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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-1" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER BUCKLER</persName>,</p>
<p>Short-hand writers to the Court,</p>
<p>Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, January 29th, 1866, and following days,</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON.</hi>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-2" type="given" value="BENJAMIN SAMUEL"/>BENJAMIN SAMUEL PHILLIPS</persName>, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; The Hon. Sir
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-3" type="given" value="JAMES SHAW"/>JAMES SHAW WILLES</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas; Sir
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-4" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHEE</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench; Sir
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-6" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CARTER</persName> </hi>, Esq., F.A.S., and F.R.A.S.;
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-7" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS GABRIEL</persName> </hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN</hi>, Esq.;
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-8" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DAKIN</persName> </hi>, Esq., and
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-9" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID STONE</persName> </hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-10" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Esq., Q.C., M.P., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-11" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Goal Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SILLS JOHN GIBBONS</hi>, Esq Alderman.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-12" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES FIGGINS</persName> </hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PHILLIPS, MAYOR. FOURTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that the prisoners have been previously in custody two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody/—an obelisk that they are known to be the associates of bad characters/—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 29
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of the said
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-19" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK FREEMAN</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Thomas Wallis, a looking-glass manu
<lb/>facturer, of 40, Hatton-garden—the prisoner brought some goods from the Midland Railway Company—I paid him 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the carriage of the goods, and have his receipt (
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-20" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HUDSON</persName> </hi>. I am a railway carrier—I received some goods which came to London by the Midland line for 40, Milton-street—the prisoner was my carman—on receiving money for goods it was his duty to pay it to the Midland Railway on his return—if he was too late for that he ought to have paid it into my office—the instructions are that no man shall go away with the money in his pocket—he had a way bill which specified the parcels he had to carry, the people to whom they were to be carried, and the amounts received—he ought to lodge the way bill when he pays the money, but he did neither—I saw him next morning and asked him if he had any sheets or money belonging to the railway—he said, "No," and mumbled something about 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in Tottenham Court Road—I made further inquiries and found he ought to have received 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on a parcel—I said, "Is that all you have to speak to me about?" and he said, "Yes"—his wages were 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a-week—he has never accounted to me for this 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., or produced the way bill, but he took it to the Midland Railway a week or two afterwards and offered to pay it at 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a-week.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner</hi>. I did not do so.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-21" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD PICKERING</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk to the Midland Railway Company at the St. Pancras station—it was the prisoner's duty to account to me there—</p>
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<p>he did not account to me on 29th December for 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., received from Mr. Freeman, nor did he produce this way bill or sheet—it has not been paid, he did not come to me about it afterwards.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City-Detective</hi>, 199). On 4th January, about a quarter to nine, I went to the prisoner's house, 1, Phillip's-court, Milton-Street—I told him I should take him in custody for receiving 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 29th December and not accounting for it—he said, "I have just sent down the money to Mr. Hudson's and they refuse to take it"—I asked him what he had done with the way bill—he said he had left it at the Midland Rail
<lb/>way a week ago, and offered to pay half the money there and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a-week for the rest—I took him to Moor-lane station—the way bill is here, I got it from Mr. Hudson.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence</hi>. I lost the money. I went to the Midland station, offered them 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and asked to be allowed to pay the rest at half-a-crown a week. I did not know what to do to make the money up; I pledged a bed and sent my wife to pay the money to Mr. Hudson, but the foreman refused to receive it, saying he had no orders. A policeman came at nine o'clock and I was locked up.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOSEPH HUDSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prisoner tell you that he had lost the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Distinctly not; he positively denied having any money or sheets.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Has he ever tendered the whole amount?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I believe he went down to the foreman of the yard when he found the police were after him, and offered to pay part of it, but not all.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-190-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-24" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROOKS</persName> </hi>. I am foreman to Mr. Morrison, a rope-maker, of Norton Folgate—on 13th June the prisoner came, and presenting this order, said, "I have come for a bolt of canvas" or some canvas—it was in an envelope—I do not know whether it was fastened, it was addressed to Mr. Morrison—I opened it and looked at it—I know Mr. Pike by name, he has dealt at the shop—I delivered a bolt of canvas to the prisoner and made an invoice out—we afterwards sent the bill in to Mr. Pike, applying for the money, and found that the canvas had been improperly obtained—I then gave information.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Have not you seen me before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am not certain—this bill (
<hi rend="italic">produced by the prisoner and receipted August</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1865), is in my writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Does that satisfy you that you wrote that receipt on 30th August?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I do not know to whom this bill belongs—it is not made out to anybody—it is for thirty yards of canvas and some twine—I suppose it was a ready-money transaction in the ordinary way of business, either with the prisoner or some other person.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> If you cannot remember whether this is a bill for what you sold him in August, how is it you can remember he was there on 13th June?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I remember it, and I made a memorandum in our book at the time he had the goods, and here is. a. copy of the entry in the day book—I knew him again; I had known him a long time—I always knew him by the name of Crick.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Have I not dealt at the house thirteen or fourteen years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, you have had goods for various people at various times and have"</p>
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<p>paid a great deal of money; I should not otherwise have parted with the goods—MR. Pike has been a customer, but he never had any account—it was my knowledge of you which induced me to let you have the goods.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you trust the prisoner personally?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I had not done so before; he brought orders from different farmers in the neighbour
<lb/>hood for whom he worked, who, when they wanted this sort of material sent him for it, and up to this time they have always been correct.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-25" type="given" value="RICHARD FRANKLIN"/>RICHARD FRANKLIN PIKE</persName> </hi>. I am a farmer of Enfield—this order is not my writing or written by my authority—I never saw it till the prosecutor showed it to me—I know the prisoner—I gave him over 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to get some canvas to do some work for me, and after about a week he brought the work and did it in my place, and I paid him 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. over the 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. which I had advanced to him—I did not say anything about where he was to get the canvas—I know Morrison's—I have been in the habit of buying rope there, but not canvas—the prisoner is a sail-maker—I believe this was for a rick cloth—he had done the same for me two previous years.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-26" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS EVANS</persName> </hi>(
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, G</hi> 22). I took the prisoner at Edmonton on 24th January, close to his own house—I told him the charge; he said, "It is no use telling me about that; I had the money and spent it in drink; I am very sorry for it."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I met with a shipmate and went and had some drink, I had 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and in the morning I found I only had a florin and a six-pence—one of the persons said, "Who are you working for?"—I said, "MR. Pike." He gave me this paper; I knew no more about it till Mr. Brooks wrote to me about the canvas, and my wife went and offered Mr. Morrison 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a-week.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN BROOKS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> After you communicated with Mr. Pike, and found he had not Sent the order, did you write to the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was a letter written to the prisoner—I do not think he sent any answer, but his wife went and saw Mr. Morrison.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and on 30th December, I told the prisoner he was to go for it, but I found he had received it previously—I afterwards asked him about it, and he said that he had not received it—he did not pay me 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 4th December, nor did he pay the balance on 20th and 30th December.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had he been in your service about two years?
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. but I did so—he was taken at his own house a fortnight afterwards, after I found out several more items, the whole amount being about 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he did not give me a list when he left—when I kept back his wages, he gave me a list of two names—he did not afterwards, through his attorney, send me a list of names, and offer to pay me ten shillings—I have no managing clerk—I have not been offered the whole amount, 15
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you ever make him any offer to compromise the matter?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Never.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. which the prisoner presented to me—I paid him, and he receipted it in my presence—on 20th December, he brought some goods—I paid him 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and he receipted the bill in my presence on 30th December—on 1st January, I paid him 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and he put "Paid" to the bill.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> What was the reason I ran into the house round the corner, were you running after me with the tongs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I was too frightened—I did not strike you on the head with them, or strike a young woman across the wrist, nor with a poker or shovel—the house round the corner is a brothel too.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's arm was in a sling</hi>)—it was all right when I took him, for he made use of it half an hour afterwards—I told him the charge was stabbing Turnpenny—he said, "All right; I will go with you"—he made a sudden jerk to get away—he had been drinking, but not a great deal</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d.; also</hi>, 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, and 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.;
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>, 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, and 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., the moneys of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-198-offence-1 t18660129-name-45"/>Walter Spencer Chapman</persName>, his master.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-198-18660129 t18660129-198-punishment-9"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18660129-198-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 29
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<lb/>lawfully uttering counterfeit coin; </rs>to which
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-49" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BROWN</persName> </hi>. I keep a public-house at Old Ford—on 23d December, the prisoners came there—they came again on the 30th, about 6 or half-past—one of them asked for a half-quartern of rum, which I served—a shilling was put on the counter—I tried it, and found it was bad—I told Butcher so—Barnett said she knew nothing about it, and that she had got a good one, which she handed me—I gave her in custody.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 319). I was called to the prosecutor's house on the 30th of December—the prisoners were there—I charged them with uttering a counterfeit shilling—the prosecutor gave me the bad shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—Barnett had something in her hand—I asked her what it was—she said, "It is money I was going to market with"—I took her to the station—I there examined the money. she had in her hand, which was wrapped in paper, and found a bad shilling amongst it—I showed it to her—she said, "Oh my God, my nephew could never have given me bad money"—they were then locked up—there was 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. good money in the paper.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Barnett</hi>. I did not know I had any bad money in my posession; all the other money was good.
<hi rend="largeCaps">BARNETT</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM THOMAS</hi> (23)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-52" type="surname" value="ROSE"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-52" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA ROSE</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Two Chairmen public-house, Warwick-street, St. Martin's—on Saturday, 13th January, about 9.15, the prisoner came in for a glass of ale, which came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>—he gave me a half-crown, which I put in the tester and found bad—I told him so—he denied it, and asked me to give it back again—I told him I would not—I put it in the fire, and it melted quickly—I asked him to pay for his beer, but he would not do so—he went away and came back again in half an hour, and asked for a pennyworth of rum—I told him we did not sell pennyworths—he then asked for a three halfpennyworth, which I gave him—he gave me another bad half-crown, which I gave to my master.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you any doubt he is the person who came in the first time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I am sure he is the man—he rolled about and pretended to be tipsy.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-53" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS STRIP</persName> </hi>. I am the landlord of the Two Chairmen public-house—on 13th January, I was in my parlour with a few friends—my barmaid brought me a bad half-crown—I sent for a policeman.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-54" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BLATCHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, A</hi> 21). I took the prisoner at Mr. Strip's on 13th January—he pretended to be drunk, but I do not think he was—I took him to the station, searched him, and found a good half-crown and a penny on him—MR. Strip gave me this bad half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-55" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-crown is bad—the one that was put in the fire was bad, or it would not have melted so quickly.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence</hi>. I never went into the house before in my life. I must have wanted locking up very bad indeed to have gone there a second time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-200-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-57" type="given" value="HANNAH"/>HANNAH MARCHMONT</persName> </hi>. I live with my father, a grocer, of Manchester
<lb/>terrace, Poplar—I assist in the shop—on the evening of 18th December, the prisoner came in and asked for half an ounce of tobacco, which came to 1½
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a shilling—I sounded it, bent it, and told the prisoner it was bad—he said he had just received it over the way—I gave it him back, and he went away—he did not take the tobacco—I am sure he is the man</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-58" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SMALLMAN</persName> </hi>. I manage the Cubitt's Arms, Manchester-road, Poplar, for my nephew—on 8th January, the prisoner came, between 6 and 7 o'clock, for twopenny worth of rum—he tendered a half-crown—I tested it, and broke it—it broke easily—he saw me break it, and said, "I will give you another"—I said, "Very well"—he said, "Give me the remains of that"—I said, "No; you can take one part, and I will keep the other"—I gave him a small piece of it—I told him if he wanted the other pieces he must fetch a constable—he gave me a good half-crown—I gave him change, and he went away—I saw him afterwards loitering about, and sent my young man to caution my neighbour opposite—he came into my house again, and asked for twopenny worth of rum—I sent for a constable—he paid for the rum with a good half-crown—I gave him into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner Q.</hi> How long was it after I was in your house the first time that I came in the second time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About an hour.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was he smoking either of the times he came?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not to my knowledge.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 256). I took the prisoner on 8th January, in the Manchester-road, at a little after 7—he was not smoking—I took him to the station—on the way there, be threw something away—I asked him what it was—he said, "Never you mind"—after I had put him in the station, I went back to the place, and found this bad half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I received part of a half-crown, which I also produce—the prisoner was searched at the station, and on him was found 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers, good money.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-60" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>:—"I am quite innocent of having any bad money; I changed half a sovereign at a tavern, and when I went into Mr. Smallman's I had four half-crowns; he took one of them, which was bad. I went to look for a policeman, but could not find one; I then returned to Mr. Smallman's house and had another twopenny worth of rum, and stayed there about twenty minutes or half an hour, and went to a private house; one of the lodgers came to me and told me that a policeman was looking for me; I said, "I will go and see. "I went out, but the police man was gone; I had two glasses of rum in the Manchester Arms; when I came out the policeman was there, and told me the charge. I went with him without force; as I was going along, I threw away a piece of a pick wick I was smoking; that was all.
