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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, April 7th, 1873, and following days,</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-2" type="given" value="ANTHONY"/>ANTHONY CLEASBY</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Barons of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; The Hon. Sir
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<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN RICHARD QUAIN</hi> </persName>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-4" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DUKE</persName> </hi>, Bart.,
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-6" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P.,
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN</hi> </persName>, Esq., Sir
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-8" type="given" value="JAMES CLARKE"/>JAMES CLARKE LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Bart., M.P., and Sir
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<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANCIS WYATT TRUSCOTT</hi> </persName>, Knt., Aldermen of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-10" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Knt., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City (acting as Deputy-Recorder); and
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-11" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., LL.D, Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-12" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WHITE</persName> </hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-13" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK PERKINS</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-15" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER CROSLEY</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WATERLOW, MAYOR. SIXTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, April</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Deputy Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-17" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH FISHER</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a beer-house, No.4, High Street, Bow—on 5th March the prisoner came there; he had been there before—I was serving in the bar—he asked for a half-pint of 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. ale, which would be Id, and paid me with a shilling—I did not look at it—I put it in the till, and gave him change—there was no other money in the till when I put the shilling there—the prisoner sat down for some little time, drinking his ale—about three quarters of an hour afterwards I had to send out for something in a hurry, and I gave the shilling to my niece, Sarah Ash; she came back with it—I then found it was bad, and marked it—I kept it by me till the 18th, when I gave it to the constable—I had several times found bad money in my till after the prisoner had been there, but I never suspected him—on Saturday, 8th March, he came again, and asked for a pint of 4
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I served him; he paid me with a 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece—I said to him, "You were in on Wednesday"—he said "No; I don't think I have been in all the week"—I said "Yes, you were in, and you then gave me a bad shilling; I shall try this, and see if it is bad"—I tried it and it bent—I then said "I shall detain you," and I gave him in charge—he asked me not to give him in charge—he held out a half-crown, and said "Will you take for the bad money out of this half-crown, and let me go?"—I said "No"—he did not ask me to take the half-crown for the florin, but for the shilling—I sent for a policeman and gave him in charge, and gave the florin to the policeman, and the shilling I gave to the officer at the station on the Monday.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Had you not two bad shillings in your hand on the Satur
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I took a shilling from a woman, a companion of yours, on the Saturday before, and I took both the shillings to the station to show</p>
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<p>the officer on the Saturday—I did not examine the shilling you gave me at the time—I had no opportunity in the hurry of business.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-18" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES UNWIN</persName> </hi>. I live at No.3, Somerset Street, Old Ford, and am a labourer—on 5th March I was in the Half Moon public-house—I saw Mrs. Fisher serve the prisoner with a half-pint of 4
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> What had I with me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Two fowls in a basket—I saw you put the shilling on the counter.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-19" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH ASH</persName> </hi>. I am the niece of Mrs. Fisher—on 5th March she gave me a shilling—I took it to Mr. Cramp's oil shop, and gave it to Mr. Wolf—he gave it to Mr. Cramp, and he gave it back to me, and I took it back to my aunt.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-20" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT WOLF</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Goodrich, an oilman, at High Street, Bow, opposite Mrs. Fisher's—on 5th March Miss Ash came and gave me a shilling—I gave it to Mr. Cramp, the manager—I believed it to be bad—Mr. Cramp gave it back to her, and she left with it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-21" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CRAMP</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Goodrich—I saw Ash come in and give a shilling to Wolf—he gave it to me, and I returned it to her—it was bad.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-22" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMBS FIDGER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 114.) On 8th March I was called to Mrs. Fisher's and received the prisoner in custody, with this florin—I told him the charge—he said "I will come with you quietly"—Mrs. Fisher said at the station that he had been in on Wednesday the 5th, and had passed a bad shilling—he said "If I passed a bad shilling then why did you not tell me of it at the time?"—I received this shilling on the Monday, the 10th, from Mrs. Fisher—I found on the prisoner a good half-crown and 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-23" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to the Mint—this is a bad florin and a bad shilling.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner put in a written defence, stating that he took the florin of a lady to whom he sold some oranges, and that he did not know the shilling to be bad.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>—Receiving the same.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-27" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a fancy boxmaker, and occupy Nos.1, 2, and 3, Glover's Hall Court, in the Parish of St. Giles, Cripplegate Without—on the night of 11th March, at 8 o'clock, I locked up the premises—at 9 o'clock on the morning of the 12th I went to the premises—I found the area grating had been broken open, and the two counting-house doors—my cash-box and travellers' desk were broken open, and a box of cigars taken away—they had been safe in my cupboard over night—the cellar grating was safe the previous night—the cigars are here—I saw them at the Bow Lane Station at 9 o'clock.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The cash-box was taken out of the cupboard underneath the safe—the cupboard was not locked; there was no money in it—I have not used the cash-box for the last twelve months—it was locked—there was nothing in it except some cheques returned from the bank—there was nothing in the travellers' desk, only a few papers of no value—the box of</p>
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<p>cigars was taken away altogether—T have had them in my place three years, and the box I made myself to put them in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-28" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PINE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>, 129.) On the morning of 12th March, about 2 o'clock, I was on duty in Glover's Hall Court, by the prosecutor's house—I noticed a light over the fanlight—I listened at the door, and heard someone whispering in the house—I called the attention of Allison, Police Constable 619, who lives on the premises at No.1—he let me in at No.3—I went to the first floor—I found Edwards in the first floor front room—I told him he would have to come to the station with me for being on the premises—he fumbled about, and he threw this piece of wedge behind him—I searched him, and found a bunch of eight keys; they are ordinary keys—Allison had Mann in custody—I searched Mann at the station-house, and found on him 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., a cigar-holder, and some matches—he said nothing—I asked where he lived; he refused to give any address—after the prisoners were taken to the station I went back to the premises and there found these crowbars, one on the table in the inner office, and one in the outer office by the desk, a piece of composite candle on the inner table, and this broken piece of wood; it is part of the beading of the inner counting-house door, which had been forced—I found this cash-box in the counting-house, it had been broken open, and this box of cigars was on the top of the cash-box, on the table of the counting-house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> They were close to the cupboard—it is a small counting-house—the entry was made by the area grating—that was not broken open about 1.40, because I tried it—it was about 1.55 when I knocked at No.1—I knew Allison was living there—I did not look at the grating then; I had not passed it—Mann did not say that he was passing the grating, found it open, and went in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-29" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HERNY ALLISON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 619). I live at 1, Glover's Hall Court—the premises belong to Mr. George Smith, and also the next two houses—on the morning of 12th March, about 2 o'clock, I was disturbed by Pyne; I went down stairs and saw the two prisoners in the inner counting-house, on the ground-floor—I said "What on earth are you doing here?"—I called my wife and let Pyne in; the prisoners passed me by in a second and ran up stairs; I followed—Edwards opened the first-floor window, and was in the act of jumping out when I caught him by the back of the neck and pulled him on to the floor—Pyne took them then—I searched Edwards at the station, and found 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., a watch, and Albert chain—I was not able to find out where he lived.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was called up by Pyne; I was in bed—it was about 2 o'clock—I did not dress at all—I ran down in a hurry—my wife came down a few minutes after—I have free access from one house to the other—no one lives in No.2—I had been over the house at 10.30—I did not hear Mann say that while he was passing he saw the window open and went in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-30" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY RANDALL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). On the morning of 12th March, about 6 o'clock, I went to the premises of Mr. Smith—I found a grating had been forced up, and also two doors in the counting-house—I compared the marks on the sill of the area-grating with the implements, and they corresponded exactly.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Edwards' Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "That piece of wood is what we use in our trade, what the police calls a wedge."</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-31" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WATTS</persName> </hi>. I am Edwards's father; his real name is Watts—he was living with a person of that name and has taken it—he is a zinc-worker—</p>
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<p>he has been employed by me up to January—I found all right then, but latterly he got acquainted with a very bad lot and became beyond my control—he was in regular employment up to January, since then he has been jobbing about for himself—we had a disagreement and this has been the result—I live at 18, Central Street, Old Street.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">He received a good character.—
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<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I wanted to know whether I was correct; I wanted
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">In this case the Jury, after consulting an hour and a half, being unable to agree, they were discharged without giving any verdict, and the can was afterwards tried in the Third Court on Wednesday.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, April</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Deputy Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARCUS FRIEDMAN</hi> (32)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BRINDLET</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence. The prosecutor in this case was a half'-brother of the defendant, both being foreigners. After the prosecutor's evidence was partly heard</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">after consulting with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BRINDLEY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">withdrew from the Prosecution with the sanction of The Court.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">STEPHEN HOLMAN</hi> (26)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLADE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GLYN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-53" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MCDIAMID</persName> </hi>. I am employed in the Post Office Savings' Bank—I produce a savings' bank deposit-book of Stephen Holman, Gibson's Hill, Norwood—the number of the book is 189, and was issued from the Crown Hill office, Norwood—the first deposit was made on 27th December, 1865, of 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there have been subsequent deposits at the Crown Hill office—there are sums withdrawn—the first withdrawal was made at Chester—it bears the Chester stamp—the withdrawals were by a person at Chester—the first was on June 8th, 1872, and the second on November 2nd, 1872—one deposit was made at Chester on 18th July, 1871, of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the book was balanced in December, 1872—the balance for 1873 is 89
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to the credit of the depositor—if a depositor wanted to withdraw money he would first go to a postmaster, and get a notice of withdrawal—he must fill that up with the number of his book, he must state the amount which he wishes to withdraw, the office at which he wishes to be paid; he must affix his signature, and give his address—that form would be sent to the chief office, the signature would be compared, and the account examined with the ledger; a warrant would then be sent to the address of the sender, and a letter of advice to the post-office where he wished to be paid—the depositor's signature would be required to the warrant when it is presented for payment;</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., payable at Norwood, S.E.—the deposit-book Dumber is 189, Norwood, Crown Hill, and the signature is Stephen Holman, Westow Street, Upper Norwood—I made out this warrant for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and it was forwarded to the address stated, and a letter of advice was sent to the Crown Hill office at the same time—this warrant was returned to the Savings' Bank department, with the receipt signed, and stamped as paid with the stamp of the office—I received this notice of withdrawal on 22nd January—it is dated the 21st, for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., payable at the Norwood office to Stephen Holman, and the same address—the warrant and advice were made out, and forwarded—I received the warrant back, stamped as paid—on 4th February this notice of withdrawal came into my hands, dated the 3rd, for 79
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., with interest to close the account—I referred to the ledger, and found 79
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to the account of Stephen Holman, and interest for the year 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I made out a warrant for that sum to the Norwood office, and sent it—it was received back at our office on the 6th, stamped as paid on the 5th—the deposit account of Holman was closed, and the book was returned to the office.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-54" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Henry Samuel Phillips, and keep the post-office at Crown Hill, Norwood—on 15th January I received this warrant for the payment of 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the prisoner—he signed it "Stephen Holman," in my presence—he also produced this deposit-book, "189, Crown Hill"—I paid him the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., entered it in the book, and stamped it as it is now; I then returned it to the prisoner—on 5th February he came to the office again—he then presented the warrant for 79
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and signed "Stephen Holman" at the foot—I paid him the money, chiefly in notes—I stamped the notice—that closed the account—I kept the book, and returned it to the head office, and also the warrants—these notes are stamped with the Crown Hill post-mark, and dated 5th February—they were given to the prisoner, and formed a portion of the 79
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The first application was on 15th January, and there was no further application until 5th February—the prisoner signed the receipt in my presence—he did not ask me where to sign it—I handed him a pen, and he signed it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-55" type="given" value="MARIA"/>MARIA SCOTT</persName> </hi>. I am employed in the post-office at Westow Hill post-office, Norwood—on 13th January the prisoner came there, and asked for a notice of withdrawal—I gave him a printed form—he said he was no scholar, and asked me to show him how to fill up the form—I filled it up for him—it was for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., payable at Norwood, S.E.—he signed his name, "Stephen Holman, Westow Street, Upper Norwood"—he then took it away with him—he produced this deposit-book, "No.189, Crown Hill, Stephen Holman, Gibson's Hill, Norwood, S."—on 21st January I saw the prisoner again—he came and asked for a notice of withdrawal as before—I filled up the form, and he signed his name the same as before—I returned the book to him with the form—the warrant was afterwards presented by the prisoner, and I paid it—he signed the receipt in my presence—the date of the with
<lb/>drawal is the 22nd, and the date of payment the 24th January—he came again on 3rd February—he said he wished to take the whole of the amount, and close the account—I filled up the notice of withdrawal as before; it was</p>
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<p>for 79
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., with interest to close account—he again signed his name and address, and I gave him back the deposit-book.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I made no inquiries of him; I treated the production of the book as a sufficient voucher, and after comparing the signature of the warrant to the signature in the book.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-56" type="given" value="GEORGE JOHN EYTON"/>GEORGE JOHN EYTON MARSH</persName> </hi>. I am postmaster at the Westow Hill office, Norwood—the prisoner brought this warrant to the office for 79
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and he also brought this deposit book, No.189—I looked at our advices and found I had not such a warrant to pay, and I looked at the advice and found it was drawn at Norwood Crown Hill office—I gave the prisoner the warrant back and the book, and directed him to the Crown Hill office, to obtain the money—he went away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner never came and asked me whether he had any money in the savings' bank, and what amount—he did not show me the warrant and ask me whether it was right—I don't know that the prisoner is a depositor—I knew he lived about the neighbourhood—I knew him by sight, but I did not know where he lived—I know his brother Daniel is a depositor in the savings' bank.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-57" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN HOLMAN</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer—in 1865 I lived at Gibson's Hill, Norwood—I left there in 1871 and went to Chester—while I was living at Gibson's Hill I made deposits at the Post Office Savings' Bank at Crown Hill—the first deposit was in 1865 of 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and when I got down to Chester I made a deposit of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. there—I made two withdrawals at Chester in 1872, and in December, 1872, I sent my book up to the head office in London to be made up—at that time there was a sum of about 89
