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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-2" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-3" type="given" value="EDWARD T. E."/>EDWARD T. E. BESLEY</persName>, ESQ.,</p>
<p>Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, August 13th, 1866, and following days,</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON.</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BENJAMIN SAMUEL PHILLIPS, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY SINGER KEATING</hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHALLIS</hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS QUESTED FINNIS</hi>, Esq.; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM LAW
<lb/>RENCE</hi>, Esq., M.P., Aldermen of the said City; the Right Hon.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN</hi>, Esq.,
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT BESLET</hi>, Esq., and
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDNEY HEDLEY WATERLOW</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHAMBERS</hi>, Esq., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</hi>, Esq., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Ter
<lb/>miner and General Gaol delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SILLS JOHN GIBBONS</hi>, Esq., Alderman</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES FIGGINS</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY DUFFETT</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CYRIL MORTIMER MURRAY RAWLINS</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Upper-Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PHILLIPS, MAYOR. TENTH SESSION.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">A star denotes that the prisoners have been previously in custody/—two stars</hi>(**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody/—an obelisk</hi>
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters/—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, August</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY CHAMBERS</hi> (45)</persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. M. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-5" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CARPENTER</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Crown Office—I produce the writ of the election for the borough of Maidstone, and the return to it—the election took place on 12th July, 1865—the return shows that Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman were elected members—I have the poll books here.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-6" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GINGER</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Journal Office, House of Commons—I produce the journal, and the original petition presented against the return of Mr. Whatman and Mr. Lee for the borough of Maidstone—the petition was referred to a Select Committee, upon which, on 16th April, the Hon. Charles Wentworth Howard, Alexander Dundas, R. W. Baillie Cochran, Esq., Sir Francis Crossley, Francis John Saville Flambé, Esq., and Clare Sewell Read, Esq., were sworn.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Be kind enough to point out in the journal any entry setting forth the fact that the Committee ever did sit?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That will not be in the journal; the Committee clerk will tell you that; that would be in the Minutes of Committee.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-7" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES FOSTER</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the House of Commons, and was clerk to the Select Committee for trying the merits of the Maidstone election petition, which met on the 17th April—the prisoner was examined on the 18th—I swore him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-8" type="given" value="THOMAS EDWARD WILMOT"/>THOMAS EDWARD WILMOT KNIGHT</persName> </hi>. I am a short-hand writer—I was present part of the day on 18th April at the Maidstone election petition—I Produce my original notes of, the prisoner's evidence—this printed copy is accurate—I have compared it with my notes. (
<hi rend="italic">In this evidence the prisoner stated that Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman came to his premises about ten o'clock</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">in the evening of the Thursday or Friday before the election week; that Mr. Whatman asked him for a vote, and he told him he could not vote for him; that Mr. Whatman said, "Will</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 40
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<hi rend="italic">be of any use to you? which he declined, saying that if he voted at all it would be for the Conservatives; that Mr. Whatman took some money out and said, "There, get something to drink with this; it will do you good; "and that upon his refusing to take it Mr. Lee said, "If he will not take it from you he will take it from me," and put some
<lb/>thing into his slop pocket, which he afterwards found to be two sovereigns</hi>.)</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-9" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WHATMAN, ESQ</persName> </hi>., M. P. I am one of the members for Maidstone—I was elected in July last year—a petition was presented against the return—the Committee reported in my favour, and I am now the sitting member—Mr. Lee is my colleague—I represented Maidstone in 1852, and was member for the county at the following election—I live a short distance from Maidstone, and am well known there—I heard the defendant examined before the Committee of the House of Commons, but cannot say whether I canvassed him or not—I have no recollection of it—the constituency is about 1800—we canvassed the majority of them for several days—I did not know the prisoner by sight at all, or remember him when I saw him in the Committee room—it is not true that on Thursday or Friday before the election I went to his forge between ten and eleven at night with Mr. Lee, or on any night, nor did I on any occasion say to him, "Will 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. be of any use to you?"—he did not say, "No, if I do vote I shall vote for the Conservatives"—Mr. Lee never said anything of the kind in my presence—I never promised the prisoner a sum of money directly or indirectly—I did not take a sum of money out of my pocket and offer it to the prisoner, and say, "Here, get something to drink with that; it will do you good," nor did Mr. Lee say, "If he will not take it from you he will take it from me, I have had a little talk with him before"—nothing of the kind occurred—Mr. Lee did not take any money from me and say to the prisoner, "You are a hard working man; you will find use for that in your family; take it and get something with it," nor anything to that effect—Mr. Lee did not in my presence take any money and put it into the prisoner's
<hi rend="italic">slop</hi> pocket on the Thursday or Friday before the election, or at any other time—I never gave the prisoner any money for any purpose whatever—his evidence given before the Committee is entirely untrue—I never during the election gave any money to any voter, or promised any, nor did Mr. Lee in my presence to my knowledge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the nomination on Tuesday and the election and polling on Wednesday?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—it was in July, and I began my canvas either in May or June—I did not become more vigorous and more constant as the election approached; the canvas was over before that—I do not think I canvassed a great many people the week preceding the election—the canvas was, I think, carried on principally previous to that—I do not think I was in Maidstone every day the week before the election—I did not attend a ward meeting every night in the week before the election—I do not recollect attending a ward meeting held at the "Sun" public-house on the Thursday before the election—I do not recollect the nights on which the ward meetings were held—they were not held every night I am quite sure—I cannot tell you whether there was one on each of the five nights—there were a great many more than I liked—I may very probably have attended a meeting of my supporters on the Thursday before the election, but I do not recollect it in the least—I do not recollect attending a ward meeting of my supporters also on the Friday</p>
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<p>night before the election; I cannot tell—I have understood that there was a ward meeting at the "Sun" tavern, but I do not actually remember the name of the house—there were several of these meetings at which I addressed the electors, but where they were on each night I cannot tell—the "Sun" tavern is in High Street—we had no committee rooms but one—I addressed meetings at different parts of the town at public-houses—they were ward meetings, not committee meetings—there were certainly not twelve committee rooms to my knowledge, I do not think there were six, nor four—I will not swear anything about it—I told you I believed we had but one—we have paid for the use of some rooms used for the ward meetings, and they are called in the bills committee rooms, but they were not committee rooms—I have since ascertained that Pudding Lane is the lane that Chambers's forge is in—the "Sun" is pretty nearly opposite the end of Pudding Lane, in High Street—Chambers's forge is at that end of Pudding Lane—I never canvassed alone in the town—I drove in my carriage before a meeting to the house of another Chambers, but he was not at home—that was the only occasion on which I went alone—I am quite sure I never canvassed any elector alone in the town—I do not recollect the name of John Richards, an elector, in the employ of the South-Eastern Railway (
<hi rend="italic">George Richards was here brought into court</hi>)—I do not recollect him, or canvassing him—I will not say that I did not—I can positively say that the week before the election, and about the middle of the week, at two or three o'clock in the afternoon, I did not call at his place alone and canvas for his vote—I think I was asked to go to one of these people in Prospect Place, if that is in the West Borough, and I remember riding on horseback to a house there—I do not consider that to be in the town, but there was somebody with me, whether it was a servant or who I do not remember—it is
<hi rend="italic">very</hi> possible that I asked one of the family who came to the door if Mr. Richards was at home, and that the man who has just been in court came out to speak to me, but I do not remember it, and it is extremely improbable that it occurred—I do not remember saying to that man, "You have already been canvassed, but I have not heard that you have promised anybody yet; you will vote for me"—I will not under-take to swear that I did not, or that he did not say, "Sir, I have made up my mind, and I cannot vote for you," but if anybody said that to me I always said, "Then keep your promise"—the ward meetings terminated about ten o'clock or soon after—I do not recollect where I was between ten and twelve o'clock on the Thursday night previous to the election—I was not examined before the Election Committee as to these particular days you are speaking of—I do not know Richard Coker, a voter, who is employed at the South-Eastern Railway station
<lb/>master's room (
<hi rend="italic">Coker was here brought in</hi>)—I know that person, but should not know him by name—I do not recognise him as a person who does duty on the South-Eastern Railway—it is very possible that in the week before the election, at the Maidstone Station, about eleven o'clock in the morning, I asked him if he would vote for me, but not when I was alone; we went there to several of the railway men—I said before the Election Committee that I never was alone, and that there was never so few as one person with me, and that I did not. recollect any occasion when only one person was present—it is very possible that I was walking into the station with Mr. Charles Arkoll, and that I addressed Coker and asked him for his vote—I recollect walking into the station with Mr. Arkoll when there was nobody with me—I had totally forgotten the circumstance at the examination—I do not recollect</p>
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<p>going into one of the rooms belonging to the superintendent of the station with Mr. Arkoll—I will not undertake to say whether any other persons were present—after the ward meetings I invariably went home, except on one occasion, when I had to wait half an hour—I cannot tell you where I was on the Friday night at ten o'clock.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you remember what you did after the ward meetings at the "Sun?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I went home—this was not on either of the occasions after a meeting at the "Sun"—it is in the West Borough, a long way off.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-10" type="given" value="SOLICITOR"/>MR. SOLICITOR GENERAL</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is Prospect Place, West Borough, in the town?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I never considered so: it is an outskirt—it is a collection of houses, built near the railway, and more or less detatched and scattered.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-11" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LEE, ESQ.</persName> </hi>, M. P. I am the sitting member for the borough of Maidstone—I live at Aldborough, in Kent, about seven miles from Maid-stone—I have lime and cement works in Kent—I was elected member for Maidstone in 1853, and again in 1859—at the general election I stood again in the Liberal interest with Mr. Whatman, and was elected—I never directly or indirectly offered the prisoner any money to vote for me and Mr. Whatman—I never said to him that if 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was of any use he could have it—I never went to the prisoner's forge between ten and eleven at night—I never canvassed after six o'clock—I might have called at his forge, but I never was alone in his forge with Mr. What-man, and certainly not so late as ten or eleven at night—it is not true that Mr. Whatman said to the prisoner, "Are 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of any use to you?" nor did he take out any money and say to the prisoner, "Here, get something to drink with this; it will do you good;" nor did I say, "If he will not take it from you he will take it from me"—I have had a little talk with him before—I did not take some money from Mr. Whatman, and say to the prisoner, "You are a hardworking man; you will find use for this in your family; take it and get something with it;" nor did I then place two sovereigns, or any other sum into his
<hi rend="italic">slop</hi> pocket, or any pocket—I heard the prisoner describe, at the House of Commons, the interview with us—that was untirely untrue—I went canvassing with Mr. Whatman and several of the leading persons of the place.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you usually attend the meet
<lb/>ings of the constituents of an evening?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> We had four meetings, one in each ward, and I attended all of them—that was the week before the elec
<lb/>tion—Mr. Whatman attended likewise—I remember attending a meeting at the "Sun," at the top of Pudding Lane, but I do not know whether it was on the Thursday before the election—I am not quite sure whether it was Friday—there was generally a day intervening—it was coming close to the day of action, and business became a little more brisk—I will not under
<lb/>take to say that I did not attend two meetings at the "Sun," one on Thursday and one on Friday—we used to meet at eight o'clock till ten—I live out of Maidstone, but I had private lodgings in Week Street—I do not know that any of the members of the committee ever came there—we used to meet at the joint agents for me and Mr. Whatman in High Street—I do not think I ever went there after the ward meetings—they were over at ten o'clock or a little after, and we used to separate then and each go home—on the Thursday night before the election I went home to my lodgings after the meeting—I lodged in the town during those nights and went straight home—I can-not tell who accompanied me on that night or Friday night—we used to walk through the town two or three together—there were generally 70 or 80 people in the room—I never canvassed any single voter alone, I am</p>