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and Hopkins put down a half-sovereign in payment, for which I gave in change two florins, five shillings, one sixpence, and 3½
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers—I am sure there was not a half-crown in the change—the change was taken from a shelf in the bar-parlour—Hopkins was sweeping the change off the counter and something dropped, which he stooped to pick up, and he then asked me for change for a half-crown—I told him it was bad, and took it to Mr. Edwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Hopkins. Q.</hi> Did you not give me 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. out of the till: for the half-crown?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I never gave you the change—I never give change first and take the money up afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-64" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-64" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY EDWARDS</persName> </hi>. I am the landlord of the Black Lion—I swept the change off the counter—my wife gave me the half-crown—I sent for a constable and gave the prisoners in charge with the half-crown, and the whole of the change.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-65" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MONK</persName> </hi>. I am a warehouseman—I was in this public-house, and heard Hopkins call for half a quartern of peppermint—he had some spruce—he laid down a half-sovereign, and I saw the landlady give him change—something fell and Hopkins picked it up—he laid half a crown on the counter and said, "Give me 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for this"—the landlady said that it was bad—she showed it to her husband, who sent for a constable, and gave them in charge—Secret said, "It is a d—d fine thing for a man to come here and treat another"—on the way to the station Hopkins dropped something, which was picked up by Secret.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Secret. Q.</hi> Did I speak to you at all then?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, you asked me to
<hi rend="italic">square</hi> it with the landlord.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-66" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN LOCKE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, E</hi> 143). I took the prisoners, and received some money from Mr. Edwards—I produce a half-crown—I told them the charge, but they did not say anything—at the station they were searched, and on Hopkins was found a half-sovereign and a sixpence in a purse; on Secret was found is. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver, and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers—on the way to the station Hopkins dropped a half-sovereign, which Secret picked up—they both gave me the same address.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-67" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-crown is bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Secret's Defence</hi>. I know nothing of this man (
<hi rend="italic">Hopkins</hi>), and never saw him in my life.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-202-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-202-18660129 t18660129-202-punishment-13"/>Confined Twelve Months each</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH WHITE</hi> (35)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-69" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-69" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH TREHEARN</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Black Swan public-house, St Paul's Churchyard—on the afternoon of 15th January a man came for a, glass of stout—he gave me a shilling, which I tried and found bad—he left the house and I sent our potman, Bull, to watch him—I had not seen the man before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-70" type="surname" value="BULL"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-70" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT BULL</persName> </hi>. I am cellarman at the Black Swan—in consequence of something said to me by the last witness, I followed a man out of the house, about one o'clock in the afternoon—he went first into a urinal by the side of the house where I picked up a piece of paper which he threw away—I then followed him round St. Paul's Churchyard to the end of Dean's-court where he found the prisoner—they walked together to Carter-lane—I called an officer's attention to them—I saw the man pass something to the pri
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<p>was close by her side and never lost sight of her—I saw her pass something through her dress and then heard something fall—she was standing over a grating at the corner of Carter-lane, in Godliman-street—I looked down the area and saw some packets—I drew the policeman's attention to it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was that which was dropped down the area wrapped in paper?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it one or more packages?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Five or six packages.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-71" type="surname" value="SAWYER"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-71" type="given" value="JESSE"/>JESSE SAWYER</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Stigerwell and Co., No. 1, Godli
<lb/>man-street; it is the corner of Carter-lane—on 15th January I was down in the packing-room and heard something fall down the area which sounded like money—I opened the window and picked up five small packages and three large ones—they were separated—I gave them to the constable.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-72" type="surname" value="BADMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-72" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BADMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 336). I was on duty in St. Paul's Churchyard on 15th January—I saw a little
<hi rend="italic">rumpus</hi> at the top of Godli
<lb/>man-street and ran up there, where I saw Bull with the prisoner and another constable—I went into No. 1, Godliman-street and I saw Sawyer at the area—he gave me eight packages; I looked in the area and saw another—they contained six florins and three shillings—they were in nine distinct packets—at the station she was asked whether she had been on the grating at 1, Godliman-street—she said, "No"—I told her I had seen her there and that I had found some packages of bad coin in the area—I had seen her on the grating previously to my coming to the end of Godliman-street.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What became of the man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not see him at all.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-73" type="surname" value="VALE"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-73" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN VALE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 341). My attention was drawn to the man and woman by Bull—they were standing in Carter-lane—I do not know what became of the man—I assisted in taking the woman to the station.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-203-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE GALE</hi> (26)</persName>
<rs id="t18660129-204-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18660129-204-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-75" type="given" value="HENRY ELFICK"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-204-offence-1 t18660129-name-75"/>Henry Elfick Dawson</persName>, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-76" type="given" value="HENRY ELFICK"/>HENRY ELFICK DAWSON</persName> </hi>. I live at 1, John-street, Homerton—the pri
<lb/>soner was a fellow-workman with me at Mr. Waite's, Camomile-street—on 5th January, shortly after two o'clock, we had a small quarrel—it was the first we ever had in our lives—there was some dispute about some work that had been done—I told him I thought he had wound some shutters up the wrong way—he said that I was a liar—I told him that if he repeated that I would give him a pat on the head—he did repeat it and I struck him—he then took up a hammer and threw it at me—it struck me and I fell—directly afterwards he appeared very sorry and tried to pick me up, but I would not let him—the hammer was on my anvil—it weighs about 4
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<interp inst="t18660129-204-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18660129-205-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Unlawfully attempting to steal 40 scarfs, the property of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-79" type="surname" value="GREEN"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-79" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GREEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 230). I was in Cheapside on the even
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<p>placed over a bundle of scarfs which hung upon a nail in the doorway—the nail gave way and the prisoner tried to take the scarfs, but they were fastened by a chain—finding he could not get them from the chain he ran away—I followed him and told him I was an officer and should take him into custody for attempting to steal a bundle of scarfs—he made no reply—I took him to the station—nothing was found upon him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-80" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-80" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am in the employment of Thomas Keys, 12, Cheap-side—on 10th January I was in the shop and heard the rattling of a chain against the glass—I went out and saw the prisoner running away—I went after him and found him in the officer's hands—we went back to the shop and found the scarfs still attached to the chain, but the nail had been pulled out—he had taken them the length of the chain, but could not get any further—they were my master's property.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was the nail above the chain?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The nail is fastened into the side of the window, and the scarfs were hung to the nail by an inner chain which is put round them for safety—I was two or three yards from the window.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>. What distance was the nail from the ground?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Three or four feet.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-205-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-205-18660129 t18660129-205-punishment-14"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES REYNOLDS</hi>(17)</persName>, and
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<interp inst="def2-206-18660129" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CARTER (19), </persName>
<rs id="t18660129-206-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18660129-206-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-206-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/> Steal
<lb/>ing 1 handkerchief, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-206-offence-1 t18660129-name-83"/>Edward Bird</persName>,
<hi rend="italic">to which</hi> REYNOLDS</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-206-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-206-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-206-18660129 t18660129-206-punishment-15"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-84" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-84" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-84" type="surname" value="BIRD"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-84" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BIRD</persName> </hi>. I reside at 35, Thistle-grove, Brompton, Middlesex—on 5th January I was passing along Cheapside, when my attention was called by a gentleman behind to my handkerchief being stolen, and that the two men had run down the side street—I followed them—they were stopped by an officer, taken to the station and charged—they denied it—they were searched and the handkerchief was found upon one of them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-85" type="given" value="JOHN WALL"/>JOHN WALL WEYMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 703). On 5th January I was in Milk-street and saw the prisoners coming down one side of the street—a gentleman was running after them—I took hold of both of them and asked the gentleman what they were charged with—he said with stealing a hand
<lb/>kerchief from a gentleman's pocket in Cheapside—they made no reply—the prosecutor then came up—I took them to the station and the handkerchief was found upon Reynolds.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Carter's Defence</hi>. I was in Milk-street, Cheapside; Reynolds came up to me, and asked if I could direct him to Spitalfields; I was walking with him a step or two, and was about to direct him, when a gentleman came and gave him into custody; I don't know anything of Reynolds, and he will tell you so.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-86" type="surname" value="REYNOLDS"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-86" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES REYNOLDS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner</hi>). I was walking along Cheapside, and seeing part of a gentleman's handkerchief hanging out of his pocket, I took it as I was very hungry; I went down Milk-street, and asked this young
<hi rend="italic">chap</hi> which was the nearest way to Spitalfields, and before he had time to tell me, we were both taken in custody; I mean to swear on my oath that he was not present when I took the handkerchief; I had seen him before some months back this was a casual meeting; I did not meet him until three or four minutes after I had taken the handkerchief; I met Carter in one of the turnings out of Cheapside; I believe it was Milk-street.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">EDWARD BIRD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know who it was that told you about your handkerchief?
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<p>catch them—he looked down a street and said, "I see them; follow me; "which I did—the whole of this did not occupy half a minute.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CARTER</hi>.—**
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18660129-206-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18660129-206-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-206-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted of felony at this Court, in October</hi>, 1857,
<hi rend="italic">to which he</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes, 10
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the property of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-89" type="given" value="ALEXANDER WHYTE"/>ALEXANDER WHYTE CATTO</persName> </hi>. I am the captain of the ship
<hi rend="italic">Beautiful Star</hi>, now lying in the London Docks—on Thursday night I was in the Minories on my way home—the prisoner accosted me—I told her to go away, I would have nothing to do with her—I went a little further on, and she accosted me again—she got hold of me by the coat, and dragged me round—I left her, and went into a public-house across and had a glass of beer—while I was there, another woman came in and asked me for something to drink—I did not wish to have anything to do with her, but when I saw I could not get clear of her, I said, "Call for what you want, and 1 will pay for it"—I put my hand in my pocket, and then found I had been robbed of my money—I complained to the police immediately—the next morning a policeman brought me some Bank of England notes—I told him the numbers of the notes I had lost, and he said that they corresponded with those he had got—they were not shown to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long had you left the
<hi rend="italic">Beautiful Star</hi> when you met the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I left at a little before 6, and the prisoner accosted me about 10 o'clock—I had been transacting private business between 6 and 10—I had only had a glass of beer during that time—I was perfectly sober—my watch was in my waistcoat pocket—I had some gold and silver in my trousers pocket, and the notes were in my coat pocket, in a cash-book—I had not been in any place of refreshment with the prisoner—I could not exactly say how long she was speaking to me in the street—she was talking to me all the way up the Minories—it was not more than ten minutes—I did not tell her what my name was—I had an over-coat on.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was your over-coat buttoned?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; it was loose—the notes were in my pocket-book—they showed above the book about an inch—the book was taken with the notes—my under-coat was unbuttoned also.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-90" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD STATHAM</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 554). On Thursday night the pro
<lb/>secutor came to me about ten minutes past 10—from information he gave me, I took the prisoner in the Minories, about half-past 12—I told her I should charge her with stealing a gold watch and chain and money, amounting to nearly 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from a ship's captain—she refused to go to the station—I got the assistance of a metropolitan constable, and took her there—she put her hand to her breast—my brother constable took hold of that hand, and I the other—she threw herself on the ground and we had a struggle, and then. I took these six 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. notes (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from her—we took her to the station in a cab—at the station she said the captain gave her the things—she gave a false address—the prosecutor identified the notes as his property—when I first saw him he was not intoxicated, but he was very much excited.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When you took the prisoner, was she drunk?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-91" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH CONLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, H</hi> 157). On Thursday night about half-past 12, Statham called me to his assistance—I took hold of the prisoner on one side—she threw herself on the ground and put her hands to her breast</p>
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<p>—I asked the other officer to take hold of her hand, which he did—I took hold of her other hand which was put up to her mouth, and took away six 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Bank of England notes—she gave me a severe bite on the arm at the time I was taking them from her—I did not see the prosecutor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-92" type="given" value="ALEXANDER WHYTE"/>ALEXANDER WHYTE CATTO</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). These are the notes that I lost—they are as they were when I put them in my pocket.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>:—"The prosecutor gave me the notes out of a book; he was drunk."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 36
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. the moneys of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-209-offence-1 t18660129-name-96"/>Charles Ravenhill</persName> </rs>.—
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<interp inst="t18660129-209-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </hi>; and</p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-210-offence-1 t18660129-name-98"/>George Alexander</persName>.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-210-18660129 t18660129-210-punishment-20"/>Confined Fifteen Months</rs> </hi>.
