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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>LUSK, MAYOR.</p>
<p>EIGHTH SESSION, HELD JUNE 8TH, 1874.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-1" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED, BY</p>
<p>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS & SONS, 119, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, June 8th, 1874, and following days,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-2" type="given" value="ANDREW"/>ANDREW LUSK</persName>, M.P., LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Right Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-4" type="given" value="CHIEF"/>Lord Chief Baron</persName> of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-5" type="given" value="COLIN"/>COLIN BLACKBURN</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS QUESTED FINNIS</hi>, Esq., Sir
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-6" type="given" value="BENJAMIN SAMUEL"/>BENJAMIN SAMUEL PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>, Knt.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; The Right' Hon.
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-7" type="given" value="RUSSELL"/>RUSSELL GURNEY</persName> </hi>, Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City;
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<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS SCAMBLER OWDEN</hi>, Esq., Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES WYATT TRUSCOTT</hi>,. Knt.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN WHITTKER ELLIS</hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-9" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PATERSON</persName> </hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-10" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-11" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriff's Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer, and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES WHETHAM</hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-13" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BEARD</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-14" type="given" value="ARTHUR TURNER"/>ARTHUR TURNER HEWETT</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LUSK, MAYOR. EIGHTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, June</hi>, 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1874.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before, Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">No evidence was offered on the part of the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Sayers.</hi> You had a knife—I did not rush at you—you did not pick the watch up from the ground—your nose got struck in the struggle and was bleeding.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Jones.</hi> I did not feel you tug at the watch.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Sayers.</hi> I saw the watch in your hand when the
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<hi rend="italic">Jones's Defence.</hi> I am innocent.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sayers' Defence.</hi> This man is a stranger to me. I have known Mr. Green there twelve years, and he saw me there and took me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi>
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<p>384.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ST. AUBYN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was very drunk—I could not say that he staggered—he was the worse for liquor, and I was angry with him for being so.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 332). I heard cries of "Murder?" and "Police!" and went to the house where the prisoner and his wife lodged—I found her at the door bleeding fearfully from a wound on the left side of the neck—I asked her what was the matter—she said she had been stabbed by her husband—I produce the knife—she had it in her left hand—I went into the front parlour and found the prisoner sitting down—I told him I should take him into custody—he said "All right; I threw the knife, but I did not mean it"—he was very much the worse for liquor—his wife was sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>: "I did not do it with the intention of doing her any harm—I had a drop of drink—I did not stab her, I threw the knife."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LANGFORD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WEATHERBY</hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-31" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC GILBERT</persName> </hi> (
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had been watching him four or five minutes on that occasion—I had seen him previously, but I had lost him—there was a large crowd.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-32" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY COOKSEY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Cooksey, and live at 68, Balls Pond Road—on the night of the 29th of April I was in Princes Street, near the Mansion House, about 10 o'clock—I was looking at the illuminations—I did not feel anyone's hand
<hi rend="italic">in my</hi> pocket—I felt
<hi rend="italic">someone</hi> put their hands round my waist, but I could not say that it was the prisoner—I requested them to remove their hands—I could not see who it was, the crowd was too great—the constable spoke to me afterwards, and I put my hand in my pocket, and missed my knife—I had seen it safe at 6 o'clock in the evening—this is my knife—I did not see it taken from the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I know it is my knife—one reason is that it is darker on one side than on the other—there is no other mark—I had not my watch on at that time—my handkerchief was in my pocket—I had my purse in my hand—I had removed that from my pocket for safety—there was a great crowd.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CHARLES MATTHEWS</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WARNER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I heard the footsteps distinctly as far as the parlour—the prisoner's foot was sprained—he did not appear as if he had been drinking at all—I heard him give the constable an address, and state who he was—he could not walk up from the area, and they took him to the station, I believe, and to the hospital.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sergeant C</hi> 2). I was called to the house of the last witness about 3.30, and saw the prisoner in the area—he had his boots on at the time—the parlour window was open, and also the window in the area—the prisoner said he had fallen into the area in running away from a police constable—I took him into the kitchen, and asked him what he had got about him, at first he said nothing—he subsequently said that he had a knife—he seemed to be in pain about his foot, and I took him to the hospital before going to the station—I searched him subsequently again, and found this knife (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) open—he said it was his—the kitchen window had been opened by a knife being passed in and the catch thrown back, and the shutter bar had been lifted in the same way—that could be done by such a knife as that—the area railings are about 5 feet high, and the area is 10 feet below the level of the footway.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Nothing was disturbed in the house.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi>,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-39" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HEMMING</persName> </hi>. I live at 19, Sidney Street, York Road, King's Cross, and am a carman, in the employ of Mr. Frederick Roots, who is a potatoe salesman—on the 4th of May, about 2 o'clock in the afternoon, the prisoner stopped me at the Holborn end of Hatton Garden—I was driving a horse and van laden with bags of potatoes to the Borough Market—the prisoner asked me whether my name was Charley—I said yes—he said Mr. Roots wanted me at Farringdon Station—I pulled on one side, and put the chain on the wheel—he said he would stop and mind it if I was not too long—I went to Farringdon Station, leaving him at St. Andrew's Street with
<hi rend="italic">'</hi>, the horse and van—I did not see Mr. Roots when I got to the station, and in about ten minutes I returned to the place where I had left the van—I found it gone and the prisoner too—I spoke to the police, and afterwards I saw the prisoner coming out of Fetter Lane into Holborn, leading the horse by the reins—the constable took him into custody—I did not know the prisoner at all, he was a stranger to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When I saw the prisoner I took the van and the horse against St. Andrew's Church, and I put the chain on the wheel there—the place I met him afterwards was not fifty yards from where I had left him—I had left him near the Holborn end of Shoe Lane, and I met him afterwards coming out of Fetter Lane into Holborn.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-40" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES AMBROSE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 260). About 2.30 on the 4th May I was at the corner of Little New Street, Shoe Lane—I saw the prisoner go up. Little New Street leading a horse attached to a van loaded with potatoes—</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was a four-wheeled van, and had got the owner's name on it—the potatoes were all safe.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, June</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1874.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DE MICHELE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-52" type="surname" value="MOORE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-52" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MOORE</persName> </hi>. I keep the White Horse, High Street, Poplar—on 19th May I served the prisoner with 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of brandy; she gave me a bad half-crown—my wife came forward and said "This woman gave me a bad half-crown a few weeks back"—I then looked at the half-crown and found it was bad—I said "This is a bad one''—she said "I have never been in your place before," and gave me a good one—when she was in the shop four or five weeks before she gave me a bad half-crown, which the constable has; she succeeded then in getting away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I do a very large business—the first occasion was on a Saturday night, when we are usually more busy than on other nights—I said before the magistrate my wife said in the prisoner's presence, "You know you are the woman who changed the bad half-crown two or three weeks ago," and the prisoner said, "I have never been here before; I am a respectable woman—my wife is not here—it was she who really called my attention to the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-53" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD STONEHAM</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman k</hi> 559). I took the prisoner and asked her where she lived; she said "In the East India Road;" but at the station she said she had no home—she said that a sailor gave her two half crowns, and one of them must have been bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-54" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi> I am Inspector of Coin to Her Majesty's Mint. These two half-crowns are bad.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "A sailor gave me 5
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFUBD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-57" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-57" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HOW</persName> </hi>. I am a fishmonger, of 19, Earl's Court, Kensington—on 22nd May, about 11.30 p.m., the prisoners came in, and Crazzy asked for 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of fish; he gave me a florin—I put it in the till where there was no other florin, and gave him his change—they ate the fish and left together—Tyson came back in two or three minutes and asked for a pennyworth of fish; he gave me a shilling—I told him it was bad, and he had better break it and throw the pieces away—he broke it and gave me a good one—I afterwards got one of the pieces—three or four minutes after he left I found a bad florin in the till, the only one there—I gave information, and after wards saw the prisoners in custody at the station—I told them they had given me a bad florin—Cazzy said "I did not give it to you"—I gave the florin and the pieces of that shilling to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cazzy. Q.</hi> Do you know me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have seen you backwards and for
<lb/>wards—I said to you "I have given you a shilling, a sixpence, a threepenny piece, and a penny"—I said that because I was given to understand that you were near sighted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-58" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BULLOCK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T R</hi> 27). On 22nd May, in consequence of what I heard from Joseph How, I searched and found the prisoners drinking in the Civet Cat—they came outside, and I saw Cazzy pass something to Tyson, who put it in his left hand trousers pocket—I went and got another constable—we went into the Civet Cat, and the prisoners had returned there—I told them the charge; they made no reply—on the way to the station Cazzy had a packet in his hand, which he attempted to put down an area; he afterwards threw it on to the roof of a stable—I saw another con
<lb/>stable go up a ladder and get it—it was opened at the station, and con
<lb/>tained thirteen florins and thirteen shillings in separate packets, eights florins in tissue paper, another packet with five florins and one shilling, and another packet of ten shillings, also two shillings tied up in the corner of a handkerchief—I found in Tyson's left pocket one half-crown, two shillings, five sixpences, a threepennypiece, and elevenpence halfpenny in bronze, all good—I produce the bad money, also this bad florin and piece of a bad shilling, which I received from Mr. How.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-59" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-59" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY COOTE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 476). I assisted Bullock—I took Cazzy, but found nothing on
<hi rend="italic">him</hi>—I went to the top of the stable and got this parcel.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-60" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-60" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are all bad, and so is this fragment of a shilling, and these eleven shillings found on Cazzy are bad, and from the same mould as that uttered by Tyson—these thirteen florins are bad, and from the same mould as that uttered by Cazzy.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cazzy's Defence.</hi> I picked up the money, met Tyson, and asked him to have some fish. I put down the florin, I did not know it was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Tyson's Defence.</hi> This man met me and asked me to have some fish. He afterwards said "Will you have a bit more fish?" I said "Yes." He gave rue a shilling, and when I offered it they said it was bad.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-394-18740608 t18740608-394-punishment-11"/>Fifteen Months' Imprisonment each</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DE MICHELE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-62" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-62" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE COX</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the Three Horse Shoes, Milford Lane, Strand—on Saturday night, 9th of May, about 9.30, I served the prisoner with a glass of ale, he put down a shilling, and I gave him 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I kept the shilling in my hand, and as he went out another man came in for a glass of ale, and put down a bad shilling—I told him it was bad, and did not take it, when he gave me 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and took it back—I then found that the prisoner's shilling was bad—I went to the door and told the prisoner his shilling was bad, he took out his money to show me, and said "I have no bad money"—I heard some money fall in the road, and returned into the bar, the other man had gone quite away when I heard the money fall.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> Had not I plenty of time to go away before you came out?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It seemed to me that you was waiting for the second-man—I was alone.
