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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>WHETHAM, MAYOR.</p>
<p>EIGHTH SESSION, HELD MAY 26TH, 1879.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>ALEXANDER BUCKLER,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
<p>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS & SONS, 119, CHANCERY LANE, E.C.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, April 28th, 1879, and following days,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON. SIR</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES WHETHAM</hi>, Knt.,
<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-1" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MELLOR</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of the Queen's Bench Division of the High Court of Justice; The Hon. Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES FITZJAMES STEPHEN</hi>, Knt., one of the Barons of the Exchequer Division of the High Court of Justice;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS QUESTED FINNIS</hi>, Esq., Sir
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-3" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS GABRIEL</persName> </hi> Bart., and Sir
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-4" type="given" value="ANDREW"/>ANDREW LUSK</persName> </hi>, Bart., M.P., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-5" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANCIS WYATT TRUSCOTT</hi>, Knt.,
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WHETHAM, MAYOR. EIGHTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLYOD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—when he left I followed him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-26" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-26" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-26" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER BASE</persName> </hi>. I manage the Bull Inn Tap—Spring called my attention to a bad florin—I asked the prisoner where he got it—ho said that he did</p>
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<p>not know—I asked if he had any more; he said" No"—I broke the florin in half, kept one piece, and gave him the other—after he was served again I went out and followed him about 20 yards round the corner, where be touched Costello on the shoulder, who was standing still, and who then fol-lowed him 40 yards down Middlesex Street, they joined and walked side by side, and then turned into a place which is no thoroughfare—they came out in about 10 minutes, and I followed them into Bishopsgate Street, and at Houndsditch they came upon Adams, who was standing at the corner—I saw them putting their hands together, and Williams, I think it was, received some change, but I could not see it—they seemed to be hiding each other—they walked down Liverpool Street side by side, and I pointed them out to Cusick—I followed Adams and pointed him out to Foster, who took him, he ran away going to the station, but he was brought back—I gave the broken piece of florin to Cusick.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-27" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-27" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 880). On March 26th Bass called my attention to the three prisoners, who were in conversation in Liverpool Street—they separated, and I followed Costello and Williams, and said to Williams, "Where is the two-shilling piece you uttered at the Bull Tap?"—he said, "I have not got it, I left it at the public-house"—I said, "Hare you any more on you?"—he said "No"—I said, "I shall take you both in custody, for I believe you have counterfeit coin in your possession"—Lord came up, and we took them to the station—I searched Williams, and found a good half-crown, and Costello had a good florin—I saw 15 bad florins, 28
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver, and 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze found on Adams.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You said at the station, "I know nothing about either of the prisoners; I met them and asked them the way to the Great Eastern Railway; remember, there is no bad money found on me"—when you and Williams were close together, your coat was hanging on the bar in front of the dock; it had been taken off to search you—Adams was about a yard off—I do not say that he attempted to put anything into your coat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I took two of them into the charge-room together—I had hold of Costello, and Lord of Williams—they did not both go in at the same time, but they were close together, and I believe Costello was first—I do not think one of them would have attempted to pass anything to the other without my seeing it—Lord was nearer to Adams than I was, and between Costello and Adams—I was standing between Adams and Costello, and Williams was alongside of Costello-three officers stood behind three pri'soners, but they moved in the dock as they were searched—I got to the station with my prisoner first, and the others were brought in five to seven minutes afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN LORD</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 960). I took Williams in Liverpool Street, and said "I shall take you to the station"—he said "Very good n—I saw him take his left hand from his left trousers pocket, and said "What have you there?"—he said "Never mind what I have got"—I held his hand, he opened it and gave me this bad florin (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—he and Costello were placed in the dock ten minutes before Adams came in—Costello was put into the dock first on the right and then shifted, and Williams was put to the far end of the dock to be measured; Costello was then brought back to his first place on the left, and after he was searched his coat was left hanging on the rail of the dock; Adams was then brought from the muster room into the charge room, where the dock is, and as he entered I</p>
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<p>saw his right hand in his right-hand trousers pocket, and he tried to pass these 11 bad coins (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) into Costello's coat, which was hanging there—I took them from his hand and gave them to Foster—Costello was looking at him and could see him do it; he was between Adams and Williams, in the centre.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I mentioned the coins on the first occasion before the Magistrate, but forgot to say anything about your coat till the second remand.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-28" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FOSTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 122). Bass called my attention to Adams; I followed him into Blomfield Street and said "I am informed that you have got some bad money in your possession, I must take you in custody; you will have to go with me to the station"—he said "Me got bad money 1 pooh! pooh! I am quite ready to go with you"—in Bishopsgate Street he ran across the road, I ran after him, and he was stopped almost directly—I took him to the station, and as I was about to search him, Lord handed me this packet containing 11 counterfeit coins, which he said he had taken from him, and on further searching him I found a packet con-taining these four bad florins in his coat tail pocket, and 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver—I heard Lord on the third remand make a statement about money passing from Adams to Costello.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not see anybody put money into your coat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-29" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-29" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am in the employ of the Mint—this is a portion of a bad florin, and this fragment found on Williams is bad and from the same mould—these 15 coins are bad, and two of them are from the same mould as the former—they were all mixed together when I saw them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Costello's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "On the afternoon of 26th I met this man, Williams, and asked him to show me the way to the station; he went into a public-house, I waited for him; he came out, touched me by the coat, and said "Come on." We went together to Liverpool Street, where the policeman took us in custody. He is a perfect stranger to me."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-30" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-30" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-30" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. (The Prisoner). On the afternoon of 26th March I met Costello at the corner of Houndsditch; he said "Which is the way to Liverpool Street station?"—I said "Wait a minute, I am only just going down here, and I will show you when I come back"—I then went into the Bull tap, where I tendered the florin, and when I came out I saw him waiting, and I said "Now, come on, I will show you"—we then went down Middlesex Street and down a labyrinth of turnings, and finding there was no thoroughfare we had to come back again, and took the most direct way to the station—we met Adams and I spoke to him while Costello stood by—I' said "Come on," and went down the station to show him the road he wanted, because there are two, and going down the incline we were accosted by a constable, who charged us with passing counterfeit coin—Costello said "I have no coin, you can search me if you like"—he knew nothing what
<lb/>ever of the errand I was going on to the public-house—I was charged with uttering counterfeit coin, and about ten minutes afterwards Adams was brought in—that was the first time I ever saw Costello in my. life.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>. I met him about twenty yards from the corner of Houndsditch, between the church and the Bull tap—I did not explain to him where I was going—Costello took no notice while I spoke to</p>
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<p>Adams—Adams passed something to me; it was a counterfeit florin, and it was found on me when I was taken—I do not believe Costello saw it pass; he might have been looking that way—Adams went away; he only went two or three steps with us—Costello was on my right and Adams on my left—we had no conversation about these pieces.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-31" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-31" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-31" type="surname" value="ADAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-31" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ADAMS</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner</hi>). On the afternoon of 26th March Costello and Williams came up to me at the top of Houndsditch—Costello had no conversation with me—I had never seen him before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I passed something to Williams—Costello was then on the other side, not near me; I do not think he saw what was passed, I should not allow him—it was between Liverpool Street and the church—we could not see the railway station from that corner; it is near the end of Liverpool Street—if you cross over at the corner of Liverpool Street you can see the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner in his defence stated that he had only been nine weeks in London; that he met Williams and asked him the way to Liverpool Street Station, who said that he was going there; that he waited for Williams while he went into a public-house, and that afterwards they met Adams, but that until then both prisoners were strangers to him.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">PERALCE COSTELLO</hi> </persName> was again indicted
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-33" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Fifteen Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-34" type="surname" value="ADAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-34" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>ADAMS</persName> </hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">Twelve Years' Penal Servitude.</hi>[Both defendants were tried and had their judgements respited in the last session. See p.6]</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLYOD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-36" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-36" type="surname" value="SKEEF"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-36" type="given" value="ESTHER"/>ESTHER SKEEF</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps an oil and colour shop at 6, John Street, Marylebone—on Saturday night, 3rd May, about 9.15, I served the prisoner with some soap and soda, which came to 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a florin—I gave her the change and she left—I had laid the florin on the counter, and it was not out of my sight—I showed it to my husband, who said it was bad—I went out and saw the prisoner being served in Mr. Harvey's shop, about five minutes' walk off—I saw her pass a coin, and said "You have been into my shop and paid a bad 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece"—she said "No, I am a respectable married woman, and my husband is waiting outside"—Mr. Harvey said that the coin was bad—she said she-was not aware of it——he sent for a policeman, and she was given in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not see her in the street before she went into Mr. Harvey's—she was 100 yards in front of me when she went in—I did not say before the Magistrate, "I don't think I have mistaken the prisoner for some one else"—I followed her from her general appearance.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I did not notice her dress, but she had a quantity of hair down her back and a black hat—I stood at the door watching her, and saw her side face—I believe she wore a black dress, and I noticed her style—the coin first laid on the counter, and then my husband had it in his hand.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-37" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-37" type="surname" value="SKEEF"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-37" type="given" value="FREDERICK GEORGE"/>FREDERICK GEORGE SKEEF</persName> </hi>. I am the husband of the last witness, and saw her serving the prisoner, who passed me when I was turning on the lights outside—I also saw her come out, and saw which way she went—she</p>
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<p>had a black silk dress; I am sure the prisoner is the woman—my wife showed me a bad coin; I took possession of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-38" type="surname" value="HARVEY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-38" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN HARVEY</persName> </hi>. I keep an oil and colour shop at 53, Crawford Street, Marylebone—on 3rd May, between 9 and 10, the prisoner bought soap, pepper, and other things, which came to 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—while my daughter was serving her Mrs. Skeef came in and said to her, "You have been in my shop and paid a bad 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece"—she said, "l am a respectable woman, and my husband is outside"—my daughter handed*me a florin, and I bent it in the tryer and said, "Well, at all events this it a bad one"—the prisoner said, "If it is I am Act aware of it"—I gave her in custody—this is the florin (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>); it is bent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-39" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-39" type="surname" value="HARVEY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-39" type="given" value="LUCY"/>LUCY HARVEY</persName> </hi>. I assist in my father's shop—on 3rd May, between 9 and 10 p.m., I served the prisoner with some soap and other things, which came to 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she began counting coppers first, and then said she had not enough, and handed me a florin—I was counting the change, but did not hand it to the prisoner, as Mrs. Skeef came in and stated that the prisoner had passed bad money in her shop—I then handed the florin to my father—the prisoner denied being in Mr. Skeef's shop, and said that her husband was outside, but she did not call him in—my father found the coin was bad and gave her is charge with the coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When I took the florin I put it on the counter just above the till—I never mixed it with any other coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-40" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-40" type="surname" value="HILL"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-40" type="given" value="MATHEW"/>MATHEW HILL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 40). I was called to Mr. Harvey's shop, and said to the prisoner "Where did you get the money from?" she said she took it from the till before she left home—it was then said that she had been in Mr. Skeef's shop in John Street, and passed something—she said "No, I was not in John Street at all to-night"—I took one coin off the counter, and Mrs. Skeef fetched the other—going to the station the prisoner said "I am a respectable woman and my husband is waiting to take me home by train; I have come to do my shopping"—she said at the police-court "I and my husband had a word or two tonight and I said I would go home alone"—she is married.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. She gave a correct name and address, and I found that her husband is a gasfitter and bellhanger in Westbourne Park.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-41" type="surname" value="BONNER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-41" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK BONNER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant D</hi> 20). I took the charge at the station—the prisoner said "It is untrue respecting the woman; I gave the man a two-shilling piece, but did not know it was bad until he told me so"—I found this purse in her hand with three half-crowns, a florin, a threepenny piece, and 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze in it, all good, and she had this empty basket.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The shilling and the threepenny piece were in a com
<lb/>partment shut up by themselves.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-42" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These florins are both bad—there is a good deal more tin in them than would be used by gasfitters—the coins do not soil when the metal has been overheated—it is grain tin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Counterfeit coins are generally made from pewter pots, but there is tin in most of them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner received a good character</hi>.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-46" type="given" value="THORNE"/>MR. THORNE COLE</persName> </hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-47" type="given" value="JOSHUA"/>JOSHUA DOWLING</persName> </hi>. I am deputy superintendent registrar of births, deaths, and marriages for the district of Chelsea—I produce the original declaration made by Arthur James Lange on his marriage with Sarah Ann Hibbert at my office, dated 24th January, 1878—he describes himself as 21 years of age—I was one of the witnesses to his signature—I do not recognise the defendant—the declaration was filled up by me—he gave me the particulars—I read it over to him; it is my invariable practice to do so, so that I am sure I did it in this case.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I have no recollection whatever of this particular case—the lady is described as 22 years of age—the declarent gave me the particulars—I don't remember either of the parties.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-48" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-48" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SANSOM</persName> </hi>. I am the registrar of marriages in the Chelsea district—I have an entry in my register-book of a marriage on 26th of January, 1878, between Arthur James Lange and Sarah Ann Hibbert—it is my own writing (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>)—the marriage was by licence—I have it here—the parties signed the register.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I have not the slightest knowledge of the parties—the fathers of both parties were stated to be dead.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-49" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-49" type="given" value="REGINALD"/>REGINALD LEMPRIERE</persName> </hi>. I am now residing temporarily at the British Hotel, Cockspur Street—I did reside at 8, Melina Place, Grove End Road, N.W., up to a recent period—I had a 21 years'lease of the house; the furniture was mine—I came into negotiation with the defendant as to taking my house and furniture—I was on the point of going abroad—I received one or more letters from him, and I have seen him write—I recognise his handwriting in this declaration—I believe the signature to be his, also the signature in the register.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. He signed his name at my house when he was in nego
<lb/>tiation with me; that was the only time I ever saw him write—I had never seen him before that negotiation—he proposed to take a lease of my house, with the option of purchasing the furniture in 18 months for 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I agreed to that on the faith of the representations he made to me—I have been called to the Bar—I practised for a short time; I have never had the good fortune to put questions—the agreement was put into a formal shape by my solicitor, duly executed, sealed, and delivered—the rent was to be 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a month, paid in advance—7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid for coal and other things—the defendant went into possession of the house on the lease and agreement—he did not pay the 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the day he went in; he did within a day or two—the March rent was paid, and the April and May rent was tendered—I never wanted to get the money for the furniture paid down—on March 20th I wrote to him requesting him to give up possession and pay the costs of the lease before the Thursday—that was after I had seen him and asked whether he was a minor—I got information on that subject about a week after he went into the house—on 23rd I wrote, stating, "I am willing to make an</p>
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<p>effort to settle the question at issue between us;" that was, that he should turn out of the house and give me back possession; that was the only ques
<lb/>tion between us—I also said, "If you think you are able and are also willing to promise to pay me the amount of the purchase-money, 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., on the 10th of next month, and will undertake to come to an arrangement with Messrs. Todd and Dennis for the costs in the course of to-morrow, I, on my part, am willing to hand you over the lease and place confidence in your
<hi rend="italic">bond fides</hi> in the whole transaction"—I had ascertained about his minority 10 days before that—if he had done what I asked he would have remained my tenant, I don't know about not hearing of this prosecution—I told my solicitors if he did not give up possession they were to issue a writ in Chancery to set aside the lease—I wrote to him on March 29th that it he would pay the 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and the costs I would accept him as tenant—I had had a personal interview with him then—he told me he was coming into 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from his trustees.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He told me that he was under age—I presented a cheque to him, which was not honoured—I told him I had come to speak to him about a complaint that his neighbours had made to me, that they were an
<lb/>noyed by himself and his wife calling "Murder?" and using bad language in the garden, and the smashing of crockery—I showed him the cheque and said I hoped he would go and settle the matter with my solicitors, it was very unpleasant not to have the costs paid as he had stipulated—he had given this cheque for them—he said, "It will be all right, I will go and see my solicitor, and it will be settled at once"—I then asked him whether he was of age—he looked confused and said he was not—he said, "I know you cannot bind me, but I can hold you"—before he went into possession I saw the certificate of marriage—if I had known he was a year and ten months under age I would not have allowed him to go into the place—he told me had 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year, and his wife had 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week from her father—I subsequently heard him swear that he was a person of no means whatever—that was at the Marylebone Police-court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PRITCHARD</hi>. Yesterday evening I saw Mrs. Lange, the prisoner's mother; she has come here under subpoena—I did not ask her to com
<lb/>promise the matter—I did not say that I only took these proceedings for the purpose of getting Mr. Lange to buy the furniture, thinking he would settle the matter—I did not say if she would guarantee me 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and all expenses that I would withdraw from this prosecution—I said I hoped it would not be necessary to take the affair to trial—I said if they would make me a proper restitution of my property I should be very happy indeed to with-draw from the prosecution as far as possible; I was extremely sorry to prosecute him, and it went against me to do so—I did not say that I did it on public grounds—I said if her son had come forward at any time when the matter was at the police-court and offered to restore me my property and make me proper amends for the damage and loss he had caused me—the cheque that was dishonoured was for 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for Todd and Dennis's charges for preparing the lease and inventory—it was an order on Mr. Jenkins, the prisoner's solicitor, and Mr. Jenkins said he had no cash.
