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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>DAKIN, MAYOR.</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, June 5th, 1871, and following days,</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-1" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DAKIN</persName>, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; Sir
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-2" type="given" value="JOHN BARNARD"/>JOHN BARNARD BYLES</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WARREN STORMES HALE</hi>, Esq., Sir
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-8" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS GABRIEL</persName> </hi>, Bart, and Sir
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-9" type="given" value="JAMES CLARKE"/>JAMES CLARKE LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Bart, M.P., Aldermen of the said City; The Right Hon.
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-12" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND"/>WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND COTTON</persName> </hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-13" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Esq., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
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<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM HALSE GATTY JONESM</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-16" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER CROSLEY</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">DAKIN, MAYOR EIGHTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, June</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LAXTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">After the case had proceeded for some time, some notes and documents which were necessary to the case, not being forthcoming, and no notice to produce them having been given, the Jury were directed to find a verdict of.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have frequently seen the prisoner—she, and no one else, was in the habit of coming from Mrs. Stewart—I had paid her different sums at different times during the present year—I did not know that she could not write—I saw her write her name very indifferently, not such a hand as that on the cheque—I had no reason to suspect the cheque to be forged at the time I paid it—I took particular notice of the person presenting it, from the alteration in the figures and the general character of the signature not being so good as Mrs. Stewart's—if it had been to any one but the servant who usually came, I should not have paid it—I should say it was paid about 11 o'clock in the morning.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was in the morning that I sent for the cheque-book—I received it from the prisoner in my dining-room—I believe I put it into my desk at once; I was writing at the time—I use my desk every day—it is possible that I may have gone out, leaving it open—the prisoner came into my service in January—she had previously been with Mr. Hyam, of Westbourne Terrace, where she had been living five years and a half—I had a very good character with her—there are other servants in the house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I had good characters with them.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I asked her for the keys and she gave them up at once—she seemed very much put out about the charge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character from Mr. Hyam, of Westbourne Terrace.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., from
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<hi rend="italic">Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Eighteen Months' Improsonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Six Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Two Years' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLNY</hi>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-40" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am head barman to Mr. Rudkta, at the Groffins in the New Meat Market—I have been in his employment about three months—the Griffins stands at the corner of the market, facing Charter House Street, In what is called the "A" avenue—the entrances to the house are in the mar
<lb/>ket—the entrance where the
<hi rend="italic">stuff</hi> is delivered is through the market gatts—on 4th May, some gin was delivered from Messrs. Nichobon & Co., at the Griffins—the gin drawn out from the cask which, stands in the van, into the gallon copper cans, which are very small at the neck—Fielding was the carman who came with the van—it was his duty to fill the cams, and he carried them from the cart as far as the door, and they were carried up stairs by another man, in the same employ—I had watch the delivery of the gin on the day in question—they commenced to take the him in about 3.15 on the afternoon of the 4th—I knew the prisoner by sight, as a beadle in the market—shortly before 4 o'clock he came to my master's place, and said How about the gates, young man may I close them?—I said "No, I think you had better leave them open till we get-the gin in which will not be long"—the gates are closed on that day at 4 o'clock, on other days they are closed at different times—he said "All right I" and went out—he came in agin shortly afterrwards and said "Young man, have you got a small bottle you can lend me?"—I said "No, we don't keep them in this house"—he said "Have you got a soda-water bottle you can land me?—I them lent him a lemonade bottle, with a flat bottom—I first gave it to him with
<lb/>out a cork—he asked me to put a cork in, which I did—he put the bottle in his pocket, and went out—out—the bottle I lent him was like this one (
<hi rend="italic">pro
<lb/>duced</hi>)—I believe this was the one—the one I lent him had "Culver house" on it the same as this—I waited in the bar a moment or two, and saw the man go out with the empty cans they fetched the gin in—I jumped over the bar, and went up a few star is, and looked out of a window which com
<lb/>manded a view of the cart—I saw the distiller's man fill a can and bring it in the market gates—I could not see any more from that window, so I went to another window and looked out—I saw the man again with the can—he placed it on the ground, and turned his back towards it, to look out of the</p>
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<p>market, at his cart—I then saw the prisoner coma tip the avenue, where he turned down in the first place—he stood behind the can, and looked round each way, put his hand in his pocket, and took out the bottle, took out the cork, and placed the bottle in the can—I got down from the window, think
<lb/>ing I would go and catch him in the act, but I afterwards got up to the window again, and saw him putting his hand in his pocket; whether he had the bottle in it or not I can't say—I then went to the manager, and gave him information—I went out to see if I could find the beadle Roberts—I went up to the gates to see whether he had gone out of the market—I met him in the market as I was going back—I said "Mr. Jones wishes to see you"—Mr. Jones is the managing man—he said "Mr. Jones, what does he want me for?"—Mr. Jones then came up, and I heard him ask the prisoner for the bottle of gin he had in his possession—the prisoner said "What gin?"—Mr. Jones said "Come back with me," and he went back—I can't say that he was given in charge at that time—he was afterwards taken to the office of Mr. Stevens, the superintendent of the market, and searched, but no gin was found upon him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I should say all this occupied about twenty minutes; from the time he came in and spoke about the gates to the time that he was searched—I am not in Mr. Rudkin's service now—I left last Wednes
<lb/>day—I was only there three months—I never had any dispute with the prisoner—when the gin is in the copper vessels, and is taken into Mr. Rudkin's place, there is someone to mark them off with a chalk mark, and to see that they are full—if I saw that the cans were not full I should call attention to them—I did not see any of the cans not full on this day—I have not the slightest doubt that the bottle will go into the mouth of the can—the can is about 4 in. in diameter, and the bottle is about 2 in.—it will go in easily, I should imagine—I looked out of two windows—they both have ground glass; it is ornamental ground glass—you can see through very easily where there is a star—from the time I left the window till I met the prisoner in the market, and told him Mr. Jones wanted him, I should imagine was about five minutes—I only ran from the top of the house, and out to the market gates—I don't know whether Mr. Rudkin is here—on the occasion of the prisoner being searched no one gave him in charge—he did not ask to be given in charge—he said "Do you give me in charge for having the giu?"—that was when I stopped him—he was asked about the gin he had in his possession, and he said "What gin?" and I suppose some
<lb/>thing more was said, and he said "Do you give me in charge?" like anyone saying it defiantly, daring him to do it—he was taken to Mr. Stephens' office—he insisted on being searched—I don't know whether there is anyone from Nicholson's here—I believe Fielding is here—I don't know that Field
<lb/>ing took any part in the stealing; that is a thing I know nothing at all about—he was looking after his syphon, or anyone might have put a can under, and drawn off a pint of spirits in a moment—he never ought to have left the tap—he brought it from the cart, and another young man took it up stairs—I don't know a witness named Anglis at all, not by name—I was in Mr. Graves' service, in Church Street, Edgware Road, before I went to Mr. Rudkin's—I gave him notice the day before I left—he said he was going to make an alteration, and he has got a female now in my place.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> No fault was found with me—he has offered to give me a good reference if I apply for it.</p>
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<p>4th May, the prisoner was brought to my office, and charged with stealing gin—he was searched, but nothing was found on him—I gave instructions to a constable named Hart up to go and make inquiries of a labourer who lives in the neighbourhood of Newgate Street, about a third of a mile from Mr. Rudkin's—Hart up brought a bottle back with him with some gin in it—I gave that bottle to Mr. Rudkin on the following evening.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The prisoner was one of the market constables—there are a number of constables there—he has been in the service about two years—he was only a night watchman at first, and he was afterwards made into a day constable for his good conduct—he was very strict in seeing that persons were summoned if they did not do their duty—he had been a police-officer before he came to the office—he had a good recommendation from the Commissioner of Police, and he has borne a good character up to this time—he was taken into custody on the following Monday, and this was on the Thursday—the bottle was brought to me on the Thursday, and I knew everything then that I know now—I had nothing to do with the prosecution.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I said before the Magistrate that he had borne a good character, the only circumstance against him was that he signed the atten
<lb/>dance book in the market, entitling to extra pay.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he correct that error on the following evening?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he corrected it without my seeing him at all.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-42" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HARTUP</persName> </hi>. I am a constable in the Metropolitan Meat Market—on Thursday, 4th May, Mr. Stephens gave me instructions to go to Anglis, a labourer, and I received from him a bottle with something in—I did not take the cork out—I saw it produced at the Police Court—I have no doubt that it contained gin—I gave it to Mr. Stevens.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The bottle contained about the same as it does now—I have known the prisoner about two years—he was a fellow servant—during the whole of that time he has borne a good character, and conducted himself properly, without any complaint against him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-43" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ANGLIS</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, and live at Oxford Arms Passage—on Thursday, 4th May, the prisoner came to me in the market and said "Take care of this bottle of gin for me;" and he handed me a bottle of gin—I put it in my pocket and kept it there about an hour—it was in my pocket all the time—I did have a drop of it—I took it out when I was in the market—when I put it in my pocket I went down the market—I was about a quarter of a mile from Mr. Rudkin's when the prisoner gave it me—the bottle I gave to Hartup was the bottle I received from the prisoner—I did not take it home—it was a bottle like this.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There was no one present but the prisoner when the bottle of gin was given to me—it was given to me in "B" Avenue—I am not sure that it was not A or C—I am not sure at all—I have not said that I thought it was a present—I have not been examined before—I was not examined before the Magistrate—I am William Anglis—I was not ex
<lb/>amined before the Magistrate at all, or asked any questions—I was not at Guildhall before Alderman Stone, to my knowledge—I don't believe I was there as a witness—I was not there to my knowledge at all.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-44" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FIELDING</persName> </hi>. I was a carman in the employ of Messrs. Nicholson, on the 4th May—on that day I delivered some gin at Mr. Rudkin's—I filled the cans and another man carried them to the spirit-room—I recollect putting one of the cans down opposite the door—I walked a little way</p>
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<p>from the can to watch my syphon—I went back again and looked at the can—I am not positive whether it was in the same state that I left it—in consequence of what I saw in the can I went back again to the cask and filled it up—that was in consequence of its not being full.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was not quite sure whether I omitted to fill it myself, and I went back and filled it—I am not in Messrs. Nicholson's employment now—I am suspended at the present time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-45" type="given" value="EDMUND"/>EDMUND POLLENDINE</persName> </hi>. I am clerk and salesman to Messrs. Nicholson & Co., the distillers, of Clerkenwell—I have tasted the gin produced, and I should say it is gin manufactured by our firm—it is some of the same gin that was delivered at Mr. Rudkin's.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have not had the management of this prosecution—our solicitors have—as soon as Mr. Nicholson heard of this transaction he said "We must prosecute"—I heard that from his own lips—I took a very small quantity out of the bottle when I tasted it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> Messrs. Nash, Field, & Lake, are Messrs. Nicholson's attornies.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-433-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, June</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUMPHREYS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORACE BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-49" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN COLE</persName> </hi>. On 10th April, I was assisting at the refreshment-bar of the Zoological Gardens, and served the female prisoner with a glass of sherry, which came to 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a crown, and I gave her 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—she drank part only of the wine, and went away—my suspicions were aroused, and I spoke to Mr. Trotman, the proprietor, by whose directions I fetched her back, and told her she had given me a bad crown—she said she was not aware of it—she was given in custody, with the crown.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-50" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK TROTMAN</persName> </hi>. I am proprietor of the refreshment-room at the Zoological Gardens—the last witness was my barmaid—on 10th April, she handed me a counterfeit crown—I sent her out, and she brought back the female prisoner—I told her it was a bad crown—she said she did not know it—I asked her name and address—she declined to give it, and I gave her in custody, with the crown—she said that she had no other money.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> She was alone.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-51" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS ROWLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant S</hi> 24). The female prisoner was given into my charge, with this crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—she declined to give any account of herself, and denied having any more money—I said "Give me your purse"—she did so, and I found in it a half-sovereign, 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 60
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., good money—she said that she received the 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in change for the crown—she was taken to Marylebone Police Court, remanded, and dis
<lb/>charged—she gave her name, "Johnson."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Her description was circulated among the constables,</p>
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<p>but I could not find out where she lived—I first heard the name of Williams when I was sent for by the Treasury solicitor—I knew she was indicted in the name of Williams—I saw them charged together at Clerk
