I went because my parents had been wanting me to leave my situation for some time, and Mr. Cahill came up and spoke to me in an ungentlemanly manner, and I got up next morning and went away, and after three days I got into another situation—Mr. Cahill did not accuse me of anything; he asked what his brother-in-law did, and I told him directly what he wanted, and what he gave me, and I have the purse to show; it was after closing time—I did not speak to Mrs. Cahill about it nor she to me; I have no recollection of what he said.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> No imputation nor blame was cast upon me—Mr. Tooley was one of the gentlemen who called to see me; he was a detective; another was a stout gentleman, and another a young man; I went to Mr. Smith's after I left Cahill's, and before I went to Abbott's; he kept the British Queen at Kentish Town; I was there about seven months—I am now living at 32, Derrick Street—the prisoner used to come to Cahill's and drink, but always outside the bar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-154" type="surname" value="LUND"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-154" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LUND</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer living at Rotherhithe, and am related by marriage to the last witness; I married her sister—I remember her brother John Brown's death—I cannot read—I remember Ellen Brown being at the Grapes about two months before her brother died; she was there altogether about eight months as a domestic general servant—I went there once or twice a week—I never saw a barman there; Reynolds did not act as barman—I never saw him with an apron on during the time I went there; I went there once or twice after my sister-in-law left—Cahill made a complaint about her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. He told me that he found his brother-in-law and my sister-in-law in bed together—he gave me that as his reason for discharging her.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I did not see Reynolds there at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I never got any explanation from my sister-in-law; I never mentioned it to her—I mentioned it to Mrs. Cahill's brother, and he only laughed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-155" type="surname" value="NOTCUTT"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-155" type="given" value="GEORGE DODCARD"/>GEORGE DODCARD NOTCUTT</persName> </hi>. I live at 57, Riston Street, Rotherhithe—I am a postman; the Grapes tavern has been in my round for 11 years—I remember when the Cahills had the house—I had four deliveries a day, and when I delivered letters there I never saw a barman; I do not know Reynolds.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I do not recollect seeing him as barman—I will not swear that I did not see him at all; I might have seen him as a casual customer—I am not a pensioner; I never was—I might have been entitled to a pension last year; I don't know—I expect to receive one—I have been asked if I would take it by my superior officer, Mr. Sergeant—I dare say complaints have been made against me, but none to prevent my receiving my pension—I have known Tooney for some years; I know Inspector White through his being at the police-station, and my delivering letters there; he has not been there many years—Tooney came to my house about this case; I cannot tell you when it was—I was subpoenaed; he asked me if I recollected delivering letters at the Grapes; I told him "Yes"—I was asked if I had seen a barman there—I said "No"—I do not know Cahill's brother-in-law—I never saw anybody serve except Mr. and Mrs. Cahill.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I delivered letters on an average three times a week at the Grapes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I also used the house for refreshment—I am 63 years of age, and expect to be superannuated next month; I have served the Post-office 20 years last November—the complaints against me were as regards mis delivery, not dishonesty—I have no interest in the Lioensed Victuallers' Association.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-156" type="surname" value="SHEAD"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-156" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHEAD</persName> </hi>. I am 19 years of age—I am the son of Mr. Shead who keeps the Mitre, Downham Road, Kingsland.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I have been fetched here by a clerk—I have had no conversation about this case; I have not heard of my father's cross-examination; my mother kept the keys of the safe when my father was out principally—she had them when he was at home some
<lb/>times—I had the keys when both were out; I do not remember the keys being taken from my mother and given to me when she was not away; I never had them when she was in London.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-157" type="surname" value="RILEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-157" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE RILEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman M</hi> 366). I was called to the Lambeth Police-court to give evidence on behalf' of the prisoner; Mr. Sawyer asked me what I know about the case, but I said I would not state anything further—I had no other communication about it—I was in Court and heard the witnesses—after the witnesses for the defence I was called as witness by Mr. Maitland—I know the Grapes at Rotherhithe Wall; I knew it when Cahill kept it; I used it frequently during his time—it was in the neighbourhood where I lived—I have seen Mr. Cahill and his brother-in-law serving, and Mr. Cahill's wife, but that is all—I have seen Reynolds in front of the bar—I only knew him as a customer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I do not recollect seeing Reynolds any
<lb/>where else; he used to go in the skittle-grounds with beer, and received money for it, but no more than I should do—Cahill told me Reynolds had</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100039"/>
