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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>LUSK, MAYOR.</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>VOL. LXXIX.</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, November 24th, 1873, and following days,</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">ANDREWLUSK</hi>, M.P.,
<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London;
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIR JOHN RICHARD QUAIN</hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench;
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-2" type="given" value="BENJAMIN SAMUEL"/>SIR BENJAMIN SAMUEL PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>, Knt., and
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-3" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT BESLEY</persName> </hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; The Right Hon.
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-4" type="given" value="RUSSELL"/>RUSSELL GURNEY</persName> </hi>, Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-5" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND"/>WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND COTTON</persName> </hi>, Esq.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS SCAMBLER OWDEN</hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-6" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MCARTHUR</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P., and
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-7" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PATTERSON</persName> </hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-8" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-9" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES WHETHAM</hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-10" type="given" value="JOHN HENRY"/>JOHN HENRY JOHNSON</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-11" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BEARD</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-12" type="given" value="ARTHUR TURNER"/>ARTHUR TURNER HEWETT</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LUSK, MAYOR. FIRST SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLE SEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, November</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-15" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MASON</persName> </hi>. I am a warehouseman, in the employment of Julius Quitman, a dealer in silk, of 19, Castle Street, Falcon Square—I hate been in the service seven or eight years—the prisoner came into the service some time in January, this year, as town traveller—it was his duty to obtain orders for goods and to wait on the customers of the firm—he was entrusted with sample pieces of silk—before taking them out, a memorandum would be made in the books of the firm of what he received—if I was in he would tell me what he took away; if not, he usually wrote it on a slip of paper before a new customer could be supplied, he had to submit the name to Mr. Quitman, and inquiries were then made—he was not allowed to buy silk—Mre. Ellis, of 46, New North Road, was not a customer of the firm somewhere about the latter part of March I missed a piece of silk 32 yards in length, at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a yard—I spoke to the prisoner about it; that must have been after the 31st—I told him I had missed it, and asked if he had sold it—he said he had taken it away as be went home one evening, and had left it with a party, but that he had not agreed to keep it yet—I asked him about when that was, he named a day, and I put it down then as the 18th—there had been no entry made of it in our books—he has never paid for it, nor has Mrs. Ellis—Mr. Jardine is a customer of ours—on 22nd April there is an entry of three pieces of silk to him, No. 10,087, 84 yards, at 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; No. 10,054, 101 1/4 yards, and No. 10,059, 98 3/4 yards, at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—on 15th May we sent Mr. Jardine a memorandum order to return those three pieces by bearer—we reoeived the two last with a message—I saw the prisoner afterwards the same morning, and said to him "I have sent in for those three pieces to Mr. Jardine, he has sent back two, and says that you had the other one"—the prisoner said "Oh, that is all right;</p>
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<p>he wants to keep it a bit longer, he thinks he can do with it; don't send in for it again, yet"—he left our service somewhere about 24th May—up to that time I had not seen the silk, or been paid for it—this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">pro duced</hi>) I believe to be the prisoner's writing; it is dated the 13th May; it refers to the 84 yards sent in on 16th March.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not enter the 32 yards to the prisoner to charge him with it, I merely put it down in this rough scrap-book—I did not ask him with whom he had left it on approbation; I know now that it was left with Mrs. Ellis—the prisoner was entitled to take out goods if he stated where they were going—we had a porter of the name of James Hunt, to whom he could communicate that, when I was not there; Hunt has left us—I believe he was there at that time; he had nothing to do with making entries—if the prisoner took out goods and received the money it was his duty to hand it to the cashier—the entries with regard to the three pieces left with Jardine are correct—I did not give him goods to take out; he used to take them from the fixtures, stating where they were going; he gene rally did that before he went out—he had no trap; he walked—I did not make any note of the conversation on 15th May—I did not doubt what the prisoner said at the time—Mr. Jardine is still debited with the missing piece—we do not know where it is.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-16" type="given" value="ALICE"/>ALICE ELLIS</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, and live at 44, New North Road—I have known the prisoner five or six years—some time in March he was showing me some patterns, and I asked him if he could get me a piece of silk—he said he could—I told him I could not pay till June—he brought it me three or four days afterwards—I asked him the price—I am not certain whether he said 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., he said I could have it at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and I was to pay him on 20th June—he did not leave any memorandum with it—I knew he had obtained the silk from his employer, Mr. Quitman, he told me so; he said he was traveller, or salesman for the firm—I gave 32 yards of it to my dressmaker to make up; one dress was made for my sister, and one partly made, which I gave up to Mr. Brett—it was to be made for the boat race, but unfortunately I had a little trouble, and she was told not to go on with it, and I asked the prisoner if it would make any difference to Mr. Quitman if I paid on 29th September; he said be dared say that would do—that was about the end of June—I asked him for the invoice, and he said when I paid Mr. Quitman I could have the bill and receipt, it mattered not who I paid, Mr. Quitman or himself—I did not tell him not to give my name to the firm.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I do not carry on any business, I am independent—he told me at the time he sold it that I could pay either him or the firm—he told me so in June; I can't recollect his telling me that at the time he sold it; he might have said that he was getting it for me at the cost price.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-17" type="given" value="ALFRED GBORGE"/>ALFRED GBORGE JARDINE</persName> </hi>. I am a cloak manufacturer, of 22, Castle Street, Falcon Square—I have dealt with Mr. Quitman for silk—in March or April the prisoner called on me, and showed me some samples of silk—towards the end of April or the beginning of May, a piece of 84 yds., at 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a yard, was delivered to me, and subsequently two other lengths of 101 1/4 yds. and 98 3/4 yds. at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I saw the prisoner on 13th May, the date of this receipt—I wrote it and he signed it—he signed for one piece, the 84 yds. at 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., the other two pieces were subsequently returned to Mr. Quitman, and I have never seen the 84 yrds. since the prisoner took it away—I have not had it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known the prisoner twenty-five years—he has held some very responsible positions in first-class houses—he has always borne a most respectable character—I should think he has been full forty three years engaged in the same kind of business.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have not seen him during all the twenty-five years, orobably there was a lapse of eight or ten years, and after that he was epresenting Mr. Quitman at the begiuning of this year.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-18" type="given" value="JULIUS"/>JULIUS QUITMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a silk merchant, of 19, Castle Street, Falcon Square—in January, this year, I engaged the prisoner as town traveller at 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week—I knew nothing of Mrs. Ellis until after he left my service, which was about 20th of May, nor did I know of the 84 yds. of silk being returned to him by Mr. Jardine—I found it oat afterwards—I have never seen that piece of silk since—I made some inquiries of him about it in June, and he said he had sold it to a party at Kingston, but he never gave me the name, and I never could find out—I have no customer at Kingston.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I wrote to him in June asking him for an explanation, and he came on—I wanted to know where the piece of silk was—I don't know whether I wanted the silk or the money—I did not ask him for either the silk or the money—I asked him what had become of the two pieces of silk, and he said one piece he had sold at Kingston and the other piece he had sold to a Mrs. Ellis—I don't recollect asking him the name of the person at Kingston—I don't recollect saying anything about the money—it is the course of business to have either the goods or the money, but he had no business to sell goods without our sanction, without their being in voiced from our counting-house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> This is the letter I wrote to him. (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "1st July, 1873. Sir,—Unless you give us entire satisfaction for the two pieces of silky 2 o'clock this afternoon, we shall instruct our solicitor to take legal proceedings against you") The two pieces of silk referred to in that letter are the 32 yds. of Mrs. Ellis' and the 84 yds. of Mr. Jardine's—I think after that I at once put the matter in the hands of my attorney.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Detective Officer</hi>). I took the prisoner into custody on 21st August—I told him it was for stealing about 32 yds. of silk and about 84 yds.—he said the 32 yds. he bad sold to a Mrs. Ellis, and the 84 yds. he had sold, but he did not say to whom.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>—Conspiring to defraud
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GREENS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>
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<p>Billet public-house, in Shadwell—on the afternoon of 6th November I was serving in the bar—I saw the prisoners there—Rivers asked for a half quartern of brandy—I served them—Anderson took a piece of paper out of his pocket and said something to Rivers which I did not hear, and she said "That is good enough, put it in your pocket, you have just got it from the office"—she called for a glass of ale—Anderson asked what was to pay—I I said "Eightpence"—He pulled out a handful of silver and copper and put it back again, pulled out the piece of paper and threw it across the counter to me—I opened it, it was doubled up, and I said "I can't change this for you, unless silver will do"—Rivers said "Change it if you can, I want some, money"—by this time I had the note open—I said "This is a peculiar looking note," and I took it to Mr. Abseil—this (
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<hi rend="italic">Anderson.</hi> I was drunk; I did not know what it was.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> He did not appear to be at all intoxicated.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman K R</hi> 14). On 6th November I was off duty and in plain clothes at the Crooked Billet—I saw Anderson, Rivers, and auother woman there—I saw a note passed over the counter, and heard Anderson say he got it from the Home—when they left the house I fol lowed them to the North Pole public-house, and went into a different com partment and heard what passed—I afterwards saw them in a cab—I went up and said to Anderson "1 am a constable of the Metropolitan Police, and you have a flash note here"—he said "I don't know what you mean"—I said "Oh yes, you do; no nonsense about it"—he said "Is that what you mean?"—he undid his coat, and produced two notes from his pocket—I said "Here are two"—he said "Oh, is there?"—I got assistance and took him to the station—he said a Mr. Marney gave it to him—at the station, before the acting inspector, when the charge was read over, he said he got it from the Home when he was paid off that day.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I know the female prisoner—I believe her to be a pros titute—I can't say whether she knew me—I have been on duty in that part for years:—the prisoners were perfectly sober.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-31" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SWAIN</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Mercantile Marine Office in Poplar—on 6th November I paid Anderson 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; a 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note and the rest in gold and silver, in respect of wages due to him—he was in a ship called the
<hi rend="italic">Royal Dane</hi>, shipped from Brisbane to London—he is a volunteer in the Naval Reserve besides—I think this (