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not put the bad shilling into the till.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-63" type="given" value="GEORGE LE"/>GEORGE LE SAGE</persName> </hi>. I am 14 years old, and live at 4, Greyhound Court, Strand—I was in Essex Street on 9th of May, and saw the prisoner just outside the Three Horse Shoes talking to Mrs. Cox—I heard a shilling fall in the road just by the prisoner—I picked it up, took it into the public-house, and gave it to Mr. Morgan.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-64" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT VENABLES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 373). I took the prisoner, he was searched at the house, but nothing but good money was found upon him—while I was searching him I heard the boy say that he had found a shilling outside—Mr. Morgan gave it to me—the prisoner could hear what was going on, he made no observation—I received a shilling from Mrs. Cox.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-65" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These shillings are both bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I have a good trade, and have never been accused, is it likely that I should throw away my liberty for the sake of a paltry shilling, and go into the house with two bad shillings on me.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DE MICHELE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-67" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-67" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH SIMMONDS</persName> </hi>. I keep the Butler's Head, Telegraph Street—on 8th May about 7.30 the prisoner came in for 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of brandy, and tendered a half-sovereign—I took it up, and found it was bad—he said that he worked at a butcher's, and could pay with other money if I did not like it—I said that I should not return it, and should lock him up—he immediately went out of the house—I went to the station and gave the half-sovereign to the Inspector—I was sent for next morning, saw the prisoner, and gave him in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was brought out by himself—I heard that a man had been charged with passing bad money, and I said that I ought to go and relate my case—I asked if they had got a man in custody, and they said that they had let him go—when I saw him the next morning he was not put with other people—I had described him as a little man, with a peaky cap like a midshipman and a blue coat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-68" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-68" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE OVERTON</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the Swan's Nest, Moorgate Street, close by the Butler's Head—on 8th May the prisoner came in for 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of shrub—my daughter served him—he put down a half-sovereign, which she handed to me—I broke it in half, and said this is a bad</p>
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<p>half-sovereign—he said that he had other money—I handed him over to a constable, but did not give him in charge, as my husband was not at home—the constable took the prisoner away, and I handed him the pieces of the half-sovereign, but I could not leave my shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I never saw the prisoner before that day, but he had been in that afternoon and had some shrub, which he paid for with coppers—he said that he received the money from his brother, who was a butcher; he did not attempt to run away, we had men in the bar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-69" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-69" type="surname" value="HATCHER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-69" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HATCHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-Policeman</hi> 171). On 8th May about 9.30 I was called to the Swan's Nest and took the prisoner—I only found a penknife on him—I asked him how he accounted for the half-sovereign, he said that his bro
<lb/>ther of 25, Grafton street, Soho, for whom he worked, gave it to him—he was discharged by the Inspector but the coin was detained—A few minutes after that Mrs. Simmonds came to the station, and in consequence of what she said I went in search of the prisoner—she said that it was a young lad dressed in a short jacket—I found the prisoner at Grafton-street, at his brother's house next morning and told him he must go with me to the sta
<lb/>tion, and he would be charged with uttering a bad half-sovereign to Mrs. Butler of 6, Telegraph-street—he said "I have no recollection; I only had one half-sovereign and that was given to me by my brother last night"—I searched him at the station and found two shillings, three sixpences, and a shilling in coppers—Mr. Simmonds came to the station the same morning and identified the prisoner; he said "I have no recollection of you whatever.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi>—I have made enquiries and find that he is in his brother's service in Grafton-street—his father and brother are master butchers—I saw no mark on the half-sovereign Mrs. Simmonds gave me when she came to the station—I told her that a man had been charged with passing bad money, but I did not describe him—I afterwards sent for her to identify him—it is not always the custom to put other persons with a person to be identified—I cannot assign any reason for not doing so—I did not think it, necessary—I brought him out and she said "That is him."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-70" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-70" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two half-sovereigns are bad and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate:</hi> I am not guilty of the offence, I did not know if they were good or bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-396-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<p>397.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY ANN FOSTER</hi> (50)</persName>, was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DE MICHELE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-72" type="surname" value="SAWYER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-72" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK SAWYER</persName> </hi>. I keep the Hampshire Hog at Hammersmith—on 17th April, about 10 a.m., I served the prisoner with half-a-pint of beer and a 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of tobacco—my wife spoke to me behind and the prisoner put first 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. then a half-crown—I did not examine it but put it into an empty bowl in the till and gave the prisoner her change and she left—half-an-hour afterwards my wife called my attention to the half-crown and I found it was bad—I had been out for a time but had left my wife there—she is not here, she is ill—I put the half-crown in the fire and it melted very soon—on the 2nd May the prisoner came again and I recognized her, she called for half-a-pint of beer and gave me a bad shilling, the bar was very full so I gave her the change and put it by the side of the bowl, where it could not be mixed—on the next Wednesday I saw the prisoner in the street, she came in called for a glass of ale and gave me a bad shilling—I said "This is the third</p>
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<p>time you have had me and now I will have you"—she ran away, I ran after her and brought her back, she went on her knees and begged for mercy as she had got so many orphans—I had said to my wife "The woman is com
<lb/>ing, now I shall have her—she at first took a shilling out of her purse which appeared to be good, I held out my hand for it and she gave me the bad one—she afterwards said that that was the shilling she had given me, I said how can that be when I have it in my fingers—I gave her in charge with the two bad shillings.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-73" type="surname" value="BURRIDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-73" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BURRIDGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman U</hi> 128). The prisoner was given into my custody with these two shillings—I produce a purse and a good shilling which were found on her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-74" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-74" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two shillings are bad—the fact of a coin melting in am ordinary fire would signify that it was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's defence.</hi>—I am innocent—I never gave him a shilling—I was not in the house.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18740608-397-punishment-14" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN KING</hi> (34)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">DE MICHELE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-76" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-76" type="surname" value="BLAZEY"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-76" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN BLAZEY</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Golden Cross, Duncannon Street—on 35th April about 10.30 p.m., I served the prisoner with a glass of ale; he gave me a shilling, it bent easily, I told him it was bad and he gave me a good one and left—he came again about 11.30 for 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of gin and bitter and put down a florin, I bent it and found it was bad—I had given him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change and he was leaving the counter when I said "This is a bad one," he put the change down, took the coin out of my fingers and tried to go away but was stopped and given in custody—on the Monday morning I saw a bad florin picked up outside our door—I could not swear to it but it was bent like the one he snatched out of my hand—I gave it to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-77" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-77" type="surname" value="CRANFIELD"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-77" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CRANFIELD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 188). The prisoner was given into my custody—he said that he would rather break into a house than try to pass bad coin—I found 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. good money on him—he was taken before a Magistrate, remanded till 4th May and then discharged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I give my address, and where I worked?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-78" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-78" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY NICHOLLS</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Salutation, Tavistock Street, Covent Garden—on 16th May I served the prisoner with a glass of ale—he gave me a florin—I broke it in two, and my mistress sent for a policeman and gave him in charge—he said that he took it in his wages, and afterwards that he took it in a public-house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-79" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-79" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 288). I took the prisoner—he gave his name John Kean, then John King, and then William Smith, and said that he had worked for Mr. Brooks in the market for a number of years as odd man—he said that he took the coin in his wages—I found no money on him—Emily Nicholls gave me this coin (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-80" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-80" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> A cabman pulled up with a fare and asked me if I had got change for a florin, I gave it to him. I tendered the florin in the Golden Cross, and they said it was bad; I was not allowed to go to the door to call the cabman. She does not swear to the coin picked up, and it would be impossible in this dry weather for it to have lain in the street for two nights and a day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-398-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-398-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a previous conviction of felony at Clerkenwell,</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">to which he</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>,**
<hi rend="italic">and stated that he should now have to sera the remaining eighteen months of his unexpired sentence—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-398-18740608 t18740608-398-punishment-15"/>Nine Months Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>399.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HARRIETT THOMAS</hi> (24)</persName>, was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DE MICHELE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MATTHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-82" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-82" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-82" type="surname" value="BUIST"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-82" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH BUIST</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Alexander Buist, of 3, Julia Street, Kentish Town—on 19th or 20th February I served the prisoner with some sugar, mustard, and other articles—she gave me a half-crown, and I gave her 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I saw it was bad, but did not tell her so—I placed it on the side of the desk, and my husband took possession of it in the even
<lb/>ing—on 7th May my assistant Arney called me into the shop and gave me a bad florin—the prisoner was there, and I said to her., "Are you aware this is a bad two-shilling piece"—she said "If it is, my husband gave it to me"—I said "You are the person who passed a bad half-crown on the 19th or 20th February, and gave her in custody with the florin and half-crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Although I knew the half crown was bad I gave her the full change, making no remark, though she remained ten minutes talking about the cat, which I thought was to draw off my attention—I am not quite sure that I saw her in my shop before February 19th, but I am certain I have seen her face either in the shop or in the neighbourhood—I did not see her between February and May—I think it was light when she came on 7th May—there was no gas alight.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not tell her it was bad, because we had taken bad money before, and my husband told me if anybody gave me bad money to put it on one side and enter into conversation with them and try to find out who it was—the assistant had just left the shop, but he came in directly afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-83" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-83" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-83" type="surname" value="ARNET"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-83" type="given" value="ARTHUR MONTAGUE"/>ARTHUR MONTAGUE ARNET</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Buist—on 7th May I was alone in the shop—the prisoner came in for one ounce of tea and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of blacking, which came to 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she handed me a bad florin, and I called Mr. Buist's attention to it, who was in the parlour—I knew the pri
<lb/>soner's face about the neighbourhood, but cannot say whether I had seen her in the shop before—Mr. Buist asked her if she was aware that it was bad—she said that if it was her husband had given it to her—Mr. Buist said that she passed a half-crown before—I had broken the florin, and the prisoner wanted to have the pieces—I saw them given to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was not called before the magistrate, but I was there.,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-84" type="surname" value="BUIST"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-84" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUIST</persName> </hi>. I am the husband of the first witness—I received a half-crown from her in February, which I wrapped up in paper and put it in a desk to which no one else but she and I had access—I
<hi rend="italic">give</hi> it to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-85" type="surname" value="COOMBER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-85" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COOMBER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 204). I took the prisoner, and received this florin and this half-crown, which Mrs. Buist took out of tissue paper—1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money was found on the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-86" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-86" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-crown and florin are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner received a good character.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1874.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-400-offence-1 t18740608-name-89"/>Charles Messenger Major</persName> and another, their masters.</rs> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WARITER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended George, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Wiggins.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-90" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-90" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD DARBY</persName> </hi>. I am manager to my father, a master cooper, in Cherry tree Passage, Whitechapel—On 12th May, Wiggins came to our premises, and ordered a quarter vine cask—he said "Will you oblige Mr. George with a sherry quarter cask"—we supplied him with one—on the same evening, he came with another man and took the cask away—I was afterwards shown a quarter cask at the Queen's warehouse, and identi
<lb/>fied it as the cask I had sold to Wiggins—it was not sold to Wiggins; it was supplied to George—it was not paid for.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. I was not examined before the Magistrate—this is the first time I have given evidence—the cask was charged to George.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-91" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS POTTER</persName> </hi>. I am an out-door officer of Customs, at the Red Lion and Three Cranes, bonded wharf—on Thursday morning, 14th May, about 7.45, I saw a man coming down Three Cranes Lane, which leads from Thames Street to the wharf—he had a cask on his back or left shoulder, it appeared like a sherry cask—he laid it down by the vault door, and left—I did not ascertain whether there was anything in the cask, I should imagine from the way in which he carried it, that it was empty—the proper hours for opening the bonded warehouse is, 8 o'clock in the summer time; that is the time we usually open at Red Lion Wharf, there being a great number of locks to take off, we generally start before 8 o'clock, so as to get done by 8 o'clock—the place where the cask was put down, is called the Bridge Vaults—there are two storeys to those vaults, the base
<lb/>ment and the first floor, the Crown has one lock on the door and the Customs another—I believe wine was, stored in the basement, inside a kind of cage—and on the first floor there were two compartments, one containing wine and the other spirits, there is an iron door separating them, with a Crown lock and a wharfingers lock on it; there is a door leading into another compart
<lb/>jment where there is a large hole and crane for the delivery of goods—I saw Mr. George in the lane at the time the man brought the cask down—did not notice whether he spoke to the man, I was some distance off—George asked me if I would unlock the door against which the cask was standing—I did so, and he unlocked the Company's lock, and put the cask inside—I may have passed the remark "a racking operation I suppose," and he replied, "Yes"—I don't know whether he said it was a racking operation or whether I did—he then requested me to take the lock off the iron door up stairs—I did so, and left him there—about 4 o'clock that same afternoon, I saw George again by the entrance to the Three Cranes Vaults, on the other side of the lane—he asked me what time I was coming the fol
