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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>WATERLOW, MAYOR.</p>
<p>SEVENTH SESSION, HELD MAY 5TH, 1873.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-1" type="given" value="JAMES DROVER"/>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</persName> </p>
<p>AND</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-2" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>VOL. LXXVIII.</p>
<p>SESSIONS VII. TO XII.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED, BY</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-3" type="given" value="EDWARD T. E."/>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY</persName>, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>STEVENS & SONS, 119, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, May 5th, 1873, and following days,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON. SIR</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-5" type="given" value="WILLIAM ROBERT"/>WILLIAM ROBERT GROVE</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-6" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE DENMAN</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FERNRLEY ALLEN</hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-8" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT BESLEY</persName> </hi>, Esq.,
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<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES WHETHAM</hi>, Esq.,
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-10" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MCARTHUR</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P., and
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-11" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City (acting as Deputy-Recorder); and
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-12" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-13" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WHITE</persName> </hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-16" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER CROSLEY</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WATERLOW, MAYOR. SEVENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th, and Tuesday, May</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th, and</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Deputy Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GOODMAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CHARLES MATTHEWS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Michael;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MEAD</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for Lewis; and</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>,
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<hi rend="italic">After</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">had opened the case</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">applied to the Court to call on the Prosecution to elect upon which set of counts they would pro
<lb/>ceed; there were</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">counts, disclosing different offences, and in respect of each of the prisoners very different questions would arise, which were calculated to embarrass the Defence; in cases of felony there was no doubt the Court had authority to do this, and although this was a misdemeanor the principle was the same.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">was of opinion that the counts charging conspiracy to forge and utter</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">via., the</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th and</hi> 8
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<hi rend="italic">might be open to objection on the ground suggested, but that</hi> (
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>,
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-23" type="given" value="CHARLES DUPIN"/>CHARLES DUPIN DRAYSON</persName> </hi>. I carry on business with my father and brothers as diamond merchants and manufacturing jewellers, at 15 and 16, Brewer Street, Golden Square, under the style of Drayson & Son—I have known Montague Goldsmith for some considerable time; prior to certain trans
<lb/>actions with me I had known him as being in the employ of Mr. Harry Emanuel, and other large jewellers—I first became acquainted with Michael Goldsmith about two years ago—I know nothing of Lewis—I have seen Rebecca twice at 66, Conduit Street-Montague Goldsmith carried on</p>
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<p>business there, and Michael assisted him—the first transaction I had with Montague was about two and a half years ago, in October, 1870—down to April, 1872, the transactions between us had not been of a very extensive character—I let him have goods on approbation to show to customers—I would let him have sundry articles to show to customers, and if he sold one or more of them they were charged to him—sometimes they were sold to a specific customer, and sometimes merely on a statement that he wanted goods to show to a, customer—I fixed the price—they were all marked—when a sale was effected I was to be informed of it, and we invoiced it to him; if not sold it was returned—there was no limit within which goods given to him on approbation were to be returned—no limit was absolutely fixed—it was not to pass into his stock except in particular cases—he had no authority from me to sell at a lower price than that which I fixed—in April last year the transactions between us began to increase—up to that time he had paid me by bills and cash—in April, 1872, Montague Gold
<lb/>smith gave me a reason for increasing the transactions between us—he told me that he was related to Sir Benjamin Phillips, who had promised to give him some introductions to rich people—I have my books here—during the year 1872 I continued letting him have goods on approbation—some portion of those goods were charged to him, as I have described, and other portions were left in his hands—about the 18th or 19th of December last year I received some communication from Messrs. Charman—in consequence of that information I instituted certain inquiries in reference to the property I had handed to Montague—at that time I had let him have articles of jewellery on approbation to the amount of 6, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—those were goods that had been invoiced—he had also a number of goods, still in the appro
<lb/>bation book, to the amount of about 10,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this is the ledger (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—there is an approbation book as well—when goods were first handed to him they were entered in the approbation book—the approbation book will show when the goods went out of our premises to him—if a sale was effected, and he informed me of it, it would go into the journal first, and then to the ledger—I have the journal here—Montague Goldsmith had already started in business when we first supplied him—the first transaction with him was on the 12th April, when he had eight scarf pins on approbation—I did not make the entry, my clerk did, my cousin, Alfred Drayson—I have no recollection of the transaction—the first transaction that I recollect was on 15th October, 1872; that was a butterfly brooch in brilliants, that he had for 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the entry is not my writing, my cousin made that, and nearly all the entries in this book; it was his duty to make entries both in the approbation book and the ledger, under my instructions—I find in the ledger that that butter
<lb/>fly brooch is charged to Montague on 23rd of that month—at the time he got that he said that he hoped to sell it to Sir Walter Riddell—he made a statement to me, upon which I debited him with the amount—I have not been paid for it—the diamonds of which it was composed have been returned to me by Mr. Whitfield—the next item charged to him is a pearl necklace, worth 3, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., on 31st October—he said he thought it would suit a cus
<lb/>tomer he had—he brought it back to me two or three times, and eventually he told me he had sold it to Alderman Truscott—he made a statement which induced me to debit him with it—at first it was brought back to me every evening—I said it was such a valuable article, and it was safer in our house, as we had persons always on the premises—before it was represented to me as being sold, he kept it for three or four days, telling me that he could</p>
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<p>only see his customer very early in the morning or late in the evening, when our premises were closed—he then mentioned the customer's name—he had it in his possession for about three days before it was charged to him—it was charged to him on 31st October—it has been returned to me since—I got it from Mr. Hennell, a diamond merchant, of Southampton Street, Bloomsbury—that was after these proceedings—on 6th November Mon
<lb/>tague Goldsmith came and selected jewellery to the amount of about 9,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—some he selected, and some of it was out on approbation elsewhere, and we sent it to him—he said that he was going to show them to Sir Anthony Rothschild, who was about having a wedding in his family—he said the house was at Gunnersbury—of the jewellery that he then selected he after
<lb/>wards returned to me something like 4,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth—among the articles he returned were a brilliant bracelet, an emerald bracelet, some emerald ear
<lb/>rings, a brilliant locket, a brilliant head ornament, a ruby and brilliant ear
<lb/>ring, an emerald ring, and a sapphire and brilliant ring—they were all obtained within a day or two of the same time; some were delivered to him at the time—the price of the bracelet was 1, 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the emerald bracelet, 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the set of emerald ear-rings, 750
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; a pearl locket, 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; a bril
<lb/>liant head ornament, 840
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the ruby and brilliant ring, 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; that was not had at the same time; I sent it in consequence of the state
<lb/>ment; I did not send it myself, my cousin did, and also the emerald and brilliant ring, and the sapphire and brilliant ring—in reference to the bracelet for 1, 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., he mentioned the name of Sir Sills Gibbons, and he showed me two bills of exchange; he handed one to me; these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are them; they are for 975
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each—(
<hi rend="italic">these were drawn on</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th November</hi>, 1872,
<hi rend="italic">by Montague Goldsmith, at six and four months, and purported to be accepted by Sir Sills John Gibbons</hi>)—I don't recollect Michael coming to me about any of these articles—they were charged to Montague Goldsmith—among others, the brilliant bracelet—that is the only one out of the lot that was charged—down to the beginning of December Michael often used to come for goods—I could not particularise which—he would come and ask for goods—I understood they were for his brother—I under
<lb/>stood that he was assisting his brother in business—he said he was assistant to his brother—about the beginning of December, Montague Goldsmith came to me, and wanted some drawings made for bridesmaids' lockets for a wedding—he said it was a wedding in the Pakenham family; that a Colonel Pakenham and a Captain Pakenham were going to be married, two brothers—he said there would be two or three expensive presents made, and would I let him have a few things to show—in consequence of what he said to me drawings were made—he called, and the drawings were handed to him—he said he would take them and show them to the parties, and he did take them—he brought them back—he said they were approved of, and gave me the order to make the lockets—there was a mistake in one drawing, in one of the initial letters—that order was put in hand—I think eleven lockets were made—this memorandum is in Montague's handwriting, I believe—"Colonel Thomas Pakenham—bride, Jane Louisa Fitzolarence—Captain C. Douglas Pakenham—bride, Mary Helen Scott—bridesmaids' lockets, Henrietta Fitzclarence, Julia Emma and Annie Fitzclarence, Louisa Scott, Elizabeth Scott, Jane Julia and Maria Scott"—that is the paper that relates to the lockets, this other paper he brought with him—I should say it was in the same writing—he said he thought what he had written on this paper was what would be given as presents to each bride—he asked me if I had such</p>
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<p>things in stock—this is the second paper: "Head ornament, bracelets, earrings, brooch, about 1200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., head ornament 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the bracelets 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the earrings 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the brooch, pearls, and diamonds"—that was for one bride—then there is "Head ornament with bracelet, earrings, and brooch, all in diamonds, the head ornament 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the brooch 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the earrings from 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—the brooch, head ornament and pearls were to be given by Captain Charles Pakenham, and the diamonds by Colonel Thomas Pakenham—I told him that I had not a suite of diamonds in stock; I had a pearl suite, they were black pearls and diamonds—I showed that suite to him, it consisted of a bracelet, necklace, and a pair of earrings—the price of the bracelet was 330
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the necklace 550
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the earrings 375
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he said he thought it was very likely to suit his customer, and they were afterwards sent to him, to the best of my belief—shortly after that he came and told me that the pearl suite was chosen, and he wanted a drawing for a head ornament to match it—I had a drawing made and handed it to him, this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is it—he took it away with him—he said the lady was herself a very good draughtswoman, and might wish to make a design herself or to suggest some alteration in it—he afterwards brought the design back, and said that the lady approved of it—that was about the 17th or 18th December—that head ornament was to be made ensuite with the black pearls—the bracelet, necklace, and ear
<lb/>rings were brought back for the pattern to be followed, and a new case was to be made to contain them all—I was not at home when they were fetched away—I had just begun to make the head ornament when I received a communication from Mr. Charman—in consequence of what he told me I gave certain instructions to my cousin, Alfred Drayson, in consequence of which he afterwards produced to me some articles of jewellery to the value of about 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I never saw Montague Goldsmith after the day when he brought that design back to me—I do not remember anything about a collet diamond necklace—I know we had one in stock of the value of 680
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—a collet necklace consists of a single row of diamonds, single stones set together—I have seen Michael Goldsmith at our premises dozens of times—I did not personally see him in reference to the black pearl suite—he used to come and ask for goods when they were wanted for customers, I presume for his brother's customers, and he has had those goods—I don't recollect an instance in which I have handed him goods—since the com
<lb/>munication from Mr. Charman I have seen a large quantity of our property.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. We have no shop—ours is a wholesale business—we let the retailers have the goods principally on approbation—sometimes they buy, and sometimes they have them on approbation—we have supplied persons like Emanuel's and Streeter's with goods on approba
<lb/>tion—ours is principally that kind of trade, and making things to order—we have at this moment jewellery to the amount of 40,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out on appro
<lb/>bation—sometimes it is paid for by bills; I should say the greater portion—E. and E. Emanuels is a house with which we do a good deal of business—when I send them goods I send an approbation note of them, and if they find customers they are invoiced to them, they are not invoiced to them at first—that is our way of dealing, and they pay us sometimes in bills and sometimes in cash—my father and brother are my partners—I began the dealings with Montague—my father is scarcely ever in the business—I treated Montague as the principal—the goods were entered to him in the ledger account—it was simply put in the approbation book "Goldsmith"—</p>
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<p>but I understood it to be Montague, the acceptances were his—as far as I gave any credit at all I gave credit to Montague, and to Montague alone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cros-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. These things, to whoever they are entered, are all entered in the same way—the terms upon which they are entered are the same to everybody—they are all on the tame system—if Emanuel's, or any one of those gentlemen had 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of jewellery on approbation, and called and said, "Invoice that brooch to me," I should do it as a matter of course—the transactions were opened with Montague Goldsmith on the same system—he was shopman at Emanuel's—he began dealing with me about October, 1870—he was then living at 15, Colville Terrace, and getting a place ready for business in Conduit Street—I did one or two very trifling matters of business with him then—he came and had a few things to show:—if he sold them, well; if not, he returned them—I could not say how long that continued—I think it was in January, 1871, that he first had a place of business of his own—I have only known him in one place of business—no show was made in the window—there was a case in the shop containing jewellery, not in the window—there was simply a wire-blind to the window with his name on it, "Montague Goldsmith, jeweller and diamond merchant, "I think, but I am not quite sure—I knew that he had no stock of his own—he had no authority to sell below my price; if he put them above he would have the profit—when I have used the words price and value, I mean my price for the goods—I have received altogether from Montague about 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—besides that I have received bills accepted by himself, some of which have been met and some not—I have received back a pearl necklace from Mr. Hennell—I had received 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in part payment of that from Montague—the first entry of the butterfly brooch would be in the approba
<lb/>tion book—the journal and ledger show the same thing entered in the same way—on one or two occasions he has had a thing in a great hurry, and a memorandum has simply been made upon a slate that we keep
<lb/>perhaps he has taken it, and said "I will bring it back in an hour, if it is not sold"—with that exception, the others are all like the entries I am going to show you—the first is on 15th October, at page 283, in the approbation book, a butterfly brooch, that is entered in the journal on 23rd October, at page 391, and on the same day in the ledger, folio 499; you will only be able to find it by a number; it has the folio of the journal in red ink written across it, 391—it is not entered in the name of Goldsmith—the things struck out were returned—there are thirty-one articles—I can tell you by referring to the stock-book what they are—the aggregate value of the whole entry would be about 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and of the articles returned about 1, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—they are struck out when they are returned—we could not tell on what day they are returned—I don't know
<hi rend="italic">over</hi> what period the returns of those articles extended, there is nothing by which I could tell you—he had them in his possession from 15th October until the 23rd—the two columns in the journal are in case of there being several articles in one invoice—they are in separate items in the first column, and in one item in the second column; wherever it consisted of one article it would be duplicated, and where it consisted of several articles it would be in one; the second column is the aggregate of the whole order—this is the ledger account—all the transactions were upon the same system, goods-supplied on approbation, returned, and struck out by the red mark—I will put pieces of paper in the different places where the supplies on approbation are marked.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>, I should not accept a sale from him below my own price—there is only one instance in which I made a slight reduction of price, and that was by special arrangement—if a gentleman of position like Mr. Emanuel sent to me to charge him with goods sent on approbation, I should do it at once, I should do it with anybody if I believed they had sold them, I should not charge them to a person like Goldsmith unless I believed he had actually sold them to a customer—the cash was not paid at the time of charging, it was always a quarterly account; there would be no bills or cash paid while the goods were on approbation only—the goods on approbation would not be included in the quarterly account—the 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I received from Goldsmith includes all, from the commencement of my dealings with him from October, 1870—the greater part of that 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. consisted of bills which were met—the 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. includes everything that was paid; it does not include the bills that were dishonoured—I received back the necklace from Mr. Hennell some time in January—during this inquiry we threatened him with an action to recover it, and he was also summoned as a witness to the Police Court—he then brought it to us, and gave it up, and said he would not have any more trouble about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-24" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-24" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-24" type="surname" value="DRAYSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-24" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED DRAYSON</persName> </hi>. I am a cousin of the last witness, and assist him in carry
<lb/>ing on the business in Brewer Street—I know Montague, Michael, and Re
<lb/>becca Goldsmith—there were transactions between the firm in Conduit Street and our firm—sometimes Montague gave us orders and sometimes Michael; it was about equal—when I went to their place I more generally saw Michael—they used to enquire for some specific article on approbation—when I have gone to Conduit Street and seen Michael, I have had conversations with him about the things; I used to ask 'about different articles had from us on approbation, and if they were out at a customer's he would say so—I used to call there two or three times a week—Michael was more generally there—I have seen Rebecca there four or five times, perhaps six—when goods were obtained, I frequently took them myself from Brewer Street to Conduit Street, and delivered them either to Michael or Montague, whichever was at home—there was no clerk—in October, by the last witness's direction, I took the 3, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. pearl necklace which has been spoken of and three lockets, value 225
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and some other articles to Conduit Street, and saw either Montague or Michael—I went for the pearl necklace again in the evening—sometimes he used to bring it, and sometimes I fetched it; it was taken back and brought again in the morning for about a week—I remember Montague coming and seeing my cousin, but I was not with him—I took it again one morning after that and saw Montague, I believe, but I do not remember sufficiently—the same arrangement was made that he was to return it in the evening, and I left it, as explained by my cousin—I do not think I saw it after that—it was first left on 22nd October, and finally left about October 28th or 29th—I had no conversation with Michael as to whether it was sold or not; it was all with Montague—on 4th November I took the 9,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of goods selected for the wedding to Conduit Street, and saw Rebecca and her sister; I said that I had brought her brother some things to show, she said that he was out—I said that I would wait, and I would enter them to save time—while I was opening the cases they looked at the different things and admired them; they said that it was a treat to see the ornaments, as their brother never allowed them to look at anything—the conversation was general—I do not know which said that, they both took part in it—the brothers both came in at that time, while I</p>
