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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>OWDEN, MAYOR.</p>
<p>SEVENTH SESSION, HELD MAY 6TH, 1878.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>ALEXANDER BUCKLER,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
<p>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>VOL. LXXXVIII.</p>
<p>SESSIONS VII. TO XII.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS & SONS, 119, CHANCERY LANE, E.C.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX,KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, May 6th, 1878, and following days,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON.</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS SCAMBLER OWDEN, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-1" type="given" value="ROBERT WILLIAM"/>ROBERT WILLIAM GROVE</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of the Common Pleas Division of the High Court of Justice; The Hon. Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES POLLOCK</hi>, Knt., one of the Barons of the Exchequer Division of the High Court of Justice;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS SIDNEY</hi>, Esq.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS QUESTED FINNIS</hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-2" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Esq., and Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS DAKIN</hi>, Knt., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHAMBERS</hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN WHIT
<lb/>TAKER ELLIS</hi>, Esq.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES FIGGINS</hi>, Esq., and
<hi rend="smallCaps">EDGAR BREFFIT</hi>, Esq., D.C.L., other of the Aldermen of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM THOMAS CHARLEY</hi>, Esq., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</hi>, Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GEORGE SWAN NOTTAGE</hi>, Esq., Alderman,</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-3" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN STAPLES</persName> </hi>, Esq., Alderman,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY HOMEWOOD CRAWFORD</hi>, Esq.,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS MICKLEM</hi>, Jun., Esq.,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OWDEN, MAYOR. SEVENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—he figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CHARLES MATHEWS</hi>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-5" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM STREET</persName> </hi>. I am a wholesale cabinet-maker, and live at Pem
<lb/>broke Lodge, Croydon Road, Penge—I keep an account at the Shoreditch branch of the Central Bank of London—on 1st March I drew a cheque on this form (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I have the counterfoil here—I handed the cheque to Mr. Cross—at that time it was for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the counter
<lb/>foil bears that amount—I did not know much of Cross—he sold mats for packing furniture—he came round to sell them—I hare never seen him since—it was about six in the evening when I drew the cheque—the original "5" has been left, and the "8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>." for the pence—I can't say whether the "£" signifying pounds is mine—I should say not—the words "hundred and eleven pounds" have been put in.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I do not Know where Cross lives—I had two, three, or perhaps four dealings with him before—I had never given him a cheque before—I gave it him at my place of business, at the Railway Arches, New Inn Yard, Shoreditch—I do not know a man named Hayes—there were two or three people with Cross when I gave him the cheque—I can't say whether Hayes was one of them—I know nothing of Cross beyond the two or three dealings—I don't know that he has been in trouble—I don't know where he has gone to.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-6" type="given" value="HERBERT RIPLEY"/>HERBERT RIPLEY COLLINS</persName> </hi>. I am a cashier in the Shoreditch branch of the Central Bank of London—Mr. Street keeps an account there, and I am acquainted with his signature—on Saturday, 2nd March, about 1 o'clock, this cheque was presented to me over the counter—the person asked me for Bank of England notes, and that he wanted small ones—I cashed the cheque—I made this entry at the time—there was a 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, No. 82525, dated June 13th, 1877, two 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, one No. 004647, dated 13th August, 1877, and 31 tens, 14 consecutive numbers, 03157 to'70 inclusive, dated 11th August, 1877, and the other 17, Nos. 16551 to '67,</p>
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<p>same date, 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold, and eight pence, making up the 511
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I can't say whether it was endorsed "William Cross" at the time it was brought to me, or done in my presence, it being a bearer cheque—Mr. Street keeps a large account, so that I was able to pay it at once—I do not recognise the prisoner—it was a man who presented it—I don't re
<lb/>member whether it was a man I had seen before.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I have said before that I believed I should recognise the person to whom I cashed the cheque.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-7" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). In consequence of instructions on 2nd March I went to Newington Causeway about 3.15 in the afternoon—I saw the prisoner leaving the shop of Mr. Kino, a tailor—he was about to get into a cab when I went up to him and said "My name is Taylor, I am a detective officer of the City police, and have to arrest you on suspicion of forging letters of credit on the London Joint Stock Bank," he said "Yes"—I said "You will have to accompany me to the City"—on the way he said "Let me understand you distinctly"—I then repeated what I have already said—at the Bow Lane station he said "What am I waiting here now for?"—I said "For Sergeant Moss, who has the case in hand, and who will explain matters to you"—he said "The only transaction I have had with the Joint Stock Bank was a cheque for 51
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.," and he handed this cheque to me—he said "I know I am a wide man, and don't want to be shown up"—I asked him to produce every
<lb/>thing he had got about him, and he handed me over a variety of articles—he took two small bottles from his pocket and was about to dash them on the floor—I took them from his hand and said "What have you there?"—he said "It is medicine"—at the station he gave the name of Charles Cherwood—he refused his address. (
<hi rend="italic">The</hi> 51
<hi rend="italic">l. cheque was signed J. Watson, payable to Charles Cherwood, and so endorsed</hi>.)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. When I arrested the prisoner I told him it was on suspicion of forging letters of credit, not for forging on the London Joint Stock Bank.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-8" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MOSS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Sergeant</hi>). On Saturday, 2nd March, I saw the prisoner at the Bow Lane station—I told him he would be charged with forging 10 letters of credit or circular notes, eight of which had been changed at the Grand Hotel at Paris—he said, "I have never been across the water; I have never been to Paris"—I saw Taylor take from him this 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bank note, No. 822, 525, dated 13th June, 1877, six 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, Nos. 16, 555 to 16, 560, dated 11th August, and 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in gold and a few shillings in silver—I produce the two bottles I saw at the station marked D and E—after the prisoner had been charged at the station I went to 39, St. Mark's Road, Kennington, which I knew to be his address—I had caused him to be watched—in the front room, ground floor, I found on a table this camel-hair brush and a small piece of sponge, and in a glass on the table I found some liquid—I put that in a bottle labelled A—I also found a bottle, marked B, in the same room, and another, marked C, containing size—in the pocket-book taken from the prisoner at the station I found these two camel-hair brushes—at his lodgings I found a seven-barrel revolver, loaded, a box of cartridges, and a pawn-ticket dated 23rd February, 1878, in the name of George Wood—I gave the bottles to Dr. Saunders—at the time he was charged I did not know of this case.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I know nothing personally of Cross—I can't say</p>
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<p>whether he is a convicted or suspected person; what I have heard would be against him—I have sought for him, and have not been able to find him—I ascertained, not his address, but where he had been seen occa
<lb/>sionally—I know nothing of Hayes in connection with Cross, only from report—I have endeavoured to trace him, but unsuccessfully—what I have heard of him would not be favourable.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-9" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE BURGESS</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, of 39, St. Mark's Road, Camber
<lb/>well—I let apartments—on 3rd January the prisoner took a bedroom there in the name of Sherwood, and said he came from New York—I went into the room from time to time—I saw one or two small bottles on the mantelshelf—he went out on the morning of 2nd March between 9 and 10 o'clock—he asked me for some silver; I had none, so gave him a half-sovereign—he was not visited by any one while with me—he only brought with him this bag and an overcoat—he was sometimes out; he was at home occasionally.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">vice versa</hi>—I wrote two lines, and then com
<lb/>pletely removed one line and transposed the upper with the lower line, with the liquids in D and E.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-11" type="given" value="SIDNEY ROBERT"/>SIDNEY ROBERT SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am the Governor of Newgate—since the prisoner's apprehension, and during the examination before the Magis
<lb/>trate, and after his committal, he has been under my charge—I received this letter; he sent it to me—I read it, and saw him—I told him I had read his letter, that it was impossible I could assist him in a matter of that kind, that I had sent it to the authorities, and if I heard anything from them I would let him know—this other letter he also sent to me on 11th April—I put the date on it.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">These letters were read as follows</hi>:—"28th March, 1878.—Governor,—Pardon the liberty I am taking in addressing you, but really you seem to be the only man I have met since coming to this country who seems to have mind enough to grasp an idea of some magniture, which I am about to present to you as briefly as possible. Some years since I made the acquaintance of a noted forger, the one, in fact, who did the most of the work for those people McDonald, Bidwell, &c., who are called the great Bank of England forgers. Through him I became acquainted with others, who, knowing me as a sporting man who was ' all right, ' did not hesitate about talking in my presence. In fact, I admit that I assisted them in various ways, both as a chemist and as a man who thoroughly understood business matters of all kinds. About a year since my friend whom I have mentioned came to me and said that he was sick of the business, and wanted to leave it altogether. He therefore proposed that I should communicate with the banks and bankers of the city of New York and with the Treasury Department at Washington, offering for a certain yearly sum (about 10 per cent. of the average annual losses from such causes) to</p>
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<hi rend="italic">utterly prevent all forging and counterficting</hi>. The parties with whom I communicated were very much taken with the idea, and it seemed at one time as if it was a certainty that it would be taken up, but unfortunately the Government detectives got wind of it (and they are all more or less in collusion with the counterfeiters), and they were able, through their backers in the Treasury and in Congress, to prevent an appropriation being made. In New York city we also were disappointed, for we could get no
<hi rend="italic">concerted</hi> action; each man we saw was pleased with the idea, but when it came to patting his hand in his pocket it was another thing; therefore it fell through—at least for the present. When I was sent for to come over here (which I will explain to you at some future time), I fully intended to try and make some arrangement with the authorities here of the same kind. I have had no opportunity of doing so until now, and let me make the offer to you.
<hi rend="italic">You</hi> make all the arrangements, and I will guarantee that for 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per annum we will prevent
<hi rend="italic">professional</hi> forgers from plying their vocation in
<hi rend="italic">London</hi>; for another 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. we will prevent them from working in
<hi rend="italic">England</hi>, and for a third 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from swindling any bank or banking house in
<hi rend="italic">Great Britain</hi>. This may seem to you an impossibility, but let me assure you, upon my honour, it is
<hi rend="italic">not</hi>. You would be surprised were I to tell you how many professional forgers there are. Why, if you will believe me, all the forgers, counterfeiters, engravers, photographers, and chemists (who are connected with crooked business) in the
<hi rend="italic">world</hi> can be counted upon your fingers. Therefore, you see how easy it would be for me, for instance, with the assistance of say two men in London, three men in the States, and one in Paris, one in Berlin, and one in Rome, to have timely notice of whatever was coming off and
<hi rend="italic">prevent them from working on our territory</hi>. In fact, we would act as lightning conductors, so to speak. The men whom I would employ are all men who have been years in the business, and who in the folly of it, they are willing to do anything for a living, but still would not consent to
<hi rend="italic">give any one away</hi> and have them arrested; they would merely warn them not to work here. In fact, it would be something like the Preventive Service in which, I believe, it was not unusual to find old smugglers, and they made the most efficient officers. There are a thousand things I could say to you in favour of my plan, and should you see fit to question me about it, I will be happy to give you all needed information. In order to show you that I know whereof I speak, let me inform you that it was intended to flood the London and European market this summer, during the Exposition, with all kinds of forgeries. The French bank notes, for which some men were arrested last month, were a part of what were to be used, but the men who had them got hard up, I suppose, and had to let some of them go. For this market there has been manufactured more than
<hi rend="italic">one million of pounds</hi> of stuff, principally bonds. There were to be sold through certain brokers in the City, two of whom
<hi rend="italic">I know</hi>. About 75,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of bonds, all ready for use, except a few minutes' work on each, are now awaiting my order on the other side. If it is required, I will send for them as soon as I am liberated, and have them sent to one of the parties who has promised them. There are a lot ready, a large amount of drafts of a certain steamship company, a few samples are here, but the bulk is on the other side. These I can get also at any time. In fact, I could mention, were it necessary, a dozen different things now ready or nearly ready for this</p>
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<p>market. Will the Treasury and the Banking Association allow them to come, and thousands of people to be robbed of their all, for the sake of sending
<hi rend="italic">me</hi> to prison for a few years? Now, Governor, you are the man to take this thing in hand. It would be worth a thousand a year to you, if not more, and all you would have to do would be to transmit my daily or weekly report to the proper persons. You would not be known to any one but me, nor would I be known to any one but you and the people under my control,
<hi rend="italic">who would not know each other</hi>. At least, they would not know that each was in my employ. Please think seriously over this matter, and let me know your opinion at your earliest con
<lb/>venience. By so doing, you will oblige, yours respectfully (signed), Chas. Cherwood." "Gaol of Newgate, April 11th, 1878. To Mr. Abrams or the solicitor for the Central Bank. Gentlemen,—I hear that the utterer of the forged check is now under arrest for some offense: so if you want him you can fetch him. Don't you think it was unwise on your part to refuse to take advantage of the liberal offers I made you more than two weeks since? Perhaps Mr. Chapman never showed you my ' written propositions' with a synopsis of what I was able and willing to do. Did he? Please answer at once, and oblige, yours, &c., Chas, Cherwood. It may not be too late yet."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The prisoner's then solicitor, Mr. Chapman, was in communication with him prior to his writing that first letter—I am not sure as to his being in communication with him up to the writing of the second letter.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-13" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK YOUNG</persName> </hi>. I reside at 5, Queensbury Place, Commercial Road—on 13th August I got from my bankers, the London Joint Stock Bank, 10 circular notes of 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each, also a letter of indication—I kept that separate from the notes—I left London for Paris on 15th August—my pocket-book containing the notes was safe during the sea passage—I had occasion to look at it—as I was going ashore down the gangway I was pressed—there was a large crowd, 270 people were on board—when I got into the train I found that my circular notes had been stolen—at the time the pushing took place I particularly noticed a person near me—the prisoner resembles that person, but I should not like to swear to him—he was facing me, which drew my attention, as he ought to have had his back to me going off the boat—I telegraphed from Amiens, where the train stopped for a few minutes, and again from Paris—I kept the letter of indication in my possession, the number of it was 16391.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. There was a great crowd on landing—the vessel was actually made fast at the time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-14" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-14" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-14" type="surname" value="QUARREY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-14" type="given" value="PYTHAGORAS"/>PYTHAGORAS QUARREY</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the London Joint Stock Bank—in August last I prepared 10 circular notes of 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each for Mr. Young, dated 13th August, 1877—they contained the same number as the letter of indication 16391—eight of those notes are now produced; the payee's name has been altered from Frederick Young to Edward Austin, and the date from 13th August to 5th February, and the number from 16391 to 16615—there is some of my writing on them, which partly enables me to recognise them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-15" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-15" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-15" type="surname" value="SEYMOUR"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-15" type="given" value="AUGUSTE NICOLAS"/>AUGUSTE NICOLAS SEYMOUR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Interpreted</hi>). I am cashier at the Grand</p>
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<p>Hotel, Paris—the prisoner arrived there on the evening of 7th February between 8 and 9 o'clock, with a letter of credit and two circular notes for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each—he showed me a letter of indication—he gave no name at first—after inspecting the letter of indication he signed the name of Edward Austin on the notes for the two notes—I gave him three 100-franc notes, and 10 20-franc pieces—about 10 o'clock the same evening he brought these six other circular notes, which I changed—I did not ask for the letter of indication as to those; he wrote on those notes, and I gave him two notes of 1800 francs, two of 500 francs each, three of 100 francs each, and 10 20-franc pieces—this registered packet had arrived from London that morning addressed to Edward Austin—no person of that name stopped at the hotel that night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The postman took back the packet to the post-office.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-16" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-16" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-16" type="surname" value="REYNOLDS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-16" type="given" value="JOSHUA"/>JOSHUA REYNOLDS</persName> </hi>. I am head cashier of the Southwark branch of the London Joint Stock Bank—we had a customer named John Watson, of 71, Clapham Road—he opened an account on 31st January last—on 5th February he brought this cheque for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. dated 4th February; he handed it to me, and in consequence of what he said, I applied to our head office for 10 circular notes for him; these are the notes and this is the letter of indication, and we posted them in a letter to Mr. Watson, 71, Clapham Road, and he acknowledged the receipt of them next morning—I have never seen him since—this 51
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque is in his writing, it was presented to us through the Clearing House on 25th February, with Mr. Kino's name stamped on it, and we declined to pay it, there not being sufficient funds by 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to meet it—we afterwards received from Watson about 30 unused cheques in an envelope, they were cheques that had been issued to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-17" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-17" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-17" type="surname" value="ADAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-17" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ADAMS</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the department of the London Joint Stock Bank where they prepare circular notes—on 6th February I pre
<lb/>pared 10 circular notes for John Watson for the Southwark branch of our bank for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each, and a letter of indication, No. 16615—there would be reference in the notes to that number.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. Those notes were returned to us on 16th March, having been previously paid at Boulogne—they have on them the stamp of Adam and Co., of 7th February, which denotes that they were paid by Adam and Co. on that day—in the ordinary course the letter of indi
<lb/>cation would be presented at the time; but that rests with our foreign correspondent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-18" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-18" type="surname" value="BURGESS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-18" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE BURGESS</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">repeated her former evidence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-19" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-19" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-19" type="surname" value="PALMER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-19" type="given" value="NEIL NETCH"/>NEIL NETCH PALMER</persName> </hi>. I am senior clerk in the manager's department of the South-Eastern Railway—the tidal train communicates with a steamer belonging to the South-Eastern Company—on 7th February it left Charing Cross at 10.45 and would arrive at Paris at 8.15.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-20" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-20" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-20" type="surname" value="STEPHENSON"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-20" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM STEPHENSON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Kino, a tailor, of New
<lb/>ington Causeway—on Saturday, 16th February, the prisoner came and bought an overcoat for three guineas and ordered a suit—he gave in pay
<lb/>ment a sovereign and some gold franc pieces—a few days after I saw him again, and he gave me this cheque for 51
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he said he was going to Paris for a few days, and this cheque he had received from a party in the way of business; he would leave it with us and we had better send it through our bankers, and we could pay ourselves and give him the balance when he returned from France—the cheque was passed through</p>