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note to pay for the rent—this is the note—I did not give him the change—his lodging did not come to 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but it is the general use to give it to the boarding-master—we act as bankers.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Anderson's Defence</hi>, "I address you in writing because of the impede ment in my speech. I am guilty of presenting the note—that is all I know about it I was in drink the same day as I was paid off from my ship; it was put in my pocket outside the Sailor's Home, as far as I can recollect. The female prisoner knows nothing of it, I only called her in to have a drink. I hope you will look into the case and give me justice. I have been going to sea fifteen years. I was never in trouble before. I have told the truth, all I know about it."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered therewas no case against</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, November</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Five Years' Penal Servitude.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Nine Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Two years' Im prisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SIMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in cash to a person who receipted this bill (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I am not certain of the prisoner—I paid the same firm another account of 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. at the same time.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from Carr & Scott, but he did not pay the 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I do not know the date, but I aftewards sent him again for the account, and he said that it was not to be paid till the following Tuesday—I went myself, found that it had been paid to him, and gave him in charge the same day—he said, in German, "I am very sorry, I meant to have replaced it—it has been paid to us since I gave him in charge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He did not say that he had used it for the purpose of his marriage—his friends came forward and paid it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-58" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY REISSMANN</persName> </hi>. I am in business With Mr. Roper—the prisoner has not paid me this amount—on 27th October, the day he was given in charge, he said that he was very sorry for it; he intended to repay the money later, when he had some money—we received the money three or four days after giving him in charge—I made no promise not to prosecute him—we refused the money two or three times, but they pressed it upon us.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner said that he did not intend to cheat us out of it—he had used it for the purpose of getting married—he was married</p>
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<p>about that time—I said in German that we gave him in custody as an ex
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>). The prisoner was given into my custody—he said next morning that he had the money, and intended to pay it back.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., with intent to defraud;</rs>
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>,
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. by false pretences.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the Prosecution, offered no evidence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, November</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BRSLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ST. AUBYN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Newton, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Hickley.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-66" type="surname" value="LING"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-66" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL LING</persName> </hi>. I am a carman, of 1, Yeoman's Terrace, Deptford—in the first or second week in June I was engaged by Hickley to go to 222, Upper Thames Street, and fetch acme stoves and iron—I went with an empty van about five or ten minutes before 7 o'clock in the morning—I had a note in an envelope which I gave to one of the men in the warehouse—I saw a man there much resembling Newton, but I could not swear to him—I believe that was the man to whom I gave the envelope, but I should not like to take an oath to it—I brought away some sash weights—I could not say how many, about 5 cwt or 6 cwt.—I took a portion of them to a place called Forest Rope Ground, near the Holly Tree, Berraond sey—I there saw Hickley, and he went along with me and helped me unload at the new buildings, the rest I carried to his house, 14, Robertson Place, Lower Road, Deptford—they were laid down in his front garden—I received an invoice at the warehouse, which I gave to Hickley—a week or eight days afterwards I went again to Thames Street, about the same time in the morning, and brought away about the same quantity of the same goods, sash weights and iron bars—I saw the same people there—I saw that man (Newton) there, but I could not positively swear he was the man I gave the note to—I saw two men at the warehouse—I delivered some of those sash weights, I don't know the name of the road, but just at the back of the Manor public-house, Bermandsey, and the remainder I took home—I saw Hickley after I had got my load, and he went with me when I delivered the goods; it was not the same place where I delivered the others.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>. I feel confident that Newton is the man I saw the second time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I did not know Hickley before this job, and I never knew his name till after he was in custody—I took a</p>
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<p>portion of the load to his own house—he was fitting up some houses with stoves and ranges and sashes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-67" type="surname" value="CLARK"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-67" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am a carman, of 13, Portland Terrace, Deptford Lower Road—about June Hickley employed me to go to 222, Upper Thames Street—I went with a horse and cart between 7 and 8 o'clock in the morning—I had a paper with me—I believe I only saw two, men at the warehouse, one was a short man—Newton is like one of the men, but I can't swear to him—I gave up the piece of paper, the things were brought out to my cart and I loaded them; they were parts of stoves and sash weights; it was not above 3 cwt. or 4 cwt—Hickley was not there during the time I was loading—I took them to Buckley's house, 14, Robert son Terrace—about a week after I went again, by Hickley's direction, to 222, Upper Thames Street, between 7 and 8 o'clock in the morning—I saw a man in the office—I delivered my order to him, and he delivered the goods to me—I believe it was the same person I had seen before, still I am not certain; it was a short man—I only saw two persons on the premises that morning—parts of stoves and some sash weights were brought out and put into my cart, about the same weight as before, and I took them to Hickley's house—I went again three or four days or a week after, by Hickley's direction, with a paper—I saw a short man, I believe the same I have spoken of—I delivered the paper—I only saw two persons—some stoves were given to me, and I believe three or four coppers or iron boilers—I took them to Hickley's house—Hickley did not go with me on either occasion—I saw him when I got to his house; the things were unloaded in the front of his house—he paid me on each occasion.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-68" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-68" type="surname" value="WILLIS"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-68" type="given" value="LUKE"/>LUKE WILLIS</persName> </hi>. I am a carman at Rotherhithe—about August last I was employed by Hickley to fetch a load of stoves from Thames Street, I don't know the date—I went to Messrs. Hutchinson's warehouse with a bit of paper—I got there between 7 and 8 o'clock in the morning—I saw two or three men there—I think Newton was one of the men—they put the things in my van—I took one load to Aspenden Road, near Blue Anchor Road, Jamaica Level—I don't know whether that was the first or the second load—some new houses are being built there—I saw Hickley there, and he paid me for the cartage—about a fortnight afterwards I received another order from Hickley to go to the same place for another load—I am not sure whether he went with me on that occasion, or whether I took the order—I went about 7 o'clock—I saw the same men there, and the van was loaded as before, with the same sort of goods—I took that load to Hickley's house, and he paid me—some little time after, I received another order to go to Hutchinson's warehouse—I can't recollect the time, because I did not put it down; I think it was about the same interval as between the first and second journey—I went with directions from Hickley—I think I saw the same men—my van was then loaded with sash weights, I think—I took them to Hickley's house, and he paid me—I did not sign any ticket at the warehouse on either occasion.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-69" type="surname" value="BOLTON"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-69" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BOLTON</persName> </hi>. I am a carman, at Whitford Terrace, Lower Road, Rotherhithe—one evening, early in June, Hickley came and asked if I could do a job for him next morning, to go and fetch a load of stoves and ranges from Upper Thames Street, and I was to be there at the time they opened, about 7 o'clock—I went next morning, and got there about 6. 45; the warehouse was not open—Hickley went with me—it was about a quarter of an hour before I saw anyone else; I then saw two of the warehousemen—I</p>
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<p>did not notice how the premises were opened—I did not take much notice of the warehousemen—my load was stoves and fittings, about a ton weight—Hickley remained there the whole time—I did not sign any book or paper—when I was loaded, Hickley told me to go on—we went over Black friars Bridge, across the Borough to Rotherhithe, to some new buildings—Hickley had come to my place in the morning, at 5. 45, and knocked at the gate as I was harnessing my horse, and he got in the van and want with me—after we got about half-way up Thames Street, he said "Pull up, and I will get out here," and ho got out and walked the rest of the distance along side the van—I lost sight of him for about a quarter of an hour; I suppose he went to see about the men, as they were not there; as soon as the ware house was unlocked he told me to pull over the way—I had lent my van to a Mr. Cowland before that.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-70" type="surname" value="JAQUES"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-70" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS JAQUES</persName> </hi>. I am a carman—in July last I was in the service of Mr. Taylor—I was ordered by him to go to Thames Street—I got there a few minutes before 7 o'clock—I don't think the warehouse was open; I waited till it was open—I then saw a man that loaded me, Newton is some thing like the man, but I can't say—my wagon was loaded with sashs weights—Hickley was not there—I took them to Hickley's house, 14, Robertson Terrace—some little time after I went again to the warehouse, by order of my employer—I saw, I think, the same two men—I had a few sash weights then, and I think a few stoves, and took them to Hickley's house—some little time afterwards I went again; on that occasion I believe: Hickley went with me—we got there about the same time in the morning—I was loaded with a few sash weights, a few iron pallisades, and a few pipes—I took them to Hickley's house—I don't recollect how either of the men at the warehouse were dressed; I think one had a paper cap on—I did not sign any paper on either occasion—some little time after the third occasion I took a load of water-pipes from Hickley's house to Camberwell Green—Hickley went with me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-71" type="surname" value="LING"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-71" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL LING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">reexamined</hi>). One evening in the middle of July, I took a load of things from Hickley's house to Chislehurst—I afterwards pointed out that place to Mr. Hutchinson—I also took some water-pipes from Hickley's place to a place in the Old Kent Road; I think the name is Burton; and I also took some sash weights from his place to Peckham and Brixton; they were the same description of things that I had taken from Upper Thames Street.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-72" type="surname" value="DAVISON"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-72" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD DAVISON</persName> </hi>. I am a builder, at 1, Keaton Road, Bermondsey—I have been building some houses in Aspenden Road, Rotherhithe—I know Hickley—I have bought property of him on four different occasions—these are the four invoices and receipts he gave me—they describe the goods and the prices—the total amount is 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the dates are 5th Jury, 12th, 23rd, and 24th—the stoves and ranges were fixed in Aspenden Road, at Nos. 19, 21, 23, 25, 27 and 29—they are adjoining houses.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I gave rather more than the ordi nary price for some things, and some rather lower, but taking one with the other, and considering I paid cash and no discount, it was about the price we could buy them at—they were articles that could be bought at any place in London—I have got two elliptic stoves fixed in some of my houses that the prosecutors identified as coming from them, and they came from Mr. Eddowes, in the Kent Road.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not understand that they had been sold by the prosecutors to Mr. Eddowes—I know I bought them of Mr. Eddowes.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-73" type="surname" value="HOWARD"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-73" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HOWARD</persName> </hi>. I am a builder, of 23, Park Terrace, Bermondsey—I bought on three occasions of Hickley some stove metal, which was after wards put together—these are the three invoices and receipts, describing the goods and the prices—I gave him the money first to buy the metal with—the dates are 4th and 23rd September, and 7th October, and the amount 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the goods were used in the buildiugs 52, 54, and 56, Ray mouth Road, Bermondsey.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I had known Hickley before—I could have saved three half-crowns of the amount by buying at other places—I gave more than a fair price, and I have receipts in my pocket to prove it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-74" type="surname" value="ADAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-74" type="given" value="ABRAHAM"/>ABRAHAM ADAMS</persName> </hi>. I am foreman to Mr. Cowland, a builder at Notting Hill—he has been building some houses at Kingsbridge Terrace, Deptford Lower Road—on 6th June a number of stoves were delivered there; Hickley came with them and a carman—this is Hickley'a receipt for the money—5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid on account on 7th June, and 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 9th—the stoves were fixed in the shops at 1, 2, 3, and 4, Kingsbridge Terrace.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. We bought in the usual way—my master gave me the order to give to Hickley—we gave a fair price, the same price that we could have bought them at anywhere else, or we might even have got them a little cheaper.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-75" type="surname" value="HARLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-75" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD HARLAND</persName> </hi>. I am a builder, at White Horse Hill, Chislehurst—in July I bought of Hickley forty 30-inch ranges, registers, elliptic stoves, and two 8-gallon coppers—this is the invoice—I never knew Hickley before—a carpenter who worked for me recommended him, and he came to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>. I bought of him in the usual way; they were something under what I had had from Deane and Dray—about 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. difference.