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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>ALLEN, MAYOR.</p>
<p>SEVENTH SESSION, HELD MAY 4TH, 1868.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>ALEXANDER BUCKLER,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>VOL. LXVIII.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED, BY</p>
<p>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>BUTTERWORTHS, 7, FLEET STREET.</p>
<p>Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>the city of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, May 4th, 1868, and following days,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES SHAW WILLES</hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FRY CHANNELL</hi>, Knt., one of the Barons of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHALLIS</hi>, Esq.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS SIDNEY</hi>, Esq., Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt, and
<hi rend="smallCaps">WARREN STORMES HALE</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; The Right Hon.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-1" type="given" value="JAMES CLARKE"/>JAMES CLARKE LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">SILLS JOHN GIBBONS</hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM JAMES RICHMOND COTTON</hi>, Esq., and
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOSEPH CAUSTION</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHAMBERS</hi>, Esq., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</hi>, Esq., L.L.D., Judge of the Sheriff's Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol delivery of Newgate, Holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM MC ARTHUR</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SEPTIMUS DAVIDSON</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES MILLS ROCHE</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">under-Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ALLEN, MAYOR. SEVENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars (**) that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 4
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1868.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Three Years in a Reformatory</hi> </rs>.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, May</hi> 4
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1868.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-9" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Mr. Fawkes, who keeps the Life Guardsman, in Keswick—on 30th March, between 7 and 8, the prisoner came into the taproom, and called for a pot of beer—he gave me a florin, and I gave him a shilling, sixpence, and 2
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<p>customer before Mr. Fawkes cames clown, and I gave him the florin and the 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and he put them in his pocket—the prisoner remained in the tap
<lb/>room, and in about half an hour he came to the bar, and asked for a pot of beer—he paid my master for that—he went back into the taproom, and in about an hour came back to the bar and asked for a pot of beer, and gave me a florin—I took it to my master to get change—my master came down, and I heard him say, "Have you got any more of these?"—the prisoner said, "What do you mean?"—my master said, "This is a
<hi rend="italic">duffer</hi>"—I saw him bend it with his teeth, and he then sent me for a policeman—after he was taken to the station we found the florin which he gave me first and the one he had given to my master were bad as well—I gave them to Sergeant Rodgers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were there any persons in the taproom?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A good many—he was in the house more than an hour—he came in with one or two others—they seemed like travellers.</p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-10" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS FAWKES</persName> </hi>. On 30th March, a florin and a 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. were banded to me by Clark—I put them in my pocket—there was no other florin there—the prisoner asked for another pot of beer, and paid me with a florin—I put it in my purse, and gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers—after that the bar
<lb/>man brought me another florin, and I came down stairs—I asked the prisoner how many more he had got of them, because it was a
<hi rend="italic">duffer</hi>—I then said I should lock him up—he said, if I did not give him the change he would box me—I called for assistance—he was searched when the police-man came, and he found a purse and another bad florin—he was taken to the station.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 64). I was called in and took the prisoner into custody, and received these two florins (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from Mr. Fawkes—the prisoner said he had come from Limehouse, and bad been into a public-house at Notting Hill and received change for half a sovereign—in his pocket I found another bad florin in paper, 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in good money, and 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—I took him to the station—he gave a correct address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he say he was going to America?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; and was then going to bid his friends good-bye—he said he put the florin by to take him home again to Limehouse, so as he should not spend all the money.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T</hi> 13). I was at the station when the prisoner was brought there—he was sober—I heard him make the statement which the last witness has stated—I received the bad florins from Mr. Fawkes.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-13" type="given" value="ALBERT JOHN"/>ALBERT JOHN SEYMOUR</persName> </hi>. I am the gaoler of the Hammersmith Police Court—the prisoner was brought up on the 31st, and remanded—he was then placed in a cell—I examined it before he went into it—he was there about two hours—when he left I turned on the water; that is the constant practice—I then went in—I found some paper at the bottom of the pan and two half-crowns—he had left the cell about five minutes before I went in—no one else had been in the cell before me—I know there was nothing in the pan before the prisoner went in—I took the half-crowns into the Court immediately I found them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you the head gaolor?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There is no other but me—no one had occupied that cell that day before the prisoner went in, it had been used the day before—I always go into the cells before a prisoner is put in—I produced the half crowns on the next remand—I</p>
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<p>think it was on the 3rd—I showed them to the clerk of the Court directly I found them, and told him the circumstances.</p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-14" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am Inspector of Coin to the Mint—these four florins are bad and from the same mould—these half crowns are also bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate was that he went to a public-house with a man who gave him four florins and two shillings in change for half a sovereign, and that he did not know they were bad</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">He received a good character</hi>.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM THOMPSON</hi> (18)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18680504-419-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully having counterfeit coin in his possession, with intent to utter it.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-16" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-16" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-16" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi>. I am employed by the Mint—on Monday afternoon of 27th April, I went to Dudley Street, with Police Constable Brannan, two Inspectors and two Sergeants—my attention was called to the prisoner by Sergeant Ackrill—I followed him and he was seized by Brannan And Ackrill—he resisted very much indeed—Ackrill took from his right hand these counterfeit crown pieces—I then said to him, "My name is Brannan, you are suspected of having counterfeit coin"—he said "I believe these are bad, but you will have to prove that I intented to utter it"—at the station Ackrill took from his waistcoat pocket five other crown pieces wrapped in paper as they are now, and also this florin and sovereign wrapped in paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I asked him where he lived, he said, "That you will have to find out"—I said "You need not trouble yourself, I know where you live"—I had had him under observation for some time—he gave the name of William Thompson, finsbury Square—I said "Where you don't live"—I afterwards went to 160, Albany Street, Regent's Park; a room was pointed out to me—Sergeant Matthews found a counterfeit shilling and a number of fancy costumes, which is the subject of another indictment—the crowns all bear the date of 1818—I was present when he was told about the shilling being found at his house, and he said "I know it was."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-17" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-17" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-17" type="surname" value="ACKRILL"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-17" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ACKRILL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant F</hi> 15). On 27th April I went to Dudley Street, Seven Dials, with Brannan and other constables—I saw the prisoner coming up the street, pointed him out to Brannan, and went and seized him—he resisted very violently—I took these crowns from his right hand—Mr. Brannan told him that he was suspected of having counter
<lb/>feit coin, he said "I know that, but you will have to prove I meant to utter it"—I took him to the station, searched him, and found a bad sovereign, five other crowns, and a florin, all bad—I gave them to Mr. Brannan.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-18" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-18" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-18" type="surname" value="MATTHEWS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-18" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MATTHEWS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant F</hi> 6). I was with Brannan and the other officers, the evidence which they have given is correct—I went to 160, Albany Street, to a room at the top of the house, which the prisoner occupied—I searched it, and between two books I found a counterfeit shilling—I heard Brannan tell him at the station that the shilling was bad he had found, and he said "I know it was"—he admitted that the room was his—this is the shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-19" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-19" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-19" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-19" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are all bad—the sovereign is of the same metal as the shilling, with gilt over it—I have examined the crowns, they are all bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I was talking to some men; one had a small packet</p>
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<p>in his hand, which he put into my pocket. I went back and examined it, and found that it was bad money. Several of them I threw in the fire. At my dinner hour, when the policeman found me, my intention was to go and find the person who put them in my pocket; I could not find him, and was going back to put them behind the fire, when I was taken. As for the shilling, that was at home, it had been there for three months, as the land
<lb/>lady knows.</p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-419-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.†
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-419-punishment-7" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-419-18680504 t18680504-419-punishment-7"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>420.
<persName id="def1-420-18680504" type="defendantName">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM THOMPSON</hi> </persName> was again indicted
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<interp inst="t18680504-420-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-420-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/> for stealing four pairs of drawers, three shirt fronts, and other articles, the property of
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-21" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-21" type="surname" value="NATHAN"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-420-offence-1 t18680504-name-21"/>Lewis Nathan</persName>, his master.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-22" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-22" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-22" type="surname" value="MATTHEWS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-22" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MATTHEWS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant F</hi> 6). I went to 160, Albany Street, and searched the prisoner's room—I found there some drawers, two pairs of cotton pantaloons, three frilled shirt fronts, and twenty one photographs—I took possession of those goods and then returned to the station—I told the prisoner that I had found articles in the room which he occupied which I suspected were stolen—he said "Whatever you find in my room belongs to me"—these are the things (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-23" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-23" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-23" type="surname" value="NATHAN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-23" type="given" value="LEWIS"/>LEWIS NATHAN</persName> </hi>. I live at 21, Tichbourne Street—the prisoner was in my employment—these articles belong to me—I never sold them to the prisoner, or gave him authority to take them away.</p>
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<rs id="t18680504-420-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-420-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-420-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="italic">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.—
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<interp inst="t18680504-420-punishment-8" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
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<hi rend="italic">Seven Years' Penal Servitude, concurrent with the previous sentence</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
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<p>421.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH CORRAL</hi> (57)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18680504-421-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-421-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-25" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-25" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-25" type="surname" value="TROUGHTON"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-25" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD TROUGHTON</persName> </hi>. I keep the Queen's Head public-house, Queen's Square, Bloomsbury—on 4th April, the prisoner came in for a glass of ale—he gave me a bad florin—I asked him if he had any more of that descrip
<lb/>tion—he then placed another florin on the bar, which I found was also bad—I took them both off—I told him if he would fetch a constable I would re
<lb/>turn the money, but not unless—he immediately left the house—I was not able to follow him, being alone in the bar—about a half an hour afterwards he came back intoxicated—I asked him if he had brought a constable with him, he immediately left the house without an answer—I followed him with a policeman—I saw him go into a butcher's shop in Southampton Row—when he left, Mr. Shurley showed me a bad florin—I then gave the prisoner into custody—I marked the two florins and gave them to the constable—the prisoner was sober when he came in the first time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-26" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-26" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-26" type="surname" value="COOPER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-26" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS COOPER</persName> </hi>. I am foreman to John Shurley, butcher, Southampton Row—the prisoner came to the shop and asked for some pieces of meat, which came to eight-pence—he gave me a florin—a gentleman came into the shop and asked me if it was a good one—the prisoner had just left—I then found it was bad—I gave the prisoner 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper change—I afterwards gave the florin to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-27" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-27" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-27" type="surname" value="SIMS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-27" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SIMS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 60). The prisoner was given into my custody—he was drunk—I took a bad florin from his hand—he asked me to give it him—I said I should not—he said he would break my legs—I searched him at the station and found on him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 13
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in cop
<lb/>pers—I received two florins from Mr. Troughton, and one from Cooper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-28" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-28" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-28" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-28" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These four florins are bad—two of them are dated 1862, and are from one mould; and two of 1864 from another.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I had been to the boat race, and must have got them there. I am quite innocent of knowing they were bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18680504-421-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-421-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-421-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted on</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th April</hi>, 1867,
<hi rend="italic">in the name of George Saunders, to which he pleaded</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">NOT GUILTY</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-29" type="surname" value="WINSLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-29" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WINSLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman F</hi> 36). I produce a certificate of the con
<lb/>viction of George Saunders at this Court, on 8th April, 1867, for uttering counterfeit coin—he was then ordered to be imprisoned in the House of Correction six months—I was present at the trial—the prisoner is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-421-punishment-9" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-421-18680504 t18680504-421-punishment-9"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>422.
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<interp inst="def1-422-18680504" type="age" value="37"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH MOORE</hi> (37)</persName>, was indicted
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<interp inst="t18680504-422-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-31" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-31" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-31" type="surname" value="FORDHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-31" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FORDHAM</persName> </hi>. I keep the Rose and Crown beer-shop, Bridge Street, Mile End—shortly before 11 o'clock on 25th March, the prisoner came in for half a pint of half-and-half—she gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I gave her sixpence and four
<lb/>pence in coppers—I put the 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the till—there was no other there—I after
<lb/>wards examined it, and found it was bad, and gave it to a police constable—I followed the prisoner—I saw her go into Mr. Harding's shop—I went in, and said she had given me a bad shilling—she said she was not aware of it, and gave me a good one—I gave her back the bad one—she was then taken to the station—I got the bad 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. back from her afterwards, and marked it—I asked her where she lived—she said, "A few doors off"—I said, "Where?"—she said, "I shall not tell you"—I gave the constable the 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-32" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-32" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-32" type="surname" value="HARDING"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-32" type="given" value="CECILIA"/>CECILIA HARDING</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of George Harding, and keep a general shop in Bridge Street, opposite the Rose and Crown—on 25th March, near 11, the prisoner came in for half a quartern loaf and a quarter of a pound of cheese, which was sixpence-halfpenny—she gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I put it in the detector, and bent it twice—she gave me another directly—she said she was not aware it was bad; she had just taken it in change for a pint of beer—I called my husband and gave it to him—I went for a constable—Mr. Fordham then came in, and we gave her into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-33" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-33" type="surname" value="HARDING"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-33" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HARDING</persName> </hi>. I received a bad shilling from my wife, and marked it, and gave it to the constable—the prisoner said she did not know it was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-34" type="surname" value="WELSH"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-34" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WELSH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 245). I took the prisoner into custody in Mr. Harding's shop—she said she passed the shilling, but did not know it was bad—I received this shilling from Mr. Harding, and took her to the station with another constable—some bread and cheese, and tea, and other articles were found on her, and some money, which she gave as she went to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-35" type="surname" value="TALBOT"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-35" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD TALBOT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman K</hi> 102). I was with the last witness—I asked the prisoner if she had got any more bad money, and she said, "No"—I asked what she had got in her hand, and she said, "Some change"—I took it out of her hand, and found 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and nine pence in copper, and a bad shilling—I showed the shilling to Mr. Fordham, and he said it was the one the prisoner passed on him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-36" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-36" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These shillings are both bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-422-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-422-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Nine Months</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
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<p>423.
