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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>GABRIEL, MAYOR.</p>
<p>FIRST SESSION, HELD NOVEMBER 19TH, 1866.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>ALEXANDER BUCKLER,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
<p>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY, ESQ.,</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>VOL. LXV.</p>
<p>SESSION I TO VI.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>BUTTERWORTHS, 7, FLEET STREET,</p>
<p>Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, November 19th 1866, and following days,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON.</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GABRIEL, MAYOR. FIRST SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that the prisoners have been previously in custody</hi>
<hi rend="italic">two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody</hi>
<hi rend="italic">an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, November</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., of
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<p>6.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD FRANKLIN</hi> (18)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18661119-6-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-6-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, to feloniously forging and uttering a request for the delivery of three shawls, with intent to defraud.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-6-18661119 t18661119-6-punishment-6"/>Confined Nine Months</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18661119-6-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-6-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty:See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>7.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD SMITH</hi> (29)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18661119-7-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-7-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, to stealing a watch of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-7-offence-1 t18661119-name-31"/>Ebenezer. Terry Johnson</persName> from the person of
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-32" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-32" type="surname" value="JOHNSON"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-7-offence-1 t18661119-name-32"/>Emma Johnson</persName>, having been before convicted.—**</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18661119-7-punishment-7" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-7-18661119 t18661119-7-punishment-7"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18661119-8" type="date" value="18661119"/>
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<p>8.
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<interp inst="def1-8-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH MORRIS</hi> (38)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-8-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-8-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-8-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/>, to two indictments for embezzling sums of money of Samuel Grocutt and others, his masters.
<hi rend="italic">The Prosecutor stated the prisoner's deficiencies amounted to</hi> 171
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,and that a similar offence had been overlooked two years ago</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18661119-8-punishment-8" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-8-punishment-8" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-8-18661119 t18661119-8-punishment-8"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18661119-8-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-8-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty:See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>9.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES BUNYARD</hi> (42)</persName> and
<persName id="def2-9-18661119" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-9-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-9-18661119" type="age" value="37"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES COULARD</hi> (37)</persName> were indicted for
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<interp inst="t18661119-9-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/> unlawfully conspiring to defraud
<persName id="t18661119-name-36" type="victimName">
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-9-offence-1 t18661119-name-36"/>Frederick Thomas</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<persName id="t18661119-name-37" type="judiciaryName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-37" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-37" type="given" value="MONTAGU"/>MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the Prosecution, offered no evidence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-9-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>10.
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<interp inst="def1-10-18661119" type="age" value="40"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS LANE</hi> (40)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-10-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-10-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-10-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/> , Feloniously forging and uttering an order for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-39" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-39" type="surname" value="DEFRIES"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-39" type="given" value="MOSS"/>MOSS DEFRIES</persName> </hi>. I am a chandelier manufacturer, carrying on business with my brothers in Commercial Street, Whitechapel—the prisoner was in our employment—it was his duty to keep the bought ledger, to receive the invoices from the cutters, to examine those invoices with the book in; which the goods were entered when received, to see that they corresponded; he would then bring me the ledger and the cutters' invoices—I should then see that the entry in the ledger corresponded with the invoices; he would also present me the order for payment, and if it corresponded with the entry in the ledger I put my initials across it; the order would then be presented to the pretty cashier, who would pay it—on 31st August the prisoner brought me this order (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—he also showed me this cutters' ledger—at the time the prisoner brought me the order it was for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., that was written in words and in figures—the letters "teen" have since been added, and the figure "I" has been prefixed to the 7.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe you prosecuted the prisoner last session?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> We did, upon two indictments—the facts were not of the same nature as in this case, he was acquitted—I was examined as a witness—this order is in the prisoner's writing, and the ledger also—the 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the column is his writing—I believe the invoice has been lost—it would be handed to the prisoner by the cutter in the course of business—it would be copied into the book—I cannot tell whether the order would be copied from the invoice or the book—it would be from one or the other—Powell has been working for us a good many years—after crossing the order I gave it back to the prisoner—there was a junior clerk named Norden in the office with the prisoner—we have not discharged any clerks lately—we have discharged one man named Lazarus for selling goods on his own account when he was under an agreement for a certain number of years—no evidence as to this case was given before the Magistrate—we employ a great number of hands, but only about ten principal cutters, and they employ others under them, who work only for us—in cash between 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 1000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would pass through the prisoner's hands in a year—there are great numbers of crossed cheques and cheques payable to order—about 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week would be paid out on orders of this kind—we have employed a professional accountant to go through our books—he has been nearly two years doing that—this book remains in the prisoner's office—it would not be accessible to all the clerks—we could never get access to it—he almost always had it locked in his desk—I have asked Norden, the junior clerk, for it, and it has been locked in the prisoner's desk—whenever I have asked the prisoner himself for it he has always shown it to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> In whose custody would the invoice be?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In the prisoner's—Lazarus was one of the prisoner's bail.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you not on the Monday following this go and take away a number of invoices from the prisoner's office?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I asked Norden for some invoices, and this amongst others, and he could not find it—I asked for the previous week's invoices, and they gave them to me, but this was not amongst them—I think they were given to me by Norden—I don't know how many there were—I really cannot tell whether it was Norden or the prisoner that gave them to me, they were sitting</p>
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<p>next to each other—there were not above than ten or twelve—I don't think Lazarus was the prisoner's original bail, but when the case was post
<lb/>poned from last session.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-40" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-40" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN POWELL</persName> </hi>. I am a glasscutter—I have been in the habit of doing work for Messrs. Defries—on 17th August I did some work for them amounting to 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and the week after some more amounting to 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., together 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I generally keep a pocket-book in which I put down the work I do—I made an entry of this work perhaps a day previous to sending it in, or perhaps the next day; this is it—it is "one plate", 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., sent in either on 16th or 17th—I suppose it must have been the 17th, the date is not here, but I never take in work except on Thursday or Friday—on 31st August I went to Messrs. Defries for my money—I sent in a bill by my boy, and I received 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from the prisoner on the Friday following the 31st—this is my signature to this book—I don't believe the figures were 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. when I signed it—this "By cash, 27
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.," is my writing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did the prisoner himself pay you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I don't recollect in what coin, I believe it was in silver, I think there was 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in silver in paper—I was first spoken to about this about ten or four
<lb/>teen days after—I swear that this 27
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. is my writing—I wrote it at the time—I invariably enter the amount in the book when I receive the money, I suppose it is a habit I have—I received some money on 17th August, I see I have not put down the amount there—I think that is the only instance where I have not—I generally go there in the evening—I don't recollect having sometimes had too much to drink, I suppose I am like all the rest, we all have a little too much at times—I was perfectly sober when I received this 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and also the week before—I have been very steady lately.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-41" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-41" type="given" value="EMANUEL"/>EMANUEL NORDEN</persName> </hi>. I was a clerk in Messrs. Defries' employment at the time the prisoner was there—he kept the cutters' ledger—he some-times kept it in a drawer and sometimes in a safe—the drawer was in his own desk—I never made any entries in the book—I have, by Mr. Defries' direction, searched for Powell's invoice of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I have not been able to find it—I know the prisoner's writing—I have seen him write—the letters "teen" at the end of the "seven" resemble his writing—I believeit to be his.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you remember Mr. Defries coming to the office one morning and asking for a number of invoices?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I handed them to him by the prisoner's direction; there were about a dozen—I received the invoices as they came in, and they were entered directly by the prisoner in the ledger—if he is not there at the time we put them on a file, they may remain there a few hours before they are entered, but they are always settled the same day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-42" type="surname" value="CANTER"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-42" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP CANTER</persName> </hi>. I was petty cashier in Mr. Defries' employment—this order was delivered to me by the prisoner, and I paid him 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. upon it, with other sums.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you left the employment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, to better myself—it was my duty to pay the cutters, but I handed the money to the prisoner to pay for me—I gave him 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. altogether—other cutters were paid by cheque by the chief cashier, but no others by Cash that I know of—I handed the prisoner the orders, not the invoices—there were eight orders—I have seen the cutters' ledger on the prisoner's desk when I have gone into his office—I never looked into it—he had paid the</p>
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<p>cutters for me several times—I requested him to do so—I left to go and assist my father, and my brother succeeded me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say you have seen the cutters' ledger lying on the prisoner's desk, have you seen it there when he has not been there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot say, I never noticed, I have seldom been there except when he has been in the office.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-43" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-43" type="given" value="MOSS"/>MOSS DEFRIES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). The prisoner left our employment between one and two o'clock on the Friday previous to his being taken into custody—he left without notice—we had a detective officer after him for two or three days.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you not know that he had been telegraphed for?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not—I saw a telegram at the police-station, but what it was about I don't know; it was taken from his pocket, I did not read it—he had been between two and three years in our service—he has not sat up whole nights attending to our business—at stock-taking he has worked a little later than usual; that is only once a year, and lasts about a week—I raised his salary from 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against the prisoner, upon which no evidence was offered</hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>11.
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<persName id="t18661119-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-46" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-46" type="surname" value="SCOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-46" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE SCOTT</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Charles Scott, who keeps the Old Red Cross public-house, in Upper East Smithfield—on 22nd October the prisoner took a room at our house, she said she should want it for three weeks, or perhaps a month, she only remained one night—I examined the room when she had gone, and missed two blankets off the bed, and two pair of slippers, a box was broken open and several articles taken from it, but I cannot say what; the box had been left by a gentleman for a bad debt, and I did not know what it contained—this is one of the pair of slippers; the other pair has not been found, nor the blankets—I did not see the prisoner leave—she represented herself as the wife of the chief mate of a Belgian vessel, and ordered dinner for herself and husband on the Tuesday, but we did not see her again till she was in custody on the Wednesday night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-47" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CURTIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). In consequence of information I went to No. 119, Minories, and there found the prisoner—I told her she would be charged with stealing two blankets, the property of Mr. Scott, of the Old Red Cross public-house, Upper East Smithfield—she made no answer—as I was standing in the room I saw her take something from the foot of the bed and place it underneath the carpet, and I pulled out these slippers—I said, "Where did you get these from?" she made no answer—Mrs. Scott, who was in the room at the time, said, "These are my slippers"—I then said to the prisoner, "You will be further charged with stealing the slippers"—she made no remark.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I not say I had put them in my bag by mistake?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not then, you did before the Magistrate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. As I found the room, so I left it. The slippers I picked up and put in my bag by mistake in my hurry; the blankets I know nothing of. The landlady's niece saw me leave, and went downstairs with me, and she could clear me if she was here. I could not put the blankets in my little bag. I should have gone back again, but the house was so noisy</p>
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<p>I thought it was not a fit place for me; there were many lodgers in the house. I left some dirty linen of my own in the room.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">of stealing the slippers.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY ANN DAVIS</hi> (30)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-12-offence-1 t18661119-name-49"/>Robert Nisbit</persName>, and stealing 1
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., his money.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-50" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-50" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT NISBIT</persName> </hi>. I am a traveller, and live at No. 19, Nicol Square—on 20th October, about half-past twelve in the morning, I was going along St. John Street—at the corner of Compton Street I passed a woman and a man—the prisoner is the woman, I am positive—there was a bright light from the public-house, so that you could see to pick up pins in the street—I did not speak to them nor they to me—as soon as I had passed about a yard and a half my hat was knocked off, and I received a blow on the side of the head, I believe from the man, but I did not see—I could not see a soul in the street besides those two—the blow was a very severe one—I was knocked down, and I remember nothing afterwards till I recovered my senses in the Royal Free Hospital—I had 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 32
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in my pockets that night, when I got to the hospital it was gone, except a few coppers.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-51" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FIELD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 251). About a quarter to two on the morning of the 20th October I was in St. John Street—I saw the prisoner there in company with a man—the prisoner was kneeling down by the prosecutor's side, and the man was standing up at the prisoner's feet—when I got within about fifteen yards of them she got up and ran away, I ran after her, caught her, and brought her back—I did not lose sight of her—the prosecutor was taken to the hospital by another constable—he was insensible—he had been drinking.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-52" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT NISBIT</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. I had had a few glasses of brandy and water, but I knew what I was about—I considered myself perfectly sober and capable of doing any business and walking straight.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE JONES</hi> (21)</persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LILLEY</hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-54" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-54" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-54" type="surname" value="COOK"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-54" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET COOK</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 3, Pitman Street, York Road, City Road—on the 2nd October some goods were delivered at my house by the prisoner, from Messrs. Phillips and Co., they came to 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I paid him and saw him sign this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-55" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-55" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-55" type="given" value="MARIA"/>MARIA CROOKS</persName> </hi>. I am servant to Mr. Galliford, of No. 16, Salisbury Street, Strand—on the 16th October the prisoner delivered some goods—I paid him 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and saw him sign this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-56" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-56" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA BANKS</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 2, Wenlock Street, City Road—I deal with Phillips and Co.—on the 27th October the prisoner delivered some goods to me—I paid him 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and he signed this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BURGE</hi>. I am foreman to Martha Phillips and another—the prisoner was in their service as porter—it was his duty to deliver goods and receive money, and pay it to me the following day—he did not account to me for these three sums—I called the names over to him the morning after the delivery of the goods, and he said on one occasion that Mrs. Galliford was out, and on another that he had lost the bill—I asked if they had paid, and he said no—when he was given into custody he said he had made use of some of the moneys and had lost the other.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he say what he had lost?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, the 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and the 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and the other he had made use of because he</p>
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<p>had no money, and he intended to have the amount deducted from his wages—he had been about six weeks in the service, before that he had been employed at another house for the same firm.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-57" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-57" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LAXTON</persName> </hi>. I am in the prosecutor's service—when the prisoner was given into custody I called his attention to these receipts and asked if they were in his handwriting—he said, "Yes"—I said, "What have you done with the moneys? have you paid them in?"—he said, "No"—I said, "What have you done with them?"—he said, "Lost them"—I asked him about the 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., he said he had used the money in that case, that he was very sorry he had done so, and he deserved to go to prison, but he begged and prayed that I would not send him, and he was for about twenty minutes clinging to me in a very excited state, asking me not to send him to prison—a constable was there and he was given into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi>. Before the constable came did he not tell you he had lost the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He did—he did not ask me to deduct the amount from his wages—he said it was his intention to have got the money from his father—the prisoner was about eight years in the prosecutor's employ before this, he was then away twelve months, and I then re
<lb/>engaged him.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-58" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMART</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>). The prisoner was given into my custody on the 1st November—he said he had received the 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and the 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and that money he had lost, he also said he had received several other sums and had applied it to his own use.</p>
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<p>14.
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., his money.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-61" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-61" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CARR</persName> </hi>. I am a groom, and live at No. 90, Fetter Lane—on the 28th October, about half-past one in the morning, I was in Gray's Inn Lane, going home from Kentish Town—as I passed by Fox Court the prisoner and two other men were on the pavement—I was in the act of passing them when the prisoner struck me a violent blow in my chest, which knocked me down; it did not knock me exactly on the ground, but against a public-house—before I could fall another man caught me round the neck—the prisoner put his left hand round my neck, and one of the others put his hand over my mouth—the prisoner then put his hand in my right trousers pocket and took out what money there was, a half-crown and three halfpence—they ransacked my pockets and took what was in them—I said, "You are welcome to what there is there, there is only a few halfpence," but there was a half-crown—the prisoner said, "Oh, he has only got a few halfpence; you may as well put that back and let him go, he has got nothing," and he put back the three halfpence—they then let me go—I was determined not to lose sight of them, and I went on the opposite side, close to Gray's Inn, under the dead wall—I saw a female come up, and I saw the prisoner strike her and partly knock her down—I went into Holborn to look for a constable, and I spoke to one of the city men—he said he was not in duty bound to go with me—I went into Middle Row and saw another constable, and he said the city constable was bound to go with me, and as I was coming back to the city constable I saw another constable in Gray's Inn Road talking to another man who had been ill-used—ultimately G 249 went with me—I saw the prisoner on the</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 249). I was in Gray's Inn Lane on the morning of the 28th October—the last witness came to me about sixty yards from Fox Court—he pointed out the prisoner to me and I took him into custody—I did not search him at the time—I charged him with assaulting William Carr and Richard Stanley, and robbing them—he said he was not guilty of the charge, that he had not been in the place for two hours—I took him to the station and searched him—I found on him a half-crown, a three penny piece, three penny pieces and a halfpenny—he gave his address No. 17, Union Terrace—he said he had received the money from his master—he was the worse for liquor, but quite sensible—the prosecutor was quite sober.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I was never in prison in my life, and never charged with anything. I am a hard working man. I have worked at the Guild-hall for Mr. Lucas. I don't remember anything about this. I was very drunk.