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<p>was entering the goods on a piece of paper which I had brought—they had not to sign that paper—nothing was said to Rebecca, or in her presence, as to what they were brought for—I believe they asked about the price of one of the articles, casually, in the course of conversation—I left the goods when Montague and Michael came in, and among them were the articles stolen—they were left on 4th November, and about two or three days afterwards I went there for two or three articles which I wanted, and I asked him to make a return of the things he had, the brilliant head ornament and the bracelet specifically—he said that they were out at a customer's—I frequently spoke to Michael about them—I enquired for them four or five times, and he always told me that they were out at a customer's—the last enquiry I made was within a day or two of the explosion of the affair, about the middle of December—I also enquired of Michael about other goods which had been left, and he used always to say if he could not give them to me that they were out at some customer's—on 14th November a diamond cross was charged, I believe it was on Michael's statement, but I cannot remember sufficiently; my cousin has that diamond cross in Court—it was sent on 22nd October, and charged on 14th November—either I or my cousin have seen all these other articles—on 7th November a bracelet, value 420
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., was had on approbation, and it is charged on the 16th on Montague's statement—I have since seen it in the hands of Richardson, in pawn—I called many times to make enquiries about it, and generally saw Montague; I don't think I saw Michael about that—on 7th December, Montague came to Brewer Street about a diamond star and some earrings—I told him that they had been standing some time, and I desired to clear them—he said "Those two are sold"—I wrote a memorandum at that time in consequence of what he said, namely, that Michael knew to whom they were sold—I addressed the memorandum to the firm, it is, "Dear Sirs; Please give bearer the diamond earrings, "giving the numbers, "as we have a good chance. Alfred Drayson and Sons, "on the back of which Montague wrote, "Dear Mike: I think you will find the earrings are sold to Lady Truscott or somebody else, if so, please say. "That was sent by a messenger, and this answer was returned, which is I believe in Michael's writing, but they write so much alike I cannot say—it says, "Dear Sir: The earrings (giving the numbers) sold, yours truly, Montague Goldsmith"—Montague was not at my place when I went back—I frequently received letters from them both, which, whether they came from one or the other, were signed "Mon
<lb/>tague Goldsmith"—In consequence of that statement, I charged those ear
<lb/>rings—I have since seen them produced by a pawnbroker during this enquiry—on 7th November a pair of brilliant three-drop earrings were had on approbation—I don't remember taking them; I went to enquire after them, and I believe I saw Montague—after the goods had been sent for the wedding, Montague called in Brewer Street—I did not deliver them, I sent them by a porter to Conduit Street—I saw the black pearls when they were brought back again to have a head ornament made to match—Michael came down about them one morning about 9th December, and said that the customer was coming to his place to see them with the lady to whom they were to be given, and he wanted them to show them—I said "We cannot very well spare them, the case is going to be re-lined, "but I let him have them, and never saw them again; that was about a week before the catastrophe—I have since seen those black pearls in pawn—about 27th November, Michael came and I let him have about a dozen rings, which</p>
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<p>were all returned but one, which stood open on approbation till the affair exploded, and I hare since seen it in the hands of a pawnbroker—Montague also asked me for a collet necklace, value 680
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and told me he wanted it for a customer in the country—when I gave it to him, he said that that was about the thing, and it was sent in a parcel to Conduit Street—I have since seen it in the hands of the pawnbroker—that is not charged, it is still on approbation—when this affair became known I went and received about 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Worth of property from Conduit Street—I saw Michael, and said that we were going to take stock, and I should like him to clear up as near as he could all the goods he had had on approbation—I saw one book at that time, but did not see the inside of it to see whether it was a ledger—on 9th October, 1871, a ruby, emerald, and brilliant ring, No.155, was had on approbation; it has never been charged—I conversed with Michael about it about July, 1872, who told me it was with a customer in the City—I have since seen it in the pawnbroker's possession—I did not knew that any of these things were sent to the pawnbroker's, but afterwards I went to Liverpool, and saw Mr. Whitfield, who handed me two duplicates and some diamonds, some of which formed part of the butterfly brooch—he also gave me the centre stone of the diamond, ruby, and emerald ring, which has been spoken of—I can say that this stone formed part of that ring—I have seen the other two stones elsewhere—they constituted the ring—I took the tickets that were handed to me by Whitfield, and have been to the pawn
<lb/>broker's and seen our goods—one ticket relates to a brilliant French brace
<lb/>let, value 270
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which was sent on approbation about May, 1872—a brilliant half-hoop ring, sent on approbation on 14th September, 1872, value 63
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., is a mistake, it should be a ring of 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that is not the one re
<lb/>turned by Whitfield—the ring pawned at Rowley's, in Ledbury Road, was a brilliant half-hoop ring, value 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which was sent on April 20th, 1871, and was charged later on the same day, on the representation that it was sold.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I do not know exactly whether it was paid for or not, because there were renewals—I will not say that it was not—I am not a partner of Mr. Drayson's, and I have no power to give credit—if Mr. Charles Drayson says that he gave credit to Montague Goldsmith, he would know better than me—Michael did not say that he had been sent by his brother for the pearl ornaments, he said that he had come down for them—that was about 9th December, 1872, and I mean to say that I can recollect very nearly the identical words he used—when I saw Rebecca in Conduit Street she had her bonnet on.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>. I was present when Lewis Goldsmith was examined before the Magistrate on the part of the defence—I had seen him before, sitting in the shop in Conduit Street—the prosecution was directed against him at the instance of my cousin, of the firm, and Mr. Charman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-25" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-25" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-25" type="surname" value="STIRRUP"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-25" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES STIRRUP</persName> </hi>. I am porter to Messrs. Drayson—on 7th December I took this piece of paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from Mr. Alfred Drayson to 66, Con
<lb/>duit Street, and saw Michael Goldsmith write upon it, but not on the back of it—I never saw anybody write on this other piece of paper.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. This paper is the one Alfred Dray
<lb/>son gave me to go for the things, and Michael gave me a pair of ear
<lb/>rings and a set of studs, and told me that the others were sold, and I stood there while he wrote this paper: (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated December</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1872.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">To Messrs, Drayson:</hi> "Dear Sirs,—Earrings 47, 300-2, 500 sold. Yours truly,</p>
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<p>Montague Goldsmith")—he wrote that in the office—he had the books before him at the time, but he never looked at them—he copied the num
<lb/>bers from this.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I should not know the books again—they were closed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-26" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-26" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-26" type="surname" value="BART"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-26" type="given" value="WALTER RIDDELL,"/>SIR WALTER RIDDELL, BART</persName> </hi>. I know nothing whatever of the Gold
<lb/>smiths—it is not true that I purchased a butterfly brooch—I never saw or heard anything of it—the signature to this bill is not mine, nor written by my authority—I have no knowledge whatever of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-27" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-27" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-27" type="surname" value="BELL"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-27" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>SIR GEORGE BELL</persName> </hi>, Bart This bill of acceptance is not in my hand
<lb/>writing; it is a forgery—it was not written by my authority—I never heard of the Goldsmiths at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-28" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-28" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-28" type="surname" value="CLARKE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-28" type="given" value="LOCKHART"/>DR. LOCKHART CLARKE</persName> </hi>. These two acceptances are not in my hand
<lb/>writing, nor written by my authority—I have never had any dealings with the Goldsmiths, and know nothing of them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-29" type="surname" value="SOOVELL"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-29" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SOOVELL</persName> </hi>. These are not my acceptances nor signatures, nor written by my authority—I never had any dealings with the Goldsmiths, nor ordered any goods from them—I know nothing of them in any way.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-30" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-30" type="surname" value="HARRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-30" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HARRIS</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Messrs. Charman & Sons, of 4, Beak Street, wholesale jewellery manufacturers, and dealers in precious stones—I first made the acquaintance of Montague Goldsmith on the 2nd of May, 1872—he was carrying on business at 66, Conduit Street at that time—on the 2nd May, by Mr. Charman's directions, I went to 66, Conduit Street—I found Michael and Montague there—I had taken with me four bracelets and a brooch, in consequence of Instructions from Mr. Charman—I told them I had brought the goods by the direction of Mr. Charman—Montague said "We will give you an answer in two or three days"—I am sure he said "We"—nothing further was said at that time—a day or so after that Michael came to my master's premises with a bracelet and a brooch—that was one of the bracelets and the brooch that I had left—the value of the bracelet was 460
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—certain instructions were given by Michael in reference to it, for alterations to be made in it—these instructions were carried into effect, and I afterwards took the article to the premises in Conduit Street, and handed it to Montague—it was charged to Montague about the 6th May, on the representation that it was sold—it would not be charged to him unless it had been signed—on 13th May I went again to 66, Conduit Street, and saw Montague Goldsmith—he required a set of half-hoop rings—he said he wanted them to show a customer—I afterwards communicated that matter to my master, and I took some rings to Montague the same day—there were about a dozen, and amongst them was a diamond half
<lb/>hoop ring, worth 85
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that was retained, and the remainder were returned—he was charged with that 852. ring a few days afterwards—it was charged on the 4th of June to Montague Goldsmith—he said it was sold to a cus
<lb/>tomer—on 8th July I went to Conduit Street again—Montague said he wanted some head ornaments, bracelets, and brooches for a customer—I supplied him with some—amongst those articles there was a bracelet which Michael brought back to Mr. Charman's to be arranged as a bracelet, the brooch to take away and serve at pleasure; it was a bracelet band with a brooch centre—those instructions were carried into effect—Michael said he wanted it in an hour to deliver to his customer the following morning—it was done in accordance with his request—I took it back and left it at Conduit</p>
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<p>Street, with either Montague or Michael, I could not say which—I have seen Michael on the occasions when I went to Conduit Street more frequently than Montague—the bracelet which was altered was charged to Montague on or about the 13th—the head ornament, which had been sent with the bracelet, was charged to Montague on 27th July, one of the lot which had been sent on the 8th—that was worth 270
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on the 27th Montague required some drawings for earrings, and I had an interview with him at his own premises—I could not say for certain whether Michael was present—Montague said he wanted the drawing of the earrings to show a customer—some drawings were made—at that time he said he wanted a brilliant necklace to show a customer, and that necklace, worth 550
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., was taken by me to Conduit Street—that necklace was afterwards charged to him on the 7th August—on the same day that it was charged he had some earrings, some brooches, and some bracelets—he said he wanted them to show a customer—all those articles were returned, except a bracelet, a pair of ear
<lb/>rings, and a brooch—the earrings were charged to him on 15th August, at 225
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the bracelet on the 23rd, at 525
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and the brooch remained on approbation until the 13th November, when it was charged to him at 140
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 3rd August I delivered a large quantity of jewellery at Conduit Street, at the request of Montague; amongst those articles was a pair of earrings worth 185
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—they were charged to Montague on 5th October—on 14th October I delivered to him a necklace worth 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; it was charged to him on the 17th—I remember a transaction on the 21st October—I went to Conduit Street, and saw Montague—he mentioned certain things he wanted—they were articles of considerable value, and I told him they were rather more than I could let him have, he had better call and see Mr. Charman—he came round and saw Mr. Charman—he made a selection of a large quan
<lb/>tity of valuable things, amongst them was a bracelet worth 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—he was charged with that on 25th October—there was also a pair of earrings in the shape of bees, worth 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and a bracelet worth 220
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; they were also charged to him on the 25th October, and at that time he had some further articles, amongst them was a bracelet worth 525
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he was charged with that on the 13th November—there was another bracelet worth 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and a pair of earrings worth 210
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he was also charged with those on 13th November—on 26th November he had a bracelet worth 510
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and a head ornament worth 465
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he was charged with the bracelet on 28th Novem
<lb/>ber, and with the head ornament on 2nd December—on 30th November he had a necklace of the value of 750
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which was charged to him three or four days afterwards—on 11th December he was charged with a bracelet worth 375
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which he had on 23rd October; and on 16th December he was charged with a brooch worth 735
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., had on 21st October—on 5th December I went to Conduit Street—I saw both Montague and Michael there—Montague asked me in Michael's presence for some diamond orna
<lb/>ments for a double wedding, some pearls, and some diamonds—I told him I could not let him have them, he must come round and see Mr. Charman—I said the amount was too large—he said he would come round, and he told me not to take notice to anyone else in the trade, lest they should find out his customer—later in the day he came round to Mr. Charman's—I was present at the interview which took place—he told Mr. Charman the same that he told me, that he wanted the goods for a double wedding—that is all I recollect—he was allowed to select certain goods, and he took away with him a pearl bracelet worth 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., a diamond bracelet worth 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., a</p>
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<p>pearl and diamond locket, 210
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and catseye diamond locket, 1, 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; a pearl and diamond brooch, 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; a diamond brooch, 280
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; diamond ear
<lb/>rings, 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; a second set of diamond earrings, 575
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and a diamond aigrette, worth 1, 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which is a circle of diamonds with a feather attached to it—a few days afterwards I called at 66, Conduit Street with reference to those articles—I saw Michael—I told him I had called in reference to the goods; I wanted some of them back—I might have asked for some particular ornament, I could not now say which, but it was in reference to those goods that I called—he said, "They are out with a customer, and I can't disturb them"—I called again on several occasions, I should say half a dozen times—I made the same request—sometimes I saw Montague afterwards, not always Michael—the answer I got was that they were still out, and he would give me an answer in two or three days—I saw Michael on the last occasion I called—ultimately I got back the pearl and diamond locket—I should think a week afterwards—I am not certain whether Montague or Michael gave it to me—I got back four of the other articles besides that, ultimately leaving the diamond aigrette, the pearl half-hoop bracelet, the earrings, and the diamond cluster brooch—the pearl bracelet was 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the earrings 575
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have seen Rebecca there when I have called in reference to these articles—she had been in the room when I have asked Michael and Montague about them—on 22nd November a diamond star brooch of the value of 145
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was entrusted to Montague on approbation—Michael seemed to be active in the business at Conduit Street as well as Montague—when I have made enquiries of him he has always answered them—I have not charge of the books—I don't know anything of them, I merely take the things out, therefore I cannot speak as to the amount charged—the cash paid, I think, was about 1, 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in round figures—the first article that was ordered was paid for by an acceptance, which was met; and there were two cash payments afterwards of 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each—Michael made those payments.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I believe the bills were acceptances of Montague—when Michael paid me he handed me the money in notes—I am assistant at Messrs. Charman's—my duties are to call on the trade for orders—I have been sixteen years in Messrs. Charman's employ—I try to serve my master as actively as I can—I have nothing to do with the ledger at all—it is in Court—I have got the approbation book—the circles round some of the figures mean when the goods were sold—the goods are represented by certain numbers, and when they are sold the numbers are encircled, and when they are not sold the numbers remain, and the goods are returned—Messrs. Charman do a very large business with the chief west-end jewellers—it is all approbation business—I can't tell how much they have out at the present time, at times to a very large amount—when an article was kept Montague said, "Charge it, and send an invoice"—I never enquired who his customers were—it was not my business to do so—we received cash 1, 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—one was on a bill for 460
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—for the balance, 6, 950
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., we only hold Montague Goldsmith's acceptances—on the occasion that I saw Michael, he said the goods were at a customer's, and he could not disturb them, he said his brother Montague was out—he has also told me that on other occasions, and it was in consequence of that that I called again and saw Montague, when he was at home.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. I could not say how often I have been to the place at Conduit Street—I have called for three or four months,</p>
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<p>perhaps five months, every other day—my visits have extended over a twelvemonth—that was the sort of way in which I used to go there—Rebecca has been in the room occasionally when conversations took place—I was examined before the Magistrate—I never said "Rebecca was never present at the discussions between Montague and me"—to the best of my belief I never said that—it is really so long ago I hardly know what took place—I said I could not give any date when she was present.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When I saw Michael he said he could not give me an answer, because his brother was out—he could not give me an answer until he had seen his brother—he did not say who the customer was, a gentleman or a lady—he said his brother had gone to see the customer—in consequence of that I went again to ascertain whether the customer had kept any of the goods—I more frequently saw Michael than Montague—I could not say how many times Michael has told me that goods were with customers—he did not always say so when I called—he often said so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-31" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-31" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-31" type="surname" value="BART"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-31" type="given" value="SIB SILLS JOHN GIBBONS,"/>SIB SILLS JOHN GIBBONS, BART</persName> </hi>. I know nothing of the Goldsmith family, nor any of these Goldsmith's—until I was summoned to Marlborough Street, I did not know such persons were in existence—it is not true that I bought a brilliant bracelet worth 1, 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I never made a purchase of any kind of them—these two bills for 975
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each are not accepted by me nor by my authority.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-32" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-32" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-32" type="surname" value="CHARMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-32" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CHARMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a diamond merchant and jeweller, of 4, Beak Street—I have known Montague Goldsmith for some time as assistant in various jewellers' shops at the West-end, Emanuel's, and one or two others; they were customers of mine, and I knew him in that way—about April, 1872, my son met Michael Goldsmith, and about that time we commenced business with them—the first transaction was through my son; it was a diamond bracelet, 460
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—an acceptance was given for that, which was paid—from that time until 17th December I continually sent them goods through the medium of Mr. Harris, and sometimes myself—I don't recollect the exact amount of goods sent on approbation, and afterwards charged for—it was quite 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and additional goods sent on approbation, making a total of 9, 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with the 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—during that time I received cash to the amount of 1, 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., including the bill that was taken up—1,965