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<p>pretty well convinced—I said before the Select Committee that I never did, and I do not think I have—I know James Jowett, the tobacconist—I believe he voted against us—I did not the week before the election go to him alone and press him as an old friend to give me his vote—I called with other gentlemen, who went into his shop—I might go in and they might stand at the door—I never called and canvassed him unaccompanied by any person—I know his brother Thomas and the whole family—I did not call on Thomas alone and canvas him for his vote three or four days before the election—I may have canvassed him, but I do not know where he lives.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called the following Witnesses for the Defence</hi>:—</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-12" type="given" value="ABRAHAM"/>ABRAHAM HAWKINS</persName> </hi>. I live on my property at Maidstone—a few nights before the election I was at Mr. Smith's public-house, in Pudding Lane—I do not recollect the sign, as it has been altered—I was there from eight till nine in the evening—I know Messrs. Lee and Whatman—I saw them both coming out of a forge or blacksmith's shop in Pudding Lane, kept by Mr. Chambers, the defendant—I made an observation to Mr. Smith and Mr. Brown—on another occasion, previous to the election, I was going through Pudding Lane with Mr. Brown—I think it was before ten o'clock—I saw Chambers in his forge and some gentlemen talking to him—I cannot swear whether it was the members—there were two or three gentlemen—they had a respectable appearance, but at ten o'clock at night in June it is dark—on the other occasion I saw them coming out of the forge, and am certain it was Messrs. Lee and Whatman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where do you live?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In the Bexley Road, Maidstone—I was inspector in the King Street ward, on the opposite side to the sitting members—I was a witness before the Parliamentary Committee in 1859, when Mr. Lee and Mr. Buxton were returned—I was not particularly a witness against them, I deposed to a certain fact—I stated that there was a committee opposite my house, but there is such a different opinion about committee rooms that it is liable to contradiction—I cannot say whether it was contradicted—the Committee seated Mr. Lee and Mr. Buxton—I was in London at the time of the trial of the petition, the day it commenced and the next day, not the whole time—I was there when Chambers was examined, but was not in the committee room at the time—I did not know that he was to be examined, but I knew afterwards that he had been—before the case was over I saw in the newspapers that Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman were examined—I was not up in town as a witness—I had nothing to do with the petition at all—I merely went up, like a great many others, to see and hear how the petition was going on—I did not watch the evidence, I was only present occasionally—I was in and out—I was not minutely attending to the evidence given—I had no other business in London, but I did not attend to the evidence particularly, because I had nothing to do with it, and I did not give evidence—the whole town of Maidstone took an interest in it—I was partly in the room when Chambers was examined, at the commence
<lb/>ment I think—I cannot say that I heard him give evidence with respect to Messrs. Lee and Whatman being at his forge, I gathered it from the newspapers—I did not see a "slip" of the evidence every night—I saw the printed sheet which the
<hi rend="italic">Maidstone Journal</hi> published—I bought it at the office of the
<hi rend="italic">Maidstone Journal</hi>—I saw the evidence day by day as it was given—Mr. Goodwin, the Conservative agent, acted under the petition, I believe—I took no part in obtaining witnesses to be examined—I was</p>
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<p>opposed to the petition from the first; I thought it ought not to be presented, but it was a matter of perfect indifference to me—I received a guinea for my services as inspector, the usual fee—the others were paid the same for the King Street ward—the ward is divided into four compartments, and each inspector has a book containing the names of the registered freemen and electors, and they have to see that no one comes up who is not registered—for that I received a guinea—I have no occupation—I was articled to the law fifteen years ago—I have no occupation at present—I live on my property—to the best of my belief, it was between eight and nine o'clock in the evening when I saw Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman—I cannot be positive that it was as late as eight—I will swear it was as late as seven, because I did not go into the house till nearly eight—I think it must have been later than six—I am certain it was, and to the best of my belief it was much later—I will not swear that I saw Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman later than six in Pudding Lane, it was the evening part—I had no communication with Mr. Goodwin before the petition came on—I may have spoken to him—I did speak to him, but only casually, not upon any evidence—I do not take upon myself to say the exact nature of the conversation.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Will you take upon yourself to say that you only spoke to him casually?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Well, not upon the nature of the evidence, because I did not know the evidence, I only knew one case, and that was notorious through the town—I knew the evidence day by day—I cannot say positively that I did not take a witness to Mr. Goodwin during the petition—I cannot recollect having a conversation with Mr. Goodwin about the evidence that had been given, or taking him a witness to be examined—I cannot swear that that did not occur—I cannot recollect taking him a witness before the petition com
<lb/>menced—I will not swear that I did not—I did not have a conversation with him as to the nature of the evidence, but it was perfectly notorious all through the town that one witness, Mr. Kirby, was to be examined—I cannot say that he took an active interest on the Conservative side—he did not come up with me—I did not come up in the same train as he did; but I saw him in London in the Committee room—he does not take a par
<lb/>ticular interest on the Conservative side—I saw two or three gentlemen in the forge, to best of my belief; there were not six—I will not under
<lb/>take to say that there were not five, or to say the exact number—it was ten o'clock in the evening—I do not understand this line of examination, it is not fair—I had not a view of the whole of the forge—there were a good many people, two distinct parties, about Maidstone canvassing—the borough is divided into two separate parts, as nearly every borough is, and the candidates and their friends go round in a canvassing party—the numbers vary; sometimes there are 20 and sometimes 25, and sometimes only four or five, or less—I never made a statement to the effect that I have now while the Parliamentary Committee was sitting, because I did not know that Mr. Chambers would give evidence—he was examined the second day, and I was there—I did not see the printed paper at night when I was in London—I got it on Wednesday, when the petitioner's case had closed—I made no statement while the petition was pending, to the effect of what I have said to-day, but it struck my mind that I could—I believe the prisoner was the first man who was examined on Wednesday, the 18th—I was not there in time to hear the whole of his evidence, and on the following morning you will find the petitioners' case closed—I first made a statement similar to what I have made now last week, but I had</p>
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<p>stated it verbally prior—I first stated it when the petition was going on, not before the petition—(I did not understand the nature of Chambers's evidence; I did not know he was going to be called)—I did not state it to Mr. Goodwin, but I stated it publicly in Maidstone to a few friends—that might be the Friday or Saturday after Chambers was examined, I cannot now charge my memory; the election is now more than 12 months ago—the petition was in April this year—I mentioned to a few friends that I thought I saw, to the best of my belief, Messrs. Lee and Whatman coming out as I described—I said on the first occasion that I could not tell who the parties were—I say that, to the best of my belief, I saw them coming out—I was certain about them then in my own mind, and I swear now that, to the best of my belief, I saw them coming out—I have lived in Maidstone a great many years, and know them—I was a witness against Mr. Lee seven years ago, and I knew him and Mr. Whatman per
<lb/>fectly well—I will swear that I spoke to them on the first occasion that I saw them, and yet I will not say more than to the best of my belief—it was some time before the election that I saw them in Pudding Lane—I made no memorandum of it—I mentioned it to several friends after the petition, as I thought it was important—I swore just now that it was not of sufficient importance for me to give evidence—I mentioned it in casual conversation to a few friends—the time when I believe I saw them was some short time prior to the election—I made no memorandum of the time—it was not a fortnight before the election—I cannot state positively, you are taxing me too fiercely—it was not the day before the election, it was ten days or a fortnight before—to the best of my belief, that was the first occasion.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You were asked if you were examined on a former occasion on some petition; is there any pretence for suggesting that you uttered one word that is not true?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think not—on the first occasion, when I saw Messrs. Lee and Whatman at the forge, they were coming out of the forge—that was the evening I saw Mr. Brown—he said, "I have just come from the house, and Lee and Whatman are gone into Chambers's forge," on that I and Mr. Smith looked out at the window and saw them come out of the forge—I knew them by sight, and have no doubt that the two persons who came out of the forge were Messrs. Lee and Whatman, now sitting on the bench—Chambers was examined on Wednesday—I did not go down to Maidstone on Wednesday evening—I did not come up to town again—it was the next day (Thursday) that I read the account of what Chambers had said—I was not five minutes in the committee room during Chambers's examination—what I read in the papers was the first I heard of it—I did not mention it to any one in Maidstone on Thursday, not till I heard the evidence of Mr. Whatman and Mr. Lee—Mr. Whatman was examined one day and Mr. Lee the next—it was mentioned at Maidstone the same evening—I read their evidence partly on Thursday, but I read it on the Friday—it was either on Friday or Saturday that I said some
<lb/>thing about the evidence of Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman—Mr. Goodwin was solicitor to the petitioners—from the time I left home on the Wed
<lb/>nesday evening I had no communication with him—I called at his office on professional business and saw Kirby there; that was before the petition was presented—I did not take Kirby there; I had nothing to do with him—he happened to be in Mr. Goodwin's office when I called.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-13" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am an implement maker of Maidstone—about eight or nine days before the election I was in Pudding Lane—I saw Messrs.</p>
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<p>Lee and Whatman half-way up the lane—I followed them through the lane—they were coming from Earl Street towards the "Sun"—it was between eight and nine, nearly nine—they did not pass me—I followed them till they came opposite Mr. Chambers's shop, and they stopped and went in directly—I saw them go in—I knew them by sight perfectly well, and have no doubt whatever that they went in—I went into Smith's beershop, Pudding Lane, perhaps five or six yards from opposite Chambers's forge, on the other side of the street—I saw Hawkins there—I had passed the forge to go to the public-house—I saw them go in and saw them in there, but I did not see anything of the defendant at that time—I did not wait a minute—two or three days after that, at night, I saw Messrs. Lee and Whatman in Pudding Lane—Hawkins was going home with me, and I saw them in the forge talking to Chambers, who was standing close by the anvil, but he was not at work while they were talking—I did not stop scarcely half a minute—I can speak positively that Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman are the two, and I saw Mr. Lee at Chambers's forge between four and five o'clock one afternoon—I did not notice Chambers—I saw Mr. Lee come out of the forge—my place of business is about 200 yards from Chambers's forge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you take much interest in the election?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I did not come to town at the time of the petition—I did not look at the accounts from day to day—I did not take an active part in the election or attend committees on the Conservative side—I know Smith's beershop in Pudding Lane—I never attended com
<lb/>mittees there—I do not know whether that was one of the Conservatives' committee rooms—on the second occasion that I saw Messrs. Lee and Whatman Hawkins was with me; we were going home together, and at the end of the street he went one way and I the other—we were together when we saw them, and I called his attention to them, and said, "They are working that man's inside out"—we were on the pavement, which is a sort of threshold of the shop, and about the distance I am from you—I cannot say whether we stopped half a minute—it was night, and the light was not so bright as it is now; it was firelight—Hawkins knew them as well as I did, and he could see them as plainly as I could and a little better, because he had better sight perhaps—my sight is very good, but he is younger—this was, I think, five or six days before Tuesday, the nomination day, not more—I cannot tell you whether it was the Tuesday or Wednesday before—I had come home by train—I made no statement at the time the petition was going on—the first statement I made was to Mr. Goodwin not more than a week ago I think—I mentioned it to others—I cannot tell you whether I mentioned it two months ago—there was a general talk about it—I cannot tell you the person to whom I first mentioned it—there were no other persons in the forge on the second occasion that I saw, only Chambers, unless they were hidden behind the bellows—I had a view of the forge—I was about the same distance as I am from you, and the fire was burning—it is open to the street, so that anybody can see—I did not notice any persons about—I did not see Mr. Lee or Mr. Whatman about the lane with persons canvassing—it was not as early as eight o'clock the second time, it was between ten and eleven—it was not as early as ten—I will venture to swear I did not see them in Pudding Lane as early as six; it was later than eight, I call it between eight and nine—I have not agreed with Hawkins that it was between eight and nine—he did not know what I was going to say, and I did not know what he was going to say—we came up together about this business, but had no conversation about what we were</p>
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<p>going to say—my examination as to what I was going to say was taken down about a week afterwards at Mr. Goodwin's, it was about seven o'clock—Hawkins was there, he came out of Mr. Goodwin's room as I went in—I did not go there by appointment—no one asked me to go—I went to give an account, and that was a convenient time—I had no conversation with Hawkins—I have never had any conversation with him as to what he could say, except what was said the night when we were going home.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say that you never mentioned this to any person until after reading the account in the papers, and then you say that there was a general talk in the town?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, as to what Chambers had sworn, and as to what the members had denied.—I talked about it then for the first time—when people met at public-houses there was a talk about what had happened before the Committee—there were bills put up, "Where is lying
<hi rend="italic">Jimmy</hi>?"—in general talk I stated substantially what I have told you to-day—I have only once seen Mr. Whatman canvassing alone—he was then in his carriage, and only his coachman with him—I saw him get out of his carriage and go to Joseph Chambers's door—a bricklayer and his wife said that he had just gone out—I remember it because I had been in the country, and I arrived at Maidstone by train about half-past nine—I went home and came out again, that causes me to know that it was past nine considerably when I got there—I close my business about half-past five—I knew that Mr. Goodwin was getting up the evidence in this case, but I do not know who told me—I went there after my business was over to state what I had seen—I do not recollect Mr. Goodwin or any one applying to me to go there and make a statement—I came forward and volunteered myself as a witness.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-14" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DIPROSE</persName> </hi>. I am a cutler, and reside at Maidstone—I know the defendant, he is a blacksmith, and I live opposite his forge—I know Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman—I saw them at Chambers's forge three times before the election, once about eleven o'clock, and next day they came between five and six in the evening, and the latest time was about nine o'clock—that was about five or six days before the election—I was examined before the House of Commons—I know Mr. Lee well by sight—I know Mr. Whatman very well when I see him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I suppose you voted for him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I do not vote blue—it was eleven o'clock in the morning when I saw them there, not eleven at night—there were five or six persons with them—they were going through the lane and canvassing each one that had got a vote—sometimes there were twenty or twenty-five persons with them—Chambers was not at home at that time, he was down at his house I believe—that was five or six days before the election, and the next time was four or five days before it—I cannot tell you the exact day, because I made no memorandum—I did not think I should be called—I was called before the Committee, but I paid no attention to the time, it did not concern me—the first time was between five and six in the evening—it was past five—only one or two people were with them—I should know young Mr. Day, I did not know the other gentlemen with them—it was a canvassing party—they would take anybody down that would give a vote—I saw William Day, jury., go into the forge, but not more than once—he was with Mr. Lee and Mr. Whatman—that was the next day evening—I saw them go in—I did say before the Committee I did not see them go in, and I did not the first time—I saw them go down to the house and then come back again to though forge; being a little hard of hearing, perhaps</p>