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., his property.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-65" type="witnessName">
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in a purse, and the ticket of my watch, which was in pawn in Bishopsgate Street—I had been out of work eight weeks—after they had taken my money, when I was just calling "Police!" the prisoner called out "Finish," or some such word, and I received two kicks at the back of my head, which took all my senses away till I found myself in the hospital—I was there for a fortnight—I am not able to work now—I have not been free from head
<lb/>ache since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. The man was quite as drunk as I was.
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. I had had nothing but a pint of beer where I had been to get a glass eye from a sub
<lb/>scription that had been given me—I had lost my eye through a misfortune in my work, and my mates had subscribed to get me a glass one.</p>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-66" type="given" value="ALICE"/>ALICE POINTER</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Alfred Pointer, of 12, Bell Court, Gray's Inn Lane—on the morning of 28th October, after one o'clock, I was coming along Gray's Inn Lane, by Fox Court—I saw the. prisoner there and a short fellow with, him—the prisoner struck me in the sto
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<p>with his head—I went to get a policeman, but could not find one until I got home—I am sure the prisoner is the man.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-67" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CHAPLIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman G</hi> 249). I took the prisoner into cus
<lb/>tody on this night from information I received—I met the prosecutor in Gray's Inn Lane about half-past one, when he made a complaint to me—he pointed out the prisoner—he was rather the worse for liquor, or appeared so from being ill-treated by the prisoner—he knew what he was about—he pointed out the prisoner, and gave evidence at the station of what he had taken from him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18661119-15-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.†—
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<hi rend="italic">Seven Years' Penal Servitude,</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">and twenty lashes with the cat</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH DINES</hi> (34)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-70" type="surname" value="HART"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-70" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT HART</persName> </hi>. I am a fish salesman of 28, Underwood Street, City Road—on Saturday night, 3rd November, I went to bed about half-past eleven—I examined the doors and windows, and they were all perfectly secure—I was awoke a little before five in the morning by a noise like the forcing of the passage door leading from the washhouse—shortly after
<lb/>wards I heard a crash of glass—I then went downstairs—I found the back parlour window up, and the washhouse window was broken away just by the catch—a person could then undo it and open the window—I then went and called a policeman—there was nothing taken that I am aware of.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-71" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WHITING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman N</hi> 38). On the morning of 4th November the prosecutor made a complaint to me; I went and examined the house—access had been gained by passing over two walls from seven to eight feet high—the washhouse window and the back parlour window was broken—I examined the back yard—I saw no one there, but in the adjoining yard I saw the prisoner making his escape over the wall—I made a rush at him and caught him by his left arm—he struggled very hard, and the sleeve of his coat came off—I called for assistance and got him into the street—he asked who charged him—I told him I did—with great diffi
<lb/>culty we conveyed him to the station—a low wall, about four feet high, separated the yard where I found him from the prosecutor's—by en
<lb/>tering the washhouse window he would get to the passage door—that was bolted, and he could not get further, and he then went back and got in the other way.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I was in liquor.
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. He pretended to be after I had taken him into custody, but it was only pretence, he could walk very well.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I am known to the police, and in conseqnence of that I have not been able to go about the streets. I know nothing about this case. On Saturday night, after coming from work, I met a friend and got drinking, and on Sunday morning I found myself in the station-house.
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<interp inst="t18661119-16-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">He</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a previous conviction in May</hi>, 1861,
<hi rend="italic">when he was sentenced to Seven Years' Penal Servitude.—
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<interp inst="t18661119-16-punishment-14" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-16-18661119 t18661119-16-punishment-14"/>Ten Years' Penal Ser
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, November</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I went to the Nightingale, asked for the gin, and put down the florin—the barmaid served the gin out, and then said the florin was bad—she handed it to another lady behind the bar—the landlord spoke to me—he then went out at one door and I at the other—I crossed the road to where I had left the prisoner, but he was not there—I walked across the road, whistled two or three times, and he came up—I put my hand in my pocket and said, "The gin," but I had not got the bottle—he stooped down to take it from me and the landlord took hold of him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I stood it on the counter, and he put down a florin, which I found was bad—I took the gin back—my mistress looked at the florin and gave it back to me—I gave it to the constable—the landlord went out at one door and the boy at the other.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-75" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GRAY</persName> </hi>. I keep the Nightingale public-house—on the 12th November I followed Davidson across the road to the corner of Church Street—he whistled once and the prisoner came up—the boy made an attempt as if to take a bottle out of his pocket till I came to him—I took him to my house and gave him in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-76" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COOPER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 138
<hi rend="italic">D</hi>). I took the prisoner at the Nightingale, public-house, and told him the charge—he said, "I know nothing about it, the boy has made a mistake, I had no money in my pocket"—I asked the boy twice if he was positive the prisoner was the man, he said, "Yes"—the barmaid gave me this florin (
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-77" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to her Majesty's Mint—this is a bad florin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I sold the ticket of a ring and received the florin as. a good one. I wanted a drop of gin to take into the Marylebone Theatre, and as there was a man there who I had quarrelled with, I sent the boy in. While he was gone a lady asked me the way to the Marylebone Road, and while I was pointing it out the boy whistled. I went to him, and the landlord took me.
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<p>18.
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-79" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-79" type="surname" value="TUCK"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-79" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES TUCK</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 1, Rodney Street North, Islington—on the 3rd August I kept a beerhouse—the prisoner came in that day for</p>
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<p>half a pint of beer—he put down a bad shilling—I laid it on the counter, and he took another out which was also bad—he said that he thought he had one bad one, but did not know he had two—I gave him in charge—he was taken to Clerkenwell Police-court, remanded, and discharged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-80" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILLIAMS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 85
<hi rend="italic">Y</hi>). On the 3rd August I took the prisoner and received these two shillings from Tuck—I found 5
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-81" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-81" type="given" value="ROSA"/>ROSA BASEDEN</persName> </hi>. I live with my brother, who keeps the Royal Standard, Shepherd's Bush—about two months ago in the evening the prisoner came for a glass of ale, and gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I bent it, told him it was bad, and gave it back to him—he said that he was not aware of it, and went out without drinking the ale—he came again about a month afterwards for threepenny worth of brandy and water, and gave me a half-crown—I bent it, gave it back to him, and told him it was bad—he said that be was not aware of it, and paid me with coppers—I told him if he came again we should lock him up—he left, taking the half-crown with him—about two months afterwards, in October, he came again for a glass of ale, paid one of the barman with a bad florin, and was locked up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. You did not see the half-crown; your sister took it.
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. She gave it to me and I bent it—you frequent the house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-82" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi>. On the 20th October I was barman at the Royal Standard—the prisoner came in between four and five o'clock that after-noon for a glass of sixpenny ale—he put down a florin—I bent it and told him it was bad—my master asked him if he had any money to pay for the ale—he said no, and my master sent for a policeman, to whom I gave the florin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-83" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED RANKIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 338
<hi rend="italic">N</hi>). The prisoner was given in my custody with this florin—I searched him at the station and found four shillings, two sixpences, and 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers—I told him the charge—he said that he did not know the florin was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-84" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two shillings are bad, and from the same mould—the florin is also bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I was not aware they were bad, I had been in my situation two years, and was taking money every day.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CORNELIUS BARRETT</hi> (34)</persName>, and
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<interp inst="def3-19-18661119" type="surname" value="BARRETT"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH BARRETT</hi> (26)</persName>
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<persName id="def4-19-18661119" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def4-19-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def4-19-18661119" type="age" value="34"/>
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<interp inst="def4-19-18661119" type="given" value="CORNELIUS"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CORNELIUS BAR
<lb/>RETT</hi> </persName>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18661119-19-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-19-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-19-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18661119-19-punishment-17" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-19-punishment-17" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-19-punishment-17" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-19-18661119 t18661119-19-punishment-17"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Defended John Barrett</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-89" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-89" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-89" type="surname" value="BRANNAN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-89" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 39, Radnor Street, St. Luke's, and am principally employed by the authorities of the Mint in carrying out their inquiries—I am also agent to the Inspector of Reformatories—on the 2nd of November I went with Fife and other officers to No. 5, George Street, Spitalfields, between two and three o'clock in the afternoon—on entering the street an alarm was given, and John Barrett's head, which was out of the window, disappeared—we proceeded with all speed to the second floor front room, which was found open by Inspector Fife—at the time we entered Cornelius Barrett was standing close to John at the table, and he swept off the table with his hand a quantity of crowns, some of</p>
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<p>which dropped on the floor, and some he threw out at the open window—he was seized and secured—he resisted very violently—John Barrett sat down on a chair by the window, and I then saw Elizabeth Barrett take from a table a black bag—it is a very small room—she took up a packet from the table wrapped up in a rag, and threw it out of the window—I had stationed Inspector Broad at the door outside in the street—I seized the female prisoner's hand, having seen her take a crown off the mantel-piece, and endeavoured to get it—she said, "May God strike me b—dead if it is not a good one, Mr. Brannan"—I said, "I quite imagine it is, and the pattern piece from which the mould is taken"—I got it from her hand with some difficulty, and soon afterwards Inspector Broad brought in a parcel with nine crowns in it, which she threw out, and two half-crowns which Cornelius threw out—I found that some of them corresponded in date and marks with the one I took from Elizabeth—she resisted very violently—I saw the officers pick up off the floor a quantity of coin which was strewed about—there was a clear bright fire in the fireplace, and I found this ladle (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) with a small portion of white metal in it, hot, but not melted—Inspector Broad found a file with white metal hang
<lb/>ing to the teeth of it, as if it had been recently used—I recovered this packet, containing the fragments of a plaster of Paris mould for casting crowns, and which Broad said that he saw thrown out at the window—the prisoners heard that, but made no answer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you sure you said at the police-court that an alarm was given?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but it was not taken down—a man at the corner of the street gave the alarm, and we immediately rushed upstairs—we do not apply to be let in, unless it is by a sledge hammer—the room door was fastened, but not the street door—the prisoner John has been occasionally working at the Docks—I do not think he has ever been convicted—this was Cornelius's place—they are brothers—the female prisoner cohabits with Cornelius.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the room door locked?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not know, we did not wait to try—Fife broke it open with a sledge hammer—I was present when the prisoners were committed, and heard Cornelius say that John was not guilty—he said, "This man is innocent"—Elizabeth was exceedingly violent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-90" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-90" type="surname" value="FIFE"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-90" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FIFE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector G</hi>). I went with Brannan and broke the panel of the door in—I saw Cornelius seize a quantity of coin, and throw it out at the window—Elizabeth was standing by the fireplace—she seized a bag and threw it out at the window—I found on the table seven counter-feit half-crowns.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-91" type="surname" value="BRANNAN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-91" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector F</hi>). I went with the other officers—I found two bad crowns at Cornelius's feet, and this plaster of Paris, and a bottle of acid under the table—this knife was on the table, with plaster of Paris on it—Cornelius said, "You have, got me and the old woman to rights; my brother merely came up for a bit of
<hi rend="italic">grub</hi>, as he had been out of work six weeks; he is innocent."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-92" type="surname" value="BROAD"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-92" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROAD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Inspector H</hi>). I went with the party and remained in the street—I saw Brannan and Fife go upstairs, and shortly afterwards I saw several pieces of coin thrown out at the window—I picked them up, and also a black parcel containing a mould and a file.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-93" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-93" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-93" type="surname" value="ELLIOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-93" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR ELLIOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">G</hi>). I am employed by Mr. Brannan in watching suspected places, and had been watching this house in Spitalfields about a week—I know the room in which Cornelius Barrett</p>
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<p>lived—I have seen John go in and out there half a dozen times, and have seen him at the window—I had seen them together two days before—I saw John go in, and saw him at the window as well.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You were not of sufficient importance to be examined before the Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I was there—it was for the solicitor to the Treasury to call me—I had not told him what I now say—I was ordered by Mr. Brannan to be there—I had told him that I had seen John going in and out with Cornelius—Mr. Brannan told me to be here to-day, and he spoke to me since—he was cross-examined, and asked me if I could remember the days, and I said "Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Does Mr. Brannan arrange about the witnesses going up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he told me to be in attendance at the police-court, and also here—I have been employed by him for many years in cases of this description, and knew that it was my duty to be in attendance.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-94" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-94" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These fragments are parts of a mould for making crowns, here is part of the
<hi rend="italic">get</hi>—this piece has the same marks on it as the good crown, proving that this coin was used for making the mould—these eleven crowns are bad, and all were made in this mould—this metal is the same that the coins are made of—the plaster of Paris is used for making moulds—the acid is for charging the battery, and the file to file off the
<hi rend="italic">get</hi>, which is the aperture in the mould through which the metal is poured.
<hi rend="italic">John Barrett</hi>. This woman is my wife; she is innocent.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN BARRETT</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">NOT GUILTY</hi> </rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH BARRETT</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18661119-19-verdict-3" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-19-verdict-3" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-19-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18661119-19-punishment-18" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-19-punishment-18" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-19-18661119 t18661119-19-punishment-18"/>Ten Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>20.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL BENNETT</hi> (22)</persName>(
<hi rend="italic">a soldier</hi>)
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<interp inst="t18661119-20-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-20-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> </rs> to
<rs id="t18661119-20-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-20-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-20-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>un
<lb/>lawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18661119-20-punishment-19" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-20-punishment-19" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-20-punishment-19" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-20-18661119 t18661119-20-punishment-19"/>Confined Six Months</rs> </hi>. And,</p> </div1>
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<p>21.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM ALFRED RUSHBROOK</hi>** (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18661119-21-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-21-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/> to unlawfully endeavouring to obtain from William Charity divers moneys by false pretences.</rs>
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<interp inst="t18661119-21-punishment-20" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-21-punishment-20" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-21-18661119 t18661119-21-punishment-20"/>
<hi rend="italic">Confined Two Months</hi> </rs>.
<rs id="t18661119-21-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-21-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-21-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty:See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, November</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<p>22.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD MURPHY</hi> (21)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-22-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-22-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-22-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="housebreaking"/>, Breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-22-offence-1 t18661119-name-98"/>William Answorth</persName>, and stealing there from one clock, his property.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GOUGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-99" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-99" type="surname" value="SKEGG"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-99" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN SKEGG</persName> </hi>. I am a servant, and live at No. 56, Burlington Road, Paddington—on Sunday evening, 21st October, about a quarter-past seven o'clock, I saw the prisoner and another man walking up and down on each side of the way opposite Mr. Answorth's house—at about half-past seven o'clock I saw the prisoner come off Mr. Answorth's steps with something shining in his hand, like a basket—(he had nothing when I first saw him)—the other man crossed the road to him, they walked to the side of a lamp-post, covered the basket over, and then walked up to me—I men
<lb/>tioned what I had seen to two policemen.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where were you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was standing at the top of the area steps, locking the gate—when he came off the steps he turned to the right, but he crossed the road right before my face, as near to me as you are—I had never seen him before—I next saw him at Marylebone</p>
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<p>Police-station the next day—I went there with a policeman on Sunday afternoon, saw the prisoner with nine or more others, and pointed him out—I have not seen the other man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GOUGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you first saw him near the prosecutor's house was there a lamp near?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and he crossed opposite me, I saw his face and dress plainly, and am quite certain he is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-100" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-100" type="surname" value="ANSWORTH"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-100" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA ANSWORTH</persName> </hi>. I am the prosecutor's wife, and live at No. 41, Burlington Road—on the night of 24th October I had an ornamental clock with a glass shade over it in the dining-room, which is downstairs—the dining-room door is six or seven feet from the front door—I saw the clock safe at a quarter to seven o'clock, and missed it at twenty minutes past—our house is opposite No. 56.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-101" type="surname" value="HALL"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-101" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK HALL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 233
<hi rend="italic">X</hi>). I received information from the first witness—I examined the prosecutor's dining-room window and the railings that go up the steps—there were footmarks on the railings and on the window-sill, and a garden pot had been removed from the side to the centre of the window.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>23.