<p>been barman for him before—I was in front of the bar when that remark was made—I have no recollection of that remark being made of Reynolds being barman at another house; nor my saying "George is a handy barman, Cahill"—I said so at the police-court—I was very often at Cahill's when off duty, and on duty only when I had occasion to visit the house—I did not know Cahill dealt in glass bottles—I have known Cahill for three years, but I knew nothing against him till this charge—I did not go with Tooney to Miss Brown's—I have not seen Reynolds assist in the bar; I saw him with his coat off, and in his shirt sleeves, but not in front of the bar—it was when he was playing skittles.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I have not known Cahill for 10 years; as far as I know he bore an excellent character—I know nothing against him—I have not heard how many public-houses he has kept besides the Grapes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I heard of his good character from people in the house—I have never heard licensed victuallers speak of him; it I said "George is a handy barman" that was after the question had been suggested to me—I never suggested it to any living being.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-158" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-158" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-158" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD WHITE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector M</hi>). My station is at Rotherhithe; my special duty is to look after the license and transfer of houses for the district—on the 30th July, 1878, I received notice from Cahill of his application to transfer the Grapes to him—this is a plan of the Grapes (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—on the 19th of August he obtained his protection—his license was transferred on the 25th of September, 1878—I received notice of transfer from Cahill to another from the 30th of April, 1880—the house was closed from March, 1880; I frequently visited the house in the course of my duty from April, 1878—I never saw Reynolds act as barman; I saw Cahill in the house, also in the street collecting cans—I never saw a barman there at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I frequently looked in at the Grapes; I cannot say how often—I have not seen Mrs. Cahill's brother serve; I have seen him in the bar-parlour—I first knew Cahill when he was on my beat—so far as I know he always conducted himself in a proper manner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-159" type="surname" value="THOMAS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-159" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD THOMAS</persName> </hi>. I am a surveyor, of 234, Deptford Road—I made this plan (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>); it gives the perspective elevation—the scale is 4 feet to an inch, the space behind the bar is 9 feet 6 inches by 14 feet—there are three compartments in front of the bar, one 5 feet 1 inch, and the others 7 feet 6 inches from the counter; they are shown on the plan—it is a two story house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BRIERS</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant M</hi>). I have known the Grapes from July, 1878—it was part of my duty to visit the house with several others—I never saw Reynolds in the house; I have seen Cahill, hit wife, and her brother behind the bar—I kept a watch on Reynolds; he drove a horse and cart after I went to Rotherhithe, about two or three months from July, 1878—I did not speak to him—I got a warrant to take Cahill into custody—I went to the Sultan's Head, a beershop in Picton Street, Camberwell; he was serving—I told him it was for conspiring with another man named Reynolds to obtain a situation as barman—he said Reynolds used to work for him, and that he used occasionally to sell glasses, and to serve customers in the skittle-ground.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I first knew Cahill ten or twelve years</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100040"/>
<p>ago at Shoreditch—I never heard anything against him—I also knew him at the Prince of Wales, not at the David and Harp.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I lost sight of him for eight or nine years.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-160" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-160" type="surname" value="TOONEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-160" type="given" value="JAKES"/>JAKES TOONEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer M</hi>). I have known the Grapes about twelve years; I knew it all the time Cahill was there—Reynolds was never employed as barman—I used to see Cahill during 1878 with a horse and cart; he afterwards lived at a private house; then I found him at the Grapes—I took Reynolds into custody on the 12th of last month at 19, Farncombe Street, Bermondsey—I told him I had a warrant for his apprehension for obtaining a situation, with a false character; he said "All right, where is Cahill"—I said Cahill was in custody—he said "All right, I will go with you quiet; I have nothing to fear, for I did live with Cahill at his last, and five weeks at his present house as a barman and nine months at the Grapes; I used to take out glass for him"—after he was committed for trial I made inquiries respecting Brown in consequence of what I heard—I did not suggest her evidence to her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I was not often in the Grapes, not once a month, while Cahill was there—I saw Reynolds at the Crown and at his stables, and at other public-houses, with a cart—I used to pass the Crown to my dinner and see him—if Reynolds was employed at the Grapes I must have seen him—I have never seen him at skittles.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The Crown is about 300 yards from the Grapes—my back bedroom looks into the stables.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-161" type="surname" value="LIPPARD"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-161" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE LIPPARD</persName> </hi>. I keep the Crown public-house in Southwark Park Road, not far from the Grapes—Reynolds and his brother took stables and kept a horse there from about June till November, 1878—he was in and out of my house almost every day during that time as a customer—the last time I saw him was the latter end of 1879—I did not know he had gone to the Mitre—I never conversed with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-162" type="surname" value="WEST"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-162" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WEST</persName> </hi>. I am a cab-driver, and live in Balaklava Road, Ber