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<p>our bankers and returned marked "N. S."—I afterwards received a letter from the Charing Cross Hotel—I did not send the cheque back—it was then in the hands of Detective Sergeant Moss—on 2nd March the prisoner called about the alteration of a coat, and he said he wanted to know about the cheque—I said we had not got to know the particulars about it, as the governor was away from home; when he returned we would let him know—he said he had received the cheque from a party with whom he had business; he thought it would be right, but was not certain—he said he had received a 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque from the same party; that it was not met exactly at the time, but it was ultimately met.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. He told me in the first instance that the reason he wanted to pay it through our bankers was because he did not know whether it would be right or not—he gave his name and address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-21" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-21" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-21" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-21" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY TAYLOR</persName> </hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN MOSS</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officers</hi>) and
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDNEY ROBERT SMITH</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">the Governor of the Jail at Newgate</hi>) repeated their former evidence.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-22" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-22" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-22" type="surname" value="CHABOT"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-22" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CHABOT</persName> </hi>. I am an expert in handwriting of many years' experience—I have been shown two letters admitted to he the prisoner's writing—in my opinion the address on this packet produced is in the same writing as those two letters.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I have differed from Mr. Nethercliff, another expert, as to handwriting, but very rarely—only three or four times in the course of my professional life—in those cases our opinions were not very strong on either side—they were founded on the best of our skill and under
<lb/>standing of the writing in question.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-23" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-23" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-23" type="surname" value="SAUNDERS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-23" type="given" value="WILLIAM SEDGWICK"/>WILLIAM SEDGWICK SAUNDERS</persName> </hi> repeated his former evidence.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. C. MATHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted there was no evidence to show that the forgery was committed in England, and therefore there was no jurisdiction to try the prisoner at this Court, there being no evidence of tampering with any of the notes on this side of the Channel</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">held that it was a question for the Jury</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-469-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>**—(
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-469-18780506 t18780506-469-punishment-1"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>470.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM PRICE</hi> (70)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-470-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-470-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-470-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to stealing two pieces of linen, the property of
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-25" type="surname" value="STORR"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-470-offence-1 t18780506-name-25"/>Edward Francis Storr</persName> and others, his masters.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-470-punishment-2" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-470-18780506 t18780506-470-punishment-2"/>Four Months' Imprisonment with suitable hard labour</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>471.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY COOPER</hi> (21)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-471-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-471-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, to burglary in the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-471-offence-1 t18780506-name-27"/>John Henry Pape</persName>, at
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<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-471-offence-1 t18780506-geo-1"/>Hackney</placeName>.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-471-punishment-3" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-471-18780506 t18780506-471-punishment-3"/>Four Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18780506-471-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: see original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>472.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWIN LUSON</hi> (21)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-472-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-472-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, to stealing six purses and a card case, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-472-offence-1 t18780506-name-29"/>Thomas Leach</persName>, and to having been convicted of felony in November, 1876, at Worship Street.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-472-punishment-4" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-472-18780506 t18780506-472-punishment-4"/>Six Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18780506-472-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-472-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: see original trial image.]</rs> And</p> </div1>
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<p>473.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS ABBOTT</hi>** (30)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-473-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, to burglary in the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-473-offence-1 t18780506-name-31"/>John Scott</persName>, at
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<interp inst="t18780506-geo-2" type="type" value="parish"/>
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<interp inst="t18780506-473-punishment-5" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-473-18780506 t18780506-473-punishment-5"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>..
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-474a-18780506 t18780506-474a-punishment-7"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18780506-474a-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: see original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>475.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES SMITH</hi> (39)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-35" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-35" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-35" type="given" value="EMILY JANE"/>EMILY JANE SMITH</persName> </hi>. I live at 23, Old Street, and help my father, a fruiterer—on 15th April, at 8.30 p.m., I served the prisoner with an ounce of cough drops, which came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I gave them to him in a paper bag with my father's name and address printed on it—he gave me a five-shilling piece, and I gave him a half-crown, a florin, and four pence—I put it in a cash box where there was no other crown—a policeman came about 20 minutes after the prisoner left, and I found it was bad and gave it to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-36" type="surname" value="BLACKBOROUGH"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-36" type="given" value="HENRY WILLIAM"/>HENRY WILLIAM BLACKBOROUGH</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Mr. Garnham, a draper, of 107, Oxford Street, which is about 250 yards from Mr. Smith's—on 15th April, about 9 p.m., I served the prisoner with a pair of men's socks, which came to 6 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a crown; I saw it was bad before I took it up, and asked him how he got it; he said "For a hard day's work in the docks"—my employer's wife gave him in custody as he still persisted it was good, I took the coin from his hand and asked him where he lived—he said "At Wapping"—I said "It is a long way to come from Wapping to Hoxton for a pair of socks."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I gave you the coin back, but I put in my mouth first and found it was bad—you did not go away—I said that I did not want to charge you, but my employer's wife gave you in charge—you stood at the door and said that it was not bad—you had plenty of opportunity of going away, but did not attempt to do so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-37" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-37" type="surname" value="PRICKETT"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-37" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP PRICKETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 359
<hi rend="italic">N</hi>). The last witness called me and gave the prisoner into my charge—I took him to the station, searched him, and found a bag of sweets with Mr. Smith's name and address on it—I went there and received this bad crown—I got the other crown from Mr. Blackborough—the prisoner said that he took the crown for a day's labour in the Docks at Wapping, but going to the Court next morning he said that he and another man found the two crowns in a piece of rag—no money was found on him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-38" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-38" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am in the employ of the Mint—these crowns are bad and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner in his defence stated that he found the two crowns pinned up in a rag, and did not know that they were bad, or he would not have stood arguing about them when he could easily have escaped. His statement before the Magis
<lb/>trate was to the same effect</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18780506-475-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>476.
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<interp inst="def1-476-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-476-18780506" type="age" value="21"/>
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<interp inst="def1-476-18780506" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM PERRY</hi> (21)</persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18780506-476-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-476-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-40" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-40" type="surname" value="YOUNG"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-40" type="given" value="CLARA"/>CLARA YOUNG</persName> </hi>. My brother is a tobacconist at 17, Howard Road—on 12th April I was staying with him and served the prisoner with a two
<lb/>penny cigar—he gave me a half-crown—I put it in the till and do not know whether it was good or bad—on the 20th the prisoner came again for a twopenny cigar, and put down a florin—I told him it was bad and took it to my brother, who gave him in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-41" type="surname" value="YOUNG"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-41" type="given" value="RICHARD CHARLES"/>RICHARD CHARLES YOUNG</persName> </hi>. On 12th April I was at the parlour door wiping my hands, when my sister served the prisoner—shortly afterwards I went to the till—there was only a half-crown there, and it was bad—I took it upstairs and put it in a box till I gave it to a constable—on the 20th my sister handed me a florin in the parlour—I went into the shop, recognised the prisoner, and told him that it was bad—he said if it was</p>
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<p>he did not know it—I said "You are the same man who came a week ago and gave me a bad half-crown"—he said that he was never in the shop before—I thought I had given him the change for the florin, and I said "If you give me 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. you can go"—he had not got 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. but he offered me a good half-crown—I did not take it, but gave him in charge with the florin and half-crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I offered you the half-crown for the florin—I know nothing about the other coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-42" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PETTINGALE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 479
<hi rend="italic">M</hi>). I took the prisoner on 20th April and told him it was for passing a bad florin and half-crown—he said that if he had passed bad money he had not done so knowingly—I found on him a half-crown, two sixpences, and 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I received these coins from Mr. Young.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-43" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-43" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both bad.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-476-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-476-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-476-18780506 t18780506-476-punishment-8"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def2-477-18780506" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN CLARKE</hi> (64)</persName> were indicted for
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Jones</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-46" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-46" type="surname" value="LEVER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-46" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY LEVER</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at Mr. Rogers's public-house, 49, Bryan
<lb/>ston Square—on 5th April between 3 and 4 o'clock I served Jones with twopennyworth of gin—he tendered a bad florin—I bent it, and he asked for it back, but I refused—I gave it to Hutchings.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-47" type="surname" value="SAUNDERS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-47" type="given" value="THOMAS CHARLES"/>THOMAS CHARLES SAUNDERS</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer, of 49, Bryanston Street—on 5th April I was in Mr. Rogers's public-house when Jones came in—there was a partition between Hun and me—Lever brought a florin to me and said "Look at this"—I found it was bad, and in consequence of what she said I followed the prisoner; he went through Old Quebec Street and Oxford Street to the Gloucester public-house at the corner of Park Street—he went in at one door and out at the other into Park Street, where Clarke joined him—I did not see where Clarke came from—they walked down Park Street together—I followed them about 200 yards and met Watts, I then got into his van and followed them to the end of Park Street—they were about to stop at a public-house, but looked round and recognised me—they passed the Pitt's Head and stopped—Jones then came back and went in, and Clarke went on—Watts went in before me—I went in, saw Jones there, and spoke to the landlord in Jones's hear
<lb/>ing, who then tried to get away—I stopped him and asked the landlord to test the florin he had taken, which he did—I asked Jones how many more he had got, as this was the second I had seen him utter—he resisted violently, but I detained him till a constable arrived—I afterwards found Clark in the Marquis of Granby, Brook Street, and gave him in custody—I told him I had followed him from the Coachmakers' Arms, and I had seen him tender a bad florin, and that Jones was in custody—he said that he knew nothing about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. I followed Jones from Mr. Rogers's public-house to the Gloucester, which is 150 or 200 yards—I do not think he saw me—I was perhaps 50 yards off—I stood down a mews, and he turned back and passed me within 20 yards, and I had a good view of his face-—in the Pitt's Head he wanted to know what business it was of mine.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-48" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-48" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-48" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PITWOOD</persName> </hi>. I keep the Pitt's Head, Little Stanhope Street—on 5th April about 4 p.m. I served Jones with a glass of ale, he put down a florin—Saunders came in and spoke to me—I kept the florin in my hand and gave Jones 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—the florin was bad—Jones drank the ale, and Saunders took him by the collar, and asked him how many more of those two-shilling pieces he had—Jones asked what he meant and took the coin from my hand, and offered me back the change—Saunders and I took the coin from him again; he struggled violently and tried to get away from us—his coat was torn in the struggle—I sent for a policeman and gave him in charge with the florin—I received another bad florin from Wyatt wrapped in two pieces of paper; brown paper outside—I gave it to the constable with the paper.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. Jones may have said that he did not know that the coin was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-49" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-49" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-49" type="surname" value="WATTS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-49" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WATTS</persName> </hi>. I am a carman, of 2, Morton Terrace, Pimlico—on 5th April I was driving up Oxford Street and met Saunders—I gave him a
<hi rend="italic">cast</hi> in my van, and we followed the prisoners, who were about 30 yards from us, walking and talking—they looked round once or twice—I found them at Pitt's Head Mews—I went in there after Jones, and Clark went on—I left Saunders in the court—I saw a coin on the counter and went out and said something to Saunders, who came into the public-house, and I left the van and followed on foot—I caught sight of Clark by the Marquis of Granby—he stood at a corner 5 or 10 minutes, and then went on—Mr. Wyatt's public-house is about 120 yards from the Pitt's Head—Saunders was outside with a constable when he came out, and was given in custody—I went into the Marquis of Granby and sat on a seat, and saw Clark sitting down—I did not see him pass any money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-50" type="surname" value="WARREN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-50" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WARREN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman C</hi> 315). On 5th April I was called to the Pitt's Head and took Jones—I found on him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver and 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—Pitwood gave me a bad florin—I gave it to the inspector at the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>. Every coin I found on Jones was good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-51" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-51" type="surname" value="HUTCHINGS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-51" type="given" value="NUNN"/>NUNN HUTCHINGS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman C</hi> 250). I was called to the Marquis of Granby, and took Clark in custody as he came out—I found on him at the station 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. good money, and these two pieces of paper—I received this florin from Lever, and this other wrapped in this paper, and this third florin from Pitwood.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-52" type="given" value="WILLIAM EWINGS"/>WILLIAM EWINGS JACKSON</persName> </hi>. I live with my parents at No 3, Little Stanhope Street—on 5th April, about 6.15, I picked up a bad florin on the steps of the Marquis of Granby wrapped up in these white and brown papers—I gave it to Mr. Wyatt.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-53" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-53" type="surname" value="WYATT"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-53" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID WYATT</persName> </hi>. I keep the Marquis of Granby at the comer of Brook Street—I do not remember seeing Clark, but at about 6 o'clock Jackson gave me a florin and these two pieces of paper—I handed them to Pit
<lb/>wood the same evening.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-54" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-54" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-54" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These florins are all bad, and from the same mould—it is very likely that the paper found on Clark and the paper in which the coin was wrapped have been parts of the same newspaper, judging by the type, and the paper is the same substance.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Clark's Defence</hi>. I met this man; we got into conversation, and, as we were both going to Piccadilly, we walked together, and he left me. I waited some time, and he did not come. I went and had some beer and the policeman took me.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-477-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">They were each charged with previous convictions at this Court; Jones of feloniously uttering, and Clark of unlawfully having in his possession counterfeit coin, to which they</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-477-18780506 t18780506-477-punishment-9"/>Seven Years' each in Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS STONE</hi> (18)</persName>,
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<interp inst="def2-478-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">STEPHEN KING</hi> (36)</persName>, and
<persName id="def3-478-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def3-478-18780506" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="def3-478-18780506" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH READ</hi> (19)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-478-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-478-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Feloniously having in their possession a mould for coining.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-58" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-58" type="surname" value="MUSGROVE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-58" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MUSGROVE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective H</hi>). On 5th April I went with Thick to 9, Henry Street, Stepney, about 9.30, and found the street door open—I knocked, Read opened it; I asked her if she lived there, she said "Yes"—I asked her if any one else lived there, she said "Yes, two others lives here"—I said "What have you got in the room?"—she said "I don't know, you had better look"—I did look, and in a small cupboard, unlocked, I found this ladle with white metal in it, two files with metal on them, a spoon, a small portion of a mould, which afterwards broke away in my hand, and some plaster-of-paris and sand—all those things are used in making counterfeit coin—I waited till 3 o'clock next morning—Stone came home about 1 o'clock; I knew him by the name of Morris—I was watching outside and followed him in—I asked him if he lived in that room, he said "Yes"—I showed him the things I found in the cupboard, and asked him who they belonged to—he said they did not belong to him—I asked what he had about him—he said "I suppose this is what you want", put his hand in his pocket, and took out seven shillings separately folded in thin paper—I asked him if he had any more about him—he said "No"—I put my hand into his trousers pocket, and among other money found this bad shilling—I said that I believed the shillings were made of the same metal that was in the ladle—I think he said mat he did not know—Read was in the room all the time—I took Stone to the station, leaving Thick in charge of the room and of Read—I afterwards went back to the house, and about 2.30 King knocked at the outside shutters and came in—I said "Good morning, King"—he said "Good morning"—I said "You know me?"—he said "Yes"—I said "Who rents this room?"—he said "I do, I pay the rent," and that he had been there since November—I asked him who those things in the cupboard belonged to—he said "They belong to me"—I said "I have just taken Stone to the station, I found eight bad shillings on him, I believe you have been making them here"—he said "Yes, it is no use telling you, for you know all about it"—I searched him, but found nothing—Read was there all the time, but I don't think she took any part in the conversation—when I knocked at the door I asked her if Mr. Hartley was there, alluding to the prisoner King—I said, "He is a one-armed man;" she said, "Yes"—I asked her if any
<lb/>body else lived there; she said, "Yes, my husband"—I asked her what her husband's name was; she said, "Morris;" and when Stone came home she said, "That is my husband," and that they had lived there a week—I took King and Read to the station—I locked up the room, and gave the landlady the key, taking the counterfeit coin with me—I went back on Sunday evening about 8.30, got the key from the landlady, and searched the room—we found a crack in the boards six or eight inches wide; I took up some more boards, and found some plaster-of-</p>
