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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OWDEN, MAYOR. NINTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, June</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18780624-594-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>to unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Twelve Months' Imprisonment</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
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<lb/>ment of 140
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud. </rs>
<hi rend="italic">He received a good character.—
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., with intent to defraud.—</rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-7" type="given" value="MINNIE"/>MINNIE DANCE</persName> </hi>. I serve at the Bay Malton public-house, Great Port
<lb/>land Road, kept by Mr. Hibbert—on 20th May, between 5 and 6 o'clock, I served the prisoner with twopennyworth of gin—she put down a shilling—I put it in the tester. found it was bad, and gave it to the bar
<lb/>man—Mr. Hibbert came in, and gave the prisoner into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I did not put it in the till—the young man did not jump over the counter—he went straight to the door—I am sure this is the shilling.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-8" type="given" value="KEZIAH"/>KEZIAH KNOTT</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Bay Malton—I saw the prisoner come in—the last witness handed me the shilling after making a cross on it, and I took it upstairs to Mr. Hibbert, who sent for a constable, and came downstairs—no young man jumped over the counter—Mr. Henry Phould was there, but he took no part in the transaction.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The coin was never put in the till—you wanted to go, but you were detained.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-9" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HIBBERT</persName> </hi>. I keep the Bay Malton—on 20th May, between 5 and 6 o'clock, the last witness gave me a bad shilling upstairs—I went into the bar, and gave the prisoner in custody with the coin.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 450
<hi rend="italic">E</hi>). The prisoner was given into my charge with the coin—she said that she had been to the Royal Oak with a return ticket from Portland Road station, which is the nearest station to the publichouse, that she tendered a half-crown at the booking, office, received two shillings and a penny, and did not know the shilling was bad—I took her to the station—she said she was a dressmaker—I received from the female searcher, as found on her, a half-crown, two shillings, and four pence three farthings good money—she was taken to the police-court, remanded till the 23rd, and discharged.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I knew you before—the shilling was never put into the till—it never left my hand till Mr. Rock came.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-12" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROCK</persName> </hi>. My father keeps the Earl Russell, Charles Street, Middle
<lb/>sex Hospital—I saw the prisoner put down a shilling on 24th April—the last witness took it up, and I took it out of her hand and found it was bad—I did not bend it—the change was given to the woman, and she left and got about 30 yards from the house when they were given in custody—the prisoner said that she did not know that the shilling was bad—I handed it to the inspector—about 5 o'clock next morning I picked up two pieces of paper each containing a shilling—they were lying close together after the bar was swept out—I gave them to the constable—we had closed at 12.30.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not take it from the till, but from the barmaid's hand.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective E</hi>). On 24th May I saw the prisoner walking up and down outside the Black Horse, Oxford Street—she then went in, and came out in about a minute, and went to the Wheatsheaf, Rathbone Place, but came out again in consequence of the landlord being in the bar, and went through Charlotte Place and Goodge Street into Charles Street, Middlesex Hospital, where she joined a woman named Wise—they conversed together about five minutes, and then went to the Earl Russell—I went into the private bar and spoke to Mr. Rock—he came out with me, and the two women then came out at the Wells Street door—Mr. Rock gave the prisoner in charge for passing a bad shilling—she said "My God, am I to be charged with this?"—Wells said that she went in with Goddard to have a drop of gin, but knew nothing about it—Mr. Rock gave me this shilling and five others wrapped in paper—I have kept them till now—the prisoner was searched, and a shilling, two six-pences, a penny, a postage stamp, and a small key found on her—the money was in the purse, it is all good.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">JANE RICHARDS</hi>. My father keeps the Shakespere in Cambridge Road, Kilburn—on 29th May, about 11 p.m., Goddard came in with a man who is not here, ordered a pint of stout and mild, and tendered a shilling—I found it was bad, and gave it to my father, who said it was bad, and that he believed Goddard had been there before—they were both taken to the station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GLLL</hi>. He was nearly half an hour in the house—the tester was facing where he stood, and I tried the coin before I spoke to my father—I did not leave the bar—there is a passage, and we serve both sides of the bar—I did not hear Goddard give his address—I had seen them before—I did not say anything before the Magistrate about another man being there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-19" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM RICHARDS</persName> </hi>. I am the father of the last witness, and keep the Shakespere public-house—I was in the bar near my daughter who came across to me, and said in Goddard's hearing "This is a bad shilling, I think the same parties have tried it on with me before"—Goddard was with another man who is not here, and I said to him "What do you mean by this?"—he said "What do you mean?"—I said "It is a bad shilling"—he said "I suppose you would like me to give you another for it, after that girl has been hawking it all round the bar? What do you take me for? Do you take me for a
<hi rend="italic">mug</hi>? I am worth quite as much money as you are"—I said "
<hi rend="italic">Jim</hi>, fetch a policeman"—the other man was silent—Goddard said "There, I will show I am not without money, take it out of that," throwing down a half-sovereign—the policeman came in ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I gave one in custody, but they took two—I charged Goddard—he was taken before a Magistrate next morning, and discharged about 11.30—I marked the shilling, and gave it to the police.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GILL</hi>. It is a long bar divided by a counter—I was about two yards from my daughter, and ten feet from Goddard—there is a low screen, but I can look under or over it—no one else was serving—no doubt Goddard heard my daughter say "Father, here is a bad shil
<lb/>ling"—Goddard abused me, and said "You think you are going to
<hi rend="italic">best</hi> me," meaning to substitute a bad shilling for a good one—he knew I had sent for a policeman—the other man was discharged—the shilling was not handed over the screen; my daughter put it into my hand.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I had my back to the door, so that he could not get away if he tried.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-20" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-20" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-20" type="surname" value="WICKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-20" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WICKINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 438
<hi rend="italic">X</hi>). On 29th May, about 11.15 p.m., I was called to the Shakespere and took Goddard—he said at the station</p>
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<p>that he offered Mr. Richards his name and address, and he thought that was sufficient—Mr. Richards gave me this shilling—the other man was not charged.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I understand that he gave a correct address—I found on him 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and a half-sovereign, which was given back to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Greenstreet</hi>. You are not the man who was charged at Kilburn.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-21" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-21" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-21" type="given" value="MARION"/>MARION JENKINS</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the Hope Tavern, Porchester Street, Paddington—on 30th May, between 3 and 4 p.m., the prisoners same in—Greenstreet called for a pint of half-and-half, which came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and gave me a bad shilling—while I was examining it, but before I said anything, Goddard said "Give him the bad shilling back, and I will take this beer," and put down four halfpence—I picked up the halfpence, and said "Alter I have examined the shilling you shall have it"—I then put it in the tester and found it was bad—I kept it, and said that I should have them searched—Greenstreet said "Let us drink up and go out"—I ran round the bar and caught hold of Goddard; he tried to strike me, but I drew my head back, and they got away—I sent for a constable and went outside the house and ran after them—two sawdust boys in the bar came out, and I sent them after the prisoners—I went to the station between 5 and 6, and handed the shilling to the sergeant.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GILL</hi>. I do not remember which of them asked for the beer—the coppers were put down a little while after the shilling—I spoke loudly when I sent the boy for a policeman, and I suppose the prisoners heard it—I put the shilling in the tester, which is on the edge of the till; but it did not leave my hand—I then put it on one side—I am positive it did not go into the till—it did not take me a second to get from where I was to where they were.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Greenstreet</hi>. I did not say "If you don't get out of the house I will send for a policeman"—I said "Don't leave this house till I have you searched."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-22" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-22" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-22" type="surname" value="POND"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-22" type="given" value="JOHN SAYERS"/>JOHN SAYERS POND</persName> </hi>. I am a sawdust man, and live at 29, William Street, Lisson Grove—on the afternoon of 30th May I was in the Hope public-house and saw the two prisoners there—the barmaid said "This is a bad shilling; I have a good mind to lock you up"—the barmaid said to me "Will you fetch a policeman?"—I went out, but could not see one—I came back, and the prisoners had just got outside—the barmaid got hold of Goddard, who made a strike at her—I left my barrow with a companion and went with Fitzroy after the prisoners, who walked down to the corner of Lower Porchester Street, and when they got across Edgware Road they saw us and began to run—I ran round a corner and met them at the other end walking pretty quick—I followed them through several streets, and at last caught hold of Greenstreet—that was three quarters of an hour after he left the public-house—he asked me to hare a drop of beer—I said "No; come down to your mats"—he struggled, but did not get away—Goddard was in the street all the time; he made no attempt to run away—we all four went to the St. Andrew public-house, Baker Street, and when they were inside I fetched a policeman, while Fitz stood against the door—they were then given in custody—I had followed them about three hours.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GILL</hi>. Goddard made a strike at the barmaid</p>
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<p>when she had hold of his arm—I had hold of Greenstreet twenty minutes and had a struggle with him, while Goddard sat on a railing—I asked a little
<hi rend="italic">chap</hi> to fetch a policeman, but he would not—when Goddard left the Hope he walked to the corner—I do not suggest that he ran—I was look
<lb/>ing for a policeman three hours and could not find one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Greenstreet</hi>. You asked me to have something to drink—I did not say "If you treat me and let me know where you got the shilling I will let you go"—you said that you had got change for a half-crown in Edgware Road.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I never lost sight of them from the time they left the house till I gave them in custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-23" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-23" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-23" type="surname" value="FITZ"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-23" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES FITZ</persName> </hi>. I am a sawdust man—I was outside the Hope with a barrow—I saw the prisoners come out one after the other and saw Mrs. Jenkins's arm go up when the door opened—they went round the corner, and then Pond came out and went after them—I left my barrow in charge of a boy—they saw us behind them, and cut across the mews round Edgware Road across Seymour Street, and we went round another way and caught them against a public-house—we saw no policeman during that time—Pond and Greenstreet had a scuffle and a roll in the road—Goddard said "What are you two fellows following us for?"—I said we were going to give them in custody for passing bad money—he said "Come in here and have a pint of beer; take this half-crown and let the two of us go"—the others came up, and we all four went into a public-house at the corner of Baker Street—Pond went outside, and came back in a minute with a policeman, and the prisoners were taken to the station—it was between two and three hours from the time they left the Hope till they were given in custody—Goddard and I sat on a rail together—that is where he offered me the half-crown.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GILL</hi>. When the prisoners saw us they quickened their pace, and crossing Edgware Road they ran—they did not say anything when we took them—there was a mob round them while the struggle was going on—I did not go for a policeman, because I could not leave Goddard—I had not got hold of him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Greenstreet</hi>. I saw you struggling with Pond—I do not exactly know whether you rolled in the road, but there was a mob, and you had a struggle.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-24" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-24" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-24" type="surname" value="BARNES"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-24" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BARNES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 262). On 30th May, about 4.55, Pond fetched me to St. Andrew's public-house at the corner of Baker Street—I had not seen the prisoners before that—I told them the charge—Goddard said "I have got no bad money about me"—on the way to the station Goddard said "We have done it this time"—Greenstreet said "I think so"—I found on Goddard a half-sovereign, 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver, and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and on Greenstreet 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the sergeant gave me this bent florin tendered at the Hope.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GILL</hi>. I was not on the beat, I was coming from drill—they walked quietly to the station, one on each side of me—I made this memorandum of the conversation the same night, but did not report it to the inspector—I told the Magistrate I had torn the memo
<lb/>randum out of a book.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Greenstreet</hi>. Another policeman came afterwards, but the conversation was before he joined us.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I took both prisoners out of the public-house, and met the other constable 10 or 12 yards off—I made a mistake in saying I</p>
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<p>tore the report out of a book, I keep the paper in a book, and took a piece out—I do not make an entry in the book till cases are settled.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-25" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-25" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-25" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Greenstreet's Defence</hi>. I met a man and asked him to drink. He said, "Don't you pay for it, I will pay." I put down a shilling as he put down coppers. It is not likely I should go with him and offer a bad coin, knowing he had been discharged that morning.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> on the third count</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-600-18780624 t18780624-600-punishment-7"/>.—Nine Months' Imprisonment each</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, June</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Justice Manisty</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELLEN ELIZABETH HUTCHCRAFT</hi> (20)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780624-601-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="infanticide"/>, For the wilful murder of her newborn child.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. A. B. KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GAGHAN</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.—
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, June</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERIC STEELE</hi> (62),</persName>
<rs id="t18780624-602-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780624-602-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-602-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="bankrupcy"/>Unlawfully omitting to deliver up to his trustees in bankruptcy the whole of his property,</rs> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH STEELE</hi> (40)</persName> and
<persName id="def3-602-18780624" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def3-602-18780624" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ABLETT PETTIT</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18780624-602-offence-2" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780624-602-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-602-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="bankrupcy"/>aiding and abetting him in committing that offence.
<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> for conspiracy.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">Frederick Steels</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to all the Counts except those for conspiracy</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BULWER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Steele, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LOCXWOOD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Pettit</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-30" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-30" type="surname" value="STACEY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-30" type="given" value="HENRY ALFRED"/>HENRY ALFRED STACEY</persName> </hi>. I am superintendent of the Records of the London Bankruptcy Court—I produce the proceedings under the liquida
<lb/>tion petition filed by Frederick Steele on 6th November, 1877—he describes himself as of 16, Wilton Place, Brompton, Middlesex, of no occupation—on 9th November it appears that an order was made appointing Robert Gardner as receiver—the London and Provincial Bank are creditors for 668
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the first meeting of creditors was on 27th November, but the bankrupt did not appear—his debts as stated in the petition were between 900
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it is not cast up—I produce the bankruptcy proceed
<lb/>ings—the petition for adjudication in bankruptcy was filed on 29th Nov., 1877—the act of bankruptcy set out was his having failed to petition for liquidation previously—he set out the amount of his debts as 950
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but I don't think he filed a statement of his assets—he was adjudicated bank
<lb/>rupt on 19th December, and it appears by an affadavit of Terry, filed on 19th December, that he was served with a copy of the petition on 4th December—the notice of the adjudication and of the first meeting of creditors appears in the
<hi rend="italic">London Gazette</hi> of December 21st—it is in the
<hi rend="italic">Standard</hi> of 22nd December—it appears that on 21st December he was served with a notice that he had been adjudicated bankrupt, and he was called upon to produce a statement of his affairs, but he never did so—on 15th January Mr. Humphreys was appointed trustee, and the public examination was fixed for February 16th, but he never appeared at any of the meetings—the proceedings were advertised in the
<hi rend="italic">London Gazette</hi> and
<hi rend="italic">Standard</hi>—I do not see that he ever filed any statement of his affairs—on</p>
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<p>1st February an order was made by the Bankruptcy Court for the examination of Elizabeth Steele; she was examined at the County Court, Ipswich, on 6th February—her examination forms part of the proceed
<lb/>ings—Mr. King was appointed shorthand writer—an order was made on 16th March for Pettit's examination, and I think he was examined on the 21st—his examination forms part of the proceedings, and I produce it—Mr. King was again appointed shorthand writer—I produce the examina
<lb/>tion of Frederick Steele on 7th, 14th, and 16th March before the Hon. Spring Rice at the London Bankruptcy Court, and on that occasion Mr. Snell was appointed official shorthand writer—I produce all the examinations.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-31" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-31" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-31" type="surname" value="REID"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-31" type="given" value="ARCHIBALD"/>ARCHIBALD REID</persName> </hi>. I am an officer of the London Bankruptcy Court—I arrested Frederick Steele on 1st March, he was living at the Sultan in the name of Smith—I found nothing on him but a little silver, but in his trunk I found this statement of his affairs, and this office copy of his wife's examination at Ipswich, dated 6th February, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-32" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-32" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-32" type="surname" value="DONEGAN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-32" type="given" value="RICHARD WILLIAM"/>RICHARD WILLIAM DONEGAN</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Lewis, Morris, and Longman, solicitors for the prosecution—on 9th November, 1877, I posted to Frederick Steele three registered letters, one addressed to him at 16, Wilton Place, Brompton, one to his place at Gislingham, Suffolk, and another to 45, Lower Brook Street—those addressed to Gislingham and to Wilton Place were returned, that to Brook Street was not—(
<hi rend="italic">A copy of the letters woe here put in, requesting Frederick Steele's attendance at Messrs. Lewis, Morris, and Long man's office, with an account showing how his money had been disposed of</hi>)—he did not call at the office—I have searched the call-book.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-33" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-33" type="surname" value="KING"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-33" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM KING</persName> </hi>. I am a shorthand writer of Ipswich—I was appointed by the Registrar to take the examination of Elizabeth Steele—she was duly sworn—this is a true copy of my notes—I was also appointed to take Pettit's examination on 22nd March—he was duly sworn—this is a copy of my notes—those examinations form part of the proceedings.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LOCKWOOD</hi>. I have know Pettit many years—he was very weak and languid—he is of very great age.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-34" type="surname" value="SNELL"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-34" type="given" value="GEORGE BLAGRAVE"/>GEORGE BLAGRAVE SNELL</persName> </hi>. I am one of the official shorthand writers to the London Bankruptcy Court—I was appointed by the Registrar to take the examination of Frederick Steele on 7th, 14th, and 10th March—he was duly sworn on each occasion—I took his examinations, and my transcript of them is on the file—they are correct—I was also appointed to take the examination of Elizabeth Steele on 14th March, a copy of which is on the file—in the course of her examination he admitted that these letters were in her writing—I also took Pettit's examination on 30th March, a true copy of which is on the file—he was duly sworn.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-35" type="surname" value="KELLY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-35" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM KELLY</persName> </hi>. I am an officer of the Sheriff of Suffolk—on 10th Nov., 1877, I called on Frederick Steele at 45, Lower Brook Street, Ipswich, by direction of Mr. Robert Gardner, who was appointed receiver—I gave him a copy of the notice of Mr. Gardner's appointment, and said "It is my duty to apply to you for all moneys you have in your possession on behalf of the receiver"—he said "I have no money"—I said "Have you any property that you can give up to the receiver on behalf of your creditors at Gisling
<lb/>ham?" that is where his farm is—he said "No"—I said "Have you any
<lb/>thing here?"—he said "Nothing at all."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-36" type="surname" value="PECK"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-36" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL PECK</persName> </hi>. I am a farmer, at Gislingham, Suffolk—last Michael
<lb/>mas I went to Steele's farm with a view of taking it, as he was going to</p>
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<p>leave—Mr. Goodliman, of Ipswich, went with me—Mrs. Steele went round the farm with us—she seemed to know something about it and about her husband's affairs—she pointed out the fields and the stock round the place—Steele was not at home—nothing was said about the money to be paid for me to come in—I went again a day or two after and saw Mrs. Steele again, and Mr. Steele produced an account book of the farm—I bid him 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it, and Mrs. Steele said that the horses cost a a great deal of money—she took part in it and did some writing—I eventually agreed to take the farm for 850
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and paid him the money in notes—this is his receipt. (
<hi rend="italic">This was for</hi> 850
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">dated October</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1877.)