<lb/>lowing morning—I said at 6 o'clock—the builders were at work there at that time, and they commenced work at 6 o'clock, and it was necessary for me to be there to attend to the locks—George said he should be there early, about 6.30 o'clock—I have been on duty at this wharf, two years—I have never known George come there before at 6.30, not round that side, his usual time was shortly after 8 o'clock—next morning, the 15th, I saw George shortly after 7.30, he came into my office and asked me to take the lock off the wine floor, so that he could get in the Bridge Wine Vaults; he said that he had reported to Mr. Brown that he had</p>
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<p>found a cask, and he really had not looked for it the evening before, and he wanted to get in as soon as he could before Mr. Brown came round, so that he should not be found out in a lie—I did not open the lock at that time, I did when the wharfinger's-constable came, about 7.45, and George went inside—he then asked me to open the door of the brandy vaults, the iron door on the first floor; I did so, and he went inside, I left him there—I afterwards asked him if he had found the cask he was looking for—he said the first cask that he had got his eye upon—at noon that same day Wiggins came to my office—Mr. Cockerell, another locker, was present—Wiggins wanted a lock taken off the spirit place—Cockerell went with him to unlock it—about four o'clock that afternoon I examined the the spirit floor with a lantern—I began at this time to have a suspicion with regard to the cask that it was not right—on examination I found nothing in the shape of a cask in the spirit place—I locked the iron doors, and went into the wine place, and there found it stowed among the tier of wines—I called Cockerell, and pointed it out to him—we ascertained by smell that the cask contained brandy, and was apparently full—I put my initials on it—on Saturday the 16th I reported to Mr. Hughes, the Surveyor of Customs, and after about 1 o'clock, I kept a watch from the warehouse opposite the vaults for half or three-quarters of an hour, I then saw George come to the door leading to the vaults, the same door that the empty cask went in—he took the company's lock off and stood by the side of the door—I then lost sight of him for a few minutes—I then saw Wiggins go in at that door with Pechell, one of the labourers—I then saw a van drive down and George standing by the tail of the van, apparently speaking to Wedge, the driver—the van then went lower down the lane and came round under the loop-hole—Wedge went on to the floor, and came down and said to George that the lock was on—George said "Go for the locker"—Wiggins left, and came back again with Cockerell—they went in at the door—about a minute or two afterwards I saw Wiggins rolling the cask along to the loop
<lb/>hole under the crane, and Pechell with him, the hooks were then hooked on to it, and then it was lowered into the van—George was standing by the van at the time—I could not catch the words that passed, but apparently he was hurrying them along just as he would on an ordinary occasion—he apparently spoke to the men at the loop-hole—I had given Cockerell instructions to call, the surveyor when he took the lock off—I went down into the lane, the van was just about starting—I stopped it, and spoke to Wedge, he produced this paper to me—it is not usual to remove brandy without an order from the Customs—Mr. Hughes, the surveyor, was then present—I seized the cask—Mr. Major was sent for, the cask was examined, and was found to contain brandy—someone, Mr. Brown, I think, asked me what it was all about—I told him to ask Mr. George, he knew all about it, he had just delivered it—I then gave George into custody for the illegal delivery without payment of duty—I told Wiggins that I gave him in custody for assisting in the illegal delivery of a cask of brandy; and Pechell being there, I said "And you too"—Pechell said "I am only a labourer act
<lb/>ing under orders"—I don't think Wiggins made any reply, but wanted to go and get his coat, he said to Pechell "Don't go"—the four were taken to the station, and the cask to the Queen's warehouse, and was pointed out to Darby.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>. I have been an officer of Customs twenty-two years—I have known George holding a responsible position there for two</p>
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<p>years, when I joined the station, I have heard he has been there a considerable number of years—what he was given into custody for was smuggling—I had not the slightest idea of any theft—I am not a practical guager, but I know the general system of guaging and sampling, I suppose the consign
<lb/>nees are satisfied if they have the average which the pipes yield—in sampling there are remnants left—they would not amount to a considerable quantity in the course of a month or six months—I never heard of those remnants being considered perquisites—this paper is not a Customs order—I have never delivered anything out on such an order—it is not usual as a rule to remove brandy in wine casks.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I always understood that George held a superior position, a kind of foreman—I should suppose the labourers would be under his orders—I believe Wiggins was a ganger and Pechell a labourer—I don't know what their wages were—Pechell was taken before the Magistrate, and discharged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I never heard of 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of brandy as a perquisite.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-92" type="given" value="JOHN ROBERTSON"/>JOHN ROBERTSON COCKERELL</persName> </hi>. I am a Customs officer, stationed at this wharf—on Friday, the 15th, Potter showed me a cask on the wine floor—I saw him put his initials on it, it was full—next day about noon, Wiggins came to me at the office, and wanted me to open the door leading into the vaults, I did so—George was there, and he said "Be quick," or "You are very slow"—George was in the street close by the van.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-93" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-93" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-93" type="surname" value="FAYLE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-93" type="given" value="SAMUEL JOHN"/>SAMUEL JOHN FAYLE</persName> </hi>. I am a carman in College Street, Doctor's Com
<lb/>mons—on 16th May, about 12.30, Wiggins came to me; he said that there was a quarter cask going down to Parkin's, at Limehouse, and how much would I charge for taking it down—I said 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he said "All right, be as quick as you can, because it has to be away by 1 o'clock"—I directed Wedge to go with the van—and I afterwards went down myself—I saw George at the top of the lane, and he said the cask was for him, and he would go down to the Three Cranes, and hurry it off as he had other goods going to the dock, he said the order was down at the Three Cranes, and it was all clear for delivery—I am quite sure he said that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Gross-examnied by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. The prosecutors are in the habit almost daily of hiring my carts for their own use.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-94" type="surname" value="WEDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-94" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEDGE</persName> </hi>. I am carman to Mr. Fayle—I went with the van to take a quarter cask—George gave me this paper as a direction where to take it (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi> "Nixon & Co., Crown and Anchor, Brook Street, Radcliff, please receive one quarter for bottling, and lay up for J. S. Smith") I after
<lb/>wards gave that to Mr. Potter.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-95" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-95" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-95" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-95" type="given" value="GEORGE THOMAS"/>GEORGE THOMAS BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am superintendent of the prosecutors vaults—I have the whole control of the vaults—George was foreman cooper under me, his wages were 36
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—Wiggins was a labourer, his wages were 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week lately; he had 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. some little time ago, but he got drunk, and I struck 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. off; he was what we term, a front headman, he had three or four labourers under him, Pechell, would be obliged to obey his directions—I first employed Wiggins for one day, in November, 1869, and I have known him since that time—to the best of my belief, this paper is Wiggin's writing—I have some of his writing in my pocket—George had no authority from the firm to order an empty cask, he would have no authority to receive a cask, if he saw a man with an empty cask, he would send him to the proper man, at the reguaging-place, in Thames Street, it would not be right to take it to the door of the Bridge Vaults, before going to Thames</p>
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<p>Street, we had no orders for racking at that time, at that place—he would have no authority to deliver brandy in any case—there was no such order as this for Nixon, of Brook Street, Ratcliff.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>. I never heard of perquisites such as have been suggested—I never knew of casks being made up by remnants taken from sampling—This brandy is identified as having come from pack
<lb/>ages in which we discovered loss—We suspected that the brandy in the quarter cask was a mixture.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. Wiggins was a front head man, or ganger and had three or four men under his charge—Pechell's wages were 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each day he was wanted—Wiggins was a permanent man, always employed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-96" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-96" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-96" type="surname" value="NEEDHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-96" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS NEEDHAM</persName> </hi>. I am delivery foreman at this wharf—According to the practice a delivery order marked "clear of customs" should be brought to me when anything is going out, and I should enter it in a book—All the delivery orders are sent into the general office every evening—I am not aware that racking operations are allowed without an order; that is the general rule—I did not receive any delivery order on the. 16th May for racking a quarter cask of brandy—Neither of the prisoners had authority from me to deliver any wines or spirits on that Saturday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-97" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-97" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-97" type="surname" value="MAJOR"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-97" type="given" value="CHARLES MESSENGER"/>CHARLES MESSENGER MAJOR</persName> </hi>. I am one of the prosecutors—This paper is not a delivery order—I knew nothing of Nixon and Co., until this trial—There was no authority for the delivery of brandy in a wine cask in this way.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>. I think I can identify this brandy, I think it is a mixture of brandies—We have no such brandy in any one cask, but we have in five or six which have been compared by the Customs—we found deficiencies in several casks that would not arise from guaging or sampling, we did not know the extent of the deficiencies till the Customs went through the stock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-98" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-98" type="given" value="GEORGE THOMAS"/>GEORGE THOMAS BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">He-examined</hi>). Directly the prisoners were given in charge I went into the vaults and noticed that bungs had been taken out of several casks, I put a mark on those casks directly, since then stock has been taken by the Custom House Officers and there is an extra deficiency beyond the Crown allowance in those particular casks of rather more than 27 gallons—This brandy has been tasted and tested by two gentlemen in the trade specially called in—I know a little about brandy, I tasted the samples after they had been drawn and I have no doubt at all it is the same brandy.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I don't know that I could swear to it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-99" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-99" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am an Examining Officer of Customs—I was present when the cask of brandy was seized and the prisoners given into custody—I have since guaged the brandy in that cask, there is 27 gallons and four
<lb/>tenths—The duty is 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a gallon, the value duty paid would be about £1 a gallon—The cask is now in the Queen's warehouse, I have a sample.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-100" type="surname" value="NIXON"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-100" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN NIXON</persName> </hi>. I keep the Crown and Anchor, Brook-street. Ratcliff, in conjunction with Joseph Longhurst—I did not send an empty quarter cask to the prosecutor's wharf on 14th May, or any other day, I don't give direc
<lb/>tions to have brandy delivered at the Crown and Anchor—this paper is not my writing, I have never seen it before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-101" type="surname" value="LONGHURST"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-101" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES LONGHURST</persName> </hi>. I carry on business with Mr. Nixon—I did not au
<lb/>thorise this paper to be written nor had I any brandy at the prosecutor's wharf.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-102" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC RIDLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a wine and spirit tester and a wine and spirit merchant—I have tested the samples submitted to me by Mr. Brown, as having been taken from four or five casks at the wharf and compared it with a sample from the sherry cask, and I say that the two things are identical.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>. Mr. Brown supplied me with particul
<lb/>ars of the extra deficiencies on certain casks of brandy—I then made up a sample in proportions from those casks and compared that with the sample taken from the sherry cask—I found not only that the quality corresponded but I also tested it by the hydrometer—I found the strength the same.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WIGGINS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-400-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a previous conviction in November</hi>, 1866.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-400-18740608 t18740608-400-punishment-16"/>Eighteen Months Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GOODMAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence. After the case had commenced, the prisoner stated he would</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEAD GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Jury accordingly found him</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-401-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<hi rend="italic">
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<p>403.
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<interp inst="def1-403-18740608" type="age" value="17"/>
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<interp inst="def1-403-18740608" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE HARRIS</hi> (17)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18740608-403-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-403-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Feloniously wounding
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-107" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-107" type="surname" value="CULVER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-107" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-403-offence-1 t18740608-name-107"/>Elizabeth Culver</persName>-house, with intent to do her grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-108" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-108" type="surname" value="CULVERHOUSE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-108" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH CULVERHOUSE</persName> </hi>. I am married, and live in Atwell Yard, Uxbridge—on the afternoon of 5th May I went out into my back yard, I saw two militia men in' the next yard—the prisoner was one of them—they were firing up in the air—I said you are enough to frighten anyone to death; you know you could get reported for this—they said nothing—the prisoner did something to his gun which I did not take notice of, I stooped down to wring out some clothes, and he pointed his gun through some palings and fired at me—they were lath palings, I could not see over them—I could see through them; they were a distance apart—he put his rifle through; I could see about half of it—I was hit in the side of the neck and ace—I bled very much—it did not knock me down—I did not know where I was for some minutes—I went in doors and sent for a doctor.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was two or three minutes after I said they might be reported that I was shot—I was standing close to my door when I first spoke to them, I then walked a few steps further on, and then stooped down—here are no flowers or creepers up the palings—the other man went in doors when he had fired off his rifle; he fired his off up in the air—they had been out to drill just before—they had been billeted there about two months—I only knew the prisoner by his speaking to me, and my not answering him—they had fired off their rifle once before—there was no shot—there are fields at the back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-109" type="surname" value="PERRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-109" type="given" value="JOHN SPENCER"/>JOHN SPENCER PERRIS</persName> </hi>, M.R.C.S. I was called in on 5th May to attend the prosecutor—I found her bleeding from the side of the face and neck—found pellets of powder embedded, not in separate grains—they went into he skin; some are remaining there now—it was not a dangerous injury.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was a blank cartridge—the pellets are blown to pieces.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-110" type="surname" value="MOWER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-110" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MOWER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman X</hi> 220). I took the prisoner into custody—he said he did not do it with intent to hurt the woman—I examined the palings</p>
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<p>and the spot, she pointed out where she stood, it was a distance of 10 feet—the fence is 6 feet high—the bars are 4 inches apart—I could see through easily.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate:</hi> "I am innocent—I did not see the woman when I shot, and I did not put the gun through the railings."</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-403-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-403-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="lesserOffence"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of unlawfully wounding</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-403-18740608 t18740608-403-punishment-19"/>One Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>404.