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<p>paris, and then the landlady put her hand under the flooring and found this double mould to make two shillings at once—the flooring had been broken previously, but it did not appear recent—there was a piece of cloth over the opening in the floor—I have seen King and Stone together once—Read told me that she was not married to Morris, but only lived with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Stone</hi>. You said, "I am a fool for going in. I saw you in the public-house, but I intended to come here and give King the tip"—you may have said, "If I had known those things were here I would not have come in."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by King</hi>. You said to me, "Whatever I get I must put up with."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-59" type="surname" value="THICK"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-59" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM THICK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective H</hi>). I went with Musgrove to the house—I have heard the evidence; it is correct—I took Read, and told her she would be charged with the others with having these implements in her possession—she said that she had nothing to do with it—nothing was found on her—I afterwards saw the landlady take the mould from under the boards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-60" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-60" type="surname" value="WILLIS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-60" type="given" value="REBECCA"/>REBECCA WILLIS</persName> </hi>. I live at 9, Henry Street, Stepney—I let my ground-floor front room to Mr. Hartley, the prisoner King—he came in on 7th November—he said that he was a ticket-writer—I did not see Stone till a month or six weeks after that, and I did not see Read till a week before her arrest—I have seen them all three coming backwards and forwards; they had a street-door key and a room-door key, and let themselves in and out—I was not aware of what they were doing, or they should not have stayed there—they always paid me with good money—when they left, the detec
<lb/>tive locked the door and gave me the key—I gave it to him again on Sunday, and he opened the door—nobody had been in the room in the mean time—I had kept the key in my pocket, and I had bolted the shutters inside while the detectives were in the room—I went into the room with them on Sunday when they found the mould under the floor—there was a small hole in the floor when the room was taken, and I nailed a piece of cloth over it—in the evening I found that the nails had been taken out and the cloth shoved on one side—Hartley sometimes paid the rent, and sometimes Stone—Read never paid me—there was a blind to the window, which was generally down even in the day-time—when the street door was shut they used to knock at the shutter if one of them was inside.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>. I did not know Read by any name—some of the prisoners were always there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Stone</hi>. You paid me the rent three or four times when King was away—the first time was only about a week or a fortnight before this—I never opened the door for you—when King was away Read said that he was in a little trouble, but she did not say why—I gave her sixpence because she said that she was dreadfully short.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I do not know how long King was away—I do not know whether Read slept there—there was a bed in the room—they used it as bedroom and sitting-room too.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-61" type="surname" value="MUSGROVE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-61" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MUSGROVE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). When I went in, the floorcloth had been removed and the floor was broken.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-62" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-62" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a double mould for two shillings of 1868 and 1869—here are eight bad shillings—three are out of the mould of</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187805060015"/>
<p>1868 and five from that of 1869—this ladle has metal in it—this file has metal in it as if it had been used for filing the
<hi rend="italic">gets</hi> off—this is plaster-of-Paris for making the moulds and this metal is very likely the same kind as the coins are made of—this black is used to put over the coins after they are made—it is then rubbed off.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Stone's Defence</hi>. When I lived at No. 9 I knew nothing about what was in the place. King gave me the shillings to take home in case he should spend them, and I took them believing them to be good money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">READ</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received a good character</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-478-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-478-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">STONE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-478-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-478-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-478-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.*—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-478-punishment-10" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-478-punishment-10" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-478-18780506 t18780506-478-punishment-10"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">KING</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-478-verdict-3" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-478-verdict-3" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-478-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. *—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-478-punishment-11" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-478-punishment-11" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-478-punishment-11" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-478-18780506 t18780506-478-punishment-11"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>479.
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<interp inst="def1-479-18780506" type="age" value="19"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH READ</hi> </persName> was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
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<interp inst="t18780506-479-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-479-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for having in her pos
<lb/>session eight counterfeit shillings,</rs> upon which
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">offered no evidence</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-479-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-479-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-479-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<p>480.
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<interp inst="def1-480-18780506" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM MURRAY</hi> (31)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-480-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-480-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-480-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing 42 1/2 yards of cloth of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-480-offence-1 t18780506-name-65"/>Alfred Hyman</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CUNNINGHAM</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-66" type="surname" value="STIMPSON"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-66" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL STIMPSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 471). I live at 2, Temple Lane, about a quarter of a mile from the prosceutor's shop—on 5th April, about 6.30 p.m., I was in my room on the ground floor—I saw the prisoner come in front of my window and tear this ticket off a roll of cloth and throw it into the road—I came out of my house, picked up the ticket, and pursued the prisoner—he was walking as fast as he could—I came up with him at the bottom of New Wharf, Whitefriars—I stopped him and asked where he got the roll of cloth from—he said he had had it given to him by a man in the street—I took him to the station—he gave no address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-67" type="surname" value="HYMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-67" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED HYMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a tailor, of 68, Fleet Street—this roll of cloth is mine and the ticket also—I did not miss it till the constable came—it had not been sold—it was standing just inside the doorway.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-480-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-480-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-480-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a previous conviction on let February</hi>, 1877.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-480-punishment-12" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-480-18780506 t18780506-480-punishment-12"/>Twelve Months* Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>481.
<persName id="def1-481-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-481-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-481-18780506" type="age" value="32"/>
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<interp inst="def1-481-18780506" type="given" value="DENNIS"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">DENNIS NEAL</hi> (32)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-481-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-481-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-481-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Robbery with violence on
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-69" type="surname" value="CALLAHAN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-69" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-481-offence-1 t18780506-name-69"/>James Callahan</persName> and stealing 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. A. B. KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-70" type="surname" value="CALLAHAN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-70" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CALLAHAN</persName> </hi>. I am a French polisher, and live in Marchmont Place—on Easter Tuesday I received 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for my wages, and in the evening I went to a beershop in Hunter Street—the prisoner was there with two others—I left that beershop and went to another—the prisoner and another accompanied me—I had never seen either of them before—I remained there till the house closed, about 12, about an hour—I had scarcely left the house, which is in North Crescent Mews, when the prisoner struck me—he was still in company with the other, but he was about a pace ahead of me—the prisoner struck me on the head and I fell—I halloed out and the people in the house came to my assistance—I gave the prisoner a beating and held him—when I left the beershop I bad five two-shilling pieces, four half-crowns, one shilling, sixpence, and</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187805060016"/>
<p>three-halfpence—the silver was loose in my trousers pocket—the copper was in my waistcoat pocket—I had been drinking fourpenny ale—I would have had more, but the landlord said, from the company that was there, he would not serve me—an inspector was immediately on the spot—when I came to my senses I found myself at the Hunter Street station, where the doctor attended me—my trousers were torn down to the knee and the pocket cut out—I saw the prisoner next morning at the police-court—I was placed by the side of him, and he said "Don't say anything against me; I have not got your money, but I know who has, and if you will not say anything against me I will get you your money"—but I would not take his word for that, and told the inspector what he had said.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I did not ask you to have a drop of beer—you sang a song—I was not knocked down by two or three people, nor did you say "Don't rob the man"—they did not give you a black eye and run away with your hat—I admit I had been drinking; the inspector detained me more for safety than anything—I did not see you with any weapon, but I felt a severe blow—it was a blow with some instrument, I could not say what.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-71" type="surname" value="CLIFFORD"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-71" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CLIFFORD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector E</hi>). About twenty-five minutes past 12 on the night in question I arrived at Crescent Mews and found the pro
<lb/>secutor on the ground bleeding from the head—I saw the prisoner there and took him into custody—I told him he would be charged with steal
<lb/>ing 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from the prosecutor and assaulting him—he said he had not done it—the prosecutor had told me the amount that was taken—he was not insensible, he was drunk; he was assisted to the station by a constable and some of his friends—he identified the prisoner at the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-481-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-481-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-481-punishment-13" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-481-punishment-13" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-481-18780506 t18780506-481-punishment-13"/>Twelve Months; Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>482.
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<interp inst="def1-482-18780506" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS DAVIS</hi> (59)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-482-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-482-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>, Unlawfully obtaining 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and other sums of
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-482-offence-1 t18780506-name-73"/>Thomas Okey</persName> by false pretences.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GILL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-74" type="surname" value="OKEY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-74" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS OKEY</persName> </hi>. I am a money lender, of 59, Bassett Street, Haverstock Bill—just previous to the 14th August a woman came to me—I after
<lb/>wards went to 47, Carlton Street, Kentish Town, and there saw some furniture and rent receipts—I saw the same woman there—the furniture corresponded with the inventory which I afterwards saw—at 6 o'clock that evening the woman came to my place with the prisoner—she said "I have brought my husband, Mr. Okey"—I said "Are you Mr. Henry Lewis?"—he said "I am; I have just left my workshop at Hampstead"—I said "How much money do you require?"—he said "15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—Mrs. Lewis said "I should like 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I want to go to Meeting's to procure silk with, in my husband's business as an upholsterer and French polisher"—she gave me this inventory, saying, "I have made out a correct inven
<lb/>tory as far as lay in my power"—I asked the prisoner if it was so—he said "Yes"—I asked him to sign it and he did so—this is his signature—he also signed this bill of sale and this declaration, stating that he had full power to assign the property at 47, Carlton Street, and that his lia
<lb/>bilities did not exceed 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I gave him 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in full—I believed him to be the owner of the property, or I should not have parted with the money—I gave him the money, and he handed it to the woman—on 20th November the prisoner came to me again with Henry Horne—Horne said "I have brought Mr. Lewis to be surety for</p>
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<p>me"—the prisoner again said that he was Henry Lewis, and he signed that name, of 47, Carlton Street, to this promissory note for 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—on 7th December I saw him again with Mrs. Lewis—she said "I want some more money, as my husband has on his books 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and upwards, which he cannot get in, and I must have more money to buy silk with "—the application was for a loan of 21
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cash and 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for expenses—he then signed this declaration to the same effect as the other—Mrs. Lewis said "The same inventory will do; strike out the date, as I want to go to Meeting's before the shop shuts"—I required that the prisoner himself should strike it out, and he erased "August 14th" and put in "7th December"—he also signed on the back of the bill of sale "Received, 7th December, 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., making, with 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for interest and expenses, 21
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. "—when I parted with that money I believed that he was Henry Lewis, of 47, Carlton Street—on 21st January, 1878, he came again with Mrs. Slous and signed this promissory note. (
<hi rend="italic">This was a joint and several promisory note by Mary Ann Sloue and Henry Lewis for</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">dated</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st January</hi>, 1878,
<hi rend="italic">to be repaid by weekly instalments of</hi> 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.) I believed when he signed that that he was Henry Lewis, of 47, Carlton Street—I would not have parted with any of my moneys upon that or any of these occasions had I known his proper name was Davis, and that he was not the occupier of 47, Carlton Street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I carry on business as Thomas Okey, trading as the National Reliance Advance Co.—there is a plate on the door with "The National Reliance Advance Co. "on it—that Co. is personified in myself—there is no sham in it, I am the Co. legitimately—the first money I lent was 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in cash—I gave that to the man, who handed it to the woman—I charged 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for interest and expenses—I asked her if she could pay 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the advance, and she said "Yes, payable at 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week in 21 weeks"—I charged 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. inquiry fee and 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the application form—I did that in each case—I went to Carlton Street and made inquiries as to who Mr. Lewis was—I found him to be a respectable man—I did not call at his shop in Hampstead—I have been paid 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of the 21
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., not more—there was a renewal of that loan—on both the trans
<lb/>actions I have been paid something like 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there is a balance of 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on that—I have been paid more than the principal without interest, in both cases—the weekly payments were continued up to the time Mrs. Lewis left her home; that would be about five months—Mr. Kisch the solicitor represented me before the Magistrate—I told him as much as I knew—I did not bring any proceeding to try and get my 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did that on principle—I did not say anything about Home or Mrs. Slous before the Magistrate—I also charged money for inquiry fees in those cases—they were paid by the female prisoner—I saw the prisoner on four occasions—he is an illiterate man; he writes very badly—it was Mrs. Lewis who came and spoke about borrowing the money—it was she who I saw at her house—it was not till the papers were to be signed that he was brought there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I did not take these proceedings for the purpose of re
<lb/>covering my money, it was on principle, as I have got between 500 and 600 customers, and it was done to deter others—I did not seek out Mrs. Lewis or the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-75" type="surname" value="LEWIS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-75" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LEWIS</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Upon this witness being called</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GILL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">objected to his being examined; he was the husband of Mrs. Lewis, who, although not now on her trial, the evidence he was about to give would bear directly on</hi> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">the charge against her hereafter to be tried. See Reg. v. Gleed</hi>, 1
<hi rend="italic">Russell on Crimes, p</hi>. 623.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that as the wife of the witness was not now upon her trial she was in no peril, and that, therefore, the evidence was admissible. It was necessary to negative authority to the prisoner to use the name of Henry Lewis, as in a case of forgery. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">was of opinion that as the wife was not now in peril the evidence of the witness was not incompetent</hi>.) On 14th August, 1877, I was living at 47, Carlton Street, Kentish Town—I have lived there many years and am living there now—my wife, Sarah Lewis, was living there—she has been my wife about 20 years—I am a cabinet-maker—I have a workshop at Hampstead and one at the bottom of my street—I did not give the prisoner any authority to sign my name to a bill of sale, or the promis
<lb/>sory notes, or to become surety for any person—I did not know of his coming to my house at all—I knew him years ago, it might be ten years, through a friend—he was no acquaintance of mine whatever—I knew him as a sponging sort of man—he has come to my house but it has been on some begging sort of affair, to sell some trifling thing that he had turned in his trade—that is all I have known of him—I never saw him at work—I understood he was an ivory turner—I knew nothing of any moneys being obtained from Mr. Okey—the whole of the furniture in the house was mine except some belonging to a lodger, Mrs. Jones—I did not know that the furniture had had an inventory made of it and signed by the prisoner, or of its being put into a bill of sale—I gave no authority for it and had no money from it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I am a jobbing cabinet-maker—I sometimes go into the country to execute jobs—about three years ago I was in Lancashire for three weeks—since then I have not been away from my home two days at a time—I was not away in August last year.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-76" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-76" type="surname" value="SLOUS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-76" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN SLOUS</persName> </hi>. I live at 31, Dickenson Street, Kentish Town, and am a dress and mantle maker—previous to borrowing money from Mr. Okey I never saw him—Mrs. Lewis came to me and told me that she would fetch Mr. Lewis from Tottenham Court Road—she brought the prisoner and said in his hearing "That is my husband"—he said nothing—it was in that way he became surety for my loan—I believed he was really Mr. Lewis, of 47, Carlton Street—I had never seen the real Mr. Lewis.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The loan was 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I was charged 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for interest—I repaid it weekly with Mrs. Lewis—she was to pay 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week and I half-a-crown—we went on paying until there was 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. paid off the money, when Mrs. Lewis absconded—it has all been paid, for the whole of my home was taken.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. The loan was partly for the benefit of Mrs. Lewis—she had 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and I had 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-77" type="surname" value="HORNE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-77" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HORNE</persName> </hi>. I lodge at 47, Carlton Street, Kentish Town—I went to Mr. Okey to borrow money about 20th November—this is my signa
<lb/>ture—I only knew the prisoner by seeing him once or twice at 47, Carlton Street—I heard that his name was Davis—I spoke to him in that name—I knew he was not Lewis—I did not know that he was going to sign the name of Lewis till it was done—I did not know what he was going; to sign—I had the money from Mr. Okey—I had 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the first place—I am repaying it still—I have no complaint to make against Mr. Okey.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-78" type="surname" value="WEST"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-78" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID WEST</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 160). On 13th March, I took the prisoner into custody on a warrant—he said "There are others in it, and I should</p>
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<p>not have done it if it had not been for the woman"—I asked him if he knew where she was—he said "No"—I did not find her till 25th March, when I apprehended her.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-482-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-482-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>. </rs>
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<interp inst="t18780506-482-punishment-14" type="punishmentCategory" value="noPunish"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-482-punishment-14" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="sentenceRespited"/>
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy, considering that he had been led into it by the woman.—Judgment Respited</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>483.