<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-50" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN LANGE</persName> </hi>. I am a widow and live at Newcastle-on-Tyne—I am the prisoner's mother—he was born on 9th October, 1858—his father's</p>
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<p>name was Carl Frederick Henry Lange—I do not know when he was married—I am one of the trustees under my husband's will.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I do not approve of this prosecution—I knew of my son's marriage soon afterwards—I have allowed him 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year—my eldest son is the acting trustee—the prisoner will come into some property in October; I cannot tell the amount—Mr. Lempriere spoke to me yesterday; he said if the trustees would guarantee the rent for the 21 years, or give him a sum of 601. and pay all expenses, he would be glad to stop the case.</p>
<p>
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<p>526.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALEXANDER JONES</hi> (41)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from the person of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18790526-526-offence-1 t18790526-name-54"/>James Holmes</persName>, having been before convicted.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Three Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18790526-527-offence-1 t18790526-name-56"/>William Philip Bacchus</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THORNE COLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM PHILIP BACCHUS</hi>. I am a compositor and live at 15, Ever
<lb/>sholt Street, Oakley Square—on 1st December, at 11.20 at night, I was in Seymour Street, Euston Square, going home—I was overtaken by three men, one of them took hold of my right wrist and one of the left; I thought at first they might be friends of mine—the third man was behind—I received a push somehow or other in the struggle—I had a kick or blow "on the ankle and fell down—I was dragged along the pathway—I felt the hands of the two men in my pockets, and I lost 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., a tobacco pouch, and a knife—I became insensible—when I came to I found myself at the hospital—my leg was broken and my foot was afterwards amputated—I saw the two men at my side, I could not see the one behind me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I said at the police-court "I cannot say which of the three men kicked me; I could not see the prisoner; one of the men was behind me."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-57" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-57" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-57" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MCCALL</persName> </hi>. I am a chairmaker and live at 54, Clarendon Street—on the night of 1st December, about 11.30, I was going along Seymour Street—I saw the prisoner and two others standing round Mr. Bacchus, who was lying on the pavement—I gave evidence here in February, when two of the men, Wainwright and Phillips, were tried—I saw Wainwright and Phillips drag Mr. Bacchus across the road, and the prisoner following about 2 yards behind—I saw Wainwright put his hand in Mr. Bacchus's right-hand pocket; some money dropped out—Mr. Bacchus fell down with his foot under him—the prisoner picked up some of the money, and gave a private whistle, and Wainwright left Mr. Bacchus and went down Charles Street with the prisoner—the other two men went down Charles Street—I assisted Mr. Bacchus, and he was taken to the hospital—I saw nothing more of the prisoner till he was in custody on 26th April—I then saw him at the House of Detention—I have no doubt he is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When I first saw Mr. Bacchus he was sitting on the ground—I was walking along on the other side of the street—the two men put their hands in his pockets as they dragged him along—I and Phillips</p>
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<p>took him to the hospital—I can't say the day I saw the prisoner in the House of Detention—one of the detectives in the case took me there—I was taken to seven different cells—one of the warders opened the doors for me—the police constables were not near me, they were downstairs—I had no conversation with the constable on the way—when I saw the prisoner in the cell I said he was the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The warder took me to the different cells, and opened one at a time; the prisoner was the last of the seven; I recognised him directly—on the night in question I was looking at him about a quarter of an hour, I stared at him quite hard—I thought they looked rather suspicious characters.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-58" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-58" type="surname" value="GILBY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-58" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GILBY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 472). I know the prisoner very well—I also knew Phillips, who was convicted in February; he was known as Bob Phillips—I did not know Wainwright till that time—on Sunday night, 1st December, about 11 o'clock, I was on duty in Euston Road, and saw Phillips, Wainwright, and the prisoner standing at the corner of Seymour Street—they went along Seymour Street—I had known Phillips and the prisoner before as companions.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I gave evidence on the trial of Phillips and Wainwright—I then said, "I noticed three men standing at the corner of Seymour Street; I know two of them."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The two I knew were Phillips and the prisoner—I was not able to find the prisoner till he was taken into custody. Charles Dodd (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector Y</hi>). On 22nd April I took the prisoner into custody at the Grecian Theatre on another charge—as we were in the cab he said, "What do you want me fori is it for that affair with Boh Phillips? if so I don't think you will do much with that; it is too far back"—I said, "No, it is for breaking into dwellings in the parish of Marylebone"—I knew him before, and Phillips also—I have seen them together many times—he also said in the cab, "Mr. Dodd, I have 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; can you be squared? take 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and let us get out of the cab"—I made no reply to that—Otway was with me In the cab, and the prisoner said to him "Take 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; won't that do, Otway"—Otway replied, "Not for 80."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. Underwood was also in the cab—I took McCall to the House of Detention—I told him the name of the person who was in custody—I did not accompany him to the cell—a warder took him round. John Otway (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant Y</hi>). I was with Inspector Dodd, the prisoner, and Underwood—the prisoner said he had lit, in his pocket, and asked us if we could be squared—Dodd made no answer—he then looked across to me, and said "Will you take 8, Otway?"—I said "Not for 80." William Henry Copley. I was house surgeon at University College Hospital when Mr. Bacchus was brought there with a fractured foot; it. afterwards became necessary to amputate it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-59" type="surname" value="DODD"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-59" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES DODD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The charge against Wainwright and Phillips was robbery with violence—Wainwright was sentenced to six months' imprisonment with hard labour, and Phillips to two years with hard labour.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>528.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">R. COOK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-61" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE UPWARD</persName> </hi>. I keep the Cranbourne Tavern, St. Martin's Lane—on 26th April, about 12.15 am., the prisoner came in and asked my sister for a pint of 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. ale; he gave her a half-crown; she turned to me and said in his presence, "This is a bad half-crown, is it not?"—I said "Yes," and took it from her, bent it in the tester, and told the prisoner I could not take it—he gave me another bad one without taking up the first—I said "This is bad likewise"—he made no reply, and I gave him in custody with the coins—my sister is not well and cannot appear.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-62" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HAMMERTON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman C</hi> 281). The prisoner was given into my custody—I searched him on the spot, and found 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him—he then said, "Well, I know I had one bad half-crown; if I have any more about me somebody must have put them in my pocket"—he gave an address which I cannot find—I received these coins from Upward—the prisoner appeared to have been drinking, but he knew perfectly well what he was about.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-63" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi> These two half-crowns are bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner in his Statement before the Magistrate, and also in his Defence, said that he received the coins for gridirons which he sold in the street, and did not know they were had.</hi> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">R. COOK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-65" type="given" value="SAMUEL HUGH"/>SAMUEL HUGH M'REA</persName> </hi>. I am a draper of 47, Ossulton Street, St. Pancras—on 30th April, about 6.30. the prisoner came in and said, "I want a cheap pair of socks"—I showed him some marked 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and he put down a florin; I took it up and pitched it farther on the counter for my wife to give change, which she did, and the prisoner left—I saw my wife put it into the till, and having a little suspicion went to take it out, and found three good florins and this bad one (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), which had a peculiar ring, and I kept it in my pocket—I had noticed the same ring when the prisoner tendered his florin, but being busy did not stop to examine it—the prisoner came again the next evening, about 6.30, and said, "I want a cheap towel"—I said "I have none; can I serve you with anything else?"—he said "No," and left the shop—I walked to the door and saw him cross the road and recross; I followed him to Phoenix Street, where he turned the corner and joined Esther Webster (
<hi rend="italic">See next case</hi>)—they went through Clarendon Street into Skevington Street, where the prisoner went into Mr. Williams's, a tobacconist, and Webster crossed the road and stood on the opposite side waiting at a shop window—Wilson was in the shop some time; he came out, but went back and came out again in a minute or so and joined her—I went into Williams's shop and made a communication, and followed the</p>
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<p>two prisoners into Eversholt Street—they were both'walking together; Wilson left Webster, and went into Mr. Secombe's shop, and Webster waited ten or twelve doors away—I spoke to Wtrd, and we went to Mr. Secombe's shop, and as Wilson came out we went in—I afterwards went with Ward to Mornington Crescent and saw the prisoner join Webster—they went to Arlington Road or Street, Webster a little in advance, and a constable detained the prisoner, and told me to stay with him while he went after the woman, who had got a few yards distant—I stayed with the prisoner, who said "What does this all mean?" or "What is it for? I don't understand"—I said "You will know when the constable brings the female prisoner back"—when he brought her back the prisoner said, "I do not know her or any one for miles round"—he volunteered that—I said, "I charge him with attempting to pass bad money"—he said, "I cannot under
<lb/>stand what it is about"—I gave the coin to the inspector.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I could not charge you with the offence on April 30, but I should have detained you if you had passed a bad coin on 1st May; I could not say that the first coin was the one tendered by you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-66" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. I am a news agent and tobacconist, of 14, Steb
<lb/>bington Street—on 1st May, about 6.46 p.m., my wife served the prisoner with some tobacco; he put down a florin, she gave him the change, and he left—my attention was called to the coin, and I found it was bad—I went out and tapped him on his shoulder; two minutes had not elapsed; I said "You are wanted back in the shop"—when I got him back—my wife said, "This is a bad one"—he said "I was not aware of it; I am very sorry"—she said "It is, and you must give me that money and the tobacco back"—he did so, and said he had not done any work for seven weeks, and it was all the change he had got—he took the florin back—I examined the edge of it, and did not approve of the stamp on the edge—it was not marked, and I should not know it again—I did not ring it—M'Rea came in two minutes afterwards and spoke to me, and I went out and came back with a constable—I afterwards identified the prisoner at the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-67" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. On 1st May the prisoner gave me a florin for half an ounce of tobacco—I gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and put it in the till, but I had no other there—I found it was bad a few minutes afterwards, and spoke to my husband, and the prisoner was called back—I told him he had given me a bad florin—he said that he was very sorry, but he was not aware of it—he gave me my change back and the tobacco, and I gave him the florin—I tried it with my teeth—I cannot identify this florin, but there is a small mark on it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-68" type="given" value="MARION"/>MARION MARCHANT</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Secombe, a draper, of 33, Eversholt Street—on 1st May, between 6 and 7 p.m., the prisoner came in and said "I want two pairs of paper cuffs"—I served him—they came to 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he put down a florin—I took it to Mrs. Secombe, who said to bin? "Have you any smaller change?"—he said "Have you any twopenny three farthing towels?"—she said "I have some at 3 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—he said "Then I will take one," and asked for some pins for the farthing, as the articles amounted to 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave him the change, one shilling and a halfpenny in copper and a sixpence—as he went out a constable came in, and Mrs. Secombe handed him the florin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-69" type="given" value="MARTHA MARY"/>MARTHA MARY SECOMBE</persName> </hi>. My husband is a draper, of 33, Eversholt Street—on 1st May, about 6.30 p.m.; Miss Marchant gave me a florin—I</p>
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<p>did not like the look of it, but could not swear that it was bad, so I said to the prisoner "Have you smaller change?"—he said "No; have you any cheap towels?"—I said "What price?"—he said "2 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—I said "No, I have some at 3 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," and unpacked a parcel with them in; he had pins for the odd farthing, and the whole amounted to 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I gave him in change for the florin, 12 pence halfpenny in copper and a sixpence—directly he left I compared it with the only florin in the till, and while I was doing so a policeman came in and M'Rea behind him—I handed the florin to the constable—I noticed teeth marks on it when I took it, and M'Rea made some more.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-70" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman S</hi> 104). On 1st May, about 7 p.m., M'Rea spoke to me and I went to Mr. Secombe's shop and saw the prisoner there—he came out and I went in, received this florin, came out again, and saw the prisoner walking up Mornington Crescent, and Webster two yards in advance of him—I said "I want you"—he said "What for?"—I said "I will tell you in a moment"—I told M'Rea to stop with him while I went after Webster, who kept walking on—I stopped her and took her back, and then said to the prisoner "I shall take you to the station for uttering counterfeit coin," and charged her with being concerned with him—he said "I don't under
<lb/>stand anything about it, I have never seen this woman before"—she said "I have never seen him before, he is a total stranger to me"—I took them both to the station, and found on Wilson 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze, a sixpence, a knife, some towels, and a packet of pins.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-71" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA CHOPPER</persName> </hi>, I searched Webster at the station, and found 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money.</p>
<p>>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM WEBSTER</hi>. These florins are bad, but not from the same mould; bad coins are greased, to discolour them and take off the brightness.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoners Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "The witness M'Rea says I was in his shop on the 30th, and uttered a two-shilling piece in pay
<lb/>ment for socks. That is quite false. I was in the shop on 1st May, but not on 30th April. The female prisoner is a stranger to me, I never saw her before. She was not with me when I was arrested, she was brought from the top of the street and I was arrested at the bottom."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner in his defence repeated the same statement.</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a previous conviction of feloniously uttering counter
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.**—
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<hi rend="italic">The same Counsel prosecuted, and the witnesses in the last case were recalled and their former evidence was read over to them by the shorthand-writer.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-74" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman S</hi> 104). I said to Webster "I want you"—she said "What for?"—I said "For being concerned with a man in uttering counterfeit coin"—she said "What man?"—I said "Come back with me and I will show you"—when she saw Wilson she said "I have never seen that man before"—she said nothing about having been with any other man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Webster's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I do not know the man, I never saw him before in my life. I had an appointment at 8 o'clock in Park Street, Regent's Park, and was walking about Somers Town to pass the time away, and walked across Mornington Crescent to get into Park Street;</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Webster's Defence.</hi> I am an unfortunate woman; I had an appoint
<lb/>ment and I was three parts up the street when the policeman stopped me. I never had any bad money to my knowledge.</p>
<p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WEBSTER</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>531.
