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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-2" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-3" type="given" value="EDWARD T. E."/>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.</persName>,</p>
<p>Law Publisher to the Queen's Most excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, October 24th, 1870, and following days,</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-4" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT BESLEY</persName>, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; Sir
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-5" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT LUSH</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-6" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HANNEN</persName> </hi>, Knt., one other of Her Majesty's Justices of the Court of Queen's Bench; Sir
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-9" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS GABRIEL</persName> </hi>, Birt, and
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-10" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P., Aldermen of the said City; The Bight Hon.
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-11" type="given" value="RUSSELL"/>RUSSELL GURNEY</persName> </hi>, Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City; Sir
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-13" type="given" value="WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND"/>WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND COTTON</persName> </hi>, Esq., and Sir
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-14" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH CAUSTON</persName> </hi>, Knt., Aldermen of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-15" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Esq., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-17" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT JONES</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-19" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER CROSLEY</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BESLEY, MAYOR. TWELFTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk (†) that they art known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, October</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1870.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-787-offence-1 t18701024-name-21"/>Frederick Hamilton Phillips</persName>, 320
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and an order for 180
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<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>—inducing Phillips to execute an agreement
<hi rend="italic">Third Count</hi>—obtaining 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFB</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-23" type="given" value="FREDERICK HAMILTON"/>FREDERICK HAMILTON PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>. I live at 27, Tanley Hill, Wandsworth—in June last I saw an advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Telegraph</hi> with reference to a business at Eagle Wharf, Wandsworth, in consequence of which I saw the prisoner at Eagle Wharf, on 21st June—he referred me to the books, as showing that he was doing a very good business there—Mr. Burt was present at the time, on my behalf—we met again on the following day—he showed us the plant and the stock—he said half of the wharf was leasehold sod half of it he represented as freehold—we called for the title deeds—he said he had none, that he had taken possession of it about four years ago, and that it had been held so previously by different parties, who had never paid any rent for it, and that no rent had been paid for it as long as the oldest man in Wandaworth could recollect, there had been no owner for it—he said the adjoining premises were held in a similar way—they were held by other persons—he said they paid no rent for theirs, and that he took possession of it in the same way—he said he had no liabilities what
<lb/>ever, and he distinctly stated that Mr. Crossley, his late partner, had been settled with—this is the inventory which the prisoner gave me, made out and signed by him—(
<hi rend="italic">This was an inventory of the stock, plant of property connected with the coal business at this wharf, amounting to</hi> 1360
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—That was written out by the prisoner—I did not see him write it; it is signed by him—I know his signature—this is the deed of partnership which I entered into subsequently—(
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>)—I paid the prisoner 320
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. before that was made out—after the inventory was signed, on the completion of the deed, I paid a further sum of 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., on 16th July, making 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., according to agree
<lb/>ment—the prisoner said the waggon was at Smith's, the carriage builder;</p>
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<p>it was having the name painted on, and he would pay waggon hire while it was being done; it was such a small job, that Smith's, who were doing a large business, could not pay attention to such a small job as that—I made inquiries, and spoke to the prisoner; he promised to take me where the van was—he said there was 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. due on the van, and it would not he delivered till that was paid—I have never found any van—the 170 ton of coals turned out to be only about thirty tons—the money in the bank was 39
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—if I had known all these things, and also that the land was not freehold, I would not have paid the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were you in the coal business before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I had not been in any business before—after hearing from Mr. Bennett, I thought I would go into the coal business—I was favourably impressed by what I saw, and decided to go into it—on the first occasion I saw the prisoner he referred me to the books; he showed us the old boob—Mr. Burt looked into the matter for me as a friend—we both of us looked it the books—Mr. Burt went over them previously, before I went there—Mr. Burt saw him before I did—when I first saw him Mr. Burt was with me—we had a look at the books again, the day-book principally—I saw the amount sold—we saw all the stock and plant that was there, and were satis
<lb/>fied with it, together with Mr. Bennett's statement—(
<hi rend="italic">looking at a paper</hi>)—this describes how the land lies—he said the wharf was leasehold—I believe it is let at a very low rent, 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the other piece he said was freehold—it was called freehold in a letter from Mr. Bennett's agent—I believe he made use of the word freehold—he said it was his own—he led me to understand it was freehold—I can't be certain that he did or did not say so—it is described in the deed as "land in possession"—when I asked him for the title-deeds he said he had none, nobody had any, nobody had any right to it, only as possessors—that was the only title he pretended to show that he had—he said the next wharf was held in the same way, that nobody could make out a title, and nobody held possession against any other person—I did not find out that that was the case with regard to this or any other piece of land—I found that he was paying rent for it—I found that the next piece of land was owned, and had been paid for—when he said he had no liabi
<lb/>lities he was speaking of the partnership, not his own private affairs—I was not asking him about his own private affairs at all—he told me he had paid Mr. Crossley out—he did not tell me how—I knew that he and Mr. Croaley had been in partnership—I paid the 320
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to Mr. Fry—I was quite aware of that—Mr. Fry had negotiated with Mr. Bennett previously—Mr. Bennett told me that Mr. Fry had joined him, that he wanted a working partner, he found that Mr. Fry and he would not suit one another as partners, that Mr. Fry would not pay that attention to the business he should require, and he would sooner give him 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to withdraw than keep him as a partner, and he paid him the 320
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to get rid of him—that was 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in addition to what Mr. Fry had paid to get in—I have my banker's book here—the 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was not paid into the bank—it was paid on 16th July—I paid it to Mr. Bennett—he paid 45
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. into the bank on 18th July, on the partnership account; that was two days after I had paid him the 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—what was paid in afterwards was paid in by myself, out of the proceeds—we drew cheques in the joint names—it was necessary to have both signatures—I had 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the bank for my private account, by cheque, which he and I signed—I don't know when this inventory was prepared, it was handed to me when the deed was signed, a copy of that portion where the signature is</p>
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<p>under—a copy of the portion on the other side was shown to me before—I have not got it, I think my solicitor has, it was sent me in a letter by Mr. Bennett's agent, Mr. Sharp—it was after I had the inventory that I went over the wharf, and looked over the things mentioned in it—I found them all correct, except the waggon and the coals—170 tons is the quantity of coals mentioned in the inventory—it was prepared at the time Mr. Bennett was negotiating with me—it was given me as an inventory of what there was there at that time—I looked at the coals and said the quantity seemed small, and Mr. Bennett said, in answer, as the stock of coals decreased, the amount of outstanding accounts increased, and the amount at the bank would increase—I am not a judge as regards quantity—I could not tell how many tons there were there—I now there was not thirty tons, by the balance that has been made up since—we have since purchased so many tons, and sold so many, and the balance of the stock shows what quantity there was on the wharf at that time—since 4th July I have attended there every day—I did not solicit orders, Mr. Bennett did that—I attended to the business at the wharf—I was there July and August—I got very dissatisfied with the business—there were very few customers and very great complaints—my books are all here—Mr. Bennett reminded me that this was the very worst time of year for selling coals—I told him the business was not so flourishing as I expected, instead of selling 200 tons a week we were selling about twenty—one horse was sold, the other was let on hire—we got 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the one we sold—the money has not been paid by the buyer, a balance is owing—5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. has been paid—Mr. Bennett let the other horse on hire previous to my coming there—I have not found any things on the wharf that are not mentioned in the inventory—there were some bricks there, not mentioned in it—they were then building the wall up, and putting up a pair of gates, on the piece of land of which he said he had possession—a portion of the wall has been finished, not completed altogether—the gates are up—he gave me a list of the outstanding accounts when I came up on 4th July—it was a separate list—I think I have a copy of it—I found a great many of them had been paid to him—I found that out from the parties themselves—I have not found that any' debts due to the firm were by mistake put into that account—this is the list—9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is represented as the amount—there are not half of those debts due—I have not heard of a Mr. Hayes who is not entered there—the Metropolitan Bank have paid nothing—Major de Rubini's name is down, but I can't hear anything of him—I was always there, and know every penny that has been paid in to our account—I got dissatisfied, and consulted Mr. Lewis, and then had the prisoner arrested on a warrant—he was taken that night, locked up all night, brought before the Lord Mayor, and has been in prison ever since—I have not been carrying on the business since—it was discontinued there and then—there was no coal to be sold—some of the accounts that were owing have been paid in; that is all that has been done—Mr. Bennett was to produce capital, 240
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., to pay for stock, and he did not do it—there are no coals at the wharf now, nothing is done there—the stock was all disposed of previously—the plant is lying there now—the one horse is in a field—the barges and other things mentioned in the inventory are there—Mrs. Palmer has still got the piece of land; she has not taken possession of it—I have got the use of it—nobody attempts to disturb me—Mrs. Palmer applied for her rent—I referred her to Mr. Bennett—I have never been sued for the rent—Mr. Bennett is liable for it—there</p>
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<p>was some little coal in the barges on 24th June—the coal altogether in the barges and the stock that was there then was about thirty tons—I can't tell you what was in the barges and what on the wharf.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say you are not quite sure whether you men
<lb/>tioned the word "freehold" before; but did the prisoner tell you that he did not pay any rent?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He declared he bad not paid any rent, and that there had never been any rent paid for it—he said the wharf was leasehold—he did not show me the lease—this is Bennett's handwriting—he did not show me that at the time—out of the 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. outstanding debts, 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and a few shillings was all there was collected, and some of that was actually collected by Bennett before this agreement—I have applied for the accounts, and found Bennett's receipts—I did not speak to Bennett about it afterwards—I have collected, I believe, 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the prisoner was to pay in the 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. as it was required—he was bankrupt before I locked him up—he filed a petition in the County Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When did you have him taken into custody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About 25th or 26th August—my father came up to assist me in this matter—he lives at Bangor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-24" type="given" value="JOHN HARLEY"/>JOHN HARLEY BURT</persName> </hi>. I am manager to Messrs. Phillips & Hill, iron merchants, Birmingham—as a friend of Mr. Phillips I saw the prisoner about this matter, before the partnership was commenced, on or about 21st June—I first saw Mr. Sharp, and after one or two interviews, we got to the prisoner—I made various inquiries, and asked to see the books—I was shown them—I looked round the place generally, and saw the principal items in the inventory, and was, on the whole, satisfied with the representa
<lb/>tions that had been made—it looked like a
<hi rend="italic">bonâ fide</hi> business—the first point upon which I had occasion to question Mr. Bennett was as to the ad
<lb/>joining piece of land, which was represented as a very valuable asset—I asked whether it was leasehold or freehold, and to see the title-deeds—he said he had none—he explained that he held it under a possessory-right, and that he had held it so four years; it was no man's land, he held it under possession, and had not been disturbed for four years, and he also instanced the adjoining wharf, in the occupation of Mr. Ralph, a boat-builder—he said that was held in the same way—he further pointed to houses nearly opposite, which he said were so held, and the tenants had not paid any rent, and he felt so secure in his title, that he had refused an offer of 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for that piece of land; he further said that Mr. Ralph, his next door neighbour, also felt so secure in his holding, that he had directed expensive buildings upon it for the purposes of his trade—he also mentioned that he had offered the tenants of the premises nearly opposite small sums to go out, in order that he might enter into possession—those were the points of conversation, all tending to show that it was his absolute property, by possession—he was asked on another occasion, when Mr. Phillips was there, whether he had paid any rent, and he said he had never paid anything for it, neither had anyone else, that was the memory of the oldest inhabitant of Wandsworth, they never had any purchaser, they had lain for some years as a mere field, there was a sort of fence between his land and the next, and he had simply removed it—he said he had no liabilities—I presumed that to apply to himself, as he had no partner at the time, unless Mr. Fry was held a partner—it was mentioned previously that Mr. Crossley had been out—I wished to get at Mr. Crossley; but I was informed he had left Lon
<lb/>don or gone into Some business; at all events he could not be found—</p>
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<p>hearing these explanations I said on the face of it it appeared good enough to entertain, and the 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid through my hands, and subsequently the 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I remarked on the smallness of the quantity of coal on the wharf, and it was said it was changing from day to day, as parcels were sold, so that the two items would be taken together, the money owing and the coals; of course, it was no matter to Mr. Phillips coming in, if he did not hare the coals he would have the money.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Can you tell when that inventory was made stating that 170 tons were on the wharf?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have no notion when it was made, it was represented to me as the then fact on the day it was given to me—I think Mr. Phillips was present at the time I remarked on the smallness of the quantity of coals on the wharf—I was looking over the wharf then—I had the inventory with me—I went over it for the purpose of seeing if the inventory was correct, and to consider the representations generally, to verify them if possible—there was a quantity of coal there—I formed an idea that there was nothing like half the quantity named, and it turned out that my impression was correct—I should say there were from thirty to forty tons—at that time we were not aware that any firm existed—we were treating with Bennett alone—we were not aware that Mr. Fry was actually a partner; I only found that out at the Mansion House—there was an agreement of partnership.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-25" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-25" type="given" value="SOPHIA"/>SOPHIA PALMER</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Richard Palmer, of Bridgefield House, Wandsworth—this is an agreement to hire a lease of my land at 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—Mr. Bennett drew this up, and my husband drew one up, and gave it to the prisoner—(
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi>" 9th November, 1868. To Mr. Richard Palmer and Sophia Palmer, signed John Bennett, I agree to take the wharf mentioned by you in your letter to me of this date, and am willing to pay 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. per annum, payable quarterly. It is also understood that you are to grant me a lease when able.")—It was taken at the half-quarter—I received from the prisoner a half-quarter up to Christmas—I received a quarter on the fol