<persName id="def1-483-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-483-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-483-18780506" type="age" value="29"/>
<interp inst="def1-483-18780506" type="surname" value="WOOD"/>
<interp inst="def1-483-18780506" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE WOOD</hi> (29)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-483-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-483-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-483-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Unlawfully attempting to obtain money by false pretences.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-80" type="surname" value="EVANS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-80" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT EVANS</persName> </hi>. I live at 169, West Street, Sheffield—on 3rd April I received this letter—(
<hi rend="italic">This was dated</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">nd April</hi>, 1878,
<hi rend="italic">contained a printed heading of "Crown Hotel, George Wood, Proprietor</hi>, 37,
<hi rend="italic">Middlesex Street, London," and stated that a gentleman had died suddenly at the hotel, and if the witness would forward</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">the amount of his bill, within a week, the gentleman's two boxes left unclaimed would be sent to him</hi>)—in consequence of receiving that I went to London and made inquiries, and communi
<lb/>cated with the police the same evening—on 4th and 5th of April I went with an officer to 37, Middlesex Street—on the 5th I saw the landlady and asked for Mr. George Wood—on seeing Wood I told him I was Mr. Evans, of Sheffield, and wished to speak to him about some boxes he had written to me about—he led the way upstairs to a bedroom, and I followed—I showed him his writing, and said I was prepared to pay him a sovereign then, and the remainder on the receipt of the boxes—I offered him the sovereign—I had arranged with the police to do so—he said he would take the whole amount if I would meet him at the Horse Shoe public-house at 2 o'clock—I asked him to come and have some drink—a detective was waiting for him, who took him into custody—we afterwards searched the room—I charged the prisoner with attempting to obtain 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from me by false pretences.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-81" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-81" type="surname" value="BARDEN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-81" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH BARDEN</persName> </hi>. I live at Thurlston in Yorkshire—I received this letter, dated 2nd April—(
<hi rend="italic">This was similar to the other letter, the amount asked for being</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.)—I sent a Post-office order for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>, 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and my son wrote a letter—I never received the chests.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-82" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-82" type="surname" value="BAILEY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-82" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BAILEY</persName> </hi>. I am a farmer at Gildersham, near Leeds—I received this letter—(
<hi rend="italic">This was similar letter to the others, asking for</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.)—I wrote for particulars to 37, Middlesex Street, and received this reply—(
<hi rend="italic">This stated: "We can give no more particulars, perhaps you may find them in the other chest</hi>")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-83" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-83" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-83" type="surname" value="BURGOYNE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-83" type="given" value="THOMAS HENRY"/>THOMAS HENRY BURGOYNE</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer at Burden Moor, near Skipton, in Yorkshire—on 19th March last I saw an advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Leeds Mercury</hi> of a book of free and assisted passages to Australia, A. Gray, agent—I wrote to a Mr. Gray, of 59, Stanhope Street, London, for the book, and enclosed 13 stamps, the amount stated in the adver
<lb/>tisement, believing that I should get the book for the stamps.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-84" type="surname" value="SWAIN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-84" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SWAIN</persName> </hi>. I live at Richmond, in Yorkshire—in March last I saw an advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Leeds Mercury</hi>, in consequence of which I wrote this letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) and sent it to J. G. Wood, 59, Stanhope Street, London, and enclosed thirteen stamps. expecting to get a book as advertised, giving me every information about New South Wales.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-85" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-85" type="surname" value="WOOLRIDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-85" type="given" value="SARAH ANN"/>SARAH ANN WOOLRIDGE</persName> </hi>. I live at 59, Stanhope Street, Euston Road—the prisoner took a room in my house in March last, paying 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—he remained four weeks and left on 2nd April—letters came for the prisoner in the name of Gray, sometimes three in a day—he said he was</p>
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<p>an engineer out of employment—I saw no business carried on—there were several papers there relating to emigration.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. The detective took away the books and papers that you left.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-86" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-86" type="surname" value="FULLER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-86" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA FULLER</persName> </hi>. I live at 37, Middlesex Street, Somers Town—the prisoner took a first-floor back room in my house on Monday, 1st April, and came on the 2nd—the rent was 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—he remained till 5th April, when he was taken into custody—my house has only four rooms—no light porter is kept—I know nothing of any person having died and left two boxes—the prisoner received about twelve letters—I called his attention to the words "Crown Hotel" on the letters, when I asked him if he was comfortable on the Thursday—he said it was a mistake, which occurred through his having advertised for a situation.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-87" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-87" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-87" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-87" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES TAYLOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Y</hi>). I apprehended the prisoner on the 5th April—I was with Mr. Evans—I said "You are Mr. Wood," he said "Yes"—I said to Mr. Evans "Did you pay him any money?"—Mr. Evans said "No; he said he would meet me at the Horse-Shoe at 2 o'clock to-day to receive it"—I then told the prisoner I was a detective officer and wished to speak to him in his rooms—I then went with him to an upstairs back bedroom and charged him with attempting to obtain 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mr. Evans—I showed him the letter to Mr. Evans—he handed me three other letters written under the same form of heading—I asked him if he had any more; he said "I had fifty printed and sent out about thirty; I only stay till the end of the week, when I expect the answers, and I shall be gone"—I said "These are answers to the letters you sent out?"—he said "Yes"—I said "Where are the other forms?" he said "I have destroyed them; I threw them over the Embankment"—I searched him and found on him some emigration papers—I asked him to what they related—he said "Oh, that is an old affair of mine," and that he was hard up at the time or he would not have done it—I also found on him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and odd—a Post-office order was afterwards brought to the police-court—fourteen or fifteen other letters were afterwards received from various parts of Yorkshire.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I was at an hotel, but I was out of business and had to take lodgings. I was arrested two weeks after I advertised—how could I have had the letters?</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-483-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-483-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-483-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-483-punishment-15" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-483-punishment-15" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-483-punishment-15" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-483-18780506 t18780506-483-punishment-15"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday May</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<p>484.
<persName id="def1-484-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-484-18780506" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="def1-484-18780506" type="given" value="ALICE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ALICE BARTLETT</hi> (22)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-484-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-484-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-484-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-89" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-89" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA CLARK</persName> </hi>. I assist my brother-in-law at the Bricklayers' Arms, Hannibal Road—on 10th April, shortly after 10 o'clock, I served the prisoner with a glass of ale—she tendered a half-crown—I asked her if she was aware that it was bad—she said "No." and dropped it on the counter—she said that she took it at a shop in Whitechapel Road, where she worked—she afterwards said that she was an unfortunate woman, and a gentleman gave it to her in Mile End Road—I gave her in custody with the coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-90" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-90" type="surname" value="HUMPHREYS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-90" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HUMPHREYS</persName> </hi>. I am a purveyor of cat's and dog's meat at 10, Diamond Street, Stepney Green—on 10th April, about 9.50, the</p>
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<p>prisoner came to my window and asked me for a pennyworth of cat's meat—she gave me a half-crown; I gave her 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers, and she left—I gave the half-crown to my wife, who said that it was bad—I communicated with the police, and saw the prisoner next morning at the station with four or five others, and picked her out—I gave the half-crown to the constable—I did not see any one with the prisoner; it was raising very hard.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-91" type="surname" value="FEELING"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-91" type="given" value="HUGH"/>HUGH FEELING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 185). I was called to the Bricklayers' Arms, and the prisoner was given into my custody—she said that she did not know that the half-crown was bad; she received it where she worked in Whitechapel Road—afterwards she said that she was unfortunate, and a young man gave it to her in Mile End Road—I had said nothing to her in the meantime—the female searcher found 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on her—I received a bad half-crown from Emma Clark and another from Humphreys.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-92" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-92" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate was that a young man gave her the coin to get the cat's meat, and she gave him the change, and then he sent her into the public-house, where she was given in custody, but was not aware that the coins were bad</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18780506-484-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-484-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-484-punishment-16" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-484-18780506 t18780506-484-punishment-16"/>Six Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE LOONEY</hi> (20)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-485-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LLOYD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-94" type="surname" value="HARLE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-94" type="given" value="THOMAS WILLLAM"/>THOMAS WILLLAM HARLE</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, of 23, Essex Street, Isling
<lb/>ton—on 3rd April, about 10 o'clock, I served the prisoner with a penny
<lb/>worth of antibilious pills; he offered me a shilling—I saw at once that it was bad, and told him so; he said that he was not aware of it—I cautioned him that it might be worse for him if he did not give his right name and address—he gave his name George Smith, Norfolk Place, New North Road, and said that he assisted his brother in selling costermongers' goods—a constable then arrived, and the prisoner gave him another name, but it was not George Looney—I gave the shilling to the con
<lb/>stable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-95" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-95" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-95" type="surname" value="WELDON"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-95" type="given" value="PATRICK"/>PATRICK WELDON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N</hi> 596). The prisoner was given into my custody on 3rd April with this coin—he said that he did not know it was bad; he got it at the Angel for carrying a portmanteau—the shop is about a quarter of a mile from the Angel—he gave his name George Looney; he gave no other name in my hearing—he had no money on him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-96" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-96" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-96" type="surname" value="COOK"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-96" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE COOK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 109
<hi rend="italic">N</hi>). I was called and took the prisoner on 27th February, between 3 and 4 p.m., at the Bird Cage, in Columbia Road—the barman Timms said that he did not want him there passing any more bad money, as he tendered a bad shilling last week—I have tried to find Timms but am unable—the prisoner denied having been in the house before—Timms handed me a shilling—the prisoner said "I did not know it was bad, I got it from a man at Billingsgate; you had better take my name and address, policeman, and let me go"—he gave his name
<hi rend="italic">John</hi> Looney, 3, Devonshire Buildings, Worship Street, Finsbury—he was taken to Worship Street Police Court, remanded till 5th March, and discharged—Mrs. Howard had identified him, but she was not examined before the Magistrate—I don't know why—I received this bad florin from Mr. Howard.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-97" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-97" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-97" type="surname" value="HOWARD"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-97" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH HOWARD</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a provision shop at Thrawl</p>
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<p>Street, Spitalfields—at the end of January or the beginning of February the prisoner came and asked for a pennyworth of cheese and a half
<lb/>pennyworth of bread—I served him—he tendered a florin—I gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—he did not stop to eat the bread and cheese, and as soon as he got to the door I saw him run, which aroused my suspicion—I had tried the coin before he went out, and he said "Don't you like the look of it? I wish I had a sackful of them"—I afterwards found it was bad—I put it in my pocket and gave it to my husband, who put it away directly—I saw it given to the constable—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is it—on 5th March a constable came for me and took me to Worship Street Police Court, where I recognised the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-98" type="surname" value="HOWARD"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-98" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT HOWARD</persName> </hi>. I am the husband of the last witness—at the latter end of January or the beginning of February she gave me a bad florin—I kept it till last week—I locked it in my desk and then gave it to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-99" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-99" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This florin and these two shillings are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I received the florin where I was working carrying fish, and the shilling for carrying a gentleman's portmanteau. If I was guilty I could have run away.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-485-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-485-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of uttering the shilling to T. W. Harle.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-485-punishment-17" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-485-punishment-17" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-485-punishment-17" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-485-18780506 t18780506-485-punishment-17"/> Nine Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>486.