<lb/>enwell Police Court—I cannot say whether she gave her name there as Williams—I had no conversation with her, or with the man.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-52" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi>. I am a detective officer, employed by the Treasury in coining cases—in consequence of information, I went with Fife, Price, Brannan, and other officers, to a house in Coldbath Square, Clerkenwell—the door was open—it was about 9.30 in the morning—we went up to the second floor front room—I opened the door, and found the female prisoner standing just inside—she said "You are wrong; next door, Sir"—I went in, and found the male prisoner in bed—I addressed him as Williams, and told him my name was Brannan, and he was suspected of coining, and I had received instructions from the solicitor to the Treasury to look after him as a coiner—he said "All right"—I found, in a cupboard, near the fire-place, a plaster-of-Paris mould for making half-crowns, the obverse and reverse sides complete, two galvanic batteries, three pair of iron clams, files with white metals in their teeth, as if recently used, a quantity of mixed metal, solder, filings of granulated metal, knives and scissors, with plaster adhering to them, bottles of acid, and plaster-of-Paris, in powder—under the bed was a bushel basket, full of plaster-of-Paris, broken up, which I believe had been moulds; the impressions were partly effaced; six counterfeit crowns, thirty-one counterfeit half-crowns, and a number of shillings and ten-franc pieces—I gave the room up to the landlady, with a request that nobody should be admitted till I returned, as I was engaged at Clerkenwell Police Court; but next morning, she gave me a crown, a half-crown, seven shillings, and these three letters—there were all the materials for making, colouring, and coating counterfeit coin, wires, screws, and porous pots—I compared the half-crowns with the mould, and they corresponded; they also correspond in date with a good crown I found there, and with the crown uttered by the female prisoner at the Zoological Gardens—the male prisoner said, in the female prisoner's presence, "The woman is innocent"—she said nothing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was a small room, with one bed in it—the male prisoner was in bed—he said "Don't hurt her; she is innocent"—I do not think he said "Don't hurt my wife," but I will not positively swear it—I have known him for years, and have had my eye upon him—I have not seen the woman with him, but I have seen her going to the house—I know her, but I am afraid my knowledge will not serve you much—I saw her two or three days before this—they only had one bed-room.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-53" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FIFE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). I accompanied Mr. Brannan—I found in a cupboard several bottles of acid, and under the bed a great number of broken moulds, in a large basket, and in a drawer four half-crowns, and two ten-franc pieces, all bad—this tin box, full of counterfeit coin, was in one of the drawers—I handed it to Inspector Brannan.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known the woman by sight about a fortnight.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-54" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY CHAPMAN</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of William Chapman, of 7, Coldbath Square—the prisoners have lodged there since 7th February, when the female prisoner took the lodgings—she lived with the male prisoner, in the back room second floor—she paid the rent, which was 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week—I was at home when the officers came, and received instructions from Mr. Brannan—I kept the room locked from the time the prisoners were taken—I after
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We had a satisfactory reference with the prisoners, from 6, Yardley Street—the prisoners represented themselves as man and wife, but I know nothing about it—I should not have had them there otherwise; I would not have disgraced the house—they lived together as man and wife, and passed by the same name—I have never seen either of them write, and do not know in whose writing these letters are—they were all in one enve
<lb/>lope, which had no address; it was blank.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that the letters could not be put in evidence, the writing not being proved.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that they were part of the</hi> res gestae,
<hi rend="italic">and that the Jury were entitled to see all the property found in the room.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered that as the male prisoner had pleaded guilty, the letters could not be given in evidence as against the female Prisoner.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-55" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This crown is bad, and this is the pattern from which it was made; these six other crowns are from the same mould—here are all the requisite apparati for making counterfeit coin—they could not be for any other purpose.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no evidence of possession by the woman, she being only indicted for the possession of the mould; and further, that she must be acquitted, she being the reputed wife of the male Prisoner.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUMPHREYS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of bitters, and gave me a shilling—I bent it, it was bad, and I rang for the landlord—I said "This is the second bad shilling you have given me this week"—he said nothing, but ran away—the landlord came, and I went to the door and pointed the prisoner out to him, running across the road—he had left his drink on the counter, and also the bad shilling—Mr. Hornby brought him back, and I told Mr. Hornby in his presence that he had given me a bad shilling—he said nothing.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He was running about forty yards from my door when I saw him first—I did not know him before.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">HUMPHREYS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-62" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY BURGESS</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the Elephant and Castle, Great Peter Street, Westminster—on Monday, 22nd May, the prisoner and a young man came in—she called for a half-quartern of gin and tendered a shilling, I put it in the test and found it was bad—she said to the man "She says it is a bad one"—my husband came in and said "Yes, it is a very bad one"—the prisoner put down another shilling, and that also was bad—my husband said "Where did you get this money?"—she said "At Mr. Eason's, the Queen's Head, at the corner of Marsham Street, in change of a half-crown."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> She had the second shilling in her hand—as soon as the man found the money was bad, he left her—the gin was left on the counter—my husband went with her to Mr. Eason's, she did not object in the least.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-63" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHK BURGESS</persName> </hi>. I keep the Elephant and Castle—about 11 o'clock on this night, I heard my wife say "This is a bad shilling"—I went in, the second shilling had then been tendered—I told the prisoner she would have no objection to accompany me to Mr. Eason's, which she willingly did—that is about 300 yards from my house—I called the four barmen together, and said in her presence that she had received 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in change for a half-crown for a pot of half-and-half about twenty minutes ago—that would be about 10.40—the man who served her said "She paid me with a sixpence, and I returned her 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change"—she pointed out the potman, who the said served her, but he said that he did not.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> No, I pointed out the barman.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> The man she pointed out said that he did not serve her, and then the potman spoke up and said that he had changed a sixpence—she then said that she had received two bad shillings from the barman, and I believe she said that it was false, and held that it was the barman who had served her.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The barman is not here, but the potman is—a pot of half-and-half would be 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and the change of a half-crown would be 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18710605-name-64" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18710605-name-64" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-64" type="given" value="HENRY JOHN"/>HENRY JOHN HENLEY</persName> </hi>. I am potman and barman at the Queen's Head—on Monday evening, 22nd May, at 10.40 o'clock, as near as possible, the prisoner came in and called for a pot of 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. half-and-half—I did not serve her, but after she was served, she paid me with a sixpence, and I gave her two penny pieces in change—another young man drew the beer, and I put it on the counter—she afterwards came back with Mr. Burgess and said that she had paid with a half-crown, which I said was not true.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There are four men on the establishment—I heard her say that I was not the man who served her—it is a large business; what they call a good drawing trade—about twenty people were in the bar at that time, but sometimes we have seventy or eighty—the last person I served before her was a male—I cannot say what change I gave him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-65" type="given" value="SOLOMON"/>SOLOMON ESTCOURT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 74). I took the prisoner at the Queen's Head—she said nothing to the charge—Mr. Burgess gave me these two bad shillings (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—the prisoner was searched at the station, and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper found on her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-66" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two shillings are bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate.</hi> I went to Mr. Eason's, my son was there—he gave me a half-crown—I paid for a pot of beer, and received 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, from a short, stout young man—I went to the Ele
<lb/>phant and Castle, and called for the gin—I was not aware the shilling was bad—I told Mrs. Burgess where I got it—I gave her another shilling, and she said that was bad also, and I was willing to go to Mr. Easou's.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-67" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18710605-name-67" type="surname" value="JOKES"/>
<interp inst="t18710605-name-67" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN JOKES</persName> </hi>. I know the prisoner—I have seen her twice—on 11th May, I was coming over Lambeth Bridge, met Margaret Ellis, and she said, "Will you come with me?" I said "Yes," and we went to the Queen's Head, and had a quartern of gin—shortly afterwards Charles Corbet, her son, came in, we asked him to drink, and he drank with us—the prisoner then came in, and said "Charley, do you want any supper?"—he said "Yes," and she gave him a half-crown, and I saw her put it down on the counter, and receive the change.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This was on 22nd May, between 10 and 11 in the even
<lb/>ing—it was after 11.30 when I got home—the prisoner came into the Queen's Head to ask her son for some money for the supper—I was standing at the bar—I did not notice who served her, but I think it was a rather stout bar-man, and not tall—the one who is here to-day is not the one who served her; I am sure of that; it would do me no good to stand here and tell such untruths—I came here because I heard that they had taken Mrs. Corbet, and I said "She is quite innocent."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you at the Queen's Head when you heard that?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I heard that she was taken for two bad shillings—I then went home—I did not wish to disgrace my parents, by getting into a bother with it—I did not want to get locked up, and disgrace my family.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long did you remain after the pot of beer was handed to her?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I drank out of it, and so did Charles Corbet, and others—the whole of the beer was not finished before she left—she went out, and wished us "Good-night"—I was standing at the door, wishing Margaret Ellis "Good-night," when the prisoner came back with a gentleman—I stood there talking, and the other young woman went and interfered—I went in, and said that I saw her receive them, and they said that we were connected, or in company—I said I was not connected—I did not speak to Mr. Burgess, but I said it before them all, and then I wont home, because I did not want to be locked up—I have seen her twice in my life; the other time she was with her son, who I have known two years—I said "Good evening, Mrs. Corbet"—I knew her name, because her son said "This is my mother."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> There was a good deal of talk about it, after she was brought back.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">H. J. HENLET</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you sec this young woman there, that night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not when they brought the prisoner back, but she had been there before, and a he drank some of the beer with the prisoner and her son—I did not hear her say what she says.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. BROWN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were there a good many people there when the prisoner was charged?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About three persons, one of whom said that she had</p>
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<p>been in his bar a week previous, and attempted to pan a bad shilling, and he doubled it up, and took no notice of it—the prisoner said nothing—the son was not there after his mother was brought back.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> Oh! what a story.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It was on a Monday, and, as near as I can judge, about 11 o'clock in the evening—I went into the house about 10.30—Ann Jones was with me—the prisoner came in about ten minutes after me, but her son was there when I went in—I do not know how she got the half-crown; her son must have given it to her, I believe—I did not hear them say any
<lb/>thing to one another—I partook of the beer, and so did Ann Jones—the prisoner passed it round to the people—I remained about twenty minutes—the prisoner left before me, and when she was brought back, Jones and I were going up Peter Street—we were about five minutes' walk from the Queen's Head—we went back, and the policeman said that we were both connected, and took me to the station, but the Inspector turned me out—Jones ran away—I had never seen the prisoner before, but I have known her son two years as a hard-working
<hi rend="italic">chap.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-69" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CORBET</persName> </hi>. The prisoner is my mother—we live at Westminster—I was at the Queen's Head on this night, and my mother came in, and asked me for some money—I gave her a half-crown, and told her to pay for some beer—she called for a pot of half-and-half, which came to 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave them the half-crown I gave her, and I saw the change, two shillings, and two pence.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I do not know whether she put the change in her pocket, or kept it in her hand, under her shawl—she asked me for some money for supper—I said "Here is a half-crown, get a drop of beer, and pay for the supper with the rest, and get a bit of fish and
<hi rend="italic">taters"</hi> as it was late—I did not ask her to get any gin—I was not there when she was brought back—I never heard of it till next morning—I came away with two young women, and shook hands, and wished them "Good-night"—I turned to the right, and they to the left, towards Peter Street—I walked up the street in which the Queen's Head is, and I could see the door of it a great way up the street—I did not go with my mother from the Queen's Head to Mr. Burgess—I never saw her after she loft the bar—I never went outside the door with her—I was surprised that I did not get any supper that night, and I sat up till 2 o'clock—I did not know whether my mother had met my cousin, and gone out nursing; she does sometimes—I know Ann Jones—I am not keeping company with her—I know Margaret Ellison, in the same way; neither of them come to my house.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">J. BURGESS</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). I know Corbet by his coming to my house the following day.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUMPHREYS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Protecution.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of gin and peppermint—the barman, Capson, served her, and I saw her give him a bad shilling, which he gave to me, without my losing sight of it—I said "This is bad"—she did not answer—I called my father, and told him—she was allowed to go, but we kept the coin.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-73" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HUGHES</persName> </hi>. I keep the Admiral Keppel—on 9th May I received this bad shilling from my son—I told Malyon it was bad, and she asked for a half-pint of beer, and put down a penny, but I refused to serve her, and she went away—I went out, and met Knight, and told him to follow her—I also followed, and saw her with Martin, hardly 400 yards from my house—I followed them to the Gloucester, public-house—they did not go in there—I saw them both taken—I gave up the shilling at the station—Malyon then said that she never saw me before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Malyon.</hi> I never saw you before.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> When you left the shop, you never got out of my sight, except that you went into the Pelham and came out again.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-74" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL KNIGHT</persName> </hi>. I live at 81, Fulham Road—on Tuesday evening, 9th May, Mr. Hughes pointed Malyon out to me, and I followed her—I after
<lb/>wards saw both the prisoners together, 200 or 300 yards from the Pelham Arms, where Malyon went in—I followed them through several streets, pointed them out to the police, and they were taken.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Malyon.</hi> You never saw me with this man; I do not know him, he is a stranger to me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-75" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ACKRELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T R</hi> 4). I was on duty in Gloucester Road—Knight pointed out the prisoner to Aherne, and we followed them—I stopped Martin, and told him he was suspected of having counterfeit coin in his possession—he put his hand to his mouth, and said "Here is the b——
<hi rend="italic">poke,"</hi> and shoved something into his mouth—I saw tissue paper in his hand—I seized him by the throat, and felt him swallow something; the other sergeant caught hold of him, and almost choked him, and he spat out three florins and a shilling, all bad, and this piece of tissue-paper, into the sergeant's hand, and said "That is all I have about me"—at the station I found this other bad florin in his coat pocket, and a halfpenny—I received this coin (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from Mr. Hughes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-76" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT AHERNE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T R</hi>). I was with Ackrell—the pri