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<interp inst="def1-23-18661119" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD MURPHY</hi> </persName> was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted, with
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<interp inst="def2-23-18661119" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM BERRY</hi> (40)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-23-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-23-offence-1 t18661119-name-104"/>Isaac Taylor</persName>, and stealing from his person one chain, his property.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GOUGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Murphy</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-105" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-105" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am a carpenter, of No. 55, Queen Street, Edgware Road—on Saturday evening, 27th October, about a quarter to nine o'clock I was at the White Lion public-house, and saw Berry there, who I had seen about four years ago, but not since, as he robbed me then—I was quite sober—I did not speak to him, but he caught hold of my arm and
<hi rend="italic">chucked</hi> me round—I asked him what he did that for; he made no answer, but struck me on my breast, and struck my watch-guard up, saying, "You are not everybody, if you have got a guard on"—he struck me two or three times—I buttoned my coat up, and turned to go outside to get away from him, but he rushed at me, unbuttoned my coat, and struck me a violent blow on my eye—we struggled together and both fell on the floor inside, and I felt a tug at my watch, and then missed it—I immediately got up, and said, "He has stolen my watch"—he got up immediately, and I found my chain was gone, but my watch was still in my pocket—I said, "You have stolen my watch," and then I saw him pass something to Murphy, who I then saw for the first time—I said, "Stick to the door, and let no one go out till we get the police in"—Murphy rushed at me and struck me three times to get to the door, but I kept him in—he made a rush at another door and got out there—Berry stood in a fighting attitude till Murphy was gone—the police came in and I gave him in charge—my chain was worth about 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have not seen it since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How many persons were in the house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There might be twenty, and most of them were prostitutes—I know that, because they are always walking about the streets—I did not speak to any of them—the landlord was there, not the potman—Berry did not say that he would go, he did not speak, he only struck me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Berry. Q.</hi> Did you not come in and have something to drink with us?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have had nothing to drink for twelve months—I did not get into con
<lb/>versation with you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-106" type="surname" value="LITTLEJOHN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-106" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LITTLEJOHN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 186
<hi rend="italic">X</hi>). I took Berry at the White</p>
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<p>Lion, and asked him what he had got to say about stealing the chain—he said, "I did not mean to steal it I did it for a lark"—I said, "Where is the chain now?"—he said, "I threw it over the bar"—I could not find it there.</p>
<p>Berry.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was I not standing in the bar when you came in? A. Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-107" type="surname" value="COLLIER"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-107" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COLLIER</persName> </hi>. I am a carpenter, of No. 58, Camden Street, Notting Hill—I was standing in the White Lion, and saw both the prisoners strike the prosecutor—Murphy's hat was off on the ground—Berry said, "Run to the door"—they could not get out, and he said to me, "You b—, let me go"—I had not the presence of mind to stop him, but let him pass, and ran after him—he ran up the Edgware Road, and afterwards came back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you run? A. Yes, and had him in sight a good part of the way, but he was out of my sight three or four minutes—he was about twenty yards before me as he ran.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GOUGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you sure Berry is the man who ran. A. Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Berry's Defence</hi>. I quarrelled with Taylor in the public-house about his bad work, and he caught me by the neck and knocked me against the door, when thirty or forty people came between us and stopped the fight. I never touched his watch-guard. I did not say that I threw the watch and chain over the bar. If so, how could he have his watch? I never saw Murphy in my life, and did not know he was in the house. Taylor and the bricklayer were the worse for drink. I did not say that I did it for a lark. I defy any person to say that I ever committed felony, or was at any police-court in the kingdom. Taylor says that I robbed him four years ago. If so, why was I not brought before a Magistrate the same as now? I am a working man, and no thief.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MURPHY</hi>
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<interp inst="t18661119-23-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-23-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted of felony, in July</hi>, 1861,
<hi rend="italic">to which he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.**—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-23-18661119 t18661119-23-punishment-21"/>Ten Years'
<hi rend="italic">Penal Servitude</hi> </rs>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">BERRY</hi>
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<interp inst="t18661119-23-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-23-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-23-18661119 t18661119-23-punishment-22"/>
<hi rend="italic">Confined Twelve Months</hi> </rs>.</p> </div1>
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<p>24.
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<interp inst="def1-24-18661119" type="surname" value="ALBERT"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM ALBERT</hi> (20)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-24-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-24-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-24-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing one purse, one pair of earrings, and two duplicates from the person of a woman unknown.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GOUGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-109" type="surname" value="OBEE"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-109" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL OBEE</persName> </hi> (City Policeman 99). I was at the top corner of Cheap-side on Lord Mayor's day about a quarter past three o'clock, and saw a lady in front of a gentleman—the prisoner pulled the lady's dress out a little way—the gentleman pulled him away, and at the same time the prisoner put something into his right-hand pocket—he made a rush and got away—I was shoved on one side, but followed him to King Street, where I laid hold of him and told him I wanted him for robbing a lady—he twisted and tried to get away—Whitney, who was with me, put his hand in the pri
<lb/>soner's trousers pocket and took out this purse (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I took him to the station, and found on him a tobacco pouch and this Albert chain, which he was wearing without a watch—he refused his address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were the streets very much crowded, and a great many rough characters about, and a great many practical jokes being played? A. Yes, and hats were being thrown in the air—there were lots of people near the prisoner, but I was close to the prisoner—the gentleman pulled him from the lady—I was then pushed by the crowd, and he got away, and immediately he got away he put his hand in his trousers pocket.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you certain he is the man who put his hand to his side?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I have known him twelve months or more.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-110" type="surname" value="WHITNEY"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-110" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WHITNEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 98). I was with Obee—I have heard his evidence, it is correct, but I did not see the gentleman pull the prisoner—I saw the prisoner go down Cheapside, and I had him in sight the whole time—I took from his right
<lb/>hand trousers pocket this purse, con
<lb/>taining a pair of common earrings and two duplicates.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES MCCLELLAND</hi> (29)</persName>
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<rs id="t18661119-25-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-25-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-112" type="surname" value="COHEN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-112" type="given" value="LEWIS"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-25-offence-1 t18661119-name-112"/>Lewis Cohen</persName> and another, his masters.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>26.
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<interp inst="def1-26-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-26-18661119" type="surname" value="MCCLELLAND"/>
<interp inst="def1-26-18661119" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES MCCLELLAND</hi> </persName> was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
<rs id="t18661119-26-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-26-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-26-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/> for feloniously forging and uttering an order for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HOUSTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-114" type="surname" value="SWIFT"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-114" type="given" value="CHARLES ISAAC"/>CHARLES ISAAC SWIFT</persName> </hi>. I am a wholesale boot and shoe manufacturer, of 99, High Street, Camden Town—I have dealt with Mr. Cohen, and in October I owed him 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the prisoner called on me for the amount and I gave him this cheque (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>:—"National Bank, Pay Mr. Cohen or order 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., Charles I. Swift," endorsed "L. Cohen")—it was not crossed—I had given the prisoner cheques previously.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you any of them here?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I was not asked at the police-court whether the endorsement was the same.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-115" type="surname" value="RICHARDS"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-115" type="given" value="ALBERT"/>ALBERT RICHARDS</persName> </hi>. I am clerk in the National Bank, Camden Town—Mr. Swift keeps an account there—this cheque was produced on the 11th October with this endorsement on it—I paid it in cash, but I do not re
<lb/>member to whom, or whether I made any inquiry of the person.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you paid other cheques of Mr. Swift's?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I cannot recollect the endorsements on them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-116" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-116" type="surname" value="COHEN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-116" type="given" value="LEWIS"/>LEWIS COHEN</persName> </hi>. I am a bootmaker, of 1, Nelson Street, Stepney—Mr. Swift is a customer of mine and owed me 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on 11th October, which I have not received—the prisoner was in my employ—this "Lewis Cohen" at the back of the cheque is his writing and not mine—I have never authorised him to sign my name or to endorse it to a cheque—he has not paid me any money on account of this cheque—I first saw it on 14th October, I think in Mr. Swift's hand—he sent for my banker, and he fetched it and gave it me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where do you carry on business?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I, Nelson Street—I have been there over twelve months, and was in King Edward Street, Mile End New Town, for five years—I keep no books—it is not an extensive business, only about 600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year—my mistress has brought a book which she keeps—I can only write my name and the word "paid." (
<hi rend="italic">The witness here wrote his name and the word "paid," at Mr. Daly's request</hi>.) I know the prisoner's writing very well—this is his regular writing—he had not to collect money for me—his duty was to sell goods and deliver the money to me at night—he was sometimes paid on cheques—he would very often pay my mistress—if she had gone to bed he would not pay her, because I was up at most times—I always asked her if he had paid, but sometimes he received no payment—he would come sometimes at ten and sometimes at eleven at night—I have been at the theatre two or three times since he has been with me, but I always went home when the first piece was over, at half-past nine, and waited for him—I paid my money to go into the theatre, and then went home to wait</p>
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<p>for my traveller—I used to require the money very often that he collected to pay my workpeople—it never occurred that I had not money enough to pay them until be came home—I pay 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week, and keep that amount in my house—I never told him not to take crossed cheques—he sometimes brought them—I have no banker—I paid them to a leather-cutter, who changed them for me—I told the prisoner to accept all cheques given to him—he used not to sign receipts in my name—he never signed my name except when he took money from customers, and I do not know that he signed my name then; so long as he always brought me the money, I was always satisfied—I did not go to persons to inquire—he did not tell me that he could not bring me the money that night because the cheques were made payable to order—I never said, "So long as you bring me the money, I do not care what you sign," or anything like it—he did not tell me that he had signed an endorsement on a cheque, and I never knew that he had done so—I never knew that he had obtained money by signing my name, nor did I take the money afterwards—when he took this cheque he ran away—I then went round to the customers, and found he had taken a cheque from Mr. Swift and allowed five per cent, discount, which was more than I allow.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HOUSTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When he received money did he sign your name?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He signed his name first and then he signed "Paid," but I cannot read.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-117" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-117" type="surname" value="COHEN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-117" type="given" value="PRISCILLA"/>PRISCILLA COHEN</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness and keep his books—the endorsement to this cheque is not his writing, but the pri
<lb/>soner's—that amount has never been paid to me by him or accounted for in any way—I have never seen him write my husband's name by his authority.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is it in his ordinary writing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I have got a book with me which I keep Mr. Swift's account in—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I have received nothing on that account on 11th October—I keep no cash-book, only this book—I make the entry here at the time the goods go out—the account is 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I write "Settled," when he brings the money; he pays Mr. Cohen sometimes, but I am there always to write it down—if we were out, he used to stand at the door or go inside and wait till we came in, but it was not often that we were out—he did not sleep in the house—we only went to the theatre two or three times in a year—we got home sometimes at eleven, and sometimes earlier—the first piece is over at nine or ten—we did not always leave when the first piece was over, but sometimes we left and went back again—the theatre is about five minutes' walk from our house—it is the Effingham—I only found the prisoner waiting in the street twice—he was paid by commission, two and a half per cent. I think—I gave money to Mr. Cohen—I sometimes paid the prisoner his commission—he did not deduct it out of the money he paid—it would be reckoned up a couple of hours before he came home—I used to put down what he brought home in this book, but I did not always put down the dates of the month—I know Mr. Swift's bill is not paid, because I have not got "Settled" here—Mr. Cohen used not some-times to send his father-in-law with the prisoner—when we came home from the theatre Mr. Cohen would fetch the book and pen and ink into the kitchen—the books were locked up, but the key was in the warehouse—we took it with us if we went out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HOUSTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> If you were not at home, would the prisoner wait?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> yes; his salary was 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week and two and a half per cent, commis
<lb/>sion, with the use of a horse and cart.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-118" type="given" value="MOSES"/>MOSES WILSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 665
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi>). I took the prisoner on 16th October—he was first charged with embezzlement—he was twice remanded, and afterwards this charge was preferred—he said it was done through drink.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LILLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-121" type="surname" value="SHEHAN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-121" type="given" value="MICHAEL"/>MICHAEL SHEHAN</persName> </hi>. I am a seaman—on 7th November I was lodging at the Sailors' Home, Whitechapel, and about ten o'clock in the evening I was in the highway—I had had very little to drink, and was as sober as I am now—the prisoner came behind, put his arm over my shoulder and his hand on my mouth; another person then came up very quickly, and they got me down between them, and one of them took my money from my pockets very quickly and ran away—I ran after them, kept close to them, and kept the prisoner in sight till he was stopped by a policeman, and I charged him—they did not strike me—I lost from 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which I had felt safe a quarter of an hour before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-122" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRAYBROOK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi> 92
<hi rend="italic">H</hi>). I was on duty in St. George's Street East about 150 yards off, and saw a number of persons running towards me, but they turned up Prince's Street—I ran towards them, turned up Prince's Court, met the prisoner running as hard as he could, and stopped him—all the others were following him, crying out, "Stop thief"—Wigley came up first, and said something, and then Shehan came up and said, in the prisoner's presence, "That is the man that robbed me"—Shehan was very much exhausted—Wigley said that he was one of the two who were running, but he did not see him rob the man—going to the station Wigley said in the prisoner's hearing, "I believe that man (
<hi rend="italic">the prisoner</hi>) has given something to that girl"—that was a girl named Hunt, who was taken in custody—I took them both to the station, but nothing was found on either of them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I heard a cry of "Stop thief," and ran towards the head of the crowd. I turned down the court, and ran into the policeman's arms.