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. Mrs. Steele had to go to London before the interview was over—she came to Mr. Steele in the fields and told him that she had a friend dead—I was not bargaining with her—she was not there when I paid the money, or when the bargain was made.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-37" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-37" type="surname" value="CANNESS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-37" type="given" value="MARTIN"/>MARTIN CANNESS</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer, of Ipswich—about the end of September, 1877, Mrs. Steele called on me, and said "We want to dispose of our farm"—I had only known the Steels three weeks—she said "If you can find a customer I will give you 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the valuation, that will be something like 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which is worth looking after"—I said "I will endeavour to find a customer; but it is rather a
<hi rend="italic">rum</hi> job, as farms are a drug in the market"—I found a customer, Mr. Peck, and referred him to the Steeles—I went to the farm on 22nd October and saw Mr. Steele, but not Mrs.—I made a valuation of the furniture; it amounted to just over 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Mr. Peck afterwards declined to take it—some furniture was removed on the 22nd, not by me; but Steele asked me to help with the piano, and I did so—it was taken to Lower Brook Street with other things, not included in the valuation—I went to the farm again on the 26th, and saw a servant—I met a man with a van—the furniture was loaded and taken to the public saloon in Ipswich, where I was to sell it, except about 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth, which Peck took—after it was taken to the auction room Mrs. Steele called on me and wanted to stop the sale, saying that she would dispose of some furniture in London—I had advertised the sale—I received my instructions first from Mr. Steele and afterwards from Miss Clark—I said that she could not stop the sale—she said that she must have some of the things, and she picked out a chest of drawers, some glass, and two hand trucks full of things, and took them to Lower Brook Street—the other things were sold; they fetched 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd, which I handed over to the trustee—the things taken to Lower Brook Street were worth, with the piano and plate, about 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and those Mrs. Steele took away 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; but the drawers were locked up, and I don't know what was inside—after I was entrusted with the furniture, Steele called and said that Miss Clark had received some money and she could not claim the furniture, and a notice was served on me not to part with the money—I paid it to the trustee when he applied for it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. I thought Mrs. Steele was sent by her husband—I did not think the farm was held in her name—Mr. Steele called and left me an inventory before anything was removed—I treated with him eventually—I saw him when I went to the farm—Mr. Peck wrote to me to go and value the furniture—I did not take my instructions from Mrs. Steele—the piano was taken to Lower Brook Street—I do not know that Mrs. Steele's daughter lived there—when she said that she must have some of the things taken to the public hall, I thought I was</p>
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<p>treating with Mrs. Steele—she took away a chest of drawers very heavy, and a looking-glass.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. Mr. Gudgeon, of Storr Market, acting on behalf of the creditors, told me on the morning of the sale not to part with the money, and I gave it up to Mr. Humphreys.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-38" type="surname" value="BAKER"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-38" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER BAKER</persName> </hi>. I am a machinist—on 31st August I threshed 77 cooms of wheat for Steele—I take the entries from my men—I never got paid—the account is in my writing—I took it from the men who threshed.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-39" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-39" type="surname" value="DURHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-39" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DURHAM</persName> </hi>. I am in Mr. Baker's employ—on 31st August I threshed 77 comes of wheat on Steele's farm, and on 12th October 12 cooms of peas, 18 of beans, and 57 of barley, and on 14th October 77 cooms of barley again.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-40" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-40" type="surname" value="FRY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-40" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD FRY</persName> </hi>. I am a corn and seed merchant at Ipswich—on 4th September I bought 87
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of wheat of Frederick Steele in Ipswich corn market, and on 11th September Mrs. Steele called on me and brought the receiving note, saying that the railway company had received 30 quarters of wheat; it was endorsed "60 cooms of wheat, 87
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Dear Sir, Will you pay Mrs. Steele, my wife, the amount, as I am busy with the harvest and cannot leave home?"—I gave her a cheque for 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I declined to pay the whole, as I had not received the wheat—the cheque is endorsed "Elizabeth Steele," and has been paid by my bankers—6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was still due, which was paid next day to Mrs. Steele, as the wheat had been received—the cheque is endorsed "Elizabeth Steele."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-41" type="surname" value="GARNHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-41" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES GARNHAM</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Paul, corn merchants, of Ipswich—on 9th October I bought 110 cooms of barley of Frederick Steele, at 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a coom, and on 16th October I paid him 112
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by cheque, as 112 cooms were delivered—the cheque has been paid.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-42" type="surname" value="BUCK"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM MOSS"/>WILLIAM MOSS BUCK</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Thomas Mortimer, corn merchant of Ipswich—I remember Frederick Steele selling them on 18th September 140 cooms of wheat, value 147
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—it was delivered as 133 cooms—I gave his firm a cheque for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and subsequently one for 47
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—those cheques have been sent in endorsed "Frederick Steele"—on 9th October I bought some wheat of him for 63
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I paid for by cheque, which is endorsed "Frederick Steele."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-43" type="surname" value="SEMPLE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-43" type="given" value="ARTHUR CHARLES"/>ARTHUR CHARLES SEMPLE</persName> </hi>. I am one of the cashiers of the London and County Bank, Knightsbridge branch—I produce the books—on 24th October, 1877, Frederick Steele paid in 192
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there were eight 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes and 112
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold—on 29th October he paid in 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he opened an account, and on 30th October this cheque out of the book we gave him was presented. (
<hi rend="italic">This was for</hi> 842
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">in favour of Mrs. Steele, dated</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">th October, and signed Frederick Steele</hi>)—that was paid with two 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, 90237 and 92581. both dated 14th February, 1877; a 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, 22735, dated 14th May, 1877; two 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, 60516 and 60517, dated 12th May, 1877, and 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold—on 31st October, Messrs. Harvey and Nichols, customers of ours, cashed a 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Bank of England note, No. 92581, dated 14th February, 1877—we gave them three 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, Nos. 83227, 83228, and 83229, all dated 13th April, 1877.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. I did not pay this cheque—I do not know who it was paid to—this scratch is the cashier's initial—it is payable to bearer, and would be paid to anybody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-44" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-44" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-44" type="surname" value="MILLS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-44" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MILLS</persName> </hi>. I am one of the managers to Harvey and Nichols, silk merchants, of Knightsbridge—about the end of October, Elizabeth</p>
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<p>Steele called there and asked to see Mr. Carruthers, one of the partners—I said "He is not at home"—she said "I want change for a 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, I am a relation or a friend of the late Mrs. Willie, of Wilton Place," who was a very old customer of ours—I inquired of our chief cashier, and found we had not sufficient—we had an order a few days previously from the late Mrs. Willie's solicitor to supply Mrs. Steele and her daughter with necessary mourning—she asked me if I would send over the way to the London and County Bank—I did so, and gave the change to her, but do not remember what it was—this is the only note I ever cashed for her.
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. Mr. Steele was with her.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-45" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-45" type="surname" value="CLARKE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-45" type="given" value="LOUISA ANN"/>LOUISA ANN CLARKE</persName> </hi>. I live at Broom, in Suffolk, and am unmarried I have known the Steeles several years—on 1st November I received a registered letter containing a 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, 83229, April 13, 1877, in an envelope without any letter—I do not know in the least who sent it—I have seen the Steeles since, but they have never referred to it, and I have made no inquiries—I was surety for Steele for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. I have known Mrs. Steele many years—she is highly respected—I had been called on by the bankers on 5th January to pay 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and this 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note repaid me—Mr. and Mrs. Steele have a daughter at boarding-school at Ipswich—I do not know whether the school is in Brook Street, Ipswich, or whether the piano belonged to her—Mrs. Steele was looking out for a situation as housekeeper in the spring, and I think she got one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I was security to the bank for Steele after I received the 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note—Mrs. Steele came to reside at my house—I did not mention it to her—I paid the bank by cheque—I mean to represent that I do not know at this moment where the 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note came from.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-46" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-46" type="surname" value="MCMASTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-46" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER MCMASTER</persName> </hi>. I am cashier at Bacon, Cobham, and Co.'s Bank, Ipswich—Pettitt has banked there some years, and I know him as a customer—on 13th November, 1877, he brought this 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Bank of England note, No. 90237, dated 14th February, 1877, and requested to have it changed—it is endorsed with the name of Petitt—I gave him for it these ten 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, three of which were numbered 62489, 62490, and 62491, dated 10th April, 1877, and 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold—on 26th January the same three 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes were paid in to his account, and a 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, 60517, dated 12th May, 1877—on 29th January he came again and brought a 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Bank of England note, 22735, dated 14th May, 1877, and requested it to be placed on deposit in his name, which was done, and I gave him a receipt bearing interest at 3 per cent.—on 2nd March he came again and withdrew the 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he produced the receipt, and in exchange I handed him 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this is his pass-book; it commences in 1874 with a loan of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the bank to him—the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. also appears to his credit—the loan was wiped off on 2nd March—Glyn, Mills, and Co. are our London agents.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LOCKWOOD</hi>. I wrote the name of Pettit on all the notes—I know him perfectly well—I knew him before he became a customer—he is highly respected in Ipswich—I live there—I did not hear of Steele's bankruptcy till a few weeks before I was examined at Bow Street on 22nd May—it was not the subject of general conversation in Ipswich—Steele was not a customer of our bank.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I was not aware that there was such a person in existence—I had not known him seven or eight years, and he had not visited at my house.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-47" type="surname" value="JENNINGS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-47" type="given" value="FRANCIS BARNARD"/>FRANCIS BARNARD JENNINGS</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor of Ipswich—I acted as local agent for the solicitor for the prosecutors and for the trustee—I know Pettit—on 1st March I went to his house with William Skippen, a bailiff of the County Court, for this purpose—I said to Pettit, "Skippen holds a warrant to search your house; Frederick Steele, the bankrupt, has been arrested, and you are suspected of having some of his property in your possession"—he said "I have nothing belonging to the Steeles; Mrs. Steele left one box here which she took away last Monday morning"(I think this was Friday)—he said "What goods am I suspected of having?"—I showed him a list which he read through and said "I know nothing of any of these"—they were trunks and boxes, and a chest of drawers—I said "The bailiff must execute his warrant and search the house"—he searched and found nothing—I then said "Steele has money as well as goods; the money partly consists of gold and partly of notes; there are two notes of 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each and one of 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. among them, the numbers of which are known; the creditors are determined to find them, and it is very foolish of them being kept back"—he said "I know nothing about the notes or about any of Stele's money, and if I see either Mr. or Mrs. Steele I shall certainly advise them to give up all their property and money to the creditors."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LOCKWOOD</hi>. Skippen was there during the whole conversation, and could hear what was said—I told the Magistrate I did not give Pettit notice of my coming—I did not mention the numbers of any notes to him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-48" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-48" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-48" type="surname" value="SKIPPEN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-48" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SKIPPEN</persName> </hi>. I was employed on this occasion only, by the County Court at Ipswich—I accompanied Mr. Jennings on 1st March to Pettit's house, and heard Mr. Jennings have some conversation with him—I found nothing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LOCKWOOD</hi>. I acted as a bailiff on this occasion, but never before—I do not remember anything said about a 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, but I remember a 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-49" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-49" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-49" type="surname" value="SAWYER"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-49" type="given" value="EDWARD WILLIAM"/>EDWARD WILLIAM SAWYER</persName> </hi>. I am a farmer, of Helmingham, and am Mr. Peck's brother-in-law—on 18th October I went over Steele's farm, and saw him and his wife—Mrs. Steele remained in the house, and when Steele and I came back he, in Mrs. Steele's presence, produced an inventory, and said that that was a memorandum of the things on the farm—she took an interest in the affair, and put down the prices at Steele's dictation—I conversed with them both—I found fault with some of the items—she said that the horses cost more money; she took an active part in the transactions—I saw some books, and they were referred to.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-50" type="surname" value="BARNES"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-50" type="given" value="GEORGE ANTHONY"/>GEORGE ANTHONY BARNES</persName> </hi>. I live at Yaxley, Suffolk, and am a farmer and dealer in artificial manure—I have known Steele some years, and supplied him with manure—I knew that he had left his farm in 1877, and in consequence of a letter from him I went by railway to Ipswich to see him—Mrs. Steele met me at the station, and took me to 45, Lower Brook Street—Steele said, in her presence, "I am preparing my balance sheet, and I want you to give me a receipt for 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for manure; I have got into a muddle"—he only owed me about 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. at that time—I did not do so—Mrs. Steele went upstairs, and fetched down about 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., there was a roll of notes and some gold—they offered me 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. first, and then 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. if I would do it, but I would not—Steele said that his creditors had</p>
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<p>behaved badly to him, and they should not have a penny of the money, he would sooner
<hi rend="italic">chuck</hi> it in the fire, and burn it all—I received another letter from Steele about 8th or 9th December, and went to Ipswich again—Mr. and Mrs. Steele were present—Mr. Steele was packing a drab portmanteau—Mr. Steele was sitting there, he was not very well—I did not see any money put into the portmanteau, but I afterwards saw it opened in London, and saw 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 900
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in it—Steele was then going over to Nice, he had the portmanteau with him—I had taken it to London for him—Mrs. Steele had delivered it to me on the Ipswich platform, and told me to keep my eye on it because the money was in it—I had a sister living at Nice—Steele could not get on there, and returned and lived at the Sultan Inn, Brixton, where he went by the name of Smith—his wife went and met him the very night he came home—I had an interview with her on 29th January at 45, Lower Brook Street, Ipswich—she wrote to me to meet her there, and said "I have just come from London," or "I have just left Mr. Steele in London, and have brought all the money back with me—what would you advise me to do with it, would you put it in the bank?"—I said "I should not advise you to do that"—she said "I should like to put it out on a mortgage"—I said "You had better ask your solicitor about the"—she said "Because my daughter will cost a lot of money this year, and I don't want to waste it: I am going to get Mr. Pettit to cash me a 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note this after
<lb/>noon"—I said "I should be careful about that"—she said "Oh, he is all right, he has cashed me a 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, and he w ill get the other done this afternoon"—I advised her to see Mr. Peacock, a solicitor in Ipswich, and offer composition, as she told me about her husband being bankrupt—I did not know it till then—she said "I think that is the best thing I can do; I will meet you at Mr. Peacock's office," and she met me there, and arranged with Mr. Peacock to offer, I think 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the pound—I left that to be settled between them—she said that Mr. Pettit told her to keep away from his house, because if she came backwards and forwards he should get it searched—he wanted to know the best way of getting a 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note changed, and I said if
<hi rend="italic">I</hi> went to the Repository at Norwich I could buy a horse and get it changed for her; that was before I knew that her husband was bankrupt.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. I would not give a receipt for the 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., because I thought it a dishonest thing to do—I took the 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and gave it back to him so that I should not make any false statement—320
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. passed through my hands—I did not think that dishonest—I only took it in my hand, and gave it back, because I wanted to get away from the place: I would not have anything to do with it, I was afraid I should get into a muddle—I did not advise him to go to Nice, nor did I say so before the Magistrate—I advised him to leave the country for a little time, and to offer a composition—I did not assist him to Nice, but I carried the portmanteau to Colchester, where he joined me, and I took him on to London—he asked me if I had friends in the country—I said "I have a brother-in-law living at Nice"—he asked me to write to him, and I did—I do not call that assisting him—I had known Steele a great many years, and that is the reason I did it—I did not know that he was a bankrup—I told him to offer a composition, but I did not know he had any creditors till he sent for me—I advised him to leave the country because he was in trouble, and I took him to Mr. Peacock—he wanted</p>
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<p>me to give him a receipt for 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. that he might meet his creditors, but I would not do it—I did not have 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. given me for going up to London—I had 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of him for my railway expenses, and 2i. form Mrs. Steele—I took the luggage to London, it was labeled in my name—she met me at the station, and told me to take the three portmanteaus to Mrs. Steele in London, and I did so—I went that night, I think, to the Sultan at Brixton, which is kept by my son—Steele wanted to stop somewhere in London—I said "You cannot do better than go there." and he did so—he was there all the time—Mrs. Steele knew that he was there, but I do not know that any body else did—I did not tell the police that he was at the Sultan—I did not give him up—I do not know how then police found out that the he was there—I assisted him because I had know him a long time—Mrs. Steele kept coming and asking me to do it, and I did it out of good nature at my own expense—(
<hi rend="italic">The examinations of Frederick Steels of</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">nd and</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th March</hi>, 1878,
<hi rend="italic">were put in and read, and the examination of Elizabeth Steele, stating her utter ignorance of her husband's affairs was partly read. Pettit's examination was also read</hi>.)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-51" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-51" type="surname" value="HUMPHREYS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-51" type="given" value="JOSIAH"/>JOSIAH HUMPHREYS</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the this branch of the London and Provincial Bank—I was appointed trustee under Steele's bankruptey on 15th January—He did not deliver up to me any accounts, papers, or documents, or any statement of his affairs, or any money or property belonging to his estate—I am not aware that any of the creditors have received any part of the 1,200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. referred to to-day—I have received 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from Mr. Peacock, and 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mr. Canness, the auctioneer—5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was found on Mrs. Steele when she was searched, which came into my possession—the creditors are tradesmen at Ipswich—none of them have received anything—this cheque for 842
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is in Steele's writing—he was a customer of ours—he kept a banking account; this is his pass-book, by which it appears that on 20th July, 1872, he paid 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to Pettit, and on 14th November, 1873, 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to Pettit.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. Those sums came into my hands as trustee, but I was the principal creditor on the part of the bank, which was partly secured—our dept was 645
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at the time he absconded—we held title deeds for 320
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and Miss Clark has paid us 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., making 420
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of 645
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. That amount was paid to the bank, not to the bankrupt's estate—Miss Clark was surety to the bank.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-52" type="given" value="SIPSEY"/>SIPSEY MANDEVILLE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 121).
<hi rend="italic">Not examined in chief</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KELLY</hi>. I arrested Mrs. Steele at Gislingham, in Norfolk—I read the warrant to her; she said, "What I have done in assisting my husband, I have done not knowing any wrong."</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PETTIT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received a good character</hi>
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<interp inst="t18780624-602-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH STEELE</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment Respited</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. with intent to defraud</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-603-18780624 t18780624-603-punishment-10"/>Twelve Months's Imprisonment</rs>. And</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., the moneys of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780624-604-offence-1 t18780624-name-55"/>Thomas Simmons</persName>.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-604-18780624 t18780624-604-punishment-11"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18780624-604-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-604-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p>
<hi rend="italic">For other cases tried this day and the next, see Kent and Surrey Cases</hi>.)</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, June</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN WATTS</hi> (29)</persName> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH BAZLEY</hi> (24)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780624-605-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18780624-605-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>to stealing a purse, a piece of cardboard, and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., the property of
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-58" type="surname" value="LICENSE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-58" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780624-605-offence-1 t18780624-name-58"/>William License</persName>, from the person of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780624-605-offence-1 t18780624-name-59"/>Harriet License</persName> </rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">BAZLEY</hi>** also
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> to a conviction of felony in July, 1875, at Clerkenwell.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-605-18780624 t18780624-605-punishment-12"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">WATTS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780624-605-punishment-13" type="punishmentDescription">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-605-18780624 t18780624-605-punishment-13"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780624-606-offence-1 t18780624-name-61"/>Thomas Stevens</persName> by false pretences.</rs>
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<interp inst="t18780624-606-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs>. And</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANNIE FENNER</hi> (21)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780624-607-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="concealingABirth"/> to unlawfully endeavouring to conceal the birth of her child.—</rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday and Tuesday, and New Court—Wednesday, June</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 25
<hi rend="italic">th, and</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES PRYOR</hi> (39)</persName> was indicted
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780624-608-offence-1 t18780624-name-64"/>Lombard Deposit Bank Company</persName>, of which he was a director.