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<interp inst="def1-404-18740608" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-404-18740608" type="age" value="46"/>
<interp inst="def1-404-18740608" type="surname" value="WORCESTER"/>
<interp inst="def1-404-18740608" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS WORCESTER</hi> (46)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18740608-404-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-404-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Feloniously forging and uttering an order for the payment of 251., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-112" type="surname" value="DAWSON"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-112" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DAWSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective C</hi>). I knew Paul Stone—he was examined as a witness before the Magistrate—I was present—the prisoner was there, and had an opportunity of cross-examining him—I saw him dead last Thursday—I saw the prisoner write at Marlborough Street Station, and, to the best of my belief, these four documents are in the same writing—one is a cheque for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of James Ashbury, another for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., with the same signature, and an I. 0. U. for 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and a letter.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The deposition of Paul Stone was read as follows</hi>: "I live at 2, the Mews, York Terrace, Regent Park, I am a cab-driver—on Friday, 1st May, the prisoner hired my cab about six o'clock at night to drive to Knightsbridge and other places—he went to an eating-house and remained a short time—when he came out he showed me the paper produced, and said "The land
<lb/>lord won't change this cheque; have you got any silver?"—I said "I have only 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. "—he said "I want 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. "—I said "I have no more"—I lent him the 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he ordered me to the Alhambra, and I drove him to the Hotel Provence, Leicester Square—he went in and remained about a quarter of an hour—he came out and said "Take this to Coutts' Bank in the Strand, and get it cashed;" and I was to take it to the Grosvenor Hotel and give it to Miss Barnes—I left him—next morning I took the cheque to Messrs. Coutts', and they kept it—the prisoner never paid me."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>. I saw the prisoner write the morning before going before the Magistrate—he asked me for paper so that he might write down his defence to refresh his memory—I gave it him, and he was writing nearly three-quarters of an hour at the table—I was sitting at the table and saw him writing—I did not look over him rudely, and saw the writing after
<lb/>wards—I am able to speak positively to his writing from what I saw there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-113" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-113" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-113" type="surname" value="MULLENS"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-113" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD MULLENS</persName> </hi>. I am solicitor to the Banker's Association—I produce the cheque referred to in Stone's deposition for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I received this letter from Mr. Neale at the Police Court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-114" type="surname" value="BRADLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-114" type="given" value="JAMES JOHN"/>JAMES JOHN BRADLEY</persName> </hi>. I am in the employ of Coutts and Co.—Mr. Ashbury has no account there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-115" type="surname" value="NICHOLLS"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-115" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS NICHOLLS</persName> </hi>. I am head porter at the Grosvenor Hotel—there was no lady named Barnes stopping there about 1st or 2nd May—we never had anyone in our employ of that name—this lady was supposed to be in the office—I have not got our book with me—I have seen the prisoner at the hotel, twice I think—he said things were coming for him—things did come, but we did not take them in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-116" type="surname" value="NEALE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-116" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS NEALE</persName> </hi>. I am secretary to Mr. Ashbury—he resides at 6, Eastern Terrace, Brighton—I have looked at the signature to those two pieces of paper, they are not his handwriting—I received a letter from Mr. Ashbury, which I handed to Mr. Mullens—it is not true that I promised the prisoner any money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-117" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-117" type="surname" value="CROOK"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-117" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY CROOK</persName> </hi>. I live at West End, Brighton—I have known the pri
<lb/>soner a year last November—about the 14th March this year he was</p>
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<p>indebted to me to the extent of about 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on that day he handed me this piece of paper (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "Eastern Terrace, March 12th, 1872. Please to pay to Mr. J. Worcester the sum of 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. London and County Bank. James Ashbury ")—he asked me to take care of the cheque whilst he went into the country—he said "I want some money on it," and I lent him 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he came to me on the following day and asked for money on the cheque, and I then lent him 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and after that I also lent him some further small sums—he said that Mr. Ashbury had given the cheque to him—he said I was not to present the cheque at all, but I was to keep it until he returned from the country—while he was away I received a letter from him containing this I O U (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: Brighton, April 2nd, 1874. I O U the sum of 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. value received and cash. Thomas Worcester, 69, Middle Street, Brighton")—I parted with my money to him because he said he wished to pay for his lodgings; his landlady would not let him leave with
<lb/>out—I believed the cheque to be genuine, and that Mr. Ashbury had given it to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-118" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-118" type="surname" value="OAKLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-118" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM OAKLEY</persName> </hi>. I live at Taunton—I am acquainted with the pri
<lb/>soner's handwriting—I have examined these documents, and I have no doubt that they are in the prisoner's handwriting. (
<hi rend="italic">A letter, dated House of Detention, 15th May</hi>, 1874,
<hi rend="italic">from the prisoner to James Ashbury, Esq., was put in and read. It requested that Mr. Ashbury would take a favourable view of the case, and stated that he had been put to some trouble and expense on his behalf at the Brighton election, for which he had not received a penny, and asking that something might be done for him now.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner, in his defence, stated that when he gave the cheque to Mrs. Crook he told her to put it in her cash box, as he believed it was worthless, that she wrote him a letter saying that if he did not return she should present the cheque, and he then sent her the I O U for that he did not gain a penny on the cheque, and had no recollection of signing it.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-404-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-404-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been before convicted in August</hi>, 1871,
<hi rend="italic">at Somerset**</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-404-18740608 t18740608-404-punishment-20"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1874.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>405.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLOTTE CULLUM</hi> (18)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18740608-405-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to unlaw
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment Respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>406.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM JOHNSON</hi> (15)</persName>, and
<persName id="def2-406-18740608" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-406-18740608" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-406-18740608" type="age" value="17"/>
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<interp inst="def2-406-18740608" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN CLARK</hi> (17)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18740608-406-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-406-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, to stealing two shoes, the goods of
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-122" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-122" type="surname" value="RIDDINGTON"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-122" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-406-offence-1 t18740608-name-122"/>Thomas Riddington</persName>.</rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHNSON</hi>*—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18740608-406-punishment-22" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-406-18740608 t18740608-406-punishment-22"/>One Month,</rs>
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<interp inst="t18740608-406-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-406-punishment-23" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="otherInstitution"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-406-18740608 t18740608-406-punishment-23"/>and Three Years in a Reformatory.</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CLARK</hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18740608-406-punishment-24" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18740608-406-punishment-24" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-406-punishment-24" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-406-18740608 t18740608-406-punishment-24"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> And
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<interp inst="t18740608-406-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<p>407.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY CLINTON</hi> (17)</persName>, and
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<interp inst="def2-407-18740608" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-407-18740608" type="age" value="15"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WALTER KELLY</hi> (15)</persName>
<rs id="t18740608-407-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WALTER KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>
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<interp inst="t18740608-407-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to feloniously forging and uttering a cheque for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with intent to defraud.</rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CLINTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HUGH ARMSTRONG</hi> (23)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18740608-408-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-408-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Feloniously cutting and wounding
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PLATT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-127" type="surname" value="MOON"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-127" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MOON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman R</hi> 281). On 30th April I saw Romer, the prosecutor, come out of the Bremen Flag in St. George's Street—the prisoner followed him out, and made a stroke at his right side—I had not seen Romer do anything to him—he went down on his hands and knees,</p>
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<hi rend="italic">done</hi> it, and I will do it again; here is the knife I
<hi rend="italic">done</hi> it with," handing me this knife (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from his pocket—I took him to the station, he had been drinking, but was not drunk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> Did you see the knife in my hand?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; several people were round, but I was very close to you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-128" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-128" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-128" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL WREFORD</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at the London Hospital—Romer was brought in on 30th April, and I found an incised wound on the left side of his abdomen three-quarters of an inch long, but not very deep, and a slight scratch on his left shoulder—I did not probe the wound, but I think it penetrated the abdominal cavity—it might have been very dangerous, and he will have to wear a belt for some time—this knife would inflict it—he was twenty days in the hospital.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prosecutor did not appear, having gone to sea.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> He won a little money of me and wanted me to lend him some more. I said I had not got any. One word brought on another, and he wanted me to fight and pulled his jacket off. I tried to go out the back way, but could not; and when I came back he was standing at the door with the knife in his hand. As I was taking it away from him we both fell, and that is how he got cut. When I struck him on the arm there was no knife in my hand.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-129" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MOON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). The prisoner's hand was bleeding from a scratch on the top of one of his fingers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">
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<p>409.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS HARDING</hi> (31)</persName>
<rs id="t18740608-409-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18740608-409-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-409-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing one truck and fifteen hundred-weight of iron, the property of
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-131" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-409-offence-1 t18740608-name-131"/>William Bruce</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BRINDLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-132" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SHEARMAN</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Edmund Burn, of Nichol Square, Cripplegate—I have seen a truck which stands in Mr. Bruce's yard, Red Cross Street—I saw it on 9th May opposite the prisoner's door in Red Lion Market empty; one wheel was broken, and part of the wheel was missing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Mr. Bruce, the builder's yard was three minutes' walk from Mr. Burns', but not in the same street—I had seen the truck safe three days before—it had our name on the side of it—there are houses on each side of the prisoner's, or a wall, I will not swear which—his house is right in the corner—I know it is his, because I have seen his wife and children there and spoke to his wife—the truck was not as much opposite the next house as opposite the prosecutor's—it was in the corner touching the prisoner's house; it had been driven past the door into the corner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-133" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BURK</persName> </hi>. My father is a coke hawker, of 44, Golden Lane—on 4th May, about 7 p.m., I was driving his cart in Golden Lane and saw the prisoner with a broken truck with some iron in it—he asked me to bring the truck round to Red Lion Market, and I did so, and left the prisoner with it and the iron it—they were taken out of my van there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had seen the prisoner before, but am not an acquaint
<lb/>ance of his—two strangers were present at the conversation—I never asked him where he got the truck and the iron, I thought he dealt in iron, and that it was his own, as I have seen him jobbing about with old iron before; carrying it on his shoulder—I did not speak to him then—that was two</p>
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<p>months before; and that was the only time I have seen him carrying iron—the prisoner and some chaps assisted in taking the iron out of my van at the market.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-134" type="given" value="MARTIN"/>MARTIN MCDONNOUGH</persName> </hi>. I am a wheelwright, of 10, Red Lion Market, Upper White Cross Street—the prisoner lives there in the corner—on 4th May, about 7.15, I saw the prisoner in Red Lion Market with the van, in which he had a broken-down truck—he asked me if I would buy it—I asked him how much he wanted for it—he said "10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. "—I went in and got the money, and when I came out again he had got it out of the van—he said that he bought it at a sale—the side was very dirty—I rubbed the dirt off, and saw Mr. Burn's name on it, and gave information—I told the prisoner so, and he said "It belongs to me; I can sell it in the market and get 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Burk was present at the conversation—these things are sold at sales when they get worn out—it very much wanted repair, and was just the kind of thing that would be sold, as it was of no use to the owners—I knew him about the market, and thought he had come by it honestly.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-135" type="surname" value="USHER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-135" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS USHER</persName> </hi>. I am an iron merchant, of 258, Old Street, St. Luke's—on Monday evening, 4th May, the prisoner came to my house with the truck, and about 5 cwt. of iron—I bought the iron of him at 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. per owt.—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is a portion of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I bought it as old iron, and it is old iron—it is sold in great quantities at sales and auctions.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-136" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-136" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-136" type="surname" value="NICHOLSON"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-136" type="given" value="WM"/>WM. NICHOLSON</persName> </hi>. I am an iron dealer, of 3, Nag's Head Court—on 4th May the prisoner came to my place with 4 3/4 cwt. of old iron, which I bought for 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I have bought of him before—there was a piece of an iron grating among it, which I gave up to the police.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He is in the habit of attending sales, and buying there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-137" type="surname" value="BRUCE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-137" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BRUCE</persName> </hi>. I am a builder, of 52, Red Cross Street—three of Mr. Burn's trucks stood in my yard—the iron and the truck were both in my yard on Thursday morning, 4th May, at 11 o'clock—on the Tuesday I missed about 15 cwt. of iron, value about 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not go to the yard on Monday, but it was missed that day—I identify this iron column and grating.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw the truck at 8 o'clock in the morning, and again at 11 o'clock—I don't know that there were three that morning but there generally are three—I saw one with a broken handle safe—that is the one in question—the iron was kept 30 or 40 yards from the trucks, and it was on Monday morning—from 5 to 7 cwt. were left—I lost an iron column three months ago, since when I have looked after it very carefully.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-138" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN WHITMORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 238). I took the prisoner on the Monday evening, and told him the charge—he made no reply—I found 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-139" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). On 5th May, after the prisoner was in custody, I went to his house, and at the back of it I found part of a wheel and the tyre; I have compared it with the wheel, and it fits.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was in a yard at the back of the house where his wife was, and he gave his address there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>: "I plead guilty to it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. AUSTIN METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-142" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DURELL</persName> </hi>. I am a bus maker, in my father's employ, at 4 and 5, Church Row, Aldgate—I have known the prisoner two years, as a labourer—on 30th May I went to the workshop at about 6.45 a.m., and the prisoner came to the door and said, "Will you take care of a sack for me?"—I said "Yes"—I went out, and saw the sack in the passage of the next house—Mr. Goldsmith's premises are about 100 yards off—I fetched the sack into our workshop—a detective spoke to me, and I was taken in custody and afterwards discharged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-143" type="surname" value="KREMM"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-143" type="given" value="JACOB"/>JACOB KREMM</persName> </hi>. I am a tailor, of 4, Church Row—on 30th May, about 5.30 a.m., I was looking out at my window, and saw a man going in at a door with a bag on his shoulder—I could not see his face—the prisoner followed him into the passage—I went down, and looked at what was in the bag—he said "It is a nice morning"—I said "Yes"—I did not see him touch the sack afterwards—it was a stout man who carried the sack; a bigger man than Durell—I don't know the man—the prisoner was 3 or 4 yards from him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I spoke to him and cleaned the place down. I had a broom in my hand, and swept it by the governor's orders.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-144" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MITCHEL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 30th May, at a little after 6 o'clock, I was on duty in Church Row, Aldgate, and saw a sack lying in the passage of No. 4—I watched it about an hour, and saw Durell go into the passage, take the sack by the neck, and pull it into a room on the ground floor, which is used as a workshop—in consequence of something he said, I went to Mr. Thiers, the prisoner's master, and found the prisoner there—I told him I should apprehend him for stealing a sack of oats, and that Durell said that he had met him that morning, and told him he would find a sack of oats in the passage, and would he take care of it for him—he said that he knew nothing at all about it—I took him to the station, where Durell was in custody—he said "That is the man who told me to take care of the oats"—Durell was discharged the same morning, and made evidence of.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I told the detective that I knew nothing about it; I had not been out of the yard.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-145" type="surname" value="GOLDSMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-145" type="given" value="LAMBERT"/>LAMBERT GOLDSMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a master carman—my premises are at Mr. Thiers' yard—I recognise this sack; it was kept in my loft—I saw it on the Friday evening, and this was on Saturday—the prisoner works opposite me—my loft was fastened up the night before—I gave no one authority to move the sack—it was full of oats.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What is the prisoner's character?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have known him ever since I was a child, and always thought him an honest upright man; he was coachman to Mr. Solomons, the Common Councilman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I know nothing about it. Mr. Goldsmith has known me from a boy, and I have never been locked up in my life.</p>
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<p>411.