<lb/>soners were pointed out to me, walking and talking together—I took Malyon, and told her she was charged with uttering a shilling, at the Admiral Keppel—she said that she knew nothing at all about the man; she never saw him before.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-77" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These four florins are all bad, and from the same mould; the shillings are also bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Malyon's Defence.</hi> I am quite innocent; I do not know this man.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-80" type="given" value="HENRY MILL"/>HENRY MILL SPARHAM</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor, of 4, St. Beuet's Place, Grace-church</p>
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<p>Street—the prisoner came to me at the beginning of March—I had known him for some years—he said that he was doing a good business as a watchmaker; that he was patronized by Lord Lindsay, and asked if I could get him a partner—he made it appear so good that I took some trouble about it, with a view of getting him a partner—about ten days afterwards he brought me a bill for 62
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and asked me to get it discounted for him—I did, and he had the money—about 25th March he brought me this bill for 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and asked me to get it discounted—it purports to be accepted by Lord Lindsay—I did not undertake immediately to get it discounted; he gave me some references to two or three opticians—I sent my clerk to make enquiries, and after that wrote to my client, who had discounted the previous bill—I remarked to the prisoner that the bill was not made payable at a banker's—he took it away, and brought it back two or three days after
<lb/>wards, and said his lordship declined to make it payable at a banker's, as he did not accept bills, and if he could not make use of it in that way, he was to bring it back again—ray client afterwards discounted the bill—I told the prisoner I would discount it if he would deduct the amount of the run
<lb/>ning bill, and upon those terms it was done—he had about 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at that time—the bill was dishonoured.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have known the prisoner five or six years—he is mar
<lb/>ried, and he told me he had children—I don't know how many—he is a watchmaker—I have acted for him as a solicitor—I did not know that about this time he was very much pressed by his creditors for money—I had a high opinion of him, or I should not have taken any trouble about the bill—I never heard of a person named Darby till I saw him in this case—I don't know that he is a witness in this particular case; I have seen him here.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD LINDSAY</hi>. I live at 47, Brook Street—I have known the prisoner about a year—I have employed him to make astronomical instruments—this bill was not accepted by me—it was not presented to me—I heard of it before it was due—I had not given the prisoner any authority to sign my name—this is not my signature.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I perfectly believed in the prisoner's honesty till this bill was presented to me, and in his skill as a workman—I knew nothing of his private matters, except that he once asked me to lend him some money, which I did, about a month before one of these bills became due—I lent him 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">here stated that he could not resist the evidence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">There were two other indictments against the Prisoner.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SHEILL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THORNE COLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<p>then compelled to let the prisoner go—the blow broke my arm in two places, and fractured the centre bone in three places, and blood flowed—both the men escaped—I next saw the prisoner on 5th May, in the Wor
<lb/>ship Street Court-yard—he was amongst a number of others—I identified him, and picked him out readily.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There were seven or eight men placed in the yard—I don't know whether there were any policemen amongst them—I can't say whether the officer in the case was present—the men were all of the same height as near as possible—I did not indentify the prisoner by his clothes—he had light clothes on then—when I was attacked he had dark clothes—there were several officers there when I picked him out, five or six in uniform—they were not standing near me, they were at the door—I walked down the row of men once, he was in the centre—I was perfectly sober on the night I was attacked—the transaction might have occupied half a minute, or a minute—we struggled—it was just in front of the public-house window.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> There was a full blaze of light from the window—I could see his face, because I turned his face to the light.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-84" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Servant N</hi> 22). On 17th April, about 5.30 in the morning, I was in the Hackney Road, and found this portion of a gold chain near Union Street.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was at the police-station yard when the prosecutor pointed the prisoner out—there were several officers there—I was standing by the door; there were other officers with me—I believe the gaoler was standing by the entrance to the cells, no other officer.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLE</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">referring to the case of</hi> "Campbell and Calbraith," Sessions Paper, Vol. lxxiii., page 455)
<hi rend="italic">requested that he might be relieved from addressing the Jury on the more aggravated form of charge, vis.: robbery with violence, as there was no proof that the prisoner in any way participated in this act of violence of the other man.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered it was a question for the Jury whether they were acting in concert in the violence as well as in the robbery.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Hall</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-89" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN TERRY</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman and clerk to Mr. Charles Brumlue, a drug merchant, of 9, Mincing Lane—he has also a warehouse at 8, Billiter Street—on Monday afternoon, 17th April, I locked up the warehouse per
<lb/>fectly safe—it was fastened with a patent padlock bar, and another lock besides, which locked the door—on the following morning, between 10 and 11 o'clock, I found the padlock had been taken away, and an old padlock substituted—I could not open it with my key—it was forced open, and I found that a box of saffron had been taken away—it contained about 2 cwt, and was worth more than 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there were three inferior qualities, but that would be the value, striking an average—I found a crowbar standing against a bag of seed—here is a piece of paper which was afterwards found in the saffron—it was torn from a piece that was in the warehouse—it has</p>
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<p>some of my writing on it—it was torn from this large piece—a port of the saffron was worth 45
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., per lb.; the lowest quality is about 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., per lb.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-90" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MOSS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective Sergeant</hi>). I received information of this robbery on 18th April—on Saturday, 22nd April, I received some informa
<lb/>tion from Mr. Gabriel, in consequence of which I went to his premises in White Street, Moorfields—after I had been there a short time, Robinson came in—he produced two parcels to Mr. Gabriel, weighing 14lbs. he was showing it to Mr. Gabriel, when I said to him "Robinson, how do you account for the possession of this saffron?"—he said "Well, I will tell you the truth"—he then told me that he had received it from Hall that morn
<lb/>ing—I said "Where?"—he said "At the public-house down the Bow Road"—I said "Do you know any other person in this matter?"—he said "These two parcels were handed to me by another person that was with Hall, and he rode as far as Whitechapel Church with me, by the tramway"—he said he did not know the man's name—I said "When are you to see that man again?"—he said "I have to meet him at a public-house facing King William's statue about 11 o'clock"—I asked him how he was dressed; he described him—I said "And when have you to see Hall again"—he said "After I have seen this man at this public-house; I had a sample given me of this saffron last Wednesday morning, and that is all I know of the matter"—I said "Very well, I will test your statement; consider yourself in custody, I shall take care you don't escape"—he walked before me to the White Bear public-house in King William Street—I there saw Adams,—I did not know him before; from what I saw I said to him "Did you give this man two parcels this morning?"—he appeared somewhat confused, and made no answer—I turned to Robinson and said "Is this the man that gave you these parcels?"—he said "Yes"—I said "I shall charge you with being concerned with Robinson and others, in stealing a large quantity of saffron, on 18th April, and also with receiving"—I then conveyed Robinson and Adams to the Tower Street Police Station—I did not nee that Adams went out from the public-house after he came in—Child and Downs were with me—I was looking after another person at the time—after lodging Adams at the station I directed Robinson to keep the other appointment with Hall—I went to Smith's public-house in Bishopsgate Street—Hughes came in, he had a conversation with Robinson, and then left—(Hughes was afterwards taken into custody, and has committed suicide)—shortly after, I saw Hall enter the public-house—I walked round to the same compartment that Hall and Robinson were in, and from some
<lb/>thing Robinson said to Hall, Hall said to Robinson "I thought there would be some mess in this job"—I then spoke to Hall, and told him that I should charge him with being concerned with Robinson, Adams, and others, in the stealing and receiving of this saffron—he said "Adams knows nothing more about this than carrying the parcels for me, I will take all the responsibility myself"—he said "You have been a little too fast in this; if you had not been so fast, you might have recovered all the pro
<lb/>perty"—I said "I can't help that"—I then conveyed him to the station and charged them—I think I ought to mention, perhaps, what caused him to make that remark; I had almost directly after the robbery given direc
<lb/>tions to a constable named Obee to call upon Hall, and Hall said he should have communicated with us, or something to that effect, but that I was too fast in the matter—he did not say anything about Obee—he said "You. have been too fast in the matter: if you had not been too fast perhaps you</p>
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<p>would have recovered the whole of the property"—after they were charged, Hall said he wished to make a statement—I took him apart, and he then said "The saffron was all taken to my house on the Tuesday morning (that was the morning of the robbery, the 18th), and you will find it there now, or rather it was there this morning when I left; if you don't find it there you must go to Hughes, he ought to know where it is"—he told me Hughes was to be found at 26, St. Peter Street, Hackney Road—I knew that—I afterwards went to Kenilworth House, Wellington Road, Bow, where Hall lived—there was a strong smell of saffron in the house, and I saw small traces of saffron about the passage and just outside the door—it was a wet morning, and the colour was running a little—I was accompanied by Childs and Downs—we searched the house thoroughly, and could not find the bulk of the saffron there—I then went to Adams' house, which is thirty or forty yards from Hall's—I there found three bags, containing about 150lbs. of saffron, in the kitchen—I saw Adams' daughter there, she showed me where it was—I had seen her in Hall's house a few minutes previously—I took the saffron to the station—I saw Adams, and told him that we had found three bags containing saffron at his house—he said "Well, it was not there this morning when I left"—I then saw Hall, and told him we had been to his house and found the saffron at Adams'—he said it was at his (Hall's) house that morning when he left—he said he had borrowed from Mr. Smith, the landlord of the public-house where I had seen him in Bishops
<lb/>gate Street, 166
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which he had paid over to Hughes on account of this saffron.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He said he had lent Hughes 166
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on four tons of saf
<lb/>fron, and that he had borrowed the money from Smith—Hughes called him
<lb/>self a drysalter and chemist—he had a chemist's shop, and was a dealer in chemicals—I have not made enquiries of Smith—I have no doubt that state
<lb/>ment is correct—Hall has since told me that he paid him with a cheque, and that I could trace that cheque—I can't be positive whether he told me that at first—he has given several statements to me, and I may have confused one with the other—I have not tried to trace the cheque—I think he said that Hughes had repaid him 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of the money—he did not tell me what he was to get from Hughes for the loan; he expected to get 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from someone else—he did not mention Hughes—he said he was to get it from Mr. Boore, his master—he is a chemist and druggist, at the corner of Artillery Lane, Bishopsgate—Hall did not tell me what he had agreed to pay Smith for the loan; he did not say he was to pay him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., in the 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I don't remember that—I would not be positive one way or the other—he might have said it—he has said it since, but not at the time—I had directed Obee to see Hall—Hall had not given me information on previous occasions—I can't say whether he has done so to the police—I never spoke to him before I took him into custody—he told me a great deal more than I have mentioned here—he told me subsequently that he had done all this by the direction of his master, Mr. Boore—he did not tell me that Hughes was the party that offered the saffron to Mr. Boore—I believe that was so, from other enquiries that I have made—I believe Hall has since said that Mr. Boore had told him to let Hughes have what money he wanted, and that he would be quite safe, as the saffron would be sent to his (Hall's) house as security for the loan—he also said that Mr. Boore had told him that he had bought it all, and had arranged to pay Hughes for it in two cheques, one on 29th April, and the other on 6th May—he also said that in consequence of his master's direc
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<p>he went to Mr. Smith, and had deposited two life policies with him as security—I don't remember his telling me that on 18th April Hughes called at Mr. Boore's, and that he (Hall) saw him, and told him that Mr. Boore was absent—he told me that Hughes frequently called at Mr. Boore's—I don't remember his telling me that the cheque which he gave to Hughes was actually handed to Hughes in Mr. Boore's house, or that Hughes told him that one bag contained 42lbs. weight of saffron—he told me 28lbs., in addi
<lb/>tion to what I have mentioned, had been sold by Hughes to a person named Goodrich—he said that Mr. Boore was to have received the whole of the saffron, but he (Hall) said "You can't have all, because 28lbs. has been sold by Hughes," not mentioning the name, I believe, and that Mr. Boore said "Very well, then the remainder you bring to my house, in 7lbs. and 14lbs., and I will have it all packed away in cases"—he said that in conse
<lb/>quence of that he had given a sample from the 14lbs. to Robinson—I have no recollection of his telling me that he had mentioned to his master that the police were enquiring about 100lbs. weight of saffron stolen from Bil
<lb/>liter Street—he said something about its being brought from the docks, but I understood that to have come from Hughes, that Hughes told Hall so; I would not be sure of it, but that is my impression—he has told me all through, that Mr. Boore had directed him to do all this—I knew that Obee had com
<lb/>municated with him beforehand—I don't remember his telling me that he had mentioned that to Mr. Boore, and that Mr. Boore said "We need not be afraid about that, because it has come from the dock"—I would not say it was not so, but I did not understand it so; I understand that that came from Hughes—Hall said his master had told him he had given 21
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., per lb. for it—I also understood that from Hughes—Hall told me that Mr. Boore had promised to allow his wife 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., a week, and to pay counsel for his defence; he did not say he would do that if he would not give information of these matters—he said that Mr. Boore had paid his wife 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., a week, and had paid for a solicitor to defend him at the Mansion House, but that after he had made some statement at the Mansion House, all moneys had been stopped—when he said I had been too fast, I understood him to mean that if I had not been so fast, he might have given me information in reference to it—I have mentioned all these matters to the prosecution—I did not mention them to Mr. Evans, the solicitor, but it has been made known, the whole statement, to the Commissioner, and persons concerned—there was a lot of matter that I did not consider I ought to have exposed—I would rather not have said anything about it, because it referred to another person not before the Court—I mentioned all that I considered necessary—I have not mentioned to the solicitors all that I have told you, they have only just come into the matter, therefore, I have not had an opportunity of going into the—I case with them; I have had the management of this matter entirely myself have communicated to other persons connected with the prosecution the information that Hall gave to me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who do you mean by "other persons?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The Lord Mayor, for instance, when the case was under investigation; that is what I mean—I was not aware these questions were going to be asked me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The first mention about Mr. Boore was in a letter I re