<lb/>lowing March, or just after March, and the Midsummer quarter, that was paid by cheque a short time after quarter-day—I have not received any since—I received both these letters from the prisoner, dated April 3rd and 10th, both dated from 42, George Street, Richmond—(
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi> "April 3rd, 1869. To Mr. Palmer. Sir,—You can go to Mr. Fanner, and ask him for the amount you apply to me for, 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and he will pay you. I shall be at Wandsworth at the beginning of the week, when I will call "April 10th. Dear sir,—I really forget what the amount of rent you say was due from you to me")—I let the rent go for six months—I did not want the money particularly, and he said "Well, I may as well be plain with you; I am a man of the world, and I don't mean paying you any more"—six months was due at Christmas—I have since attempted to prove under the bankruptcy 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I have had the land perhaps four or five months, or perhaps a little less—my sister had it before me—I am under an agree
<lb/>ment to purchase—my grandfather had it—he was admitted to the manor in 1800—he had it as long as I can remember—it has been in our family as long as I can remember—we have always had it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he say the reason he would not pay you any more rent?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That was all that passed—I did not grant him a lease because I was not admitted to the manor, and I can't grant a lease without—I have not been admitted to the manor because my sister is in America, and it is such a tedious thing—I applied to my solicitor before I let it to</p>
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<p>Mr. Bennett—he told me I could let it, but he said "You can't grant a lease until you are admitted to the manor, and on account of that he will have to join with you"—he did not tell me I had no title at all—I swear that positively—my claim was objected to by Mr. Charlton, but I have an order from the Bankruptcy Court to appear on 22nd of next month—my sister and I entered into an arrangement that I was to purchase this property—my sister was very ill at the time, and died, the consequence is her four children have to be admitted to the manor before me—I did not let it to anybody until I let it to Mr. Bennett—Mr. Ralph had it before; I did not let it to him—Mr. Neale leased it, and the lease run out, and the land was lying idle, and Mr. Ralph put a steam boiler on it, and took possession of it, and he gave it up when I applied for it—I never received any rent from it before Mr. Bennett—I only had it some few weeks previous.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did your sister?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and my grandfather, too—I know that, because I have taken my sister's rent for her, and I ban received rent for my grandfather for it—that land went with a house that was there; it was garden ground at that time—I had no other piece of land—that was the piece of land for which I have received rent.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-26" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-26" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS CROSSLEY</persName> </hi>. I am living at Bonner Road, Victoria Park—in December, 1869, in consequence of an advertisement in the
<hi rend="italic">Telegraph</hi> I went to a house in the Strand, and saw the prisoner there, in the presence of his agent—we had a conversation about the business at Eagle Wharf—he represented it as being capable of doing a good deal of business, and they gave some estimates, and so on, and I not knowing anything of the trade, naturally believed what was said—he said at that time they were doing a trade of sixty or seventy tons a week at present, and that it would be increased to 200 or 300 tons a week—he said the wharf was divided into two, one part of it was held at the low rent of 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a-year for twenty-two or twenty-three years, and that the other was his own property; a piece of land valued at about 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he said that should be taken as an asset; that he would assign me one-half of it on going into the business; that he would pay in 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. as his share as well, if I would find the rest of the capital, 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I received this letter of 23rd December (
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi> "To Mr. Palmer. Dear sir,—in consideration of your paying into the partnership 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I hereby agree to hand to you an agreement, giving you a full share with me of the plot of ground, of which I hold possession, described as lying between Eagle Wharf and Mr. Ralph's, boat-builder, and to execute such agreement when called upon")—This is the agreement—(
<hi rend="italic">This was dated 12th January,</hi> 1870,
<hi rend="italic">and by it Bennett professed to assign to the witness an equal share in the property in question</hi>)—On entering into the articles of partnership I paid 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to Fricker & Davis, on the prisoner's behalf, and I afterwards paid in 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to the Metropolitan Bank to the joint account—the prisoner gave 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which I paid into the bank with mine—he said the piece of land was his own by possession—he said he had never paid any rent, or been asked for it—he said there was no owner for it but himself—I attempted to get out of the concern by sacrificing part of that which I had paid in, on purpose to get rid of him—I never got anything; I never received a shilling—the prisoner gave me two bills, which have never been paid—I made him a bankrupt—one bill was due on 11th June, and the other on 28th—they were both dishonoured.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you quite sure he said, with reference to this land, that he had never paid any rent for it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, quite sure—he said</p>
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<p>he bad rented the wharf, and there was a sort of broken down paling that was standing between the wharf and this piece of land, and there being no owner whatever for the piece of land he simply removed the fence, and took possession of it—we carried on anything but a flourishing business; I lost everything—something like 700 or 800 tons were sold between the beginning of January and the end of April—I don't consider that a good trade; it did not pay expenses—it was represented to me as a wonderful affair—I naturally expected at least 10 per cent, on the returns—I entered into negotiations with Mr. Sharp when I wanted to get out of it—I got thoroughly tired of it—I was not accustomed to the coal trade—I had been in the wholesale oil refining—I did not find that profitable—it fell off—I was in it about five or six years—I was also in the soap making trade from fifteen to twenty years—that was profitable—I did not leave the oil trade, it left me—I naturally took the first thing that offered—I would become a sweep if I could make money by it, or a solicitor if I could make money by it—before I paid the 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I went over the wharf, and saw the plant—I only examined the books slightly at that time—I understand book-keeping—I did look into the books—I was not satisfied with him—I took their word for it—they showed me a statement of accounts drawn up by an accountant, and I, naturally thinking Bennett was the possessor of the land, and that he was about to pay in 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and that would make his share almost equal to mine, I was disposed to believe that he said—at the time I left, at the end of March, I considered it might be made a profitable affair if more money was brought into it—I to represented to Mr. Sharp—I told him the available capital was 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 350
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said it was a promising place; if I was to deal in paving
<lb/>stones, with plenty of capital, I could make it pay.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-27" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-27" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-27" type="surname" value="TEMPERLY"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-27" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN TEMPERLY</persName> </hi>. I reside at Brompton—I am an accountant, and have an office in the Strand—I formerly carried on business as a coal merchant with my brother, at this wharf; that was about three years ago—we did a very good business there—there are two strips of land running up from the river—one is a wharf—I had the piece of land, at that time, from a person named Shaw, and he had no power to grant a lease—I did not pay him any rent for it—Shaw was in possession of it, and he was our manager—I did not pay any rent because he would not grant me a lease—I never knew any rent paid for it—I have known the prisoner eight or nine years—I never knew anything against his character—I have always found him perfectly straightforward.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Crpss-examined. Q.</hi> You occupied this wharf as a coal merchant?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—Eagle Wharf—I was told there was no title to any of the property about there—the piece we had was adjoining Ralph's—Ralph was not there at that time; Hawkins was there then—I understood that that was called Eagle Wharf—the piece we occupied is the piece which appears on this paper, white—a person named Hawkins had the next piece—I think it was twenty-two years ago—Shaw was in possession then—I don't know where he is now—I should think it was twenty-five years ago when I first went there—we remained there three years, and then removed to the wharf Basin—we left the wharf because we could not get any lease for it—I gave the coal business up ultimately, and became an accountant—Shaw was our manager while we were at the wharf—he lived in the house feeing the wharf.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you doing a large trade at this wharf?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, about 250 tons a week—Shaw was in possession of the wharf first
<lb/>be came to me and asked me if I would carry on business there, and he would be the manager, and I agreed to do so—he said "I will find the wharf, and make me your manager"—I can't tell whether he paid any rent—I have not been to the wharf for the last two or three years—I think there was a division down the centre of the wharf then—we only occupied one side—the side nearest to Ralph's.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-28" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-28" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FUTER</persName> </hi>. I know this piece of land perfectly well—I was in possession of it sixteen years ago, and had it about two years—I used to put sand on it and no one interfered with me, and after that I took pos
<lb/>session of it—I never paid any rent—I left the wharf because the City put a fine on us for sand, and I could not afford to pay it—the next piece of land to me was also used as a wharf at the time I had my sand there—a man named Phipps had that wharf—he did a large business—I used to do work for him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What are you now?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am a lighterman, and was foreman for Mr. Bennett and Mr. Phillips, from the time the wharf opened—I worked for Mr. Bennett when the place first opened, about four years ago—I am speaking of the wharf next to the piece of land—I believe it was four years ago I was there with Mr. Bennett—it was more than two years ago—I can't say whether it was in 1868—I believe he took Eagle Wharf some few weeks before he took his piece of land—I went to Mr. Bennett as foreman and lighterman, and I continued with him until his bankruptcy—we did a good deal of business, and did 150 or 160 tons a week in the winter time—I don't know that there was a hired waggon there—I don't know what waggon it was—there used to be a waggon there when I was there—I was not there the whole time, because I had to go after craft—there was a waggon there in June and July—it was not a hired one, I believe—I never knew Mr. Bennett to sell a waggon while I was there—the piece of land I put my sand on, sixteen years ago, is the piece which Mrs. Palmer says belongs to her—I don't know who was in possession of it then—I knew Mrs. Palmer a great many years ago—I might have known her sister—I don't know that the house opposite the Wharf belongs to Mrs. Palmer—I did not claim that—I could have had it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What do you mean by saying you could have had it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A party asked me to take it and pay him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—that was Mr. Neale—I don't know whether he paid anything for it—I remember Mr. Crossley being there—he used to come about four days a week—I remember when Mr. Phillips came first.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-29" type="surname" value="RALPH"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-29" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN RALPH</persName> </hi>. I am a boat-builder—I know this plot of ground which Mrs. Palmer claims—I occupied it about a year and a half ago, or two years—I had it for about five or six years—I put timber on it—I never paid any rent for it to anybody—no one ever asked me—Mrs. Palmer never claimed any—I went to Mr. Neale, who lived in the house facing the ground, and asked him if he would allow me to put my timber on that wharf, as it was doing nothing at the time, and he said I could put what I liked on it—I left it because some one sent me a notice to leave, and I went to my solicitor, and he said "Do you want the wharf particularly,"and I said "No" and he said, "Well you had better give it up"—I took Possession of it more than anything to keep the boys from coming alongside my shop, to prevent them from breaking the windows and so forth—I gave it up to</p>
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<p>Mrs. Palmer—I had seen her before—I used to see her two or three times a week—she lives close there—the prisoner entered into possession a day or two after I gave it up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When Mrs. Palmer served you with a notice, you gave it up to her?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I received permission from Neale to put timber there—I don't know that he paid any rent to Mrs. Palmer—he used to pay rent for the house facing the ground, to Mrs. Palmer's agent—I held the land adjoining—I paid 600 guineas for it, and for a ten-roomed house facing, but there is about four times the space of ground on my place that there was on this little wharf.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-30" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-30" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a coal and general dealer, and live in the Com
<lb/>mercial Road—in June last I had a waggon of the prisoner—I had it to sell because it did not suit him—it was a square-headed van, and he wanted a round-headed one, and asked me to buy him one for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he gave me 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. towards the purchase—I bought him one about two months ago, and I am ready to give it up if I get 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I had orders to buy another for him directly after I sold the other—I could not get one to suit him—I took him to see two or three, but they could not do.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> On the 21st June, had you a waggon in your pos
<lb/>session belonging to the prisoner, valued at 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I can't say as to the date—it was not worth 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the one I had, sold for 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he said he wanted me to buy him one for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and he left 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. as a deposit—I hired one for him in July from Mr. Deadman, and that was the only one he was using at that time, I believe.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There were other vans on the wharf, were there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I hare seen three or four when I have been there—I transacted business frequently with him, and sold plenty of coals for him, and could sell plenty from that wharf.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-31" type="surname" value="SHARP"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-31" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SHARP</persName> </hi>. At the time the negociations were going on with Mr. Phillips I was acting for Mr. Bennett—I remember Mr. Shaw and Mr. Burt coming there frequently—the books were always open to inspection—I am a commission agent, amongst my own friends only—Mr. Phillips went down with Mr. Bennett, and I was with them on one or two occasions when he inspected the barges and horses—I kept away—I did not hear what he said on the matter—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is an inventory of the plant as it existed—this is a copy of it—it was copied two or three months ago; before Mr. Phillips put himself in communication with Bennett—I can't say exactly how long before, within a few days—there is an item of 170 tons of coal in the yard—tbat was put down at Mr. Bennett's bidding—I did not see that the coal was on the wharf; it was not my business to do so—I made out the memorandum of the things on a piece of paper, which I have in my pocket now, and I copied this from it—Mr. Burt and I communicated freely before this affair—I heard the question put by Mr. Phillips to Bennett, about the land—I can't remember the exact words; as to what title he had to the land; the reply that Bennett made on that occasion was that he had no title to it, and on two or three occasions it came out that he got pos
<lb/>session of it in a possessory title—I replied to Mr. Burt when the question was asked that there were no liabilities on the business, and I understood that from Mr. Crossley himself—that did not have reference to his private debts.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You understood that from Mr. Crossley?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yea,</p>
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<lb/>perty—I did not know anything about the rental—I described it to the gentleman as Mr. Bennett's own property—I knew nothing of this agree
<lb/>ment, or I should not have made such a statement.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-789-18701024 t18701024-789-punishment-3"/>Eight Months' Im
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<interp inst="t18701024-790-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, to seven indictments for stealing portmanteaus, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-790-offence-1 t18701024-name-37"/>Sir Frederick Arrow</persName>, and others—</rs>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-791-offence-1 t18701024-name-39"/>Emanuel Lambert Lion</persName> and an
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<hi rend="largeCaps">PHILIP HOUGHTON</hi> (50)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18701024-792-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/>, to stealing 1000 drawing pins, of