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<interp inst="t18660129-210-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>[Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1865.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., of William John Bellville and another, his masters,
<hi rend="italic">who strongly recommended him to mercy</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>, </rs>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-101" type="given" value="TITTUS"/>TITTUS SCHILDREKIR</persName> </hi>. I am a watchmaker, of 64, City-road, just across the road at Tabernacle-row—Union-street is a little further down Tabernacle-row—Union-court is a turning out of Tabernacle-row—to get from my shop to Union-court you cross the road, and it is the first turning to the left—it is 120 or 130 yards from my ship to Union-court, which is not very wide—there is a dead wall on one side and eight houses on the other—there is no passage through—there is a lamp just when you turn up the court, and another near Tabernacle-row as you go in—on 18th December, at a quarter to 7, or a little after, I went into my shop, and saw the prisoner at the counter looking at some watches—MR. Riesle was serving him, and Mr. Kreutz stood more at the back of the shop, not behind the counter—I went round the counter, looked in the prisoner's face, and then told my friend, Mr. Kreutz, to come in-doors with me—we went into a back room—I remained there about a minute, when he said something which attracted my attention—I looked through the window between the back door and the shop, and walked out again, and came in front of the prisoner, who had a silver watch in his hand—before I spoke to him, he closed his hand and went to the door—I went round the counter and followed him, crying "Stop thief"—there was a good light in the shop, three, gas lights—they burn powerfully to enable me to examine things—he pulled the door open, and I ran after him across the road, down Tabernacle-row, and I saw him go into Union-place, quite by himself—I am sure that was the same person who</p>
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<p>went out of my shop—I was twelve or fifteen yards from aim, I cannot say exactly—there was plenty of light to enable me to see—I did not run after him directly, because the top of the court is rather dark, I stopped and told my young man, who was behind me, to stop at the bottom to watch, and I would see if I could find him—the door of No. 8, the last house, was open, and a boy, seventeen or eighteen years old, stood at the door with a candle—I asked him if somebody had gone in there—he said "Yes," and I went right through the passage to the water-closet, which is on the ground-floor, on a level with the yard, and found the prisoner sitting on the water-closet, with one hand under him—I caught hold of him and said, "That is him."—he said, "I am not the man who took the watch"—he said this before I said anything about the watch—a neighbour of mine followed me, but I went first into the closet—I got the prisoner up from his sitting position, and his clothes was not disarranged, but his right hand, which was under him, was covered with soil, and there was a little dirt on it as well—he said, "You can search me"—I said, "No, I will wait for a constable"—he gave no reason for being there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Does this plan (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) correctly describe the locality?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I had only, been down Union-place once before—one side is small houses and the other alms-houses, but there is a dead wall—the alms-houses front partly on some waste ground—the entrance to them is in Tabernacle-row, close to Union-place—there is a little passage from Union-place at the side of the alms-houses—the man who took the watch had got across the road when I started from the door—we kept about the same distance apart—I lost sight of him at the corner of Union-place—I waited there till Mr. Riesle came up to me—I am quite sure the prisoner is the man—when I found him in the water-closet the first words I said were, "That is him," and I caught hold of him—he got up and said, "I am not the man; I have not got the watch"—that was before I said anything to him about the watch—that is quite right—I did not first accuse him, and say, "That is the man who took my watch"—I said, "That is him"—I did not accuse him of this theft and mention the watch before he said that—I did not accuse him of stealing the watch, and he did not then say that he had not been in the shop—I am quite sure of that—I said, "That is him, " and he then said, "I am not the man who has got your watch, "without my saying any
<lb/>thing to him about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you mean that before you said one word about a watch, he first said to you, "I am not the man who has got the watch?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Of course; I did not hear anything else—I cannot recollect saying, "That is he who took my watch"—I might have said so—I did not say, "That is he who has taken my watch"—I said nothing—I said, "That is the man," and caught hold of him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> That is the man that, "what?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> "Who has
<hi rend="italic">tooken</hi> my watch. "
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you say so?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he said, "I am not the man; I have not got the watch."</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-102" type="given" value="MB"/>MB. SLEIGH</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you net say further, "Who took the watch
<hi rend="italic">from my shop</hi>?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, not to him—I did not say anything to him you know; I only said he took my watch—I waited until a policeman came, and saw him remove the seat of the closet after the prisoner was taken to the station—we took up everything except the pipe—we removed the pan, and made as thorough a search as could be made—there was a mob running as soon as we got to the top of Union-court—I cried, "Stop thief," in Taber
<lb/>nacle row, as we went along—a lad told me that there was a man in the</p>
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<p>water-closet—by the time my friend came, there was a great crowd col
<lb/>lected, but we only stopped a minute at the bottom—nobody told me that a person had ran down the court—I saw it myself—a boy stood at the door with a light and I asked him if anybody had gone into the water-closet—he said, Yes, a second or half a second before I came up.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> And you went straight in, and found this man there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—the pipe which runs from the pan, was not taken up and examined.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There is an arm at the bottom of the pan, was that examined?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but the pipe was not taken up—the arm was not cleared out, but they put their hands in it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prisoner say anything about the shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-103" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH RIESLE</persName> </hi>. I am shopman to Mr. Schildekir—I was in the shop when the prisoner came in, at about half-past 6—MR. Schildekir was then out—the prisoner asked for a second-hand watch—I showed him about a dozen in a case, and then two more, which I took from the side of the wall—he continued to look at them, till Mr. Schildekir came in, who went through into the other room, and came back again into the shop—the prisoner then had a watch in his hand—I was going to put a gold chain in the window, when he ran out with the watch—I am sure he is the man—he was in the shop not quite half an hour—I was talking to him all the time, and showing him some chains as well—we were face to face—Mr. Kreutz had an opportunity of seeing him—he stayed by his side about ten minutes—Mr. Schildekir went after him, and I went and saw the prisoner cross the road—he went down Tabernacle-row into Union-place—I distinctly saw him turn round, because there is a lamp at the corner—I remained at the entrance of Union-place to watch if he came out—I saw him brought out of the court in custody—I did not see his hands then, but I saw them at the station—I had noticed his dress.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you quite sure he is the man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I lost sight of him during the chase—it was five or seven minutes before he was brought out of the closet—I heard them say that they had got the man, and I looked at him—I had no doubt at all—I did not lose sight of him before he turned down Union-court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HOW</hi> long elapsed from the time you got to the corner of Union-court till he was brought out?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Seven or eight minutes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-104" type="surname" value="KREUTZ"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-104" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH KREUTZ</persName> </hi>. I am a watch-maker, of 11, City-road—I went to Mr. Schildeker's shop on this evening and found the prisoner there—he had some watches in front of him and was looking at them—MR. Riesle was serving him—I got there at half-past six or a quarter to seven—I stood by the prisoner's side about ten minutes, but did nothing until Mr. Schildeker came in—I then went with him into the private room—I called his attention to the prisoner and he returned to the shop while I stopped in the private room—I am sure the prisoner is the man—I saw him ten minutes after-wards when the constable brought him across the road and identified him directly.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was he being led through the street by the police-man when you saw him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I am positively sure he is the man—I thought he was a young man whom I knew, therefore I looked at him sharp—I actually thought he was a friend of mine and was going to speak to him till I saw his face.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-105" type="surname" value="ROBERTSON"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-105" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES ROBERTSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, G</hi> 176). I took the prisoner—he was</p>
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<p>in the prosecutor's hands, in the yard of 8, Union-place, Tabernacle-row—his coat was buttoned close up—I searched him—I saw water-closet soil on his right hand—none of his clothes were undone—he had not the same coat on as he has now—this is a new one—he said, "I am not the man, I have got no watch"—I searched him and found a tobacco-pipe and pouch but no money—I afterwards examined the water-closet—a man took the seat off and raised the pan—we looked into the trap as far as we could see and reached into the pipe—the pipe was not taken up—it is what plumber's call a trap under the pan—it is in the shape of the letter S—we found nothing there—they are small six-roomed houses in Union-place—there is no thoroughfare through Union-court—there is a low wall and a timber-yard at the back.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was the closet what they call a trap closet?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I put my hand right down into the trap—it is something similar to this plan (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—there is a wall right round Union-place—there is no escape from it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-106" type="surname" value="HAYNES"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-106" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HAYNES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-sergeant</hi>). I was acting-inspector at the station when the prisoner was brought in at half-past seven—I entered the time correctly in the charge-sheet which I have here—it was half an hour before he was put into the cell, as we required another witness—he made no request to use the closet.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was he examined the next day before the Magis
<lb/>trate and admitted to bail?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-107" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-107" type="surname" value="RINK"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-107" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET RINK</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Henry Rink, of 7, Cotton-street, Mile End—the prisoner is my son—he was employed in the India House at the time he was taken—I heard of his being taken the same night—he came home from his business at twenty minutes to five—he then had something the matter with his bowels—he had been subject to slight cholera ever since October, and he had two fits through it, one in the water-closet and one in bed, and I had to send for a doctor—he entered the street door on this evening and went direct to the water-closet, without taking his hat off—he was in the yard half an hour, and I went out to see after him as I was afraid he had had another fit—he left home again to go to Mr. Cohen's, about a quarter-past six or nearly twenty minutes past; the hand of the clock had passed the quarter—he had ornamented a stick for the Rector's son, which he took with him and did not return again—MR. Cohen resides ten minutes' walk from me—I am a member of his congregation and so is the prisoner, who also occasionally takes a class in the Sunday school and he is in a bible class—he was going out later that evening to meet a friend—he is courting a young lady—in consequence of hearing about a watch robbery I got an order to go to the Cold Bath Fields Prison last week, after my son was taken—some persons were put together there and marshalled round the yard—I picked out one young man who resembled my son, and although he had had his hair cut short and was in the prison clothes, I identified him by the description as the man who had done this robbery; he was there for a watch robbery.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How far is your house from Mr. Cohen's?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About a mile; you go beyond Whitechapel to go to my place—I live beyond the London Hospital.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-108" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-108" type="surname" value="RINK"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-108" type="given" value="LOUISA"/>LOUISA RINK</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's sister—on the night he was taken in custody I remember his going out with a stick to Mr. Cohen's between a quarter and twenty minutes past six—I should not have known the time</p>
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<p>but my mother called attention to it as she said he was going too early, and that Mr. Cohen would not have done his tea—we have a clock in the room—it keeps good time—we keep it regulated by the London Hospital.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-109" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-109" type="surname" value="SANDFORD"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-109" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA SANDFORD</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of the Rev. Mr. Cohen, Rector of Whitechapel—I know the prisoner quite well as coming there—I remember his coming on 18th December, between half-past six and twenty minutes to seven—he brought a walking-stick for Mr. Cohen's son—he remained while I took the present in to Mr. Cohen, and waited for an answer—I brought him the answer and he went away—MR. Cohen was at tea then—he gene
<lb/>rally takes tea about five, but being Christmas time Mrs. Cohen was at the schools about some children's clothing, and did not come home till ten minutes past six—they had most finished tea when the prisoner came—I know the time accurately, because we had not had tea in the kitchen, and I said to the cook, "It is rather late"—I looked at the clock and said, "It is half-past six."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-110" type="surname" value="COHEN"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-110" type="given" value="JAMES"/>REV. JAMES COHEN</persName> </hi>. I am Rector of Whitechapel—I was once clergy
<lb/>man to Holloway goal—on this evening, as near as possible to half-past six, my servant brought me a stick—I do not say that from guess, but circum