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<p>I misunderstood the question—I do not know whether I answered to the effect that I did not see them go to the house—there might have been something written wrong—they did not appear to be a canvassing party going round the last time—they all went into the forge; Chambers was there—I did not notice what they were doing—I am eight or nine yards off; his forge is on the opposite side, but I could see them go in and come out—they were in ten minutes or thereabouts—at the time my boy shut up the shop it struck nine, and they had just come out of the forge—I know Hawkins—I did not see him or Brown that evening.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-15" type="given" value="BELITHA"/>BELITHA HARRIS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Charles Harris, of Maidstone—I know the defendant—his forge is seven or eight yards from us, on the opposite side of the way—a few evenings before the Maidstone election in July, I was in my bedroom, which is opposite the forge and looks into Earl Street, the clock struck nine shortly afterwards, and I saw Messrs. Lee and Whatman coming in the direction of Earl Street, arm in arm in the middle of the road—Earl Street leads into Pudding Lane—when they got to the forge they made a stop, and Chambers came to the edge of the forge with his shirt sleeves tucked up; the two members walked into the forge out of my sight—I cannot say how long they were there, I had no watch, but it was a short time—when they came out they passed by my house into the High Street—I saw them canvassing during the election, and Mr. Lee came and canvassed my brother, who was not at home, and he said that Mr. Whatman was knocked up—I am sure that the Mr. Lee who went into the forge was the same Mr. Lee who came and asked for my brother's vote—I never spoke to Chambers in my life, but I know him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know Hawkins?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I only know Brown by sight—I never met him at Mr. Smith's, and never spoke to him till this morning—Mr. Goodwin came to me last week—he merely asked me if I knew anything about it, and I said that I saw the two members go into the forge—there were sometimes twenty people with them, but there was nobody on that evening, only their two selves—they were quite alone—I did not say that they were ten minutes in the forge—it was not half an hour—I cannot say whether it was twenty minutes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> My friend asked you whether you ever mentioned anything about the matter till you mentioned it to Mr. Goodwin; have you got a husband?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I read it in the papers, and I said to my husband, "I wish I had been there to contradict Mr. Whatman's statement, for they were there, and it was wrong."</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-16" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DENTON</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the firm of Maynard & Co.—we acted as solicitors for Mr. Brett in advising him in the proceedings—previous to the prisoner being called before the Committee as a witness he communi
<lb/>cated to me what his evidence would be, and I told him that if his state
<lb/>ment was not believed by the Committee of the House of Commons it would be fatal to the petition, and that if Messrs. Lee and Whatman went into the box and denied its truth it was probable he would not be believed; and further, that if the Committee did not listen to his evidence it was certain there would be an indictment against him; and I cautioned him against the danger and told him to consider well what he was about.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SOLICITOR-GENERAL</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who brought him to you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Goodwin; Mr. Brett wished we should review all the evidence, and Mr. Goodwin brought the witnesses to us, and I saw them</p>
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<p>and weighed their evidence—I have no doubt that Mr. Goodwin was present when I mentioned that.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, August</hi> 13
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq The following prisoners</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>:—</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-663-18660813 t18660813-663-punishment-5"/>One Month</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-663-18660813 t18660813-663-punishment-6"/>, and Five years in a Reformatory</rs> </hi>.
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660813-664-offence-1 t18660813-name-25"/>Charles Morgan</persName>, and stealing four tablecloths and other articles.</rs> .
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660813-664-offence-2 t18660813-name-26"/>Charles Barnes</persName> </rs>.
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-664-18660813 t18660813-664-punishment-7"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs>. Johnson,
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-664-18660813 t18660813-664-punishment-8"/>Five years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 59
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660813-665-offence-1 t18660813-name-28"/>Richard Nicholson</persName> and another, his masters.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-665-18660813 t18660813-665-punishment-9"/>Five Years' Penal Servi
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; also stealing three letters and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-666-18660813 t18660813-666-punishment-10"/>Confined Eight Months</rs> </hi>.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN CADMAN</hi> (15)</persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18660813-667-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for unlawfully uttering a counterfeit half-crown.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-33" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR ALEXANDER</persName> </hi>. I am thirteen years of age—I live at the "Lord Clyde" public-house, New Grove Road, Fulham—on the 3rd July the prisoner, with some other men, came in for some beer—he remained about three hours—I served him—he called for a pot of beer and gave me a 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I gave him 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I put the shilling in the till—two other shillings were then in the till—all the. men drank of the beer—the prisoner next called for another pot of beer—he gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I put it in the till and gave him the change—he next called for some more beer and gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I put it in the till and gave him the change—he afterwards called for some more and gave me another shilling—I put it in the till and gave him the change—I think I had another shilling from a man who was with the prisoner—the prisoner next called for some gin—he gave me half-a-crown in payment—Mr. Payne was standing there then—he gave me change for the half-crown, two shillings and a sixpence—I gave prisoner 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and put 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the till—I think they all left about half an hour after.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> How many of us were there altogether?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About six or seven—you gave me 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I couldn't change the half-crown, because my father had ordered me not to change a larger piece than a shilling without calling him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-34" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID ALEXANDER</persName> </hi>. On 3rd July last I saw prisoner in my house—My wife served him with some gin—it came to 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave a half-crown in payment—she said, "This is bad"—I said I was sure it was—the prisoner said he had been working underground, and had just been paid—I let him have it back—they paid for the beer by subscription and immediately went away—a short time afterwards I went to the till—there was about 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the till; five of the shillings were bad—I put them on one side and gave them to the policeman—Mr. Payne came in the evening—I am in the habit of clearing the till every hour—it all depends on business—on that afternoon I didn't clear it for an hour or more—I had given in
<lb/>structions to my little boy not to change any money larger than a shilling.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did you state at the police-court that you saw us all together going out?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was a lot of you; you all ran away—I would swear to the half-crown if I were to see it—it never went out of my wife's hand till I gave it you back—I marked the other half-crown—I did not mark this.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The prisoner tendered two half-crowns?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—the one Payne changed was tendered first and Payne took it away—the prisoner afterwards tendered another piece, the one I am speaking of—I was not present when the money was tendered to Payne.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-35" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PAYNE</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer—on 3rd July I was at the "Lord Clyde" public-house and saw the little boy there—I told him I could give him change for half-a-crown instead of his calling for his mother to give him change—he gave me the half-crown and I gave him the change—I put the half-crown in my pocket—I had not any other half-crown there—on the same evening I went to the "Lord Clyde" between 10 and 11—I had still got the half-crown in my pocket—I had 28
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in my pocket, but no other half-crown—I never saw the half-crown till I took it out at the "Lord Clyde"—it was a bad one—I marked it—I gave it to the policeman—I took the half-crown from the little boy—I didn't see it laid down by the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> What was the time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About three o'clock—I didn't find it before 10 or 11 o'clock at night—I am quite sure I had no other half-crown—I didn't look at the half-crown when I gave the boy change, because I thought you were all working men—if you had been dressed respectably I should soon have tested it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-36" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH SKINNER</persName> </hi>. I keep a tobacconist's shop, Crosby Place, Fulham—on 3rd July the prisoner came for half an ounce of tobacco, and gave me half-a-crown—I observed as he put it down that the letters were particular—I took it up, and directly I looked at it I put it between my teeth and found it was a bad one—he said, "Give it me back; I know where I took it"—I said I didn't give back bad money—he said he'd have a policeman and make me give it—I sent for a policeman, and whilst my little boy was gone for a policeman he went away—two policemen came, and I sent another little boy and found prisoner in a public-house in Waltham Green—the boy gave him in charge—I gave the half-crown to the sergeant.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-37" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BOWERMAN</persName> </hi> (324 T). On the 3rd July I took prisoner into custody at the "Lion" public-house, Walham Green—I found 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on</p>
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<p>him in good money, 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers—I received from Mrs. Skinner this half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-38" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE WELLS</persName> </hi> (Policeman P 129). I produce the bad half-crown received from Mr. William Payne—I also produce five shillings received from Mr. Alexander.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-39" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coins at the Mint—these coins are all bad—the two half-crowns are from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-668-18660813 t18660813-668-punishment-11"/>The prisoner further pleaded Guilty to having been previously convicted.—Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">DANIEL SLATTERY</hi> (19)</persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-41" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, and keep a general fancy and tobacconist's shop in Fulham Road—on 28th June prisoner came and asked for half an ounce of tobacco—that was three halfpence—he gave me a shilling in payment—I gave him change—I retained the shilling in my hand—after he had left I looked at it and found it was bad—I did not put it in the till until I found it was bad—I kept it for three or four days till the constable came—there were no other shillings in the till where I put this—I marked the shilling—I spoke to the constable the same evening—he afterwards brought the prisoner with him—I did not see prisoner again till he was brought down to the shop on Monday or Tuesday, the 3rd of July, I think, I didn't mark the date—the officer brought him down and I iden
<lb/>tified him immediately.</p>
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<persName id="t18660813-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-42" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-42" type="surname" value="CROFT"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-42" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA CROFT</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the "Swan" at Walham Green—on 3rd July prisoner came there for half a pint of beer—I served him and he gave me a bad shilling—I gave him the change for it—I took the shilling to my husband—my husband asked him if he had got any more—he said a lady had given it to him to carry a parcel from London Bridge to Hyde Park Corner.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-43" type="surname" value="CROFT"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-43" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CROFT</persName> </hi>. I am the husband of Emma Croft—my wife brought me a bad shilling—I asked prisoner where he got it and he said he carried a parcel from London Bridge to Hyde Park Corner—he said he was a hard-working man—I believed his story and gave him the shilling back—he went away—I had my suspicions and followed him—I stopped him going into a beer-house—he took the shilling out of his pocket and bent it with his mouth—I said, "You must come along with me"—he said, "You won't lock me up?"—I said, "I wont detain you if you are not known"—he gave me the shilling he bent—in the prisoner's presence I asked the sergeant if he knew him; he said he thought he knew him at Wandsworth—I did not press the charge and let him go—the sergeant kept the shilling.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-44" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-44" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-44" type="surname" value="TROUGHTON"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-44" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY TROUGHTON</persName> </hi> (Policeman T 3). Mr. Croft brought prisoner to the station on 3rd July—he said, "This man has been to my shop and tried to pass a bad shilling, but if nothing is known against him I won't charge him"—I asked prisoner where he got it—he told me a lady gave it to him to carry a parcel from London Bridge to Hyde Park Corner—he was allowed to go—the bent shilling was given to me (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—after he had gone a little way, in consequence of something I heard, I called him back—I sent a constable for Mrs. Brown—the constable brought the shilling with him—Mr. Croft was then sent for again—he charged the prisoner, and then he was locked up.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-45" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-45" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN ROBINS</persName> </hi> (Policeman T 301). On 3rd July I was at the station</p>
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<p>when Mr. Croft was there—I saw prisoner there—from something I said, he was called back—I went to Mrs. Brown and received a shilling from her—it was a bad one—I took prisoner to Mrs. Brown and she immediately recognised him—I gave the shilling to the sergeant, and he gave it to the other constable.</p>
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<persName id="t18660813-name-46" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-46" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BOWERMAN</persName> </hi> (Policeman T 324). I produce two shillings—I received them from the sergeant at the station.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-47" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-47" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. Both these shillings are bad—they are from the same mould.