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I never bought of Hutchinson's or the Carrón Company, and know nothing of their prices.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-76" type="surname" value="SIMMONDS"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-76" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SIMMONDS</persName> </hi>. I am a builder, of 23, Fort Road, Bermondsey—I have been building some houses in the Raymouth Road—in July I bought of Hickley 2 cwt. of zinc, and three 18-inch elliptic stoves—this is the receipt—I gave 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the three stoves.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-77" type="surname" value="DAVIS"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-77" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HHNRY DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I am an ironmonger, of 288, Camber well Road—in August I bought some sash weights of Hickley, for which I paid him 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and he gave me this invoice and receipt—I did not get them particularly cheap—they were cheaper than Thames Street prices, perhaps 20 per cent., but only about 5 to 7 1/2 per cent below what we could buy them at.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. They were not old stock particularly sash weights are always saleable—they were a job lot for cash—I had known Hickley eighteen months or two years as dealing in this buisiness.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-78" type="surname" value="MACHIN"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-78" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD MACHIN</persName> </hi>. I am a builder in Lower Road, Deptford—I built the houses 5, 6, and 7, Kingsbridge Terrace—I bought some stoves of Hiokley—I always paid him before I had the goods—I had no dealings with him since last February.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-79" type="surname" value="BALLARD"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-79" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BALLARD</persName> </hi>. I am an ironmonger, in High Street, Peckham—I have bought sash weights of Hickley since June last, on about three occasions—I have not got his receipts—I bought 5 or 6 cwt. at a time, at 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—that was about 10 or 15 per cent, lower than Thames Street prices.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. They were not old stock—he said he had attended sales and got a job lot; an odd lot—I had not had many prior transactions with him—I had some—he always said they were odd lots.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">First Session</hi>, 1873—74.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-80" type="surname" value="BARTON"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-80" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN BARTON</persName> </hi>. I am an ironmonger, of 596, Old Kent Road—since June last I have bought goods of Hickley—I have some receipts here—here is one of 28th June for some gutter, 14 cwt., three or four sash weights at 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the wholesale price was not 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I could buy them at 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I did buy some at 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—thirty 3-inch pipes at 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and ten ditto at 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I don't see any receipt here after that, but I know what I purchased—very possibly I bought some sash weights.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I have had several dealings with Hickley for the last two years; in fact, I thought him so honest a man that I got 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for him from the Board of Benevolence to enable him to buy such lots as these.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-81" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-81" type="surname" value="HUTCHINSON"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-81" type="given" value="ALEXANDER PAUL"/>ALEXANDER PAUL HUTCHINSON</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with Mr. Batchelor—Newton has been in our service between four and five years, as warehouse
<lb/>man or porter, at 222, Upper Thames Street—no one slept on the premises—they were secured at night by locks and bars in the usual way—there was one outer key, which was entrusted to the clerk Humphries—7 o'clock was the time for Newton to come to his duties—we had another person, named Garland, in a similar position as porter or warehouseman—those were the only two—the others were young lads who assisted them—Newton had no right to take this money or make out invoices; that was the clerk's duty in the office—we have a large warehouse of five floors—after the warehouseman has gone round with the customer he has nothing more to do with the selling of the goods—he would communicate to the clerk what the man required—it would not be his duty to make any entry—all goods going out in a proper way, whether sold for cash or for credit, must be signed fur by the carman or the man who takes away the goods—I did not know of Humphries letting the prisoner have the key—it was not with my authority—I knew Hickley by sight, but not as a customer in any shape or way—as far as our books show, his only transactions were for a very few pieces of metal—the books are all here—he was not a credit customer at any time, and only a customer at all for trifling pieces-of metal; perhaps a few pounds, that he would pay 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., or 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for, and nothing at all for the last twelve or eighteen months—Newton was given into custody on Thursday morning, 9th October—Garland was in the warehouse at the time—he came back in the morning for about ten minutes, and then went off, and we have never seen him since—Hickley was taken the same morning—we had employed a detective—I have been to Mr. Cowland's houses, 1, 2, 3, and 4, Kingabridge Terrace, and all the stoves there, from the top to the bottom of each house, I could swear to—the prices in Hickley's receipts are under our wholesale prices, on an average, 15 per cent, under—I also went to 52, 54, and 66, Ray mouth Road, and ten register stoves and 7 ranges I could swear to as our property, and the prices in Hickley's receipt are under price in the same proportion as the others—I went to four houses in Aspenden Road, and saw twelve stoves and eight cottage ranges fixed there also, which I could swear to as ours, aud as to the prices in the invoice I say the same—I went to Mr. Harland's, at Chislehurst, and in two cottages there found four ranges, two register stoves, and four elliptic stoves that were ours—I have also seen other property of ours at Simmonds', Mayer's, and other places, and I can swear that none of the property was sold by us—there are no traces of them in our books.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I never gave Hickley one of our circulars or a revised price-list—I don't think I have seen him in our</p>
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<p>warehouse more than once or twice in two years—I did not see him there two months ago.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-82" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-82" type="surname" value="BATCHELOR"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-82" type="given" value="EDWARD STRATTON"/>EDWARD STRATTON BATCHELOR</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with Mr. Hutchin son—I have heard his evidence—the property he has spoken of is the property of the firm, it has never been sold or entered—as to Hickley, he has had no transaction with us in the last eighteen months, and never more than to the amount of 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. We are not the makers—I went to the house of a person named Davison and identified some stoves and ranges, they were things that had come from a Mr. Eddowes, which we had supplied to him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-83" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-83" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-83" type="surname" value="HAWKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-83" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID HAWKINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Oficer</hi>). In consequence of instructions, I watched the prisoner's premises from 20th September to 9th October—I have seen Newton there the whole of that time, he has opened the outside padlock with a key every morning—I took him into custody at 9 o'clock—I found 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him—I also took Hickley, and found on him 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-84" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-84" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am London agent for the Carrón Company, in Thames Street—it is the largest iron concern in London—I have not seen the pro perty the subject of these invoices, but I know what builder's materials are and the prices—there is a class of goods bought by builders which no one in the trade can mistake, they generally buy the lowest priced articles—these invoices give the dimensions in inches of the stoves—the prices that I have heard quoted this morning are all below the current prices at that date those goods were bought—the lowest price for sash weights in Thames Street has been 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from 2nd June up to the present time—I have heard 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. as the price paid, generally speaking it is 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the lowest price for register stoves is 3 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. per inch—the price quoted here is less, and gutter is also quoted at less than the current price, and pipes also—here is an invoice of sash weights at 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I could not buy sash weights at any time during the period mentioned here at that price—there are about fifteen houses in Thames Street, but not one sold at that price—there are very seldom any second-hand sash weights, you may sometimes have them in getting down old buildings, but they are articles that are never in the market, builders generally appropriate them for new buildings—in thirty eight years' experience I never heard of a job lot of sash weights—I say that all these things are below the lowest current price, that is, the price at which I should sell to an ironmonger to sell again.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Hickley received a good character.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEWTON</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HICKLEY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted for
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18731124-18-offence-1 t18731124-cd-3"/>9th October</rs>, six metal sash weights, three coppers, and other goods, of the same persons.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-87" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID HAWKINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Officer</hi>). On the morning of 9th Qctober, I was watching the prosecutor's premises—I saw Newton go to the ware house about 7 o'clock, unlock the door, and go in—in about four minutes, Hickley went into the warehouse to him—in about four minutes he came out again, crossed the road, and fetched a costermonger's barrow to the door—he and Newton then brought out six large sash weights, weighing 24 lbs. each, and put them on the truck; this (
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<p>Street, where I stopped him—I asked where be got the goods from—he said from Messrs. Batchelor and Hutchmsons'—I asked if he had a bill or invoice—he said—"No; I have paid K, and I shall pay the residue in the afternoon."—took him to the station with the goods—I found 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10 1/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him, but no memorandum relating to the things—about 10 o'clock the same morning, I went back to the warehouse and saw Newton in the count ing-house—he knew me well—I told him to stop there, and said "Did you sell any goods to a man this morning?"—he said "Yes"—I said "How much for?"—he said "He has paid me 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>."—Mr. Batchelor then came in and gave him into custody—I found on him 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am positive he did not say 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he was not agitated, he seemed very quiet.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-88" type="given" value="HENRY NEWMAN"/>HENRY NEWMAN HUMPHRIRS</persName> </hi>. I am clerk in the prosecutor's employ—there was one other clerk—it was my duty to unlock the premises in the morning on 9th October—Garland had the key of the padlock—I had given it to him some months previously—I was not aware that Newton had it—I got to the premises a few minutes to 9 o'clock on this morning—Newton was there, preparing a load for the van, his ordinary duty—he did not com municate to me the sale of these articles, or say anything about it—he did not hand over any money, or say that he had any to hand over.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Garland was in the service at this time—Newton was in the habit of selling things, but he had no right to do so—I have received money from him; that never happened with Garland.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When Newton was there of a morning, he has several times taken small amounts, which he paid to me on my entering the ware house at 9 o'clock; by small amounts I mean under a sovereign—he has never paid me more than that—to the best of my belief an entry would be made in the cash sale book before I took the money from him; I should make the entry on his telling me the goods he had sold—he did not tell me anything about these goods—I never communicated to my em ployers that I had taken money of him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-89" type="given" value="EDWARD STRATTON"/>EDWARD STRATTON BATCHELOR</persName> </hi>. I was not aware that Humphries had given the key to Garland, or that he was not present at the opening of the warehouse—he was in charge of the warehouse, specially for the purpose of opening it in the morning—I have seen this property; its value is 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I was called down at 9 o'clock, after the officers arrived, and gave Newton into custody—he said he meant to pay for the goods, that he had been paid 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for them—I afterwards went to the station and found Hickley in custody—he said he had paid 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on account—I had not given orders that goods should not be sold to Hickley.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-90" type="given" value="ALEXANDER PAUL"/>ALEXANDER PAUL HUTCHINSON</persName> </hi>. I gave instructions that goods should not be sold to Hickley either for cash or credit.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-18-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HICKLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-18-18731124 t18731124-18-punishment-13"/>Six years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANDREW HILLIER</hi> (38)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PLATT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLOTTE</hi> Moss. I am the wife of John Henry Moss, a baker, of 5, Crossley Road—the prisoner was our foreman, and the prosecutor was also employed in the bakehouse—on Saturday, 25th October, between 4 and 5 o'clock in the afternoon, I heard them quarrelling when I went</p>