<lb/>ceived after the remand—in the statement Hall first made to me, he did not say a word about his master, not until the matter was under investigation.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-91" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT CHILD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>). I accompanied Moss to the White Bear, in King William Street—I saw Adams come in and speak to Robinson, and</p>
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<p>directly go out—I went after him, and stopped him, and said "I am a police-officer, I believe you gave the man that you have just now spoken to two parcels this morning"—he said "No, I did not; I have never seen him before"—I said "You must go back, and we shall see"—as we were going back to the house he said "I have seen him a few times before"—Moss has described what took place when I took him back—I was at the police-station with Adams when Hall was brought in—I placed Adams in the dock with Hall, and Hall said to him "You are all right, don't you fear; I will take all your responsibility"—I apprehended Hughes in the Mile End Road—I saw the bags of saffron, and in one of them I found the piece of paper which Mr. Terry has looked at.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Adams. Q.</hi> Did you not speak to me in the street before you apprehen
<lb/>ded me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I did not come up and ask you "Are you looking for any office?"—I did not see you till you spoke to Robinson—you did not say "No, thank you, I have an appointment to meet a gentleman at 11 o'clock."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Sergeant Moss conducted this prosecution at the Police Court—there was no attorney there for the prosecution—there were five or six remands—Moss procured the witnesses, and brought them there, and they were examined—Moss did not examine them, that I am aware of, nor suggest anything—I don't know who asked the questions—I did not hear any questions asked—when one witness was being examined, Moss suggested to Mr. Oke one question to be asked—I don't know when the attorney was instructed; I have never seen one—no attorney has communicated with me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>). By the direction of Sergeant Moss, on 19th April I went to Mr. Boore's warehouse—I did not see Hall there, but at a public-house, near—I called him out of the public-house, and said "Can I speak to you, Hall?—he said "Yes"—he came out, and I said to him "We have had a robbery in Billiter Street, Leaden hall Street, of a quantity of saffron, about 100lbs. weight; Sergeant Moss told me to come to you and ask you whether you have heard anything of it, or anything being brought round for sale; there was about 200lbs. odd lost, but in a rough way they have put it in the information about 100 and odd lbs?"—he said "No, I have heard nothing of the kind"—I said "There is 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. reward offered, 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the conviction of the thieves, and 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the recovery of the property"—"he said "Well, if I should hear of anything, or if anything is offered for sale, I will let you know"—I said "Let Sergeant Moss know"—he said "No, I will let you know"—I said "It makes no difference, what you let me know, I shall let him know"—he said "Well, as soon as I hear of anything being offered for sale, I will let you know"—I saw him again next day, and the day after—I called on him each day, Thursday and Friday, for the purpose of asking him whether he had heard of anything being offered for sale anywhere—he said no, nothing of the kind had been offered; he had not heard of anything; as sure as he did, he would let me know.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The last day that I had this conversation with him was on the Friday, the 21st, the day before he was taken into custody—I went to Mr. Boore's to enquire for him—I had known him for some time, being at work there—I did not expect to get the information from him; I thought, perhaps, it might be likely, by asking and making enquiry—I was sent there by Sergeant Moss, to make the enquiry—Hall has given me information before, but not information to detect anybody; the reverse—he told me of certain things once, and I went to make enquiry, and found out afterwards</p>
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<p>that it was no such thing; what there wan, he had—I don't know, as a fact, that he has given information to the police on previous occasions—I have heard that he has been a witness in a case; I don't know it as a fact—I believe it was a case where the parties were convicted, but I was not present; that is what he has told me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-93" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WARD</persName> </hi>. I live at 19, Christopher Street, and am employed by Mr. Edwards, a carman—on 22nd April, I went to Hall's house, in Wellington Road, Bow, about 1.30, and removed some goods—while there I saw Hughes, and his man—I saw them take some gunny bags out, and I saw them take them into Adams'—I afterwards saw them at the Mansion House—they looked the same sort of bags—I could not swear to them—I only saw two removed; they were taken from up stairs.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-94" type="given" value="JOHN WILD"/>JOHN WILD GABRIEL</persName> </hi>. I am a wholesale druggist, in White Street, Moor
<lb/>fields—on Thursday, 20th April, about the middle of the day, Robinson came to me, and offered two samples of saffron—he asked 32
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., per lb.—I sus
<lb/>pected the transaction, and asked him to leave the samples, and call again next morning—he left me the two samples that I have here; they are worth 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 45
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,—within a quarter of an hour after he left I sent off a commu
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I said "Well, I shall require 5 per cent, at all events"—he said he could not allow that—I said "Well, bring the parcels down at 4 o'clock this afternoon"—he said he could not bring them down then, but he would bring them the next day—I said he must give a fixed time, because Satur
<lb/>day being a short day, I should not have-much time to spare—he fixed for 10 o'clock—he came at 10 o'clock, and brought these two parcels of saffron—I had in the meantime arranged for Sergeant Moss to be at the back of the warehouse, in secret, and on a given signal the sergeant came forward—Robinson had just opened one parcel, at my dictation, and was just opening the other, when the Sergeant came up, and said "Well, Mr. Robinson, where did you get that?"—he said "I am selling it on commission"—Sergeant Moss then went into the rest, and I left it in his hands.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Robinson. Q.</hi> The day I brought you the sample, you asked me what was the price?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and you told me 33
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., per Lb.—I have no recollec
<lb/>tion of your telling me then that you had 14lbs., but it did not belong to you; you were selling it on commission; you gave me the quantity on the second day—when you came, on the 21st, it is very possible that I asked whether you could take any less per pound, if I took the lot; you said you would take off 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. per pound if I would take the lot, and I said "Very good, you can bring all you have got—I was anxious to get as much as I could.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-95" type="given" value="EDWARD RICHARD"/>EDWARD RICHARD GOODRICH</persName> </hi>. I am an oilman and drysalter, of 344, Mile End Road—I deal in very few drugs—I gave up to Sergeant Moss 28lbs. of saffron—I got that from the deceased man, Hughes, on 14th April—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the identical sample he brought to me on 14th April; the bulk was brought on the 19th, but I did not see it till the 20th—I gave 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., per lb. for it, less 5 per cent.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had had a good many dealings with Hughes, extending over three years—I looked upon him as an honest, straightforward trader—should not have bought this saffron of a stranger—I bought saffron of him several times—he called on me weekly, as a wholesale drag dealer; he</p>
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<p>had been calling round, I suppose, for four years—I had no dealings with him for the first twelve months—I had not made enquiries about him—he was a freeman of the Goldsmiths' Company—I was satisfied of his respectabi
<lb/>lity, or I should have had no dealings with him—I found that he was a wholesale drug dealer—I had large dealings with him in oil of lavender, and after this transaction occurred I requested to be furnished with the parti
<lb/>culars of it—I suppose I have paid him somewhere about 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have bought of him cheaper than this, I may say, in one respect—I did not know that the value of the saffron that I gave 28
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for was 45
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,—I know it now, from what I have heard here to
<lb/>day—I could buy a similar sample to what I have here, at 40
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,—at the time I bought it I told Hughes it was very cheap, and I ordered 7lbs. of him, and then increased it to twenty.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners Robinson and Adams, in their defence, alleged that they were merely employed by Hall to sell saffron on commission.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BOTTOMLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-104" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COLLIS</persName> </hi>. I live at 3, Greencoat Row, Westminster, and am fore-man at Mr. Downey's cab-yard, Buckingham Cottages—on Saturday night, about 12.30, I was coming from the yard, and as I got to the corner of Buckingham Cottages, three or four men rushed on to me—I was struck by home sort of weapon, which knocked two of my teeth out, and knocked me on my back—one of the men kneeled upon my throat, and the other took my money out of my right trowsers pocket, and they kicked me on both sides; I feel sore now—I could not say whether there were three or four men, they rushed from round the corner—the prisoner is the one that kneeled on my throat—I law him plainly when he got off—I saw his face from the lamp on the opposite corner—he went off towards the police-station, the others went the other way—I ran after the prisoner—I lost sight of him when he turned the corner of Rochester Row—I could not get along very well—I went across to the station, which was just across the road, and told a constable—he came out, and I pointed the prisoner out—he was then standing about, walking on the opposite side of the road—he had got on light trowsers, a brown coat, and a cap—I can swear he is the man that got off my throat.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I had lost sight of him, it might be several minutes when I spoke to the officer—the prisoner was not out of sight then—I did not point him out then, not till I had spoken to the officer a few minutes—I was very much hurt, and don't know to a few minutes how long it was—I don't think it was as long as ten minutes—he was not crossing the road when I showed him to the constable—he was on the pavement, on the opposite side of the road—we went down Willow Street—I pointed him out before we went down Willow Street—when I pointed him out, he set off and ran, and the constable after him—there was not a fight in Willow Street then, there was afterwards, when we went to look for the others—the assault took place about 100 hundred yards from the station-house door—it was about 1 o'clock when the charge was taken—I was very much hurt—I hardly know the time for a few minutes—I was knocked almost senseless, but I came to before he got off my throat—I could not see what I was struck with; it was something about the size of a hen's egg that came against my mouth—I might have said before the Magistrate that I was not half a minute talking to the constable; it was more than that; it was not ten minutes—I have not told anybody that the only way I could identify the prisoner was by his having light trowsers on—I said that was what he had on.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 49). On Sunday morning, about 12.45, the prisoner came to me—I was standing inside the door of the police-station—he did not point out anyone to me then—I went with him down Willow Street, and as we were standing in Rochester Row, at the top of Buck
<lb/>ingham Cottages, he pointed out the prisoner, who was then half-way across the road; that was about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour after he first spoke to me—I walked rather sharply after the prisoner, and as soon as he got to the corner, and saw me, he made a spring with his feet, and ran to Vincent Square, towards Douglas Street—when I got to the corner, he had crossed the road, and was coming up on the other side, to meet me—I caught him, and told him what he was charged with—he said "I have not done
<hi rend="italic">nothing,</hi> I suppose you want to make something of it"—a man left him just as I got to the corner—I handed the prisoner over to another constable, and went after the other man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was standing just inside the station, with two other constables, when the prosecutor came to me—I could not see anybody then—I went to Willow Street with him; there was a fight there; that fight was going on before I took the prisoner into custody—I went, with another constable, to stop the fight, and when we got back to the station the prose
<lb/>cutor was there again; you can see the place where the prosecutor was attacked, from the station-house door—he was walking when he came to me, and blood was running all down his clothes—the prisoner lives in Willow Street—the prosecutor seemed very nervous when he came up, and did not know exactly where he was; he seemed rather stupefied, from ill-usage.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> At night, you cannot see the place where the prosecutor was attacked, from the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-106" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HURST</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 313). About 12.45, on this night, the pro
<lb/>secutor came in to the station, bleeding from the mouth, and complained of being assaulted and robbed—I saw him point out the prisoner—I followed him, with Russell, arrested him, and brought him into the station, and searched him—his hands and knees were dirty with the mud of the road.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He appeared as if he had been fighting; he did not appear to be drunk.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-107" type="given" value="LEONARD"/>LEONARD TITCHINER</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's father, and live at 10, William Street—I have worked at the Gas Works for about forty years—on the night of 29th April, the prisoner left my house about 7 o'clock, after he had his tea—I saw him again a little after 12 o'clock—I was up stairs, in bed—I was very angry with him for being out so late, and having a little drop too much—we had some words, and he said he would go and get a lodging elsewhere, and he went out; that was somewhere about 1 o'clock—I did not see anything more of him after that.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was in bed when he came in—I generally go to bed at 7 or 8 o'clock—he was about half an hour in my bed-room talking to me, and about half an hour below, in the yard and about the premises—I have no clock or watch in my bed-room—I know the time by the sound of Big Ben and Miss Burdett Coutts' clock—I did not hear Big Ben strike—I heard the three-quarters—I never had occasion to lecture my son before for being late—I had no light in my bed-room—I did not see what condition his clothes were in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-108" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SCANLAN</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, of 14, Johnson's Place—I called on the prisoner about 7 o'clock on this Saturday night—we went to the Standard Music Hall, and stayed there till about 11.45—we then came straight up the Vauxhall Road into Willow Street—when within a few doors of his house he bid me "Good-night!" and left me—I should think that was as near as could be between 12 and 12.15—I and a man named David Jones had a quarrel, and stripped to fight in Willow Street—the police came and dis
<lb/>turbed us, and I ran down Keats' gateway, down the same yard where the prisoner lives—I there saw the prisoner
<hi rend="italic">rowing</hi> with his father—the prisoner and I left together, and went down Buckingham Cottages into Rochester Row—that was about 1 o'clock—I left him at the corner of Vincent Square, and went straight up Rochester Row.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I saw him come out of the house after
<hi rend="italic">rowing</hi> with his father—he came out with me—his father was on the landing—I did not see him, I heard him
<hi rend="italic">jawing</hi>—I did not hear what he said—I could not see into his room—I have known the prisoner since a little boy—we went to school together—we are great companions—I have been in prison four or five times, twice for assaults on the police, once for another assault, and twice for stealing; no other charge—I was the worse for liquor this night—I should think he was more than half an hour in his father's house—I daresay it was nearly an hour—he went in about 12.15—I don't know the time exactly—I did not hear the clock strike—I don't know at what time he was taken into custody—he was not present at the fight—he went out of the gateway and fetched my clothes—it was near I when he left his father's with me—he had been away from me about an hour—I had been having a row during that hour—
<hi rend="italic">jawing</hi> and altogether, I daresay it took that—the fight happened over 200 yards from the police-station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I am not doing any work now—I had seen the prisoner nearly every night' that week—I don't believe he knew I had been convicted—the last time was about two years ago—I had no hand in this robbery—the was not before the Magistrate.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUMPHREYS</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Cox. Q.</hi> Were not you standing talking to a man while the barmaid took the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I took it myself.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cox. Q.</hi> Did you see me drop it?