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<interp inst="def1-486-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-486-18780506" type="age" value="16"/>
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<interp inst="def1-486-18780506" type="given" value="HENRY"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY CLARK</hi> (16)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-486-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-486-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Feloniously assaulting
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-486-offence-1 t18780506-name-101"/>Frederick Allen</persName> with intent to rob him.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TAMPLIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. C. MATHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-102" type="surname" value="ALLEN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-102" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK ALLEN</persName> </hi>. I am a hairdresser, of 4, Cow Cross Street—on 16th April, about 12.45 a.m., I was in the Strand going home and a drunken woman asked me to give her some soda-water, which I refused, and walked on—I saw the prisoner standing at the corner of Surrey Street—he asked me why I did not do so—I said that the woman had nothing to do with me—he called out to two others and then threw me down, made a pluck at my chain, and kicked me on my head and eye—my watch was pinned to my waistcoat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The woman fell up against me and I pushed her off—I was quite sober—I was not excited till I was kicked on the head.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-103" type="surname" value="RUSSELL"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-103" type="given" value="HENRY THOMAS"/>HENRY THOMAS RUSSELL</persName> </hi>. I am a Hansom cab driver, No. 9918—on 16th April, about 12.45 a.m., I was with my cab in the Strand and saw Allen on the pavement—a woman was there, who looked as if she had had a little drop too much drink—the first words I heard were "I cannot get a bottle of soda-water"—the prisoner came across the road and said "You are trying to take liberties with the lady because she has had a glass to drink," and tripped him up from behind by kicking his feet, and he kicked him as he fell—I saw nothing improper—she was dressed respectably—I saw a scuffle going on, and he got up and the prisoner tripped him up in the same way a second time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not see the woman fall against the prosecutor, or see him push her off, nor did I see the prisoner lay hold of the watch as I was on my Hansom.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-104" type="surname" value="DONELLY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-104" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DONELLY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 47). I was on duty and Allen com
<lb/>plained to me that the prisoner had assaulted him, knocked him down, and kicked him on his eye—he had a very severe bruise—I took the prisoner for the assault, but at the station he was charged with assault with intent to rob—Allen was perfectly sober but very much excited.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. While Allen was telling me the charge the prisoner stood on the opposite side of the street and remained there till I took him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner received a good character</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-486-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>487.
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<interp inst="def1-487-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JEREMIAH HARRINGTON</hi> (19)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-487-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-487-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-487-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Feloniously, with other per
<lb/>sons, assaulting
<persName id="t18780506-name-106" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-106" type="surname" value="HIGH"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-106" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-487-offence-1 t18780506-name-106"/>Thomas High</persName>, with intent to rob him.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TAMPLIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-107" type="surname" value="HIGH"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-107" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS HIGH</persName> </hi>. I am an auxiliary letter-carrier—on Sunday, 11th April, about 11.30 p.m., I was in York Street, Westminster—I was not quite sober, but I perfectly knew what I was doing—the prisoner knocked me down; two more men were with him—I swear to the prisoner, I saw him when he was on top of me, and if it had not been for the policeman I should have been killed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I am sure the prisoner is the man—I had been with some friends at the West End—I had had some whisky and some ale, but not more than I could do with—I was not quite sober—I told the Magistrate that the prisoner and another man got me into a court and began striking me—I was knocked down before I got into the court—I have not been having ale to-day—I do not remember saying "They got me into the court"—I did not feel the prisoner put his hand into my pocket, but I heard the policeman say at the police-court that he saw him do so—it was lamp-light—I cannot remember whether I said at the police-court that it was the prisoner and another man or two other men—the policeman and I have been together ever since I have been here, and I have been talking to him about the case, but he did not say anything about there being two men instead of three.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I am not very much acquainted with Courts of Justice—I felt great pain in my side.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-108" type="surname" value="BROCSKING"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-108" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROCSKING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 264). On Sunday night, 7th April, I was on duty at Smith's Rents, York Street, Westminster, and saw High at 11.45—the prisoner and two other men were there, and the prisoner got hold of High, dragged him down the Rents, and threw him down—I saw the prisoner put his hand into High's pocket—the shortest of the three men sang out "
<hi rend="italic">Cheese</hi> it"—that is a slang term, meaning that some one is coming and to stop what they are doing and run away—the prisoner ran, trying to get into the dark, and met me; I jumped out of the dark and took him back to High—I held him with one hand and helped High up with the other; his hand was cut very much—the prisoner threw something away—I asked him what it was—he said "A penny"—I said "All right, I shall find it directly"—I afterwards found this knife (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) on the lower walk, where there are some little railings—High said that it was not his knife—I have not seen the other men since—High was under the influence of drink, but was not drunk—he walked to the station after me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. At the police-court High said that it was the prisoner and two other men—I swear that—the two men in the court got away—the prisoner could see me if he looked that way when he ran against me, as there was a lamp—I could see very well, and saw the prisoner put his hand in the prosecutor's outside coat pocket—High said at the police-court that he could not tell whether the prisoner put his hand in his pocket or not</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. If the words "and another man" appear in the deposi
<lb/>tions it is a mistake for "two other men."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-487-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-487-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-487-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-487-punishment-18" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-487-punishment-18" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-487-18780506 t18780506-487-punishment-18"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>488.
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<interp inst="def1-488-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="def1-488-18780506" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM HARON</hi> (20)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-488-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-488-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-488-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Unlawfully attempting to steal a watch from
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-110" type="given" value="HEINRICH"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-488-offence-1 t18780506-name-110"/>Heinrich Steitz</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOUGLAS METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-111" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-111" type="given" value="HEINRICH"/>HEINRICH STEITZ</persName> </hi>. I am the beadle of the German Church, and live at 1, Hooper Square—on 5th April, about 5.30 p.m., I was outside Christ's Hospital, looking through the railings, felt a hand in my pocket, and looked round and my watch was not there—I found it hanging down and saw the prisoner close to me; he ran away—I afterwards met a constable with the prisoner and charged him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I swear that you are the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-112" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL DIXON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 278). I was on duty, received a com
<lb/>munication, and saw the prisoner running down Rose Street, just by New
<lb/>gate Street—I stopped him in Christ's Church Passage, close to Christ's Hospital, took him back to Rose Street and met Steitz, who at once said "That is the man who attempted to steal my watch," and gave him in charge—he gave his correct address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate</hi>. "I own I did it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. The prosecutor could not identify me when I was given in charge, but he has been put up to say so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-488-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-488-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.*—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-488-punishment-19" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-488-punishment-19" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-488-18780506 t18780506-488-punishment-19"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq</hi>.</p>
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<p>489.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JANE LAWRY</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-489-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="assault"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-489-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-489-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-489-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to unlawfully assaulting and abandoning her child.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-489-punishment-20" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-489-punishment-20" type="punishmentCategory" value="noPunish"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-489-18780506 t18780506-489-punishment-20"/>Judgment Respited</rs> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">See Half-yearly Index</hi>.)</p> </div1>
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<p>490.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE MARTIN</hi> (57)</persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18780506-geo-3" type="type" value="site"/>
<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-490-offence-1 t18780506-geo-3"/>Bow Street Police Court</placeName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BALLANTYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-115" type="surname" value="PARKER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-115" type="given" value="CHARLES ABRAHAM"/>CHARLES ABRAHAM PARKER</persName> </hi>. I live in Bartholomew Road, Kentish Town—I have no business—my wife has private property—I have known the prisoner seven or eight years—he is a money lender—I have had many money transactions with him—on 20th August, 1875, I was given into custody by a lawyer's clerk—the charge came before Mr. Vaughan—a remand was granted for a week, and the case proceeded on the 27th, and was withdrawn—I attended and was represented by Mr. George Lewis, jun., and a Mr. Allingham prosecuted—I met the prisoner on 18th March, at Messrs. Digby's, 35, Lincoln's Inn Fields, the solicitors acting generally for my wife and me—we talked about the Grand National race—Mr. Carr, the managing clerk, had to pay the prisoner some money—the prisoner said he could not take interest, but would further advance 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Carr said the prisoner had better back "Jackal" sfor 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the prisoner said "I have left off" backing horses, I am not going west, I am going into the City; if you like to risk a telegram I will send one to Atkins "—I did not then know who Atkins was—I know now that I had seen Atkins once before that—he is the manager to the Mischief Tavern</p>
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<p>—I said I would put the matter beyond a doubt, and would ask Messrs. Digby's permission to allow the answer to the telegram to be sent there—I did so, and then left the office, leaving the prisoner and Carr there—I afterwards went to a public house near the Bankruptcy Court, Portugal Street—the prisoner and a few others were there, backing horses—we discussed about the winner—from there I went to the Napier Hotel, in Holborn, with the prisoner—a Mr. Makins was in the bar—I, the prisoner, and Makings, went to the telegraph office at the corner of Gray's Inn Road, and the prisoner dictated a telegram and I wrote it—it was sent—I and the prisoner then went to Mr. Hooper's, the prisoner's solicitor, 35, Newgate Street, about 12.30—I met a Mr. Lee there, a solicitor, and some others—we went across to the Seven Stars—I there said to Mr. Hooper, Mr. Potts, the landlord, and others, "I have sent a telegram to back 'Jackal' for 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—they asked if we thought he was likely to win—I, Mr. Hooper, and Mr. Lee, then went to a betting club in the Strand—the prisoner had then left—when we were discussing the merits of Jackal Mr. Hooper said that he should back the horse for two sovereigns—Jackal did not win—Atkins made no demand for the 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I occupied the same premises both before and after March, and in May I was in treaty with the prisoner to advance money with regard to my wife's pro
<lb/>perty, and I had an appointment for me and my wife to meet the prisoner to execute a deed at Messrs. Digby's, at 11 o'clock one day in May—Mr. O'Brien, the prisoner's solicitor, went with us—the prisoner was to meet us there—a conversation took place with respect to the deed with Mr. Digby, in consequence of which I, my wife, and O'Brien left the office—on coming away we met the prisoner—he apologised to Mrs. Parker for being late—Mr. O'Brien said "No matter, Mr. Martin, Mr. Digby will not allow Mrs. Parker to sign the deed"—the prisoner flew in a great rage and said "By God, Mrs. Parker, if yon do not sign that deed I will charge your husband with having given a false name to a telegram, and that will give him seven years—Mrs. Parker said "You may give him 20 if you like, I will not sign that deed"—we then left—I met the prisoner frequently between that interview and when I was taken in custody—he said "There will be a warrant against you one of these fine days"—between 5th July and 20th August I lived at the Hermitage, Epsom—during the remand, when I was on bail, I did not see the prisoner—Chancery proceedings have been taken with respect to the deed, and those proceedings were decided at the beginning of the year—the prisoner swore "I never authorised or requested him," meaning myself, "to send the before-mentioned telegram"—that was false—this was also false, "I never authorised him to use my name for that or any purpose"—I appeared against the prisoner for perjury at the commencement of this year.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I was liable to the prisoner for the bet on "Jackal"—I stood to win or lose—I lost—I paid the following day or the day after—I sent Mr. Carr to pay Atkins—I did not telegraph in my own name because I did not know Atkins—when I laid the information I swore I did not know Atkins by name or sight—I had seen him once, but at that time I thought I had not—I did not owe him 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I will not swear Atkins had not a dishonoured cheque of mine; I was told he had—I was never asked to pay it—I do not know that it was dishonoured; it might be, I cannot say—that was not the reason I did not put my own name</p>
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<p>on the telegram—I gave Atkins a cheque for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the August Bank Holiday in 1874—I had an account at the London and County Bank, Holborn branch, at the time I gave the cheque—I do not believe it was paid—the account might not have been sufficient to meet it—I forget all about it and all about the circumstances of meeting Mr. Atkins; I only saw him for about five minutes in a public-house next to the Beaufort Club—I did not know Atkins's address till the prisoner dictated it, and I believed I was a perfect stranger—I was a civil engineer 30 years ago under Robert Stephenson—since that time I have lived upon my private means, not by attending races—I have not been on a racecourse 10 times in the last seven years—Makins, I believe, used to keep the St. John of Jerusalem, Clerkenwell—it was seven years ago—I was in his house twice—I was not intimate with him—I do not know whether it was a sporting house—the bet was not compromised to my knowledge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. It was through the prisoner's introduction that I saw Atkins.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-116" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-116" type="surname" value="PARKER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-116" type="given" value="FRANCES WEBB"/>FRANCES WEBB PARKER</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—in May, 1875, I went to Messrs. Digby's office to execute a deed—Mr. O'Brien was there before me—my husband came afterwards—in consequence of what passed between me and Messrs. Digby I did not sign the deed—after leaving we met the prisoner in Lincoln's Inn Fields—he said "I must apologise, Mrs. Parker, for being late"—Mr. O'Brien said "Oh, you need not apologise, Messrs. Digby would not let Mrs. Parker sign"—the prisoner said "Never mind, if Mrs. Parker will sign"—I said "I shall not sign"—he said "If you do not sign, by God, I will give your husband seven years for forging my name to a telegram"—I said "You may give him 20 if you like, I shall not sign"—I saw the prisoner several times between May and August—either the prisoner or Hooper said it would be bad for Mr. Parker if I did not sign, as they would prosecute him for forging the prisoner's name to a telegram—after my husband was arrested I saw the prisoner, and also Mr. Hooper, in the prisoner's presence—on 27th August I went to Mr. Hooper's office—the prisoner there said if I did not sign the deed he could not assist me; and Mr. Hooper produced the deed with some erasures and said it was altered; and as the time of the remand was running out I signed, and three minutes afterwards the prisoner went to Bow Street, and at 12 o'clock the charge was withdrawn and my husband was discharged—proceedings have been taken in Chancery, and the Master of the Rolls gave a decision on 14th February—my husband took out a summons a mouth before that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. My husband commenced proceedings for perjury about October last, and commenced the Chancery in January last.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-117" type="surname" value="MAKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-117" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MAKINS</persName> </hi>. I was formerly a licensed victualler—I am now in no business—I live in Bouverie Street—I know Charles Abraham Parker and the prisoner—I was not at the Napier Hotel in Holborn in March, 1875, on the day of the Grand National—I made a mistake, I was in the infirmary then—the telegram sent off was in 1874—I went into the in
<lb/>firmary on 4th January and came out the third week in April, 1875—I never heard of a horse called Jackal till I was told of him—Tomahawk was the horse I heard of—I went with the prisoner and Mr. Parker several times, but not in 1875, nor when the Grand National was run—I swore before the Magistrate that I did, but I made a mistake—I thought</p>
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<p>of Tomahawk—I believe I gave the evidence that you have read in my depositions; it is not true—I could not be sure, I was in the infirmary—I have not seen the prisoner to speak to—I swore an information before Mr. Vaughan and a summons was granted against the prisoner for forgery. (
<hi rend="italic">The deposition being read stated, that "Makins was well aware that his state
<lb/>ments respecting the telegram were false, and that he had therefore committed perjury</hi>.") That has been written since, on my Bible oath—that is my signature—I referred to Tomahawk—I have not been offered any money—I told the prisoner what I was coming here for when I found out where I was—I told Mr. Hooper's clerk, (
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">here withdrew from the Prosecution</hi>.)