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor</hi>—LOCK—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-792-18701024 t18701024-792-punishment-7"/>Judgment Respited.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-792-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE SMITH</hi> (17)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18701024-793-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, to stealing a watch of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-793-offence-1 t18701024-name-44"/>Edgar Joyce</persName>, from his person*—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-793-18701024 t18701024-793-punishment-8"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-793-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD LANCA
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<interp inst="t18701024-794-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/>, to stealing thirteen post-letters and four Post-office orders, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-794-offence-1 t18701024-name-46"/>Joseph Ellis</persName>, his master—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-794-18701024 t18701024-794-punishment-9"/>Six Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-794-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-795-offence-1 t18701024-name-48"/>Her Majesty's Postmaster General</persName></rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-795-18701024 t18701024-795-punishment-10"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-795-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and a post-letter, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-796-offence-1 t18701024-name-50"/>Her Majesty</persName>, being employed in the Inland Revenue Office—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-796-18701024 t18701024-796-punishment-11"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-796-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-797-offence-1 t18701024-name-52"/>John Francis Kain</persName>, from his person, having been before convicted on 6th March, 1865**—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-797-18701024 t18701024-797-punishment-12"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-797-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-797-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-54" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-798-offence-1 t18701024-name-54"/>James Baxendale</persName>, and others—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-798-18701024 t18701024-798-punishment-13"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-798-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, October</hi> 24
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1870.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES ROBINSON</hi> (18)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HOLLINGS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-56" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-56" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FITZGERALD</persName> </hi>. I am a cheesemonger, of Cow Cross—on 13th October the prisoner came in for some bread and some butter, which came to 10 1/212;
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a shilling—I said "This is a bad one"—he said "No, it is not"—I bent it with my fingers, doubled it in half, and asked where he got it—he said "At a public-house, the night before"—he left the goods on the counter, and came back in a half or three quarters of an hour, say
<lb/>ing that he had got it changed at the public-house, the Red Horse, and paid me in copper.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-57" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-57" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-57" type="surname" value="BOWD"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-57" type="given" value="JOHN WILLIAM"/>JOHN WILLIAM BOWD</persName> </hi>. I live with my father, at 87, St. John Street—he keeps an eating-house—on 13th September, about 5 o'clock, I served the prisoner with two pennyworth of meat and one pennyworth of pudding—he</p>
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<p>gave me a florin, which I tried, and bent—I gave it to my father, and saw him bend it—I told the prisoner it was bad—he said that his mother gave it to him—he was given in custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-58" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-58" type="surname" value="BOWD"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-58" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BOWD</persName> </hi>. I am the father of the last witness—he gave me a bad florin, which I broke with my teeth, and asked the prisoner how many more he had got—he said "None"—I asked him where he got that—he said that his mother gave it to him, and that she kept a shop at 3, Berkley Street—I gave custody.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-59" type="given" value="BERNARD"/>BERNARD DOOLET</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 27). I took the prisoner, and received this florin—he said that he got it from his mother, and did not know it was bad—I took him to the station, and found on him two shillings, a sixpence, and 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers—he gave his address 3, Berkley Court, which was false.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-60" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-60" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This florin is bad.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-799-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-61" type="surname" value="FAWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-61" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD FAWELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman R</hi> 269). I produce a certificate—(
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi> "Charles Baker, convicted of uttering, April, 1870, four months' imprison
<lb/>ment ")—that refers to the prisoner—I was present, and am sure he is the person.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Brannan stated that when the prisoner came out of gaol he was met at the door by his former companions, who dragged him into this offence and that he was rather an object of pity than of punishments—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS VIDO</hi> (36)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18701024-800-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-800-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Feloniously having in his possession a machine used for coining.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HOLLINGS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-63" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-63" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES SLINGSBURY</persName> </hi>. I keep the White Hart, Windmill Street, Tottenham Court Road—on 13th October I served the prisoner with a half-quartern of gin—he gave me a florin—I put it between my teeth, and found it was not good—I gave him a good shilling, and directly he left I followed him to Hinway Street—he went into the Blue Posts, and I spoke to Reilley, who was in plain clothes, and went into the centre bar, and told the people there to see what he gave—he changed 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of coppers, and came out; I followed him, with Reilley, to where he lived—Fisher then came up.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-64" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-64" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD FISHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer E</hi>). On the afternoon of 13th October, Slingsbury told me something, and I went to 33, Dudley Street, to the top room back—there are thirteen rooms in the house—I tried the door, it was shut; we forced it open, and the prisoner was sitting on the ground, with his back against the door—I asked him where the florin was, which he attempted to pan about 2 o'clock—he made no answer—I asked him if he had any more about him—he said "No"—I removed his hand from a box, which I opened with a key of my own, and found fifty-five florins, 153 sixpences, and one shilling, all counterfeit—I found a bad shilling and sixpence on the floor, where he had been sitting—I took him to the station, and then returned, and found a galvanic battery, a crucible, a packet of Plaster of Paris, two bottles of acid, two files, three copper wires, which appeared to have been recently used, a ladle, with fused metal in it, and other things in this box—the prisoner had been drinking, but knew perfectly well what he was about—I tried the padlock with a key Reilly gave me, and it fitted.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-65" type="surname" value="BOYELL"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-65" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BOYELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer E</hi>). I accompanied Fisher to 33, Dudley Street, and took possession of some bottles of acid—I saw the other things found—the prisoner was shuffling in the yard, as if he had swallowed something,</p>
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<p>and the divisional surgeon was sent for to examine him—the prisoner said that he had now lost his liberty, and he thought he was entirely done for.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I never made such a remark.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-66" type="surname" value="REILLY"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-66" type="given" value="THEODORE"/>THEODORE REILLY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 113). I was with Fisher—I went to the station and took a door-key from the prisoner, with a box key tied to it—I tried the key of the room, but did not see Fisher try the key of the box—I found on the prisoner 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., good money, and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in bronze.</p>
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<persName id="t18701024-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-67" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-67" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-67" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY JONES</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Edward Jones, of Dudley Street—the prisoner has lived five or six months in the third floor back—there the padlock on his door, which he always locked when he went out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I apply to you to allow me something towards repair
<lb/>ing my room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yea, to paper and repair it—that was deducted out of the week's rent.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-68" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-68" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-68" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. Here are 154 sixpences of 1842 and other dates, principally in on unfinished state, but some are finished; some hare not passed through the battery, others have—here are fifty-five bad florins, in a rough state, with the gets broken off—these sixpences are of 1862, and from the same mould as many of those produced—I tell that by certain marks in the good coin being reproduced here—the material is pewter—here are all the implements necessary for making bad money, to a large extent; a battery, acids, files, with white metal in their teeth, plaster of Paris, to make the moulds, copper wire, and a ladle containing white metal.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner produced a written defence, stating he had bought a boot upon electro-plating, and was practising the art when he was tempted by a man to plate this base coin for him; and that he only used the plaster of Paris to repair holes in the walls of his room.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-800-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FRANCIS KUYPER</hi> (25)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-70" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-70" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Peter Thompson, who keep the Baltic Arms, Shadwell—on 15th September, about 8 p.m., I served the prisoner with a pint of ale, which he paid for with coppers—he then asked for a half-ounce of tobacco, and gave me a half-crown—I put it in the till, where there was no other, between 8 and 9 o'clock—my husband took it out between 11 and 12 o'clock, and gave it to me—I put it in a cup
<lb/>board by itself—I saw my husband take it from the till; there was no other there—nobody had been serving but him and me—on 25th September, about 8.30, the prisoner came again, with three men—one of them called for a pot of half-and-half, and gave me a good florin—the prisoner after
<lb/>wards called for another pot, and gave me a half-crown, which I gave to my boy Roe to get changed—he came back with the half-crown, and a constable.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-71" type="given" value="PETER"/>PETER THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. On 15th September, my wife and I were in the bar—I opened the till between 11 and 12 o'clock, and found a bad half-crown—there was no other half-crown there—we took no other that evening—I gave it to my wife, who put it in a cupboard.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-72" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-72" type="surname" value="ROE"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-72" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ROE</persName> </hi>. I am in Mr. Thompson's service—on 25th September, Mrs. Thompson gave me a half-crown to get change—I went outside the door, put it to my mouth, bent it, and fetched two constables.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-73" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-73" type="surname" value="SUTTON"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-73" type="given" value="CORNELIUS"/>CORNELIUS SUTTON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). I received this half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)</p>
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<p>from Mrs. Thompson, and this other from Roe—I took the prisoner—he was searched, and two good shillings and four pennies were found on him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> That was the change of the half-crown.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-74" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-74" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-74" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-crown is bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I have been in prison ever since the 25th of last month, and I think that is quite sufficient for what I have done—I was never near the house on the 15th.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH JONES</hi> (27)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-76" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-76" type="surname" value="BELL"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-76" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN BELL</persName> </hi>, I am the wife of Thomas Bell, tobacconist, of 141, St. John Street Road—on 16th September, I served the prisoner with a 1/2lb. of biscuits, which came to 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a half-crown—I told her it was bad—she said she did not know it—I told her that my shop-woman had taken another one, and asked her if she had passed it—she denied it, and said she had never been there before—I gave her in charge with the half-crown.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-77" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-77" type="surname" value="PHILLIPS"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-77" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS PHILLIPS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G R</hi> 15). I took the prisoner, and received this half-crown—I found a key oil her at the station, which I took to the address she gave—it opened the door of a room there, and I found a bad half-crown on the mantelpiece, and in a cupboard a purse containing nine half-crowns, twelve florins, five shillings, and nine sixpences, all bad, and separately wrapped in tissue paper—in another room, which was not looked, then were two children—next morning, going to the Court, I told the prisoner what money I had found in her room, and showed her the purse—she said nothing, but began to cry.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you make inquiries, and find that she was living there with a man as his wife?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I have tried to take the man, but have not been able—I did not find her marriage certificate.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-78" type="surname" value="BRYANT"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-78" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN BRYANT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector G.</hi>) On 16th of September the primer was brought to the station, I got a key from her and gave it to a constable with directions—after some time he came back and brought a pane containing a quantity of counterfeit coin—I went back with him to the home and went up stairs with him and the landlady to the first-floor front room, and on the top shelf of a cupboard a florin and seven half-crowns, each wrapped in tissue paper, also a file with white metal in the teeth.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you find a rent book?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I find in it "Received of Mr. Jones one week 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 12th 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-79" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-79" type="given" value="SUSAN"/>SUSAN ROGERS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of William Rogers, of 7, Chapel Place, Liverpool Road—the prisoner has lodged with me three weeks, with a person who passed as her husband, and three children—they occupied the front and back rooms, first-floor.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did they live as man and wife in the name of Jones?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—the three children called them mother and father.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-80" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. The half-crown passed is bad, and of 1836—the other coins are bad, and among the half-crowns here are eleven from the same mould as the first.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-81" type="given" value="AGUILAR"/>AGUILAR CULVER</persName> </hi>. I live at 7
<hi rend="smallCaps">A</hi>, Paradise Row, Bethnal Green—I have</p>
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<p>known the prisoner ever since she was a girl; she worked with me at one time and afterwards for me—she was always well conducted and honest—she left me to be married five or six years ago.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. What age do you take her to be?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Twenty-five or twenty-six—her maiden name was Elizabeth Beeston—and I believe she lived in Hart's Lane, Bethnal Green—it may be eight years since she left me—I always understood she was married and that she had a very bad husband—I do not know his Christian name—(
<hi rend="italic">The marriage certificate dated Novembers,</hi> 1862,
<hi rend="italic">was not put in, it being only signed with two crosses.</hi>)
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSES. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> 31 J.