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd in my book—I did not receive my book back again, and I made some communication to the Post-office authorities—I know nothing of this Stephen Holman—I never authorised anybody to draw out any sums from my account—I did not know they had been drawn out until I communicated with the Post
<lb/>office authorities—this is my book, "189."</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-58" type="given" value="CHARLES JAMBS"/>CHARLES JAMBS STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I am travelling officer of the Missing Letter department of the General Post Office—on 2nd February last I received a notice from Stephen Holman, of Chester, respecting a deposit book which was missing—I proceeded to make inquiries on the subject, in company with Smee—from information I received I went to Wood's Cottages, New Town, Norwood, with Smee, about 10 o'clock at night—we found the prisoner there, and he was taken to the Westow Hill Post-office by Smee—I followed him there—when we were there I told him I was an officer attached to the General Post Office, and asked him his name and where he lived—he said "Stephen Holman, 1, Paddock Gardens, Westow Street, Norwood"—I produced this deposit book, "189, "and asked him if it was his; he said "Yes"—I asked him if that was his signature at the beginning of the book, and he said "Yes"—I then produced the three notices of withdrawal, and said "Are these notices yours? are they in your handwriting?" he said "Yes"—I showed him the three warrants, and said "Is that your signature at the foot of the warrants?" he said "Yes"—I said "Have you received the money?" he said "Yes"—I asked him when he made his first deposit and where—he said "About five years ago, at this office, "meaning the Westow Hill office—seeing that the whole of the deposits bad been made at the Crown Hill office, I gave the prisoner into custody for forging and uttering the warrants—I said to him "You have continued to make deposits ever since at this office I"—he said "Yes, "and then directly "No,"</p>
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<p>A friend of mine has made them for me, John Eldridge, waiter at the Hope and Anchor public-house, Acre Lane, Brixton."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw the prisoner at No.3, Wood's Cottages—I did not know he lived there—he gave a different address after—I don't know whether his uncle or any of his friends are there—it is a private house—he lives in company with seven or eight persons there—I told him who I was at the Westow office, before I put the questions to him—he gave me the name that he wrote in his original deposit book—he gave the name of Stephen Holman, 1, Paddock Gardens, and I found that his correct name and address—he said he made the first deposit about five years ago—I am quite sure he did not say seven or eight years ago—I was examined before the Magistrate, and this is my signature—I said there that he made it about seven years ago—I asked him at what office he had made the deposits, and he said "This office, "that was Westow Hill—that book is on the Grown Hill office—he said the money was his, in answer to the question I put to him; that he had withdrawn it, and could account for it—Eldridge, the person to whom he alluded, was called before the Magistrate and examined—I heard him give a portion of his evidence.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-59" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMEE</persName> </hi>. I am a police constable attached to the Post Office—on 28th February I accompanied Mr. Stevens to Norwood, where we found the prisoner in the New Town, that is a mile away from the receiving house—when we got him to the Westow Hill office, after Mr. Stevens had ques
<lb/>tioned him, I said "Did you ever live at Gibson's
<hi rend="largeCaps">HUM</hi>" he said "No"—I searched him, and in his waistcoat pocket I found a key—I asked him what key it was, and he said it was the key of his box—I said "Where do You live?" he said "No.1, Paddock Gardens, Westow Street"—I said "Have you any money in that box I" he said "No; I have spent it all"—I after
<lb/>wards went there and unlocked the box, which was in the bedroom on the first floor, pointed out to me by the prisoner's mother as his room—I found, rolled up in this piece of paper, seven 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Bank of England notes, each of them bearing the Crown Hill office stamp of 3rd February—I found 13 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers in the prisoner's pockets.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not tell the prisoner I was an officer—he was questioned by Mr. Stevens—I never intimated to him that there had been a mistake in the deposits, and that it was not his book—I took the key from his pocket, aid he said "It if the key of my box"—that was where I found the money.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-60" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TYRELL</persName> </hi>. I am a letter carrier at Norwood—Westow Street is in my delivery—in the early part of this year a Post Office Savings' Bank book came into my hands for delivery, addressed to "S. Holman, Upper Norwood"—I delivered it to the prisoner at Paddock Gardens, as the only S. Holman I knew—I don't remember that I have delivered any letters to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I knew Holman well—I knew he was living there with his mother and one or two brothers—I believe I delivered the book to him personally—I did not know that he was a depositor in the Post Office Savings' Bank, nor that his brothers were—I don't remember seeing his mother afterwards on the subject of this book.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> He is a bricklayer's labourer—I don't know whether he has been doing any work the last few months.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-61" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ELDRIDGE</persName> </hi>. I am head waiter at the Hope and Anchor, Acre Lane, Brixton—I have been there fifteen months—before that I was at Honfleur</p>
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<lb/>was head waiter there—the prisoner was potman there—that was five or six years ago—while we were there I made a deposit in the Westow Hill post-office for him—I deposited a shilling—he had the book when the deposit was made, and he gave it to me—I lost it—I had it about a twelvemonth—I did not make any other deposit except that shilling—I never gave him the book for making any deposits—I don't know whether he made any farther deposits; he did not on that book, at any rate—he never showed me the book for the Crown Hill office—I did not know that he had this money, the 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd—he knew my position, and knew that I was a waiter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My wages were uncertain—you can give me a shilling or half-a-crown, which you please—I made more than 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—I was travelling in France; not with the prisoner—I have been to the Channel Islands with him; we were there for about six months—I was a friend of he prisoner's, and am at the present time, I believe—the deposit Was made by my suggestion—I said at the time, "You give me the book, I will keep it, and you see how it will increase"—I kept the book for a time, and I told him I would make deposits in his favour—I afterwards told him that I had made deposits—I had not done so—I told him that three times—I kept the book in my possession until I lost it—the deposit was made at Westow Street, Upper Norwood—the prisoner lives at No.1, Paddock Gardens—I know in whose employ he has been, but I almost forget—I know one, a builder, of the name of Bowyer—he was a respectable man, a master builder—I never heard anything against the prisoner's character—I believe that both his brothers are depositors in the Post Office Savings' Bank—they all lived in the same neighbourhood, and have done for a considerable time, and all deposited in the same bank.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I know the brothers deposited there before—I am connected with them—I did not keep their books—they have told me when they have deposited—I told the prisoner five or six years ago that I would advance money for him—I did it to bring him to save for himself—I told him what I was going to deposit—I did not tell him what I had deposited afterwards, and he did not ask me—I did not take any receipt from him, or tell him how much I had advanced-1 dare say it was two years ago that I told him I had advanced money—I lost his book long before that—I did not tell him how I could deposit without producing the book—I did not apply for another book—I don't know that he has been in gaol for three months; not that I am aware of—I never heard anything against his character—I have not heard of his being in gaol—I have been in my present place fifteen months—the prisoner has not been in prison during the last twelve months to my knowledge—I don't remember his being in custody at all—I say he has always bad a good character—I never heard anything against him, or that he was charged with anything.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, April</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before
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<hi rend="italic">to stealing the jackets.</hi></rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-275-18730407 t18730407-275-punishment-11"/>One Month in Newgate</rs>, and
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-275-18730407 t18730407-275-punishment-12"/>Four Years' in a Reformatory</rs>.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GLYN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-66" type="given" value="SIMON"/>SIMON ISAACS</persName> </hi>. I am a furrier, of No.14, White Street, Hounsditch—on 12th March, about 1 o'clock in the afternoon, the prisoner Gray came in and asked me if I would buy some sealskin jackets—I said "Yes; where are they?"—he said "What will you give me for them?"—I said "I can
<lb/>not tell till I see them"—he said "Another boy outside has got them"—I went and fetched Everson, who had a parcel on his head tied up—I asked him how he got them—he said that a boy in Whitechapel gave them to him to sell—I cut open the parcel and found the jackets, and an order book outside—I said that I would not buy them, and sent my son for a constable—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is one of the jackets I took from him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-67" type="surname" value="EVANS"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-67" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN EVANS</persName> </hi>. I am a mantle maker, of No.10, King's Place, Commercial Road East—Everson has been in my employ about nine weeks—on 12th March, between 9 and 10 o'clock a.m., I packed a parcel of nine sealskin jackets and gave them to him, and while my back was turned to call my daughter, he stole two 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. packets of coppers—he was to take the jackets to 10, Watling Street; he had to take them every day to the same place—he generally came back from there about 11.30—this is one of the jackets I gave him; I was allowed to take the other eight.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-68" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH DOROTHY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>, 923) I was called, and Mr. Isaacs gave the prisoners into my custody—I asked Everson where he got the jackets—he said that a boy in Whitechapel Road gave them to him to sell—I asked the boy's name; he said he did not know—I found on Everson 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver, and on Gray an empty purse—they both gave their correct addresses.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GRAY</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-275-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD FRENCH</hi> (21)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730407-276-offence-1 t18730407-name-70"/>Denis Horgan</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARMSWORTH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-71" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DAVIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 2nd March I was in the neighbour
<lb/>hood of Petticoat Lane about 12.30, and saw the prisoner and two others—I stood at one side of a barrow where they were selling oranges, and saw the prisoner unbutton the prosecutor's coat, and take out his watch and get it off the swivel—one of the others stopped the gentleman—I pursued the prisoner and stopped him in Houndsditch—I am sure he is the person—he gave me an address which I could not find.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I took him about 500 yards off—several people were about.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-72" type="surname" value="HORGAN"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-72" type="given" value="DENNIS"/>DENNIS HORGAN</persName> </hi>. I am a tailor—I was in Petticoat Lane—I don't know the day of the month—I went up to a stall to buy 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of oranges—I saw the prisoner there—he put his hand in my pocket and took out my watch—I took him by the collar and called the police—he got away, but was taken afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I unbuttoned my coat, and before I could button it again he got my watch—another man knocked me down—there was a great crowd round the barrow.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-276-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been convicted at Clerkenwell in April Mil, to which he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HUGH WEIGHTMAN</hi> (57)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18730407-277-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing one printed book, the pro
<lb/>perty of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730407-277-offence-1 t18730407-name-74"/>William Forsyth</persName> and others.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-75" type="given" value="OSBORNE"/>OSBORNE TURNER</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Reeves & Turner, of 100, Chancery Lane, second-hand booksellers—I have known the prisoner one or two years—he has been in the habit of coming to my shop occasion
<lb/>ally—I bought this book of him, it is hew and uncut—here is the entry in my book (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it is in my own writing, but was not made at the time—it is the second volume of "Sickel's American Reports"—I gave him 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it—it Was previous to 17th October; my entry is dated the 17th—I would not have bought an odd volume of a stranger—my boy says that he was in the shop at the time—there were no labels pasted in it when I bought it—this is my label pasted in the corner—I have no doubt that was put in when it was sent to the Law Society to see whether they would buy it—I see a mark in the inside of the cover, there appears to have been a label there—the book was put on the shelf in the ordinary way, for sale—the Librarian of Gray's Inn called there and said something to me, in cones
<lb/>quence of which I sent it to Stevens & Sons—I do not know the date, but it must have been before the 11th December—the prisoner called on me between the 11th and 21st December, and said he had received a letter from the people down the street—I knew that he meant Stevens and Sons—he was very indignant, and said that I had no business to send the book to them, how could he tell he had sold it to me without he saw it—he had asked me where it was, and I told him it had gone back—I mentioned the name of it, the second volume of "Sickel's Reports."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> All I can say is that the book I bought was bought some time before 17th October, and I am only guided to that fact by the entry in this book—I knew the prisoner to be a reviewer and an author—it is not an uncommon thing for leading men when they have done with books to sell them—during the time I have known the prisoner he has been in the habit of buying and selling books at our place—I am a very small book buyer in the law department—I was here in another case last Session—I bought about thirty books, all odd volumes (
<hi rend="italic">See</hi> "Reg
<hi rend="italic">v</hi> Westall, "p.287)—I have a branch business in the Strand, managed by my partner; they buy odd volumes there also—I did not notice that there had been a book label inside at the time I bought the book—I have had a good many dealings in the six months since October—the conversation between me and the prisoner was in December, four months ago—it does not appear in writing from whom I bought this odd volume; I do not keep any book of that kind—in point of fact, save and except a question of memory, I have nothing to refer to as to whom I bought the book of—I took no memorandum of the conversation when the prisoner called on me—I think my boy was there—the prisoner was very indignant, but he did not deny selling it to me—he did not mention Stevens & Sons, I did; he may have said "I have received an extraordinary letter from Messrs. Stevens," I don't know—he did not say what had become of it; he did not produce any letter—I have no doubt he asked me what the name of the book was; I do not remember what he said—he did not say that he had mislaid the letter, and wanted to know what the name of the book was—he said that he had called about a letter he had received from Stevens & Sons, and asked me what the name of the book was—he had not the letter in his hand—I told him that the name was "Sickel's Reports, "2nd volume—it was then that he said to me "Where is the book 1"—I said that I had returned it—he said "You</p>
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<p>should not have gent it back, "but he did not add "while the matter was under enquiry"—I swear that, because it is not likely, as that would have been confessing that he stole the book—he said "Have you ascertained that I sold you any such book?"and I said "Yes, to the best of my belief I bought it of you"—he did not say "Then you are wrong in your belief;" he avoided an answer; if he had denied it I would have gone down to the Benchers of the Temple—I don't recollect what answer he made—I think he said something about going to Stevens & Sons—I don't remember what I said to that—I said nothing about writing—I don't remember what I did say—I knew that the prisoner was a barrister and an author
<lb/>after I had sent to Stevens & Sons I looked at the Law List, and found that he had chambers at No.1, Mitre Court—I went there and found that he had chambers there, and that his letters were left there—if I remember right, the prisoner said before the Magistrate that he would not trouble his friends to bail him—I heard him say, that he could never mix in the society he had been formerly used to till this horrible charge had been cleared away from him—I make no entry at the time I buy a book.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Some gentleman, I think, happened to be in the shop who knew the prisoner, and that is how I first knew his name—I chatted with him just as you might with a bookseller—I have been in business twenty
<lb/>four yean—I have not the remotest doubt that I purchased the book of Mr. Weightman—I never bought any similar book of him—I gave evidence at the Police Court; the prisoner did not ask me any questions—on 17th October the book was entered by name, so that I know I had it in stock at that time—I am not able to say within what time before that I had pur
<lb/>chased it, it might be a week or a month.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I suppose you buy law books second-hand all day if people come to sell them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and when they accumulate I put them down in stock—I do not mean that months would elapse before I put them in stock—I do not keep a stock-book of second hand law books—it is very convenient to go to a book-stall and by an odd volume to complete sets; the first volume of the "Weekly Repoter" is worth as much as all the rest, and there are twenty-five volumes—I should buy the first volume if I had a chance.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-76" type="surname" value="JOHNSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-76" type="given" value="GEORGE HENRY"/>GEORGE HENRY JOHNSON</persName> </hi>. I am in Reeves & Turner's service—the pri