<lb/>mondsey—I had a stable in the Glebe Road, near the Crown—I know Reynolds; he had a horse and cart; he paid me 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week for the use of a stable from the beginning of July, 1878, for about five months—I saw him once or twice a day, sometimes more—on one or two occasions he said he had been at the Grapes playing at skittles—I do not know what the horse and trap were for—he sometimes drove out his wife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-163" type="surname" value="VOISEY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-163" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS VOISEY</persName> </hi>. I live in the Southwark Park Road, not far from the Grown—Reynolds stabled his horse with me for about four or five weeks; he used to drive out in a cart—he told me he was a dealer in live stock in the country—I never saw any live stock—I have seen his brother come into the yard.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-164" type="surname" value="EDWARDS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-164" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD EDWARDS</persName> </hi>. I am sanitary inspector of Rotherhithe—I knew the Grapes when it was kept by Cahill from 1878 to 1879, about eighteen months—I visited it officially, also had refreshments there, and passed it many times in the day—I never saw Reynolds there in any capacity—I saw Mrs. Cahill, a person hard of hearing, and once or twice there was a youth there and Cahill himself, but no one else.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I said at the police-court I never saw any one else but Cahill, his wife, and a youth—I think I have seen the lady serve—the youth might have served—I never saw Reynolds serve.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-165" type="surname" value="FULLER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-165" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FULLER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Carpenter, pawnbroker, of 92,</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100041"/>
<p>Rotherhithe Street, next to the Grapes—I have been in his employment 24 years—I remember Cahill coming to the Grapes; he was there about eighteen months from July, 1878—I went in occasionally—I have seen Cahill and a relation of his serve—I believe the relation was Mrs. Cahill's brother—I never saw Reynolds serving.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I did not go to the Grapes every week—I have seen the young man cleaning the windows and the brass outside.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-166" type="surname" value="NOLAN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-166" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN NOLAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman MR</hi> 37). I was told by my inspector to attend the police-court; I was there the last day—I heard witnesses for the defence—I was afterwards examined by Mr. Maitland—I had not given him any information till I was put in the box—I have known the Grapes sixteen or eighteen years—I have been on duty in the neighbourhood since 1860, and actively employed except for two years from 1863 to 10th July, 1865—I knew Cahill when he kept the Grapes; that was about a year and nine months—I visited the house when off duty—I never knew a barman employed there; I never saw Reynolds behind the bar—I knew Mrs. Cahill's brother—I saw Reynolds in the skittle-ground once playing at skittles and drinking the same as others.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. I have not been at the house more than six times—I did not generally use the house—I saw Reynolds bring a pot of ale in the skittle-ground; I saw him in the bar-palour—I have known Cahill ten or twelve years—I know nothing against him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have not seen Cahill continuously for ten or twelve years—I have not made inquiries at Brighton about him—I lost sight of him five or six years after 1865—I said at the police-court I never saw Reynolds draw any malt liquors.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-167" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-167" type="surname" value="MALLAN"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-167" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS MALLAN</persName> </hi>. Cahill lodged at my place four months from April last year—I removed his things from the Grapes to my lodgings—my place is the Sultan.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I took a horse from my place to the Grapes on one occasion for a German to see—I saw Reynolds and Cahill—I do not recollect Reynolds being in the bar, nor who served me—both came out and looked—I would not say Reynolds was not behind the bar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. Cahill went away after he left the Grapes somewhere; I cannot say how long.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I believe Cahill was away a week or two—his things were not taken away—the German came to see the horse about two years ago, a little before Christmas—I do not know whose service Reynolds was in then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GILES</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). I have charge of the licensed houses in the Camberwell district—on 2nd September, 1880, I received notice of transfer of the Sultan beerhouse, Camberwell, to Cahill—the protection was granted to him on 18th September, and the transfer made on the 29th—afterwards Cahill went to the Grapes, Rotherithe Wall, the place he previously kept—that was the address he gave me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-168" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-168" type="surname" value="SQUIRE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-168" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK SQUIRE</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler, and keep the City of York public-house, York Road, King's Cross—on Monday, the 13th September last, I saw this advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Morning Advertiser</hi>: "As barman, a respectable young man, age 23, can assist in the cellar if required. Nine months' good reference from the gentleman about leaving. Direct, M. M., the Sultan, Picton Street, Camberwell"—that was answered—I</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100042"/>