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<p>down stairs for some water; they were speaking in German, and I could not understand it—the prisoner was the worse for drink—I told the prosecutor not to say anything to him, as he was the worse for liquor—the prisoner was sitting on the trough with a knife in his hand—something was said which I did not understand, and he jumped down and immediately stabbed the prosecutor; I could not tell exactly where—I tried to get the prosecutor away—I saw the prisoner clearly strike him with the knife; three times I believe.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner had been at work since Friday night at 11 o'clock—the prisoner was not eating anything with the knife as he sat on the trough—I did not see the prosecutor catch hold of him to pull him off—the prisoner was given into custody on the following Tuesday; I don't know why he was not given into custody before—I sent for the prosecutor's wife and a doctor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-93" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SIETTER</persName> </hi>. I live at 37, Wellington Road, Islington, and am in Mr. Moss's employ—the prisoner and I used to work together; he was the foreman—on Saturday, 25th October, we were in the bakehouse between 4 and 5 o'clock, he was tipsy, and on that account I was obliged to send for my master to do the work, he did it and then went out—I was sitting on the trough, the prisoner was near me—I got down and said to him," Take care of your work, or else you will have to pay if you spoil any more to night"—as soon as I had said that, he jumped up from the trough with the knife in his hand, and stabbed me on the shoulder—he stabbed me three times; on the shoulder, in the back, and a slight wound on the top of my head—I ran up stairs, and the doctor came and dressed my wounds.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had been in the prisoner's company from 11 o'clock on the Friday night—we had a half-gallon of beer at dinner-time on Satur day, which we always had—I don't know anything about a second half gallon—I don't recollect the master coming down and asking why it was all drank and none left for him—I was out when the prisoner sent for the second half-gallon—when I returned I spoke to him in German—I did not use any strong language—I said "Had you not time the night before to get drunk?"—I did not catch hold of his legs or neck and pull him off the trough; I did not touch him—I know Peter the apprentice—I did not say to him next day that I did not know who was to blame; I never said that—Mr. Moss did not arrange with me that I was to have 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he gave my wife 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on the Saturday night; I don't know that that was the prisoner's wages—after he was given in charge the solicitor came to me to settle it; I said it could not be settled—I did not strike the apprentice on the Satur day afternoon before this happened; I did not say I would beat him too if he interfered—I do not know Frantz Obeist—I never said to him, or to anyone, that I did not know whose fault it was, and that I struck the pri soner first and seized him by the throat; it is all invention.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-94" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-94" type="surname" value="SCAIFE"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-94" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SCAIFE</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, of 6, Westbourne Road, Barnsbury—on Saturday, 25th October, between 4 and 5 o'clock, I was called to see the prosecutor—I found him in the parlour, lying on a couch—I found a small wound on the back of the left side, 3 inches long, and 2 1/2 inches deep; another on the top of the left shoulder, about 1 inch long, and about 2 inches deep; and a very slight wound on the head—this knife (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) would be likely to cause such wounds—they were not in themselves dangerous.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> They might have been inflicted accidentally, the one in the back; but that on the shoulder I should say very improbably—there is the least probability in the world—I put them down as stabs.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-95" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-95" type="surname" value="BOWLES"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-95" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BOWLES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant G</hi> 22). On Tuesday, 28th October, I was called by the prosecutor's wife to the King's Head public-house—she pointed out the prisoner, and gave him into custody for stabbing her hus band—he made some rambling statement which I could not understand—he spoke in English.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-96" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-96" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-96" type="surname" value="DEIDRICH"/>
<interp inst="t18731124-name-96" type="given" value="PETER"/>PETER DEIDRICH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Interpreted by one of the Jury</hi>). I was at the bake house on the Saturday morning up to 1 o'clock, but not when this took place—the prosecutor gave me a push—the prisoner said "Let the boy alone"—the prosecutor said "Shut up, or I will come after you"—the mistress then took hold of me by the arm, and led me out into the shop—I came back after it had happened; it was about fifteen minutes after I was led out that I saw the man was injured—I saw him up stairs in the parlour, and he showed me where he had been stabbed—two half-gallons of ale had been sent for that day—the prisoner paid for one and the pro secutor for the other—the prosecutor was not quite sober, I think—I went with the prisoner on the Sunday afternoon to visit the prosecutor—he said he did not know how it happened, and the prisoner said the same—they spoke very friendly together—the prosecutor came back to work on the Wednesday week after.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-97" type="given" value="FRANTS"/>FRANTS OBERST</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Interpreted</hi>). The prosecutor told me that it was more his fault, that he had got hold of the prisoner by the neck or the throat, that he had the knife in his hand, eating bread and butter—he said "The prisoner came to my bed and cried about it twice. I will arrange it all; he shall get off. I win not leave him in the lurch"—this was ten days after the occurrence.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-98" type="given" value="PETER"/>PETER KLEIN</persName> </hi>. I know the prisoner and prosecutor—on Sunday evening, a week after this had happened, the prosecutor said to me that it was were his fault than the prisoner's, that he was not charged through him, but through his master and mistress, and he would get him out again, he would not come against him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner received a good character.</hi></p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-101" type="given" value="ROSINA"/>ROSINA GARNSEY</persName> </hi>. The prisoner is my husband—on 18th October, about the middle of the day, he came home drank—fee laid down en the bed and slept for about two honre—while he was asleep I removed some money from his pocket—when he awoke he seemed in a very confused state—he de manded the money from me, And I refused to give it him several times he took a knife out of his pocket and opened it—I don't remember his saying "I will stab you"—I said "I won't give it, I would rather be killed than give you the money"—he then stabbed me, after some words between us—we were both in a temper—I ran down stairs, and met a fellow lodger coming up—I don't think I fainted entirely away—my mother was present at this time; she stood by the side of me, and he struck her with the knife.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have been married two years and two or three months</p>
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<p>—I have only been confined a fortnight—he has always been a good hus band to me, and always brought me his money, except when he has been in liquor—he was always kind and affectionate—he never lifted his hand to me before this—his father has been for thirty years senior carpenter at the Italian Opera House, Covent Garden, and he has been working for him—I told the Magistrate that he seemed to wake up mad—he lost a good deal of money in a business, which greatly preyed on his mind—at times his mind has been disturbed—on this occasion he had been out and pawned some articles and got drunk—he was annoyed at my finding the ticket.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-102" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD COLVBN</persName> </hi>. I live at 33, Devonshire Street, Queen Square—on 18th Ootober, about 4 o'clock in the afternoon, I heard screams proceeding from up stairs—I went up and saw the last witness on the third step, trying to come down stairs—she seemed to be in a swoon—I caught her in my arms—she had a child in her arms—I saw blood on her clothes—I carried her down stairs, and placed her on a sofa, and went for a doctor and a constable—I and the constable went up stairs and saw the prisoner—I said "What have you done?"—he turned round in rather a confused state and said "I don't know what I have done; what have I done?"—I said "You have stabbed your wife, where is the knife?"—he said "I have not any knife"—we took him down the yard—another constable came, and I said "You had better let us know where the knife is; we shall search your place right through—he said "It is up there, under the window"—I and the con stable went up, and behind a box we found this knife, wiped, and put away behind some boxes—I opened it; it was smeared with blood, and had got a lot of fluff on it—there was blood on the landing between the rooms, but it had been wiped up, and there was blood all down the stairs.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner seemed to be very absent when I first addressed him—he said "What have I done? I must have done something very bad. What is it?"—the furniture in the room seemed disturbed; but the place was very clean and nice.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-103" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY HOBBS</persName> </hi>. On 18th October I was in my daughter's room—the prisoner came home drunk and laid on the bed a little after 1 o'clock—he got up about 4.30—I think he and his wife had some dispute about money—I could not hear, but I fancied so—(
<hi rend="italic">this witness was very deaf</hi>)—he took a knife out of his pocket and stabbed his wife, and just as I was going out of the bedroom door he stabbed me in my back, my arm, and my side.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I think they could all have been inflicted in one minute by a violently excited person—I think I may say they have both recovered.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 508). On Sunday morning, 31st October, about 11 o'clock, I was on duty in Marsh Lane, Stratford, and saw the prisoner at a ditch behind a fence in an enclosed ground belonging to the Metropolitan Board of Works; he was pulling some rope from the ditch—I secreted myself for some time—he left the stage, stopped and wiped his hands with some grass, and walked from the slope of the sewer on to the top, turned round and returned to the spot where I first saw him, and commenced handling the rope a second time—I then approached him and asked why he was there on enclosed premises, and how he same possessed of the rope—he said he was walking on the sewer and saw it in the ditch, and went down and pulled it out, and was waiting there for a man named Perkins, to assist him in removing it to Perkins's house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not know then that he was in the employ of the Board of Works; I have heard it since.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), it is Mr. Wilson's property—I last saw it on 25th October, and on the Monday it was gone.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Page, and</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi> 130). About 8.30 on the morning of 21st October, I was on duty in London Wall with Harding—I saw Moses carrying a bag, and followed him along into Widegate Street, Bishopsgate, where I stopped him—I asked him what was in the bag, he said "Remnants of cloth"—I asked him where he got them from—he said "From a ware house in the City"—I asked where the warehouse was, and he said it was somewhere near H. E. and M. Moses and Sons, clothiers, and the man who gave them to him was Page, and he worked for a Mr. Meyer—he said after wards that Page had called on him that morning at his own residence, Montague. Street, Whitechapel, and told him to come to the warehouse along with him—I took him to the station, searched him, and found 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him—he gave his address 1, Old Montague Street, Whitechapel—I found in the bag six pieces of cloth, measuring 12 3/4 yards, three pieces of Italian cloth, and four pieces of lining, and at his lodging I found two yards of tweed, 1 1/2 yards nap cloth, and materials for three coats.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 106). I was with Goldey—I went about 11 o'clock to the warehouse of Messrs. Meyer, 4, Wells Street, Falcon Square—I saw Page there—I told him I was a police officer, and I should take him into custody for stealing a quantity of cloth from his mas ter's warehouse that morning—he said "I gave Moses a piece of cloth to</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-114" type="given" value="HENRY SPRAY"/>HENRY SPRAY KEMP</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Messrs. Meyer & Co., 4, Wells Street, Falcon Square, wholesale clothiers—Page has been in their employ twelve or fourteen years—he commenced as errand boy, and afterwards he was cutter and foreman—it was his duty to take in work, and to give out work in my absence, and cut out work—we give the cloth out in cut gar ments; they are cut before they go out—Moses was one of our work-people for about four or five years—he had work for us at the time he was taken into custody—we have goods in stock like these goods which were found in the bag—they are not cut at all, and would not be given out for making boys' trousers—we have goods in stock like these, with the exception of this piece of velveteen—the value of the goods found in the bag is 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I see here 2 yards of tweed materials for three coats, and 1 1/2 yards of nap cloth—I took patterns of them and compared them with our stock—they match exactly—when they were shown to me I knew that they were common goods used throughout the trade, but there was one piece which we had had for five years—the value of those goods is about 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the value of the goods found in Page's house, without the velveteen, would be about 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—we have things such as those in stock—Page had no authority to give these goods to Moses—this bag is ours.