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I think, was the exact amount, or probably it may have been less 5 per cent—Mr. Harris, my assistant, supplied the goods—on 5th December Montague Gold
<lb/>smith said that he wanted a diamond suite and a pearl suite, as there was a double wedding in a family that he was doing business with, and he wanted them to show—he selected the diamonds and pearls that Mr. Harris has mentioned and took them away, to the amount of 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd—we afterwards got a portion back, the residue being 3, 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 18th December I received a communication from Mr. Flower, the assistant to Messrs. Ortner & Houle, jewellers, in St. James's Street—I think my jewellery is pretty well known in the trade, and it was in consequence of that that the communication was made to me—it was with respect to a pearl bracelet, which was one of the articles for the double wedding—in consequence of what Mr. Flower told me I went the following morning to Goldsmith's place, in Conduit Street, and there saw Montague, together with Michael—I said I wished to have some of the goods that he had or they bad on approbation—Montague said he was very sorry he could not let me have them, indeed, I think he commenced the conversation by saying he was sorry he could not let me have the goods that had been applied for, they were out on approbation with his lady customer</p>
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<p>—he said he had an appointment at 11.30 to sea the lady for her final decision—he said the appointment was in Portman Square; referring to the Directory, he said it was at 40, Portman Square, and the name was Lady Pakenham—he said she was the customer of whom he had spoken—I told him I should like to go with him to Lady Pakenham's to get the reply, and I did go—he did not seem to know anything about the place—the street was up, and he told the cabman to drive on the other side of the square to No.40—we drove all round the square; ultimately, on finding No.40, it was shut up, the steps were uncleaned, and the place looked entirely as if the family was out of town—he made inquiry for Lady Pakenham, for Colonel Pakenham, and Captain Pakenham, the secretary, and a great many more; but we could not find anybody—I then told him what I thought, that it was a gigantic swindle, and I pushed him into the cab—we went to my office and I sent for my solicitor, and subsequently we went to Conduit Street—I there saw Michael, and in his presence I desired to see the books, and they showed me these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>); the smaller book is the ledger; it was not then in the state it is now—it called forth a remark from me that I did not think they had ever done a single shilling's worth of genuine business in their lives—and that was the then appearance of the books—this book has been un
<lb/>doubtedly added to since—nothing has been scratched out or taken out that I can see, but it has been added to; something has been written in—at that time there was no appearance of business—I did not then remark any ledger account between me and them; I am not sure that I have seen one since, I think I have—there was an approbation book shown to me, a book with the items in it that were supposed to be with customers, and so on—I think this is it, I don't know—after the books were shown to me I said it was a very unsatisfactory matter as far as the books were concerned—he said he could give an explanation, but he failed to satisfy me, and I asked for security pending the explanation that was to be given—he said he had not anything except the bills he had received in payment for the goods he had sold—I desired to see them, and he then asked Michael to get them out of the safe, and he brought them out in an envelope, and gave me bills representing in amount 9, 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Michael gave them to Montague, and Montague gave them to me—they are the bills that have been pro
<lb/>duced and pronounced to be forgeries; there was not a single genuine bill among them—there was a bill book, it is here—the bills were called out and checked by the bill book by Michael, here are the ticks; Montague then endorsed them and handed them to me—that was the last I saw of Montague; I have endeavoured to find him, and instructed the officers to do so; I took out a warrant against him directly I discovered that the bills were forgeries—that was on 19th December, I think, the day after I discovered the pearl bracelet—on the 23rd I saw Michael and his father, and Michael then handed me some duplicates and pawnbroker's contract notes affecting my jewellery; there were a good many, some applying to my goods, and some to Drayton's, and some to persons that I don't know—he said his sister had given them to him; he did not specify the sister; I gave the parcel to Drayson's, and they selected what they chose from it—the father said "If you will go to Colville Terrace and see my daughter, she is the only person who can give an explanation regarding this matter"—on the following morning I met the elder Goldsmith at the Great Western Terminus, and ultimately went to Colville Terrace—I there saw Rebecca—Michael was present, and her father and mother—the father introduced</p>
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<p>me; he said "My dear, here is Mr. Charman"—I forget now how the conversation took place—I asked her what had become of the jewellery, but not immediately; there was something took place before that; I don't know quite what led up to it; it was that she was willing to give me any explanation—if I would ask her questions, she would answer any questions—I then asked her what had become of the goods—she said she was so confused she could not remember, but if I would specify any particular article, she would endeavour to answer me—I specified the aigrette first—that was the diamond aigrette of 1, 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which formed part of the double wedding suite—she said "I sold that to a Mr. Danby, of Wigmore Street, for 220
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I don't remember how the goods were placed; I wrote this paper at the time—I then asked about a pair of earrings, 575
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that formed part of the double wedding suite—she did not remember the earrings at the moment, and I made a drawing; she said those were not the earrings, but she made another sketch, showing what they were, and said "Those earrings I sold to Maurice Moses, of Oxford Street, for 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—she then said "I sold to Mrs. White, of Great Portland Street, a pearl bracelet and a diamond star, for 86
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; a bracelet, also to Danby, of Wigmore Street, for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—I could not remember anything else at the moment to ask her about, but I said "Well, what did you do with the pearl necklace of Drayson's?"—I happened to know that they had had a large pearl necklace of theirs—she said "I sold it to Danby, of Wigmore Street, also, for 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that was the expensive one valued at 3, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I then asked her who accepted the bilk—she said "I did"—she said that the first transaction she had had of the kind was with a brooch belonging to her brother Montague that she had taken out to sell, having told him that she knew an old gentleman who had a daughter who was going to be married, and she thought she could sell it to him; that she took it to Mr. Mills, of Oxford Street, and took a receipt for it, leaving it with him to dispose of; the price of this brooch it appears was 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but not being able to get more than 75
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. offered for it, she would not sell it; she took it away from Mr. Mills, and took it elsewhere, and eventually sold it to Attenborough, of Charlotte Street, for 65
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said it was very odd that she should sell it for 65
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. after having been offered 75
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—she said it was because she had walked about until she was footsore—nothing more passed, except the scene at the end, the dropping down on their knees and asking me for forgiveness, and all that sort of thing—Rebecca did that, and the mother, and I think the father—it was quite a painful scene—after that I came away—I afterwards received some memorandums from the house, 66, Conduit Street; I collected them myself; I went through the house by leave of the landlord.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. In one of the books produced, a cash book, I find an entry, "M G 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.," entered month by month, and subsequently 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. entered month by month.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. We send goods to retail traders on approbation; if they sell an ornament they say, "I have sold this;" other
<lb/>wise, of course, it is a bargain, whether I choose to sell to them indi
<lb/>vidually or not—there are many that I would not sell to, yet I would charge to if they had sold—I sell through them to the customers; I do not know who their customers are—I often do know, I can't help knowing, because they blurt it out; but if they are about to tell me, I generally stop them</p>
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<p>or say "I won't be troubled with your secrets, because I don't want the responsibility of it"—I should think I have seventy or eighty persons on my books who carry on business with me in that way, in London and in all the provinces, and in Ireland and Scotland, in all parts of the kingdom, there may be more; I don't think there would be more than seventy or eighty, including all; I should think half the number are in London, in the City, and the West-end, none in the suburbs—they are mostly half-yearly payments, but a great many of the transactions are special, and they are drawn for at the time at six months—I have cash or genuine acceptances of Montague Goldsmith's for everything, but about 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that is not including those things that he bad on approbation, that have been found to be pawned since; it does not include those; it is for all the things that have been charged, excepting 735
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the first bill was met, 460
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I can't give you the gross sum; there was 1000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to be paid, but there were two items selected, amounting to 965
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the two, discount was taken for those, to the best of my belief, and I received the money; that was all I had—that makes 1, 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. actually paid—I have not got Montague's bills here, and I really don't remember the amount of those that have not been met, I think it is something about 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., some of them are matured and not paid—I saw Rebecca for the first time when I went to Colville Terrace—the paper I have been referring to I wrote at the time—it was not written there; those figures I wrote at the time—this was not a memorandum made at the time, only what I have already given as to the whereabouts of the goods—that consists of five items, referring to the names of the persons where they were pledged or sold—no part of the conversation was written down then—the other part was not written afterwards, it was merely what I jotted down before—I had heard, before that interview, from the family that it was alleged that Rebecca had had the goods from Montague under the pretence of selling them, and pretended that she had done so, and handed the proceeds to Montague—I wrote this, it may be, a day or two, or two or three days before the interview, it could not have been very long, because this explosion only took place on the 19th, and it was on the 23rd that I saw Rebecca—I have not the slightest doubt that it was written before that interview—the effect of the conversation was not only to impli
<lb/>cate her, but to take the whole blame upon herself, and to exculpate her brother Montague entirely—I think the statement involved the fact that she had handed all the proceeds of everything she had obtained to her brother Montague; I think I so understood it—I don't know whether he is the oldest brother, or whether he is older than her—I can't say how long the interview with her lasted; a long time was taken up by the sobbing, and hysterics, and pulse feeling, and all that sort of thing; I should think a half or three-quarters of an hour must have been taken up, even in that way—I think I must have been there over an hour—the result of the whole was, in effect, that she stated Montague was entirely innocent, and she alone was guilty.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>. Lewis Goldsmith, was present at the interview with Rebecca—I heard him examined before the Magistrate—I think he was called on behalf of his sister, and gave evidence in relation to this interview—I presume it was after that evidence that he was charged in relation to this conspiracy, but I do not knew anything of that part of it—I don't know anything of him; I don't know him in business at all—I don't know that this proceeding was taken against him for the purpose of</p>
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<p>closing his mouth—I concur in this prosecution; not in prosecuting him, I don't know anything of him—I have given no instructions—I don't know of my own knowledge who is prosecuting him; I presume it is Drayson—I think I heard of his being charged the day after—I did not give instructions to charge him with cheating me of my goods—I am not surprised to hear it; I know there have been transactions with Drayson's goods—I don't know Whitfield—I heard him examined—I was in hopes I should have found some of my goods through him, but I did not—I have not made any inquiry with reference to Lewis's employment at Mr. Constable's—I don't know anything about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I only know personally what I have now sworn to; for the rest of the case I am obliged to rely upon other witnesses—the legal part of the matter I have left in the hands of my legal advisers—I should sell goods out and out to such gentlemen as Emanuel's and Hancock's, but to Goldsmith, and persons in his position, I would not sell, unless I believed a customer was actually found—I would not have given him credit at all—I fully believed the goods were going into the hands of
<hi rend="italic">bond fide</hi> customers, so that he would be supplied by them with money to pay me—the cash and bills I have received do not include the goods out on approbation; I was never paid for any goods that were sent on approbation—I took no lulls until the goods were charged—bills to the amount of 3, 750
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. are still outstanding with respect to goods.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. We have not heard under what representations the business with the Goldsmiths was commenced.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> My son will be able to answer that question—I personally knew Montague as assistant at Emanuel's, but I was not asked by him to give him credit—I did not know Michael as assistant; I did not know Michael except in Conduit Street—the repre
<lb/>sentations were made by Michael to my son.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you happen to know that until Montague went into business on his own account, Michael was a stranger to the trade?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not know him at all; I did not know there was such a person.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-33" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-33" type="surname" value="CHARMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-33" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY CHARMAN</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with my father—in April, 1872, I met Michael Goldsmith on the top of an omnibus—I had known him previously; I had been introduced to him by a mutual friend—I don't know what he was before that—at the time I did know him he was with his brother in Conduit Street—he opened the conversation concerning business; he asked me if I would let him show some diamond bracelets to a lady customer—I said I would—he said he wished to show them on the following day, and when I came to town on the following morning I sent our man with them—there were several—I was told when I returned to town, in the course of a fortnight, that he had kept one and paid for it—I remember the goods being sent on 5th December for the double wedding—about 17th December I went to get some of those goods back; it was the day before my father had a communication—I saw Michael—I asked him if he had done with that ornament, the aigrette, as we had a telegram from Manchester, and we wished to send it away—he said it was out at a customer's—I said it was very important that we should have it that evening to send away—he said his brother had been in the course of the day to see the customer, and he could not go again that evening, but he would on the following morning—I don't remember that he mentioned the place his brother had been to; he merely said "the customer, "to the best of my belief; my impression is that he did not name any place—when I</p>
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<p>agreed to let him have goods to show to a customer, I knew that his brother had been with Emanuel's and Hancock's, and first-rate firms—while he was assistant to them he has come to us on their business—to a certain extent that inspired me with confidence.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. It was not after we had been doing business with Montague that Michael spoke to me about the bracelets; that was the first transaction—it is correct that he first spoke to me about doing business with the firm of Montague Goldsmith in April, 1872—I had known the brother previously—the bracelet that was kept was paid for by a bill of exchange—it was paid, and handed back to Montague—I believe it was made payable in Conduit Street—as for the aigrette, Michael said that his brother had been for it to a customer, that he must wait till his brother returned, when he would get him to go again—I don't know what Michael was before Montague went into business on his own account.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-34" type="surname" value="PAKENHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-34" type="given" value="COLONEL THOMAS HENRY"/>COLONEL THOMAS HENRY PAKENHAM</persName> </hi>. My mother, Lady Pakenham, has a house at 40, Portman Square—I do not live there; I am stationed at Aldershott—when I am in town I live in Portman Square—I have a brother, also a colonel, who has just left the Guards, but he is not in London now—I have heard the evidence about this double wedding—there is not the slightest truth in it; it is all fictitious—I never heard of any jewellery being brought to the house or required for any such purpose—I should undoubtedly have known of it—I was to be one of the bridegrooms—I am not unmarried.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-35" type="surname" value="MOSES"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-35" type="given" value="MAURICE"/>MAURICE MOSES</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, of 189, Oxford Street—on 4th July last year I first became acquainted with Rebecca Goldsmith; she came in to my shop to sell a diamond bracelet—I questioned her as to who she was—she said she was a Miss Goldsmith—I asked her address—she said she was living at Ealing—I asked if she was connected with any of the Goldsmith family; she replied in the affirmative, but it was a poor branch of the family, or something tantamount to that, and her residence was at Highfield House, Ealing; she wished to sell the bracelet—I asked her the object of parting with it—she told me she was living with her mother, that they had some law expenses which were rather heavy—she left the bracelet, and I said I would see what offer I could make her—I then took the bracelet to a neighbouring jeweller's, Mr. Waylett, who was better versed in these things than myself, a better calculator, and he offered 110
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it; it was then sealed up with his seal, that is an understanding in the trade, that if the seal is not broken the person who makes the offer will not revoke—I took the bracelet back sealed up, and I gave her a cheque for 105
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I afterwards delivered the parcel to Mr. Waylett, and he gave me a cheque for 110
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I have never seen the bracelet since—about the 9th or 10th she came again, and brought a pair of diamond earrings—I asked her the reason of parting with them—she said she was about to get married, and her mother wished to raise some money, or the earrings were to be parted with to purchase her trousseau—she mentioned the name of Lord something Osborne as the person to whom she was to be married—I asked her if it was one of the Leeds family, and she said "Yes"—knowing she was a Jewess, I said "But he is not of the same persuasion as you"—she said, as nearly as I can recollect, that her mother would waive that, as the opportunity was too good to be lost—I gave her a cheque for 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the earrings—when she brought them she asked 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for them—the market fluctuated a good deal in large stones at that time—and I took them to Messrs. Hill and Williams, and Mr. Hill said he would not give more than 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for them,</p>
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<p>and he is an old practitioner—in coming out of the shop I met Mr. Phillips, and he came to my place and sealed them up for 190
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—and they were after
<lb/>wards delivered to him—I have not seen them since—(
<hi rend="italic">they were produced by Mr. Fisk</hi>)—I really could not swear to them, they are something very much like them, I scarcely looked at them; if I had been going to calculate the amount of stuff in them, I should have taken more particular notice—I believe these to be the same as near as I can possibly tell.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. I have been in business 23 years—I am a judge of jewellery to a certain extent, but my business is not confined to jewellery alone, it is a portion of my business, but not heavy diamond goods; the centre-stones are the principal, and what the market price is at present you can hardly get at, for since the discovery of the Cape diamonds they fluctuate very much, particularly at that time; I was not able to give my own opinion, therefore I went to one of the largest houses in London, Messrs. Catchpool, Hill, and Williams, of Oxford Street-Mr. Hill valued the earrings at 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., so perhaps you may place them down as worth 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; or 210
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. if you had to replace them in the market—diamonds fluctuate some
<lb/>times 10, 15, or 20 per cent.; about that—I cannot retain the value of the bracelet in my memory—Mr. Waylett, I think, gave a very fair price, and I got a very small profit, 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., with which I was satisfied; the earrings were decidedly not of the value of 575
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that is undoubtedly an extravagant price—the value of these things depends a great deal on the fashion and the water; they fetch more in the height of the season than in the dull time of the year.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-36" type="surname" value="WAYLETT"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-36" type="given" value="RICHARD STBPHBN"/>RICHARD STBPHBN WAYLETT</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, of 234, Oxford Street—I remember Mr. Moses bringing me the bracelet he has spoken to, and my sealing it up as he has described—I paid 110
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it; I placed it in the window; a lady came in and offered money for it, and I put it by, and a day or two afterwards she came with her husband and purchased it, and paid for it over the counter, 125
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not take a note of her name and address—she said her name was Whitfield, but gave no address—she looked at it first on 5th July, and she came with her husband on the 9th and offered 125