<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> varying the form of charge.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. T. COLE</hi>, Q. C.,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POPE</hi>, Q. C.,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HORACE AVORY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">appeared for the Defence during the first day; on the second day the Prisoner elected to conduct his own case</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-65" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL HAYMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the office of the Registrar of Joint Stock Companies, Somerset House—I produce the memorandum and articles of association of the Lombard Deposit Bank Company, Limited; it was registered on 30th December, 1874; there were seven subscribers for five shares of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each—the capital to be 20,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in 20,000 shares
<hi rend="italic">of</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each—I produce the agreement of 21st December, 1874, signed by the defendant; it is an agreement between James Pryor, of 43, Lombard Street, and Richard Sleeman, as a director on behalf of the company then in course of formation, by which Pryor sold his business to the company in considera
<lb/>tion of 2,100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in fully paid-up shares of the company—the first registered return of the list of shareholders was 14th July, 1875; it is signed by
<hi rend="italic">Pryor</hi>;
<hi rend="italic">that purports</hi> to give the shareholders' names up to the 5th of May preceding; the total number of shares then taken up was 35; the next return of the list of registered shareholders was on 27th January, 1876; that is signed by the prisoner, and purports to be made up to the 20th January preceding; the number of shares then registered is 5,477; the calls made are 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a share, but there is a note that 2,200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is considered as received on some of the shares; those are entered as against the prisoner's name, not as fully paid up—on all other shares the balance of 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was paid—the total amount entered is 3,904
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., made up in this way: 1,705
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is taken as having been received in cash, and 2,200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. considered as received—I find in the register 10 shares in the name of H. Clinton Cooper, and 5 in the name of Bastaple—the next return of shareholders registered is on 16th November, 1876; that is signed by the prisoner, and purports to be made up to 31st October, 1876—in that register the prisoner appears for 2,225 shares, Mr. Cooper for 100, and Mr. Bastable for 100; 7,640 shares are entered as taken up, and the</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the total amount of fully paid-up shares is entered as 5, 616
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and the total amount of calls unpaid 2,023
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the number of shares is not put—the next return of the list of shareholders is on 23rd November, 1877—that is filed through a registration agent, and signed, not by the prisoner, but by "R. Tyler, secretary;" that purports to be a list of snares up to 21st November, 1877—the prisoner there appears for 2,225 shares, and Cooper and Bastaple 100 each—on 9th April, 1877, I find a resolution registered with regard to an alteration of title, that the word "deposit" be left out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POPE</hi>. The whole proceedings are regular from beginning to end as far as I know; it is in the new form in which such a company is established and registered—the agreement by which the com
<lb/>pany bought the prisoner's business is there at full length for any share
<lb/>holder to see; by that he was to be paid in fully paid-up shares—the capital of the company on 6th May, 1875, was 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—according to the articles of association the directors are to be not less than four or more than twelve—the duty of the manager was to do the whole business of the bank, reporting to the directors from time to time—by article 32 the directors have power to suspend the manager and appoint a secretary, and by article 75 the secretary is made responsible in the absence of the manager.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. By clause 74 the remuneration of the manager is not to be less than 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per annum, payable monthly, with 5 per cent, upon the shares.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-66" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY JONES</persName> </hi>. I did live at 226, Old Street, City Road—I am now at the Lombard Bank—I was formerly one of the cashiers in the Lombard Deposit Bank, Limited—I was with the bank from 19th January, 1876, to 26th January, 1878—at the time of my leaving I gave notice to the prisoner—I gave as my reason for leaving that the accounts were so com
<lb/>plicated that I could not comprehend them, and I could not go on any longer—I referred to the advances he was having in the name of Roberts, and this affair of Mr. Lee's, and an account he had got open in the name of Nash, and there were so many things—I mentioned this to him—he said there was no occasion to leave; it would be all right; that I had taken him rather by surprise—I said I should like to go in the regular way, and I gave him a week's notice—he asked me as a favour to stop on to the general meeting, which I did; that was on 26th January, 1878—I said "I have never seen Mr. Nash; you draw the cheques in your own name and pay the cheques to your own signature; I don't understand how it can be right any way"—he made no remark about its being right or wrong that I remember—I left on the 26th, the day of the general meet
<lb/>ing—the bankers of the Lombard Deposit Bank were the Hampshire and North Wilts Bank; but for general purposes money was kept in the till—I had the principal control of the till, and was accountable for such money as I paid out of the till—this is the share register which is kept at the office of the company; it is called the register of members—the first return is made up to 5th May, 1875; it shows that 35 shares had been taken up to that date—up to 20th January, 1876, 2, 225 shares are entered in the name of James Pryor as being held by him—in the next return the amount is the same—on the 20th January, 1876, there were 100 shares in the name of H. Clinton Cooper—50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. appears to have been paid upon them, and it stands the same now—100 shares appear to the name of</p>
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<p>Bastaple in 1876, and 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. paid upon them; that entry remains the same—this is the cash-book; I have not gone through it carefully—I produce a cheque marked "A" for 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., dated 11th March, 1876, signed by the prisoner: on the back there are the names of various persons at recipients of petty cash—I paid that cheque to the prisoner—I also pro
<lb/>duce a cheque (B) for 174
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., dated 19th September, 1876, and en
<lb/>dorsed by the prisoner; it is "for sundry dividends, for which see back of counterfoil," where there are about twenty names, amongst them the name of Cooper for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I wrote that by Mr. Pryor's instructions—the money in respect of that cheque was credited to his private account—amongst these names the prisoner appears for 139
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; that would be for dividend on his 2,225 shares—he is credited with 175
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he gave me the difference to make it even—I produce a cheque (C) for 240
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., dated 7th March, 1877, payable to the prisoner and endorsed by him; that was for dividend—on the back of the counterfoil appear, Cooper 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., Bastaple 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., Sleeman 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and other smaller sums—the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to Cooper and Bastaple represents 12 1/2; per cent, on 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the half-year—the whole amount of that cheque is credited to the prisoner in the cash-book—this cheque (E) for 57
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., dated 12th September, 1877, is drawn by the prisoner payable to bearer—on the counterfoil is Cooper and Bastaple for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for dividend, and about thirty names for small amounts; that cheque was also credited to the prisoner's account—if was his duty to pay it out in small sums to the persons named—this cheque (D) for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., dated 26th January, 1878, is payable to H. C. Cooper or order, and endorsed "H. C. Cooper," drawn on the Lombard Deposit Bank; it is in the prisoner's writing—this cheque (F) for 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., dated 28th January, 1878, is payable to William Bastaple or order, endorsed by Bastaple—the last two were after I left—I produce two cheques (G and H) for 139
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., dated 12th Sept., 1877, payable to the prisoner and endorsed by him; they were for dividend on his shares—in June, 1877, he told me that a sum of 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was to be charged to Dixon's account—I handed him cash to that amount, and he gave me his I O Us from time to time to represent it—that amount was paid by me out of the moneys of the bank—he said I was to give him the I O Us and charge the amount of them to Dixon's account—Dixon was a borrower of the bank at that time on a bill of sale—I have his account here—the prisoner told me that Dixon had gone away altogether, that they had tried to find him at Aldershot—the principal reason why these entries were made at that time was because of the half-year's balances coming on, when we should be called upon to show what amount of cash we had in hand, or what there was to represent it—it was prior to that that I had this conversa
<lb/>tion with the prisoner—I handed the I O U's to the prisoner, and charged Dixon with the 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—that was under the prisoner's direction—there are four items in the ledger, three on June 23rd of 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,</p>
<p>and 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on June 25th—at that time Dixon had another account in the ledger—this was his last
<hi rend="italic">bond fide</hi> account—I dare say there were seven or eight accounts in his name; they were renewals—they began in 1875—his indebtedness was something like 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not personally open a fresh ledger account to Dixon—I did not keep this book, it would be all done under the prisoner's instructions—I think it is Mr. Liddington's writing—I made the entries in the cash-book, and they are copied into</p>
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<p>the ledger—on 29th June, 1877, lit. Pryor made an application to me with reference to 179
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., in connection with Barnard—after a series of cross entries there was a balance of 179
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which Mr. Prior told me to credit to his private account—I was told to make an advance of 921
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to Barnard, and balance the account by paying off Dixon's 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., giving the bank a profit of 332
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; that cleared Dixon's account off the ledger—I debited Barnard with two items 121
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I do not know of any loan to Barnard of 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., no such cash passed—on 28th Nov., 1877. I received this note, it is the defendant's writing: "Draw 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of Hampshire, in 100 notes, and take 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of till in small notes, and send Brown on with 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to the Bankruptcy Court with the same." I did so—Brown took it—the defendant ultimately handed me back 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and told me to charge the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the books as an advance to Mr. Lee, the solicitor to the bank—I did so—some time alter Mr. Lee came to the bank and looked through the ledger, and he turned to the account in which I had debited the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to him—I went with him into Mr. Pryor's room—he said "I want to know what is the meaning of this 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. charged to my account"—Pryor said "That will be all right, I will make that all right"—Mr. Lee said "It had no business to be entered there at all, it must be put right"—he said he did not know anything about it, it had nothing to do with him, and he could not understand bow it had got there—Pryor said "It shall be put all right"—I said "But how do I stand about it?"—Mr. Lee looked at me and said "On my part I utterly deny and repudiate ever having had 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the Lombard Bank"—I then went out of the room and spoke to the auditor, seeing that it assumed such a serious aspect, and when I came back Mr. Lee had gone—I did not tell Mr. Pryor that I had seen the auditor—he said "This thing must be put right; the best way to do it is to alter it from Lee to Barnard"—I said "I cannot do it"—he then said he would initial it so as to show that money had been given to him, if I would insert "per Barnard," which I did—the entry reads "Re Barnard, per Mr. P., 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.," the he initials that—Mr. Lee now stands charged with 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 5th Jan., 1878, Mr. Pryor brought me a cheque for 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., drawn by Barnard in favour of himself, on the National Provincial Bank of England, St James's Street branch—that is credited in the cash-book to Mr. Lee's account as per Barnard—I held that as cash in hand—Pryor said "Keep that as cash till I tell you what to do with it," and I held it till 22nd Jan., and then handed it back to him—I received three cheques drawn by Barnard on the same account, payable to himself, one for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and two for 125
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each—the 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was met; the first of the 125
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheques was returned dishonoured, paid in again, and was then taken up; and the last was dishonoured, but Mr. Barnard's clerk came on and took it up—they were all eventually taken up—in Sept, 1877, the prisoner instructed me to open an account in the name of James Nash, his brother-in-law—the first credit was a month's salary of his (Pryor's) of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., on Sept. 29, 1877; it is headed "James Nash, per J. Pryor"—on 24th Jan., 1878, Nash is debited with 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this cheque (I) for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is drawn from the account of Nash—Nash had nothing to draw upon at that time, he had already overdrawn about 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this cheque was drawn by Pryor, to Nash or bearer—I could not understand it, and I said to Mr. Pryor, "Put it that you received it," which he did, and on the back is written Re
<lb/>ceived the same. J. P."—Nash's account is balanced off on let March,</p>
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<p>1878, with 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he paid 218
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 18th Feb., and the remainder on 29th Jan.—on 18th Jan., 1878, I received this cheque, marked K, for 121
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., in Pryor's writing, payable to F. Roberts or order; the word "order" is struck out by the defendant, and the word "bearer" written in with initials—I paid that cheque to Mr. Pryor—it is the invariable rule when an advance is made for the borrower to endorse his name on the cheque, and then I was authorised to pay; as a rule I always pay the borrower myself—I dealt with that cheque in the books as an advance to Roberts of 121
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—in the cash-book it appears that there was an advance to Roberts of 121
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—in the ledger it is opened as an account, and he appears as a debtor—I did that under Mr. Pryor's instructions—there is no address of Roberts in the books—the customers always give their address—I never saw Roberts—this cheque (L) for 32
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., dated 23rd Jan., 1878, is drawn by James Pryor, payable to F. Roberts or bearer—that was brought to me, and I paid it with a 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, and the rest in gold—I gave that to Pryor—I debited it to F. Roberts.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. I left the bank in January—the prisoner was taken into custody in April—I re-entered the service of the Dank the beginning of May—a great portion of the business of the bank was making loans on bills of sale, and transactions of that description—I knew nothing of the West Lodge Estate—I had only been there once—it originally belonged to Dixon—I knew advances had been made in respect of it—I cannot tell you how many directors there were to the bank, more than in the prospectus, about three, Colonel Mahon O'Gorman, Captain Robert Crowe, and Captain Sleeman—that is all I ever saw about that time—I never saw Barnard Allen—I never heard his name as a director, I saw it on the prospectus—Pryor was made a director in September, 1877—the three directors I have mentioned attended the bank week by week—I was not present unless called for—I cannot say what took place—there is a minute-book—this is it—the advances were reported to the directors after they had been done—I made out weekly statements—an auditor was appointed, a Mr. Wyatt—also a secretary, Mr. Tyler—there were four or five meetings at the Mansion House—I attended—one of the directors prosecuted, not Mr. Mahon—the auditor was not a witness, nor Mr. Tyler—I cannot say whether the minute-book was put in—I did not know that Pryor was, with the sanction of the directors, placed in possession of the West Lodge Estate—Mr. Gaskin, Captain Teevan, and Mr. Abrahams were afterwards directors—I was not always present with Pryor—I was clerk and cashier—I was not con
<lb/>sulted about loans—I said I always saw the borrower, because he would have to present a cheque over the counter.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-67" type="surname" value="LEE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-67" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD LEE</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor, of 1, Gresham Buildings, Basinghall Street—I became a shareholder, and have been the solicitor to this company three years—I did not borrow 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the bank on 28th November, 1877—I never gave any one authority to take notes from the bank in my name—I believe my attention was called to the subject of an advance to me, and I referred to the ledger—this is the entry at folio 626, "New Account, 1877, Nov. 28, To Advance 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—there is a subse
<lb/>quent entry, which is
<hi rend="italic">bond fide</hi>, on 17th December, for 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on the credit side an entry has since been made of "Jan. 5, 1878; credit, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—it was before 5th January I saw Pryor with reference to my alleged debt—I asked him to give me an explanation—he did not give one, but</p>
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<p>said something about its being all right—I said it was a frandulent entry—about a week after, I saw the entry "to credit 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—I had not supplied any money for that purpose—in November, 1877, I was acting as solicitor for Mr. Pryor in reference to annulling a previous bankruptcy—I attended the Bankruptcy Court on 28th November—an offer of 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was made to the trustee of the estate for the annulment of the bankruptcy—the offer was accepted on 30th November—I received 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in notes from Pryor on 28th November—I paid them into my bank on 29th November and drew an equivalent amount by my own cheque, which I afterwards gave to the trustee to annul the bankruptcy—Pryor entered my name on the list of subscribers for ten shares—I said I had no objection—he afterwards told me the numbers.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. I acted as solicitor to Pryor at the same time as I acted for the bank—I paid the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. into ownbank till the matter was carried through, when I repaid the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the bank
<lb/>ruptcy was in 1873—I knew of the advance to Dixon, and that the trustee in bankruptcy had a claim against Pryor's estate in regard to the West Lodge property—the trustee had seized the property as being within the order and disposition of the bankrupt—I aid not attend the directors' meetings till January last, not in Pryor's time—I knew Pryor was in possession of West Lodge—I do not know how he got in, but I believe on behalf of the bank—I knew the bank claimed the property under Pryor's bankruptcy—I did not see Barnard Allen—I may have been present at Cannon Street Hotel when he was re-elected a director, but I do not recollect seeing him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The bank claimed in respect of the furniture mortgaged to them by Dixon by a bill of sale—there had been two prior bills of sale, and possession was taken by both holders of them—there was also a lease of the house—the property was sold by Messrs. Furber and Price—some portions were bought by the bank, and Pryor was in possession of those, I think, in June, 1877—the bank took possession of the lease—a large portion of the furniture was paid for by the bank—I think it was bought in by Pryor, then the trustee seized the property, the bank also claimed portions, and affidavits were made on both sides—the bankruptcy has not been annulled, it ought to have been—the bank did not instruct me to pay Pryor's debts for 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid on Pryor's behalf—he never proposed to me that the bank should pay the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for him—I received my instructions to pay it, from Pryor personally—the directors knew nothing of it till the matter was over—I never authorised Pryor to pledge my credit to the bank for 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I do not know Barnard Allen, I never saw him to my knowledge—in the former bankruptcy there was one large creditor and a few small ones.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-68" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-68" type="surname" value="LIDDINGTON"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-68" type="given" value="ALBERT JAMES"/>ALBERT JAMES LIDDINGTON</persName> </hi>. I live in Calthorpe Street, Russell Square—I entered the service of the Lombard Bank in 1877, and succeeded Mr. Jones as cashier—on the 18th February Pryor presented this cheque marked F in favour of F. Roberts for 130
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I believe the word "order" was struck out—I paid 112
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of the money to Pryor in notes, the numbers of which are marked on the back, and 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold—an account was to be opened in the name of F. Roberts, who was to be debited with the cheque and credited with the difference—I do not know that I ever saw F. Roberts—his address is not in the book—there is a credit entry to Roberts in the advance ledger, folio 649; of 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which comes from the cash-book, folio 76—the entry in the cash-book is my writing, therefore I know the</p>
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<p>money was paid me—I do Dot remember how it was paid—the next credit entry is at page 649 in the ledger, on February 28, of 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which balanced off the account of F. Roberts—that is posted by Mr. Pellew, another cashier—I do not know how that was paid or anything about it—I wit
<lb/>nessed signatures to bills of sale given by borrowers to the bank—I do not know that I ever saw F. Roberts sign, or that I ever had a bill of his in ray possession—there is another F. Roberts's account in the ledger, at page 360, a different account altogther—that Mr. Roberts has an address, and the account is still open.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. The business of the bank princi
<lb/>pally loans on bills of sale and other securities—Pryor did not show me the securities given, but simply told me to open an account, stating whether it was by way of loan—he was manager, and I acted according to his instructions without further questions.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BASLEY</hi>. Nash's account is balanced by 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—from 26th January his account was overdrawn 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., including the sums of 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>, 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—103
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid in on January 29 by Pryor, also 21
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on February 2nd, 75
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on February 16th, 218
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on February 18th—I do not see the 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the cash-book.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. I should receive the moneys over the counter
<lb/>post-office orders came by post.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>. The cheques were payable to Nash and drawn by Pryor—it was understood to be Pryor's account.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-69" type="surname" value="COOPER"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-69" type="given" value="HENRY CLINTON"/>HENRY CLINTON COOPER</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer, of St. Martin's Lane—I knew Pryor—I never took shares in the Lombard Deposit Bank—100 shares were nominated to me on January 1st, 1875, by Pryor—I never received them, nor paid any money for them—I handed the dividends over to Pryor—he showed me cheques, which I endorsed—I do not remember the amounts—this one of 26th January, 1878, for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., is endorsed by me—I understood Pryor merely used my name an nominee.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. One of the directors called on me, and I paid 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I lent the 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not buy shares with it—the account of 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. has been settled by my selling goods—I have no interest in any shares, and no claim against the company further than being a nominee.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-70" type="surname" value="PERCIVAL"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-70" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PERCIVAL</persName> </hi>. I had offices at 46, Moorgate Street, but I have removed to 49, Cornhill—I did not take 100 shares in this company in January, 1875—Pryor told me he had taken shares in my name, that he, had paid for them, and that I was his nominee—I never paid any money for them, nor received any dividends upon them—I believe Pryor handed me this cheque to sign—I endorsed and handed it to him Again, but know no more about it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-71" type="surname" value="CAWTHORN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-71" type="given" value="ALFRED BERNARD"/>ALFRED BERNARD CAWTHORN</persName> </hi>. I come from the National Provincial Bank, St. James's—Mr. Barnard had an account there of 167
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from 24th January—he was not entitled to overdraw, and a cheque being presented for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would be referred to the manager—his account was closed on 15th June—he had 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. once to his credit, but not for a whole day—250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was never to his credit.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-72" type="surname" value="TERRY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-72" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN TERRY</persName> </hi>. I was a clerk in the Regent Street branch of the Lombard Deposit Bank—I kept a book of moneys which I received from persons proposing to borrow—I paid out moneys for expenses, and balanced the</p>
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<p>book weekly, paying the balance to Pryor, who initialled the entry each week—I did this for twelve months, including October 19th, 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the book commenced on October 7th, and finished on the following October 7th, and amounts to 47