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>. I have compared the velveteen since the examination at the Police Court, and I have doubts about its being ours—the other things are worth 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that includes the little boy's coat—I don't know that Page has got a little boy—his hours were from 8.30 till we had finished work in the evening—we don't make for private customers but for shops—Page has given great satisfaction as a cutter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. This is not a proper bag to take these things about in, because the fluff would come off and spoil some of the light goods—we have not a very large business; we make for all the shops we can—I can hardly say how many garments are made up in the course of the day—we have got stuff like this in stock, and so have a great many other people—Page gave goods out in my absence, but not without entering them in a book—if goods were sent out they would have to be entered in a book, and a ticket given to the person and the counterfoil kept—I have not the counterfoil for the three coats—they have not been entered.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners received good charactert.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, November</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi>). On 18th September, I was at Southgate Police Station when the prisoner came in, between 11. 50 and 12 o'clock—he spoke to the sergeant, and said that he wanted a policeman to go</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money—another policeman asked him if he had any marks of violence; he did not answer that, but said that as he was passing Air. Graves' house, two men came out from a ditch, caught him by the back of his neck, and threw him on his back; that one of them was Brown, and the other a man with dark whiskers—the constable took him to the gas and said "If you have been on your back there must be some dirt on your coat," but he could not find any, or any signs of injuries—I asked him if he could swear to Brown—he said "Yes," and that while he was on his back they knelt on his chest; that be could not say which man took his money, but that Brown said "I owe you a grudge, and now I will pay you"—the constable cautioned him several times—we had to pass the spot to go to Brown's house; we examined with a lantern, but saw no marks of any scuffle—he said "This is the spot," and pointed with his finger—the constable turned his light on to the ditch, and we saw what we imagined were footsteps; we remained at the spot till daylight, when they seemed to be the footmarks of children gathering blackberries—we took Brown the same morning—he was in bed; he said that he had not seen Cavill that day—Cavill said "You know you have. Brown, and you have robbed me of my watch and money"—I took Brown to the station—the spot pointed out to me was about 30 yards from Mr. Graves' house and 300 or 400 yards from Brown's house—there are two other houses there inhabited.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The scene of the robbery was not laid at an unlikely spot at all—Cavill appeared quite calm and collected when he told me about it—I said to him repeatedly "This is a very serious charge you are making against a respectable man"—Mr. Peckham appeared for him before the Magistrate, and said that he had made enquiries into Brown's character, and found him to be a respectable man; the charge was immediately with
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner had appeared before the Magistrate a week before that, and sworn to Brown being the person who had stolen his watch and money.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman, Y</hi> 23). I am stationed at Southgate—on the morning of 19th September the prisoner made a charge—I went and examined the spot, and Brown was brought to the station in custody—I was present next day when Brown was charged with being concerned with another man, not in custody, with assaulting George Cavill, and stealing a silver watch and chain, and 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money, at Hopper's Road, Palmer's Green—Cavill was sworn, and said that he was passing Palmer's Green, between 10 and 11 o'clock, on the evening of 18th September, that two persons were standing in a ditch, one of whom caught him by the back of his neck, so that he fell on his back, and that Brown knelt on his chest and got hold of his hands, and he was robbed of his watch and 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money, and that Brown said "Cavill, I owe you a spite, and now I will give it yon"—Brown was admitted to bail—I was present on the remand day, when Mr. Peckham appeared, and the charge was withdrawn.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw Cavill sworn—the oath was "The evidence you shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God"—he kissed the book and gave his evidence—I cannot say that the book was a testament, but it was the same that the other witnesses were sworn on.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-118" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I live at Palmer's Green, Edmonton—I was in Mr. Graves'</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was summoned by his master at the same timefor cruelty to a horse; that was also dismissed—I know nothing about thehorse running away, I only know that he took the horse out without leave—I saw the cart come home broken to pieces—I don't know that the prisonerwas pitched out upon his head, or that he was laid up afterwards, but Ilost sight of him for a few days—he went about as usual, and he played ina cricket match after that.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-119" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WHEELER</persName> </hi>. I am head ostler at the Green Dragon, Winchmore Hill—the prisoner came there on 13th September, about 6 p. m., and leftabout 11. 20—I know that because I took the pot in from which he hadbeen drinking outside—the house was closed at 11, and they were all turnedout—the prisoner was sober; I noticed nothing in his manner—he wentaway with Wallege and Anderson.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw Cavill with a sovereign and about 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth ofsilver, and I saw his chain but not his watch.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-120" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WALLEGE</persName> </hi>. I live at Winchmore Hill—on this Thursday evening I was at the Green Dragon with Cavill—I left with him, and walked withhim nearly half a mile—I left him at the corner of Highfield Road, morethan a quarter of a mile from Mr. Graves's—he appeared perfectly sober—hewould have to pass Mr. Graves's to get to Southgate Station from where Ileft him—I noticed nothing particular about him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known him eight or nine years; he has alwaysborne an honest character—I heard of the accident—I was with him from 7 to 11 that night; I did not see his watch.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 318). I am stationed at Southgate—on 18th September I was on duty, and the prisoner came to me and said thathe had been assaulted and robbed, and he wanted a constable to take Brown in custody for assaulting and robbing him, in concert with anotherman—I said "If you have been knocked down and robbed you will havemarks of violence; "and I asked him if he came straight to the station—he said "No, I went home first"—I asked him if he had changed his coat—he said "No"—he came to the station about 11. 50—Mr. Graves's is abouta mile and a quarter from the station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner lives at the back of the police-station—Ithought it strange for him to go home first.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 213). I was on duty in the neighbour
<lb/>hood of Mr. Graves's house from 10. 15 till 11 o'clock—I saw nobody hang
<lb/>ing about—if there had been anything happening, I must have heard it—I have had no description of the man who is said to have assisted Brown inrobbing Cavill.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<lb/>tion for a few weeks after I saw him was most probably one of great peril—he might be, during the following few weeks, utterly unaccountable for hisactions, and liable to hallucinations.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> By "hallucinations "I mean having mistaken ideas—he would not know what he was doing very often any more than a drunkenman—I have heard the facts of this case, and I think it did happen—Ibelieve the man was robbed, and that, to a certain point, he swore whatwas correct, in that he said that lie had been robbed—he might easily bemistaken about who the man was who did it, although, when kneeling uponhim, he said "I owe you a grudge, and now I will pay you."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Concussion of the brain would produce derangement ofthought and ideas—if a man's mind has been shocked by a concussion ofthe brain, he is liable afterwards to various fancies and hallucinations—Idon't know any difference between a delusion and an hallucination—concussion of the brain, such as to produce the state of insensibility andprostration in which I saw him, would be liable so to affect his brain thathe would imagine things afterwards which did not take place.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you had any patients who have exhibited suchsymptoms?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I speak more from reading than observation—I should notconsider this to have been congestion of the brain unless it produced in
<lb/>sensibility—a person may be injured, and the symptons may come onafterwards and be intermittent; they would come on without any apparentcause.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-125" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK REED</persName> </hi>. I am a licentiate of the Royal College of Physicians and., of the Apothecaries' Company—I was called in to see the defendant on August 14th, and attended him three weeks and probably more—I foundhim in bed and very drowsy—his skin was cold and clammy, and he was ina state of partial coma; his sensible powers were deranged, he bad partialparalysis in his lower extremities, and everything consistent with irritationof the brain—there was also a good deal of pyema or blood poisoningabout him, which is a sympton of concussion of the brain—concussionof the brain would produce the symptoms I saw—he will be liable to fee</p>
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<p>the effects of the concussion for some considerable time, according to theinjury done, and the slightest excess or stimulant will create wanderingand confusion—I do not think he is cured now—a person suffering fromconcussion of the brain, and in the state I saw him, would be liable todelusions and hallucinations, especially if excited by drink—any excitablecause might produce a delusion—if he was hustled and robbed, that wouldunbalance his mind, or if he had had any drink that night; any irritabilityof the mind or sudden excitement would do it—it would not be an extra
<lb/>ordinary delusion at all if he imagined the whole thing—he was as likelyto imagine that as anything else, even that he was Emperor of China—there is no accounting for delusions.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have had cases of hallucination under my notice at St Bartholomew's Hospital—I mean wandering of the mind—fancying himself Emperor of China would be a delusion—consistentlywith his being irresponsible, he might have imagined all this and repeatedit verbatim the following morning before the Magistrate—he might beunder any form of hallucination for any time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> A delusion may hang about a man's mind for an indefinitetime, till he is permanently insane—I am a pupil of Sir James Paget—Ihave known, in St. Bartholomew's Hospital, delusions of the wildestcharacter, one man said that God Almighty had given him an order to getsome oysters, and be believed that for two months.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-126" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH MASSINGHAM</persName> </hi>, M.R.C.S. In the first week in September I was taken down to see the prisoner—I found him in a state of great physical and mental debility—I should suppose he had received a concussion of the brain some time previously, and he would be liable for years to strong delusions and empty imaginations.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Might he, without having committed wilful perjury, have imagined this highway robbery. Do you consider it consistent with what you saw in the first week in September?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, November</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 145). I heard a cry of "Stop thief!" andsaw the prisoner running towards me—I ran across the street, and stoppedhim as he was running very fast—I waited till Mrs. Smith came up, and shesaid she had lost a bundle, and she had a bruise on her hand—the prisonersaid he had pushed against the woman as he was running along—Mrs. Smithbrought the bundle up—the witnesses were perfectly sober.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi> A. B.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. FRITH</hi>
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<lb/>tomer would, he said he should like to see another one marked on the cardtwenty-five guineas—I took it from the window, and handed it to him—hehad no sooner received it in his left hand than he took the right hand fromhis side, and dashed an immense quantity of snuff straight in my face—Iwas almost blinded at the time—he rushed from the shop with the two ringson his hand and the one on the card—I went after him as well as I could, and called "Stop thief!" directly I got out of the shop—I saw Savage seizehim at the end of the street—I pursued him as long as I could—he threwsnuff in the eyes of Savage—Savage held him till assistance came—I tookadvantage of the opportunity, and got the snuff from my eyes and mouth—I saw the police take two rings from him—I was certain he had three, and I went back to the shop and found he had taken three, and directly I gotback to the station a little girl brought in the ring on the card—these arethe rings-they are the property of Mrs. Smith.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not notice anything peculiar in the prisoner'smanner—he was most gentlemanly in his way, or I should not have thoughtof showing him such valuable things—my sight has not been permanentlyinjured—I believe he took the snuff from his pocket when my back wasturned—that was the first time I had seen him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My sight was very queer the day after—I don't feel anyeffects from the snuff now.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have made inquiries respecting the prisoner—I wentto Mr. Greatorex, Mr. Philipson, and Mr. Bryant, and they said they hadknown him for some time, and ware quite surprised at the charge; as faras my inquiries have gone up to this time he has been an honest man.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-152" type="given" value="MATILDA"/>MATILDA DELAMERE</persName> </hi>. I picked up this ring, and took it to the police-station.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-30-18731124 t18731124-30-punishment-22"/>twice Flogged; on each occasion to receive Twenty Lashes</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">Interpreted</hi>). I live at 104, Brompton Road, and keep a cigar warehouse—I have known the prisoner about nine months—I employed him as interpreter, and about the lease of a house—on 1st October I entrusted him with some pawn tickets—he made this list of them (