<p>saw Reynolds at my place on the 14th, the day the advertise
<lb/>ment came out—I asked him if he had come in reference to the advertisement—he said "Yes"—my son had written to him—he brought the post-card—I asked him where he had been living—he said the Grapes, Rotherhitbe "Wall, for nine months—I asked him why he left—he said the gentleman had given up the house and did not require him any longer—I asked him who he was with—he said he was stopping at a beer-house with the same gentleman he was with at the Grapes, Mr. Cahill—I went to the Sultan the next morning—I had told Reynolds I should go—he was in the bar cleaning up—I asked for Cahill—Reynolds went to the parlour and called him out—I asked Cahill in Reynolds's presence if Reynolds had lived with him as barman—he said he had for nine months—I asked if he was honest and sober, and he gave me every satisfaction concerning his character, and said that if he had another house he would only be too happy to take him again—neither mentioned Reynolds being at Mr. Shead's, at the Mitre—Cahill said he had been out of business for some time, and that he took that business as a home for his wife, but that he did not do enough for himself, but Reynolds was there clearing up till he could get another situation, and he always treated him as one of his own—I took Reynolds into my service on 14th December, and he remained till the 1st December—I did not like the way he carried on the business nor the way he acted—I was laid up for a fortnight, when I found my takings were not so much—my son saw him putting some brandy into something and told him of it; he repeated it the following morning and my son again saw him—he threw the brandy over the counter and my son told him he would have to leave—when I went down into the parlour I told him I wished him to leave that day week—I did not know he had been employed by Mr. Shead till he was in custody, or I should not have taken him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FILLAN</hi>. Cahill did not say how long Reynolds had been at the Sultan, nor that he went out to sell glass, nor that he was a handy man—I only wanted a barman—I first heard of this matter from the Protection Society, through Mr. Maitland's clerk—I should think I am prosecuting him—Cahill did say he hoped to do business with me in glass—he said he was an independent man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for both the Defendants.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-169" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-169" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-169" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a confectioner, of 36, Union Road, Rother
<lb/>hithe—I knew the Grapes when Mr. Cahill was there—I became acquainted with him at the back end of September or October, 1878, up to December, the second day of the Cattle Show; it was through buy
<lb/>ing some tumblers and other glasses of him which Reynolds brought to my house, and I paid him for them; it was Reynolds who first solicited my custom; I knew him before he was married, and in consequence of what he told me I became a customer at the Grapes on several occasions—I have ordered liquor at the bar and in the skittle ground, and paid for it; Reynolds has served me; Cahill was the last person who served me on the second day of the Cattle Show—I have seen Reynolds six or seven times behind the bar serving, and in the skittle ground, and I have given him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to change—when I heard this charge I became bail for him, knowing his innocence—I was called as a witness at the police-court.</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100043"/>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I have lived in Rotherhithe 20 years—Downham Road, Kingsland, may be four miles from Mr. Shead's place of business—I sell fireworks, and went to the bar and served Mr. Shead's son with some on several occasions—I was at the Mitre perhaps 30 times while Reynolds was barman, and have stayed there perhaps two hours at a time, till it was shut up; I have been there more than twice on the same day on more than two occasions; I went there before Reynolds was barman—this is the only time I have had to do with a criminal court; I have been bail for people who have been drunk, but never till now for people charged on the charge-sheet—I have sworn this, "I don't believe I was in the house above seven or eight times in my life," but I find I went twice more in December—I said that Reynolds was in the habit of visiting me on Sundays on his holidays; I have ridden with him in his cart—I have had a game at skittles twice, or it may be three times, not more; I generally lost, and then Reynolds fetched the drink and took the money—I have said, "I never understood Reynolds was barman, or what he was; he never told me he was a barman; he acted as barman "—he was a servant in Mr. Cahill's employ—it is true that my seven times of going there were in October, 1878, and the back end of September.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> December was the third time I went to purchase glass—Reynolds did not give me to understand that he was a barman, but he acted as barman—I knew him as barman at a beershop before he was married—this is my card (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) as artist in fireworks; E. W. Jones is my partner—I served Mr. Shead's son after the firework time was over and after Reynolds left—I have been 22 years in that house, and 10 years on Rotherhithe Wall, and there is no foundation for the in