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<interp inst="t18660813-669-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-669-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-669-18660813 t18660813-669-punishment-12"/>Confined Two Years</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HARRIET LYONS</hi> (56)</persName>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANDREW GIFFARD</hi> (28)</persName> were indicted for
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<interp inst="t18660813-670-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-670-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> a like offence.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Lyons, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Giffard</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-50" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HALLETT</persName> </hi> (City Policeman 606). On Saturday, 7th July, at half-past two in the afternoon, I was on duty in Houndsditch, and noticed the two prisoners—I followed them through several streets, through Bevis Marks, St. Mary Axe, to Fenchurch Street; in Fenchurch Street I saw Giffard hand something to Lyons—just outside the door of 186 1/2, Fenchurch Street, a tea dealer's, she handed a basket to the male prisoner which she was carrying—it is here (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—she then went into the tea dealer's—Giffard crossed the road, saw me, went round the corner, and ran away—when the female came out of the shop I went in—I saw this five-shilling piece—when she came out she went over to the corner where the male prisoner went round—I went over to her and told her she had been to 186 1/2, Holliday's, the tea dealer's, and passed a bad five-shilling piece—she said she had not been there—I took her back to the shop, and the shopman identified her—she had the tea in her possession—I took her to the station, where she was searched—while there Giffard was brought in—he was charged with her—I said, "This is the man who was with her"—he said he didn't know anything about it—Lyons denied having been with him—I found 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 41/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him—Lyons was searched by the female searcher—a half-sovereign, four shillings, and three halfpence were found on her—I don't know whether there is any mark in this purse—Giffard said he had never seen Lyons.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There was somebody with you, I think?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No one at all—I met some one—I don't know who that person was—I passed about three words with him—I know the man by sight—I meet men frequently in the courts, and so on, and shake hands with them, and don't know who they are—he was not with me when I followed the woman to the grocer's shop—I undertake to say I don't know who that man was—he is not a "policeman's nose"—I believe he is a gentleman: a jeweller I think—I don't know what you mean by a "policeman's nose"—I told this person to follow Giffard and see what he was up to—I can't say whether he did follow him—I don't know who brought Giffard to the station—I didn't see the man who brought him to the station—I say the woman was in possession of that basket—she carried it from the "Grapes" in Houndsditch—I spoke to her at Aldgate Pump, about fifty yards from the grocer's shop—it was about half-past two.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How far were you from Giffard when you saw him pass something to Lyons?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About three or four yards—I swear he ran away—I don't know whether there is an Alton ale</p>
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<p>shop near there—there are three or four public-houses—I told the gentle-man to keep his eye upon him—I don't think the gentleman is here.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-51" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-51" type="surname" value="HOE"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-51" type="given" value="THOMAS ALFRED"/>THOMAS ALFRED HOE</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Holliday's, tea dealers, 186 1/2 Fenchurch Street—on Saturday, 7th July, Lyons came to the shop, at about half-past two or a quarter to three, and asked for a quarter of a pound of tea, which came to 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a five-shilling piece in payment—I gave her change, four shillings, and three halfpence—she went out then—I gave the crown to the officer—he came in and asked whether Lyons had been in—the crown was a bad one—there was no other crown in the till.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You gave her four shillings and three halfpence change, didn't you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I had no notion the crown was bad at the time I received it—I bent the coin after receiving it—the con-stable told me it was a bad one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How did you bend the crown: in the detector or the till?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I bent it at the place in the till.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">here withdrew from the case, saying Giffard preferred to defend himself without his aid</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-52" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-52" type="surname" value="WILLCOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-52" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN WILLCOCK</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a music shop in Oxford Street—on 6th June last Giffard came to my shop between four and five—he asked for a song called
<hi rend="italic">The Railway Guard</hi>—the price was one shilling and three pence—I served him with it—he gave me a crown piece in payment and three-pennyworth of coppers—I gave him four shillings change—after he had gone I looked at the crown piece—it had not left my hand—I saw it was bad as soon as I looked at it—in consequence of some-thing I said, my boy went after the prisoner—the boy came back again and I gave him the crown piece—he went out again and came back with the prisoner Giffard and a constable—I charged Giffard with having passed a bad crown—he said he was very sorry, but he was deputed by a cutter at Hyams's, the tailor's, to buy the piece of music—I afterwards appeared against him—he was remanded for a week and then discharged.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-53" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-53" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-53" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am shopboy to the last witness—on the 6th June Giffard came there—I saw him give a crown piece, and my mistress gave him the change—I went after him and caught him at the corner of Poland Street—he was having his boots cleaned and talking to two gentlemen—I went back to Mrs. Willcock and went out again and got a constable—he took the prisoner—I had the five-shilling piece weighed at a tobacconist's—it weighed not quite an ounce—I gave tie five-shilling piece to the constable.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Giffard. Q.</hi> How far is Poland Street from your mistress's shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About 50 yards—I then went back to Mrs. Willcock's and left you standing there—you were talking to a gentleman and having your boots cleaned—a policeman was standing close by—I told him you had passed a badcrown—it was about three minutes from the time I was told to go and look for you to your being taken into custody—I tapped you on the shoulder and told you you were wanted—you said you had no time—I didn't tell you what you were wanted for—I am certain of that—the constable told you what it was for.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-54" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-54" type="surname" value="HUNTER"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-54" type="given" value="MALCOLM"/>MALCOLM HUNTER</persName> </hi> (Policeman 338 A). On Wednesday, 6th June last, witness came to me and pointed out Giffard to me—he showed me a five-shilling piece—I saw the coin weighed at the tobacconist's—I had no doubt about its being a bad one—I took Giffard into custody—I told him that I wanted him for passing a counterfeit crown piece—I took him to Mrs. Wilcock's shop—he said he was very sorry, and that he would give another for it—I took him to the station and searched him—I found on</p>
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<p>him this purse, containing some money—he was charged before the police magistrate, remanded for a week, and then discharged—he gave me the name of Thomas Barry, South London Coffee-house, Waterloo Road, Southwark—he gave me another address—I went to that address, 76, Rochester Row—it is a public-house—I saw Lyons there—I asked her if she knew a Thomas Barry—she said she did—she said, "Thomas Barry is my son-in-law"—then I asked her if I could see a Mrs. Guy—she said, "That is my daughter"—I told her what it was I had him in custody for—she told me I could see her daughter upstairs—I saw her daughter.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Giffard. Q.</hi> What articles did you take from me at the time I was in your custody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I haven't a list of them—there was a purse, some money, and some knives—no bad money was found on you—I found the piece of music purchased at Mrs. Wilcock's shop.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-55" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-55" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-55" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-55" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two crowns are bad—they are both from the same mould—the date is 1818.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Giffard, in a long address, stated that he met the female prisoner in Hounds
<lb/>ditch; that she told him she was going to buy her week's tea, and asked to be directed to Fenchurch Street; that he walked with her to the corner of Fen
<lb/>church Street to point it out to her, and then left her at the corner; that he did not run away but went into an Alton ale store</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LYONS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-670-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-670-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18660813-670-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18660813-670-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-670-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. **</p>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18660813-670-punishment-13" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-670-18660813 t18660813-670-punishment-13"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM ADAMS</hi> (46)</persName> and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZA WILLIS</hi> (22)</persName> were indicted for
<rs id="t18660813-671-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18660813-671-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-671-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> a like offence.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Adams</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-58" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-58" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-58" type="surname" value="COTTERELL"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-58" type="given" value="HENRIETTA"/>HENRIETTA COTTERELL</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the "Sun" public-house, Sutton Street, Clerkenwell—on 12th July the prisoners came to my bar together—I know Willis—Adams asked for a pint of porter—it came to twopence—I served him—he gave me one shilling in payment—I gave him the change—Willis took the change up—they both drank the beer—there was nothing in the till—I put the shilling in the till—after the prisoners had gone I went to the till and found the shilling there, examined it, and found it was bad—I put it in a little ornament on the bar shelf by itself—it remained there till Monday, the 16th—on Monday, 16th, both prisoners came in together—I recognised them directly—Adams asked for a glass of porter, and a quartern of gin and peppermint for Willis—that came to two-pence halfpenny—he paid with a shilling—I looked at that shilling—it was bad—I said to the landlord, "These are the people that passed the other shilling upon me; they have tried to pass another"—I gave Mr. Miller the shilling—I afterwards gave him the other shilling from the ornament—he marked them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is there a good brisk trade done there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I should think there were about six customers in the house when the prisoners came, but there was no one else in the part where they were—it was a separate bar—Mr. Miller was at the bar the first time they came—I served them—no one but Mr. Miller and myself were serving in the bar the first time—I had never seen Adams before up to the 12th—Adams had got a cap on—they were in about ten minutes—I recognised her as having lived opposite to me when I was a child—she has not been in the habit of coming to the house—she has been three times—the first time I</p>
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<p>recognised her was before either of these occasions—she has not been in the house on any other occasion.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-59" type="surname" value="MILLER"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-59" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MILLER</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the "Sun" public-house—I recollect seeing the two prisoners in my bar on the evening of 16th July last—they were standing about two yards from the last witness—she came to me and said, so that the prisoners could hear it, "Sir, these are the two persons that passed the bad shilling two or three nights ago; they have tried to pass another now"—I said, "Are you sure? Mind you make no mistake"—she said she was quite sure—I went to the other end of the bar and sent my servant for a constable—she then gave me the other shilling, kept in the ornament, and I went round to the bar where the prisoners were—the woman said, "Don't lock me up"—she said, "Give the man in custody, but don't lock me up"—I gave the constable the two bad shillings—I marked them before I gave them to him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-60" type="surname" value="HICKS"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-60" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HICKS</persName> </hi> (Policeman F 225). I was present at the station when the prisoners were brought there—7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was found on Willis—the money found on both prisoners was good—I believe on the female there were 13 sixpences, fourpenny pieces, and the remainder in coppers—on the man a crown piece, a shilling, sixpence, and a penny.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-61" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-61" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two shillings are bad—they are not from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Adams' Statement before the Magistrate</hi>:—"I never to my knowledge was in the house till last Monday—I had been working all day."