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<interp inst="def1-423-18680504" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES SMITH</hi> (17)</persName>, was indicted
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<interp inst="t18680504-423-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for a like offence.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-38" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-38" type="surname" value="STIRRUP"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-38" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE STIRRUP</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Charles Stirrup, and live at 21, D'Oyly Street, Chelsea—I have known the prisoner several months—on 4th</p>
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<p>April he came to my shop, about 6 in the evening, and asked for half an ounce of tobacco, which was threehalfpence, and gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I gave him the change—I told him it looked like a bad one—he said, "If you don't like that I will give you another one," and I then put it in the till—there was no other shilling there—he came back again in half an hour, and asked for another half ounce of tobacco, and gave me another shilling, which I put in the till—I afterwards found the two shillings were bad—two days after he came in again, and asked for half an Ounce of tobacco, and gave me another shilling, which I found was bad—he said, "I will give you another one," but I would not take it, and he ran away. I gave the shillings to a constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-39" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-39" type="surname" value="LEWIS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-39" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE LEWIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 1). I received three counterfeit shillings from the last witness—the prisoner was in custody and I went to Brentford and I identified him—I have known where he was living for some time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-40" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-40" type="surname" value="HARRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-40" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN HARRIS</persName> </hi>. I keep a greengrocer's shop in High Street, New Brentford—on the 15th April, between 9 and 10, the prisoner came to my shop, and asked for two onions, which was threehalfpence—he gave me a bad shilling—I told him I could not take it, and be directly put down a good one—he went away, and was brought back by police constable Irvine and the bad shilling was found on him—I had bent it with my teeth.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-41" type="surname" value="IRVINE"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-41" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE IRVINE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 150). From information I received on the 15th of April, I followed the prisoner 200 yards from Mrs. Harry's—I took him there and found on him a had shilling, and sixpence and four
<lb/>pence-halfpenny in good money, and some tobacco—I produce a bag, which I got from a man at the station next morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-42" type="surname" value="BRUNSDEN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BRUNSDEN</persName> </hi>. I am a mason's labourer—I was going to work on the 16th April, about 6 o'clock, and picked up this bag and bad 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in it—I took it to the station—it was 200 or 300 yards from Mrs. Harris's—lying partly on a heap of stuff by the road side.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-43" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-43" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. The first 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. are bad, and three are from the same mould—the seven in the bag are bad, and five from the same mould as the one uttered.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-423-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-423-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<p>424.
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<interp inst="def1-424-18680504" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-424-18680504" type="age" value="34"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK COOPER</hi> (34)</persName>, was indicted
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<interp inst="t18680504-424-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-424-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-45" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-45" type="surname" value="SCOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-45" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SCOTT</persName> </hi>. I keep the Lord Nelson, on 25th April the prisoner came for a glass of ale, and gave me a bad florin—I was going to bend it and he told me not to destroy it, and he laid down another bad florin—I asked him if he had got any more of that sort, and he then gave me a good half-crown—while he was drinking the ale I bolted the doors and sent for a constable—I gave him into custody and gave the two bad coins to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-46" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-46" type="surname" value="EGAN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-46" type="given" value="CORNELIUS"/>CORNELIUS EGAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman X</hi> 358). I took the prisoner into custody and received these two bad florins from the last witness (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—on the way to the station he said "I am
<hi rend="italic">cogged</hi> at last"—I found 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver and sixpence in copper on him, good money—he was sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-47" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-47" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two florins are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I got a great deal the worse for liquor, and I gave a female half-a-sovereign to get some drink with; she gave me the change. I went into a public-house after, but I did not know the coin was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-424-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-424-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-424-punishment-12" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-424-18680504 t18680504-424-punishment-12"/>Six Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>425.
<persName id="def1-425-18680504" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-425-18680504" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-425-18680504" type="age" value="22"/>
<interp inst="def1-425-18680504" type="surname" value="POCOCK"/>
<interp inst="def1-425-18680504" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE POCOCK</hi> (22)</persName>, was indicted
<rs id="t18680504-425-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-425-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-425-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-49" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-49" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-49" type="surname" value="HOBBS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-49" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH HOBBS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Hobbs, and keep the Weavers' Arms, Stamford Hill—on 23rd April the prisoner came in and asked for three-halfpenny worth of gin and raspberry; he gave me a shilling—I gave him the change—he came in again and asked for half a quartern of gin and raspberry, and gave me a shilling which I found was bad—I told him so and gave it him back, and he paid me with copper—the policeman after
<lb/>wards brought that same shilling back and showed it to me—I then looked in the till and found a bad shilling there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-50" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-50" type="surname" value="JANNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-50" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY JANNETT</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Bird Cage, Stamford Hill, on 23rd April the prisoner came and asked for three-halfpenny worth of gin and cloves, and gave me a bad shilling—I bent it and gave it back to him—he said he knew it was bad and must pass it somewhere—he was given into custody with the shilling.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-51" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-51" type="surname" value="PROUT"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-51" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY PROUT</persName> </hi>. I am a potman—I was at the bar when the prisoner came in—I afterwards went into the urinal and saw the prisoner come out—I found a bad 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. bent in a hole—I put my arm down and got it up, and gave it to my mistress.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-52" type="surname" value="COOPER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-52" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL COOPER</persName> </hi>. I was in the bar, and followed the prisoner out—he joined a woman, and I followed them—they got into an omnibus, and went to Hackney—I stopped the omnibus and gave them into custody—the prisoner said, "This is where I am wrong, in trying to pass bad money in two places so near to one another"—I gave the shilling to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I never said such a thing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-53" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-53" type="surname" value="PARISH"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-53" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD PARISH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N</hi> 437). I took the prisoner and a female into custody, and searched the prisoner—I found on him nine sixpences, three fourpenny-pieces, and two threepenny-pieces, in good money—he said, "I know I am wrong in trying to pass the bad money in two places so close together"—I produce two bad shillings I received from Mr. Cooper, and one I received from Mrs. Hobbs.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-54" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-54" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-54" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These shillings are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-425-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-425-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-425-punishment-13" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-425-punishment-13" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-425-18680504 t18680504-425-punishment-13"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>425a.
<hi rend="italic">In the Third court, before Mr. Commissioner Kerr,
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<interp inst="def1-425a-18680504" type="age" value="19"/>
<interp inst="def1-425a-18680504" type="surname" value="ROCHE"/>
<interp inst="def1-425a-18680504" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>Thomas Roche</persName> </hi> (19),
<hi rend="italic">was
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<interp inst="t18680504-425a-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-425a-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="assault"/>convicted of an assault</rs> </hi>.—
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<interp inst="t18680504-425a-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-425a-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18680504-425a-punishment-14" type="punishmentCategory" value="noPunish"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-425a-punishment-14" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="sentenceRespited"/>
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment Respited</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1868.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<p>426.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">BARNARD TYMAN</hi> (65)</persName>, was indicted
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<interp inst="t18680504-426-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-426-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/> for stealing two bills of exchange for 175
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-57" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-57" type="surname" value="COLEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-57" type="given" value="HENRY"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-426-offence-1 t18680504-name-57"/>Henry Coleman</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-58" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-58" type="surname" value="GUINN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-58" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GUINN</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the ships' stores, at Greenwich—on the evening of 9th March I saw the prisoner there—I had never seen him before—he showed me these two bills for 175
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), and asked me to change them—I told him I could not, I did not keep such an amount. in my house—he then asked if I would advance him 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said I could not—he said he wanted to go on board the ship—I told him I would advance him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to pay the waterman to row him down there, and I did so—the waterman had brought him in—the waterman asked where he was going to—he said he was going on board the
<hi rend="italic">Somersetshire</hi>, that arrived on</p>
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<p>5th March—I lent him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the bills, which I kept in my possession—I asked him his name, he said Barnard Tyman—I saw the name of Henry Coleman on the bills, and I asked him how it was that the name of Henry Coleman was on the bills and his name was Barnard Tyman—he said he took his mother's maiden name—there was no endorsement on the bills at that time—he called daily at my house after that—he said he wanted to go to the War Office, in Pall Mall, to see about some property he had, and he thought about going back to Australia again, and would I advance him more money—I said I was not in the habit of doing such a thing, but as the bills were his I did advance him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., just as he wanted it, to go to London, and I paid a man to go up and down with him, until he got about 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in my debt—when he had been there about a week I asked whether he would go to the bank and get the bills changed; but previous to that I showed them to Mr. Bernard, a gentleman who came from the London and County Bank at Greenwich, in the prisoner's presence—he said if I liked he would send one through to Threadneedle Street, to see if they were good—I asked the prisoner if he would endorse them; he said he could not write—he got the waterman to write "Henry Coleman," and he put his hand to the pen and made a cross—I gave that bill to Mr. Bernard to send it through the bank, and they sent it back, saying the third one was accepted—I told the prisoner of it, and he said he would go to the Bank of Victoria with me—I said I could not go then, but I would send the waterman with him—I gave the waterman the bills, and told him not to give them up unless he got a satisfactory answer about them—I did not see the bills again, nor the prisoner—I have not got back my 16
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I only got 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> What time did I enter your house.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the 9th; I don't know the time—you were sober, sober enough to get over me—I don't know that you came from the police station—I went with you to Albany Street ten days afterwards to receive your pension—the gentleman there told me he was afraid I should lose my money—you did not have it in grog, you had it in hard cash—3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid you at Albany Street—I did not take it from the counter, I took it from your hand—I have not got any jewellery of yours; there are two letters now at my house, and a little box with an ivory brooch and studs in it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-59" type="surname" value="GARDEM"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-59" type="given" value="WILLIAM WESTLEY"/>WILLIAM WESTLEY GARDEM</persName> </hi>. I am accountant and chief clerk at the Bank of Victoria, in Threadneedle Street—on 5th March, the prisoner came there with the first and second of these bills, there is a third of the same date; they are drawn by our head office at Melbourn, and made payable at our bank here—I asked the prisoner if his name was Henry Coleman—he said it was—I told him that the third had come forward and had been accepted, and it was down at Norwich—I gave him the address of the bankers in whose hands it was, the Provincial Banking Company; and also the Rev. Mr. Cooper, who had interested himself in the case, and told him he had better make his way down there and establish his claim to the accepted bill—I asked him if he knew William Coleman—he said he had a brother of that name—I also asked him whether William Coleman had a son in the colony—he said he did not know, that he had been twenty years in Australia and had very much lost sight of his relations in this country—I gave him back the two bills—on 26th March he came again, accompanied by another man—in the meantime I had received information—the man gave the bills up to me—the prisoner said he had not been to Norwich as I had advised him, and he would be glad if he could have 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the bills—I again asked</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186805040011"/>
<p>if his name was Henry Coleman—he said it was—he was then shown in to the Manager; he was then shown out of the bank and the drafts were retained.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I did not say that I was Henry Coleman, you looked at the notes and said "Henry Coleman," and I said "Yes."
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. That is not so, I asked distinctly if your name was Henry Coleman, and you said "Yes;" I had a particular reason for wishing to know—you did not say you would go to Norwich as soon as you saw the party the note belonged to; you made out that it belonged to you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-60" type="surname" value="COLEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-60" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY COLEMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">This witness was blind and quite helpless, and was carried into Court</hi>). I came from Australia on board the
<hi rend="italic">Somersetshire</hi>—before I left I got some drafts from the bank—I sent one of them by poet to my father, at Fauncett St Mary's, Norfolk, the other two bills of the set I had in my own posession—I saw the prisoner not many days before I left, Barnard Tyman was the name he gave me—he went on board the
<hi rend="italic">Somersetshire</hi> with me—I paid his passage for him, 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., for which he gave me an I.O.U.; it was drawn up by the ship's agent—I put the I.O.U. and my two drafts into my purse, with six sovereigns, put it in my right hand trousers pocket, and tied it in so that I might not lose it, as I was very unwell—I went into the hospital on board—the prisoner attended to me—he took off my clothes and attended to me until we arrived at Blackwall—he then left the ship without telling me; he had washed and dressed me that morning, and said he was going to take me ashore—I heard no more of him—a day or so before he left I heard the rattling of what I fancied was those two drafts—he requested me not to say anything to anyone about my money—he said he would take me home to my father—a day or two before I heard the rustling I had taken out my purse, and I can positively swear the bills were then safe—the prisoner has taken my purse out when I have changed my things and tied it in for me—I gave him no authority to take the bills, or to get money on them—the afternoon that he left the ship, the ship's doctor and another gentleman came to me, and I found that the drafts and the I.O.U. were gone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did you not tell me one day after you had committed yourself, to throw your trousers overboard
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, that was before I went into the hospital, the drafts were safe long after that—you took them from me once, and I told you if you did not deliver them up to me I would report you to the captain.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-61" type="surname" value="KIRKPATRICK"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-61" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH KIRKPATRICK</persName> </hi>. I am a constable of the Norfolk Constabulary, stationed at Long Stratton, Norfolk—the prisoner was given into my custody on 28th March, by a warder from Norwich Castle—while he was in my custody I repeatedly heard him say that he had come from Australia in the steam ship
<hi rend="italic">Somersetshire</hi>, and that he looked after Henry Coleman during the voyage, also that he had these drafts in his possession when he went ashore, and got drunk and was laid up at Greenwich.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-62" type="surname" value="COLEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-62" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COLEMAN</persName> </hi>. I live at Fauncett St Mary's, Norfolk—I am the prosecutor's father—I had possession of the first draft—it first got into the hands of one Henry Coleman; I got it afterwards—the prisoner came down to my place—I can't say what day it was—he was with me part of three days before he was taken—he said he had come home with my son, and he wanted me to give him a little sort of a present for taking particular care of him—I told him I had not got anything to give him, only what I had to work for—he took out a little paper, and said I could take it to the</p>
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<p>bank at Norwich, and draw some money for him, if I had not got any—I told him I could not do anything with it—I took it to the clergyman of our pariah, and he spoke to me and the prisoner about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I asked him for nothing, and he pave me nothing. He only told me to stop as long as I liked, and he would make me com
<lb/>fortable. I am an old soldier, and have borne arms for the crown of England forty-two years. I served twenty years in New Zealand. I have a pension of ninepence a day. I am us innocent of this as the babe unborn. If I had wanted to act the rogue on a creature like that, I could have put it in my pocket at any time; no one knew anything about it on board but him and me. When I came ashore I got drunk, and got locked up. When I was liberated, I went to this landlord's house; I was under the influence of drink. I gave him the papers, and some jewellery belonging to a lady, to take core of. I remained there I don't know how many days in a stupid state. I went and received my pension, and gave it to him to pay for the grog I had had. When I went to Fauncett St. Mary's he wrote to the authorities there, and had me taken into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-426-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18680504-426-punishment-15" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-426-punishment-15" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-426-punishment-15" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-426-18680504 t18680504-426-punishment-15"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>427.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL CROSBY</hi> (21)</persName>, and
<persName id="def2-427-18680504" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-427-18680504" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GUSTAVE KRICKELDORF</hi> (34)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18680504-427-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/>, Stealing seven skins of leather of
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-65" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-427-offence-1 t18680504-name-65"/>Thomas John Smith</persName> and another, the masters of Crosby.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Crosby, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Krickeldorf</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-66" type="surname" value="DOWNES"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-66" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOSEPH"/>WILLIAM JOSEPH DOWNES</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the business of Thomas John and Joseph Smith, wholesale stationers, 83, Queen Street, City—Crosby has been in their service about two years as light porter and warehouseman—his duties were up stairs on the second floor, in the stock room, where the leather is kept—Krickeldorf has worked for the firm about twelve months out of doors—among other things he made purses and pocket-books—previous to 22nd April the practice was when he received an order he told me what quantity of leather he would require, and if I thought he might have it, I should instruct Crosby to give it him; Crosby would write out an order to the clerk in a book—in consequence of something after 21st April I made more stringent rules—I know those rules were acted upon by Crosby on the morning of 22nd, because he signed tickets for leather he had given out on two different occasions—tins (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is one of the tickets—it has my signature and Mr. Astins' to it; both those signatures would be re