<lb/>stiuation that I have been in a criminal court in my life.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I do not know whether Reynolds continued in Mr. Cahill's service—it was in 1879 that I went to Mr. Shead's—Reynolds continued to act for Mr. Cahill up to December, 1878—I never went to the house after that; I had no occasion.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-170" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-170" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-170" type="surname" value="FAULKNER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-170" type="given" value="HENRY FRANCIS"/>HENRY FRANCIS FAULKNER</persName> </hi>. I sell firewood at Rotherhithe—I knew the Grapes before August, 1878, when Mr. Cahill was the proprietor—he sometimes served me, and Reynolds did so several times—shortly after August I was taken seriously ill, and Reynolds brought me wine and spirits from Mr. Cahill, and came up to my bedroom—I understood that he was the barman as long as I knew the house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I lent Cahill 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to go into the house—I did not know the previous landlord; I never went in above four times till Cahill went there—I said "The house was never of much use," but I did not say "Mr. Cahill and his wife might have managed it alone"—I said I thought it was the year 1878, but I really did not take any account—I said that it might have been August or something like that that I saw Reynolds at the house, and that the occasions when I saw him there were covered by two months, and then I was taken ill—I spoke of Reynolds as a travelling barman; I adopted the word; I cannot tell you what that is—I have known Cahill 10 years; a person named Vickers introduced him—I have known Reynolds from a boy; I only know that he was born in the street where I lived—I said "I knew him three and a half years at Garrett's, in Bermondsey, and at the Drummond Arms six years ago—I did not know him at the Blue Coat Boy, Islington—I did not say he was at Kingsland, at Mr. Shears's—I did not know where he went to—I did not say "I think he left there rather suddenly; he did</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100044"/>
<p>not tell me why he left"—I know he was at Mr. Squire's, at King's Cross; I do not know if he got both those places by one character—I signed my deposition—this is my signature to my deposition; it was read over to me before I signed it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have been very ill for the last three months, and con
<lb/>fined to my room some time—I am able to get about when I am carried—I am suffering very much now—Mr. Maitland, the solicitor for the prosecution, cross-examined me at the police-court for about a quarter of an hour—I was told that Mr. Reynolds went to Mr. Shead's, at the Mitre Tavern, Downham Road, Kingsland, but I never saw him there; his father-in-law told me—I heard that he left rather suddenly—I never heard Mr. Maitland ask me if the house at Kingsland was Mr. Shead's; he asked me if I saw Reynolds at the house at Kingsland, and I told him I never did—he said "Did he tell you he was at Mr. Squire's, King's Cross?" I said "Yes"—the Magistrate said "Do you know whether Cahill had a barman?" I said "Yes," and that his name was Ebenezer Reynolds.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I said afterwards that Reynolds was working about the Grapes; sometimes he was waiting on the skittle-alley.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-171" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-171" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-171" type="surname" value="ELLIS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-171" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN ELLIS</persName> </hi>. I live at 67, Salisbury Street, Bermondsey—I remember the Grapes when Cahill was the landlord—I have often been there for my dinner and supper beer—Reynolds has served me—he once gave me a letter to get my sister, who was in a consumption, into the hospital—I saw him there five or six months; the last time was after he gave me the letter—my sister was in the hospital six weeks before she died, and he served me several times after that—she has been dead a year and nine months—this is her memorial card, but I cannot read it (
<hi rend="italic">Dated 31st March</hi>, 1879)—she was in the hospital six weeks, and then went into the infirmary and died—I think Mr. Cahill gave Reynolds the letter for me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I knew the Grapes many years before Mr. Cahill had it—I have lived down the Wall all my life, out I never knew any bar
<lb/>man there—I knew another young man there while Reynolds was there—I don't know whether Mr. Cahills brother was there—I saw Reynolds there a good many times after my sister died—I was not asked to look up this card before I gave my evidence—I went there of my own accord.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I only know Reynolds by going to Cahill's for my beer—I have no interest in this case—I have seen no detective but the one who brought me the summons.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-172" type="surname" value="LOAKES"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-172" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LOAKES</persName> </hi>. I am a cab-driver—I often went to the Grapes when Mr. Cahill was there, and saw Reynolds behind the bar—he often served me, and several times came round to order a cab of me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I said at the police-court that I had seen Reynolds at the Grapes four or five times, and that I often saw Mr. and Mrs. Cahill there without him, and that he looked as if he was the barman—I never went with my cab to Mr. Shead's, the Mitre, Kingsland, on Sundays—I drove Reynolds twice to Moorgate Street Station from 19, Farncomb Street, Bermondsey; I did not fetch him from Kingsland.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-173" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-173" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-173" type="surname" value="COLLINS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-173" type="given" value="GEORGE RICHARD"/>GEORGE RICHARD COLLINS</persName> </hi>. I am a chromo-lithographer, of 26, Albion Street, Rotherhithe—I was Coroner's officer in 1878—I have called at the Grapes many times when Mr. Cahill was there, both before November</p>