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. The account varies from 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the payments were for inquiry fees from persons wishing to borrow.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-73" type="surname" value="GASKIN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-73" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR GASKIN</persName> </hi>. I am a veterinary surgeon at Kilburn—I am a director of the Lombard Bank, Limited—I became a director in February last—the defendant was then managing director, everything was left to him—in consequence of certain things which came to my notice an inquiry was directed into the books—there was a resolution of the board that there should be an inquiry, just towards the end of February—this is the minute-book of the Company—by the articles of association the prisoner was to have 2,100 shares—I find that he has entered himself as proprietor of 2,225—there is no minute or anything in the books that I can discover showing that he was rightly possessed of the additional 100 shares—I have investigated the whole of the minute-book, and find that he has received dividends on the 125 ever since the company has been formed—the books were put into the hands of a professional accountant—it is very difficult to detect whether many of the advances are genuine or not; there are many cross entries—the directors used to meet weekly—we received from the prisoner his report of what he had done; whether he had done it or no we did not know, we took his report—at first we had confidence in him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I hold 500 shares in the company, trans
<lb/>ferred from my father—I became a director oh 19th February—the first board meeting I attended was a week after the 27th—I proposed the com
<lb/>mittee of inspection that day—I don't know whether you were a consenting party to that committee—that investigation was carried on day by day—the business did not go on in the usual way; it decreased day by day from the first sitting of the committee—I believe you were the cause of it—the board met every Tuesday—I do not see any report in the minute-book why the business of the bank was on the decrease—I have the index ledger—the number referring to the Lombard Building Society is 1034—the balance there is 925
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. up to August, 1876, it is not balanced up beyond—I have heard that 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was drawn out by the Lombard Build
<lb/>ing Society during the committee of investigation—I don't know by whom it was drawn out—I have never inquired into the books of the Building Society—Mr. Lewis produced the cheques before the Lord Mayor, supplied by Messrs. Waddell, the accountants, who went through the accounts—the majority of the cheques were signed by you—I believe that all you were charged with is in the indictment—I believe the charge of embezzling 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was not gone on with—I heard that the money was subsequently traced from the deposit account into the Hampshire Bank, and placed there by you—I have not heard what the balance is—Messrs. Waddell can furnish the information—the business decreased because you would not make any advances—I think the directors had to call your attention to the decrease of the business, not you to the directors—I did not become a direc
<lb/>tor at your solicitation, it was at Captain Teevan's and my father's; he put me forward, you kept me back—I was at first unsuccessful—I was afterwards elected, and requested by Captain Teevan to take a seat at the board—at that time my father and I had 1,100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of shares—my</p>
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<p>father made a proposition to you to lend 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. upon them—there was certain correspondence with reference to your giving 1,100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for them—it was not in consequence of not being able to get the advance that I proposed the committee of investigation—the amount of interest you were going to charge on the advance was so exorbitant that it was not possible for us to accept your terms—we did not take the loan—the interest charged was something over 20 per cent., independent of the 12 1/2; I was receiving—it is an impossibility to find who were the first directors, and that you well know—there was a person in the name of Allen who has never been seen or heard of by any one at the bank—we have made every inquiry, and no such person has been found—I have heard of the name of General Louis as one of the original directors—I find it on the minute-book—according to the articles of association the original directors should be holders of 300 fully paid-up shares—the only name I have been able to find is that of the Hon. Mr. Turnour; a certain number of shares were allotted to him, for which he never paid a farthing—dividends have been made on those shares, but he has never received any money—he has acted on the board, and received director's fees—I believe he was not an original shareholder—General Louis never had any shares; if he had, his name would be in the general registered list—the company went to allotment on 3rd February, 1875, when it was proposed that 2,100 shares be allotted to Pryor—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the transfer script of General Louis's 100 shares; it is a script that nobody can understand; it is not tilled up—General Louis never had a share; that is your certifi
<lb/>cate in your name, not General Louis—it is signed by Mr. Crowe and Mr. Sleeman; it should be signed by three directors; it is countersigned by R. Tyler, secretary—your salary was 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year, and 5 per cent. on the profits, when they exceeded 10 per cent.—since the application to the Lord Mayor for a warrant I have not acted as the principal director of the bank; I have acted in conjunction with the other directors, Mr. Abrahams and Captain Teevan, who has now resigned—you were charged with stealing 1,400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and in March with stealing a further sum of 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I believe some of the charges fell through—you were charged with stealing shares—I did not charge the other directors with the same crime—there is a suit pending in Chancery—I am acting under the advice of legal gentlemen, and was so then.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. On 16th March, 1875, Pryor is debited with 1,971
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that is a miscast in his favour of 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and that error is carried on; it was discovered and traced back—there is no trace in the books of General Louis ever possessing a single share, or of having paid a sixpence on them—the Hon. Mr. Tumour is put down as an original director; he never had a share, and never paid a farthing—dividends were paid on 100 shares supposed to be his—Mr. Pryor received those dividends from the commencement—I never heard of the name of Mr. Barnard Allen—he appears as a director; as far as I am able to trace there is no such person in existence; he never was seen by anybody at the board, either by the officials or the other directors—he appears as a shareholder; he has not paid a farthing—his dividends have been paid regularly, the prisoner received them—I know nothing about the Lombard Building Society—certain false cheques were found with regard to the Deposit Loan Company—I handed them to Mr. Lewis—the business decreased the very next day alter the committee of investigation entered on their</p>
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<p>labours—the prisoner said it was in consequence of the committee sitting that he would not make any advances—I had ascertained that the former business was real and genuine—some of the loans were fictitious, Roberts's loan was afterwards—while the committee was sitting we proposed that a person should go round and investigate the securities, but a block was put in the way, that the expense would be so enormous, and it fell through—it was carried on for about a day, but at the prisoner's suggestion it fell through.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the Prisoner</hi>. I attended the general meeting on 8th September—I heard it proposed that Mr. Crowe and Mr. Allen be re-elected as directors—there was nobody to fill their places—Allen was named, but he was not there, only Mr. Crowe and Captain Sleeman (
<hi rend="italic">Allen was here called in</hi>)—I have never seen that gentleman till I saw him outside—that is not Mr. Allen—that is a Mr. Barnard, of Bishopsgate Street, a money-lending gentleman—we have just seized the furniture of the bank from his place—it was given to that person by you, and we seized it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-74" type="surname" value="TERRY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-74" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN TERRY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>). In August or September, 1877, I was engaged by you as manager of the bank as a possession man—you subsequently promoted me to the management of the office in Regent Street, about 7th October; I continued there till the office was closed, and then came to the bank, the principal office—in March some of the direc
<lb/>tors called in Regent Street and told me that a new manager was appointed, and I was to retire—I was discharged—I remained where I was—I went and told you that I had instructions from the directors, and you told me to remain—the directors took up a book and they took away the key of a back door—the chairman said he should fetch a policeman and turn me out, but I heard nothing more—during the time I was there I looked to the bank for money, and I received it front the bank—the cashier gave it me every week—this is the inquiry fee book—there is no entry there of my having received cash from the bank to carry on the business at Regent Street—I never had any—I took it out of what I received, and handed over the balance—on the first day of my entrance you gave me 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to pay expenses, and that was the only money I had from you—you gave it me as manager of the bank—I always went to the bank every week and paid the money in—I kept this book all the time I was there—this is the record of all the fees I received—it amounted to 47
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. as near as possible—I am not now acting as manager of the bank—I act as cor
<lb/>responding clerk—I have a room to myself—I don't know whether I am manager or secretary—I have not been promoted in consequence of your arrest—I hold the same position now as I did when you were there—I can't say that the furniture was removed by you when I left the office—it was there for a considerable time after I left Regent Street—it was shut up, and I left on 7th October—nobody else was appointed to my knowledge—the directors discharged me in the spring, but I maintained my position in spite of them—they had no charge to make against me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I remained there for several months afterwards—when the office was closed I went to the chief office and I have remained there ever since—the balance was cast every week, and I handed over the money to the prisoner, and he initialled every sum—all the moneys I received from selling shares and from deposits were paid over to the cashier of the bank, all the large amounts—it was money for the petty cash and fees that I handed over to the prisoner, and he pat it in his pocket—what became of it I don't know.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-75" type="surname" value="PELLEW"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-75" type="given" value="EDWARD TOLLER"/>EDWARD TOLLER PELLEW</persName> </hi>. I was a clerk in the Lombard Bank four days before the entry of 28th Feb.—this is my entry in the cash-book under that date, "Roberts, F., 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>." as a receipt by me; it is entered on the receive side of the cash, and I see another subsidiary book where in I believe I receive 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I got a Bank of England note for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I have not recorded from whom, I presume I had it from the prisoner—I can't say in what shape I got the remainder to make up the 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but I see on the opposite side a contra entry, "Paid the Lombard Building Society 224
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., which appears to me a part of that entry—it appears to be made up by that cross entry; I can't charge my memory, I believe so—the effect of it is this, that by a cross entry of 224
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and a 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note Roberts's account is credited with 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—no receipt was given for the 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and no cheque was drawn for the 224
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I balanced the cash every night—I received the 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in some form—I have entered it on the receive side—it need not have been received by cash, cheque, or note, I may have received it by a contra entry—my memory is that I received 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but how the balance was made there I cannot tell—it may have been by cash or cheque—the whole 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. may have been paid—it is not usual for a contra entry of the Building Society to appear; it does appear frequently.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. There is an alleged payment to the Lombard Building Society of 204
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and an alleged receipt by F. Roberts of 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—to the best of my belief there is no cheque to show the payment; it is simply an entry—I think in some cases of payment to the Building Society it was done by cheque; I am not positive—if I was directed by the manager I should pay a cheque without a voucher.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-76" type="surname" value="GASKIN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-76" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR GASKIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I was present at the police-court—the name of Mr. F. Roberts was mentioned as having no address, and there being no means of finding him—Mr. Lewis said he would use every means in his power to endeavour to find him, if there was such a person—the prisoner said there was no address; there was no such person.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the Prisoner</hi>. I mean to say that you said there was no such person as Roberts—Mr. Lewis said he would make inquiries for him at his own expense—there is no address in the index ledger—it was your duty to see things properly carried out, and not to make advances to persons without an address.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. That is the only instance in which there is no address to a borrower.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-77" type="surname" value="HANCOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-77" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HANCOCK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>). Acting under the instructions of Mr. George Lewis, I endeavoured to discover F. Roberts—I have not been able to do so—I took the prisoner into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I went to Chapel Street, Islington, where a Mr. F. Roberts had lived about twelve months since—when I arrested you you were performing your duties in the ordinary way—you wished to see the books—you said you did not understand it at all, you had been drinking wine with the parties before and the thing came on you like a thunder-clap—you referred to the date of 16th March, 1875, and said "There are only four items here, and they don't enlighten me at all."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-78" type="surname" value="WADDELL"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-78" type="given" value="WILLIAM GEE"/>WILLIAM GEE WADDELL</persName> </hi>. I am employed by the firm of J. Waddell and Co., and have been employed by Mr. Lewis in reference to certain specified matters in the books—this book, called the share register, has been used as a share ledger—at page 20 there is this entry "Cooper, Henry Clinton,</p>
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<p>Auctioneer, 10 Upper St. Martin's Lane, W. C.; number of shares 100, Nos. 1 to 100," and under the column "Paid on Allotment" 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is entered under the dated of January 1,1875—there is no reference folio to the cash
<lb/>book or any other book from which the entry has been made—at folio 83 of the cash-book I find this entry: "Cooper, H. C., debit of cash as money paid in on deposit 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.," and in brackets, as an explanation of the 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,"capital 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., in deposit at folio 1102, 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—that is the only trace of the coming in of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. capital—I have not investigated whether there is any entry of the repayment of Mr. Cooper of the whole of his 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I am not aware of any—there is an entry 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. as dividend on the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from 1st January to 31st December, paid in March, 1876—the counterfoil 2002 shows that the shares 1 to 100 are registered to Cooper—this purports to be a copy of the returns filed to the Joint Stock Company's registry on 20th January, 1876, in which he is registered as shareholder for ten shares only—on 19th September, 1876, and 7th March, 1877, 12th Sep
<lb/>tember, 1877, and 31st January, 1878, there are entries of four half-yearly payments of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for dividend on Cooper's 100 shares—in the next page of the share ledger there is "William Arthur Charles Bastaple, financial agent, 49, Cornhill, 100 shares, paid on allotment 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; date of entry as member January 1,1875; Nos. of shares 101 to 200"—I have not been able to find any reference to the cash-book as to the coming in of that capital—there is no folio—dividends are credited to Bataple by journal entries on 31st December, 1875, 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; on 30th June, 1876, 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and a cash payment on 16th November, 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., a journal entry of the 1st January, 1877, of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and a balance carried down 30th June of 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; then on 1st July, 1877, that balance is brought down and 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is entered as having been paid on 7th March, the dividend for 1875 being still due, and then that is carried on, and further payments are entered down to 29th January, 1878, therefore the whole dividend for the three years has been paid—at page 81 of the share ledger the heading is "Pryor, James, bank manager, 43, Lombard Street, E. C.; number of shares 2,200—in the column for allotment 2200; date of entry as member January 8, 1875; folio in the share ledger 41, Nos. 2025 to 4124, that would be 2100, and 4125 to 4224, 100; also 25 shares, 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. paid on allotment"—I also find in the share ledger that dividends are paid in respect 2,200 shares 137
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. is credited on 31st December—the transfer produced is a printed form of transfer, but it is not stamped, and there is not any consideration money or any exe
<lb/>cution by the transferee—Pryor's name does not appear for any shares in the first list returned to the Joint Stock Registry on 5th May, 1875—in that filed on 20th January, 1876, he appears as a holder of 2,200 shares, and on 31st October, 1876, 2,225 shares—by reference to the share ledger I find the amount of dividend credited to him on 31st December, 1875, is 137
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., that would be on 2,200 shares on 12 1/2; per cent., and there is a further entry 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on the same date as dividend on the 25 shares—in Cooper's account the money entry is in a totally different writing to the rest of the entry; but I am unable to see that there has been any erasure on that spot—Bastaple's is also in a different handwriting to the rest of the entry, and I am also unable to say that that is an erasure.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. This is labeled "share register," but it has been used as a share ledger—I am not acquainted with your hand
<lb/>writing, more than appears in certain of the books—this entry as to</p>
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<p>Cooper's shares is not in the handwriting that has been pointed out as yours—referring to the cash-book of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. st December, 1875, as to Cooper's shares, I find on the debit side as of money received 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. paid in by Cooper on deposit, explained with the subsidiary entry "Capital 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and deposit 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—the 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would represent 50 shares at 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each—this certificate 2002 corresponds with the counterfoil—there is no entry of any withdrawals—this is the share certificate 2003 corresponding to the counterfoil made out to Wm. Bastaple—I have not been able to trace any payment by Bastaple in respect of those shares—this certificate is No. 503 relating to shares 2205 to 2224 issued to you—this transfer deals with those shares—they are now standing in your name—there is no record of a transfer in the books of the company—this transfer is stamped and duly witnessed—the transferor is James Pryor, and the transferee is Robert Crowe—I have not investigated the 25 shares—I have particu
<lb/>larly investigated certain specified accounts, but I have not instituted any general investigation or examination of the books of the company—I have investigated certain charges, but I have no knowledge of the particular charges upon which you were arrested—Messrs. Waddell have not made a report to the directors with reference to the books; they made a report to Messrs. Lewis and Lewis as to certain particular accounts and particular shares, and they have expressed an opinion that the books have been negligently kept—I endorse that.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. This transfer is not executed by the transferee—it ought not to be in possession of the transferor—the figures underwritten in pencil seem to be the same.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The following witnesses were called by the Prisoner</hi>.</p>
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<persName id="t18780624-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-79" type="surname" value="LEE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-79" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD LEE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The body of this letter is in my hand
<lb/>writing—it is a letter from you addressed me, dated 17th December, 1875: "Dear Sir,—It is understood that as against the loan of 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. borrowed by you for yourself and Mr. Crowe, you have deposited 400 shares, and upon your repaying the loan I undertake to hand you script for the 400 shares." I have no doubt that arrangement was carried out—I don't quite recollect what those figures refer to—I don't know whose figures these are in the body of this transfer of General Louis's shares—I have no recollection of putting in those figures in pencil—it is witnessed by a clerk who is still in my employ—the figures are not mine—this other document purports to be a transfer from yourself to Richard Slee
<lb/>man of 100 shares—I don't know what this is for—I see it speaks of a transfer of 400 shares, but I don't recollect what they were, it is two years and a half ago—no doubt I gave 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in consequence of that—I don't recollect whether these shares were assigned to you as security for the 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—as far as I recollect I was about making an advance to some person to get them out of some little difficulty, I had not sufficient money at the time, and some arrangement was entered into with you on behalf of the bank—none of the money went into my pocket—I became respon
<lb/>sible for a person—no doubt the advance was made upon certain trans
<lb/>fers, the scrip not being printed.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>. Whatever the transaction was it was with the company, and not with the prisoner personally.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-80" type="surname" value="CROWE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-80" type="given" value="WILLIAM RUSSELL"/>WILLIAM RUSSELL CROWE</persName> </hi>. General Louis's name appears in this transfer—it says 400 shares altogether—I don't know whether there was 100, but there were shares of General Louis—I lent him 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each on</p>
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<p>them—you subsequently bought them of me for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I don't recollect your paying me money—you took them of me at 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a share—this is a transfer from General Louis, and in the body it is stated that he had 100 shares—I had lent General Louis 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on his shares—I had not the certi
<lb/>ficate, merely the transfer—I should think the money was advanced in December, 1875.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I never saw any scrip for those shares to my know
<lb/>ledge—the money was paid by me for General Louis—I knew him personally—he lodged the transfer of the shares with me, and it was taken out of my hands by Pryor—I was not aware that no shares had been allotted to General Louis—I believe that shares had been allotted—I don't know who General Louis got the transfer from; he merely handed it to me—the shares never stood in my name—I think I know the writing—I will not swear this is the document that was handed to me, I suppose it is—it is a blank transfer; it is signed and witnessed—all I should have had to have done would have been to put in the con
<lb/>sideration and the particulars of the shares, and I could nave lodged it in the office—it is done every day—I could have completed the transfer m the ordinary way—it might have been a fraudulent one—I did not see the scrip—I see it now; it is scrip of Pryor's—the intermediate transfer never came into my possession—if Louis had nothing to transfer it was fraudulent on his part, he had no right to borrow the money—I paid the money for his benefit—he borrowed the money of me on the security of that transfer.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. General Louis is a major-general in the army—I think he was at one time a director of the bank, I am not sure, I will not say.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-81" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-81" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD SLEEMAN</persName> </hi>. I am one of the directors of the bank, and have been so since its formation—General Louis was one of the original directors, and was sometimes chairman in the absence of Colonel Mahon—under the articles of association 100 qualification shares fully paid-up were allotted to General Louis in consideration of his becoming a director—he attended regularly for some months, and performed his duty like any other director—he sent in his resignation in consequence of leaving the country—I believe this is his signature to this transfer, and this is my signature to the certificate—I think it is the custom of the office on buying other persons' shares to have a fresh certificate, and to cancel the old one on payment of a shilling—I believe I was one of the contracting parties to your appointment as manager—the salary was to be 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per annum, payable monthly, and 5 per cent. on the profits after the share
<lb/>holders received 10 per cent.—to my knowledge no moneys were paid to you beyond your salary—it has never appeared in the minute-book as far as I recollect—the signature to this certificate of Bastaple's shares is my writing, and issued by the directors in regular form—it is the practice of the directors to have a regular weekly balance sheet before them—I have one here, showing the different business done for the week, the money advance 1, and the money received—one of the items is for shares alone, and every week the directors compare the amount received on the share capital before issuing their certificates—we see that the money is paid before we sign the certificates—there is a list brought down from the clerk in the office to show that the money is paid, before we sign the certificates—I have no means of fixing the date upon which the first</p>
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<p>certificate was signed—they purport to be dated 1st January, 1875—I cannot recollect when they were printed—I considered that we were doing everything as regularly as we could, and consistently with our duties—I am a member and director of the Lombard Building Society, and have been so from the commencement—in 1868 or 1869 large sums of money would be passing through your hands continually—you were the manager—no complaints were ever made of any irregularities in the way of deficiency of cash.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. General Louis was an original director, he was elected by the board of directors—I was present when he was appointed—he was proposed by Colonel Mahon—the prisoner got up the company—he asked me to become a director—I cannot tell you who valued the business; it was represented to be worth 2,100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., by others besides himself—I cannot recollect at this moment who they were—General Louis had 100 shares—I did not say he had an allotment; they were assigned to him—I have 100 shares, they were paid for for me, I saw the money paid—I did not pay for them; the money was lent to me to pay for them—I believe Mr. Pryor paid for them—at first I refused to become a director on shares being given to me, unless they were paid for, and of course I would not be satisfied to sit on the board till I saw they were paid for—I cannot show you any entry of the payment—I took all the dividends upon them, and I took director's fees for my attendance—I am not a major, I am a captain retired from the Royal Limerick Militia—I became acquainted with the prisoner some years ago, and he asked me to join the Building Society, and I did so—I can't recollect who introduced me to him, it is 10 or 15 years ago—I did not borrow and lend money, never—I joined this money-lending business, as I had nothing else to do—I did my duty, and I defy anybody to say I did not—I have always done my duty in every situation of life—I remember the Short Lengths Timber Company, Limited, I have reason to recollect it—I was summoned before the Lord Mayor, Mr. Alderman Lusk, about it, for fraud—I had not taken money from a number of poor men, never a shilling, nor a sixpence—I was summoned because our manager took the liberty of putting advertisements in the papers that we knew nothing about—I was a director—I forget whether I paid for my shares in that company, I know I paid 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd afterwards, for which I did not receive a single shilling—Mr. Lewis knows all about it—I paid 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the pound before I was let go—I have never been a director of any other company, and never will again—I used to attend the board at the Lom