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-28-offence-1 t18661119-name-124"/>Morris Desaxe</persName>, his master.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-125" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT ELLIS</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Harrison, a pawnbroker, of Aldersgate Street—I produce four umbrellas pawned on 31st July for 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. I do not know by whom.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-126" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CARPENTER</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Smith, a pawnbroker, of Newgate Street—I produce three umbrellas, pawned on 30th May for 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and four on 25th July, for 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I do not identify the person.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-127" type="given" value="GEORGE ALFRED"/>GEORGE ALFRED FLEET</persName> </hi>. I am porter to Mr. Desaxe, an umbrella maker, of Addle Street—it was my duty to act under the prisoner's direc
<lb/>tions—I have taken umbrellas, by his directions, in wrappers with his name on them, to the Lancashire Coffee-house, London Wall, twice, if not more; and four or five times, or more, to the Crown, Lower Whitecross Street—there appeared to be three or four in each package.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Have you ever seen me bring parcels in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I have seen you walk in with an umbrella in your hand on a wet morning—the instructions you gave me were to say, "Can I leave this here in charge for Mr. Cook?"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-128" type="given" value="LOUIS"/>LOUIS STEINGRABER</persName> </hi>. I keep the Crown coffee-house—the prisoner was in the habit of coming there for refreshment—parcels and umbrellas were left there for him, very likely a dozen times, which he took away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Will you swear that all the parcels contained umbrellas?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot, but they were nearly all alike; none of them contained a pair of boots.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-129" type="given" value="MORRIS"/>MORRIS DESAXE</persName> </hi>. I am an umbrella manufacturer, of Addle Street—the prisoner has been in my service ten months previous to 14th September—these umbrellas are mine, and were removed from my stock without my authority—I took stock on 20th October and found a considerable defi
<lb/>ciency.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Had you any suspicion of my robbing you during the time I was in your employment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not the slightest.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was he entitled to give instructions to the boy?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not to leave umbrellas at coffee-houses, but the boy was right in acting under him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-130" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi> 199). On 3rd November I took the prisoner and charged him with stealing a quantity of umbrellas—he was taken to Moor Lane station and charged with stealing ten dozen umbrellas—he said, "Not so many as that"—I conveyed him to the cell, and as I was about closing the door he said, "I may as well make a clean breast of it; the most I ever took was about two dozen"—I asked him what he had done with them—he told me he had pledged two or three lots at Mrs. Harrison's, in Aldersgate Street, and three or four lots in Newgate Street—I searched him and found 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2;
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him and some betting cards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I admit giving instructions that the umbrellas should go out, but it was with a very different motive to that imputed to me. The parcels contained four or five each, and he is correct in saying six parcels. I took about twenty umbrellas altogether. I totally deny steal
<lb/>ing them or pawning them, but one or two friends asked me to get them umbrellas a little cheaper than they could get them at the retail place. I said, "Yes," and took out two or three for them to choose from. In doing so I have acted wrongly, but I paid the money I received for them to the managing clerk. If I charged them anything I took it for myself, as my salary was not enough to keep me. I have been guilty of a very silly action, but nothing for which he ought to have branded me with the name of felon. He does the second largest business in London, and it is only fea
<lb/>sible that a few of his umbrellas should get into pawnshops by other means than mine, and neither of the pawnbrokers swear to me, whereas if I had taken as many as he says I should have been pretty well known. I had six years' good character when I went to him from Messrs. Ellis, Howell, and Co.
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<p>29.
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<hi rend="italic">also</hi> to stealing four gross of rings and other articles of
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<hi rend="italic">He received a good character.—
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<p>30.
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">also</hi> an order for 33
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">He received a good character.—
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<p>31.
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited</hi>.</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>32.
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<interp inst="t18661119-32-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/>, to three indictments for embezzling the sums of 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 29
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 504
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<hi rend="italic">Five Years' Penal Servitude</hi> </rs>.
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<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18661119-33-charge-2" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-33-18661119 t18661119-33-offence-1 t18661119-33-verdict-1"/>
<p>33.
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<interp inst="def1-33-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-33-18661119" type="age" value="17"/>
<interp inst="def1-33-18661119" type="surname" value="WILLIS"/>
<interp inst="def1-33-18661119" type="given" value="HENRY"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY WILLIS</hi> (17)</persName> and
<persName id="def2-33-18661119" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-33-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-33-18661119" type="age" value="15"/>
<interp inst="def2-33-18661119" type="surname" value="DRAKE"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALFRED DUKE</hi> (15)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18661119-33-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-33-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, to burglariously breaking and entering the dwellinghouse of
<persName id="t18661119-name-141" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-141" type="surname" value="BOLTON"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-141" type="given" value="HENRY"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-33-offence-1 t18661119-name-141"/>Henry Bolton</persName>, and stealing a gold watch and other articles, his property, Drake having been previously convicted. </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIS</hi>
<rs id="t18661119-33-punishment-30" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-33-punishment-30" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-33-punishment-30" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-33-18661119 t18661119-33-punishment-30"/>Confined
<hi rend="italic">Nine Months</hi>.</rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">DRAKE</hi>**—.
<rs id="t18661119-33-punishment-31" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-33-punishment-31" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-33-punishment-31" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="otherInstitution"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-33-18661119 t18661119-33-punishment-31"/>
<hi rend="italic">Three Years in Feltham Reformatory</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18661119-33-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-33-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty:See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18661119-34" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18661119"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-34" type="date" value="18661119"/>
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<p>34.
<persName id="def1-34-18661119" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-34-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-34-18661119" type="age" value="28"/>
<interp inst="def1-34-18661119" type="surname" value="FITCH"/>
<interp inst="def1-34-18661119" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM FITCH</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18661119-34-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-34-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-34-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="animalTheft"/>**† (28), to stealing a gelding, the property of James Lipscombe, he having been before convicted in 1863.—</rs>
<rs id="t18661119-34-punishment-32" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-34-punishment-32" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-34-punishment-32" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="penalServitude"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-34-18661119 t18661119-34-punishment-32"/>
<hi rend="italic">Seven Years' Penal Servitude</hi> </rs>.
<rs id="t18661119-34-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-34-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-34-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty:See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18661119-35" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18661119"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-35" type="date" value="18661119"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18661119-35-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-35-18661119 t18661119-35-offence-1 t18661119-35-verdict-1"/>
<p>35.
<persName id="def1-35-18661119" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-35-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-35-18661119" type="age" value="15"/>
<interp inst="def1-35-18661119" type="surname" value="CURTAIN"/>
<interp inst="def1-35-18661119" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM CURTAIN</hi>** (15)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-35-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-35-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-35-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, to stealing a handkerchief from the person of
<persName id="t18661119-name-144" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-144" type="surname" value="FURZER"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-144" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-35-offence-1 t18661119-name-144"/>George Furzer</persName>, having been before convicted in July, 1866.—</rs>
<rs id="t18661119-35-punishment-33" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-35-punishment-33" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-35-punishment-33" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-35-18661119 t18661119-35-punishment-33"/>
<hi rend="italic">Confined Three Months,</hi> </rs>
<rs id="t18661119-35-punishment-34" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-35-punishment-34" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-35-punishment-34" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="otherInstitution"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-35-18661119 t18661119-35-punishment-34"/>
<hi rend="italic"> and then Five Years in a Reformatory.</hi> </rs>
<rs id="t18661119-35-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-35-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-35-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18661119-36" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18661119"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-36" type="date" value="18661119"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18661119-36-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-36-18661119 t18661119-36-offence-1 t18661119-36-verdict-1"/>
<p>36.
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<interp inst="def1-36-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-36-18661119" type="age" value="20"/>
<interp inst="def1-36-18661119" type="surname" value="MOORE"/>
<interp inst="def1-36-18661119" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ARTHUR MOORE</hi> (20)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-36-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-36-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-36-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, to burgla
<lb/>riously breaking and entering the dwellinghouse of
<persName id="t18661119-name-146" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-146" type="surname" value="OXENHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-146" type="given" value="HUGH"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18661119-36-offence-1 t18661119-name-146"/>Hugh Oxenham</persName>, and stealing therein two curtains and other articles, his property.</rs>
<rs id="t18661119-36-punishment-35" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-36-punishment-35" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-36-punishment-35" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-36-18661119 t18661119-36-punishment-35"/>
<hi rend="italic">Confined Nine Months</hi>.</rs>
<rs id="t18661119-36-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-36-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-36-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs>And,</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18661119-37" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18661119"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-37" type="date" value="18661119"/>
<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18661119-37-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-37-18661119 t18661119-37-offence-1 t18661119-37-verdict-1"/>
<p>37.
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<interp inst="def1-37-18661119" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="def1-37-18661119" type="age" value="59"/>
<interp inst="def1-37-18661119" type="surname" value="PORTEUS"/>
<interp inst="def1-37-18661119" type="given" value="EMMA"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">EMMA PORTEUS</hi> (59)</persName>
<rs id="t18661119-37-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-37-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-37-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, to three indictments for feloniously forging and uttering orders for the delivery of goods.—</rs>
<rs id="t18661119-37-punishment-36" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-37-punishment-36" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-37-punishment-36" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-37-18661119 t18661119-37-punishment-36"/>
<hi rend="italic">Confined Four Months</hi>.</rs>
<rs id="t18661119-37-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-37-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-37-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, November</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>; and</p>
<p>~
<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday and Thursday, November</hi>, 21
<hi rend="italic">st and</hi> 22
<hi rend="italic">nd</hi>, 1866.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18661119-38" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18661119"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-38" type="date" value="18661119"/>
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<p>38.
<persName id="def1-38-18661119" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-38-18661119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-38-18661119" type="age" value="24"/>
<interp inst="def1-38-18661119" type="surname" value="HAYES"/>
<interp inst="def1-38-18661119" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>
<interp inst="def1-38-18661119" type="occupation" value="police constable"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MATTHEW HAYES</hi> (24)</persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18661119-38-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18661119-38-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-38-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="perjury"/> for wilful and corrupt perjury.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. SLEIGH, MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STARLING</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Pro
<lb/>secution; and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COOPER, TURNER</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GRIFFITHS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-149" type="surname" value="STANLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-149" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES STANLEY</persName> </hi>. I am chief usher at the Marylebone Police-court—I was present on 31st August at the hearing of a charge against two persons named Dye and Pearce for burglary—I know the defendant—he is a constable in the S division of police—he gave evidence on that occasion upon the charge against Dye and Pearce—I administered the oath to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you at the trial of Barry, who was acquitted?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I have had conversations, several times with the lads Dye and Pearce—I took them to get some re
<lb/>freshment at a public-house in the neighbourhood of this court; we were all in company together, Pearce, Dye, Blackburne, and Potts, and they asked me how I thought the case would get on—I said I could not tell—Pearce said, "If they get off, what can they do to us?"—I said, "I don't know at all"—he then said, "We don't wish to hurt them; we hope they will get off; we got off, and if they get off, that will be trick and tie," meaning "that will be both alike"—he said he had no wish to hurt the constables; they were satisfied with getting off, and if they were driven into it, or brought into it, if they should be charged, they should</p>
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<p>expect Mr. Ivory to be in with them, as it was through him they made the charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where was this conversation?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At the public-house opposite, on the Thursday; it was more than once they asked the same question, but it was on the Thursday particularly, the first day of the trial—I believe Mr. Ivory is the employer of one of the lads—there were several persons in the bar at the time of this conversation, but no one paying any attention to us—it was an open conversation—we were all together—I was having something to drink with them—I paid for it—they said they had not received anything, and I asked them to have some-thing to drink—I am an officer of the police-court and a witness for the prosecution with them—I was ordered to be here—I received a subpoena on the part of the defence last evening.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-150" type="given" value="WILLIAM CHARLES"/>WILLIAM CHARLES HODGKINSON</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the. office of the Clerk of the Peace, Clerkenwell—I produce the original depositions of Dye and Pearce at the police-court—I also produce the indictment against the same persons for attempted housebreaking—the verdict was "Not Guilty."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-151" type="surname" value="BENDALL"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-151" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BENDALL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police Sergeant S</hi> 33). I produce the charge-sheet against Dye and Pearce.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Whose handwriting is this?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mine—I took the charge from Barry and Hayes. (
<hi rend="italic">The charge was, "being found in the enclosed garden of No</hi>. 63,
<hi rend="italic">Gloucester Crescent, St. Pancras, supposed for an unlawful purpose; further, with burglariously breaking and enter
<lb/>ing the above house</hi>.")The words "burglariously," &c., were not added till about nine o'clock in the morning, after the constables had been and professed to have found the state the house was in—the nature of the charge was altered from that information—it was twenty minutes to two o'clock when the young men were brought to the station—I have got the time accurately—it is part of my duty to book the time; I do not speak by guess, but positively—Barry and Hayes were in plain clothes as detectives—I had given them certain orders—I know what their line. of duty was; it would take them to Gloucester Crescent; that was where I ordered them to go, and patrol in that neighbourhood—I know Eversholt Street; they would not have the slightest business there, if they were there at all they would be entirely out of the line of their duty, they would be off the ground to which they were sent—Mr. Dollman's house is about a mile from the station—I know the Stationers' Arms public-house; that would be also out of their beat—supposing persons taken into custody at Gloucester Crescent, I should think the most direct way for the constables to take them to the station would be down Mornington Road, Stanhope Street, and across Cumberland Market into the station—I should think that would be the nearest road, that is the way I should have taken any one if I had taken them—that would be a route frequented by policemen, they would meet with about six or seven policemen that way I believe.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you mean "meet" or "pass?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> They would meet them, as they work that way, they all work to the right.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You would reckon on their meeting that number of policemen?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I should; supposing they came right down Albany Street, they would only pass two, even if they had the chance of meeting them—Albany Street is a straight beat, and there are only two policemen from the York and Albany to the station door—it would most decidedly be the proper course for them to take prisoners along a route</p>
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<p>where there might be assistance in the event of any attempt at rescue—there had been a good many burglaries in this neighbourhood, and it was in consequence of those burglaries that an extra number of policemen were stationed in plain clothes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When had Barry and Hayes gone on duty?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not see Hayes till he brought the prisoners in, but Barry at twelve o'clock at night was waiting at the station for Hayes to come—their duty was to go out at twelve o'clock—Hayes did not come to the station till twenty minutes to two o'clock, the time he brought the prisoners; but he sent a policeman in; that was Small, and in consequence of Small's message I sent Barry immediately to him—I saw nothing more of them till they brought the prisoners—after they had brought in the prisoners they went out again on duty—it would be the proper course of their duty to go up to the house where they said they had taken the prisoners, to see whether there were any appearances necessary to take notice of—I do not know that they went, only from what I was told.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Supposing there were appearances about the house of an attempt to break into it, but no appearance to indicate that an entry had been made, would it be the duty of the constables to wake up the inmates, or to wait in the neighbourhood?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> To wait in the neighbourhood—in matters of this kind the possibility of accomplices is not lost sight of—if they waited watching the premises until daylight, and then woke up the inmates, that would be in the ordinary and proper course of their duty—the time at which they left the station after giving the parties in charge was from five to ten minutes before two o'clock—they brought them in at the back door, and placed them in the dock, I then pushed up the window of my office and took their names and addresses, and after I had done that I took the charge-sheet and walked round into the room where they were, and took the charge, and it was then twenty minutes to two o'clock, it very possibly might have been three minutes before that that they came in—both Hayes and Barry gave the charge—Hayes was the first that spoke; he said, "I charge these two young men with being found in the enclosed garden of No. 63, Gloucester Crescent"—I then said to him, "Are these the young men you were watching when you sent into the station at twelve o'clock?"—he said, "Yes"—he had not anything in his hand at that time that I saw—neither of the constables had that I saw—he made this statement in the hearing of the two young men—neither of them said anything then—I then took down the charge, and read it over to them, and one of them, I could not say which, said, "We were not there," and the other one said, "No, Eversholt Street"—a knife was afterwards produced by Hayes, and he told me he had found it in the garden; that was said in their presence, they must have heard him, because they were not standing two yards from him—neither of them made any remark, not in my hearing—I should have heard them if they had—I do not know how long Hayes has been in the force, I think not above three or four years—he has been under me, or rather I do duty in the station, he has a sergeant looking after him doing duty in the streets—he has borne a very good character indeed, steady, regular, and truthful; if he had not borne the character of a good con
<lb/>stable he would not have been put in plain clothes—I saw the prisoners searched—this knife was not taken from them in my presence—I saw them searched—I saw everything that was taken—no knife was taken from them at the station—I think there were two or three matches, they were thrown into the grate; when persons are brought to the station with short pipes</p>
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<p>or matches we generally throw them away—supposing the young men were taken into custody in Eversholt Street, I should take them down Eversholt Street, up Seymour Street, Bedford Street, across Ampthill Square, Edward Street, across Cumberland Market, up Ernest Street into the station—I know the place where Small was on duty—they would be taken past there, coming from Eversholt Street; that would be a part of his beat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> While Hayes has been in the force has he not been reported?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I believe he has; I can't say how often, perhaps two or three times—he would not have been reported if he had not neglected his duty.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the report made to you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, to the Superintendent—I do not know anything of that.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Within your knowledge, has he not been reported for not properly working on his beat?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I can't say that he has—I cannot say he has not—if I was on day duty and he was on night duty I should not know anything about his duties—I know he has been reported, what for I don't know—I do not know that he was in the service of Mr. Curling, of Davies's Wharf, before he came into the police force—I do not know whether Mr. Curling is here—I do not know whether he was in the employ of Mr. Scovel, of Hibernia Wharf—I did not inquire into his character when he joined the police, so I do not know anything at all about it—I can't say what kind of plain clothes Hayes and Barry had on—I can't say that one of them had an umbrella in his hand—I cannot say that he had not—I don't believe that one of them had a light coat on—I don't re
<lb/>member it—I could not swear that he had—I don't believe that either of them had a light coat on—I will not swear he had not, because I don't know whether he had or not—I would not swear to a thing I am not positive of—I don't believe Barry had an umbrella in his hand; I did not see one, not to notice it—if the constables saw persons of a suspicious character it would be their duty to follow them, up Eversholt Street, or any other street—it would not be their duty, upon seeing the window of a house lifted, immediately to alarm the people in the house, because they told me the shutters were not opened—it was their duty to wait till daylight and not to alarm the persons in the house—the shutters were closed, and there was no proof that any person had entered the house—I should think it would be folly on the part of the policemen to alarm the persons if they saw the shutters undisturbed—I have never heard of persons getting into a house and fastening the shutters after them when they were in the house committing their depredations—I don't say it would be more likely that they would leave the shutters open to be seen by anybody pass
<lb/>ing by—it was no part of the officers' duty to alarm the persons till the proper time of waking from their rest, just before they came off duty—they would come off duty at six o'clock—if I had been on duty I should have awoke them, so as to have had time to search the house before I came off duty—I should not wait till the last moment before coming off duty, but so as to have time to get to the station at the proper time, six o'clock—if I was confident in my own mind that no person had entered the house, I should not think it right to ring the bell to ascertain whether I was right or wrong in that conjecture, I should use my own judgment upon that—it would be the duty of the constables to go back to the house immediately after leaving their prisoners at the station—the officers left before me, and I was away before two—when they brought the lads in I did not see any
<lb/>thing</p>
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<p>in the hands of either of the constables—it was after they had been searched that I saw the knife—the charge was booked first, then they were searched, and then for the first time I saw the knife—when they came in with the lads I did not see a knife in the hand of either of them—I can't say that I must have seen it if that had been so, most likely I should not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you first saw the knife was it open or shut?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Open; I am positive it was not upon the person of either of the lads when they were searched—as to awaking the inmates of the house, a constable must exercise his own judgment under the emergency—if my judgment assured me there was nobody in the house I should wait until I had time to awake the inmates before going off my beat—that is the course I should pursue.</p>
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<persName id="t18661119-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-152" type="given" value="JOHN RONALDSON"/>JOHN RONALDSON LYALL</persName> </hi>. I produce the original depositions—I took down in writing the evidence given by Hayes at the police-court—it was read over to him, and signed by him (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>:—"I am a police-constable, 81 S. Last night, about twelve o'clock, I was in Mornington Road with Barry, 99 S. I saw the two prisoners standing at the corner for about ten minutes; they then went up Mornington Road. About half-past one I saw them in the garden of No. 63, Gloucester Crescent. I leaped over the wall and caught the prisoner Dye, and Pearce was taken into custody by Barry in the garden. I found this knife. We took them to the station, and at the station the prisoner Dye said, 'That is my knife.' The other prisoner said, 'Yes, I sharpened it for you.' I and Barry went back to the house, and saw that the latch of the area window had been forced open, and some pieces of the sash lay on the window-ledge—the knife fitted the marks exactly. I found this chisel in the area.