<hi rend="smallCaps">O'CONNELL</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Harris.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-84" type="given" value="MATILDA"/>MATILDA KELL</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Robert Kell, a beer-seller, of Rochoter Row—on Saturday night, 29th August, at 11.30, I served the prisoners with a pint of
<hi rend="italic">Cooper,</hi> which came to 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. they both drank of it—Harris gave me a half-crown, which I put in the till, and gave him the change, there was no other half-crown there—when they left I took the half-crown out and bought some meat with it, and the butcher's wife bit a piece of it and gave it back—I brought it back and put it in a drawer—on 10th September, at 7 o'clock, Watson came for a glass of bitter and stout, 'she gave me a half-crown—I had not change in the till, took it into the parlour and found it was bad—I locked the door—she asked me if I was going to give her the change—I said I was when a policeman came—a policeman did come, and I told him in her bearing that she had been then before with a man and passed a bad half-crown—she said she had not been in the house before, but I knew her when she came in—I gave her in charge with the half-crowns.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you lodgers?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, they are married people—I had received money from them that night, but no half-crowns—I put the money I received from them in the till—their name is Rawlings—I had no half-crowns in the house, and there was no other money in the till, I had taken it out at 11.15—I had never seen Harris before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Watson. Q.</hi> Can you swear to me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, by that scar under your chin.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-85" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-85" type="given" value="HANNAH"/>HANNAH ROLAND</persName> </hi>. I lived at this time in Mrs. Kell's house—on the 27th August, at 11.30, I saw the prisoners served with a pint of
<hi rend="italic">Cooper</hi>—Harris put down a half-crown, which the landlord put in the till—they stayed ten minutes—on the 10th September I saw Watson before she got to the bar, the looked in first and then came in and was served with something—the landlord spoke to me and I fetched a constable.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were you in the beer-house on the 27th August?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—my husband was with me the night Watson was there, but not on the 27th—I had paid my rent that night previous to the prisoners coming in; I paid two half-crowns, a shilling, and a sixpence, the rent was 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and there was some money I borrowed, and some I owed for beer—when the half-crown was given by the man, the change was taken from the till; I have no doubt about that; these were the last two persons in the bar—I was in the beer-house five or ten minutes before they cwne in—have no doubt that when the half-crown was paid the change was taken from the till.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. O'CONNBLL</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you pay your rent about two o'clock?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yea, or a little after—I did not see what the landlord did with it, nor did I see what was in the till when the change was taken out.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where were you standing when the man paid the half-crown?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the customer's side of the bar—I could see the till, but could not see whether it was empty or full.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Walson. Q.</hi> Were you in the box where I was when I gave the half-crown?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-86" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-86" type="given" value="SQUIRE"/>SQUIRE WHITE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). I was called and took Watson—I asked her where she lived—she said she was a respectable woman, and lived at the Stores, meaning Pimlioo Stores—I received these two half-crowns from Mrs. Kell.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-87" type="given" value="MORGAN"/>MORGAN MORGAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Detective Officer</hi>). On 10th September I took Harris it a public-house in Peter Street—he was put with several other men at the station, and both the female witnesses identified him—in consequence of what took place at the station I went to the house where I knew the prisoners had lived as man and wife for two or three months—I found the door burst open and everything ransacked, and the bed upset.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were there other persons in the house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—Upson, another officer, had pointed out the house to me a few days before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Watson.</hi> I never spoke to the man in my life, I only live in the neigh-bourhood.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-88" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-88" type="surname" value="GRANT"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-88" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GRANT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 289). On 10th September I was on duty at the station when the prisoners were brought there—they were placed in separate cells; but at the latter part of the evening a woman, who was drunk, was placed in Watson's cell—after that, at 9.30, Harris cried out "Boyce" twice, and said "We are strangers, mind; we don't know one another"—she said "What has come of Tom and Dick?"—he said "They are all right, surely someone will go to the house and get their box away before these b—y sods go there"—she said "Yes, by God, someone will go to the house and turn the place over before they get there"—he said "Good night; we are strangers"—I made this memorandum of the conver
<lb/>sion at 10.30.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you give evidence before the Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I was not called—there was not another man next to Harris's cell—there was another man besides him—there were four prisoners altogether—the prisoners were taken in separately—I do not know whether Harris was aware that Watson was in custody—Watson was brought in first.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Watson. Q.</hi> Was not the other woman locked up for stealing a pipe, and was not she talking to the man in the next cell?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, there were two empty cells between them, and I was sitting in the passage between them, and could hear where the voices came from, but they could not see me—the two females were in the same cell—I know your voice perfectly well—I have known you some years, going about. Westminster.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-89" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-89" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two half-crowns are bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Watson's Defence.</hi> I never was in the house before, and know nothing about it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-803-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-803-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">They were further charged with previous convictions; Watson in December,</hi> 1868,
<hi rend="italic">and Harris in January,</hi> 1868,
<hi rend="italic">to which they both</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HARRIS</hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-803-18701024 t18701024-803-punishment-17"/>Seven Years Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WATSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-803-18701024 t18701024-803-punishment-18"/>Fifteen Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, October</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1870.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLLINS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for Gale, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT PARRY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for Stewart.</hi> </p>
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<lb/>wards him, he held up his finger, and I went to him with Carter—he said "Holloa, how are you, what will you have"—I said "I have not the pleasure of knowing you, sir"—he said "Oh, never mind, have a drop of brandy, and I will tell you who I am; you know me"—we each had 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of brandy—he said "You have Gale in custody, have you not"—I said "Yes"—he said "He is a particular friend of mine, I have known him for a long time; I am told that all the evidence rests upon you two (that was Carter and me, who were standing together) any amount of money in reason you can have, if you will but get him off"—I said "We don't want any money"—we had just then drank up the brandy and were about to go out, and he said "Look here, here is my card,"he gave me his card and said "Go home, think it over, and meet me to
<lb/>morrow evening, at 7 o'clock, at the Clock House, Leather Lane"—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the card he gave me, "F. Stewart, iron-merchant, 48, Southampton Street, St. John Street, Clerkenwell. Smith's shops cleared on the shortest notice"—I said "Well, I won't promise you that we will meet you there, he said "I will wait from 7 till half-past, to see if you come"—we then went</p>
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<lb/>gether directly—Stewart said "Good evening, here is my friend Gale, I want you to do what you can for him, I know you can get him off if you like"—I said "I can't say anything about that"—Gale said it was a very bad job, he had got a large family, he hoped we would do what we could—Stewart said "To show you I am genuine, I will give you 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. now, and I will give you 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to
<lb/>morrow, and 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. after the case is settled; I wont give it you in here, come outside, there is somebody sitting over the other side, I don't know who they are"—Gale was sitting close to us at this time, he could hear what was said—we all four went out into the Gray's Inn Road—there is a dead wall there—Stewart then handed a 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note—Gale was standing just facing him—we were all four standing together, looking at each other—Stewart said "If you come down to my place to-morrow I will bund you—, no, I will not do that; if you don't come to my place to-morrow I will come down to the Sessions House, about 12 or 1 o'clock, and I will give you the other 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. then, and the other 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. after the case is settled, malting altogether 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—I said I could not promise whether I would go to his house—I said "I don't think we shall come there"—he said "Then I will come to the Sessions"—I said "You shall see someone there"—we afterwards went to the Red Lion, and had some lemonade, and parted—as soon as I came out of the public-house, Sergeant Kerley had been standing outside, watching us, and I handed the 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note to him—this is it—(
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>—I wrote my name on it, and Kerley and Carter also wrote theirs—we reported what had occurred to Superintendent Thomson, and received further instructions—next day, Wednesday, we were at the Sessions House till 2 o'clock, and saw no one—in going home we had to cross Farringdon Street; a man came up and made a communication to us, in consequence of which we went to the Farringdon Street Railway Station, at 7 o'clock that evening, and saw Gale there—he said "I am very sorry we could not meet you this morning, being very busy; you must not stop here, I will meet you up at the Yorkshire Grey in half-an-hour or so"—we saw Sergeant Kerley, and we went to the Yorkshire Grey, and saw Gale there—said he was very sorry, he had been very busy "and another thing,"he said "I am rather short of cash; I lent some money out a short time ago, but I have two bills, one for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., twelve months after date; you can have that if you like"—he shewed it to me, and I fancy there was a little more than 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 32
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd, I think—I told him I would not take that—lie then</p>
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<p>said "Meet me to-morrow morning at 9 o'clock here, or a little after, I will see Stewart, I know he has been very busy, he is clearing some iron away from the House of Correction"—he said he would bring the remainder of the money, that was 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Kerley was still outside—on our return to the station we reported what had occurred to the superintendent—about 9.30 next morning, Thursday, by instructions, we met Gale at the Yorkshire Grey—he said "My friend Stewart is not coming up yet, can you wait half-an-hour?"—I said "We hare got some business to attend to"—he said "I won't be long; you might come part of the way, come down as far as Hatton Garden, to the Globe public-house"—we waited outside the Globe till he came—he said "Come inside"—we went inside, and he there gave me a 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note and five sovereigns—he said "I have not seen Stewart; but if you will meet me to-night, at 8.30, I shall see him in the meantime, and will see you to-night at the Yorkshire Grey—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note—I handed it to Kerley, with the five sovereigns, as soon as we came out
<lb/>side the public-house—we again made a communication to the superintend
<lb/>dent, and a warrant was applied for, before Sir Thomas Henry, to arrest the prisoners—that same night I and Carter went to the Yorkshire Grey, and saw Gale—he said Stewart was not come yet, he knew he had been very busy, he had hardly had time to get home and clean himself, "we will walk down that way, and I will go down to his house"—we went to Northampton Street, and Gale went to a house which he said was Stewart's—we remained at the top of the street; he came back and said "He is not in, he will be in in a few minutes"—whilst he was speaking Sergeant Kerley came up and took him into custody—he was taken to the station—Stewart was after wards brought there—he was going to say something—the superintendent said "Wait a moment, allow me to say that anything you say will be given in evidence against you"—Stewart then said he should not have done it if it had not been for Gale persuading him to do so, and Gale said "Shut up, don't say nothing here"—at the Police Court I gave evidence against the prisoner—Mr. Lewis, senior, defended Stewart—Stewart was about to say something, and Mr. Lewis told him to be quiet—he said "No, I will not; all the officer has stated is quite correct, and I don't want to tell any falsehood"—Mr. Lewis kept persuading him to hold his noise, and not to say any more, and Sir Thomas Henry said "As your solicitor advises you not to say anything, we will not take it down"—at the trial of Gale, Eley and Floyd, Gale was acquitted—I gave evidence against him at the trial as to what I knew of it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Stewart had nothing to do with that—he was not implicated at all in the charge?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was not—in whatever he did I understood him to be acting for his friend Gale—he said he believed Gale to be perfectly innocent—I did not tell the Jury who tried Gale about these attempts made upon us—there was not a word allowed to he said about it—I don't think the Jury knew anything about it—something was said between the Counsel and Mr. Serjeant Cox, but not to the Jury—I gave my evidence, but not about what Gale had said to me—Gale said "I am innocent, but that man did me who came up and said I was not there; he would swear anything"—that referred to a man named Groves, I think—he did not say that he felt sure he should be acquitted but for that man—he kept asking us "I can depend upon you; I feel sure I shall get off"—on the first occasion we had some brandy with Stewart, and talked to him in a friendly way; we listened to what he said—I. saw "We</p>
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<p>shall have nothing to do with it, we don't want any money"—I met him again, from instructions I received from my superior officer—Superinten
<lb/>dent Thomson ordered us to go and see him—he did not tell us to lead him on—we were instructed to take money if it was offered—we did not hold oat any prospect that we would alter our evidence—we took refresh
<lb/>ments with them—they paid for it on two or three occasions, and I paid for it sometimes—twice, I think, I paid for what they had—that was not to induce them to believe I would do anything wrong—I never told them that I would alter or suppress my evidence—I don't know that we said anything to induce them to believe so; they might infer it from what we said, very likely; still we did not say anything—I had four interviews with them altogether, I believe—I did not tell them that I had reported the matter to Superintendent Thomson.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long have you been in the fine?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Eleven years—I have been in plain clothes for the last eight years—I am known as a detective officer—Carter and I have been in a great number of cases together—Gale was not present at the first inter
<lb/>view at the public-house—the last interview with Gale was when the 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note and the five sovereigns were given—that was on the Thursday, he was tried on the Friday—I don't know that Gale's defence was that he was not present at his shop when the articles were brought there—he had the auctioneer present at whose sale he was, to show that he was elsewhere—the Jury did not stop the case—they said they believed the wife must have taken in the brass instead of the husband—he was churchwarden—a great number of his friends attended on the Friday—I was not asked about receiving money from him—Mr. Pater proposed to prove it, and Mr. Serjeant Cox objected—that was said privately—Mr. Pater went close up to the bench—the Jury could not hear it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was any attorney employed to conduct the prosecu