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<hi rend="italic">Cox.</hi> You searched me from head to foot, and I held out my hands, you looked on the floor, and there was nothing there.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I was searching you when he picked it up; there were three policemen in front of you, and it was impossible for the landlord to see you drop it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 261). I took Turner, and picked up this bad sixpence close to his heels—I searched him at the station and found a half-crown, a florin, a shilling, some sixpences, and 3 1/2
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-119" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN DAVIS</persName> </hi>. My son keeps a fishmonger's shop in Little Bell Alley—on 8th May, about 6 o'clock, I sold the prisoner a haddock, which came to 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; he gave me a shilling, I gave him his change, and he left—a little ser
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 116). I was in plain clothes—I saw the little girl running—she told me that the prisoner had passed a bad shilling—I ran and caught hold of him—took him to the station—searched him and found a good sixpence and 5 1/2
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I have been in India thirteen years, I left the regi
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to come by railway from Greenwich, and took these coins in change, I had no idea they were bad.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, June</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-132" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE RINGELSTEIN</persName> </hi>. I am a baker, of 53, Pennyfields, Poplar—about 9 o'clock, on 24th May, I was in a street in Bromley, with my wife—I saw the prisoner there—he said "What are you doing here?"—I said "Nothing at all"—he asked me for 2
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he called out "John," and went away, and two men came over the rails; one of them caught me by the throat, and the other took my watch and chain, and money—they ran away—I went after them—I caught one of them; the other came and threw me in the water, and I afterwards went back—I saw my wife with a lot of people, and a police
<lb/>man—he said "Do you see the man you gave the 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for a pint of beer, to?"—I said "That's the man," and gave the prisoner in custody—he was waiting there when I went back—my wife said "There if the man you gave the 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to," and I caught him directly.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman S</hi> 341). On Sunday morning, 23rd April, I was at the corner of a road, leading from Edgware to Great Stanmore—I saw the reflection of a fire in Canon's Park, where Mrs. Begg lives—I found it was a shed on fire—the fire was extinguished afterwards—I traced foot-steps at the time—on 24th April, about 2.30 in the morning, I was passing the house again—I found a window, on the ground floor, open—I had passed there about 11 o'clock, it was all secure then—I went into the room, into which the window led, and found the shutter bell on the floor—the shutters were unfastened, and the blind drawn up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The fire was early on Sunday morning, in a shed—the window was found open on the Monday morning—the footsteps I saw led from the gardener's cottage on to the lawn—I only traced three or four footsteps.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-136" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH ALLINGHAM</persName> </hi>. I am housemaid to Mrs. Begg—I closed the window of, the cloak-room, which was afterwards found open—I closed it about 8 o'clock on Sunday evening—I barred the shutters, and put an alarm bell on them—the prisoner had been a gardener at Mrs. Begg's—he had been into the house, and into the room where the writing desk was kept—he was only there on one occasion, and that was about five months before he left.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-137" type="given" value="ISABELLA MCFARLANE"/>ISABELLA MCFARLANE CHALMERS</persName> </hi>. I am living with Mrs. Begg, at Canon's Park—there is a room on the third floor of the house, in which I keep some birds—the window of that room looks on to a gutter, which runs round the house—I did nothing to that window on the Sunday evening—I don't think it had been opened that day—I know this pen-knife; it belonged to the late Dr. Begg—I saw it frequently—it was usually kept in Mrs. Begg's desk.</p>
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<p>drawer in Mrs. Begg's bed-room—that was six or seven months before it was shown to me by the police—I had not seen it in the desk before that—Dr. Begg was a physician—I think it is a knife usually used by doctors—there is a plate for the name, but no name on it—the knife I saw was exactly like this.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-138" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA BEGG</persName> </hi>. I am widow of the late Dr. Begg, and live at The Canon's—the prisoner has been in my service—I think he left in March—I recollect the burglary at my house—I missed some property of considerable value, and, amongst other things, a writing desk and a knife, which I used when I was in London, in the winter—we returned home on 3rd April, and from that time it was in the desk, I believe—I very seldom used it—it was the knife my husband used to carry in his pocket—I have no doubt about it, whatever—it was a Mechi's knife, and this one appears to be a Mechi's knife also—it is not particularly a doctor's knife—it had nothing to do with his profession; merely for private use—I don't recollect that I described it to the Inspector.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I used the knife when I was living in London, in the winter—I had the desk in London also—that was four or five months ago—I can't say positively that I saw it after we got back from London—I know I brought it back, but I can't say whether I used it or not—I missed, besides the desk, a magnifying glass, a paper box, a plated taper stand, and a double opera glass—there was a cheque-book in the desk, and a seal, with a crest on it, and this knife—there was no crest on the taper stand.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The desk was always kept locked—you will see it has been forced open.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-139" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL ROBERTS</persName> </hi>. I am gardener to Mrs. Begg, and live in a cottage adjoining the garden—I recollect a fire breaking out, on the Sunday morn
<lb/>ing, on the estate—I went to the fire—I left all my property safe—when I came back I missed some sugar in paper, a loaf of bread, and a small pistol, which the prisoner had given to me, some time before, when we were co
<lb/>servants—we had lived together at this cottage—whilst we were there we went over to Edgware, and bought a knife and fork each—this is my own knife, it corresponds with the one he bought—when he left Mrs. Begg's service he cleaned the knife, and put it in his box.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> We bought forks as wells as knives—we bought them at a stationer's shop, in Edgware, of a person named Bayance—it is about five or six months ago—I kept my knife in a cupboard—there were no other knives in the house—we lived in the cottage by ourselves, and when he left, I lived by myself—I kept the pistol in the bed-room—that was on the ground floor—there are no stairs, only two rooms—you had to go through the sitting-room to get into the bed-room—I was engaged during that day, and when I came back, I missed the sugar, and bread, and pistol—Robert Wardle was head-gardener, and is still—he gave the prisoner a good character—the prisoner showed it to me on the morning that he left.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-140" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH ALLINGHAM</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). My mistress had no knife of this sort in the house.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector S</hi>). I examined the premises at Canon's Park, after they had been broken into—the burglary appeared to have been committed by some person climbing on to a stone ledge, about 20 ft. from the ground, by means of the lack part of a pair of steps, and then climbing to the top of the house, on to a stone balustrade—the stone ledge is about 2ft. wide, and a person could go round three sides of the house</p>
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<p>upon that—the back part of the steps would enable him to get to the balustrade, which is 8ft. higher than the ledge—I found the attic window tied with a piece of bass—we suppose he got out at the bottom window—I afterwards went across the gardens, and searched in the boat-house, which is about 400 yards from the house—I found this writing-desk broken open, and the papers strewed about—I found this knife, which corresponds with the one produced by Roberts—I also found some sugar and bread, and some pieces of egg shell, and burnt pieces of wood, where someone had cooked the eggs—I found foot-prints on the garden beds, as if someone had walked with a naked foot, in the direction of the boat-house.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman S</hi> 186). I was on duty at the Midland Rail
<lb/>way station, at Mill Hill, on 24th April—about 3.50, in the morning, I saw the prisoner coming towards me, from the direction of Edgware—I asked him where he was going—he said "To London"—I asked him where he came from—he said "From Edgware"—I told him if he had gone up the Edgware Road, instead of coming to Mill Hill, he would have got to London sooner—he said he came there to see if there was an early train—he asked what time the train went—I told him 8.10—I walked about fifty yards with him, directed him the way to London, and he went away—he was about two miles from Canon's Park when I saw him coming away from it—I was after
<lb/>wards taken to the Court House, and picked him out from ten or twelve others—I am sure he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was not directed to go and pick him out—I saw a descrip
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<lb/>nize anyone—there is no gas there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I should think I saw him fifty or seventy yards off before I spoke to him; it may be more than that—I looked at my watch when he asked me the time—I could see very well.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was he carrying anything?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not that I saw; if he was, it was out of sight of suspicion altogether.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-143" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH STAFFORD</persName> </hi>. I live at Wandsworth—the prisoner lodged with me about eight or nine weeks before the burglary—he was away from the Thursday before the burglary till Monday, 24th April—the inspector came to me about a week afterwards—the prisoner had a latch-key—he owed me some rent at the time he left—he came in on Monday morning, about 10.30—he said a friend had given him some money, and he paid me 10
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<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector</hi>). I was with Sergeant Manton, and saw the prisoner in the Wandsworth Road, on 10th May, I told him I was an inspector of police, and wished to ask him some questions about a fire and a burglary at Mrs. Begg's—I asked him whether he had been formerly in Mrs. Begg's employ as gardener—he said "Yes"—I asked him where he slept on the Saturday and Sunday night, the 22nd and 23rd April—he said</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,"—I asked him where he got the 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., from, as he had previously stated that he only had a few halfpence in his pocket when he went into the baker's shop in Croydon—he said "I borrowed part from my sister, and a part I obtained by selling some books and other things at a shop"—I asked him where the shop was, and also his sister's address, as I should have to make enquiries as to the correctness of it—he then said "I did not get the money that way; I can't tell you where I got it"—I said "The landlady said that you had told her you had walked from Colchester, and had borrowed some money of a friend"—he said "I did tell her so, but it was wrong"—I asked him where his dinner knife was; he said he had sold it—I asked him where; he said he could not tell—I said "Your explanation of where you were on those particular nights appears to me to be very unsatis
<lb/>factory, and I shall take you for setting fire to the shed and committing a burglary at a cottage and mansion at Edgware"—he said "I can't help that"—as we were going to the station he appeared rather anxious to get his hand to his waistcoat pocket, and when we got to the station I still found him putting his fingers in—I walked up to him and said "What have you got in that pocket?"—he said "Oh, I have some keys" and he produced two keys—I said "I think you have something more there?"—he said "No, I have nothing more"—I put my fingers in, and ultimately pulled out this pen-knife—he said he had had it a long time—he was charged, but said nothing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I was cross-examining him nearly ten minutes—I found him a little nervous and anxious—I did not go with the intention of taking him in custody—I had suspicion of him, but I should not have taken him if he had given me a satisfactory account of where he was on those par
<lb/>ticular nights—there is no reward in this, and I don't expect any—it is not usual for us to get rewards when they are offered—we don't ask questions in every case, because it is not necessary—he had no friend present during the examination—I thought it necessary to ask him those questions—and if he had explained himself, I should not have interfered with him—my suspicions rose when he gave me a false statement as to where he slept on those nights—I had some suspicion before, but not enough to arrest a man—I found a certificate of good character upon him when I took him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did not go with a note-book and take it down—I just stood by and saw it done.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Eighteen Months' Im
<lb/>prisonment.</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, June</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Byles.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18710605-455-offence-1 t18710605-name-150"/>Samuel Lee</persName>.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEASLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONCKTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman L</hi> 167). At 4 o'clock in the morning of Sunday, 12th March last, I was on duty in Tower Street, Lambeth—the prisoner came up to me, and wanted to know if he could go into the station—I asked him for what purpose—he said he was tired of his life, and tired of walking about; he also said that he wanted to give himself up for a murder he had committed in Brompton, in August last, at some gardens called Gledhow Gardens—he said he had murdered a potman, Samuel Lee—I asked him why he had done it—he said "I owed him some money; he demanded more than I owed him, and we quarrelled; I went behind him, and took up a hammer, and struck him on the back of the head; with that, he fell; I struck him several times afterwards, and then left him for dead"—I took him to Tower Street Station, where he made a statement to the Inspector on duty—it was 4.15 when I got to the station with him—he was perfectly sober.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He did not tell me where he had been that night, or what he had been doing—he did not tell me where he had come from, or where he lived—he did, subsequently, to the Inspector—I have told you all that he said.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-152" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WHITNEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector L</hi>). I was at the station when the last witness brought the prisoner there—the constable said, in his presence, that the man had wanted to come into the station, to give himself up for the murder of a potman, at Brompton—I asked the prisoner why he gave himself up—he said he could not help it; he did it—I told him if he made any statement to me, I should take it down in writing—I asked him his name and address, and he gave it me, "Claude Woolley, aged 19, a painter, living with his father, at 24, Ranelagh Grove, Pimlico"—this is what I took down at the time, and he signed it—I took it down as he uttered the words—(