<lb/>soner came there frequently; I did not know him by name at first, but afterwards I knew him as Mr. Weightman—this second volume of "Sickel's Reports" has Reeves & Turner's label in the corner—I first saw it in Mr. Turner's hands on the day it was published; the prisoner and another gentleman were in the shop; I did not pay any attention to what passed, but the prisoner was trying to sell it, and Mr. Turner purchased it—I do not remember hearing the price named—the prisoner then went out—Mr. Turner took the book to the back of the shop, and I saw it on the table—I don't know that I did anything with it that day, but next day I took it up and looked at it—I don't know how long it remained there, but I remember it going to the Law Society—labels are sometimes put in by me, and sometimes by Mr. Turner—this writing on the back, "Sickel's Reports," is Mr. Turner's—I remember it going to the Law Institution and being returned—I remember the prisoner coming to the shop some day before Christmas—(at that time I had delivered it to Stevens & Sons, on 10th December, I believe, but I am not certain; from what Mr. Turner told me)—I did not hear him say anything, he was at the back of the shop—Mr.</p>
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<p>Turner was having his dinner, therefore it was between 1 o'clock and half-past.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> When I first saw the book it was in Mr. Turner's hand—two people were in the shop—I can't say who the other was—"Sickel's Reports" was written on it at the time the catalogue was made, probably in November—we don't have a catalogue every month—there is nothing cer
<lb/>tain to tell me when "Sickel's Reports" was written on it—there is a large shop, and at the back Mr. Turner sits when he is haying his meals—I was sitting in the front shop when I saw the book in Mr. Turner's hands, and Mr. Turner was standing at the back of the table in the front shop, at the side of the window from Chancery Lane—I do all the business except pur
<lb/>chases—I attend to the customers, and if Mr. Turner is busy it is my duty to attend to the business—since this a great many people have been in the shop, buying and selling.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-77" type="given" value="JOHN ARTHUR"/>JOHN ARTHUR WARWICK</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Stevens & Sons, Law booksellers, of Chancery Lane—we import three copies of "Sickel's Reports" from America, one for Gray's Inn, one for Lincoln's Inn, and one for the Inner Temple—they come Over in sheets—the second volume arrived on October 8th, and the Gray's Inn copy was sent in sheets the same day; the other two copies were sent to Kelly's to be bound, and some of our adver
<lb/>tisements were sent with them to put into the interior—when they were returned it was the duty of some person at Stevens's to put in a label, and insert a book-plate for the Inner Temple—on the books being returned by the binder they would be packed up in the ordinary way for delivery, and the porters would take them—on 7th December our account was sent in to the Inner Temple, and we charged-for the second volume of "Sickel's Reports; "enquiries were made about it, and in a few days afterwards the book was brought to me by Johnson from Mr. Turner's—the first page appears as if there had been a book-plate—at the corner here is a label of Reeves & Turner, a larger one—it does not appear as if there had been another label, that would not be visible under the larger one—in this bill (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) "Sickel's Reports" is charged on October 8th as delivered at the library—it would take two or three days to bind.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The sheets arrive by book post; the invoice would come by letter post—when the books arrived they would be unpacked—I should see that they agree with the invoice, and send them to the library—I then make an entry in the arrival-book, which is here—the entry in the porters' delivery-book will show on what day the book was delivered at the Inner Temple Library—the porter keeps the book, he is here and so is the book—he delivered a parcel there—I have nothing to show that the second volume of "Sickel's Reports" was delivered at the Inner Temple Library.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I am able to say that they were actually received on the 8th—the porter Thorpe's book would contain the parcels sent out for delivery—in the ordinary course of things, the books would be sent out as soon as they came back from the binder's.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-78" type="surname" value="MONK"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-78" type="given" value="JOHN WILLIAM"/>JOHN WILLIAM MONK</persName> </hi>. In October last I was warehouseman to Stevens & Sons—I remember the three volumes of "Sickel's Reports" coming from America; two of them were sent to Kelly & Co. to be bound, which would take about four days—I have got the binders' book, showing that they went to Kelly's.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-79" type="surname" value="KELLY"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-79" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY KELLY</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Kelly & Son, of Water Lane, bookbinders—we bind for Stevens & Sons, and they supply us with</p>
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<p>advertisements—we bound these two books for them at the same time which took two or three days, and then they would be sent back in the ordinary course—I speak to them by marks made by our own workpeople—I have got the women here who made the marks in them in October.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The books were ordered to be made up in this way; it is the ordinary way—we do not write anything on them, we simply put them in boards.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-80" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-80" type="surname" value="HIDE"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-80" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE"/>CHARLOTTE HIDE</persName> </hi>. I collate for Messrs. Kelly & Sons, bookbinders—I collated these two books before they were bound—I have no marks in them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-81" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-81" type="surname" value="NICHOLSON"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-81" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN NICHOLSON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant librarian to the Society of Lincoln's Inn—on 12th October I received the second volume of "Sickel's Reports, "and have got an entry in my own book, made at that time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The students and barristers who use the library are often the same gentlemen day after day—some gentlemen come in ever; day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-82" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-82" type="surname" value="THORPE"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-82" type="given" value="THOMAS JOHN"/>THOMAS JOHN THORPE</persName> </hi>. I was in the service of Messrs. Stevens & Sons in October last—I go out to deliver books in the Temple district, and deliver the ordinary weekly publications—I also delivered a book, it was a parcel wrapped up in paper—I either left it on the sub-librarian's table, or with either of the librarians, in the library; at this distance of time I cannot remember which—in the ordinary course, if I did not see the librarian or the sub-librarian, I should put it on the sub-librarian's table—I delivered it about 11 o'clock, and have an entry of the delivery in my book—I do not enter the names of the books in it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The entry is, "Inner Temple Library"—that is all.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How do you, then, recollect that there was a book in addition to the weekly Publications?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Because I enter the usual weekly publica
<lb/>tions "Temple publications," and then I enter "Inner Temple Library," which means that there was a parcel besides.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-83" type="given" value="JOHN EDWARD"/>JOHN EDWARD MARTIN</persName> </hi>. I am librarian to the Honourable Society of the Middle Temple—in October last Mr. Forsyth was the treasurer—in the ordinary course the books from Messrs. Stevens & Sons would be collated and stamped, and put on the shelves—I was away, and did not return till 21st October—Mr. Pickering, the sub-librarian, would be there—I have seen the mode in which books are delivered from Stevens & Sons; if it is a law book it is immediately collated and stamped—on 7th December Mr. Pickering received the bill produced, from Messrs. Stevens & Sons for the deliveries up to that date, and called my attention to the entry in it of the 2nd Vol. of "Sickel's Reports"—I then went to the place where it would be kept, and it was not in the library—it is the rule that members attending there shall sign their names when they go in or when they go out—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the attendance-book—it shows that the prisoner was at the library on the 5th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th of October, and from that date his signature does not appear again till November 4th—I have looked through, and have not been able to find it—he was there on 7th December, and not afterwards—this letter, dated 17th December, is in the prisoner's writing—members of the Inn who use the library bring in their hats, coats, and bags; there is no restriction on what they bring in or what they take out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Whether a gentleman coming from his chambers would walk to the library with his hat on is a matter of opinion—the signature
<lb/>book stands almost opposite the door; nobody stands there to see whether</p>
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<p>the members sign, and two-thirds of them do not sign—I have known the prisoner as a constant attendant at the library for two or three years—some gentlemen are there almost daily—the book, if delivered, would be given to the first of the officers who the porter met—there is no one here who swears that he received this identical book.</p>
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<persName id="t18730407-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-84" type="surname" value="PICKERING"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-84" type="given" value="JOHN EDWARD LATTEN"/>JOHN EDWARD LATTEN PICKERING</persName> </hi>. I am sub-librarian at the Inner Temple—Mr. Martin was absent in October, up to the 21st—I was there the whole of October—on 7th December I received this invoice, and pro
<lb/>ceeded to examine it with the books which had been delivered; I found that they were all right, with the exception of "Sickel's Reports"—I find by my own writing that the "Maritime Oases" were delivered on October 11th, and the "Central Criminal Court Sessions Papers" on October 14th—none are entered on the 12th—here is no entry of the 2nd Vol. of "Sickel's Reports"—that is the only book missing—there were workmen employed at the library during October.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> If the 2nd Vol of "Sickel's Reports" had been deli
<lb/>vered on 12th October would it appear in this book?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; there would be an entry, "12th October, 2nd Vol.'Sickel's Reports, '" if it came to my hands, and there is no such entry—Stevens & Sons would put the Arms of the Temple in it—that is the rule.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When I opened the parcel I should collate it and stamp it—having found the book perfect it was my duty to put a red stamp on it—from the fact of their being no entry and no stamp, I can say that I never received it—I am sometimes a long way from the table; it is a long series of rooms—there is no knocking, anybody can come into the library and deliver things—anybody can come in and walk up stain, right into the library.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-85" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MONK</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to the solicitor for the prosecution—I served a copy of this notice (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) on the prisoner in Newgate, on 2nd April.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-86" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Stevens and Sons, of 119, Chancery Lane—we import "Sickel's Reports" from America—we only import three copies for the three libraries of Gray's Inn, Lincoln's Inn, and the Inner Temple—my attention was called to the fact that the Inner Temple copy was missing—I received information, and it was afterwards brought to me—in the ordinary course our label would be in it—I see a mark here where there appears to have been a book-plate—when I get the information I wrote, on 10th December, to the prisoner, and kept a copy in my own writing—that was sent by a messenger, who is here, to the prisoner, at 1, Mitre Court—I received no answer—I then sent another copy of the letter, with the additional words "Your immediate answer will oblige"—that was sent by a porter named Friend, in the ordinary way, and I after
<lb/>wards got this reply, dated 17th December, from the prisoner—after that I wrote another letter on the 18th, this is a copy of it on the back—(
<hi rend="italic">Letters read:</hi> "119, Chancery Lane, Dec.10th, 1872. Sir,—Will you kindly inform us whence you obtained the second volume of 'Sickel's (American) Reports' which you sold to Messrs. Reeves and Turner. Your obedient servants, Stevens and Sons. To Hugh Weightman, Esq., 1, Mitre Court."
<hi rend="italic">Across this was written</hi>, "Sent a copy of this (dated Dec.10) December 12th, adding the words 'Your immediate answer will oblige, 'and left it with Mr. Phillips, 1, Mitre Court."—"1, Mitre Court, Temple, 17th Dec., 1872. Gentlemen.—I received a communication from your firm on Thursday last,</p>
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<p>requesting to be informed how I came possessed of a copy of some American Reports, which you allege were sold by me to Messrs. Reeves & Turner. As you did not state the object of your inquiry, nor yet how you were connected with the Reports, whether as publishers, proprietors, or otherwise, I could not recognise your right to interrogate me. Upon reflection, and as a matter of courtesy, I think it but right to assure you that I have a complete answer to the charge which you appear to insinuate.(
<hi rend="italic">Signed</hi>) Hugh Weightman."—"Dec.18. Sir,—We beg to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of 17th instant. As we have every reason to believe that the volume of Reports in question was supplied by us and delivered by our porter to a customer, we shall feel obliged if you will at once favour us with a reply to our letter of the 10th instant Your obedient servants, Stevens & Sons. H. Weightman, Esq.") I received no reply to the letter of the 18th.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DOUTHWAITE</persName> </hi>. I am librarian of Gray's Inn—in October last I received a copy of "Sickel's Reports" in sheets, and got them bound in my own way—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the book—I afterwards heard something about a copy being missed, and saw a copy in Reeves and Turner's shop.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate: "I reserve my defence—I do not desire to call any witnesses.</hi>"</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no evidence that the book was delivered at the library, and became the property of the Benchers of the Inner Temple; a parcel of some description was delivered, but what it contained there was no evidence to show, and that if it had ever been received it would appear in the books.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered that as the other two books were already invoiced at the respective libraries, and as the porter delivered a parcel con
<lb/>taining a book at the Inner Temple Library on the</hi> 12
<hi rend="italic">th, no other book being delivered there that day, there was evidence from which (he Jury might infer that the parcel contained the book in question. The prisoner received an excel
<lb/>lent character.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-277-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his character.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM TONGE</hi> (19)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18730407-278-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing one-purse, one key, one receipt label, and 1
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730407-278-offence-1 t18730407-name-89"/>Henry Fry</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. J.F.B. FIRTH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SIMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-90" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FRY</persName> </hi>. On Saturday evening, 22nd March, I was in Bridge Street, Blackfriars, about 8 o'clock—I had my purse in my hand, containing about 22
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—there was a half-sovereign and silver—the prisoner snatched it, and I followed him up Bride Lane and into the Bell public-house, where I was thrown down and could not follow him any more—this key (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) was in my purse.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was looking in my purse for my return ticket—I had only had two glasses of beer.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-91" type="surname" value="EDNEY"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-91" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM EDNEY</persName> </hi>. I am a bootmaker, of Bride Lane—on this evening I was in the Bell, and saw the prisoner run through—Fry followed him—I ran after the prisoner and caught him in Farringdon Street.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not lose sight of him—when I got into the court I could see right through—there was nobody else there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-92" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS COLE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 452). I took the prisoner, and found 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and a key in his shoe—he said that he threw the purse away in Farringdon Street.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-278-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a former conviction at Clerkenwell in March</hi>, 1872,
<hi rend="italic">to which he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, April</hi> 9.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Baron Cleasby.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">The Grand Jury having in this case ignored the Bill</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>,
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ESTHER WISBY</hi> (19)</persName>, was Indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the Prosecution, having opened the case</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WEATHERFIELD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">There was a further indictment for
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<interp inst="t18730407-281-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="other"/>abandoning her child</rs>, upon which
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-99" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS: RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LYON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-100" type="given" value="EDEN"/>EDEN CRAWFORD</persName> </hi>. I am a waterman, and live at 3, Charles Street, Bromley—on 7th February, at 10.30 in the morning, I was in a barge in Limehouse dock—I saw the deceased, Smith, in his beige, and the prisoner in his—I heard them having a little conversation about the turn, who should go through the dock first—the prisoner shoved his barge's head over to Smith's barge—he got into Smith's barge, and struck him on the nose and knocked him down, and caused his nose and mouth to bleed—Smith got up and kicked the prisoner in the privates—the prisoner then went back to his own barge—they used some very bad language to each other—the prisoner came back to Smith's barge, and struck him again and knocked him down, and while Smith was lying down he heaved a piece of wood called a rowing-tack at the prisoner, which caught him in the side—he had it in his hand when the prisoner struck him—the prisoner picked it up and heaved it back at Smith, and it hit him on the head—Smith was lying down at the time—I went and lifted him up, and took him ashore, and the prisoner went back to his own barge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was not a very hard blow that the prisoner received with the wood—I dare say it was hard enough to hurt him—the tack fell down in the barge's head—the prisoner was going to leave to go into his own barge when the wood struck him—he picked it up instantly and threw it back at Smith—he was doubled up with pain from the kick.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-101" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WARES</persName> </hi>. I am a lighterman, and live at 34, Queen Street, Rateliff—on 7th February I was on board a barge in Limehouse dock—I first heard a quarrel, and could not distinguish the cause at the time—I pro