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<p>and after—here is an entry in my Coroner's book, by which I find that I went there on 4th or 5th November to summon him on a Jury for an inquest—I have seen Reynolds behind the bar, and he has served me and others with liquor; I have been in the skittle ground, and have seen him bring refreshments there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known the Grapes 24 or 25 years, and have gone there 10 years—Wheeler was there before Cahill, and there was a barman there then, but I don't know his name—I have lived in several places; I was in difficulties; I went to Banstead and Sutton; I heard there were judgments out against me; I was not asked to go to the police-court; I was a volunteer—I only knew Cahill at the Grapes; I knew Reynolds best—I never went to Shead's; I never went to Kingston—I did not know he was at Squire's; he was at Shead's in March or April, 1870—I was not charged with taking the Coroner's money; the charge alluded to the licence fees, which I am responsible for; the Vestry did not insist on my resigning in consequence of my appropriating the fees, but I did resign in 1880; I cannot tell you the month; I was not there to hear whether 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was mentioned as the sum I had appropriated; I sent a letter of resignation to the Vestry and the Coroner; judgments were not then in force against me that I know of, but I heard so, and I went to work at Banstead and Sutton; that was in April or May, 1880; I am going by memory—I did not take No. 1, Paradise Street, concealing my own name; I was put into No. 2, and this is the agreement (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>); it was a fried fish business; I was not turned out, but an action is likely to follow; it is some weeks since I was there last; it was taken in my middle name of Richards; I sunk the Collins.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I was placed there by another person's capital with the hope of doing me good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-174" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-174" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-174" type="surname" value="COLLINS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-174" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE MAY"/>CHARLOTTE MAY COLLINS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—I remem
<lb/>ber the Grapes when Cahill was landlord; I have been served with refreshment there, and have seen Reynolds behind the bar; he has served me at the bar and in the skittle ground.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I lived about two years with Reynolds's mother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-175" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-175" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-175" type="surname" value="GRAY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-175" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD GRAY</persName> </hi>. I am a traveller in mineral waters, of 2, Longfellow Road, Mile End Road—I have known Cahill as landlord of the Grapes, and did business with him all the time he was there, delivering mineral water twice a week; Reynolds has taken the goods of me when nobody else was there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am speaking of the summer of 1878—I have seen Reynolds behind the bar nearer 50 times than five; it must be 20 times; I used to call twice a week; I called for more than 10 weeks in 1878; Reynolds was there for seven or eight months in 1878—he was not behind the bar every time I went; I think I may swear I saw him once a week there, but I do not know that he was never laid up for a week; I was not laid up; it is possible that I may have gone there without seeing him; I was never a month without seeing him—when I had the subpoena last Saturday I carried my mind back to what occurred at the Grapes in 1878—Mr. Knowles kept the house before that; I never saw a barman there then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-176" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-176" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-176" type="surname" value="RICE"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-176" type="given" value="HENEY OLIVER"/>HENEY OLIVER RICE</persName> </hi>. I am a collector to Hanbury and Co., brewers; the Grapes is one of their houses, and unless Cahill had high references they would not have put him on to the premises; I went there every 28</p>
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<p>days to collect; I never saw Mr. Cahill behind the bar, but to the best of my belief Reynolds is the man I have seen there twice, once cleaning the windows, and the second time bringing in a lot of pots from the back part of the house, but I won't swear to him—Cahill took possession of the Grapes on 7th July, 1878; that was the first communication he had with our firm.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> They are Messrs. Hanbury and Co., of Clerkenwell, not Truman, Hanbury, and Co.—it is a fully-licensed house; my prin
<lb/>cipals have been interested in it sir or seven years—Cahill succeeded Joseph Knowles—it is not a small house; I should think the trade in beer and spirits is 45
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a month—I know nothing about soda-water—the rent was 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., it is now 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—no barman is kept now—I do not know Mrs. Cahill's brother—when the prosecution came about, Cahill naked me if I recollected being there; I said that on two occasions I saw a man there, but could not swear to him—my firm are not brewing now, Truman's are brewing for them—I never saw Reynolds behind the bar, nobody but Mr. and Mrs. Cahill.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-177" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-177" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-177" type="surname" value="HAYES"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-177" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT HAYES</persName> </hi>. I am a Custom-house clerk and insurance agent, of 100, Albany Road—I have been to the Grapes while Cahill was landlord, and I believe Reynolds was behind the bar and served me, and took my money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am sure I saw him behind the bar—I went every morning, but did not always see him—I saw him in August or Septem