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined</hi>. The knife was not taken from the pocket of the prisoner.")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> There were other witnesses, were there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There were Mary Ann Northcote and William Barry, the other constable—the usual caution was given by the Magistrate to the prisoners—they were asked if they had anything to say, and Pearce said, "I was taken in charge for nothing"—the other prisoner said nothing—Eversholt Street was not mentioned at the examination by anybody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When they were examined on the first occasion was anybody examined besides the two officers?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, Mary Ann North-cote, Mr. Dollman's servant—the lads had no professional assistance on that occasion, but the case was closed that day—the depositions were finished—I cannot say whether Mr. Ivory, the master of one of the lads, came to the court afterwards on that day—they were remanded for a week, but that was for other cases that might be brought against them, not for this case—a solicitor did not then appear for them—it was a Mr. Sayers, a clerk from the office of Mr. Lewis, of Great Marlborough Street, who is now instructing you—Mr. Sayers asked me about the case; I told him that it was completed, and when the case was brought before the Magistrate (I think it was a different Magistrate, but I can't be sure about that) I told the Magistrate that the case was completed, and he, on my assurance that it was so, committed them for trial immediately, and Mr. Sayers said, "Then I have nothing to say"—evidence was not tendered on the part of the defence, nor did the Magistrate refuse to hear it; he said no evidence could be heard, because the case had been completed—Mr. Sayers did not tender any evidence—I recollect now what did occur, Mr. Sayers knew that the case was closed, and to the best of my recollection he said, "As the case is closed, I suppose you will not hear any witnesses for the</p>
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<p>defence, "and the Magistrate said, "No "—I said to the constable (I do not know which was in the box at the time), "Any fresh evidence to-day?" and he said, "No"—I don't think the Magistrate said anything.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did either of the lads on their original examination express any wish to wait for witnesses, or say they had any?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, not any at all.</p>
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<persName id="t18661119-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-153" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY THOMPSON</persName> </hi>. I reside at Kingswood Cottage, Walworth—I am a reporter at the Middlesex Sessions—I knew the usher who administered the oath to the defendant—he is since dead—I saw the oath administered to Hayes in the prosecution against Pearce and Dye—I took the evidence of Hayes in that case—I produce my notes of it—(
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>:—" I am a police constable, 81 S—I remember the 30th of August coming on duty in Morn
<lb/>ington Crescent in plain clothes—a little before twelve my attention was attracted to the two prisoners, who were standing at the corner of Morning
<lb/>ton Road—after that I saw the police constable Small on his beat—they stood there about twenty minutes—I met Small, and in consequence of something I said to Small he went to the station to fetch another constable—police constable Barry, 99 S, came to me afterwards; this was about twenty minutes past twelve—the prisoners went up the Mornington Road, that is in the direction of Gloucester Crescent—I lost sight of them at the corner of Gloucester Crescent, and the next I saw of them was in the garden of No. 63, Gloucester Crescent—that was past one o'clock, but I do not know exactly—I jumped over the wall, it is about four and a half feet high—I put my hands upon it—I caught hold of the prisoner Dye—Pearce got over the wall, and Barry took him outside—I found a knife in the garden—at the station I produced the knife—Dye said, "That is my knife"—Pearce said, "Yes, I sharpened it for you"—I had found the knife in the front garden—I examined the area and window—it had been forced and the latch pushed back, and the window lifted up two or three inches—I also found this chisel (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) in the area—I had got the knife with me at the time—there were some marks on the windows, and two or three shavings taken off and laid on the window-ledge—I compared the knife with the marks I found on the window in the presence of the servant, and they corresponded—the first time I saw these lads was a little before twelve o'clock at the corner of Mornington Road—Small is here to-day—he was not examined before the police Magistrate, because this defence was not set up at the first hearing—I did not say one word about Small in my evidence before the Magistrate, I did not mention his name—I have made inquiries about these lads since this charge was preferred—I found out that Dye was in the employment of Mr. Ivory, and Pearce in the employ of Mr. Brooks—the lad Dye gave his address No. 18, Bayham Place, Camden Town, and I could not find it—he gave me No. 18—I asked at No. 18 if there was another 18, and they said no—I did not take the trouble to inquire at the next house or at the house opposite—I believe there is a No. 18
<hi rend="smallCaps">A</hi>—I was informed that Mrs. Dye, his mother, lived at No. 18
<hi rend="smallCaps">A</hi>—I gave an answer to the Court that I had been to No. 18, Bayham Place, and found that no such person lived there—I was told there was a No. 18
<hi rend="smallCaps">A</hi> by a constable since, but I was told here not to answer more than I was asked—I know the Stationers' Arms, at the corner of High Street and Warren Street, Camden Town—I did not happen to go there that night—I do not know the proprietor of the house—I know the house well—I mean to tell you and the gentlemen of the jury, on that night I was not in the Stationers' Arms public-house—and Barry were not together in this</p>
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<p>public-house on that evening before twelve o'clock that night—I was not in the Stationers' Arms in company with Barry, because at twelve o'clock I had not seen him.
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Sleigh</hi>. Let Thomas Grocer, George Ostler, and Mr. Wright come into court. (
<hi rend="italic">Three witnesses enter the court</hi>.)
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Sleigh</hi>. "You see those gentlemen?"
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. "Yes."
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Sleigh</hi>. "Let them leave the court again."
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examination continued</hi>. "I adhere to the answer I have given, that I and Barry were not in the Stationers' Arms on that night—I never saw Barry until he was sent from the station-house—I did not stay there till past one o'clock in the morning, when the house was closed—I was not near to it—I and Barry took these lads into custody—I saw them both in the garden—one was taken outside—Pearce jumped over the wall—I took Dye actually in the garden—I know Evers-holt Street—it was about a mile, or a little over, from the garden where I saw these lads, and where they were taken into custody—there is not a great deal of difference between Eversholt Street and Gloucester Crescent from the station—we did not pass Eversholt Street to go to the station—they were taken to the Albany Station—I was not in Eversholt Street or neighbourhood between one and two o'clock in the morning—I had no business there—I was not in company with Barry in or close to Eversholt Street between one and two o'clock in the morning—Eversholt Street is a mile from the station—The prisoners were taken through Mornington Road, Stanhope Street, across Cumberland Market, to our station in Albany Street—those are the streets we passed through, although we crossed other streets—we did not pass through Albany Street, because we were more likely to meet with assistance in passing through Mornington Road—that was a straighter road than going through Albany Street—Eversholt Street leads into King Street, Camden Town—I saw no man in a fit in the neighbourhood of Eversholt Street on that night—I was in plain clothes, and the other officer too—I had no umbrella with me, but I do not remember if Barry had or not—it is not true that I and Barry spoke to these lads or pushed them—it is not true that I followed these lads down High Street—I and the other officer did not get into a hansom cab—why should we do so?—it is not true that I took the prisoners into custody in Eversholt Street—it is not true that I said, "I have got one, and you take another, and so let us have a couple of them"—it is not true that I took those lads through Lidlington Street, that we stopped at the post office, and went from there to the station-house—we did not go through Mornington Crescent, but passed the end of it—I went to Mr. Dollman's house, in whose garden we had seen the prisoners, at past three o'clock—we rang the bell for the people in the house, and it was daylight when the people came—these lads were deposited in the station-house before two o'clock—they were in the station-house at that time—before we rang the bell we went into the garden and examined the window, and found the window had been lifted two or three inches, and two or three bits of shav
<lb/>ing were lying on the window—after seeing the knife I examined it with the marks on the window when I got into the house—it was getting on for five o'clock at that time—the chisel was in the area, and the knife was in the garden close by Dye.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you adhere to the statement that you found the knife there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you adhere to the statement you made here to-day, that the knife was not taken from the lad in the station-house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Certainly—I searched him in the station-house in the presence of others, but I took the knife into the station-house open in my hand.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is it your duty when you take persons into custody at the</p>
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<p>station-house to report to the sergeant on duty what you find on them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but this knife was not found on the person of the prisoner, it was found in the garden.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> If it was taken from the prisoner on being searched, would it be your duty to have it entered on the charge-sheet?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, it is my duty to search any one taken into custody, unless it is a female—it is my duty to sign the charge-sheet.
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Sleigh. Q.</hi> I ask you whether in the presence of the sergeant and inspector this lad did not say, "This is my knife?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, before I searched him—I said so before.
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Payne</hi>. He was not cross-examined as to any of these things before the Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, they were committed for trial—on the first occasion when the prisoners were brought before the Magistrate there was no professional man—Pearce said it was false.