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<p>previous to that I saw the deceased challenge him to fight—he then put his barge's head across, and went in and had a round or scuffle—they fell nearly together—the prisoner was uppermost—they were then out of my sight, as I was in a loaded barge and they were in empty barges, but directly Smith recovered himself he jumped up and kicked the prisoner in the lower part of his body—the prisoner sat down as if in great pain for a few minutes—the prisoner then came back to his barge's head, and the prisoner threw a tack at him—he threw it back again—I don't think that hurt either of them—Smith picked it up again, and threatened if he dared to come there what ho would do to him—the prisoner then picked up another similar piece of wood, and went over to Smith's barge—they had a scuffle, a sparring match, you might term it, and Smith struck the prisoner with this piece of wood in the side—they each had a piece of wood in their baud—the prisoner did not retaliate with his piece; be threw it down, and struck Smith with his fist—when Smith recovered himself again he still had this in his hand, and he was going to do something, aiming or going to strike the prisoner—the prisoner took hold of it and they had a scuffle for the possession of it, and on the impulse of the moment, just as the prisoner got hold of it, he struck him in that way, and that was the end of it—he did not throw it at him—he was clone to him—Smith was endeavouring to strike him with it, and the prisoner took hold of it—ho was in danger of being struck—he was struck once with it when it was in Smith's hand.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-102" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL EDWARDS</persName> </hi>. I live in Lowell Street, Limehouse, and am foreman at a granary there—on 7th February I was in the granary, I went to the door and saw the prisoner and Smith in their barges—I saw the prisoner go from his own barge on to the lad Smith's barge; he had a new rowing tack in his hand—Smith threw a tack at him—he struck Smith across the head with his fist and knocked him down—Smith half raised himself with the tack in his hand, he threw it at the prisoner, and it struck him in the left side—the prisoner instantly took up the tack and struck him across the head; whether it was in his hand at the time, or whether it was thrown, I don't know; they were very close together—the barges were close under the granary door.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> About half-an-hour after I saw the prisoner standing there, Smith and his employer came down; there was a few words between them, and then I saw Smith go over and take the prisoner's hand and shake it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-103" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ROBINSON</persName> </hi>. I am a bargeman—on 7th February I was working in the prisoner's barge; I saw him and Smith jawing—Smith was using some very bad language, and the prisoner went to his barge and hit him; he then returned to his own barge—Smith turned round and kicked him in the privates, and said "I hope I have ruptured you for life"—it hurt him for a time; when ho recovered himself be went back to Smith's barge and hit him again—Smith then picked up this tack and threw at the prisoner, and hit him in the side; the prisoner picked it up and threw it back—they were very close together, but it went out of his hand before it hit Smith, it hit him on the head.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I beard the prisoner say afterwards that he had no intention of hurling the deceased, but only to protect himself.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-104" type="given" value="MARIA"/>MARIA PYBURN</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Pyburn, and live at Poplar—the deceased, Thomas Smith, was my son by a former husband—on 7th February became home with a bandage round his head; bin eye was cut</p>
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<p>very much and swollen, his mouth and nose were out, and a bad wound at the back of his hand—he never recovered—he died on 7th March.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-105" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW BROWNFIELD</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, of 171, East India Road—I first saw the deceased on 20th February, he was suffering from a lacerated wound of the scalp, exposing the bone of the skull—I attended him till his death, and subsequently made a
<hi rend="italic">post-mortem</hi> examination—the immediate cause of death was pressure of matter on the brain—a blow with such a piece of wood as this would be likely to produce such an injury.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He had been attended previously—I believe the wound was dressed soon after the accident.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-106" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS NORMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer K</hi>), I took the prisoner into custody on 9th March—I told him he would be charged with causing the death of Thomas Smith—he said "I will tell you: on 7th February we were in Limehouse Cut, the deceased was in a barge and I was in another; I wanted to go through the bridge, the deceased commenced calling me filthy names, I went on to his barge and I struck him. He returned it with a kick, which caused me great pain; I then went on to his barge and struck him again; he then threw a rowing tack at me, and I in return threw it back again. I had no intention of injuring the man. I am very sorry."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against the prisoner for
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BROMBY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 66). About 2.15 on the morning of 1st March I was on duty, and saw the prisoner standing at the corner of Bracey's Buildings, Blue Anchor Yard; he was leaning on a post, with his arras folded—I said to him "Now my good fellow take and go home, don't stand about here there's a good fellow"—he said "You bleeding
<hi rend="italic">sod</hi>, if you say anything to me I will knock your bleeding eye out"—I said "Nonsense my good fellow, go home, bed is the beet place"—I was about to leave him and as I passed him he tripped me up from behind, and I fell forward on my hands, and my helmet flew off, and at the same time I felt a blow at the back of my head; I then felt a blow on the ear and on the forehead, and after that I recollect no more; I was left senseless on the ground—there was no one there but the prisoner, that I saw—when I came to myself I sprang my rattle; someone, I can't say who it was, called out from a window and said "It is
<hi rend="italic">Dan</hi>, or
<hi rend="italic">Con</hi> Sullivan," I could not say which—that was after I had recovered myself—constable Cooper came up, and I told him it was Sullivan had done it—I bad never seen the prisoner before, to my knowledge—Cooper went to a house that was pointed out; I stayed in the court, and when I saw Cooper again he had the prisoner in custody—I did not notice anything in the prisoner's hand, he put his hands under his coat as I passed him—directly I fell with my hands on the ground, he struck me on the head, behind, and then two blows in succession, as quick as possible, and I could not recollect anything else—I was under the doctor's hands for some time and am now—at the station the prisoner said "I should not have done it to you if you had not spoken to me;" he repeated it over twice.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 99). About 2.15 on the morning of 1st March I was on duty in Glasshouse Street, and saw the prisoner past down</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-111" type="given" value="GEORGE BAGSTER"/>GEORGE BAGSTER PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon—on 1st March, Robins was brought to me early in the morning—he was suffering from a starred wound at the back of the head, reaching to the skull, a severe contusion of the temple, and some more contusions about the forehead and cheek, they were very minor—he was in a semi-stunned condition, which was due to concussion of the brain, which developed itself in further symptoms next day—the wounds at the back of the head were of a severe character; they gave rise to a good deal of sloughing, which bared the bone, and it is not entirely healed now; there is an adhesion between the scalp and the skull, which will render him liable for the future of his life to certain exciting causes; I think the injury to his brain he will recover from—the bruises on the face might be caused by a fall, and coming in contact with the ground, or they might be caused by a man's fist, any violent contact with a hard body—the wounds at the back of the head would be caused by contact with some uneven sharpened surface; it is most unlikely that it could have been caused by a fall, there was not contusion enough—it, was a starred clean-cut wound.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector H</hi>). I was on duty at the station when the prisoner was brought in—the constable made a similar statement to me that he has made to-day, in the presence and hearing of the prisoner—the prisoner said once or twice "I should not have done it if you had not interfered with me"—I have not the charge-sheet here, I entered it as "Unlawfully assaulting and wounding the constable in the execution of his duty"—I read it over to the prisoner, and he again said "I should not have done it if he had not interfered with me"—Robins' head was bleeding very much at the time, and he was a good deal exhausted—he said, in the prisoner's pre
<lb/>sence, that the prisoner had put out his foot and thrown him down, and then struck him whilst he was on the ground.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was rather the worse for liquor; I had been taken to the hospital from a fall off a cab, when I came back it was about 1.30, I stood at the corner where I lived, the constable came up and shoved me two or three times before I said anything to him; being the worse for</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-283-18730407 t18730407-283-punishment-16"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, April</hi> 9, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Quain.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HARRIS</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 261). On 2nd March, about 1.15 a.m., I was on duty in Victoria Street—I heard cries of "Stop thief!" and saw the prisoner running and a soldier running after him—they ran down New Pye Street into Old Pye Street, where he was stopped by the soldier—a boy who was dressed in a kind of blue flannel shirt and a pair of light trousers with a stripe, and his shirt sleeves turned up, was running with the soldier—the soldier gave the prisoner in charge to me—the prisoner said that he did not see why the soldier should hold him when I had got him in custody—I told him to let go, and he then turned on the boy—I had got him by the left hand, and he struck the boy with his right on the side of his head—I could not exactly see whereabouts—he staggered, but I cannot say whether he fell, because the prisoner commenced kicking me—he kicked me twice or three times on my legs, and made three or four kicks at my groin—it took four of us besides myself to take him to the station, and he threw two constables down—we had great difficulty, and had to carry him face downwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The deceased was 17 or 18 years old—I saw him in the hospital, dead—he was the same boy—the prisoner was quite drunk.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> A man came up and struck me—I do not know whether his name was Coomber—that was after I gave the prisoner in charge—there were about fifty people there, a good many of whom had been drinking.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-117" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CREASY</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, of 24, New Peter Street, Westminster—on the morning of 2nd March I was at the corner of Strutton Ground and Victoria Street, and saw the prisoner run across Victoria Street, and the soldier and the boy after him—when I got to Old Pye Street I saw the boy stagger and fall—the soldier had the prisoner then—I do not know whether the constable was there, I was too far off—I picked the boy up—he was insensible—I tried to make him stand, but he could not, and I sat him down between my legs, face up, and he gave a heavy sigh and his eyes rolled over—I got assistance and took him to the hospital—he did not speak, and when he got there the doctor said that he was dead.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw no marks of injury.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 232). I was on duty in Old Pye Street and saw the prisoner in Joyce's custody—a soldier was by his side and a lad in front of him, who was speaking to Joyce and pointing to the prisoner, who said "You b----little
<hi rend="italic">sod</hi>, are you here again? what have you to do with it?"or "what do you know about it?"and he turned halfway round and hit him on the side of the head—I cannot say whether it was under the ear—I saw him stagger across the road and fall, and I lost sight of him—the prisoner was very violent—I took hold of his right arm and was kicked in the stomach and legs—it took five of us to take him to the station—I was thrown down by Coomber—I saw the boy dead at the hospital three quarters of an hour afterwards—he was the same boy who was struck by the prisoner—he had light trousers on, a blue check shirt, and his sleeves were tucked up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner struck him on the side of the head—I may have said that he hit him on the shoulder or head—he hit him on the neck, between the shoulder and the head.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 416). I was called to Mr. Harris's shop about 1 o'clock in the night—Mrs. Harris gave me some information, and I went in the direction of Victoria Street—I saw the deceased boy run past me, and I went in the same direction into Old Pye Street, and saw him in Creasy's arms—I went on to the assistance of my brother constable, and told the prisoner the original charge—I assisted in taking him to the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-121" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HAINES</persName> </hi>. I keep a refreshment house at 19, Chapel Street, West
<lb/>minster—about ten minutes to 1 o'clock in the morning the prisoner and Coomber came in—they did not appear very drunk or I should not have served them—I supplied them with some eels—I do not sell drink—the prisoner commenced talking about his fighting abilities—it appeared that he had been fighting previously—he said that he could beat all the b----lot of them, one at a time—I said nothing, but waited for a policeman to put him out, as he was jeering at the customers—there were about half a dozen customers there—he then used very foul language to my wife—I had never seen him before—I said "You had better be quiet, young man, or else I shall have to to put you outside"—he said "It would take three such bleeding s----as you to put me outside"—the boy Lawrence was there assisting me—he was my wife's brother, and would have been eighteen if he had lived another fortnight—he went round the counter to the prisoner, and took hold of him by the shirt collar to put him out, and another man got up and attempted to strike me, but I was pulled away from him—I don't think it was Coomber—there were four in the same box, who appeared to know each other, but they did not come in together—my wife and sister got the prisoner out by persuasion, and attempted to shut the door on him, but he and his companion turned round and forced it halfway open—the prisoner challenged me to fight, but I took no notice of him—he pushed his arm in through the door, but Lawrence warded the blow off me, and pushed his arm out—a cry was raised of "Here is a policeman coming! Mistress come out and lock him up"—my wife went out and attempted to seize him</p>
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<p>—he kicked at her, but it did not take effect—he ran away, and the police
<lb/>man went after him—the other man ran away at the same time—I should not have allowed the boy to go if I had known it, and I saw him no more till I saw him, dead at 2 o'clock, at Westminster Hospital—he was a strong, healthy, powerful lad for his age.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-122" type="given" value="HERBERT ALFRED"/>HERBERT ALFRED LAWTON</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at Westminster Hospital—on Sunday morning, 2nd March, the deceased was brought in dead—I examined the body, but found no external mark of injury—I made a
<hi rend="italic">post-mortem</hi> examination by the Coroner's direction, and found all the organs healthy, but congested—the lungs were very much congested—the brain was healthy but congested, especially the vessels of the membranes—the heart was healthy, the left side being contracted, the right side flaccid, and containing a little blood; the stomach contained some half
<lb/>digested food; the body was well nourished and powerfully built—I attri
<lb/>bute death to a shock, I cannot say how produced, but I suppose by a blow on the head or on the pit of the stomach, which would affect the brain—I have heard the evidence as to the blow on the head, and that he was never conscious after, and I think that a blow so given, causing such results, would cause his death.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> If he caught his foot on the kerb stone and fell on his head, that would also produce a shock—it could not arise from any other cause that I know of besides a blow or a fall—running in a state of excite
<lb/>ment, after drinking, would not do it—it must have been a shock from some violence—he did not smell of liquor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-123" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY HAINES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). The boy did not drink at all; he had no drink that night—he never did drink any intoxicating liquors.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-284-18730407 t18730407-284-punishment-17"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOUGLAS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-126" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES EDWARDS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman Y</hi> 199). On Thursday, 13th March, about 11 o'clock, a.m., I was on duty opposite the Finsbury Park Tavern, and saw two lads standing on the near side of the Metropolitan tramway, that is, on a siding—they were apparently talking, and were about thirty yards from the Blackstock Hotel—their backs were to approaching cars—I saw a oar approaching, it was close to them, not more than a yard from them at the time I halloaed out; they hardly had time to hear me before the near-side horse knocked the deceased down—the other boy got clear—the oar was going at about five or six miles an hour—they come in very sharp—I saw the boy under the horses' feet, and ran over at once and looked for the driver—he was about half-way between the horses and the oar, looking in this, direction, looking away from the horses—I think he was putting down his whip on the car, his left hand was to the reins and his right was coming from the car—he might have seen the boys forty or fifty yards up the road, but I do not think he did—this was about ten yards from the place where he would stop; some of them go a little further on the siding and some stop short—I pulled the boy out and heard him shouting "Oh, my poor leg"—he was taken to the Great Northern Hospital.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not see the oar till it was within a yard of the boy—it went on four or five yards after striking the boy, not more—the</p>
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<p>only opportunity I had of judging of the pace was while it went six yards—the shunting is a single line of rail—another tram oar was on the siding some distance further on—the other boy had got about two yards from the line before the deceased was struck; he moved in front of the horses, and I had no difficulty in seeing him—on wet mornings you cannot hear the trams, you can only hear the horses—this was not a wet morning.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The break was on when I pulled the boy out—the other car was thirty yards or more ahead—I never measured it, but I am sure there was a car in front, on the siding.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is this a crowded place?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not on week days—it is close to the entrance of Finsbury Park—the handle of the break is close to the coachman's right hand—I do not know whether the other break is used by the conductor, it is used when the horses are yoked to the other end—I took the number of the prisoner's badge, and his name and address, and called a doctor at once—the prisoner's whip was lying on the irons on top of the oar—he had nothing in his right hand—the road was rather on the incline the way he was driving—one or two conductors were on the other side of the way—I did not hear the prisoner shout or do anything.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-127" type="given" value="JOHN ROBERT"/>JOHN ROBERT MORLEY</persName> </hi>. I live at 11, Clifton Terrace, Stroud Green Lane—I saw the two boys standing together on the siding, and saw the tram