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, the depositions were handed to Mr. Pater—it was in the Yorkshire Grey that Gale said "That man did me,"on the Wednesday evening—I think the man Grove, or some such name, was bound over for the prosecution, and he was called for the defence—he is a friend of Gale's, and lives just opposite—I think the name is Milling—he was called for the defence before Sir Thomas Henry—Sir Thomas cross-examined him—my salary is 28
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week, allowing something for plain clothes; about 29
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I made my report in writing, every night, of what had occurred.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When he said "That man will do me,"did he not add "When he said I was there?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He did, but he afterwards said "Well, I was there, but he ought not to have said so, that was arranged before"—I stated that at the Police Court."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did not Stewart say that he was very sorry for Gale, who had a large business, two or three shops, and a family of children; that he had got into this difficulty, and he should like to see him out of it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He did—he also said "I am a respectable man; I have had a contract for repairs at the House of Correction, and to show you who I am, here is my card,"and then he gave me his card.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-98" type="surname" value="CARTER"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-98" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT CARTER</persName> </hi>. I am an officer of the
<hi rend="italic">E</hi> Division, and act in plain clothes—(
<hi rend="italic">The evidence of this witness was precisely to the same effect as that of the last witness, and he was not cross-examined.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-99" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-99" type="surname" value="LAMBERT"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-99" type="given" value="FRANCES"/>FRANCES LAMBERT</persName> </hi>. I am the daughter of Joseph Lambert, who keeps the Fox and French Horn, Clerkenwell Green—on the 15th August, between</p>
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<p>12 and 1 o'clock in the day, I saw the prisoner Stewart in our house—I also saw Chamberlain and Carter there in a different compartment—Stewart told me he wished to speak to the man in the grey suit, that was Chamber-lain—I then communicated with Chamberlain, and afterwards saw him, Stewart, and Carter, talking together in the same compartment.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-100" type="surname" value="KERLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-100" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK KERLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant E</hi>). On Tuesday evening, 16th August, in consequence of instructions from Superintendent Thomson I went to the Clock House Tavern, Leather Lane, and saw Chamberlain, Carter, and Stewart, there—I was not near enough to hear the conversation—I was in plain clothes—I saw them in conversation, and afterwards saw them separate—the two officers went to the Yorkshire Grey, I followed and saw them in conversation with Gale and Stewart in the parlour—they all four went out together into the Gray's Inn Road—I then saw Stewart take a pocket-book from his pocket, take a piece of paper from it and hand it to Chamberlain; I was not near enough to see what it was; after some little conversation they separated, and Chamberlain then gave me the 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note that has been produced, I wrote my name on it—next day I went to the Sessions House—about 7 in the evening I went to the Farringdon Street Station and saw Gale there—he spoke to the two officers, and they separated—I afterwards went to the Yorkshire Grey and there saw Gale and the two officers in conversation—next morning I went to the Globe in Hatton Garden, and saw the two officers and Gale go into the public-home together, I did not see what took place, the officers afterwards gave me this 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note and five sovereigns—I went to the Yorkshire Grey on the Thurs
<lb/>day when the warrant had been obtained, and saw Gale and the officers then—Gale went to Northampton Street, Islington, he knocked at a door and returned a few minutes afterwards—I went up to him and told him I was a detective officer from Bow Street, and I held a warrant for his apprehend
<lb/>sion under Sir Thomas Henry, and I said "I will read it to you"—he said "No, don't do that"—I said "It is for conspiracy and bribery, bribing two officers"—he said "It is quite right" and I think he said "I am very sorry, but I should not have done it if it had not been for my friends; it was the wish of my friends that it should be done, I had rather the case stood on its own merits, and I think I should have got off"—I took him to the station, and returned to Northampton Street about 11 o'clock, I saw Stewart there in the street—I asked him if his name was Stewart—he said "Yet, Thomas Stewart"—I told him I was a detective officer and had a warrant for his apprehension, under Sir Thomas Henry, for conspiracy and bribing two officers—he said "I never done anything of the kind"—I took him to the station and he was charged; the charge was read over to him by Superintendent Thomson, and he said "What I have done was at the wish of Gale that it should be done—Gale said "Its no good saying anything now, it is done."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-101" type="surname" value="THOMSON"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-101" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES THOMSON</persName> </hi>. I am Superintendent of the
<hi rend="italic">E</hi> Division of Police—on 15th August I received a report in writing from Carter and Chamberlain—I gave them certain instructions—reports were given to me by them from time to time, not quite daily—the 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes were brought to me by Sergeant Kerley—I was at the station at Bow Street on the 18th August when the prisoners were brought in under the warrant, I read the warrant to them, it charged them with conspiring to prevent the due course of law and justice, by offering to bribe the officers—Stewart said that what he did was to serve Gale—Gale said he would not bay any thing.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-102" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BOATWRIGHT</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the office of the Clerk of the Peace for the County of Middlesex—I produce the original indictment found by the Grand Jury at the Sessions commencing 15th August, against two persona for house-breaking, and Gale for receiving—I also produce the original de
<lb/>positions relating to that matter, and the recognizance of Gale who was out on bail, to meet the charge, also the recognizances of the witnesses who were bound over to prosecute, including Chamberlain and Carter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A number of witness deposed to the good character of the prisoners.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-805-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-805-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS ARTHUR</hi> </persName>,
<rs id="t18701024-806-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18701024-806-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-806-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/>Unlawfully conspiring, with
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-104" type="surname" value="LOUSADA"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-104" type="given" value="ERNEST DE"/>Ernest De Lousada</persName>, to obtain 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-105" type="surname" value="FORREST"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-806-offence-1 t18701024-name-105"/>David Forrest</persName> by false pretences.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>—to obtain 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BESLET</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> F. H.
<hi rend="smallCaps">LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-106" type="surname" value="SHARP"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-106" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SHARP</persName> </hi>. I keep a shop in the Strand—I know the prisoner Arthur, and also a person calling himself the Count De Lousada—I have known the Count about eighteen months, and the prisoner about six weeks—I produce a bill of exchange, accepted by T. Arthur & Co., for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-107" type="surname" value="ARTHUR"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-107" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ARTHUR</persName> </hi>. I am the chief of the firm of John Arthur & Co., bankers and wine merchants, Rue de Castilion, and agents to the British Embassy in Paris—the prisoner is related to me—I have known him from his infancy, more or less—this is his signature across this bill of exchange for 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-108" type="surname" value="SHARP"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-108" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SHARP</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I received that bill of exchange from De Lousada on 21st July—I gave him 81. for it—(
<hi rend="italic">The bill of exchange was dated 16th July,</hi> 1870,
<hi rend="italic">drawn by E. De Lousada on Messrs. T. Arthur & Co.,</hi> 29,
<hi rend="italic">Sue Taitbout, Paris, at two months, for</hi> 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">and accepted "Thomas Arthur & Co."</hi>)—I held that bill until it came to maturity—I was compelled to—it was not met—the bill was sent to Paris and came back with no reply—when I heard the bill was not paid I wrote to the prisoner, at the Charing Cross Hotel, to come to see me, and he came to my place, a day or two after it was due, in the evening, with the Count De Lousada—I asked him what he was going to do about this bill—he said well, I must let it be a little while, and he would pay it, but that there were certain persons making inquiries about his character, and I was not to satisfy them—I have some other papers with the same signature as the acceptance to the bill—I believe them to be the same—nothing was said by Arthur at any time in reference to giving back those papers—(
<hi rend="italic">Read:</hi> "5th July, 1870, 29, Rue Taitbout; signed Thomas Arthur & Co., to the Count E. De Lousada. Sir, We have just received official information from the United States, from the trustees, that the sum of 8600 francs will be paid to us on your behalf, on or about the 6th August next; we write without delay, judging the communication to be agreeable to you"—(
<hi rend="italic">Another letter, dated 23rd July,</hi> 1870,
<hi rend="italic">to George sharp, London, from the prisoner, stated that the draft for</hi> 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">would be duly honoured at the date fixed therein</hi>)—I saw the defendant and De Lousada about ten days or a fortnight afterwards, at 17, St. Swithin's Lane, the office of a Mr. Dumaa—the Count then said the best thing I could do was to give him up all the documents and run a bill for a month—that was said in the presence of Arthur—I refused to do so—I asked how it was that the bill was not paid, and they said they had not received the money then—I have not had a farthing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALPE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The bill was to become due when?</p>
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<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On 19th September—it was accepted, payable in Paris—I know that by the orders of the Prussian Government payments have been postponed until October—the Count and the defendant told me so, and from then to November—I heard that the office in Paris was shut up.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-109" type="surname" value="COX"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-109" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL COX</persName> </hi>. I am hall-porter at the Cannon Street Hotel—I know the defendant, and a person calling himself the Count De Lousada—I have known them about two months—they both stayed in the hotel—I think they came there in July; I could not be certain on that point—I never knew De Lousada to stay in the hotel before—they had separate rooms—De Lousada came there first, and the prisoner three or four days after-wards—they had their meals in the coffee-room—I did lot see them there, and don't know whether they had meals together or not—I saw them together frequently from the time they came there—De Lousada left the hotel for a short time about 31st August—he either left on that date, or returned on that date, I am not sure which—he was away about a fortnight—I am not sure as to the date—I don't remember that I received any letters during his absence—I saw Arthur while De Lousada was away—he did not give me any directions as to De Lousada's letters—I had a conver
<lb/>sation with him about Lousada—I understood from Mr. Arthur that the Count was at Lichfield, and the letters I received from Mr. Arthur were to be sent there—it may be as well to mention that Mr. Arthur was not perma
<lb/>nently staying at the hotel at the time, he was staying in the country at a place called Sutton, and he called daily to see if there were letters for him—I was always present when Mr. Arthur came and inquired for Lousada—I am always in the hall—I could not say positively how often he came after the Count returned from the country—he was there nearly daily—I did not have any directions from Lousada with reference to Arthur—I recollect a day when a Mr. Cresswell and Mr. Mappin came to the hotel—I did not show them anywhere—I could not say that they had an interview with Lousada—I don't know whether they saw anything of Arthur whilst they were at the hotel—later in the day to which you refer Mr. Arthur came in from Sutton to join the mail-train for the Continent, and he said Mr. Cresswell was dining with the Count De Lousada—Mr. Arthur had also been there in the morning part—I did not take a message for him to the Count—I received some directions from Lousada about Arthur, and when Arthur came I announced him to the Count as a gentleman who wished to see him—I had not described him in that way before—that was in consequence of the directions I had received from Lousada—one of the gentlemen was with Lousada, who it was I can't say—I re
<lb/>member a rifle coming to the hotel for the Count Lousada with Mr. Cress
<lb/>well's card—Arthur told me that the rifle belonged to him as well as to the Count, and I was to keep it until the Count returned from Lichfield—I could not say that I have ever seen a third person in the company of Arthur and De Lousada—I don't know a person of the name of Simpson—I have received letters from time to time for the Count—I could not positively say that I received one on 25th August, for I don't take notice of dates—what letters I received I delivered to him—I don't know where the Count is now—from a memorandum I received a few days ago I have reason to believe he is not here—I can't say that the memorandum is in his writing—I received thin piece of paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) last Friday, I think—I have not seen anything of the Count—I can't say positively when I saw him last; to the best of my belief it was at the commencement of</p>
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<p>this month—I am not positive as to the date—I may not have seen him for the last three weeks—he was in London when I saw him—I don't know where he is now—I deliver the letters that come now according to the instructions on this card.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You are the porter, you say?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am the hall-porter; in the hall down below—I don't see what happens to persons except when they come in the door—the prisoner was staying in the hotel, and had rooms there—when he first came he stayed three or four nights—he afterwards went down into the country, and he only stopped occasionally, then he lost his train—he went to Sutton—I don't know that his father lives there—I have seen a gentleman come to the hotel, but I was not aware he was the prisoner's father—he told me he lived at Sutton.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-110" type="given" value="SIDNEY"/>SIDNEY SPENCER</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the Cannon Street Hotel—I know a person calling himself the Count De Lousada, as a visitor at the hotel I can't say how long I have known him; several weeks—I know the prisoner only by sight—Lousada was staying at the hotel in July last—I can't say whether Arthur came to see him—I don't see every visitor that comes into the hotel; but I have every reason to believe he did come there I have seen Arthur there while Lousada was at the hotel—I have known them to be in the hotel at the same time—I should not like to swear that I had seen them together; but to the best of my belief I have seen them together several times—the Count left the hotel for a short time—he wrote to me from York—I believe it was the time of the York Meeting—his letter stated that he would return to the hotel in a week or ton days—he was absent about three weeks—I had no communication with Arthur after that—I remember a rifle being brought to the hotel—I can't say when I last saw the Count De Lousada—I should think it was in August; bat I really can't say—I am only speaking from memory.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-111" type="given" value="JOHN STEPHENSON"/>JOHN STEPHENSON MOLE</persName> </hi>. I am a foreign railway contractor, and carry on business at 85, Gracechurch Street—I have known the prisoner about twelve months—it may be fifteen or eighteen—I knew him first in Paris as a commission agent—he had an office at 54, Rue Taitbout—he was not carrying on business as a banker, that I am aware of—I should think not—I met him casually at a refreshment place in Lombard Street, in August last—I remember having a conversation with Mr. Cresswell about him—I saw the prisoner both before and after that conversation—when I saw him the first time he said he was doing very well, and had an office at 29, Rue Taitbout, and he gave me a card with his address, and said he was doing a large business; he said he had arranged with the French government, and was contracting for them—I saw Mr. Cresswell three or four days after that, and then I saw Arthur again—he said that I had treated him very badly, and that I had ruined him from what I had said to Cresswell—he said I had stopped a transaction by which he would have made a considerable sum of money—he said it was a transaction for the purchase of some rifles, and that I had stopped the purchase—I told him that I had been asked a question, and had answered it—I met him again, I think, at Charing Cross—I said it was a very nasty business, and that I understood that Lousada had been arrested—he said he believed it was so—I said "Well, it is a very nasty business, they have subpoenaed me in the matter, and I would have nothing to do with it"—he went into a long statement about Cress