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it, which I took; I put it by, and she came for it on the 10th and paid.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. I consider I sold it for the value of it—I should not have taken that money if I had thought it had been worth more—the 125
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. includes my profit and the wholesale profitr-420
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would be an extravagant price for it; quite out of the way—I am considered a very good judge in the trade—I have been thirty-six years in the trade, in Oxford Street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-37" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-37" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-37" type="surname" value="PHILLIPS"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-37" type="given" value="BARNBT"/>BARNBT PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, and live at 18, Bloomsbury Square—on 10th December I purchased a pair of earrings of Mr. Moses—these are them (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I gave 190
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for them—I sold them to Mr. Walton on 18th December, at ten months' credit, for 220
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. I have been nearly fifty years in the trade—I am a pretty fair judge of jewellery—I think I have shown the value of the earrings by the price I have sold them for—ten months is rather a longish credit—I consider I sold them for their fair value, in my judgment.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-38" type="surname" value="FISK"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-38" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FISK</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Walton, jeweller, of Ludgate Hill—I have produced a pair of earrrings which I purchased from Mr. Phillips on 18th December.</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050021"/>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-39" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-39" type="surname" value="DANBY"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-39" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE DANBY</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, carrying on business at 8, Wigmore Street—I first saw Rebecca Goldsmith in October last year—the first transaction was in respect of a pair of diamond earrings—she introduced herself as a cousin of Sir Francis Goldsmith, and knowing that family to be a wealthy family, of course I bought them of her—she said that her mother had a great quantity of valuable jewels left her by her father, who was dead, and that she anticipated she should be obliged to dispose of them—I gave her about 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the earrings, as far as my memory serves me—I afterwards sold them to Mr. Attenborough, of Duke Street, Manchester Square, for about 62
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—about a week or ten days after the transaction with the earrings, she came again, and brought a necklace—there was some conversation then about her being married; it was addressed more to my wife than myself—I said, under the circumstances, I could not think of buying anything more unless she gave me a reference as to her respectability—I asked if she could give me a banker, or any person that knew her, and she said she would write me a note, enclosing a reference; and true enough, on the same evening, a card came with a reference, in consequence of which I went to 199, Portobello Road, and saw Dr. Pickett—on the following day she called with the necklace—she left it for me to show to some persons, better judges than myself, and I purchased it that same day for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I think it had five stones, and a little ornament, joined together—the stones were diamonds, as near as I can recollect; but I really don't recollect very well—I afterwards sold it to Mr. Hill, of the firm of Catchpool & Williams, Oxford Street—on 9th December I purchased a diamond aigrette of her for 225
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I think—she introduced it as pars of the property belonging to her mother—I sold the brooch portion of that aigrette to Robert Attenborough, of Duke Street, and the remaining portion of it to Richard Attenborough, of Oxford Street, for 195
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. respectively—I also purchased from her a diamond collet bracelet for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I sold that to Mr. Hennell, of 4, Southampton Street, for 280
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I can't recollect her making any statement about that bracelet—I can't say whether it was at that time or not that the name of Truscott was mentioned—she did mention that name to me; she said she was very likely to be married to Sir Francis Truscott—it was merely a casual conversation that was taking place between my wife and her at the time; it had nothing to do with the transaction—I think at the time this bracelet was brought she said it was to help to make up her trousseau; that she was selling jewels to raise money for the trousseau—on 6th November I purchased a pearl necklace of her for 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I sold it to Mr. Hennell for 750
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it was not in my possession many hours—she left it in the morning and came in the evening—I went and got the price Mr. Hennell would give for it, submitted the price to her; if she did not wish to take it, it would have been returned—there is no record of these trans-actions in any of my books—I have no books for this sort of trade; it was merely being employed to sell things for other persons—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the top part of the aigrette that I bought, the plume.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. I have been twenty-two years in business where I am—the market fluctuates from time to time—I submitted the goods to Mr. Richard Attenborough and Mr. Hill; they are really good judges of these things, I am not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-40" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-40" type="surname" value="OLIVER"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-40" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM OLIVER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Robert Attenborough, of Duke Street, Manchester Square—on 10th December I bought a diamond brooch of Mr. Danby for 195
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I sold it at Messrs. Johnson & Dymond's auction-rooms</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050022"/>
<p>for 420
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—those are the City Auction Rooms—they sold it at one of their sales—I have never seen any of the stones of it it since—I should not know them if they were loose.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-41" type="surname" value="DYMOND"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-41" type="given" value="JOHN NEATE"/>JOHN NEATE DYMOND</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Johnson & Dymond, auctioneers—we keep the City Auction Rooms—on 16th December we received a diamond brooch from the last witness, and sold it for 420
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on, I think, the 16th December—before the 16th we showed it to Mr. Charles Drayson, and we bought it for him—he left me the commission—he gave me a limit to buy it for him at a certain amount.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-42" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-42" type="surname" value="DRAYSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-42" type="given" value="CHARLBS DUPIN"/>CHARLBS DUPIN DRAYSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). On 16th and 17th December I was staying with Mr. Dymond—he showed me a diamond brooch, and I gave him a reserve price for it, 420
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I broke it up subsequently, and showed Mr. Charman the stones—he identified them—these are them (
<hi rend="italic">pro-duced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-43" type="surname" value="BENGER"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-43" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES"/>WILLIAM JAMES BENGER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Richard Attenborough, of Oxford Street—I produce a diamond plume, which I bought of Mr. Danby on 12th December for 97
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>. I have been with Mr. Attenborough 25 years—97
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was a fair value.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-44" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-44" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-44" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-44" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, and carry on a jeweller's business at 128, Great Portland Street—on 25th October the prisoner Rebecca came to me and wanted to sell a diamond bracelet; she said that it belonged to her mamma, whose ill health and reduced circumstances made her anxious to sell it—I gave her 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it, and afterwards sold it to Messrs. Gilliam, of Serle Street, for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 29th October she sold a diamond brooch to me for 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., she said that it belonged to her mamma—I sold it to Messrs. Gilliam for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the same day—on 10th December she brought a pearl bracelet for sale; she asked 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for it, and said that she wanted the money in about two hours; I did not ask why—I did not purchase it then, as it was not convenient—she brought it again on the 13th, and a diamond star with it; I gave her 86
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the two, and sold them to Messrs. Field & Beer, of Alfred Place, the same day, who gave me 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the bracelet and 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the star—this is the bracelet and this is the star (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I have not been in the habit of dealing with Messrs. Gilliam recently, but I have known them for many years—I sent my assistant to them with the things to make me an offer for them—I have also dealt with Messrs. Field & Beer—I took them the arti-cles myself, and they gave me receipts for them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The receipts are all together; it is one receipt; I have not got it now; it was delivered up at Marlborough Street, and I believe it is pinned to my deposition—I wrote the receipt, and Rebecca signed it in my presence.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-45" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-45" type="surname" value="GILLIAM"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-45" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GILLIAM</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, of 36, Serle Street, Lincoln's Inn—I know Mrs. White—on 26th October I bought this bracelet (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) of her for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—a month afterwards I sold it to a private customer on credit for 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and since these proceedings I have got it back—on 29th October I bought a diamond brooch of Mrs. White for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and sold it to Messrs. Field for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 22nd November—that is the brooch produced by Mr. Field.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. There is a pretty good margin between the charge for cash and the charge for credit—I have been 14 years in the trade—I have been in Court during the examination of the</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050023"/>
<p>witnesses—I think they charge very extravagantly for jewellery on appro-bation—I have known Mrs. White in business, and have bought of tier as a customer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I judge of the extravagance both by the price we give and the price we get—considerable latitude is allowed—I gave 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and got 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but I have kept things by me a great many years—I would not part with it to a customer who was not likely to pay—I should not mind trusting Mr. Field for 50 times the amount.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-46" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-46" type="surname" value="FIELD"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-46" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FIELD</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller—I sold the pearl bracelet that Mr. Beer bought to Ortner & Houle, of St. James's Street, on 18th December, for 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—on 23rd November I purchased a diamond brooch from Mr. Gilliam for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have the cheque; it was paid—I sold it to Mr. Ball, of the Strand, for 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., about 14th December—I produce it—I bought a star of Mrs. White for 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I broke it up, and sold it to Mr. Child, of Brompton—that was after I received notice from Mr. Charman—I have since got those stones back—at the time I broke it up I knew that Messrs. Charman claimed it as their property, but it was not theirs—I had received a notice from them, and I have had another notice since from somebody else respect-ing the same star—I broke it up after receiving one notice, not both—I afterwards received the other notice—my partner purchased a diamond bracelet from Mrs. White; the stones are here, but there are others with them, and I cannot separate them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. I have known Mrs. White in business many years, and have dealt with her—I have brought everything here which I am able to trace.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-47" type="surname" value="BEER"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-47" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BEER</persName> </hi>. I am the partner of the last witness—on 14th December I purchased a diamond bracelet from Mrs. White for 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and a star for 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Mr. Houle has the bracelet—these are the receipts (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), one was signed in my partner's presence on my premises, and the other at Mrs. White's in the Portland Road.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-48" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-48" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-48" type="surname" value="SHAPLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-48" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES SHAPLAND</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Robert Attenborough, of Char-lotte Street, Fitzroy Square—I produce a pearl bracelet pawned on 15th November by the female prisoner, in the name of Emily Goldsmith, with a diamond ring, for 460
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this is the contract—there were only two articles, not three—they were pledged, not sold—she gave her address, 15, Colville Terrace, West—I cannot recollect that she said anything particular on that occasion, but from time to time she informed me that she was a member of the Goldsmith family; that her father had accumulated a large fortune in the East Indies, but had lost it, and failed for a very large amount, and the money was required to meet calls that were being made on his estate—after she gave me that address I called and saw her there, and she made a further statement about the jewellery, as to who it belonged to, and upon that I took it in pledge for 460
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I am speaking of ahead ornament; they are described as a bracelet and tiara on this paper—I have them here (
<hi rend="italic">pro-duced</hi>)—she came more than once—it is not a pearl bracelet, it is diamonds and emeralds—six months before that she pledged an aigrette, or head ornament, very similar to this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), but I cannot swear to it—it was pledged on the 27th July, 1872, and was subsequently redeemed by Mr. Drayson—that was the first time she pledged goods with us—I cannot say whether she made that statement about her father and the West Indies on more than one occasion, but she did it incidentally—I produce a pendant and some earrings, pledged by Miss Goldsmith on 29th October, for 110
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050024"/>
<p>this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the ticket—this other ticket is for a diamond cross and locket, pawned on 7th November, for 45
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., by Miss Goldsmith—I issued this memorandum—I produce the articles—they were pledged by the female prisoner—the locket is not identified; this is the cross—on 8th November Rebecca pledged with me these two bracelets and three studs, for 320
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), and on 23rd November a ring was pledged in the name of Miss E. Goldsmith, for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 10th December she pledged a brilliant collet necklace for 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and on 14th December a pendant and some ear-rings for 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—these are black pearls—nothing else was pledged or sold to me by either of the prisoners—I have handed into Court all I received from them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-49" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-49" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-49" type="surname" value="HOULE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-49" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HOULE</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with Mr. Ortner, as jeweller, at 3, St. James's Street—on 18th December I purchased a pearl bracelet of Messrs. Field and Beer—I did not pay for it, it was invoiced to me in the ordinary way of business at 140
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I sent it to Charman's, knowing it to be one of their bracelets—I produce it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-50" type="surname" value="NICHOLLS"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-50" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL NICHOLLS</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Thomas Richardson, pawnbroker, of 11, George Street, Bryanston Square—I first saw Rebecca Goldsmith on 10th October last, when she brought me a diamond locket and a diamond ring, on which I advanced her 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this is the locket, (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—the ring I hold; I don't produce it because it has not been identified—on 7th November, she came again and brought a pair of earrings and a sapphire bracelet; I advanced her 303
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on them—I produce them—she said that they were her mother's property, who lived at 15, Colville Terrace, Bayswater, and who wanted the money to assist her brother in business—she came again on the 9th November, and left this pearl bracelet (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) and other articles—on 19th November, I advanced her 195
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—she always gave the name of Rebecca Goldsmith—I have produced all that you have asked me for—I have other things which were pledged by Rebecca Gold-smith—these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are the tickets I gave her at the time; the first is on 10th October, a diamond locket and ring, these you have; November 14th, diamond earrings and bracelet, 303
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. those you have; 9th November, a diamond bracelet, a pearl ditto, and a gold hunting watch—this (
<hi rend="italic">pro-duced</hi>) is the diamond bracelet, the gold watch is not identified—I do not produce a diamond ring, pledged November 9th, for 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there is nothing else.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-51" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-51" type="surname" value="MILLS"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-51" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES MILLS</persName> </hi>. I am a pawnbroker, of 244, Edgware Road; I have had dealings with the prisoner Rebecca—I advanced her 52
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 29th October, for a pair of diamond earrings shaped like bees, and a gold watch and chain—they were all pledged together—I produce the earrings, she said that they belonged to her mamma—on 3rd December she pledged with me a brilliant pendant and a ring for 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have produced the pendant, I also produce a diamond star pledged for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., on 28th November—I have produced everything except the watch and chain, and the ring which was with the pendant, which is not claimed, they have seen all, and I have produced all that they have claimed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-52" type="surname" value="HARRISON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-52" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HARRISON</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Grant, pawnbroker, of 20, London Wall—I know Michael Goldsmith, he has pledged goods frequently at my place—the first time was on 13th July, 187.1, and also in August and September—the articles he pledged nave all been redeemed by him—in February, 1872, a diamond ring anda diamond and ruby ring were pledged for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and redeemed by him on 7th August—on 11th March 1872, a brilliant</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050025"/>
<p>ring was pledged for 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; he paid the interest on it once, and then I sent it to a public sale—on 30th December, 1871, a diamond, emerald, and ruby ring was pledged for 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by Michael in his own name—he always pledged in his own name—he said that he was pledging for his brother—interest was paid on the advances on July 17th, August 11th, and October 16th, 1872—I received two letters from him in respect to the rings, and am aware that they are attached to the depositions—I remember those rings after-wards being redeemed by a gentleman named Whitfield—these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are the two letters I received in reference to the interest; the writing corresponds to the signature of Michael Goldsmith.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-53" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-53" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-53" type="given" value="JOHN CORDY"/>JOHN CORDY SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am joint manager of a pawnbroker's business, at 199, Edgware Road—on 30th January, I purchased a ring from Mr. Whit-field, with some other goods; I bought the lot for 260