<lb/>ber, 1878; I only recollect those two months—I was first asked to recollect about a fortnight ago—I worked at Home's, the wharfinger's, with Cahill as a fellow-servant—I had an account at the South-eastern branch of the Central Bank of London; I will not swear that I did not pass a cheque after it was closed; I was not aware it was closed; this cheque bears my signature, and I believe I got 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it from the landlord of the Water
<lb/>man's Arms; I told him that it was as good as the Bank of England; I had not had letters to tell me that cheques were being presented and dishonoured, and that the account was closed; I did not get a number of cheques dishonoured before that; I dare say I have paid three cheques since, which I gave before August, 1878, but I can only recollect one; I cannot tell on what day it was dishonoured, but just about this date; a day or two elapsed between my making the cheque and putting on it "Dishonoured;" I have never paid that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> At the time I drew that cheque I was not aware that I had overdrawn my account at the bank—I have not been written to for the payment of this cheque, and have not up to this moment had the means of knowing that it was presented after my account was closed—I have not seen it since I gave it—I have never received any notice from the bank that my account was closed—the other cheque which I have paid was, I think, for 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—to the best of my knowledge I never drew any cheques but these two after my account was overdrawn—the publican who gave me the money for the cheque has never asked me for it—I am still an insurance agent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-178" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-178" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-178" type="surname" value="RAFFERTY"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-178" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES RAFFERTY</persName> </hi>. I am a board-ship fireman—I have known the Grapes all the time Cahill kept it—I have seen Reynolds behind the bar six or seven times; he has served me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-179" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-179" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-179" type="surname" value="POCOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-179" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY POCOCK</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler, of Drummond Road, Ber
<lb/>mondsey—I bought glasses and bottles of Cahill on two or three occasions—Reynolds</p>
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<p>brought them to me three times on a barrow or truck—he did not receive the money—my place is about three-quarters of a mile from Cahill's.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am the son of Mr. Pocock, of the Waterman's Arms—I did not see him give four sovereigns for the dishonoured cheque, but I have seen the man who got the money; I have never asked him for it—I do not know that dozens of applications have been made to Hayes to get the money he obtained from my father; that is my father's business—he never authorised me to ask for it, nor did I ever hear him ask for it—he is not here—I don't know where the glass came from; I had some in January, 1879, and some in March; no, all the bottles which are mentioned were in November or December, 1879—I do not mean 1878—he came to me in 1879 and brought half a gross of bottles—I do not persist in saying that he brought the bottles to me in December, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> It was after January, 1879—I cannot say whether it was in November, 1878; it was just before Christmas, and it cannot be three Christmases ago, because I was not there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-180" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-180" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-180" type="surname" value="HUNTER"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-180" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL HUNTER</persName> </hi>. I keep the Adam and Eve, Rotherhithe—I knew Cahill as landlord of the Grapes, and have had dealings with him in glass; Reynolds brought it—it was some time in January, 1879—Cahill gave me this receipt, dated 6th January, 1879—I had two subsequent transactions with him, but cannot find the receipts.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Reynolds came to me three times in the latter part of August, 1879, but only once with goods—he came when this receipt was given, and I paid him—I have been at the Grapes three or four times.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">in reply put in the deposition of Henry Francis Faulkner, which was read.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18810110-181-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on the Counts for conspiracy to obtain the situation by a false character, not on the Count for conspiracy to steal.</hi> </rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CAHILL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18810110-181-punishment-17" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-181-18810110 t18810110-181-punishment-17"/>Two Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">REYNOLDS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18810110-181-punishment-18" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-181-punishment-18" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-181-punishment-18" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-181-18810110 t18810110-181-punishment-18"/>Six Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, January</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Grove.</hi> </p>
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<p>182.