<lb/>stances occurred in the house which enable me to fix the time with some precision—it is simply because we were delayed at tea—I have known the prisoner five years, ever since I have been Rector of Whitechapel—he belongs to my congregation and to a class which I used to conduct—I know him and his parents well—he has borne the character of a well-conducted, honest, moral lad during the whole of that period—I should think it is a full mile from my house to the City-road.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Which way should you go?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Up Osborne-street, past Spitalfields church to Shoreditch station, and turn up Castle-street, which is nearly opposite the station—the rectory is close to the church.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-111" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-111" type="surname" value="DODD"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-111" type="given" value="WILLIAM CHARLES"/>WILLIAM CHARLES DODD</persName> </hi>. I live at 8, Union-court, Tabernacle-row—I am a house-decorator and I follow the shoe line when I have nothing to do—on the night the prisoner was taken I was talking to my landlady, in my shirt sleeves, in her room—the street door was open and the back door—I was all in the dark—the prisoner came to me and said, "Would you let me go through, I am taken rather short," pointing with his hands to his stomach—I let him through—I went into the landlady's room again, leaving the street door open, and a second afterwards a gentleman came and asked me if I had let a young man through—I said, "Yes, to the water-closet," and he went through—the prisoner had not passed more than a second, not a moment, I had hardly time to get into the kitchen again—I had shown the prisoner to the yard door and went towards the kitchen again, and before I got there I heard the knock—I did not hear any calling out at the time I let him in—two or three gentlemen were standing at the door—the wall where the closet is, is, I should think, twelve feet high on one side, but on the side leading to the other yard it is only five or six feet—the alms-houses extend to the very end of Union-place—the five feet wall is the one that separates the yard from the next—our house is the last in the row—if a person got over the twelve feet wall he would get into the timber-yard—the wall immediately at the back is the same height, twelve feet—I did not let somebody else go through just before the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Could any person get over the twelve feet wall without assist
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—there is no entrance to the front of the Alms
<lb/>houses from Tabernacle-row—from the entrance to Union-court to the front of the Alms-houses is only the depth of the houses, which are two rooms deep, fifteen, sixteen, or twenty feet—our house is on the City-road side.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How does Union-court terminate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> With a wall twelve feet high—there is a timber-yard abutting on the end of Union-row.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you offer the prisoner a light when he came in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he said, "No, thank you"—he did not seem to press in the least—he knocked at the door and said, "Will you let me go through?"—I said before, that he came in as if he was really taken short, as if he was pressed to go to the water-closet.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Suppose a person, instead of turning up the entrance of Union-court, had gone up to the entrance of the Alms-houses, where would he have got to?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> To Tabernacle-walk—he could then have escaped or gone anywhere—there are some railings at the end, but he could get over them—there is not a proper thoroughfare—the railings at the Tabernacle are six feet at the highest part, and four feet at the lowest.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character</hi>.—
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-212-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL CRACKER</hi> (23)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS CRACKER</hi> (23)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-114" type="surname" value="SHARPE"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-114" type="given" value="JOHN EDWARD"/>JOHN EDWARD SHARPE</persName> </hi>. I am a watch manufacturer, living in Bunhill
<lb/>row—Samuel Cracker presented this order to me on 22d December—(
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "52, Cornhill, December 22d, 1865. Gentlemen, please send by bearer an assortment of best gold ¾ plate watches in hunting cases on approbation, and oblige yours respectfully, McCabe and Co.")—Messrs. McCabe are cus
<lb/>tomers of mine occasionally—on the faith of the genuineness of that ticket, I gave him the five gold hunting watches (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), worth about 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and an approbation ticket—they are mine.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Samuel Cracker. Q.</hi> Was that order presented by me to you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was handed to me by my assistant, and I looked them out in your presence—you were sitting on a stool—I think you had the same coat on as you have now—I do not identify the coat—I said you had a light coat on—I do not think I said I had seen you before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Cracker. Q.</hi> Are you sure I did not present the order?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-115" type="surname" value="RABBITTS"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-115" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES RABBITTS</persName> </hi>. I am a porter in the employ of Messrs. McCabe, of Cornhill—I know both the prisoners—Thomas was a porter in Mr. McCabe's employment under me—I am well acquainted with his writing—this order is in his writing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Samuel Cracker. Q.</hi> Do yon know me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, from coming backwards and forwards to your brother—I know that this order is not in your writing—it is your brother's writing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Cracker. Q.</hi> How came you to be familiar with my writing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You lived with me and I saw you write nearly every day and night as well, when you stayed in—you wrote frequently for your own amusement—I remember selling you two Geneva watches—I got them from a house in Clerkenwell, and paid for them—you paid me by instalments—I got several watches for you to select from, at your solicitation—I did not give a receipt for them in the name of McCabe; I gave my own name.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-116" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-116" type="surname" value="BOLTON"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-116" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BOLTON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Attenborough, pawnbroker, of Newington-causeway—I produce a gold watch pledged by Thomas Cracker</p>
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<p>on 23d December, in, I think, the name of Thomas Crokering, for 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have unfortunately mislaid the duplicate—about two hours afterwards, Samuel Cracker came in and offered a diamond ring for sale—I said, "Are you the man that pledged a gold watch here this morning"—he said, "No, it was not me, it must have been my twin brother—I then called in the police—I asked him where his brother was—he said he did not know, but he thought he had gone to Folkestone.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Samuel Cracker. Q.</hi> Did not you swear at the police-court that I was the party that had pledged the gold watch for 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I said I thought you were the same person, but when I saw your brother then I knew it was him—I thought it was you from the similarity of your appearance in general—I did tell the police that it was you who pledged the gold watch—it was you who offered the diamond ring in pledge.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Cracker. Q.</hi> Did I not give you a written agreement with the watch in my own writing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, it was a written agreement—I have mislaid it—I had it at the police-court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you produce the duplicate at the police-court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, at Worship-street, and at Stones-end—Samuel Cracker is the one I gave in custody for offering the diamond ring for pledge.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-117" type="surname" value="MOCABE"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-117" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT MOCABE</persName> </hi>. I am a chronometer manufacturer, of Cornhill—Thomas Cracker has been in my employment—I am not sufficiently acquainted with his writing to recognise it—this order was not written with my authority—neither of these three other orders (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are in my writing, nor did I authorise anybody to write them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Samuel Cracker. Q.</hi> Did you not say at Stone-end that I was the indi
<lb/>vidual that had been in your employ?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I stated that I believed so—I believed then that you were Thomas Cracker—you said that you were not, but I still believed you were—I cannot say that I have seen you in my establishment.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Cracker. Q.</hi> Are you sure that I am Thomas Cracker?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I believe so—I do not know whether this order was written by you, because I do not know your writing—this book which I produce contains some of your writing, and these are some tickets also in your writing—these tickets were produced by you every Saturday for small charges that you had incurred during the week—they were not always produced to me, but some
<lb/>times they were—I cannot swear they were written by you—I think you did write to me after you left my employ, but I do not remember the cir
<lb/>cumstances—I think this order does bear a resemblance to your writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-118" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-118" type="surname" value="MCLEOD"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-118" type="given" value="ALEXANDER"/>ALEXANDER MCLEOD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, A</hi> 457). I was called to Mr. Atten
<lb/>borough's shop by his assistant on 23d December—Samuel Cracker was there—Mr. Bolton said he had offered to pledge a diamond ring, having pledged a gold watch about two hours previous, and he thought there was something wrong or suspicious about it—he handed me the diamond ring, and I asked the prisoner what account he could give of it, and whose ring it was—he said that it was his brother's, whose name was Wilson, and his own name was Thomas Brown—I took him to the station and searched him—I found on him the four gold watches produced, four diamond rings, a duplicate of a diamond ring pledged that morning, and these four orders—he said they all belonged to his brother, but that unfortunately for him they were found in his posession; he had taken them from his house that morning to give to his brother—he said it was his twin brother that had pledged the gold watch—two days afterwards I took Thomas Cracker—I told him I should take him into custody for being concerned with his brother in forging and</p>
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<p>uttering a forged request for goods—he made no reply—on conveying them from the Southwark to the Worship-street police-court, Samuel said, "This is a serious charge"—I said, "It is"—he said, "How do you think we shall get on"—I said I could not say—he said "Well, we ought to have known better than do such things."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Samuel Cracker. Q.</hi> Did I say that we ought to have known better?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I am certain of that—you told me your name was Thomas Brown—the duplicate for the diamond ring is in the name of Thomas Brown—I saw you at Mr. Attenborough's shop for the first time—I never said I had seen you on the causeway talking to a tall man—I took the orders from your pocket—they were in a little book—three of the orders are directed to tradesmen, and one is not—you said they belonged to your brother.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Cracker. Q.</hi> Was I not at home when you took me into custody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I did not find any property on you—you had about 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in money—I told you your brother was in custody when I took you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-119" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES RABBITTS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). These orders are all in Thomas Cracker's writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Look at those little bills produced by Mr. McCabe, in whose writing are they?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Those are in the writing of Thomas Cracker.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Cracker called</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-120" type="given" value="LEWIS"/>LEWIS R. HILL</persName> </hi>. I am the governor of Sandwich Jail—I should not like to swear to Thomas Cracker's writing—he writes in a different hand now to what I have seen him write—this order does not bear much resemblance to the writing I saw of his while he was in my custody—he was fifteen months in my custody, and I saw him write then—he always wrote a back hand.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-213-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.**—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-213-18660129 t18660129-213-punishment-22"/>Ten Years' each in Penal Servitude</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against the prisoners</hi>.</p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-214-offence-1 t18660129-name-123"/>Henry Longworth</persName>, and stealing from his person 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. his property.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Sutton</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-124" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LONGWORTH</persName> </hi>. I am a collector, and live at 98, Brook-road, Dalston—on Saturday night, 20th January, about 11 o'clock I was going through Sydney-square, Stepney, four men knocked me down, dragged my trousers' pocket out, injured my arm, and cut my lip—I had from 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. to 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in my pocket—I called out, "Murder!" and "Police!"—I recognise Sutton as one of them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not you say before the Magistrate that you slipped down.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not remember—I was not knocked down—I had been drinking, but not with these men—I heard a woman say at the police-court "I was with Sutton and his wife at a public-house in the Mile-end-road, and the prosecutor came in and gave us some gin and some ginger beer"—I am not aware that I was in that public-house—I had been drinking—I do not know that I was in a very generous mood—the 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. were in my pocket five or ten minutes before I was robbed—I had changed half a sovereign in a public-house a short time before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know what public-house it was?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I think I went about a quarter of a mile before I got to Sydney-square—I have no recollection of having seen a woman in the public-house—I treated some one with gin, but I cannot say who it was—I left the public-house by myself—I cannot say that I had seen either of the persons by whom I was attacked, at the public-house.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-125" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRYDON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 4). I was on duty on the north side of</p>
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<p>Sydney-square on Saturday night, 20th January, about 11 o'clock, and saw the prisoners on the west side—two other men were with them—I heard Sutton say, "Let him have it," or "Give it him"—I won't be sure which—I know Sutton's voice—I saw them hustling somebody.—I went to the corner of the square, where I caught Sutton, and said, "Hallo, Sutton, what is this?" and the next moment I heard the prosecutor call out, "Police!" and "Murder!"—Sutton had just come away from where the prosecutor was—I saw the prosecutor fall—I was on the opposite side of the square to them—Ellis passed by me, and I made a
<hi rend="italic">grab</hi> at him, and said, "Come on, George, "but he got away; so did the other men—Sutton said, "Brydon, do you think I was going to rob the man? we have all been drinking to
<lb/>gether"—I went up to the prosecutor—he said he had been robbed, and his pocket torn out—he was then covered with mud—he showed me his pocket.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are those the prosecutor's trousers that you have there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—they have been under lock and key at the station ever since.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you any doubt that Ellis was there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> None at all, I called him by name.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-126" type="surname" value="PHILLIPS"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-126" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PHILLIPS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 126). I took Ellis on the night of the 23d, at the Globe coffee-house, Mile-end-road—I told him the charge—he said, "You know nothing about it; you was not there."</p>
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<persName id="t18660129-name-127" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-127" type="surname" value="NICHOLS"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-127" type="given" value="STEDMAN"/>STEDMAN NICHOLS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 433). I saw the prisoners together in the Mile-end-road on Saturday night, 20th January, at about a quarter to 9—Sutton had his wife and child with him—Sydney-square is about a quarter of a mile from where I saw them.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners' statements before the Magistrate</hi>:—
<hi rend="italic">Sutton says</hi>, "I have a woman in Court who was drinking with the gentleman at the same time I was, if you will allow her to say a few words."