<lb/>quired before the leather was delivered—it would be brought from the second floor, where Crosby was, to the receiving room on the ground-floor, where Astins would deliver it to the workmen—Astins would sign the ticket, bring it to me for signature, and then file it; the file was kept in the receiving room—on 23rd April, about 11 o'clock, I saw Krickeldorf on the ground floor; he brought me a sample purse—I told him I would take three dozen of them, but it would be necessary for him to get better ivory tablets—one skin would have been plenty for those if of one colour; if of two colours, two skins; two half-skins would do, but we do not generally give out half-skins—I did not see Crosby at that time—about 215 that day, I went into the passage that leads to the lobby, and there ob
<lb/>served Crosby and Krickeldorf in conversation—the moment Crosby saw me, he went up stairs into his room, and Krickeldorf descended with a brown paper parcel in his hand—I asked him to go up stairs to the first floor, where</p>
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<p>I was in the habit of receiving him—I noticed that he laid the parcel down in the lobby by the side of the door—while he went up stain I called to Astins, made a communication to him, and followed Krickeldorf up stairs—I kept him in conversation till Astins came up—I then went down and made a communication to Mr. Smith, who I found with the parcel I had seen Krickeldorf with—it was then open, and contained seven skins of leather—I returned to Krickeldorf, and made an excuse to detain him, and then went down again, and found Mr. Smith there with Crosby—Mr. Smith said to Crosby, "Have you given that leather out to anyone?"—he said he had given it to Krickeldorf—Mr. Smith asked him where was his authority for doing so; he said he had written a ticket out, and it was up stairs on the file—I then left Crosby and went up to Krickeldorf—I said to him, "I have given you an order for three dozen purses, you will require some more leather, I suppose?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "How much do you want?"—he said, "Two skins"—I said, "Wait a minute then," and I returned down stairs and spoke to Mr. Smith—I then went to Crosby, and the ticket was then lying down stairs—Mr. Smith said, "This is not signed"—I said, "No"—Crosby was there—I did not stop to hear what he said, but went up stairs to Krickeldorf—I said to him, "What are you doing with those skins you had in the parcel down stairs that I saw in your hand?"—he said, "I had not it"—I said, "I saw you with a brown paper parcel in your hand, carrying it down stairs"—his answer was, "No, never"—I repeated it again more emphatically, but he still denied it—he was brought down stairs, in the presence of Mr. Smith and Crosby, and Mr. Smith said to crosby, "Did you give Krickeldorf that parcel of leather?"—he said, "Yes"—I then said to Krickeldorf, "Did Crosby give you that leather?"—he said, "No; he did not"—a policeman was then sent for, and they were given into custody—Crosby had no authority to get leather except through Astins—the piece of paper afterwards found on the file up stairs was not written by my authority, nor was I aware of it; the file up stairs had become use
<lb/>less—Krickeldorf had no order from us at that time, that I am aware of (
<hi rend="italic">leather produced</hi>)—Russia leather would be required for the purses, but not calf—here are five skins of Russia and two of calf—they are worth about 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the parcel Krickeldorf had was not rolled as it should be, but packed square, which made me notice it—it would deteriorate the value of the leathers—no one who understood leather would do it so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I think the system you speak of had only been altered one day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Only a day or two—the document found on the file contains the whole details of this leather in Crosby's writing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you keep any entry in any book of the various skins of leather that Krickeldorf had from time to time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and when he brought goods in the amount was deducted—this is the book (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—this is Krickeldorf's book, but I kept it, or my clerk did, and I went through it every Saturday when I paid him—before 22nd April Crosby entered on a piece of paper the leather he delivered, and put it on the file, and that would be the authority to copy it into this book, unless he gave it verbally to the clerk—the new regulation had got into good working order—Crosby had acted upon it—I ordered three dozen purses of Krickeldorf, but told him the quality of the tablets was inferior, and directed him to go to another party to get them—that would be in the City Road, it would take him a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes to go—he said he would go, and come back and let me know—it was by accident</p>
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<p>that I saw him at 2.15—I am not in the habit of going down into the lobby at that time—he knew that my dinner hour was between 2 and 3—he was in the habit of making all sorts of purses for us—calf is used in some purses—all this leather would be used for some sort of purse or other—if he had two or three skins of leather out I used to allow it to go on till he executed the order—the leather was never more than the price of the purses—he would sometimes bring them in a dozen or two at a time, and we should settle when the order was completed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> On the 9th April, did you come to a settlement with him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—nothing was left on that day—no more leather was delivered out to him then—he had none, of my sanction—there was a payment to him on account at that time for goods he had brought in on the 9th April—he had about 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of leather—1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was owing to him—on the 22nd April he brought some purses, and he was then paid 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., which cleared up his book.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-67" type="surname" value="ASTINS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-67" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ASTINS</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Messrs. Smith—on 22nd April a new regulation was made as to delivering out materials, and I told Crosby that when he had any leather out he would have to give it to me first, and not to deliver it to the person himself—the following morning two skins of leather were delivered out and he gave me the leather in—that produced is one of the memorandums referring to it—I took it first to Mr. Downs, and he signed it, and then I put my initials to it and put it on the file in the receiving room, where the materials were delivered out—Crosby did not come to me on the 23rd April, with reference to any leather for Krickeldorf—I did not know of his taking these seven skins—I saw Krickeldorf at 11 o'clock that morning, in the lobby on the ground floor—I did not see Crosby there—about 2.15 or 2.20 I saw Krickeldorf in the lobby—I did not see anything with him—I afterwards received a communication from Downs, and found a brown paper parcel in the corner behind the door in the lobby—I brought it inside and tore off a corner to see whether it was leather—I saw that it was, and I went up stairs and communicated to Mr. Downs—the parcel was afterwards opened in Mr. Smith's presence—this is it—I know nothing of the file up stairs, or of the ticket on it—Crosby did not show me this ticket—I did not see it before it was brought down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where did you find this parcel?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In the corner behind the door, not on a bench—there is a bench there, where the workpeople receive their goods out—the materials are not generally packed when they are given out, merely a string put round them—I never did put leather in a square parcel myself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-68" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-68" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-68" type="given" value="THOMAS JOHN"/>THOMAS JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am one of the partners in this house—in consequence of a communication made to me by Mr. Downs, I sent for Crosby into the warehouse—this parcel was produced and opened in his presence—the new regulation that was made on 22nd April was made by Mr. Downs—I had nothing to do with it—I gave no authority for the taking away of this leather—I afterwards saw this paper on the file brought down from the stock room—it was the last paper on the file—the packing of this parcel was unusual; leather should always be rolled.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The file was the proper place for the papers, was it not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, it should not have been put there at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were there other papers on the file?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—it was brought down to me by Humpleman—this is the file—I do not think there were any more papers on it then than there are now.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-69" type="surname" value="HUMPLEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-69" type="given" value="AUGUSTE"/>AUGUSTE HUMPLEMAN</persName> </hi>. I have been requested to attend here by Crosby—previous to the new regulation I was entering clerk up stairs—I was then moved down stairs—the entering would then be in the receiving room down stairs—the file was kept on my desk there—no materials were delivered out by me without a ticket after the new regulation—the file up stairs was out of use then—on 23rd April I went up stain and got the file—this paper was the top paper on it</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were there not a great many more papers on it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot say—I did not take particular notice—I brought it down direct.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-70" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL HALE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 607). I received the prisoners in charge—Crosby said "I gave the skins to Krickeldorf and there is the receipt" Krickeldorf said "I never had the parcel, and do not know anything about it."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">KRICKELDORF</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received a good character</hi>.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury</hi>.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-427-18680504 t18680504-427-punishment-16"/>Eight Months' Imprisonment each</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>428.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">AARON GARDINER</hi> (18)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH SEARLE</hi> (18)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BENNETT</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-428-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MOODY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CUNNINGHAM</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">defended Searle</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-75" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-75" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WHITNEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 98). On the evening of the 9th March, about a 5.45, I was on duty in Aldgate High Street, with Green, and saw the three prisoners together walk through Fenchurch Street—when they came to Mr. Ivimey's shop Gardiner and Bennett stopped at the door, each of them handling a coat that was hanging within the doorway—Searle walked about two houses away to the west end of the shop—Gardiner and Bennett passed the shop once or twice—Searle then shifted his position to the east side of the shop—Gardiner then took the coat down—I could not say whether he cut it down or whether he broke it, but he took it off a brass rod, being covered by Bennett—Gardiner went away with the coat—I took Bennett on the spot—I saw no more of Searle till he was brought back by another officer, the coat being brought back with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CUNNINGHAM</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had the constable who brought Searle back got the coat?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, a person from the shop, who had followed—the constable who brought Searle back is not here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-76" type="surname" value="GREEN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-76" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GREEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 280). I saw Gardiner cut the coat down from the shop and run away—I followed him and Searle; Searle was standing on the cast end of the shop, and when Gardiner cut down the coat Searle joined him, and they both ran away together—I saw Gardiner throw the coat to Searle—I followed and took Gardiner into custody in Billiter Street—Searle was running at the time up Billiter Street as fast as he could—he ha I the coat with him—I believe he was stopped by another officer, I did not see it—I took Gardiner back to the shop, and kept him there till Searle was brought back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you say before the Magistrate that Searle ran away? Yes, I did not notice that it was omitted in the deposition—I saw them both running—I overtook Gardiner, and Searle was going ahead with the coat—when Gardiner took the coat Searle was at the side of the shop, round the corner—he could see what Gardiner was doing, he could look through the</p>
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<p>glass front—I was in a position to see nearly everything, I was right facing Item—Searle gave his correct address—he was living with his father and mother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-77" type="surname" value="IVIMEY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-77" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT IVIMEY</persName> </hi>. I assist my father, a tailor, at 120, Fenchuch Street—this coat is my father's—it was hanging at the shop doorway—it is worth 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CUNNINGHAM</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-78" type="surname" value="BENNETT"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-78" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BENNETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">the prisoner</hi>). It was I who cut the coat down, not Gardiner—I threw my knife away and gave the coat to Gardiner; he ran away with it—I kept him in view for a short time, till he turned the corner of the first street—I don't know what he did with the coat—I met Searle twice that day, once about 5.30 and again about 6.15—I asked where he was going—he said "Home," and he bade me and Gardiner good night—it was me and Gardiner who did this affair, and nobody else—Searle had nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you tell this story before the Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I was not asked—I said nothing, I reserved my defence—I don't know much of Searle—I have seen him round the neighbourhood where I live—I was not with him ten minutes altogether this evening—he is nearly a stranger to me—he spoke partly to Gardiner—I had passed Mr. Ivimey's shop about twice—Searle was not with us at all then—I did not see him when I took the coat; I had not seen him after he bid us good night—I did not see where he went when he left us, that was about ten minutes before I took the coat—I did not know him before—I was never with him before that day—we did not walk together along Fenchurch Street</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GARDINER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">having stated that he wished to plead Guilty</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CUNNINGHAM</hi>
<hi rend="italic">proposed to call him also as a witness, but the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">was of opinion he could not do so, he being still upon his trial, for although he had stated that he was guilty, the Jury, being charged with his case, must find a verdict with respect to him, and therefore he was not a competent witness</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GARDINER</hi>
<rs id="t18680504-428-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-428-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-428-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">SEARLE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18680504-428-verdict-3" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-428-verdict-3" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-428-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BENNETT</hi> and
<hi rend="largeCaps">GARDINER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">were further charged with having been before convicted, to which they pleaded</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">SEARLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">was also charged with a previous conviction, but pleaded</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">NOT GUILTY</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-79" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-79" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH SMITH</persName> </hi>. I produce a certificate of Searle's conviction—(
<hi rend="italic">This cer
<lb/>tified the conviction on</hi> 25
<hi rend="italic">th May</hi>, 1867,
<hi rend="italic">at Clerkenwell Police Court, of larceny</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Sentence One Month</hi>)—I was not present at his conviction, but I received him into custody at Cold Bath Fields—I have no doubt he is the person.—
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BENNETT</hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-428-18680504 t18680504-428-punishment-17"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GARDINER</hi>*†—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18680504-428-punishment-18" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-428-punishment-18" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-428-punishment-18" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-428-18680504 t18680504-428-punishment-18"/>Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SEARLE</hi>*—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18680504-428-punishment-19" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-428-punishment-19" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-428-punishment-19" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-428-18680504 t18680504-428-punishment-19"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>429.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM HENRY CLARK</hi> (25)</persName>,
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<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18680504-429-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-429-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>to feloniously forging and uttering an order for the payment of 85
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</rs>
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<interp inst="t18680504-429-punishment-20" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-429-18680504 t18680504-429-punishment-20"/>
<hi rend="italic">Eighteen Months' Imprisonment</hi> </rs>. And</p> </div1>
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<p>430.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM WHITE</hi> (72)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18680504-430-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, to stealing a 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note of
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-82" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-430-offence-1 t18680504-name-82"/>Timothy William Brown</persName></rs>
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<interp inst="t18680504-430-punishment-21" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
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<hi rend="italic">Six Months' Imprisonment</hi> </rs>.
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<interp inst="t18680504-430-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-430-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1868.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<p>431.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ROBERT ROBERTS</hi> (27)</persName>, and
<persName id="def2-431-18680504" type="defendantName">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELLEN SMITH</hi> (26)</persName>
<rs id="t18680504-431-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-431-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-431-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-85" type="surname" value="PARKHURST"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-85" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PARKHURST</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Angel, Back Road, Shadwell—on 25th April, about 11.20 p.m., the prisoner came in with a man named
<hi rend="italic">Joe</hi> Smith—Roberts called for a pint of half-and-half, and gave me a bad shilling, which I put on a shelf away from other money, and gave him the change—shortly afterwards Smith called for a pint of half-and-half—she gave me a bad shilling—I put it on the shelf away from the first, and gave him 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers and a sixpence—they drank it together—about twenty minutes afterwards Roberts called for a pot of half-and-half, and gave me a shilling—I put it to my teeth and it bent—I sent for a constable—Roberts then said that he wanted change for his sixpence; but it was a shilling he gave me, for I had kept it in my hand—I gave the three shillings to the constable—going to the station Smith said, "Why don't you take
<hi rend="italic">Joe</hi> Smith, he was in our company"—I knew that the shillings were bad in the first instance, but I changed them because I wanted to catch
<hi rend="italic">Joe</hi> Smith.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Roberts. Q.</hi> Can you swear that nobody touched them after I gave them to you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot, because they were behind me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were the shillings behind you in the bar?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, my master was the only other person in the bar—I cannot tell whether he touched them, but I found them in the same place.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-86" type="surname" value="BURWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-86" type="given" value="HERBERT"/>HERBERT BURWOOD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Constable</hi>). I was called and took the prisoners—Roberts said, "I gave him a silver sixpence, and was waiting for 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. out"—on the way to the station Smith said, "Why did you not bring
<hi rend="italic">Joe</hi> Smith?"—
<hi rend="italic">Joe</hi> Smith has never been taken—I found 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on Roberts, three sixpences and the rest in coppers; on Smith 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and some coppers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-87" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-87" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-87" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are all bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Roberts' Defence</hi>. I was not aware whether I gave him a sixpence or a shilling. I got the shillings in change for a half-crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Smith's Defence</hi>. He gave me the money to treat myself.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-431-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-431-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/> </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ROBERTS</hi>
<rs id="t18680504-431-punishment-22" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-431-punishment-22" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-431-punishment-22" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
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<hi rend="italic">twelve Months' Imprisonment</hi> </rs>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SMITH</hi>
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<interp inst="t18680504-431-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-431-18680504 t18680504-431-punishment-23"/>
<hi rend="italic">Nine Months' Imprisonment</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
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<p>432.