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<p>pledge—he told me he had seen Mr. Haynes, and would on the next daybring me 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I next saw him at the police-station—I never authorisedhim to sign my name to any document—this is not my signature on theback of this cheque—the value of the articles referred to in the pawn ticketswas a great deal more than 200
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I instructed You to raise 300
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—you wereintroduced to me by a friend, and afterwards you became my interpreter—I don't recollect that you wrote a letter to my landlord about the house—if you signed my name to it I never authorised you to do so; such a thingnever was done in my presence, nor by my authority—I required a car-penter to do some work, and I asked you to get me one—I paid you forthat—I paid you every time you asked me for money—I never had anyaccount with you—I paid you 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. during the six weeks you werewith me—I never asked for any receipt—it is true that I required "credit" from the carpenter—you procured that credit for me; I paid half themoney—I also wanted a gasfitter and you brought one to my house—you also obtained credit for me, I paying half the money—Mr. Haynesrequired a security, and Mr. Lows was that security—he is a friendof mine; I have known him about six years—he was living in my houseas lodger for a little while—there was a quarrel between you and Mr. Lows about my bill of sale—it is true you had an appointment with Mr. Smith the next day—we went to Mr. Smith; he had paid for me 103
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I received 147
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., for which I had to sign a document amounting to thesum of 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for three months, and 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. interest—I gave you 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. that day, and opened an account with the 140
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—you went to interpret for me when I went to buy goods—I promised you five per cent, on the sum I got creditfor, not for the money I paid down—I bought cigars at Mr. Woolf's oncredit, by paying 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. down and 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the week following—the invoice wasabout 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it is true I gave you a cheque to take to Mr. Woolf—you re
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. atthe end of the week, which I gave you—there was certainly a dispute thatday between us, because you asked me for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and I only gave you 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. but I afterwards gave you 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. more, and there were 5
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., he kept them assecurity—you said Mr. Haynes wanted more security, and I gave you thepawn tickets to give to him—there were fourteen tickets, twelve English andtwo French ones—the day before you were arrested Mr. Haynes asked meif I had received the cheque for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. which he had sent me, and that washow you were found out—I did not give you any lace to pledge—I gavesome to Mr. Lows to pledge; it is possible you went with him, but I neverasked you to do so—I owe you nothing at all; perhaps 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., that is all.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not give the prisoner any authority to sign my nameto any document relating to money—it was nineteen or twenty daysafter I gave him the pawn tickets that I saw him at the station-house.</p>
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<p>Sternay to know if Mr. Haynes would advance her dome 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Iheard what he had to say, and made an appointment to be at Madame Sternay's next morning—I went there and saw her, having previously hada conversation with Mr. Haynes—I heard what she had to say and told her I would report to Mr. Haynes and let her know—next day the prisonercame, and Mr. Haynes told him he declined to make any further advanceto Madame Sternay without some kind of security—the prisoner said "Verywell, I will see you in a few days and bring some security"—he came on the 7th, and produced 10 yards of black lace, a silver-mounted fan, three em
<lb/>broidered sheets, and two damask table cloths—he said he had come from Madame Sternay—I told him Mr. Haynes had left for home, and askedhim what he required—he said Madame Sternay required 28
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said, if Madame liked, I would draw him a cheque on my own private bank for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., he had better leave what he had security, and I requested him to bring Madame Sternay's promissory note for the amount in the morning—I drewa cheque to her order—he said "I will take this to her, and bring you herpromissory note for the amount in the morning"—this is the cheque I drew, it has been returned to me from my banker's, paid.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I did not lend money on the pawntickets, but I took them as security—the cheque was to Madame Sternay'sorder, and as it was past banking hours I knew you could not cash it, andtold you to bring the note in the morning—I asked where Madame hadobtained the things, or whether you had taken them out of pledge—Iadvanced the 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to oblige Madame Sternay, as I thought, and it was to beall arranged when the bill of sale fell due on 16th of this month; it wasunderstood that she would not be in a position to pay the 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the twoloans were to be amalgamated—Mr. Haynes one morning went up to see Madame, and he then found that she had not had the money—very likely aweek had transpired—we were perfectly satisfied holding the collateral security.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I saw the prisoner three or four days after I gave him the 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque—he brought another lot of goods, and said he wanted 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I refused to do it—I next saw him in custody.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). I took the prisoner into custody onthe 17th, about 8.30 am., in Camber well Road—I told him I should takehim for stealing a cheque for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the property of Madame Sternay—hesaid "I had a cheque from Mr. Smith for Madame Sternay, and I cashed itat the London and County Bank in the City, as Madame owes me a greatdeal of money, and in fact owes me money still"—I took him to the stationand found eleven pawnbroker's duplicates, six of which have been identifiedby Madame Sternay as her property.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner, in a long address, stated that he believed he had authority to sign the cheque, as he had signed other documents for Madame Sternay, and that she owed him money at the time.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, November</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Quain.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-163" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WITHERS</persName> </hi>. I was house-surgeon at the London Hospital on Saturday morning, 25th October, about 12. 45, when the deceased Charles Wilson was brought in—he had a punctured wound in the abdomen, on theleft side of the navel—he died on the evening of the 25th, of peritonitis, accelerated by the shock of the injury—the wound might be caused by sucha knife as this (
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-164" type="given" value="ELIJAH"/>ELIJAH LANGLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a seaman—I live at 174, 81 George's Street—Iknew the deceased for four or five days before his death—he was about twenty-four years of age—he lodged opposite—on Friday night, 24th October! Iwas at the Hoop and Grapes with him, Otter, Carey, the prisoner, two girls, and another black man—we were having a drink—about 11.30 we camefrom there and went to the Bell Music Hall—we left the Bell about 12o'clock—when we came outside, the prisoner shook hands with all of us—we were all sober—the prisoner had treated us at the Hoop and Grapes, and also at the Bell—he asked us what ship we were going in—I told him the
<hi rend="italic">St. Paul</hi>—he said that was a b----American packet ship, he had beenin her before—I said "Never mind, as long as we can do our work"—hewas going home with the two females, and Wilson went up to him and said "Mind your coat"—the girls said "What the b----hell has it to do withyou?"—the prisoner said nothing—Wilson afterwards went up toshake hands with him, he offered his right hand, and the prisoner said "No; Idon't shake hands with American rats"—Wilson went up to him again andasked him to shake hands, and the prisoner said "I will give you thenearest hand to my heart"—they did not shake hands—I went up andpulled Wilson away—the prisoner then pulled a knife from underneath hissleeve and made a stab at me—the knife went right through my shirt—Itumbled and fell down, and no sooner was I down, than Wilson fell on thetop of me, and said "My belly is out"—I saw him stabbed before that, as Iwas trying to get up—he went up to catch hold of the prisoner, and he putthe knife into his belly, and then he fell on me—I saw the knife—this is it—Otter came up and caught hold of the prisoner by the collar, and theprisoner drew the knife right across his arm and cut his arm—Carey thenwent up and made a hit at the prisoner, and he stabbed Carey in the side, and ran away—I did not hear him say a word—the two women stood onthe pathway while this was going on, and they went away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi>—I have told all I know about it—no onetook hold of me and said I was ill-using you—you threw me down once, nottwice—when we came out of the Bell, I told Wilson to come home to theboarding-house; it was only about fifty or sixty yards off—there was onlyme, Otter, Carey, and the two girls there when Wilson was stabbed, nostrangers, only Mrs. White and her daughter—she brought out a chair for</p>
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<p>Wilson—another coloured man came out of the Hoop and Grapes with you, but he went the other way, he did not come down the same way as we did—I am sure you are the man that stabbed Wilson.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>. The knife was thrown down on the path, and a manpicked it up and gave it to the constable after the prisoner had run away—I am sure the prisoner is the man that did this; the other coloured manwas older, and his head was bent—he was steward of a ship—I have seenhim out in China—the two women had been in the prisoner's company atthe Bell—we had beer and spirits at the public-houses, but none of us werethe worse for drink.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 485). I was at the London Hospital when Mr. Paget, the Magistrate, took down Wilson's examination, and saw Wilsonmake his mark—the prisoner was present and cross-examined him. (
<hi rend="italic">The statement of the deceased was as follows</hi>:—"That man (pointing to theprisoner) put a knife right into the inside of me. I do not know whatmade him do it I never saw the man before. It was in the street, lastnight I do not know what time exactly. I had not been fighting withanybody. He did not say anything to me. He had two or three ship
<lb/>mates, who stood and looked on at the tame time. Two or three of myshipmates were with me."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the prisoner</hi>—"I am quitesure the prisoner is the man that stabbed me. I was with you in thestreet when it happened—I do not know if the men with you were yourshipmates.")—On Saturday morning, 25th October, about 12. 20, I was in St. George's Street—I saw nothing of the disturbance—the sergeant cameto me and told me that three or four men had been stabbed—I went into Old Gravel Lane, and from there into Pennington Street, and then I sawthe prisoner, that was about 300 or 400 yards from where the disturbancetook place—he was knocking at some shutters—I asked him what he wasdoing there—he said he wanted to go in—he put his hand behind him—I saw something fall, and said "What is that?"—he said "Nothing"—Ilooked on the ground and saw this knife; it was closed—I then caughthold of him, and held him till a man came up—I told him to pick it upand put it into his pocket, and assist me with the prisoner to the station—I told the prisoner I should take him into custody on suspicion of havingstabbed three or four men in St George's Street—the man gave me theknife at the station—I examined it, it was not wet—it had marks on itthat appeared to be blood—it was dry, there was no dampness whateverabout it that I could observe—it had been in the man's pocket—theprisoner was perfectly sober and in no way excited—he had no cap on—hedid not appear exhausted, as if he had been running.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CAREY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">were called, but it was stated that they had gone to sea.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-168" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, and live at 157, St. George's Street</p>
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<p>—on Saturday morning, 25th October, about 12. 20, the young man whowas stabbed came to my window, and seeing he was very bad, I fetchedhim a chair to sit on, and two policemen took him away—I had heard adisturbance and went to my door; I saw no fight, but the prisoner was inthe position of stabbing with his arm raised, and I saw him draw his handdown like that (
<hi rend="italic">describing it</hi>) against Wilson—I did not hear any words—the one who was stabbed in the elbow (