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<interp inst="t18780506-490-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>491.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALFRED THORNTON</hi> (44)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-491-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-491-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-491-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Being found by night with house
<lb/>breaking implements in his possession without lawful excuse.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBERT WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-119" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-119" type="surname" value="GOWER"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-119" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE GOWER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 238
<hi rend="italic">H</hi>). On the evening of 16th April I was in Bethnal Green Road about 2.15—I saw three men standing together—the prisoner was one—I concealed myself in a doorway—they went down Church Read—I heard a breaking of glass—I crossed the road and met the prisoner, buttoning up his coat—I stopped him and asked what was the matter, he said "Nothing"—I asked him what he had under his clothes, he said "Nothing"—I opened his coat and took this
<hi rend="italic">jemmy</hi> from under his left arm—another constable came up—I took the prisoner back to the house and found a ground-floor window broken, a small pane, about ten feet from the pavement—I took the prisoner to the station—he was examined—I found these five keys, this knife, and a gouge on him—I have accidentally lost the gouge—the prisoner said I made a mistake.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not see the other two men afterwards—I lost sight of them in about a minute—the keys were separate—I have corded them together—they are ordinary keys—the prisoner did not say that he heard the breaking of a window and that he stumbled and picked up the piece of iron in the road.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-491-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>492.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK RATCLIFFE</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-492-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-492-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Feloniously cutting and wound
<lb/>ing
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-492-offence-1 t18780506-name-121"/>Edward Lusby</persName> on his head with intent to do him grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBERT WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-122" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-122" type="surname" value="LUSBY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-122" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD LUSBY</persName> </hi>. I am a grainer, of 117, Church Street, Edgware Road—on Saturday, 4th May, I was in Edgware Road with Cutts and Chapman, coining from Kilburn—we met the prisoner and two others—some fellows in front of us ran against them, and said something to them—they came against me, and the prisoner struck me in the head—I saw a knife in his hand—I felt the blood running down, and I saw the prisoner—I caught hold of one of the men, not the prisoner, and he got away—I went to the police doctor.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-123" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-123" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD CUTTS</persName> </hi>. I am an omnibus driver—on this night I was walking with the prosecutor about 12.45, coming from Kilburn—I saw a crowd, and stopped to see—I saw the prisoner and some men round him—we were pushed back all at once—one man said, "Come on, you b—, or I will rip you open"—I looked round and saw the prosecutor with his head hanging down—I said, "Come on"—I saw two men run away—one</p>
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<p>man struck me on the back of my head when I was looking at the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I saw no knife in your hand—I saw no blow struck—your friend picked up a parcel.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-124" type="surname" value="CHAPMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-124" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CHAPMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a horse-keeper, of Little North Street—I was with Lusby and Cutts—we met the prisoner and others in Edgware Road—I said, "Where are you going to?"—they used frightful language—Sheppard, another man in custody, hit Cutts on the top of his head with a stick—the prisoner said, "Come on, you b—, I've got something in my pocket that will settle some of you," and struck Lusby with this knife—he was going to do it a second time, but I stopped the blow—I saw Shepherd about to strike Cutts—that is all I know.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-125" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-125" type="surname" value="NOBLE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-125" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD NOBLE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman S</hi> 375). On this Saturday night I was in Edgware Road—Shepherd was given into my custody—half an hour afterwards I found this knife in the road—three hours afterwards I arrested the prisoner in Kilburn—I told him what he would be charged with—he denied using the knife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-126" type="surname" value="WESTMACOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-126" type="given" value="JOHN GUYS"/>JOHN GUYS WESTMACOTT</persName> </hi>. I am surgeon to the X Division of Police—on Sunday, 6th May, I was called to the station between 1 and 2 a.m.—I found the prosecutor had been bleeding very much; one handkerchief was saturated, and this one was round his head—I undid it, and examined a wound on his forehead—it was two inches long—I bound it up—I have not since examined it, as it is better as it is—a knife like this would produce such a wound—it cut through this hat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. "It ain't me that done it. I never had no knife in my hand at all."
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-492-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-492-punishment-21" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-492-punishment-21" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-492-punishment-21" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-492-18780506 t18780506-492-punishment-21"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18780506-493" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18780506"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-493" type="date" value="18780506"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18780506-493-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-493-18780506 t18780506-493-offence-1 t18780506-493-verdict-1"/>
<p>493.
<persName id="def1-493-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-493-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-493-18780506" type="age" value="20"/>
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<interp inst="def1-493-18780506" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES SHEPPARD</hi> (20)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-493-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-493-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-493-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Unlawfully assaulting
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-128" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-128" type="surname" value="CUTTS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-128" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-493-offence-1 t18780506-name-128"/>Edward Cutts</persName>, and occasioning him actual bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBERT WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-129" type="surname" value="CUTTS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-129" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD CUTTS</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN CHAPMAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">repeated their former evidence, Cutts adding</hi>, "I felt a blow on the hat—I
<hi rend="italic">see</hi> two running away—the prisoner had the stick,"
<hi rend="italic">and Chapman adding</hi>, "Sheppard struck Cutts with a walking-stick—I stopped him and pushed him against the railings—I had not been drinking."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>." I was going to get a letter with a
<hi rend="italic">chap</hi> who was kind enough to show me the way. I heard something about a bottle in a crowd, and I got shoved down, and then I was taken in custody for stabbing a man. I do not know any more about it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-493-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-493-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-493-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-493-punishment-22" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-493-punishment-22" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-493-punishment-22" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-493-18780506 t18780506-493-punishment-22"/>Four Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18780506-494" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18780506"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-494" type="date" value="18780506"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18780506-494-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-494-18780506 t18780506-494-offence-1 t18780506-494-verdict-1"/>
<p>494.
<persName id="def1-494-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-494-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-494-18780506" type="age" value="32"/>
<interp inst="def1-494-18780506" type="surname" value="KINLIN"/>
<interp inst="def1-494-18780506" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN KINLIN</hi> (32)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-494-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-494-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-494-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing a watch and chain, the property of
<persName id="t18780506-name-131" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-131" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-131" type="given" value="HENRY"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-494-offence-1 t18780506-name-131"/>Henry Williams</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. R. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-132" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-132" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. I am a mariner, and now live at the Sailors' Home—I have a second mate's certificate—I was paid off at Marseilles and came through Paris to London—on 1st May I met the prisoner in the Minories in the evening—I remained with him some time and drank with him—we started for the Haymarket but stopped to have another drink—about 11.45 p.m. we were in a public-house—I then had my watch and chain, which are worth 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the prisoner asked me to put the watch in my trousers pocket—I did so, and then took it out and put it in my</p>
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<p>waistcoat pocket—I said "You look like a respectable man and won't do me any injury"—he snatched my watch and chain from me and ran away—I did not give it to him—I next saw him in custody with the watch and chain in his hand—I charged him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. I told you I had 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and would treat you to the Haymarket—I was not quite drunk—I did not ask you to take care of my watch and chain.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-133" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-133" type="surname" value="HATHAWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-133" type="given" value="MARK GEORGE"/>MARK GEORGE HATHAWAY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). I followed the prosecutor and prisoner from Aldgate Street to the Minories—they went into the Fountain public-house—I waited outside about two minutes—the pri
<lb/>soner came running out—I chased him to Vine Street, Minories—I said "What are you running for?"—he said he was only having a lark with a friend of his—I saw a watch and chain in his right hand—I took him back to the public-house and asked the prosecutor, "Have you lost a watch and chain?"—he said "Yes, and you have the man that stole it from my waistcoat pocket"—with great violence I succeeded in getting this watch, which the prosecutor identified—the prosecutor had been drinking but he could take care of himself—I have been in the force seven years—the prisoner gave me a wrong address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. It is about 40 yards from the Fountain to Tine Street—I should do it in about a minute—the prosecutor was looking for his watch when I went in—four or five people were there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I made a mistake in the number. I had met the prosecutor on 28th April, and met him again by appointment on 1st May. He gave me his watch to take care of; we drank six or seven glasses of.</p>
<p>pale brandy; he treated me; he asked me to go to the Haymarket, and I was taking care of it when I was taken. He has given me 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to take care of, which I gave him back two or three hours afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-494-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-494-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-494-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.**
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been convicted of felony at Newington, in June</hi>, 1865.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-494-punishment-23" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-494-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-494-punishment-23" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-494-18780506 t18780506-494-punishment-23"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18780506-495" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18780506"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-495" type="date" value="18780506"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18780506-495-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-495-18780506 t18780506-495-offence-1 t18780506-495-verdict-1"/>
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<p>495.
<persName id="def1-495-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-495-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-495-18780506" type="age" value="25"/>
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<interp inst="def1-495-18780506" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS WILLIAMS</hi> (25)</persName> and
<persName id="def2-495-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-495-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-495-18780506" type="age" value="22"/>
<interp inst="def2-495-18780506" type="surname" value="KING"/>
<interp inst="def2-495-18780506" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE KING</hi> (22)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-495-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-495-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-495-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Robbery with violence upon
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-136" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-136" type="surname" value="ABRAHAMS"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-495-offence-1 t18780506-name-136"/>Lewis Abrahams</persName>, and stealing a cheque for 41
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. three pieces of paper, and 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. R. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-137" type="surname" value="ABRAHAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-137" type="given" value="LEWIS"/>LEWIS ABRAHAMS</persName> </hi>. I am a silver and gold refiner of 22, Shepherd Street, Spitalfields—one Wednesday in April Mr. Welbeck gave me a cheque for 41
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. at 20, Garrick Street, about 4 o'clock—I put it in my pocket in a bag with 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and some memoranda, and went into a public-house, called for some gin, and took out my bag to pay for it—Williams was there smoking a pipe—on leaving I was attacked near a dead wall by four men—one caught me round my neck—I lost my senses—when I came to, my bag was gone—I went to the public-house next day and made some inquiries.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The public-house is not two minutes' walk from Wel
<lb/>beck's—I remained in the public-house about a quarter of an hour—the dead wall is in St. Martin's Lane.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-138" type="surname" value="BENJAMIN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-138" type="given" value="SOLOMON"/>SOLOMON BENJAMIN</persName> </hi>. I keep the Oak public-house, Blackmoor Street—on Sunday, 7th April, about five minutes to three, King knocked at my window and asked me if I should like to earn a score pounds—I after
<lb/>wards went to him outside and asked him the way I was to make the money—he showed me this cheque for 41
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and said all I had to do was</p>
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<p>to pay it to my brewer to-morrow morning—I looked at it and said "I am not satisfied with it; first of all it is not endorsed; next, how do you account for it?"—he handed me these memoranda from Mr. Welbeck and said "If you will endorse it I will arrange with you," and he was to come back at six o'clock—Williams said that they could put a good many things in my way—I was to have 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—they left me—I sought Mr. Wel
<lb/>beck and afterwards communicated with the police—about seven o'clock the prisoners entered and asked if there was any business—I got a bag of silver and said "If that is anything like business"—I put it in my pocket and said "We will go out and have something to drink"—we went to the Fountain—one of them said "Let us get on with this because we are short of money"—shortly afterwards an officer arrested them—Williams held the cheque and King transacted most of the business.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Williams</hi>. You and King have been in my house before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>. I have seen the prisoners in company before—they had this bag with them on the Sunday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-139" type="surname" value="KEELEY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-139" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK KEELEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). About four o'clock on 7th April Mr. Benjamin made a communication to me, in consequence of which I went to his house in Wych Street at seven o'clock—I saw him and the prisoners talking—Partridge, another policeman, was with me—I called for something to drink—seeing King get towards the door I said "Wait a moment, we are policemen; Mr. Benjamin told me to-day you have offered him a cheque"—he said "We know nothing about it"—I said "We will take you to the station"—Williams was standing near a beer barrel—we took the prisoners to the station—we found nothing on them—I went back to the public-house, and where Williams was standing I picked up this bag and the contents—I went back and told the prisoners—they said "We know nothing about it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for King</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-140" type="surname" value="HICKS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-140" type="given" value="HENRY MORRIS"/>HENRY MORRIS HICKS</persName> </hi>. I am a printer, of 181, Fleet Street, and live at Dulwich—King worked for me to 6th April and had done so for at least six weeks—he did not leave his work at my place in April—he could not do so without being seen.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. He had not left my employ.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Williams's Defence</hi>. Five days had gone and the prosecutors knew nothing about the cheque. The detective found it out. If he had been robbed he would have made some statement.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">King's Defence</hi>. I worked for Mr. Hicks. I met Williams, who told me he had some money left him, and we went the public-house to cash the cheque, which I told Mr. Benjamin belonged to Williams; but Mr. Benjamin said he would make it hot for me because he allowed card-playing in his house and I said I would stop it. There is no evidence that I robbed the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-495-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-495-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-495-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.**
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction of felony at this Court in September</hi>, 1875.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18780506-495-punishment-24" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-495-punishment-24" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-495-punishment-24" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-495-18780506 t18780506-495-punishment-24"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">KING</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-495-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-495-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-495-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18780506-496" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18780506"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-496" type="date" value="18780506"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18780506-496-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-496-18780506 t18780506-496-offence-1 t18780506-496-verdict-1"/>
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<p>496.
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<interp inst="def1-496-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-496-18780506" type="age" value="18"/>
<interp inst="def1-496-18780506" type="surname" value="TUCK"/>
<interp inst="def1-496-18780506" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN TUCK</hi> (18)</persName> and
<persName id="def2-496-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-496-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-496-18780506" type="age" value="14"/>
<interp inst="def2-496-18780506" type="surname" value="TUCK"/>
<interp inst="def2-496-18780506" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ALBERT TUCK</hi> (14)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-496-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-496-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-496-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="theftFromPlace"/>, Feloniously breaking and entering
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<interp inst="t18780506-geo-4" type="type" value="site"/>
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<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi> stealing certain moneys of
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-143" type="surname" value="HANCOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-143" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-496-offence-1 t18780506-name-143"/>Thomas Hancock</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBERT WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-144" type="surname" value="FRANCIS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-144" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FRANCIS</persName> </hi>. I am verger at St. Simon's Church, Hammersmith—on 15th April I went to the church about 8.20 a.m.—I found a window broken and a brick in the lobby—the hole was big enough for a boy to get through—I found no money in the box—the church door was still looked as I left it with the key inside—I went out the other way.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-145" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-145" type="surname" value="FRANCIS"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-145" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET FRANCIS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness, and pew-opener at this church—I was present on Sunday evening previous to this entry, and saw two persons put money in the box, which was locked—I and my husband locked up the church and went away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-146" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-146" type="surname" value="LAPPAM"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-146" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE LAPPAM</persName> </hi>. I am a plasterer's light labourer, and live at Ham
<lb/>mersmith—I was about to commence work at 6 a.m. on 15th April when I saw John Tuck in the churchyard—he heaved a piece of brick at the window and broke it—after looking round he wrenched the glass out with his hands and entered head first—he had been in about five minutes when his brother ran across and entered—I afterwards saw one of them again in the churchyard—I did not see them come out of the church—Stone-worthy was with me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-147" type="surname" value="STONEWORTHY"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-147" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK STONEWORTHY</persName> </hi>. I was with Lappam on 15th April, and about to commence work—I saw John Tuck pull the glass out of the church window and get through—I afterwards saw the brother run and get in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-148" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CROOKENDON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective T</hi>). I arrested the prisoners—Albert said, "You have been trying to get me for some time"—John said, "Oh, all right; I know nothing about it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-149" type="surname" value="HANCOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-149" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>REV. ROBERT HANCOCK</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in holy orders, and in charge of St. Simon's Church—this is the expenses box—the money is handed over to me, and I am responsible to the Vicar of Hammersmith—the church is licensed preparatory to a permanent church.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">John Tuck's Defence</hi>. I went at 6.20 a.m. to look for work. I could not get any, and went to join the militia.