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi> "I wish to give myself up for the murder of Samuel Lee, at the third house in Gledhow Gardens, Brompton, about three weeks before the Police
<hi rend="italic">Fêete</hi> at the Crystal Palace. It occurred about 1 or 2 o'clock on Saturday afternoon. I was at work at No. 6, and went to pay him some money, when we quarrelled, and I picked up a hammer which was in the room, and struck him on the back of the head. I struck him several times afterwards, and robbed him of about 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and left him for dead")—At that time, I said to him "Shall I read this, or will you read it yourself?"—he said he would read it himself—he read it, and he cried very much—I said "Do you wish to add anything more?"—he said "I did not intend to murder him when I went into the house, and I left the hammer in the fire-place</p>
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<p>place in the same room"—he then signed it—I communicated with Inspector Palmer, who had had charge of the case previously.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> This was taken, I should think, half or three quarters of an hour after he came in, about 4.30 or 5 in the morning—he said he was tired, that he had been to Woolwich on the Saturday, to try to enlist as a soldier, but he was not tall enough, and that he had walked from Woolwich—I have not had any case of self-accusation of murder before—it is not uncommon—there are very few murders of any notoriety where something of the sort does not happen—I have heard sometimes of as many as four or five accusing themselves.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner was perfectly sober.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-153" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PALMER</persName> </hi>. I am Chief Inspector of the Detective Police—on the 19th or 20th August last, I saw the prisoner at a workshop on the estate in Bolton Gardens—it was on the Thursday or Friday after the body was found; that would be on the 19th or 20th—the murder was on Saturday, the 13th, and the body was found on Tuesday, the 16th—I asked the prisoner where he received his wages on the Saturday previous—he said "At No. 15, Bolton Gardens"—I said "What time did you arrive home?"—he said "About 2.10"—I asked him at what time he received his wages that day—he said "About 1 o'clock"—there were about ninety men that I had to see, who were at work on the estate—I was investigating the murder at that time—I knew where he lived; it was, I should think, about twenty-five minutes' or half-an-hour's walk, from 3, Gledhow Gardens—that was all that passed between us on that occasion—I was present at the inquest; it was held on the 18th, either Wednesday or Thursday—I think there was an adjournment—I was present on both occasions—the prisoner was not there on either occasion—I next saw him, to speak to him, about 11 o'clock on Sunday, 12th March last—he was, at that time, in custody—I had received a telegram, which caused me to go to the police-station at Kensington—he was in a cell there—I said to him "Do you know me?"—he said "Yes, you are Mr. Palmer"—I said "Have you been drinking?"—he said "No"—I said "Have you any pains in your head?"—he said "No"—I said "Are you aware of what you have been saying, and the serious consequences that may occur?"—he said "Yes"—I said "But no hammer was found"—he said "I left it there"—I said "Do you mean to say that it is true, what you have been stating?"—he said "Yes"—I said "I will fetch your father," which I did, and his father and brother had an interview with him—before that, I said to him, "What makes you make this serious accusation against yourself?"—he said "I could not stand it any longer; poor old Jack used to stand by the side of my bed at night, staring at me with those big eyes of his"—the interview with his father and brother took place in my presence—he adhered to the same statement—his elder brother spoke to him; his father was too much affected—I did not hear everything that passed between them, but I heard him make the remark that he could not help it, he had done it—I was present on another occasion when his father was with him, at the Hammersmith Police Court—I think that was at the second exam
<lb/>ination; the 28th March—his father had an interview with him, and he then said that he could not help it, that he had done it—his father said "I cannot believe it"—on 4th April, at the last examination, I asked him if he was hungry—he said "Yes"—he had had nothing since 8 o'clock—I sent him in some food, which he thanked me for, and as I was leaving the cell, he said "Mr. Palmer, have you found the hammer?"—I said "No"—he</p>
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<p>said "Well, I can't account for it; I always thought I left it in the room"—I may add that, on the day the body was found, Tuesday, the 16th, I searched the room, and was not able to find any hammer—I was not the first person there; it was some hours after the body was found; but I searched the house fully, and also the day following, but I found no hammer, or any instrument that would be likely to inflict the wounds—several persons had been there before me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> Some of the adjoining houses were searched, and the neighbourhood, and I was never able to find anything of the kind—the con
<lb/>versation I have spoken of I now depose to in the witness-box, for the first time—I did not say a word about it at the Police Court—I did not take it down in writing—I gave evidence at the Police Court as to going to the prisoner, and looking at the house—when I saw him and questioned him on the Thursday or Friday after the body was found, he appeared cool and collected—I bad not the slightest reason, from his answers or his appearance, to suspect him—he answered every question I put to him, and answered it truthfully, as I found out, about the payment of the wages, and so on—I ascertained that he did get home about 2.30, because I made enquiries about every workman—he did not say that after he received his wages, and before he went home, he dined in Sloane Square—he did not say where he had his dinner—I have never heard him say anything about that—I examined and questioned not only him, but about ninety workmen, and followed up any clues—I ascertained what men had been discharged, and made every neces
<lb/>sary enquiry—I found that two men had been discharged just previous to the murder, sixty or seventy at various times, but two shortly before—I endeavoured to follow up those clues, and I cleared up as to where they were on the day in question; there were other clues that I endeavoured to work out; there was one which I followed up for some time, and I found that he could not have committed the murder, he was too drunk to walk; that was not my only reason for foregoing my suspicion—the suspicion was, because he had called on the widow of the deceased a day or two after—I cleared that up, to my own satisfaction—there were other clues which I was following oat at the time, without any success—the doctor was examined at the inquest—the nature of the wounds was spoken of—I heard it suggested, by the doctor, that it must have been done with a hammer, such as a lather's or plasterer's hammer—the prisoner is a painter by trade—his father is a person of very great respectability; he is a sort of sub-contractor, he does the whole of the painting for Messrs. Spicer, on that estate, and was employ
<lb/>ing his son under him—in the course of this inquiry I have had every reason to rely upon what the father has stated to me—I said to the prisoner, at Kensington, "Are these the clothes you had on in August last, the day of the murder?"—he said "No, you will find my clothes under my bed," describ
<lb/>ing the coat and trowsers—I ultimately got a coat and trowsers from the house; they have been submitted to medical inspection, to the doctor who examined the deceased, for the purpose of ascertaining whether there was anything upon them—I did not get his boots.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I did not know the prisoner at all, until I made these en
<lb/>quiries in August—I have no means of knowing what clothes he actually wore on that Saturday; some clothes were given up to me—I did not mention the conversation when I was at the Police Court; no professional person was employed in the case there; I had to conduct the case myself—before I used it in evidence I took the opinion of the Soli
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<p>of the Treasury—at the time I put the questions to the prisoner it was merely to prove whether he was insane or not, and to test the accuracy of his statement, and I did not think I should be justified in using that as evidence after the prisoner was in custody at the Police Court; at the same time I thought it right to mention it to the Solicitor for the Treasury.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What caused you to ask the prisoner the questions you did, as to whether he was sober, or whether he had pains in his head?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was to test whether he was telling the truth, or whether he had been suffering from drink, or whether he was insane—at that time I had doubts about the accuracy of his statement—I found his clothes where he told me, under his bed—there was a deal of paint upon them, nothing but paint; I examined them myself, and took them to the doctor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-154" type="given" value="GEORGE HARRISON"/>GEORGE HARRISON ADKINS</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Drayton Tavern, Thistle Grove, Brompton—the deceased man, Samuel Lee, was a potman in my service—I was in the habit of supplying the workmen engaged on the estate, in which Gledhow Gardens is situate, with beer, during the week, and it was their practice to pay when they got their wages, on Satur
<lb/>day—Lee had been in my service about three years—he kept a book—the last time I saw him alive was about 12.30 on Saturday morning, 13th August; he was then in front of the bar—I had just given him 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of silver for change; it was mixed silver, half crowns and shillings; that was to enable him to give change to the workmen when he received his money to settle the weekly accounts for beer—I did not see his book—he went out with that money—he would have to receive, on my account, I daresay, about 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the workmen, on that Saturday—he did not collect money for anyone else, but he himself used to supply dinners to the men, which he used to give credit for, so that he had debts due to himself to collect, as well as mine—after he went out, on that day, I did not see him again alive—his ordinary time for returning would be about 1.30—information was given to the police that had not returned—on the following Tuesday, the 16th, in consequence of what I heard, I went to No. 3, Gledhow Gardens; a man named White fetched me there—No. 3 is very nearly opposite my house—I went up stairs to the ground floor, and there saw the body of Lee—he was lying on his back, in the dining-room, the back room, and this book (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) was by the side of him, close against his hand—I went round the other side of the room, and it appeared to me that there had been two parties standing opposite each other, by the mantelpiece—there were two footprints, and there was another footprint and a half, just the ball of the foot, without a heel, but there had been a good many cats running about the floor, so that they had disturbed them a good deal—the room was all covered with dust—a constable was sent for, and he examined them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The deceased was a small man, he was rather stoutish, rather a heavy man—I have no idea what he weighed—he was a very much heavier man than the prisoner—much stouter and bigger altogether—he might be a little taller.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-155" type="given" value="DRIFFIELD"/>DRIFFIELD WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am a carpenter, and live at 38, On slow Buildings, Fulham—on 16th August I went into the house, No. 3, Gledhow Gardens; it was an unfinished house, almost finished, but not quite—I went down the area steps, through the area door, and then up on to the ground floor—</p>
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<p>when I got into the house I perceived a remarkably disagreeable smell—I went into the back room ground floor, and there found the dead body of Samuel Lee, known to me as "Potman Jack"—we did not know his proper name on the premises—the door of the room was partially closed—it stood about a foot open—before I went into the room I saw the hair of a man's head, as I supposed, through the partially open door—I opened the door, went in, and found the body—upon this I went back to No. 6, and fetched Benham, a fellow workman, and told him what I had found, and I then sent for Mr. Adkins, the landlord, and he brought the policeman Large with him, and another constable—we went into the room, and they examined the body—I have known the prisoner about four year—I had seen him for some length of time—he was working at No. 6—I saw him the week before, and the week before that—I am not positive whether he was working at No. 6 on that Saturday, but I saw him several days during that fortnight, working on the estate—he has been working on the estate all the four or five years I have known him—the out-door workmen were supplied with beer by Lee—I have known Lee lend money to several workmen—Saturday was his usual pay day.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> At the time I found him in No. 3, anyone could have got in there—there was a sort of palisading in front of the area, with a gate, and you went down two steps into the area—there was a door entering the house that would have to be opened, and which I did open—there was no latch to it, it was a temporary fastening, a piece of wood inside—we work-men have a means of fastening a door, and we know the way to open it, by pushing in a piece of wood; but in this case the door was not closed, the shutter was down, and I put my hand through the opening of the door, and took it away easily enough—when you opened that door you went into the basement passage, which led to the staircase—there are several rooms on the basement, on each side of the passage, three or four I suppose—they are moderately large houses, perhaps about twelve, fourteen, or sixteen rooms—there are three rooms on the ground floor, two large rooms and a small one—the body was in the largest room, the one intended for the drawing-room—it has not folding doors, it has a separate door—the dining-room is in front and the drawing-room at the back, and the little room is at the side of the drawing-room—the front door was fastened by a wood button—you could only turn that by going inside, you could not get at it in the same way as the other—it was buttoned at that time—I had not been in that house, I suppose, for four months—I think no one bad been there for a month or two, it was left pretty well finished—I went there to see if I could find some article that I required to finish a job that I was doing at No. 6—this matter was a good deal talked over amongst the workmen—Jack was not a remarkable favourite, no more than a potman usually is—he was a very civil, kind sort of man—of course we talked about it in the usual way, and how it was committed—each had his own idea how it was done—I knew what the doctor had said at the inquest, about the blows, and about its being done with a hammer; that was talked about consider