<hi rend="italic">Otter</hi>) came to look where it was, and I saw the blood running down his arm.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not see you cut anyone; I saw you in the positionof stabbing—I did not see any knife in your hand, it was too dark for meto see it—I heard Wilson say he was stabbed when he came to my window; that was after you had run away—it lasted about four or five minutes—Inever saw you before—I am sure you are the man; I saw the officer bringyou back afterwards—there was a gas-light in the street, and in my window—you were about 10 yards off; I took particular notice of you.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant K</hi> 6). I met the prisoner in thecustody of Cooper, going to the station—Cooper said "All right, sergeant., I have got him, and I have got the knife, too"—the prisoner said "Yes, that is my knife, I bought it two or three weeks ago, it is my sea knife"—when I got to the station I took the knife and held it up to the light to seeif there was any blood upon it, and the prisoner said "It is no use yourlooking at it, there is no blood on it, for I never used it, you have made amistake in the man altogether"—I asked him if he bad a pocket handker-chief or a cap—he said he had got a pocket handkerchief—I said "Will youshow it to me?"—he searched in his pockets and could not find it—I thensearched him and could find no handkerchief—the knife appeared as if ithad been wiped; it was streaked right along—I found nothing on him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-170" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK ALEXANDER</persName> </hi>. I am a stevedore, and live at 83, Cannon Street Road—on Friday night, 24th October, about 11.30, I was in the Hoop and Grapes—the prisoner was there—he came out in companywith two young women—I bade him good night at the door—I had beenlaughing at him inside in the Music Hall—about twenty minutesafterwards I overtook him between Denmark Street and Cannon Street—I was walking steadily home behind them—when we got between Betts Street and Denmark Street, I saw the deceased come from behindme and strike the prisoner in the face—there was a lot of men standinground—a struggle commenced between the two, and they went out intothe road—a man who has gone to sea, I don't know his name, ran outof the road and struck the prisoner two or three times in the ear, andthe prisoner ran away—a policeman came up and asked if there wasanybody stabbed—I heard somebody say "Yes," and the policemanimmediately ran after the prisoner—I don't know which policeman itwas; it was too dark to notice him—I was examined before the Magis
<lb/>trate—I did not know the prisoner before—I. did not belong to hiscompany, or the people with him—I did not see the deceased in the Hoop and Grapes, or any of the others; only the prisoner and the twowomen—this happened about 400 or 500 yards from the Bell—I wentto Arbour Square Police Court, to see whether it was the same manthat I saw on the Friday night; I saw one of the young women in thewitness box—she said "There is a young man behind who saw it," and the constable fetched me in—I was asked to go to the Police Court by ayoung man who sings at the Bell; I don't know his name—I have</p>
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<p>known Mary Hassan five or six weeks by sight, going up and down the Highway—I know nothing of Louisa Manning; I never saw her till Isaw her at Arbour Square.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the Prisoner.</hi> There was a great crowd where this took place; Idare say there were twenty or thirty men—I did not see any knife, orsee anyone cut—I did not see anyone fall—after the struggle Wilsonwalked on to the pavement—I told the girls to go away home, and Isaw Hassan home as far as the door.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-171" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY HASSAN</persName> </hi>. I am a single woman, and live at 10, Albert Street, Shad well—on Friday night, 24th October, I was at the Hoop and Grapes; there was a rare lot of us there, young men and women—I don't knowtheir names—the prisoner was there; I was drinking all the evening withhim, from 10 till 11—Alexander was there, he was not with me, he was atthe Bell—I did not see the deceased at the Hoop and Grapes—after leavingthere we went to the Bell, me and the prisoner, And Manning, and two orthree more—I did not see Alexander there, he went away; I saw him after
<lb/>wards, he saw me home to the street door from Denmark Street—when wecame out of the Bell it was just about 12, the house was just closing; Itook the prisoner's arm from the Bell to Denmark Street, I left him thereat the corner and went straight away home—Alexander said to me "Youhad better go home," and he went with me to the turning—I saw himnext morning at the Police Court, and said "There is the gentleman thatsaw me to the corner"</p>
<hi rend="italic">By the Prisoner.</hi> I did not see you with any knife, or see any cutting.</p>
<hi rend="italic">By</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>. I had known the prisoner before, where I was inservice, two or three months ago—he went to sea, and I did not see himagain till two nights before this—I did not see any quarrel or struggle—Iwas the worse for drink, and did not take notice of what happened.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-172" type="given" value="LOUISA"/>LOUISA MANNING</persName> </hi>. I live in the same house with Hassan—on 24th October I went with her to the Hoop and Grapes about 10 o'clock; therewas a dark fellow there, and four other chaps—I saw the prisoner there, drinking—we left there about 11.30 and went into the Bell, just as it wasclosing—I did not see Alexander after he left the Hoop and Grapes—we allleft the Bell friendly together, and walked down as far as Denmark Street, and I saw one of the white men hit the prisoner first; there was a bit of afight in the road, and the prisoner ran away; that was all I saw—I was the worse for drink.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner, in hit defence, stated that he was attacked by the deceased and his friends, but denied using any knife.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, November</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 24th October I went to Sir William Palliser's premises, 154, Minories, about 7 o'clock p. m., when the menknocked off work—the prisoner Clifton was called into the office as he left, where one or two members of the firm were present—I said to Clifton "Iam a police officer, and in consequence of something that has occurred Iwish to ask you a few questions; first, have you anything about you?"—hesaid "No"—I said "I must search you"—I did so, and found three smallpieces of leather in his trousers pocket—he said "I picked them up offthe warehouse floor, I thought there was no harm in it"—I said "Do youknow a woman named Brown?"—he said "No"—I said "Do you knowanyone living on the Seven Dials?"—he said "Yes, I know Mr. Darling, 17, Little Earl Street"—I said "I want you to tell me all you knowrespecting Mr. Darling"—he said "You will be very much surprised tohear what I have to say; there is a man, an old servant of the firm, whohas been robbing the firm for some time, his name is Larkins; I, with amate of mine, named Pearson, suspected him and watched him; one night, two or three weeks ago, we followed him out, and stopped him and said 'You have something in your pocket you ought not to have, we shall giveyou in charge of the first policeman we see; 'but he begged so hard that wedid not do so, as we ought to have done; a week or two after that we sawhim leave again, and followed him into Holborn, we stopped him and said 'You have got something in your pocket again; 'he said 'No, I have not; 'we then made him show us the shop where he had been in the habit ofselling the leather, and he showed us the shop of Mr. Darling, 17. Little Earl Street; me and Pearson went in and saw Mr. and Mrs. Darling, andtold them they had been receiving stolen leather. Mrs. Darling begged sohard, and Mr. Darling gave us 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each, and we said nothing about it Wewent again another night to Mr. Darling, and Mrs. Darling again beggedvery hard that we should not say anything about it, and Mrs. Darling gaveus a sovereign each, making 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and we left a paper with Mr. Darling, undertaking not to trouble him again"—While he was saying that, Larkinssaid "I did not take the leather to Mr. Darling's myself, a woman alwaystook it"—Pearson was then called in, and I said to him "I ama policeofficer;" and, as he is rather deaf, I said "Have you heard what I havebeen saying to Clifton?"—he said "No"—I said "Do you know a womannamed Brown?"—he said "No"—I said "Or any woman passing by thename of Brown?"—he said "No"—I said "Do you know Mr. Darling, of Seven Dials?"—he said "Yes"—I said "Tell me what you know"—he said "A man named Larkins has been stealing leather some time, and me and Clifton suspected him and watched him; on two or three occasions I sawhim put something into his coat pocket—and one night, three or four weeksago, me and Clifton followed him out, and told him he had something in hispocket he ought not to have, he said 'Yes, 'and begged very hard of us notto give him in custody, and we did not; another time we followed him into Holborn, stopped him, and told him he had something in his pocket, hesaid he had not; we compelled him to show us where he sold the leather; he took us to Mr. Darling's," 17, Little Earl Street, Larkins remained out
<lb/>side; we saw Mr. and Mrs. Darling, who gave us 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each, and we saidnothing about it; when we came outside Larkins was gone, so that I do</p>
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<p>not know whether lie had anything in his pocket that night or not; weafterwards saw Mr. and Mrs. Darling, and they gave us a sovereign each"—Larkins was then called in, and I said to Pearson "Will you tell me in Larkins's presence what you have already said?"—he then said "Me and amate of mine have suspected you and watched you, and followed you onenight to Leadenhall Street, we told you you had leather in your pockets, and you took us into a public-house and treated us, and begged us to saynothing about it"—Larkins said "and I gave you a sovereign"—Pearsonsaid "Yes, and you begged hard on account of your wife and family, andwe said nothing about it"—Larkins said "I gave you 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. altogether, and that is more than I have received for the leather I have sold, not to sayanything about it, and you promised not to do so"—Pearson said "Yes"—Clifton was then called in—they were then all three together—Clifton said "Me and Pearson followed you out one night, and told you you had leather, and you took us into a public-house and treated us, and begged so bard foryour wife and family that we did not do so"—Larkins said "I gave you 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. not to say anything about it"—they looked at each other and said "4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. is right," and Clifton said "Yes"—Larkins said to one of the firm, "I hope you will forgive me; I have stolen this leather, I promised thesemen not to say anything about it, and I have not taken anything since"—one of the gentlemen said "What is it you have taken?"—he said "Round-ings and patents"—I took them all three to the station, but did not charge Pearson, because it was agreed that he should be a witness, but he wasordered into custody at the Mansion House—there was no solicitor for the Prosecution then, but Messrs. Wontner were instructed next morning at the Mansion House—I searched Pearson's house, and found some pieces ofleather—Clifton picked out one piece, and said "One piece I bought, andthe rest I picked up off the warehouse"—I went to Mr. Darling's and re
<lb/>ceived from him some leather and elastic webbing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Sir William Palliser, Captain Palliser, and others werepresent at the interview—no one said that it would be better for Clifton ifhe told all about it—nothing was said to encourage him or Pearson.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-180" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DARLING</persName> </hi>. I am a leather seller of 17, Little Earl Street, Seven Dials—as far back as 5th June, some leather was brought to me by awoman named Brown, and she brought more from time to time—I handedover to Child what portion of the leather I had left—I received receiptsfrom her for the money I paid her—on 14th October, Pearson and Cliftoncame into my shop, Pearson said "We are two confidential men in a largefirm and wish to speak with you. Will you come outside with me?"—Isaid that I could not, because my wife was ill, and I asked them into theparlour—Pearson said "There has been a robbery of 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and we areinstructed to search it out; we are not to give the name of the firm, asthe firm wish us not to—(
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contidered that this evidence was not admissible against the other two prisoners</hi>)—I had transactions with thewoman Brown on 28th June and 19th August—these receipts (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) relate to the three transactions mentioned when I bought leather of Brown—when Pearson and Clifton came, I handed down the bill file, andthey identified the woman's writing as being an accomplice—they asked meto show them some of the
<hi rend="italic">roundings</hi>, and I did so—Pearson cut a bit off'one of the pieces and said that it was the cutting of a man who had beenin the firm twelve years—I said I was very much surprised to hear thatthey were Stolen, and I should be pleased to show them anything I had got</p>
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<p>—I showed them some elastic, and Pearson cut a piece off it—they wentaway, and Clifton came back in ten minutes, and said "We have beentalking the matter over outside, and we will try and arrange it so as not toimplicate you in it"—they left, and came again next evening, when Pearsonsaid "We have some good news to tell you, we have made up our minds notto go further into the matter. We have seen a party who has given us 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and we have seen the man who stole the goods, and have witnessed such ascene in the afternoon. The woman has threatened to take away her life"—they also said that they did not want to get the man turned out of hissituation, he had been there so long—they said that in searching for therobbery of 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. they happened to get a clue, and would not take noticeof this small affair—they said to my wife "You won't mind him going outnow," and as she was present I went out with them to the Clock House pub
<lb/>lic-house and we had some refreshment—Pearson said "We have been putto a good deal of expense travelling about over this affair," and I gave them 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each, thinking that that would defray their expenses—Pearson said "Can't you make it 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.?"—I gave them another 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and they wished megood night and left—on 21st October, about 8 p. m., they came again, and Pearson said "I find we cannot settle this affair unless you give us 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each, as you are in a better position than the other party who has given us 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—my wife asked them if they could not wait till to morrow, till we hadthe advice of our solicitor about giving the money—Clifton said "No, wemust have it settled in five minutes, and we have a man outside ready totake you"—my wife said "What can you take him for, he has given a goodprice for the things?"—I had to go into the shop then—Pearson said "Wecan take you for receiving stolen goods".—I said "If I give you this moneywill you give me an acknowledgment?"—he said "Yes "I said "Tell methe firm you come from"—they agreed to do so, and Clifton wrote this: "Ihereby undertake not to trouble Mr. Darling any more about these proceed