<lb/>car coming up at some distance, but I did not think the boys were on the siding—I saw the passengers get out after the boy was run over—I am sure of that—this boy's name was Cray—I was about thirty or forty yards from the boys, at the corner of Blackstock Hotel—I did not see the prisoner there till he shouted to the boy—I heard no shouting before that, but several persons shouted afterwards; I did myself—the front wheel went over the boy and the other wheel slid him along some distance—I do not think the driver could see him: he was in the attitude of putting his whip down, I thought, and was holding the reins in his left hand—I do not suppose he knew that he was knocking down a boy—the siding is eighty or ninety yards long from where it leaves the main road to where they go out at the other end—they stop in general at Finsbury Park Tavern before they get to the horse-trough—the car had not got to the place where they stop when it knocked the boy down—(
<hi rend="italic">The witness pointed out on a plan the spot at which the boy was blocked down</hi>)—he was seven or eight yards before you get to Finsbury Park Tavern door—I saw a car ahead between the front of the door and the horse-trough, the front of it might be
<hi rend="italic">agin</hi> the horse-trough—the car was going five or six miles an hour, more or less, when the accident happened—the break was in front of him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There was another car further on before you get to the horse trough, and he would have to slacken or he must have run into it—I thought the boy was beyond the metal—I was very much frightened—I have seen the drivers put the whip on the rails.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How far was the car when you first saw it from the end?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Fifty or sixty yards—I was with a person who was waiting for a gentle
<lb/>man to come by the tram, and I said "Here comes another one, Johnny"—from the spot where I first saw the car, the driver must have seen the boy on the line if he had looked, there was nothing in the way—I observed it the whole distance, I was looking towards it to see whether this gentleman came, and had ample opportunity of seeing the pace at which he was going—I did not hear the driver call out, or see him make any sign to the boy, and I could not be off seeing him if he did—there was a bell on the horse's</p>
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<p>collar—the driven have a whistle, but the prisoner did not use it that morning—I think they have it on a string.</p>
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<persName id="t18730407-name-128" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-128" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH FULLER</persName> </hi>. I am a gardener, of 37, Queensbury Road, Essex Road—I was near the lamp opposite the Blackstock public-house and saw two lads standing on the metals of the tramway, some minutes before the car came up—I was waiting for a gentleman to come by the car, and was talk
<lb/>ing to the last witness—I first saw the oar fifty or sixty yards before it came to where the accident was, and before it got to the tavern—I saw it approaching the boys, but I did not think they would stop in the way, in fact, I could hardly tell whether they were on the metals or not, it is a sixty or seventy foot road—they were about twenty yards from me—I saw the near side horse knock the boy down, and saw the horse attempting to kick—the horse went, on with the car—the driver was looking back towards the inside of the car, because the passengers had not got out—he was either looking back or putting something back, his head was away from his horses, he does not sit, he stands—you may enter the oar from both ends—I don't think he saw the boy at all till he was knocked down—I saw him apply the break after the boy was run over, and that caused the boy to be skidded along some few yards before he was extricated—I decidedly saw the acci
<lb/>dent before the driver himself saw it—the break seems to stop the whole four wheels at once, as if it was connected from one end of the carriage to the other—the near side lore-wheel ran over the boy—there was some call
<lb/>ing out to the boy from both sides, but not before he was hit.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I am quite certain the break was not full on before the boy was reached, because if it had been the wheel would never have passed over him, from what I can see of the construction of the thing—I know it was not applied' before, because I saw him turn round and put it on after the boy was down—I did not see whether it was his whip or what it was he was putting down, or whether his attention was called into the oar—I did not halloa out—the other boy was about two yards from him, he just stepped out of the way to save himself—the trams have bells, and I could not
<hi rend="italic">be off</hi> hearing this one coming.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you help pick up the boy?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I went round, but five or six people came out of die oar; the driver made no remark, he went on with the car, and I waited for the, next ear, and the gentleman came by it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-129" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES"/>WILLIAM JAMES SMITTEN</persName> </hi>. I live at 1, Campbell Road, Seven Sisters' Road—I was with Cray on the tramway—I was not between the metals, but he was—his back was towards the trams coming from London, and he was looking towards the Manor House and the tea gardens—my back was towards him, and I was looking across the road—I was not talking to him at the time, but I had been about three minutes before—I saw the car coming along as it was shunted—I saw that he was in danger when it was coming into the siding, and I called to him twice—I was then about three yards from him—he did not hear me—I don't know whether he was deaf—I say that he did not hear because he did not move—he was between the two metals then, and I saw the pole hit him on his back, and then saw him lying under the wheels—I did not see the wheel go over him—I went round to the other side; I was not on the Finsbury Park Tavern side; I was between the siding and the main tramway, just where they run into one another, going in the direction of the Blackstock Hotel—I was frightened, and went away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had time to call to him a second time before he was</p>
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<p>knocked down, and he was turning away to get off the line when the pole struck him—the horses were about 10 yards from him when I first called to him—I did not notice the bells—I don't think he heard me the first time, but he did the second.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You come to that conclusion in consequence of his turning away?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—the car was just coming to the siding when I first observed it, and I was going across, making for Blackstock Road—he was waiting for another boy—if he had heard me when I first called out to him, there was plenty of time to get out of the way.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-130" type="given" value="ADAM"/>ADAM YOUNG</persName> </hi>. I am house-surgeon at the Great Northern Hospital—the deceased was brought in on the 13th, suffering from compound fracture of the right thigh bone, with great injury to the soft parts, the muscles, and so on—I found a very great wound, a crushing of the whole of the muscles of the thigh, which had caused blood to flow, and there was a wound behind the left knee; he was also suffering from the shock—I attribute death to the shock supervening on the injuries.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no evidence of negligence, for as the deceased did not get out of the way when the other boy called to him, it would have been the same if the prisoner had called to him.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered that it was not a question of negligence on the part of the deceased, but of the prisoner; and that even if the deceased had been drunk and lying on the rails, there would have been no excuse if the prisoner ran over him. The question was whether the prisoner was guilty of negligence or not.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-132" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-132" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED TOWERS</persName> </hi>. I am chief clerk in the advertising department of the "Birmingham Daily Post"—on 13th February I had 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the families of the gas stokers, and I sent for two post-office orders—these two orders (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) were brought to me—(
<hi rend="italic">One was for</hi> 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">numbered</hi> 26, 464
<hi rend="italic">and the other for</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">numbered</hi> 26,463).—There was then no writing of the name of the payee on them—I put them in a letter addressed to Mr. Potter, Bolt Court, Fleet Street, London, and they were posted with our letters—I made no request at any post-office, nor gave anyone authority, to transfer the orders from Fleet Street to Lombard Street—they are Fleet Street orders—this order, signed "Alfred Towers," is not my writing, or written by my authority.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-133" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BROADHURST</persName> </hi>. I am a stonemason, and secretary to the Gas Stokers' Defence Committee—on 15th February I was acting for that Committee—this letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is not my writing—the treasurer would be the person to receive the money that came for Mr. Potter for the gas stokers—it is possible my name might be known to Mr. Towers through the press—I do not know where 29, St. James's Walk, Clerkenwell, is.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> These were subscriptions which were being raised for the imprisoned gas stokers—Mr. Potter is the editor of the "Beehive"—I am not aware that he takes great interest in strikes—we advertise for subscriptions to be sent to Mr. Guy, the treasurer's house, in the New Kent Road—I am not aware of Mr. Potter receiving any subscriptions—there was no authority to address them to him, but some persons would prefer sending them to him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I know the prisoner's writing—I have seen him write—these words "George Potter" and "Lombard Street" are, to the best of my belief, the prisoner's writing, and it is the same on each order—that observation applies to the receipt, and to the request to transfer—the signature "Alfred Towers" to both the Lombard Street orders is also the prisoner's writing, to the best of my belief—the letter of the 21st is the prisoner's writing, to the best of my belief, and so is the form directed to the postmaster, Fleet Street, and the signature "George Potter," as well as the direction.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What connection have you with the office?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have various business connections with Mr. Potter, but I do no business in his office except in connection with the Committee—I have not worked at my trade for four months—I have been doing some business as an emigration agent, and as secretary of the Labour and League, and secretary of the Gas Stokers.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-134" type="surname" value="TOWERS"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-134" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED TOWERS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I received a letter at Birmingham, signed "Henry Broadhurst, "about 24th February—I replied to it—I believe I gent my reply to some place in Clerkenwell—a stamped envelope was enclosed.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-135" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-135" type="surname" value="GATES"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-135" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN GATES</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Robert Gates, tobacconist, of 29, St. James's Walk, Clerkenwell—in February I received a letter addressed to Mr. George' Potter, and another to Henry Broadhurst—Mr. Potter's came first, I think, I am not quite sure—some one called for Mr. Potter's letter; I do not remember who it was—I delivered Mr. Broadhurst's letter to a gentleman who called; I don't know who it was—I do not know whether the two letters were delivered to the same—person—I don't know the prisoner or Mr. Potter, or Mr. Broadhurst.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you mean to say that you take in a letter addressed to a stranger, whether you know him or not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Tea, that was carried on before I took the business.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We have a card in the window, stating that letters can be left there—we charge one penny each, and when anybody calls we give them the letters they ask for.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-136" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY REGNART</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Fleet Street money order office—on 14th February I received advices from Birmingham, for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. sent on the 13th by the postmaster at Birmingham, to the post
<lb/>master at Fleet Street—after that I received the transfer form in which ere enclosed the two Birmingham orders on Fleet Street—I then issued from the office orders to pay the amount to Towers at Lombard Street, and sent them according to request to 29, St. James's Walk, Clerkenwell.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-137" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-137" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ASLING</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the post-office, Lombard Street—I received these two advices 2870 and 2871 from the postmaster, Fleet Street—the Lombard Street orders were presented to me and paid by me on 25th February—I do not know to whom.</p>
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<persName id="t18730407-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-138" type="surname" value="POTTER"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-138" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE POTTER</persName> </hi>. I am publisher of the "Beehive" newspaper, 10, Bolt Court, Fleet Street—the office is one room on the ground floor—no person uses the office besides myself—Mr. King's office is on the other side of the passage—the prisoner his been employed at the "Beehive" about five years, to write wrappers for "Beehive "newspapers, and to sell the "Bee
<lb/>hive" on Friday and Saturday, and do necessary work—he was the only clerk I had—there was no person in the office but the prisoner and mys el</p>
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<p>—previous to May last I had been in the habit of receiving orders on the Fleet Street post-office, and up to a certain period I sent the prisoner with them to get them cashed after I had signed them, and bring the cash to me—in consequence of something occurring I changed that arrangement—an order or two had been lost and cashed, and I requested the parties at the post-office not to pay any more of my orders through the window to any person, but to cash them through a bank crossed—that arrangement was made in May, 1872, and was continued up to the present day—from that time I have not entrusted the prisoner with any post-office orders to cash at Fleet Street—he had no authority to open my letters or to sign I my name—the office was fastened at night by Mr. King, who is later in the house than others; he shuts the door when he leaves and puts a padlock on it—the prisoner comes at 9 a.m., except on Friday, when he is supposed to be there at 5 o'clock, in order to publish the paper for the country—he ought to sort the letters and lay mine on the desk, and lay any others in the office—he never handed me Mr. Towers' letter Containing two post
<lb/>office orders—I never received it—these signatures on the Fleet Street orders are not mine, nor is the form addressed to the postmaster in Fleet Street, to have substituted orders sent to 29, St. James's Walk, Clerkenwell—I know nothing of 29, St. James's Walk.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Whose writing do you believe them to be?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> As far as I can judge they are in the prisoner's writing, it is a feigned signature, but the character of the writing I believe to be his, and the request also, to the best of my belief—the letter is in a feigned hand, but I believe it is the prisoner's writing—I believe the signatures "A. Towers, "to the Lombard Street orders to be in the prisoner's writing—about 23rd or 26th February I heard from Mr. Broadhurst that the letters had miscarried, and we sent down to Birmingham, and Butler was placed in the office—Hard was with me on the 25th March.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There are ten rooms in the house, but the prisoner was only in one room, which was the office of the "Beehive"—one door leads into the passage, and another into the court—there is a letter-box in both—the morning letters for the whole house are put into the outer door, and it is the prisoner's duty to sort them, but not to distribute them—he lays mine on my desk and keeps the others back, and the clerk from up stairs takes them—one person does not have the ten rooms up stairs—one gentle
<lb/>man, Mr. Pratt, up stairs, had his letters delivered with mine in the morn
<lb/>ing—they were not very numerous—I inhabit the other rooms for my editorial work—Mr. King's letters go into his own private box—I very rarely open the box myself, unless I am going away by an early train—King is an advertising agent—Pratt is a gentleman, and is part proprietor of the "Christian World, "and chairman and director of several companies—he lives at Brighton and seldom comes before 11 o'clock—I go there at 9.15 or 9.30—I am sometimes in the country on my own business—I am not fond of other people's business—my opinion is beyond all doubt that these documents are in the prisoner's writing, but in a feigned hand.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Mr. King has had an alteration made, and his letters are put into his own box ever since last May—his letters were not mixed with mine at all at this time—William Bridge is his clerk—no other letters are put there to my knowledge besides Mr. Bridge's.</p>
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<persName id="t18730407-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-139" type="surname" value="BRIDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-139" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY BRIDGE</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Pratt—this house in Bolt Court belongs to him—he is publisher and proprietor of certain papers—I</p>
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<p>have been in his employment eight or ten yean—I have known the prisoner since he has been there, and am well acquainted with his writing—I have seen it daily—the signature "George Potter" to these Fleet Street orders is, I believe, the prisoner's writing—I am acquainted with Mr. Potter's writing—they are certainly not his; nothing like it—I also think this request to the postmaster in Fleet Street is the prisoner's writing, but it is disguised, and written with a fine-pointed pen—these signatures, "A. Towers, "to the Lombard Street orders, are also in the prisoner's writing, I should say there is very little deviation.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The writing resembles the prisoner's ordinary natural writing—I come at 10 a.m., and on Saturdays from 6 o'clock to 7—I have borrowed the prisoner's key to let myself in, but not this year or last—it is twelve months since I worked there at night—I never get there now till 10 on Saturdays, or any other days—Mr. Pratt is a publisher and part pro
<lb/>prietor of papers—he used to assist Mr. Potter in the publication of the "Beehive"—he has been dead three weeks—there is a letter-box in every door of the house—the door is opened at 9, and if the postman comes and the door is open, he brings the letters up stairs—nobody sleeps on the pre
<lb/>mises—there is no housekeeper.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the prisoner the person who was expected to come first of a morning?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, to open the outer door—he might then find the letters in the common box—it was his duty to sort them, and if he found any for Mr. Pratt he would place them inside his own letter-box—he would simply reserve them till I came—he would give Mr. King's letters to Mr. King's clerk.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> There is a slit in the door and a slit in Mr. King's window—the only letters coming through the door would be Mr. Potter's and Mr. Pratt's—Mr. Potter had about half-a-dozen letters a day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-140" type="surname" value="BUTLER"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-140" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN BUTLER</persName> </hi>. I am a detective officer specially employed by the General Post Office—in consequence of complaints at 10, Bolt Court, I went there on Friday morning, 21st March—I had the key from Mr. King, and was locked in between 4 and 5 in the morning—I placed myself where I could see the counter in Mr. Potter's office, but I was in Mr. King's room—the outside door was opened by the prisoner about 6.15—he went into the office and went about his ordinary business, serving customers, and at 8 o'clock the letter-carrier came, and put some letters into the inner letter