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<interp inst="def1-411-18740608" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-411-18740608" type="age" value="16"/>
<interp inst="def1-411-18740608" type="surname" value="UNDERWOOD"/>
<interp inst="def1-411-18740608" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE UNDERWOOD</hi> (16)</persName>,
<persName id="def2-411-18740608" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-411-18740608" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-411-18740608" type="age" value="22"/>
<interp inst="def2-411-18740608" type="surname" value="BUNCHER"/>
<interp inst="def2-411-18740608" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM BUNCHER</hi> (22)</persName>, and
<persName id="def3-411-18740608" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def3-411-18740608" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def3-411-18740608" type="age" value="23"/>
<interp inst="def3-411-18740608" type="surname" value="MACKAY"/>
<interp inst="def3-411-18740608" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD MACKAY</hi> (23)</persName>
<rs id="t18740608-411-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18740608-411-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-411-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Unlawfully attempting to steal a watch, the property of
<persName id="t18740608-name-149" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-149" type="surname" value="SALTER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-149" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-411-offence-1 t18740608-name-149"/>John Salter</persName>,</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. W. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Buncher.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-150" type="surname" value="DOWNS"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-150" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK DOWNS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On Saturday night, 30th May, about 10.30, I was with Halse and Mitchell, two detectives, in front of Broad Street railway-station, and saw the three prisoners there following a lady—</p>
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<p>they then went together to Moorgate Street station, where they followed a gentleman, and at the corner of Circus Place, Underwood got in front of the gentleman—Buncher was about 10 yards ahead of him, and Mackay a short distance behind him—a policeman on the beat then came round, and they all went to Moorgate Street railway-station a second time—it was then 10.45 or 10.50—they followed a gentleman in a similar manner, and then went up Moorgate Street and remained there till about 11.40—I saw the prosecutor and a lady come out of the station—the three prisoners followed them—Underwood ran ahead, and went to the corner of Great Bell Alley—Buncher went through a court, and got to the other end of the alley by Coleman Street—Mackay followed the lady and gentleman behind, and when they were at the corner of Great Bell Alley, Buncher whistled, and Underwood went to the corner of the next turning, 12 or 14 yards further on, and immediately the gentleman got to the turning, Underwood sprang at his breast, but I could not see what he did—the gentleman placed his hand on his breast, and one of the officers knocked Underwood down—I saw Mackay go over to the other side of the road—I took him in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Buncher gave me a correct address—I did not see him do anything to the gentleman—all I say is that he was in company with the others, and he whistled just before Underwood sprang at the gentleman—he neither assaulted or interfered with the gentleman in any way—the robbery was not committed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-151" type="surname" value="HALSE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-151" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL HALSE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). I was with Downs—I have heard his evidence—he has given a correct account—we followed the prisoners from 10.30 till 11.45, when they were in Moorgate Street, following a lady and gentleman—Buncher went in front, and Underwood went and stood at the corner of King's Arms Yard—I heard a whistle from Bell Alley, and Underwood made a snatch at the gentleman's watch chain—I pushed him down, and said "Give me that watch"—he said "I have not got it"—I said "You will be charged with two others with attempting to steal a watch and chain"—he said "I have not been with any men, but some man pushed me up against a gentleman; I have been by myself since I left home"—I took him to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw Buncher go into Bell Alley, and heard a whistle from Bell Alley—I did not see Buncher at the time of the whistle.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-152" type="surname" value="MITCHELL"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-152" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MITCHELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On Saturday night, 30th May, I was with Downs and Halse—I have heard Downs' evidence; it is correct—I saw Buncher come out of the court and give three whistles—Underwood then sprang at the gentleman's breast—I took Buncher 10 or 15 yards from the spot, and told him that the other two were in custody—he said "I know nothing of them."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-153" type="surname" value="SALTEE"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-153" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SALTEE</persName> </hi>. I am a coppersmith, of 40, Bell and Anchor Cottages, Victoria Docks—on 30th May, about 11.45 at night, I left Moorgate Street station with my niece—Underwood came up to me in Moorgate Street, gave me a push, snatched at my chain, and broke it—I put up my hand, and saved my watch—the officers
<hi rend="italic">collared</hi> Underwood immediately.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Underwood's Defence.</hi> I had no intention of stealing his watch. My hand caught the man's chain, and broke it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Mackay's Defence.</hi> The police did not see me touch the gentleman. I was across the road, and had nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18740608-411-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18740608-411-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-411-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">UNDERWOOOD</hi>**
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BUNCHER</hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18740608-411-punishment-29" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18740608-411-punishment-29" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-411-punishment-29" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-411-18740608 t18740608-411-punishment-29"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-411-18740608 t18740608-411-punishment-29"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment each.</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MACKAY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18740608-411-punishment-30" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18740608-411-punishment-30" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-411-punishment-30" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-411-18740608 t18740608-411-punishment-30"/>Nine Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18740608-412" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18740608"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-412" type="date" value="18740608"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18740608-412-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-412-18740608 t18740608-412-offence-1 t18740608-412-verdict-1"/>
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<p>412.
<persName id="def1-412-18740608" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-412-18740608" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-412-18740608" type="age" value="23"/>
<interp inst="def1-412-18740608" type="surname" value="MIDWINTER"/>
<interp inst="def1-412-18740608" type="given" value="WALTER JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WALTER JAMES MIDWINTER</hi> (23)</persName>
<rs id="t18740608-412-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18740608-412-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-412-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="other"/>,. Unlawfully making a false declaration before a Marriage Registrar.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEASLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-155" type="surname" value="MESSER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-155" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY MESSER</persName> </hi>. I am Registrar of Marriages for the district of Islington—I produce a notice signed by the prisoner in my presence and attested by me—I received the information from the prisoner, who said that the marriage was to be solemnized by license. (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st April, giving notice to the Registrar that a marriage was intended to be held by license within three months, between the defendant, W. S. Midwinter, bachelor, aged twenty-six, and Laura Tomlin, spinster, of 5, Campbell Terrace, aged seventeen years; and it stated:</hi>" I hereby solemnly declare that I believe there is no impediment or hindrance of kindred or alliance or other lawful hindrance to the said marriage; and I further declare that the consent of Emma Tomlin, whose consent to this marriage is required by law, has been duly given and obtained thereto.") I posted that notice to the Superintendent Registrar, and on that a license to marry would issue—this is the license (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—an appointment was made for the 23rd—I went to the Superintendent Registrar's office, and the defendant did not attend, but he came to my office that day and explained that the lady was ill, and the wedding could not take place—he asked me how long the notice would run; I told him three months, and he went away—I saw him again on 23rd July, when he gave me a fresh notice, which was filled up by my deputy in my presence, and the prisoner read it over and signed it, and said that he wished the marriage to take place two days afterwards, on the 25th—I sent off to the Superintendent Registrar, and was there on the 25th; the young lady was there, and the marriage was solemnised by me—this is the register (
<hi rend="italic">pro
<lb/>duced</hi>)—it is the original entry of the marriage, filled up by me, and signed by the defendant. (
<hi rend="italic">This certified the marriage of the prisoner and Laura Tomlin, on 25th July</hi>, 1872,
<hi rend="italic">and was signed by the parties in the presence of Catherine Hicks and Jane Goodwin.</hi>) Catherine Hicks is the daughter of the Registrar, and Jane Goodwin is his servant—they brought no witnesses with them—it is signed by me and by the Superintendent—a printed caution relating to marriages is hung up in the office—I saw the prisoner write on three occasions—these two letters, dated 7th August and 28th September, 1873, are in his writing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I knew nothing of the parties—the filling up of the first declaration in April is in my writing—I asked the ordinary questions—I understood by the word "guardian "anybody who was a trustee or any person appointed guardian—I do not know that you can only appoint a guardian to an infant by petitioning the Court of Chancery—he said that she was trustee under the will, and he explained that she was the step-mother—I took it from the prisoner's lips that she was the guardian—I knew that the father was dead—the second notice was not copied word for word from the first, for the first was sent away, and was in the Registrar's custody—it follows the printed form exactly, putting in Emma Tomlin—I do not see Mrs. Midwinter in court; I can see her sister sitting by a gentleman—Mrs. Midwinter is not sitting by her sister.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I saw that the young lady was under age—the prisoner gave me the name of her guardian for me to fill in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-156" type="surname" value="HICKS"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-156" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HICKS</persName> </hi>. I am Superintendent Registrar for Marriages for Islington district—I issued these two licenses on the two notices produced—the mar
<lb/>riage</p>
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<p>took place on 25th July, in my office—my daughter and servant were the witnesses—when the prisoner brought me the second notice he asked me whether the fees would have to be paid over again, I asked him why the marriage had not come off: he said that it was through the illness of the young lady and that he must pay the stamp.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I made them happy without, a double fee.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-157" type="surname" value="COX"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-157" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD COX</persName> </hi>. I am a law stationer of 102, Chancery Lane—I knew the late William Tomlin and his two daughters, Mrs. Bennett and the young lady Laura—his second wife was Emma Tomlin—he died July, 1866 and left a will by which I am one of the trustees—after his death there was a suit in Chancery to administer the estate—I was one of the plaintiffs, but it was a suit for other purposes—the proceedings were commenced by bill—I produce the probate which says "I appoint my dear wife Emma Tomlin to be guardian of my daughter Laura Tomlin"—the estate is a large one, Laura has from 850
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 900
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year and Mrs. Tomlin as her guardian had charge of her and had 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year for her maintenance as arranged by our
<lb/>selves and supplemented by this order of the Court of Chancery (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—she used to go to school—I first heard of her marriage early last October—her sister's husband Mr. Bennett is one of the parties to the suit—I was not at all aware until I heard of this marriage that any such marriage was contemplated—Laura had I believe bad health—when the marriage was discovered it was communicated to the Court of Chancery.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.—I was an intimate friend of Mr. Tomlin—In the event of Laura dying without issue and unmarried, the whole of her property would go to her sister Mrs. Bennett—it would not benefit Mrs. Tomlin in any way—Mrs. Bennett has not been more active than I have in opposing the prisoner—I did not in September serve a notice on the prisoner—I very likely frightened him away to Jersey—I endorse Mrs. Bennett's acts; I approve of them—I know that Mrs. Bennett was opposed to her sister's marriage.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you say that Laura is in bad health?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have not had an opportunity of seeing her to day, but now that I do see her she is very much flushed and does not look well—I approve of Mr. Bennett's wish to deprive the prisoner of the tenancy by courtesey—I am not aware that the prisoner and Laura ever lived in Jersey except that he was captured there—I am told that his wife came back when he was captured, I have no knowledge of the fact—I do not know anything about the proceedings in Chancery depriving the prisoner of his tenancy by courtesy, all I know is that the Master of the Rolls has directed that such proceedings shall be taken, but the time has not come yet—I have nothing to do with the Mas
<lb/>ter of the Rolls sending him up to Holloway for a few weeks: but as trustee I felt it my duty to call the attention of the Court to the mar
<lb/>riage—I do not want to transfer him to Newgate, I should prefer his being in Holloway as a preferable place of retirement—I never saw him till he was in custody—I know by repute that he was a constant visitor at Mrs. Tomlin's for about a couple of years—I do not believe Mrs. Tomlin has said that they knew one another from the time the girl was 19 months old; she may have said two years or two years and a half—I have never been present at any discussion between Mrs. Tomlin and Mrs. Bennett—I did know of the prisoner's visits to the house and about a week before I knew of the marriage I knew that permission had been given to him to write to</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187406080026"/>
<p>her but not to visit her—I do not recollect getting season tickets for the Crystal Palace for Mr. and Mrs. Midwinter; nothing specific has been called to my attention—I am agent for tickets for the Palace.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-158" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-158" type="surname" value="TOMLIN"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-158" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA TOMLIN</persName> </hi>. I live at 5, Campbell Terrace, Bow—ray husband died in July, 1866—I was left the guardian of Laura, under his will, and she continued to live with me—her age was 17 in May, 1873—she went to school at Kensington, and came home for the vacation in April—she after wards went back to school, and came home again on 19th July—I was away from home on the 14th and 25th July—I left her at home when I went away and found her there when I returned—she continued to live with me till she went back to school—she went to the seaside with me for a month—I first heard that she was married from Mr. Cox in the commencement of October last—I was not at all aware that she was about to be married in April or in July—I had not given my consent to the prisoner marrying her, but I gave my consent to the correspondence—these two letters (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are in the prisoner's writing—Laura left home to go to her sister; and I afterwards heard from Mrs. Bennett that she had gone to Jersey—my family and Midwinter were on very good terms—I have talked to the prisoner of the affairs in Chancery, and of the administration of the estate—Laura was in good health in April, and better still in July, the older she got.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. I have known the defendant two or three years, and for a very long time he was a constant visitor at my house—we all liked him very much; and he used to come frequently—he only stayed there at party times—we were all on very intimate terms with him, and though I never gave arty precise consent to their marriage, I consented to their corresponding—I have said before Laura that I thought he would make a good husband—I looked upon him as if he would make a good son-in-law, if I had been her natural mother, and have expressed myself so more than once.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you discussed the matter with her by correspondence from time to time you are not the one to divide two fond hearts; you would eventually have consented to the matter?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I consider Mr. Midwinter quite equal to the lady he has married—I think Mrs. Bennett would have liked her sister to have waited a little longer; she does not like it—I do not know exactly that the prisoner has 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year of his own from his mother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEGG</hi>. I am one of the trustees under the will—I was first aware of Laura's marriage about 10 o'clock at night on 30th September. I was consulted on the subject, and the matter was reported to the Court of Chancery.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-159" type="surname" value="BUTCHER"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-159" type="given" value="JAMES WALLACE"/>JAMES WALLACE BUTCHER</persName> </hi>. This warrant for the prisoner's arrest (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) was placed in my hands on 19th April—I went to Jersey on 9th May, and found him there—his wife was living with him—I read the warrant to him—he said that he did not think he could be touched in Jersey, and intended to come to England presently and answer to the charge, and no doubt he should plead guilty to it, but he should consult his solicitor.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Mrs. Midwinter came over with her husband—I did not explain the difference between his being attached and sent to the Court of Chancery, and being sent to Holloway Goal.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-160" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-160" type="surname" value="BENNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-160" type="given" value="ESTHER ELIZABETH"/>ESTHER ELIZABETH BENNETT</persName> </hi>. I am a daughter of William Tomlin—I am married to Mr. Bennet—Laura is my sister—I first heard of her marriage on 28th September, 1873—this letter was brought to me in the morning, and from something that occurred I told her that I had it—I thought it right to open it in her presence by her permission—she was living in her</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187406080027"/>
<p>maiden name up to that time—the envelope was addressed in her maiden name to my house—it was in the prisoner's writing—I gave it to my husband, who is one of the trustees.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I married in my father's life time after his second marriage—my father in his life time allowed my husband 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year—I was under age when I married—I got property under the will quite equal to my sister Laura, independent of getting her share if she had died unmarried and without issue—the letter was brought to my bedroom—I did not take it from my sister's box—I mean to say it was not brought to me open after my sister had read it; I opened it by her permission—I would not have opened it without; I had it in my pocket—it arrived by the 8 a.m. post—my husband came up to say good-bye to me, and I told him that there was a letter—he said it was my business to give it to the "trustees or to open it myself—there had been a good deal of trouble, and there had been a meeting the night before, and my mamma wished to give up the guardianship—Midwinter was suspected of loving my sister, and she was suspected of loving him—mamma called a meeting as Laura was so young and so delicate—I have not spoken to my sister to-day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I took the letter out of my pocket and said "Laura, here is a letter, shall I open it or give it to the trustees?—she said "Open it after dinner," and I opened it, and she read it over my shoulder—I gave it to the trustees—(
<hi rend="italic">Read;</hi> "August 7th, 1873. My dear Mrs. Tomlin, I cannot help writing to thank you for telling Laura you would do all in your power to further our wishes. I think it extremely kind of you, and I for one shall never forget it. With regard to my position I can explain it both to you and Mr. Winn's satisfaction. I have not asked to marry Laura, and I must say that I consider all this fuss premature, for as you know we are both young and can afford to wait, but I can explain all this better when I see you. Again thanking you for your kindness, believe me, yours faithfully, W. J. Midwinter.")