<lb/>ably amongst us—I don't recollect seeing any of them imitate the way they fancied it was done, by taking up an instrument and showing it; they might it have done so—the prisoner has not been present with me while that has been the subject of discussion—we are in different lines of business; I am a carpenter—he would rather mix amongst the painters, of course—there were plasterers on the estate, men of all grades in the building line.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I should judge the deceased to be a man a little over forty years of age.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T R</hi> 1). On Tuesday, 16th August, from what I heard I went to No. 3, Gledhow Gardens—and on the ground floor there, saw the deceased lying on his back and this book lying on the floor, open, leaf downwards—I got my knife and got it up from the floor—I saw there were several wounds about the man's head and face, and his clothes were all smothered in blood—he was lying in a large pool of blood—I searched his pockets and found a sovereign in his right hand trowsers pocket, and a shilling in his waistcoat, through a hole in the lining of the pocket—Mr. Godrich, a surgeon, was sent for, and he examined the body in my presence—I had not turned the body over before he came—I searched minutely every place I could think of, to find what the wounds had been inflicted with; up the chimney and every place that could be thought of, but could not find any instrument—there are entries in this book of the name of "Woolley"—in four places, I think—there are no initials against the name.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I should think the deceased man's weight would be nearly nine stone, or from that to ten stone—that, would be about his weight, I should think—I weigh twelve stone—he was short and stout, but not over and above stout—I lifted him, not by myself, with assistance—dead people always appear more heavy than living ones—I noticed dust down the front of his clothes, and on the front of his trowsers, as if he had first fallen on his face; that was the appearance—I could not tell from the appearance of the floor whether there had been a struggle, because where he was, it was all blood—there was a great deal of blood where the head and shoulders lay, in fact the blood had run nearly four feet from where the body was—there were a few
<hi rend="italic">spatters</hi> of blood on the wall, as though it had spattered in three different places, on both sides and behind—his clothes were covered with blood all the way to the waist, all smothered in blood—there are five or six stone steps to go up from the road to the front door—is that distance elevated above the road—the back room looks out into a large garden at the back of all the houses, a large square—there is no road out there—I should think where the body lay would be 40ft. from the road, including the path—I looked in other places as well as in the house for the hammer—I made a minute search all about the place and in the gardens, every place we could think of at that time, and times after—I went in at the door just behind the landlord—two persons had been up to the fire-place; you could see the footmarks in the dust—one of those two appeared to have been the deceased, there is no doubt about that—there were the footmarks of two persons in the room.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-157" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS GODRICH</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, in Fulham Road, West Brompton—on Tuesday, 16th August, I saw the body of the deceased, at No. 3, Gled
<lb/>how Gardens, and on the 17th I made a
<hi rend="italic">post-mortem</hi> examination—perhaps I had better read the notes that were taken down at the time the
<hi rend="italic">post
<lb/>mortem</hi> occurred—the original notes are partly in my handwriting, and partly in my son's—I saw the body on the 16th August—I was fetched by a police
<lb/>man—on the 17th I received an order from the Coroner, to make a
<hi rend="italic">post-mortem</hi> examination—(
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi> "I found that the deceased was about 5ft. 3 in. high, he was well nourished, and apparently healthy; he was lying in a dried pool of blood, apparently dead three or four days; the right arm was slightly abduced from the body, the left arm close to it, both arms ex
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<p>the eyes were widely open, the right pupil somewhat dilated; the face, head, and arms, more or less covered with blood; also the back of the clothes; no blood on the clothes in front; there are several spots of blood on the wall, about four feet from the body; the black trowsers are covered with dust similar to that on the floor; the shirt is rolled up above the elbows"—I mean that his arms were bare up to the elbows—"He was a stout, healthy-looking man. In the front of the head there was a large, round, depressed wound, as though made by some blunt instrument, in the median line of the head; that had impli
<lb/>cated some of the bones of the nose; it was knocked in upon the brain; it was about one inch, or three-quarters, beaten in upon the brain; it mea
<lb/>sured about one inch and three-quarters one way, and one inch and a quarter the other. Just above this fracture there was another on the frontal bone, running into the first, apparently made by a more cutting instrument, the bones being out through, rather than depressed; the length of this wound is five-eighths of an inch; still more to the right, near the coronal suture, is another fracture of the same character as the last, running into it; by these fractures a large portion of the frontal bone is detached from the rest of the skull. Over the left eye there is a triangular wound, exposing the periosteum, that is, the lining of the bone, but not implicating the bones. Immediately below the right eye is a large contused wound, not exposing any bone, but beneath it the mala, the cheek bone, and the jaw-bone, are fractured in several directions, and depressed into the antrum, that is beneath the nose, knocked in upon the brain. On the left side of the face, although there is no evidence of a blow, the nasal processes, that is, the nose, and the superior maxillary bone, are detached; that blow, I think, must have been given after the cessation of the circulation, there was no appearance of braise in it. On the right parietal region the perios
<lb/>teum was denuded by an irregular wound, the bone was uninjured, that was, in popular language, on the right side of the head. On the back of the head, on the left side, is a large comminuted fracture, that is, the bones are all broken up into pieces beneath the skin, on the left side, behind, through which lacerated brain substance is protruding; that implicated the occi
<lb/>pital bone, and the left parietal bone of that side; by this fracture a train
<lb/>gular portion of bone on each side, about an inch and a half, is detached, and hangs by the scalp. In addition to this, a number of smaller portions are detached—that injury has apparently been inflicted by two blows, one of a rounded form, the other in front, of a cutting character. Immediately behind the right ear is an incised wound, 21/4 inches long, by which a flap of the scalp is removed from the temporal and occipital bones, and the periosteum exposed; this had apparently been inflicted from behind, as the flap was adherent to the front only; behind, on the occipital region, on the right side, there was a smaller contused scalp wound; there were no other apparent injuries")—When I first saw the body, he was lying on the back—on the front of his trowsers was the debris of mortar and stuff in the room; it was very thick; they were black trowsers—there was no blood on his clothes in front lower than about here (the chest); but he was lying on his back, in a pool of blood—he must have fallen on his face, otherwise he would have been turned over twice—I know what a plasterer's hammer is—I gave it as my opinion then that it was done by a plasterer's hammer, or something of that character; that is my present opinion—that has a blunt hammer on one side, and a cutting chisel on the other—I saw nothing of any hammer.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I can come to no other conclusion than that the large wound behind was the first that he received—I should think there were five wounds that would have caused instant death, and that one particu
<lb/>larly—I think that must have been the first and mortal wound, from the state of his clothes—that wound was caused by two blows, one by a round substance, and one of a cutting character—that must have been a very heavy blow, indeed, given with immense violence, and must have been done with a heavy hammer—the skull is particularly thick there—that wound must have caused instant death—the man must have fallen forward, on his face; his clothes, and the whole of his black trowsers, being covered with dust in front—he could not have moved himself after that, he must have been turned over by some other force, and the other blows must have been inflicted afterwards, otherwise he must have been turned over twice; he was, I should say, rather a stout, powerful man, a broad man, about 5ft. 3 in. in heighth; I should say his weight was ten or eleven stone, or more than that—I am ten, and I should think he was two stone heavier than I am—he was a stout, fat, well-built man—if he was dead when he fell, it would take more power to turn him over than it would if he had been alive—we had a difficulty in moving him up to be examined—I gave evi
<lb/>dence before the Coroner, and described the wounds—I read from this paper—the eyes were wide open, widely extended; he looked as though he were looking at you with his eyes very wide open—I have used the word
<hi rend="italic">staring;</hi> we call it staring when the eyes are so very wide open—I used that ex
<lb/>pression before—I also stated my impression that it must have been done with a hammer of the kind mentioned.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You mentioned that opinion at the time, and you think so now?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, it is nothing more than conjecture.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-158" type="given" value="ALFRED WYBURN"/>ALFRED WYBURN HARLEY</persName> </hi>. In August last I was employed as day watch
<lb/>man, in Gledhow Gardens, and Bolton Gardens—on Saturday, 13th August, about 1.30, I saw the deceased man Lee coming out of the yard, at the corner of No. 16, Bolton Gardens; it is called Wetherby Road now—there was no one with him—he had something in his hand—he was looking at his accounts, I think—he was going straight down the side of the gardens, towards his home, not in the direction of No. 3, Gledhow Gardens, but in an opposite direction.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> It would take two or three minutes to walk from where I saw him to No. 3, Gledhow Gardens.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-159" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer—on 13th August I was passing the Drayton Arms, about 1.20, as near as I could tell, and met the deceased—he was on the opposite side of the road to me; he was going towards the Drayton; that would be about sixty yards from No. 3, Gledhow Gardens—he had a book in his hand like the one produced.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I have not heard this matter talked over among the men as to the way in which the deceased met his death—I am not em
<lb/>ployed on that estate.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-160" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TOTEN</persName> </hi>. I am assistant foreman, at Messrs. Spicer's works—I was employed on the estate at which Gledhow Gardens is situate—I know No. 6; there was a plasterer's hammer lying in the fire-place, at No. 6, some time previous to the murder; it was an old hammer, that belonged to no one particularly; it was lying in the fire-place, among some rubbish; it was claimed by no one particularly, and I gave it out of my office to one of the labourers to clean some bricks with; that was some months pre
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<p>but it had been lying in that house for some considerable time—I last saw it lying in the fire-place, at No. 6—I expect that was about two months previous to the murder—it was an old plasterer's hammer, the cutting part was very much worn away, but the bottom part was only a little chipped; it was a hexagon-shaped hammer—it has been searched for—I followed the constable, and searched for it immediately the body was found—I was not able to find it, or trace it in any way.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I gave it out to somebody to chip away the cement work, and to clean bricks—I don't recollect who that was—it is two years ago when it was first given out—I saw it after that, some months after
<lb/>wards; I saw it continually—I last saw it lying in the fire-place—the work
<lb/>men were finishing that house, No. 6, at the time of the murder—I was there during the last two months before the murder; I did not notice it then, I did not see it at all—the reason I noticed it two months previous was because I saw a man using it—I was in that house, three or four times a day between that two months and the time of the murder, and in that room in which I had seen the hammer—this matter has been a good deal discussed amongst the workmen, as to its being done with a hammer—it was my impression, when I saw the shape of the wound, that it was done with a plasterer's hammer—I believe it was frequently discussed amongst the men—I have not seen any of them imitate the way in which they thought it was done—I have heard them suggesting the way in which it was done—I have very little association with the men, beyond the work, and I do not hear what their discussions are.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> The prisoner worked on the estate up to about a week before he gave himself up.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-161" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS STRATFORD</persName> </hi>. I worked on the same estate with the prisoner—during the week of the murder I saw him at work there, at the same house as I was, No. 6, Gledhow Gardens—I have also seen him at times at the Drayton Arms, in the week days, in that same week—I have seen an old plasterer's hammer lying about—the last time I saw it was in Bina Road, where some new houses are being built, about 200 yards from Gledhow Gardens—it was a hammer that no one claimed—I saw it some time previous to the murder—it might have been a month or two months—I have never seen it since that time—on Saturday, 13th August, I saw the deceased, about 1.5, close to our yard, where we get paid, close to the pay table—I paid him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., that day—that was the last I saw of him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-162" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MART ANN NICHOLLS</persName> </hi>. I live at 62, Adam Street, Pimlico—I have known the prisoner about nine months—I am seventeen years of age—on Thursday, 25th August last, I went with the prisoner to the Crystal Palace, on the occasion of the Police
<hi rend="italic">Fêete</hi>—I was with him the whole day—he paid the expenses—he spent about 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., that day—he had some other silver in his pockets when he had paid that—I could not judge how much, but about the same quantity, about 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.,—I have been in the habit of seeing him from time to time—about three weeks before Christmas he told me he had some
<lb/>thing on his mind—I asked him to tell me what it was—he said he could not tell me, it was too great—he said it was too horrible to tell—he did not say anything more—he has not said anything to me about it on any other occasion—he was sober at the time—I remember hearing that he was in custody—Mr. Palmer came to me on the Sunday, and said that he had given himself up—I had seen him on the Saturday night before, at our house—he came there about 7 o'clock, and stayed till 11.3.0 at night—we</p>
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<p>went out for a walk during that time—I did not notice anything about him then.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> He brought me home again, and left about 11.30—we had gone out about 8 o'clock—I was keeping company with him—my father is a policeman—he was at the Police
<hi rend="italic">Fête</hi>—there was a great gathering of police there—we met my father there twice during the day—we were not with him all day—my mother was not there, my brother was with my father—the prisoner was with me—he did not spend any money in my father's presence—I should think it was about 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., that he spent—that is, from reckoning it up—I did not know at the time—I merely guess as to the silver he had in his pocket—I know he had some beyond what he paid away—I had been out with him before the murder, not to places of amusement, not before the murder—I had known him about three weeks before that—I am sure it was about three weeks before Christmas that he said this to me—I was at home at the time—it was in the evening part, about 8 o'clock—I had not been anywhere with him before that—I did not tell anybody about it—I did not think anything more of it—I saw him again the next day—I saw him most days—that was the only time he ever said anything to me about it—Mr. Palmer asked me to come as a witness—he asked me if the prisoner had said anything to me, and then I remembered this.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When was it that Mr. Palmer asked you that?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> When he came to me on the following Wednesday as he gave himself up.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">G. H. ADKINS</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined</hi>). The entries in the book (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are in the deceased's handwriting—it is a book relating to his own business; I had nothing at all to do with this book. (