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have since received that ring back from him, and sold it to Mr. Dicker—I have since received it back from Mr. Dicker—I have not got it—Mr. Whitfield gave me the money, and I gave him all the goods I got from him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-54" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-54" type="surname" value="ROWLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-54" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROWLEY</persName> </hi>. I am one of the firm of John & Henry Rowley, of Ledbury Road, Bayswater—I know Michael and Rebecca Goldsmith—I first knew Michael about eighteen months ago, and Rebecca about six months ago; they both pledged things at our shop—on 16th March, 1872, Michael pledged some turquoise and diamond studs for 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., in the name of Michael Phillips—they were afterwards redeemed by Mr. Whitfield—I prepared this list (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) myself from our books; it is correct—I also produce a French bracelet, pledged with me on 23rd May, by the prisoner Michael, in the name of Michael Phillips, for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—on 17th October, Rebecca pledged a brilliant butterfly brooch far 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I believe—that was redeemed by Mr. Whitfield; the interest was paid in December, but it was taken out in January—a brilliant half-hoop ring, belonging Mr. Drayson, was not put down in the account Mr. Whitfield made out—I recognise the ring (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), it was pledged about twelve months ago, by Michael Goldsmith, in the name of Michael Phillips, and he paid interest on it—besides the articles mentioned, there were a number of others pledged with us; a brilliant ring for 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 21st February, 1871, which was redeemed on 11th March; a brilliant ring, pledged on 18th March, for 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and redeemed on 24th April; three brilliant rings on 9th March for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed August 9th; a half-hoop diamond ring, pledged on 20th April, for 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 9th March, 1872; a brilliant brooch, pawned on 11th July, 1871, for 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and redeemed August 24th, 1871; a brilliant star brooch, pawned 9th August, 1871, for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and redeemed 4th September, 1871; a brilliant cross, twelve stones, pawned 4th September, 1871, for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and redeemed 2nd Novem-ber, 1871; brilliant head ornament pawned 2nd October, 1871, for 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., an redeemed 2nd November, 1871; five brilliant stars, pawned November 2nd, for 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 4th December, 1871; a gold brace-let with locket, pawned 8th December, 1871, for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and redeemed 31st January, 1872; ditto, on the same date, for 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. redeemed 29th February; a single stone diamond ring, pawned 9th December, 1871, for 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 22nd July; a carbuncle and diamond locket, pawned 9th Deoember, 1871, for 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 23rd November, 1872; a brilliant ring, three stones, pawned 11th Deoember, 1871, for 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 29th October, 1872; a brilliant brooch, pawned 23rd January, 1872, for 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 8th March, 1872; a brilliant and emerald bracelet, pawned 31st January, 1872, for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 7th June; a diamond locket,</p>
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<p>pawned 2nd February, 1872, for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 2nd March, 1872; a dia-mond and ruby locket, pawned 2nd March, 1872, for 27
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 23rd November; a brilliant bracelet, pawned 8th March, 1872, for 85
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 6th May; a set of brilliant and onyx studs, pawned on 16th March, for 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 22nd July, 1872; a brilliant star brooch, pawned 8th May, 1872, for 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., redeemed 4th December; and a diamond bracelet, pawned 23rd May, 1872, for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., unreedemed—I have shown that bracelet—in addition to those which were pledged by Michael, a brooch was taken in from Rebecca Goldsmith.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. All the articles pledged by Michael, except one, have been redeemed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-55" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-55" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-55" type="surname" value="THOMPSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-55" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am a pawnbroker, of the Bayswater Road—on 17th October the prisoner Rebecca pledged a ring with me in the name of Mrs. Lovell, for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the locket; she has only come there three times to my knowledge—I have not got the ring with me, I was not subpœnaed to produce it, I have only a subpoena to produce three articles—I produce a diamond bracelet, pledged about 21st November, 1872, for 303
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by Rebecca, in the name of Lovell; a pair of diamond and emerald earrings, pledged for 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. either on November 21st or 22nd, by the same person in the same name, and two pairs of earrings, one pair diamond and coral; and two rings, diamond and emerald, and diamond and ruby, about two days afterwards in the same name by the same person, for 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have handed them all in—I have had no notice of a turquoise and ruby ring—I should state that one article has been redeemed—I do not know whether Mr. Drayson has got any ticket—there were one pair of diamond drop earrings; there are three pairs of earrings altogether.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GEORGEHERBERT</hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Rawlings of Great Portland Street—I produce a brilliant bracelet, pawned on 14th December, by the prisoner Rebecca, in the name of Rebecca Goldsmith, for 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—she said the property belonged to her mother, and it was pledged on behalf of her mother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-56" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-56" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-56" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-56" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SMITH</persName> </hi>. I live at 55, Dudley Grove, Harrow Road, and am assistant to William Smith—I produce an onyx and diamond pin, pledged on 24th May, 1872, in the name of Miss Ann Goldsmith, for 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I took it in—the prisoner Rebecca is the woman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-57" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-57" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-57" type="surname" value="KNT"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-57" type="given" value="FRANCIS WYATT TRUSCOTT,"/>SIR FRANCIS WYATT TRUSCOTT, KNT</persName> </hi>. I know nothing of the Goldsmiths or any one of them—there is no truth in the statement that I was to be married to this young lady—I had nothing to do with jewellery or buying jewellery from them—I have seen the bills, the signature is not mine or by my authority.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-58" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-58" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-58" type="given" value="JOHN CORDY"/>JOHN CORDY SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I produce an emerald pin pledged on 4th April, 1872, it was received by our manager, John Harvey, who is still with us.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-59" type="surname" value="DOBREE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-59" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE DOBREE</persName> </hi>. I am manager to a pawnbroker, in Charlotte Street, Fitzroy Square—I produce a pair of diamond earrings, pawned in the name of Montague Goldsmith, but not by the prisoners—I advanced 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on them—the interest on it was renewed by Montague Goldsmith, and re-renewed by Mr. Whitfield—I have Goldsmith's original signature on 8th May.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-60" type="surname" value="DRAYSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-60" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED DRAYSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). This is the signature of Montague Goldsmith.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-61" type="surname" value="WHITFIELD"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-61" type="given" value="EDMUND CAMDEN"/>EDMUND CAMDEN WHITFIELD</persName> </hi>. I am an insurance agent, of Liverpool—I first knew the Goldsmiths about 1855—the first I knew of this matter</p>
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<p>was Lewis Goldsmith asking me to take some things out of pledge towards the end of last November—I was in London at the time, aid he came to my hotel—he had not written to me, but I am in business communication with the same firm that he was—he gaye me the tickets the following morning, they were pawn tickets or contract tickets; they are the same thing—there were about twenty of them, I should think, some for large, and some for small amounts; 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was the lowest, and 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the highest—the goods have been redeemed—he asked me to advance the money and get them out of pledge—he said that all the goods were paid for; I put the question to him before I would entertain the subject at all, because the large amount struck me—they were all jewellery; Lewis was with Consta-ble & Co., a wine firm in the City, at that time—I asked him where he got them from, he said from his brother; I understood him to say Michael at the time, but afterwards he told me he got them from his brother Montague—I went round to the pawnbroker's with Lewis Goldsmith about six weeks after that day in November—I did nothing on the tickets during those six weeks; I went back to Liverpool the same day, taking the tickets with me—I did not know then that there was an enquiry pending, not till the end of the six weeks, when I came back—that brought it to 15th or 16th January—I did not know by the papers that an enquiry was pending at that time—I received a letter from Mr. Smith, the pawnbroker, of the Edgware Road, who has been called, before I came up to London—I sold the goods to him towards the latter end of January, after I redeemed them—that was before this letter—I paid interest on a portion of them, and redeemed others—I commenced the transaction with Mr. Smith on the day I sold them to him—that was after I had redeemed the whole of those that I sold to him—I went round to the pawnbroker's with Lewis Goldsmith about 15th or 16th January—I did not verify the tickets at all—when I went to the pawnbroker's and paid the interest, Lewis Goldsmith went with me—when I came to London I went to his place—before I went there I did not know from him, or from anybody else, that one of his brothers had gone out of the way—he made no communication whatever to me—I was quite unaware that Rebecca had made a communication to Mr. Charman, and that she was in custody—when I went round I paid the interest—I mentioned it to the pawn-brokers—Lewis Goldsmith gave me a memorandum at the time, which I destroyed; it put forth what the articles were in pledge for, and the origi-nal cost—the names of the persons of whom they had been bought were not mentioned, but it mentioned where they were in pledge—I took out some, and broke some of them up at Liverpool—I broke up a butterfly-brooch, from Rowley's, and a ring; I threw away the setting, and tried to sell it, but got no offer for it—I returned the stones to Mr. Drayson, when I was summoned as a witness—I tried to sell the brooch before breaking it up; it cost, I think, 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., speaking from memory, and it was pledged for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—no one said anything to me about breaking it up—when I broke it up I had heard of this enquiry, it was before I left London—I came up expressly about it from a letter from Mr. Smith, after I had taken them out and sold them to him, and he wrote to ask me when I was coming to London—I broke up nothing but the butterfly brooch and the ring—I took the ring out of pledge at Grant's, in London Wall—I do not remember what name it was pledged in—I sold it to Mr. Smith, with other things, for 260
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and took it back for the same money, and other goods, and then I</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050028"/>
<p>sold it again to a man, who gave me his name, Richard Stewart, and I got it from him again, and after that I broke it up—I was subpœnaed to London as a witness, and I said at the trial that I had sold it, but that I did not know the address of the party I sold it to—when I left the Court a gentleman asked me if I would take the ring back—I said "Yes"—he asked me if I would take it there—I said that I could not, because I had not got the money on me—I returned everything to Mr. Drayson, which has been claimed, the other things I hold—I returned to Mr. Drayson all that I took out of pawn—I sold the stones that I took out of the ring to Mr. Lennie, a jeweller, in Liverpool, who is here to answer to that—I sold a diamond to Mr. Williams, and got it back, and delivered it to Mr. Drayson—that diamond was part of the emerald, ruby, and diamond ring I speak of, and the emerald and ruby were sold to Mr. Lennie—Lewis only went inside Grant's; he went to the other pawnbroker's, but stood outside—he said nothing to me about the business books, but I heard him state something about them in conversation, I forget who it was to—I cannot say from memory where it was, I recollect hearing something about the books being kept by his brother Michael, that was all I heard—he did not say what books, but he was talking about the business at the time—he did not say at that time where the books were—he said that his brother Michael kept the books, but he did not say whether they were posted afterwards or before—I do not know whether Michael was in custody when I heard that conversation—Lewis did not say where the books were, but I thought they were in Lime Street, where Lewis was employed, but he did not say that they were there, or where they were—what I said before is true—I heard Lewis say he had the books after Michael was taken—he said "I have the books"—no one went down to Liverpool with me—Lewis did not go down to Liverpool during the enquiry.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>. When he told me he had the books his brother and sister were in custody—I understood him to say that he retained the books by the directions of Mr. Lewis, their solicitor—he did not say until some one was properly appointed to receive them—I under-stood him to say he had received the goods from his brother Michael, to whom he had made an advance, but afterwards he said that he had made the advance to his brother Montague, who told him that the goods had been paid for—I knew he was in the wine trade; he had nothing to do with the jewellery business, to my knowledge—I have known Michael since 1855—I do not know that he had nothing to do with the jewellery trade until his brother went into business for himself—I had not seen him for many years—Montague is the eldest brother; I do not think he is as old as 45—I saw Lewis at his place in Lime Street, City.</p>
<p>[
<hi rend="smallCaps">ADJOURNED</hi>.]</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-62" type="surname" value="LENNIE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-62" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES LENNIE</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, and carry on business with my brother at 62, Church Street, Liverpool—I purchased two stones spoken to by Mr. Whitfield, and sold them to Mr. Harris, of Bury Street, Liverpool—they were a ruby and an emerald.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-63" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-63" type="surname" value="HARRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-63" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HARRIS</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, of 28, Bury Street, Liverpool—I pur-chased an emerald and a ruby from the last witness, and my brother sold them to Mr. Meyers for 151.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-64" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-64" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-64" type="surname" value="WILSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-64" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMBS WILSON</persName> </hi>. I am a stationer, at 315, Oxford Street—these books were sold from my place of business, the ledger in September last—I have</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050029"/>
<p>an entry in my book September 27th—I can't speak as to the date when the others were sold.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-65" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-65" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-65" type="surname" value="MOORE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-65" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MOORE</persName> </hi>. I am manager of Messrs. Jonas, Brothers, of Ely Place, jewellers and diamond merchants—Mr. Jonas purchased the ruby and emerald spoken to by Mr. Meyers, of Mr. Cook, of Long Lane—I have them here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-66" type="surname" value="DRAYSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-66" type="given" value="CHARLES DUPIN"/>CHARLES DUPIN DRAYSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-called.</hi>) I recognise these two stones as coming from a ruby, emerald, and brilliant ring, supplied to Montague Goldsmith—I have the brilliant with me which formed the third stone in the ring.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-67" type="surname" value="DAVEY"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-67" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL DAVEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Sergeant</hi>). On 13th January I apprehended the prisoner Rebecca—I read the warrant to her—there were two warrants, for forgery and receiving—she was living at that time at Anderson Villa, Maiden, Surrey, in the name of Ward, with her mother and sister—I read the warrant to her, and she said, "I am innocent; what I did I did for my brother, and the warrant has been obtained by lies"—on 21st February I received some information, and sent Detective Marohmont into the City to apprehend Michael, and bring him to me at Marlborough Street—I was three weeks looking for him—I read the warrant to him and he made no answer—I searched him, and found a pocket-book containing various memoranda, and three bills of exchange, two drawn by Montague, and one by Michael, and accepted by three different persons—on 22nd March I apprehended Lewis Goldsmith, at 54, Lime Street, City—I read the warrant to him, and he made no answer—I don't remember his mentioning any name about the pawn tickets—I asked him if the cupboards in the office belonged to him—he said "No; they belong to my master, Mr. Constable, what do You want t"—I said "I want the books connected with the business at 66, Conduit Street"—he said "They are at my lodgings"—we went together in a cab to 11, Charlotte Street, where he opened a cupboard, and pro-duced the books—he said he had received them from his brother Michael—I have not succeeded in apprehending Montague—I have held a warrant for him since December—Mr. Whitfield's name was mentioned by Lewis when I apprehended him—as far as I can remember he said, "I received the tickets from Montague, and I gave them to Mr. Whitfield to take the things out to sell for the benefit of the family."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.—I found Lewis at Mr. Constable's office—I knew he had been there as manager to Mr. Constable for some time, and I ascertained it from Mr. Constable since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-68" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-68" type="surname" value="HULBERT"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-68" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY HULBERT</persName> </hi>. I obtain my living by charring—I know the family of the Goldsmiths—in October and November last they were living at 15, Colville Terrace—I was in the habit of working for them—I did not live there altogether—I went backwards and forwards, night and morning—the whole of the family lived there, father and mother, Mr. Michael, Mr. Mon-tague, Mr. Henry, and Rebecca and the other daughters—Lewis J had not seen there twice all the time, I think—I acted as servant there till they were suited—they were very clean people, indeed, and the house was fur-nished very nice—the living was in a very poor way—Mr. Montague went out of a morning to business—Rebecca and Montague went out together of a morning, and came back in the evening together—Rebecca wore a great deal of jewellery, and likewise a great many rings.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>. I think it was the beginning of November that I first went there—I advertised for a little work at the end of October, and they answered my advertisement—I probably went there</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050030"/>
<p>some time in November—I used generally to be there at 9 in the morning, and leave at 9 or 10—there was one servant when I first went, but she only remained a week, and then I was the only one I went from day to day and I did Mr. Montague's washing—I had a day at home then—I had one day out of the week to do that—I went there on Sundays, so that I was there six days a-week—I was examined before, and I said that I had seen the prisoner Rebecca wear two or three rings—sometimes she wore more than that—I can't tell you the day of the month I left—it was on a Saturday after Christmas—I think it was in January—I was there verv nearly three months—it may have been the end of January that I left—I cooked at times and sometimes the young ladies—Rebecca was very ill indeed at one time—I think it was when this affair took place—she was laid up in bed, she remained in bed some days—I don't rememeber Mr. Charman coming: I remember some gentleman coming, but when any one came the kitchen-door was shut—it was a day or two before he came that she was ill—when they went out in the morning I don't know where they went to—I know nothing of them when they left the house—Montague was the eldest brother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-69" type="surname" value="MEYERS"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-69" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MEYERS</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller and dealer in diamonds and precious stones, at Eleanor Street, Hackney—I purchased a ruby and an emerald in Liverpool, from Mr. Harris, and I sold them subsequently to Mr. Cook.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-70" type="surname" value="DRAYSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-70" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED DRAYSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>), I have seen the jewellery which has been produced—I have seen the pearl ornaments which were sold for the double wedding—they were supplied on the 5th December, on approbation, and finally delivered on the 9th, and they were all pawned on the 14th December—out of the jewels which were supplied and were to be shown to Sir Anthony Rothschild, I identify the five jewels which ultimately remained out of the large parcel of 9,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—they were delivered by us on 4th November, and the brilliant head ornament was pawned on the 5th, aid the rest on the 19th and 21st November—one was a brilliant bracelet whidh formed part of those goods and which was ultimately said to be sold to Sir John Gibbons, and which I find amongst those which have been produced, and that was pawned on the 19th November for 303
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that was charged to them at 1, 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it was had on approbation on the 4th and charged on 21st—the brilliant butterfly brooch, 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., was entered on approbation on 15th October and charged on 23rd, I identify that as one produced from Rowleys', pawned for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 17th October—it was broken up, and the stones pro-duced I recognise as forming a portion of that brooch; one stone was very peculiar—the pearl necklace, 3, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which was said to be sold to Sir Francis Truscott, was entered on approbation on 22nd October, charged on 31st, and is the one that was produced and given back by Hennell—it was sold to Danby for 650
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., a day or two after it was charged—there was a brilliant half-hoop ring, 63
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., delivered on 14th September; that was the one that was pawned by Michael at Rowleys'—I have seen the ruby and emerald and the diamond which has been returned, they formed the three stones in the ring at 155
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which was pawned in December—I identify all those produced which Mr. Charman does not claim, as belonging to us, and sent by us on approbation—I find by comparing the dates of delivery with the dates which have been given by the various jewellers and pawnbrokers, that they were all pawned a few days after they were delivered, and at prices very considerably below the cost price; the price charged to them—the pearl necklace which was charged at 3, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cost us</p>