<hi rend="italic">Willis</hi>.—"I was never in the house before with Mr. Adams—I have known Miss Cotterell since I was a child."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Willis's Defence</hi>.—I was in Sutton Street on Monday night, and met Adams—I went with him into the public-house—I didn't know what he was going to pay for it in—Mr. Miller said, "I will give you both in charge"—I wasn't to know what Adams was going to pay for it in—the policeman took me, and I have been in prison some time—I think it very hard.</p>
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<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660813-672-offence-1 t18660813-geo-1"/>Kent</placeName>) a counterfeit half-crown.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-63" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-63" type="surname" value="JINKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-63" type="given" value="DUNCAN"/>DUNCAN JINKINS</persName> </hi>. I keep the "Mansion House" public-house, Evelyn Street, Deptford—on 10th July prisoner came to my house and called for a pint of half-and-half and a screw of tobacco—it came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a half a crown in payment—I put it in the till and gave him change—there was no other half-crown in the till, only shillings and sixpences—I had cleared the till out shortly before the half-crown was put there—I make it a rule not to keep the large pieces, the half-crowns and two-shilling pieces, in the till—I afterwards looked at the half-crown—I didn't think it exactly right—I put it on the shelf in the bar—I kept it there till the next day, and then I gave it to the constable—on the following day the prisoner came to my house again, about seven o'clock, and asked for a pint of half-and-half and a screw of tobacco—I recognised him—I didn't serve him; the boy served him—I went up before the boy had finished serving him—he gave a half-crown—I took it up and found it was bad—I put it to my teeth and it bent easily—I sent for a policeman and gave him into custody—I charged him with uttering a half-crown on the preceding day</p>
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<p>and attempting to pass another—he said nothing—I gave the half-crown to the constable.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I never was in his house before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-64" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-64" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-64" type="surname" value="BRADSHAW"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-64" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BRADSHAW</persName> </hi> (Policeman R 161). I was sent for to Mr. Jin
<lb/>kins's on 11th July—the prisoner was given into my custody, charged with uttering one and attempting to pass another half-crown—the prisoner said, "All right; I know it"—I produce the two half-crowns.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I said I was not aware it was a bad one.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he say to you at the public-house, "All right; I know it?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At the station—"All right; I know it" might have applied to knowing what the charge was.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-65" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. Both these half-crowns are bad—they are from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-672-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-672-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been previously convicted on the</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th December</hi>, 1865,
<hi rend="italic">in the name of William Wood to which he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-672-18660813 t18660813-672-punishment-14"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, August</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder</hi>.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660813-673-offence-1 t18660813-name-67"/>Marian Strank</persName>, with intent to do grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
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<persName id="t18660813-name-68" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-68" type="given" value="MARIAN"/>MARIAN STRANK</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of William Thomas Strank, a greengrocer, of Moor Lane—we had apartments in the same house where the prisoner lodged—about twelve months ago I lent her some things to pledge to raise some money upon—I had applied to her for the money or the things back—on the night of the 17th July I was sitting in my parlour reading the newspaper, with the door open—the prisoner came in, and hauled me down off my chair by the hair of my head—she then took me up and smashed me down again, and also kicked me—I have the wound, but it has been sewn up—she went upstairs, came back, and did it again—she went upstairs a second time, and came back and wounded me again—what she did it with I do not know—no one came to my rescue—she cursed and swore all the time she was doing this—she was quite sober—I had not spoken to her at all.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. When she gave me the things to pawn I gave her the 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. I got for them, and she told me to put away the ticket, that her husband should not see it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. It is false—I lent her the things to get bread for her children—I did not tell her little boy that I would buy him some sweets if he would say she took 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. off my mantelpiece.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-69" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FOWELL</persName> </hi> (City Policeman 149). I took the prisoner into custody on the evening of the 17th July—I told her it was for assaulting Mrs. Strank—she said, "I gave her no more than she deserved, and she must summon me for it"—at the station she was charged with violently assault
<lb/>ing Mrs. Strank, and asked what she had to say to it—she said she had not done it that time, but if ever she lived to come out again she would do it the next.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. It was my husband said that, not me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi> It was you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-70" type="given" value="FREDERICK HAMILTON"/>FREDERICK HAMILTON SIMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon—on the 17th July, about eight or half-past in the evening, Mrs. Strank was brought to my surgery—her face was covered with blood, and the whole of the front of her dress—she was bleeding freely from a cut wound on the forehead, just at the junction of the hair—I had to cut the artery through to stop the bleeding—there was a wound on the outer side of the month, another wound that I could place my two fingers in at the base of the jaw, and there was a fifth wound at the back of the head—that was a punctured wound—there were also several scratches and bruises about the face—the wound on the forehead must have been inflicted by some cutting instrument—it was a small wound about half an inch in length—it wounded a branch of a small artery—if the punctured wound was done by the same instrument it must have been pointed or sharp—the wound on the upper lip was given downwards—that must have been done by some cutting instrument, but it was jagged—the wound on the jaw may have been caused either by a blunt instrument or by a very sharp kick—the wound at the back of the head must have been from some pointed instrument—I was afterwards at the station, when the prisoner was being removed from the cell, and heard her say, "If I come out I will give it her again"—she was in a very excited state—I could not say she was drunk, but she was under the influence of liquor.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi> I never laid a hand upon her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-673-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="lesserOffence"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">of Unlawfully Wounding.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-673-18660813 t18660813-673-punishment-15"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. POLAND, LEWIS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">and the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HON. DUDLEY CAMPBELL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PATER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-72" type="surname" value="ALKER"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-72" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH ALKER</persName> </hi>. I reside at Bury Street, Salford—I saw an advertise
<lb/>ment in the Manchester paper—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is it—in consequence of seeing that, I wrote a letter to the address which appears there, "H. Can
<lb/>ton, 9, St. Thomas's Road, London, N.E." (
<hi rend="italic">notice to produce this letter was proved; it was not produced</hi>)—I applied for a loan of 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I afterwards received these two letters—the second enclosed a promissory note—there was also an envelope stamped and addressed, "H. Canton, Esq., 9, St. Thomas's Road, London, N.E."—I signed that promissory note and sent it to H. Canton, as directed in the envelope—at the same time I sent a Post Office order for 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-73" type="surname" value="MANNERS"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-73" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MANNERS</persName> </hi>. I am a detective police officer—on the 8th June, about half-past ten in the morning, from some information, I went to 4, Charles Street, Hatton Garden—it is a small bonnet shop—I was in plain clothes—the prisoner arrived there about a quarter to eleven—he went into the bonnet shop, in front of the counter—almost immediately afterwards I saw Gardiner, the postman, in the street, not a minute afterwards: I saw him go into the shop and deliver a packet of letters to the prisoner—the prisoner took them—I saw the postman also hand him a smaller packet—I then saw the prisoner write upon some papers—the postman came out, and the prisoner then retired to the back of the shop—I followed him imme
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<p>accompanied by Sergeant Beard—the prisoner was at the back of a little screen, and the large packet of letters was then undone—it was tied round with string—Beard asked him if his name was Canton—he said, "No"—Beard said, "Then why did you sign your name 'H. Canton?'" He said, "Because I had Mr. Canton's authority to do so"—upon that I told the prisoner that I suspected he had forged stamps about him, and that I should take him into custody—he said nothing—I then took him to the station and took charge of all the letters, eighty-five in number—when I got to the station I opened them—I produce them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the packet opened by you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I opened the letters singly—the 85 letters were bound together with a piece of string when the postman delivered them to the prisoner—the letters were sealed or fastened in the ordinary way, and I opened each of them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you open the three registered letters at the station?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did—each contained a promissory note—I produce them—the letters were addressed, "Mr. H. Canton, 9, St. Thomas's Road," and re-directed by the Post Office to the senders—I opened the other letters—amongst them I found the letter that Mr. Alker has seen containing the promissory note—I also produce nine other letters, each containing a pro
<lb/>missory note—the prisoner was present when some of them were opened—some of them were opened at the police-court in his presence—he said nothing—he gave the name of Sitzler at the station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you ask him to take you to Mr. Canton?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-74" type="surname" value="GARDNER"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-74" type="given" value="WILLIAM CHARLES"/>WILLIAM CHARLES GARDNER</persName> </hi>. I am a letter-carrier in the employment of the General Post Office—on 8th June I went to 4, Charles Street, Hatton Garden—I took a bundle of letters there addressed to Mr. Henry Canton, 9, St. Thomas's Road, the outside one of which had been re
<lb/>directed, 4, Charles Street, Hatton Garden—I saw the prisoner there, and delivered to him the bundle of letters, with the three registered letters—he said he had been waiting for me, I was just the man he wanted—I gave him the receipts and he signed them, "H. Canton," and I gave him the letters.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not the prisoner when he signed for the letters hand you two shillings?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he did not say, "I have been desired by Mr. Canton to give you this for the extra trouble you have had;" he put it into my hand, and said, "That's right; see after them."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-75" type="surname" value="CHABOT"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-75" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CHABOT</persName> </hi>. I live at 25, Southampton Row, Russell Square—I have made handwriting my study for several years, and am constantly employed in that occupation—I have looked at the three receipts signed "H. Canton"—I have before me the promissory note signed by Alker, and a printed form, signed "H. Canton"—I have compared them, and have no doubt that is in the same handwriting as the three receipts—I have confined my examination to the signatures, but I have no doubt, looking casually, that the body of the promissory note is in the same handwriting—it bears the same character—I speak with confidence to the "H. Canton"—I have not examined the envelope addressed "H. Canton, 9, St. Thomas's Road"—I will not say without examination whether that is in the same handwriting, I do not see that it is—the filling up, "H. Canton," in each of these promissory notes contained in these three letters is, I have no doubt, in the same handwriting—the signature, "H. Canton," at the bottom of those letters, is also decidedly in the same writing, not the name in the body of the letters—I cannot say that the signature to the letters to</p>
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<p>Alker is in the same writing, the signature of H. Canton to these other two registered letters, Nos. 451 and 456, is in the same writing—here is a third, which I believe not to be in the same writing—these nine letters and the filling up of the nine promissory notes contained in them are in the same writing, the same as that to the receipts—I have no doubt whatever about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How many of the signatures, "H. Canton," that have been shown to you do you say are in the same handwriting as the receipts?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think there are two that I will not undertake to speak to—the whole of the filling up of this promissory note of Alker's is in the same writing, signature and all—I do not think the envelope enclosed in the letter is in the same writing, and I can't say that the signature to the letter is his—there are two distinct handwritings in this correspondence—in the promissory notes, for instance, the filling up and the signature are different—I don't think I have observed two handwritings in the filling up of the promissory notes—I believe it all to be in one handwriting—I had all these documents in my hands for two or three hours, I would not give an opinion until I had—this memorandum of agreement on the flysheet appears, on this short examination, to be in a different handwriting to the others—I think it is the same as the first signature on the other papers, "pro H. Canton."</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-76" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CRANE</persName> </hi>. I live at 2, Paradise Row, Hackney—in June last I lived at 8, St. Thomas's Terrace, Hackney—that is the same as St. Thomas's Road—the prisoner lived next door, at No. 9—I have seen him there—I have seen him go into the house twice—he took possession about three weeks after the March quarter, and left about three weeks before the June quarter—I left on the 24th—I saw him go away with some fur
<lb/>niture—I never saw any other man in the house—I don't know where he moved to.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long did you reside there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Three years—the landlord of No. 9 is not my landlord—Mr. Spencer is the landlord of No. 9.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-77" type="surname" value="CUMMING"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-77" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD CUMMING</persName> </hi>. I am a letter-carrier in the Hackney district—I know No. 9, St. Thomas's Terrace, St. Thomas's Road—there is no other St. Thomas's Road—a person of the name of Canton lived at No. 9—I have been in the habit of delivering letters there addressed to Mr. Canton, 9, St. Thomas's Road—there was a letter-box to put them in—I never saw the prisoner there—I delivered letters there in that name, from about the begin
<lb/>ning of May, for about a month.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-78" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH TOWNSEND</persName> </hi>. I am the senior superintendent of the stamping department—I have examined the stamps upon these thirteen promissory notes—they are all counterfeit.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> And very good counterfeits, I think?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no case to go to the jury that the prisoner was ever in possession of the stamps in question within the meaning of the statute. The case most analogous to this was the possession of government stores marked with the broad arrow, but it had been decided that the possession in such cases must not only be an actual one, but a possession with a guilty knowledge</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">not disputing this</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">proceeded to con
<lb/>tend that there was no evidence of the prisoner's knowledge that the stamps were counterfeit; they had passed undetected by the authorities of the Post Office, and the evidence showed that they were remarkably well executed. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">desired to hear</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">should know them to be forged, and whether there was evidence of that know