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<interp inst="def1-432-18680504" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MICHAEL PRENDERGAST</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-89" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-89" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-89" type="surname" value="COPPIN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-89" type="given" value="RACHAEL"/>RACHAEL COPPIN</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Gray's Inn Restaurant, Holborn—on 28th March, in the afternoon, I served the prisoner with four
<lb/>pennyworth of sherry—he gave me a bad half-crown—I showed it to my master, and asked the prisoner what he meant by passing bad money, and told him it was not the first time he had done it—he said that he was not aware it was bad—I gave him in charge with the half-crown, which I had not parted with.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did not I give you a good one for it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A good half-crown was found on you, but you did not attempt to pay.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-90" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-90" type="surname" value="POTTER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-90" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN POTTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman E</hi> 92). The prisoner was given into my charge, with this half-crown—I found a good one on him—he was remanded for a week, and discharged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-91" type="surname" value="PEASLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-91" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PEASLEY</persName> </hi>. I manage the John Barleycorn, East Street, Man
<lb/>chester</p>
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<p>Square—on the evening of 9th April the prisoner gave me a bad shilling for a glass of bitter ale—it was not very bright—I asked him if he had any more like it—he said, "Is not that sufficient to pay for a glass of ale?"—I sent for a constable, and he then offered me another shilling, a new one—I would not accept it, but gave him in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-92" type="surname" value="BIRD"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-92" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BIRD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 226). On 9th April the landlord of the Sir John Barleycorn gave the prisoner into my charge, with this shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I searched him at the station, and found on him a new shilling and a penny—he was very violent, and said that he did not care; he should not have another chance for the next fifteen years.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Q.</hi> Did you on the first occasion, inform the Magistrate that I said I did not care, for I would not utter another shilling for the next fifteen years to come?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I omitted it; but I stated it the second time—you gave a correct name and address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I believe, at the police-court, the first time, there was no solicitor for the Treasury present?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I was not asked questions, the same as I was the second time.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-93" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-crown and shilling are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I received the half-crown in change for a sovereign, and the shilling from my mother, who is here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-94" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-94" type="surname" value="PRENDERGAST"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-94" type="given" value="BRIDGET"/>BRIDGET PRENDERGAST</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's mother, and live in Berwick Street, Oxford Street—on the day he was given in custody the second time, the Thursday before Good Friday, he asked me to lend him 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to buy a coat—I noticed one of the shillings to be a new one, but did not notice any of the others.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How old is he?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Twenty-eight—he works sometimes, and sometimes he does not—he lives with me—he had work a fortnight or three weeks before he was taken—he works as porter or errand boy, or anything he can get to do—he has lived with me five or six months—I believe he had some time in prison before that, but whether he had or not I cannot say—I had not seen him for a couple of years, I dare say, before he came to live with me—I never knew him go by any other name—I do not know his transactions out of doors.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-432-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted at this Court of a like offence, when he was sentenced to Two Years' Imprisonment; to this he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.**
<hi rend="italic">Fourteen other convictions were proved against him</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY ATKINS</hi> (17)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OWEN DORNEY</hi> (18)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-433-offence-1 t18680504-name-97"/>Abel Barry</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. NICHOLSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Atkins, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Dorney</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-98" type="surname" value="BARRY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-98" type="given" value="ABEL"/>ABEL BARRY</persName> </hi>. I am a plasterer, of 4, Reynold Street, King's Road, Chelsea—on 21st April I was in Thames Street about 3 p.m., and at the South-Eastern Railway Arch I saw a parcel of boys, who threw stones at me—I turned round with ray stick, and touched one of them in the eye—a boy in the mob laid hold of me, and said he would give me in charge, and while the policeman was hearing the story, Dorney put his hand in my pocket, and took my watch—I told the policeman, and he began to search him, but he passed it to Atkins—I did not see him pass it, but a witness did—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I saw Atkins drop it; a witness picked it up, and gave it to me, and I gave it to the policeman—my name is in it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How many boys were there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Over twenty—I was not angry when they threw stones—I did not strike the boy wilfully—blood came from his eye—it was not one of the prisoners—I saw Dorney take my watch—I did not strike him, or try to—the police-man was in uniform, and was close to me when my watch was taken—Dorney held me by the arm till he took my watch, and then he tried to get away—I saw the watch drop from Atkins, close by my feet—the policeman had hold of Dorney then, who was trying to get away—we were all close together when the watch fell.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-99" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-99" type="surname" value="NICHOLSON"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-99" type="given" value="MEL"/>MEL NICHOLSON</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you standing where you were robbed when the watch fell?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It did not fall till they were being searched—after the scuffle they threw me down—I found it not more than a couple of steps from where I missed it, and I saw it about two minutes after I lost it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was there a crowd round you when you missed it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I saw my guard drop, and said to the policeman, "My watch is gone."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-100" type="surname" value="BAIRD"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-100" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BAIRD</persName> </hi>. I am a warehouseman to Messrs. Lemons, Old Swan Lane—on the afternoon of 21st April I was employed at the bottom of Old Swan Lane, near the railway arch, and saw a number of boys surround the pro
<lb/>secutor—one of them threw a stone, and he put up his stick over his shoul
<lb/>der, and hit the boy in the eye, and then I saw the prosecutor's chain hanging down, and he said, "I have lost my watch"—I said, loud enough for the prisoner to hear, "Either the big one or the little one has got it," and seized Dorney—Atkins was held by somebody else, who took him into a warehouse opposite, and when he came out I saw the watch drop from his trousers between two casks, about four yards from the prosecutor—Mr. Reid picked it up—he is not here—I saw him give it to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You swore before the Magistrate that you saw it given to the prosecutor, and now you say you saw it given to the constable; which was it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was picked up and given to the pro
<lb/>secutor, but the constable had it after that—I did not take Atkins into the warehouse; a bricklayer did, who is not here—he was not there two minutes—I do not think I swore that I took him in—my memory is rather bad, but I can always depend upon what I think I said—it was not Reid but Cook
<lb/>son's manager who brought Atkins out—he is not here—he was close to Atkins when the watch dropped, and about as far as that lamp from Dorney—they were not all of a lump together when the watch dropped; it came down the leg of his trousers—I had hold of Dorney at the time—there were people all round as—I saw the watch at Atkins feet; I saw it drop from his trousers—a stranger picked it up—Dorney was struggling, and I had at much as I could do to hold him—other people assisted me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I suppose the whole affair did not occupy above a second or two?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not more than two or three minutes altogether—there were about forty or fifty people in the crowd, shouting and laughing—I saw Barry hit the boy—it was after that that he said he had lost his watch.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. NICHOLSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you mean that you held Dorney with one hand and took Atkins into the warehouse with the other?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I said he was taken into the warehouse—Dorney was taken in the street, and Atkins was taken into the warehouse—I saw the watch drop from the bottom of his trousers, between his coat and his trousers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-101" type="surname" value="DALEY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-101" type="given" value="OWEN"/>OWEN DALEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 586). The prisoners were given into my</p>
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<p>custody—Dorney was very rough, and tried to get away—I asked Baird to assist me—I took hold of Atkins—I did not take him into the warehouse, and did not see him go in or come out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did Davis give his correct address?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and denied all knowledge of the watch.</p>
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<p>434.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZA EDMUNDS</hi> (34)</persName>,
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<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18680504-434-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-434-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>to stealing six yards of silk of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-434-offence-1 t18680504-name-103"/>John Rose</persName>, after previous conviction.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Six Months' Imprisonment</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, May</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1868.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">**
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-437-18680504 t18680504-437-punishment-28"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.
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<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18680504-438-charge-3" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-438-18680504 t18680504-438-offence-3 t18680504-438-verdict-1"/>
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<p>438.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM BEAVIS</hi> (25)</persName>
<rs id="t18680504-438-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<interp inst="t18680504-438-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, to burglary, breaking and entering the dwelling houses of
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-113" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-113" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-438-offence-1 t18680504-name-113"/>Joseph Sharpe</persName>, and steal
<lb/>ing one pair of boots and other articles,</rs>
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>
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<interp inst="t18680504-438-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-438-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>to a burglary in the dwelling house of
<persName id="t18680504-name-114" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-114" type="surname" value="ELSWORTHE"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-114" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-438-offence-2 t18680504-name-114"/>John Elsworthe</persName> and stealing nine spoons and other articles,</rs>
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>
<rs id="t18680504-438-offence-3" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-438-offence-3" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-438-offence-3" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>to a burglary in the dwelling house of
<persName id="t18680504-name-115" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-115" type="surname" value="LESSLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-115" type="given" value="PAUL"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-438-offence-3 t18680504-name-115"/>Paul Lessley</persName>, and stealing one cigar case, one pencil case, and other articles,</rs> and
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>
<rs id="t18680504-438-offence-4" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-438-offence-4" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-438-offence-4" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>to a burglary in the dwelling-house of
<persName id="t18680504-name-116" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-116" type="surname" value="BARNES"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-116" type="given" value="JOHN HENRY"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-438-offence-4 t18680504-name-116"/>John Henry Barnes</persName>, and stealing three coats, and 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., in money.**—</rs>
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<interp inst="t18680504-438-punishment-29" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-438-punishment-29" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-438-18680504 t18680504-438-punishment-29"/>
<hi rend="italic">Fourteen Years' Penal Servitude</hi> </rs>.
<rs id="t18680504-438-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-438-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-438-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18680504-439" type="date" value="18680504"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18680504-439-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-439-18680504 t18680504-439-offence-1 t18680504-439-verdict-1"/>
<p>439.
<persName id="def1-439-18680504" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-439-18680504" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-439-18680504" type="age" value="23"/>
<interp inst="def1-439-18680504" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="def1-439-18680504" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN BROWN</hi> (23)</persName>
<rs id="t18680504-439-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-439-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-439-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of
<persName id="t18680504-name-118" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-118" type="surname" value="WEDLOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-118" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-439-offence-1 t18680504-name-118"/>Thomas Wedlock</persName> with intent to steal.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WOOD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-119" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-119" type="surname" value="WEDLOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-119" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WEDLOCK</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, and live at 59, Gillingham Street, Pimlico—I occupy the house and sleep in the back parlour down stairs—about 5.30 on Sunday morning, 12th April, I heard a noise at my bed room door—I called out "Who's there"—I received no answer—I saw the door open, and jumped out of bed and caught sight of two men, they ran away, the prisoner was one of them—I followed and met a policeman, and the prisoner turned back and I followed—the policeman missed the other man and followed the prisoner—I went home and put on my clothes—I lost nothing—my house was safe when I went to bed—I was last up at night, and I am quite sure I shut the door, and none of my lodgers went out afterwards—the door must have been opened by a false key.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-120" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-120" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-120" type="surname" value="MCMANUS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-120" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS MCMANUS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 83). At 5.30 on the morning of the 12th April, I saw the prosecutor in pursuit of the prisoner—I was about ten or twelve yards from him—it was light then—I followed the prisoner—when he saw me he ran up a bye street—another policeman took up the pursuit—I saw him distinctly and am positive he is the man—I did not know him before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-121" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-121" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman B</hi> 214). About 5.30, on the 12th April, I saw the last witness in pursuit of the prisoner—I was about one hundred yards off—I saw the man distinctly—I followed for about a half a mile and</p>
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<p>found the prisoner, concealed in a coal cellar, at 15. Clarendon Street, an occupied house—I took him into custody—I asked him what he had been doing; he made no answer—Wedlock came up and charged him with being in his house—the prisoner said the door was open when he passed by, and he went in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I never went into the house with intent to steal; the door was wide open.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18680504-439-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-439-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-439-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18680504-439-punishment-30" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-439-punishment-30" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-439-punishment-30" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-439-18680504 t18680504-439-punishment-30"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<div1 type="trialAccount" id="t18680504-440">
<interp inst="t18680504-440" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18680504"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-440" type="date" value="18680504"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18680504-440-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-440-18680504 t18680504-440-offence-1 t18680504-440-verdict-1"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18680504-440-charge-2" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-440-18680504 t18680504-440-offence-1 t18680504-440-verdict-2"/>
<p>440.
<persName id="def1-440-18680504" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-440-18680504" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-440-18680504" type="age" value="22"/>
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<interp inst="def1-440-18680504" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES MAY</hi> (22)</persName>, and
<persName id="def2-440-18680504" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-440-18680504" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="def2-440-18680504" type="age" value="20"/>
<interp inst="def2-440-18680504" type="surname" value="MAY"/>
<interp inst="def2-440-18680504" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY ANN MAY</hi> (20)</persName>
<rs id="t18680504-440-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-440-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-440-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglary in the dwelling-house of John Matthew Stedwell, and stealing two watches, a pin, and other articles.