<lb/>bard Bank—we left a great part to the prisoner, not everything—I did what the other directors did—General Louis remained a director two or three years—the O'Gormon Mahon was a director when I joined—the other directors were Captain Crowe, Mr. Turnour, Captain Teevan, and Mr. Gaskin—we did the usual routine—I did my duty, whatever it was—I signed different things—we inquired as far as we could whether things were right and proper, we could not do more—we inquired of the clerks, not of the prisoner—he was appointed managing director by the general meeting; the directors had nothing to do with his appointment—I inquired from the clerks, Mr. Jones and Mr. Liddington, if the returns were correct according to the books—I inquired about the proposed borrowers as far as I could; I asked the secretary and the manager whether they were good or not, and Mr. Gaskin always made the same inquiry—I have no recollection of the advance to F. Roberts, I never</p>
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<p>heard a word about it till in this Court—I never heard Mr. Lee complain about the false entry of 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. till at the Mansion House; I recollect that there seemed to be some misunderstanding between Mr. Lee and the prisoner with respect to some entries in the books—they had a discussion among them
<lb/>selves in the board room, and the prisoner tried to explain to Mr. Lee that such was not the case—I considered it was all explained away at the time—I sometimes signed the cheques, and so did the manager and the other directors—the drafts on the till were signed by the directors present—I think the manager had authority to do so—the money was lodged in the till—the board only met once a week, and of course people came for their money, and they could not wait for it—I did not examine the till, I did not think that was my duty; the clerks had given security for that—I was not aware that in 1877 the manager had drawn out 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on I O Us of his own, he did not report it to me—I never heard it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. When the weekly balance-sheet was signed it was put in a drawer or box in the board room with the minute
<lb/>book—you had no access to that box to my knowledge, I never knew you to have a key of it—I have not since your arrest seen a bundle of the weekly balance-sheets in the hands of the directors—I saw some in Captain Teevan's hands—each of the balance-sheets was copied into the minute
<lb/>book, and the supplemental balance-sheet would be pinned to the balance
<lb/>sheet and put away by the directors—the secretary was obliged to keep the balance-sheets—each director had a list of the borrower's names—previous to leaving Ireland I was a County Magistrate 35 or 36 years—I have a family of eight children, all brought up respectably, and all doing well.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-82" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-82" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY JONES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined by the Prisoner</hi>). Dixon's address was West Lodge, Clapham—he appears to have had considerable transactions with the bank, extending over a period of eight or nine months—the bills of sale were renewed every 21 days—every advance made to him was a fresh advance, and every one opened in a different folio—Dixon had nothing to do with the 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; he had absconded at that time—the last
<hi rend="italic">bona fide</hi> account of Dixon was on April 9th, and in January you told me to open a fresh account altogether, of which Dixon knew nothing—he had perhaps from twelve to fifteen advances during the eight or nine months, but all relating to the one transaction; they were renewals—on 9th September an advance was made to Dixon of 340
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on 18th October 380
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; that would be additional interest; of course the interest would be increased as it went on—in June he owed 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. as the balance of these accounts—there was no cheque drawn for 921
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have hunted every one, and there is no such counterfoil in Dixon's name; the advance was to Barnard—Dixon had nothing to do with it—on 23rd June there is 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on same date 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. handed to you on your I O U, and 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the 25th—it is the custom when a clerk goes out with money to leave an I O U for the amount, but only for small amounts under 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., except as to yourself; your I O Us occasionally amounted to 1, 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 1,400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I don't know what you did with the money—the 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid by the presumed ad
<lb/>vance to Barnard—I made no advance to Barnard; I never saw any security for it—I received the 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by contra entry, as I explained yester
<lb/>day—the presumed disbursements to Barnard amount to 921
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there is an imaginary profit shown to the bank of 332
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the bank has never had the money or the property.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>. The 332
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. means this, that the bank would receive that on the transaction supposing it was a
<hi rend="italic">bond fide</hi> advance, but there was no
<hi rend="italic">bond fide</hi> advance whatever.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-83" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-83" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FURBER</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer—in June last Dixon, of West Lodge, was indebted to me—I took steps to enforce a bill of sale that I held; I was the first mortgagee; I paid about 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. arrears of rent on the house—the bank gave me notice that they claimed the property—I sold on the 15th and 16th June, 1877, under my mortgage; a large quantity of the property was bought in; we acted in conjunction with the Lombard Bank—I put up the lease for them as well, they being mortgagees of the lease—this is a copy of the account of the goods they bought, amounting to 542
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., with the addition of 116
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. that I received from Dixon—I was paid for the goods bought by the bank with cheques for 179
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and a 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bank note, and there was a cheque for 47
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. of a person who was indebted to the bank, for whom we were instructed to act, and we also received deposits amounting to 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from two of the agents who bought in, making a total of 542
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Dixon absconded some time in the beginning of July; he had made false declarations that there was no previous bill of sale—I have received all these amounts on behalf of the West Lodge estate.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-84" type="surname" value="PUGH"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-84" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES PUGH</persName> </hi>. I acted for and on behalf of Dixon at this sale, and bought in for him to the amount of rather over 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the two days—I have a credit of 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for my services in that matter—I had that 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from you.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-85" type="given" value="WILLIAM BARNARD"/>WILLIAM BARNARD ALLEN</persName> </hi>. I am a director of the Lombard Bank, and also of the Lombard Building Society; since 1874 as to the Building Society, and 1875 the Lombard Bank; I was re-elected at the last general meeting in August or September—I had an interview with one Dixon, from West Lodge, in June last; he saw you first—I received certain instructions, and acted under the bank's instructions—I paid 44
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for what I bought for Dixon, in addition to that which they bought—I saw Dixon afterwards; he came to me and said he was afraid he should be made a bankrupt; I had a transfer of 801
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and a bill of sale for 121
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., making 921
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this is the bill of sale; Dixon executed it to me for 121
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>,; the 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was a hire note—I have since seen that hire note in posses
<lb/>sion of the bank; it was used in conjunction with the bill of sale in certain bankruptcy proceedings—the bank claimed this property; in fact, they claimed all—on 28th November I had 940
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in deposit with the bank—I held no security for that, only a deposit note acknowledging my right to the money I deposited there—I did not withdraw that amount; I deposited it with you for your bankruptcy; they were clearing out my place at West Lodge; I gave the deposit note to you, and you passed it on to the cashier—the conversation about it at the office was, "If Mr. Barnard should require any money, and send for it, send at once to the bank"—the note was left there—I went to the Bankruptcy Court, and in conse
<lb/>quence of certain conversation there 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was sent for, and I saw 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. pass from you to Mr. Lee—we then went on to the bank, and you returned the 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to Mr. Jones—he asked you where was the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and you said, "Mr. Lee has it"—I have never seen the deposit note since I left it there that morning; my account has not been credited with that 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I kept an account at the National Bank of England—at the last day of the year, to the best of my belief, 1,390
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. stood to my deposit account at the Lom
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<p>Bank—I have not made any deposits at the bank since—you in
<lb/>formed me that the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. had not been charged to my account—I gave you a 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque in consequence of that; I asked you to hold it back for a day or two, because I had taken one or two of your securities off your hands, and, being bad securities, I could not get my money in—I wanted to withdraw more money, and I could not—the 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque was given back to me, and I gave you one cheque for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and another for 125
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; they were both paid through my bankers; another cheque for 125
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was dishonoured, but I sent the money in gold, or I brought it and gave it in myself; they were all paid at last; the whole 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid im
<lb/>mediately on my being asked for it—I asked you to send for the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the Bankruptcy Court—I had enough at the bank to meet 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is entered in my pass-book as paid on that day—I carry on a business in Bishopsgate Street as a furniture dealer; I am a money
<lb/>lender as well, or a financial agent—furniture dealing is my business, and my business name is William Barnard—I am in the habit of making advances—I have had money from the Lombard Bank to travel about the country with to make advances—I have acted for the bank in all parts of the country—my last journey was to Newcastle—I believe I brought some money from there for the bank, the amount I could not tell; to the best of my belief it was about 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; it was money I had gone to collect—I have introduced advances to the bank on many occasions, and as a director I have taken money from the bank and carried out those advances—I have had three transactions with one Roberts—he called at my place of business—he had an address and I have been there, but have not been able to find him—he asked me to advance money on wine warrants—I said I did not understand it—he said "I leave them in your hand, do the best you can"—I afterwards saw you—you advised me to advance 113
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—you said they were good security, and you advanced upon them 113
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bonus—I think it was on 18th January—on the 23rd be applied to me for 32
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the same warrants—I got that from you—he then applied to me with some more warrants, and you advanced 112
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on those, and charged him 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., making 130
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I carried out that advance, and I accounted to the bank for all the moneys I received—the interest was 26
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I considered that fair—I know I paid you back the whole amount, 283
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., in less than two months—I attended at the Cannon Street Hotel the last time—I saw Mr. Gaskin there and had conversation with him—if he says he did not see me it is not true—I also saw Mr. Gaskin, senior, there—I believe Mr. Lee proposed that I should be re
<lb/>elected a director—this is the report and balance-sheet issued by the bank for that meeting—all the directors know me, and I am in the office every day—I have been in constant company with them up to the day of your arrest, and with the solicitor of the bank; except I might mention one, Mr. Gaskin. (
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Gaskin</hi>: "I never spoke to you in my life; you were never at the bank; I never saw you at the bank.) I must contradict you—I had a reason for not being at the bank recently; I did not like Mr. Gaskin's manner, and I told you I should not call at the bank—I have been a director of the Building Society since 1874; they had offices in Regent Street; they were closed about three or four months ago; the closing up was 10 months ago I should think—I had furniture, I took it from there—you were manager there—the Building Society received money for shares sold—the furniture at Regent Street was yours—nothing</p>
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<p>else but money taken on behalf of the Building Society was accounted for to the bank or the Building Society, only fines, not the fees—the fees were received on account of the Building Society and the bank, but they were not accounted for to the bank because the furniture in the office belonged to you; you paid the clerks out of the money; the offices were yours and the furniture was yours—it was never the bank's furniture to my knowledge—I have resided at West Lodge since Dixon absconded, and I am in possession there now—the furniture is the same as was bought on behalf of the bank; the bank has taken possession of it and retained it—there is ample security there to repay them for all the money advanced; there is more furniture there, because I took my own there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>. My name is William Barnard Allen—I trade in the name of William Barnard—this bill of sale is to William Barnard; that is part of my name—when I am a director my name is William Allen; it is not an
<hi rend="italic">alias</hi>; it is my name, my godfathers and godmothers gave me that name, they gave me three names—what shares I have had in the company I have paid for; I will swear that; I cannot show it you in the cash-book—I am brother-in-law to Mr. Pryor—Sarah Barnard is my wife—she is Sarah Allen, but I have entered the money in there for my wife's sake in my trading name; it is entered in the Lombard Deposit Bank, at least they have kept possession of it—there is money entered in my own name, I can't say how much; if there is not there ought to be, 152
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; you will see it I think in the share list—Pryor knew who Sarah Barnard was; it was my wish; because I did not wish to see her name there for that amount—I had other moneys entered besides that—her name is not entered as Marian or Mary Allen—I am sure I have got a wife, her name is Elizabeth—it is not Sarah Barnard, but Elizabeth Allen—it was her wish that it should be entered in the name of Sarah Barnard; she likes the trading name better than her own, it is a matter of business—I am socially Allen and commercially Barnard—I will explain; you see I am a director of the bank, and I do a little money-lending business myself, and I did not wish my name to appear as if I was in the bank—I have no other name—I changed my commercial name to Barnard about two years ago; it was not wholly owing to my joining the Lombard Bank, partly—my brother-in-law did not suggest it, I suggested it myself—I have appeared at the bank as a director—I do not think I ever attended a meeting of the directors there; not on the board, I don't think; not to my knowledge—I used to go downstairs; it is a cellar; you may call it what you like; the board-room is under ground—there was always plenty there without me—I took director's fees for my attendance—I had no shares allotted to me, I bought some; I will swear that, and paid for them—I cannot show you the entry in the cash-book although I am a director—they were made out for me and I paid 152
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money—I paid it some time last year, but I could not give you the month—I paid for other shares before that, I bought some earlier you will find—I paid for some last year I think it was—I paid it in money, to the best of my belief it was in notes and gold; I could not tell you the date—I bought 205 shares; I believe they were bought all at one time; no, I don't think they were now I come to think; it was in 1877 I think—I should not like to swear it was in 1877, it might be a month before, I won't say after—I can't tell whether I bought them all at the same time; I know very well the</p>
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<p>quantity of shares I have got, but I can't swear when they were bought—I commenced being a director in 1875—my qualification was five shares—I think that was the first lot I bought—I got them through Mr. Pryor, I believe—I don't think I paid for them—I am Wm. Allen, Merchant, of Powis Gardens, Kensington—that "100 shares on 1st January, 1875," refers to me—now I come to think on it, I shouldn't be surprised to learn that I got five separate shares on 1st January, 1875, and 100 shares in January, 1876—I have paid on the last lot, but I think not on the first—I should not like to swear—I cannot fix my memory—I have had the dividends paid me ever since—if my brother-in-law received it, I suppose he would give it to me—Charles Barnard is not me, I swear that—I know a party of that name—I don't know who he is—I do know, but you wouldn't know if I told you—he is in Court, and you can call him to answer for himself—he is no relation of mine—there is no mystery at ail in it—James Barnard is his brother—I don't know exactly what profession he follows—I suppose they would be between 20 and 30 years of age—I introduced them—they are not nominees of mine—I swear I gave my cheque for 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to my brother-in-law—I could have had the money to meet it within an hour afterwards, if I wished—I went into the country, and I afterwards gave in exchange three cheques—I got the money to meet them through the Barnard business—I swear it was not supplied through my brother-in-law—I am a merchant as Allen—I buy anything—I bought in the furniture for the bank, and paid part of the money to the bank—I bought in the furniture at West Lodge for the bank, not all, the bank bought some—I am not claiming it myself—I have not been disposing of some of it—there is more than there was—I claim to this extent, that there is a good deal more furniture than what was advanced upon it—there was 588
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. advanced upon it, and they want to charge me 921
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I object—I am the mortgagee—I am claiming it through myself—Pryor is living with me, as he always has done—the bank ought to thank me, I think, for saving the furniture as I did, or rather the goods—Elizabeth and Sarah live there—the bank pays the rent—we have been there since June, 1877—I have not been there the last two days—I should not think they were moving the furniture—neither I nor any one on my behalf have been moving the furniture there to-day—I did not talk it all over last night.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I was one of the signatories to the original articles of association in the name of William Allen—I have obtained an injunction from the Court of Chancery to prevent any proceedings being taken by the bank—I do not owe the bank a farthing on West Lodge—I have paid back every item owing by me—they still demand 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd interest—they have taken possession and they are in possession now, and were till I locked the door and locked them out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>. The interest was tendered by my lawyer—it has been offered to them, and they won't take it—they have taken the 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the Prisoner</hi>. The proceedings on the injunction stand adjourned till next Thursday—during the last two months the property has been in the possession of the bank—I have other property besides of the approxi
<lb/>mate value of between 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., independently of the bank's, and it is in reference to that as well that the injunction is obtained—being a di
<lb/>rector of the bank, I have an office in Bishopsgate Street, and people have one or two bad debts which I have taken off their hands, and it wouldn't</p>
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<p>do for me to take it in the name of Allen and trade in Bishopsgate Street in the name of Allen, when they were sending customers to me to take it off their hands—I find I have paid large sums of money to the bank in reference to these securities, and most of those have been money that I cannot get in, therefore I have lost it—if the bank had a rotten security, they used to put it on me—Mr. Hiscock is the landlord of West Lodge—I have paid him 45
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the rent is 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per annum—I paid two quarters' rent—I have only been there three quarters—it was a misunderstanding if I said I did not pay any rent—when the property was removed by the trustee in bankruptcy, you took your property away, and some of the other property as well—the amount of the furniture was estimated at about 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I paid 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for a release of that and the bank property—it is there now to the best of my knowledge.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-86" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD PLAYER</persName> </hi>. I am managing clerk to Messrs. Fry and Hudson, solicitors, Mark Lane; they are solicitors to Mr. Barnard—we acted for him in November last, and obtained an injunction against the trustee in Pryor's bankruptcy—I was at the Bankruptcy Court on 28th November; I saw Barnard there—I did not see any money handed over—by the terms of the settlement of the bankruptcy 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. had to be paid—the injunction is in reference to the property at West Lodge.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-87" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD WYATT</persName> </hi>. I am an accountant—I have audited the books of the Lombard Bank from the beginning of 1876 to the end of 1877—I have been auditor almost since the bank commenced—there were no books at all when I first commenced auditing the accounts—the books were always in a disgraceful state, something shocking—I complained repeatedly and asked the shareholders to remedy it, to appoint a proper book-keeper and cashier, of neither of which complaints did they take the slightest notice till the beginning of this year, when two respectable gentlemen for the first time were called in to do the books—this is one of the complaints: "Among the most prominent instances of bad booking and inaccu
<lb/>rate statements, I refer to the accounts of Bastaple, Cooper, Lee, and others, &c."—that is a letter addressed to the chairman by a gentleman in my employment, signed by me—in auditing the books in January I think Mr. Lee appeared as a debtor for 1,700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I think there was a separate entry for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and another entry for 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 1,200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in one account—Mr. Lee had been in the habit of going through the accounts with me, because he was solicitor to the bank and had the conduct of many of these accounts; and it appearing to me rather peculiar that he should have 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to his debit, I called his attention to it, and he stated that he did not owe it—I asked Jones, the cashier, about it, and be said it was all in order, that he had had the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I then went to Mr. Lee's office; he at first repudiated the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he then stated that the money had gone through his hands, that he had paid it into his bankers, and to the best of my belief he said it was in reference to Barnard's matter—I said that was sufficient for me as auditor, and I passed it—I have subse
<lb/>quently seen the account; but I do not vouch for it officially, because it is since 31st December, 1877, and I have not examined the books for the current half-year: it shows that the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. has been paid back—the book
<lb/>keeping had been simply disgraceful; you could not trace where a cheque or note came from, or whether a payment was by cheque, post-office order, or otherwise; there never was an account or voucher taken—at the beginning of this year I instituted a system which now works well—it</p>
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<p>was my habit when casting the money in the till the first day of the year to sign for it—I counted the money the first day of 1876—there is an entry here of 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to the credit of Cooper—on 27th August there is an entry of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. paid by Mr. Ellis that still stands to his credit; it has never been withdrawn—this paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is my writing; it refers to certain bonuses or amounts paid by Dixon and Barnard; but that I do not vouch for, only the amount of cash: this is an extract from the general ledger of the bank—Barnard and Dixon jointly owed 1,200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; it is only a rough list taken out without any specific purpose: it shows the amounts that have been advanced to Dixon and the amount of bonuses—by this cash
<lb/>book of June 23rd two sums appear to be paid off Dixon's account, 454
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. by Furber and Price, and 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. by Barnard, to make up 863
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; that pays off the previous advances to Dixon—there is 921
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. advanced to Barnard; that appears in the books—I can vouch for it as a cross entry—the payments and receipts balance, 864
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is received on account of Dixon, part through Furber and Price and part through Barnard—179
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. is debited to you on 22nd June, and on 29th, the 179
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. not having been paid back, is added to the 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 333
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is the bonus—I know nothing about it except what the books record—I have audited the accounts; but I don't know what the money was advanced for or received for—I have come across items for payment of rent for Regent Street and for salaries of the
<hi rend="italic">employes</hi>, but none for fees—in the first instance I charged a certain portion of the working expenses to the Lombard Building Society, and then, I think, as far as my recollection goes, the idea was abandoned—I have no receipts or vouchers for furni
<lb/>ture bought by the bank for the Regent Street office.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>. The bank paid the rent and Mr. Terry's salary—I find no credit for payments received by Terry—I complained of the bad book-keeping—the books were to a great extent under the prisoner's control—I suppose everything was under his control, clerks, books, and everything—I believe he had the absolute power of dis