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<p>2, 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—we bought it as it was, about six months before—we hare to keep a valuable thing like that in stock a longtime before we get rid of it, and then take off discount when sold—I believe the entries in this ledger to he in the handwriting of Michael Goldsmith—all the books, apparently, are in his handwriting—since we have got the pearl necklace back, which cost us 2, 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., we have sold twenty-three of the pearls out of forty-three to Mr. Harry Emanuel forl, 922
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-71" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HARRISON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-called</hi>). I have seen the articles produced by the various jewellers and pawnbrokers—I have seen the diamonds and pearls which were supplied for the purpose of the double wedding of Pakenham's; there are five articles out of the nine which were left—they were supplied on 5th December—the diamond aigrette, charged at 1, 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., was partly produced by Danby's, of Wigmore Street; the whole has been produced in various ways—that was sold to Danby for 225
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the 9th, and supplied on the 5th—it has been divided and produced—the brooch centre was sold at Robert Attenborough's for 195
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the plume at Richard Attenborough's for 97
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the loop and chain earrings, which formed a part of that wedding suite, 575
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., were delivered on 5th December, and the ones which were sold to Phillips, and were produced by Mr. Walters's assistant yesterday—those are the earrings—575
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is our price for those—I find the five articles all pawned, from the 9th to the 14th of December, which were delivered on the 5th; and, in addition, I find a great number of articles of those produced which were delivered by me—I identify all those which are not claimed by Mr. Drayson—I find that all the articles which are produced were pawned within a few days of the time I delivered them, and for prices considerably under the prices charged; in most of the eases they were pledged before they were charged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-72" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS COOK</persName> </hi>. I am a diamond worker—I bought from Mr. Meyers the two stones, the emerald and ruby, and afterwards sold them to Messrs. Jonas Brothers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-73" type="given" value="CHARLES DUPIX"/>CHARLES DUPIX DRAYSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-called</hi>). I have seen two rings which were in the possession of Mr. Parr—they are my property—they were supplied on approbation; a diamond and ruby half-hoop, and an emerald and diamond half-hoop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-74" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED PARR</persName> </hi>. I am George Parr's brother—I produce two rings, a diamond and ruby half-hoop, and a diamond and sapphire half-hoop—they were pawned on 14th December, 1872, by Emily Goldsmith, 14, Carleton Terrace, W.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-75" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED DRAYSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>). We did not have several interviews with Michael after Rebecca was in custody, it was before—he did not come after she was in custody—he came on several occasions after we had a warrant for the apprehension of Montague—he did not return 4,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of property, about 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth—he did return property—he had two interviews with our firm, and he wrote to say he would come again, but he never came—he had one interview with me and one with my cousin—I suppose the first one was about two days after we got the warrant against Montague—I believe he knew the warrant was out—I don't know that he did—he did not say he knew it, and we had not told him—we had not bills out when he came—he saw me on the second occasion, that was four or five days after the warrant had been applied for.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-76" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CHARMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>). I think I instituted this prosecution about twenty-four hours before Mr. Drayson came into it</p>
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<p>—it may be that he did not commenoe for some two months after we had commenced—I really don't know about the dates; it was my impression that it was twenty-four hours, and it is my impression still—I don't think Mr. Drayson's case was conoluded before I was called as a witness—I think you are mistaken—I heard Mr. Wontner say that it was possible he might be instructed by Mr. Drayson, but he had not been instructed yet—I don't remember that I saw Michael Goldsmith after Rebecca was in custody—my impression is it was not so—he came to me after we had obtained a warrant against Montague; that was not after Rebecca was in custody—I had not bills printed—I think Michael came with his father once—I think he came once alone, and he may have come once subsequently: I think three times after the warrant had been obtained for the arrest of Montague.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There was one stone in the diamond aigrette which I believe cost a considerable sum of money, can you tell us what it was?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> 400 guineas one stone—that is very nearly double the amount at which the whole thing was sold.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that the Uth and 14th Counts, which cliarged the prisoners with unlawfully receiving the goods obtained by Montague by false pretences, were bad in point of law, inasmuch as they did not disclose any indictable offence; the false pretences were not set out in those Counts, which he contended was necessary in order to make the Counts good Certain false pretences only were made a misdemeanour by the statute, and it must be shown on the face of the record that the false pretences alleged were such as came wühin the meaning of the statute. The term "false pretences" was not a term of art; it was not like a charge of receiving stolen goods, the word "stealing" having a definite meaning attached to it. The misdemeanour, by this statute, was only a misdemeanour if the goods were received under circumstances which made the obtaining of them indictable.</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">See Reg. v.</hi> Mason.) 2 Term Reports, p.681.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">on same side</hi>)
<hi rend="italic">called attention to the</hi> 95
<hi rend="italic">th Section of</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">Vic, c</hi> 96,
<hi rend="italic">upon which these Counts were framed, also to Reg. v. Marsh Denison's Crown Cases, p.</hi> 505,
<hi rend="italic">and contended that they should have alleged the offence to be "against the statute, "the statute defining what mis-demeanours were indictable. The indictment should show what the false pretences were by which the goods were obtained, otherwise there was nothing to show that a misdemeanour had been committed.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">in support of the Counts, contended that the indictment was not specially for obtaining goods by false pretences, but for the substantive offence of unlawfully receiving goods which had been obtained by false pretences. It was sufficient that they were received, if it was known that they were obtained by false pretences. The actual false pretence might not be known to the person who received, or even that the goods were obtained by false pretences from the persons to whom they belonged. The gist of the offence was the receiving, and that in itself would be an unlawful act if it be shown that the goods were obtained by false pretences, and that they knew it. He also contended that if there was anything in the objection, it was on the face of the record; and by</hi> 14 and 15 Vic, o.100, sec.25,
<hi rend="italic">the defendants must proceed by Writ of Error.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE DEPUTY-RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">was of opinion that the objection was a serious one, and would reserve the question for the Court for the consideration of Crown Cases Reserved. The case against Lewis was withdrawn.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LEWIS GOLDSMITH</hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MICHAEL GOLDSMITH</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 2
<hi rend="italic">nd</hi>, 3
<hi rend="italic">rd</hi>, 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 10
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 11
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 13
<hi rend="italic">th, and</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th Counts.</hi> </rs> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">REBECCA GOLDSMITH</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">th and</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th Counts—The Jury recommended her to mercy, fancying she had been drawn into it by her brothers</hi> </rs>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-321-18730505 t18730505-321-punishment-1"/>Judgment reserved.</rs> </hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">There were other indictments against the prisoners, which were postponed till the next Session.</hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday</hi>, 5
<hi rend="italic">th May</hi>, 1873.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Five Years' Penal Ser
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<interp inst="t18730505-327-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>, to three indictments for feloniously uttering forged orders, with intent to defraud.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Six Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18730505-327-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18730505-328-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/> Embezzling the sums of 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">for the Prosecution, offered no evidence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">offered no evidence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">NOT GUILTY</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
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<p>330.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM BARNES</hi> (18)</persName>
<rs id="t18730505-330-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18730505-330-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-330-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing one watch of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-330-offence-1 t18730505-name-91"/>Thomas Feacham</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-92" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS FEACHAM</persName> </hi>. I am a machine ruler, of 16, Abchurch Lane—on 15th February, just after midnight, I was in Bishopsgate Street, with two friends—the prisoner and two others came up to me—the prisoner pressed against me and wanted to ask me a question; I tried to get away, but they followed me, and I felt his hand at my pocket—I seized him with my watch in his hand, which was passed up—it is my property.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was dark—the whole thing only occupied a second or two—I had never seen the prisoner before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-93" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-93" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FLETCHER</persName> </hi>. I was with Feacham, and heard him say "I hare lost my watch"—he had hold of the prisoner, and I got hold of his other arm, and held him till a policeman came.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> His two fellows got away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-94" type="surname" value="GODDARD"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-94" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED GODDARD</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 876,). I saw the prosecutor holding the prisoner, and went up and took three of them in custody; I had one in each hand, and one under my arm—I saw the prisoner drop the watch down the left leg of his trousers, he put the heel of his boot on it; I called upon a witness to pick it up—this is it, the glass and hands are completely crushed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had seen the prisoner before—he told me he had only</p>
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<p>just come up from Liverpool, and that his father was a dealer—I found that that was quite false.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-95" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-95" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-95" type="surname" value="FOLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-95" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FOLEY</persName> </hi>. The constable called me in Bishopsgate Street, and asked me to pick up what was on the pavement, and I picked up this watch; it was near the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was not in the gutter but on the pavement, the other two were on his right side.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-330-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-330-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-330-18730505 t18730505-330-punishment-8"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>331.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE DUNN</hi> (25)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18730505-331-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-331-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing a coat and waistcoat, the property of
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ST. AUBYN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-98" type="surname" value="HASLET"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-98" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED HASLET</persName> </hi>. I am a tailor, of 142, Fenchurch Street—on 1st April, about 6 p.m., I was in Star Alley, leading from Mark Lane to Fenchurch Street, and saw the prisoner with several coats on, and a waistcoat tucked under one of them, he crossed over to the Lord Napier, and I gave him in custody; he said that he bought them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-99" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-99" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH SARNES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 747). I took the prisoner, and asked him where he got the coats—he said he bought them; I asked him who of, he made no answer, and I took him to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-100" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-100" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM OSBORNE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 711). I was at the station when the prisoner was brought in, I saw two coats taken from under the one he was wearing, and the waistcoat from under one of them—he made no reply to the charge, he gave his address at a friend's, who I found.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-101" type="given" value="JOHN ANTHONY"/>JOHN ANTHONY RUTTER</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Rugg & Co., of 7, Mark Lane—one of these coats and the waistcoat is mine—I left them on a peg in my office on 1st April, a little after a quarter to six o'clock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-102" type="given" value="SAMUEL THOMAS"/>SAMUEL THOMAS WEST</persName> </hi>. I am housekeeper to Good & Rugg—I saw five coats and two waistcoats safe at ten minutes to six o'clock, and missed them next morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> A man was hawking the coats and asked me to buy them; I bought two and a waistcoat, and the gentleman came up and asked me where I got them; I said that I bought them. You will see hawkers selling second-hand clothes in the streets at all times, and a man who buys them is not liable to know that they are got wrongly.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>332.
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<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-332-offence-1 t18730505-name-104"/>Joseph Sophus Levin</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ST. AUBYN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-105" type="surname" value="LEVIN"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-105" type="given" value="JOSEPH SOPHUS"/>JOSEPH SOPHUSLEVIN</persName> </hi>. I am a printer, of 59
<hi rend="smallCaps">A</hi>, Great Tower Street—on 26th March I went home and changed my coat—my errand boy afterwards said something to me, and I missed a great coat, a thin coat, and another coat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-106" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DAY</persName> </hi>. I am twelve years old, and am errand boy to Mr. Levin—on 26th March I saw the prisoner in the middle of Red Cross Square, putting on two coats of my master's—I went back to the office and missed the coats, and told my master.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I am innocent. Nobody saw me near the place.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a previous conviction in July</hi>, 1871,
<hi rend="italic">in the name of George Thompson, when lie was sentenced to eighteen months' imprisonment, to which he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-332-18730505 t18730505-332-punishment-9"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>333.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SUSAN WRIGHT</hi> (34)</persName>
<rs id="t18730505-333-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18730505-333-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-333-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing an order for the payment of 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the property of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MOODY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-109" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-109" type="surname" value="GLEESON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-109" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET GLEESON</persName> </hi>. I am now out of a situation—in May last I was servant to Mr. Wells, at 17, Charing Cross—the prisoner worked there as charwoman, but I did not first become acquainted with her there; my mother knew her first—my mother has married again, and has gone to America—I told the prisoner that I expected money from America from my mother, for me and my brother and sister to go over to her—I did not know how much—I left Mr. Wells' service, and went to live at Bath—I had not then received any letter from my mother containing money—I got a letter from my mother just before Christmas, and then came up to London and saw Mr. Watts—I went with him and Chalkley, the constable, to 5, Tur-ner's Court, and saw the prisoner—she said "What is this for?"—he said "It is for the cheque you have cashed in Margaret Gleeson's name"—she said "Don't take me, because of my children"—I have seen the prisoner write, and have had several letters from her—this signature, "Margaret Gleeson, "on the front and back of this cheque is her writing—I had never seen the cheque.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I gave evidence before the Magistrate and also here last Session, when the Jury could not agree (
<hi rend="italic">see vol.</hi> lixvii.,
<hi rend="italic">page</hi> 390)—I said at Bow Street, "It is not my writing; it looks like the prisoner's writing"—I was certain that it was the prisoner's writing—I am living now in Regent Circus with a friend, Mrs. Harley—she is married—she is not in business—I left my situation in Bath when I came up to these Sessions—I could not go back in consequence of this case; my master could not be troubled so many times about my coming backwards and forwards from Bath—Mr. West has not called on me since the trial—I have not seen him—I first became acquainted with the prisoner when I was living in Scotland Yard—I have a sister who is deformed, but she has always earned her living while she was with the prisoner—I have taken her away—she is fifteen now, and she has been with the prisoner three years—she broke her leg while with the prisoner, and went to the hospital; and while she was there my mother was obliged to go to America and leave her there—I do not know that the people at the hospital were about to send my sister to the workhouse—the prisoner had her back for her own use—she was not as kind as a mother to her; she knocked her about shamefully—she was kind to her before my face—I do not remember whether I said last Session that she was as kind as a mother to her—I was in the family way when I was with Mr. Wells, but that has nothing to do with the prisoner thieving my money—the prisoner was sent for to Mr. Wells, but I did not go to her house and be confined there, I went to the Union—when I came out of the Union I went to the prisoner's house with my baby, but I did not sleep there—I did not remain at the house till I got a situation—I remained there about a fortnight; it may have been three weeks—I did not go straight from her house to my situation, I went into the country and stayed there a week, and she wrote me a letter to say that the bed was let to a gentleman, and I could not go back again—I told the Jury I did not sleep with the prisoner, but I slept in the house, up stairs with the landlady—the prisoner was as kind as a mother to me and my baby, but that is no reason why she should rob me—I did not pay her one single farthing, but she pawned my clothes, and my sister's, too; she has got them out now, but I had to go to a Magistrate first—nobody has been speaking to me about this case since last time—you asked me these questions last time, but I said nothing about pawning the clothes</p>
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<p>because you would not let me speak; you told me to hold my tongue when I was speaking—my mother used to write to the prisoner from America, and she used to write to my mother—there was no other servant at Mr. Wells's to go away in the family way.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner did not occupy the whole house, only lodg-ings—I did not sleep in her lodgings, but in another part of the house—I paid the landlady for my bedroom, and boarded with the prisoner—she said that it did not matter till I got a situation—I did not give her any of my clothes to pawn, she took them out of my box—I was not aware of it till I got my box, and then I wrote to her and got no answer, so I went be-fore a Magistrate—the prisoner never made any claim on me for money—I never owed her anything—she said that she would keep my sister, and no one should have her—she has worked for the prisoner as a servant, and I found her clothes, and as fast as I did so the prisoner pawned them—the prisoner had the benefit of her services for her board and lodging—I was confined on 16th May—I had been in Mr. Wells' service a year and eight months—he is here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-110" type="surname" value="CHALKLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-110" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CHALKLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 402). I went to the prisoner's house in Turner's Court and told her I should take her in charge for stealing and forging a cheque on a bank at Old Broad Street for 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I told her the amount in English money—she said, "It is quite true, but do not take me, for the sake of my poor children; I am guilty."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have been nearly twenty years in the police—my deposition was read over to me, and I put my mark to it—I said there that I told her it was a cheque for sixty-two dollars—it was at another conver-sation that I told her it was for 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I forget whether I told the Magis-trate that she said "I am guilty"—Mr. Wells was present when she said it—nothing was said quietly or secretly—I will swear I mentioned last Session that she said she was guilty.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-111" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-111" type="given" value="WILLIAM STEBBING"/>WILLIAM STEBBING WELLS</persName> </hi>. I am a butcher, of 17, Charing Cross—the prosecutrix was in my service, and the prisoner was occasionally employed there as charwoman—after Gleeson left, in May last, a letter came for her—I cannot say whether I saw one or more—I saw one undoubtedly directed to Margaret Gleeson—I saw an address on it, and the postmark was "Auburn, New York"—I gave it to some of my men to take it to the prisoner—I did not know anything about its containing money—I after-wards received a letter from Mrs. Carr, Margaret Gleeson's mother, and after that I went to the prisoner's lodging and told her that I had received a letter from Ellen Carr, enquiring if a letter was forwarded to Margaret Gleeson at my house, containing a cheque for 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I do not remember whether I showed her the letter or read it to her—she said that she had had the letter, and, acting under advice, she had been to the bank and got the money, as she considered the prosecutrix was in her debt, and she bad appropriated it to her own use—after that I went with the prosecutrix to Montague's bank, Old Broad Street—I also told the prisoner that she had done wrong—she said she was quite justified—she gave me no particulars of what sum Gleeson was indebted to her—I afterwards went with the con-stable and Gleeson to the prisoner's house—I cannot recollect what her words were, but she admitted having had the money, and begged not to be taken in custody—Gleeson had left my house in the family way, and I sent for the prisoner on that occasion, when we suddenly discovered it—I have never been charged with being the cause of the girl's misfortune, nor have</p>