<hi rend="italic">Ellis says</hi>, "I had nothing to do with it; I was in my place up to a quarter to 12."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sutton adds</hi>, "On Saturday night I left my work at half-past 6, and went home to tea—I went out with my wife, and we went into the White Hart, to have a pint of beer; the prosecutor was there; he said, 'This is the way to wear big boots. Will you accept a glass of ale.' He was in liquor; I said, I do not mind; 'then he got into the company of another man, who was also intoxicated, and they tossed for a pint of gin, and the prosecutor won, but the other would not pay; prosecutor paid for it; the prosecutor asked me the way to Bethnal-green church; I went out to direct him; we had some more ale on the way, and I left the prosecutor going towards Sydney-square; I saw him get into conversation with two women, and after
<lb/>wards fall against some railings; the constable, knowing me, came up and said, 'Where are you going, Peter?' I said, 'Home;' and was then charged with the robbery.
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-129" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-129" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK KNAPP</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Charles and James Weldon, of 130, Cheapside—on 16th December, the prisoner came to me and asked for some patterns of silk serge—he said he came from J. C. Kennedy and Co. of Saville-row—they are woollen drapers, and customers of our firm—I supplied him with patterns, and he returned in about two hours—he handed me a pattern, and said Messrs. Kennedy had selected one of the patterns and wished for the piece corresponding to it—I gave him a piece containing</p>
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<p>about ninety-six yards, worth about 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I asked him whether it was to be kept, or merely given upon approbation—he said it was to be kept, as it was to be sent to a customer of theirs at Liverpool, and he mentioned the name of Calvert and Robinson—an invoice was made out in the entering-room—he signed for the goods in a book, but I did not see him sign—we did not dis
<lb/>cover anything wrong until we sent our account in at Christmas—I parted with the goods on the representation that he had been sent by Messrs. Kennedy and Co.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have Messrs. Weldon a large establishment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; a great many people come there during the day—it was about 11 o'clock when the prisoner first called—he was there about ten minutes—there are others in the warehouse besides me—no one else spoke to him that I am aware of—the clerk that entered the goods is here—I had not seen the prisoner before—to the best of my recollection he had a sort of
<hi rend="italic">billycock</hi> hat, and a dark coat, brown or drab.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-130" type="surname" value="KIPLING"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-130" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE KIPLING</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Kennedy and Co. of Saville-row—I do not know the prisoner—I did not send any person to Messrs. Weldon for goods in December—no goods were received from them—they could not have been received without my knowledge—I post all the invoices, and had these goods been delivered, they would have come under my notice—I can say that no such order was sent from our house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you customers named Calvert and Robinson, of Liverpool?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I am not the only person that orders goods for our house, but all orders should go through me—the country order clerk orders goods as well—he is not here—all goods that are received by us are entered in a book called the "Standard"—I have gone carefully through that book, but cannot find any entry of these goods.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you able to say that no such piece was delivered to your employers in the month of December?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-131" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-131" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am partner to Messrs. Gagniere and Co. of 35, Golden
<lb/>square, woollen drapers—I know the prisoner—he was in their employ about July last—his duties were to pack up goods and send them away to the country—I know his writing—the signature in this book, "John Saunders," I believe to be his.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long have you been with Messrs. Gagniere?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I left them last July—I was away six months, and I have now gone back to them again—I was dismissed—nothing was insinuated against me at the time I was dismissed—I was only there on a job—I have been back three weeks last Thursday.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-132" type="surname" value="DYSON"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-132" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID DYSON</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the entering room of Messrs. Weldon and and Co. on 16th December, about 2 o'clock, Saturday afternoon, Mr. Kemp brought a piece of serge down, and asked me to enter it—he said that it was a good house, and gave me an order—the prisoner was present—I entered the goods, and wrote the name in this book, "J. C. Kennedy and Co."—the prisoner signed, "John Saunders"—I had not seen him before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was that the only opportunity you had of seeing him while you were entering that order?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I could not say what coloured coat he had on—I think it was a light one—he had a round black hat on.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you any doubt that he is the man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not the slightest.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-133" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-133" type="surname" value="SCOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-133" type="given" value="RANDALL"/>RANDALL SCOTT</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Messrs. Landon, of Burlington-Street—the prisoner was formerly in our employ—I think he left in the</p>
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<p>year 1863—I had opportunities of seeing him write, and I know his writing—the signature, "John Saunders, "I believe to be his writing—I have his signature-book here.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When did you first see this signature, "John Saunders?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At the Mansion House.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-134" type="surname" value="HANCOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-134" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HANCOCK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>). On 3d January, from information I received, I went to 24, Stafford-place, South Pimlico, with Mr. Knapp—I found the prisoner in a room on the second floor—MR. Knapp looked at him and said, "You are the man that came to Messrs. Weldon's on 16th December, and had a piece of silk serge," and the prisoner said, "You are mistaken"—I said to Knapp, "If you are not perfectly sure that he is the man, do not give him into custody"—he said, "I am perfectly sure he is the man"—I then told him I should take him in custody on the charge—he said, "I do not know anything about it"—nothing was found relating to the charge—I took him to Bow-lane police-station, and placed him amongst eight other men of his own height and stature—I sent for a man named Lewis to look at them—Lewis tapped the prisoner on the shoulder, and said, "This is the man; I am positive."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were there any policemen among those seven or eight men?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> All policemen in plain clothes—they are what we term probationary men.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-135" type="surname" value="LEWIS"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-135" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LEWIS</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Messrs. Farden and Co. silk manu
<lb/>facturers, Milk-street, Cheapside—on 28th December, the prisoner came to our warehouse with a pattern of serge, and represented that he came from the firm of Landon and Co.—he brought the pattern to be matched—he said it was to be sent to customers of theirs at Liverpool—MR. Farden looked out two pieces of serge—the prisoner only asked for one—they were entered, and as I was packing them up, I engaged the prisoner in conversation about his firm—I asked him if they closed on boxing-day—he said, "No"—I had a good opportunity of seeing him—the two pieces were made into a parcel and given to him—one measured ninety-five yards and three
<lb/>quarters, and the other ninety-five yards and a quarter—they were worth 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he signed for them in this book, "S" or "F. Frank"—I saw him write that.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You say you gave him two pieces, and he only asked for one?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He asked for one, but Mr. Farden wished him to take two—I had never seen him before—MR. Farden was in the warehouse during the whole of the time prisoner was there—he is not here—William Cooper, and Edward John James were also in the warehouse—William Cooper is here—the prisoner was dressed in a low hat and a jacket of a black and white mixture—he was in our place about ten minutes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Just explain that about the two pieces?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Porters and messengers are frequently sent from West-end houses to ask for two or three pieces of silk, but they generally ask for one, consequently we fre
<lb/>quently lose the sale by their taking only one piece, and we sometimes give them two—they are taken on approbation—these were sent upon approba
<lb/>tion—they slightly differed from the pattern.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-136" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-136" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-136" type="surname" value="COOPER"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-136" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM COOPER</persName> </hi>. I am a porter in the employ of Messrs. Farden and Co.—on 28th December, the prisoner came to their warehouse—he asked for a piece of silk serge to match the pattern he had—he said it was for Messrs. Landon—I entered the goods in a book, and the prisoner signed it—that book is not here—he remained there about ten minutes—I am certain he is the man.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you certain he is the man, although you never saw him before?,
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—sometimes a dozen different people come into our place in the course of a day—I think I recollect every face I see—I think I should know the whole of the gentlemen of the jury if I were to see them again—I should, if they were to come into our shop singly.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-137" type="given" value="RANDALL"/>RANDALL SCOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I did not send any person to Messrs. Farden on 28th December for silk serge—I should have known it if any
<lb/>body had been sent—no serge was delivered—when the prisoner was in our employ we had a lad there named Frank Kelly, he went by the name of "Frank"—the "Frank"in this book I believe to be in the prisoner's writing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What department are you engaged in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The foreign department—there are several departments—my duties in the foreign department are to roll, pile, sort, and weigh goods—the orders are generally given by the masters themselves—neither of those gentlemen are here.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALY</hi>. Would you know if any person bad been sent in the course of. business for these goods?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—everything that is delivered is entered in a book called the "Standard"—that book is not here—every description of goods is entered in it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-138" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). The signature "Frank" in this book I be
<lb/>lieve to be the prisoner's writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-215-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-215-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18660129-215-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-215-punishment-23" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-215-18660129 t18660129-215-punishment-23"/>Confined Two Years</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS LAWSON</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18660129-216-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="burglary"/>, Burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-216-offence-1 t18660129-name-140"/>Joseph Hill</persName>, and stealing therein two coats and a pair of trousers, his property.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. J. S. GRIFFITHS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-141" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BEECHAM</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 1, Gilbert-street, Clare-market, about 150 yards from No. 4, Portsmouth-street—about twenty-five minutes to 4 on the morning of 16th January I had occasion to go out for a doctor—I saw the prisoner standing by the side of my door—he then walked towards Portsmouth-street—I followed him—when I came from the doctor's I saw him—shortly after that I had occasion to go to the doctor's again, and I saw him standing a few doors further up, in a doorway—three or four minutes only elapsed before I went to the doctor's a second time—just as I was turning the corner of my street the second time, I heard a cry of "Police;"—I ran back to where the cry appeared to be, and found the window shutters of No. 4, Portsmouth-street down, and the window forced open—I next saw the prisoner in the prison-yard, where he was put amongst other men, and I identified him—I am sure he is the man I saw on three occasions.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you ever seen him before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I may have had some conversation with the policeman about the prisoner's identity, but I do not remember his saying to me, "Why the devil can't you swear to him?"—I will pledge my word he did not say that to me—I did not reply by saying, "How can I swear to a man whom I have never seen before—the prisoner was not drunk when I saw him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-142" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID DAVIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, F</hi> 82). About ten minutes to 4 on the morning of 16th January, I was in Bear-yard, Clare-market—that is about 107 yards from No. 4, Portsmouth-street—I heard a shuffling noise in a cab down the yard, and saw the prisoner come out of a cab on the off-side—I asked him what he was doing there—he said, "All right, policeman, I was only making water"—I went to see if he had been doing so, but could find</p>