<lb/>well having sold rifles; but I did not understand it, and could not repeat it—I saw him again at the Cannon Street Station; but nothing of importance</p>
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<p>passed—I said "They tell me that the bills were sent to Paris to be accepted"—he said "Nothing of the kind, I went over to Paris and accepted them there"—he said "You told Cresswell that I had ten francs from you and I had not paid it"—that was true—when I saw Cresswell he made certain inquiries of me, and I answered him—some bills were shown to me by Cresswell, signed M. Arthur & Co."—the conversation I had with the prisoner afterwards had reference to my interview with Cresswell.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> He told you that he had expected to get a considerable profit on these rifles?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He did—I do not know that the French government was mentioned—he said that he had con
<lb/>tracts with the French government—he did not say what he bought the rifles for—no price was mentioned—the prisoner did owe me a few francs—it was the balance of some money I had lent him—he said that instead of his being put in the dock he meant to put Mr. Cresswell in the dock—I have heard that he has brought an action against Cresswell, long before these proceedings were commenced.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long had you lent him the ten francs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Probably nine months; it is a balance—that is not paid—Mr. Cresswell asked me about it, and I told him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-112" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT PACKMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Detective</hi>). On 13th September, I took the Count De Lousada into custody, on a warrant, at 17, St. Swithin's Lane, it the office of Mr. Dumas, on the second floor—I afterwards took the prisoner into custody at the Cannon Street Hotel, about 8.30 in the evening—he was pointed out to me—I went up to him, and said "Mr. Thomas Arthur, I believe"—he said "That is my name, sir"—I said "I have seen a gentleman, a friend of yours, this afternoon, the Count de Louaada"—I had one of the Count's cards in my pocket, and as I did not perhaps speak the name quite familiarly, I said "This gentleman"—he took the card and said "Yes, I know the Count very well"—I said "You have lately had some business transactions with him respecting some fire-arms"—he said "I have, pray who are you, and what is your business"—I said "I am a police officer; I hold a warrant for your arrest, consider yourself in custody, charged on a warrant for conspiring and receiving different sums of money of Mr. Forrest, and one amount, I understand, is a cheque for 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—the prisoner then said "You have made a very great mistake, my name is not Thomas Arthur at all; Thomas Arthur is now in Paris; if you go then you will find him"—I said "What nonsense, you have acknowledged your
<lb/>self to be Thomas Arthur; you say you know the Count, and have had business transactions with him respecting fire-arms very recently; you will have to accompany me to the police-station"—he then said "The Count wrote to me when I was in Paris respecting a contract for some fire-arms, but at that time I did not know but what it was a business transaction—respecting the 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque, he said "I never had one farthing of the 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque; the cheque was stopped, it was never cashed"—he was searched at the station, and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in cash was found upon him, a watch and chain, I think not gold, a blank cheque on the Bank of England, four or five French bills, and a quantity of papers and memorandums in a pocket-book, which were given up to the prisoner when he was discharged, at the Mansion House—I had not time to read them.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-113" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL COX</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I do not know Messrs. Wontner's clerk—I received a paper this mouth from a solicitor's clerk—I have it in my</p>
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<p>pocket, it is a subpoena—I received another paper, which I gave to Mr. Arthur on Saturday last—it was one similar to this (
<hi rend="italic">a notice to produce</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-114" type="surname" value="LEWIS"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-114" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE LEWIS</persName> </hi>. I am acting as attorney for the prisoner—I did not receive a notice to produce, of which this is a copy—I have not seen it since it was left at my office.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-115" type="given" value="CHARLES WILLIAM"/>CHARLES WILLIAM INMAN</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Wontner & Sons—this is a copy of a notice to produce—four copies were made of it—I served one upon the defendant by leaving it at the Cannon Street Hotel with the hall-porter, on Saturday last, and one on Messrs. Lewis & Lewis, on the same date—(
<hi rend="italic">This was a notice to produce all documents found on the de
<lb/>fendant when apprehended, particularly an agreement between the defendant, Louada and Simpson, with reference to rifles, and a cheque for</hi> 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">of David Forrest</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-116" type="surname" value="PACKMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-116" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT PACKMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). Mr. Forrest saw the document, and it was read before the Lord Mayor—I saw some blank forms similar to this in the prisoner's pocket-book, with "Thomas Arthur" engraved as a water-mark—there was one bill of execution filled up, payable at Glyn, Mills & Co., bankers, London, and a note called a Bank of Engraving note—that and the penny was all that I found representing money.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> As to that 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque, did he tell you that he never saw that cheque at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He did; he did not say he never saw it; he said he never had one farthing of it—I am not quite positive whether he said "I never saw it"—he did not say that he never saw Mr. Forrest in the transaction.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-117" type="surname" value="FORREST"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-117" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID FORREST</persName> </hi>. I am a merchant, of 34, Nicholas Lane—some docu
<lb/>ments were shown to me by Packman after the prisoner had been arrested—one of those documents was an agreement between Lousada, Arthur and Simpson, to sue me for a cheque for 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and to divide the proceedings amongst them, and that neither was to compromise the matter behind the others' back—that same document had reference to some rifle transaction, that they were to commence an action against me for damages for the non-delivery of those rifles, and that they were also to share the' proceeds of whatever they might get—I produce the two bills of exchange that were given to me—(
<hi rend="italic">One of these was dated 29th July,</hi> 1870,
<hi rend="italic">for</hi> 7,200
<hi rend="italic">francs, at three month, drawn by E. De Lousada upon T. Arthur & Co., Paris, and accepted "Thomas Arthur & Co.,"the other was dated 17th August,</hi> 1870,
<hi rend="italic">for</hi> 46,537
<hi rend="italic">francs.</hi> 50
<hi rend="italic">cents, at three months, drawn by the same upon the same and accepted, "Thomas Arthur & Co., Payable at the Bank of England.</hi>)—The words 29, Rue Taitbout, have been added in red ink—the Count De Lousada handed them to Mr. Cresswell and Mr. Cresswell handed them to me—Mr. Mappin was present at that interview, but I think he had gone away by the time the bills were handed to me—it was on the 25th August, about 12 o'clock—that was the same day that the 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque was parted with; that was my cheque, upon my bankers—it was given to the Count De Lousada, and he left my office with it—it was stopped at the bank about an hour after, I sent a note to the bank—that was in consequence of something I heard from Mr. Cresswell—it was after the bills were handed over that the 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. cheque was parted with—I should not have parted with it if the bills had not been handed over, or if I had known they were the acceptances of the prisoner; not unless I had known they were the bills of Arthur & Co., bankers, Paris.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> It was in consequence of something that was said to you by Lousada as to who these Arthurs were?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-806-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against the defendant far attempting to obtain</hi> 2000
<hi rend="italic">rifles and</hi> 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">of
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<hi rend="italic"> upon which so evidence being offered, a verdict of</hi>
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<interp inst="t18701024-806-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM DENVER</hi> (40)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS JOHNSON</hi> (19)</persName>,
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<interp inst="t18701024-808-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-808-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="theftFromPlace"/>stealing three watches and a brooch of
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-808-offence-1 t18701024-name-121"/>Charles Alexander More</persName>, in his dwelling-house, having been before convicted in December, 1867.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="italic">Several witnesses deposed to the prisoner's good character since his conviction.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-808-18701024 t18701024-808-punishment-20"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, October</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1870.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM JOHNSON</hi> (18)</persName>,
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN WADESON</hi> (21)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HOLLINGS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Wadeson.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-125" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-125" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH ROBERTS</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Boar's Head, Cannon Street—on 3rd October Johnson and Wadeson came in for two glasses, of stout and mild—Johnson tendered a bad florin—I broke it in three pieces in the tarter—he then gave me a good one; I put it on one side, and, at his request, returned him the largest piece of the other—I told Mr. Jones, junior, the landlord's son.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-126" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-126" type="given" value="JOHN STEPHEN"/>JOHN STEPHEN JONES</persName> </hi>. The last witness spoke to me, and I followed Johnson and Wadeson, and saw them speak to Beardmore, who went over to the other side of King William Street—the other two then crossed to the same side, and stopped at Abchurch Lane, where they all three stopped some minutes—I followed them down Lawrence Pountney Lane, and saw Johnson and Wadeson go into Mr. Bell's, 96, Cannon Street—I went into another compartment, spoke to Mr. Bell, and saw him with a bad florin in his hand—Johnson and Wadeson were present, and I could see Beardmore down the street—I afterwards pointed him out to a policeman, and he resisted—Johnson and Wadeson were also taken.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-127" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-127" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BELL</persName> </hi>. I am the son of Alfred Henry Bell, licensed victualler, 96, Cannon Street—on this evening Johnson and Wadeson came in, about 10.35, for two glasses of stout and bitter—Jones spoke to me, and when Johnson paid the barmaid I took a bad florin from her hand, jumped over the counter, went to the door and said that they should not go out—they said they did not want to—I marked the florin, and gave it to the inspector.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not Wadesou say that he was innocent, and had no bad coin about him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-128" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BUGG</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 719). On 3rd October I took Beardmore—he said "I know nothing of it,"and resisted—I handed him over to another officer, went to Mr. Bell's, and took Johnson and Wadeson—Johnson said at the station "I offered a bad two-shilling piece at the Boar's Head, and the barmaid tendered me a bad sixpence; I did not know that I</p>
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<p>had any bad money about me"—I searched him, and found a florin, a six
<lb/>pence, and 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., in bronze, all good—Jones gave me these two pieces of a counterfeit coin at the station—I saw it marked.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 590). I was with Bugg at the Cook and Bottle—I took Wadeson—he said that he did not leave work till 7 o'clock, and he then went to a meeting in the borough, where he fell in with the two other prisoners, and they went to have a glass of ale together—I found on him three shillings, two sixpences, and twopence, all good—he gave a cor
<lb/>rect address—Beardmore was searched by Tew, who has left the force.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> And I believe you discovered that Wadeson has been in the same employ for three years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yea.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Johnson's Defence.</hi> I travel with toys. I was induced to gamble with cards, and changed a half-sovereign. When I came out I had 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. I met Wadeson, and went with him. I ordered some ale, paid with a florin, and was told it was bad. Beardmore afterwards came up and asked us which was Abchurch Lane. We told him, and I said "You go in, and have the florin tried."I then saw Beardmore again, and we went into a public-bouse, called for some stout and mild, and said "Try that;"but she had no sooner taken it up than her master snatched it out of her hand, and would not let us out.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The letter was signed "W. C. Farmer" and was directed to Mr. Gibson</hi>.)</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had Eliza been about twelve months in the establishment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—she had access to the stores after they were delivered out—there was no male cook, she was employed in the male's kitchen one day a week, and on the other days in the female's kitchen, under Mrs. Brindley, who had a store, of which she kept the key—four other people were employed in that kitchen.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How many had Brindley to cook for every day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About 1200, she has been there about eighteen months, everybody must have a good character before they get in there, unless they are mad—the tea is given out to the kitchen maid—it is worth about 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per Ib.—you can get the tea out of the Asyluih as well as in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-149" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PRICE</persName> </hi>. I keep a beer-house opposite these arches in Water Lane, and have charge of them—these pieces of brass are part of an hydraulic engine belonging to the London, Chatham, and Dover Railway Company—I went to feed some fowls that morning and found the prisoner and another boy in the arch—I caught hold of him, he struggled and tried to slip out of his coat—the other ran away—the damage done to the engine is at least 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-815-18701024 t18701024-815-punishment-26"/>Eighteen Months Imprisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, October</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1870.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Lush.</hi> </p>
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<lb/>miah Driscol</persName>.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BOTTOMLEY</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-153" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS THAKE</persName> </hi>. I live at 13, Rich Street, Limehouse—last Thurs
<lb/>day night week I was passing the Lord Hood public-house, and saw Mr. Hobson, the landlord, shoving Driscol out—he pushed him down—he got up again, and went up the steps for his cap, and as he went up, the prisoner, with his two open hands, pushed him down, and he went on his back—he fell on the back of his head—I screamed, and ran for Driscol's wife.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was Driscol on the steps when the prisoner pushed him down?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, on the second step—there are four steps—they are very steep.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-154" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SHERMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 285). I was called to the Lord Hood about 11.30, and found the deceased lying on his back on the pavement, just outside the house—there was a little blood running from his head—I assisted in taking him into his house—when I came back I saw the prisoner putting up the shutters—he said I ought to have been there a little before, that he had had a bother with a man who had caught hold of the hair of bis head, and punched him three times—I afterwards Cook him into custody—he was potman at the Lord Hood—Driscol was then dead—he was about thirty-five years of age—he was in liquor; he smelt very strongly of liquor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-155" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN SAUNDERS</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, of 7, Rich Street, Limehouse—on Thurs
<lb/>day night, 13th October, I was on my door-step, next door to the Lord Hood—I saw the deceased put out twice, once by the landlord, and again by the</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-156" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT NIGHTINGALE</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, of 4, Commercial Terrace, Lime-house—I was called to the deceased at 2 o'clock in the morning of 14th October—I found him dead—death was caused by a fractured skull—it was an unusually thick skull—it would require great violence—he must have fallen heavily.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate:</hi> "I never even touched the man. He staggered and fell. I thought I was compelled to act under my master's instructions, and for the protection of his property, by keeping the unfortunate man out."</p>
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<lb/>RICK KINGWELL</hi> (25)</persName>, and
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-818-offence-1 t18701024-name-161"/>James Fairweather</persName>, with intent to kill and murder him.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>—With intent to do grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution;</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAM</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared for George,</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Shannon,</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLLINS</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">WARNER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Kingwell, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORACE BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for McCarthy</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-162" type="given" value="JAMES FAIR"/>JAMES FAIR WEATHER</persName> </hi>. I am a coachman—on 1st September last, I was a witness at Marlborough Street against the father of the prisoner George—the next day, at midday, I was passing down St. Martin's Lane, and met the prisoner George—I had some conversation with him as to what his passed on the previous day; it was a friendly conversation—I afterward went with him into a public-house, and tossed for tome beer—after that McCarthy and another man named Finch came in—they talked with George—they wanted to set a man named Brown on to me, for me to fight him—they wanted me and Brown to fight together—Brown was there—tab was sent for, and I got into it with George, McCarthy, and Finch—I did not know there was a second cab—we drove to Millfield Lane, Highsate—I then saw that another cab had been following us—I got out of the cab with George and the other two—I believe George paid for the cab—I saw persons get out of the other cab—George and the other two men led me into the field, arm-in-arm—they all came into the field—I was tripped up instantly I got into the field, in a second, by the two men and George
<lb/>the two men did it, and as soon as I was down George kicked me in the head, and they all got knocking me about fearfully—then George stepped away, and said "Finish the
<hi rend="italic">sod,</hi> and throw the b—into the water"—then the man Brown came up with a great lump of dry earth, as I lay on the ground, and
<hi rend="italic">throwed</hi> it on the side of my face—Brown was one of the other that was in the other cab—I could not swear whether any of the other prisoners struck or kicked me—I can't swear to Shannon—I lost my senser, and do not recollect anything till I got to the police-station—I was per
<lb/>suaded to go in the cab—George said he was going out to be a little jolly—he said "Let us go out, and have a cup of tea somewhere in the country"—it was not for the purpose of fighting Brown; they wanted me to fight him, and I would not.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What are you by trade?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A coachman to Dr. Bell, of Wardour Street—unfortunately I have lost my place since this has happened—I don't know anything of Dr. Bell's businces,</p>
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<p>only aa a coachman—I had not to post placards in urinals and places for him—I have been a witness; I was a witness in George's case—that was the only time—I know Mr. Raj, who is called Dr. Henry—I was never in his service—I know nothing about him—I believe he is a private gentleman—I don't know of his being tried at this Court for extorting money—I have been two or three years in Dr. Bell's employment—I did not say to George when I met him on this day "We have had your father, you b—, and now we will have you;" nothing of the sort—I was quite sober—Brown came into the public-house where George was—I did not say to George before I saw Brown "When you see Brown you can tell him that I will do for him"—I don't remember exactly what passed when Brown came in—I how they wanted to set Brown on to fight me in the public-house—I did not agree to fight—I put up my arms because Brown was coining at me—I did not spar—I did not challenge Brown to fight—I did not want to fight—I should think it was About an hour after that we got into the cab—I re
<lb/>mained in the public-house during that hour; they were drinking—I was drinking scarcely anything myself—I had a glass of stout, I might have had two glasses—I don't know that I had more—I don't know what I had—I was in the public-house an hour before they set Brown on to me—I went in the cab with George, McCarthy, and Finch—I don't know Finch—it was a four-wheeled cab—I don't know who went in the other cab; I believe kingwell, Shannon, and two or three more that I have not seen; Brown was one—ours was the first cab, I think—we started to go into the country, I did not know where—George took me—they did not mention any part of the country—I did not go to fight; I did not know what we were going for, only to be jolly—George was to pay for the cab, I believe; he said so—he very strongly invited me out with him—I believe we drove right away to Highgate—I don't remember stopping anywhere on the road—I don't remember going into any public-house in Tottenham Court Road—I did not see the other cab following me—nothing was said as we went along in the cab, only laughing and jolly—I did not know exactly what place I was going to—I did not hear any direction given to the cabman—I did not know what we were going for—it was at the Prince Albert public-house that I first met George; I went into another public-house, nearly opposite; I don't know the name of it—I have since heard it was the Fishmonger's Aram—George and Kingwell and all of them followed me'in there—I re
<lb/>mained there I should think half-an-hour—we had no words there, only they wanted to put Brown on to me there—George and I left there together, and got into the cab—we went there after leaving the Prince Albert—we went straight from the Fishmonger's Arms, in the cab—I had been in the Prince Albert before—nothing was said between us there—we were all on friendly terms there—there was nothing disagreeable there—the beginning of it was in the Fishmonger's Arms, when they wanted to put Brown on to me—George wanted me to fight Brown, I refused—I don't remember wanting to fight Brown, and Brown saying he did not want to get into any
<hi rend="italic">row</hi>—I did not strike Brown in the mouth—I did not say "Let me alone, I will kill him;"nothing of the kind—I did not say I must have it out with Brown, and I would have a cab called I don't remember stopping in Tottenham Court Road—I remember what took place when I was examined as a witness at Marlborough Street against George's father—I did not ask the prisoner to lend me some money to pay for the cab—I did not stop, and call for a quartern of</p>
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<p>gin to rub my knuckles, to make them hard—I don't remember any
<lb/>thing of the kind—when the cab stopped I did nut ask what we were going into the field for—I had not the slightest idea—I was led into the field.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What age are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About thirty-four or thirty-five—I do not remember Kingwell making use of any threats, or striking me at all.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. BROWN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you not say before the Magis
<lb/>trate" I can't say who struck me?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I beg your pardon, I have sworn to George kicking me on the head, and McCarthy knocking me about—I might say I was so knocked about that I did not recollect who did strike me or knock me about.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you suffered very severely in your head since this transaction?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have, and I am suffering now fearfully in my shoulder, and have a bad hand—I don't suppose I shall ever be the same man again—I am sure I have my witness to thank for my life.</p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-163" type="given" value="EUGENE AMBLER"/>EUGENE AMBLER DELANCY</persName> </hi>. I reside at 10, Norfolk Square, Hyde Park—I am employed in the General Post Office—on 2nd September, about 5.53, I was in a field near the Seven Ponds, Highgate, on the Hampstead Heath side—I saw several persons on the opposite side of the pond—they got out of two cabe—I distinctly saw them get out—I should may there were eight or nine of them—the ground slopes there—they came about half way down the slope, and there seemed to be a general attack upon Fairweather—I saw him knocked down several times—I saw Kingwell strike him with a whip or stick on the head—he was kicked whilst on the ground—I recognize McCarthy as one who kicked him—he was kicked by several; but I can't identify them all—I was approaching them all the while—there is a path-way between the ponds—I saw the prosecutor being dragged towards the pond by two men—I can't recognize than among the prisoners—I had two ladies with me, and I could not render any real assistance—I should say they could see me coming towards them—whilst he was lying on the ground, by the side of the pond, they flung clay in his face, and then left him—I was side or seven yards from him at that time—I could hear the
<hi rend="italic">thuds</hi>—I saw the beginning of it—I should say there is no pretence for saying that the prosecutor was fighting with any-body—there seemed to be a general attack upon him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see the cabs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did, in the lane—I saw them drive up one behind the other, the men got out and got over the stile into the field—they had got a very little distance from the stile before this took place, it was close to the stile where they began, but they kept on gradually getting nearer the ponds—I was advancing all the while—I was not near enough to hear what was said—I should recog
<lb/>nize the man that flung clay in the prosecutor's face, but he is not here.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you recognize all the prisoners as being there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, only Kingwell and McCarthy—I decline to swear to the others.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How far were you away when they first came into the field?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I might have been 100 yards from the lane—when the blow was struck with the stick I might have been thirty or forty yards off.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. BROWN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who do you say was the principal?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not recognize him amongst the prisoners—I can't swear to him—I did not shout out till I got clone enough to see the state the prosecutor was in</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see them leave the man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, two of them stayed longer than the others, I don't recognize those two.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-164" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-164" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK WATERHOUSE</persName> </hi>. I am a painter—on the 2nd September I was in Millfield Lane, Highgate—I saw two cabs drive up, and nine or ten per
<lb/>sons get out of them—I recognize the prisoners as four of them—they all got over a stile, and McCarthy his the prosecutor and knocked him down, and a man they call Brown ran up and kicked him in the head—they then picked him up and took him over another stile into another field towards the pond; they threw him down there, and then they hit and kicked him—I could not tell exactly which ones did it, but most all of them did, by what I could see of it—while the prosecutor was on the ground he rolled over on his back, and then two men jumped on him—they then came away from him and he was left by the pond—the men got into the cabs and went away—Kingwell, Shannon, and another were left behind—I could not tell whether Shannon did anything; he did nothing before they got down to the pond; when they got there most all of them hit him—I did not see Shannon do anything—I don't indentify the two that jumped on him, I don't think they are here.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> It was a skirmish, was it not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I mean there was a lot of them all round; the prosecutor was not fighting—the stile is about ten yards from where he was first struck—when the first blow was struck Kingwell was getting over the stile from the lane.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. BROWN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see Brown strike the pro
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He kicked him when he was down—I saw McCarthy pull Brown away when he did that—the three who were left behind followed after the others, behind the cabs, they did no more to him afterwards—they left him on the ground.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see Kingwell strike him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, when he was down by the pond, with his fist.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-165" type="surname" value="GALLOWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-165" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GALLOWAY</persName> </hi>. On the evening of 2nd September I was near the Highgate Ponds—I saw seven or eight men come down from the lane towards the ponds—I was at first about 200 yards off—I walked towards them; I thought at first they were larking—I saw one hit the other in the mouth and knock him down, and then a skirmish began—they beat him and pulled him down towards the pond—they kicked him—and one hit him with a riding whip—I was not near enough to indentify any of the men—I went for a policeman—I afterwards saw Fairweather—I could not find a policeman, and came back and met him at the corner of Millfield Lane, coming away, someone had got him by the arm—he was all over blood—he was bleeding from the mouth and all over the face, and smothered in blood—I believe they kicked him in the eye—he was the man I saw struck—I took him to a public-house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you ask Kingwell to give you the number of the cab?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, nor did be give it me; I did not take the number.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prosecutor appear to be drunk or sober?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I don't think he was drunk, he was in such a state, from being knocked about, you could hardly tell whether he was drunk or sober.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-166" type="surname" value="HARRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-166" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY HARRIS</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon—on the 3rd September I was called to see the prosecutor at his own residence—I found him in a very exhausted and low state, and I may say mutilated—he had been previously seen by a medical man, and had his wounds dressed—he could not put out</p>
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<p>his tongue—there were two or three contused lacerated wounds on hishead, I should imagine they had been caused by a stick or whip handle, which had struck him first on the forehead and then on the temple above the ear, some matter was coming from the wound on the forehead—he could not open his eyes at all—his arm was bruised, his upper lip cut and contused—he had suffered from concussion of the brain—he was scarcely conscious—I have attended him ever since—his memory is impaired, and it will be for some little time before he recovers it—he was in a very dangerous state when I first saw him, I thought he would not live more than twenty-four hours; his deposition was taken by my advice—he was in great pain, and occasionally delirious.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> In your opinion if his memory was impaired at all, would it not be impaired on all matters, and not in any particular?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There are some lucid moments in such cases—he might give some evidence and forget it—I should not think it likely that he would forget whether he went out to fight or not, or whether he stopped at a public-house and rubbed his knuckles with gin.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. BROWN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you think that the dull listless way in which he gave his evidence to-day is due to his memory being im
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where the memory is impaired are sometimes whole sets of facts blotted out?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, regularly blotted out.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-167" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-167" type="surname" value="RAWLINGS"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-167" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM RAWLINGS</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, of 41, Highgate Road—I was called to the station to see the prosecutor, about 7 o'clock in the evening of the 2nd September—he was fearfully cut and bruised about the face and body generally, there was one on the head in front, several on his face, one of his eyes was closed, his lip was cut through, his chin cut, and his arm bruised; they were contused wounds.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-168" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-168" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-168" type="given" value="MORRIS"/>MORRIS WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am a cab driver—on the 2nd September I was hired by Kingwell to go up to the Highgate Ponds, three or four got into my cab—I was first ordered to go to Tottenham Court Road, and another cab was called—I followed the other cab, we stopped at the Bull's Head in Tottenham Court Road, and then went on to Highgate—I carried Kingwell in my cab—I recognize the other prisoners as having been either in my cab or the other—they got out and went over a hill, and I lost sight of them—some of them afterwards came back and some stopped behind—they told me to stop for them when they got there—George paid for the cab—I did not sea who paid the other cabman—as we went back we pulled up at the King's Head at the corner of Tottenham Court Road, and from there drove to the Prince Albert—George paid me 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I don't know what became of the other cab—both cabs came back, I followed the other cab to the Prince Albert—the other prisoners came back in it—George was not in my cab going or re
<lb/>turning, but he paid me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say you stopped at the Bull's Head in going, did the prisoners go in there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, some, and some stopped in the cab, they were in there two or three minutes—the prosecutor was not in my cab—the other cabman is not here, I believe—I followed the other cab all the way—I did not notice exactly who was inside my cab, King
<lb/>well was outside with me—I can't remember anyone else, for I did not get off my box—they opened the door and shut it themselves.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know whether Shannon was in your cab?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I don't remember—I noticed him with an Alpine</p>
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<p>hat and a feather in it; I don't remember that he was very sick—I and the other cabman were standing be our horses' heads talking while this was going on—I don't believe Shannon rode back with me to Tottenham Court Road—I saw him at the King's Head after they came back, that is close upon three miles from Millfield Lane.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How was Kingwell dressed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe in a light coat—I did not notice his hat—he sat outside my cab, going—he did not return with me—I did not see anybody remain behind when the men went into the field.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-169" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-169" type="surname" value="DALTON"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-169" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DALTON</persName> </hi>. I am a detective—I took George into custody—I took him to the prosecutor's house, and showed him to him in the presence of others—he identified him as being the principal man in the assault, and said "This is the man that said 'Do for the b—, and throw him into the pond'"—he made no answer—on the 5th I took Shannon into custody—he said he was there, but never got out of the cab all the time—I took Kingwell; he said he knew nothing about it—McCarthy was taken in my presence; he said he knew nothing about it.</p>
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<persName id="t18701024-name-170" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-170" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-170" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-170" type="given" value="MORRIS"/>MORRIS WHITE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi>) No person was left in my cab—the cabs remained in the lane five or six minutes before they came back—I could not see whether anyone remained in the other cab—I did not go near it—I was standing by my horse's head, and the other cabman came towards me, and we were talking together—I am sure no one remained in my cab.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesset for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-171" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-171" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-171" type="surname" value="CONNOR"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-171" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL CONNOR</persName> </hi>. I get my living by taking horses away for gentlemen to different parts, an odd man—I went with the prisoner Kingwell in the cab to the Fishmonger's Arms, in West Street—I there saw the prosecutor, the four prisoners, Brown, and a man named Finch, drinking together, and tossing for some stout—Brown and the prosecutor had a quarrel—the pro
<lb/>secutor struck Brown, and knocked him down—they proposed to go and fight in the fields—two cabs were fetched—Kingwell rode outside, and four of each party rode inside—I can't say which was in which cab—there were eight or nine altogether; I was one of them—I did not go in the same cab as Kingwell—the prosecutor was in the behind cab, not the one I was in; the other one, the one Kingwell rode on—when Brown was knocked down by the prosecutor, Kingwell took no part in it; he did not do anything—both cabs stopped in Tottenham Court Road—I saw the prosecutor in the public-house there, and he rubbed his knuckles with gin and water—I don't know for what purpose—we then went on to Highgate, and stopped up a lane there—they all got out of the cabs—I got off the cab—they went into the field—I was at the gate—I was standing against the stile of the gate, talking to the cabman—I was in the field—we all went into the field—Finch knocked the prosecutor down first, and they all attacked him—I could not see which was striking him—they rolled him over—I thought they were only larking—I did not see Fairweather touch him—I can't say whether he did or not—I was talking to the cabman, and to a lady who was there—Kingwell came hack to me, I should think in five or six minutes afterwards, from where the others were, and three of us came home on the bus—he paid for me—there was Kingwell, me, and another young man, a perfect stranger to me—the cabs went away—when Kingwell came back to me he said "Come home; I thought I should see a fair stand up fight," and we left immediately—that was after it happened, after I saw the pro
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<p>rolled over—there was no room for me in the cab—they galloped away—I said I would not go, and Kingwell said the same.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How came you at this public-house that day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was sent for a horse from Aldridge's, in St. Martin's Lane—I have been employed there—I was employed that day by Kingwell, to fetch a horse from Euston Square, and I and Kingwell went down in the cab—I knew all these men by sight—I can't say which cab Shannon rode in—I was over the stile, talking to a lady there—every one of the others went into the field—I can't say which went last—I did not see in which cab Brown was—I did not know Brown—I went with Kingwell to get my pay for what I had done—Kingwell told me to come—he said "Come up, and see this 'ere"—he enticed me there—I did not lose sight of Kingwell—I did not keep him in light in the field the whole time—I saw Finch knock the prosecutor down—they held him at the back of the hedge, and I said to the cabman "This is not fair play"—I was not at the Police Court—Mr. Kingwell served me with a subpœna yesterday morning.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-172" type="surname" value="JACKSON"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-172" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS JACKSON</persName> </hi>. I live at 38, Charles Street, Clare Market—about 2 o'clock on Friday, 2nd September, I was passing by the Prince Albert, and saw the prosecutor there, whom I knew, and a man named Brown, out-side, having high words with one another—Jim Brown said that Fair-weather owed him 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I said "Well, you had better settle it, and pay"—Fairweather said "No, I will fight him for it; we will go to High-gate, and have it settled"—I said "I shall have nothing to do with it," and I went away to my work—Fairweather said he was going to Highgate to fight Jim Brown—I saw Brown afterwards, in the evening, in Castle Street, Leicester Square, and he had a cut on his lip, and a cut on his forehead; his coat was torn very nearly off his back—I had a conversation with him about his appearance—he had no hat or handkerchief.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What time was this?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Between 6 and 7 o'clock—I have not seen Brown here to-day—I don't know where he lives—I know him as a plasterer—I have not seen him since.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-173" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-173" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-173" type="surname" value="POULDEN"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-173" type="given" value="JAMES ALEXANDER"/>JAMES ALEXANDER POULDEN</persName> </hi>. I am a fishing-tackle maker, of Castle Street, Leicester Square—on Friday, 2nd September, about 1 o'clock in the afternoon, I saw Fairweather standing at a lamp-post opposite my shop, talking to Brown—they were
<hi rend="italic">larking</hi> together, and then Brown asked Fairweather for 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and Fairweather said he would fight him for it, and they went up the street.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you seen Brown since?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I don't know where he lives.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-174" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-174" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-174" type="surname" value="BARTER"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-174" type="given" value="LEVI GEORGE"/>LEVI GEORGE BARTER</persName> </hi>. I keep the Bull's Head, Tottenham Court Road—on 2nd September, about 5 or 6 o'clock in the evening, two cabs drove up to my house, and someone came in—I could not tell the number—they had some beer; two quarts, I believe—the prosecutor was one of the men—I don't recollect that he asked for anything—I believe there was two of gin called for, and taken out to the cab outside—one of them asked me for a lemon—I don't know which, I was rather busy at the time—I could net swear it was the prosecutor—I refused giving: them the lemon, becausa I had not one—I heard them talking together—I could not hear distinctly what they said.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-175" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-175" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-175" type="surname" value="OUSTIC"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-175" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS OUSTIC</persName> </hi>. I am a plumber and glazier, of Panton Street, Hay-market—I was passing down Millfield Lane, on my way from Highgate, and saw a party of people in the field—I thought they were
<hi rend="italic">larking</hi>—I saw</p>
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<p>George and Kingwell standing looking on at the others—they were a few yards off—they were pushing one another about—as far as I saw, George took no part in the proceeding.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I don't understand exactly what you first saw?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I saw seven or eight persons in the field—I saw a cab—I did not see the persons walk over into the field—they were in the field when I first saw them—I came away, thinking it was a lark—I only noticed one cab, I did not notice anyone in it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-176" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-176" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-176" type="surname" value="PARR"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-176" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PARR</persName> </hi>. On 2nd September I was at the Fishmonger's Arms, in West Street—the prisoners and prosecutor were there—they only came in and had something to drink, and had a little conversation together, which I took no notice of—they were all drinking together, and quite friendly.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18701024-name-177" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18701024-name-177" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-177" type="surname" value="GREAVES"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-name-177" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GREAVES</persName> </hi>. I assist my father, who keeps the Fishmonger's Arms—I saw the prisoners and prosecutor there on this day, drinking together—they were not drunk—I saw McCarthy and another one not in custody knock the prosecutor down, and they set on him—I thought they were larking—they had something to drink afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When the prosecutor was knocked down, did you see Kingwell interfere?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not—there was some quarrelling going on; but I did not pay particular attention to it—I heard nothing about fighting.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SHANNON, GEORGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">KINGWELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received good characters.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on Second Count.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">McCARTHY</hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def4-818-18701024 t18701024-818-punishment-28"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SHANNON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">KINGWELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-818-18701024 t18701024-818-punishment-29"/>Eighteen Months Im
<lb/>prisonment.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18701024-819-offence-1 t18701024-name-179"/>Jane Westby</persName>, aged eleven years and nine months.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BROMBY</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BRINDLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18701024-819-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="sexual"/>
<interp inst="t18701024-819-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="rape"/>There was another indictment against the prisoner for a rape on the same child,</rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, October</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1870.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Hannen.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>—with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-182" type="given" value="MONTAGU"/>MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</persName> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18701024-name-183" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CLINCH</persName> </hi>. I live at 3, Kepple Mews, North, and assist my father, a livery stable-keeper—the prisoner was in his service, and has been so, I believe, nearly two years—there has been an intimacy between her and me on two occasions—on 3rd August I went to bed about 12 o'clock, and after I had been asleep, the prisoner came and said "Let me get into bed," or words like that—I told her no I did not wish to have anything to do with her, and told her to go away—I had not had intimacy with her for twelve months, not since the end of September, or the beginning of October, last year—she asked me if I had seen a girl at Margate, but I gave her no satisfactory answer—I told her to go away, and went to sleep—I left no light in the room, but I always draw the blind up and there is a gas
<lb/>light outside—I awoke about 6 o'clock in the morning, and found myself very</p>
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<p>weak, and saturated with blood, and my head was wounded in several places—the bed was covered with blood—the prisoner was in the room, and I said "What have you done"—I forget what she said; I told her to go and call my sister—she said "Don't call your sister, let me go down stairs and open the door and say some one has come out of the street and done it"—I said "No" and she went up to her own room—I got out of bed and rang the bell till my sister came—a doctor was fetched and I was under his care about a month—my bands were also injured, I could not use this one for several weeks, and one arm was much bruised—I am now going to be married—the prisoner said to me about three months previous to this "You shall have no other girl but me, I would do for you first, I would not mind being hanged"—I went to live at my father's house last September twelve months—I have seen this hatchet before, it was kept in the kitchen—I saw nothing in the prisoner's hand when I awoke—there was a large wound on my head, which I think must have been struck several times; a cut here and there on my forehead, and my eye-brow was laid pen—I have the scars now—she was partially dressed, she had a dark coloured skirt on, and I do not know whether she had her night dress or not—I had said nothing to her about coming to my room that night, I had scarcely seen her for three weeks—I cannot tell how long before I became conscious the attack was made, but the blood had partially stopped.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What age are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Twenty-nine—I did not seduce the prisoner, she came to me—that was at the end of September last year, it was a mutual arrangement—she came to my bed for me to seduce her; I had told her that she might come if she liked, and she came—that was the first time—I had taken liberties before and she did not resent them, that began a few days after I went to live at my father's—she ran up stairs and I knocked at her door and asked her to let me in, and she refused—I do not know whether it was locked, but I would not open it—I do not know whether I had seduced her before that, but it was most likely before—I was in the habit of going into the kitchen when she was alone, and taking liberties with her—she did not constantly refuse me—she only ran away that once—I was not constantly trying to seduce her, but I was playing and larking with her—I did not promise her marriage—I was only intimate with her twice—I do not know the dates, the first time was when I allowed her to come into my room—I had told her some months before the wounding that I would have nothing to do with her, and I may have repeated it—a young lady visited me and the family—I did not tell the prisoner that I was going to marry that young lady, nor did she intreat me not to do so as I had promised her marriage—I never promised her—when I told her to go out of my room I do not suppose it was in a very agreeable tone—my father and my two sisters lived in the house—the prisoner was the only servant.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Has she at any time asked you if you would pro
<lb/>vide for her if you were married?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, but six months ago she was talking about getting married, and I said that anything I could do to assist her in forming a home I would do.</p>
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