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Sleigh. Q.</hi> On the occasion of the remand did not the solicitor who instructs me say he had an ample defence, and the Magistrate said it was no use to hear a professional man, as he was determined to send the case for trial?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.")</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-154" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES PEARCE</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 15, Johnson Street, Somer's Town, with my parents—I am in the employment of Mr. Ivory, a pianoforte manufacturer, at Brooks's factory, Cumberland Market—I had been in his employ about ten months previous to this transaction—I know Dye—he is a companion and friend of mine—I remember the night of the 30th August—on that night I met Dye in a place called the "Slips" in the Regent's Park—I should think it was a little before eight o'clock—I did not part company with him at all that night—I was with him during the whole night until we were taken into custody—I know Gloucester Crescent—I was not in Gloucester Crescent that night—I was not in the garden of the house No. 63—a chap of the name of Gregory was with me in the "Slips" besides Dye, another one of the name of Blackburn, and George Potts, and a young girl of the name of Phoebe Glue—I could not say for certain what time it was when we left the "Slips," but it was about a quarter past eight—we went to the Regalia public-house, in Augusta Street—Gregory, Blackburn, and Potts were with us there—Phoebe Glue had left us—we stayed at the Regalia until about twenty minutes past eleven, and then went to the York and Albany public-house—that was the nearest point that we were to Gloucester Crescent—I do not know the house that was supposed to have been broken—I should say Gloucester Crescent was about 150 yards from the York and Albany—we stayed at the York and Albany till they shut up, twelve o'clock—Gregory, Dye, Potts, and Blackburn were with me up to that time—when we left there we went down Park Street into Smith's, the one o'clock house, the Camden Stores, at the corner of Grove Street and Park Street—it was about ten minutes or a quarter past twelve when we got to Smith's—all the persons I have named were with me except Glue—she joined us again at the York and Albany before we got to the one o'clock house—we walked straight into Smith's and called for some ale—all of us went in—I believe Glue went in with us—we remained there till about five minutes to one—after we left there we walked down Park Street, turned down by the Britannia, down High Street, till we got to the corner of Warren Street, where we saw some young chaps standing outside the Stationers' Arms—from what I have learnt since, I wanted to fight some of them—a young chap told me I wanted to fight him—I had been drinking a good deal of beer that even
<lb/>ing—I had known those young men by sight—I first saw the defendant Hayes when I got to the Stationers' Arms—Barry was with him—they</p>
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<p>were standing outside the Stationers' Arms—they were both dressed in private clothes—one of them, Barry, had an umbrella in his hand—I could not swear which one had a light coat, but I know one had a light overcoat—there was a little bit of a row with our party and the others outside the Stationers' Arms, and we walked down Cam
<lb/>den Town—the constables followed us—when we got about a hundred yards down there was a man in a fit—we stopped to look at him, and one of the constables said, "Sling your dannel"—he said that to Blackburn, who was with us—we then walked across the road to the other side of High Street, and Barry poked Blackburn in the back with his umbrella—then we ran, and they ran a little way, and Black
<lb/>burn and Dye turned round King Street—I and Gregory and Phoebe Glue ran straight down Camden Town—our party and Dye and Black
<lb/>burn met again at the corner of High Street at the perambulator maker's—they would go down King Street, round Bayham Street, and round Earl's Terrace—we were all together at the bottom of High Street, except Potts—he left Smith's public-house two or three minutes before we did, and went home—that was before the poking in the back with the umbrella—when we were at the corner of High Street we stood bidding Blackburn good night, because he lives up Kentish Town—we bade him good night at the corner of Eversholt Street—that is just across the road—before Blackburn had left us we had crossed the road, and stood at the chemist's shop at the corner of Eversholt Street—it was there that Black
<lb/>burn left us—we then went straight down Eversholt Street—we had gone half-way down Eversholt Street, and Dye ran on ahead—he did not run, he went a little quicker than we—I asked where he was going—he turned round and said he was going round the corner to make water—he went round Crawley Mews, and when he got round there Hayes and Barry were there, and knocked him down—I and Glue and Gregory were on the right side of the road coming from Camden Town—the constables and Dye were on the opposite side—they took Dye into custody, and they were bringing him across the road, and Gregory and Glue ran up, and I said, "What is the matter?" and Hayes said to Barry, "Collar him; we may as well have a couple"—they then took me into custody—Gregory was following behind, and they told him if he did not go back they would have him—Gregory then went home—he went away—we were taken from Eversholt Street; through Lidlington Place, across the road by some iron posts—they stopped there for a second or two, as though considering which way they should take us—we then went through the iron posts, and round Harrington Square, across the Hampstead road, round Mornington Crescent, up Stan-hope Place, along Stanhope Street, into Edward Street, up Edward Street into Cumberland Market, Munster Street, and Ernest Street, to the back door of the station—Phoebe Glue followed us to the station—we were put behind an iron bar and searched, and the sergeant began writing something down in a book—I do not know what he wrote down—I asked Barry what he took us up for, and he told me to hold my noise—I first heard what I was charged with next morning, when we were brought out of the cells to go to Marylebone—I heard it from one of the sergeants—I do not know his name—I saw Dye searched at the station—Hayes held up a knife when he was searched and said, "Here is a pretty thing"—Dye said, "That is my knife," and I said, "Yes, I sharpened it for you yester
<lb/>day"—we had been in the station about five minutes before the knife was produced—I did not see Hayes or Barry in the Stationers' Arms—I never</p>
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<p>was in the house—I know Stanley, the officer of the police-court—I saw him here last session when the charge against Barry was being tried—I went out with him from the other court to a public-house—I said I wanted to go out and have something to drink, and he said he would go with me and another gentleman—we had some cooper and pork pie—I believe there was a few words between us while we were having it—I cannot exactly remember what it was—I know I said it was a scandalous affair to take us and charge us with burglary, and we knew nothing about it—Stanley merely said, "Yes" and "No"—I might have said a few more words, but I cannot remember them—I did not say I should be glad if the policemen got of—I said I should not care whether they got off or not, as long it was all dropped, as I was tired of it—nothing was said about "trick" and "tie" that I am aware of—I do not remember whether any
<lb/>thing was said about Mr. Ivory.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you mean you do not recollect whether any
<lb/>thing was said about Mr. Ivory, or that nothing was said?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not think there was—I would not say there was, and I would not say there was not—I did not say if anything happened to me, the same ought to happen to Mr. Ivory—I do not believe I spoke about Mr. Ivory—I will swear I did not—I am quite certain—I cannot answer for other persons, I did not—I am quite sure I have accurately given the dif
<lb/>ferent streets through which we were taken—I have a perfect recol
<lb/>lection of them—I did not knock anybody down or strike anybody—I wanted to fight—I did not forget that—I spoke about it when the counsel examined me—I remember it perfectly well—it never went out of my mind—I am quite sure about that—I said that a party told me I wanted to fight—I did not remember till I was told of it—I might have forgotten till I was reminded of it—I did forget it—I go by what I was told, that I wanted to fight—I was told so by Wright—I did not re
<lb/>member until I was told—if I swore I did I was confused for the moment—I did not exactly know what I was answering—I should not have thought about it if I had not been told—it is very seldom I want to fight—I had a shilling when I started from home that night—I think it was on Thursday night—I had not had my wages—my wages are 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—I had nothing at the station-house—I spent the whole of the shilling in drink and tobacco—I was to be paid my wages on Saturday—I should have no money until then—I could get a little of father if I wanted it—he gene
<lb/>rally gives me money when I ask him—I have a mother, and brothers and sisters—I am not generally wandering about the streets as I was on this night—it was unusual for me to be out so late—they knew I should be out as late—I told them I should be a little late that night, and I bor
<lb/>rowed the key of mother—I did not tell her where I was going to—I did not mention that to anybody—I told her I was going out—I am eighteen years old—mother does not always ask me where I go—she did not that evening—I had been in about a quarter past ten the night before—Dye lived in Bayham Place—I saw him run down King Street—he would get into Eversholt Street by going down King Street, down Bayham Street, and round Crowndale Terrace—he would not have to pass his own house, he would go near it—instead of going to his own house, he came into Eversholt Street, where he was taken into custody—I cannot account for that—he ran down King Street because the constable poked Blackburn in the back with his umbrella—Blackburn started running, and we all started running—I ran in the direction of Eversholt Street—I did not</p>
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<p>expect to see Dye again in Eversholt Street—I was not surprised to see him—it was nothing uncommon to see him—as far as I know, that was the first time a man was poked in the back with an umbrella by a policeman—I cannot answer for Blackburn, and I shall not—I have not often been to Dye's house—I know where it is—it is three or four hun
<lb/>dred yards from the place where he was taken into custody, and where I was taken is about two hundred yards from my house—when I ran I meant to go home; I was prevented by being taken into custody—I was not run
<lb/>ning at the time I was taken into custody—I stopped on seeing Dye taken into custody by two men—I had not been running up to that time—we had been stopping at the corner of Eversholt Street, bidding Blackburn good night—Blackburn did not come back again—he went home, he went down King Street with Dye—he lives up Kentish Town—Eversholt Street was not in his way to Kentish Town, nor King Street.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When did you first see any of your friends after you had been taken into cus
<lb/>tody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Next morning, at Marylebone Police-court, I saw my mother—I there heard the evidence of the officers, and heard for the first time that we were charged with attempting to commit a burglary in Gloucester Crescent—I first heard that we were charged with burglary at Albany Street Station—I heard next morning that we were charged with burglary at a house in Gloucester Crescent, at Albany Street Station—that was before I saw my mother—I heard the officers swear to having taken me into custody there—I did not say that I had plenty of witnesses to prove that I had never been there the whole evening, because I was so confused at being taken up for, burglary, never having been locked up before, and I thought it very hard, and I could not speak; I tried to and I could not, my mouth came regularly parched and I could not speak—I did say it was false—I should have said a little more, but I could not go on with it, being so confused, and my mouth was so parched—I stopped mid
<lb/>way in my speech—Dye said nothing—he will be better able than I to tell you whether his mouth was parched—if I had not been prevented by my mouth being parched I should have told the story as I have to-day—I was simply prevented from doing so from that cause—I really mean to tell the jury so—I did not have time to tell my mother, I was drove in like a dog—we were handcuffed together—my mother was sitting as I went by the door, and she said something to me, but I did not understand her, I had not got time as I walked past her—she did not ask me for the key—I said, "I have done nothing"—that was all I said to my mother—that was all I had a chance to say—I was prevented continuing the conversa
<lb/>tion by Hayes and Barry—they pushed me in like a dog—Mr. Ivory is my master—he does not keep an establishment himself—he is a piece
<lb/>work master—he works in one of Mr. Brooks's shops—I call him my master, and Mr. Brooks's servant—I don't know whether he is paying the expenses of these proceedings—I am not paying them—I don't know who is, I have never asked—I should think the chief one would be Mr. Ivory, because he was the first party that took it up—I do not know how soon he took it up—it was in the House of Detention—a young chap, named George Scott, first saw me in the House of Detention—he has been a sailor—he is not here—he has nothing to do with defending me—my brother was the next person I saw, he is older than me—I saw my solicitor at Marylebone Police-court for the first time—I had seen Mr. Ivory, he came to me in the House of Detention—I told him the truth—I told him what I have told to-day—that was after my brother had been, the third or fourth day after</p>
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<p>I was taken, in the next week—I have got back the latchkey that I borrowed of my mother—it was in my pocket when I was at the station—it was taken from me, I am sure of that—the "Slips" is about three hun
<lb/>dred or four hundred yards from the house in Gloucester Crescent—I used to be there twice or three times a week, but I have not been since the trial—they are green parts of the park that lead down to the canal—I don't believe that part of the park shuts all night, nor Gloucester Grate—there are young ladies as well as young gentlemen there—I don't know whether they are in equal numbers, they might be, I can't say—Dye used to go there—I did not make acquaintance with the young ladies—very little—I only knew one, a girl of the name of Rachel—that is not the person they call
<hi rend="italic">Scotchy</hi>—I don't know who
<hi rend="italic">Scotchy</hi> Is—I have heard the name, but I don't know the girl—I don't know the girl who was there with Blackburn—I don't associate with any of the girls—I knew Phoebe Glue by sight, seeing her with Dye, that's all—Dye associates with her—I went there with young chaps the same as myself—sometimes we practise running—I get off work at 7 o'clock—we go to the "Slips" to practise running from about eight till about nine o'clock or half-past—it is very seldom I am out as late as twelve o'clock—I am sometimes—the young ladies do not practise run
<lb/>ning with me or the others—I never have them ruuning about after me—sometimes we have the boxing-gloves up there, only for amusement, and we practise running—I don't know what becomes of the girls—I have no notion, they are away from us—I can't tell what they are doing—I know they are there in the park—when we have finished the race we do not come back to the girls, we go and sit down on a seat—there is a seat there that we generally sit on—it is away from them, you can be—they come up and speak to young chaps that are there, that is about it—I suppose we get three or four runs of an evening—I have seen chaps go out with the girls, I mean go down the park and out of the gate, and I have seen them walk about up there—the light is the same as in all other parks—I have lost sight of them occasionally, and after a short time they have come back again—that has been while I have been on the seat—Phoebe Glue was the friend of Dye—when I have seen them walk together they have always gone towards the gate—they have not come back together—the girl has not come back at all—I do not make these girls presents—I never give anything to any of them—I have never had anything from them, not at any time, I swear that—I have never seen Dye have anything from them—I told you before I know one by name, and only one, that is Rachel—I don't know what has become of her, I have not heard—she was not my friend—I knew her by name, but not to walk with her—she walked with a young chap what goes up there, who works in the pianoforte line—I don't know his name—he does not work in the same place with me—I know what they call him, Long Charlie—I don't know where he is now—I saw him on Saturday night in Camden Town, and spoke to him—I have not heard that he has been out of the way at all—I don't know Exmouth Street—I have never slept out of my mother's house—I have been away of a Saturday night, that was when I was in a fishing club and went out fishing—the club was held at the Seymour Arms, Seymour Street—I was never at Exmouth Street—I went to fish at Elstree sometimes, and some-times at Watford—I never slept in any house with Dye and Glue and an
<lb/>other girl—I am quite sure of that—I don't know a person named Apple
<lb/>ton who used to work in the same place with me, and who used to go to the "Slips" regularly—I have no idea who you mean—I know that a man</p>
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<p>with a fire escape is stationed in Eversholt Street—I did not notice him on this night—I did not notice the fire escape—I know where it is gen
<lb/>erally stationed—it is about two hundred and sixty yards from the place where I was taken up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was this fishing club in London?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It is broken up now—it was held at the Seymour Arms public-house, in Seymour Street, Euston Square—we used to pay so much a week all round, and have a van and two horses, and a driver, and start from there about twelve o'clock at night, and get down to Elstree by daylight to fish—I live with my father and mother at No. 15, Johnson Street, Somer's Town, and have done so about two or three years—my father is a carpenter in the employ
<lb/>ment of the London and North Western Railway Company at Euston Square, and has been for thirty years—there is no truth in the suggestion that I ever slept at any private house with the persons that have been named, or any one else—it is false—the "Slips" is a broad plat of grass in the Regent's Park, it is not a secluded little spot, but a large portion of the park, it goes half-way round the three-mile park—I don't remember that Rachel was there on this night, I could not say—Long Charlie is a companion of mine, he is a very respectable young chap—he was not there that night—we lads used to be in the "Slips" for an hour or so of a summer's evening, playing at boxing, racing, and so forth—I saw my mother at the police-station as I was going in, at the entrance—there is a little door, and we had to walk in—me and Dye were handcuffed together—I did not see any others marched in along with us—Hayes and Barry were following us up close behind—that was the only opportunity I had of saying anything to my mother—Dye and me were both handcuffed together.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who is George Scott, who you say was the first person that came to see you in the House of Detention?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He has been a sailor—my mother came to see me—they kept her away as long as they could—she came two days before I came out—that would be about the Wednesday—I think Scott came to me on the Saturday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-155" type="surname" value="DYE"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-155" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DYE</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 18A, Bayham Place, in the neighbourhood of Camden Town, with my father and mother—at the time this cir
<lb/>cumstance took place I was in the employment of Mr. Burton, a plumber, in Frederick Street, Hampstead Road—I had been in his employment about two years—I know Pearce—I remember the night of Thursday, 30th August—I was in the "Slips" in the Regent's Park, about half-past seven o'clock, with Thomas Pearce, George Potts, William Gregory, Leonard Blackburn, and Phoebe Glue—it was about half-past eight o'clock, as near as I can speak, when we left the "Slips"—we went from there to the Regalia public-house, in Augusta Street—I was in the habit of walking out with Phoebe Glue—she did not go to the Regalia with me, Potts did, and Gregory, Blackburn, and Pearce—after we left the Regalia we came back to the York and Albany again—I know Gloucester Crescent—I was not at all in Gloucester Crescent on the night of 30th August—I was not in the garden of No. 63 with Pearce—the only time that Pearce and I parted company was when I and Blackburn ran down King Street, that was about one minute, with that exception we were together all the even
<lb/>ing up to the time of being taken into custody—when we left the Regalia we went back to the York and Albany, and Phoebe Glue rejoined us there—when we left the York and Albany we went down Park Street, before that we went into Smith's at the corner of Grove Street, that was</p>
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<p>between twelve and one o'clock—when we left Smith's we went down High Street, Camden Town, and then into Eversholt Street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see either Hayes or Barry that night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, we saw them at the corner of Warren Street, where there is a public-house called the Stationers' Arms—they were both together—that was about five or ten minutes after one o'clock—we had been drinking beer at different public-houses—we saw some young men standing at the corner of Warren Street, by the Stationers' Arms—Pearce wanted to fight with them or something—Hayes and Barry did not do anything to us there—we went down High Street after that—Hayes and Barry followed us—one of them had an umbrella in his hand—they were in plain clothes—one had a light coat on and billycock hat—one of them, I don't know which, struck Blackburn with the umbrella, and said, "