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<p>no signs of water—I examined the cab, and found two new overcoats, and a pair of new trousers (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I immediately went in the direction the prisoner went—I saw another constable, and described him to him—about four minutes afterwards I saw the prisoner, and said, "This is the man that had the clothes in the cab"—he said, "How could I be in the Bear-yard, when I am here—I had said nothing to him about Bear-yard—I am certain he is the man I saw in the cab.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How far were you from the prisoner when you first saw him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About three yards and a half—I stood within a yard of him once—I followed him to the end of the passage, and then went back to look at the cab—I looked at the cab about a minute after I saw him</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-143" type="surname" value="HILL"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-143" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HILL</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 4, Portsmouth-street, Clare-market, and am a clothier—I sleep in the shop—on 16th January, I went to bed about 12 o'clock—I fastened the place up myself—a little before 4 o'clock I heard a noise in connection with the shutter-bars—at first I thought it was a police-man—I listened, and for a moment all was still—directly afterwards I heard it again, and immediately jumped out of bed, called out "Halloa!" and opened the door—as I did that the two shutters which had been taken down came against me, and I found that the plate glass window had been forced in—the glass was not broken—I missed two coats and a pair of trousers—these are them—they are worth 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not the policeman say to you, "Why he devil can't you swear to the man?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, nothing of the sort</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-216-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-216-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM MOORE</hi> (24),</persName>
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<interp inst="t18660129-217-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-217-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/>to embezzling the sums of 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 24
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. the moneys of
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-217-offence-1 t18660129-name-145"/>Frederick Wiggins</persName>, his master.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18660129-217-punishment-24" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 31
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">For cases tried this day, see kent and surrey cases</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 31
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Shee</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE RINGWOOD</hi> (36)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18660129-218-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="manslaughter"/>, Feloniously killing and slaying Grace Ringwood. He was also charged upon the Coroner's inquisition with the like offence.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">STRAIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BUTLER RIGBY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-147" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-147" type="surname" value="INSON"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-147" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN INSON</persName> </hi>. I live at 18, Green-street, Paddington—my husband keeps a beer-shop—on 9th January, the prisoner's wife came into my bar
<lb/>parlour somewhere about 9 o'clock, I could not say to a minute—she was alone—she was not sober—the prisoner came in between 9 and 10—he sat down in a chair, not far from his wife—I do not know that he said anything particular to her—they appeared very good friends—she sang a song, and the prisoner joined in the last verse—after that the prisoner began telling a lodger of mine that he had taken a contract that day in Mortimer-street—when the prisoner came in, his wife was sitting by the door, and he went and sat at</p>
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<p>the other Side of the door against the table—I cannot say how far they were apart—it is but a small room, twelve feet two by eight feet two—while he was talking about the contract, his wife interfered, and said she would not allow any business to be talked of in a public-house—he told her to hold her tongue—she called him a b—y thief; and threw a bottle at him, which held about three half-quarterns—it did not hit him, but fell in the fire
<lb/>place—this is like the bottle—he kept on telling her to hold her tongue, as he would not have it—she was very violent in her manner—she also used violent language—he insisted upon her holding her tongue, but she would not—the prisoner then jumped up and took a knife off the table—I then turned my back and went towards the door—I saw blood before I went outside the door—I then ran to my next door neighbour for assistance—when I came back, the prisoner was supporting his wife very kindly, with his arm round her waist—I did not see Mrs. Ringwood after she was dead.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did the deceased endeavour to strike the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not see her—my attention was called away—she was a very power
<lb/>ful woman—she used threatening expressions.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What do you mean by threatening?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> She threatened to hit him—I am sure she said something that conveyed to my mind the im
<lb/>pression that she intended to hit him—I understood it so, but I do not re
<lb/>member the exact expression.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was that the moment when he took up the knife?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> yes—I could not say whether she had gone towards him at that time—she had risen from her seat and crossed the room—she crossed near the sofa, and went to the fire-place, which were not so far apart as I am from his Lordship—I could not say whether there was a pewter pot standing on the table, which she tried to get hold of—there are no pewter pots there, only when we use them ourselves—I had not seen anyone eating bread and cheese—I cannot say who had been using the knife, I might have used it myself—I believe there was a cup and saucer, or something of that kind, which I might have been using—this room is a place in which we live—the deceased was a very violent woman, and frequently intoxicated—I have seen her intoxicated a great many times—I have seen her very violent to the prisoner—she was a great deal bigger than he is; a very fine
<lb/>looking woman—I have seen her strike the prisoner a great many times with her fist, and she has threatened to throw a pint pot at him—she has been taken to the police court several times for striking him, and fined, and I believe he has paid the fines for her—he was always very kind to her, and a most affec
<lb/>tionate father—he has nine children—I never saw him tipsy, not to say tipsy—he was always regular at his work—I cannot say whether the bottle was thrown violently or not—he stooped his head, and avoided it, and it went into the fire-place.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is this the same bottle that was thrown?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It is—it is not broken—it broke a little fancy bird—I do not know what the result of the charge was that the husband made against her—I cannot say whether she ever was imprisoned—I cannot say how far the table was from where the prisoner was sitting—if he got up he could reach the knife—I saw him take the knife off the table—he might have had about two steps to go to get it—he must have used it instantly—I did not see him use it—she was close by the sofa, and that is not far from the table—I cannot say exactly how far.</p>
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<persName id="t18660129-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-148" type="given" value="LEWIS"/>LEWIS MARKEY</persName> </hi>. I am an ornamental worker—on 9th January I was</p>
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<p>lodging at Mrs. Inson's beer-shop—I got home that night about a quarter to 10—I found the prisoner and his wife in the bar-parlour—she was sitting down singing a song—she was about a yard and a half from him—he joined in the chorus of the song, and they appeared very happy together—after the song he began telling me about a contract which he had made during the day, and he appeared very pleased about it—his wife objected to it, and said that it was not a fit place to speak of business in a public-house—he continued to talk to me about his business—she was very angry with him, and called him a b—y thief—then she removed from where she was sitting to the other end of the room; not the end at which he was—he continued talking to me about his business, and she took up a bottle and threw at him—this is the sort of bottle—it did not strike him—she called him a sly b——he told her to hold her noise, and no more of that—she attempted to strike him, and he took a knife off the table, and stabbed her with it whilst she was in the act of striking him—I cannot say whether he reached the knife, or whether he took steps to get it—it was almost within his reach—I saw the deceased in the attitude of striking him, but whether she did or not, I could not say—she was near enough almost to strike him—the prisoner stabbed her by a down blow—I saw his arm uplifted—I could not say that I saw the blow struck—I heard the blood gush from the wound like water from a tap, but I did not see any until I returned—I ran to fetch a policeman—there appeared to be a good deal of blood—this is the knife (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), and this is how the prisoner's arm was.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you known them for some time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have known the man for some months—he is very steady, and was very kind to his wife—she was a very violent and drunken woman—he took the knife up in the height of passion and self-defence—it was done in a moment—she was then in the act of striking him—when I saw the knife in his hand and his arm uplifted, I went for a constable—I saw no one eating—there were a lot of cups and such things on the table.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-149" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-149" type="surname" value="INSON"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-149" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN INSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). During the time the prisoner was in the bar-parlour I had not served him with anything to drink.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-150" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS STEER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-inspector, X</hi>). On Tuesday, 9th of January, I went to the Greyhound beer-house, 18, Green-street, Paddington, about a quarter past 10, and saw the prisoner there, Mr. Hammond, the surgeon, and the deceased, who was lying on the sofa and appeared dead—I directed Constable Jones to take the prisoner to the station—I followed directly after
<lb/>wards—Jones gave me this knife—a quantity of blood was on it, about half he depth of the blade—he was sober, but very excited—I told him he was charged with the murder of his wife by stabbing her, and that whatever he said I should take down and repeat again—he said, "I know what I have done; she was singing a song in the room. I said, 'Grace, do not sing.' I never intended it, so help me God; it was done with a knife. I only
<hi rend="italic">done</hi> it to protect myself. I was cutting some bread, and she slapped my face. I then threw the knife at her, after coming from the shop, where I had been making a contract for 31
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. I found her outside drunk, in Mortimer-street"—I then read the charge to him—he said, "With great respect to you, Sir, the writing is a lie, I mean the charge; I threw it at her.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you quite sure he made use of that expression originally, "I threw it at her? was it not, "I held it up to her?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I have not got the sheet on which I entered the charge—it was, "by stabbing your wife with a knife"—I am sure that was part of it—I have known the deceased about two years and a half—she has been at the police
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<p>four times for assaults—once for assaulting the prisoner—I believe he has paid the fines for her, he also became bail for her once—she was a very dissipated woman, and very violent when drunk—she was much more powerful than he is—he was charged with her upon one occasion, but discharged by the Magistrate—she was fined, and he paid it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-151" type="surname" value="STEPHENS"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-151" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT STEPHENS</persName> </hi>. I am a carpenter—I Was examined at the inquest—I think the prisoner is a decorator and paper-hanger—on Tuesday night, 9th January, I was called into Mrs. Inson's bar-parlour, and saw the prisoner and the deceased there—he had got her between his legs, resting her—he held her head with one hand, and his left hand he had got on the wound—he said, "For God's sake, do not all desert me. If I have done a rash act, in a moment of passion, for God's sake help me; don't all desert me"—I asked him what he had done—he drew his hand a little on one side from the wound, and I saw what it was—he said, "For God's sake, Mr. Stephens, run for a doctor for your life; fetch a doctor at any price, I will pay"—I went and fetched Mr. Hammond—the prisoner appeared very agitated and distressed—I have known him for nine or twelve months—he lived on very friendly terms with his wife, but now and then she was the worse for drink—I never knew the prisoner the worse for drink; he is as steady and sober a man as you would find in London—I had seen them an hour and a half previously to this.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> At that time were they both very friendly?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Both—he was in good spirits about having got his contract—when I went into the bar-parlour, he was endeavouring to stop the blood, and nursing her as well as he could.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where was the wound?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Just in the front of the lower part of the ear—just under the ear.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-152" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-152" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-152" type="given" value="GEORGE JAMES"/>GEORGE JAMES HAMMOND</persName> </hi>, M.R.C.S. I live at Paddington-green—on Tuesday night, 9th January, Mr. Stephens fetched me to a beer-shop—I went there, and found the prisoner supporting the deceased on the floor in front of the sofa—I tried to administer some brandy to her, but the woman was dead—I examined the wound, which was on the left side of the face, in front of the ear—it was under the ear towards the jaw—it must have been caused by the hand being raised above, and struck downwards—it was about two inches deep, and three inches long—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)is the sort of knife that would have caused such a wound—judging from the appearance of the wound, the blow must have been given with considerable force—this is a blunt knife, and would require great violence to cause such a wound.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you make the post-mortem examination?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I and Mr. Beale made it together—the knife went into the side of the cheek and then passed the cord of the jaws, chipping a piece of the bone off, and then into the neck, not from the outside, but the inside—what I mean by the wound being two inches deep, is that that is all that was visible, the external wound.</p>
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<persName id="t18660129-name-153" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-153" type="given" value="JOHN SAMUEL"/>JOHN SAMUEL BEALE, M. R. C. S</persName> </hi>. I live at 4, Porteous-road—in conjunc
<lb/>tion with Mr. Hammond, I made a post-mortem examination of the deceased—I found a superficial wound on the left side of the face, about two inches long—I traced its course downwards, and found that it had passed along the inner side of the upright portion of the lower jaw, chipping a piece off the angle of the lower jaw, about the size of a horse-bean: then it divided the internal jugular vein, just at the point where it communicates with the external jugular vein—in my opinion, death was caused by an effusion of blood into the windpipe—the back of the windpipe had been punctured by</p>