<hi rend="italic">The book contained several entries of the name of "Woollty.</hi>")</p>
<hi rend="italic">When examined before the Magistrate, the Prisoner, having been cautioned, said nothing, and called no witnesses.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">The names of the Prisoner's father and brother being on the back of the bill,</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">requested that they might be called.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">did not purpose to examine them; but, at the suggestion of</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">they were called.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-163" type="given" value="HENRY SAMUEL"/>HENRY SAMUEL WOOLLEY</persName> </hi>. I live at Ranelagh Grove, Pimlico—the prisoner is my son—in August last I was working on the Gledhow estate—my son was also working there—he was not at work in Gledhow Gardens on the Saturday; he had been in the course of the week—on the Saturday, he was working in the glass-shop on the estate—it would take him about six minutes to walk from there to No. 3—he worked with me till 11.50 that day—it would be his duty to remain in the glass-shop till the bell rung 1 o'clock—he used to keep the men's time—at 1 o'clock, he would go to No. 15, Bolton Gardens, take his money, and go about his business—that is where the men were paid—it would take about a minute and a half to walk from there to No. 3, Gledhow Gardens—I paid my son 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. per hour at that time; that would be about 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a week—he lived at home with me—he bought his own food—he had not had any time to buy clothes, because he had plenty before—he had only recently taken his money—he had only recently begun to keep himself—he used to take his money to his mother, and live at home, keeping his pocket-money—he had been keeping himself for about three months—I saw my son on the Saturday afternoon, about 2.10, in Ranelagh Grove, in my own kitchen—he continued to work with me up to 13th February last—we then had a disagreement about a little money, and I discharged him—he was not at work for me after 13th February—he still lived at home—I did not not notice anything about him</p>
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<p>on the Saturday afternoon—I had no dealings with the deceased—I did not owe him any money for beer.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> There sare five Woolleys working on the estate, my elder brother, two sons, and a nephew—the prisoner went away from home about 9.30 on the Friday morning before he gave himself up, so his mother tells me; I was not at home at the time—he did not come home after that Friday—where he slept that night I have no knowledge, or on the Saturday—he was not angry with me before he went away, that I know of—I saw very little of him the last four weeks he was at home—I suppose he would be annoyed at my having discharged him—I knew of the body being found on the same evening; my son told me of it—he said something like this, "O father, they have found the body of poor old Jack in No. 3," but the exact words I could not tell you positively—I did not see any appear
<lb/>ance of confusion about him at any time; nothing but what you would think natural—I was there when the Inspector came to see him—he appeared quite cool and collected, a great deal cooler than me—when he spoke about the body being found, he spoke in a feeling manner; he seemed to be quite feeling about it—I saw him about 2.10 on the Saturday—he had his tea with me between 6 and 7 o'clock, when I came home from the Abbey—I did not notice his clothes particularly—there was nothing upon his clothes to attract my attention; no blood, or dirt, or anything of that kind—there was nothing at all amiss with him that day, that I know of—the clothes that were afterwards given up to the Inspector were the clothes that he was wearing on that day—when I came back on the Saturday afternoon, I found him working in the garden—he worked there the whole afternoon, without coat or waistcoat on—he kept on the same trowsers—a person, named Jackson, was working there with him—besides the wages that I gave him, he was receiving money about that time from the Savings' Bank—I gave him 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., I think it was, that very week that he went to the Crystal Palace; that was besides his wages—I paid him the day's wages for his holiday, and we were making overtime that week—as contractor, I had to overlook the house, No. 3, as well as the other houses—there had not been any work done in it for some months before the murder—I had not been in the house for some months—we left it under second colour, and I went over it to see that it was done all through—no tools were left lying about the house at that time, that I know of—this matter was a good deal discussed amongst the men; it was the common talk all day along—I have heard it discussed when my son has been present; I have discussed it with him myself—I have seen some of the men, when they have been discussing it in his presence, suggest the way in which it was done; some said it was done one way, and some another, imitating the way in which it was done; moat probably I have done so myself.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> I have got his Savings Bankbook(
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—there is 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., left now—he had none there in August; he took the last out the last week in July—I have no doubt about the clothes that the police took away—the coat was one of my own, a brown-coloured sort of coat; I think the trowsers were a sort of grey, rather lighter than those I have on—those were the very clothes he was at work in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-164" type="given" value="JULIAN GEORGE"/>JULIAN GEORGE WOOLLEY</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's brother—on Saturday, 13th August, I was at 15, Bolton Gardens—I was paid my wages there, and saw the prisoner there—I did not see him afterwards, till the Monday</p>
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<p>morning—I had transactions with the deceased, now and then; very little—I occasionally bought beer of him—I never borrowed any money of him—I had no outstanding account with him on 13th August.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I did deal with him occasionally—I always paid ready money for what I had of him; not at the end of the week, I paid for what I had as I went along—there are other Woolleys besides myself and father—it was three or four minutes after 1 o'clock on the Saturday, that the prisoner came to me for his wages—we were not talking at all—he came straight in, and I gave him his money—I think it was 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-165" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE GREENHAM</persName> </hi>. The distance, from No. 3, Gledhow Gardens to the place where the prisoner lived, is five yards within two miles.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, June</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1871.</p>
<hi rend="italic">before Mr. Justice Blackburn.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">The Jury recommended John Baker to mercy, on account of his youth, and thinking he was drawn into the crime by the other prisoners.</hi> </rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi> H.
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-457-18710605 t18710605-457-punishment-30"/>Fifteen Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOLLY</hi>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-457-18710605 t18710605-457-punishment-31"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HORSLEY</hi>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def4-457-18710605 t18710605-457-punishment-32"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def5-457-18710605 t18710605-457-punishment-33"/>Nine Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-176" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY WHITEMAN</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Thomas Whiteman, of Woodchester Street, Paddington—the prisoners lodged in our house; they occupied two parlours—on Wednesday morning, a fortnight ago to-day, I woke up with my baby, and heard the prisoners talking rather loudly—the day was then breaking; it was about 3.30, and I went to sleep again—I afterwards heard a noise like somebody running about the passage—I dressed myself quickly, and went down—the house was full of smoke, and the witness Smith was putting out the fire—I saw coals and wood about 2ft. from the hearth—I cannot say whether they were piled up, because the fire was out—there was no fender on the hearth—my husband had distrained on the prisoners on the Saturday before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> They occupied the two parlours as bed-room and sitting-room—they had three children—I cannot say where they slept, as I never was in the room after they were in bed—when I went into the room where the fire was, no children were there—they were in the back room, undressed—the male prisoner is a tailor, and works in Regent Street—whatever work he did was done in the room where the fire was—he used to sit up lute—I do not know whether he was working or not—it was about 4.15 when I went into the room—I saw a coat, which had been partly worked up, placed in a box, near the door—the furniture of the room had been taken—I did not soc a candlestick in the room, or a candle burnt down, between</p>
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<p>some wood—I occupy two kitchens, and a bed-room for my children, on the same floor—I slept beneath the prisoners, in the back kitchen—my husband is a gentleman's servant, and does not sleep there—two families of lodgers were up stairs.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Re-examined.</hi> No candlestick was taken in the inventory—I do not know what light they had—I saw the children that morning undressed, but do not know where they had slept.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Whose property were the bedclothes which were burnt?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mrs. Bastin's.</p>
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<interp inst="t18710605-name-177" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES SMITH</persName> </hi>. I live at 96, Woodchester Street, and am a potman—on the morning of 24th May, about 4.15, I heard cries of "Fire!" in the street, from a man who was passing—I ran down, and found Whiteman's door, No. 87, on the latch, not fastened, and as I ran in at the parlour-door where the fire was, the male prisoner stooped to throw a jug of water to put the fire out—I said "Have you set the place on fire? and I took the jug out of his hand, and well
<hi rend="italic">slothed</hi> the two fires—the parlour is on the ground floor—there was no fire in the fire-place, but there was a fire, about 11/4ft. high, of flame, above 3ft. from the hearth, and another distinct fire 5ft. off, in the middle of the bed, which had been left for the children to sleep in—the children were not there, they were in the back room; the prisoners only were in the room when I went in, and both were fully dressed—they did not say a word, bat as I went in the male prisoner stooped, and made one
<hi rend="italic">douse</hi> with the jug, and I took it out of his hand, and partly put it on the one fire, and partly put the water on to the bed—I said "Go and get some more water, and I will try and put it out"—I took the clothing off the bed, and soaked it well in water, and threw it into the bed—eventually I put it out, and the coal and wood I took out into the street—the coal was on the wood floor, 3ft. from the fire-place, and the wood was in the middle of the coal—the wood was burning, and the coal crackling, not quite alight—some rags were also burning, I should think it was a quilt—the middle of the bed was burning, and the top quilt, and the window-work was burning through the heat of the fire which I put out—there was about 5ft. between the fire on the floor and the bed, half a foot from that fire to the window—there were two distinct fires; the window sashes were connected with both, and the cupboard-door, which had caught, was connected with the one nearest to the hearth—neither of the prisoners said anything till the constable came, and then the female prisoner said that Mrs. Whiteman and I must have set it on fire while she was out—she also said that if it caught fire, she bought a penny candle on Tuesday eight, and put it in a bundle of wood, and put it on a bushel basket, and that was how it must have caught fire—that was at the same tune that she said that Mrs. Wightman and I must have set fire to it—the said that she stuck the candle in the bundle of wood, and put it in the basket, and went out at 10 o'clock, and me and Mrs. Whiteman must have set it on fire, and that was all she knew about it—there were two baskets in the room, and a new coat, which was being made—I have seen the floor since the fire was cleared away; there is a new flooring there now—they have had to have a new cupboard-door, but if the window-sashes are stopped, and painted over, I think they will do.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> The jug which the man had would hold two gallons—when I went in he picked it up from the corner of the fire-place, 5 or 6 ft. from the first fire—it was not in his hand when I went in—I saw a bundle</p>
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<p>of wood in the room, but no candle—if there had been a candle it must have burnt down to the edge of the wood, but there were no signs of any grease—the basket might have been burnt—I saw fragments of a basket—the rags were not a woman's underclothing; there were towels among them—there was some underclothing; it is no interest to me to tell a lie—I saw a new pair of her boots burnt, but no children's boots—I saw no under-clothing burnt, or the remnants of it—the fire was 5ft. on the other side of the bed; it could not have set fire to the coverlet—the quilt could not have been set on fire by the heat, because the window and door were shut—the male prisoner did not take the coverlet off the bed when I went in—he seemed to have had his clothes on all night—the half-made coat was in a box, or part of a box, close to the door, untouched—I think if I had not gone in, the whole would have been set on fire, because no one would have known of it, and the inhabitants as well—it is no interest to me to come up here—I am a friend of Mr. Whiteman's, a very particular friend—I went into the next room to where the fire was—there were no possible means for them to sleep in that room unless they slept on the floor—the children came into the room where I was, in their night clothes.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman X</hi> 358). On the morning of 24th May I was called to 87, Woodchester Street, and saw the prisoners in the room where the fire was—I asked the male prisoner how he accounted for the fire—he said that he could not account for it at all—the woman said that she went out at 10 on the evening previous, and bought a penny candle and a bundle of wood, that she went out at 10 o'clock and returned at 11, and she supposed Smith and the landlady had set the room on fire during the time she was away—she afterwards said that she placed the bundle of wood at the top of a hamper, and stuck the candle in the bundle of wood, and she supposed the candle burnt down and set the wood on fire—the fires were out then, but the room was very hot—that was all she said—the floor was burnt in two places—one was about a foot from the corner of the cupboard, and the other the other side of the window—one place was where the bed had stood.</p>
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