<hi rend="italic">Sling your dannel</hi>"—he poked me in the back with it—we were looking at a man in a fit—we then crossed over the road, and they followed us, and me and Blackburn ran down Bayham Street—the others went straight down High Street—I met them again at the bottom of High Street, that is opposite Eversholt Street—there was me, Gregory, Pearce, Blackburn, and Phoebe Glue there—Potts had left us—we went to Mr. Gates, the chemist's shop at the corner of Eversholt Street—when we were standing at the chemist's shop Blackburn said, "Here are the two men coming down High Street; I will see where they go"—they called a cab and got into it and turned round again, that was while we were standing at the corner of High Street—I saw Hayes and Barry get into the cab—Blackburn went home then, he bade us all good night—that was after I saw the men get into the cab—we remained at the corner two or three minutes after they got into the cab, and then after that Blackburn left us—Gregory, Pearce, Glue, and I went up Eversholt Street—when we were walking up Eversholt Street I ran on ahead to make water—I was turning round the Mews to go up against a dead wall, and one of the policemen, Hayes, knocked me down—they picked me up and ran across the road and took Pearce.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you mean that Hayes and Barry picked you up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-156" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-156" type="given" value="MONTAGU"/>MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where were you struck?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Under the ear; it was the one in the light coat that struck me, and he said, "I have got one; we may as well have another, collar him"—when that was said Pearce was over on the other side of the road coming down with Gregory and Phoebe Glue—the other officer then took Pearce—they said to Gregory that he had better be off, or else they would have him too, and he went away—Phoebe Glue followed us to the station-house—we went from Eversholt Street through Lidlington Place, Harrington Square, across the Hampstead Road, and round Mornington Crescent, till we came to Stanhope Place—we passed some iron posts just before you enter Har
<lb/>rington Square; they stood there for a minute, as if to consider which way they would take us—the nearest point that I was to Gloucester Crescent that night was coming from the York and Albany down High Street—when we got to the station they put us in a little place and searched us—I had a knife about me; that was taken from me by Hayes in the station when they searched me—when it was taken from me I said that was mine.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you say it was taken out of your pocket?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-157" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-157" type="given" value="MONTAGU"/>MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you said that the knife was yours did Pearce say anything?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He said, "Yes, I sharpened it for you</p>
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<p>yesterday"—I did not hear Hayes or Barry say anything before I said that was my knife—I asked Hayes what we were charged with—he said, "Hold your noise"—I asked him again, and he said, "You will know in the morning"—I first heard in the morning what we were charged with when they brought us out of the cells; the charge was breaking into a house, burglary—we were then taken before the Magistrate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> The knife you say was taken out of your pocket?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I said it was my knife, because he took it from me and held it up—Pearce had sharpened it for me where he works, at Mr. Brooks's—I do not work there, I was not there at all—he sharpened it on a grindstone, that they have there; he told me that he had sharpened it there, I had given it to him to be sharpened on the night previous—I gave it him in the "Slips," I was cutting a piece of wood, and he said it was not sharp, and he would sharpen it for me—he gave it me back the next night when I met him, in the Regalia—Potts was with us when I was cutting the piece of wood—Phoebe was not there—I don't know whether the knife is here, it was left in the court the last time we were here, it was produced on the last occasion—I don't know where it is now—I don't know who took it away—I gave it into court to be looked at, and I have never seen it since—we were taken before the Magistrate at Marylebone—I had not seen anybody before I went before the Magistrate the first time—I heard the officers swear before the Magistrate that I was taken in Gloucester Crescent—they asked if I had anything to say in answer to the charge—I said nothing—I did not know what to say—I cannot explain why I did not say that I was in Eversholt Street and these policeman laid hold of me, and that I was never in Gloucester Crescent—they asked if I had anything to say, and I said, "No."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Why did you say "No?" Why not say, "I was not there at all, I was in Eversholt Street, and was never near Gloucester Crescent at all?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The witnesses had said so before, the witnesses for us—they said that we were in Eversholt Street; I mean before the Magistrate—the witnesses for us were examined before the Magistrate—I know what I am saying; our witnesses were examined before the Magistrate at Marylebone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What, the first time you were there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, not the first time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were they ever examined?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> They were put in the witness-box—I heard the officers swear that we were taken in Gloucester Crescent, and that one of us dropped a knife, which he picked up in Gloucester Crescent—I can give no reason why, when I was asked what I had to say in answer to that, I said nothing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Can you give no explanation of any kind? You know the police say, "We took this young man Dye into custody in Gloucester Crescent." Why did you not say that was not true, that you were taken into custody in Eversholt Street? Now, answer. You must understand me, and be able to give one, if there is one single word of truth in the story you have told about being in Eversholt Street, if it is not an entire falsehood—how came you not to say so at the police-court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was told not to say anything, by some one outside, I don't know his name—some one out-side told me to say nothing; I swear that—it was some one I don't know—we were pushed into the police-court by the constable, I don't mean by Barry; I don't know exactly about being pushed in like dogs; we were taken into a room there; we were not pushed much; we were not pushed at all, we walked in—we were not pushed in—it was when we were</p>
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<p>coming up that somebody told me to say nothing, just before I got into the room where they wait, just as I got into the station, as I was walking into the room—I had never been before a Magistrate before—the person said, "Don't say anything if they ask you if you have got anything to say"—I and Pearce were together at the time; I don't know whether Pearce heard it or not, he was close to me, we were a little way apart, we were handcuffed together—it was a man who said this, he whispered it, he was alongside of me—he did not exactly whisper it, he spoke loud enough for me to hear him, I don't know whether anybody else could hear him; he spoke close to my ear—I did not say anything to it, I walked on—I looked at him—I should know him again if I saw him—I have not seen him since—I had never seen him before to my recollection, he was a per
<lb/>fect stranger to me—I did not exactly attend to what he said; I obeyed him because he told me to say nothing (I am eighteen years of age)—that was my only reason for saying nothing; I swear that—I did not know him, he was a perfect stranger.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You said just now that you had not seen anybody before you went before the Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not any of my friends, that was what I meant.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You have said, have you not, that you were very sorry you had been a witness against the policemen?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I have never said so, nothing of the kind—I am quite sure about that—I was going home on this night—I and Phoebe Glue keep company—she is not a prostitute—I go out with her sometimes—she works at home, I think, with her mother—I was going to see Pearce home first—I ran down King Street because the policeman was knocking us about, and I wanted to get rid of them—I did not go at once to my own home, because I wanted to wish the others good night—I knew they would be in Ever
<lb/>sholt Street, because they went down Camden Town—we knew we should get round as soon as they did, because we ran—I passed close by my own house and went to Eversholt Street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What do you do in the "Slips" of a night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Sometimes we have a game of "foot it," flying over one another's backs; sometimes we have the boxing gloves; sometimes we have running—the girls come there sometimes, not always; I don't know about always, I am not always up there—I have been there without any being there, without any being in my company—there are girls, strangers, walking up and down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When this person spoke to you at the police-court, and told you not to say anything if you were asked, who did you suppose he was?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I don't know who he was, I thought he was some friend of mine, somebody that knew me, or something—I did not know what he was—he was dressed in cord trousers, something like a working man, and a tall black hat, and a kind of dark coat—because he advised me to say nothing I thought it was good advice and acted upon it, not having seen my friends at that time—I had never been in a police-court before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see anybody else besides that person?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—there were more persons in the court—I did not see Pearce's mother—I do not know whether she was there—I know her when I see her—Pearce wanted to fight somebody that night—I wanted to fight, too, with some of the men at the corner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-158" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-158" type="surname" value="GLUE"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-158" type="given" value="PHOEBE"/>PHOEBE GLUE</persName> </hi>. I live in Upper Fitzroy Place with my mother, who is a laundress—I assist her—I know the lads Dye and Pearce—I have been in the habit of walking with Dye, and on Summer evenings going into the</p>
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<p>Regent's Park to what is called the "Slips"—on Thursday evening, 30th August, I was there, and met the lads there about half-past seven—I stayed with them about three-quarters of an hour—we came out, and I left them at the corner of Augusta Street, and went to my brother's, in Priory Street, Camden Town; that was about nine o'clock, I should think—I saw them again about half-past eleven at the York and Albany, and from that time until they were taken into custody I was not out of their company—I don't know exactly where Gloucester Crescent is—I was in Eversholt Street when these lads were taken into custody—as we went along Pearce wanted to fight Dye at the corner of Warren Street—I got them across the road, and we got a little further down by a jeweller's shop, there was a man in a fit, they went across the road, and just as they got across two young men, I did not know whether they were policemen or not, hit Dye with an umbrella, and they ran across and ran them up King Street—I did not run—Pearce and Dye ran up King Street and round Bayham Street—the one with the umbrella in his hand had a round hat on with a light coat, and the other was dressed in black, but I don't know whether he had anything in his hand—after that, when they got to the Southampton Arms, we were all saying "Good night," and I saw these two men get into a hansom cab, and then I went with Pearce, Dye, and Gregory, and got along till we got to Eversholt Street, and as we got to Eversholt Street there were these two men standing there, and Dye took and ran over to the mews opposite, and one of them ran after him and knocked him down and catched hold of him and said to the other, "I have got one; you take another, and we shall have a pair of them," and he took Pearce and left me and Gregory behind—he sent Gregory off home—he said, "You had better be off home, or else I shall have you," and he swore at him—Gregory then went away—I followed Pearce and Dye to the station, to the back door in Little Albany Street—I did not follow them into the station—they slammed the door in my face.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you mean that you gain a livelihood by assisting your mother in the laundry?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, that is my only mode of gaining a livelihood—I go to the "Slips" to see Dye—I don't know whether Pearce had a young woman who took an equal interest in him—I only know about my own case—I don't know exactly who was Pearce's young woman—I don't know her name or what they call her, there are so many names—we used to go out with a good many—he did have
<hi rend="italic">Scotchy</hi>—I don't know that she has disappeared—I never heard that she was in a little trouble—I know Rachel, Rachel and Scotchy are two different persons—after I got back to Pearce I did not lose sight of him at all till he was taken into custody—Pearce wanted to fight Dye at the corner of Warren Street and High Street; they were both a little drunk—Pearce did not strike Dye—there were a few words—Pearce asked Dye if he would like to have a turn up with him—he did not double his fists—he did not want to fight any
<lb/>body but Dye—he never offered to fight anybody but Dye—I am quite sure about that—the policeman hit Dye with the umbrella—he did not give him a poke—he hit him across the shoulders with it—he did not hit anybody else—that was what made Dye run away—I can't tell what made him come back again—he came round by the Southampton Arms.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say you went to see your brother?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, that is in Randall Street, Camden Town; that would be 300 yards or more from where I parted from them—when I got there I found he had left, and I returned back again—I did not come back to them exactly, I came back</p>
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<p>again, but I did not go to them, I went down High Street and went home to tell my mother the news that they had removed—I wanted to have some of the washing from there—I went to my mother's before I went to the York and Albany, and I was back by half-past eleven exactly—that was not the account I gave when I was here before—I said I took a walk down High Street, and went home to my mother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What you said before was that you went for a walk, and you remained taking the walk till half-past eleven?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but I walked on home—I did not stop at home—I came out again and went up to them—that was about half-past eleven—we had made an agreement to meet again at the York and Albany.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-159" type="surname" value="GREGORY"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-159" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GREGORY</persName> </hi>. I live at 26, Judd Street, and am in the employ
<lb/>ment of Mr. Meadow, of Parson's Street, Leicester Square, a pianoforte manufacturer—I know Dye, Pearce, Glue, Potts, and Blackburn—I was with them on the night of the 30th August—I first met them in the park, at a place called the "Slips," about eight o'clock, and I was with them up to the time they were taken into custody in Eversholt Street—they were never out of my sight—they were not in Gloucester Crescent that night—I saw Hayes and Barry that evening—I first saw them in Camden Town, outside the public-house at the corner of Warren Street—that was soon after one, outside the Stationers' Arms—one of them had a light coat on—Pearce and Dye had been having a drop—there were two or three young men standing outside, at the corner of Warren Street, and Pearce and Dye wanted to fight them—they were going to fight—Grocer I believe the young man's name is—Grocer and the others did not form part of our party, I never saw them before—when I left the Stationers' Arms I came down Camden Town, High Street, Tottenham Court Road—the two constables followed us—they followed Blackburn across the road—we saw a man in a fit—we went across to see it, and when we got there the two constables were there still, and they said, "You had better
<hi rend="italic">sling</hi> your
<hi rend="italic">dannel</hi>"—they followed Blackburn and me across the road—we went down the road, and they followed us all the way down to the Southampton Arms—they had an umbrella, and they hit Blackburn—they did not touch me—they followed us to the Southampton Arms—a hansom cab then came up, and I saw them get into the cab—I was then at the corner of Eversholt Street, at the doctor's shop—Dye and Blackburn ran round the back streets; me, Pearce, and Phoebe Glue came on down the road—we all met again at the corner of Eversholt Street—there Blackburn bade us good night, and left us, and Pearce, Dye, and Glue and I went down Eversholt Street, towards home—when we got about half-way down Eversholt Street Dye ran on ahead—we followed him up, and when we got near to him he was knocked down by one of the police—when we got up to him one of the police picked him up, and caught hold of him and came across the road, and the one that had Dye said, "Collar the other; we may as well have a couple," and they took Pearce, and told me to be off home, or they would have me—I went home—I left Glue following them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I cannot make out about this cab; where was it the policemen called the cab and got into it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> They called it at the Southampton Arms, that is at the corner of Mornington Crescent and Southampton Street, where the toll-gate used to be, near High Street—there is not a cabstand there, that is up higher, more towards Park Street—this cab was passing accidentally, coming up from Tottenham Court Road way, and they called it, and got into it, and turned round, and drove</p>
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<p>again towards Tottenham Court Road—they must have gone round the square and come out in Eversholt Street—if we had gone in the opposite direction, up Camden Town, they would not have met us—we went down Eversholt Street, and they went round to meet us—I did not know they were policemen—I did not see how far they went in the cab—Phoebe Glue was with us when Pearce and Dye wanted to fight Grocer—Pearce did not want to fight Dye, that I am aware of—I went to the court at Mary
<lb/>lebone next day—I knew my friends would be brought up, at least I thought so—I was there soon after ten—I know the time they take them down—I went alone—I can't say whether I met anybody I knew there—I might have met somebody there—I cannot recollect whether I did or not—I was in work at the time, but I was not at work that day—I came home, and went down again afterwards—I don't know that I met any one when I went there at ten—I can't swear I did not—I know. Mrs. Pearce—I met her there—I might have had a few words with her—I don't know whether I did or not; I can't say—I can't recollect whether I had a few words with anybody else—I waited there a little time, and saw them coming down—I was outside the police-court—I saw them go in—I did not follow them in—they would not allow me in the court, and I did not see any more of them; I did not go in at all—I went in in the afternoon—I did not see any of my friends there in the morning, that I am aware of—I can't say whether I did or not—I went in the afternoon to see them. come out—Pearce's mother was there then, and Potts and Blackburn—me, Potts, and Blackburn went together, and Phoebe Glue was down there, nobody else that I am aware of—I very seldom frequent the "Slips;" I do sometimes—I do not know this house in Gloucester Crescent—I know Gloucester Crescent—I did not hear that there had been a good many houses broken into in that neighbourhood, or that there were any suspicions about burglaries—I never heard it mentioned—I never had any conversa
<lb/>tion with Pearce or Dye about such a thing—I had not heard that any had been committed in the neighbourhood.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-160" type="surname" value="POTTS"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-160" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE POTTS</persName> </hi>. I reside at 18, Cumberland Market, with my mother—my father was an umbrella maker, and my mother carries on the business—I repair the umbrellas for her, and assist her in conducting the business—I know Dye and Pearce, Gregory and Blackburn—I have known them two or three years—Blackburn I have known five or six years—I know Phoebe Glue by sight; I am not intimately acquainted with her—I know the "Slips" in the Regent's Park—on the evening of the 30th August I was there—I saw Gregory and Pearce there, Dye, and several others—we stopped there till a little after nine—I think Pearce and Dye, and several others, I cannot exactly recollect who, then went with me to the Regalia tavern in Augusta Street—we stopped there till about twenty minutes, past eleven—I think it was about half-past nine when we went there—Gregory, Pearce, and Dye, and one or two others, left with me—we then went to the York and Albany—we left the York and Albany at twelve o'clock, when the house shut up—they were closing as we left—I then went to Smith's, in Park Street, with Pearce and Dye—we stayed there till about five or six minutes to one—they did not come out with me—I left them there—from the time I saw Pearce and Dye in the "Slips" till I left them at Smith's, at five minutes to one, they were never in Gloucester Crescent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-161" type="surname" value="BLACKBURN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-161" type="given" value="LEONARD"/>LEONARD BLACKBURN</persName> </hi>. I live at Wellington Terrace, Kentish Town—at the time in question I was a clerk in the Langley coal office, King</p>