<hi rend="italic">Albert Tuck's Defence</hi>. I was not there at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-150" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-150" type="surname" value="TUCK"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-150" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE TUCK</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoners' mother—they left home on 15th April at 6.30 by my clock, which was ten minutes fast.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-151" type="surname" value="TUCK"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-151" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES TUCK</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoners' father—they left home on 15th April at 6.33 by my dock, which was ten minutes fast—I had sent out to look at the Telegraph Hotel clock the night before—Albert's duties call him down in the neighbourhood several times during the day—he is well known there.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-496-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-496-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>497.
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<interp inst="def1-497-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-497-18780506" type="age" value="22"/>
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<interp inst="def1-497-18780506" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE LEAHEY</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-497-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-497-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-153" type="surname" value="GOULDSTONE"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-497-offence-1 t18780506-name-153"/>John Gouldstone</persName> and stealing two shawls and other articles his goods.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RAVEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-154" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-154" type="surname" value="GOULDSTONE"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-154" type="given" value="LYDIA"/>LYDIA GOULDSTONE</persName> </hi>. I live at 15, Dowdney Street, Limehouse, and am the wife of John Gouldstone—on 13th April I left home about 8.10 p.m., leaving the doors fastened—I returned at about 9.20 p.m.—I went through my brother's house, and through a wicket gate in at the back door—I saw a bundle in the passage—I went to the foot of the stairs—I heard a lumbering noise upstairs—some one said, "We want George"—the prisoner came down, and some one behind him—I said, "What do you do up there?"—he said, "You know all about it," and knocked me</p>
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<p>in the chest—I heard the men unbolt the door—they jumped into a cart and drove away—I said, "Stop the cart; there are thieves in it"—on examining the bundle I found my clothes and my lodger's clothes—I had left my clothes in boxes and drawers in my bedroom—I went to the police-station and gave a description of the prisoner, and afterwards went and identified him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I have lodgers, but they were out—there are four rooms—your blow
<hi rend="italic">shoved</hi> me into the kitchen—I pointed you out to a man in Waterloo Street—he did not say anything about you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-155" type="surname" value="BREED"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-155" type="given" value="WALTER"/>WALTER BREED</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 613). From a description I received I apprehended the prisoner—I told him I should take him for being con
<lb/>cerned with two others in a burglary—on the way he said "I would not do such a thing as a burglary, which one was it?"—he was placed with other men at the station and identified by the last witness.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I did not ask you for a knife, I spoke to the other men.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I was waiting for a friend outside where a teetotaller preaches, and saw a man coming along, with two others. He came back and looked at me. I waited three quarters of an hour, when the first witness saw me. She should have given me in custody then. The policeman put things into her head for the purpose of getting me convicted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-497-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-497-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. **
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a conviction of felony at this Court in January</hi>, 1876.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18780506-497-punishment-25" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-497-punishment-25" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-497-18780506 t18780506-497-punishment-25"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>498.
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<interp inst="def1-498-18780506" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-498-18780506" type="age" value="18"/>
<interp inst="def1-498-18780506" type="surname" value="BELTON"/>
<interp inst="def1-498-18780506" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS BELTON</hi> (18)</persName>
<rs id="t18780506-498-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-498-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-498-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="housebreaking"/>, Unlawfully attempting to enter the dwelling-house of
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-157" type="surname" value="FORD"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-498-offence-1 t18780506-name-157"/>Arthur Ford</persName>, and steal his goods and moneys.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. A. B. KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-158" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-158" type="surname" value="FORD"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-158" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR FORD</persName> </hi>. I keep a cigar shop in Gray's Inn Road—on 22nd April, about 12.30, I left my shop secured, to see some friends part of the way home—I returned about 1.30—I found some woodwork of the door had been cut away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-159" type="surname" value="BLACKMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-159" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BLACKMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 319). I was on duty at Gray's Inn a little before 2 o'clock, opposite the prosecutor's shop—I saw the prisoner and three other men and a female lurking about 176, Gray's Inn Road—I concealed myself in a doorway—I saw a gentleman and two ladies come down Gray's Inn Road—they stood on the edge of the pavement and looked up at the top of a house—I saw the prisoner and three others go to the door of 176—the prisoner knelt down, one of the men handed him an instrument, and he commenced working at the door—it was raining—they sang out "Copper" and ran up Gray's Inn Road—I ran after them 200 yards and caught the prisoner—I was taking him back to the house when he said "All right, governor, I know what you are going to take me back to that house for Never mind, I shall have to suffer for the
<hi rend="italic">bleeding</hi> lot"—"Copper" means policeman—there was a lamp opposite the door.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-160" type="surname" value="HOLT"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-160" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HOLT</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk and live in Calthorpe Street—I was in Gray's Inn Road about 1.20—I saw two or three people running—I was smoking—I saw the constable holding the prisoner—the constable seemed exhausted from running and claimed my assistance—I went with them to the shop and saw the marks on the door—the prisoner said "You have got hold of the wrong one this time"—on going back to the shop the prisoner said "I shall have to suffer for the
<hi rend="italic">bleeding</hi> lot."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before th Magistrate</hi>. "I was up and down</p>
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<p>Gray's Inn Road from 8.45 till 1.30. The gentleman who keeps the shop was being pushed about by two policemen. I had some coffee and the constable took me and showed me the door, and I am innocent of it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MRS. BELTON</hi>. I am the prisoner's mother—he is a well-conducted man and my chief supporter—I have a daughter—I have been a widow 11 years—my lad was never handled by the police before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18780506-498-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18780506-498-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-498-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Grove</hi>.</p>
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<persName id="def1-499-18780506" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-499-18780506" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EMMA BROWN</hi> (33),</persName>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-162" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18780506-499-offence-1 t18780506-name-162"/>Henry James Brown</persName> with intent to murder.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi> with intent to do grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. J. P. GRAIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-163" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-163" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). I am stationed at Twickenham—on 22nd March last I was on duty at the police-station there—about five minutes to six in the afternoon the prisoner came there and said "I wish to give myself up for murdering my little boy"—I asked her where—she said in the second cross road at Twickenham—I called the sergeant and informed him in her presence of what she had said and she then said "Murdering or attempting to murder"—the sergeant asked how she had done it—she said "I cut his throat and left him in the bed, don't ask me any more; take the key and go and see"—I took the key and went to the house she indicated—I inquired next door, found the husband there, and he unlocked the door with the key—I went up
<lb/>stairs, went into the room, and found the little boy on his face on the bed with his throat out—I believe he is seven years old next July—I sent for Dr. Ward—I have lived close to the prisoner about two years—she always walks along the street very strange and looks at no one, as though she is full of trouble—I have seen her a good deal the worse for drink many times, but not to say drunk—there are no other children—the husband is a bricklayer—they lived together—I do not know that the prisoner has been confined in Colney Hatch Asylum.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-164" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-164" type="surname" value="WARD,"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-164" type="given" value="MARTINDALE COWSLADE"/>MARTINDALE COWSLADE WARD, M. D</persName> </hi>. I practise and live at Twicken
<lb/>ham—on Friday evening, 22nd March, about six o'clock, I was called to the house in question and there found a child lying on the bed—my assistant was with me, and we examined the wound together—at first we could hardly tell whether the child was dead or alive—it had lost a very large quantity of blood—there was a very extensive wound across the throat about 5 inches in length—it cut almost entirely through the windpipe, and laid it bare but did not divide the large vessels on both sides—both the carotid artery and the jugular vein on both sides were exposed—heemorrhage was still going on and oozing into the windpipe—I succeeded in getting the child to swallow a small quantity of milk and brandy—ultimately we succeeded in saving the child's life—it very nearly died—mortification set in from the wound—I believe it will re
<lb/>cover—I was shown this razor—it is the sort of instrument that would cause such a wound—about 10 o'clock the same night I was requested by the police sergeant to visit the prisoner in the cell—I examined her</p>
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<p>and found that she had a little wound on the left thumb, and on turning up her sleeve her left arm was covered with recent blood—I could not say that she was drunk at the time, but she gave me the appearance of an habitual drunkard, a woman who was scarcely ever sober; she was quite capable of reasonably answering all questions put to her—I put some questions to her about the occurrence, and she also put some questions to me—she was able to answer questions rationally—she pressed me whether the child was likely to recover.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner</hi>. You might have been asleep when I came—you answered the questions which I put to you rationally—you repeatedly asked me whether I thought the child would live, and I said I could not give a positive opinion, it was in God's hands—you were not drunk—I should say you had been drinking heavily for a long time—it was a state of chronic drunkenness.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. I am afraid the prisoner will not understand what you mean by that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. Yes, I perfectly understand, but I don't want to criminate myself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-165" type="surname" value="ROWLING"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-165" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROWLING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant</hi>18
<hi rend="italic">T</hi>). I was called in by the con
<lb/>stable and saw the prisoner at the station, and she repeated to me what she had stated to the constable—her appearance indicated to me that
<hi rend="italic">delirium tremens</hi> was coming on or going off—I have seen several such cases—she did not appear drunk, and yet her manner was strange—I directed the constable to go on to the house with all haste, and finding he did not return I went on and saw the child and the doctor there—I pro
<lb/>duce a jacket which I took from the prisoner—she was wearing it at the time she gave herself up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DR. WARD</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I did not see any symptom of
<hi rend="italic">delirium tremens either</hi> past or threatening—delusion as to people and things is one of the first symptoms, or acute trembling of the frame generally—that is continuous until by treatment they become better—it lasts for days and nights—I saw no symptom of that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-166" type="surname" value="LIST"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-166" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LIST</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 55). I went to the house with Dr. Ward's assistant—a rug was removed from the child on the bed, and this razor fell from the rug; it was open.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-167" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-167" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-167" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY JONES</persName> </hi>. I was a police inspector on 22nd March, at Twicken
<lb/>ham—about 8 that evening I saw the prisoner at the station and placed her in the dock and read the charge to her—it was for feloniously cutting and wounding her son, Henry James Brown, by cutting his throat with a razor—she said "I gave myself up for that"—I said she would be detained and taken before the Magistrate in the morning—she said "By their judgment and the law of the land may I be judged"—she repeated those words two or three times—she said it in a decided way—she was very strange in her manner—I caused her to be locked up and a watch to be kept on the cell during the night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I only said it once or twice because some one seemed not to hear me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement he/ore the Magistrate</hi>. "I can only say I am sincerely sorry for the wicked act, and I hope God will forgive me for it; otherwise I reserve my defence."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I have no witnesses. I stand accused of my crime, and I only wish to be tried by the laws of my country. I am very sorry</p>
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<p>for the act I committed when drunk. I am perfectly sane in my intel
<lb/>lects, and I thank God for it. I am willing to bear whatever my coun
<lb/>try's laws put upon me, and I shall thank God for saving my mind. I thank God my mind is quite sound. I know my mother-in-law is here. She can prove I have been in an asylum; but I don't wish to call any witnesses. I don't know that she can do me any good; you may call her if you please.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-168" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-168" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-168" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's mother-in-law—she was confined in Colney Hatch Lunatic Asylum, I believe from about April till August, in 1872—I visited her there—the doctors said she was insane, that is all I know—I believe it was brought on from drink—she was very much in the habit of drinking at that time, before she went to the asylum—I know nothing of her family—I know she drank—I believe she committed this, act in a state of drink—when sober she was very loving to the child and always seemed very fond of him, and she was so to me—when sober she always did everything proper, when in drink she was very strange in every way—at other times I always found her what she ought to be—I will always take care of the boy—her mother committed suicide—I do not know whether it was when she was under the influence of drink.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-169" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-169" type="surname" value="MARSHALL"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-169" type="given" value="WILLIAM GERSLADE"/>WILLIAM GERSLADE MARSHALL</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, and am resident superintendent of the female department of the Colney Hatch Asylum—the prisoner was under my charge there from 4th April until July, 1872, when she went out on trial—the nature of her mania was madness from drink—she had loss of memory, and she was under the impression that she was poisoned—she wanted to put back three years of her life, and her ideas were generally confused—she was discharged off the books in August, 1872—I was not at home then—the last time I saw her she went out on trial, because I thought it would be better for her—I supposed her to be cured, or she would not have been discharged—she has not been back since that I am aware of—when she was labouring under these delusions she was not able to know that any act she committed was a wrong act, or of knowing the nature and quality of the act—when she was discharged I believed her to be perfectly sane and responsible for her actions—she soon recovered from the excitement.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. All I can say is that at the time I committed my act I had been drinking, and drunken persons don't know exactly what they do. I am very sorry for the act I have done and I truly repent; had I been sober I would not have done it, because willfully I would not have hurt him. I know I done it, and I am willing to suffer for it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRERE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FULTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Henry John Chad</hi>.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman X</hi> 221). On 14th March I was on duty in Lansdown Road about 11.40 at night, and saw the male prisoner there speaking to two other men—I went up to them and asked the prisoner what was the matter—he said "We have lost the plate out of our house"</p>
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<p>—I said "Where do you live?"—he said "75, Lansdowne Road"—I said "What time did you miss it?"—he said "I came home about 11.30; after I had been downstairs and taken off my hat and coat, on searching the rooms on my way to bed I missed the plate"—I and Constable Lewis then walked into the hall of the house—the female prisoner came and opened the door of the dining-room and the door of the sideboard which was in the dining-room, and she said in the male prisoner's presence "That is where the plate is gone from, it was wrapped in flannel"—I said "Have you searched the house?"—the male prisoner said "No, we have only been downstairs"—I then went up to the first-floor front bedroom, and on opening the door smoke burst out in my face—I said "You have a fire here"—I then took from the male prisoner a candle which he brought upstairs and entered the room—the smoke was so thick that I could not find the fire, and I had to leave the room—on entering a second time I placed my hand on the mattress; it gave way and the fire rolled out in ray hand; there were three mattresses—I then sent the other constable for the fire-engine; he returned and got water, which I poured on the mattresses and extinguished the fire—the bed-clothing which was on the bed I had previously taken off and rolled up in a ball—I then entered the back bedroom on the same floor—the female prisoner, who held followed me, exclaimed "Oh, some one has got in here; see, they have moved the drawers from the window"—one corner of the drawers had been pushed away from the window; it appeared that they had been in front of the window; there were flower pots on the drawers; the window was closed but unfastened, and the blind was down—I examined the window, there were no marks; there were bars outside, about 8 or 9 inches apart—we then went to the front bedroom second floor, and I there saw a mattress which had very recently been on fire, and a toilet-cover lying on it partly burnt—there was no fire, it was just burning out—I then went downstairs to the first floor again, when I, met Bolton, the fireman, and examined the back room with him—I found no marks of any entry having been made—I don't think any could possibly have been made without leaving marks—I saw Lewis take a box of matches from the table on the first-floor landing; he made some remark to the male prisoner about them, which I did not hear—I was afterwards present when the names and addresses were given—I left about 12.45—the house was quite close to where I first saw the prisoner—I was standing at the corner, and it was only one house from the corner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I was in plain clothes—the men the prisoner was talk