<lb/>charging the clerks and appointing others—he was the person primarily responsible for the whole—I complained as early as September, 1876—entries were made derived from no source whatever, not fictitious, un
<lb/>authenticated entries—I found 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. debited to Mr. Lee—I don't know that that was done by the prisoner's express directions—I saw it entered in the cash-book as a payment to Mr. Lee—I asked Jones if it was in order, and he said yes—he led me to infer that Mr. Lee had the money—to the best of my knowledge and belief he did not tell me that it was entered there by the prisoner's direction—I asked Mr. Lee if he could explain it, and he repudiated it—I asked the prisoner about it subsequently—he did not tell me that it was advanced to pay off his trustee in bankruptcy, if he had I should not have passed the item—Mr. Lee told me he was the mere conduit-pipe to pass the money to the prisoner's trustee—he was charged with it because the account was in abeyance, not settled—Mr. Lee retained the money in his hand as trustee—it had not been paid off on the day that I called his attention to it, he had still got it—I called his attention to it a week or 10 days after the entry was made—I am only speaking from memory—he did not tell me that the money had been paid long before; it must have been within a day or two of the money being paid—Pryor had no bill of sale on my property—I swear that—my daughter gave one to the bank last Nov.—I have not borrowed</p>
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<p>money of him—I gave a promissory note—I did not pay it, because I have a set-off against it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. Jones's cash balanced with his cash-book—I took account of the cash when he left, I don't think there was any surplus—there was a suspense account, but that was accounted for in the cash—the suspense account means moneys he had received that he could not account for—it was over 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I think, which he could not trace where it came from—it stands to the credit of somebody who has not claimed it up to the present time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Fitzpatrick, clerk to Messrs. Wontner, the solicitors for the defence, proved the issue of certain subpœnas to Colonel O'Gorman Mahon, Captain Robert Crowe, Richard Tyler, and others, who were called on their subpœna and did not answer</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). When people borrowed money Mr. Pryor would insist upon leaving the next quarter's rent in hand, and that was carried to the next account; and as it was paid out to these people it was never charged to the account; that appears in the books—on 9th April, the day of the prisoners's arrest, the balance was about 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., it is now reduced below 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-89" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD TYLER</persName> </hi>. I am officiating manager of the Lombard Bank—I have been about four years in the employ of the bank, from its com
<lb/>mencement—previous to that I was in Gracechurch Street—I was managing the Regent Street branch, I was there in your employ—you were carrying on the business, and I was managing it—in 1874 I was removed to Lombard Street—I was one of the signatories to the articles of association—I have attended the weekly board meetings for the last six months, and wrote up the agenda—I had nothing to do with the books, I used to obey your instructions implicitly—I was only nominally secretary—if I was going out to pay an unknown sum I should take money from the till and put in an I O U—that was the custom up to 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have an I O U in the till now for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there was not one for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. last week, or the week before, to my knowledge—I have not given one for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to the Building Society since your arrest, nor has there been one to my knowledge—I never had an I O U in the office without your sanction, and that was under 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I do not know that Mr. Gaskin wanted to borrow on his shares, I believe he wanted to borrow some money—there have been one or two special meetings since your arrest with a view of dismissing you; resolutions were proposed that the articles of association should be
<lb/>amended, so that the shareholders could vote by proxy—I do not know what has become of the weekly balance-sheets, I have searched for them and cannot find them—all the documents were in your possession up to the time of your arrest—I was never secretary to the Lombard Building Society—my name appears as secretary—you withdrew about 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the bank to pay to the credit of the Building Society—Mr. Lee has been in the habit of receiving moneys on account of the company, sometimes he paid them away and sometimes kept them on account of costs—about 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid for directors' fees during the last half year, including the investigation of the books.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>. I was absent yesterday when called—Mr. Lewis and Mr. Lee sent me to see about some property of the bank's at West Lodge—I did not find it; it had nearly all gone—five or six</p>
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<p>vanloads were removed—I am put down for five shares in the bank—Mr. Pryor made me a present of them—the value of the furniture at Regent Street is about 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it may have cost that—during my time the office was used as a branch for the Lombard Bank—Mr. Terry was the manager—the bank paid all of us and paid the rent—I do not remember an advance being made at Regent Street to Mr. Pace on some silver—I have heard about it since, but I don't remember the advance being made—I know by the books that Mr. Pace got an advance, and that silver was deposited—Mr. Pace afterwards paid off the advance—he paid a balance of 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I believe, after Mr. Pryor's arrest—that was the first I knew about it—he then applied for the silver which he had deposited, and we had not got it—I think Mr. Jones afterwards found it at West Lodge, where Mr. Pryor and his brother-in-law Mr. Barnard lived—I was not present—I know Mr. Barnard—he passed by that name—I did not know him as Allen—I do not know Sarah Barnard—I never saw Barnard attend as a director—the weekly balance sheets were made up from the books—the books were kept under Mr. Pryor's direction—nobody had anything to do with keeping them except Mr. Pryor and those under him—the balance sheets were simply transcripts of the books, which the directors would receive from him as being a correct account of everything—if a cheque for 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was held over for three or four months that would appear weekly in the balance-sheet as cash, and I O Us the same—if Mr. Barnard's cheque for 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., was held over from June to January, it would appear as cash in the balance-sheet—if he got 409
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on I O U's deposited in the till that would appear in the balance-sheet as cash, the directors would know nothing about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I know that the West Lodge affair has been several times brought before the directors on the minutes, and it stood adjourned week after week; the return of Mr. Barnard's hire note was asked for—it was written for—I have never seen it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BROWN</hi>. I am messenger of the bank—previous to that I was twenty-three years in the police—I was at me Mansion House on your arrest—I was requested to bring the journal to you there—I produced one and handed it to you, and it was not the one—I produced another, and I was sent back with it and was told not to produce any more books without the consent of the Court.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner, in a very long address, entered into an explanation of the various transactions alleged against him, which at the outset amounted to a charge of misappropriating some thousands, but which had dwindled down to the amount of</hi> 47
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">received as fees at Regent Street, and which he alleged was received by him rightfully, he having continued to carry on that business after it had been given up by the bank, who had not sustained any loss whatever upon any of the transactions in question</hi>.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday, June</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Manisty</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MEAD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Thursday and Friday</hi>, 21
<hi rend="italic">th and</hi> 28
<hi rend="italic">th June</hi>;
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Saturday, June</hi> 29
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM HENRY HARTLAND</hi> (54)</persName>,
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM MILTON</hi> (25)</persName>, and
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<interp inst="def3-613-18780624" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM FIELD</hi> (26)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780624-613-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>, Unlawfully conspiring together, and with other persons unknown, to steal the moneys of
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-101" type="surname" value="LEWIS"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780624-613-offence-1 t18780624-name-101"/>Thomas George Lewis</persName> and others; also conspiring to deceive divers licensed victuallers who should be induced to employ as barmen parties to the said conspiracy.
<hi rend="italic">Other Counts</hi> varying the form of charge.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">J. P. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Milton</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. W. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DOUGLAS METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Field</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-102" type="surname" value="CROSSLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-102" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CROSSLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler, and keep the George, Balham Hill—in 1874 I was the proprietor of the White Hart, in Leather Lane, Holborn—in June, 1874, I answered an advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Morning Advertiser</hi> for a barman's place—I received a reply from a man calling himself George Digby Lewis, who afterwards came to me and said he had been with Mr. Hartland, of the Duke of York, Adam Street, Rother
<lb/>hithe, a little over twelve months, but whose business was not enough to fully occupy him—he authorised me to go to Hartland—I went to Hart
<lb/>land at the Duke of York the same evening—I asked him if he had had George Digby Lewis in his employ—he said he had—I asked him how long he had been with him—he said within a few days of twelve months—I asked what he could say in his favour—he said he was honest, sober, industrious, and everything that a man could desire in a barman; that Lewis left him because business was very bad down that way—upon that I engaged him, and he entered my service, I think, the second day after
<lb/>wards—he stayed with me four months—at the end of four months I found my takings had very much diminished—I communicated with the police—Lewis pleaded guilty at the Middlesex Sessions, and was sentenced to six months' imprisonment in November, 1874—I was present—he afterwards died in prison—I went back to the Duke of York and asked for Hartland, but could not find him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I have been a publican fourteen years—a charge was preferred against me at Stone's End (
<hi rend="italic">Southwark Police Court</hi>)ten years ago for cheating at cards at the Rose Dale Arms—the case was dismissed, as no prosecutor appeared—I do not know a Mr. Knight—that is tho only charge brought against me—you said Lewis was a good bar
<lb/>man—I do not remember your saying, "They all want looking after"—I</p>
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<p>am not positive whether you said he left you through ill-health—I believe you mentioned he had been in the hospital four years ago—I have no recollection of your calling upon me in September—I was away sixteen or eighteen days in September—I did not pay 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the card case.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. The Duke of York is opposite another public-house in Neptune Street, Deptford.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-103" type="surname" value="BISCOE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-103" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BISCOE</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler, keeping the Horse Shoe, in the Goswell Road—in May, 1876, Field offered himself as barman in my service—I asked him who was his last employer—he said Mr. Hart
<lb/>land, of 182, St. George's Road, Peckham—I told him to make an appointment for me to meet Hartland the next day at 11 o'clock—I went the next day to 182, St. George's Road—I was shown into a front room in a house on the ground floor—Hartland was there—I said I had come respect
<lb/>ing Field's character, and asked, "Is Field honest, sober, and industrious, and a good barman?"—he said "Yes"—I said I wanted such a person, because I was very much out of the business driving, and I wanted some one I could depend upon—Hartland said Field was a very good young man, and well up to his business, that he (Hartland) had been in busi
<lb/>ness in Rotherhithe, I think, and if he went into business again, he should be pleased to take Field back—Field afterwards came to me, and asked if his reference was satisfactory—I said "Yes," and engaged him—he remained four or five mouths—I noticed some one frequently coming to the bar—Field said he was a detective—I never noticed him before Field came nor after—Field was discharged for bad language and assault—some one came for his character—I declined to give one—Hartland came twice—the first time he asked me why Field had left—I told him—he said, "You must look over these things in young men; you ought to give him a character"—I said I would not—he said, "It is very hard for a young man, you know; perhaps you have got sons of your own"—I said I should not think of giving Field a character—Hartland then went away—he came a second time about the character within a month or six weeks—I said "No," and he left—a Mr. Hornby had applied for Field's character.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. Field told me 182, not 162, St. George's Road—I do not remember if you said Field lived with you twice, nor the house you named that Field lived at—you did not say he had been with you eight months—Field told me he lived in Cambridgeshire, and I found he knew the names of horse-dealers there—I told you Field quarrelled with some stablemen.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>. I said at the Guildhall Field quarrelled with the stablemen because they wanted him to give them beer for nothing, and with the hatters—I did not find I had been robbed of a penny piece while he was with me—he was summoned about a month before I discharged him and fined 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for striking a man—he told me the man teased and bullied him because he would not give away my beer—I paid the fine for him—he had repaid me three instalments at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week when he left—my customers are not a noisy lot—refreshing my memory by the depositions, I did say "The people at my house are rather noisy sometimes"—a lady called for Field's character from the New Cut—I do not know much about the New Cut—I thought it was a rough neighbourhood from what she said, and told the lady I did not think Field would suit her on that account.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. Mr. Maitland asked me to go through my books after this case came on—the hatters never asked me for beer without payment—I told Field not to trust—the lady came before Mr. Hornby.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>. I attended the police-court on behalf of Field.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-104" type="surname" value="HORNBY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-104" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN HORNBY</persName> </hi>. I keep the Equitable Tavern, Dorset Street, Vauxhall Bridge Road—I went to Mr. Biscoe about Field's character in November, 1876—Field had been the same morning and referred me to Mr. Biscoe—I did not get a character—I took him into my service—he was sent away from the bar while Biscoe told me why he would not give him a character, but to give him a chance I engaged him—he remained with me about eight weeks—I then discharged him—I told him he was giving spirits away and not taking proper money for them, and I called in two inspectors to see him out of my house, as he was using very obscene language to me and my wife.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I asked Mr. Biscoe about Field's honesty and he objected to reply to it—Field did not give me notice—I never said "You must stop a month, if you don't I will keep your boxes"—I kept his boxes—he went before the Magistrate and I had to give them up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. He left in January—I saw Hartland once while Field was there—I served him with gin.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-105" type="surname" value="SQUIRES"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-105" type="given" value="JAMES HENRY"/>JAMES HENRY SQUIRES</persName> </hi>. I keep the George, 238, Waterloo Road—on 17th August, 1876, after seeing an advertisement, Milton came to me in the name of William Matthews, and offered himself as barman—I asked him where he had been living—he said "With Mr. Hartland, at the Duke of York, Adam Street, Rotherhithe"—I asked him how long he had lived with Mr. Hartland—he said "Two years"—I asked why he left—be said because Mr. Hartland had disposed of his house through ill health, and the new people did not require him—I asked him where I might see his late employer—he said at 47, Lorrimore Road, Walworth, and I went there and saw Hartland—it is a private house—Hartland was in the ground-floor front room—I said I had come about the character of William Matthews—he said "Quite right"—I said "How long has he been in your employ?"—he said "Two years"—I said "Where?"—he said "At my late house, the Duke of York, Adam Street, Rotherhithe"—I asked him if he was honest, sober, and understood his business—he said "Yes, like all barmen, they want looking after," that he had left him because he had disposed of his house through ill health, and that as soon as he got into business again he would take him into his employ—he said he had just disposed of his house—I next saw Matthews on 18th August, and told him that from the character I had received from Hartland I should take him into my employ—he entered my service on the 19th as barman—the same day, my manager having spoken to me, I called him into the bar parlour on the 21st, and in the presence of Inspector Witney said, "From information I received since you have been in my employ your conduct is very suspicious; I find a deficiency in my takings, and I find that you have obtained this situation by a false character"—he said "I have not robbed you"—I said "If you have not robbed me you have obtained this situation by a false character; you said you were single"—he said "I am very sorry; I am a married man; all Mr. Hartland said was wrong, I never was in his service"—he cried and asked me to let him go for the sake of his wife and children—I did so—I</p>
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<p>paid him no wages then, he was in too great a hurry to get away—I then went with Inspector Witney to 47, Lorrimore Road and found Hartland had gone and everything had been removed—Witney taxed Milton in the bar parlour with obtaining a false character from Hartland in a public-house in Long Acre, and Milton admitted it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. Matthews did not tell me he bad been in your employ in Carlisle Street since he left the Duke of York—I did not tell you my brother, who was a great drunkard, managed the Duke of York—I did not know that you were at the Anglers in Carlisle Street—I knew Mr. Peckham called on you there—I do not know him—I do not know that Mr. Peckham made inquiries—I did not hear him say so at Doctors' Commons—I did not tell a Mr. James Ross that I would give 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. if I could get a conviction against you—I did not know you went to Bow Street at the request of Mr. Peckham to answer inquiries respecting my case.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I do not recollect saying at the police-court anything about obtaining a false character in respect of a Mr. Simpkins—my brother has been away from me 12 months—he has been queer in his head—he was not manager when Milton was there—James Dowe was—I do not remember Inspector Witney saying "Mr. Squire does not say you robbed him; he says you got a situation by a false character"—Milton did not ask me to search him—Witney did not search him—he was in uniform.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. When Simpkins's case was mentioned I think the name of the public-house in Long Acre was the White Hart.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-106" type="surname" value="GRAY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-106" type="given" value="PETER HOLDING"/>PETER HOLDING GRAY</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk, and live at 47, Lorrimore Road, Walworth—I occupied No. 76 in August, 1876—I found Milton occupy
<lb/>ing two parlours—I considered he was my tenant, but I got no rent—I did not know Hartland till I saw him at the police-court—Milton told me Hartland was a licensed victualler, but had no house—I think he said he had been landlord of the Three Swedish Crowns—letters came for Milton addressed to Mr. Matthews—inquiries were also made about him—he left on the 19th August.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I knew Milton as Milton, not as Matthews—there was no concealment about the letters coming in the name of Matthews—I did not take them in.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-107" type="surname" value="WITNEY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-107" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WITNEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Inspector L</hi>). I was present at the interview with Mr. Squires and Milton—in consequence of a communication from Mr. Simpkins, who is now dead, I had previously spoken to Mr. Squires—Mr. Simpkins kept a public-house in the York Road—I said to Matthews "How is it you gave Mr. Simpkins a reference to a public-house in Long Acre, and you gave Mr. Squires and Mr. Simpkins, 47, Lorrimore Road as your residence"—Milton said "He is an uncle of mine, and he sits at the public-house to give characters"—I said "You are a married man, and have children"—he said "Yes"—I did not search him, he was not in custody—I did not ask to search him—I went to Mr. Squires to Lorrimore Road at once.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I said at the police-court I went to the White Horse to look after you—I did not find you there—I did not address a man like you behind the bar as Mr. Hartland—I did not say before the Magistrate the house in Lorrimore Road was empty, because the landlady was there.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. Mr. Squires spoke to Milton first about being married—I did not say "Mr. Squires does not charge you with robbing him, but he charges you with getting into his service with a false character"—Mr. Squires did not say so.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-108" type="surname" value="MAITLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-108" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD MAITLAND</persName> </hi>. I am partner with Mr. Peckham's son, who is now solicitor to the Licensed Victuallers' Protection Society—Mr. Peck
<lb/>ham, sen., was my partner—he died early this month—in December, 1876, a Mr. Wood, who kept the White Hart, Long Acre. and a barman were under remand at Bow Street for conspiracy—on 18th December, 1876, I was with Mr. Whitnall at my offices in Doctors' Commons—I saw Mr. Peckham write this memorandum of an interview with Hartland—there was then no charge against Hartland—Witney was present to get in
<lb/>formation—Matthews's name was mentioned—I have frequently looked at this paper—Hartland was told by Mr. Peckham that Matthews had obtained a situation with Mr. Simpkins by a character given from the White Horse, Long Acre, and he was asked whether he knew Matthews—he said he did not—he was asked to give a personal description of him—I only recollect two points in the description, that he was a tall man, and dark, or that he had dark hair—Hartland was then asked where he himself was residing, and he said at 64, Carlisle Street, Lambeth—Mr. Peckham then asked him as to his connection with William Wood, of the White Horse, Long Acre, who was then under remand from Bow Street—he said Wood had been in his employment at the Duke of York as barman for a short time—he was asked what Wood did after he left the Duke of York, and he gave some particulars which I do not recollect—all the questions were put by Mr. Peckham—nothing further passed with regard to Matthews—I have my call-book—there is a pencil tick made by me which enables me to say positively—the interview took place on Monday, 18th December, 1876—Mr. Peckham had nothing to do with this prosecution—he was ill—he may have called on Hartland in January, 1877, but not since.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I was present at the interview between you and Mr. Peckham in Mr. Peckham's room—I think you were asked to be there in the evening; but whether you attended or not I do not remember.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>. I know from Mr. Nevett that Hartland kept the Queen Katherine at Brook Street, Ratcliflf—I do not remember the year—I do not know that Field was his barman there—I know from the same source that Hartland kept the Duke of York in Adam Street, Rotherhithe, in 1873—I have not heard that Field was again in his employment there—I have not made inquiries about that, nor as to what situations Field has been in within the last seven years—I do not know that Field had a situation at Stockton-on-Tees—the result of inquiries was that Field was not in Hartland's service at the Duke of York—Hartland was there from December, 1873, to August, 1874, not on his own behalf, but merely as manager—as a result of my inquiries no barman was employed at the Duke of York, and Field was not under Hartland—no one has told me that he was—I had a conversation with Mr. Biscoe as to his evidence—I never heard that Field left his situation to go into the country because he was ill with smallpox.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-109" type="surname" value="LEWIS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-109" type="given" value="THOMAS GEORGE"/>THOMAS GEORGE LEWIS</persName> </hi>. I am the proprietor of the Lord Nelson, in Nelson Street, City Road—on 25th August I advertised in the
<hi rend="italic">Morning</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Advertiser</hi> for a barman—in the evening Milton called in the name of Matthews, and asked for the situation, giving as reference Mr. Hartland, 59, Boyson Road, Camberwell—he said he had lived with him fifteen months—the next day I went to 59, Boyson Road—I saw Hartland in a ground floor parlour—I told him I had come about Matthews, who said he had lived with him, and asked him if he was sober, honest, and indus
<lb/>trious, and he said "Yes"—I asked him how long Matthews had been in his service—he said fifteen months, that Hartland had put Matthews into another situation at Westminster, which Matthews left because it was not good enough for him—Hartland gave the sign of the house—I think it was the George, near Rotherhithe, where he served Hartland—in consequence of the character Hartland gave Matthews I engaged him on 28th August, 1876—he remained till 28th December, 1876—on 28th December I saw him pass coins into his right-hand waistcoat pocket on three separate occasions between 6 and 8 p.m.—I discharged him—I said "Pack up your box and get out of the house as soon as you can"—he went upstairs, packed up his things, and came down—I paid him what was due and a week in advance—he said "Tell me what you are dis
<lb/>charging me for"—I said "You know what you are going for, for having confederates on the other side of the bar and placing too much money of mine in your pockets"—he took up his money, signed the book which I have in my pocket, took his portmanteau, and walked out—while he was there the takings were not in proportion to the payments.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I do not know whether Matthews said you were at the Anglers, Carlisle Street, Lambeth—you did not tell me Matthews had been three days at the George, Waterloo Road, with Mr. Squires.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I received information from customers—I had an interview with a detective prior to that—I afterwards found Milton employed by Mr. Graven at the Middlesex Music Hall, but not in Matthews's name—I am a member of the Licensed Victuallers' Associa
<lb/>tion—I went to Mr. Graven twice—I found Milton there the second time—I did not tell Mr. Graven I discharged Milton for being a thief.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I did not give Milton into custody, because I had no coins marked.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-110" type="surname" value="STRIKE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-110" type="given" value="RICHARD JASPER"/>RICHARD JASPER STRIKE</persName> </hi>. I am a plumber, of 59, Boyson Road, Cam
<lb/>berwell—Milton occupied three rooms and the conservatory on the ground floor—he took them on 19th August, 1876, in the name of Milton—he left on 22nd March, 1877—Hartland did not occupy any room there—I have seen him there, and latterly sometimes every day, and sometimes twice a week—he came and stayed inside.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I never knew you to stop there a night—there was only one bed.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I never saw Field there.