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<p>I had to pay a single farthing in respect of the child—it was not imputed to me being the father of the child, only by Mr. Griffiths on the last occa-sion—another servant left in the family way, but not from my house of business, and she had only been in my house two months—I am married—it has never been imputed to me that I was the cause of the girl's ruin; it is not possible—up to the last trial no accusations of the kind had been thrown out against me—I have never been called upon to pay a single farthing for that girl or her child—I said on the last trial that Mr. Griffiths had thrown aspersions upon my character which were entirely undeserved.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I know that the prisoner is married and lives with her husband, who is a coachman, in Scotland Yard—she has five or six children—they are little things—I do not know the age of the eldest—when I sent for her it was for her to see after Margaret Gleeson—I do not think that was so long as three days before she was confined—she went to the work-house—I do not know where she went with her baby after she came out of the workhouse—I have not heard—I do not know that she went to the prisoner's—I have never lived away from my wife—I was present and heard all that the prisoner beard—I think he said "I charge you with felony"—but I was upset at the painful sight of seeing the children, that I don't know what he did say—the money was sometimes called dollars, and sometimes pounds—he said "pounds" because he would not know anything about dollars—I went to enquire what had become of the cheque, and naturally I stated in some way the contents of the letter—I cannot tell you in what way now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The letter caused me to go there—I did not know that the prisoner and the girl's mother were intimate friends before—I sent for the prisoner to take care of the girl.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-112" type="given" value="JOSEPH ARTHUR"/>JOSEPH ARTHUR BLACKMAN</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Samuel Montague & Co., of Old Broad Street, London.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you find an entry in your book of a draft paid to Margaret Gleeson?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You would not have the book last time, so I did not bring it to-day—I am not the person who actually handed any money over—in the course of business such a draft as that would be sent to our house in Liverpool—it was returned to our house from New York.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You never saw the prisoner till she was before the Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Never.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WELLS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">gave the prisoner a good character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury</hi> </rs>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Four Months' Imprisonment</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>334.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALFRED GRIMWOOD</hi> (15)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-334-offence-1 t18730505-name-114"/>Richard Nation</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. SLADE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">AUSTIN METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-115" type="surname" value="NATION"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-115" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD NATION</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor, and live at 4, Orchard Street, Portman Square—on 29th October last I had occasion to send this cheque to Mr. David Cracklow, 11, Mincing Lane, payable to him or order—there was no endorsement on it then—Mr. Cracklow's name appears on it now—I know his writing, but the endorsement is certainly not his—I sent the cheque in a letter and gave it to my clerk to post.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-116" type="surname" value="GORDON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-116" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY GORDON</persName> </hi>. I am an engineer's clerk at 20, Abingdon Street—on 29th October I was clerk to the last witness—I recollect seeing a letter</p>
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<p>addressed to "David Cracklow, "and a gentleman in the office added "Esquire"—the letter was posted in the pillar-box at the comer of Orchard Street and Oxford Street, between 1 and 4 o'clock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-117" type="surname" value="POWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-117" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD POWELL</persName> </hi>. I am a sub-sorter at the Vere Street Post-office—in the ordinary course of business if a letter was posted in the pillar-box, Orchard Street, between 1 and 4 o'clock, it would be taken to the Vere Street Post-office—and a letter for Mincing Lane would be sorted and sent in a sealed bag to the Eastern Central Office—on 29th October I sealed up the bags between 1 and 6 o'clock, and sent them off.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-118" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-118" type="surname" value="SAMPSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-118" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SAMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of letter-carriers at the General Post-office—a letter coming from the Vere Street Office, addressed to Mincing Lane, between 1 and 4 o'clock would be sent off the same evening—it would depend on the time the letter arrived.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-119" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-119" type="surname" value="CRACKLOW"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-119" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID CRACKLOW</persName> </hi>. I am a wine merchant, at 11, Mincing Lane—I do business with Mr. Nation—I expected to receive a cheque about 29th or 30th October from him—I did not receive one—the endorsement on this cheque is not in my handwriting—I did not authorise anyone to sign my name there—there is a letter-box at the street door of my office, and also one in my counting house—there was no lock on the box at that time—I think it possible that a person might get inside the passage behind the door where the letter-box was and take the letter out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-120" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-120" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-120" type="surname" value="ALLISTON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-120" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS ALLISTON</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk to Messrs. Waterlow's, at 24, Birchin Lane—the prisoner was formerly in their employ for about nine months—he left about a twelvemonth ago—he came to the place of business on 31st October last and asked for two 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill stamps—I gave them to him and he gave me this cheque for 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—it was endorsed as it is now—I asked him where he came from—he told me from Mr. Cracklow's—I asked him the address—he said 11, Mincing Lane, which I endorsed on the back—I asked whether he was a customer of ours, and he said "Yes"—I gave him the bill stamps, and the rest in cash, and he went away—we take cheques if we know the people—I had known the lad some time—I did not know Mr. Cracklow.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-121" type="surname" value="MOORE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-121" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW MOORE</persName> </hi>. I am a constable in the service of the General Post-office—I was instructed to make inquiries about this letter and Mr. Cracklow's cheque—in November last I called at Messrs. Mutter & Co., in Cannon Street—I found the prisoner there, employed as errand boy—I showed him this cheque and asked him if he knew anything about it—he said "Yes, "that he got it from a man thatt he met in a court, close to Messrs. Waterlow's, in Birchin Lane; he asked him to go into Waterlow's to cash it, to get two 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill stamps, and if any questions were asked to tell them he had come from Mr. Cracklow's, 11, Mincing Lane; he went into Messrs. Waterlow's and got the cheque cashed, and two 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill stamps and the remainder in cash; when he came out he saw the man higher up the court; he beckoned to him and he went to him and handed him the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. stamps, and the remainder in cash; he gave him 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for his trouble—after that I went with him down to Mr. Cracklow's office and placed him at the door where all the clerks came in, but he failed to identify anyone as the person who had given him the cheque—I gave him a piece of note paper and asked him to sign his own name on it, and also Mr. Cracklow's—this is the paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I asked him how he spelt Cracklow—and he spelt it first without the "k, "and then he spelt it properly—I told him to</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="187305050039"/>
<p>write it down, which he did—he said he forgot to put the "k" in—I took him into custody afterwards—he was perfectly ready with his explanation.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate:</hi> "All I have got to say is that other boys have got me into this trouble. I have not been stealing for myself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I had this cheque given me by a man in the court".</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-334-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>335.
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<interp inst="def1-335-18730505" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-335-18730505" type="surname" value="GRIMWOOD"/>
<interp inst="def1-335-18730505" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ALFRED GRIMWOOD</hi> </persName> was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
<rs id="t18730505-335-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18730505-335-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-335-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/> for stealing an order for the payment of 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., the property of
<persName id="t18730505-name-123" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-123" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-123" type="surname" value="REYNOLDS"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-335-offence-1 t18730505-name-123"/>Augustus Reynolds</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-124" type="surname" value="ODLING"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-124" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ODLING</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Greville, meat salesman, of Charter-house Street—on 31st March I received this crossed cheque from Mr. Greville, it was drawn by him and is payable to Messrs. Sandon—I enclosed it in an envelope, addressed it to Messrs. Sandon, and sent it to the poet—there was no endorsement on the cheque then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-125" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-125" type="surname" value="SWAIN"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-125" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES SWAIN</persName> </hi>. I am servant to Mr. Greville, of Charterhouse Street—on 31st March I had some letters to post—I put all I have given me in the letter-box about 3 o'clock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-126" type="surname" value="SAMPSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-126" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SAMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of letter-carriers at the General Post-office—a letter posted in the St. John's Street, Smithfield, Post-office about 3 o'clock in the afternoon would be brought to the General Post-office and sent by the letter-carrier with his delivery at 4.10 or 4.20—it was 4.20 when he left on that occasion.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-127" type="surname" value="PARKER"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-127" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PARKER</persName> </hi>. I am a letter-carrier in the General Post-office—I was on duty on 31st March last—St Swithin's Lane is in my delivery—I went out about 4.20 or 4.30 to deliver letters that afternoon—I know Mr. Sandon's office—I should be there about 5 o'clock—his office is on the first floor, and when he is gone there is a street-door box—the house closes at various times, sometimes it is closed earlier than others—I don't remember putting a letter in the box; we have so many it is impossible to recollect.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-128" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-128" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-128" type="surname" value="SANDON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-128" type="given" value="ALFRED GEORGE"/>ALFRED GEORGE SANDON</persName> </hi>. I carry on business as a builder with my brother, under the name of Sandon Brothers, 17, St. Swithin's Lane—we are in the habit of having business transactions with Mr. Greville—we have received a cheque from him every week for the last twelve months—I never received this cheque—the endorsement on it is "William, "that is not my name—it is not written by me or my brother—I gave no one authority to do it for me—there is also an address on the back, "10, Minories"—I never had an office there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-129" type="surname" value="BRYANT"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-129" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRYANT</persName> </hi>. I am a chemist, and keep the post-office at Alagate, next door to the chemist's shop—on the 1st April last a boy came in for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of stamps, and put down this cheque for 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—it was not required to be endorsed, as it was payable to bearer—there was a name on it "W. Sandon, "but no address—I said to the boy, "Where do you come from?"—he said "10, Minories"—I know the house is let out in offices, the upper part, and I said "Put down the address, "and he wrote it—I gave him the stamps, and 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in gold, and he went away—I saw the prisoner afterwards at the post-office, but he was much smarter dressed than he is now—he said before the Magistrate, "I was the boy that went to his shop with the cheque."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-130" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-130" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HOBBS</persName> </hi>. I live with my parents at 29, Rutland Street—I have known the prisoner about twelve months—I made his acquaintance at a</p>
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<p>Sunday-school—on 1st April I met him in Rutland Street—he said he was going in the City, and asked me whether I would go with him, and I went with him—I asked him what he was going for—he told me to wait presently and I should see what he was going: for—I found he went in Aldgate, to Mr. Bryant's place, and there I saw Mr. Bryant give him some stamps—the prisoner told me to wait outside—he put the stamps underneath his coat—I went to another post-office afterwards with the prisoner, in Aldgate—he told me to go in and change some stamps for him, and I went in—he gave me some stamps to change—I sold them for 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I gave that to the prisoner—after that I went into another post-office in the Commercial Road—the prisoner gave me the rest of the stamps and said I was to receive 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. all but 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for them—the person in the shop asked me who I came from and I told him, and afterwards he sent me to the post-master—he put me in a private room, and put questions to me—when I came out the prisoner was gone, without the stamps or the money that he sent me for—I never had done anything of that kind before for the prisoner—I gave the prisoner's address to the officer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth, but I found only 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I asked him where he came from—he gave me his address, and he said his father had bought them, and he wanted them changed—I asked him why his father did not take them back to the office, as I should charge him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. commission for them—he said his father had bought them, and he did not require them—I took possession of the stamps, and the inquiries not being satisfactory, I took the boy up stairs to the postmaster.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-132" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BARTLETT</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of letter-carriers in the Eastern District post-office—on 1st April I saw the boy Hobbs—in consequenoe of what he said I went outside, to see if there was anyone with him—I saw someone; I believe it was the prisoner—I asked him if he was connected with the boy that was inside—he said "No, I am not; I am waiting for someone"—he gave his address as living in the Minories—that was contrary to what Hobbs had stated, and I went inside, to make inquiries of the boy, and when I went out again the prisoner was gone, and I saw no more of him till he was in custody—I am not quite sure that it was the prisoner; I believe it to be him—he had not got the scarf on he has now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-133" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-133" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW MOORE</persName> </hi>. On 10th April I met the prisoner in Philpot Street Commercial Road—I had seen Hobbs before, and he gave me the prisoner's address as 21, John Street, Sidney Square—I took him to the solicitor's office—Hobbs was there—the prisoner was asked if he had been to St. Swithin's Lane—he said "No," he had not—I asked him if he had not seen me there about the 3rd or 4th of April—he said "No," he had not; he had not been through St. Swithin's Lane for a fortnight—I had seen him inside the street-door of No.17, Mr. Sandon's office—he gave me his address, 21, John Street, Sidney Square—I have been to No.10, Minories, but the prisoner was not known there—he was then taken into custody—it was about 3 o'clock in the afternoon I saw him at No.17.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I was not there for stealing, or doing anything of that kind; that I never thought of doing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-134" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GARDNER</persName> </hi>. I am one of the senior clerks in the Post Office—I was present on the 10th April, when the prisoner was brought in, and I heard what was said to him—he was asked where he got the cheque for 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—</p>
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<p>he said two boys had given it to him at Fenohurch Street, between 5 and 6 o'clock the day before he changed it; that an arrangement had been made to meet the boys in the Commercial Road the next day, between 3 and 4 o'clock—the boys had asked him to get the cheque cashed—the next day he met Hobbs, and took him to the post-office in Aldgate, and purchased 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of postage-stamps; that he was asked there where he came from; he said No.10, Minories; he was asked to write that address on the cheque, and he did so—he afterwards gave Hobbs some of the stamps to sell at the post-office in the Commercial Road, and as Hobbs did not come out again, he went to look after the two boys who had given him the cheque in the Commercial Road, but he could not find them—he was asked the names and addresses of the two boys; he gave them as William Francis and Thomas James, and he said he did not know where they lived.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I went down the Commercial Road to see the two boys, and when I did see them I gave them 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and they gave me 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for my trouble, and called me a fool for sending the boy to get the stamps, and I told them to be off. The gentleman came and asked me if I knew anything about the stamps, and I said "No, "to get myself out of the trouble. I have known the boys for the last twelve months; I knew a little where they lived, and I know them well. I am very sorry for what I have done; I hope this will be a lesson to me.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, ksq.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-336-offence-1 t18730505-name-140"/>Herbert Russell</persName>, officers, in the execution of their duty.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">See "Reg v.</hi> Houlihan," vol Ixxvii.,
<hi rend="italic">page</hi> 349.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SIMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-141" type="surname" value="JOYCE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-141" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES JOYCE</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 261). On Sunday night, 2nd March, about 1 o'clock, I was on duty in Victoria Street, Westminster, and heard cries of "Stop thief!"—I went in the direction in which the cries proceeded, and saw a soldier and Houlihan running, and the prisoner running alter them—I took Houlihan in custody, and he was so violent that we were obliged to take him face downwards—the prisoner put his foot between Dengate's legs and threw him down on one side—he also kicked Barnes, but I could not pay much attention in the struggle.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-142" type="surname" value="DENGATE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-142" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DENGATE</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 232). On Sunday evening, 2nd March, I went to Pye Street and saw Joyce taking Houlihan into custody, when we got to Strutton Ground I saw the prisoner trying to get Houlihan away—he put his foot before me on purpose, and said "You old b----, I will give you something, "and I fell down—it was an accident.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-143" type="surname" value="HART"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-143" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HART</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 416). On 2nd March, at 1 o'clock, a.m., I was assisting Joyce and Dengate to take Houlihan—I saw the prisoner in Rochester Row, he pushed me twice by the shoulders and attempted to lay hold of Houlihan; he obstructed us all the way to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-144" type="surname" value="BARNES"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-144" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BARNES</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B R</hi> 23). I assisted Joyce, Dengate, and Russell in taking Houlihan—the prisoner got hold of Houlihan and tried to get him away—he said "You old b----s, you are killing him"—I did not see him strike the other constables.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-145" type="surname" value="RUSSELL"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-145" type="given" value="HERBERT"/>HERBERT RUSSELL</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 49). I assisted the other constables in</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I am innocent—I never threw anybody down, my hands were occupied all the while.</p>
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<p>337.