<hi rend="italic">Second count</hi>—Receiving.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-124" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-124" type="surname" value="HARRIS"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-124" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH HARRIS</persName> </hi>. I live at Church Street, Twickenham, and am housekeeper to Mr. Stedwell—on Sunday evening, 26th January, I was with another servant, named Matilda Hurrell, in a back room on the ground floor, between 9 and 10 o'clock; I am sure it was after 9—we were sitting together, and the door was pushed open—I jumped up, and went to the doorway, and saw two men in the passage: one went towards the stairs—one said to the other, "Is your pistol ready?" and the other answered, "Right"—the male prisoner then came into the room, and said, "Not a word, or I will blow your brains out"—he then showed me an iron bar, and said he would dash my brains out if I halloaed, or made any noise—he then said, "You have the keys?"—I said I had not; it was not very often that servants were trusted with the keys—he said that would do—he then asked me what money I had about me—I said I had none at all—he asked how many stories high the house was—I said, "Two"—he then said if I moved or called out, that he would dash my brains out with the iron bar, and he put the iron bar towards my face—he asked if I valued my life—I said, "Of course I do"—he said, "Then hold your noise"—I heard the other man up stairs all this time—I heard some breaking of things—after some time I heard a box fall—the other servant said to me, "That is the cash box"—I said, "No, it is the plate box," and the prisoner said, "Not a word"—the other man then came down stairs, and came into the room with a gun, and said to the prisoner, "Take this, shoot them: spare no lives"—the prisoner took the gun, and laid it on the parlour table—he said, "If you attempt to go to the window I will shoot your brains out through the window"—he then went out of the room, and looked the door—I gave evidence against the other man last sessions, or the sessions before; he was convicted, and got eighteen months—some time after they had gone I went up stairs—my room was all upset, and the clothes about the room—a small box had been broken open, and was empty: it had contained three brooches, two pins, and other articles—I have no doubt about the prisoner being the man—he was in the room about three-quarters of an hour—there were three gas burners in the room, full on.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you quite sure of the time, between 9 and 10 on 26th January?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I was the principal witness in the case against the man who was convicted—I was very much frightened when the man came into the room—I did not flinch when he shook the bar in front of me—I stood up in front of him—my fellow servant screamed out, and put her hands up before her face—the prisoner was in the room about three-quarters of an hour—I did not scream out—I was excited when he first came into the room, but I got cool after; I answered him when he spoke to me—I had</p>
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<p>never seen him before—I saw him afterwards at the Twickenham police-station; I do not know on what day: it was about three weeks ago, about the end of March—I never saw him before the 26th January, and I did not see him till the end of March—a police sergeant then came down, and told me he wanted me, and asked me if I would go to the station—he said, "I have a man here, will you come and look at him?"—I said, "Certainly"—I saw seven or eight men, and picked out the prisoner as the man—they were all dressed in different clothes—I think the prisoner was at the side of the row—he was not at the extreme end—I cannot say where he stood—I know he stood amongst the men.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You had no difficulty in knowing the man when you saw him at the police-station?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I picked him out directly, and repeated the words he said to me—he was in a row of seven or eight.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You said there were seven or eight men at the station; you adhere to that statement, there were not two?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—the sergeant did not say to me, "Is that the man?" I picked him out myself—none of the other witnesses were there—I went alone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-125" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-125" type="surname" value="HURRELL"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-125" type="given" value="METILDA"/>METILDA HURRELL</persName> </hi>. I am a servant in the employ of Mr. Stedwell—on the night of 26th January, I was sitting with the last witness in the back room—the door came open—Elizabeth Harris went round the table, towards the door, and the prisoner came into the room, and another man went up stairs—the prisoner came into the room and stopped there the whole time—when he came in he said, "If you say a word, I will dash your brains out"—before they came into the room, I heard one say, "Is your pistol ready?"—the other said "Right"—the prisoner kept walking up and down the room, and said if we said a word, or whispered to each other, he would dash our brains out—he had an iron crowbar and a pistol in his hand—I heard a noise up stairs, and heard something fall—I said, "There is the cash box"—Elizabeth Harris said, "No, it is the plate box"—the prisoner then said, "Not a word; I will dash your brains out"—he had the crowbar in his hand then—there was full light in the room—I should think the pri
<lb/>soner was in the room three quarters of an hour—the other man came down stairs a little while after they had been in the house, and brought a gun into the room and gave it to the prisoner, and said, "Spare no lives; shoot their brains out"—shortly after that they both left—they said if we made any noise they would shoot us through the window—they then went out, locked the door, and took the key away—the other man was tried and convicted last Session—I have not the least doubt about the prisoner—I am sure he is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. When you first saw him, you were not quite so sure, were you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am almost sure he is the man—he was in the room about three quarters of an hour—I screamed very much—we were both very much frightened—Harris stood up the whole of the time the man was in the room—he asked what money she had about her, and she said "None"—I think it was last month I was taken to see this man—I did not pick him out—I was not taken to the station—I saw him in the cart, when he was a prisoner, going to Brentford—there was a policeman with him—I have not the least doubt he is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-126" type="surname" value="PAYNE"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-126" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES PAYNE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant T</hi> 19). On the 2nd of April, I was standing at the door of the House of Detention, at Clerkenwell—I apprehended the female prisoner, Mary Ann May, as she was leaving the House of Detention—I told her she was charged with being concerned in breaking into the</p>
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<p>house of Mr. Stedwell—she said she had nothing to do with it—I told her there were several articles of jewellery stolen, and amongst them a pin, which had been pawned at Mr. Bowman's, Camberwell, and I believed it was her who pledged it—she said, "I did pledge it, but it was my uncle Charles's pin"—I said I knew she was in Teddington on that day; and she was also charged with stealing a counterpane from Teddington—she said, "I was not there; I was in London"—I said, "You were staying at Teddington for nearly a fortnight, with your husband, along with your uncle, Charles Pil
<lb/>kington"—she said, "I was not in the country; it is very hard that I cannot go out with my husband without getting into trouble"—on the 30th March, I went to the house where the prisoner lived—I searched, and found a tin box, with eleven duplicates in it, and an affidavit for a gold pin—I went to the pawnbroker's shop on the same day, and got the pin, and took it to Mr. Ratcliffe, and he identified it as his—on the 26th January, I went to Mr. Stedwell's premises, and examined the house—in Ratcliffe's bed room I found a chest of drawers, a writing desk, and other boxes broken open, and everything strewed about the room—in Elizabeth Harris's room, I found a chest of drawers broken open, and the things lying about the room; and in Mr. Stedwell's bed room I found the plate box in the middle of the room—that was not opened—I then went into the garden, and saw two footprints leading to the parlour window from over the wall.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-127" type="surname" value="RATCLIFFE"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-127" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK RATCLIFFE</persName> </hi>. I live at Mr. Stedwell's, at Twickenham—this pin belongs to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-128" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-128" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-128" type="surname" value="BASSETT"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-128" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BASSETT</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Bowman, pawnbroker, 199, Camberwell Road—this pin was pledged on the 28th January, 1868, in the name of Routen, by the female prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When did you see her again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the 19th March.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-129" type="surname" value="CROOKENDEN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-129" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CROOKENDEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman T</hi> 182). On the 30th March, about 8.30, I met Charles May, in Waterloo Street, Camberwell—I took him by the collar and asked him if his name was May—he said, "No"—I said, "I am sure your name is May"—he said, "No it is not"—I then told him that he was charged with being concerned in a burglary at Twickenham—he said "I do not know a single house in Twickenham, and have not been there at all"—as I was taking him to the station, he said he had been there twice but he did not know it—he gave a false address—I afterwards took him to Twickenham.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-130" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-130" type="surname" value="HARE"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-130" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE"/>CHARLOTTE HARE</persName> </hi>. I live at Twickenham Common, and am a dressmaker—on 26th January last I saw a man named Pilkington standing near the Old Church, between 7 and 8 in the evening, in company with a female, who I believe to be the prisoner—I then went as far as Richmond Bridge, and came back between 8 and 9—I saw Pilkington with another man and a woman nearly opposite Mr. Stedwell's—I believe the man and woman to be the prisoners.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> This was in January?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it was dark; I had seen the male prisoner the night before—I next saw them on the 4th April, at Brentford.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it too dark for you to see the persons there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was a gas light—they were about a yard and a half from it—I had a good opportunity of seeing their faces—I saw the male prisoner the night before, and spoke to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-131" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-131" type="surname" value="WAGSTAFF"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-131" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY WAGSTAFF</persName> </hi>. I live at 2, Queen's Road, Upper Teddington, and</p>
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<p>am the wife of Henry Wagstaff—I know the two prisoners, they were staying at my house on the 26th January, with Pilkington, the man who was tried last Sessions—the male prisoner and Pilkington went out between 5 and 6, and the female prisoner about half or three-quarters of an hour afterwards—Pilkington came home about 10.30 or 11.0, and the two prisoners from 11.30 to 12.0—they left the next morning, and I never saw them again till I saw them in Brentford—Pilkington went away on the Monday, and came back on the Sunday following.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What time did the prisoners come home that night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Between 11 and 12—they were living at my house as man and wife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-132" type="surname" value="MOORE"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-132" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MOORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman P</hi> 171). I have known the two prisoners about five years—I believe they are not married, but I don't know for certainty.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The following Witnesses were called for the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-133" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-133" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-133" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-133" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I live at 9, Allen Street, Southampton Street, Camberwell—on the night of 26th January, on that night, Mrs. May sent round her little girl to say she was very ill—I know it was the 26th, because it was my husband's birthday—I went to church in the evening, and called at Mrs. May's as I went home—I saw the prisoner Charles May and his brother, sitting in the parlour, as I passed through to go to his mother—I did not see the other prisoner—I think it was nearly nine—I might have stopped there twenty minutes—when I came down stairs he was still there, and I wished him "Good night," and he said the same—that was all that passed between us.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you known him before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, for many yean—he was a tailor, and did many jobs for my husband—I was not before the Magistrate—I was told he was taken up about a week or so ago—his mother asked me if I recollected calling on her when she was ill—I said "Yes," and I had seen Charles May and his brother sitting in the parlour as I passed through—that was at 8, Waterloo Street—I had not been there for some time before that night; but her little girl used to go backwards and forwards, and she told me her mother was ill—the mother is not here to day—the little girl is six or seven years old—I have known his mother about twenty years—she has got four sons—I know them all, but not so intimately as I know the prisoner—he does not live with his mother—I think I saw the prisoner last year—I will not swear I saw him at all—I will not swear that I saw him in 1866, or 1867, or 1865—I will not swear at all—I do not know whether he is married, it is no business of mine.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you quite sure you saw him on 26th January?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, with his brother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you been to see his mother on other occasions?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I often drop in as I leave church in the evening. I did not go the Sunday following—I was at church, and after that I went home—I do not know where I was the Sunday after that—I might have called on my son—it is impossible to account for every Sunday—I have called on Mrs. May in the week days—I saw the prisoner a week before the 26th, in Camberwell, standing outside the Waterloo Arms—I had a basket of clothes, and I asked him to help me, and he did—it was the beginning of the week, because I fetch my work home at the beginning of the week—I do not know when I saw him before that—he might have passed me, and I might have passed him.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-134" type="surname" value="MAY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-134" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MAY</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's brother, and live at 2, Herbert Lane, Camberwell—on Sunday, 26th January, I was at my mother's house, and saw the prisoner there—my mother was ill at the time—I was there with him about an hour and a half altogether—I was there before he came in—I left about 9 or a little after—I left him outside the gate going away—he told me he was going back to Teddington.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What time was that?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About 9 o'clock—I should not like to swear to the time exactly—I will swear it was not before 9—I am a ladies' and gentlemen's wardrobe dealer—I do not keep a shop—I go about from one place to another, and call at people's houses—I do not know where my brother was the day before Saturday, or Friday—I was on my own business—I did not know where he was living—Pilkington is my brother-in-law—he was convicted here last Sessions—I was not here—I do not know whether my brother is married—I believe he is—I was not at the wedding—I should think it was about four years ago—I did not come to give evidence for my brother-in-law.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How is it that you fix Sunday as the 26th?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I go to help a Jew to sort rage on a Sunday—I went up there, and was obliged to leave off work at 12, and I went down to see my mother as she was ill—I belong to a club, and it was a friendly night, and I went down to a meeting—I have seen my brother at my mother's house on several occasions—I bed the face-ache bad, and that Sunday I was obliged to leave off work at 12—I had been working about two hours and a half—I have breakfast there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-135" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-135" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD JONES</persName> </hi>. I live at 91, Waterloo Street, Camberwell—on 26th January I had been out on a little business, and as I was coming home I met Charles May at the Waterloo Arms—that was near 10 o'clock, I think—he said he was going to the railway station, and asked me to go with him—I said I could not, as I was waiting to see somebody with some money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A shoemaker—I know it was on the 26th, because I had to meet a man for some money—I do not know what his name was or where he lives—he owed me 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for half-soling and heeling a pair of boots—I do not know where he works—I have done several jobs for him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">EMILY WAGSTAFF</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You told us that the two prisoners were staying with Pilkington at your house on 26th January last, when did they come to stay with you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> They had been there about a fortnight—I do not know where they had been that day—they were in and out all day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES MAY</hi>
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<interp inst="t18680504-440-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY ANN MAY</hi>
<rs id="t18680504-440-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-440-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-440-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="lesserOffence"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>of Receiving. </rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">They were further charged with having been before convicted, Charles May on</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st December</hi>, 1864,
<hi rend="italic">at Southwark, and Mary Ann May on</hi> 31
<hi rend="italic">st January</hi>, 1866,
<hi rend="italic">at Lambeth, to which they</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES MAY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-440-punishment-31" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-440-18680504 t18680504-440-punishment-31"/>ten Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY ANN MAY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18680504-440-punishment-32" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18680504-440-punishment-32" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-440-punishment-32" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-440-18680504 t18680504-440-punishment-32"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>441.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM ATTWOOD</hi> (29)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ROBERT HOOPER</hi> (38)</persName>,
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<lb/>glariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-138" type="given" value="GEORGE JOHN"/>George John Cavefy</persName>, and stealing forty-eight spoons, twenty-four forks, and other articles, his property,</rs> to which