<lb/>box in Mr. Potter's door, the "Beehive" office—the prisoner had just left the office then, and gone somewhere about the building—he returned in a few minutes, and took the letters from the box and placed them in a desk at the end of the office, directly opposite the door where I was concealed—he then took a pen-holder or pencil and a bottle of gum, and a piece of blotting-paper, which he placed on the counter, and opened four letters by putting the pen-holder or pencil in, and prizing them open gradually—three he sealed up again with gum, and the fourth he put into his pocket—he remained there till 9 o'clock.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-141" type="surname" value="HANN"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-141" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HANN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 25th March I was concealed in Mr. King's office at 4 a.m.—the letter-carrier came at about 8.15, and the prisoner opened the outer door at 9—I saw him open the outer door and the shutters of the office-door—he then came into the passage, picked up some letters, and took them to the office—Mr. Potter came at 9.30, and I then went into the office and told him, in the prisoner's presence, what I had seen the prisoner put in his pocket—I then took him in custody; and on the same</p>
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<p>morning, when I was taking him to Guildhall Police Court, he made a sudden rush and got away from me—I caught him and we both fell, and he got away again, but was stopped in Milk Street, and I took him again.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-142" type="surname" value="HALFORD"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-142" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HALFORD</persName> </hi>. I am a hosier and outfitter—I have known the prisoner six years, and have seen him write—in my opinion the signature, "George Potter, "to these Fleet Street orders is not his writing, nor is this request, nor this letter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have some of the prisoner's writing in my pocket—it is the book of a society which it is his duty to keep—I have never compared it, because I have never seen these papers till this moment—I attended on Monday to give the prisoner a character, and I attended the examination at Guildhall, but I did not see the documents—I knew on Monday that I was to give evidence as to his writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you give a confident opinion upon it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> To the best of my belief; the characters are entirely different, capitals and all—I have two books here which it is the prisoner's duty to keep—I have not com
<lb/>pared them—it is in connection with this society that I have become acquainted with his writing—his writing has not come before me regularly, but year by year the books go through my hands.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-143" type="surname" value="VENEMORE"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-143" type="given" value="THEODORE JOHN"/>THEODORE JOHN VENEMORE</persName> </hi>. I am a warehouseman, and live at 11, King Street, Camden Town—I have known the prisoner seven or eight years and have seen him write many times—the name "George Potter" to these Fleet Street orders, is not the prisoner's writing, in my opinion—the transfer is in the same writing and is certainly not his—I do not see a letter resembling his in this letter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw him write the first Monday in last month—I see him write at least once a month and sometimes more frequently—I have some of his writing in my pocket—I have never seen the forged documents before—I did not go to Guildhall—I attended here
<hi rend="italic">on</hi> Monday at the request of the prisoner's attorney—I knew that I was expected on behalf of the prisoner to speak to handwriting.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I wanted to see it before I was able to speak to it—I give it as my deliberate opinion that these are not the prisoner's writing—I can see no resemblance whatever—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is a letter in the prisoner's writing, to the best of my belief, but it is not to me but to his wife—it is signed "John" only, and dated June 7, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How came you in possession of it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I received it from his wife since his arrest—I should say that the word "oblige" in this letter is very dissimilar to the word "oblige" in the letter to Mr. Broadhurst—I should not say that they were written by the same hand—they are so dissimilar that I should not say they are the same—the "g" is the only letter; that resembles it slightly.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-144" type="surname" value="OXLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-144" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN OXLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a post-office clerk of 36, Catherine Street—I have known the prisoner six or seven years and have been in the habit of seeing his writing—in my opinion the "George Potter "on these Fleet Street orders is net his writings—this order for the transfer does not appear to be anything like his writing—in my opinion it is not his writing disguised—I do not believe the prisoner ever put pen to this paper (
<hi rend="italic">The letter</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There is some similarity between this paper (
<hi rend="italic">Handed to the witness</hi>), and the prisoner's writing, but I don't think it is his.' I do not</p>
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<p>believe these two words "oblige" on this paper and in the Broadhurst letter are written by the prisoner, or that they are written by the same person; but one is more like his than the other—I have seen him write on many occasions but I do not know that I have preserved any of his writing—I was here on Monday—I have not seen any of these documents before now—I was asked to come here by a friend of his, not by the solicitor—I mean to say that when I stepped into the witness box I did not know that I was going to be asked as to writing; I came to give him a character.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">J. HALFORD</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I have books in my possession kept by the prisoner, but have not seen him write in them—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the class-book of a Sunday School of which I am superintendent, and which he keeps and writes in Sunday by Sunday—he is a teacher—this is another book in which he writes as superintendent.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You never saw him write in either of the books?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, but I have seen him write—I constantly received his letters and acted on then.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-called.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-145" type="surname" value="POTTER"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-145" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE POTTER</persName> </hi>. This document (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the ordinary order of the prisoner's, "Please print another ream, and oblige John Coles. Jan. 7, 1872." It is what he sends to the printer—these two slips with figures (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are also his writing—they are two weekly statements of the sale of the paper.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">J. HALFORD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Just point out which is the prisoner's writing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It commences where it is turned down, and from there to the end of the book, I believe, is all in his writing—they are, minutes of different meetings, signed by the chairman—the other, the school-book, is his writing, too, and I have the corresponding book for 1872 as well—this (
<hi rend="italic">pro duced</hi>) is a book of signatures, all of which were written by the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-286-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-286-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18730407-286-punishment-18" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-286-punishment-18" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-286-18730407 t18730407-286-punishment-18"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, April</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Deputy Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK HARRIS</hi> (38)</persName>
<rs id="t18730407-287-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<interp inst="t18730407-287-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Feloniously forging and uttering an acquittance for the sum of 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>, Q.C.,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLADE</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-147" type="surname" value="MCCARTHY"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-147" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MCCARTHY</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, living in Bermondsey—on 21st August, 1871, I was taken up and got a term of six months' imprisonment—at that time I had 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the Post Office Savings' Bank—I think it was about a year before that I made my first deposit—the prisoner was with me when I made it—I believe he lived at Oak Lane, Limehouse, at that time
<lb/>he was no friend of mine; he was a neighbour—I cannot write and I made a cross—the prisoner witnessed the mark—I did not draw any money out at any time—I never authorised the prisoner to draw any out for me—when I came out of prison at the end of the six months' I did not see the prisoner—I did not see him till I saw him in a jeweller's shop in the Edgware Road—I was enquiring about him from the time I came out, which was on 10th March, 1872, and I did not see him till the 10th of last month, when I found him at work in the jeweller's shop—I gave him in charge—I found my money was gone when I came out of prison, and I; got Father Stanton, my priest, to apply to the Post Office authorities for</p>
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<p>my book—I had not seen the prisoner the Saturday before I went to prison, and I did not go to his house—I did not have any conversation with him about my savings' bank book at any time before I went to prison—I saw him at the police-station afterwards, and I asked him if he would give me 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of my money I would give him six months to pay the rest—I did not want to lock him up—when I went to the jeweller's shop I asked him for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that was half the money, and I would give him six months to pay the remainder—he made no answer—the policeman was standing against the door outside, and I gave the prisoner into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Prisoner.</hi> I know you are a silver-plater by trade—we were not very intimate at the time I was arrested—I lived next door to you in Walker Street, Bow Common; we were not intimate at that time—I have seen a shop there, and have seen a man at work in the shop, but I did not know it was yourself—I was never in your shop; I have been in your house sometimes—I never gave you my watch-chain to plate—I did not come to your house in Oak Lane on 19th August—I was arrested on 21st August—I did not get a notice of withdrawal from the savings' bank and hand it to you—I never signed a notice in your presence—I was not anxious to withdraw my money before my arrest—my wife had not 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in her possession when I was taken to prison—I know she got 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from her father-in-law towards my defence—she would have a little money in the house after I paid her on the Saturday—my wife did not ask me in prison if she was to give you my bank-book—if she gave it to you, she gave it without my authority—I gave her no authority to give you my book—I did not tell my wife to ask you to get Counsel for my defence when I was in the House of Detention—I know James Downs—I know he is em
<lb/>ployed at the Gas Works at Vauxhall, I saw him there—I never saw him before that—I don't know where he lived—I was told in Pimlico that he worked at the Gas Works, and I found he did work there, and he said you had gone away and your wife—I did not tell him what I wanted to see you for—I did not tell him I had given you notice to withdraw my money—when I gave you into custody I asked you for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and said I would give you six months to pay the remainder.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-148" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-148" type="surname" value="MCCARTHY"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-148" type="given" value="CATHARINE"/>CATHARINE MCCARTHY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—he went to prison on 21st August, 1871—the day after he was locked up I was going to see him, and the prisoner met me in the street and said "Have not" the policemen been to your house and searched—I said "Yes"—he said, "I have heard they have been there, did they take anything away r—I said "No"—he said "They will come twice more, and search the house, and will take everything away out of the house, "and he said "Have you got any bank-book?"—I said "Yes"—he said "They did not take that away?"—I said "No, they did not"—he said "You give it to me and I will mind it for you until such time as your husband's trial will be over, and then I will give it you again"—I did not give it to him, and he walked with me right up to Clerk en well—I met him again afterwards, the next day—he said "If you don't, the policemen will have it and take it away, and you had better move out of the house as soon as you can"—he told me I had best leave the house as quick as I could, because the policemen would come and take all away—I did not give it to him that day—he followed me every day until I gave him the book—I believe it was the same week that my husband was taken that I gave it to him—I don't know how many days—I did not show the prisoner</p>
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<p>the book before I gave it to him—I never saw him again after that until I saw him in Arbour Square—I did not give him any authority to draw out the money—I did not go to the prisoner's house after my husband was taken—he never showed me a notice of withdrawal—I did not go to any post-office to get money—I have no male cousin—my husband has, and he is in Court—it is not true that I went on the Monday after my husband was taken, to the post-office with a cousin, or with any man—I have not had any money from the prisoner at all—it is not true that I went to a public-house with the prisoner, counted the money and handed it him—I went to his house a week or so after I gave him the book, and it was shut up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Prisoner.</hi> I have been to your house in Oak Lane, with my husband, to see your wife—I did not know she was your house
<lb/>keeper—she lived next door to me, so I knew her well as a neighbour—I never went into the country with her—I did not come to your house after my husband was locked up and tell you that he was locked up—I did not give the bank-book to the police; you had it and made use of it too—I did not ask my husband whether I was to give it to you—I did give it you in the street, not in your house—I never put a cross on a piece of paper in your house—my husband did not leave me 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. when he was looked up—I had a little money—I borrowed 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. towards paying for my husband's defence—I was short of money at the time, but I had 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from America while my husband was in prison—the money I received from America was for keeping my husband's mother—I lived next door but one to you in Walker Street—I don't know that you plated my husband's watch-chain—you had a shed or something there, but I was never in it—I don't know whether my husband has ever been to your house in Walker Street.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-149" type="given" value="JAMES DUNCAN"/>JAMES DUNCAN LONG</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Savings' Bank Department of the Post Office—I produce a deposit-book, "Mile End, 6344"—the name of the depositor is "John McCarthy, 33, Burgess Street, St. Paul's Road, E."—a depositor wishing to withdraw, would obtain a notice of withdrawal, which is procurable at any post-office, and fill it correctly up, sign it, and forward it to the principal office, having filled in the amount he wishes to withdraw, and the name of the office at which he wants the warrant paid; a warrant is then sent to the depositor, and an advice to the office named—on 25th August, 1871, this notice of withdrawal came into my hands—it is dated 19th August, and the postmark is the 24th—it is signed "The mark of John McCarthy; witness to above mark, F. Harris, now 5, Oak Lane, Limehouse, E."—that is the address of the supposed marksman—it is to withdraw a sum of 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with interest, to close account—I compared the notice with the signatures which we keep, and compared one cross with
<lb/>another to see that they were properly attested, and sent it to the ledger clerk, and had the warrant made out; I then sent it to "5, Oak Lane, Limehouse"—the warrant was returned to me on 30th August as paid, the depositor's book came with it, and the account was closed—I received a letter from Father Stanton, in March last year, in consequence of which I made inquiries.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Is it necessary to put the number of the book oh the notice of withdrawal?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-150" type="surname" value="COLE"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-150" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL COLE</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Eastern District post-office—on 28th August, 1871, this warrant was produced for payment—it was presented by the depositor McCarthy, or somebody representing him—the depositor not</p>
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<p>writing his name, I should inquire whether that was his cross or mark, and apparently I have got him to make a fresh one in the office—it was not done plainly in the first instance, and I requested the depositor to make his mark afresh—no doubt there were two men together when it was presented—I paid the money to one of those men—I should not have paid it if one of the persons had been a woman, because the depositor was a man and the witness was a man—I kept the book, and forwarded it to the chief ofljce—the money I paid was 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> I do not identify you as having presented this warrant, nor being present at the time—I should not have paid it if it had been presented by one man, unless I knew the depositor personally—I should ask him if he was the depositor; if he said he was the witness to it and had witnessed the depositor's marks, I should not pay it; I should only pay it to the depositor himself, or the one who said he was the depositor—it is not necessary it should be signed in my presence.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-151" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-151" type="surname" value="BEDELLS"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-151" type="given" value="MARY LANGDON"/>MARY LANGDON BEDELLS</persName> </hi>. I am the daughter of James Bedells, the post
<lb/>master at Mile End Road—a declaration is necessary when a deposit is first made, which is to be signed by the depositor—I filled up this declaration for McCarthy on 26th May, 1870—it is attested by Harris, and signed with the cross of McCarthy—I made out the book which has been produced.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-152" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN MOORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant D</hi> 16). On the 10th of last March the prisoner was given into custody by McCarthy at 87, Edgware Road, and charged with obtaining 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from a Post Office Savings' Bank by forgery—the prisoner made no reply at first—McCarthy said "Now, Mr. Harris, you have had my money; if you will give me 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I will not charge you,—Harris said "I have no money; you had better take me to the station, I can explain better there"—at the station he said "I had the book, have drawn the money and spent it, and it was by their authority; and I will give you 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week out of my wages if you don't charge me."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-153" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-153" type="surname" value="FORD"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-153" type="given" value="MARIA ANN"/>MARIA ANN FORD</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of a labourer, and live at Shore Alley, Limehouse—I knew the prisoner as a neighbour living at 5, Oak Lane—he was living there in August, 1871—I bought a chest of drawers of him on the 29th August, and he left on the 30th or 31st, and did not come back.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner, in his defence, stated that two days before the prosecutor was arrested, on the</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st August, he went to his house in Oak Lane, and signed the notice of withdrawal, knowing the risk he was going to run of being taken into custody on the Monday; that the notice was all filled up, except the number of the book, which was filled up after McCarthy was arrested; that he never denied having the book and receiving the money, but that it was paid into his hands by a man who went to the post-office, and he was to have it ready when McCarthy came out of prison; that he got into difficulties and could not do so, but had said that he was willing to pay</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">down and</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">a week, and that he was innocent of the charge of forgery.</hi>
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<interp inst="t18730407-287-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>*—
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<hi rend="italic">Two Years' Imprison
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JACOB PROUT</hi> (37)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES DENNY CHAPMAN</hi> (62)</persName>, were indicted with
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM STEVENS</hi> </persName> (
<hi rend="italic">not in custody</hi>),
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Prout; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WARNER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Chapman.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-157" type="given" value="ARCH"/>AHCH UREEN</persName> </hi>. I live at 19, Church Road, Homerton—in December las</p>
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<p>I was in the service of Mr. Auckinvole, who trades under the firm of Johnson and Fairie, and has business premises at Glasgow, Bradford, and 19, Old Change—I am employed as salesman at 19, Old Change—he is a yarn merchant—I have been in his service twelve months—we occupied the first floor—the prisoner Prout had an office there as well, on the second floor—he was there before I was—I have known him about six years—on 30th December I had in coburgs, cords, alpacas, and flannels for the purpose of selling—the coburgs, cords, and alpacas were worth 435
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and the flannels 118
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 30th December a person named Stevens called on me, and wanted to see ray Bradford goods; before that he had placed two or three memo
<lb/>randa in my letter-box, saying that he wanted to see me; they were generally put in at the time I went to dinner—I showed him the goods—Prout was present and assisted me in showing them—I asked him who he was repre
<lb/>senting, and Stevens said he was the buyer for Paul Henwood, of Lime Street, and their shipping office was at 154, Leadenhall Street—Prout wrote that on a piece of paper at the time he was leaving—Stevens looked at the goods, and I told him my price for them—after I had shown him the different numbers, he offered me a farthing a yard less to clear the lot—I told him that I could not do so until I had communicated with my people in Brad
<lb/>ford, and then Prout reminded me of a letter I had had from them to say that I could take a farthing a yard less, which I had forgotten at the time—he wrote on a piece of paper "Do you recollect the letter?"—I don't know what has become of that—I destroyed it with my letters—I read the memorandum, and I then remembered I had received a letter to that effect—I had previously shown that letter to Prout—I then told Stevens that he could have the goods; that applied to the coburgs, cords, and alpacas—after that, as he was going out, I asked him if he was a buyer of flannels—he said he could buy them if the price was right—I showed him the flannels and Prout assisted me—he said he would let me know the next day, he could not agree to take them then—he came the next morning and said he would take them—I asked him then for a reference, and he referred me to Cook, Sons, & Co., and told me he could give me several if I wanted them—that was a reference for Paul Henwood—he rather laughed at the idea of my asking him for a reference—I told him I should not send the goods until I had a reference—the reference was very good—on the following day Stevens came in again and told me how he wished them to be packed, and asked when I could get them ready—I asked him how long he could give me, and he said "Till 4 o'clock"—Prout was there—I asked Stevens if he would give me till 4.30, as I could not get them done, and Prout offered to assist me in packing them—I said I would try and get them in by then—Prout did not come to assist me at the time until nearly 4 o'olook or a little after, so I was behind in getting them ready—I had been packing them up in the meantime—Prout assisted me when he came—Stevens came again about 5 o'clock or 5.30; the goods were not all packed by that time—he asked me why I had not sent them—I told him I was unable to get them ready, and that I could not get them ready till 6 o'clock—he left and came in again in about a quarter of an hour—Prout and I had continued packing—it was then nearly 6 o'clock—I told him I could not promise them till the next morning, as the waggons were busy to go north and south of London for their regular customers—Stevens said he must have them that night—I told him I could not do impossibilities, if I could not get a waggon of course I could not deliver them—he looked at his watch and said it was just 6, and one of</p>
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<p>Paul Henwood's waggons would be in Leadenhall Street, as they had three or four waggons of their own—I referred to Prout, and asked him what he thought of it, and he said it would be a very good idea if he wanted them that evening, as he could not have them without—Stevens went away, and came back with a man and a waggon a little after 6—we had finished the packing then—Clegg was the carman of the van—Stevens came up with the man and said "Those are the goods, take them down and put them in the van"—Prout was there then and his brother-in-law—the carman took the first lot down, and Prout followed him with some more—his brother-in
<lb/>law took some down as well—I was going to take them, but Prout sug
<lb/>gested that the man should keep in the waggon; they would take them down and I should get them ready for them to take—Prout and his brother
<lb/>in-law carried the goods down—the carman, after the first time, remained down stairs—I delivered the goods in that way—after they had taken two or three loads down I asked Prout to ask Stevens whether there was any occasion for them to be signed for, as I had a book for that purpose—when he came up again for some more goods he said Stevens said there was no occasion, as it was Paul Henwood's own van and carman—that satisfied me as I had had a good reference—the goods were all delivered in that way—Prout and his brother-in-law took about a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes to take them down—Stevens was at the tail end of the van and the carman was stowing the goods away—I did not make put any invoice as the goods came from Bradford; I sent my list of what I had sold, and it would come up from Bradford—after the goods were carried down, Prout and his brother-in-law remained in my room a few minutes and then left. Stevens went with the waggon—I afterwards saw the whole of the goods at Burton's sale rooms at the Broadway, Ludgate Hill, on the 15th January—they are the same goods—before that, on the 5th or 6th, I wrote a letter to 154, Leadenhall Street, the address which was given as the shipping office—I addressed it to Stevens—he said I should always find him there if I wanted to write—I did not get any answer, and I went there myself on the 16th—I found 154 was Deacon's Reading Rooms, and my letter was lying there unopened—I went to 12, Lime Street—I found that there were business premises there, but that they had never ordered the goods—I had not been in the habit of selling goods to shippers—Prout had suggested that I should go round amongst the shippers—I did not hear from Stevens how he came to me—two or three days after the goods had gone, Prout spoke to me about commission, as he had brought the man to me—I said, "You did not bring him, he came by himself, "that was all that was said—Prout and I used to live together in the same house of business, that is how I knew him—he used to sell some of my goods, and was very often in my place—he went down to Cornwall, and I received this letter from him on the 17th or 18th January—when I found the goods were wrong I had written to him—I said "You know as much about the goods as I do, you had better come up, "and this was his answer—"New Quay, Cornwall, Sunday. Dear John, I am astounded at the contents of your letter; will be, if possible, on Tuesday morning in London. I was required down to see my mother, who is ill and wants to make her will. Will be with you as soon as possible. By G—! if I had thought he was a swindler what would I have done with him! I should like to be with you now. Cheer up, I shall most likely find him out. I shall know him again when I see him; he was someone who understood the trade, by the way he handled</p>
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<p>and looked at the goods. I am sorry for you, yet you could not help it; I should have done the same if I was in your place. References first-class, what more was there wanted? If I get the will made to-morrow, I will be with you on Tuesday. Cheer up all you can." I know Prout's writing very well, and have seen him write—this invoice of Hall & Co. is in his writing—I should not have parted with my goods unless I had thought it was a true story about Henwood, and the shipping office, and all about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>. I had sold goods for Prout on several occasions, and I had sold him goods for my employers—the last amount was over 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have sold him goods for the last four or five months—he has had credit and he has paid—the last payment was in January, after this affair—I never received the money—it was sent down to Bradford—I think it was 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he is still indebted about 170
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for goods sold to him—he was in the habit of coming to my office nearly every day—he has never assisted me in packing before—my goods have generally come from the manufacturers to the wholesale houses and have not been delivered at my office at all—he had no opportunity before this of assisting me in packing—he used to take my goods out and sell them, and he had 2 1/2 per cent, for what he sold—he has not sold a great deal; to the amount of some hundreds, I dare say—the commission would come from Bradford to him, not through me—no doubt that would be taken off his account—he was in the office when Stevens first came—we had just come in from din
<lb/>ner—we generally went to dine together—I had never seen Stevens before, and as far as I could judge Prout had not—he remained about half-an
<lb/>hour the first time—Prout was present all the time, and we talked the matter over after Stevens left—I had the reference to Cook's the next morning—I had the name Paul Henwood—I know now it is a well known name in the trade, but I did not know it then—Prout did not remain long after Stevens left—I don't think I saw him again that day—it was on the first occasion he wrote something on a piece of paper and handed to me—a reduction of a farthing a yard is a very common thing to clear a large quantity—Prout came to the office the next morning for a short time, in the usual way—Stevens did not come the next day, but on the 1st January—he came early in the morning—Prout was there; he came in afterwards—he merely said "Good morning" to Stevens—they did not seem to be acquainted—it was on that day the goods were loaded in the way I have told you—I say that this invoice is in Prout's writing—the "January" I believe to be his—the other part is disguised, but I believe it to be his writing—the figures are like his figures—I can't point out any other resemblance to his writing except in the top part and the figures—the word "January" is more like his style of writing—the figures are joined together in his usual way of making them, but there is nothing particular about that—I was given into custody on this charge at first.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I did not see whether Paul Henwood's name was on the waggon, I had no occasion to go down—this is the largest quantity I have sold since I have been there—I had never sold to a shipper before—Prout suggested that I should sell to shippers, and we went round amongst the shippers, trying to sell these things—I sold them a farthing a yard off the usual price—that was in consequence of the letter, and I was anxious to clear them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not see the name on the van—I just went down at</p>
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<p>the last to say "Good-bye" to Mr. Stevens, and then they went off—before Stevens came there had been one or two papers put in the letter box—I showed them to Prout—they led me to expect a Mr. Stevens would call—Prout said he thought it was one of the persons we had been calling on, but he did not leave the firm's address—had he done so I should have gone down with my patterns to show them.</p>
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<persName id="t18730407-name-158" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-158" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK CLEGG</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Stephen Baker, a carman, of 263, Hoxton Street—on the evening of the 1st January, between 5 and 6, somebody came and hired a van—he saw my master—he said he wanted a covered van to move some goods from Old Change—I had a covered van, with two horses—I went to 19, Old Change—I don't know who the man was—he rode beside me—when we got there I went up stairs to the first floor with him—there were some goods and three or four men there—I went down to the van again, and Prout and another man brought the goods down and I packed them in the van—the man who hired the van told me to drive to the Amherst Road, Hackney, and then he would show me where to go—when we got there he pointed out a private house, five or six doors from the Fairlie Hotel, and said "Go there and leave the goods, "and he went away—he said he had had a few words with a gentleman who was there, and he did not wish to see him—as I was driving to the house Prout met me in his shirt sleeves and said "Follow me"—I knew him again as the man who had brought down the goods at Old Change—he led the way and I drove the van into the back gates of the Fairlie Hotel into the yard—he said I was to unload there—he and three or four others assisted to unload—some of the goods were taken into the house and some were left in the yard—Prout asked me how much there was to pay for the hire of the van—I said "10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., as agreed"—he paid me 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for my master and 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for myself—it was a heavy load—after I was paid I drove home—after a short time, from what I heard, I gave a description of the men to Spittle, the officer—I am quite sure Prout is the man who paid me, and one of the two who brought the goods down—I have an idea that. Chapman helped to unload—I believe he was there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>. I am a cabman—I have had two licenses—I had the first one in 1868—I did not lose it; I threw it in and went into a situation—I was not dismissed by my master—I will swear that—I went into a china and glass business—I was there four years—I was discharged from there for drunkenness—I got drunk on several occa
<lb/>sions—I went in Baker's service in September—he keeps vans—I did not tell him I had been discharged for drunkenness—he never asked me—he has discharged me, not exactly for drunkenness; I stopped away as well—I have not damaged goods of his—I did not damage a piano—when I was taking this van of his to Hackney I stopped in Shoreditch to drink—I did not stop anywhere else—I was sober enough then—I don't know whether I stopped at more than one place or not—I had not been drinking during that day—I was sober enough when I went away with the van—I drove the van up against the wall as I was going into the yard—I thought I had room, but I had not—it was before that I spoke to Prout—I was following him into the yard—it was a dark night—I don't know whether there was any moon—I was the only one in charge of the van—I saw some other people at the hotel—I did not have anything to drink there—I don't think I saw the landlord; I saw the potman—I don't know whether he saw Prout talking to me—I was about 20 minutes or half-an-hour unloading—Prout</p>
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<p>and the other man I saw at Old Change assisted to unload, and an old man who I thought was Chapman—I did not see Prout after that till he was in custody—it might have been a fortnight after this affair that I made a communication to Spittle—I don't know how many times I got drunk in that fortnight; perhaps not at all—I won't answer for half-a-dozen—I hare been discharged eight weeks—I am in nobody's service at present—I am doing odd work—there has been a reward offered and I have had it; three guineas—I have had it and spent it—Spittle did not take me to see Prout—I went with another officer—he asked me if there was anyone I could pick out and it picked him out—he told me he had got the man in custody and would I come to Bow Lane and pick him out—I have had the three guineas a little at the time—I don't expect any more—I told Spittle that Prout was a man about 30, dark hair and a fair moustache, rather stiff built—I don't know that I told him anything else—that was all the de
<lb/>scription I gave.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. Chapman was amongst the others, and I said I had an idea he was one of them—I said before—the Magistrate, to the best of my belief Chapman was there—I should not like to swear he was one of the men who assisted to unload, but I have an idea he was.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I went at a walking pace to Hackney; it did not take two hours—I drove the van myself the whole distance, and did not meet with any accident at all—Prout led the way into the yard—I had never driven in there before—there was a cart outside the gate, and turning round that the wheel caught the post—I assisted in unloading, and drove safely home afterwards—I was sober—I have no doubt about Prout at all—there were eighteen or twenty at Bow Lane when I picked him out—I told the officer I thought Chapman was one—there were several there with moustaches.</p>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-159" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SPITTLE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Sergeant</hi>). On 11th January this matter was put into my hands, and on the 15th I found that the geods were deposited at Burton's, Ludgate Hill—in consequence of what Mr. Burton said, Chapman was sent for—he has a basement room in Chiswell Street—his name is up there—he is described there as an agent to a coal merchant—there were a few wine bottles and empty cases in the room—I remained at Burton's some time, and Chapman came there—I asked him from whom he had received the goods he brought to Mr. Burton's—he said "I bought them of a man named Hall"—I asked dim what he paid for them—he said 450
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for them and two bales which he had not received—I asked him how he paid for them—he looked at Mr. Burton and said "With your cheques"—he had previously shown me this invoice—I asked Mr. Burton to let me see the cheques—he produced three cheques, one for 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., another for 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and another for 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., all dated 8th January—seeing the receipt to the invoice was dated the 7th, I remarked to Chapman, "Why, these cheques are dated the 8th, and your invoice is the 7th of January"—he said "I have paid 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on account on the 7th, and the rest on the following day"—a day or two after I saw him at his place of business, 2, Chiswell Street, and I asked him to let me see the book containing the entries of this transaction—he showed me this book, and an entry of 75
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to
<hi rend="italic">C.</hi> Hall and Co. on the 7th January—I said "This is for 75
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. only"—he said "Oh, there is 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. dis
<lb/>count"—he pointed out an entry lower down, under the head of Thursday, January 8th, Messrs. Hall & Co., Burton's cheque 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., ditto 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., ditto 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., less 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—I asked him how he purchased the goods, whether he saw them before doing so—he said "I saw a piece of the coburg, and samples of</p>
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<p>the rest"—I asked him when he received them—he said "On the morning of the 7th they were brought in a van to my place"—I asked him from where—he said he did not know—I asked him whether he knew the name of the carman who brought them—he said he did not, and he did not know the name of the carman who took them from his own place to Burton's—he said he sent a boy who was hanging about for a carman, and he would not know who he was until he had received the account—I asked him whether he knew Hall—he said "I purchased some things of him about twelve months ago, but never knew his address"—I tried to find Hall & Co., but there is no 196, Mincing Lane—I telegraphed to Cornwall, and Prout was taken into custody—I went down and saw him at the police-station at St. German's—I read the warrant to him, and he said he did not understand it—I brought him to London, and when the charge was read over to him at Bow Lane Station I said "The property referred to in the warrant is that which you assisted in removing from Mr. Green's warehouse on 1st January last"—he said "I know all about it"—I know the Fairlie Hotel—Prout lives about 400 yards from it—Chapman was taken on 23rd February—I did not take him myself.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>. I went down to Cornwall—the officer who took Prout into custody is not here—Mr. Green gave me Prout's address, but I did not go there—he was up in London when I first had information about this—he came up from Cornwall at Mr. Green's request—he came to the police-office in the Old Jewry—he called once later than was arranged, and I did not see him—he told me he was going back to Cornwall, and gave me his address at New Quay—I brought him up to London—I believe his mother lived at New Quay—I believe he was staying with somebody at St. German's.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I first saw Chapman on 15th January, and he was taken into custody on the 23rd February—he was always to be found between those dates—I saw him when I wanted to—he professed to be anxious to give me all the information he could—I have heard that these goods, after they left Mr. Green's, were offered for sale to a commission dealer of the name of Woolf—I have not heard that he declined to buy them because there was no invoice made out—I know Mr. Waller, Mr. Burton's foreman; he might have been the person who told me—I have no recollec
<lb/>tion of Chapman saying he had been to Fenchurch Street to find Mr. Hall—I won't undertake to say he did not—he told me that he had advertised these goods, or caused them to be advertised, several times for sale—he told me he had given Mr. Burton instructions to advertise them, and the pro
<lb/>perty was discovered there by the catalogue.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> When Prout called On me at Old Jewry I had not dis
<lb/>covered who the carman was who had removed the goods from Old Change to the Fairlie Hotel, or that Prout had been there at all—I found out Clegg in the early part of February, and it was after that that I telegraphed to Cornwall, and he was taken into custody—the warrant would be dated early in February—I got the warrant after Clegg was found, that was about three weeks before the man was taken.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">A. GREEN</hi>. Would cords be desoribed as Russells?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-160" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM EDGINGTON</persName> </hi>. I am a carman in the service of Swan & Co., packers, of Coleman Street—I have known Chapman two years—on Tuesday, 7th January, I removed some goods for him from the Fairlie Hotel, Amherst Road, Hackney—I met Chapman at the Kingsland Gate, and went</p>
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<p>there with my van—he got out of the van when we got to the hotel, and went into the house—they came and opened some gates, and I drove into a yard at the back—that was about 6.30 in the evening—I loaded the goods—Chapman was present and assisted, with two others—it took ten minutes or a quarter of an hour to put them into the van, and then Chapman told me to drive to Chiswell Street—the goods were unloaded there, and carried down into the basement—it is fitted as an office—I finished about 9 o'clock—I was not paid that night—I called the next day, by Chapman's directions, and he gave me 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for myself—he paid Jemmett for the van—he is a master carman and he borrowed the van of my master as he had not a van of his own—I took some goods for Chapman to the Nine Elms Station, about two years before that—I told him I remembered going for him, and he said he believed I did—he remembered me—I was in the service of Swan & Co then.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. I have not done anything for him since that time till this transaction—I have done a little job once since, on 7th February—he did not know my name.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-161" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WINSLOW</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Kaffery & Co., carmen, of Milton treet—I have known Chapman about nine months—my master did work or him now and then—I have taken goods for him on several occasions—n 8th January I took some goods for him from Chiswell Street to Burton's sale rooms—I packed the goods in the cart, they were brought out of Chapman's place—I took three journeys—Mr. Chapman told me where to go and sent a man with me—I saw him on each occasion when I came back for a fresh load—I have done one job for him since.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. Mr. Chapman's place is a regular place of business, a basement office.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-162" type="given" value="AMOS"/>AMOS WALLER</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Mr. Burton, of the Broadway, Ludgate Hill—he has sale rooms there—I have known Chapman for many years—on 8th January I received a quantity of goods from him for the purpose of sale—they were afterwards seen by Mr. Green at our premises—Chapman called to say he was going to bring a quantity of goods, and that he should require an advance on them—he said they were at his own place, but he did not say how he had got them—I advanced 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. after the goods had been delivered—the first load that came was some flannels, upon which I advanced him 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I gave him this cheque, and after the goods were delivered he came and received the rest of the money—I gave him two cheques, one for 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and one for 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there were three deliveries—these cheques are endorsed by Chapman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>. Chapman had dealt with us for ten or twelve years in one way or another—we have sold goods and made him advances—I always found his dealing perfectly correct and straightforward—there was nothing irregular or improper in his conduct on this occasion—Chapman did not say at that time anything about Messrs. Hall & Co.—he did when the detectives were there—375
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would be a very fair price for the goods—350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was the advance we made—there were some waterproof capes sent with the other goods—when he brought the goods in I went through them and made them come to 325
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., including the water
<lb/>proofs, when Chapman came he said "I want 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.," and we let him have 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. more than the advance really would have been—if he had paid 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the things it would have been a fair price, leaving himself a profit—he asked me that they should be well advertised, and</p>
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<p>according to his instructions I advertised them, with the lengths of the pieces and the full description which he gave me—this is the catalogue formed according to his instruction—it includes other goods as well—I think anyone seeing that catalogue would recognise the goods—all three of the cheques were paid on the 8th—on 2nd or 3rd January, a man named Woolf called at Mr. Burton's and showed me some patterns of flannels, and I afterwards discovered that they were the same flannels that Mr. Chapman sent to me—Woolf said he had bought the flannels, and I said "Who is selling these goods?"—he said they were sold for a Glasgow house, and they had a quantity of black goods that they should offer—he said he had paid 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a yard for them, but as a matter of fact the purchase was not completed, because the Scotch invoice did not turn up—Mr. Woolf still has the patterns in his possession—he gave me to understand that if all had appeared right to him he would have bought them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> There were forty waterproofs, worth about 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—we have sales once a fortnight, and issue catalogues and advertise—we don't always describe things—Mr. Woolf is one of the firm of Woolf and Flattou, of Whitecross Street—his private house is in Brushfield Street—I knew they were patterns of these flannels because I saw the places they were out from, and I compared one or two pieces—we had not the goods when he brought the patterns, but I have had them since and compared them—Mr. Woolf saw the advertisement in the paper and came up and identified them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-163" type="surname" value="HENWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-163" type="given" value="PAUL"/>PAUL HENWOOD</persName> </hi>. I am a colonial merchant, and oarry on business at 12, Lime Street—I have no shipping office at 154, Leadenhall Street—I don't know anyone named Stevens connected with my business—I did not authorise anyone, in December last, to buy of Johnson & Fairie, of 19, Old Change, any goods of any sort—I am known to Cook & Sons, of St. Paul's Churchyard—I dont know anything of either of the prisoners.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-164" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-164" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT CHILD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 23rd February I took Chapman into custody at his house at Tulse Hill—T read the warrant to him, and he said "I bought the goods, I did not know they were stolen; I advertised them for sale in three or four different papers, and I gave Spittle all the information."</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PROUT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received a good character.</hi>
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<interp inst="t18730407-288-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHAPMAN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-288-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-288-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>*—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18730407-288-punishment-20" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-288-18730407 t18730407-288-punishment-20"/>Five Tears' Penal Servitude each</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FOURTH COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, April</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1873.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-165" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>Robert Malcolm Kerr</persName>, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES EASTWOOD</hi> (18)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18730407-289-offence-1 t18730407-name-167"/>George Gill</persName>, and stealing from his person a watch and chain and a scarf pin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SAFFORD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SIMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-168" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-168" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE GILL</persName> </hi>. I formerly lived at 243, City Road—I am a pawnbroker, out of business—on 22nd March, about 12.5, I got out of a cab to go home—I settled with the cabman, and just buttoned my coat up—I had a watch and chain in my waistcoat pocket, and my scarf pin in my scarf—I had just started on my way home when I received a blow on the nose which knocked me down, and I fell on my head, and became almost senseless—a crowd of young fellows got on top of me, and endeavoured to pull my coat off—they nearly broke my finger with trying to get my diamond ring off—I had just pulled my glove off—when I got up the parties said "Have you lost anything?"—I said "It is gone!"—I did not miss the watch and chain</p>
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<p>and pin until I got home—the value of the gold watch and chain was about 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I am confident I had it upon me—I was bruised all over, and not able to move; I could not get my hat on next day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-169" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-169" type="surname" value="POTTINGER"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-169" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN POTTINGER</persName> </hi>. I live at 23, Sidney Street, and am a trimming maker—on 22nd March, Saturday night, I was in the City Road, about 12 o'clock—I saw the prisoner and five or six more there—I saw the prosecutor also—they were at the back of him—they surrounded him, and the prisoner rushed into him, and knocked him down with his right shoulder—he fell, and one not in custody snatched his watch and ran down Nelson Street.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This occurred near the Vestry Hall, and it was very light indeed—I saw the watch and chain—I was standing opposite him, about 2 yards from him—ho was about a quarter of a yard from the wall, and I was against the kerb—they ran away—I went to look after the one that ran away with the watch, but he had got out of sight—when I got back, the prisoner was picking up the prosecutor's umbrella, and there was a woman there—I helped him to get up—the prisoner is the only one I have sworn to yet, because he is the one I saw rush at him and knock him down—none of the others have been taken on my information, because I have not seen them since—I did not see the prisoner strike the prosecutor at all.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you walking the same way?
<hi rend="italic">A:</hi> Yes, I was going home—I did not see the cost ripped open, and all the grand jewellery exhibited.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-170" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-170" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-170" type="surname" value="RANGER"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-170" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN RANGER</persName> </hi>. I live at 12, Windsor Street—I was in the City Road on 22nd March, about 12.5—I saw the prosecutor there—some men met him—I recognise the prisoner as one of them—the prosecutor's coat was rather open—I was going down the road and Gill was coming up—four or five
<hi rend="italic">chaps</hi> came behind him, end one knocked against his shoulder; that was the prisoner—I helped to pick him up—I saw the prisoner hit him—I saw the prosecutor's coat open after he was down—I did not see anything done to his pockets—I saw him home—I was not concerned in the robbery.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There were five or six men—I saw the prisoner run up Nelson Street; the others went down towards the Eagle, back again.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18730407-name-171" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-171" type="surname" value="MARTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-171" type="given" value="CHRISTOPHER"/>CHRISTOPHER MARTIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N</hi> 473). I took the prisoner on the Sunday afternoon.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-172" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-172" type="surname" value="EASTWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-172" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN EASTWOOD</persName> </hi>. I live at 14, Grosveno Street, Islington, and am the prisoner's mother, and the wife of Edwin Eastwood—on the night of 22nd March my son came home at 11 o'clock—I saw him in bed that night—he did not go out again until the Sunday morning at 10 o'clock.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Mrs. James was in the room when we had our supper—it was 1 o'clock before we went to-bed, by the church clock—my son sleeps in the same room with me, on an iron bedstead, with his little brother.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18730407-name-173" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18730407-name-173" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-173" type="surname" value="JAMES"/>
<interp inst="t18730407-name-173" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN JAMES</persName> </hi>. I live in the same house as Mrs. Eastwood—on Saturday night, 22nd March, I saw the prisoner first about 11 o'clock, in his mother's room—my room is the top back room, and both rooms are on the same floor—I often go into Mrs. Eastwood's room—I did not go out of the house again that evening, nor did the prisoner—I saw him asleep in an arm-chair at 1 o'clock, when I left their room and returned into my own—the prisoner's mother asked me to take supper with her.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> My lodger's clock on the second floor struck one when I went to bed.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I am confident as to the identity of the two prisoners—the two not in custody held me down while Webb rifled my pockets—I was senseless almost with the blow—I had had three sovereigns on me on the evening previous, but I had paid it away—I followed Webb without a hat on through Princes Square, and he took his glazed cover off his cap and put it on my head—I took the cover off and hit him on the face with it—a policeman came round the corner, and I gave him in custody at once.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> At the Police Court I swore positively that a person named Johnson held me down—Johnson was in custody with these two men—I fixed upon., him—I do not know Johnson as the son of a timber merchant living at the Ferns, Clapton—Johnson was discharged.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by Webb.</hi> I stated at Leman Street Station that I lost three sovereigns, but it was a mistake; my head was off my shoulders almost—I did not swear before the Inspector and Mr. Lushington that this robbery occurred at 9.30 at night.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman H</hi> 252). I took Webb as he was hastening into Cable Street from the direction of Princes Square—the prosecutor and he were together—as soon as he saw me he turned back, met the prosecutor, took the
<hi rend="italic">glace</hi> off his own cap and placed it on the prosecutor's head—I stood still and they both came up to me—the prosecutor said he had been robbed of a watch, a hair guard, and three sovereigns—I told Webb he would have to go to the station—he said he had neither got the watch nor knew nothing about it—I asked the prosecutor whether there were any more with him, and he said there were four others—he gave me a descrip
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I took Fryer the next day, Wednesday, the 19th—he had his hand in a sling—I have ascertained that he was, an out-door patient for three days at the London Hospital—any longer I cannot speak for.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Webb's defence.</hi> I am as innocent as a child.</p>
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