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. Milton had a servant who slept there while Milton was away—there was also Mrs. Milton and two children—I believe they had a cot.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-111" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-111" type="surname" value="DICKENSON"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-111" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DICKENSON</persName> </hi>. I am a hop merchant, of No. 8, Hop Exchange, Southwark Street, and leaseholder of the Queen's Head Tavern, High Street, Southwark—in November, 1877, I was in treaty with Hartland with reference to the Queen's Head—he said he had 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the price was 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—when he came to fulfil his contract he could produce no money.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I did not tell you there was a difficulty about the transfer of the licence—I am not aware of your attending the Magistrate's Clerk's office and paying half a sovereign, nor signing notices of transfer—I sent to the Court because you had not the money to complete.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-112" type="surname" value="CONDIE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-112" type="given" value="JAMES BENJAMIN"/>JAMES BENJAMIN CONDIE</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. George Crisp Whitby, who is Clerk to the Justice of the Peace for Surrey at Newington—there is no public-house named the George in the parish of Rother
<lb/>hithe—the Surrey Commercial Docks are situated there—no person named Hartland has held a licence in that division since 1873—the Duke of York is in the same division—I find it registered in March, 1873—I saw Hartland sign this application for transfer (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th November</hi>, 1877,
<hi rend="italic">and described Hartland as residing at</hi> 8,
<hi rend="italic">Pratt Street</hi>)—the application was withdrawn—we do not inquire the reason of withdrawals.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. The Duke of York was licensed to George Allison in 1873-4—I do not know whether it was transferred to Allison because the house was to be taken down—it was renewed to Allison in 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I have searched what we call the Calendar from 1870 and find the holder of the licence of the Duke of York up to 1875 was Allison.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-113" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-113" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-113" type="surname" value="ROSE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-113" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROSE</persName> </hi>. I am Clerk to Mr. Bachelor, who is Clerk to the Justices of the Blackheath Division of Kent—the George public-house is in St. Paul's, Deptford—it was transferred to William Henry Hartland on 8th May, 1877, and on 10th July, 1877, it was transferred from Hartland and he has not been landlord since—it was transferred from Whiteman to Sykes on 26th September, 1876.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. You would have to give 14 days' notice of transfer.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-114" type="surname" value="NEVETT"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-114" type="given" value="WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER"/>WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER NEVETT</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Messrs. Meux in Tottenham Court Road—I have been there 25 years—I have known Hartland from 1858—he went into the Duke of York, Swan Lane, Rotherhithe, in December, 1873—it is near the Surrey Commercial Docks—from August to December it was closed for rebuilding—Hartland remained till the following August under an agreement to take up the lease, which lease he never took up—the house was kept open from December, 1873—Hartland had no other public-house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. You did a large trade—it was impossible to do it without help—you went to the expense of fitting it up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. It was a full licensed house—he must have had a barman, but I do not remember seeing Field there—I do not know Field—I knew Hartland before he took the house—he kept the Queen Katherine, in Brook Street—landlords do leave their business to a manager, who gives a monthly return, showing profit and loss occasion
<lb/>ally—it is not very common—I understood Hartland was manager of the Eagle, Camden Town.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. Hartland kept the Queen Katherine from 3rd February, 1870, to 14th June, 1871—he was proprietor—between June. 1871 and September, 1873 he was "a man out of business"—Mr. Howell got Hartland to assist him at the Eagle while he went out of town for a few days—I do not know of his being proprietor or manager of any other house.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-115" type="surname" value="REEVES"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-115" type="given" value="HERBERT"/>HERBERT REEVES</persName> </hi>. I was formerly a Sessions warder at Coldbath Fields—I know Field—he was tried at the Middlesex Sessions in the name of William Field on 8th September, 1873—I saw him in the dock, also in the prison almost daily—I cannot say how long he remained in prison, because we sent prisoners away to various parts of the country—I know Field is the same man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I am not mistaken—William Field is the name I have got him by—I will not swear I heard him given in charge in the name of William Field—I cannot recollect what part of the trial I was present, nor if I took him from the Sessions, nor how soon after that I saw him—I do not know how long he was under my notice at the House of Correction—he was there nine months—I can produce his photograph—I cannot say if he was sent away with other prisoners—I can refer to the books—I do not know his brother, nor that his brother is in Sheffield—I saw him chiefly on Sundays—I went to church twice a day—I had eight or nine under my charge—I cannot say if Field was one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I have no doubt Field is the same man—I have seen his photograph since I recognised him in the Court—I will refer to the books, and bring his photograph to-morrow.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I knew him as William Field—there was no other prefix to his name—this memorandum was made in May or June, 1874, at the date of Field's discharge—I know of no woman taking food into the gaol.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Friday</hi>, 28
<hi rend="italic">th June</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-116" type="surname" value="REEVES"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-116" type="given" value="HERBERT"/>HERBERT REEVES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-called</hi>). I have referred to the books, and produce the photograph—possibly there may be an error—a William Field was convicted then, and sent away to the Devonshire Castle—I wish to with
<lb/>draw my statement, as I do not think the prisoner Field is the same man, though the name is the same, and his hair was parted, like the prisoner's, in the middle—it is five years ago.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-117" type="surname" value="HOWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-117" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOWELL</persName> </hi>. I am proprietor of the Eagle Tavern, Camden Town—Hartland married my mother's sister—he assisted me in August, 1877, while my head barman was in the country about a week—he was only a temporary servant; I paid him nothing for his services—he has called at my house occasionally during the last three or four years—he had a beerhouse in Tyler Street, Lambeth, once, and he told me he had a house near the docks; I do not know the signs—one house might have been the George, at Deptford—he told me he paid a deposit at Norwood for a house, but that fell through—I went to the house at Lambeth once or twice.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I lived with you in 1859—you kept the Queen's Head, in Wardour Street, and the King's Arms, in High Street, Clerkenwell—you were doing between 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a month of trade—you went with me into the King of Prussia, John Street, Golden Square, in 1864—the licence was in my name—I forget why and the circumstances now—I cannot say if my sister visited you at the George—she did not tell me so.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I knew Hartland had a house near the docks three or four months ago, but I forget the sign of it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. He had sold the Queen's Head when he was keeping the King of Prussia—he kept the Ship, at Anthony Street—the King of</p>
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<p>Prussia was between the Queen's Head and the Ship—after that he kept the Queen Katherine, in Brook Street—I do not know if he had any other house till he went to the Duke of York, which he left about August, 1874—after that he was in a beerhouse in Lambeth—I went there on one or two occasions—I never heard of his being in Mr. Snell's service—two or three months is the longest time that has elapsed between the times I saw Hartland—I did not communicate with him in those times.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-118" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-118" type="surname" value="SWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-118" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER SWELL</persName> </hi>. I am a surveyor—I was interested in getting the Anglers' Arms, 64, Carlisle Street, Lambeth Walk—I got Hartland to take care of it—he was there from June to Christmas, 1876—I know nothing of Milton or Field—I paid Hartland, I think, 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. You had a profit on what was sold, and a percentage when the house was sold—I do not remember who was at the bar at the Anglers' when I called—you were not always there—the house was well conducted—I cannot say whether I saw Milton or Field behind the bar, or whether a man or woman was there—the house was sold, and Hartland was paid his commission.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I went to the Anglers' about once a week—I think I saw a man and a woman behind the bar besides Hart
<lb/>land—I could not swear I never went without seeing a man besides Hartland behind the bar.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I did not know Field was at Biscoe's from May to September, 1876.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-119" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-119" type="surname" value="DAY"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-119" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT DAY</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. William Henry Chapman, of the Barnard Castle, Queen Victoria Street—in March, 1877, Milton came for a barman's place—I asked him where he had been living—he said with Mr. Hartland for 11 months at a house which he mentioned, and said it was close to the Surrey Commercial Docks—he said Mr. Hartland was then out of business, and referred me to 89, Lorrimore Road for a character where Hartland was living—I told him if his character suited me I should engage him—I afterwards went to 89, Lorrimore Road—I saw Hartland at the door, and asked him whether he had any one in his employ named Milton—he said "Yes, he is a nephew of mine, will you come inside?"—I went in—he said "He is a very good boy, and everything you may wish for"—I said "Is he sober, honest, and industrious?—he said "Yes, he is, and if I had a house to-morrow I should take him back again"—I said "Well, I think I will engage him"—he said "You cannot do better"—Hartland appeared to be suffering from gout—he did not mention that Milton had been in Mr. Lewis's service four months, nor Mr. Squire's service two or three days—I engaged Milton on receiving that character—he stayed about ten days—he gave me warning—a gentleman called on me for his character—I did not give one—I did not see Hartland again till I saw him in custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. This occurred in March or April—I will not swear it was not May Milton did not refer me to the George, Com
<lb/>mercial Docks—I did not object to the distance—I asked you if Milton was a good barman, and you said "perfection," and not simply "Yes"—you did not say you thought he was sober, but "Yes"—you said at Guildhall you called at the Barnard Castle about Milton, and I told you you had not done so—Mrs. Day does not know you—she did not tell me you called—the gentleman who called about Milton said "Is he honest?"—I said "I have a doubt about it."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I said I believed Milton was sober, but I had a doubt about it—I have said "I found you sober while you were with me, and I never detected you in anything dishonest," referring to Milton.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-120" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-120" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-120" type="surname" value="CRABTREE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-120" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK CRABTREE</persName> </hi>. I am proprietor of the Jolly Sailors Hotel, Norwood—a day or two before the 24th August, 1877, Field came to me for employment as a barman—he said he had been living with a Mr. Hartland 12 months, who was then out of business, and that he left his employ through having the smallpox—he said Hartland was at the Eagle, Camden Town—I went there, and saw Hartland—I asked him if Field was honest, sober, and I am not sure if I said "industrious"—he said he was—I said I thought he would suit me—Field then came in—he was called forward—I told him Hartland had given him a very good character, and that I would engage him—I did so, and he remained in my employ till about 4th October—I discharged him because 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found under the carpet in his bedroom without his being able to account for it, and for coming home drunk—I had called him into the bar parlour, and told him the servant had found 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. under his carpet, and asked him to explain it—he said he did not put it there—I said "Some one must have put it there"—he kept on saying "I did not put it there"—he asked to go for his holiday—I said he might go—he did not return till the next day, when he was intoxicated—I discharged him when he got sober—he asked for a character—I said I could not think of doing so; if any one came I would give him a character as far as bar work was concerned, but I should mention the fact of the 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. being found—Hartland afterwards called, and asked why I discharged him—I said "Because 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found under his bedroom carpet, and for coming home drunk"—Hart
<lb/>land said "That is fatal to Field, and I won't give him another character."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I think you mentioned that Field had been in the smallpox hospital three months—you did not say you thought he was honest, but young men wanted looking after—I did not say if Field had returned in the morning I should have taken him on—I do not remember your using the words if he was dishonest you had done with him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I had a barman named "Charley"—"George" was the one who preceded Field—one Charles Girling re
<lb/>entered my service after Field left—I do not know that he kept company with the maid while Field was there, nor whether he was there the day before the 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found—my wife went to see the 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. under the carpet—I do not recollect when Girling re-entered my service—I did not go through my books when Field left—I have said "I found no difference in my takings while Field was with me"—that is a fact—Field was annoyed and indignant about the 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he did not deny being drunk; he reeled up to the counter—I said "I will talk to you when you are sober"—I did not mean that he was to come back to my service—I meant to discharge him if he had come back sober, because of the suspicious circumstance of finding the 4
<hi rend="italic">t</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I did not see any one put it under the carpet—I would sooner believe the servant than Field.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I do not know that the girl had any malice against Field—I understood Hartland to be Field's last employer—Mr. Biscoe's name was not mentioned.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-121" type="surname" value="NORRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-121" type="given" value="CHARLES EDWIN"/>CHARLES EDWIN NORRIS</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler and keep the Albion, Rodney Road, Walworth—in November, 1876, I had a vacancy for a barman—I saw a man who called himself Henry Ray—I after
<lb/>wards saw Hartland at my house—that was after I had been to Tooley Street to seek him—he said he had called about Henry Ray—I said "Yes"—he said "You will find him a very honest, straightforward young fellow; he lived with me 11 months, and I will take him back again if I take another house"—I engaged Ray, who was With me about three months, early in 1877—I did not discharge him for dishonesty—I next saw Hartland at the Guildhall.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I asked you if Ray was a good barman—I may have told Ray that my distiller was coming next day and I could not go out—the distiller's van may have been there when you called—I had my doubts about his honesty.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-122" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-122" type="surname" value="WILKIN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-122" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE WILKIN</persName> </hi>. I am a widow and the sister of Robert Spriggs, who keeps the Moor's Arms, at Bow Common—in October, 1877, a man came for a barman's place and saw Mr. Spriggs in my presence—on 15th October, Mr. Spriggs and I went to 58, St. George's Road, Southwark, and saw Hartland—Ray gave me this paper with that address on it—Mr. Spriggs asked Hartland if he knew Ray, as he had come for his character—Hartland said he did, that he was a very good barman, that he believed him to be perfectly honest, and that he had been with him 11 months—I asked Hartland if Ray had many followers—he said he never saw but one, and that was a cousin from the country, and he allowed him to go out with him the same evening—the reason given for Ray leaving was that Hartland had sold his house—upon that character Mr. Spriggs engaged Ray, who began his work on 17th October, 1877, and remained till 9th January this year—I missed money from the till while he was there—Mr. Spriggs discharged him to take on a former servant.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. Mr. Spriggs did not go to sleep on the sofa while I asked questions—I only asked one—you did not tell me Ray had lived with you a second time—I did not give Ray a character—Mr. Spriggs's health would not allow him to be here to-day.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I put two half-crowns in the till one morning, and on going to clear the till at 9 o'clock only one was there—the barman could not have given it in change because there was no coin in place of it of greater value.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-123" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-123" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-123" type="surname" value="ROBERTS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-123" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ROBERTS</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mrs. Sarah Harris, of the Royal Standard, Well Street, Whitechapel—at the latter end of August, 1877, Milton called on me for a barman's place—he said he was William Milton—I asked him where he had lived last—he said with Mr. Hartland, at a house opposite the Commercial Docks—he mentioned the sign, but I forget it, and that Mr. Hartland was then living in private in the Lorrimore Road—I asked him how long he had been with him—he said about 11 months—I asked why he left; he said on account of the house changing hands—I told him if his reference was satisfactory I would engage him—I went to 89, Lorrimore Road and saw Hartland in the front parlour—I said I had called respecting Milton, and asked how long he had lived with him—Hartland said "11 months," and told me the sign of the house, which I forget—I said "Is he honest?"—Hartland said he believed he was—I asked if Milton understood his business as</p>
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<p>barman—he said "Yes;" and if he was sober, and he said "Yes"—he added something about Milton having quarrelled with the manager of the house be had been living at, but I forget it—he did not mention his having given Milton a character in the name of Matthews to Mr. Squires and Mr. Lewis, or in the name of Milton to Mr. Day, nor anything about those places—I believed Milton's last master was Hartland, and believing his character I took him into my service—he remained a little over two months from 30th August—he left because of words with Mrs. Harris.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. You did not say "Milton left in May last," nor that Milton had been in a situation six weeks since he had left you, nor that you were recommended to give Milton a character as the time of six weeks was so short.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I said before the Magistrate, "I found him sober, and I believe honest"—I gave him a character, but not a good one—I said to Mr. Graven "On account of the short time he has been with me, although I had a very good character with him, I think you had better see Hartland as well."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-124" type="surname" value="GRAVEN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-124" type="given" value="JAMES LAWRENCE"/>JAMES LAWRENCE GRAVEN</persName> </hi>. I keep the Middlesex Music Hall in Drury Lane—I advertised for a barman two or three days before the 1st December, and Milton came in the name of William Milton—I asked him what was his last situation, and how long he had left—he said he lived with a Mrs. Harris in Well Street, Wellclose Square, for about two months, and previously with Mr. Hartland at a house opposite the Surrey Commercial Docks—he mentioned the sign, which I forget—I went to Mrs. Harris's, and saw her manager—that reference was not satisfactory—I saw Milton in the evening and told him so—he referred me to Mr. Hartland, of 89, Lorrymore Road, Walworth—I went there—it is a private house—I saw Hartland in the parlour—I said "Your name is Mr. Hart
<lb/>land; have you had a young man named Milton in your employ?"—he said "Yes," and he had lived with him 11 months—I asked if he was honest, sober and industrious, punctual, and such like—he said "Yes, I can thoroughly recommend him, the only fault was that he did not quite agree with his manager"—on that character I engaged him—Hartland did not tell me that he had given him a reference in the name of Milton to Mr. Squire and Mr. Day, nor in the name of Matthews to Mr. Lewis—I understood from Milton and Hartland that Mrs. Harris's was the only situation he bad had since leaving Hartland—he came on 1st December, 1877, and was there till 14th May, 1878, when he was taken into custody—while he was with me my takings were less than at the same time last year—they improved after he left.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I told you Milton had had a character from Mr. Roberts, which I was not satisfied with because it was so short a time, and Mr. Roberts complained of his loitering in the kitchen with the maid—you did not tell me Milton had lived with you eight months, two mouths, and one month—you told me he had lived with you twice, and that you would take him again if you went into business—I kept him four or five weeks longer than I should have done, because the Society wished me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. Milton told me Mr. Lewis had been to my place—I had no fault to find with his general conduct—his duties were in the tavern only—one barman was with him, and sometimes two—one</p>