<lb/>ing to were a tradesmen and a man in his employ, and a constable in uniform, on the beat—they were very nearly opposite the house—they are not here—I was standing so close to them that I could overhear their conversation, and I walked up to them—I believe I did not tell the prisoner that I was a constable before I went into the house—the con
<lb/>stable in uniform did not go in, he remained at the gate—Lewis went in with me, he was in plain clothes—the prisoner was speaking to the other constable about the plate being lost—I did not inquire where he had been that evening, merely the time he went out and returned—he remained in the house till the fireman came—the mattress was burnt through—I believe it was a wool mattress—there was a hole burnt in it, but it had not spread to the rest of the mattress—that fire had died out recently—</p>
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<p>that does not apply to the other room, that was on fire—I could not say the length of time it had been burning—it was burnt from the foot to the head, and half way across the bed—the clothing was burnt—the man was taken into custody on this charge the next evening.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. There were no other persons in the house but the two prisoners—there was no connection between the two fires—they must have been quite separate, they were on two separate floors—the bars were to the first floor window—that is about 20 feet from the ground; and the second floor about 28.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By Jessie Chad</hi>. Your husband did not help to put the fire out—he said that when he put the key in the street door it only turned once instead of twice.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman X R</hi> 29). I was with Hilder on the night of 14th March about 11.40 and saw the male prisoner talking to two other men—we went up to them—the prisoner said that somebody had broken into the house and they had lost some plate; and he, and I, and Hilder went to 75, Lansdowne Road—I saw the female prisoner in the hall close to the door—I went with her into the dining-room—she opened the side
<lb/>board door and said "Here is where the plate is gone from"—she pointed out a piece of flannel and said "It was wrapped up in this piece of flannel"—the male prisoner was present—we were all together—we went upstairs to the first-floor landing—there was a box of matches on a table—I said "Here is a box of matches"—both prisoners said "They belong to us," and the male prisoner put it in his pocket there was a match on the table which had been recently lighted—I have heard Hilder's evidence and agree with him as to all the appearances in both rooms—the female prisoner pointed to the window in the back room first floor and said" That is where the entry was made"—I examined and there were no marks of any there, or in any part of the house—I examined the gar
<lb/>den at the back of the house, and there were no marks there of any foot
<lb/>steps, the gravel was soft—the female prisoner said in the hall, before the fireman arrived, "It is a very bad job, and it is worse for me because I am so far gone in the family way."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. Hilder and I put out the fire before the fireman came—the male prisoner showed me where to get the water, from a tap on the first-floor landing.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-174" type="given" value="CHARLES HENRY"/>CHARLES HENRY BOLTER</persName> </hi>. I am an engineer of the London Fire Bri
<lb/>gade stationed at Ladbroke Road, Notting Hill—on 14th March I was called to a fire at 75, Lansdowne Road, at 11.57, and I arrived there at about two minutes to 12 o'clock—I went upstairs to the front bedroom first floor, and examined the mattress and bedding—the fire was quite out then—judging from the appearances I should judge the fire had been burning from 15 to 20 minutes at the very outside—I have been 24 years in the brigade, and have attended a great many fires—on entering the room I discovered a peculiar smell, as if some chemical had been used in the process of the fire—there was a large body of smoke in the room—I can hardly describe what the smell was like—I opened the window to allow the smoke to pass out—I went to the second floor; there had been a fire on the bed in the front room; something like a toilet cover had been set light and thrown on the bed—the bed was perfectly bare of clothes, and the toilet cover had burnt itself on the mattress—it had not been burning many minutes—I examined the premises with the constable—the male</p>
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<p>prisoner called my attention to the chest of drawers which had been re
<lb/>moved from the window in the back room first floor, and said that some one had made an entry there—the drawers had been moved—there were some flower-pots on the drawers; they were top-heavy, and it would have been impossible to have entered the window and pushed them aside without overturning them—there were not the slightest marks on the window—I examined the garden; there were no traces of any footmarks or of a ladder—the soil was soft—we searched the house throughout from top to bottom, and did not find the slightest marks of any entry—I asked the female if she had any idea of the cause of the fire; she said she could not account for it—I asked what time she went out—she said about 6 o'clock—I asked what time she returned—she said about half-past 11 o'clock—I asked her if she had a light of any kind, gas or a candle, previous to going out—she said there was no occasion for it, as it was quite light when she went out—I asked if there had been a fire in the room—she said, "No"—I asked if she had had any matches about the place—she said "No"—I asked how she found the premises on returning—she said that on opening the street door, instead of the lock turning twice, she opened it with one turn only, showing that somebody had entered previous to her—I then asked her for the occupier's name—she went downstairs into the dining-room and got me a card with Mr. Corbett's name and address on it—the two fires were perfectly distinct and sepa
<lb/>rate; there was no communication whatever between them—I should say they must have been wilful—there was no sign of their being accidental</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I can judge of the time a fire has been burning within a very few minutes—it would only take a very few minutes to consume the toilet cover—the tick of the mattress was also burnt just where the toilet cover laid—that was my reason for thinking that chemicals were used, from its burning so rapidly; I believe that something had been poured on to assist the fire in burning—I examined the lock of the street door—it was the usual street door lock—it acted pretty well—I certainly did not turn the key; it had a handle inside, I think, but I would not be positive—I did not notice any way by which a person could enter the house except by unlocking the door.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective X</hi>). On 15th March, about 10 a.m., I went to 75, Lansdowne Road—I found both the prisoners there—I went with them into the dining-room, and the female prisoner, pointing to the side
<lb/>board, said "That is where the plate was stolen from"—I went upstairs with Inspector Higgins and found that a bed had been burnt in the front room first floor, and also one in the second-floor front—the female pointed to a bath in that room, and said there had been linen taken from it—in the back room first floor a table or drawers stood near the window with flower-pots on it—the female prisoner said "That must be the way they came in"—I examined the window, there were no marks on it; outside of it there was a guard rail to keep flower-pots from falling, and there were marks of dust or soot on the sill which had not been touched—I examined the rest of the house and found no marks of entry anywhere—I asked the prisoners where they were supposed to be last night during the time the house had been entered—the female said "I went to my mother's, 17, Market Street, Paddington, and also to my brother's, 18, Bolton Road, the Knight of Saint John's public-house"—I made inquiries and found that statement to be correct—I returned to the house and told</p>
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<p>the prisoners I had found the statement correct, but not the tale they told about the thieves entering the house, that I could not believe it, and that they must consider themselves in custody for being concerned together in stealing the property which they had stated bad been stolen—the male prisoner said "I know nothing about it myself, and if my wife does it is unbeknown to me"—the female prisoner said "My husband knows nothing about it; I took the things and pledged them in Portobello Road and Archer Street, Notting Hill," where I afterwards found portions of the property—I took the prisoners to the station—I afterwards examined the house, No. 75, Lansdowne Road, with Mr. Corbett, and found boxes and drawers and chests broken open, and in a drawer in the room occupied. by the prisoners I found this screw-driver, which I matched to the marks on the drawers and the chests which had been broken, and found they corresponded.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The male prisoner has always said that he knew nothing about it—he was present when the female stated where the property was pawned.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-176" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES FENN</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to a pawnbroker in Portobello Road—I produce six electro-plated table-spoons, dessert-spoons, forks, curtains, blankets, and towels pledged by the female prisoner between the 18th December, 1877, and the 30th March, 1878, in the name of Jenny Smith.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-177" type="given" value="CLIFFORD"/>CLIFFORD LUCCOMB</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Messrs. Reed, pawnbrokers, of 10, Archer Street, Notting Hill—I produce two watches, some rings, a chain, two hearth-rugs, and other articles, pawned by the female prisoner between the 24th December, 1877, and the 13th March, 1877.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-178" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-178" type="given" value="ELEANOR MARY"/>ELEANOR MARY CORBETT</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Captain Frank Vincent Corbett, of the Royal Engineers, now in India—up to December last I was living with my children at 75, Lansdowne Road—I left on the even
<lb/>ing of the 11th December with my children for Biarritz—the prisoners were to come and take charge of the house after my servants left—I returned to England on 26th March, and next day went to 75, Lans
<lb/>downe Road—I found in two of the rooms the beds had been set fire to, and a box had been opened, and the contents had been taken out—the house was entirely stripped—I do not think any one could have been liv
<lb/>ing in the house without seeing the condition it was in—most of the things were locked up in the room which the prisoners slept in—I have examined the articles produced, they are my husband's property—a great number of other things are missing—the value of the articles taken would be about 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. A good deal of plate is still missing—I only saw the female prisoner when I engaged them to look after the house—I supposed her to be a married woman and that her husband was to come there and live with her—they were sent to me by a woman whom I knew well, and in whom I had perfect confidence, I believe she was an aunt of the female prisoner, I had known her ever since she was a child, there is no reason to believe that she is in any way implicated—I understood from the female prisoner that her husband was a carpenter—I had told the female pri
<lb/>soner that I should return to England about 15th of March—I had received a letter from her about the 8th asking me to let her know when I should be back as she would have to find a lodging for herself and my answer arrived after they were in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-179" type="given" value="JOSEPHINE"/>JOSEPHINE CALLANAN</persName> </hi>. I am maid to Mrs. Corbett—when I went abroad</p>
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<p>with her in December last, I left at 75, Lansdowne Road some jewellery and other articles in a box—the jewellery was in a small box in a large American trunk, which was locked with two locks and a chain—I identify the jewellery produced as part of that I left in the trunk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18780506-name-180" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18780506-name-180" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-180" type="surname" value="BULL"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-name-180" type="given" value="EMILY JANE"/>EMILY JANE BULL</persName> </hi>. I was in Mrs. Corbett's service—when she left on 11th December I remained in the house till the following night—the female prisoner came to take charge of the house in the afternoon of 12th December—I did not see the man at all—everything was safe and in order when I left on the 13th.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Jessie Chad</hi>. As far as I know everything was locked up—the keys were left in the cupboard and wardrobe, but nothing was left there except some curtains—Mrs. Corbett herself put the basket of silver in the chest, locked it and took the key abroad with her—no silver was left out but a little for your use.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-181" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH FINDLAY</persName> </hi>. I was cook at 72, Lansdowne Road, opposite 75—I have seen the prisoners go in and out of 75—I think in January I saw some things put in a cab that was standing at the door, and the female prisoner was standing at the door with a candle; it was about 7 o'clock at night—I can't say who put the things in or what they were—since then I have seen the man go in and out—he appeared to be living there—once I saw him leave with a bundle under his arm and the female had a baby in her arms—that was about a week before the fire.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. It was about 4 o'clock in the afternoon when I saw him with the bundle—I did not mention about it till after I heard of the fire.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoners' Statements before the Magistrate. Henry John Chad</hi>: "I don't know anything about it at all."
<hi rend="italic">Jessie Chad</hi>: "I say nothing. My husband is innocent of all. We are both innocent of the fire; any one of sense must know the bed had been burning more than 20 minutes. I am guilty of the other things, I know."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Jessie Chad's Defence</hi>. My husband knew nothing about the things. I pledged them; all the things fetched was 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I intended to fetch them home before Mrs. Corbett came back. I pledged them unknown to my husband. He is my husband; we should have been married before, but he was not in work.
<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY JOHN CHAD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received a good character</hi>.
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JESSIE CHAD</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18780506-500-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-500-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-500-18780506 t18780506-500-punishment-27"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against the male prisoner for the
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<interp inst="t18780506-500-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18780506-500-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>larceny</rs>,
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1878.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Baron Pollock</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GREENE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>:
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Dubois and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER-WYLD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for De Jongh</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18780506-name-184" type="given" value="MORRIS DE"/>MORRIS DE LEON</persName> </hi>. I am an engraver and die sinker, at 24, Rathbone Place, Oxford Street—on 14th January Dubois called and made a small purchase, and on the 23rd January he called again and ordered three</p>
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<p>presses for endorsing stamps on bills and invoices, and on the 31st he called and took them away—on that occasion he gave the name of Paul; and said that he was sorry he had not given me his address before—he called again on 8th February and produced this piece of paper with "F. May" on it, and said that he wanted a stamp made for a
<hi rend="italic">fac simile</hi>—the signature struck me immediately as that of the Dutch Consul in London—I am a Dutchman—I think he wrote on it in the shop "Pym," and I scratched it out and wrote "Pimlico" with an "i"—I said that part of the "y" in May could not be included in a No. 3 stamp, and produced a larger press—he took a small piece of paper out of his pocket marked 40 A, 40 B, 40 C and 41 C—40 A. was in pen and ink, and the others were in pencil—he wanted me to make blocks for them, and also blocks from this small piece of paper with a 1 and a 9—he asked me if I had figures to match those—I showed him several and in one the stroke ran up—he said that that would not do, he wanted them executed the same, and wanted me to make a block with "39" on it, and three extra sets of figures from 1 to 0, so that he could print 39,000, 120, 121, 122, and so on—he did not leave the pieces of paper with me—I told him the best thing he could do was to introduce a numbering machine to his customers, as those loose figures would be difficult to work, and if he was so parti
<lb/>cular about the numbers I could not do it unless he brought a strip of paper with all the figures upon it—he said that when he called for the other press he would give me the order for the numbering machine, the price of which was to be 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he paid me 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. deposit, and 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was to be the price of the stamp and blocks, leaving 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave no name or address—he wanted the work ready on Monday, 11th February, at 11 o'clock, military hours—I completed the order, but he did not come—a friend called my attention to the propriety of having the stamp with "F. May" upon it, and I communicated with the authorities of the Bank—on 19th March he came again with De Jongh, and said that he had not called before as he was ill, but it did not matter as, his customer did not want the stamp, and therefore I must let him have it a little cheaper—I said I could not let him have it for less—he said, "At any rate you must deduct the 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., as I will give you another order"—he then produced these papers, Q and R, and asked me to make the figures on R the same shape and size as marked on Q, and asked what the price would be—I told him 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. per letter per block—he said that that would be too dear—I told him I could make loose types—he said that he wanted them by Friday, and De Jongh said, "No. Thursday night"—I said that I would let him have them if he would keep his time better—I told Dubois he must leave 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. deposit for the numbering machine, and that it would take eight days making—he said that was all right; he would give me the order when he called for the others—he said that he would pay me 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the press I had made, and leave it with me till Thursday evening—I said, "You had better take it with you, as when you have paid for it it is your property"—he said that he was not going home, and should prefer to leave it with me—I told him I was going to Paris to the Exhibition, and that if he left it with me it was likely to be mislaid, and it would be better for him to take it—he agreed to do so, and made a sign to De Jongh, who passed a sovereign to me, and the stamp and press were handed to Dubois—this bill was made out to Mr. Paul—I did not know any other name—the total was 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., less 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. deposit,</p>
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<p>and the 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. he told me to deduct left 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that included the stamps 40 A, 40 B, and 40 C—this is the stamp I made; it is self-inking—I called to my book-keeper to make out a bill for the six extra types at 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and De Jongh said, "No, you said 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each"—I said, "That is right; I made a mistake"—De Jongh asked me if I printed cards—I said "Yes"—he asked me the price of 100 cards—I said "3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>."—De Jongh said that he wanted the additional stamps on Thursday night—the prices were handed to them and they left.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>. The police officers were upstairs in my house—the conversations I had were all after communicating with the police, and it was arranged that I was to make the prisoners take the things away—I have a Paris house as well—I have several silver medals from International Exhibitions, but my shop is very small and my busi
<lb/>ness not very extensive—Dubois came on 14th, 21st, and 31st January, February 8th, and March 19th—I have had a copy of my evidence given me from Mr. Freshfield to see if it was correct—it had all the conversa
<lb/>tions with Dubois in it—I have not got it here.</p>
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