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<interp inst="t18730505-337-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>. Burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LANQFORD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-148" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-148" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR HUNT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman V</hi> 125). On Saturday, 12th April, about 3 o'clock, a.m.—I was in Lower Richmond Road, Mortlake, about five miles from Mr. Webb's house at Teddington, and saw the prisoner with this bundle (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I asked him what he had in the bundle—he said a water proof cloak and dress belonging to his mother, which she had left at his house at Kingston the previous week—he looked very bulky and I asked him to unbutton his mackintosh, under which I found three coats; he said that two of them belonged to his father—he has one of them on now—he gave his aunt's address near the railway station—but he said that he could not exactly recollect the name as she had not been there long—I told him that his account was not satisfactory, and took him to Richmond Station, and found on him a pocket-book, a hymn-book, two pairs of gloves, a whistle, a punch, two knives, and a pair of studs—he did not appear to have been drinking.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-149" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY STELL</persName> </hi>. I am cook to Donald Webb, of Teddington—on Good Friday, 11th April, I went to bed, at 10.15—having fastened the kitchen window with the catch—next morning at 7.15 I found it unfastened, and the window open—these two cotton dresses are mine—the cloak and dress were safe at the kitchen fire the night before—there was also a waterproof cloak, and black cloth jacket, a black skirt, and the two cotton dresses, all my property.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-150" type="given" value="DONALD"/>DONALD WEBB</persName> </hi>. I live at Leamington House, Teddington—on the morning of 12th April, my cook spoke to me; I went into the kitchen, and found the window and back-door open—some goods had been taken away, and I missed a great coat, containing a pocket-boook and gloves, also a mackintosh, a knife, and some studs; they were safe on Good Friday even ing—this is my great coat (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-151" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TREADAWAY</persName> </hi>. I live at Teddington—on Good Friday night, about 10 o'clock, I met the prisoner just at the back of the house where I lodge, about a stone's throw from Mr. Wells's house—I met him first about 6 o'clock, and was with him till 10.30—he had a
<hi rend="italic">tidy</hi> drop of drink with me, and he was pretty
<hi rend="italic">tight</hi> when I left him—I saw him to the train.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-152" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR HUNT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). He had a return ticket from Richmond on him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury</hi>**—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>338.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH EDWARD HARRIS</hi> (38)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18730505-338-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing three photographic lenses and one camera, the property of
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-154" type="given" value="THOMAS JOHN"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LYONS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-155" type="given" value="THOMAS JOHN"/>THOMAS JOHN BARNES</persName> </hi>. I am a photographer, of 422, Mile End Road—about 20th August I entrusted the prisoner with a photographic apparatus the arrangement I made was that he was to go through the country to the cathedral towns of England and photograph a series of views—I was to</p>
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<p>pay the whole of the expenses of the journey, and when any profit was made the prisoner was to have a share, but that share has never been divided—when the work was finished the apparatus was to be returned; I gave him no authority to dispose of it, he was to act as my servant—I made inquiries of the prisoner from time to time as to the condition of the lens, and he assured me that it was perfectly safe, and gave me the address of an hotel or coffee-house at Ramsgate, where he said that he had left it—in consequence of what I heard I went to a photographer named Wright, 99, East India Road—I had previously been to Archbutt's, a pawnbroker in Westminster Bridge Road, and had written to the place at Ramsgate—there were three lenses, a camera, and tent—two of the lenses were stereo-doublets, numbered, and I can identify them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Was the camera ever your property at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I was responsible to the maker for the payment, although you bought it; but it is not the camera at all, it is the lenses which are my property—towards the end of August you sold me some property which was in pledge, part of which was the subject of the present charge—it was afterwards redelivered to you outside my place—you were to work for me, all the business was done in the name of my firm, your name never appeared—I produced an account at the Police Court of the cash transactions between us, but I have not got it here—here is my receipt for the lens (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) there is an item of 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the accounts, it is not for a dress suit—I made advances to you with a view to profit afterwards—I have no knowledge what you did with the money—you may have gone to Rochester in March and brought an order for 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it has never been executed; you did no photographing there—you went to Rochester and Canterbury and brought me orders, but they have never been verified—the verification was to be in writing, but I have never seen it—I have not tried to verify it—I hold seventy plates.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is there at this moment an open account between the prisoner and you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I have advanced money to him and have not been recouped—I charge him with these lenses because he has pawned them and sold the tickets—he bought the camera and I supplied the lenses, and he has taken the whole—the seventy plates in my possession have been produced jointly by his camera and my lens—I have kept an account against him of everything I have spent and everything I received—the lenses are put down at what they cost, not to him but to the special account—these things are my property, and would not have been taken into account in dividing profits at all—I put them in the book because I was putting down all the money I spent—I have charged him with the lenses.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered that there was no case against the prisoner.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<p>339.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK ANSELL</hi> (43)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PLATT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-158" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-158" type="surname" value="ANSELL"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-158" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE ANSELL</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's wife; we live at 15, Marlborough Square, Chelsea—on the evening of 7th April, about 6.30 p.m., we had a few words—I did not say a great deal to him; he said that I was always talking about him, and I said that his name was not worth mentioning—I think that vexed him.—he took up the poker from the fire and knocked me</p>
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<p>on the left side of the head; I fell on my knees, and received two very heavy blows on the back of my head; I put my hand up and got a third blow on my hand—Mrs. Ford came and took me into her room, and Dr. Roach saw me—I kept my bed ten days; I am very much better, but have not got the use of my hand yet and my head is not well—I was in first and then he came in—I do not think he had been drinking.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-159" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-159" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY FORD</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of James Ford, and live in the same house—I heard screams of "Murder!" and saw the prosecutrix on the landing, bleeding from her head—the prisoner was on the stairs, with a poker in his hand—I put something round her head—the prisoner was not drunk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-160" type="given" value="GEORGE HENBY"/>DR. GEORGE HENBY RECKZALL</persName> </hi>. I live at Alexander Square, Brompton—the prosecutrix was brought to my surgery, suffering from a wound on the top of her head, another on the side of her face, and another at the back—one wound was three inches, and another two and a half, they went down to the bone—they must have been done with some force; a poker would be a likely instrument to produce them, the blunt part of it—she was almost insensible, and I did not think it advisable for her to be taken to the hospital—I attended her at her residence some time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-161" type="given" value="THEODORE"/>THEODORE COPUS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 168). I was called, and saw Mrs. Ansell in the street—I took her to a doctor—I said to the prisoner "Ansell, I must take you for seriously assaulting your wife"—he said, "Oh, let me see her!"—I took him up into the room where she was in bed, and she said "Oh, Ansell, you have killed me!"—he made no reply—he was sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I did it in the heat of passion. I have not long returned from America. I had a sun-stroke while I was in America, and I hardly knew what I was doing."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of unlawfully wounding</hi> </rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-339-18730505 t18730505-339-punishment-12"/>
<hi rend="italic">Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>340.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE PRIOR</hi> (25)</persName>
<rs id="t18730505-340-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18730505-340-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-340-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="animalTheft"/>, Stealing a gelding, the property of
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-163" type="surname" value="IMRIE"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-340-offence-1 t18730505-name-163"/>Andrew George Imrie</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SIMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-164" type="surname" value="CULPIT"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-164" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD CULPIT</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler—on 6th March, 1872, I had a grey gelding in a meadow adjoining my house at Harlington, Middlesex—it had been twenty weeks at grass—Mr. Imrie sent it to me—I saw it on 6th March, and missed it on the 8th—I know of no one having permission to take it away—it was worth about 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it was brought to me by a con stable on the 16th—I have never seen the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-165" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BASHALL</persName> </hi>. I am ostler at the Reindeer, Chigwell—on the 9th March, 1872, the prisoner offered me a grey gelding pony which he had with him for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I bought it of him next morning for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I knew him before, not as a dealer in horses, but he sold one now and then—I sold the pony to Frank Gibson for 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>—I saw the same pony produced by Gashon in March, 1872—the prisoner was coming past at the time, and I called him, and told him he was wanted—he came up to the stable, and the constable said "Did not you sell this young man a grey pony?"—he said "Yes"—I said "Should you know it if you were to see the grey horse?"—he said "Yes"—I fetched the pony to the door, and he said that it was the same—the constable asked him where he got it—he said that he bought it in Smithfield market—I saw the pony at Uxbridge last Thursday week—it was the same that I bought.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Can you swear that I am the man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-166" type="surname" value="IMRIE"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-166" type="given" value="ANDREW GEORGE"/>ANDREW GEORGE IMRIE</persName> </hi>. I am a dealer in human hair—in March, 1872,</p>
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<p>I had a grey gelding which I turned out to grass at Mr. Culpit's—I went down about it the next evening—I saw it next on the 19th, when one of Mr. Culpit'a assistants brought it—I have the pony now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-167" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-167" type="surname" value="GASHON"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-167" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY GASHON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 80). I received information, and took the prisoner on 15th March, 1872, at the Reindeer public-house, Epping Forest—I charged him with stealing the horse, and said "You will have to go with me"—he said "Not for me, "meaning that he would not go with me—we had a severe struggle, he assaulted me very much, slipped out of his coat, and escaped—I found the pony at Mr. Payne's, at Peckham, and took it to Mr. Culpit, who identified it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> How do you know me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You are the man I took in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-168" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-168" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-168" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I took the prisoner on 16th April, as an escaped prisoner, on a charge of stealing a horse—I had a description of him before, and had been looking for him—he said that he would go with me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I don't know anything of the crime whatever.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-340-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-340-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-169" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-169" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-169" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I produce a certificate (
<hi rend="italic">Read:
<persName id="t18730505-name-170">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-170" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-170" type="surname" value="CHURCHHILL"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-170" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>Thomas Churchhill</persName>, convicted at Chelmsford, June</hi> 30, 32
<hi rend="italic">nd Victoria, of stealing hay of his master, four months' imprisonment</hi>), I was present; the prisoner is the man. I have known him ever since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-340-18730505 t18730505-340-punishment-13"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>341.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">TIMOTHY LINAHAN</hi> (49)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18730505-341-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Unlawfully attempting maliciously to wound
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-341-offence-1 t18730505-name-172"/>James Hartnell</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-173" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-173" type="given" value="MORTON"/>MR. MORTON SMITH</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution. Upon the evidence of</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN ROWLAND GIBSON</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">the Surgeon of the Gaol,
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<interp inst="t18730505-341-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="unfitToPlead"/>the Jury found the prisoner insane, and unfit to plead.</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-341-18730505 t18730505-341-punishment-14"/>Ordered to be detained during Her Majesty's pleasure</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>342.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES GALVIN</hi> (17)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK EWEN</hi> (14)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18730505-342-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglary in the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730505-342-offence-1 t18730505-name-177"/>Daniel Hebditch</persName>, and stealing a quantity of wearing apparel, his property.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BAILEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GALVIN</hi>
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<interp inst="t18730505-342-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-342-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-342-18730505 t18730505-342-punishment-15"/>
<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-178" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-178" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-178" type="given" value="DE"/>MR. DE MICHELE</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730505-name-179" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730505-name-179" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-179" type="surname" value="CARPENTER"/>
<interp inst="t18730505-name-179" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE CARPENTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant</hi>). I was on duty on 17th April, at 4 o'clock in the morning, in Dudley Street, Soho—I passed No.85, and tried the door—I found it open, and the three boys in the act of coming out—they all said they had been sleeping there—I took them to the station—I searched the premises, and in the kitchen I found a basket full of pigeons, two hats, and a quantity of calico, packed up in a basket—I found a housewife in Ewen's pocket—I saw Bailey drop a key, which I found fitted the door of the house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ewen.</hi> Bailey gave me the buttons.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> The housewife contained buttons.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-181" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL HEBDITCH</persName> </hi>. I am the husband of the last witness, and live at 85, Dudley Street—I fastened up the house on 16th April at 10.30.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for Ewen.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-183" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY PARRY</persName> </hi>. I am superintendent of the News Boys' Home, 80, Gray's Inn Road—this lad came to the Home; it is a lodging-house, where we charge the lads 2
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<hi rend="italic">Ewen.</hi> I was asleep in the passage, and Bailey gave me the things.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 485). On the morning of 3rd April I was on duty in Chandos Street—I saw Dixon standing there, in front of the shop that was broken open—Savine was standing on the pavement, with another boy—I asked Dixon what he was doing there—he said he was waiting for his master, who was coming from the country—I asked him if he knew the other two, and he said "No"—I went round my beat, and came back in about twenty-five minutes, and I saw the three in conversation in front of the shop—they ran away—I could not swear to Savine, but I am quite clear as to Dixon.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-191" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HARE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 337). I was on duty in Lincoln's Inn Fields on the morning of 3rd April—about 5 o'clock I saw the two prisoners and another man, not in custody, pass along the west side of Lincoln's Inn Fields—I followed them, on account of their appearance and what they were carrying—as I got near to them, Dixon, who was walking in front, started and ran away—I walked quickly, and Savine, who was carrying a sack with this deed-box inside, and other articles, threw the sack down, and ran away also—the man who was not apprehended was carrying a rifle, with two coats folded round it—he threw that down as I came near him, kicked me in the knee, which stopped my running—I pursued them to Red Lion Square, where I lost them—I afterwards took the things to New Street Station—I was sent for on the morning of the 14th, when I saw the two prisoners amongst six or eight others, and immediately identified them—from what I found inside the sack I found where the things came from, and I went to Mr. Poole's place, and examined it—I found a constable in charge of the front door—the back door was broken open, and this instrument lying close by—it corresponded with the marks on the wood—the hasp and lock were broken off.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Dixon. Q.</hi> Did you see me carrying any thing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, you were walking in front, with your hands in front.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-192" type="given" value="HORACE"/>HORACE POOLE</persName> </hi>. I own these premises in Chandos Street—the shop and back parlour are mine; I let the top part—I left about 6 or 7 o'clock on 2nd April, and left my man in charge—when I came back I found it had been broken into—this property is mine, but the rifle belongs to Govern ment—I usually keep the rent-money in the box, but I had taken the gold out the day before—I know Dixon by his selling fusees and papers in the neighbourhood; that is all.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-193" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT HOARE</persName> </hi>. I was left in charge of these premises—I went out at 9 o'clock on 2nd April, and left the place all secure—I was woke up about 7.20 in the morning, and found they had been broken into.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Savine's Defence.</hi> I know nothing about it I was took up in the court for begging with this boy, and I was discharged.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-196" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN SPINKS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Spinks, a railway porter—I live with a man named John Ransom—on Saturday night, 26th April, I was in a public-house on Tower Hill, with him—I asked him if he was coming home; he said "Not yet"—I said "You had better come home, and have some food indoors, instead of spending your money here, "and he gave me 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to pay the rent—the prisoner was standing at the counter at the time—he said if I did not hold my tongue he would smack me across the jaw—I turned round and said "It won't pay you"—he laid hold of me by the wrist, and was going to
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-197" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WALES</persName> </hi>. I am a private in the Coldstream Guards—I was in this public-house on Tower Hill on the Saturday night; the woman came in and got talking to the man she was living with; they got to very high words indeed, and the landlord told her he should have to have her turned out if she did not keep order—she went away and came back in about an hour, using very bad language—the prisoner is in the Coldstreams—they had very high words, but I did not see him strike her—she ran at him and scratched his face, and he took hold of her and shoved her out of the door, but I am sure he did not have a knife in his hand—I saw the woman when she was outside—she was bleeding a little—the prisoner shoved the woman out—I could not say whether she fell down.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730505-name-198" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE"/>CHARLOTTE CARTER</persName> </hi>. I was in the public-house on the night of the 26th when the quarrelling was going on—I saw Mrs. Spinks and the prisoner there—she was using very bad language, and the prisoner said "If you don't hold your noise, I will hit you across the mouth"—she took her shawl off and abused the prisoner, and scratched him down the face—the man she lived with said "Throw her out, "and the prisoner took her by the shoulder and put her out—she came in again, and he put her out; she fell on the stones, and I picked her up; she was bleeding—there was no knife used at all—if the prisoner had had a knife I should have seen it—I was at the door when the struggle took place—he had no knife whatever.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman H R</hi> 17). I came up when this woman was bleeding, and took the prisoner into custody—he was drunk, and his belt was lying on the tap-room table—he had his coat off—I told him to put it on, and that he was charged with striking the woman—I found a knife in his pocket, with his name on—it was closed—he said he never struck the woman with a knife.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Statement before the Magistrate:</hi> "I was in the beer-house; the prosecutrix came in and got abusing the man. I told her to use better language, and she scratched my face. I caught hold of her arm to put her out, and she came in again. I put her out, and directly afterwards the constable came and charged me with stabbing her."</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 7, 1873.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Grove.</hi> </p>
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