<hi rend="italic">The second letter was dated 28th September</hi>, 1873.
<hi rend="italic">It commenced</hi> "My darling wife,"
<hi rend="italic">and was signed</hi> "Your darling and devoted husband, Walter."
<hi rend="italic">It stated</hi> "Darling, why do you blame me for marrying you? when I had a chance, could I help it? Perhaps it would have been better to have waited, but I did not think so then, neither do I now, and I am sorry that you should think so"—"I do not think, darling, that you will have to wait until you are twenty-one. I feel certain I shall be able to succeed in obtaining your guardians' consent before that, unless they are opposed in every way, & co. If you show that you really care for me they will give in"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. You knew that the defendant had been intimate with your family for years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—my sister would not allow us to have any peace whatever, she was very much attached to the defendant—some of the family thought it might end in a marriage soon—I opened the letter, but it was a letter from a young man who had permission to correspond with her; we had a meeting and discussed the question of the courtship; mamma wanted to know where she had been all day, we had had no idea there was anything of the sort going on—the intimacy between them ended in their falling in love, and wanting to get married, and mamma did not like it—having no father, and being much older than she is, I felt deeply interested in her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1874.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-413-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing 61 postage stamps and six pieces of paper, of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-413-offence-1 t18740608-name-162"/>Samuel Smith</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. A. B. KELLY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-163" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>REV. SAMUEL SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in Holy Orders, and chaplain and secretary of the Deaf and Dumb Association, in Oxford Street—I am in the habit as secretary of receiving letters containing postage stamps, and small sums as contributions to the charity, addressed to me at the church, and from time to time I have missed certain of them—I communicated with the post-office, but they failed to find the delinquent, and I employed a detective—on Monday evening, 27th May, I took 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. worth of postage stamps and did them up in three letters—there were thirty in one, eighteen in another, and twelve in another—I saw the letters addressed and I posted them myself—I did not receive those letters in the usual course, on the Tuesday morning—they were missing—in the course of Tuesday, in consequence of something the detective said, I went to the post-office, in South Audley Street, and I saw there the stamps which I had posted myself the night before—in consequence of that I have taken these proceedings.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> A young woman at South Audley Street, showed me the stamps—I asked her if any stamps had been sold, and she showed me those particular stamps—I had not marked them—I had made a memo
<lb/>randum of the letters on the corners of the stamps, but I did not put any mark on by which I could positively identify them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The letters corresponded, and the three bundles together corresponded with the number I had posted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-164" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE URBEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective A</hi>). I was employed to watch the prisoner—on the morning of Tuesday, the 28th May, I was watching the church, and I saw the postman deliver some letters to the prisoner—he took them into the church, and remained about 20 minutes, he came out and put them into the letter box, and left the church—I followed him—he went in the direction of South Audley Street—I missed him and I returned to the church—I then went to the South Audley Street post-office, and was shown certain stamps—I afterwards took the prisoner into custody, he said he knew nothing about it, he had not sold any—I found on him half-a-crown, a shilling, sixpence, and 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I don't know whether the letters the prisoner put into the box were the same that were delivered to him—I did not find any letters or torn envelopes in his pocket.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-165" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH TIPPER</persName> </hi>. I am clerk in charge of the post office in South Audley Street—on Tuesday 28th May, between 9 and 10 o'clock, the prisoner came there and sold me 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. worth of stamps—they were made up in three different parcels—subsequently Mr. Smith and detective came to the post office and I showed them the stamps—they were the only ones I had purchased that morning—I am quite certain the prisoner is the man who sold those stamps.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I identified him at the Marlboro' Street Police Court—I did not express any doubt—I said "Am I right" when I picked him out—when I said that I meant to ask Mr. Smith was he the right person whom he had accused—had I not been certain of his identity, I should not have said he was the man—I was not crying at the Court—I was somewhat</p>
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<p>affected, it was the first time I had ever been called upon to do such a thing.</p>
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<p>414.
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-414-offence-1 t18740608-name-169"/>Civil Service Co-operative Society, Limited,</persName> the masters of Samuel Harrison.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CHARLES MATTHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">AUSTIN METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Samuel and Mary Ann Harrison, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Munns.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-170" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD PARKER</persName> </hi>, (
<hi rend="italic">Detective L</hi>). At 9 o'clock on the night of the 15th May, I was with Detective Dales at Hercules Buildings, Lambeth—I saw the two Harrisons there, each carrying a brown paper parcel—Harrison the man, at that time was not in the uniform of the Corps of Commissionaires, he had the uniform on but he had a coat over it—I followed them some distance up Hercules Buildings and the female prisoner took her parcel into the prisoner Munn's shop—it is a chandler's shop—I saw her go in—I was opposite—she placed the parcel on the counter and immediately Munns took it off the counter and placed it underneath—she came out—she was not in the shop half a minute—Harrison was sitting on the pave
<lb/>ment on his parcel when the woman went into the shop—she joined him when she came out and saw us at the same time—I went over and asked Harrison what he had there—he said "Mind your own business, what is that to do with you"—I said "The female has taken something into the shop, come and see what it is"—I went into the shop and in the presence of the two Harrisons asked Munns what the female had brought in—he said "Nothing"—I said "I saw her place a parcel on the counter and you put it underneath," he lifted the parcel up and said "Yes, she brought a parcel and asked me to take care of it for a short time"—this is the parcel that was delivered to Munns and this is the one upon which Harrison sat (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—they have been opened since—the one upon which Harrison sat contained twenty-four pounds of mustard—the other contained two pounds of tea, fifteen pots of extract of meat and four pots of lobster—I asked Harrison what account he had to give of the goods and where he bought them from—he said he bought them for Munns—Munns made no answer—I told him his answer was not satisfactory and I should take him to the Police Station, which I did, and the two parcels—I went back for Munns afterwards, and when at the station Harrison said he was at the Union Flag public house drinking with Munns and he asked him and his wife to take the parcels over to his shop—Munns said "About eight or nine days previously Harrison came to me and told me he was in difficulties and he had brokers in his house and wanted me to lend him some money, he said he could buy me some goods much cheaper than I could get them myself"—I afterwards went back and searched Munns' house—I found fourteen packets of sperm candles, nine boxes of cigars, three packets of extract of beef, eighteen tins of mustard, twelve tins of swiss milk, and a packet of tea weighing fourteen pounds, done up exactly the same as the one in that parcel—I took those things to" the station and asked Munns if he could account for them in any way, he said he bought the things of people and sometimes he cleared shops, sometimes he had invoices and sometimes he had not—I found no invoices in his shop, nor upon him when I searched him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi> Mr. Metcalfe. It was about 9 o'clock in the evening when</p>
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<p>the female prisoner went into Munns; it was not light—it was light inside the shop—I have no doubt about the two prisoners because I knew them before—I saw the parcel lifted off the counter and placed underneath by Munns—it is a small chandler's shop—there are some goods in the window, cheese and bacon, and that kind of thing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. He sells groceries and that kind of thing—I did not see a file for invoices at all—I only searched in the shop—whether there were any invoices upstairs I can't tell—the parcel that Harrison sat upon never went into the shop at all—the other one was put first on the counter and then underneath—I could see all that passed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-171" type="given" value="SOLOMON"/>SOLOMON DALES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective L</hi>). I know the Harrison's well, and had been watching them with Parker—I saw them come out of the Union Flag—I saw the woman go to Munns's shop and put the goods on the counter, and they were put underneath the counter by Munns—I took Munns to the station—he said "Damn the fellow, I wish I had never seen him; I tried to do him a good turn and get myself into trouble"—Harrison came a short time back and told him that he had got the broker's in the house, and he had lent 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and he had received the goods for it—that was said on the way to the station—when Parker asked him to produce the parcel, at first he said the woman had not brought anything in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. Afterwards he said the woman asked him to take care of the parcel for a short time—I saw everything that passed—Parker was walking 7 or 8 yards behind as I took Munns to the station—I don't think he heard what Munns said.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-172" type="surname" value="MAPHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-172" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MAPHAM</persName> </hi>. I am a cab-driver—on 13th May, between 1 and half-past in the day I was in the Haymarket on the rank—Harrison, the com
<lb/>missionaire, called me, and said "Take this parcel to the Union Flag; they will pay you"—I said "Where is it?"—he said "You know Oakley Build
<lb/>ings? "—I said "I drove you once before; is it there?"—he said "No; it was down below that, on the right, the Union Flag, you will think of that?"—I took the parcel there—it was a little bit bigger than that—I left the parcel there, and was paid from the bar—I received 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—on the 14th May I was on the rank again between 1 and 1.30—he called me off, and said "Take these to the same place that you did yesterday"—he gave me two parcels and a note—one was rather small—I was to have something to drink and receive the money from behind the bar—I should not know the note again—I did not look at it—I put it under the cushion so as not to lose it—I gave up the parcels at the Union Flag, and was paid in the same way—I could not say who paid me the fare, the young lady or the landlord—I was paid over the bar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-173" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE CARRINGTON</persName> </hi>. I am a cabman—on 15th May about 1.30 in the day, I was on the Haymarket cab rank—Harrison, the commissionaire, called me off the rank, and put two parcels into my cab and gave me a note, and told me to go to the Union Flag with them—he said it was right down the Westminster Road—I believe those are the two parcels.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-174" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET MATTHEWS</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid to Mr. Honey church the landlord of the Union Flag, Union Place, Lambeth, and on the 11th May a cabman brought two parcels there with a note—I can't swear that that is the note—it was folded in that way, but there is no date to either of the notes—it was one of these—the parcels were left by the cabman and I paid him the fare—the parcels were fetched away about 2.30 by the two Harrisons—that happened on the 11th, 12th, 13th, and 14th—parcels were brought</p>
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<p>in the same way by a cab and were taken away by the Harrisons—they were both present on each occasion—three notes came altogether—I have only got one, the Harrisons had the others when they fetched the things—they were given to them with the parcels—this is the one I retained—(
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>): "May, 1874—Sir. Will you kindly receive this parcel as usual until this evening and I will call for it; give the cabman his fare if you please, I remain, yours truly, L. F. Harrison."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-175" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HONEYCHURCH</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Union Flag—I know all three of the prisoners—I have known the woman Harrison about twelve months and the man Harrison about sis months—I have known Munns ever since I have lived in the house, that is nearly two years—I have seen him in the company of the Harrisons five or six times in my house—I have heard of parcels coming on four days but I did not see Munns on either of those days—on the 15th May I was in the bar about dinner time when two parcels were brought which I have seen since in the possession of the police—Munns was not there that day at all—I am quite sure of that—I can't say when was the last time I had seen him drinking with the Harrisons before that—he was there on one of the four days.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MATTHEWS</hi>. I don't know Harrison's hand-writing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> This note was brought with the last two parcels—"May 1874. With your usual kindness will you give the cabman 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. till I call this evening (
<hi rend="italic">signed</hi>), Harrison, commissionaire."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-176" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID HALL</persName> </hi>. I am buyer in the grocery department of the Civil Service Stores in the Haymarket—I have been shown the good but I can't swear to any of them—they resemble goods sold at our establishment—they are the same name and manufacture—I can't speak to the packing at all—Harrison was a commissionaire employed there—I should think he had been there about three years to the best of my knowledge—it was his duty to open the door for ladies and to open the carriage doors—occasionally he had to take parcels to cabs—he would not have any right to take goods upon his own account—I can't swear to his handwriting—I think those notes are in his writing—I don't know Munns at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. The goods I have seen are the same as are sold by ordinary tradesmen—there is Colman's mustard, that is sold at the stores and by the ordinary dealers besides—there is nothing to show that the goods found upon Munns's premises were not come by legitimately.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MATTHEWS</hi>. It was Harrison's duty to call cabs, and he would be under the counterman's directions if the counterman wished a cab called—there was a counterman named Smith there—he is no longer there—he was there when Harrison was taken—he was discharged since—I don't know Smith's handwriting at all—I can't say whether the writing of the note resembles his writing—I think it was last Thursday or Friday he was discharged, after the examination of the prisoners before the Magistrate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> It would not be' possible for the commissionaire to pack" the goods-himself and take them out; he could not do that without someone assisting him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-177" type="given" value="GEORGE RICHARD"/>GEORGE RICHARD MOORE</persName> </hi>. I am general inspector at the stores in the Haymarket—I have seen Harrison's handwriting—I believe the signature to these notes to be his handwriting—the other writing I can't swear to—I</p>
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<p>think it is in a different handwriting—I don't know Smith's writing Harrison had no authority to send out goods at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MUNNS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received a good character</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL HARRISON</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY ANN HARRISON</hi>
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<p>415.