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<p>533.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-79" type="given" value="ALICE ELLEN"/>ALICE ELLEN TOWSER</persName> </hi>. I am a telegraph clerk at the Post-office, Clapham Common—on 18th March, between 5 and 6 p.m., the prisoner came and said "Three shillings in penny stamps," and put down a florin and a shilling—she kept her hand over the money while I was getting the stamps, and when I gave them to her she pushed the money forward—as she was leaving I saw that the florin was bad, and asked a person there to stop her—she was brought back, and I called Miss Pricker, who said "You must have known it was bad;" she said nothing—I gave her back the shilling as that was good—she was given in custody.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<lb/>feit"—I took a penknife and cut the edge; she repeatedly said "I did not think it was a bad one"—I said "Where do you live?"—she said "In Westminster"—I said "What part of Westminster?"—she said "Near Victoria Station, near the music hall and the public-house"—I said "Can't you tell me the name of the street you live in?"—she said "I don't know the name of it"—I gave her in charge with the florin—she said "Oh, don't, dear lady, give me in custody."</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-81" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MORRELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman W</hi> 172). I took the prisoner and received a bad florin, it was light and very dull—she said nothing—the female searcher at the station afterwards gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. good money—the only address the prisoner gave was "Westminster"—she was taken before Mr. Paget, at Wandsworth, remanded till the 26th, and then discharged, and Mr. Paget threw the florin in the fire—I have never seen that done before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. A pawn ticket was found on you for half a crown in the name of Mary Ann Webb.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), and I went into the shop and said to the prisoner "This is a bad two-shilling piece"—she said "A friend of mine gave it to me outside, I will go and find her"</p>
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<p>—she put down two rolls and went out; I followed her to the corner of Chapel Street, whero a man and woman joined her—they conversed for about a minute, the man then went towards Hyde Park Corner, and the prisoner said to the woman "Have you seen Mrs.—?" I did not catch the name—the woman said "She has gone this way," and we walked towards Victoria Station—the woman left about Wilton Street—I walked by the prisoner's side as far as Hobart Place, where she stood still and said two or three times "What are you going to do with me?"—I said nothing at first, and then said "I will give you in charge," having sent for a constable who came, and I gave her in charge with the florin—she gave two or three different addresses.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. It was impossible for me to stop the three of you, and I did not want the man, I wanted you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-83" type="surname" value="MASON"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-83" type="given" value="MARIA"/>MARIA MASON</persName> </hi>. I serve in Mr. Mason's shop—on 28th April, about 4.30, I served the prisoner with two penny rolls—she give me a florin, it was very black; I tried it with my teeth, found it soft, and said "It is a bad one, where did you get it?"—she said "It belongs to my mistress, round the corner"—I did not know her—I gave it to Mr. Mason, he spoke to her, she left and he followed her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-84" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-84" type="surname" value="HARE"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-84" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HARE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 335). I saw Mr. Mason and the prisoner standing, together in Hobart Place—he called me across and said, "I give this woman in custody for passing bad money; here it is"—she said, "They were not with me"—I took her to the station, where the female searcher gave me a purse with a half-crown and a sixpence in it—I asked the prisoner her address—she said, 16, Victoria Street, or Victoria Road, just which you like.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-85" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-85" type="surname" value="WAIN"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-85" type="given" value="FRANCES"/>FRANCES WAIN</persName> </hi>. I am female searcher at Cottage Road station—I searched the prisoner and found on her a half-crown and a sixpence good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-86" type="surname" value="MORRELL"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-86" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MORRELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). This coin resembles the one which Mr. Paget destroyed in the dulness of the colour.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-87" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This florin is bad; it is of a bad colour, and I have no doubt if I had had the other one here I could have proved that they were made by the same person—there is a great deal of lead in it, and being of a similar colour, the presumption is that they were the same mixture.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate</hi>. "I did not know the man the baker saw me speak to; the woman did, but I did not."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. Each of the persons from the Post-office is telling a lie. I only had 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 0 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. The female searcher ought to be here.</p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-533-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.**—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-533-18790526 t18790526-533-punishment-14"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>534.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES GRIFFITHS</hi> (21)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18790526-534-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit corn.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-89" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SULLIVAN</persName> </hi>. I am errand boy to Mrs. Jones, 4, Down Street, Picca
<lb/>dilly—a little after 8 p.m. on April 29th I was in Windmill Street with a boy named Tidman, and the prisoner called me over to him and said, "Will you go into that little shop and get half an ounce of tobacco for me?"—he was standing by the public-house, and the tobacconist's is next door—he pro
<lb/>duced a couple of halfpence, but kept them back and gave me a florin—I went and got the tobacco and tendered the florin to a little girl in the shop, who showed it to Mrs. Gardner in the parlour—she came into the</p>
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<p>shop, and I went to the door in consequence of what she said, and looked for the prisoner, but he had gone—I told her I could not see him, hut afterwards he passed by and went into the public-house next door and lit his pipe, and Mrs. Gardner went in with me and accused him of it—he said that he knew nothing about it, and came out and went round the corner of the Jews' street—we followed him—he went under a doorway, and we gave him in custody—I did not notice Tidman outside when I went out. Francis Tidman. I live at 15, Little Windmill Street—I was talking to Sullivan on the night of April 29th in Windmill Street—the prisoner came across to Sullivan and said something about tobacco—I think he said, "Will you go and get me half an ounce of tobacco"—I saw his face well—I waited outside the shop when Sullivan went in, and the prisoner walked up and down while I was looking into a paper shop—he came back—Sullivan pointed him out, and he went into the public-house—after he came out, Sullivan, Gardner, and I followed him till he was given in custody—I had only lost sight of him while he was in the heershop—he kept on walking up and down about the length of this Court, passing me while I was looking into the paper shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-90" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN GODDARD</persName> </hi>. I serve at Mrs. Gardner's shop—on the evening of April 29th I served Sullivan with half an ounce of tobacco, which came to 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a florin—I put it in my teeth and it grinded—I called Mrs. Gardner because she had taken two bad ones before. Sophia Gardner. I am the wife of Charles Gardner, a tobacconist—on the evening of April 29th my little girl gave me a bad coin—Sullivan was there, and I asked him where he got it—the prisoner passed the door, and the boy pointed him out to me as. he came out of a public-house—I said to him, "This is a bad two-shilling piece"—he said, "I did not give the lad the two-shilling piece, and I have not seen the lad"—I sent for a constable, and did not lose sight of the prisoner from the time I first spoke to him till I gave him in custody—he told the constable he had never seen the boy before—I gave the florin to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-91" type="surname" value="NEAL"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-91" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE NEAL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman C</hi> 64). Mrs. Gardner gave the prisoner into my custody with this bad florin (produced)—he said that he knew nothing about it, but Sullivan said that he sent him for half an ounce of tobacco—I found on the prisoner 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and the tobacco—I asked his address; he said, "I have got no home."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. You asked the boy to give a description of the person who uttered the florin—he said that he knew it was you by your black and white scarf, but that the person who gave it to him had corduroy trousers—you had brownish moleskin trousers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. His trousers looked a good deal like corduroy.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-92" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-92" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This coin is so bad that any one would see it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate</hi>. "I emphatically deny any knowledge of it or of the boy either."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi> I went into the public-house to have a smoke, and the boy looked in and accused me. I did not go away because I knew nothing about it. In the darkness of the night the boy must have been mistaken.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-534-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-534-18790526 t18790526-534-punishment-15"/>Nine Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. M. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LYON</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLLOCK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-97" type="given" value="HENRY ALFRED"/>HENRY ALFRED STACEY</persName> </hi>, I am Superintendent of Records of the London Bankruptcy Court—I produce the file of proceedings in the case of George Sherborne, and the petition for liquidation, dated 20th August, 1878, which was duly presented on 20th August in the Bankruptcy Court at Newcastle, Northumberland—they are signed in the usual way by George Sherborne. George Blagrave Snell, I am one of the official shorthand writers to the London Court of Bankruptcy, and attended the examination of the prisoner on 15th January, 1879, before Mr. Registrar Pepys, and took down the questions put to him and his answers—the transcript on the file of proceedings is correct.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-98" type="surname" value="LUCAS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-98" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK LUCAS</persName> </hi>, I am a public accountant at 20, Great Marlborough Street, and was on the 13th September, 1878, appointed trustee of the estate of the prisoner at a general meeting of his creditors held at Messrs, Curtis's—he handed me this book.(
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) with others, and' my clerk, Mr. Sutton, took possession of the estate for me—the book contains entries of pianos received from manufacturers and the cost prices—I find an entry of Messrs. Kirkman's pianos; the two last preceding the bankruptcy petition of 20th August are April 15th, a walnut cottage, 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and July 2nd, two walnut cottage pianos, 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and underneath is written, "My acceptance due January, 1879"—I find an entry 26th July, Samuel Brewer and Co., two walnut full cottage 48
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., two truss pianos, 46
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and one pianet 19
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., total 113
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (all-in pencil)—there was only one of Brewer's pianos in the shop—he gave me no explanation how he had disposed of the other pianos—I went through the books with him to. attempt to trace the pianos, but could not, and was obliged to give it up—I found an entry (in pencil), July 10th, of the purchase from Ralph Allison of a rosewood coloured piano 26
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., walnut piano 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and written underneath, "By per due 27th July 52
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.," and May 2nd, Broad wood, a rosewood cottage piano 33
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and two ditto on May 3rd, and underneath, written by the traveller, a receipt for bill of exchange therefor—the last entry in 1878 of purchase from Cadhy is June 6th, two rosewood cottages 49
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. crossed out in pencil); 26th June, two rosewood cottages 49
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. struck out in pencil)—I was present at the prisoner's examination in bankruptcy, and an order was made for his prose
<lb/>cution—I do not think I found any of Allison's pianos in stock, but my clerk will produce the inventory.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I do not suggest than any pianos received by the prisoner were not entered in the book—there were plenty of pianos entered of Kirkman's—page 1 begins "Ralph Allison, June 15th, 1872"—I should</p>
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<p>not go further back than that date—there were entries of dealings with Collards, Mitchells, Wallace, Russell, Barnett, Samuels, Laing, Cocks, Kelly, Hopkinsons, Arthur Allison, and Broadwoods—there are two Allisons, Ralph and Arthur—there is an entry here, Arthur Allison, 1878, July 8th, a walnut cottage 24
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and July 10th ditto, less 5 per cent, discouut, 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; settled as per receipt; by cash 46
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., July 10, 1878—I did not see any entry here of Tolkien—I find in the banker's book, Tolkien, June 8th, 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 82
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. paid to Wallace on the 15th June; 49
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to Laing on the 14th June; Arthur Allison, 47
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on the 18th; Kelly, 81
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on the 15th, and 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the 19th; Brewer, 46
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., June 17th; Kirkman, 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., July 2nd; Kelly, 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., July 3rd; Hopkinson, 16th July, 65
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Har-bottle, 24th June, 69
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the last payment is "Self 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., Clarke 69
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—I did not investigate the tea business; there was none—I made an appointment with the prisoner with my clerk to go through the stock of pianos with the invoices which had been, supplied to me from the various creditors, and we tried to trace them in. the books for two hours, but found it hopeless—I cross-examined him, and he told me he had sold them, but did not tell me to whom—he said he had sent them to Leeds, Scarborough, and Glasgow, to be sold by auction—he gave me no satisfactory explanation—it appears to be the fact that he did send them there to be sold—ho produced the bank book and all the books in his possession—the information he gave turned out to be true—he told me nothing that has turned out to he untrue, and I have not discovered that he kept anything from me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I have not added up the amount of his purchases within four months before his bankruptcy petition—I have not been able to trace or identify from his books the pianos delivered to him within that time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RICHMOND</hi>. I am in the employ of Messrs. Brewer and Co., pianoforte manufacturers, 23, Bishopsgate Street Within, and have been in their employ for the last nine years—the prisoner was a customer and we supplied him to order on the 18th June with two walnut pianos, numbered 11648 and 11653, at 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each; and on the 6th July two walnut pianos, numbered 11470 and 11523, at 24
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each—I saw the pianos packed, addressed, and put into the van—no money was received for them to my knowledge—another walnut piano, 19
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., was invoiced on the 6th July and dispatched from the warehouse on the 8th—when the last three were sent we had received an intimation that there was something wrong, but I did not know he was selling by auction—that would not be an ordinary way of dealing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. We knew when we sent the three last pianos he was a little "shaky;" that his business was not so good as it had been—I don't know what credit he received—it might be six or twelve months; that would be an arrangement with the traveller—the order came from the" traveller and I executed it—the firm has dealt with the prisoner ever since I have been there, about 10 years—I do not know to what extent, I have nothing to do with the financial department—as far as I know the extent of his dealings may have been 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not know the instruments were to be sold by auction or we should not have supplied them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-99" type="surname" value="STARKETY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-99" type="given" value="EDMUND"/>EDMUND STARKETY</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Starkey and Harland, auctioneers, Scarborough—the prisoner arranged with me for the sale of pianos on the 19th July, 1878, and I sold them in our sale room and</p>
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<p>produce the catalogue—they were new instruments—the names of the makers on the catalogue were Kirkman, Broad wood and Son, Allison. Brewer, Cadby, "Wallace, and a harmonium by Dresser—there were two by Brewer and one by Kirkman—one of Brewer's pianos, 11470, was sold to Mr. Hackers for 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and another, 11523, to Mr. Sisson for 19
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the Kirkman piano, No. 3134, was sold to Mr. Dove for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; and the harmonium by Dresser to a Mr. Mitchell for 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—a piano by Broadwood (No. 50576) was sold to. Mr. Scariott for 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and one by Cadby (No. 19347) to Mrs. Small wood for 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Cross-examined. July is the beginning of the season at Scarborough, and pianos would be likely to sell—business was good and a fair number of people attended the auction, which was extensively advertised—our auction room is in Burton's Walk, a very public place—the prisoner's name did not appear on the placards, but the names of the makers did appear—there were two of Kirkman's in the placard, but only one sent us for sala William Dove. I am a monumental sculptor at Scarborough—I attended Starkey and garland's sale of musical instruments on the 19th July, 1878, and purchased a new piano by Kirkman for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. numbered 31344; the last figure 4 was covered by a ticket! pasted over, making it appear 3134.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-100" type="surname" value="HACKERS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-100" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HACKERS</persName> </hi>. I am a painter at 66, Eastborough, Scarborough and attended this sale on 19th July, 1878, and purchased a piano (No. 11470) by Samuel Brewer for 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-101" type="surname" value="SISSON"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-101" type="given" value="ROBERT NAYLOR"/>ROBERT NAYLOR SISSON</persName> </hi>. I am a coal merchant at 94, Westborough, Scarborough, and attended the sale on the 19th July, 1878, and purchased a new piano by Brewer and Co (No. 11523) for. 19
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I sold it after
<lb/>wards at a profit.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-102" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-102" type="surname" value="SMALLWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-102" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET SMALLWOOD</persName> </hi>. I reside at 64, Trafalgar Street West, Scarborough—I attended Starkey and Harland's sale on the 19th July, and purchased a piano by Cadby, No. 19349, for 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., quite new.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-103" type="surname" value="DUNSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-103" type="given" value="CHARLES HENRY"/>CHARLES HENRY DUNSTER</persName> </hi>. I am. one of the trustees carrying on business as Kirkman and Son, 3, Soho Square pianoforte manufacturers—the prisoner has been a customer of the firm for tour or live years—we supplied him on credit on July 2nd with two walnut pianos, Nos. 31058 and 31344 for 31
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each—the order was received from our traveller, Mr. Sherwood—the prisoner owed the firm about 430
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the filing of his petition for liquidation—we did not know he was selling them, by auction, and it is unusual to sell new pianos by auction.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. We object to pianos being sold by auction, because it spoils our country trade, and we do not like there being hawked about—we do not ask purchasers what they are going to do with pianos—the prisoner has been our customer since 1873—4 and his dealings may have amounted to 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-104" type="surname" value="LATHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-104" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD LATHAM</persName> </hi>. I am cashier to Kalph Allison and Sons, pianoforte manufacturers, 108, 109, and 110 Wardour Street—we supplied the prisoner within four months of August 20th with nine pianos, and have not been paid for them; they were numbered 19664, 19700, 19685, 19727, 19710, 19858, 19754,1977 and 1998, total value 232
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the last supplied was July 20th.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. They were sold to him at 12 months' credit—we had done business with him about six or seven years, and had extended the credit with him the last two years—we have sold him about 89 instruments,</p>
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<p>which would come to about 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year—his transactions were smaller at first, but increased gradually—he owes us over 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—acceptances were given and dishonoured; they were not all due at the date of his bankruptcy, and I do not know if any were dishonoured before the bankruptcy—he had paid his acceptances until then, but a great many were running—two years ago he asked our traveller to extend our credit, and we did so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. His debt when he failed was 509
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-105" type="surname" value="CADBY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-105" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CADBY</persName> </hi>. I am a pianoforte manufacturer at Hammersmith Road—I "supplied the prisoner on the 6th of June, 1878, with two rosewood pianos, 19656 and 19661, invoiced at 24
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and two similar pianos at the same price, Nos. 19347 and 19300—we had no idea they were to be sold by auction—it is not usual in the trade to sell them by auction.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. No piano dealers sell by auction—I believe Kelley and Co. do, second hand ones—I see their sales advertised—I do not think they are advertised as second hand—they are large dealers, but I know nothing of their business—I know they are auctioneers and sell off collections of old pianos—I have dealt with the prisoner about six years, and his transactions from the beginning are about 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I will not swear they were not more than 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—we do not ask purchasers what they are going to do with the pianos, but we should not sell them if we knew they were to be sold by auction, as we do not like them being hawked about, and it depreciates the value of our instruments.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-106" type="surname" value="FULTON"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-106" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT FULTON</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk to Messrs. Broadwood and Son, piano
<lb/>forte manufacturers, 23, Great Pulteney Street—the prisoner is a customer of the firm, and we supplied him with instruments between 20th May and 20th August last—on the 2nd May, 1878, we supplied him with seven pianos, Nos. 5371 to 5377, invoiced at credit price—he owed us 107
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at the time of his bankruptcy—we should not have supplied them if we had known they were to be sold by auction.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. We do not inquire what is going to be done with them—we should object to their being sold by auction irrespective of the prices obtained.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-107" type="surname" value="SCARLETT"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-107" type="given" value="CHARLES EDWARD"/>CHARLES EDWARD SCARLETT</persName> </hi>. I am a flower dealer at Scarborough—I attended Starkey and Harland's pianoforte sale on the 19th July last, and purchased a Broadwood, No. 5376, for 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it was apparently new.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-108" type="surname" value="WINTER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-108" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES WINTER</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Tolkien, pianoforte manufacturer, 51, King William Street—the prisoner is a customer and was supplied on the 19th July, 1878, with two pianos, Nos. 78142-43, at 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each, on credit—we had no idea they were to be sold by auction—that is not the ordinary course for a dealer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. We have dealt with him three or four years—I have been at Mr. Tolkien's seven years—the prisoner has not to my knowledge dealt with Mr. Tolkien 14 years, but he may have done so—we do not ask people what they are going to do with pianos.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-109" type="surname" value="KEYSER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-109" type="given" value="MORITZ"/>MORITZ KEYSER</persName> </hi>. I am manager and traveller to Mr. Laing, importer and dealer in musical instruments, 13 and 14, Kimberley Street—we received orders from the prisoner between April 20th and August 20th, 1878, and supplied him with goods—at the time of filing his petition he had not paid for them, and owed us 114
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for two pianos and a harmonium supplied on the 22nd April, 1878, and a harmonium on the 19th June.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not know they were going to be sold by auction—the prisoner, in November, 1877, told me on my visit to Newcastle that he had and sale on his own premises to counteract a neighbour who was selling by auction—I knew subsequently of his selling by auction at Glasgow, and I sent my brother down to get his account settled, and told him to solicit further orders, and not to mention that I knew anything of his sale at Glasgow, in order to get payment of one or two of the prisoner's bills due in about three weeks after.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-110" type="surname" value="YOUNG"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-110" type="given" value="GEORGE TILT"/>GEORGE TILT YOUNG</persName> </hi>. I represent the firm of Hardwick and Young, auctioneers, Leeds—by the prisoner's instructions we sold some pianos by auction on the 30th July, 1878—we sold a piano by Kirkman to Mr. Bentley.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The sale was advertised in two papers, and bills were printed and posted up giving the makers' names.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The prisoner's name did not appear.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BENTLEY</hi>. I attended the sale at Leeds and bought a piano by Kirkman, No. 31058, for 28
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-111" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-111" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-111" type="given" value="JAMES HARDMAN"/>JAMES HARDMAN SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Smith and Sheard, Edinburgh, and by the prisoner's personal instructions we sold pianos by auction on 1st June, 1878—we had sold by auction for him previously at the end of April—the names of the makers advertised in April were Collard and Collard, Kirkman, Hopkinson, Ciceroni, Ralph Allison, Cox and Co., and Wallace; and in June: Allison, Broadwood, and Collard and Collard—we sold about 12 or 14 in April, and six or seven in June.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The sales were advertised in two or three local paper, giving maker's names, and there were catalogues.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-112" type="surname" value="WALLACE"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-112" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WALLACE</persName> </hi>. I am manager to my father, a pianoforte manufacturer, at 133 and 135, Euston Road—I know the prisoner as a customer—we supplied him on the 11th June, 1878, on credit, with two walnut pianos, Nos. 1882 and 1884, at 22
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each; and a 14-stop harmonium, No. 12355, for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and have never been paid—we had no idea they were to be sold by auction.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. We have some idea what is going to be done with pianos when we sell them—we have asked on various occasions, but have not asked the prisoner—if a man comes to open an account he gives references, and if an auctioneer I should take it he was going to sell them by auction and should not supply him—we have dealt with the prisoner four or five years—I will not swear it is not 14 years, but I do not think so—I think he never owed us more than the 609
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. due at the time of his petition—his transactions during the time he has dealt with us would amount to as much as 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-113" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-113" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-113" type="surname" value="STACEY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-113" type="given" value="HENRY ALFRED"/>HENRY ALFRED STACEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The total amount of the prisoner's indebtedness is 4,180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of which 4,083
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is due to pianoforte manufacturers in London—his assets are 946
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., according to the statement on his own estimate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-114" type="surname" value="LUCAS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-114" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK LUCAS</persName> </hi>. I have made an estimate of the assets of this estate—speaking from memory, I think it is about 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I mean the present value—I have made no estimate of the assets at the date of the petition—I have received' nothing like that sum—he may have offered 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the pound—I attended meetings of creditors,</p>
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<p>but cannot distinctly remember such an offer—if made it was without security.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLLOCK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no evidence of any false pretence on the part of the prisoner. He had carried on a legitimate business for 20 years, and no false representation was proved or any evidence of an intent to defraud</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that the purchases were made under the false pretence of dealing or carrying on business in the ordinary way of his trade. The
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi> considered that there was no evidence of the false pretence under sub-section</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">of the Act.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-538-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="directed"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against the prisoner,</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic"> upon which no evidence was offered.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>539.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE GAY</hi> (18)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18790526-539-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-539-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing a purse and two keys and 4
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEOGHEGAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THORNE COLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-116" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED HEGLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a printer at 5, Ocean Street, Stepney—on Wednesday, the 19th March, between 2 and 3 p.m., while on London Bridge, my attention was called to the prisoner and another man—they were going from lady to lady and looking into their jacket pockets, and then feeling in them—I followed them to King William Street, and saw the other man go and face a lady while the prisoner took out this purse (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from her pocket—the other man then went towards Eastcheap and Gay towards Arthur Street East, and I followed him and called out to the policeman, and I had a struggle with him and he got away—I first saw the purse in his 'hand, and am sure he is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. It was my dinner-time—I was standing upon the bridge, and they were going over from the Surrey side—I saw who took the purse, and saw it thrown away, and I picked it up—I did not look into it; they opened it at the station—I followed the policeman, and came up to him in Thames Street, where the prisoner ran on to the wharves, and I called out "Police!"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-117" type="surname" value="SHEEN"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-117" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHEEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 756). I was on duty in Arthur Street East on the 19th March, and saw the last witness struggling with the prisoner—I went towards them, and Gay got away—in consequence of what the witness told me I went to Thames Street and apprehended the other man, Wilkinson—the witness gave me this purse.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not go on to London Bridge—they were about 12 yards off when I heard some one call out—I ran four or five minutes from Arthur Street, and Hegley ran with me—I got close to the prisoner, but he escaped, and I lost sight of him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-118" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID SHIP</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 809). I apprehended the prisoner on the 5th May in the Steam Packet public-house, Lower Thames Street, and told him he would be charged with stealing a purse from a lady in King William. Street on the 19th March—he said, "You are mistaken"—I said, "That is for the witness to prove."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. He said he knew nothing about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-539-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-539-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner also
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> to having been previously convicted of felony at Lewes on the 1st July</hi>, 1878.**—
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<hi rend="italic">Two Years' Imprison
<lb/>ment.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 28
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Grove.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH AVITA</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18790526-540-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="kill"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-540-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="manslaughter"/>, Feloniously killing and slaying
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18790526-540-offence-1 t18790526-name-120"/>Rosario Bertucco.</persName> </rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-121" type="given" value="EDWARD CLUNELESS"/>EDWARD CLUNELESS DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at the London Hospital—I was present when Rosario Bertucco died there—I was present before his death, when his deposition was taken in the presence of a Magistrate; he was in a dying state—the prisoner was present, and had an opportunity of asking any questions he pleased. (
<hi rend="italic">The deposition of Rosario Bertucco was read as follows</hi>: "I am an inmate of the hospital. At half-past 7 on Satur
<lb/>day last, 26th April, I was in the ice cream shop kept by Marmarosi; I went there to have something to eat; another man, not the prisoner, gave Marmarosi a white shirt to wash. That man asked for his shirt again, and called Marmarosi a wh——. I asked Marmarosi what was the matter; the other man who gave the shirt said to Marmarosi, 'You have got another man who talks Italian, call him out to tight.' That man went out and came in again, and said to me, 'Come out and right.' As I went outside I said, 'One to one I will fight English fashion.' There were about 20 Maltese outside. The prisoner said, 'Let that man go, and fight with me.' We fought to
<lb/>gether with fists. After we had been fighting about three-quarters of a minute I felt a blow with a knife in my back, and I fell to the ground. I do not know who gave me the blow with the knife. A soldier said, 'That is the man.' The prisoner was running away, and the soldier pointed to him. I had known the prisoner two or three days. I had had no quarrel with him before. I was sober."