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">RECODER</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOSEPH BOWEN</hi>. I am an oilman, of Green Street, Bethnal Green—I know the prisoner as carman to Messrs. Palmer—in March last he brought me some candles, with this invoice (
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-80" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES PETRIE</persName> </hi>. I am cashier to Messrs. Palmer & Co., candle makers—the prisoner was a carman of theirs—it was his duty to receive money and pay it over to Mihill—I have the prisoner's delivery book that he took out on the 9th of March—I find here an entry referring to Mr. Bowen, with the name of John Smith to it—I believe that to be in the prisoner's handwriting—on seeing that I should suppose that credit had been given, as the delivery book is not produced where ready money is paid—I received 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mihill—that would not include the 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in question.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., which I handed to Mr. Petrie—he produced his delivery book at the time—I went through it, and saw that the amount was 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. independent of this 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you a person named Potts in your employ
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he is a ledger keeper—he was before the magistrate, and is here to-day—he has since been committed for robbing our firm.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was he a witness to the prisoner's handwriting only?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he would know nothing about money matters.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> There was a good deal of rioting in the public-house, was there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, not before the prisoner came in—the young man struck him for taking his beer—he was not struck by any other person—he only struck me one blow—he was not knocked down at all—he was not bleeding—his mouth was—he would not wipe the blood off—there was not much—I should think there were full half-a-dozen people in front of the bar—I had been in there about ten minutes before the prisoner came in—I had never seen the prisoner before.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-85" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY McDONALD</persName> </hi>. I am the prosecutor's wife—I was with my husband and Bridget Caton in the "Red Cow"—the prisoner came in, and a few words passed between him and a young man about his drinking his beer—the young man struck him one blow—after that the prisoner sat down and the young man was taken to the other end of the bar—my husband told the prisoner to go home—he sat down for about twenty minutes, and my husband told him twice to go home—after the twenty minutes had elapsed he got up from where he was sitting, went to the other end of the bar, took a knife out of his pocket, came over to my husband, and put it in his left thigh, and said, "I don't care a b—for any man while I have this"—he then made his escape at the door—Barrett caught held of him—he got away from Barrett, and then two women, Bridget Caton and Jane Connelly held him—no one struck him any blow except the young man whose beer he drank.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did they hustle him at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; they were wrangling for about two minutes—they were not on the ground at all—the blow the young man struck him made his mouth bleed—it was directly that he came in that he took up the beer—he appeared quite sober—I do not know whether he knew the young man, they seemed strangers—I had seen him before, but did not know him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-86" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE CONNELLY</persName> </hi>. I am single, and live in Farringdon Street—I was at the "Red Cow" on this night, sitting at the front of the bar next to the fire—I saw him drink some of the young man's beer—he asked him what he did it for—the prisoner made him some answer—I did not distinctly hear it, and the young man hit him in the mouth—they had a wrestle together, and McDonald separated them twice—after that the prisoner sat down at the end of the bar about twenty minutes—McDonald advised him to go home—he afterwards walked to the end of the bar, put his hand in his right side pocket, and took out a knife—he sat down by the side of me, then got up and walked towards McDonald, who was standing in front of the bar—he said, "I don't care a b—for any man while I have got this"—he stepped towards McDonald and McDonald halloed out, "I am stabbed"—the prisoner then made a rush towards the door to get out—</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> There was no quarrel between the prisoner and the prosecutor?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, nor any attempt to strike.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-87" type="given" value="BRIDGET"/>BRIDGET CATON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Daniel Caton, a glass-blower, of Bartholomew Close—I was with McDonald and his wife at the "Red Cow" on this Saturday night—I saw the prisoner come in and take up a young man's pot of beer and drink out of it—the young man asked what he did it for, and he laughed and jeered at him—the young man then struck him in the mouth—McDonald went to part them, and he moved to a corner of the room, where he remained about twenty minutes—he then put his hand to his right hand pocket and took something, and came to where McDonald was standing—McDonald told him to go home—he said, "What did you say?"—McDonald again told him to go home, and spoke to him several times—he said, "The best thing you can do is to go home"—he then leaned towards him, and said, "I don't care a b—for any man while I have got this"—McDonald then staggered and halloed out, "Mind, he has got a knife; I am stabbed"—the prisoner then rushed to the door—he was stopped by Barrett—he struggled to get away from him, and I and Connelly laid hold of him—he dragged us across the road—we screamed "Murder!" and the policeman came up and took him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see him take out a piece of tobacco and cut it and put it in his mouth?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I did not—I was not looking at him very particularly—McDonald was leaning on the bar about a yard and a half from the door—I did not see the knife at all.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-88" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DROWN</persName> </hi>. I am a tin-foil maker—I was coming through Long Lane on Saturday night, the 7th July, and saw the prisoner struggling with the two women on the ground—he had a knife in his hand, and he threw his hand up and threw it over the crowd—I picked up a pipe full of blood—I threw it down again and went further in the road, and about twenty yards from the public-house I picked up a knife, which I gave the policeman at the station—there was blood on both sides of the blade—it was shut when I found it, and when saw it in the prisoner's hand.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-89" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE NAISH</persName> </hi> (City Policeman 311). On this Saturday night I went to the "Red Cow," hearing a disturbance, and found prisoner entangled with the two females—I took him into custody, and found the prosecutor bleed
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-90" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS REYNOLDS</persName> </hi> (City Policeman 252). I received this knife from the witness Brown at the station—it was covered with blood.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-91" type="given" value="VINCENT FRETERICK"/>VINCENT FRETERICK ECK</persName> </hi>. I was house surgeon at St. Bartholomew's Hospital on 7th July, when the prosecutor was brought there—he had a punctured wound on the upper part of the left thigh about two inches in depth—this knife is the sort of instrument that might have done it—he remained under my treatment until the 1st of August.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is it a sharp
<lb/>pointed knife?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, rather blunt point—it is a common pocket-knife.
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi> Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">DALY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-100" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES McAULIFF</persName> </hi>. On the 4th August I went into a house with the female prisoner—she took my hat off and went into the house, and I followed her and asked her to give it me—she said she would not until I paid her 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I offered her a shilling—after a time the male prisoner came into the room, and an old woman at the same time with a candle—I told him all that had occurred, and he told Harley to give me my hat and let me go—she said she would not until she broke it, and she threw it down and broke it—I then picked up my hat to go, but before I could get hardly outside the street-door I was seized by the female prisoner—she put her hand into my left-hand trousers pocket—I laid hold of her hand and shoved her down—I was directly laid hold of by the male prisoner—the female came to his assistance, and they both got me down—the man knelt on my chest while the female kept my right hand, and turned my fingers back—the male prisoner took the watch from me—I laid hold of the chain, but he pulled the watch out of the swivel—I saw him undo the swivel—he then ran down the passage—I followed him, but could not see him—I went into the parlour, but could not see him—I then went into Victoria Street, and I had scarcely got into the passage again, when I met the female prisoner, and she hit me on the head with a stick or a portion of a bedstead—I gave an alarm to the police—they searched the place, but could not find either of the prisoners—about an hour and a half afterwards we went back to the same house, and there found the prisoners with about half a dozen more women talking over the affair—directly the male prisoner saw me he attempted to get out of the window—the police laid hold of him and asked if that was the man, and I said, "That is the man and that is the woman; I have not the least doubt of it"—he said nothing—he went quietly to the station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A modeller—I live at No.1, Pier Terrace, Pimlico—I met the female in Pall Mall about five minutes to twelve—she asked where I was going—I said, "Home." She said, "Where is that?" I said, "Pimlico." She said, "I live at Pimlico, and if you do not mind we will go home together." I said, "Very well"—I did not mean to take her to my home—I am a single man and rent apart
<lb/>ments—she asked me for something to eat—I did not give her anything, or anything to drink—the houses were shut—she did not ask me for any</p>
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<p>Money—I walked with her from Pall Mall to Victoria Street—we went up a dark turning—she said it was the nearest way, and so it would have been if we had gone through, but she took off my hat and ran into the house and locked it in a cupboard, and put the key in her pocket—I seized hold of her to get the key of the cupboard from her—I did not try to throw her down—she threw herself down on a chair and screamed out, "Charley"—when I was going she said, "You are not going away like that, after bring
<lb/>ing me from the West End?"—I gave her a florin and asked her for a shilling change out of it—I did not throw her down then—I threw her down outside the door when she attempted to rob me of my watch—she cried for help when I was trying to get the key—it was then that the male prisoner came in with the old woman—he did not touch me till I threw the woman down—he then came up and seized me and knocked me down—she helped to keep me down, and held my left hand while he robbed me of my watch—there was a lamp just outside the door—there was no light in the passage—he knelt on my chest and took the watch.</p>
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<lb/>ing the prosecutor—Constable said he did not take it—I found nothing on him relating to the robbery—the prosecutor handed me this chain, which he retained in his hand.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-103" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES OATES</persName> </hi>. I am cab inspector at the Ludgate Station of the London, Chatham, and Dover Railway—on the 10th July, in consequence of information, I went to the top of the incline at the Ludgate Station, and saw three boys on the line between Skinner Street and Seacole Lane—a train was about leaving at the time—I got into the guard's break van at the end of the train, and on the way down the incline I saw the prisoner take a brick in his hand and place it on the metals—I saw him pick up a second and place that on—I also saw him pick up a third, but before he had time to place that on I jumped out of the van and caught him with it in his hand—on the way to the station he told me he had only laid one brick on, and would never do it again—the boys must have climbed over a wall eight feet high to get on to the line.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe there is a great quantity of dirt against the wall, is there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—from the top of the mound to the top of the wall it is nearly eight feet high—there is no other part of the wall that the boys could get over—I saw three boys on the line—this was about a quarter to eight in the evening—the train that I was in was going from four to six miles an hour—I looked out of the door—the boys were before</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THOMPSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you take him on the line?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did—he had a brick in his hand at the time—the placing of the brick on the line might endanger the train.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-104" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Clark, and live at No. 7, Bear Alley, Farringdon Street—on the evening of the 10th July, about eight o'clock, I was looking out of my first window, from which I have a distinct view of the line of railway—I saw three or four boys on the wall looking over the line—there is a little place there where they can get up and stand on the wall and get over—I saw two on the line—one laid a brick on the line, and he got away, but the other who did not lay the brick on the line was taken; that was the prisoner—I am sure he did not place the brick on the line—I saw him taken into custody—the other boy ran up the steps and got away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Which side were the boys?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the Farring
<lb/>don Street side—the man who took the boy into custody came straight along the line—I only saw two boys—I did not see the train at all, or the man jump out of it—I saw the boy taken into custody—he had no brick in his hand—I only saw one brick put on the line.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-105" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH BEVING</persName> </hi>. I live at 25 Poppins Court, Fleet Street, and am in the employ of Odey and Co., plumbers and glaziers—I am fourteen years old—on 10th July I was at this railway looking over the wall—I saw the prisoner on the Newgate side of the way, and saw a gentleman take him into custody—I was on the line—Charles Carr accidentally shoved him off the wall on the line, and he had hardly time to go across when he was taken—he did not place any brick on the line—I saw the train come up and the man lay hold of him—I had a view of the prisoner the whole time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where were you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the wall by Bear Alley—Charles Carr was on the wall too—there was one boy on the line—I do not know who he was—I live in the same court with the prisoner—I do not know that two other boys were taken into custody and punished summarily—I ran away when the man came out of the train—I was not on the line—I ran home to tell his mother that he was taken.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-106" type="given" value="WIILIAM"/>WIILIAM BALDOCK</persName> </hi>. I live at 22, Poppins Court—I was near the railway on the 10th July—I saw the prisoner at the top of the wall—Charles Carr accidentally pushed him off the wall—he ran across the line and I saw him taken into custody—I am quite sure he did not place any
<lb/>thing on the line—I must have seen it if he had.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see anybody place anything on the line?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, a little boy—there were two boys on the line—the prisoner ran across the line, because he could not get up on our side—I went there to see the trains go by—the prisoner had not a brick when he was caught—I swear that—he had nothing in his hand.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-107" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CARR</persName> </hi>. I am fourteen years old, and work at a printer's in Shoe Lane—on this evening I was at the wall of the railway with the prisoner—I happened to touch him and he fell over—he clung to the wall,</p>
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<p>but could not hold, and was obliged to drop—he ran across the line and a train came up, and a gentleman came and caught hold of him, and he said to me he would mark me next—I am sure the prisoner did not place any
<lb/>thing on the railway.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long had you been sitting there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About ten minutes—the prisoner had no brick in his hand when he was caught—I saw a small boy, about nine years old, put a brick on the line—he ran up the steps—that was just before the prisoner was taken—the prisoner did not cross the line—he just touched the line, and was trying to get up on the other side when he was caught—I could see him all the time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character</hi>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-682-18660813 t18660813-682-punishment-23"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.