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM ATTWOOD</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-441-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-441-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-441-18680504 t18680504-441-punishment-33"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-139" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-139" type="surname" value="MCLACKLEN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-139" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH MCLACKLEN</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Mr. George John Cavefy, of 26, pembridge Gardens, Notting Hill—on Friday night, 3rd April, I</p>
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<p>locked up the silver safe in a cupboard in the pantry; and I saw all the house safe at 11 o'clock—the next day I went downstairs about 6 o'clock—I found the pantry window wide open, and the pantry in great confusion—there was a panel of the cupboard door taken out—there was a silver cruet-stand on the table—the plated fish-knives and forks were left in the cupboard—I know the articles (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) as being the property of my master—they were all safe when I went to bed—there are forty-nine spoons and twenty-four forks, and other articles here, which were stolen.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-140" type="surname" value="ASPINSHAW"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-140" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ASPINSHAW</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector X</hi>). On Saturday morning, 4th April, I had information of this robbery, and went to 26, Pembridge Gardens, and examined the premises—I found the iron bar of the pantry window had been bent with a piece of rope, large enough for a person to get in—the panel of a cupboard inside was taken out—this chisel was brought to the station; it corresponded with marks on the cupboard—I did not find the chisel myself—this piece of wax taper was also given to me—it corresponds with some which was found on the prisoner—I also found this button on the window-sill, and that corresponds with other buttons on the prisoner Attwood—I examined his waistcoat and found two buttons mining.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-141" type="surname" value="PALMER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-141" type="given" value="MICHAEL"/>MICHAEL PALMER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 6). About 2.15 on Saturday afternoon, I saw the prisoner Hooper go to a broker's shop, and I watched him—he remained there some time, and when he got a little way from the house I stopped him, and said I should take him into custody—I found on him six teaspoons, with initials on them corresponding with the initials on the ether property—he made no remark at the time—I took him to the station—he afterwards sent for me to the cell, and made a statement to me which I took down in writing, and he signed as a voluntary statement—I read it over to him and he said it was correct (
<hi rend="italic">Statement read</hi>: "Robert Hooper, 7, Adams' Mews, Grosvenor Square. Molyneux Street Police-station, April 5th, 1868. A young man called
<hi rend="italic">Bill</hi> came in on Saturday morning, about 9.30, and sent up for me. I was in bed at the time. I sent for him to come to me. He asked me if I had got a bag to lend him; I gave him one. I dressed myself, and we went out together. He went away, and I waited till he returned, and we went home together. He asked me to take charge of the bag, and I put it under the bed. He then took six spoons from his pocket, and gave them to me to sell. I was then taken into custody. The bag and contents is now locked in my room, but I do not know what it contains. The man is suspected to live in North Row, on the left side. This statement is made by me, Robert Hooper.")—I then went to the room of the prisoner, and found all the property now produced in a bag under the bed, with the exception of the six spoons—they were identified by the prosecutor—I went to Pembridge Gardens, and examined some footmarks with the prisoners' boots—I found four different footprints, and I made an impression on each side with the boots of both the prisoners, and they corresponded exactly—they were the footprints of two persons.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Hooper</hi>. I was never near the place in my life.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-142" type="surname" value="BOND"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-142" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BOND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman D</hi> 148). About half-past eleven on Monday morning, I went to 7, Adams' Mews, South Audley Street, and saw the prisoner Attwood—I told him I was a police constable, and should take him into custody for burglary—I asked him if he knew a person of the name of
<hi rend="italic">Bob</hi>; he said "Yes I have seen him once"—he said "I know nothing about the burglary"—on the way to the station he said "Is
<hi rend="italic">Bob</hi> locked up"—I said</p>
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<p>"Yes, he was locked up on Saturday"—he said "He must have been a goose not to have managed it better than that"—on searching him at the station I found two pieces of wax taper on him, which I produce—I also found a shorter taper of the same kind, in the kitchen at Pembridge Gardens.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-143" type="surname" value="HALEY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-143" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HALEY</persName> </hi>. I live at 7, Adams' Mews, Grosvenor Square—Hooper lodged at my house five months—on Saturday, 4th April, he came with Attwood—Hooper was carrying a bag—he told me before he went out that he was going to look for a situation—I had not seen Attwood before—I said to Hooper, "You have soon returned from your place," and he said "Yes"—they remained together for a good while—next day Attwood came again and asked for
<hi rend="italic">Bob</hi>—I said he had not been home all night, and he went away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-144" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-144" type="surname" value="CAVEFY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-144" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY CAVEFY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of George John Cavefy, of 26, Pembridge Gardens—these things produced are my property, they are worth between 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Attwood was in my service about five yean ago for nine months—at that time I knew nothing against him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-145" type="surname" value="GOULDEN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-145" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES GOULDEN</persName> </hi>. I live in Cranford Street, Marylebone—Hooper came to my house on Saturday, the 4th April, and told me he had got some plate to sell—I had nobody at home at the time; I asked him to call again at 2 o'clock—I went down to the police station and the Inspector sent two detectives up—he came in again a little after 2; and showed me half a dozen silver spoons, and he said he had got about twenty pounds weight of plate from a robbery which had been committed three months ago in the north of Ireland, the men had given it to him, and he had had it ever since—I said "How can you expect me to buy the plate if it was stolen; I shall have nothing at all to do with it"—he said "I hope you will act on the square"—I understood that to mean that I was to say nothing—he went away, and was taken by the detectives.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-146" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-146" type="surname" value="WARREN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-146" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WARREN</persName> </hi>. I live at 46, Portland Place—Hooper lodged with me—on Saturday, the 4th April, I was in bed with him between 8 and 9 in the morning, and Attwood came in with a pot of beer—he said he had been helping a man to finish a garden in Kensington, and had got 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he asked Hooper if he could lend him a carpet bag, and Hooper said "Yes"—he asked him to go out with him and they went out together, with the bag, which was empty—I saw them come back again, and there was then something heavy in the bag, it appeared to be full—Hooper was carrying it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-147" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-147" type="surname" value="MCLACKLEN"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-147" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH MCLACKLEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). These wax tapers I left in the kitchen overnight—I found this chisel on the pantry table next morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Hooper's Defence</hi>. I was in bed on the Saturday evening, as the landlord said. I was not out of the house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-441-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-441-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-441-punishment-34" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-441-punishment-34" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-441-18680504 t18680504-441-punishment-34"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>442.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY WRIGHT</hi> (21)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18680504-442-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, Feloniously forging a request for the delivery of 4lbs. of tea and 4lbs. of coffee, with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LANDGFORD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-149" type="surname" value="BARTON"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-149" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BARTON</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Thomas Bates, 51, Grace church Street—about 2 o'clock on the afternoon of the 30th April the prisoner came there, and brought this order (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "April 30, 1868. Please send by bearer 41bs. of tea and ditto of coffee. I am, yours respectfully, Mr. Valen
<lb/>tine, Salisbury Court, Fleet Street")—we had a customer of that name, who had dealt with us eight or ten years—I asked the man if he had come from</p>
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<p>Mr. Valentine's, and he said he had—he said he was Mr. Valentine's servant, the only one he kept—I did not give him the coffee or the tea.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-150" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-150" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM VALENTINE</persName> </hi>. I keep a coffee-house in Salisbury Court, Fleet Street—this order is not in my handwriting—I authorized no one to write it, and I did not give the prisoner permission to use it—he lived with me about three years ago for ten months, when I dealt with the same grocers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-151" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN CARVELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 739). On 30th April, from information, I took the prisoner into custody in the shop of Mr. Bates, in Grace church Street—he was charged with uttering a forged note, for the purpose of obtaining goods—on the way to the station he said a man gave him the order, but he did not know who he was—at the station I found on him a half-sheet of paper which corresponded with the other half-sheet of the order.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. It was given to me by a man at the top of King William Street. He said I was to wait for an answer, and get a small parcel. I know no more of the order than that I did not know that I had the half-sheet of paper in my pocket.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-442-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-442-punishment-35" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-442-18680504 t18680504-442-punishment-35"/>Twelve Months' Imprisonment</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against the prisoner</hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN BOWYER</hi> (21)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-443-offence-1 t18680504-name-153"/>Edwin Hunt</persName>, and stealing 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., his money.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STARLING</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-154" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN HUNT</persName> </hi>. I live at 1, Suffolk Street, Clerkenwell—on Thursday morning, 16th April, between 12 and 1, I was close to my own door, and heard footsteps behind me—just as I was looking round I was thrown down on the ground—I believe it was by the prisoner or his companions—I just caught sight of him—I have a doubt about him—I did not swear to him before the Magistrate; but I have a doubt now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">upon this evidence, considered there was no case against the prisoner</hi>.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-443-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="directed"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES MURPHY</hi> (24)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18680504-444-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-444-offence-1 t18680504-name-156"/>James Maynard</persName>, and stealing two rings and other articles, his property.</rs>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-157" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-157" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE MAYNARD</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of James Maynard, Chalmer's Terrace, Stoke Newington—We had a lodger named Alfred Goldstone—on Saturday, 18th April, I went out with my husband, about 4 o'clock—I had locked the house up; as I went out at the front door I tried it—we returned about 11, and found the door was bolted on the inside—while we were there Mr. and Mrs. Goldstone came up, and they could not open it—my husband and Goldstone went round to the back of the house, and let us in—I helped to search the down stairs part of the house, as much as I was able—I was very much frightened, and I went out into the street to the front of the house—I saw the first floor window raised, and a man's head came out—the man was the prisoner; I am sure of that—he got across the window and dropped—as he fell I caught hold of his coat, but he got away—Mr. Goldstone came down at my screaming, and we ran after him—I saw him caught—I never lost sight of him—I lost half a sovereign and two rings.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> How do you know me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> By your face—I saw you under three lamps—I never lost sight of you—you were at the station ten minutes before I got there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-158" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED GOLDSTONE</persName> </hi>. I occupy the first floor of Mr. Maynard's house—on</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I was a quarter of a mile away from the house when they caught me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-444-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-444-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18680504-444-punishment-36" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-444-18680504 t18680504-444-punishment-36"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1868.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Willes</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MORGAN</hi> (31)</persName>, was indicted for
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEASLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution; and</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. McDONALD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-161" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MAHONY</persName> </hi>. I am now a private soldier in the 13th Hussars, stationed at the depot, Canterbury—in the year 1865, I was a private in the Military Train stationed at Woolwich—in October that year I went with some of my comrades to the Spread Eagle public-house, Woolwich Common—I met the prisoner there, I had not known him before, he was introduced to me by Berry, a Marine—there were a great many soldiers there at the time, some of the Artillery, some of the Military Train, and some Marines; they were drinking porter, a man named St Clare or Thompson was paying for it—a man called Sprigging was also there, paying—they were civilians—the prisoner was drinking with us, he went by the name of Mohan—the soldiers were in uniform—St. Clair asked me to take the Fenian oath—I refused at first—the prisoner asked me why would I not take it—I did not know what it was—some men went out of the house after I refused—I had heard him ask them if they would take the Fenian oath—he took them out into the yard separately, one by one, and they came in again—the prisoner asked me why I would not take the Fenian oath, the same as my comrades had done, and act as a man should do towards the cause of my country—I am an Irishman—he said it was for the purpose of regain
<lb/>ing Ireland—after some time I went out with St. Clair and took the oath—it was for the purpose of establishing a republic in Ireland and keeping the country for the Irish—that is the most I can think of it—nothing more was said at that time—we met several times after that—I only met the prisoner once after that, that was in November, 1865, at the Duchess of Wellington public-house—I went there by appointment with other soldiers, McCarthy and Bryant of the Military Train, McGough and others—McCarthy made the appointment with the prisoner—when I got there the prisoner was in the house—I asked him how he was getting on—he said "Very well—I said 1 had brought a man down to swear in—I introduced him</p>
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<p>to a man named Bryant—he said it was all right, he was very glad to see I was getting on as I ought to do—he took Bryant out into the yard by himself—when he came in again, I asked the prisoner was he all right and he said "Yes"—the prisoner said he had come from Aldershot that day and had had a very narrow escape of being arrested there—he was seducing soldiers to desert at that time—we had some beer and went away—I did not see the prisoner again till December, 1865, in London; I had then deserted—I went to London—through Farrell, a Fenian agent, a civilian; he told me to go to London, but previous to that McCarthy had received a letter from the prisoner, he handed it to me, it was signed "Peter Mohan" I took it to other soldiers, I afterwards burnt it—McCarthy told me to take it to other soldiers—I took it to Cunningham, of the 5th Brigade Royal Artillery, and also to Thomas Farrell; those men afterwards went to London—it was partly in consequence of that letter that I went to London, not altogether—Thomas Farrell, the civilian, came down for the purpose of taking us to London; I had never seen him before, he came to my room in the camp on the night of the 27th December, 1865—I went to London with him, he paid my fare—ten men went with me, McGough and Leonard of the Military Train, Michael Farrell and Thomas Connolly of the 5th Brigade Royal Artillery, Niel Cunningham, of the 5th Brigade, and Sullivan, of the Royal Horse Artillery—we all started from Charlton station, that is away from Woolwich—we were all in uniform—Thomas Farrell, the civilian, paid our fare, and gave us tickets—we went by train to London Bridge, and Farrell took us to a public-house there, where we met the prisoner—Michael Farrell, the soldier, was with us—we all went in together—the prisoner welcomed us, and paid for some drink—after that we went to Vine Court, Whitechapel—Thomas Farrell, the civilian, paid for the cabs, and we went there; he went with us—we went to a public-house in Vine Court; I don't know who it was kept by—the prisoner went with us—I got half-a-crown from him to pay for some drink—we remained there a short time, and then went to Michael Butler's, in Vine Court, a private house—I had not seen him before—the prisoner and all the soldiers went there, and Farrell, the civilian; they took us there—I asked the prisoner and Farrell what time we should get our things, that is, the civilians' things, and leave our uniforms—the prisoner had spoken about changing our things, but he said there was a great job to get them; they had to go to several places for them, as there might be remarks passed—he said we should have them by 10 or 11 o'clock—we did not get them that night—we all slept at Butler's that night—we got our change of clothes on the morning of the 29th—I could not say who brought them; I did not see them brought—we all changed—they were suits; we could fit ourselves—I left my uniform there—all the soldiers stripped and left their uniforms there, and put on civilians' clothes—I did not see the prisoner or Farrell while doing this—we afterwards went in cabs to the Euston Square Station—Thomas Farrell went with us, and I saw the prisoner there—we were to go by the Irish mail train, at 7.30—we were not in time for that, and we went by the 9 train—Farrell got the tickets for us; he gave me mine—I did not see any money—I saw him have some tickets; I did not see him get them—my hat did not fit me, and I changed hats with the prisoner—six or seven of us went off by that train; some had gone the day before—we were all provided with tickets—neither the prisoner or Farrell went with us—the prisoner said we should</p>