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. "I had not been drink
<lb/>ing with the prisoner; I had drank two glasses of beer with an Australian young man—I did not see the man running away—just after I felt the stab I fell down and called out 'Help me, Christians!'—I had no knife except the little penknife produced—I put my hand in my pocket to take out this knife to frighten them—I do not know whether the prisoner was always in front of me as we were fighting—we were turning round all the time—I had no quarrel half an hour before with the prisoner or any other Maltese—the police sergeant did not pull me off any one.") The deceased was admitted into the hospital on 26th April—I saw him when he was admitted—he was suffering from a wound in the left buttock—it was more than 5 inches deep, and about 1/2 an inch in breadth—it had entered the pelvis—there was considerable hæmorrhage—I should say a very long slender knife would inflict such a wound—considerable force must have been used—this knife (
<hi rend="italic">found on the prisoner</hi>) could not have produced it—he died on 1st May—I made a post-mortem examination—the knife had penetrated into the bladder; that caused extravasation of urine and peritonitis, of which he died.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I said before the Magistrate that if the prisoner and deceased were fighting, I should think the prisoner could not have turned round and inflicted the wound in the position in which I found it, not if he was fighting in front of him, he would have to stoop down to do it, and I don't think he would be able to use sufficient force in that position.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-122" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-122" type="surname" value="COWLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-122" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED COWLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a soldier in the 2nd Battalion of Grenadier</p>
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<p>Guards quartered at the Tower—I have been in the army 18 months—on the night of 26th April, about a quarter to 9 o'clock, I was in St. George's Street—I was sober—I saw the prisoner come out of the Crooked Billet public-house with the deceased and two others—the prisoner and deceased began to fight with their fists—they fought for about a quarter of an hour—they had about four or five rounds—the deceased was on his knee, and the prisoner was in the rear of him, and he drew a knife from his side with a bit of white tape on it like sailors have round their necks—it was shut when he drew it, but he opened it and stuck it in the backside of the deceased—he said "Oh, I am stabbed," and he fell—the prisoner ran away—I went after him—he took the first turning to the left—I overtook him—I found him on his hands and knees at the side of a wall, and I gave him in charge to a policeman—he was about 200 yards from where the fight took place—he then had no knife but this; I did not notice any white cord about him—I am sure he is the man that drew the knife—I was in the Crooked Billet before the fight took place for about a quarter of an hour having a pint of beer, and saw the prisoner and deceased there; they were quarrelling about something, I could not understand their language, they were haggling in some foreign talk—I afterwards assisted the deceased to the hospital.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I saw five altogether in the Crooked Billet—I had not seen either of them before—there were a great many people around the two men, who were fighting—I did not see a tall man there with ginger whiskers—I did not see Cavaleri, or Mallia, or Jones there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-123" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-123" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-123" type="surname" value="FUNNELL"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-123" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES FUNNELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 249). On Saturday, April 26th, about 9 o'clock, I was on duty in St. George's Street—it used to be called Ratcliff Highway—it is very much crowded on Saturday night—I saw a disturbance going on outside the Crooked Billet—just before I got Up to it I saw the prisoner come out of the crowd—he had blood on the side of his face and neck—he turned up Denmark Street—I heard a man say, "I am stabbed"—I went after the prisoner, and found him crouched alongside a dark wall, about 100 yards up Denmark Street—the soldier saw him first and said, "Here he is"—I took hold of him and said he would have to go back with me—he said, "What for?"—I said there had been a man stabbed—he said, "I have been fighting, but I did not use any knife"—I took him back to outside the Kettledrum, where the deceased was, but he was not able to say anything—I took the prisoner to the station and searched him, and found this small knife in his pocket—there were no traces of blood on it—the prisoner had no wound on him; he had a black eye.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not look to see if there was any wound on his neck—there was no cord round his neck.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-124" type="surname" value="POUND"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-124" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM POUND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector H</hi>). I was present when the prisoner was brought to Leman Street Station—I read the charge to him—he said, "I did not do it, they know that," pointing to a number of persons who came into the station with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I have made inquiries and ascertained that two fireman of the ship Nankin disappeared on that Saturday night—they had leave and did not return to the ship—I ascertained that from the chief engineer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The Nankin was in the South West India Dock—the firemen were both Maltese—no knife was found where the fight took place.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The following Witnesses were called for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-125" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-125" type="surname" value="SAID"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-125" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES SAID</persName> </hi>. I am a fireman—I am a Maltese, now boarding at 156,</p>
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<p>St. Geoge's Street—on April 26th I saw a fight between the prisoner and deceased—they fought with their hands—the prisoner did not strike the deceased with a knife; it was another one named Alfred—I do not know his other name—it was a long Spanish knife with a sharp point—I had seen him open it at the boarding-house—the prisoner does not wear a knife fastened to a white cord—Alfred struck the deceased from behind—the two were fighting in English fashion, quite fair, and Alfred came behind and struck him—the two were one on the top of the other at the time, the pri
<lb/>soner was under, and Alfred struck deceased and ran away—I have not seen him since—there were a good many people standing round.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I saw the soldier on the other side, talking to a girl about 20 yards off—I saw Alfred open the knife in the boarding-house—he wanted to fight the deceased with it, and the prisoner said no—he was a fireman, and belonged to the
<hi rend="italic">Nankin</hi>—he told me so—he was a long fellow, with a small moustache, no whiskers—I had known the prisoner about a week.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-126" type="surname" value="POUND"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-126" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM POUND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I learnt from the chief engineer of the Nankin the names of the two firemen who disappeared; they were Alfred Portello and Constantine Spero.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-127" type="surname" value="MALLIA"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-127" type="given" value="LAURENCE"/>LAURENCE MALLIA</persName> </hi>. I am a fireman, lodging at Marmarosi's, in St. George's Street—I saw the fight between the prisoner and Bertucco—I saw Alfred, the man who ran away, strike Bertucco with a knife—the prisoner did not use any knife, he struct with his hand, English fashion—Alfred was a long man with a small black moustache; he belonged to the
<hi rend="italic">Nankin</hi>—I have not seen him since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I knew Alfred in. London, and the prisoner too; I knew the prisoner about 36 days—I saw the soldier on the other side speaking to a girl alongside the boarding-house, about 14 yards away—I saw Alfred take the knife from his jacket pocket and open it; it was a Spanish knife—I did not hear him say anything—he is a Maltese; so is the prisoner, and so am I—I knew Bertucco about five months ago.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I went to the police-court and gave my evidence on the Monday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-128" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-128" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-128" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-128" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED JONES</persName> </hi>. I am a fireman at 1, John Street, St. George's—I was standing at the corner of John's Hill, and saw the prisoner and deceased fighting; the prisoner had the big man (the deceased) in a bending position, and a tall man came round from the crowd and stabbed the deceased; he then shut the knife and put it in his right-hand pocket—I went ever to see if the man was hurt, and saw him bleeding in the backside—I turned round to see if the man that did it was there, and he was gone—the police
<lb/>man came up, and he and the soldier went up Denmark Street and caught the prisoner; the policeman asked the soldier if that was him, and he said "Yes"—he walked him outside the Kettledrum, and then the soldier said, "No, that ain't the man"—the policeman heard him say so—I am quite certain the prisoner is not the man that used the knife—they were all strangers to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I am employed at New Crane Wharf, Wapping—the policeman had hold of the prisoner at the time the soldier said he was not the man—I did not see which way the tall man ran—it was an open knife he stabbed with, and then he stood in the road and shut it and put it in his pocket—there was a mob round the fight.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-129" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-129" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAY</persName> </hi>. I am a wharf labourer, and live at 23, Cornwall Street, St. George's—I know nothing of the parties—I saw the two men fighting; the deceased called out "The knife! the knife!"—the prisoner opened his hands and said, "Me got no knife; fight fair, English"—that was all I saw.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I was standing in the crowd not a yard from them—the prisoner was in front of the deceased with his hands up—I did not see any one run away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-130" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-130" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN DRISCOLL</persName> </hi>. I live in Alsop Place, St. George's—I saw the prisoner and deceased fighting; I saw the deceased stabbed, not by the prisoner, by a much taller man with a little bit of moustache and light trousers, and he went away down a back turning—I can swear it was not the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. They were all strangers to me—I was standing close by.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-131" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CAVALERI</persName> </hi>. I was in Marmarosi's ice-shop—there was a row there with a tall fellow—I saw the fight in the street; the tall fellow with a black moustache stabbed the man with a long Spanish knife—he was a Maltese belonging to the Nankin—it was not the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The tall man had a moustache; it was not very black or ginger—I did not know him before, only to speak to—I drank with him before the fight.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-132" type="given" value="JAKES"/>JAKES FUNNELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I did not hear the soldier say that the prisoner was not the man—I am quite sure he did not, or I should have heard him—it was a darkish night, but there was light from the shops.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I did not say the prisoner was not the man or anything of the sort—he is the man.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted; and</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Defended.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-136" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY PODBURY</persName> </hi>. I am servant to the prisoner at Portland Villa, Hillingdon—on 6th May, about 4.30 p.m., I was helping my mistress putting some feathers into a new bed in a room at the top of the house—I heard the breakfast-room bell ring; that is on the ground floor—there are three storeys to the house—I came down to the first landing—my master called "Mary"—I said "Yes, sir"—he came to the bottom of the landing and said, "Damn it, what are you laughing at up there?"—he had a revolver in his hand; he pointed it at me, and said he would shoot me—he said that twice—I ran back to my mistress and told her—the prisoner ran after me and came into the room—he said "I will shoot your mistress, by God I will, and I mean it too," and he moved a few steps and fired—he,. held the revolver pointed straight at my mistress—she was struck, and the blood was streaming down her face—I jumped at the prisoner, and took the revolver out of his hand and put it in my pocket, and went to fetch Trotman, the gardener—he was not at home, but he came a few minutes after I came back—I had seen the prisoner that morning before I heard the bell; he was not drunk; he appeared to me to be sober—I had not heard him quarrelling with my mistress that morning—he had gone downstairs before Trotman came—I came with my mistress to her bedroom on the first floor—I sent for the doctor—my mistress was sitting down when the pistol</p>
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<p>was fired at her; he was standing two or three yards from her—I afterwards picked up a bullet and a tooth in the room by the side of where my mistress had been sitting—the prisoner is of no business or profession—I remember on 13th April his wanting to go out; my mistress wanted him not to go, and he took up the poker and said he would kill us if either of us came near him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. When I first went into the service the prisoner was away at Dr. Harland's—he was there for six months on account of ill health—he came home about Christmas—he gave way to drink a good deal—he did not have an attack of delirium tremens while I was there—Mr. Mac
<lb/>namara used to attend him—he was in a peculiar state on Easter Sunday (13th April)—he had been drinking for two or three days—he used to get very excited after that—he did not rave—I noticed that his eyes glared and looked wild—that continued for a few days after he left off drinking—he wanted to go out on Easter Sunday, and my mistress and I tried to prevent him; we thought it would be dangerous to let him' go out—he had been drinking a good deal before the 6th of May, brandy and beer—he was not a great deal excited that day—it was about 3.30 when I went upstairs to pick the feathers—this occurred about 4.30—I had passed him in the hall as I went upstairs—I had no opportunity of watching him during that day—I had not been laughing upstairs; I was smiling when I came to master—when not under the influence of drink he has behaved nicely to my mistress.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. He had taken a little beer that day, about 2 o'clock, and he had a little egg and brandy shortly before this occurred, about 3.35—he dined at 2 o'clock—after Easter Sunday he went about the house as usual.</p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-137" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE GARDNER</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's wife; I have been married to him nearly seven years—on Tuesday, 6th May, I was upstairs with Mary—we had dined about 2 o'clock—after dinner the prisoner struck me on the side of the head with his hand; he did not say anything to me at the time—I thought he was sober—I had objected to his spitting in the fire, I asked him not to do so, and then he struck me, I believe with bis open hand; it was not a violent blow, but it hurt me, because I was suffering from head
<lb/>ache—I was sitting by the fire after dinner in the down-stairs room—I left the room immediately after he struck me, and went up to my bedroom—that was about 2.30—after that I was in the top room with the servant picking feathers—I heard the bell ring; the servant went down; I heard my husband threaten to shoot her—he said "Damn it, what are you laugh
<lb/>ing at upstairs? I will shoot you"—I had not heard her laugh; she was smiling when she went down—she ran back to me into the room, and he followed her immediately—she said "Master is coming upstairs with a revolver in his hand"—I should say he was near enough to hear—when he came into the room I noticed that his face was very red, and his eyes glaring—he said "I will shoot your mistress, by God I will, I mean it too;" he said that just as he came into the room—I saw the revolver in his hand—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is it—he came and stood about two yards from my left side—I was sitting down—he then moved nearly opposite to me, and fired without hesitation—my head was leaning down—I was struck in the left cheek, just below the eye; the bullet passed down inside my cheek and knocked out one of my upper teeth and one of the lower teeth; both teeth came out in the room, one has been found just lately; I was bleeding—I did not see what Mary did, I saw her leave the room—my husband did not help me at</p>
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<p>all; he was looking about the room for the revolver—I said "No, no, no"—he said "What will they do to me?"—assistance came, and Mr. Mac
<lb/>namara attended to me—I thought, in fact I know almost that my husband was sober after dinner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. He is a confirmed drunkard—I sent him away last year to Dr. Harland's establishment in the hope that he would be cured—he did not take to drink again for three weeks after he came back, but soon after he did—he has had several attacks of delirium tremens—when not in drink he has behaved kindly to me—he has had the revolver for nearly two years; he got it on account of being afraid of burglars—I hid it for some time—I thought it an unsafe thing for him to have—when he fired at me I was sitting on a chair with my head bent down; I was not looking at him—I can't say whether his hand was not much higher than his hip—I was not alarmed when I saw him with the revolver.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. It is some time ago that I put the revolver out of his way—I did it because he threatened to shoot me—it is only a few weeks ago—I took very little notice where he kept it; he put it in one of his own private drawers—he has many times threatened to shoot me, and himself too.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>. I do not know that on two occasions previous to our marriage he attempted to commit suicide—I was told of it some time after my marriage, by his own brother, who is dead.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES-TROTMAN</hi>. I am a gardener, and have worked in that capacity for the prisoner about 12 mouths—on the 6th May, just before 5 in the afternoon, I was fetched to the house by Mary Podbury—I found the prisoner just coming out of one of the lower rooms—I said, "What have you been doing?"—he said, "I am going upstairs to see my wife"—I saw that he had blood on his hands, and he was very much excited—he wanted to pass me to go upstairs—I caught hold of him and threw him down, and held him there—I did not then know what had happened upstairs—he asked me to let, him get up and sit in a chair, and I did so—he then said, "Is Mrs. Gardner dead? I am afraid she is; I am afraid I shot too straight"—on several occasions prior to this I had been called in when he was suffering from
<hi rend="italic">delirium tremens</hi>—on one occasion he tried to stab himself with a knife—in the beginning of 1878, when I was in care of him, he asked to see his wife—she came into the room—he was talking to her for two or three minutes—he then caught her by the shoulders and began to shake her—I prevented him from doing so—after she loft the room I asked why he had done it, and he said he had no recollection of having done it—he was a confirmed drunkard then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. He was very excited through drink—if he heard people talking he always fancied they were talking about him, and became very angry and excited—if any persons came into the house and were speaking, he always thought they were talking about him—Mrs. Gardner always treated him with great kindness, only tried to prevent him from drinking—he said she did not use him kindly.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). On Tuesday evening, 6th May, about 6, I went to the prisoner's house—I was in uniform—I saw him in the garden—as soon as I entered the garden he said, "I know what you have come for, you want me"—I said "Yes"—he went indoors—I told him I should take him into custody for shooting his wife—he said, "I did it in a passion; don't worry me"—he went quietly with me to the station—</p>
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<p>he appeared very excited—I considered him to be sober—I went back to the house and saw the bullet and tooth found by Mary Podbury in the room upstairs among some feathers on the floor—she handed me this revolver—it has six chambers—one appeared to have been recently discharged; one had not been loaded—I found a cartridge in the prisoner's pocket which fitted it—I have drawn the other charges, and have the cartridges here.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-139" type="given" value="EDMUND"/>EDMUND VINCENT</persName> </hi>. I accompanied the inspector to the prisoner's house—while he had gone away I was left alone with the prisoner—he said, "Who sent for you?"—I said, "Dr. Macnamara came to the police-station and gave information that you had shot your wife"—he said, "Did he say that I was drunk?"—I said "No"—he said, "Did he say that my wife would die"—I said "No"—he said, "That is one load off my mind; I should not have done it if it had not been for passion"—he also said, "I have been very poorly; I should think more of it if I thought it was all my fault"—I considered him sober—he had taken drink—on 14th May I was with him as he was being conveyed from the House of Correction to Uxbridge to go before the Magistrate—in the train he said to me, "Can you get me a local paper, an Uxbridge paper?"—I said, "Yes, I dare say I can"—he said, "Because that girl has perjured herself"—I said, "What girl?"—he said, "That servant of ours; she states that she took the revolver from me; she did not, I dropped it in the feathers, and I have some recollection of looking for it, and if I had found it, it would no doubt have been a bad job for all that were present; I should have done for all, and myself as well."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-140" type="given" value="GEORGE HOUSEMAN"/>GEORGE HOUSEMAN MACNAMARA</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon at Uxbridge, near the prisoner's—on 6th May, about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, I went to the prisoner's house—I found Mrs. Gardner in bed bleeding from the mouth, and also from a wound in the cheek—the bullet had entered just under the left eye, passed inside, and came out behind the upper lip, knocking out the eyetooth of the upper jaw and a tooth of the lower jaw—such a wound would be inflicted from the firing of a revolver—I saw the prisoner about 5.30—he was not perfectly sober, he had evidently been drinking—he knew what he was about—I saw him later in the evening at the police-station; I spoke to him—he appeared then to know what he was about—I have attended him since September, 1877—I attended him three times in the course of a year for delirium tremens—on one occasion I took possession of the revolver; he had it in his writing desk; that was in September, 1877, the first time I saw him—-from the state he was then in I took the revolver from him and kept it for six months, I then gave it to Mrs. Gardner—she' is out of danger; there will be disfigurement; she has not quite recovered from the shock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I believe she will completely recover—when I took the revolver from the prisoner he had been threatening to shoot everybody and himself too—delirium tremens sometimes arises from depression from abstinence from drink; they always leave off drinking before they get delirium tremensthe quantity of alcohol stops them from drinking, the whole digestion is upset, and they leave off drinking and delirium tremens follows—glaring of the eyes is one of the first symptoms of
<hi rend="italic">delirium tremens</hi>—the prisoner was suffering from a complication of diseases before he went to Dr. Harland—he was suffering recently from Bright's disease; that is an incurable disease; it is very much the effects of drink—he is not suffering so much from it now as he was two years ago—he also had con
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<p>of the liver and of the lungs; the lung disease would cause him to spit a good deal—he has general congestion of every organ of his body.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">to be paid to the witness Mary Podbury for her courageous conduct.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner being deaf and dumb, the evidence was interpreted by the Rev. S. Smith.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-143" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD EDGSON</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer at Hammersmith—on 15th April, about 8.30 or 8.45, I was at the Crown public-house, North End, Fulham, with my wife, who is the prisoner's sister; she had had a little too much to drink—I took a rose out of her hat—she said she would fetch a policeman and lock me up—after this I was standing outside the Crown holding a horse's head—I saw the prisoner come up and I saw Shawcross fall on the road on the back of his head—I did not see the prisoner do anything to him; he ran, up and said "Bo!" and Shawcross fell—he pushed him, whether with his open hand or his closed fist I could not say—he had his hands in his pockets, and he fell on the back of his head.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. Shawcross was standing on the edge of the kerb; I did not see him do anything aggravating—the prisoner is a very quiet fellow.</p>
<p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The prisoner struck at him, and it caught him by the side of the ear, and he fell backward into the road—he only struck him once.</p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-145" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES STAMMERS</persName> </hi>. I live at 10, Field Road, Fulham—I was outside the Crown talking to Shawcross—I had seen Mr. and Mrs. Edgson quarrelling, and she went for a policeman—the prisoner came towards Shawcross and struck him two or three times with his fist in the face, and he fell to the ground on the back of his head—he had his hands in his pocket all the time—I saw no reason for the prisoner's striking him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. Shawcross made no insulting gesture of any sort—I am sure of that.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-146" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES MARSH</persName> </hi>. I am a grainer, and live at 10, Crown Road, Fulham—I saw a disturbance outside the Crown; there was a quantity of people—Shawcross was standing on the edge of the kerb with his back towards the road with his hands in his bolt—I saw him blow his nose with his fingers towards the prisoner, who was standing ten or twelve yards off—the prisoner</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-147" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SHAWCROSS</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer of North End, Fulham—the deceased, William Shawcross, was my brother; he was 49 years of age—he was brought home senseless on 15th April; he was attended by Dr. Murdock and died on the 24th—he had about 150 fits between the 15th and 24th—he had had no fits before that; he was a healthy man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-148" type="given" value="PATRICK ALEXANDER"/>PATRICK ALEXANDER MURDOCK</persName> </hi>. I am a registered medical practitioner at Fulham—on the night of 15th April the deceased was brought to my surgery—he was suffering from a lacerated wound at the back of his head, and was bleeding from both ears and nose; the wound was about the size of a half-crown—from the grit and sand in the wound I fancied it was from a fall on a Macadamised road—I had him taken to his own home, and I attended him daily till he died; I saw him in one fit; it was reported to me that he had others—an injury of that kind would be likely to produce fits—the cause of death was fracture at the base of the skull caused by the fall.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. There was no. trace of any blow about his face—I should certainly have expected to find some trace if the blow was violent—I should not think a violent blow could have been given.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective</hi>). I arrested the prisoner on 25th April—I made certain signs to him to denote that Shawcross was dead, and that he had caused it—he nodded his head and held up his fist in the action of striking, giving me to understand that he knew what I meant.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement as interpreted before the Magistrate</hi>. "The deceased insulted me by a motion of his fingers to his nose."</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 28
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EUGENE MOISE SILVEYRA</hi> (34)</persName> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH TOUZON</hi> (41)</persName>
<rs id="t18790526-543-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18790526-543-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-543-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="bankrupcy"/>, Unlawfully obtaining 185
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. within four months of their bank
<lb/>ruptcy. Other Counts for obtaining diamonds and other goods.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BULWER</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Silveyra, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ATHERLY JONES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Touzon.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">stated that the defendants declined to plead to the 17th and 18th Counts, winch charged false pretences, and demurred to them, they being bad in law, having been added without the permission of the Court being first obtained; and that they were added merely to give power to the Court to make a restitution order</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that a totally dis
<lb/>tinct charge had been placed in the indictment against Touzon, and that the invariable practice under such circumstances was to strike out the Counts or to quash the Indictment</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BULWER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">having stated that he should not ask the Jury to convict Touzon on those Counts, as Silveyra alone was committed for the false pretences to which they related, the Court directed the</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th and 18th Counts to be quashed as far as Touzon was concerned.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-152" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED LOVE</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Bankruptcy Court—I produce a petition in liquidation filed by Touzon and Silveyra, jewellers, goldsmith, and ring makers, dated 26th February, 1876, and filed the same day—I also</p>
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<p>find an order of 28th February appointing Mr. Seear receiver and manager, and another order of 21st March appointing him trustee—in the statement of affairs filed by the debtors the unsecured creditors are stated at 8,833
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and the creditors fully secured 5,408
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the estimated value of the securities is 7,777
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there are no secured creditors except pawn
<lb/>brokers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. With the petition there is a list of 19 creditors to whom summonses are to be sent for the first meeting, which is afterwards increased by a supplemental list to 24—the first meeting was appointed for 19th March, when there was a resolution to liquidate by arrangement and not in bankruptcy, but no offer was made of so much in the pound—they carried also a resolution appointing Mr. Seear trustee, which was certified on 21st March—Silveyra was in custody on 1st March, and could not have been present when the accounts were filed on 21st March—they are signed by both, showing assets 3,221
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and estimate of surplus securities 2,366
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there is no examination of either defendant, and no cash and deficiency account—there are six secured creditors.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-153" type="surname" value="SEEAR"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-153" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SEEAR</persName> </hi>. I am a public accountant, of 23, Holborn Viaduct—I was appointed receiver and manager, and afterwards trustee—I have been through the debtors' books; their liabilities are stated at 13,400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the exclusive debts are 8,800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the stock in trade, valued by the debtors at 526
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. have not been realised., but I do not suppose they would realise more than 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at the outside—the book debts, 306
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., are estimated by them to pro
<lb/>duce 230
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but I do not think they have all come in; there is also cash in hand, 34
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; furniture at 13, Frith Street, 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; other private furniture, 123
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the total value outstanding is 2,068
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., which has not yet produced anything, and the committee have decided not to take them out of the hands of the pawnbrokers—the total value of assets received is under 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the stock which I have in hand—the deficiency according to the statement is 5,500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., presuming the surplus realises the sum put down here, but assuming this statement to be correct it would be about 8,300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—they were unquestionably insolvent in October, four months previous to their bankruptcy, and as a matter of book keeping, including stock, having looked through the books I am able to state that the amount of goods they have obtained during those four months is 4,602
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and nothing has been paid in respect of that—I asked Touzon before 21st March where those goods came from, showing him this marked list (produced); it shows some of the creditors from whom the goods were obtained, but some we cannot trace—he said "We pawned the goods in order to pay our bills"—these deposit notes were handed to me by Messrs. Lewis and Lewis—I showed them to Touzon, who gave me information from them—Silveyra was in custody—Mr. Dobree's are 780
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; Mr. R. Starling's, 186
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; Mr. R. C. Vaughan's, 1,100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; Mr. Robert Attenborough's, 1,582
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; Mr. Attenborough's, of Greek Street, 140
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and Mr. T. A. Robinson's, 829
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the annual interest on deposit notes is 15 per cent.; the interest on 5,400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would be about 750
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I have had experience of diamonds and jewellery, but do not know that I can tell their value—I occupy myself with accounts—when I went in as receiver, a ledger, journal, cash book, bill book, and bankers' pass book were produced to me—they are all regular books, and were kept by a book-keeper, but not well kept—the particular transactions are not entered in any of them—I say that an account ought to have been</p>
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<p>opened in the ledger with the different pawnbrokers—I had the deposit notes handed over—I have no proof of any single article pawned of which I have not had information given me—I should not like to swear that all the money raised by loans was not used for the business—I will tell you what I can trace and what I cannot trace by the pass-book—I can fix upon transactions which do not correspond with the money raised—manufactured articles are sold at a larger profit than diamonds—this business began in July, 1874, but it was not at Frith Street all the time, it was partly at 17, Great Titchfield Street, that was the duration of the existence of the firm; as to Silveyra's business before he joined Touzon I have no record—I have known persons start this kind of business with no capital—I find nothing pawned in the first year; in 1875 the payments to pawnbrokers were 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., in 1876 694
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., of which 52
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid back; in 1877 1,430
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. paid back: in 1878, down to the failure 6,019
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 649
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. paid back—Touzon was unable to say every time what the money was paid back for, but where it is stated on the counterparts of the cheques that they were paid for interest we have kept them apart—there were only five pawn-brokers' names in the list instead of seven, because the three Mr. Atten-boroughs are put down as one—the 2,441
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to Mr. Attenborough, of Charlotte Street, Fitzroy Square, includes the three—I believe it is the same gentleman carrying on business in three different places—with regard to the bill-book, I verified the acceptances that have been paid in the usual way—I believe Darby brothers 634
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was the first transaction, that was in December; the next is Keller cousins; they have not had many transactions with them—I am not aware of others—I have had the 34
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in cash, but the furniture has not been sold yet—the private furniture, 123
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., only realised 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., as the landlord of the private house distrained, and it was valued to him for the rent—the only rent down here is in respect of the manufactory, 32
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I have collected about 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of debt, and there is more to come in—the lease is sold—I have not touched the goods at the pawnbrokers'.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>. I have had every facility given me through Touzon for investigating the affairs—he did not keep the books; he gave me information upon every point upon which I required it, but he did not know whether some of the cheques were for interest or for taking goods out of pawn—I do not say that he had as much information regarding financial matters as Silveyra, but he knew of them—the majority of the securities have not yet been realised, but the different merchants who supplied goods have seen them since in the pawnbrokers' hands—I do not propose to go any further into realising the goods pawned, the assets still to get in are the stock in trade, which I am going to realise, and some of the book debts—there are very few debts outstanding—the major portion of the assets as shown by the prisoners I do not intend to realise, as there is no interest to the estate in doing so—I tabulated the statement of affairs from information given me by Touzon, who went occasionally to Silveyra in prison for in
<lb/>formation which he was not able to give me himself—I find by the books that the names of creditors to the firm are limited in number, and that very large payments have been made to some of them during the five years they have been in business—I have referred to the pass-book but not to the bill-book—I find that the prisoners commenced business with a capital of only 78
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I paid Touzon during my receivership while he was giving me the</p>
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<p>information until my appointment as trustee, and there it ended—Touzon was given in custody upon my affidavit of what I found on investigating the affairs after my appointment as trustee, in which he gave me every information.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I was employed to investigate the books and the state of their affairs, and when I found anything I did not understand I went to Touzon for information—I made my report and an affidavit—from the trans
<lb/>actions which are entered in the books a person would not be able to discover that they raised 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by pawnbroking, and were paying 750
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year interest—I got the duplicates from Messrs. Lewis and Lewis, who were acting for the creditors—it is considered that there would be no surplus after paying the pawnbrokers' charges, therefore it would not justify us in taking the goods out—the amount of pawnings during the last four months before they went into liquidation is about 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—half of the whole amount is within the last four months preceding their bankruptcy—if they had not met these bills their credit would have stopped—we hold a bill which the bankers have, and which will not be met till August—the cash is only 34
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Francis Millard. I am a diamond merchant, of 8, Conduit Street, Regent Street—I have known the defendants for the last three years, and have done business with them—on 23rd January this year I had outstanding bills of theirs for 428
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for diamonds purchased of me—I called on them on the afternoon of 22nd January and asked how trade was—Silveyra said very good; I sold some diamonds last week, and if you come to-morrow morning I shall have some more goods"—I said "What time will it be convenient for you to look at them?"—he said "10 o'clock in the morning"—I went there on the 23rd and took some diamonds, but finding that they owed me about 420
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I said "I have been looking at your account; can you pay your acceptances when they fall due I because if you cannot I shall not sell you any more diamonds"—he said" Certainly we can"—I said "You are quite sure of that?"—he said "Yes; what makes you ask such a ques
<lb/>tion?"—I said "I don't care to run any risk in making a bad debt; if you say you can, I will show you some more," and I took a box from my pocket and sold him some more for 154
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., for which he gave me a bill, but I have received nothing on it, and never shall; there is not a farthing in the world for me—I next saw my goods in the police-court, produced by Mr. Vaughan as pawned on 24th January, the day after, at least a parcel of the same size, but being unmounted it is difficult to identify them, as Silveyra had his settings in silver, and he put every stone into the silver settings, and these are the same sized stones in the parcel pawned at Mr. Vaughan's, and the same quality exactly as those I sold on the 23rd—I should not have let him have them except for the statement he made—I have been selling diamonds for 34 years, and that is the first time I ever heard of diamonds bought one day being sold the next.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. In January, 1878, I sold a parcel of stones which I bought for sapphires—when I found that they were not sapphires I took them back at the same price, and lost 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by them—they were not stained crystal, but a new composition—I took one of them to the Geological Society, in Jermyn Street, and asked them to melt it—only one of them had been mounted; that was in a ring which I paid 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for that they might lose nothing—they did not compel me to take them back—I have not got my bill-book here, but I dare say it is correct that on 11th</p>
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<p>January, 1879, I had a bill of 31
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. falling due—I have got it in the pass-book—nobody was present at the conversation but Silveyra and myself—I do not know that what I am asserting to be my diamonds are diamonds pledged by Blagg and Martin—this is the first time I have heard of it—they are exactly the same quality as those I sold on the 23rd, and those were pledged on the 24th—I have not said a word about the weight; there are more in this parcel than I sold; they had some more in stock, and they put them all together—I cannot swear that they are not the property of Blagg and Martin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>. My transaction with the defendants during three years amount to 2,600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of which 582
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. remains due to me—I have received about 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in cash from them—I did not pay 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a carat for the pretended sapphires and sell them at 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I knew both the defendants when they were at Clapham, employed by a firm as. journeymen at weekly wages; they got about 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week or 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a day—I knew nothing about them starting in business for themselves.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. It was in consequence of the diamonds being purchased on the 23rd and pledged on the 24th that I applied for a warrant against Silveyra—the exact amount I sold on the 23rd was 22 carats, and the amount shown to me afterwards was 30 carats.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-154" type="surname" value="HICKS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-154" type="given" value="WILLIAM ALEXANDER JARDINE"/>WILLIAM ALEXANDER JARDINE HICKS</persName> </hi>. I am a diamond merchant in partnership with Leopold Keller, in Hatton Garden—we are creditors of the defendants to the amount of 3,788
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., about 1,800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of which was incurred during the four-months preceding February 26—it is not in my experience in the ordinary course of trade to sell diamonds purchased for the purpose of manufacture—I would not have sold goods if I knew such an idea prevailed—a parcel of diamonds was pledged for 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with Mr. Dobree on 8th February which I believe to have been sold by me on the 4th for 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have not been paid for them—there are five diamonds invoiced on 22nd February on approbation, pawned on 15th February with Mr. Vaughan; I do not know for what amount—he elected to keep them after he had pledged them—they wore sold for the purpose of being mounted—we also sold a parcel of 25 carats on 1st November for 360
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of which we believe those pledged with Mr. Attenborough on 13th November to be a portion.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. We have had dealings with the defendants since 1875—high firms in the jewellery trade do not to my knowledge pledge temporarily—on 30th November we sold them goods amounting to 119
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., but there were none between 18th October and 1st November—there was a bill of 330
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 9th January, for which we found the money, knowing that it had to be met, and here is the cheque—we never got the money—part of our account is money advanced to take up our own bills—the defendants never paid in cash—we had no acceptance paid in January—the last payment to us according to this was on 30th October—Louis Keller and Leopold Keller are brothers—goods on appro
<lb/>bation are paid for at the end of 14 days, but we generally write by courtesy and ask if we may charge—the February parcel went out in January—I did not see Silveyra on the subject, the book-keeper came down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>. We have had transactions with them amounting to about 7,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and payments to about 3,400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—they com
<lb/>menced</p>
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<p>business before us, but I believe we were the first people who gave them credit—I cannot say that they have conducted business ever since without capital, but I believe not much—I always understood that Touzon attended to the workshop—I never received any order from him personally—they have both bought of our firm, but there are four of us.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I have seen Touzon at our place of business—he did not come to buy a hat—we have had 3,0007. odd paid by bills which have been met—if they had not been we should not have gone on—3,788
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is now due.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-155" type="surname" value="KELLER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-155" type="given" value="EDWARD AUGUSTUS"/>EDWARD AUGUSTUS KELLER</persName> </hi>. I am a diamond merchant, of 17, Conduit Street—at the time of the petition for liquidation the defendants owed me 509
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of which 2287. was supplied on 14th February this year, and they filed their petition on 26th February—I have not seen them in the pawn-brokers' hands—it is not the course of business to systematically pledge goods purchased—I should not have supplied my goods if I had known that there was such a practice in their house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I am the son of Leopold Keller—I did not know till after I had sold my goods that my father was supplying money to take up bills—Louis Keller is my uncle—I did not know of his giving the defendants 299
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 16th February—it is not common for an honest tradesman having acceptances to meet to pledge his stock for the purpose—I call them all dishonest who do that—the total amount supplied was 509
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on 22nd January he owed 280
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. only: the other was sold on 14th February.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>. I have had two transactions with the defendants to the value of 509
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and have been paid nothing in respect to either of them—they only commenced in July last.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-156" type="surname" value="KELLER"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-156" type="given" value="FREDERICK EDWARD"/>FREDERICK EDWARD KELLER</persName> </hi>. I am a diamond merchant of Albert House, Holborn Viaduct—at the time of their liquidation the defendants owed me 1,978
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., about 1,300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of that had been supplied to them during the four months preceding 26th February—I have seen a portion of it in the hands of Mr. Attenborough—the weight of them was not exactly the same, but I think the goods were the same—the value of them was 280
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—they are pledged for 110
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I sold them on October 19th.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I represent the firm of Louis Keller-looking at this bill book I am not prepared to say whether we have an acceptance of 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 13th October—it is "Mr. Keller only," here; nor can I tell you whether we had 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 4th November—I have no memoranda for last year—there are so many renewals that I cannot tell you; it says here either that we found the money or a bill was paid for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 4th October. (
<hi rend="italic">The witness was directed to fetch his book</hi>.)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-157" type="surname" value="WILLETT"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-157" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES"/>WILLIAM JAMES WILLETT</persName> </hi>. I am a diamond merchant of Golden Square—at the time of their liquidation the defendants owed me 638
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for goods sold on September 3rd—I believe I saw my goods at Marlborough Street in the possession of Mr. Leopold Keller, but I believe they were produced by one of the Mr. Attenborough's.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I was paid 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 8th January, and subsequently 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the goods I saw in Mr. Attenborough's hands were some rose diamonds which I supplied in July, and on 4th July I received 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on a bill at six months which fell due on 4th January, and I gave Silveyra a cheque for 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to take it up to keep it going, and afterwards, on 8th</p>
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<p>January, he gave me 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and on 3rd February, 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and on 21st January, 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the bill would have been dishonoured but for my finding the money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. A. JONES</hi>. I did not know at that time that my goods were in pledge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-158" type="given" value="HENRY ROBERT"/>HENRY ROBERT ELLIS</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Dobree, of Charlotte Street, Fitzroy Square—I did not know either of the prisoners myself, but on 12th October I received 36 carats of brilliants from Adrian Broquet for 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; they were pledged in July, the interest is 15 per cent.; when we take interest we make a fresh deposit note; we start afresh—I had a deposit note on 21st October, but the pledgings were in June, it was merely interest paid and the debt left; if the interest had not been paid we should have sold the brilliants—on 21st October there was another pledging for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that has been renewed; there was also another renewing in October for 29 carats which were pledged in June; and another on 1st December pledged in June; also a pledging on 3rd December, 1878, for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that was a new transaction; and another new transaction on 8th February, 1879, they were 42 1/16 carats for 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I have been a long time in the trade—I have had many such transactions—it is a very usual practice of jewellers, for temporary accommodation—the pledgings before December run into May, June, and July—the interest was paid, so that the right to get out the articles was left—some of these goods were taken out, and on the same occasion others were put in—it is an ordinary thing to bring other goods, and to redeem previous lots as they have occasion, so that they have our capital to work with at 15 per cent.—trade has been very bad for two or three years—my experience is that pledges are less in bad times than good times—I account for that by there not being such a demand for goods—at the present time diamonds are very low—they advanced about 41. on them, and they would fetch 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a carat; that means 25 per cent. margin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. It is usual to pledge goods for temporary accommodation—I should not think much of it if you pledged your pencil case to pay your cab, but it would depend how often it was done—it has often occurred to me that a man brings 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of diamonds and pledges them, but not for a temporary advance—if he wants money he comes to me to get it, but we will not have it unless we get good security—every tradesman is liable to sudden pressure—it would not be carrying it to an extreme extent to supply tradesmen with capital to carry on their business—it would be highly improbable that they would do so at 15 per cent.—a sudden pressure is one thing, prolonged want of capital is different, but we do not set up to supply tradesmen with funds.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-159" type="given" value="CHARLES BEAUMONT"/>CHARLES BEAUMONT VAUGHAN</persName> </hi>. I am a pawnbroker, of 39, Strand—on 13th February Silveyra pledged with me 20 carats of brilliants for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on 13th September 30 carats for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., on 30th September 30 carats more, and on 4th November 48 loose brilliants and some earrings for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I consider this (
<hi rend="italic">Looking at a deposit note</hi>) to be quite a new transaction, the first we settled by the payment of interest, And the second pledgings were begun—on 16th January, 1879, he pledged 40 carats for 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on 24th January a brooch and earrings and 30 carats of diamonds for 220
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 30th February some necklets, three rings, a brooch, and five loose brilliants, for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I gave the money to Silveyra—he brought the goods personally.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I have known him from the first pledging—on 24th January there were new articles waiting for a customer, manu
<lb/>factured articles, and on 13th February manufactured articles also—I do not think Silveyra brought some articles to pledge for the purpose of redeeming other articles—Blogg and Martin asked to see the goods claimed by Mr. Miller, and I refused—they said that they sold Silveyra a parcel of the same weight—it is not at all unreasonable to raise money on precious stones not manufactured into jewellery; it enables tradesmen to carry on their business—persons of the highest reputation in London do so—these pledgings were not pledged up to the value of the goods—he was in each case supplied with the exact amount he asked for—the margin we take differs sometimes; it may be 25 per cent., and here are some he was charged 7 per cent for where we lent 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there has been a fall in the value of diamonds lately, and a diminution in the number of people buying them—during the last 18 months there have not been so many people able to buy diamonds as there used to be.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I know that jewellers do pledge constantly—I represent that it is usual for manufacturing jewellers to pledge with us to take up bills to carry on their business—I do not know whether that depends on the state of their account, I only know the facts or part of them—when I said 71. a carat for which we should give 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I qualify that by "perhaps"—I still hold the goods in every one of these transactions—no one can get them without paying off the percentage.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-160" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR WILSON</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Attenborough, of Greek Street, Soho—on November 30th Silveyra pledged some brilliants and other pro
<lb/>perty with me for 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the deposit-note was made out to Touzon and Silveyra—Touzon was not with him—on February 6th I advanced 1001 to Silveyra on some brooches in the name of. Touzon and Silveyra—Touzon was not present.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. Silveyra has been in the habit of pawning there for perhaps two years—he has redeemed several parcels—there has been no forfeiture during the last four months—the articles on November 30th were one ring and 10 carats of brilliants—he has occasion
<lb/>ally pledged brilliants unset—manufacturing jewellers continually pledge their stock in order to carry on their business; very respectable houses—I simply advanced Silveyra the money that he asked—there was perhaps rather less than 25 per cent. margin—he told me he was pledging for the purpose of meeting bills falling due.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>. I have never seen Touzon. Re-examined. There is no power of forfeiture, only a power of safe—it I had sold, and there was a balance, it would have been handed over to him—I did not know that he was depositing with six or seven other pawn-brokers at the same time, but if I had I should have accepted the goods, con
<lb/>sidering it a temporary pressure in the ordinary course of business—I asked him whether the goods were his own property, but not each time—he showed me his pass-book on several occasions, which gave me confidence in him to advance the money—I should not have advanced it, whether they had been obtained on credit or not if they were equal to the amount asked.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-161" type="surname" value="REYNOLDS"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-161" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD REYNOLDS</persName> </hi>. I am general manager to Mr. Attenborough, of Charlotte Street—on November 21st, 1878, Silveyra renewed one pledge</p>
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<p>for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and another of brilliants for 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on November 7th, 1878, there was an original pledging by Broquet—the statement is, "Deposit, A. Broquet"—on November 13th, 1878, Silveyra deposited 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of brilliants—Touzon was not present, and on November 14th there was a renewal of goods pledged by Silveyra in 1877—the same transaction had been going on at interest of 15 per cent.—on November 16th there was a renewal of 69
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on brilliants, and another of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on the next day of 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on November 14th Broquet pledged 15 carats of brilliants for 140
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and some more 16 days afterwards for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on February 28th 25 carats for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on November 29th a renewal of 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for earrings; December, 1879, an original pawning by Broquet for 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on January 9th 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on brilliants; on January 11th 75
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and January 23rd 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., all by Broquet, and all original pawnings.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. The majority of pledgings are brilliants—the total amount of loan on the old pledgings is about 1500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of which about 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was before October 21st, 1878—1000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in November is for renewals, and the remaining 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is for brilliants, but there are manufactured goods among them, bracelets and rings—I allow 15 to 20 per cent, margin in the value of the brilliants to cover my risk—there has been a great fall in brilliants during the Last 18 months—I have been in business 25 years-manufacturing jewellers do pledge their stock constantly to carry on business—I knew that Touzon and Silveyra were manufacturing jewellers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>. Touzon was never at my place. Re-examined. If I knew that a man was 4,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in debt and had got 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of goods on credit, I should say that it was not in the usual way of business to take those goods to a pawnbroker and raise money on them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-162" type="given" value="ADRIAN"/>ADRIAN BROQUET</persName> </hi>. I am a dealer in watches at 5, Torrington Square—I have pledged a great number of brilliants for the defendants within the last four months and before—I pledged for them the goods spoken of by Mr. Reynolds—Silveyra brought them to me, but I have sometimes given the proceeds to Touzon, and had conversations with him about them—he knew how the money had been got—I have had conversations with both defendants about pledging goods before they were pledged, and they always said that it was for business only, and that their profits were so good that they would pull through—sometimes one and sometimes the other gave me that reason for pledging goods, and sometimes they have been together—on 8th February last I got 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for 42 carats of plain diamonds, and gave the money to Touzon—I had these conversations with Touzon six months ago.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I know nothing about the bookkeeping—I had nothing to do with paying the money into the bank.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. JONES</hi>. I received the instructions to pawn invariably from Silveyra, and not from Touzon—he was chiefly employed in the workshop—I have known the defendants many years; I knew them when they were at Clapham—I was a helper in their commencing business. Re-examined. I assisted them to start—they sometimes came to me and sometimes I was taking diamonds to offer them—I live nearly ten minutes' walk from them—my services were only a matter of friendship; I never got a shilling commission—sometimes Silveyra came to my place and sometimes Touzon, and sometimes Silveyra sent a boy to my place, or I was taking goods to their office.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-163" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE CARTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 308
<hi rend="italic">E</hi>). I took the prisoners on warrants, Silveyra on 28th February and Touzon on 25th March.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. Silveyra was at 13, Frith Street, sitting in the room with the receiver; that was on the charge Mr. Miller set on foot about the diamonds, the only charge then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-164" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK KELLER</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>). On October 3rd they had a cheque for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to meet a bill; on October 22nd a cheque for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to meet a bill coming due on the 23rd; on January 11th a cheque of 406
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to meet a bill of 406