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<p>barman had been with me 15 or 18 months, the other four or five years—I serve occasionally.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-125" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-125" type="surname" value="ROSE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-125" type="given" value="EDWARD JOHN"/>EDWARD JOHN ROSE</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of Blakeney's Head, Cable Street East, Wellclose Square—previous to Christmas last I had a vacancy for a barman, and went to Field's lodgings at 2, Crescent Cottages, the address given in an advertisement—Field was not at home, but came next day, and said his name was Field—I said "What did you leave your last place for?"—he said because Mr. Wilson, his employer, was out of business—he mentioned some house on the Surrey side, and said he had been with Mr. Wilson about four years—he said Mr. Wilson was coming to a beerhouse near my house, and he would call—afterwards Hartland called—I said "Has Field lived with you?"—he said "Yes, on and off four years"—I said "Is he sober?"—he said "Yes"—"Honest?"—"Yes, everything that could be wished for"—he did not mention having given Field a character to Mr. Crab tree, of Norwood—I took him into my service two or three days before Christmas—he remained about three weeks—while he was there I noticed people coming who had not used the house before—I saw Field give a handful of coppers and some cigars over the counter to one of these strangers—the takings were less than last year, and when he was gone they increased—I paid him no wages, but discharged him on account of a row in the bar.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. You did not read out "Hartland" on an envelope—I did not want Field to look after a pony and trap, but simply as barman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. Field cross-examined me at the police-court—I do not remember saying I could not swear he did not say Hart
<lb/>land's name was Hartland—I swore the name Field gave was Wilson—I think I did say "On the following day the prisoner Field called on me; he said, I think, Mr. Wilson was his last employer"—I did not write down the name he gave me, and I did not see Hartland take up the piece of paper—I do not remember Hartland giving it to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I said "Afterwards Field introduced Hartland at my house as Wilson"—that is a fact—I have no doubt the name Wilson was used.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-126" type="surname" value="MARTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-126" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MARTIN</persName> </hi>. I am the landlord of 89, Lorrimore Road, Wal
<lb/>worth—Milton came to me about the house—he afterwards came with Hartland, whom he called his uncle, and said he was a retired publican—they arranged to occupy the house jointly—Hartland signed this agree
<lb/>ment (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th March</hi>, 1877,
<hi rend="italic">and was between Milton, Hartland, and the witness for taking</hi> 89,
<hi rend="italic">Lorrimore Road</hi>)—this card was given to me when they called: "W. Hartland, Wine and Spirit Merchant, Duke of York, Swan Lane, Rotherhithe"—I gave receipts for 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., the quarter's rent, on 11th July, October 17th, 1877, and 16th January, and 1st May, 1878—Milton brought the first quarter, I fetched the second—Mrs. Milton gave it to me; Mr. Hartland paid me the next, and Mrs. Milton the last—I only saw Hartland at the house once when he paid the rent.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I do not remember Milton saying you sent the rent—I do not think I said he did say so at the police-court.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. Hartland said to me in the court "I sent it to you."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-127" type="surname" value="BENNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-127" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BENNETT</persName> </hi>. I live at 29, Adam Street, Lambeth—Hartland occupied a room there from 22nd December, 1876, to March, 1877, at 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-128" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL STOCKS</persName> </hi>. I live at 18, Pratt Street, Lambeth Road—Hartland occupied a first-floor back room from 4th June, 1877, till he was arrested, at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week—Milton visited him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-129" type="given" value="JOHN ROBERT"/>JOHN ROBERT WIDGINGTON</persName> </hi>. In July, 1875, I let 182, St. George's Road, Peckham, to George Wright, who occupied it till August, 1877, at a weekly rent—Hartland had no rooms there under me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-130" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-130" type="given" value="ROBERT SKIRROW"/>ROBERT SKIRROW DANTER</persName> </hi>. I carry on business at the Three Swedish Crowns, Old Gravel Lane, the licence of which Milton transferred to me on 2nd May, 1876, and assigned to me the lease—I produce the assign
<lb/>ment of Henry Roberts and another to Milton, of the Three Swedish Crowns, of the 12th January, 1876, also mortgage to Messrs. Day, Noakes, and Son, who lent 750
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the house, of the same date, and assignment to me of 7th June, 1876, and the licence of 2nd May, when I went in—a broker was in then, and the house was closed.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-131" type="surname" value="FITCH"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-131" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN FITCH</persName> </hi>. I am parish clerk to St. Nicholas, Deptford—I pro
<lb/>duce the papers relating to the transfer of the licence of the George, Deptford, from Nathaniel Sykes to William Hartland—the address is London Street, Deptford, usually called Grove Lane—the endorsement, "William Henry Hartland, Licensed Victualler," on the notice is mine—I served this notice at Hartland's request. (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th April</hi>, 1877,
<hi rend="italic">of the intention of Sykes to apply for transfer to Hartland on</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th May, Hart
<lb/>land's address being</hi> 29,
<hi rend="italic">Allen Street, Westminster Bridge Road, and</hi> 64,
<hi rend="italic">Carlisle Street, Lambeth</hi>.)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-132" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-132" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD WHITE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector R</hi>). I am attached to the Rotherbithe subdivision—I know the George, in Grove Street, Deptford—the Surrey Commercial Dock Company rent it on a three months' agreement—Hart
<lb/>land was there from early in April till the end of June, 1877—it was transferred to a Mr. Humphreys on 10th July—I visited the house in the course of my duty—I never saw Milton nor Field there as barmen—I once saw Milton in front of the bar—I only saw Hartland and an elderly woman behind the bar.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. It is an out-of-the-way house used by the dock—I swear I saw you serve—I do not know your wife—I knew you had the gout, but you could stand.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I went to the George about eight times—I have about eighty public-houses in my district—it is a rough neighbourhood, a tiresome district—I inquired what houses Hartland had kept, and saw how things were going on, and went away—Hartland said he had kept the Ship, in Anthony Street, Commercial Road, the Queen Katherine, in Brook Street, Ratcliff, and the Duke of York, Swan Lane, Rotherhithe.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. Hartland did not give me the dates of his keeping these houses.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-133" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-133" type="surname" value="CLARIDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-133" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CLARIDGE</persName> </hi>. I am a newsagent, at 144, Evelyn Street, Deptford—when Hartland was at the George I supplied the newspapers, and called each morning—I saw no one serving but Hartland—I saw a lad, a potman there, but no elderly female.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I came usually about 8 o'clock—I saw you—you were not absent eighteen days—I have no knowledge of seeing Milton or Field behind the bar.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I did not stay in the house except on Saturdays for the money—Hartland paid me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-134" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES MIDDLETON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). My duty has been to visit the public-houses in the Rotherhithe subdivision—I visited the Duke of York alter it was opened, in August, 1874, two or three times a week—I fre
<lb/>quently saw Hartland—there were two bars, long but rather narrow—I never saw Milton nor Field behind the bar to my knowledge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I saw a young man serve—I have seen three fresh faces there in a week.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I used to wear a fur cap—I will not swear Milton was not there if it is in his mind that he saw a man answer
<lb/>ing my description—I was not in uniform—I do not remember any inspector coming in at one door and my going sharply out at another—I was first spoken to about this by my inspector about a fortnight ago—I visit about eighty public-houses.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I could not swear Field was not there.
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I never knew one person acting continuously as barman while Hartland was there, or from December, 1873, to August, 1874.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-135" type="surname" value="CHAMBERLIN"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-135" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CHAMBERLIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). I have known William Field thirteen years—I missed him in 1862 or 1863 for about eighteen months or two years—I met him afterwards at Newington Butts—I asked him how he got on—he said, "Not very grand," and asked me if I could get him a situation, or do anything for him, as potman or porter, or anything, he would not mind what—I said, "Well, I could not recommend you exactly from what I have heard; I have been told that you have been convicted, and I should not like to do that; if I did, you would have to tell the person I recommended you to, and if they liked to take you upon that they might"—he said, "I have just come out for a little affair about a girl I have got into trouble over"—I said, "But you have been con
<lb/>victed of felony; if it was only the girl, I should not mind that"—he said, "I would tell them that, and it would be all right if you will recommend me; I have got linked in with that gang up there, and it is no use my going into a public house; they will follow me wherever I go, and I cannot get a living; I should like to get out of it"—I said if I knew of a place, if he met me I would not mind recommending him—I have seen him several times since; the last time he was with a tall man, and on seeing me they walked away—when I looked in the Court yester
<lb/>day, I was surprised to see him here.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I spoke to Reeves yesterday—I heard Field had been convicted of robbing his master, a publican—I cannot give the master's name or the sign of the house—it was about two years ago—I do not know the year he was convicted in—I do not think the prisoner told me—I do not know the amount of the robbery—I knew Field at the Red Lion, in Red Lion Street, Holborn—I cannot tell you when I met him after missing him—it was about 18 months or two years ago—I believe he said he had been in service at Norwood—I do not remember the name—he did not say no one would go there for his character, the service was so short—he did not tell me he had been accused of putting money under the carpet, nor that he had been wrongfully accused—I never heard that he had a brother named William Field, but with another different Christian name.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-136" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-136" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-136" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-136" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant</hi>). About 10 o'clock on 14th May I had a warrant and went to 18, Pratt Street, Lambeth, in plain clothes—I saw Hartland—I said "I am a police-sergeant; I have a warrant</p>
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<p>for your arrest for conspiring with a person named Milton in getting a situation by means of a false character—he said "I never gave anybody a false character, have I?" (appealing to his wife) "only those that have been in my employ"—I took him into custody—his wife was crying—he said to the people in the house "Don't take any notice"—I took him to the station and he was searched—a watch and 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found on him—I afterwards went to the Middlesex Music Hall, in Drury Lane, with Harding—Milton was in the bar—I went upstairs—I said "Milton, I am a police officer, and have a warrant for your arrest"—Milton said "I am sorry for that"—I read the warrant—he said "I know nothing about it"—I said I should take him into custody—he repeated "I am sorry for that"—at the station I asked him his name and address—he said "I refuse to say"—I said "Well, we know where you live, you live at 89, Lorrimore Road"—Harding searched him—on 27th May I saw Field at the station—I read the warrant to him—he said he knew Mr. Rose, of Cable Street, he had been in his service to look after his horse—Mr. Rose's name is mentioned on the warrant—I also said "There will be another charge preferred against you at the Jolly Sailors, Norwood, some money has been found under the carpet there"—he said he had also been engaged there to look after a horse, and "I knew Mr. Hartland, I had been in his service."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I do not remember Field saying Hart
<lb/>land had given a reference to Mr. Rose, for he had worked for him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-137" type="surname" value="HARDING"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-137" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HARDING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). I was with Smith when Milton was taken into custody—on taking him to the cell he said "Are you going to break it gently to my wife?"—I said "Where is she?"—he said "At 89, Lorrimore Road"—the next morning, May 15th, he said "Have you been to see my wife?"—I said "Yes, I have"—he said "That house was taken by Hartland by arrangement"—I told him I had been to see his house—he said "I was trying to stay at that place to get a straight character," referring to the Middlesex Music Hall; "Hartland has screwed me up very tight, he is a mean old man, he only put me in three places"—on 27th May I was with another officer near the Elephant and Castle—I saw Field and took him into custody—I said "Mr. Field?"—he said "No, that is not my name, my name is James Harvey"—I said "I know you as William Field; there is a warrant granted for your arrest in the City for conspiring with one Henry Hartland to obtain a situation by means of a false character"—he said "I am not a barman, I am a commercial traveller"—on the way to the station he said "I sometimes use the name of Field; I have been a barman, I wish I had never seen the bar, I am disgusted with it."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Hartland</hi>. I do not remember telling you and Milton in the cells that his employers had stated he was the best barman they ever had.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I did not hear Smith's evidence, nor your cross-examination of Smith—I said at the police-court Field was taken for conspiring with Hartland and others—I do not know whether it was taken down.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. I was first consulted about this matter two months ago—I went to the Middlesex Music Hall on two occasions—I cannot fix the date—I think about ten days before Milton's arrest—I did not tell Milton I was sorry to have him, but it was the old</p>
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<p>man I was anxious to hit—I did not give him brandy and lemonade after I had him in custody—I did not see Smith do so.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. When I took Field Hartland's name was mentioned, and Field said "Let's see, Hartland?"—I then explained the charge, and he said "Yes, I know him."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Hartland in his defence stated he had employed Milton and Field as barmen and had given them just characters</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HARTLAND</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on First and Third Groups of Counts.</hi> </rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-613-18780624 t18780624-613-punishment-19"/>Two Years' Imprisonment with hard labour</rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">MILTON</hi>
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<interp inst="t18780624-613-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>generally</rs>.—
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy.</hi>
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<interp inst="t18780624-613-punishment-20" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-613-punishment-20" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="hardLabour"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-613-18780624 t18780624-613-punishment-20"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment with hard labour</rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">FIELD</hi>
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<interp inst="t18780624-613-verdict-3" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-613-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of conspiracy with intent to steal and to cheat and defraud.</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18780624-613-punishment-21" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-613-punishment-21" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-613-18780624 t18780624-613-punishment-21"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment without hard labour</rs>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Friday, June</hi> 28
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Manisty</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TICKELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">A. B. KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHAPMAN</hi>. I live at 12, Victoria Road, and am a painter—on Saturday, 18th May, I was in the Adelaide Road at 20 minutes past 9 p.m, coming towards Camden Town—I saw the deceased Turner walking in the same direction, and I saw five or six volunteers coming in the opposite direction—I did not see any blow struck, but as soon as the volunteers got to Turner he fell down and one of the volunteers ran away—I cannot identify him—he almost knocked me down as he passed by—I and Evans went and picked the man up and got a bowl of water and washed him—he was quite insensible—a policeman came up, we put the deceased in a cab and took him to the hospital</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I saw the deceased walking along in front of me—he walked straight enough—the road was up—they were going to put asphalte down and the kerb stones were lying about loose—it was between the lights.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-140" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-140" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK WACKERLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a gardener and live at 22, Bridge Street—I am a volunteer in the 36th Middlesex, the same corps as the pri
<lb/>soner—on 18th May, about 9.20, I was in the Adelaide Road with the prisoner, William Beadon, George and Thomas Smith, and Stephen Bennett, all volunteers—we were coming towards Kilburn—we met the deceased—he was going to strike me—I ran out of the way—the prisoner came up—I saw him raise his hand as though he was going to strike the man, but I did not see him strike him—I believe the prisoner ran away—I went away and left the old man there—I did not think he was injured, I did not look.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The deceased was rather tall and thin—we had our side arms on—I had given no provocation to the deceased—he was drunk—the prisoner is a painter by trade—I have been in the same corps with him about five months—he bears the character of a peaceable, well con
<lb/>ducted lad—he is not yet 20.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-141" type="surname" value="BEADON"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-141" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BEADON</persName> </hi>. I am a carpenter, of Clarence Place, Kilburn—on</p>
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<p>this night I was in the Adelaide Road, in advance of the prisoner—the deceased passed me—I saw him fall backwards and I went to his assistance.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. He was not sober, I saw that from his way of walking, he was all over the pavement—I heard some one say "Where are you shoving to? don't strike the man."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-142" type="surname" value="BENNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-142" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN BENNETT</persName> </hi>. I live at 3, Newman Place, Kentish Town—I am a volunteer—I was in company with the prisoner—I saw the deceased pass—I did not see him fall—about five minutes afterwards the prisoner passed me—he said he had just knocked a man down, and he walked on rather sharp—I saw the old man on the ground and went to him—he was insensible.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-143" type="surname" value="EVANS"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-143" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD EVANS</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, and live at 7, Falcon Terrace, Kil
<lb/>burn—I was in the Adelaide Road and saw one of the volunteers strike the deceased—I was nine or ten yards off—it was dark—I could not see whether his hand was open or closed—he fell on his back—I helped him up—I saw blood on his head and on my sleeve.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I saw the arm of the volunteer go straight out to the the old man and he fell—I could not say that he hit him—he fell instantly.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-144" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18780624-name-144" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a glazier, of 148, Bayham Street, Kentish Town—on 18th May I was in the Adelaide Road—the prisoner ran past me, and as he passed he said "I have just knocked a man down."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I am a volunteer—I did not see the old man—I knew the prisoner before—I and Bennett and Thomas Smith were walking on in front.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780624-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-145" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL CROW</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector S</hi>). I apprehended the prisoner on the 25th May on the parade at Paddington Green—I told him that the man he had knocked down in Adelaide Road last Saturday night was in University College Hospital, dying, if not dead, and I should charge him with the assault—he said "Very well, I am very sorry."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780624-name-146" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18780624-name-146" type="given" value="STANLEY"/>STANLEY BOYD</persName> </hi>. I was house-surgeon at University College Hospital on 18th May when the dece