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<p>the knife—the depth of the wound was three and a half to four inches—a knife like this would cause such a wound—I should think great force must have been used—the wound slanted down to an angle of nearly fifteen degrees—probably her head was thrown on one side when she saw the blow coming.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was not this woman taller than the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; a stout, finely-built woman—the knife must have been held very steady for her to have rushed against it and caused this wound—I could not say that the wound was caused in that way—her liver was that of a drunken woman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You think the mischief might have been done by her rushing against the knife?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It might—I do not mean that a person by the mere motion of the head against such a knife as this would cause such a wound—it must have been with the whole force of the body: a rush.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Which do you think most probable?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That it was a direct stab downwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> If the bone had not given way would the wound have been so serious?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think probably it might.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received an excellent character</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18660129-218-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recom
<lb/>mended to mercy by the Jury.—
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<interp inst="t18660129-218-punishment-25" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-218-18660129 t18660129-218-punishment-25"/>Confined Fifteen Months</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIA FERMI</hi> (58)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18660129-219-offence-1 t18660129-name-155"/>George Dornbusch</persName>, with intent to murder him.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-156" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE DORNBUSCH</persName> </hi>. I carry on business at the South Sea House in Threadneedle-street and am the proprietor of the"Floating Cargoes Morn
<lb/>and Evening List"—I know the prisoner, I believe he is the proprietor of a similar publication to mine—it is called, "Fermi's List"—that purports to give the same sort of information as my "Morning List"—on Saturday morn
<lb/>ing, 23d December, about half-past ten, I was passing through the passage of Gresham House on the way to my office—it was a very dark morning and the passage was very dark—when I arrived in the middle of the passage, which is the darkest part of it, I felt several blows on my back accompanied by a stinging sensation—they were given from behind and I could not see anyone—I turned round, staggered, and fell down, striking a heavy blow on my left temple and left shoulder—the passage is paved with stones—I can
<lb/>not say how many blows I received before I fell—I felt a good many—after I had fallen the blows were continued over my chest and abdomen—at that time I did not know what the wounds were inflicted with—I felt several punctures, but could not imagine what it was—it was dark and I did not see anyone—I did not make any resistance nor attempt to grapple with my assailant, and at that time I did not think of danger—I did not lose my senses—I was lifted by some one and I then felt great pain in every part of my body, but mostly in my back—with the assistance of two persons I was taken into Mr. Sparkley's office on the ground floor—I was there undressed and then I found I had been stabbed—there was blood in several parts—I had on an overcoat, undercoat, waistcoat, shirt, undershirt, drawers, and trousers—in the lower front pocket of my undercoat I had this diary, and these are some of the papers I had in my breast pocket—there are three marks on the diary produced by the stabs; one is nearly through it—that diary covered my abdomen—that would, in a measure, protect the groin—the papers I had in my breast pocket were also pierced in several places—</p>
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<p>the police officer came into Mr. Sparkley's office and showed me two spears—I believe this is the one that came in contact with the pocket-book and was bent—I was taken to the police-station in a cab—I was asked there in the prisoner's presence whether I thought he meant to murder me—I said I thought not—at that time I did not know how many stabs I had received, nor had I seen my diary nor the other papers, and I did not like to throw out the worst imputation against him—when I said I did not think he intended to murder me, he said, "I did"—he then said I had assassinated his six children—I have never seen his children—I then had the services of my own medical attendant, Dr. Pettifer, and am under his care now—I had thirteen wounds in my body; three in the back, eight in the groin, one on the left hip, and one on the right arm—they are independent of the stabs I received in my pocket-book, in which there are three, and there are four to be seen in my papers—altogether there were twenty stabs—I have not spoken to the prisoner for the last five years, and I have been very careful to avoid giving him any provocation—my "Evening List"appeared in 1858, and the "Morning List" was transferred from another proprietor—it has been in existence seven years—it was commenced in 1854 and was transferred to me in 1861—I have now forty-two or forty-three subscribers, and at the time when it was transferred to me I had only twenty-two—I believe the prisoner's paper was established in 1852.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long do you suppose this occupied from the time you were first struck?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I should say about a minute and a half or two minutes—nothing was said during that time—I think I have known the prisoner since 1858—he has behaved very strange at times—when I first started my "Evening List" in 1858 he constantly interfered with me, and when he understood I was going to take that from the "Morning List" we had a very long correspondence about it and he endeavoured to dissuade me from taking it—I should say that he may be sane on some points, but on the subject of his list he is most decidedly a monomaniac.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I do not understand what you mean by "on the subject of his list," do you mean to say that the list contains nonsensical and absurd entries?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not his list, but his conduct in reference to it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you believe that at the time he was stabbing you he knew whether he was doing right or wrong?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe he was then under the influence of an uncontrollable passion, and that he did not know what he was doing—I believe he has an office on Tower-hill, but I have never been there—I have seen him on 'Change.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-157" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE COGDALE</persName> </hi>. I am a porter, employed by the Gresham House Company, Old Broad-street—between ten and eleven on the morning of 23d December, I saw the prisoner about midway in the passage of Gresham House—it was a very dark morning and it is a covered passage—it is a public thoroughfare from Broad-street to Bishopsgate-street—I saw him standing over Mr. Dornbusch, stabbing at his body—MR. Dornbusch was lying on the ground—I could not see what he was stabbing him with; it was something bright—he dropped something before I got to him—I caught hold of his hands—he said, "He has assassinated six of my children"—he said that three or four times—afterwards I went for a policeman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-158" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN JACOB</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City police-inspector</hi>). About eleven o'clock on the evening of 23d December I was on duty at the Bishopsgate police-station—the pri
<lb/>soner was brought there in the custody of John Kelsey—shortly afterwards the prosecutor was brought in by two gentlemen—he charged the prisoner with stabbing him in Gresham House—these two spears were brought in at</p>
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<p>the same time—I asked the prosecutor if he thought the prisoner intended to murder him, and he said he thought not—the prisoner then said, "I did, I did; he has assassinated six of my children; I have given him seven years to redeem it, and instead of getting better he gets worse"—he repeated that several times—the prosecutor appeared to be very weak and in great pain—the prisoner said Mr. Dornbusch had reduced him to poverty.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not he also say that he had not done any harm?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I believe he did say that.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-159" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES KELSEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 644). About eleven o'clock on the morn
<lb/>ing of 23d December I was called to Gresham House—I found two gentle
<lb/>men assisting Mr. Dornbusch up—I went a little further and saw the prisoner standing with a crowd round him—I said to him, "Have you stabbed that man?"—he said, "Yes, I have; he has assassinated my six children and brought me to beggary"—I took him to Mr. Dornbusch's office, South Sea House, and from there back to Gresham House, where I met the prosecutor with constable 630, who gave me these two spears—I searched the prisoner and found pinned round his waist under his Inverness cape this case—I asked him what that was for—he said, "It is what I carried those things in," pointing to the spears.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-160" type="surname" value="NESBIT"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-160" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN NESBIT</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>).
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long have you known the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Some years—his conduct has excited my attention—my opinion is that he has not been in his senses for some time—I have frequently heard him threaten personal violence to himself and to his children—I know that the six children alluded to are alive—on the night before this, he called me out of the Baltic Coffee-house, of which I am a member, and said, "I shall do it now"—I said, "Do what?"—he said, "You must consider me now as nothing; I shall strangle my six children, and then myself"—I re
<lb/>monstrated with him—I said, "You are a full-grown man yourself; do not, however, be so foolish as to do anything to yourself, and on all accounts don't touch your children"—I gave him good advice under the circumstances, and he left me—he was perfectly insane at that moment, and has been for a long time—this is about the fiftieth conversation of the kind I have had with him during the last twelvemonths.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he conduct this daily paper of which he is the pro
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He and a printer together—there was not much editing about it—I believe he went amongst the subscribers to his paper, but it was in a very extraordinary way—many of them could have come here to-day, but they asked me to explain the circumstances—I never heard him threaten personal violence to Mr. Dornbusch—I may tell you that I once went to his house with a Greek gentleman (three of us having undertaken the educa
<lb/>tion of his children) and we found him in the most frightful state of excite
<lb/>ment—he talked of "pitching" his children to Jesus Christ, and "pitching" them to the Christians—he is by birth a Jew, and his wife is a Christian—his children have been baptized into the Church of England lately.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you any relation to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; the idea of putting him under restraint has been the subject of very much discussion among us, but it was a most critical and delicate thing for us to interfere in.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-161" type="given" value="JAMES HENRY"/>JAMES HENRY PETTIFER</persName> </hi>, M.R.C.S. I reside at 50, Southgate-road, Islington, and am the prosecutor's medical attendant—on Saturday, 23d December, I was called to Gresham House, and I found him lying on a couch—I stripped him, and examined him in front—I afterwards examined him at his own house—I found eight stabs in the region of his groins, one on his hip, three on his back, and a small one on his right elbow—it was rather difficult to</p>
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<p>ascertain their exact depth, but the greatest depth I could find distinctly was a quarter of an inch, or, perhaps, a little over one third—these are likely instruments to cause such wounds—his clothes were punctured in many places—the stab that nearly went through the diary must have been given with considerable force—the wounds were not so dangerous as they would have been had he not been so well protected—the force of the blows, I think, was expended in passing through the clothes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Would these require much force to go through the clothes?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>:—"I reserve for the trial what I have to say "</p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-162" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-162" type="surname" value="RALLI"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-162" type="given" value="ANTONIO"/>ANTONIO RALLI</persName> </hi>. I carry on business at 9, Gracechurch-street—I have known the prisoner several years—judging from his conduct, I should say that the state of his mind is rather irregular—it is impossible for me to speak to his sanity, but he has so very often spoken in such a strange manner, that I should not consider him a very sane man</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you visited his house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I may have seen him half a dozen times during the last twelve months—I have met him in the streets, and he has wanted me to take his list</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-163" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-163" type="given" value="ANGELO"/>ANGELO USIGLIO</persName> </hi>. I am a merchant, of 88, Great Tower-street—I have known the prisoner many years by sight, but for the last four or five years he has had an office in the same house as I have, and I have had occasion to see him almost every day—I have always considered him not entirely insane, but certainly not sane—I should not consider him responsible for his actions.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he live with his wife and family?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think he did—I visited him once about two years ago—he lives in St. John's Crescent, New Camden Town—he attended his place of business every day—his office is on the same floor as mine—I saw him on 22d December, the day before this took place—he was just the same then, always speaking of other people's affairs—he had strange ideas of religion, and always wanted to talk on religious subjects—he never tried to stab me—he had no encouragement from me to talk on religious subjects—he did not believe in the immortality of the soul—he is of the Jewish nation, but I do not think he has any religious creed at all—on one occasion he came to me at the Commercial Rooms, and told me there was somebody in the office waiting for me very particularly—I went to the office, but could not find anybody, and went in to him and told him so, and said, "Do you know who it was?"—he said, "It was the cat wanted to get in"</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-164" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS DUMAS</persName> </hi>. I carry on business at 25, Fenchurch-street—I have known the prisoner for twelve years—I should say the world would say he is mad, in the sense in which we understand it, his eccentricities were so great—I think he was under the delusion that everybody was working against him and his interests—his excitement got the better of his reason.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Can you tell me if the circulation of his paper dropped off?