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<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.—
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor.—
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660813-686-offence-1 t18660813-name-121"/>Edward Osman</persName>.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660813-687-offence-1 t18660813-name-123"/>Jane Martin</persName>, from her person.—</rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN HILL</hi> (21)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<lb/>VAN</hi> (17)</persName> and
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<hi rend="italic">Donovan,**
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-690-18660813 t18660813-690-punishment-31"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude</rs>; Hunt</hi>,†
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18660813-690-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, August</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I put in the till—Butler came next for three pots of beer and gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I put in the till—Clark then came for three pots more and paid me with a half-crown, which I put in the till and gave him three sixpences change from my pocket—that made 12 pots—Clark afterwards came for two pots of beer, and said if I gave him 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—(they had not left the house; there were about a dozen men)—Conolly came next for three pots of beer—he paid me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I put in the till—Dawson also came for three pots and paid me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I put in the till—Clark came next for three pots and half an ounce of tobacco, and gave me a second half-crown—I gave him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. out of the till and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—Butler then came to the bar and called for three pots—I took it into the parlour—he gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I put in the till—Clark then called for three pots and paid with 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I put in the till—they were there from half-past nine till a quarter-past four—I had looked in the till before they came, and there was nothing but coppers there—during the whole time they were in the house I put no money into the till but what they gave me—about four o'clock they dropped off one or two at a time, but Clark remained—he asked for a pint of sixpenny ale and put down a 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece—I had not change and sent for it, and the person came back and gave it to Clark, saying that it was bad—he said that he had pawned his clothes for 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the man said, "You had better take it back where you got it from," and he left—I afterwards examined the till and found seven bad shillings and two bad half-crowns—I went with a person in the evening to the "Whittington and Cat," saw Butler and Conolly, and gave them in charge—they both said, "I know nothing about it"—they did not deny drinking—I marked the coins and gave them to the constable—I went the same evening to a lodginghouse in Cat Court and found Clark—I said, loud enough for him to hear, "There is the old man who passed most of the bad money"—he was half asleep, and at first he denied it—he was not in bed—I said, "You look at me as if you did not know me"—he looked up and said, "Oh! yes, I have been drinking at the beer
<lb/>shop down below 'the Stone'"—he said that he did not know anything about the bad money—I went to the "Lion" that evening and pointed out Dawson—I charged him with passing bad shillings—I did not hear what he said—these are the shillings and half-crowns (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Butler. Q.</hi> Was I half an hour in the house before I fell asleep?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You were asleep about two hours—I received no money except from you four—all the other men drank with you and paid me nothing.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-134" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH SIMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Vincent Simpson, who keeps a broker's shop at 7, Wellington Place, Upper Holloway—on 25th July Clark and Conolly came there, and there were a great many more men inside and outside—Clark bought a "slop" and a hat for 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a half-crown and a 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; I gave him 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change and he left—I had kept the half-crown in my hand and then found it was bad—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—my husband marked it in my presence.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Clark</hi>. It was I who asked your husband to buy a hat and "slop" of me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. Yes, he bought them and you came and bought them back again six or seven hours afterwards.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. of him for work"—I said, "All in silver?" he said "Yes; I received the half-crown (
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and sometimes less—sometimes he was employed for an hour or two only when it was wet, and on finishing I paid him 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me change for a half-sovereign—I never paid him 27
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 28
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. at once—the money I gave him was good—we began on Thursday, the 19th, and finished that day three weeks.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> But he was in custody on 19th July, and could not have been in your service?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Then it must have been on the first Thursday in July; it was just three weeks to a day.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-137" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to the Mint—these half-crowns are bad, two of them are from one mould—these seven shillings are bad, and all from one mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Clark's Defence</hi>. I am as innocent as any man in court—I worked hard for the money at 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a day and my lodging—I slept at a public-house and changed the half-sovereign there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Butler's Defence</hi>. Two or three of them called me in to have a drink, and there were nine or ten pots drunk—I went to sleep, and when I awoke the others were gone—whatever was done was while I was asleep.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Conolly's Defence</hi>. I was going to my lodging, and a man called me in, and then sent a woman to pawn his "slop" for 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—she laid down 11 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and we had three pots of beer—I had not a halfpenny with me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Dawson's Defence</hi>. These men called me in and gave me some drink, and I was afterwards given in charge.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—Hunt said that he saw Clements throw it from his hand out of the back of the cart—another constable came to my assistance—I took Clements—Mr. Eady came up and charged him—I searched him, and found a purse containing 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money, a memorandum-book, and a pair of glasses—he said at the station that Brown was quite a stranger to him, he took him up on the road and gave him a lift.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Clements. Q.</hi> Did you tell one of the witnesses to keep his son away during the examination?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-143" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BRAND</persName> </hi> (Policeman 60 N). I went to Hastings's assistance, and got into the cart—I took Brown and found this bad shilling (
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-144" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HUNT</persName> </hi>. I live at Templar Road, Hackney—on 20th July I saw the two prisoners in Church Street—the policeman was scuffling with Clements in the cart—I walked behind the cart, and saw Clements throw a white paper parcel from his hand—I was about picking it up, and the boy Jessop picked it up—I saw two florins fall out of it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-145" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD JESSOP</persName> </hi>. I live in Triangle Lane, Hackney—I picked up a parcel in the road—I did not see it thrown from the cart—I also picked up two florins and gave them to the prosecutor—Hunt was by me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Clements. Q.</hi> Did the prosecutor say anything to your father?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—he did not tell my father I was not wanted—he told my master.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-146" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. The coins produced are all bad—the shilling uttered by Brown is from the same mould as the one found in the cart—in the package picked up are six shillings all from one mould, and from the same mould as the other two; these six florins are all from one mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Clements's Defence</hi>. I was going along this road, and this man asked me to give him a lift—I said yes; and thereby this difficulty is brought upon me—I took nothing from my breast.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.of
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-154" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COOK</persName> </hi>. I am a footman in the service of Mr. Whitmore, M. P. for Bridgnorth, of 68, Eaton Place—I was a servant there on the 6th July—the prisoner called on that day about twenty or twenty-five minutes past one—the visitors' bell rang soon afterwards—I answered when the prisoner came—he asked me if Mr. Whitmore was at home, and I told him he was not—he asked mo if Mrs. Whitmore was at home, and I said, "Yes"—he said he wanted the address of Mr. Bluck, a friend of Mr. Whitmore's, if Mrs. Whitmore would see him—I asked his name, and he said Captain Marden—he came into the hall—I shut the door and went up to Mrs. Whitmore—she told me the address—she was in the drawing-room—I returned into the hall and gave the prisoner the address, 21, Upper Rane
<lb/>lagh Street—when I gave him the address he said, "Thank you, good day, good day," got into a Hansom cab which was waiting at the door, and drove off—I had laid out the things in the dining-room that morning—I put some spoons and forks and a quantity of other silver on a side table, which is opposite the dining-room door, and which was open—any one in the hall could see the silver on the table quite plain—after the prisoner had gone the visitors' bell rang—I cannot exactly say how long after, it might be a quarter of an hour—I then found the street door open and a servant at the door—I went into the dining-room after a short time, and missed some ladles, forks, spoons, and several other things, which I had left in the dining-room—I gave the alarm to Mrs. Price, the lady's-maid—she went upstairs to the drawing-room—the next time I saw the prisoner was at Westminster Police Station—before I went to the station I had seen a photograph—I could not identify it—I said I could not swear to it—there were six or eight persons standing with the prisoner—I pointed him out at once—I have not the least doubt that he is the man who called on that morning.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you the least doubt now?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I had never seen the man before—he had his hat on all the while—I gave a description of him the same afternoon—I said he was about twenty-nine years old, and that he might be taller than me—I was measured two or three years ago—I might then be five feet seven inches—I am twenty-three now, and have done growing—you asked me my height before the magistrate, and I said that I might be five feet nine and a half inches without my boots—I did not say that the man had a light beard and light whiskers—I said that they were rather dark—I said the other day that I thought his hair was light, what I saw of it, and his whiskers and moustache were dark—he had his hat on—the prisoner has not light hair, but he is the man who called—I said that he had a light overcoat and a blue waist
<lb/>coat bound with braid—the description of the waistcoat is wrong—I heard it read over to me, but I did not hear the light waistcoat read, or I should</p>
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<p>have stopped it—I signed it—Mr. Rolls showed me the portrait on Satur
<lb/>day—I went to see the prisoner on the following Wednesday—Mr. Rolls informed me that they had a man in custody whom they believed to be the man—he showed me a photograph on the Saturday, and I said that it was like the man, but I would not swear to it—when I was first taken into the yard I identified the prisoner as the man who called—I did not notice the others; when I saw him, I did not notice that any of them had a beard and moustache.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What did you say to the constable?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That his hair was light, I thought, but his moustache and whiskers rather dark—I was cross-examined by the attorney, and said that the man had a light coat and trousers, and a blue waistcoat with braid on it—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the photograph that was shown me—I said that there was a little likeness in the eyes and nose, but I would not swear to it by that—I observe that there is no moustache in this.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you shown several photographs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, only one, but he had others, which I did not look at.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-155" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY PRICE</persName> </hi>. I am lady's-maid to Mrs. Whitmore—on the 6th July, between four and five in the afternoon, she missed a diamond brooch, a heart-shaped locket, a bracelet, and some rings and earrings from a drawer in her bedroom on the second floor front, which I had seen safe at tea in the morning—these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are the earrings—they had on them, "H.D., December 12th, 1860," which is erased now—I was shown some diamonds before the magistrate which were similar to those in the brooch and locket—they were rose diamonds.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You had not been into the room since ten, had you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—there are four female servants in the house—I did not go upstairs again till nearly two, after the things were missed.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-156" type="given" value="WILLIAM SPROKE"/>WILLIAM SPROKE CHARLES</persName> </hi>. I am a jeweller, of 19, Church Street, Soho—I know the prisoner by the name of Mr. George—I have occasionally done repairs for him—on the 7th July, between one and two o'clock, he brought a half-hoop ring for me to put some stones in, and I bought a small packet of diamonds of him—I agreed to pay him 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. per carat, which came to 22
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I gave him a cheque for 21
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and the rest in money—we do not give any invoice when we deliver over the counter—I did not know the prisoner's address—he did not say where he got them—I took him to be a dealer in the usual way—he had been speaking about rose diamonds before, and I said that I should like to have a little lot if he had such things—there were from 100 to 150 rose diamonds and brilliants mixed—I did not count them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Can you say that these diamonds ever were in a setting?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot—they are what are called in the trade loose diamonds—some of them are a little
<hi rend="italic">off colour</hi>—I very rarely visit Debenham and Storr's—I have been there, but I never saw jewellery and diamonds sold in the room, irrespective of those sold by the auctioneer; I have seen them sold at public-houses and out of doors, but not in the rooms—I have seen things sold just outside the doors—these diamonds are odds and ends—when I have spoken to the prisoner before he has told me that he has had some odds and ends about him—this was a fortnight or three weeks previously.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Would there be marks if they had been set?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not if they were cleaned—I never saw loose diamonds sold outside Debenham and Storr's, but I have seen diamond rings exchanged in bargains.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where do you mean, outside the door?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, in public-houses—I have gone from the sales to one of the refreshment houses, but not when a sale has been going on—these sales have nothing to do with Debenham's sales—I have attended sales at Debenham's, perhaps twenty times, but I never bought anything—I never saw things sold from one man to another in the rooms—I have bought small lots of diamonds of other men besides the prisoner—Willett is one dealer—I do not know where the prisoner deals in diamonds—Willett lives in Golden Square—he has a private place, a small room at the back of a house—his name is up, but not "diamond dealer"—I have dealt with him perhaps two years or more—I only applied to the prisoner twice for diamonds—I have known him eighteen months—George is the only name I know him by—I never saw him at any diamond sale—I have met him in the street, and at Caldwell's public-house, Dean Street, Soho.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-157" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-157" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK STEAD</persName> </hi>. I am an engraver, of Frith Street, Soho—I have known the prisoner as Mr. George about three years—he came to me on the 17th July, and brought a pair of earrings, off which he wished me to erase the initials and date—I did not see the date—I sent them to Shipwright, de