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; and on January 14th a cheque of 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to meet a payment of 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on January 15th—they paid 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on October 13th, 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on November 4th, and also 75
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; on November 15th, 173
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 207
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on December 4th, 76
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on December 13th, 181
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; on 24th January, 208
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—that is over 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in cash besides meeting the bills—I think those were the only cases when I applied money to meet bills—up to that time I do not think they had been in want of money to meet our bills—we commenced business with them in 1876.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BULWER</hi>. They have paid us 1,800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and they owe us 1,900
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on the first</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">Counts only.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday</hi>, 28
<hi rend="italic">th May</hi>, 1879.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GORE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RAVEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Prosecuted.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18790526-name-168" type="given" value="WILLIAM GEORGE"/>WILLIAM GEORGE REEVE</persName> </hi>. I am now a prisoner in Newgate—I pleaded guilty in January last to two charges of forging and uttering a cheque for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on the Imperial Bank, and a cheque for 97
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on the City Bank—in 1877 I was office boy to Dudgeon and Co.—I left their service in June, 1878, and went to my uncle's, and was afterwards out of work—I am 16 years of age—I first met the prisoner on 19th November, 1878—I was standing in the street outside the Elephant and Castle public-house, Newington, when the prisoner spoke to me and said"I think I have seen your face before; where do you live and where do you work?"—I said "I have just left Nunhead and am out of work and have left home"—he said"If you like, me and you will work and live together; where are you lodging?"—I said "Nowhere"—he said"I can give you a lodging for the night," and then we went to No. 26, Parsonage Walk, Newington, where he and a woman named Hancock occupied a room together—I slept there that night—Mrs. Rand is the landlady—the next morning, the 20th, I went with the prisoner to the City, and we walked about and returned to Parsonage Walk in the evening, and we had a conversation which he began—he said"About the bank accounts; if we can write out an order for a cheque"—he asked me where Messrs. Dudgeon banked; I told him at first that they were my late employers, and he asked me where they kept their banking account,. and he said "If we can write an order for a cheque-book on the Imperial</p>
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<p>Bank, and can get the cheques, we can get the money; can you sign Mr. Dudgeon's name to the cheque?"—I said"Yes"—I slept that night in the prisoner's room; the woman Hancock was there then, and on the previous night—I went out the next day with the prisoner to a coffee-shop in Camberwell Road or Kennington Lane, and he there said"We'll write out the order for the cheque-book to-day"—we returned to Parsonage Walk, where I wrote out an order in his presence on the Imperial Bank for a cheque-book of 100 cheques—he produced the paper and pen and ink—we then went to the Imperial Bank, Lothbury, and at the corner of Prince's Street he said "If you get one of the paying-in slips out of the bank it will take them off their guard, "and I went in and got the paying-in slip, and when I came out the prisoner was at the corner of Prince's Street, opposite the bank—I returned with him to Parsonage"Walk and wrote there in his presence this order. (
<hi rend="italic">Written on the back of a paying in slip of the Imperial Bank</hi>: "Thursday, 21st, 1878. Please send per bearer a cheque-book containing 100 cheques, and oblige yours truly, A. J. Dudgeon.") The prisoner saw me write it—I then destroyed the one I had previously written in his presence—I went to the bank with the prisoner and took the fresh order to one of the clerks, who gave me a cheque-book for 100 cheques—tho prisoner waited for me opposite the bank, at the corner of Prince's Street, and we went back, returning to Parsonage Walk about 11 o'clock—I then took out one of the cheques in the prisoner's presence and wrote the cheque produced. ("No. C. 144901. 6, Lothbury, London, Thursday, 21st November, 1878. The Imperial Bank, Limited Pay office or bearer 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. A. J. Dudgeon.") The amount was suggested by the prisoner—I gave the cheque to the prisoner and returned with him to the Imperial Bank, and he waited outside as before while I went in—I presented it and got the money in gold—I gave the prisoner 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and kept the rest myself, and we went to the Crystal Palace together at my expense and stayed till evening, when I returned with him to Parsonage Walk, and slept there again—Hancock was there—this was the evening of the 21st, and I slept there till the 25th November—I went out during the day to places of amuse
<lb/>ment with the prisoner—on the 25th he said"Ain't your money nearly gone? mine is; I think we had better have some more"—my money was nearly gone—he asked me where Dudgeon and Co. kept the company's account—the Imperial Bank was the private account—I said "At the City Bank, Finch Lane"—he said"Will you write out another order?"—I said "Yes," and he gave me the paper and I wrote out in his presence this order for a cheque-book. ("10, London Street, 25th November, 1878. Sir,—Please supply per bearer one cheque-book containing 200 cheques, and oblige, J. W. Cooper, secretary, Dudgeon and Co., Limited.") At the bottom is Written "Received by G. W. Richardson"—I wrote that when I went to the bank, and invented the name myself at the bank—the order was written in the prisoner's room in his presence, and we then went together in a cab to the City Bank, Finch Lane, Cornhill—I had been with Dudgeon and Co. as office boy and knew they had an account there; I used to go there with letters—I do not know if their address was printed on their letter paper—we left the cab at the top of Finch Lane, and the prisoner waited at the top of Cornhill, about 100 yards distant, while I went to the bank—I gave the order to one of the clerks, who gave me the cheque-book, and I rejoined the prisoner and returned with him in a cab to his room in Parsonage Lane,</p>
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<p>where I took out one of the cheques and wrote this in his presence, he suggesting the amount ("3 J. 69203. Threadneedle Street, corner of Finch Lane, London, 25/78. City Bank. Pay yard expenses or bearer 97
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. J. W. Cooper, Dudgeon and Co., Limited.") I suggested yard expenses and he agreed to it—we then returned to the bank in a cab and he waited again at the same place while I went in and presented the cheque, which they cashed for me all in gold, and I rejoined the prisoner and gave him 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this was November 25th—the prisoner then proposed we should buy a pony and trap, and said he knew of one for sale in Bethnal Green Road—I agreed, and we went there together to Mr. Silverton's—the prisoner waited opposite in a public-house, and I bought the pony and dog-cart and paid 33
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it—I took it to the public-house and the prisoner got into the trap and we drove to the Elephant and Castle, where we picked up Hancock and another woman who I had seen before with her—we took them in the trap to the Crystal Palace, and stayed there till evening; I paid all the expenses—I carried the money in my pocket—on returning in the evening we agreed to put the pony and trap up at the Artichoke public-house in the Borough Road, and the prisoner drove there with me and spoke to the ostler, and we left it there and went into the public-house, and remained there talking and drinking from between 8 and 9 till about 12 o'clock that night—we paid in turns for the drink—on leaving we returned to Parsonage"Walk and took two small bottles of whisky we had bought at the Artichoke—we found Hancock at Parsonage Walk, and we bad supper in the prisoner's room and finished the whisky, and I became intoxicated—I slept there, and got up about 8 in the morning, and found there was no one there—I fetched the pony and trap from the Artichoke, and left it outside with a boy, and I went back to bed and slept till 1 o'clock, when the landlady woke me up and said something to me, and I found that I had lost 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from my pocket, nearly all the money I had, and the prisoner and Hancock had gone—they had said nothing to me about going—the two women were with us all the time at the Crystal Palace the day before, and on returning we left them at the corner of the Elephant and Castle at 8 o'clock—I saw Hancock again when we got back to Parsonage Walk—I did not see the other woman again that night—on coming down at 1 o'clock I found the pony and trap still outside the door, and I took a drive, and then took it back to the Artichoke—when I got up first at 8 o'clock I left the money in the room in my trousers pocket—the trousers were wet—I did not look for it till 1 o'clock—I was arrested some days after—I found these three books (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) in the prisoner's room, and believe they are his—I put them at the back of the pony and trap on the 26th, so that if I should be arrested it would lead to the prisoner being taken—I had no authority from Dudgeon or Dudgeon and Co. to sign their name to the cheques.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. You were out of employment when I first saw you—I did not meet Miss Hancock in town the evening before I brought the pony and trap to Parsonage Walk—I purchased her a hat and gloves on the night of the 24th, I think—I had not the trap then, so I did not promise to bring it to take you to the Crystal Palace next morning—the trap was purchased on the 25th—I was never at Parsonage Walk with the trap any morning at 9.30 while you lived there, only on the morning of the 25th, and when I came from the Crystal Palace in the evening I left Miss Hancock and the other girl at the Elephant and Castle—I did not leave you</p>
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<p>there; we both went together in the trap—I had my supper in your room about half-past 12 or 1 o'clock, and only you and Hancock were there—we went to the Crystal Palace in the morning before dinner on the 25th—I had bought the pony and trap in the morning—you were never there after the 25th—I did not tell the landlady that I had lost 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the 28th November—I was not there on the 28th; it was on the 26th I lost 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—she cannot give the date—I put up the pony and trap at the Artichoke on the evening of the 25th, when we returned form the Crystal Palace—only you and Hancock lived in the room.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I bought the ponny and trap, I think, on the 25th November, the same morning I cashed the cheque for 97
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. at the City Bank—it was the next morning, the 26th, I was at parsonage Walk with the pony and trap. When I found that the prisoner had disappeared with the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,—it was Saturday night, I think, the 24th or 23rd, when I bought Hancock a bonnet.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. I met the prisoner on 19th November at the Elephant and Castle—he said he was a commercial traveller—I have wrote an order for the cheque-book for Dudgeon and Co. before—I have been sent by them to the back for the pass-book—I have never had to write a signature for the firm on any occasion—I believe the Artichoke is in the Borough Road.</p>
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<persName id="t18790526-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-169" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-169" type="surname" value="RAND"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-169" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY RAND</persName> </hi>. I am a widow at 26, Parsonage Walk, Newington Butts—my husband was alive in November last—the prisoner and a woman named Hancock lodge with me, and occupied one room in November last for three weeks—they came together as Mr. and Mrs. Waterfield, and passed as man and wife, and I did not know at first that the woman's name was Hancock—the witness Reeve came there, and I have seen him coming in and going out with the prisoner several times—they came home one morning in a cab, and I have seen them out in a pony and trap together—I recollect going into the prisoner's room and waking Reeve one morning at 1 o'clock when the trap was outside—he looked stupefied—I had a conversation with him—Waterfield and the woman had gone—she had left her boxes, and I have them now—the room was in confusion, and the lamp was burning—I have had an application for them—she is in the neighbourhood—she smashed my looking-glass, and they left without notice, and were a week's rent in debt—my husband saw them there the night before they disappeared, and asked for the rent—the prisoner never returned or made any communication to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I do not know if another woman lived there with Hancock; there were people up and down—I saw some woman there—my husband has spoken to Hancock about her being there, and said he would not have it—I cannot remember how often I have seen you and Reeve together, or whether you were there on the morning of the 27th November—I said at the Guildhall"The woman went away on the Thursday morning; about 1 o'clock of the afternoon I went up into the room and found Reeve asleep in bed"—it was Thursday—I think there was some paper and ink there, but I left the room till my husband came home—you had no ink or paper from me—I cannot say if any writing materials were there—Hancock wrote to me from Birmingham, and asked me to put all the things together and she would forward me the 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the address she gave me had not Waterfield upon it—I sent it to the police-court, and have not seen it since.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. This is the letter and address and the envelope. (
<hi rend="italic">Letter addressed to</hi>"The lady of the house, 28, Parsonage Walk, Newington Butts, London. Madam,—You will no doubt think it strange me leaving you in such a hurry. If you will keep the box and all the things I will send for them in a few weeks' time. I left you in debt 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., one week's rent, and broke a glass, which I value at 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., which amounts to 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. Put all the things together, and tell me if they are all right You oblige yours sincerely, Nelly Norman. Write and I shall know what to do."
<hi rend="italic">Address enclosed</hi>:"R. Norman, No. 1, back of 81, Edward Street, Parade, Bir
<lb/>mingham.") I had no rent-book and kept no memorandum.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-170" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-170" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-170" type="surname" value="SILVERTON"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-170" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SILVERTON</persName> </hi>. I am a carman and contractor, at 28, Old Castle Street, Bethnal Green—in November last I had a pony and trap advertised for sale, and the witness Reeve gave me 33
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it and took it away with him—I next saw it near the London Road in custody of the police.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. After Reeve bought the trap I was over at the public-house, and he came there to me, but I did not see you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I was in the side bar—I have never seen the prisoner until at the Guildhall.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. It did not strike me as wrong to sell the pony and trap to Reeve or I should not have done so; he was smartly dressed, and looked different then—my son, a boy 14, sold him the cart and gave me the money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-171" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-171" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-171" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-171" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am foreman to Mr. Tilly, livery-stable keeper, Artichoke Mews; it is close to the Artichoke public-house, Newington Causeway, about 200 yards from Borough Road—some time in November last a man came to our yard and went away and came again with Reeve—the other man was taller and older, but I could not identify him, as it was dark, and I could not see his face—he brought a pony and cart and arranged that I should keep it there—this was the 27th—he took it there that night, and it remained till the following Monday—I do not remember the date when he brought the pony.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. Reeve was there on the 27th, but not on 25th or 26th—I never saw you there with Reeve—I can swear to Reeve.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. I should say 33
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was a fair price for the pony and trap—I saw Reeve with some man, but I could not say it was the prisoner—I know the date, the 27th, by my book.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-172" type="surname" value="CLARK"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-172" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am a glass manufacturer, at 42, Warwick Street, Blackfriars Road—I recollect finding a pony and trap in my yard on the 3rd December when I got up in the morning, since which time it has been in the custody of Police Sergeant Smith—I recollect forcing open the boot and finding the books produced.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-173" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-173" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-173" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-173" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Sergeant</hi>). I had Beevs in custody on 20th December, and he volunteered a statement which lei to my going to. 26, Parsonage Walk and making inquiries about the prisoner, whom I afterwards traced to Leicester and Birmingham—on 12th February I received a warrant for his arrest, and was at Birmingham on 12th April at the Moor Street Police Station, and saw the prisoner, who had just been ac
<lb/>quitted on a charge of felony before the Recorder at the Birmingham Sessions—I said "I am a police officer, and I have a warrant for your arrest"—I read the warrant to him; the prisoner pointed to the body of the warrant relating to the forging and uttering of the two cheques in question, and I</p>
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<p>read it again—no one else was mentioned in the warrant—he said "I shall get over that as I have over this"—I said "You know who you are charged with?" he said "Oh, yes; I know all about it; I have heard of it and seen the newspapers"—I was in Court when Reeve pleaded guilty at this Court—no reference to Waterfield was made then, but it was mentioned by Reeve on the committal—I brought the prisoner to London, and charged him at Bishopsgate Street Station on the warrant, and he made no answer—I searched him and found upon him 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I afterwards went and found the pony and cart at Mr. Hill's and the boot was forced open in my presence and by my orders, and these books found containing references to the prisoner—I heard Reeve give his evidence in the Justice Room on 30th April last—he said "We went together and two women to the Crystal Palace on the 25th November"—Waterfield corrected him and said "No, it was the 27th.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. You had been employed at Birmingham as superin
<lb/>tendent of the Branch Workhouse—I was at Birmingham on 14th February, and the warrant was handed to the Magistrate to be "backed" or signed in case of your acquittal—the man charged with you was admitted to bail—I believe your home is in Birmingham.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-174" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-174" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-174" type="surname" value="KIRBY"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-174" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE KIRBY</persName> </hi>. I am cashier at the Imperial Bank, Lothbury—Dudgeon and Co. have a private account there—this order, dated 21st November, for 100 cheques was presented at the bank, and the cheques given were numbered 144901 to 145301, and this cheque marked D for 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was presented the same day and paid in gold—it is the first out of the cheque-book.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-175" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-175" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-175" type="surname" value="DUDGEON"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-175" type="given" value="ALEXANDER JOHN"/>ALEXANDER JOHN DUDGEON</persName> </hi>. I am a director of Dudgeon and Co., Limited, London Street, and keep a private account at the Imperial Bank, and the firm keep an account with the City Bank—the order for cheques on the Imperial Bank and the cheque for 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. are not written by me or by my authority—Reeve was employed by us as office-boy, and used to go to the bank to change cheques—I had drawn a cheque about three weeks before 21st November—my cheque-books are generally payable to bearer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-176" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18790526-name-176" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-176" type="surname" value="PERDUE"/>
<interp inst="t18790526-name-176" type="given" value="WILLIAM ERNEST"/>WILLIAM ERNEST PERDUE</persName> </hi>. I am cashier at the City Bank, Threadneedle Street—this order for a book of 200 cheques was presented by Reeve, and I gave him a cheque-book numbered E. J. 69201 to 69400—on the same day this cheque for 971. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was presented by Reeve, and I paid him in gold—it is the second cheque in the book, E. J. 69202.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18790526-name-177" type="witnessName"