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I have heard so—I think he got poorer and poorer—I was a subscriber to his paper—I believe the printer edited it—he kept no clerk—on the occasion of his marriage, twelve years ago, he sent round a printed circular, detailing the circumstances under which he met his first wife—that is what first drew my attention to him—I have observed a certain excite
<lb/>ment in him if you refused to take a pinch of snuff from him—I could see there was a feeling of anger—he once applied to me for a post in my office—I pointed out to him that I had no occasion for the services of a gentleman</p>
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<p>of his attainments, he then went to his office and wrote an essay on "Commerce," in three languages, Italian, French, and English—I believe it was written correctly, and showed a certain amount of ability.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18660129-name-165" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-165" type="surname" value="RICHARDSON"/>
<interp inst="t18660129-name-165" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH RICHARDSON</persName> </hi>. I am housekeeper at 88, Great Tower-street—the prisoner has had an office there about four years—for the last twelve months I have noticed something very strange about him—he was very excitable, and I should not have been surprised if he had destroyed himself—on the morning of 23d, he came to the office and appeared very strange.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know his wife and family?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but not all his children—I have never visited his house—I have been housekeeper at this place nearly twelve years—he used to come about 10, 11, or 12 in the morning—on the morning of the 23d I gave him his key, and he gave it back again about five minutes afterwards, which was very unusual—I never saw these daggers before—he locked his door when he left—he paid me for taking care of his office—one day he had his desk turned round; shortly afterwards he had the man to put it back again into its original place—about two years ago, I told his wife that he was very strange, and during the last twelve months that strangeness has increased—I have never given information to the police.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi></p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18660129-name-166" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-166" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GIBSON</persName> </hi>. I am surgeon to the Goal of Newgate—I have had experience in mental diseases—the prisoner has been under my supervision about five weeks—I have had many conversations with him for the purpose of judging the state of his mind, and my opinion is that he is of sound mind—I saw him on 24th December, and he was then perfectly capable of knowing right from wrong.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you had great experience in mental diseases?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have had some—I know it is a speciality—I consider I have had much more experience than most medical men, as I have had all the prisoners under my observation for more than ten years, and I am frequently applied to by Magistrates as to the state of the minds of the prisoners.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-219-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">of unlawfully wounding.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 31
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1866.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the money of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">John Macfarlane</hi> </persName>.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-170" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MACFARLANE</persName> </hi>. I am a shawl-designer, and live at 8, Aberdeen-place, Maida-hill—on 10th January, about noon, I saw Snow at High Holborn, near the Hill—he asked me the name of some place, which I did not know—I told him I was a stranger—he said he was a stranger too, and asked me to take a walk with him—I said I had no objection—we walked along High Holborn towards the City, and went into the Black Bull public-house, near Holborn-hill—he asked me if I would have a glass of beer, and I consented—I offered to pay for it, but he would not let me—we went into a room by ourselves, and after we had been there a minute or two another man came in, who appeared half-drunk—Snow then went out, and I had some talk with the other man—soon afterwards, Snow returned with Turner and another man, and then Snow and the other man began to toss—they asked Turner to toss, but he said he had so little time that he could</p>
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<p>not—Snow thereupon asked me what the time was, and I took out my watch and told him—my watch was a gold one—the man who appeared half-drunk asked if it was genuine, and I said it was—Turner offered to bet two sovereigns that I was right—they then asked me to go and pledge it to test its value, assuring me that I could get it back in less than five minutes—before anything was done with the watch, Snow asked me if I had any money, and I told him only a few shillings—I went out and pledged the watch for 4
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LANGFORD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HORRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-174" type="given" value="JESSIE"/>JESSIE SWAEBE</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of David Swaebe—on 16th January I was a passenger in an omnibus to Cheapside—the prisoner sat beside me, and I noticed that her hands kept moving under her cloak—when we got to the middle of Cheapside, another passenger got out—the prisoner followed, and I directly missed my purse—my pocket was torn, though it had been per
<lb/>fectly sound when I left home, my dress being new—my purse contained a sovereign, three half-soverigns, a crown, some sixpences, and threepenny or fourpenny pieces, a pair of earrings, a watch-key and a bill—it was safe in my pocket not four minutes before I discovered its loss—it was afterwards picked up and given to me by Miss Flemington.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> At the moment the prisoner went out was there not another woman who got out too? A. Just before, but they were very close together—there was a cart not far from where the omnibus stopped to let them out, just at Bennett's door—I did not notice what became of the other woman—the prisoner sat next to me, on the side my pocket was—she was not more inside the omnibus than I was—she was sitting third from the door, and kept fidgetting about, as though she had not sufficient room.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-175" type="given" value="JOHN THOMAS"/>JOHN THOMAS HICKMAN</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of. the London General Omnibus Company, and was with my omnibus in Cheapside on the day in question—after the prisoner left the omnibus, the prosecutrix spoke to me about her purse, and I followed the prisoner—I said, "Here's your umbrella"—she said, "Thank you"—I said, "This lady wants to speak to you"—she said, "Oh dear, not me"—I told her she must come back, and she said, "Well, you need not hold me"—I took her back to the prosecutrix, who charged her with stealing her purse, which she denied—as I was bringing her back, we had to go round a cart which was standing opposite Bennett's clock—the purse was picked up and handed to me by Miss Flemington.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see where the other person who got out of the omnibus at the same time as the prisoner, went to?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> She stood on the step—she never moved farther than a yard or two until the prisoner was brought back.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 427). I was on duty on 15th January, about 3 o'clock, in Cheapside, and saw a mob assembled—I went and found the prisoner, the conductor, and the first witness standing up to
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<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>:—"I stood up to make room for the lady, and on the other woman going out, I saw the purse on the ground, and picked it up, it might be that woman's; then the conductor came to me, and I dropped the purse; I did not steal it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-180" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED CUSTERSON</persName> </hi>. I am a coach-builder, of 184, Old-street, St. Luke's—on 6th January, the prisoner called on me at about ten minutes to 4 in the afternoon, and said he wanted to hire a cart—I showed him one—he said that was not good enough—I told him I had not got a better cart, but I had a waggonette—I showed it to him, and he said it would do, and he should want it for about two or three hours, or it might be a little more—the value of it is about 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I told him the charge would be 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and he paid it—he had brought a very nice horse to the door—I looked at it, and asked him where he got it from—he said that it belonged to his brother-in
<lb/>law, a man named Thompson, whom I knew—I gave him no authority to part with the waggonette—I saw it again next day, Sunday.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> He told you that the cart which you showed him first was not quite good enough for him, because he was going to take a publican out, did he not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I had known him three or four years, passing and re-passing my place, or else I should not have trusted him with the waggonette—I had seen him within a week of his coming home.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-181" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CARPENTER</persName> </hi>. I live at Providence-place, Dockhead, and am a general dealer—about half-past 8 o'clock on Saturday, January 6th, from something told me by a man named Underwood, I went outside the Sugar Loaf public-house, and saw the prisoner and a man named Murphy with a waggonette—Underwood said to the prisoner, "Here's a man that will buy that trap of you"—I said, "I am no judge; how much do you want for it?"—he first asked 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and then he came down to 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I said, "It's too high a price for me; I can't afford to buy it"—Murphy says to me, "Oh, he means selling it"—"Well, "I said, "if you mean to sell it, I'll buy it, but not at that price; who does it belong to, to you?"—he said that he and his brother-in-law were partners; they had had a few words and fell out, and he wanted to sell it to get some money to pay his men—I asked him what tradesman he was, and he said a wagonnette polisher and horse-hair finisher—at last I agreed to give him 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he said he could get more than that on the Monday—"Well, "I said, "if you can, I will take 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for my bargain, "upon which he says, "If you come to them terms, you shall have it"—I said, I shall call a constable to see I have paid for it"—"Oh, "he says," you can do that with the greatest of pleasure—I then called a constable from over the other side of the way, and told him I thought it was stolen—he says, "you should not
<hi rend="italic">think</hi>"—I then said to the prisoner, "I had better ride to your house, and see where it belongs to, before I buy it"—"Oh, "he says, "you can do that, if you like"—my brother and a person named John Keane were with me, and we jumped up with Murphy, and John Underwood, and the prisoner, and drove off—when we got to Farringdon-street, the prisoner says to me, "Got any money?"—I said "No, I got no change"—"Well, "he says, I can get two pots of beer at this public-house on tick, "so we got out, and he went and spoke to a person over the bar, and got two pots, and then, as we were drinking it, Murphy says to me, "Look here, we don't want to hurt you, and you don't want to hurt us; the cart is stolen, "to which I said, "If it is stolen, so help me, God, I'll look you up—my brother went outside, and caught hold of the horse's head—Murphy and Underwood then ran away—the prisoner then says to me, "Where's Murphy and Under-wood?" and I says, "They're run away"—I said to my brother, "We had better catch hold of him" meaning the prisoner—I daresay he heard me Say that, and, instead of walking on the pavement, he walks out in the road, and then popped through the cab rank—me and my brother ran after him, calling "Stop thief"—one of his shoes came off, but, without stopping to pick it up, he went along by the Underground Railway, and jumped into the ruins.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You had not any money at all in your pocket, had you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I had enough to pay for five or six more such—I said I had no change, I meant no silver, no halfpence—I am a general dealer—I travel round the country with fish, oranges, and potatoes, and so on—I do not take my fish round in a waggonette—sometimes I drive a donkey, and sometimes I have a good horse fit for any gentleman to ride on—I did not before to-day state that the prisoner said he was a waggonette-polisher, or that he was in the horsehair trade—I did state at the station-house that Murphy said, "We don't want to hurt you, and you don't want to hurt us; it is stolen "—Underwood was not examined before the Magistrate, though he was subpoenaed—I know Underwood was backed for a match—I knew him because I had seen him often—the house they took me to was called the Mail Coach—I do not know that they went to several houses in Cam
<lb/>berwell before they came to me—they had a pot of ale and a quartern of gin in the Sugar Loaf, before they started—I paid for it with all the change I had—I did not say, "I believe you have stolen it, and I may as well have it as anybody else;" nor did I say, "If you don't let me have it, I will
<hi rend="italic">round</hi> on you"—what I did say was, "If you do not tell me the truth, I will call a policeman, and give you in charge "well, "—"he said, "you are not going to
<hi rend="italic">round</hi> upon us; you don't want to hurt us, and we don't want to hurt you"—the policeman whom we saw near the Sugar Loaf I believe has stated, that the remembered seeing a waggonette, but does not remember seeing us—we remained at the public-house in Farringdon-street five or ten minutes, or it might have been a quarter of an hour—I did not give the prisoner in custody, because he ran away.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you money to pay for the waggonette, if you had been disposed to buy it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I had 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and I should have concluded the bargain, if it had been all right."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City-detective</hi>). On 9th January I was in the King's-cross-road, and saw the prisoner go into a public-house—I had received informa
<lb/>tion before respecting him—I went in and told him, I was about to take him in custody for the unlawful posession of a horse and waggonette. in Farringdon-street, on the 6th—he said, "Yes, I know all about it; it was only a
<hi rend="italic">lark</hi>; I got it from Mr. Custerson, in Old-street"—I asked him who the horse belonged to, and he said, "MR. Stratton, of Sekforde-street, Clerkenwell"—I said, "I understand you offered the waggonette for sale to a man at Bermondsey"—he said, "No, I was taken down to Bermondsey by Underwood and Murphy, but we did not intend to sell the waggonette"—those are the words, as near as I can remember—I said, "What made you run away and leave it unprotected in Farringdon-street?"—he said, "Because the man we saw at Bermondsey was going to lock us up"—I took him to the station-house—there was nothing found on him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-186" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PRESTON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Harrison, pawnbroker, of Alders
<lb/>gate-street—I produce twenty-four table-napkins, pawned by Sheridan, on 18th August, for 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the name of John Radio.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-187" type="given" value="PATRICK"/>PATRICK SHERIDAN</persName> </hi>. I am a porter out of employment—I have known the prisoner six months, or a little longer—I pawned the things produced at Mr. Harrison's on 18th August—the prisoner brought them to me at a public-house in Carthusian-street, Aldersgate-street—I pawned goods for him several times in different names—there were marks on them, and I saw him take them off—I found him waiting in the public-house when I came back each time—when I came back and gave him the money, he gave me sometimes 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> sometimes 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for my trouble.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Do you identify those napkins produced as those you pledged?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> To the best of my belief they are the same—I have seen you sometimes rub out the marks, and sometimes tear them off—I saw you tear the tickets off these towels—I do any job that I can get—it is about eight years since I was in regular employment—I knew you before Mr. Logan went to reside at Hampstead-road, but I cannot say when—I did not know your name then—you never sent me to redeem any goods that I had pledged, nor that you yourself had pledged—I suspected that the goods were dishonestly come by, and I gave information—I mentioned it to a man named Walters—I could not understand it, you used to come into the tap-room and ask me to take things so often, but I was glad to get the money you gave me—I used to bring you every penny of the money I got, as you could see by the tickets—I do anything that I can earn a penny at, without asking questions—I never carry duplicates about with me for sale—you never asked me to destroy any tickets off the goods, you did it your
<lb/>self and threw them in the fire—I saw you destroy them several times.</p>
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<interp inst="t18660129-name-188" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BRADMAN</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Walters of Aldersgate-street, a pawnbroker—I produce twelve napkins, pledged on 17th August, for 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for Sheridan, in the name of Logan, also a piece of lawn pledged on 17th No
<lb/>vember, by the prisoner, in the name of Webb, for 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I was present with</p>
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