<lb/>ings"—that is signed by them both—I gave them a sovereign, and theysaid that they came from Sir William Palliser's, and gave me the address—my wife told them she should see a solicitor and inquire into it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had known Brown about nine months when she cameto me on June 28th—I do not know what she is; she came very respectablydressed—she said that her husband got up first-class goods for shops, andthat this was stuff he could not use because it was not good enough—shegave no address—it was on 21st October that the name of Palliser was given—I did not go there, but I went to the place to ascertain that there wassuch a place—I thought it best not to go in, because Clifton and Pearsonwould know me—I communicated with Mr. Poncione, my solicitor, a dayor two afterwards, and he went to the firm.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you any suspicion that the goods were stolen?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Notwhen I bought them—I am quite innocent of receiving them knowing themto be stolen, but I gave this money because they said that they had beento expense; but as they had been to no expense on my account, I ought tohave said "Do your worst."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Pearson's Defence.</hi> I did not know anything about the robbery till thelatter part of it, and then I gave all the information I could, and Mr. Darling asked me to come and see him a second time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-35-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-35-18731124 t18731124-35-punishment-26"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment each</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD PASKELL</hi> (33)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., the moneys of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-183" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BLOOMFIELD</persName> </hi>. I am one of the association called the Orange and Fruit Porters' Gang, which consists of fifty fellowship porters—they earnmoney by loading and unloading fruit vessels in the Port of London—theprisoner has been employed as clerk and manager since 1867—he received 210
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year, out of which he had to pay two boys—he received all themoneys from the brokers' ships, an account of his receipts and disburse
<lb/>ments—if he wanted money he applied to me—I advanced him 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in October, 1872, and he gave me this receipt for it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—Mr. Free haslooked into his books since he left—on 31st July we gave him notice toleave, and he left on 6th September—on the night he left he handed overto me 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I asked him if that was the correct balance—he said "Yes"—after Mr. Free had gone into the accounts a statement was made out of 127
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not see the prisoner after that till he was in custody, but Ireceived this letter from him on 8th September—(
<hi rend="italic">This was dated September</hi> 8,
<hi rend="italic">and stated</hi>: "Dear Jack, I am sorry to inform you that there is adeficiency in my accounts, which I shall expect you to keep to yourself. Iwas surprised when I balanced to-day to find it so, but there it is and itcannot be altered at present. Since the gang so kindly informed me myservices would be no longer required I have been gambling very heavy, andhave got rid of about 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Of course you are aware, as well as Mr. Free, that we have during the last three years received from Mr. Grant alarge sum we were not entitled to, that amount you are aware has gone tothe Gang's credit, I have not received one penny. I simply mention this tokeep you silent. If I succeed I will send you the amount I amdeficient. I have pawned my watch to pay my fare to Paris, &c. Signed E. Paskell")—I also received this letter, dated September 26, from theprisoner—(
<hi rend="italic">This stated</hi>: "I am afraid I shall have to send Messrs. Adams, Keeling, and Grant, the items, and name the amounts you have knowinglyreceived from them which you were not entitled to. You know I havepointed out the discrepancies to you, and you have distinctly said 'Letthem pass, they will not be found out. 'which so far has turned out correct. There is no excuse for you, the amount so obtained has gone direct to yourfund; I have not received one penny benefit, so I think you will have badluck if I bring these matters to light. Would you believe theamounts you have received make a total of 280
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.? it seems a very largeamount, but then you know the errors were so numerous. Theamount I consider I owe you is 106
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. The 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I received from you, which I did not enter, I declare most solemnly was a pure accident, I wasastounded when you produced the receipt. I shall leave London to-night; it is no use your going to expense to try to find me, you will find Ihave got nothing if you do, &c.")—I also received this letter from Newgate Gaol, in the prisoner's writing—(
<hi rend="italic">This requested the witness to take the opinion of the men as to whether the prisoner was to be subjected to any further prose
<lb/>cution</hi>)—Messrs. Grant have not been defrauded, and the prisoner never said Ia word to me about it—no overcharges have been made to Hunt, or Keeling, or Adams; I have been to all the brokers—the prisoner never named to me Ithat he was overcharging them—I took the opinion of some of the Committee I—these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are the only two books I have had from the prisoner; Ithey are in his writing.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Do you account for this 86
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. as part of the moneyyou allege I have stolen?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Free does; he showed it to you in mypresence—it should have been entered but it is not—I have here thebalance sheet of the Orange Gang, from 2nd August to 6th September—Ican produce other receipts from you, but not now; I think I could produceeight or nine—I did not take proceedings against you when I found the 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was not entered, because you made the excuse that it was an error—ofcourse I suspected you bad the money—the letter you wrote to me accusingme of receiving money of the brokers induced me to take these proceedings—I went and saw Mr. Grant; there were no discrepancies in his account, tomy knowledge—you received a great many sums from me to carry on thebusiness, and this 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was one of them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> This matter of 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was called to his attention before heleft, by Mr. Free, and he said he had not received the money, and asked if I had got the receipt—I produced it, and he said "I never believe I havehad that money"—the moneys of the Association are kept at Mr. Johnson's, in an iron safe, I have one Key and the prisoner had the other—he wentaway on a Saturday, the day his notice expired, and he handed over thekey of the safe—besides the 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. he ought to have handed over 136
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd; taking the 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from that it would be 56
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that balance rightly shows theaccount in these two books with that 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. added.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you any account made out by the prisoner showing thebalance of 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, that appears by the books and by the balancesheet as well, but not in his own writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-184" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM THORPE</persName> </hi>. I am a fellowship porter, a member of the Orange Gang, and one of the Committee of the Association—on 15th October Ireceived this letter by post; it is in the prisoner's writing, to the best of myknowledge—(
<hi rend="italic">This was from the prisoner to the Committee, requesting them to withdraw from the proceedings against him on account of his mother and sisters, who were in great distress, and stating that he should then be in a position, to obtain a situation and pay the Association the amount he owed them</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Are you the oldest member of the gang?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Tea—yourfather may have given a few pounds for the tickets and the books, but itwas the trade who gave the work to the gang—one penny in the shillingfrom the men's wages goes into our fund, and you had the handling of it—that penny in the shilling amounts to 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year, and we pay 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week for clerkship.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-185" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-185" type="given" value="BAXTER"/>BAXTER HUNT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 25th September I received a warrantto take the prisoner, and on 31st October I saw him in the Borough andasked him if his name was Paskell—he said "No, my name is Williams, you are wrong; I know Mr. Paskell very well and I believe he is in a littletrouble; you are an officer I suppose?"—I said "Yes," and asked him if hehad any objection to going over the bridge to see somebody who mightknow him—he said that he had the strongest objection—he also said "Meand my wife have been to see Mrs. Paskell in Guy's Hospital"—anotherofficer spoke to him, and I told him he would have to go over the bridge—he consented to go, and afterwards he said "It is all right, I am the manyou want, that is my name, Paskell"—I said that I had a warrant for hisapprehension and that if he liked I would read it to him there—he said "No, I suppose it will be read afterwards"—it was read to him at thestation, and the amount was 126
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2—he said "I was not aware itwas so much, I thought it was about 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and that I took; I have had a</p>
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<p>great deal of sickness, my wife has been in bed for nine months, and when I was using it I thought I was using my own money; I should have paidthem again if they had given me time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Who told you I had a wife?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Bloomfield, and yousaid so yourself—I saw a lady twice.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The cash receipt does not commence with any balance, itonly sets out receipts amounting to 435
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and the disbursementsare 378
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., leaving a balance of 56
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and then he has paid 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 0
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—when he paid that 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. he ought to have paid 56
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> Mr. Free found in my last year's wages-book dis
<lb/>crepancies amounting to 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. This 86
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. which is brought forward in thisbook is supposed to be part of what I have stolen, but if last year's wages-book is produced, it will show that the 86
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was brought forward by me, Ihaving paid it out of my own pocket to make the accounts up. Therewas not enough money, and I used money belonging to myself to make upthe payments, and that is brought forward here. When I wrote, I ad
<lb/>mitted that I owed 156
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I had received money in 1871 and 1872 amountingto 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and as I had paid the money out of my own pocket I should havepocketed the 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but instead of doing so I wrote it into the account, andkept the 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out, so I was cheating myself of 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. When the deficiencyoccurred, I tried to account for it, but could not till Mr. Wontner producedthe receipts. If last year's balance sheet and wages book are produced, Ithink they will prove that what I say is correct With regard to Bloom-field saying that the men are not of opinion that I should be let off, it isentirely false. One man mentioned something favourable to me, and hewas suspended for a month. He is now present.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnessess for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18731124-name-186" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18731124-name-186" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18731124-name-186" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES"/>WILLIAM JAMES YOUNG</persName> </hi>. I have been connected with the gang nineyears, and as far as I am aware the prisoner conducted the business in avery straightforward manner—I never had occasion to suspect anything—I have been suspended for four weeks by the committee because I suggestedthat the thing should be expressed as a debt instead of involving a prose-cution—my suspension is a loss of from 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> As a member of the gang, I saw the wages-book—Iwas a member of the committee twelve months ago—the wages-book wasin the prisoner's possession—I have not seen it since he left.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Was one of the committee stationed beside me on Satur
<lb/>day night when I paid wages?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have sat beside you myself and kepta check in a book which was kept for the purpose—a book was also kept bythe publicans of how much you paid them—those books ought to be here—I have known you to use your own money to pay our accounts with—you mentioned to me, when I was on the committee, that you had to putyour hand in your pocket.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was not there somebody for him to apply to?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, butnot momently.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Examined by the Prisoner</hi>). I audited the last year'saccounts—the discrepancies in the wages-book were put to rights—therewas 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. one way and 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. another, through errors—the error amountedto 156
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I pointed out that there was an entry of 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in your cash receipts—I put that 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. into the balance sheet—these accounts were balanced tothe previous month, 6th September—the previous account to that was 2nd August—the balance used to be on 2nd August every year, but now it is on</p>
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<p>6th September—you were not discharged till 6th September, but you hadyour notice—I advised you to make the accounts up to that time, becausethe brokers were slack then—the balance then due to you, including yoursalary up to 6th September, 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., was 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
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