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<p>Street, Cheapside—I am not there now—I was at the time I was examined on the last trial—I have known Pearce and Dye for some time, and have been in the habit of going to the Regent's Park of an evening—on 30th August I met them about eight o'clock, and after being at the "Slips" some time we went to the Regalia—there was no female with them that I saw before we went to the Regalia, not while I was there—we remained at the Regalia till about twenty minutes past eleven o'clock, and then went to the York and Albany—I know the Stationers' Arms, at the corner of Warren Street—I was there about half-past one o'clock—I had no watch with me—there were some young men standing at the corner, and we wanted to have a fight with some of them—there was not a fight—I saw the two constables, Hayes and another man, when we were going down the road—they followed behind us—we got to a disturbance there, and they shoved us as we were going down the road from the Stationers' Arms—they shoved me and Gregory—we were standing at the crowd, and I said to Gregory, "What is the matter? Let us have a look," and the constable Hayes came behind me and said, "
<hi rend="italic">Sling your dannel</hi>"—so we went across the road, and Barry came behind me and shoved me with his umbrella—me and Dye then ran down King Street—Pearce ran straight on—one of the constables had on a light coat and an umbrella—the other one had a black coat on—we met again at Trotman's, the perambulator maker, at the bottom of High Street, and while we were standing there we saw the two con
<lb/>stables coming down on the opposite side—there was a hansom cab coming in the direction from the Tottenham Court Road—I bid Pearce and them good night at the corner of Eversholt Street—Potts, Gregory, Phoebe Glue, Dye, and Pearce were there; not when I left them, they were with us all the evening—there was only Gregory and Phoebe Glue with them when I left them at the corner of Eversholt Street—I know Gloucester Crescent—during the whole time I was in company with these lads I was not with them at Gloucester Crescent, or nearer to it than the York and Albany.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you go next morning to Marylebone?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, in the afternoon—I am often in these public-houses I have spoken of, and Pearce and Dye too with me—Phoebe Glue is not often with us—some-times she has been with us—I am at the "Slips" about once or twice a week—I had not heard at this time that a good many burglaries had been committed, nothing of the kind—I heard no talk of it in the public-houses.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-162" type="surname" value="OSLER"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-162" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE OSLER</persName> </hi>. I am a grainer, and reside at Kentish Town—on the night of the 30th August I was at the Stationers' Arms public-house—I know the defendants Hayes and Barry—it was a quarter past twelve o'clock when I was at the Stationers' Arms—I cannot say exactly the time I remained there—I think it was about half an hour—we left some time before one o'clock—I saw both Hayes and Barry inside the Stationers' Arms, one had a light coat on, the other had a black coat—they were standing at the side bar at the farther end—there were glasses standing before them—I did not take particular notice what they had in them—I remember being outside the Stationers' Arms when some boys came up and insulted me—they were Pearce and Dye—they pushed against me and pushed me into the road—at that time the constables were standing in Warren Street—Pearce and Dye passed us and passed again and went up Warren Street, and I believe they spoke to the policemen, and said something to them to insult them—then they came back and went down the Hampstead Road towards Mornington Crescent—that would be in the direction of</p>
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<p>Eversholt Street—I did not see what became of the constables after I left—I saw them in Warren Street and then I went home—when I left I left the constables in Warren Street—the boys passed me and I went away directly—Pearce, I think, who wore a white scarf, challenged all three of us to fight—I do not know which one it was, it was one of the two—I did not know them before—they were entire strangers—I had seen them, but not to know them personally—I had never spoken to them before that night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were you examined at the Clerkenwell Sessions?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I then stated that the landlady at the Stationers' Arms had served me—I took the eldest barmaid to be Mrs. Hughes—she was the one I took to be the landlady—I called her the landlady—I find out now that she is not—I have since learnt that the landlady was not in the house that night—I had not been frequently to the Stationers' Arms previous to this—I have been occasionally at the same house when I leave business—Pearce's brother came to me about this matter on the Saturday night—I do not know how he came to come to me—Grocer brought him to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You were not only examined at the Middlesex Sessions, but at this court on the last occasion, I believe?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-163" type="surname" value="GROCER"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-163" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS GROCER</persName> </hi>. I live at Kentish Town, and carry on the business of a master grainer—I know the Stationers' Arms public-house, and some-times go in there of a night—it is some little distance from where I live—Osler is a friend of mine, and lives and works with me—I was at the Stationers' Arms on the night of 30th August—I went there about a quarter past twelve, and remained till the house closed, within two or three minutes of one o'clock—while there I saw Hayes and Barry inside the house—they were there till it closed—I saw them there from a quarter past twelve till the house closed—they were there when I went in—they were drinking at the bar—I could not swear as to how they were dressed—they were in plain clothes—they came out at the same time as I did, because the house closed—we all came out together—when we came out two young chaps, Pearce and Dye, came running up and pushed against us and wanted to fight us—we would not have anything to do with them, and they left us and went into Warren Street—the constables followed them—they left Warren Street and went towards the Southampton; then I lost sight of them after that—I know the lads by sight, but 'never to speak to them—I never knew their names until I was at Marylebone Police-station—I went there to appear for Pearce and Dye when they were taken for burglary—I cannot now say when that was—I really forget it—I believe it was two or three days after—I went into the court, but I never said any
<lb/>thing—no professional gentleman appeared for them then to my knowledge—I was not examined as a witness—I cannot say the reason of that—I did not hear anybody say anything about witnesses being called.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How soon was it after you were at the public-house that you were at the police-court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot say—I do not think I was ever in a police-court before—it might have been a week after, but I cannot say whether it was or not—it was not the next day—I can
<lb/>not tell whether it was the next day or a week after.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know Osler?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he was with meat the Southampton Arms, and Wright and Bryant.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How came you to go to the police-court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was sub
<lb/>poenaed—I was fetched to go—Mr. Pearce, the prisoner's brother, asked me—he said there was a young chap there, a grainer, a paperhanger, and a</p>
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<p>waiter at the Bedford—that was me, Osler, and Wright, and we were foraged out and had to appear—I did not know their names until I went to the police-court—when I was at the police-court I believe these two young chaps were committed for trial—I did not see any witnesses exa
<lb/>mined—I was there till the case was over—it might have been a quarter of an hour, I cannot say to a few minutes—the boys were admitted to bail when I was there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-164" type="surname" value="WRIGHT"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-164" type="given" value="JOHN THOMAS"/>JOHN THOMAS WRIGHT</persName> </hi>. I live at 98, High Street, Camden Town, exactly opposite the Stationers' Arms—I work with my father, a paper-hanger—he carries on that business at that place—I remember the night between the 30th and 31st August—I was at the Stationers' Arms—I saw Hayes there and somebody talking to him—I believe it was Barry, but I cannot swear to him—I recognise Hayes—I came out of the house just as it closed—Mr. Hughes said it was time to shut up, and we walked out—I do not know whether these two men came out directly after or not—I stayed outside for some considerable time—I did not notice them out-side—while standing there I saw a party run up Warren Street, and I said to a party who was with me, "Let us go up and see what the row is "—one of the parties came up to me and said, "Do you want to fight?" and I said, "No, thank you, good night," and walked away—I left the boys there and went back to the place where we were talking—I believe these boys were the parties who were charged with burglary, Pearce and Dye—I should know them if I saw them—I saw them hero last month.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What were you doing at the Stationers' Arms, drinking or playing billiards?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I called in there and had a glass of ale after coming from work—I was not playing at billiards there at all—that was at another place—I was about twenty minutes or half an hour at the Stationers' Arms—I am positive I saw Hayes there, and I am certain of the time—I have never said that the landlady was there—I might have called at the Stationers' Arms since this affair—I do not know whether I have—I do not recollect—I might have called there for money—I did not call there to see Mrs. Hughes, the landlady—I recollect calling there the night that we were here before, and having a glass of ale—I did not go to Mrs. Hughes and say, "You remember the night of 30th August last when Hayes and Barry were in your house, and you spoke to them"—I could not, because I knew she was out of town on 30th August—I did not say that that I recollect—I could not swear it, but I do not believe I did—I would not take my oath on it—she did not say, "They were not here; at any rate, I was not here to see them, I was at Ramsgate"—I will swear that positively—nothing of the kind—she did not mention anything of that to me—I called for a glass of sherry and something to eat—no con
<lb/>versation passed that I recollect about the case—we went there and had supper after leaving here last sessions—no such conversation took place that night—I did not have any conversation with her, I only asked her how she was—I have been there several times—I used to go there at six in the morning when our men went up to work—I do not remember saying what you put to me on any occasion—I will swear I did not—I do not remember saying it to her—I cannot swear I did not exactly—I will swear I did not as I remember—I knew she was at Ramsgate at the time because she wished me good bye, and said that she was going, and my brother was stopping with her in the same house where she lodged—she did not, to my recollection, tell me that my brother was there with her—I knew he was—she did not produce her hotel bill to me to show me she was away on the 30th—I swear that positively.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What time did you go to the Stationers' Arms that night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> As far as I can recollect, it was about half-past twelve, but I was in there twenty minutes, and that was the time they shut up—Grocer was in there at the time—I was by myself when I went in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-165" type="surname" value="BRYANT"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-165" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BRYANT</persName> </hi>. I am a French polisher, and reside in a turning out of College Street—at the time of the last trial I was living at No. 10, Paul's Terrace—I know the Stationers' Arms public-house at the corner of. Warren Street—I was there on the night of the 30th August—I saw several there that I knew—I saw the defendant Hayes there that night—I can swear I saw him there—I should know Barry if I was to see him—I can't exactly say where Hayes was standing, he had his back towards us—he had his back to the counter—I was there about three-quarters of an hour—a man named Reed was with me—when I left I left the two constables in there—I left about a quarter past twelve, according to the clock—the constables were in private clothes—I can't say exactly how they were dressed—I was examined as a witness when Pearce and Dye were at Clerkenwell—I was not examined here at the last trial.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You noticed the clock, and it was fifteen minutes past twelve, was it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—Mr. Ivory asked me to give evidence, on the Sunday previous to the case coming off at the sessions.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were the two constables there when you went in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and they were there when I left—I went in about half-past eleven, or perhaps a quarter to twelve, and they were there then—I am sure I was there before twelve, and that I found them there at that time—I knew them, by seeing them in policeman's clothes previously (
<hi rend="italic">looking at Barry</hi>), that is the gentleman—he was there with Hayes—they had their backs to me, but I saw their side faces.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-166" type="surname" value="REED"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-166" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE REED</persName> </hi>. I am a carpenter, and live at No. 7, Bury Street, Camden Town—I was in the Stationers' Arms, at the corner of Warren Street, on the night of the 30th August—I did not see Hayes there, but I swear to Barry—I had seen him before in policeman's clothes—I saw him that night at the Stationers' Arms—there was some one talking to him with his back towards me—I am unable to say who that was—I was there about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I don't remember how the man was dressed who had his back towards me—I was examined at the Mid
<lb/>dlesex Sessions when Pearce and Dye were tried—I was not subpoenaed at the last trial here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What time do you say you saw them there, the latest moment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A few minutes before twelve o'clock—we left them in the house at a quarter past twelve—I saw them first at a quarter or twenty minutes before twelve—I would not say to a few minutes—I can't say when I was first spoken to about it—I did not see the landlady there—I saw the barmaid in the bar.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You are quite certain that you were there before twelve o'clock, are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and that they were there when I went in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-167" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-167" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-167" type="surname" value="GRINDLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-167" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES GRINDLEY</persName> </hi>. I reside at No. 28, Union Street, Clarendon Square—I am a pianoforte maker—on the 30th August I was at the Stationers' Arms—I went there between twelve and one, and I might have stopped between twenty minutes or half an hour—I saw two men there who I knew to be policemen—I know who they were—Hayes is one and Barry the other—they were there when I got there, and I left them there when I came away at half-past twelve—I do not know how they were dressed, I will not swear.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What time do you say you went in when you first saw them.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I might have gone in about twelve o'clock—I had come out of the Bedford Music Hall.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you able to speak positively to the time you went in or came away?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was between twelve and one when I left, that is all I can say—I was there about half an hour—I went in about five minutes to twelve—I am sure it was before twelve o'clock, and that they were there when I went in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-168" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18661119-name-168" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-168" type="surname" value="DOLLMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18661119-name-168" type="given" value="FRANCIS THOMAS"/>FRANCIS THOMAS DOLLMAN</persName> </hi>. I reside at No. 63, Gloucester Crescent—on the night of 30th August I retired to rest about half-past eleven o'clock—the servant usually saw that the house was safe, and I did occasionally myself—I went to bed as usual on the night in question—I was awoke as nearly as possible at five minutes to five o'clock, first by the servant coming down the stairs and telling me there was a ring at the bell, and then by the policeman Hayes, I believe it was, who came a short way up the stairs to tell me my house had been broken—I went down into the kitchen—the servant was there, and Hayes, and Barry, and a policeman in uniform—there is a small garden in front of my house—I think this model (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is a fairly correct model of my house—I have not had the garden measured—it was not measured in my presence—I saw the sash of kitchen window that morning when I was called downstairs—the window was open two or three inches, and the shutters were open when I came down—this model (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) gives an indication of the marks that I had pointed out to me on the window—I believe it to be correct—I do not know what the state of the catch might be then, but afterwards it went rather stiff—if I remember right, I tried it, and found it to be rather stiff—I did not try it at the time—Hayes I am sure was in plain clothes—I could not swear as to what dress the other had on, or what coat he had on—I believe Hayes had a dark
<lb/>coloured coat—with regard to the other, I could not swear whether his coat was exactly light or not—I could not exactly tell whether they were dressed in dark clothes or not, not for certain—I could not swear to it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18661119-name-169" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-169" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN IVORY</persName> </hi>. I reside at No. 53, College Place, Camden Town, and am a pianoforte maker by trade—I am in the employment of Mr. Brooks, of Cumberland Market—Pearce was in my employment, and had been I should think some seven or eight months—I have known him for a long time—he had been in the employment of a firm before he was in mine—his mother called on me on Saturday morning, and informed me he was in custody—I first of all went to Albany Street Police-station to ascertain the nature of the charge, because his mother did not tell me—I then proceeded to the House of Detention to see the lad on the same day, Saturday, but I found I could not see him then—I saw him on the Monday—having seen him I instructed a solicitor to appear for him at the next hearing at the police-court, and I attended myself—he stated the nature of the defence that was proposed to be put in—the Magistrate said, "I will not hear one word of it"—I was extremely anxious to make an application to the Magistrate myself—I do not know what has become of the knife that was produced on the last trial here—I gave it in at the entrance of this court when I was asked for it—I saw it in the hands of the jury, and I have not seen it since—it was a pocket-knife with a white handle—the blade of it I should judge was about six inches long—this model correctly represents the state of the window-sash of Mr. Dollman's house when I saw it, with respect to the marks on it, and every
<lb/>thing of that kind.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You are in the employment of Mr. Brooks?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I am a piece-worker—I allowed Pearce 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—he is still in my service.</p>
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<interp inst="t18661119-name-170" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN NORTHCOTE</persName> </hi>. I am servant to Mr. Dollman—on the morn
<lb/>ing of 31st August I was upstairs in my room and heard the bell ring—I think it was between four and five o'clock—I do not know whether the front gate was bolted at that time—I opened my door and came downstairs—I saw Hayes and Barry, and a policeman in uniform—that was the first time I had seen them—they said they were two detectives—I let them in and went down into the kitchen with them—they went first, but I followed them—they were in the hall—they had got as far as the stairs when I went up to master; but before I opened the door to them I told my master as I was coming downstairs that there was somebody at the door, and after I let them in I left them at the top of the stairs and went up just two or three steps, and master came outside his door as I was going up—when I came down the constables were where I had left them—they went before me into the kitchen—I followed them quite closely—at that time the shutters were shut—I saw them opened—Hayes opened them—the bell is just outside the gate.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You did not lose sight of the policemen at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not at all.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were the shutters fastened?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I believe the catch of the window was fastened the night before, but I might have made a mistake—I was very busy that night with Mrs. Dollman, packing up—I am under the impression that I did fasten it, as I usually did, but I am not quite sure.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOLLMAN</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I have measured the length of the front wall; it is about thirty-four feet—I have not an exact measurement of the depth from the outside to the house, but I think it is about twenty feet—the hasp of the gate is somewhat worn—it could be opened by a kick unless it was bolted—there is a bolt inside.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, November</hi> 21
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