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<interp inst="t18740608-415-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to stealing 100 yards of cloth, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-415-offence-1 t18740608-name-180"/>Henry Hook</persName>, his master.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-415-18740608 t18740608-415-punishment-33"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>416.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN McQUEENY</hi> (30)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18740608-416-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing a watch of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-416-offence-1 t18740608-name-182"/>William Westley</persName> from his person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CHARLES MATTHEWS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-183" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-183" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-183" type="surname" value="WESTLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-183" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WESTLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a waiter—on 2nd May I was in Aldgate High Street, looking at some Volunteers that were passing—in consequence of something that was said to me I went up to the prisoner and said, "You have got my watch"—he said "I have not"—I laid hold of him, and said "Well, I will soon see whether you have got it or not," and walked on with him as far as the Minories—he made a little resistance, but he found I was determined—I called out "Police!" and he said "Hold your
<hi rend="italic">row</hi>, you fool; I will give you your watch"—I said "If you give me the watch I will let you go"—he said "Come down here, and I will give you the watch"—I said "Very well"—we went down Jewin Street, and I said "Now, if you don't give me the watch I will give you in charge "previously to that a policeman came up and asked me if I wanted him—I said "No," thinking I should get my watch back by him saying he would give it me if I let him go—I said "Now, if you don't give me the watch I will give you in charge "—he called out "
<hi rend="italic">Bill</hi>, give him his watch"—the watch was passed into his right hand, and he dropped it with the bow off into my left—the police
<lb/>man must have been following a little way behind, and he said "What is the matter?"—I said "He has stolen my watch"—he said "You had better give him in charge"—the prisoner ran off, and we followed—I was tripped up several times—the detective caught him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I did not see you standing in front of me—you had just moved off, and were 10 or 12 yards away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-184" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-184" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-184" type="surname" value="ROCK"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-184" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROCK</persName> </hi>. I am a tailor, and live at 19, Union Street—on the night of 2nd May I was in Aldgate High Street—I saw the prisoner push against Westley, and cut off the watch—I spoke to Westley, and pointed the prisoner out to him—I was present when the watch was given back—some
<lb/>body gave it to him in his right hand, and he dropped it into Mr. Westley's left hand.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> When I saw the prosecutor I was stand
<lb/>ing close to him by the butchers' shops—I saw you cut off the chain.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-185" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-185" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-185" type="surname" value="RICHARDS"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-185" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID RICHARDS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi> 765). I saw the prisoner running from Cooper's Row to Trinity Square, with several people following him—I after
<lb/>wards caught him in the Mint—I asked him why he was running—he said "I don't know; it is not me, it is someone else"—the prosecutor came up and said "That's him; he has stolen my watch"—the prisoner said "I did not steal your watch; I know nothing about it"—I produce the watch; the bow is off.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-186" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18740608-name-186" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-186" type="surname" value="WESTLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-name-186" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WESTLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">recalled</hi>). This is my watch.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I hope you will take into consideration the evidence; the man does not know what he is saying.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18740608-416-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18740608-416-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been before convicted in Jan
<lb/>nary</hi>, 1868.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18740608-416-punishment-34" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-416-18740608 t18740608-416-punishment-34"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, June</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1874.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Lord Chief Baron Kelly.</hi> </p>
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<p>417.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE ALEXANDER</hi> </persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ADA CLIFFORD</hi> </persName>, were indicted for
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<interp inst="t18740608-417-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="murder"/>the wilful murder of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18740608-417-offence-1 t18740608-name-189"/>Ada Mary Smart</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEASLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18740608-name-190" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18740608-name-190" type="given" value="MARGARET JANE"/>MARGARET JANE SOUTHEY</persName> </hi>. I live at 4, Pierpoint Terrace, Upper Street, Islington—I did live at 6, Wood-Street—I left there about three months ago; I can't say exactly how long it is, I should think about six weeks—I was living there at the time I was examined before the Magistrate—I am single, and an unfortunate woman—I know the prisoners—I went to live with them, at No. 3, Sermon Lane, Islington, last October twelve months I think; before that, I had lived with them in St. George's Road, Holloway—up to 12th February, 1873, I was living with them in Sermon Lane, until I went to the hospital, on Wednesday morning, 12th February, 1873—I did not know them before I went to live with them—I was in the family way when to the hospital on Wednesday morning, 12th February, 1873—I passed as Mr. and Mrs. Alexander—it was a house of ill-fame—the hospital I went to was St. Saviour's, Upper Holloway—I had made inquires, three or four weeks before I went there, whether I could be taken in—the two prisoners took me there in a cab, and I was confined there the same day, early in the
<hi rend="italic">morning-</hi>—the female prisoner came there to see me on the ninth day, and brought me a bottle of port wine—she came again, and brought me some little refreshment, such as cakes, or something like that, and some cooked ham, and she brought some linen to the sister for me—I took with me some baby's clothing of my own when I went in—I took what was necessary for the child, a change of clothes—I took all the things necessary to put on an infant, I had bought that myself—I remember a letter coming to the hospital from Alexander, on 27th February, the day before I left—I after
<lb/>wards saw Alexander destroy that letter; it was addressed to me by the name of Jessie Smart—I entered the hospital in that name—it was the prisoners' proposal that I should change my name—Alexander did not sign. any name to the letter. only "Your brother"—before I went into the hospital, I had been going by the name of Miss Edwards—the sister in charge first read the letter to me, and I read it afterwards—he said in the letter that he would take me to Manchester—I know Alexander's writing, that letter, was written by him—next day he came, alone—he saw sister Elizabeth—I was prepared to go away with him, with my child, I came down into the waiting-room to see him, he asked me if I was willing to go, and I said "Yes," I dressed the child that morning, it had on a little calico night dress, with a frill of the same round the neck, a shirt trimmed round the sleeves with white lace, a white flannel petticoat, a white flannel roller, two or three times round the stomach, and a white cotton band—it was rather a delicate child, a girl; it had sore eyes, they were red, and very much inflamed—the nurse, Cotton, used to sponge it, and attend to it—it</p>
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<p>had a birth mark over the right eye, it was not very large, I suppose about half an inch—the child was christened before it was taken away, but not en
<lb/>tered into the Church of England, it was christened by a gentleman named Fleming, the chaplain of the hospital—Miss Cotton stood. as godmother, and Alexander stood as sponsor—it was called, Ada Mary Smart, I suggested the name—both the sister and Miss Cotton asked me to call and see them again when it was convenient, they should like to know how I was getting on, they all wished me well—I left the hospital with Alexander, between 3 and 4 o'clock in the afternoon; we walked away—I carried the baby—there was a wrap put on it, a shawl that Alexander brought with him—it was a grey and black shawl, a mixture, with a reddish looking border—I should know it again—I had seen it before in the prisoner's house—Clifford has worn it several times, and I afterwards saw Alexander wearing it, after I had parted with the child, three or four different times—the sister at the hospital placed the shawl round the child, and I carried it away with the shawl on, it was a cold night—we went together as far as the Nag's Head, at the comer of Seven Sisters Road and Holloway Road, that is about ten minutes' walk from the hospital—we met Clifford outside—she appeared to be wait
<lb/>ing—she asked how I felt, was I better in health—we went into the Nag's Head together, into the coffee-room, and had some refreshment—Clifford took the child from me in the coffee-room—we stopped there about half-an-hour—the child continued to have the shawl on—Clifford took off the hood that they had given me' at the hospital, and put on a scarlet hood which she brought with her—I saw her take it out of a parcel, and she placed a piece of brown linsey on the baby underneath the shawl; she brought that with her—she had it doubled four times and placed it round the child—no other alteration was made in its dress—I should know the linsey again—we all three left the Nag's Head together, Clifford carrying the child—we went up the Camden Road, and up a turning opposite the Brecknock tavern, to a small public-house, on the left, the Copenhagen Arms—we only remained there a few minutes—we had some refreshment there—we all three left together, Clifford carried the child—we then went to the Commercial coffee-shop in the Hampstead Road; that was about a quarter-of-an-bour or twenty minutes' walk from the Copenhagen Arms—Alexander and I went in there—Clifford, was asked if she would come in—she said no, she did not feel hungry, and she did not come in, and I and Alexander went in without her—Clifford still had the child—Alexander called for some refresh
<lb/>ment and immediately left me—I remained there about half-an-hour—he returned alone—I have never seen the child from that day to this—I should think it was between 5.30 and 6 o'clock when I was at the coffee-house—when Alexander returned I asked him where my child was—he said it was all right, and that Lizzie, meaning Clifford, would meet us at the Victoria public-house at King's Cross—he usually called her Lizzie—I did not know that she was going to take my child away—I expected to see her with it at the Victoria, that is about half-an-hour's walk from the coffee-house—I went with Alexander to the Victoria—it was then getting dark—it must have been between 6 and 7 o'clock—we went into the Victoria and remained there about a quarter or half-an-hour—I did not see anything of Clifford or the baby—I asked Alexander where she was—he said he would go out and look for her—he went out and came back and said he could not find her, and I also looked about myself, but could not see her, and I then asked him if he would take me home in a cab—I felt very fatigued and tired—he took me</p>
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<p>home in a cab to 3, Sermon Lane, where they were living—Clifford was not at home—she came in in about an hour and a half without the baby—I asked her where my baby was—she said it was in good hands, she had placed it out to nurse, and she said I had to pay them seven shillings weekly for it—Alexander was present the whole time—she did not tell me where the woman lived—they never would tell me—they never told me any name—they told me afterwards that she lived twenty miles away in the country—they said I was not to worry, it was in safe hands—I asked them many times where the child was, and they told me it was all right and they would take me to see it—that was some time afterwards—I paid seven shillings the third week after I came out of the hospital—I paid it to Clifford—I paid it to both in the presence of both—I continued paying the seven shillings a week to them from time to time until about four or five months ago—I paid them altogether for about twelve months—I made them some payments after I went. to live at Wood Street, in December—I can't tell when I left the prisoners—I have my rent book here which will show—it was some months before Christmas—I continued to pay the 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week all the time I was living with them and also after I went to Wood Street—it was about two or three months after the child was taken away that they said it was twenty miles in the country—I asked them several times if they would give me the address where the child lived—they said if they gave me the address where the people lived that had my child it would be making them out story tellers, because they had told them it was their own child—I never had the address—I asked them again afterwards where the child was, and they said it was about twenty miles in the country, and if I saved up 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. they would take me to see it—the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was to pay my fare there—they were always both present when these conversations took place—"the third time I paid the 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. they asked if I would give them some extra money for clothes for my baby—they did not say how much, as much as I could afford—and on several occasions I gave them 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., instead of 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to go towards the clothes—they never told me whether they had purchased clothes—when I was living in Wood Street Alexander came to me several times for money—he used to say that he had come for the payment for the child—on one occasion I pledged my waterproof cloak to get some money to pay them the 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I sent Bertha Colvin to pledge it—she was a lodger in the same house in Wood Street—it was not a house of the same description as the prisoner's—it was said to be a respectable house, it was not a house of ill fame—Colvin pledged the cloak and brought me back 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I gave part of it to Alexander, I had some, and I took part of that to make up the difference—I paid the prisoners 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week for my lodging in Sermon Lane and 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. extra for clean linen—when I first went to them I paid Is. a day for my board, afterwards I paid 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week, 18
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a day—I did not pay them anything else only the 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for the baby—besides this I was paying 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week for the support. of a former child which was born in 1871—that child was being nursed by a Mr. and Mrs. Masters, at 99, Grove Street, Park Street, Mother Red Cap—I sent the prisoners to Masters while I was in the hospital to pay 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for me—Mr. Masters came to me in Sermon Lane the Sunday after I got out of the hospital—I don't remember whether I paid him any money then—I sometimes took the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. myself to the Masters, and sometimes sent it by post office order—I generally paid it myself—they had the child until last Friday—I paid them the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week regularly until then</p>
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<p>—I took it then because they had no one to leave it with while I was here—when I sent the post office orders I got Alexander to write me a note, because I thought he could word it better than I could—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. the pawn ticket for the waterproof cloak; it is dated 29th January this year—at the end of March this year I was living in Wood Street, Cromer Street—Alexander fetched me out of a night some times; I have often gone out with him of a night—we have often had words about my child; I have asked him where it was, and he has refused to tell me—that has occurred on several occasions—I had a disturbance with him at the end of March about 12.30 at night, or in the morning—he came up to me in Upper Street, Islington, and asked what I meant by telling my landlady and a lodger in the house about him and my child—I said that was my business—he up with his hand to strike me; then I spoke in a loud voice, and asked him what he had done with my child; I asked him to produce it, and I asked him whether he had murdered it or not, or what had he done with it—I repeated that over several times, until I was dragged away by one of the lodgers of my old landlady, who I am living with at the present time—I had got very much excited, and a great crowd assembled—Alexander did not make any answer to my charges, that I know of, but he came across to the house where they took me to and told the landlady that he was going to the police station to bring two policemen to give me in charge—he did not say for what—that was all that took place that night—next day he came to Wood Street and left this letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) it is his writing—it is directed to Mrs. Glendale—she was one of the lodgers there—she read it, and showed it to me, and I read it. (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated 31st April</hi>, 1874,
<hi rend="italic">and professed to give a history of the transaction; it stated that after leaving the home the prisoner told him (Alexander) that she had left her baby with a woman, as she had previously arranged; but that three weeks after she said she had left it upon a step in the Hampstead Road—that from motives of compassion he had abstained from mentioning it, but as she now persisted in accusing him of having murdered the child, he was determined to have the whole matter settled; and as it was in the hands of Kelly, the detective, he should advise her to get out of the way for a long lime to come.</hi>)—Mrs. Young was my landlady in Wood Street—I saw Clifford the next morning after the row with Alexander—I went to her apartments at 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., Pierpoint terrace—I first sent Bertha Colvin to ask her to come over to the public-house, where I was—she did not come; and I and Colvin went to her—I asked her what she had done with my baby—she said that was her business—I said "If you will tell me where it is I will bother you no further"—and Colvin said "I should think you are sorry you spoke; you spoke out of your turn"—Clifford again said that was her business—we tnen left—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the shawl my baby was wrapped in when she was taken from the hospital, which I have seen both the prisoners wearing; but it has been altered since—I saw it round the prisoner Clifford's shoulders' that very same night about an hour and a half after I had parted with my child when she came home—I did not see it again after that till the last cold weather, about four or five months ago, because it was pledged—I then saw it around Alexander's shoulders at the Victoria public-house, Kings Cross—that was before the row in Upper Street—we had some rows before that, but nothing to speak of—Clifford told me that the shawl was pledged the morning after I saw it round her shoulders, the morning after I came home from my confinement; they said they were short of money—this is the</p>
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<p>piece of linsey that I saw wrapped round my child at the Nag's Head, and which was round it when I last saw it; I never saw it again till it was pro
<lb/>duced at the police court—that is the waterproof cloak that was pledged on 29th January.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When Clifford took the child away this linsey was wrapped round its body and this shawl was also wrapped round it and within an hour and a half of my return to Sermon Lane I saw the female prisoner wearing that same shawl—I wore it before I went to the hospital—it is Clifford's shawl—she lent it to me to wear from time to time before I went to the Home to be confined—I know a Mrs. Field—I did not ask Clifford to lend me the shawl before I went to the Home in order that Mrs. Field might not detect that I was in the family way—I asked her to lend it me to keep me warm—it was not because I had not one of my own, I had one of my own, I did not wear it because it was of too bright a color—that was my only reason—I believed the story they told me that night that my child had been put out to nurse—I asked where it had gone to—they said it was all right; that was all I asked about it that night—I made no remark about the shawl—it was about three or four months after that I heard the child was twenty miles in the country—I did not ask where it was till then—I had often asked them where it was, I used to ask them every time I paid the money and that was every week and they always told me it was all right and well cared for—I did not understand you when I said I did not ask for three or four months—their answer did not quite satisfy me—I asked for the address where the child was, they said if they gave the address it would be making them out story tellers—that conversation did not take place at the time they said it was twenty miles off, it was before that—it did not satisfy me—I did not ask them any further questions upon that, I asked them each week where the child was—I asked them who took it into the country, they said the woman they had left it with—they did not say where they had left it with the woman—I did not ask them—I did not ask whe
<lb/>ther Clifford had taken it down into the country that night to the woman—I asked where the woman lived, not that same night I did not, I asked them the night they said it was twenty miles away—I asked the name of the place—they said it was only about twenty miles away—they said the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was to pay their fare; I believed that to take us three twenty miles into the country—on the night of the
<hi rend="italic">row</hi> in Islington with Alexander, he did not to my knowledge make any answer to what I said—he did not call a policeman, to my knowledge—I said before the Magistrate "I don't know what answer he made, I was so excited, I repeated it several times and he call
<lb/>ed for a policeman"—he did call for a policeman—I don't know whether the policeman came, I was dragged away—I did see a policeman but I don't know whether they were coming for me or not—I saw two sergeants coming down the street—I did not see whether he spoke to them or not—I could see that they were police sergeants by the stripes on their arms—I had not an opportunity of seeing whether he spoke to them or not, for I saw them coming down the street before I had any
<hi rend="italic">row</hi> with him at all—I heard that he went to the station with them—it is correct that I went to Clifford's apartment the next evening—there is no mistake about that—it was be
<lb/>tween ten and twelve—it was not the same night—I said before the Magis
<lb/>trate" the night I called out to Alexander in the street I went to No. 5. Pierpoint Terrace and saw Clifford"—It was in the morning that I went, it was the same day—it was between twelve and one when</p>
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<hi rend="italic">row</hi> with Alexander and it was the same evening that I went to Clifford's—the following day—I have not seen Mrs. Glendale here to-day—the landlady of the house in Wood Street does not know that anything improper is carried on there—Mrs. Glendale lives there—she does not take home men to my knowledge—Bertha Colvin lives there; she does not take home men—I did; not very often—I lived there just upon six months—Alexander has visited me there—he has slept there with me once; not long before this
<hi rend="italic">row</hi> happened; about a fortnight before, I think—I had a few words with Clifford before I left Sermon Lane—it was not about Alexander—she has sometimes spoken to me about him—she never complained of his familiarities with me; she hinted it to me, but never spoke openly—she did not leave the house in consequence of me—she did leave the house, and stayed away for a night—she as much as said that there was someone in the house who took too many familiarities with him; I thought she referred to me—I know she did not leave the house on my account—she has told me that I should leave the house—I slept with him in Sermon Lane—I laid on the outside of the bed that be laid in—I swear that I only slept once with him in Sermon Lane; that was on the occasion on which I lay outside the bed—in the bad sense of the word I never did sleep with him in Sermon Lane; I did not sleep with him in an improper sense there—I have had connexion with him in Sermon Lane—I had left Sermon Lane when I slept outside the bed—I have slept in the same bed with both the prisoners in Sermon Lane for two or three months—they slept with me through necessity—when I said I had only slept with him on one occasion, I meant for nothing improper—the night I came from the Home I slept in my own room with the two prisoners—I first became acquainted with Clifford the week before I went to live with them—I was then living at 27, Albert Street, with Mrs. Brown, in the name of Miss Edwards—I was carrying on the same calling—in June, 1871, I was a witness in this Court on a charge against my two uncles, Walter Tregellas and his brother, for attempting to procure abortion by adminis
<lb/>tering drugs to me—they were charged before a Magistrate before they came here for trial, and I gave evidence on that occasion—when before the Magistrate I did not decline to say who was the father of my child; I said The father was dead; I said who he was, John Thoms—I was examined here as a witness—I don't remember being asked if either of my uncles was the father of my child, and replying in the negative—they were men well to do in the world—it was my uncle, Harry Tregellas, who found me in America before that—he was not one of those who were tried—he found me leading an immoral life in America—I don't remember in what month I left America, or whether it was in September—my uncles took me to live with them in Cornwall—I subsequently came up to London, and the trial was in June—after the trial I lived at Mrs. Field's—during the time I was in Cornwall my uncles treated me with the greatest possible kindness up to the time of the trial; they made a home for me—after the trial my uncle Walter Tregellas did not take me back again to Cornwall, because I had disgraced the family—he paid my board and lodging at Mrs. Field's for just upon fifteen months—I lived a respectable life at Mrs. Field's—my uncle did not continue the allowance because he failed in business—I applied to my other uncles—the allowance at Mrs. Field's was not stopped because I insisted upon leading the same course of life that I had been leading—I am not sure it was for fifteen months; I can't tell how long it was—when I</p>
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<p>met Clifford I was carrying on my business as a prostitute at Islington—in September, 1872, when I told Clifford that I was in the family way with this child, I also told her that I was suffering from a bad disorder, and that I did not wish the other girls who were plying their calling in the neighbour
<lb/>hood to know it—I went to Gray's Inn Hospital for the purpose of being cured of that disorder—I was not an inmate; I attended there for about a month or six weeks—Dr. De Merrick attended me there—I did not cease to attend there because some of the other girls of the neighbourhood had seen me there, and I did not wish it to be known—I never told Clifford that that was the cause—I went to the Holloway Dispensary about once—I was not attended there under the name of Mrs. Gordon—I don't remember that I ever attended Holloway Dispensary, not while I was with the prisoners—I was not carry
<lb/>ing on my calling while I was at the hospital with this disorder—I was suffering in that way for about a month, not more—I supported myself during that time—I had thirty shillings saved up in the savings bank towards my confinement, and I saved more afterwards—I paid twenty-one shillings for admission to St. Saviour's Home the night I went in—I did not pay that out of the thirty shillings—I had the thirty shillings saved up at the time I was afflicted with this disorder—I did not have it at all at Sermon Lane—it was when I first lived with them at Holloway—I was cured before I went to Sermon Lane—Alexander advised me to go to Gray's Inn Hospital; that was whilst they lived in the Holloway Road—I was attended at that hospital about a month—it was about eight months after I first went to reside with the prisoners that I went to the Home; I only fell in the family way-a month before I went to them—I went to live with them in Holloway in November, and was there two or three months with them—I paid them their rent regularly—I was in their debt when I came back from being confined, not before that—it increased afterwards—I owed them four shillings when I left Sermon Lane—I owed a bill of 1
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. at a tally shop, which I gave Alexander the money to pay after I left Sermon Lane—I went to them at Holloway in October—I don't know what month it was that I went to Sermon Lane—before I became an inmate of the Home, I went there and enquired upon what terms I could be admitted to be confined—Clifford went with me—a few nights after that I was taken very ill, and they both persuaded me to take a cab to the Home, because they thought labour was coming on—I paid 1
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to go in—it was all composed of my own money—I entered in the name of Jessie Smart—I had not said anything to Clifford before I went to the Home about my fear that the child would suffer from the same disorder that I had while I was in the family-way, not that I remember—I think I did say so—I had already had a child named Lilly—that child was not suffering from scrofula—that was the child