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<interp inst="def1-182-18810110" type="surname" value="SWAN"/>
<interp inst="def1-182-18810110" type="given" value="SARAH JANE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SARAH JANE SWAN</hi> (25)</persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18810110-182-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="kill"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-182-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="infanticide"/> for, and charged on the Coroner's Inquisition with, the wilful murder of her newly-born child.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORACE AVORY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<rs id="t18810110-182-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-182-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-182-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="lesserOffence"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of Manslaughter.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18810110-182-punishment-19" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-182-punishment-19" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-182-punishment-19" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-182-18810110 t18810110-182-punishment-19"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, January</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1881.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>183.
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<interp inst="def1-183-18810110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-183-18810110" type="age" value="32"/>
<interp inst="def1-183-18810110" type="surname" value="ROFFEY"/>
<interp inst="def1-183-18810110" type="given" value="HENRY"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY ROFFEY</hi> (32)</persName>
<rs id="t18810110-183-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18810110-183-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-183-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Feloniously forging and uttering an order for the payment of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEVEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. FILLAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HEWICK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-183" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-183" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-183" type="surname" value="BROOKS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-183" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BROOKS</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Sidney Smith, of 64, High Street, Kingsland—on 13th November, about 6 p.m., the prisoner came in, and said "Can you oblige me with change for a cheque for Mr. Merton, as he</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="188101100048"/>
<p>is too late for the bank?" and gave me this cheque. (
<hi rend="italic">This was on the London and Provincial Bank for</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">payable to John Stevens or bearer, and signed Charles Merton.</hi>) I said "Yes," and went across to Mr. Merton, who came over, and said that it was not his signature, and gave the prisoner in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He did not know that I had sent for Mr. Merton; it was only across the road—he got a little bit fidgety towards the last; he looked guilty, but he did not attempt to go out because there were three of us—I did not know Mr. Merton's signature, but I had heard some
<lb/>thing which made me suspicious; I am not aware that a man was waiting outside for him—he did not say "Will you oblige me with change for this cheque of Mr. Merton's?"—he said "for Mr. Merton, as he is too late for the bank"—I did not know the prisoner before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I had heard at 4.30 that Mr. Merton had pent for a cheque-book, and that a second cheque-book was sent for, and some false cheques were going about, and that was why I stopped the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-184" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-184" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-184" type="surname" value="MERTON"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-184" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES MERTON</persName> </hi>. I am a tobacconist, of 2, Eidley Road, Dalston—Mr. Brooks sent for me, and showed me this cheque; it is not signed by me or by my authority; this other cheque (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is also a forgery—a policeman went into the shop with me, and the prisoner, who was there, said that he would go to the station and give all the information he possibly could, and I hear that he did so, but I left.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have no reason to suspect what man it is who has been dealing with my name.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18810110-name-185" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18810110-name-185" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-185" type="surname" value="JEFFREYS"/>
<interp inst="t18810110-name-185" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR JEFFREYS</persName> </hi>. I am a cashier at the London and Provincial Bank, Kingsland branch—on 13th November a genuine order in Mr. Merton's writing was brought for a cheque-book for Mr. Merton, which was supplied—shortly afterwards this order scribbled in pencil on an envelope was produced, "Please stop number of cheque-book just sent. I put it on the counter, and it was stolen; please send another of 50 cheques by bearer"—that is not Mr. Merton's writing, but the tale seemed so plausible that we acted upon it, but took the precaution to send the second cheque-book payable to bearer instead of to order, because they are of a different colour; that was about 1 o'clock—I do not know whether it was brought by man, woman, or child—about half an hour afterwards a boy presented the first cheque out of the second-book, filled up for 22
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I did not like the look of the signature, and had the boy detained while I went to see Mr. Merton—I subsequently made up a packet of coppers for the boy, and instructed him; I followed him to where he was to meet some one at a public-house five minutes' walk off, but the person was gone—this cheque for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. is the second cheque out of the same book.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I told the boy that I should follow him, and he went to a place where there was no man; I do not think he took me to a wrong place, or that he was an a