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<p>hardly be time enough, because the rising was expected on 3rd January, 1866—he said he would soon see me in Dublin—I went by train, and reached Dublin in due course—I next saw the prisoner, in January, 1866, at my lodging in High Street, Dublin—I received daily pay there, and paid for my own lodging—Devoy was the paymaster; St. Clair brought us the money; it was 18
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a day—seven or eight of us soldiers lodged together; we were wearing the civilians' clothes that we had got at Butler's house—the prisoner asked me bow I was getting on—I said, "Very badly"—he said, "You are as well off as anybody else"—I asked him was there any chance of a rising to take place in Ireland—he said there was an expedition expected from New York, and they were waiting for their arrival to have a rising—that was all that passed—I never saw him after that till he was in custody—that was the day I was examined at the police-court, on 16th March, this year.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How did you get back again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was six months in Mount joy Prison, Ireland—I was arrested under the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act—I was liberated on 15 th September, on condition that I left the country, which I did, and went to Liverpool—I was arrested in Liverpool on 21st September, and tried at the Winter Assizes, for the possession of forty-seven stand of arms, but was acquitted—I was then identified as a deserter, and was sent back to my regiment—I was then in the Military Train—I was transferred to the 13th Hussars in June, and am in that regiment now—I saw Corydon on one of my examinations at Bow Street—I had seen him in Ireland three or four times, to the beet of my know
<lb/>ledge—I never saw him in company with the prisoner; I saw him in com
<lb/>pany with soldiers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> At the time you met the prisoner at the Spread Eagle, were other soldiers along with you, drinking?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—they were not paying for it—I did not pay—I was then getting ninepence a day pay—it is not unusual for civilians to treat soldiers—St. Clair paid for the drink at the Spread Eagle; he bad a reason for it—I knew what his intentions were then; I was told that night—I did not approve of his intentions—I was about twenty-one years of age at that time—I had been in the service since September, 1864—nothing was said about money on that occasion—I said I would not go to London except I got money to go there—I believe it was in January, 1866, that I saw the prisoner in Ireland—it was either January or February—I only saw him once there—I was having my breakfast at the time he came in; he remained about half an hour—there were other soldiers present, Michael Farrel, Niel Cunningham, Connolly, and Thomas Farrell—I did not ask him for any money—the others spoke to him, I don't know what they said—I changed hats with the prisoner at Euston Square station, because mine was too large for me, his was smaller—I left the lodging in High Street, Dublin, in February, and went to Vickers' Street—I remained there nearly a fortnight—I then went back to High Street, and stayed there till I was arrested on 10th March—I was doing nothing during that time—I was still receiving money from St Clair—when I went from Ireland to Liverpool I went to a house I knew there, the
<hi rend="italic">Fail me never</hi>—I had 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. then—I re
<lb/>mained in Liverpool only five days—I was told by a man named Anderson, a Fenian agent, to take the arms in a cart to the railway station, and I was arrested—four of us were tried—I was acquitted, and then taken as a deserter, and sent to prison—I returned to the service on the 7th January—I</p>
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<p>first informed the authorities that I was a Fenian on 11th February, 1867—I did that through information I saw given against me by McGough—Thomas Farrell, the civilian, was a small man with a black or brown beard, and a moustache, I think—I was with him for six or eight hours—I saw him three or four times; he had a beard much like the prisoner—I knew Sprigging, he was a young man about 5 feet 10 inches; he was younger than the prisoner—we came up from Woolwich on the night of 27th December—I only had one glass of ale at the public-house near London Bridge—I might have had a share of two pots between seven or eight of us before we left Woolwich—at the public-house in Vine Court, I had about a glass and a half—we had whiskey at Butler's, I had about a glass and a half—I was not perfectly sober at the end—we went to bed about 12.30 or 1.0—we got there about 11—when I went to identify the prisoner there were twenty or thirty others with him, differently dressed—Inspector Thompson was there, he stood either behind or at the side of me—I identified the prisoner at once—the moment I caught sight of him, I went and put my hand on his shoulder and said, "That's the man"—I have been in town ever since that—that was on 15th March—I have not been on duty, I have been receiving my pay, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. per day—I have had 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from Inspector Thompson, that is all—my lodging and refreshment are paid for me—I have not seen Thomas Farrell, the civilian, since the day I left London for Ireland—I only knew him two or three days—Niel Cunningham brought him to my hut, he came down for the purpose of taking me to London—I had never seen him before—I did not know before October that any of my comrades were tainted with Fenianism—I never hoard McCarthy speak about it till the night I went to the Spread Eagle—I had heard them talk about it, but not about deserting—I don't think McCarthy spoke to me about Fenianism previous to October—the letter from the prisoner was telling us to go to London, and meet a man in Shoreditch, I forget the number, and the materials would be received—McCarthy handed the letter to me—I showed it to Cunningham and Thomas Farrell, in the Canteen at Woolwich, and explained the nature of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you punished for deserting?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I was allowed to exchange into the Hussars—when I spoke to the prisoner about money to come up to London, he said he would see the committee about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-162" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-162" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD MCCARTHY</persName> </hi>. I am now a sapper in the Royal Engineers, stationed at Chatham—in October, 1865, I was in the Military Train, at Woolwich—I knew a person who went by the names of St Clair, Thompson, and Pilsworth—I first made his acquaintance about November, 1865, in a public-house in George Street, Woolwich—I was introduced to him by a Marine named Berry, as a friend of his—I knew the prisoner at Woolwich—I was introduced to him as being an influential man in the Fenian Brother
<lb/>hood—that was late in November or early in December, 1865—I took the Fenian oath—St. Clair administered it in the public-house in George Street—no one else was present—the oath was to assist in establishing a republic in Ireland and destroying the supremacy of the British Crown, and to take up arms at any time we were called upon to do so—I had taken the oath before St. Clair introduced me to the prisoner—the prisoner and I talked generally on Fenian topics—I was to see and get as many men as I could to join the organization, and bring them down at stated times to the different houses that they were in the habit of frequenting—both St. Clair and the prisoner asked me to do that—I consented—I remember being with the witness</p>
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<p>Mahony one night at the Duchess of Wellington, when the prisoner came there late, and he said he had been delayed at Aldershot—St. Clair and Spriggins were there, and a lot of military—the prisoner said that some men had sailed from America, and they were expected in the first of the new year for the breaking out in Ireland; first it was Christmas, and afterwards it was New Year's Day—he said I wan to get as many soldiers as possible to go to Ireland, because civilians would be more nuisance or hindrance; they would be wanted in England, and let the soldiers do the work in Ireland—St Clair said we were to go to London, and get our military clothes changed for civilians', and then proceed to Dublin—I know Thomas Farrell, a civilian—I have met him in Woolwich camp and in some of the public-houses—I have seen him with St Clair—this paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is my writing; it is "3, 914, Rd. McCarthy, No. 9 Troop, Military Train Camp"—I gave my address to the prisoner, and to St. Clair, and Farrell got it also; I think I gave this to Farrell—I gave one to the prisoner that he might write to me to know what conclusion they came to, what orders he had to give when we got to Dublin—I was to get so much money to treat a lot of soldiers to induce them to enlist, and also money if I went to Dublin—I was told so repeatedly by St. Clair—I don't remember that the prisoners said anything about money—I afterwards got a letter from either the prisoner, St Clair, or Farrell, I cant say which; I think it was Farrell—I could not get out that night, and I gave it to Mahony, and I think he destroyed it—the purport of it was to know whether the things he had contracted for were ready, meaning the men who were to go at such a time—I did not leave Woolwich—I never deserted—I remember the other men leaving, about 27th December, at 7 or 8 in the evening—I saw Farrell at Woolwich that day—I saw Mahony speaking to him and McGough and Farrell of the Artillery—Leonard was not with him when I saw him first, but he came there afterwards—I was on guard at the Royal Horse Infirmary when they left; I last saw them at the door of No, 5 hut—I did not see Mahony for better than twelve months afterwards—a few days after they had deserted I made a communication to one of the officers—after that time I took no part in the Fenian organization—I afterwards saw Thomas Tamil at the Thames Police Court, in January, 1866, with a man named Butler—they were both convicted there of obtaining soldiers to desert—I gave evidence—that was the same Thomas Farrell I have spoken of.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What rank have you now?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am a sapper—I have the mark on my arm because the month before last I was up to past an examination for lance corporal; I don't know yet whether I am read out or not—the mark is not authorized yet; I know I did all that was required of me—I have not worn it before my officers; I put it on myself—I had been a Fenian something better than a month before I met the prisoner—when I enlisted I took an oath before a Justice of the Peace—I also took the Fenian oath—one is rather opposed to the other—I had not a strong desire to do good to Ireland when I took the Fenian oath; I did not like soldiering, and I wanted to get some money to go away—I like it better now—I told my comrades there was such a thing as Fenianism, and that I was down at Woolwich with some of the men connected with it; Mahony was one I told, McGough was another—I did not desert—I burnt some letters of Mahony's, at his request, after he left—one of the men told the officer—I was asked if I knew whether the men had deserted, and then I told, perhaps to avoid punishment—I knew Spriggins; he was a young looking man, about 5 feet 7 inches—he did not wear a beard when I knew him—Fairell</p>
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<p>bad a sort of brown beard—the letter I got from Farrell came by post—I read it, and gave it to Mahony—I believe this address is the one I gave to Farrell—I may have said at Bow Street it was the one I gave to the prisoner—I have a doubt about it—I know I gave three—I can't say whether the prisoner was a military man or not—I heard him speak about arms, and people coming from America.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When was it you burnt the letter?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On 28th December, I think, the day after Mahony left—I put this stripe on because I had passed my examination correctly—I had it in my possession—I have worn this coat for the last month with the stripe on it—my superiors have not seen me—I have worn it in London—I bought the lace ready to put on—if I was entitled to wear it, it would be served out to me—I have been rather hasty in assuming it—I think this is the paper I gave Farrell, because it was found upon him—I never intended to go to Ireland—I was urged to go on 27th December.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-163" type="surname" value="FARREL"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-163" type="given" value="MICHAEL"/>MICHAEL FARREL</persName> </hi>. I am a gunner in the 7th battery Royal Artillery—in the end of 1866 I was in the 5th Brigade, stationed at Woolwich—Niel Cunningham was in the same brigade—I know the prisoner—I first saw him in a public-house, I think the Nile, across Market Hill, Woolwich, between October and the end of December: I can't say the exact time—I was intro
<lb/>duced to him by Cunningham—there were four or five civilians present, and the house was full of soldiers—I know Thomas Farrell, the civilian; he was not present—the prisoner shook hands with me, and asked Cunningham was I right—he said, "Yes"—we went inside, and all got drinking with these civilians, Muggins, Scrubbing, and Sprigging; but those were only nicknames which they used to go by: one of them was called Thompson—I saw them in several public-houses afterwards—there was supposed to be a raffle at these houses, but there was none: it was to account for the number of men congregating there—Thompson was there the night I was introduced to the prisoner—he was paying for drink, and talking to the soldiers all through the room, and going out and coming in—I did not see the fprisoner after that till I came away from Woolwich—that was the first time I saw him—on the night of 27th December I saw Thomas Farrell, the civilian, in company with Cunningham outside the canteen, door in the barracks; that was the first time I had seen him—Cunningham introduced me to him—he said, "Here is Farrell, he will pay for plenty of drink"—he had often told me about Farrell before—we went into the canteen, and had some drink—I then went down the buttery range to my quarters—Cunningham and Farrell went with me—my wife was at my quarters—she saw Farrell—I told her to go out for fear she should want to know where 1 was going—they sent me for two men belonging to the depot brigade, Macnamara and Foley—I was told they were on picket—I found them, and they came with me—they were in uniform—we joined Farrell and Cunningham—going through the parade they told me to run and fetch Connolly, an Irishman belonging to my brigade—I went and got him—he joined us in the barrack
<lb/>tavern—there were a great many other soldiers there—I went up to London by train from Charlton that night along with Farrell—there were about seven of us, all in uniform: there might be more—there were Conolly, Cunningham, and me, Foley, Macnamara, Sullivan, McGough, Leonard, and Edward Farrell of the Horse Artillery—I can't say whether Mahony was with us—Farrell, the civilian, paid fur our tickets at Charlton—we came to London Bridge—I can't say whether anyone met us at the station—we</p>
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<p>went to Vine Court, Whitechapel: I walked there; Farrell went with me and the other soldiers—we Went to Michael Butler's house—I did not go into a public-house on the road—there was plenty of drink on the table at Butler's, and we got drinking away at it—I saw some of the soldiers who went there with me in uniform, come down in Civilians' clothes—Farrell told me to go and get a suit, and I went up stairs with Butler—there was a lot of clothes on the floor, and I put on a suit—I was wearing regimental boots at that time: they were numbered 772—I left them there, and put on another pair—after changing my clothes I came down stairs, and got drinking again—I slept on the floor there that night, or on a chair—next morning, at 5 o'clock, we all went away to Boston Square—I did not see the prisoner before we started—I, McGough, and Foley got lost, and went back to the house, intending to get our own clothes, and go back to Wool
<lb/>wich; but when we got there bottled were put on the table, and we got drinking again all day—we drank all day and some nights, and then some more soldiers came and joined us—next morning we started in cabs'to the station: Mahony, McGouglr, Sullrvan, and Farrell—I don't know what became of Foley: he slipped away somehow; and did not join us for about a week after in Dublin—when we got to the station at Euston Square, the prisoner was there, and Farrell, the civilian, getting tickets—I said to the prisoner, "Look sharp, Peter, and get us my ticket"—he had a lot of bank-notes in his hand, and he said there was a difficulty in getting change—Farrell gave me my ticket—we then went by tram to Horyhead, and then by boat to Dublin—we went to a public-house at Dublin with Thompson, or St. Clair and Devoy, who belonged to a military circle or something" in Dublin—he never been over here that I know of—I saw in Dublin the soldiers who had gone by the train the previous day—I saw the prisoner in Dublin in January, after breakfast one morning; seven the eight of us were then lodging at Mrs. Flynn's, in High Street—I saw the prisoner go by the door, and said, "Halloa, Peter, come in; how does things look?"—he said "First rate; there is an expedition about leaving America"—I said "It was pretty mess you made with my boots, to let them be found"—he said they did not know they were there under the heap of things in the corner—I had heard about the boots being found, from Muggins, one of the men, who showed it to me one morning, in the paper—I only saw the prisoner once more in Dublin—I went along with Dr. Regan, belonging to the Fenians, to get his pay, at a public-house, and I saw the prisoner there—I remarked in Dublin until 5th February, 1866—we got pay while we were there; Johnny Devoy paid us—I went for the once or twice at the first going off, to give to the other men; they did not know where to go—I did not see the civilian, Thomas Farrell, there before I left—I told the men that deserted along with me that I was coming back, and I got sixpence each from them, to bring me back to England—I went to Liverpool, and walked from there to Woolwich—I hid a few coppers at starting, and I sold a pair of stockings, and a policeman gave me sixpence—I tramped up—I ate very little—I got to Woolwich on 15th February—I went to see ray wife that night, but she did not hear me knocking—I went and took a lodging in Woolwich, and next morning I went to my wife—I stopped with her till night, and then gave myself up on the night of the 16th—I was put in the guard room—I was afterwards tried for desertion, and sentenced to fifty-six days—I came out of prison in June, and went the next day to the Woolwich Police Court—I there saw Thomas Farrell, the</p>
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<p>civilian, and Michael Butler, and gave evidence—I saw my boots there, that I had left behind at Butler's; they were delivered up to me, and I wore them out—I know Corydon, by just seeing his face somewhere, I don't know where—I have been in the Army ever since I gave myself up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What time of night was it when you left Woolwich?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About 8—I had been drinking brandy, and porter, and ale, before I left—I think I saw Mahony that night, but I can't say—I might have had a glass of brandy, three glasses of ale, and about half a dozen glasses of porter before I left Woolwich—I had nothing at London Bridge—I went straight from there to Butler's house, in Vine Court, with Farrell and the others—Butler's is a private house—there were a few young women there, friends of Butler's—we had plenty to drink there; there were decanters full of whis
<lb/>key on the table—I drank till I lay down, or fell down—we were all enjoying ourselves—I was married in February 1862—my wife is not an Irishwoman—I had three brothers; two are dead since I went away—I passed Thomas Farrell off as my brother before my wife—I did not take the Fenian oath—I should not have deserted, but for the drink, and getting along with them, and hearing their talk, and doing as the others did—when I got to Ireland, and saw what I had done, I made my way back, and suffered for my desertion—I was in Dublin a month and five or six days; I was drinking all I could get hold of all that time—I used to get money from Col Kelly's gang; he was the military organizer in Dublin—Dr. Regan told me he was the doctor to the Fenian organization, and I reported myself sick to him—Mahony was at Mrs. Flynn's the morning the prisoner came in,—I only saw the prisoner four times altogether—Spriggins is a good-looking young man, about 5ft. 9in. or 5ft. 10in.—Farrell was much the same stamp as the prisoner, a little taller; he had a full beard, something like the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-164" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-164" type="surname" value="FARRELL"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-164" type="given" value="JOHANNA MARGARET"/>JOHANNA MARGARET FARRELL</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—on the evening of 27th December, 1865, he was with me in his quarters at Woolwich—I last saw him about 8 o'clock—a man named Cunningham was with him and a civilian named Thomas Farrell—I had not seen him before, my husband passed him off to me as his brother—they left together, I did not know he was going away—he did not come back till February—I thought it was the 14th, but my husband says it was the 16th; he came early in the morning to my quarters in civilian's clothes—I after