<lb/>siring him to erase it—they were brought back at six o'clock the same evening with the initials and date erased—the prisoner did not come for them, and on the 18th I saw a constable—he waited outside, and the prisoner came in at about half-past two or three o'clock—he and the prisoner had a conversation—I gave them to the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you known the prisoner to be a dealer in jewellery for three years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In second-hand jewellery and watches—he is a respectable honest man as far as my transactions are con
<lb/>cerned—I have been about thirty years in the trade—I believe it is an every-day occurrence for dealers and others to go about from place to place. selling watches, rings, and precious stones—I have been at Debenham and Storr's a few times—not often—I do not know of my own knowledge that things change hands there which are not bought of the auctioneer, but I understand that it is so—it is very common for jewellery to be bought and sold with initials on it, which are afterwards erased, or they could not be sold, unredeemed pledges, for instance, with crests and initials on them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you know him as Mr. George?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—never by any other name—I had never erased anything before for him—I had his address left with me—I cannot tell you the number, but it was by Hampstead—he gave me that address in writing perhaps twelve months back, but I forget it now—I never heard of his living in St. John's Wood under the name of Scholefield—I bought a gold watch of him about two years back, and he has called on me for things for sale—he did so for two or three weeks perhaps—he frequently called to show me jewellery, generally speaking watches—he sold me a watch two years ago for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., for which I have his receipt in my pocket (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—here is an initial before George, which is undoubtedly the same name—I do not know whether I had his address at that time—he did not tell me where he got the watch—I paid a fair price for it—there is no address on the receipt—I had no dealings with him for twelve months afterwards, but he frequently called to see me—the transaction twelve months ago was for two opals, I think to be set into a ring—I saw him once a month perhaps—I always thought Haverstock Hill was his private address—I did not consider that he was a shopkeeper—I did not go there—I looked at the date on the earrings, but could not see it without glasses—I think there were initials at the top—I</p>
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<p>am sure there was a date and a year—he requested to have them at six that evening, but gave me no reason for that.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you subsequently go to the address he gave you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it was 7, Grafton Terrace, Haverstock Hill, Hampstead—there has never been any difficulty when he has brought me watches or rings.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-158" type="given" value="WILLIAM WRIGHT"/>WILLIAM WRIGHT COLEMAN</persName> </hi>. I am apprentice to Mr. Stead—on 17th July I received these earrings from him, and took them to Mr. Ship
<lb/>wright—they had initials and a date on them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-159" type="given" value="ALEXANDER EDWARD"/>ALEXANDER EDWARD SHIPWRIGHT</persName> </hi>. I carry on business with my father, a jeweller, at 65, Frith Street—on 17th July I received these ear
<lb/>rings, they had on them two letters and "December 20, 1860"—I gave them to my apprentice, Beeby, to take out the marks and the date.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You did not suppose you were doing anything wrong?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Certainly not—I am with my father in business—he is not here—the initial was in the centre of the earrings, it was not a monogram, it was two distinct letters.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-160" type="surname" value="BEEBY"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-160" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BEEBY</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Shipwright—on 17th July I received these earrings, to erase the date and initial—I erased two letters and the date, December 20, 1860.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you been in the trade a good many years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Eight years—it is common to erase the date on jewellery before it is offered for resale—I have done it several times—it cannot be sold in all cases readily unless it is done.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-161" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-161" type="surname" value="CAVE"/>
<interp inst="t18660813-name-161" type="given" value="GUILIOZE"/>GUILIOZE CAVE</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Messrs. Hunt and Roskill—these earrings were made to Mr. Whitmore's order in April, 1861—I see on them marks of erasure—there were no initials on them when they were sold, but they were engraved—these are the same.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MRS.—WHITMORE</hi>. On 6th July I lost some rings and a brooch from a drawer in my dressing-table—the brooch was set with diamonds, flat at the top like these, but some were larger—these are the same sort, but I think there were more—they were white diamonds—these earrings are mine—the initials on them were "H.D., December 20, 1860"—the value of the jewellery and plate altogether is between 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-162" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROOKER</persName> </hi> (Policeman 26 B). I went with Inspector Rhodes, on 18th July, between two and three o'clock, to Stead's, in Frith Street, in plain clothes, and waited there till the prisoner came—I told him I was an officer, and asked him to tell me where he got the diamond ear
<lb/>rings from—he said, "I bought them of a Mr. Hunt, at Debenbam and Storr's auction rooms, last Monday"—I said, "I should like to know who Mr. Hunt is"—he said, "I do not know his exact address; if you will accompany me to Mr. Walton's, in Edward Street, I shall be there able to ascertain where Mr. Hunt now lives, as he has latterly changed his address"—I said, "I am an officer; you tell me where you got the ear
<lb/>rings, as they are stolen property"—he said, "Where from?"—I said "From 68, Eaton Place"—I went with him to Walton's oilshop, Edward Street, Wardour Street—he walked in first, and went and stood by the front of the counter where customers stand—Mr. Walton was on the other side of the counter—the prisoner said, "Will you give me the address of Mr. Hunt, that I bought some things of before? You know Mr. Hunt the one I mean," placing his stick on the counter sharp, making a rattle as he laid it down, and leaving it lying there—Mr. Walton took a red book down and looked for Mr. Hunt's address, and just as he had got the book open</p>
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<p>the prisoner said, "
<hi rend="italic">Bill</hi>, I want to speak to you"—he had shifted his position then to the end of the counter—there was a young man standing there, who, I think, spoke to him—there were some oil casks there, and the prisoner turned round and went through a trap door, leading into the cellar—it was a hole in the floor, but there was no trap to it—I went after him as quick as possible down the hole, but it was all darkness—I could not see my hand before me, but I heard a door shut, as if somebody was going out above me—I groped about for some time and found I was kicking against bottles, and a dog was flying at my heels—I called for a light, which a was brought, and with the assistance of a sergeant I searched about, but could not find the prisoner—the cellar leads from under Mr. Walton's house to the next house, and there is a sort of passage which leads under the next shop, a tobacconist's, and into his shop—there is a regular thoroughfare out there to 95, Wardour Street—I found that the prisoner had gone—I went in the evening with Inspector Rhodes to Wellington Terrace, St. John's Wood—I was there in police clothes and dressed quite differently—I saw the prisoner talking to a man—I walked up to him with Rhodes, put my on his shoulder, and said, "Good morning, Mr. George"—Rhodes laid hold of him on the other side, and he turned round very indignantly and said, "My name is not Mr. George, it is Mr. Collins"—I said, "You are the same Mr. George as got away from me to-day at Mr. Walton's, but there is no trapdoor here"—he said, "I left you for the purpose of finding the man I bought the diamond rings of"—I took him in custody—he said that he felt very uncomfortable, as he could not find Mr. Hunt, and that was the reason he escaped from me—I told him I felt equally uncomfortable at his escape—he gave his name at the station George Johnson, a commission agent—Rhodes searched him, and found a quantity of keys and duplicates, and a photograph.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ME. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he describe himself as an agent?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> as a commission agent and bill discounter—I have frequently looked into Debenham and Storr's, and have seen articles sold outside the door in the street, not jewellery, but clothes and other things, and I have seen rings sold, but not watches—I saw two rings sold outside—I have seen people buy things inside and afterwards take them outside and sell them—I have made inquiries at Debenham and Storr's—I do not find that it is usual to sell jewellery in the room, but it has been done—it is not allowed if it is known—I find that it is common for persons in the room to deal in jewellery after they have bought it at the auction—I have seen articles of jewellery sold in the neighbouring public-houses.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RHODES</hi> (Policeman). I was with Brooker when the prisoner was taken to the station—he gave his name, "Johnson, 11, Wellington Terrace, St. John's Wood"—several articles were found on him, and I think twelve duplicates, one of which (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is in the name of Martin, for a cigar case pledged for 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. at 196, Store Street; the others were for two rings pledged for 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the name of Mrs. Mary Howard, Sep
<lb/>tember, 1865; also three in the name of Johnson, and a pawnbroker's agreement for 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the name of Johnson—I found the photograph on him which I showed to Cook and the other servants—I went to his house, and among other things found a card-plate with the name of Johnson, and some cards printed from it; also a pocket-book with the name of Martin written in it containing betting transactions—I also found this instrument for opening doors.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you take four photographs away?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—they</p>
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<p>were all found on him—I only showed Cook one of them—the prisoner is the landlord of the house—there were no lodgers there—there were only his wife and servant there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where did you find this instrument?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In a drawer which he gave me the key of—it is used by hotel thieves for turning keys from outside the doors when the doors are locked inside and a portion of the key comes through to the outside.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-163" type="given" value="EDWIN JAMES"/>EDWIN JAMES TINDAL</persName> </hi>. I am agent for the landlord of 11, Wellington Terrace, St. John's Wood—I let that house to the prisoner on 17th March, and he signed this agreement (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), "Charles James Schofield, 7, Grafton Terrace, Maitland Park," on 23rd March, 1866—I only knew him by that name.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he sign it in your presence?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, but he has admitted it—I never saw him write—my clerk Ikey gave it to me on the day it was signed—I have conversed with the prisoner twice about it since it was signed—I showed it to him a month or three weeks after it was signed, and he told me that it was his signature, but that it did not contain two clauses which I had inserted in his lease—he said, "I have signed that agreement, and that agreement I will stick to, but I will not sign the lease you have sent me"—I do not know a Captain Martin in my neighbourhood.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660813-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660813-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-164" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CHOWN</persName> </hi> (Police Sergeant E 5). I have known the prisoner ten or eleven years as George Schofield, and also as "
<hi rend="italic">Silly</hi> George—I never knew him as Captain Martin.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-165" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WING</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Debenham and Storr—there was no sale of jewellery at their rooms on 16th July, only of cloths and piece goods—I do not know a person named Hunt dealing at those rooms—our sales are by auction at our rooms in King Street, Covent Garden.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is it the custom that sales do take place in the rooms without Messrs. Debenham approving of it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> We do not allow any sales; if a person buys anything we cannot prevent it, but we turn anybody out who is found there selling goods—I know of no transaction of this kind.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-696-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.*—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-696-18660813 t18660813-696-punishment-39"/>The police stated that he was the associate of about thirty burglars, and was concerned in many plate and jewel robberies.—Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, August</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Keating</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MOIR</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-168" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH LAWSON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of William Lawson, and live at 16, Little Albany Street, Regent's Park—I keep a lodginghouse—about the beginning of June the prisoner came there with two children—she said she was a married woman—there was a man with her for the first week, a German—she said he was her husband, but I never saw him after the second week—she lodged at my house for seven weeks, in the front kitchen—she was drunk and disorderly while she lived in my house, and neglected her infant very much—it was a month old when she came—the</p>
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<p>other was three years old—she was always out of a night after the second week—she used to take the little boy with her and lock the infant in the front kitchen—she has locked it there for 12 and 13 hours at a stretch, and nobody could get in to give it any food—we could hear it cry—I know that she left it one Saturday night from half-past two till half-past one on Sunday—I thought then it was time to see into it, and I went to a policeman and then to the parish doctor—I got a parish order and brought the doctor—I told him, in the prisoner's presence, that the child was left without food—he picked it up and looked at its eyes, and it was quite blind—he did not say much to the mother—he told me he would send the parish officer to fetch it—in about two hours he sent the parish officer, who asked me to take the child to the workhouse, which I did—the prisoner was not at home then—when we got there the child was opened, and it was as raw as a beef of beef through neglect—it was then taken to the nursery of the workhouse—the right heel of the child was burnt very much, and the left heel a little, but not so much as the other—I left the child there and never saw it afterwards—it looked to me as if it was starved and wanted proper nourishment—I never saw it get any food—I never saw the mother give it the breast.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did you not tell me not to go to the workhouse at all, but to go into another district, and then they would not be able to touch me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, nothing of the sort—you behaved very badly at my house—my husband never had his clothes off for three weeks for trying to keep men out of the house that you brought there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. It is false—I was allowed 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week, and I always sup
<lb/>ported my children and myself properly.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. I was not aware that she had 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—she told me she had 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> If she was so drunk and disorderly, and was leading such a disreputable life, how came you to allow her to remain in your house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Because I could not get her out—I tried to do so—I did turn her out, and when she went out I locked her out and her two children.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660813-name-169" type="given" value="MATILDA"/>MATILDA BAILEY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Robert Bailey, a stonemason, and live in the last witness's house—the prisoner occupied the front kitchen and I the back—I knew the deceased child—I have seen it in the prisoner's arms—I heard it crying very badly—it cried from Saturday afternoon from two or three o'clock, to one o'clock the next morning—it was in the room by itself—I do not know where the prisoner was, unless she was in the public-house—she was always drunk—I tried the door many times, but it was fastened—the child looked very bad—I never saw the prisoner wash it—I was never in her room—I have heard the child cry a great many times—I cannot say how many—at three, four, or five o'clock.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I never left my child alone that time—I kept a person, a Mrs. Maule, to look after my children.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>. Your companions were not m