<lb/>wards saw Thomas Farrell at the Thames Police Station, in January, before my husband had come home—I gave evidence there and afterwards at the Woolwich Police Court in June, 1866—I saw a pair of boots there with my husband's No. on them, 772, I knew them to be his.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is there anything peculiar in the shape of your husband's foot?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, but I know it; and I knew his boots—we have not spoken together on the subject of these trials.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-165" type="surname" value="CORYDON"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-165" type="given" value="JOHN JOSEPH"/>JOHN JOSEPH CORYDON</persName> </hi>. I was a member of the Fenian Brotherhood—I joined it in 1862, its object was to overthrow the Queen's government in Ireland and to establish an Irish republic in its stead—I was acquainted with all the chief members of that organization—I was in Dublin in January, 1866—I saw the prisoner there, I had not seen him before, I saw him in company of several American Fenian officers, Captain Deasy, Captain Burke, Captain Dohany and other deserters from the Army—I have been present when he was with those persons; the conversation was about Fenian matters, about the rising that was expected to take place in the early part of the year—it was intended to take place in March, we had</p>
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<p>been disappointed in not having it take place in 1865—I saw the prisoner in Dublin up to the latter part of February, 1866—the earliest time I saw him was about 10th or 11th January—I saw him there several times—I have seen the two witnesses, Mahony and Michael Farrell, in his company in Dublin, Mahony several times, the other not so often, only twice—Mahony I saw once a week and perhaps, oftener, but I don't recollect seeing Farrell with him more than twice, and on one of those occasions I saw the prisoner pay money to these deserters; there were upwards of thirty—the money was given to him by the paymaster of the Fenians for the purpose of keep
<lb/>ing these men there until the rising should take place.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When did you join the Fenian organization?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In 1862—I was twenty-six years of age—I was in the Federal Army before that, since 1861—before that I was a clerk at New York for two years, in the Street Commissioners' Department—I left because I took a notion to go into the Army, I wanted to see life—before that I was a clerk in the City of Washington to a Mr. Tyson, who kept a hardware and grocer's store, I was very young then—I went to school at Washington—I was with him four years—I left because I thought it would suit me better to go to New York—I went to America when I was twelve years of age—I went out with an uncle, but I paid my own way there—I was a member of the Fenian organization from 1862 till I gave information to the Government—I came over here in August, 1865—I went first to Liverpool—I carried dispatches from the heads of the Fenian movement in America—I was a prominent man, I was held very high in the estimation of John Mahony, a very honest man who was them the head in America, and afterwards Stephens—I went from Liverpool to Dublin—I think tie first trial at which I gave evidence for the Crown was that of Colonel Tom Burke and Doran, about a year ago—I gave information to the Crown and became a public witness in April or May, 1867—I suppose that is a position I still occupy—I did not receive any reward from the Government after giving evidence on that trial—I received nothing—I received money from the Government previous to the trial, for my expenses incurred in hunting up Fenians—I could not say how much, perhaps 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., not 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not live at the rate of 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year, or 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a day—I suppose I have given evidence on about sixty or seventy trials—I shall not tell you where I am living now; I don't wish to tell every Fenian in Ireland and England where I live, I should not live very long if I did—I received protection in Ireland where I was known; I don't require it here, I can protect myself—I have not been in Paris—I joined the Fenian organization because I thought then that I was doing what was right to Ireland—I left it because I found they were a pack of swindlers—they swindled me of my money and time since 1865—I left them in 1866, and wrote a letter to an official of the Government—I don't know how much I am to get from the Government for my service—I have saved Ireland and this country a good deal—I will take all I can get—I have not been offered 20,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have been offered no money—I never heard that I was to get 20,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for giving evidence during the whole of the Fenian trials—I was never offered a penny—my ambition is to break up the Fenian organization—I have not been offered an annuity of 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., or a lump sum of 20,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I first saw the prisoner in Dublin, about 10th or 12th January, 1866—I had then been about two or throe days there from America—I saw him with Timothy Deasy and Tom Burke, and these deserters—Mahony was one—I saw him with John Deasy, who has been convicted,</p>
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<p>and others who have gone away, but they may be caught yet—I was not acquainted with Farrell, not to speak to him—I saw the prisoner pay money to the deserters—I don't know their names, there were so many of them—I should know them if I were to see them—some American officers were present on one occasion when he paid them, Deasy, Burke, and others—I will he a witness against us many more Fenians as I can get hold of—I think I am doing more for my country now than if I had remained a Fenian.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Since you have given information to the Government, have you been examined upon nearly all the principal Fenian trials?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Every one, I think—I have had my maintenance and my expenses for attend
<lb/>ing at different places—it makes not the least difference to me whether the persons are acquitted or convicted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-166" type="surname" value="HOLLOWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-166" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HOLLOWAY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector H</hi>). In December, 1865, I was at the station-house when Thomas Farrell and Michael Butler were brought there—I saw Farrell searched, and this paper found on him—I have had it ever since—those two pen-sons were afterwards taken to the Thames Police Court on a charge made against them, and there convicted—the charge was inducing soldiers to desert—they were sentenced to six months' imprison
<lb/>ment—I produce various military accoutrements, amongst others a pair of military boots, which were given to me by Sergeant Dunaway, in December, 1865—some of them belong to the Army and some to the Volunteers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-167" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-167" type="surname" value="DUNAWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-167" type="given" value="PORTER WILLIAM"/>PORTER WILLIAM DUNAWAY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant H</hi>). On 30th December, 1865, I took Michael Butler in custody at a house in Vine Court, White chapel—he was charged, with a man named Farrell, with inciting soldiers to desert—I searched the house, and among other things found a pair of mili
<lb/>tary boots, with a number on them—they were produced at the Thames Police Court, in 1866, and at the Woolwich Police Court, in June and July, 1866—they were shown to Michael Farrell and his wife—they were given up to Sergeant-Major Thompson.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-168" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-168" type="surname" value="THOMPSON"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-168" type="given" value="LEONARD"/>LEONARD THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. In December, 1865, I was a Sergeant-Major in the Royal Artillery—I knew Farrell, Niel Cunningham, and Connolly, in the 5th brigade—those three men deserted on the evening of 29th December at roll call—Cunningham has never come back—Connolly gave himself up in Wales, some time in 1866; he has gone to India—Farrell gave himself up in February—a pair of boots was given up to me at the Woolwich Police Court—they belonged to Michael Farrell, and were marked with his number, 762.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long was Farrell in the guard-room before his trial?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Five or six weeks; he was tried about the middle of April.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-169" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-169" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-169" type="surname" value="LAMBERT"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-169" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAMBERT</persName> </hi>. I am a sergeant in the Military Train—at the end of 1865 I was stationed at Woolwich—a man named William Leonard was in the same corps; he deserted on 27th December, 1865—1 next saw him when he was on trial by Court Martial for desertion—I was a witness against him—he was convicted and sentenced.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-170" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-170" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-170" type="surname" value="CUTLER"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-170" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CUTLER</persName> </hi>. I am troop sergeant-major in the Military Train at Alder
<lb/>shot—in 1865 I was stationed at Woolwich—I knew a private McGough; he deserted on 27th December—I had seen him that day in Woolwich, in uniform—he has never joined the regiment since—I saw him in custody in Woolwich, in 1866, in plain clothes—he is now in India.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-171" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-171" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-171" type="surname" value="CAMPBELL"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-171" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY CAMPBELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant A</hi>). I know Thomas Farrell and Michael Butler, and the prisoner—I have seen them together several times, in August, September, and October, in 1865, in White chapel and</p>
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<p>Mile End—I have seen them conversing together, and they appeared to be companions.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long have you been in the police force?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> 23 years—I know that inquiries were made for Mahony—I am hot aware that many persons have seen him and failed to identify him; some have—they were Massey and other informers, and Stocks, a publican.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18680504-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18680504-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-172" type="surname" value="THOMPSON"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-name-172" type="given" value="JAMES JACOB"/>JAMES JACOB THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am an inspector of the detective police—I took the prisoner on the morning of 14th March, at a carpenter's shop in Lawrence Poultney Lane, City—he was at work there; he is a carpenter—when I entered the shop, his master came forward; I asked him if he had a man named McGann in his employ—he said he had not—I pointed to the prisoner, and asked the name of that man—he said, "Morgan"—I said to the prisoner, "What is your name?"—he said, "Morgan"—I asked him his Christian name—ha said, "Peter"—I told him I was an inspector of police, and had received orders to take him into custody, as I had reason to believe his name was Peter Mohan—he wanted to know whether I had a warrant—I told him I had no warrant, but I had received, an order to take him, from the Commissioner of Police, on a charge of treason-felony—I directed the sergeant who accompanied me to take hold of him—he said, "You need not hold me; I am perfectly innocent."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When you took him to the station, was he searched?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes a pocket book, a purse, a knife, and a bullet were found on him—I asked him for his address, he did not give it me—I said "It will look odd if you refuse to give any address; it may look as if you had something to conceal"—he did not give as a reason, that his wife was unwell—I told him that if he wished to communicate with any of his friends I would send any
<lb/>where to them; that was two or three hours after he had refused his address—I thought that he might unguardedly make his address known—he wrote a letter in the evening—I received certain directions about it—it had not his address on it, but the address of a friend in the Borough Road—the letter was not sent—I saw him again at Bow Street, on Monday, and he then gave me his address—I went there, there was nothing in the house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-445-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18680504-445-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, May</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Baron Channel</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">TIMOTHY KEEFE</hi> (16)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18680504-446-offence-1 t18680504-name-174"/>Edward White</persName> with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Protection; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-175" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD WHITE</persName> </hi>. I live at 2, Hair brain Court, Blue Anchor Yard, White chapel—on 13th February, about 11 or 11.30 I was in the court and saw the prisoner standing by his own door—he asked me to go up-stairs for a minute—I went up with him and he said "Stand still a minute"—he went towards a box and lifted up the cover—I did not see him, take anything out; but he went from the box to the bed—he stood by the bed about five minutes, his back towards me, and lifted up the clothes with his hand behind his back—he then turned towards me, put her hand behind him, and came towards me quickly and shot me in the breast—I could not see what with—he then ran up and caught hold of me, stopped the blood, and, seemed very sorry—I asked him to let me go to my mother's, and he let me</p>
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<p>go down stairs—my mother took me to the hospital—I had been good friends with him, playing together.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long had you known him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A good bit—I had been in the habit of playing with him on other days, but had never seen the pistol before—after he h id done it he flung it on to the bed, and would not let me go down stairs till he found me screaming—we used to have angry words together—I used to see him every day before that—I lived right opposite him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-176" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am the mother of the last witness—on 13th February, I heard a pistol—I heard him screaming—I found him wounded and took him to the London Hospital.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-177" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BURGETT</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon, at the London Hospital—the boy was brought there on 13th February, with a wound in the upper part of his chest to the left of the sternum, and the cartilage of the first rib was fractured—I could pass my finger in sufficiently to feel the fracture, but was not justified in probing to search for the ball—it was such a wound as would be caused by a pistol—I am not certain whether the ball penetrated the lungs, but there is reason to believe it has—he is an unhealthy boy—he was ill for some time from the effects of the wound, and is so still—the bullet if still in him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-178" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN NEWMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman H R</hi> 20). On 20th February, I went to the prisoner's house—he was not there, but he was brought to the station by hit father on 20th April—I took him to the hospital next morning and the boy identified him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate</hi>.—I was chopping wood, and I went up stairs to get some half-pence out of my brother's box to buy some cat's meat. I saw no half-pence, but 1 saw a pistol. I called him up, showed it to him, and said, "Aint this a fine one." I said it was a fine one. Wethrowed were playing with it together, and somehow or other it went off. I put it back in the box, and went to him. He would not let me look at him, and went down stairs. I did not know the pistol was loaded. It belonged to my brother.</p>
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<interp inst="t18680504-446-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>447.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-181" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HUNT</persName> </hi>. I lived at 7, Star Place, North End, Fulham, but removed last week—I am a labouer—on Saturday evening, 28th March, between 10 and 11, I was in the Chipperton beer-shop, North Road—I saw the prisoner come in, followed by a gentleman—the gentleman turned round and said, "What do you follow me for, my good man; why don't you go about your own business?"—I could not hear the reply—the prisoner struck the gentleman on the top of the head with his closed hand, and he fell on his back—the prisoner then picked him up and sat him against the door—he did not remain in that position long—he rolled round and went into the yard through the doorway, but he fell down the steps on to the bricks which the yard is paved with—I cannot say whether he was stunned, but it was a heavy blow that knocked him down—after he fell down the steps the prisoner caught hold of him by the legs, and dragged him out of the yard into the road—the prisoner had a horse and cart at the door—I caught hold of the horse's head and pulled it round—my wife and sister screamed, and I ran out and left the man on the path—I pulled him out of the road</p>
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<p>on to the path, seeing he was in danger—he was very drunk, and never uttered a word—I do not think he could speak—I afterwards saw him at the West London Hospital, dead.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did not he push me when he came in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not see him—I did not hear you say anything about not giving him a ride—you dragged him by the legs and left his legs lying across the road—he fell down two or three steps—you did not carry him by the legs and arms; you dragged him out—I do not know what you took him out for—your wife was in the cart.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When he turned the cart round, did he turn it towards the gentleman, or away from him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Towards the gentleman, or I should not have lifted him out of the way—it may have been that he turned the cart round to go back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is there a wall immediately before the house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, with railings on the top of it—he dragged the gentleman from inside that wall—I believe the prisoner was drunk—he got halfway into the room—there can be no mistake about it, because I saw him reel and make a little bit of a stumble.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18680504-name-182" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA HUNT</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—on 28th March last, I was at the Chipperton beer-house, and saw the prisoner there, and a gentle
<lb/>man, who turns out to be Mr. Bullock—they were standing against the door, and I saw the prisoner chuck the gentleman out of Mr. Chipperton's, and saw him fall out of the doorway with his head against the shutters, which were up—I did not see him rise again, and he never spoke—my husband was in the house—the prisoner got some beer and threw some of it into the gentleman's face, and said, "Take that, you sod! "—he gave the remainder of the beer to his wife in the cart outside, and said to her, "I will run over him and kill him"—he then took hold of the gentleman's legs, and dragged him out into the road—I ran in to tell Mr. Chipperton he was going to kill him, and I saw no more—I afterwards saw the some gentleman dead at the hospital—after he was drugged out from the path to the road he was taken back again—Mr. Chipperton then put up his shutters.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did not I drag him out by the arms?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi