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<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>HALE, MAYOR.</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>Held on Monday, February 27th, 1865, and following days.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">WARREN STORMES HALE; LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN BARNAND BYLES</hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS QUESTED FINNIS</hi>, Esq.;
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-1" type="given" value="WILLIAM ANDERSON"/>WILLIAM ANDERSON ROSE</persName> </hi>, Esq., M.P.;
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-2" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq., Q.C., Recorder of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN</hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN JOSEPH MECHI</hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">SILLS JOHN GIBBONS</hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City;
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-3" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Esq., Q.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-4" type="given" value="ROBERT MALCOLM"/>ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</persName> </hi>, Esq., Judge of the Sheriffs Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS DAKIN</hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-5" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT BESLEY</persName> </hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SEPTIMUS DAVIDSON</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY DE JERSEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HALE, MAYOR. FIFTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, February</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1865.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES EDWARDS</hi> (17)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. SLEIGH, POLAND, BESLEY</hi>, and
<hi rend="smallCaps">NICHOLSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>;</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. METCALFE</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-7" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN WELLER</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the Appearance Office of the Court of Exchequer, Lincoln's—in fields—I act as the deputy for the Master—on 22d October, this affidavit was brought to me—the person was sworn in the regular form—the affidavit was signed when brought to me—it was sworn by the person who represented himself to be James Edwards—I do not recollect the person—a copy of a writ was attached to the affidavit, in the state in which it is now—I produce an attested copy of the affidavit, with the writ attached—I asked the person if this was his name and hand-writing, in the regular way.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You are not a Commissioner for taking, affidavits?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; there was no Commissioner in the office—I am deputy for one of the Masters—the Masters have power to swear affidavits—no Master was present at the time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you always been in the habit of swearing affidavits?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have, ever since I have been in the office—there is an Act of Parliament giving the Masters power to appoint deputies (5 Geo. II. c. 27).</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-8" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL WALLACE</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk to Messrs. Druce and Sons, 10, Billiter-square—the defendant was a clerk in that office—I am acquainted with his handwriting—the signature to this affidavit is his writing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you remember his having a holiday on 10th October?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I do not myself remember it, but I have been told that he was away at that time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-9" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED WITTEY</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Charles Hooper, of Southampton-build
<lb/>ings, solicitor—I was present at the Judge's Chambers on Wednesday, 30th November, the second day—I was not there on the first occasion, the 28th (
<hi rend="italic">summons produced</hi>)—the case was called on before Mr. Baron Bramwell, and the parties appeared—this copy of the affidavit was handed in to Mr. Baron Bramwell—the summons is endorsed by his Lordship, "Ad. Wednesday, G.</p>
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<p>B."—there was some discussion—the question was gone into on the summons, and an affidavit read in answer—Mr. Baron Bramwell then ordered the de
<lb/>fendant to be sworn, and he was sworn—the clerk who was opposing the summons asked him, showing him this affidavit, whether the contents of that affidavit were true—he said, "Yes"—his Lordship then asked the clerk who was attending the summons if he had anything to say—he said, "No, I have not;—I can't say anything if be still persists in saying that is true"—Mr. Baron Bramwell then said, 'This becomes a very serious matter; just pay attention to me;'and he began to cross-examine the prisoner—he said, 'Where did you serve the defendant? did you serve him personally?"—he said, 'Yes, I did"—he asked him whore—he said, "In the hall"—"At what time?"—'About twenty minutes to 12"—his Lordship then said, 'I can't help it, if he still persists in saying his statement is true; you know what remedy you have got"—his Lordship asked, 'Are you sure you did not give it to a lady,' or "a female?"—he said, 'No,' but I believe after-wards he was going to say that he did—what he did say, was, 'No, I am quite sure; 'he was about to say something else, but his Lordship did not seem to go further into it, and he did not finish the sentence he was about to make.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you remember the commencement of the sentence?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I imagine he was going to say something to the effect that he had given it to a female; he did not actually say so—an affidavit made by the Rev. Thomas Hooper and Mr. Spurrell in support of the summons was read by his Lordship—the summons was dismissed, with costs—I believe the Judge made an order for the prosecution.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-10" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH CAPP</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Baron Bramwell—I have produced the original summons—it is endorsed, "Ad. Wednesday, G. B."—that means adjourned—this is the Baron's writing—I administered the oath to the defendant when the matter was heard—he was sworn in order to be examined
<hi rend="italic">viva voce.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-11" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PRIOR</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Wilkins and Bligh—I produce a writ in an action in the Court of Exchequer of 'Richard Eve against the Rev. Thomas Hooper"—I gave that writ to the defendant on a Saturday, near about 8th October—he brought it back to me on Monday, the 10th, between 10 and 11 at night—I saw him endorse it on the 11th, "This writ was served by James Edwards on the Rev. Thomas Hooper, the defendant, on Monday, 10th October. James Edwards."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> He was not in the habit of serving writs, was he?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; not for me, at all events—I believe this was the first writ he ever served—he was not in our employment—I gave him also a copy of the writ—the copy would be served; the original would be brought back—he described to me a girl whom he bad seen at the house, as having red or sandy hair—I afterwards recognised her from the description he had given.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A joint affidavit of Rev. Thomas Hooper and Charles Spurrell was put in and ready in which Mr. Hooper stated that it was wholly false and untrue that the prisoner had served him personally with a writ of summons, or that said writ of summons or any process was served upon him; that he was absent from home on 10th October from 9 A.M. till 10 P.M. in company with Mr. Spurrell. Mr. Spurrell stated that he was in Mr. Hooper's company during the whole of the day in question, and that no writ was served upon him in his presence.</hi>)</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-12" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>REV. THOMAS HOOPER</persName> </hi>. I am a clergyman of the Church of England, and</p>
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<p>reside at Oaklands-house, Kingsdown, Kent, about ten miles from Dartford—a gentleman named Spurrell resides in my house—I had accepted a bill for the accommodation of a relation of mine—I remember the 10th October last—I left my house between 9 and 10 that morning, to dine with Mr. Spurrell's father, at Dartford—Mr. Spurrell was with me—we drove there in a light trap—I drove first to Farningham, which is about four and a half miles—I stopped there, and had the horse shod, and called on Dr. Ashurst—that was about a quarter to 11—I was not there five minutes; I merely told him to draw out a bill, which I would pay him on my return—I then drove to Dartford, to Mr. Gibson's—I arrived there at a quarter to 12—I stayed there perhaps five or ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour—I then drove to Mr. Spurrell, senior—Mr. Spurrell, junior, left me at Mr. Gibson's, to send the ostler to take the trap back—I remained at Mr. Spurrell's till 5 o'clock in the evening—I dined there—we dined about half-past 1—I did not leave Mr. Spurrell's premises till 5 o'clock; I might have walked in his garden—Mr. Spurrell, junior, came to his father's house about half an hour after I was there—he dined with us—I did not see Mr. Gibson again that evening; I saw his nephew—I saw Mr. Fooks that afternoon at Mr. Spurrell's—I arrived at home between 8 and 9 that night; young Mr. Spurrell returned with me—during the whole of that day I did not see the prisoner—I never saw him till I saw him at Judge's Chambers; I think, the last day in November—he never placed in my hands that day, or at any other time, the copy of a writ—there is a lady residing in my house named Margaret Godfrey; she is a relation of mine—as I was at supper that night, she handed me a sealed envelope—I do not know what has become of that, envelope—I opened it as I was getting into bed—it contained a copy of a writ in "Eve v. Hooper"—I believe this produced to be the paper—I sent it to my brother next morning—on 23d November, an officer of the Sheriff of Kent came to my house—I paid him a part, and gave security for the rest—I had heard that the matter was settled.—on 10th October, I called at Mr. Ashurst's as I returned in the evening to pay his bill, and his housekeeper handed me this paper (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—on 28th November, I attended at the Judges' Chambers before Mr. Baron Bramwell—the de
<lb/>fendant was not there; at least, I did not see him—the matter was adjourned till 30th November, that he might be present—on 30th November, I again attended before the same Judge—I heard the Judge say it was a serious matter; he cautioned the boy as to what he said, and then asked him if he had seen me, and he swore that he had seen me in my hall at Kingsdown, at twenty or twenty-five minutes to 12 o'clock—the Judge asked him if I was in the room, and he pointed me out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you any cure?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not at present—the last I had was about four years ago—that was at Kingsdown, where I reside—it was a curacy—the Rev. Samuel Dewey is the incumbent—I gave up the curacy, because he came into residence—the Bishop did not interfere at all; he interfered so far, that he kept me there three years, by arrangement with Mr. Dewey—I was obliged to bring an action against Mr. Dewey, and it was settled, and I remained there three years longer in consequence—the action was for defamation of character, and for an illegal distress—they were both Settled—it was about something I did not like, and which was not true, about a female servant—I had the curacy for three years after that, by the Bishop's sanction—I had a distress made upon me about three years ago—that was not an illegal one—I paid that; there were no others, that I know of; I am quite sure of it; nor any more actions—my brother,</p>
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<p>Charles Hooper, is an attorney in town—there had been other accommo
<lb/>dation-bills between my brother and myself before this, some time ago—it was to my brother that I sent this writ—I sent it the next morning, the 11th; I am certain of that; I sent it in a letter—I dare say my brother is here—I have not got the letter that I sent him—I can't say whether he has it; I have not inquired, or told him to try to find it—I did receive the writ on 10th October, but not from this boy—I told the Judge at chambers I had received it from Miss Godfrey; I swear that; I believe I did—I don't know that I said it to the Judge particularly, but I always admitted that I had received it from Miss Godfrey—I can't say that I said it in the presence of the Judge; I can't remember; I certainly never concealed it from any one—when I said in the affidavit that no writ or other process was served on me, I meant personally—I did not tell the Judge that I meant personally; the Judge would not allow me to speak to him; he would hardly hear me open my mouth—I did not know that the Judge would not set aside the order unless I had told him I had not received the writ—my attorney, Mr. Soper, was there with me—I believe he made my affidavit—no, I don't think he did; I think my brother did—he knew that I had received the writ that day; he must have known it, because I wrote to him, and sent it to him—my brother also made an affidavit—I have looked for the envelope in which the writ was inclosed, but I could not find it, and I could not distinguish it if I found it—I suppose it was addressed to me; I don't remember—I looked carefully for it—I don't suppose my cousin has; she would know nothing about it—I can't say when I told Mr. Spurrell that I had been served with the writ; certainly not till after I had been to the Judge's chambers—I don't think I mentioned the subject to a soul in the house—I took two little pigs to Mr. Spurrell's on that day—I gave them to Hilder, the gardener.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say you had the curacy for about four years; was that in the rector's absence?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I came to Kingsdown in 1852-3—the rector lived at Rochester at that time—there is no pretence for saying that any charge was made by him against me of an indecent assault upon a female—the matter between the rector and myself was referred to the Bishop—in the result the rector apologized to me for what he had said; and, by the arrangement, the rector was not allowed to come back into residence until the end of two and a half or three years—on the rector's coming into residence, I, of course, resigned the curacy—he could not have turned me out, if he had not come into residence; the Bishop would not allow me to leave the curacy unless the rector came into residence, and he did.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-13" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET GODFREY</persName> </hi>. I reside at Oakland's-house, Kingsdown—I remember the morning of 10th October—on that morning, Rev. Mr. Hooper and Mr. Spurrell left between 9 and 10 o'clock, I think—at past 1 o'clock, I opened the door to the defendant—he asked me if Mr. Hooper was at home—I said, "No"—he then asked me when he would be home—I said I could not tell him; he might be home early, or he might be late, and I asked if I could assist him in any way—he seemed perplexed what to do—he said it was a private business—I asked what station he came from—he said he had to be back again at the station at 2 o'clock—I said he would not be in time—it was then past 1, and the station was six miles from our house—I looked at the clock immediately he left, and it was half-past 1—before he left, he gave me a closed note, and asked me to give it to Mr. Hooper; that it was a private affair, I could not assist him at all—I am certain the prisoner is</p>
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<p>the boy—I think Mr. Hooper returned between 9 and 10 in' the evening with Mr. Spurrell, and I gave him the note—I did not leave the premises all that day—Mr. Hooper did not return until the evening.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-14" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES SPURRELL</persName> </hi>. I reside at Oaklands, with Mr. Hooper—on Monday, 10th October, I proceeded with him from his house to Dartford—we left early in the morning, about 8 or 9; I can't say exactly—we went in a dog-cart—we stopped at Farningham, and called on Mr. Ashurst—I remained with Mr. Hooper the whole day, except for about half an hour, that was about 1 o'clock, when I got out in the town of Dartford, at Mr. Gibson's—we dined at my father's that day, about 2 o'clock—I returned home with him in the evening about 6 o'clock—I saw nothing of the prisoner that day.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When did you first hear that Mr. Hooper had re
<lb/>ceived the writ?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I can't say; I don't suppose I heard much about it till the case came on at the Judge's Chambers—I came up with Mr. Hooper that day to Mr. Charles Hooper's, and made the affidavit—it was read over to me—it was ready written, and I went to some place, and was sworn—I knew the day before that Mr. Hooper had received the writ—I certainly knew it before I made the affidavit.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-15" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GIBSON</persName> </hi>. I am articled clerk to a solicitor at Dartford—on 10th October I saw Mr. Hooper at our office there about half-past 11—he gave me a cheque to cash; I did not cash that cheque, I cashed another one which I drew—I have the counterfoil in my possession; it was for 29
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he said he would call in the afternoon for the cash, which he did, about half-past 4 or quarter to 5, and I gave him the money.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you the cheque here?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I was told to produce the counterfoil—I remember the transaction perfectly well—my attention was called to the date by the counterfoil—it is a memorandum I made at the time—my attention was called to it about a fortnight after-wards.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you the slightest doubt about its being that day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not the least.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-16" type="given" value="WILLIAM ROBERT"/>WILLIAM ROBERT ASHURST</persName> </hi>. I am a medical man at Farningham—on 10th October last I remember Mr. Hooper calling on me, as near as possible about half-past ten in the morning—this receipt is my writing—it is dated 10th October, 1864; that was the day—I can't tell at what time in the day I wrote this receipt—I did not give it to Mr. Hooper myself; I gave it to my servant, and she gave it to him when he called for it—I wrote it in conse
<lb/>quence of what he said to me—he came to pay me some money; he was in a dog-cart; when he left my house he went in the direction of Dart-ford.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> At what time did you receive the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At 5 o'clock when I came home; it was paid to my housekeeper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-17" type="given" value="WILLIAM CRAYCROFT"/>WILLIAM CRAYCROFT FOOKS</persName> </hi>. I a member of the Equity bar, and am a brother—n-law of Mr. Spurrell's—I was at Mr. Spurrell senior's house at Dartford on 10th October—I saw Mr. Hooper there when I arrived; I think it was nearly 6 o'clock, or within half an hour of that time—I am very well acquainted with Mr. Hooper personally.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-18" type="given" value="RICHARD COLTMAN"/>RICHARD COLTMAN SOPER</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Hooper, the attorney for the prosecution—he was also acting as attorney for the Rev. Mr. Hooper in the action—I was present at the Judge's Chambers on the second occasion; Mr. Hooper was also present—I heard him make a statement in the de
<lb/>fendant's presence, as to how the writ bad come into his possession—he said</p>
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<p>it was given to him in an envelope by Miss Godfrey, his housekeeper, on his return from Dartford.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was he sworn?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I think all the parties were present when that was said—the clerk of Messrs. Walker and Bligh, who was attending on the other side, was there, and Mr. Wittey, clerk to Mr. Charles Hooper; Mr. Hooper was not present—nobody has been out of Court and told me about this conversation—I have not heard a word from any one; in fact, I do not believe that one of the witnesses who have come into Court has been out again—Mr. Charles Hooper did not come out—I have not seen him since the case came on; I wanted particularly to see him on other matters—not a soul has spoken to me—no one has mentioned to me any
<lb/>thing that has taken place in Court this morning—I am managing clerk to Mr. Hooper—I have not had the getting up of this case—I had the manage
<lb/>ment of the case in the Exchequer—of course I thought there was a good action; I think so now—that was not the reason for prosecuting this lad—I have not said so; quite the reverse—I have no doubt I drew the affi
<lb/>davit for Mr. Hooper—I did not know till afterwards that he had received the writ on that day; I knew he had received the writ, but I do not con
<lb/>sider the giving of it to him in a letter by his servant, to be a service—the Judge was told that he had received it on that day, by Mr. Hooper himself; I believe the words used by Mr. Hooper, as nearly as possible, were "On my return home in the evening between 9 and 10, Miss Godfrey gave me a letter, and in that letter was contained the writ"—I believe that was the first time I knew that he had received it that night—I was not surprised to hear Mr. Hooper say so, because I knew he bad received it; I did not take notice at what time—to the best of my recollection he had not told me when or how he received it; I knew he had received it in a letter sealed up; I did not know whether it was that night or the next morning—that was the only doubt I had—I did not inquire; I did not think it of importance; I won't be certain when I first saw the writ—I don't think Mr. Hooper showed it to me the first day he got it; I think his brother came to town some few days after, and then they showed it me together—I dare say I saw it within four or five days.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi> to
<hi rend="smallCaps">SAMUEL WALLACE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the defendant in the habit of serving writs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he had never served one to my knowledge—I am the managing Common-law Clerk.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">I wish to call your Lordship's attention to the Second Count of this indictment the first being clearly not sustained). It contains the words, 'And the said R. Eve shall be required to attend, &c, to show cause why judgment signed in the said action and the execution issued thereon should not be set aside, on the ground that he had not been served with any writ.' I appre
<lb/>hend that the judgment so signed, and which is intended to be set aside by Has process, is essential in this case, and should be produced. If there were no such judgment there would be no jurisdiction on the part of the Judge in Chambers—there would be no jurisdiction to issue the summons until there was a, judgment signed, and therefore that judgment ought to be produced.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">I submit it is not necessary; it is a mere step in the cause: the moment the writ is issued the cause exists. The Judge, having competent jurisdiction, issues a summons; upon that summons the inquiry takes place, upon which the perjury is alleged, and it is quite unnecessary to prove the signed judg
<lb/>ment, that is independent matter.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">You aver it in the indict
<lb/>ment; what proof have you of your averment of the judgment and the execution</hi>?</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">It is merely matter of inducement.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Would you be content to have it struck out</hi>?
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">No.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">How could the Judge have jurisdiction to issue the summons unless Judgment had been signed</hi>?
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">We have proved that there was a unit; all I contend that toe have to prove is that there has been a summons by a Judge in the cause, and on that summons the parties have attended: the matter of that summons surely it is not necessary to prove.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE RECORDER</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">How could a person's evidence before the Judge be material, if there was no judgment to be set aside? I am of opinion it is a necessary step in the prosecution to produce the judgment: that is not done, and it seems cannot be done, therefore, unwilling as I am that a case like this should go off on a mere technical point, I must direct the Jury to acquit the prisoner.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-279-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM HUNT</hi> (17)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18650227-280-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing a box and 71 lbs. of cheese, the property of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRY PALMER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Wild, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WARNER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Hunt.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-22" type="given" value="JOSIAH"/>JOSIAH THOROGOOD</persName> </hi>. I am a detective-officer in the employ of the Great Northern Railway—on 1st February I was on duty in Fore-street, and saw Wild carrying a cheese on his head—about twelve or fifteen yards behind him on the other side of the way, I saw Hunt—I followed them into Moorgate-street—prior to getting there Hunt came up and received the cheese on his head from Wild—it was enclosed in a large box covered over with a sack—Wild then followed up behind Hunt, about twelve or fifteen yards off, on the other side of Moorgate-street—they then spoke to each other and exchanged the cheese—I followed them into Prince's-street, and met 114, City-policeman—I said something to him, and followed Wild—I saw Hunt taken by the officer, and then Wild ran along King William-street towards London-bridge—I ran after him, seized bold of him, and told him I was a policeman—he said, "What do you want with me!' and he resisted most violently—I called on a bystander to assist me—I said to Wild, 'I shall take you across to your companion, and you will see what I want of you"—in taking him across, be suddenly put his left hand into his coat-pocket, and then with-drew it closed—I said, 'What have you got in your hand?"—he said, 'Nothing"—I laid hold of his wrist, bent his hand back, and opened it—in his band was a large signet-ring, with the engraving of a ship on it—I said, 'I believe this is gold"—he said I was asleep; I had got my eyes shut—I said if my eyes were shut, I could see him going along with the cheese—he said I was a b----liar; that he never had the cheese on his head; he said that he did not know Hunt, he had never seen him before—I heard the constable say to Hunt, 'What have you got here? 'pointing to what was on his head—Hunt replied, 'A cheese"—the constable said, 'Where are you going to take it to?"—Hunt replied, 'To Friar-street, Blackfriars"—the constable said, 'Where did you get it from?"—he said, "From the Underground Railway"—they were both taken into custody—I carried the cheese to Bow-lane Police-station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How for is Fore-street from Moor-gate-street?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> From the place I first met them to the extreme end of Moorgate-street is about half a mile—the cheese weighed 71 lbs; it was very heavy—Hunt tried to drop it on my toes—I don't know that the ring was not gold.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see the policeman take Hunt into custody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I can't say whether he made any resistance—I am convinced the prisoners spoke when they exchanged the cheese—the conver
<lb/>sation did not last more than half a minute—I can't say whether Hunt spoke to Wild first—I heard the policeman ask Hunt what he was carry
<lb/>ing—he did not hesitate before he answered—his answers were straight-forward.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. PALMER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the cheese down on the pavement when he was asked those questions?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; on his head.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were they in the way from the Underground Railway to Fore-street?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; quite a contrary way altogether.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-23" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-23" type="surname" value="GIBBS"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-23" type="given" value="THOMAS GEORGE"/>THOMAS GEORGE GIBBS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 47). I took Hunt into custody about half-past 7 on this evening—I asked him what he had got on his head—he said, 'A cheese"—I said, 'Where did you bring it from?"—ha said, 'The Underground Railway"—I said, 'Where are you going to take it to?"—he said, "Friar-street, Blackfriars"—I sent him to the station in the custody of another constable—in the mean time the last witness came up with Wild, and said he had seen him carrying the cheese, and that be gave it over to Hunt—he gave Wild into my custody, and I took him to the station—Hunt said nothing about knowing Wild—I took a ring from Thoro
<lb/>good—it is only a brass ring; not worth a shilling.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long before Wild was taken into custody did you see him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not half a minute; I was in uniform; the other man was not.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you took Hunt did he answer your questions with perfect readiness?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—the constable who took him to the station is not here—I was close behind him all the way—Hunt said at the station that a man had asked him to take it to Friar-street.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. PALMER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he say anything about the man asking him to carry the cheese, when he was first apprehended? A. No; I think not; I did not hear him—I followed him down King William-street from the crossing opposite the Mansion-house—I did not see the other prisoner then—I knew nothing at all about Thorogood at that time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-24" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-24" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-24" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS COX</persName> </hi>. I am a carman—on this day I drove my cart from Hibernia-wharf into St. John-street, Clerkenwell—when I got there I missed a cheese from it—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is one of the cheeses that was in my cart.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLLINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you quite sure that is the cheese you missed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am quite sure that is one of the same sort; there is a mark on it; 'L. J. R., New York"—that is the maker of the cheese, Randall—he is a large importer of cheeses—there might be hundreds of cheeses of that mark, but I am sure that is the same kind of cheese that I had—I had sixty to deliver—I saw a great many others at the wharf of the same sort, dif
<lb/>ferent sizes—I think there were some of the same size as this one—I did not go near Fore-street—the nearest to it that I went was St. John-street, Clerkenwell; three-quarters of a mile from it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What kind of cart was it you drove? A. A four-wheel van, like an ordinary carrier's cart—it was not covered on this day, no more than a tarpaulin tied on—I could see all parts of the cart—I have no other means of swearing to the cheese, but by the printed letters, and the name of the place where it came from.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. H. PALMER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I see here a chalk mark, was that on the box that day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have not compared the number—I can't swear to the number on the</p>
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<p>box that was lost—I was walking by the side of the cart—Fore-street would be on the way from St. John's-street to Moorgate-street.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> At what time did you arrive at St. John-street?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About a quarter before seven in the evening, and it was on my arrival that I missed the cheese.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-25" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-25" type="given" value="JOSIAH"/>JOSIAH THOROGOOD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi>) It was about ten minutes past seven that I first saw this cheese.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-280-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-280-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18650227-280-punishment-1" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-280-18650227 t18650227-280-punishment-1"/>Confined Fifteen Months each</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE HUMPHREY</hi> (39)</persName>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-28" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-28" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-28" type="given" value="JOB"/>JOB LAMBERT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-Sergeant F</hi> 14.) I was present before the magistrate when Thomas Pratt, police-constable 311 A. was examined—this signature to this deposition is his and also this one, which was taken on the remand—the prisoner had every opportunity of cross-examining Pratt—I saw him to-day at the hospital—he is ill in bed—the surgeon is here—(
<hi rend="italic">Pratt's deposition was here put in and read as follows</hi>;—'At four o'clock on the morning of the 1st of January I was on duty in Northumberland-street, Strand, and hearing some one walking in Brewer's-lane, adjoining, I went there to see who it was—at first I could see nobody, but on turning my lamp on I found the prisoner lying upon his face in some mortar, under one of the railway arches—I asked him what he was doing there I—he scrambled up, and I then saw he was very drunk—he told me he had lost his horse and cab—at this time sergeant Lambert came up, I told him what the prisoner had said and he went to look for the horse and cab, and shortly after Lambert re
<lb/>turned with them, and he told me to take the prisoner to the station-house—I did so, and he offered me money not to take him there—we walked together to the top of the lane, and there he turned round, and gave me a very severe kick on my thigh—he then walked about fifty yards, and then asked me if I was going to take him to the station, I replied I should—he then said I'm b----if you shall, and at the same time kicked me as hard as he could upon my shin, and knocked off a piece of skin as big as a two-shilling piece—he then threw himself down in a door-way—I stooped to raise him up, and as I was in the act of doing so, the prisoner struck me a violent blow by the side of my right ear on my head—I did not at the moment know I had been wounded, but the blood flowed profusely and quite saturated the front of my coat—I then found I had been stabbed—I after-wards saw that one of the figures upon my collar and the letter A had been cut—the sergeant then came up and with other assistance the prisoner was taken to the station-house.'
<hi rend="italic">Second examination—Cross-examined by the Prisoner.</hi> 'I did not say on my first examination that the prisoner was mad drunk, I said he was very drunk—he told me at this court, in the gaoler's room before the examination that a gentleman had given him a quart of whiskey and that he was mad drunk.—
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS PRATT</hi>.")</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-29" type="given" value="JOB"/>JOB LAMBERT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">continued</hi>). I was on duty at Brewer's-lane on this night—I saw the prisoner there, he was drunk—he said that he had lost his horse and cab in the archways—I told Pratt to detain him there and I would go and look for the horse and cab—I found it under one of the railway-arches at Charing Cross—I led it back to where I had left the prisoner and Pratt—I told Pratt to take him to the station, I saw he was very drunk, and I would lead the horse and cab up myself—the prisoner went very quietly into the Strand and then became, very violent—he commenced kicking. Pratt and</p>
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<p>threw himself down in a doorway—I saw Pratt stoop down to raise him up—I stopped the horse and cab and went to his assistance—I then perceived that his coat was saturated with blood, and blood was running down by the side of his face—the prisoner's face was also bloody—I said to Pratt, "Good God where is all that blood from"—he said, "I don't know whether it is from him or from me"—I did not see anything in the prisoner's band at that time, he was so violent—I held him down until after I thought his temper was cooled, I then asked him if he would go to the station quietly, and he said he would go with me, but he would not go with Pratt—I then directed Pratt to take the horse and cab up to the station and I would endeavour to get the prisoner there myself—he went for a few steps with me—at that time Baker, No. 122, came up and caught hold of him on the left side—the prisoner then commenced kicking Baker on the legs—he raised his right hand and I saw that he had this knife in his hand (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), there was blood on the knife—I noticed that at the time—I called Baker's attention to the knife, we took it from him and took him to the station—I then examined Pratt and found he was wounded just above the ear.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know if the prisoner's badge was found that night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was: 117 F. found it—there was a piece of tape on it—I could not tell whether it had been cut or pulled off—it was found in the Strand by Coutt's bank—it was not his proper badge, that had been lost since 1858: it was a badge he had no right to wear—I did Dot mention that to the Magis
<lb/>trate because it was not found in his possession, it was picked up where the scuffle had been.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was Pratt in uniform?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-30" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-30" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BAKER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman F.</hi> 122). I saw the prisoner struggling with Lambert—I laid hold of his left arm—he kicked me violently on the leg—Lambert took the knife from his right hand—this is it—there was blood on it at the time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-31" type="given" value="JAMES GROSVENOR"/>JAMES GROSVENOR McKINLAY</persName> </hi>. I am house-surgeon at Charing Cross Hospital—on the morning of 1st January I was called up to attend to Pratt the constable—I found him suffering from a wound near the right ear, about a quarter of an inch in length, it was a wound that a knife would inflict—I saw the knife at the police-court—there was a good deal of bleeding—he has recovered from that wound—he had an abrasion on one of his legs, the skin was taken off—it afterwards turned out to be a serious wound—he came into the hospital some few days after the injury was inflicted and he has been there since—he is now confined to his bed with that wound—the skin was taken off about the size of a florin—I can't give any opinion how long he will be there, it may be for some long time yet—it came to a very large wound afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>:—"I have nothing to say, excepting that I understood that Pratt swore before the magistrate on the first examination that I was mad drunk."</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH BRETT</hi> (26)</persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650227-282-offence-1 t18650227-name-33"/>Charles Hearty</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-34" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HEARTY</persName> </hi>. I am master of the ship "Boreas"—on the morning of 13th February I was walking along Lower Thames-street—I saw the pri
<lb/>soner on my left side, he pushed against me twice, the second time I felt a tug at my watch-chain—there were a great many people about me at that</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-35" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHEPHERD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi> 544). The last witness gave the pri
<lb/>soner into my custody, he had this rag of a coat on his arm, a thing of no use to wear—I searched him at the station-house and found 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on him—he gave an address which I went to.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I have got nothing to say.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a former conviction for felony at this Court in October, 1863, in the name of
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-36" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>Joseph Farrell</persName>, sentence Twelve Months.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650227-283-offence-1 t18650227-name-41"/>Mark Reynolds</persName>, and stealing from him 63
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>—2nd Count, Feloniously receiving the same.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. METCALFE</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">ORRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HARRY</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PALMER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Coster and Tyler.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-42" type="surname" value="REYNOLDS"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-42" type="given" value="MARK"/>MARK REYNOLDS</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 2, Horseferry
<lb/>branch-road—I am in my 82nd year—I am a messenger in the employ of Ricketts, Smith and Co., coal merchants—they have places in the Horseferry-road, in Mile End and in the Commercial-road—on Wednesday evening, 21st December, about six o'clock I was carrying a leather-bag containing 63
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I left Mile End about ten minutes to six to bring the money to the Commercial-road—a lad named Stevens went with me and saw me safe as far as the corner of the Horse
<lb/>ferrry-banch-road—I walked as straight as I could come from Mile End to that place—it is about a mile and a quarter I should think—I was in the habit of taking money every evening—I have been accustomed to go the same route at times for the last three or four years—when I got about thirty yards from the Horseferry-road, within twenty yards of the counting-house, I heard some persons behind me—they put something wet over my face, pulled me back, threw me down and then kicked me—the bag was torn from me—I had got my umbrella through the handle of it—they tore that away when I was on the ground, and I saw one of them run across the Commer
<lb/>cial-road with it—I called, 'Murder!' and "Stop thief!' and followed him as close as I could—when I got within a few yards of him, he got in amongst a mob of people who were singing—just before he got on to the kerb I was within ten yards of him—the string of the bag hung at his leg and I caught his side face, and I believe it to be the prisoner Coster—I am quite certain of it—I had known him before—he has worked for the firm as coal-porter—I have no doubt at all about his being the man—I saw the girl Smith standing amongst the people and 1 asked her which way the man went with the leather-bag—she said, "That way"—pointing in the contrary way to which the man ran—I do not recognise either of the other prisoners—there</p>
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<p>were certainly two men attacked me—one held me and put the treacle on my face and the other pulled the bag from me—I saw nothing more of the bag that night.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What was this substance that was put on your face?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Rag and treacle—it was put right over my eyes—I was walking on the pavement close to the fence—I did not hear them coming behind, being a little deaf—the treacle was damp—I suppose I wiped my eyes when I got up—I did not stop to use a pocket-handkerchief—I could see my way across the road—I saw the man going across the road quite plain—I fetch the money every night from one office to the other—the amount varied—I have known Coster a twelvemonth perhaps—the bag was heavy, there were 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of copper tied up in 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. packets, and about 58
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in silver—the string that was tied to the bag hung at the man's legs, and he could not run very fast—I lost him in the crowd—I know which way he went, because afterwards I turned round and saw two people running up the road—I gave information to the police that very night—I did not say anything about Coster that night—I said I had been robbed and they sent a private policeman home with me—I did not say a word about Coster being the man at the station, but when the policeman came home with me I did—I told my wife and she told him—my wife is not here—I did not say anything at the station about suspecting Coster—I did not wish to tell anybody, in the presence of a lot of people, because it would prevent his being taken—I thought we should find him the next morning—I was excited and very angry at being knocked down—I and the policeman went down the York-road together to see if we could find any one—the policeman asked me if I could form an idea of the man, and I said to my wife, "Mother, I think it is that
<hi rend="italic">chap</hi> who stood about here lame"—I told the policeman who Coster was—I did not know anybody else—I might have said when I was first examined that I was not quite certain about Coster—I am quite certain about him now—the reason I have not mentioned it so many times is because I have always been afraid of being knocked about by the other coal-porters, his friends.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-43" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I live at 7, Albert-street, Mile End, and am in the employment of Ricketts, Smith and Co.—I put the money into the bag for the last witness, 63
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I counted it over, that was about a quarter to six or six—he took it on his back—I went with him as far as Horseferry branch-road—I left him there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you go with him every evening?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-44" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-44" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-44" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM McGENNETT</persName> </hi>. I live at 86, Eastfield-street, Limehouse—on 21st December I was potman at the Hope and Anchor, public-house, Horse-ferry-branch—I saw the two male prisoners there on that day—it was between 2 and 3 o'clock when I first saw Coster—the other one a little later—I knew Coster by seeing him there—I left them there at 5 o'clock, both sitting together in the taproom—there were other persons passing in and out—there were no people sitting there with them when I left—I went home to tea, and returned about a quarter to 6—I believe I then saw both of them standing at the top of the Horseferry-branch-road—Coster I am sure was there—I will not be sure about the other man—York-road is directly opposite where they were standing—at the same time I saw two women standing in the York-road, about 30 or 40 yards perhaps from the men; the width of the road.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Coster comes in to have a pint of beer sometimes at your public-house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have known him to do so—I have seen him there every day for some time—I don't swear to the women, or to Hurley—I am</p>
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<p>certain it was Coster I saw at the top of the road—that is not a great way from the public-house—I did not see him walk then—he has been lame—I believe he was not lame then.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALPE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long before that had he been lame?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It might be a month or two months—I have seen him with a crutch and I have seen him lame since be left off the crutch—the last time I saw him lame was about a month ago.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-45" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-45" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WISDALE</persName> </hi>. I live at 11, Edward-street, Limehouse, and am a breaksman in the employ of the Regent's Canal Company—on the evening of 21st December I was passing down the Commercial-road—about a quarter-past 6, as near as I can guess, I was passing the Horseferry-branch-road and saw two women standing on the York-road side—directly I passed them I met a man coming round the corner, from the Commercial-road, with some-thing bulky under his left arm under his coat—I could not say what it was—he walked quickly round the corner as he passed me—I looked round and saw him hand something to the two women I had seen—what it was I could not see—they dropped it and then stooped and picked it quickly up and then went quickly up the York-road together—that was all I saw—I passed along the Commercial-road, and saw Mr. Reynolds coming across the road with other people—he was calling out "Stop thief" and "Murder"—that was about a minute after I had seen the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know who the man was with the bundle?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I had not sight enough of him—all I can say is that he had a light coat on—I passed him as close as I could pass—the pathway is very narrow just there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You cannot speak to the women either?
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> No, I only saw the backs of them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-46" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-46" type="surname" value="BACKWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-46" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE BACKWAY</persName> </hi>. I live at 2, York-road—two doors from the Com
<lb/>mercial-road—on 21st December I saw the two female prisoners there—they asked me to allow them to go through into the yard—I said my mistress, would not allow any one to go there—I had seen them before—I knew them by sight—they did not say anything further—Tyler had something bulky, which she was carrying under her cloak or shawl, but I could not tell what it was—our house is a company house—a house of accommodation—I saw a man run past, just before the women spoke to me—just as they went from the door Mr. Reynolds Came up with some treacle running down his face.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You don't know the man who ran past?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I supposed the women wanted to go to the back for a private purpose—I con
<lb/>cluded it was that—they crossed over the road and vent under the railway arch, up the York-road.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-47" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-47" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-47" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 253). On 21st December, about a quarter to 8, Reynolds came to me at the King David-lane station, and in con-sequence of what he said I went down the Horseferry-branch-road—on 23rd January, about 3 in the afternoon, I took Mary Ann Smith into custody, at the Bedford Arms, Bedford-street—she was the first of the prisoners taken—I told her she was charged, with two others, with stealing a bag contain
<lb/>ing money from Mr. Rickett's man on 21st December in the Commercial-road—she said "Yes, I had 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. out of it, Bill Hurley bad 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., Sam Coster and Jane Tyler had the remainder, and I shall turn Queen's evidence and tell the truth about it"—on the same evening, about 7 o'clock, I took Coster and Tyler at No. 8, Ingle-street, Shacklewell—they were together, living in a room—I told them what they were charged with—Coster said he knew nothing about it, and Tyler made no reply—I said, "You have got</p>
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<p>a house full of new furniture here"—it was new—Coster said, "Yes, these are ready-furnished lodgings'—at that time the landlady of the house came in, and Coster said to her, "I had this room of you ready furnished"—she said, "No, it is your own furniture"—I then made a search, and under the bed, between the bed and the mattress I found a purse containing 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and a receipt—I asked Coster what it was, and he said, "That is the bill for this furniture"—(
<hi rend="italic">This being read, contained different articles of furni
<lb/>ture, amounting altogether to</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.;
<hi rend="italic">date</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th December</hi>, 1864)—between the time Reynolds made the complaint to me and 23rd January, I had been looking for Coster—I had been to all his usual haunts—I knew him before—he had been lame before 21st December—I know of his using a crutch some time before that.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know that he had been working at Stone-house wharf, Ratcliff?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I have known him for these two years, up to the present time—he met with an Accident, I should think about eighteen months ago—I had seen him on crutches repeatedly up to the last three or four months—he did not say, "We furnished the lodgings"—he said nothing about paying 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a-week.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Smith. Q.</hi> Was I not locked up on the Saturday night before you took me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have been told so since—I did not know it at the time—you were not in liquor when I took you.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you get Coster's address from anybody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, from the prisoner Tyler's sister.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-48" type="surname" value="BACKWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-48" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE BACKWAY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi>) The man I saw run past appeared to be a taller man than either of the prisoners—he ran very fast—he appeared to be a taller man than Coster.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 105). I took Hurley about half-past 7 on the morning of 13th February—I said, "Bill, I want you for being concerned with Coster and the two girls in robbing a man in the Horseferry-road"—I also said, "Mind what you say, as it will be given in evidence against you"—he said, "Well, I was there, but so help me God I had nothing to do with it, and I don't believe the other man had"—the other prisoners had been committed at that time—I had been looking for Hurley previously—I commenced a day or two after the robbery in consequence of information—I had not been to his house—I did not know where he lived—I had been to other places where I thought I should find him, and was not able to do so till 15th February.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HURLEY</hi>. You said I want you Kill for that job of Coster's.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PALMER</hi> (to
<hi rend="smallCaps">MARK REYNOLDS</hi>).
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know of a subscription being raised for Coster when he had this accident? I do not—I have heard there was a raffle at a public-house to get money for his counsel—he has been what we call a
<hi rend="italic">scurf</hi> amongst the coal-owners—just worked for a day or half a day now and then, but not regularly for our firm.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Smith's Defence.</hi> On the night the old gentleman says he was robbed, I neither saw Coster or the other one. I don't know
<hi rend="italic">Bill</hi> Hurley at all what the policeman said about me is false.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The following Prisoners</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>:—</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutors.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, February</hi> 27
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1860.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution and</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WARNER SLEIGH</hi>,
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a half-crown—I put it in my pocket—there was no other half-crown there—I took it out about five minutes after-wards and found it was bad—on the following Thursday, the 9th, she came again and asked for the same—I recognized her immediately, and waited to see what she would give me—she gave me a half-crown—I detected it at once and said, "You were here last Tuesday morning and gave me a bad half-crown, and you are here again this morning and have given me another"—she said, "Yes, I know I was here last Tuesday, and did give you a bad half-crown"—I sent for one of the market-beadles and gave her in custody with the half-crown.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you call anybody to your assistance?
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you going to empty your pockets when you found the first half-crown was bad?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I only had that one half-crown—I first saw the prisoner on Saturday, but do not remember whether I took any money of her then, or what she paid.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did she come in for breakfast on the Saturday in the ordinary way?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and she may have given me the other half-crown—a good half-crown was found in the prisoner's hand, which she gave to the constable at once.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-64" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LEAKEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, F</hi> 104). On 9th February I was called and took the prisoner in custody—she said nothing—I received these two half-crowns from Miss Giddy—she was searched at the station but nothing was found—she gave me a good half-crown in the shop.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did she make any remark at the station?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That she did not know bow she came by the bad half-crown.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-65" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint—these two half-crowns are bad—the other is good.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners statement before the Magistrate.</hi> "I know nothing of the half-crown passed on the Tuesday.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-291-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">She was further charged with a previous conviction of a similar offence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-66" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi>. I produce a certificate (
<hi rend="italic">Read,
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-67" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-67" type="surname" value="BLAIR"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-67" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>Eliza Blair</persName> convicted at this court, September, 1863, of unlawfully having counterfeit coin in her possession. Confined fifteen months</hi>)—the prisoner is the person—I was not present at her trial, but I was in court after her trial, and spoke to your lordship respecting her antecedents.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I never was locked up in my life before, and defy any one to say so.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I know her well.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment Respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<persName id="t18650227-name-69" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-69" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY RICHARDS</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Wilson, a draper, of 10, Cran
<lb/>bourne-street—on 8th February I served the prisoner with a pair of stays and she tendered Mr. Wilson a half-crown, who said that it was bad—the prisoner walked out of the shop with the half-crown—I followed her into a public-house in Bear-street and saw another female (Thomas) join her—I watched them into Mr. Saul's shop in Castle-street—a policeman went in after them—I remained outside and saw him take them into custody—I afterwards went back to Mr. Wilson's shop, and saw Mrs. Wilson give a half-crown to the policeman—I marked it at the station.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-70" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA WILSON</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a draper's shop, at 10, Cranbourne-street—I have heard what Richards has said; it is correct.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-71" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES SAUL</persName> </hi>. I am a furniture dealer, of 68, Castle-street—on 8th Feb
<lb/>ruary, between 1 and 2 o'clock, the prisoner and another female came for two chairs which came to 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the prisoner gave me a half-crown, 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of it was for one chair, and 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. deposit on the other—a policeman then came in and said, "What have you taken?'—I said, "Half-a-crown"—I showed it to him; it was in my pocket where there was only a penny besides—the policeman bent it, and scratched it with his knife, and said that it was bad—the prisoner was going towards the door with the chair but I said, "Come back, 'and the policeman took them and the half-crown.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-72" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY ROUGH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, A</hi> 310). I received information and followed the prisoner to Mr. Saul's—I have heard what he has said; it is correct—he gave me this half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>), and gave the women in charge—I took them to Mrs. Wilson's who also gave them in charge—the prisoner de
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-73" type="given" value="NATHANIEL"/>NATHANIEL LEACH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, C</hi> 14). On 8th February I received Thomas</p>
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<p>in charge—I took this half-crown from her (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it was in her hand with some good money—she had to pass the street-door of the station—some coin was afterwards produced to me—on 9th instant I went to 15, Little Clarendon-street, and found in the back parlour a left-hand kid glove—Cain had given me a glove previously containing thirteen bad half-crowns—the two gloves are pairs.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-74" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE"/>CHARLOTTE CAIN</persName> </hi>. I cook and clean the offices at the Vine-street station—on Thursday morning, the 9th inst. I was cleaning, and found a glove behind the front-door—I swept it out, not thinking there was anything in it, till I had swept it two or three yards along the passage; I then looked at it, and found fourteen or fifteen half-crowns—I put the dirt into the dust-pan, and then looked into the glove, and found two more—I gave the glove to Ser
<lb/>geant Basin—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When had you swept the place before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On Wednesday morning.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-75" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY WEEMES</persName> </hi>. I am a furniture dealer of 9A, Phoenix-street—the prisoner came to me and asked the price of a chair—I said, "Half-a-crown"—she tendered me a half-crown; I kept it a little while in my pocket; there was no other half-crown there—the policeman came in shortly after-wards, and I looked at the half-crown and found it was bad—the prisoner was out of sight then—I saw Mrs. Thomas outside the shop—I gave the half-crown to Leach, I believe.</p>
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<persName id="t18650227-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-76" type="surname" value="LEACH"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-76" type="given" value="NATHANIEL"/>NATHANIEL LEACH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I received this half-crown from Weemes, and this glove with the half-crowns in it from Inspector Walker.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-77" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These three coins uttered are bad, and are of 1818, 1834, and 1846—this one uttered is-bad, and is from the same mould as the one of 1818—here are thirteen bad half-crowns in this glove, six of them are from the same mould as this of 1818, four from the same mould as this of 1834, and three from the same mould as this of 1846—these two others, which were found, are of 1818 and 1834, from the same mould as the others.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> Thomas is entirely innocent of all knowledge of the transaction. I got these in paying my week's rent.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The evidence of Henry Richards, Henry Rudd, Charlotte Cam, Henry Weemes and William Webster, in the last case, was read over to them, to which they assented.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-81" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES SAUL</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">The evidence of this witness was read over to him, to which he assented.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas. Q.</hi> Did I ask the price of any article in your shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You asked my judgment upon it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The evidence of this witness was read over to him, to which he assented, and added</hi>: The prisoners both gave their address, 15, Clarendon-street, Clarendon-square.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Thomas's Defence.</hi> I keep a lodging-house at 15, Clarendon-street—last Saturday three weeks, this woman took an unfurnished room of me, and I afterwards went with her to purchase some chairs, but what she gave the man, I cannot say. I had no idea she had had coin in her possession, nor</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DANIEL LEACH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you find anything on Thomas?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; one of these bad half-crowns was in her right-hand—she did not pro
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<hi rend="italic">Brown's Defence.</hi> I gave her the half-crown on Tuesday, not knowing what it was.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WARNER SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-86" type="given" value="PRISCILLA"/>PRISCILLA WOOD</persName> </hi>. I live at 18, Wells-street, Hackney—on 27th January, about half-past 7 in the evening, the younger prisoner came in for some embroi
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you ever seen her before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Once, when she came to make purchases, and paid me with good money—I shut up shop about half-past 8, because my daughter was ill—I have no servant—my hus
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-87" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH MARTIN</persName> </hi>. I keep a toy-shop—on 4th February, about 8 o'clock in the evening, the younger prisoner came in and asked for some toy-spoons—I served her with a box of toys, containing spoons, which came to sixpence; she gave me a florin—I put it in my purse—I had no other coins there, as I took out what was there, two sixpences and two threepenny pieces, to give her change—about half an hour after she left I tendered the florin in payment in Hackney, and discovered that it was bad—I gave infor
<lb/>mation and saw her at the station at half-past 10 the same night—I marked the florin, and gave it to the constable.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What happened after you took it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I went out, took it out of my purse, and tendered it to Mr. Whitehouse, who said that it was bad, but he never touched it—I took it up, put it to my teeth, and found it was bad—I put it in my purse again, and went straight home, and in about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour, Mrs. Peters, the hair-dresser next door sent in to ask if I had had such a girl in my shop—I went and saw the girl standing there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-88" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH CAPON</persName> </hi>. My husband is a batcher, we live in Morning-lane, Hackney; there is no other butcher's in the lane—on 4th February, be
<lb/>tween 8 and 9 o'clock, the little girl came in for half a pound of suet which came to three halfpence—she gave me a bad florin; I gave it to my husband sent for a constable, and gave the girl in custody.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-89" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CAPON</persName> </hi>. My stop is in Morning-lane, about 200 yards from the toy-shop at the corner—on 4th February, I received a bed florin from my wife; I was in the shop when it was taken, but did not see the girl come in, as I was attending to other customers—I bit the florin in two, and sent for a policeman and gave it to him—I gave the girl in custody before she left the shop.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-90" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES EASON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, N</hi> 342). I produce a bad florin which I re
<lb/>ceived from Mrs. Martin—I went to Mr. Capon's shop on 4th February at quarter to 9 o'clock, took the younger prisoner in custody, and received this other florin (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from Mrs. Capon—I asked the girl where she got it; she said from her mother—I asked her where her mother lived; she said, "41, Poland road, Wells-street, Hackney"—I asked where her mother was; she said that she was waiting at the corner of Mincing-lane for her—I went to look for her, but could not find her—I then went to 41, Poland-road, but did not see her—I took the girl to Mr. Edmund's who had received a florin, but destroyed it; Mrs. Wood came in and identified her—I took her to the station and received this florin (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) from Mrs. Wood—I then went to 41, Poland-row, and found the elder prisoner—I told her her daughter was locked up for tendering two florins, and I should charge her with being accessory—she made no reply—as soon as we got to the station she heard the younger prisoner speaking to the station-sergeant in the cell—I placed the mother in the dock and she sung out, "Lizzie, I am here; say no more, don't open"—I did not hear that the girl made any reply—I only found a penknife on the mother; nothing on the girl.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are these the only two prisoners you took in custody for this offence?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; but I saw her daughter—n-law, as I understood, in charge, but I did not charge her—Sergeant Busame took her in custody two nights afterwards, at 41, Poland-road; I was with him—he charged her with uttering a counterfeit florin—she said she knew nothing about it—I was not in the house all the time—I left, leaving the Sergeant and the girl in the house.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You have told us about another person being in custody, was that on a different charge?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; nothing to do with this—I did not hear the sergeant say anything to her concerning this charge.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-91" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH ALDRIDGE</persName> </hi>. I am single, and have lived with Matthew Neale, the son of the elder prisoner, as his wife for about eighteen months—I have been in trouble; he and I were convicted together of counterfeit coin—I had six months with him, and after that I went to live with my mother—I then left her, and went back to live with Matthew Neale—I was living with him at his mother's house when the younger prisoner was taken, but I was not at home at the time—I have lived in his mother's house as long as she has lived there; four or five months—I know that she is in the habit of sending her daughter out to change counterfeit coin, and the daughter brought back the change—I have seen counterfeit coin in the mother's possession two or three times a week as far as I can recollect—it was in paper packets; half a score as they call it, ten pieces—they were brought to the house by a Mrs. Tubbs twice or three times a week—I have seen her come, and have seen the packets opened by the elder prisoner, who handed them to her daughter, and sent her out with them to get change—that would occur perhaps every day—Mrs. Tubbs is a short, fresh-coloured person—I never knew the elder prisoner go out with counterfeit coin till that Saturday night—she never went out with her daughter—I did not see the mother go out on this night—I was out—she has given me one or two counterfeit coins to pass, and I have also re
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<p>them through her son; it is through him that I hare got into the disgrace and bother that I have—on 6th February I was taken on a charge of uttering counterfeit-coin; I was remanded and discharged—that was a different case to this—I am living with my mother now.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Who took you in custody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A sergeant; I believe there was somebody with him—I and the sergeant and the police-constable went out of the house together—I did not remain in the house with the ser
<lb/>geant after the constable left—I got into trouble, not for passing bad coin, but for being in Neale's company—I lived with him eighteen months off and on—Mrs. Tubbs gave me packets of counterfeit coin, and I have passed them—she is rather short and has dark hair and a fresh complexion—I did not send out the younger prisoner to buy anything and give her money to buy it with—I may have sent her on an errand, but not for draperies or ribbons, or to get change for any money—I have been out of prison four or five months—after I was led into this by Neale and ruined by him, I went back to live with him—the sergeant first spoke to me about this case, and I was taken before the Magistrate on some charge regarding counterfeit-coin on the same day as the prisoners were—I do not know why I was discharged—I do not know why or whether the police-sergeant had any thing to do with it—I did not hear him make any recommendation—after I was discharged that day, I went straight home with my mother and have not been away from her since—I told my mother that I had to meet the sergeant at night, but I never went—after I was discharged, I went into a public-house with my sister and another young girl—I cannot recollect any man going into the public-house with me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you taken before the Magistrate on another charge the same day that the prisoners were taken up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I was re
<lb/>manded for a week—when I came up again I came up with them, but I had my trial separate on both occasions—it was a distinct charge at a different time of day—I was remanded and discharged—the sergeant said nothing to the Magistrate to get roe discharged that I am aware of—I heard all he stated—I did not hear him ask the Magistrate to discharge me—it was on the same day that I was discharged that I was to meet the sergeant—I did not meet him because my mother persuaded me not—I do not know why I was to meet him—I never met him, but he came to our house last Saturday and brought me a summons—there was only one case of uttering against me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-92" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES BUSAME</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, N</hi> 25). On 4th February, I was on duty at the station when Eason brought the younger prisoner—a number of people there, identified her—I said to her, "Where did you get the counter
<lb/>feit-coin from?'—she said, "Mother gave them to me; she stood at the corner while I passed them. Do not lock me up in a cell, fetch mother; if mother is not at home she will be at home by-and-bye"—I said, "You must have known they were bad"—she said in a flippant manner, "Of course I did"—I gave some directions to a constable, and soon afterwards I was at the extreme cell when the elder prisoner was brought in by Eason, and beard her shout out, "Lizzie, I am here; say no more, don't open"—the child said nothing—no money was found on either of them—I apprehended Aldridge on a charge of uttering a florin at a butcher's shop in Wells-street; there were two cases, but one of the coins was destroyed—she was remanded for a week, and a letter was received by the clerk from the solicitor to the Mint, which was shown to me—it stated that she was to be discharged—the clerk showed it to the Magistrate, and she was discharged—I asked her to meet me with the knowledge of the solicitor, but I was detained and could</p>
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<p>not go—I afterwards went to the house where she lived and served a subpoena on her there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know why she was discharged?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Simply because there was not a second case where the coin could be produced—I was asked whether there was any case and I said, "No"—I was not left alone in the house with her—the solicitor was not present when I asked her to meet me—I did not ask her to meet me at eleven or twelve o'clock at night—I have seen her since she was discharged—on the night she was to meet me she came to the station and I also saw her on the day of the last remand, not her own remand but after her discharge—she was remanded for a week and the prisoners also, and it so happened that she came up on the same day as the prisoners—when the mother said, "Lizzie, I am here, don't open, 'she was coming in at the door, she would be in the charge-room or the reserve-room at that moment—I did not take a note of what she said—she did not add the words, "Tour mouth" after Don't open, nor did she say, "Do not speak"—I went into a public-house with Aldridge and took her to her mother—I was to have met her that night at the railway station.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was Aldridge taken on Monday, taken before the Magistrate on Tuesday, remanded till the next Tuesday and discharged?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and on that day the prisoners were also brought up and remanded for a week—I knew that Aldridge had been living with the elder prisoner—I ap
<lb/>prehended her in the same house—that accounts for my taking a subpoena for her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-93" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This florin uttered to Martin is bad, the next is broken and is also bad—the third is from the same mould as the broken one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The elder prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>:—"I am quite innocent, with the exception of the one piece of money that was at the butcher's shop in Morning-lane. I went in and made a purchase of some tea and sugar, at the corner, and that is where I was when the child went, when I sent her to the butcher's. When I came out of the grocer's I could not see her, and thought she had gone home; then the person that I was nursing, the hus
<lb/>band, came in for me to see to her for the night, and I went, and when I came back again the police-constable told me the charge, and I voluntarily went to the station-house to see what was the matter. I know nothing of any other charge against me, barring that one. I believe the child has been bribed to do this by her sister—n-law, in order to get halfpence."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES EASON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was she taken in custody to the station or did she go by herself?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> She was taken.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH NEWMAN</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">sen.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-294-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. **—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-294-18650227 t18650227-294-punishment-15"/>Confined Two Years</rs>.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ELIZABETH NEWMAN</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">jun.</hi>
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<interp inst="t18650227-294-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<interp inst="t18650227-294-punishment-16" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-294-18650227 t18650227-294-punishment-16"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">FRANCES HARRIS</hi> (24)</persName>, and
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<interp inst="t18650227-295-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HARRIS</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-295-18650227 t18650227-295-punishment-17"/>Confined Fifteen Months.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESCOTT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">received a good character.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-295-18650227 t18650227-295-punishment-18"/>Confined Twelve Months.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWIN CADDICKY</hi> (42)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18650227-296-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to a like offence. He was further charged with having been before convicted.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-97" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-97" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-97" type="given" value="SIDNEY ROBERT"/>SIDNEY ROBERT SMITH</persName> </hi>. I produce a certificate. Read: "Central Criminal Court,
<hi rend="italic">
<persName id="t18650227-name-98">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-98" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>Edwin White</persName> convicted October</hi>, 1862,
<hi rend="italic">on his own confession, of uttering counterfeit-coin.—Confined Six Months.</hi>" I was present, the prisoner is the man—he was in Newgate a fortnight.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.**—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-296-18650227 t18650227-296-punishment-19"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, February</hi> 28
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1865.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE SMITH</hi> (37)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PATTESON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the prosecution</hi>, and
<hi rend="smallCaps">M: ORRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-101" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BINGHAM</persName> </hi>. I am staying at an hotel in Leicester-square—on 16th January last I made up a letter, addressed to Mrs. Hopkins, Mr. Davis, Harrow—on the hill, Middlesex—I enclosed it in another envelope addressed in the same way—I then took it to the Post-office, in Castle-street, and there purchased half-a-crown's worth of postage-stamps; I had closed the letter, and not wishing to open it again, I put the stamps round it, and bought another envelope, a post-office envelope, and enclosed it in that, and then posted it at Castle-street, before twelve o'clock, mid-day—this is the letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you quite certain that you enclosed all the stamps?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I am sure I paid half-a-crown for them, and to the best of my belief the post-mistress gave me thirty; I did not count them, I was in a great hurry—if I had only received twenty-eight I should have observed it, because I should have seen the rough edges, or a hiatus, which there was not—the stamp I placed on the outer envelope was my own, not one of those I purchased.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you place that paper in the envelope, or do you know anything of it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I know nothing of it, and certainly never placed it inside.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-102" type="surname" value="GLAZIER"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-102" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GLAZIER</persName> </hi>. I am in the N. W. district office—if this letter was posted at Castle-street before twelve, it ought to have gone out from the N. W. district-office at twelve—it bears the stamp of the N. W. office, of 16th January, eleven o'clock—I despatched the bag.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> There are the letters "W. C." are there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> "N. W. 'I think—yes, this appears to be 'W. C."—I am employed at the N. W. office—Castle-street is in the W. C. district.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> That would be the district where it was posted?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it would bear that stamp also—our stamp is at the back—Harrow is in the N. W. district.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-103" type="surname" value="WISE"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-103" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR WISE</persName> </hi>. I am a letter-carrier at Harrow—the prisoner was the principal letter-carrier there—I remember the mid-day mail arriving on 16th January, soon after two—the prisoner was absent that day and I had to take his duty—this letter was sorted to me—I was a Stranger on the prisoner's walk—I took the letter out for delivery, but could not find the person—I took it back to the office and gave it to the next man who was going out oil that delivery, I think it was Blake, to take it out on trial, as we did not know where to deliver it—the letter was then perfectly safe, fastened up.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did the prisoner speak to you about this letter the next day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I can't say for certain whether he did the next day, but we had the letter before us several days—by us I mean the letter-carriers, myself, Blake, Warden and the prisoner—we did not know what to do with it—the prisoner sorts of an afternoon—the sorting is done in the same office that we are in—I am not on duty in the afternoon—the prisoner does</p>
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<p>not live at the office—I can't tell whether the postmaster's attention was called to this letter—Mr. Gardner, one of the senior clerks in the chief office came down.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What is the course when there is a mis-sent letter?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It is sent back to the General Post-Office—we should not call this a mis-sent letter, but a misdirected one—we could not find out where the party lived to whom it was addressed; we were endeavouring to do so—all our men had the letter out on trial.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-104" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN BLAKE</persName> </hi>. I am a letter-carrier at Harrow—I remember Wise giving me a letter on 16th or 17th January—I think this is the letter, but 1 could not say—I never took it out"; if we have a difficulty in finding the person to whom a letter is addressed, it is taken back to the office and placed in the hands of the charge-taker the head letter-carrier, that was the pri
<lb/>soner; whatever he thinks proper is done with it—if it cannot be delivered the last that had it out writes upon it and hands it to the charge-taker, and it is sent back to the dead-office; that is what I have always understood—I did not give it to the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see it lying about several days?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Wise handed it to me on the evening of the 16th; it was lying down and I never had it in my hands after—Mr. Kay is the postmaster, he is here—I did not call his attention to the letter, he had nothing to do with it—the prisoner did not speak to me about it—after I saw it it, was not my place to have it any more—it was handed to the man on the beat—there are four or five persons of the name of Davis at Harrow—if one man cannot find the per-son he would hand it to another—we should not keep it in our pocket—if we go out with a letter and the person cannot be found, the next time we go back to the office we give it up.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-105" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-105" type="surname" value="DAVIS"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-105" type="given" value="MINNIE"/>MINNIE DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I reside with my father at Harrow—this letter was in-tended for me—I sometimes have letters addressed to me in that way—I never received this letter; the detective brought it to my father's house—I have had a good many letters in the last two or three months, addressed in the same way—I know the prisoner—he has been in the habit of delivering letters to me addressed in that way.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-106" type="surname" value="GARDNER"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-106" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GARDNER</persName> </hi>. I am one of the senior clerks in the General Post-Office—on 30th January I went to Harrow with Mr. Clare and Rumbold the officer—the prisoner came to the office while I was there—after some ques
<lb/>tions being put to him, Rumbold was desired to search him, and he took from his pocket this letter in precisely the same state it is now—the coloured envelope, containing a small note was enclosed in the outer envelope, and the postage-stamps were enclosed in this pillar letter-box bill; it is one of the office-forms—the envelope was torn open, as it is now and the other envelope was also open, but not the small inner one—I said to the prisoner, "Here is a letter which the police-officer has just taken from your pocket, how do you account for its possession"—he replied, I don't know anything about it, I suppose I must have taken it up with my pocket-handkerchief—I said, "But it has been opened, and here is another envelope enclosed, bearing the same address; and also some postage-stamps, wrapped in a pillar-box bill, all this could not have been done by accident"—he replied, "I don't know, I must have taken it up with my handkerchief or with some bills"—he was shown the envelope and asked where the person lived to whom the letter was addressed—he replied, "by the hill," or "over the hill, round by the pillar box, it is the first of four cottages"—after receiving that descrip
<lb/>tion I sent Mr. Clare.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long has the prisoner been in the Post-office?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About nine years—Mr. Kay, the postmaster, was not present when this took place.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Has the postmaster anything to do with the in-coming letters?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he simply despatches the letters posted at Harrow—he has nothing to do with the letter-carriers—the prisoner was the prin
<lb/>cipal person there for the purpose of the in-coming letters.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ORRIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The postmaster is the head of all is he not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, the prisoner is over the letter-carriers—Mr. Kay is the letter-receiver—I don't know what his salary is—the prisoner is the superior officer as regards the delivery of letters—the postmaster is not his superior; he has no con
<lb/>trol over the letter-carriers, only over the despatch of letters from Harrow.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is the postmaster the person who sends off the bags?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The letters posted at Harrow are collected by letter-carriers and brought to the receiver who dispatches them to London—the letters that go to Har-row come from the N. W. district-office—the letter-carriers at Harrow are under the superintendence of the prisoner—he is under the superintendence of the chief officer in London.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-107" type="surname" value="CLARE"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-107" type="given" value="WILLIS"/>WILLIS CLARE</persName> </hi>. I am one of the inspectors of letter-carriers—on 30th January I was sent by Mr. Gardner to the address described by the prisoner—I there found Miss Davis—it was on what is called the London hill, one of four cottages, round by a pillar-box.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-108" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY RUMBOLD</persName> </hi>. I am a police-constable, attached to the Post-office—I went to Harrow with Mr. Clare and Mr. Gardner, on 30th January—I searched the prisoner and took this letter from his pocket in the state in which it was shown to Mr. Gardner, all broken open.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-297-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN LOMANS</hi> (38)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18650227-298-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing 30 yards of cloth of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650227-298-offence-1 t18650227-name-110"/>George Williams</persName> and another.</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-111" type="given" value="HARRY"/>MR. HARRY PALMER</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-112" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-112" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a detective-officer—I was on duty in the neigh
<lb/>bourhood of St. Paul's about eleven o'clock on the morning of 25th January—I saw the prisoner coming towards me in a very hurried manner, with this parcel under his coat—he was very restless with it, pushing it up and walking in a very hurried manner—he turned up Chapter-house court into Paternoster-row and up Ivy-lane—I went after him, he was running; I ran after him—as he was crossing Newgate-street I overtook him, laid hold of his sleeve and said, "I am an officer, what have you got here under your coat"—he said, "I don't know what you mean, 'and began to struggle—I said, "I must see what you have got there"—he said, "It is samples of barege"—I said, "Where did you get them from"—he said, "From Brixton"—I said, "I must see what it is"—we had a struggle—I got hold of the parcel and took it from under his coat—a ticket was attached to the end of it, which he instantly caught hold of—I tried to get hold of it; he struggled very violently and broke from me a short time—I called for help and he was stopped by the witness Hardy, within a few yards—after some difficulty I got him to the station—he was searched—no money was found on him—he was asked his address, which he refused to give—I lost the ticket in the struggle; so many persons got round, I don't know where it got to—I saw that it was a ticket like this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I did not say they were samples of barege—I said a piece of barege for sample.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I am positive he said samples of barege—the parcel contained about thirty yards of Orleans cloth—barege is a thin fabric.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-113" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-113" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-113" type="surname" value="HARDY"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-113" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS HARDY</persName> </hi>. I was present at the apprehension of the prisoner—I saw a large bundle like this in his hand—he tore a small label off it, threw it on the ground, and tried to get away from the officer—he struggled very hard—he got away a few paces and I laid hold of him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> If the ticket was thrown on the ground why did not you pick it up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Because such a crowd got round and they trampled upon it; it was torn to bits—I did not say before the Magistrate that you swallowed the ticket.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-114" type="surname" value="DRAKE"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-114" type="given" value="FRANK"/>FRANK DRAKE</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman in the employ of Messrs. Hitch-cock and Williams—I know this piece of Orleans cloth; it is their property—I identify it by my own writing here, and also by a particular piece Cut out for patterns to send to customers—we took stock the last week in December—this piece was then in stock—I have not seen it since, till the officer showed it to me—there was a ticket on it of this description—this ticket is made expressly for us in Paris—I have examined the stock sheet and find a piece missing of exactly this length—I can positively swear we have not sold it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Do you invariably erase all marks on papers of goods that are sent out?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I could not say that no piece of cloth goes out that has had patterns cut from it—we send out goods with the tickets attached—I have sold cloth of this kind many times last season, but we never send out a short length with the ticket on—we have more than one piece in the warehouse of the same length—other warehouses keep cloth of the same kind—this is the particular mark I swear to, the figures "40"—I can't say I may not have put those figures on other papers in the course of a number of years—it is the custom in all warehouses to cut patterns—this is pecu
<lb/>liarly cut—I was obliged to refer to our stock sheet before I missed any cloth—I have never seen you before that I know of—we never send out this class of article in the paper in which it is kept in stock; we always put fresh clean paper—we are in the habit of selling cloth to parties to sell again—I think I should object to sell to a hawker, unless he was a respect-able man—I had not seen this piece for upwards of three weeks—hundreds of persons might pass through the warehouse in that time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-115" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-115" type="surname" value="MUDELL"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-115" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES MUDELL</persName> </hi>. I am a warehouseman in the same employ—on the morning of 25th January I saw the prisoner in the warehouse—I can't say the time exactly, but it was between 11 and 1—I was going up the stairs and as I got to the top I saw the prisoner leaving the department where the goods were taken from—I saw his face distinctly, and swear to his identity—I can't say whether he had a parcel or not—I have not the slightest doubt he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> You cannot swear to the cloth I believe?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—my at
<lb/>tention was called to the loss the same day, when the detective came to the warehouse—I was not before the Magistrate on the first occasion, but several of our young men were there, and from the description they gave I was sure it was the man I had seen—I had never seen you before—when I went I saw you with seven or eight others and at once identified you.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was read, as follows</hi>:—"I can say that no person saw me take this piece of goods. I stated that I bought it from a hawker, I cannot prove it, because I have no receipt, nor can any disprove it, because no one saw me take it. The man who says it is his</p>
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<p>property, declares on his oath that he had not seen it since December last, and they did not miss it till the officer went and asked them about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Prisoner in his defence repeated the assertion that he bought the cloth of a hawker in the Brixton-road.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-298-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">He also
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi> to a previous conviction for forgery at this court in September, 1861, in the name of
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-116" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>Edward Marston</persName>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-298-18650227 t18650227-298-punishment-21"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM MUNDAY</hi> (43)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH DUNKS</hi> (43)</persName>
<rs id="t18650227-299-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18650227-299-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-299-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="receiving"/> Feloniously receiving 414 skins of leather the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650227-299-offence-1 t18650227-name-119"/>Jacob Herman Epstein</persName>, knowing them to have been stolen.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGUE WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Munday, and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi> defended Dunks.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-120" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-120" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-120" type="surname" value="EPSTEIN"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-120" type="given" value="JACOB HERMAN"/>JACOB HERMAN EPSTEIN</persName> </hi>. I carry on business at 11, Newgate-street—on the evening of 9th February I left the premises about half-past 6, leaving them in the care of George Gall, a servant—when I came to business at a little after 10 next morning, I missed about fifteen dozen Morocco leathers, and about twenty dozen of roau leathers, sheep skins—the Morocco was worth about 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the roan 32
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—on the evening of the 14th February I saw the Morocco at the warehouse of Mr. Nevett—this is it—the roan leather I afterwards saw at the police-station—I do not know either of the prisoners.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-121" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-121" type="surname" value="GALL"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-121" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE GALL</persName> </hi>. I am in the prosecutor's employ—on the evening of 9th February I left the warehouse about twenty minutes to 7—I fastened and locked the warehouse door—next morning I found the premises broken open.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-122" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-122" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH RICKETTS</persName> </hi>. I am a plumber at Vauxhall—I went to repair the gutters of this house in Newgate-street on the morning of 10th February—I got there about a quarter to 7—I got the street door key from Mr. Brown, who occupies the lower portion of the premises. I then discovered that Mr. Epstein's warehouse had been broken open—the door was wide open—he occupies the first floor—I found a dark lantern inside the door—there was a mortice lock to the door—the outside of the door had been cut away and part of the door frame.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-123" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-123" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH NEVETT</persName> </hi>. I am a bookbinder of 66, Snow-hill—I have known the prisoner Munday, I should say, more than twenty years—he came to my warehouse on 13th February, about 4 o'clock—(I had heard of the robbery at Mr. Epstein's before that)—he asked me if I wanted to buy any leather—he produced two or three pieces of Morocco—it was rather damaged by being carried doubled up, but I saw it was of good quality—I asked him what quantity he had of it—he said several dozen, and would I purchase the lot—I said that depended upon circumstances, how much was there altogether—he said he thought there was about twenty dozen, and it was quite right; he had to sell it on commission, and if I would take all the lot I should have it at 34
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. per dozen—I asked him if it was all real Morocco, and of good quality, or was it like the skin he had brought with him—he said it was all good leather and quite perfect—taking them on the average they were worth about 72
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a dozen, I think; about 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. per skin—some of it was worth perhaps rather more—I asked him again if it was quite right, meaning by that whether he had come honestly by the property—he assured me that it was quite right, that they were for sale—he then asked me when I would take them, or when he should bring them—I said he could bring them either that evening or the next evening, but I thought it would be better to bring them next evening—before he left I cut a piece</p>
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<p>of the sample Morocco skin that he brought, which I afterwards showed to the police—Inspector—I asked the prisoner if he had any more leather—he said, "Yes"—I asked if he had a sample, or if he could bring me one and what the colours were—he said the colours were red and dark—I asked what quantity of roans he had—he said he thought about twenty dozen-ultimately it was agreed that he should bring the leather between 6 and 7 next evening—he came next evening between 6 and 7, and the bulk of the Morocco was brought into my premises—I opened them in his presence and examined and counted them—I saw there was fifteen dozen—I asked him as to the manner of payment for the goods—after some hesitation, he said he wanted them to be paid for in this manner, for the fifteen dozen at 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. per dozen I was to give him a sovereign in money for himself and the other is a dozen I might give him how I liked—he said he would take a cheque for the fifteen dozen at 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a dozen, and the fifteen dozen at is how I liked—about that time the constable Rowland came in—the police took possession of the leather.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you had dealings with Munday before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Once or twice—I think he first suggested the cheque—I asked him how he would like to be paid.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is he a pocket-book maker?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe so—I can hardly say whether he is in the habit of buying and selling skins; although I have known him over twenty years, I knew very little about him—he lived next door to me twenty years ago—he has offered leather to me for sale before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-124" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ROWLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City Policeman</hi>, 247). I had been spoken to about Mr. Epstein's burglary before 14th February—on the 14th I went towards the shop of Mr. Nevett—the side-door of his premises comes into Cock-lane, about fifteen yards up—I saw the prisoner Dunks waiting at the corner of Cock-lane—I believe he knew me—I knew him—he saw me and walked away up King-street towards Smithfield—I went into Mr. Nevett's shop and there saw Munday—I asked Mr. Nevett in his presence whether he had had any skins offered for sale—he said he had by Munday—I then asked Munday how he accounted for the possession of the skins which then laid in front of him—he said he had been employed to sell them on commission—I asked who employed him—he said he did not know—I said where did they come from—he said he did not know—I said his account was not satisfactory to me, I should take him into custody, which I did—on the way to the station, in Cock-lane be said, "I will behave like a man, I will tell the truth about it, a man of the name of Jemmy Dunks, living in Cow Cross, has employed me to sell them"—I then took him to the station and searched him—I told him I should go and search his place—he said, "You will find the other leather at my place"—I went and searched his place in company with another officer, and found in a back room nineteen and a half dozen roan skins, which we took possession of, and which Mr. Epstein identified—after taking Munday to the station I went back into King-street, where I saw Dunks standing opposite Cock-lane—I should think from twenty minutes to half an hour had elapsed between the first time I saw him and the second—I went up to him and said, "Your name is Dunks"—he said "yes, that is my name"—I said, "Do you know a man of the name of Munday?'—he said, "No I do not"—I said "Not a man that uses your house?"—he said, "Oh yes, I do, I know who you mean"—I said, "Did you authorize him to sell any skins"—he said, "No I did not"—he asked me what sort they were—I said some of them were Morocco skins—he said "It is out of my line, I don't know anything about any skins, I never</p>
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<p>authorized Munday to sell any skins for me, I never had any transaction with him about Morocco skins"—I asked if he had any objection for me to search his house—he said not any—I went with him to his house, the Perseverance beer-shop in Turnmill-street, Cow Cross—I found some hides there, which he said were things that he used in his business as a clog-maker—he said he had lent Munday some money on the Monday evening (this was on Tuesday)—he did not say how much—I asked what he had lent him the money for—he did not say.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Munday told you where he lived at once, did he not, when you got outside the door?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, not till we got to the station; I did not ask him; he told the inspector—he did not tell me I should find the leather there, until I told him I was going to search.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you find that Dunks carried on the business of a clog-maker as well as a beer-shop keeper?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I did not find anything there except such things as be would use in his business—he was not summoned to the Police-court as a witness—I told him he bad better be there—he went, and was on the first occasion called as a witness—he was again called as a witness on the second occasion—he was cross-examined by Mr. Williams, and also by Mr. Beard, for the prosecution—the Magistrate also asked him questions—after that he was given into custody—the Magistrate directed him to go into the dock—Mr. Beard did not propose that course—I did not hear him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-125" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WELLS</persName> </hi>. I am a coal and coke dealer, in Little Warner-street, Clerkenwell—I have a horse and cart—on the evening of 14th February, about half-past 5 or a quarter to 6, the two prisoners came to me—I had known Dunks before for a good many years—he never hired a cart of me before—I have drawn coals for him—Dunks said, "I want you to do a little job for me"—I said, "Very well, sir; if you will wait five or ten minutes, I will do it"—they waited outside the door talking till I was ready—Munday said, "You can weigh me up 2 cwt. of coals if you like, 'and when I came to put them in the cart, Dunks was gone, leaving Munday by himself—I said, "Where are we going with these coals?"—he said, "Into Margaret-street; I am going with you"—I took the coals, and delivered them at Margaret-street—Munday then said, "I want you to take these two bundles to Cock-lane, Snow-hill—"I said, "Very well, sir; are you going with me?"—he said, "Yes"—I put them in the cart—he said, "Go on; I will overtake you"—he got up in the cart, and rode with me to Cock-lane on the right-hand side—he said, "This is the place"—I undid the tail-board, and Munday took one bundle out, took it in the building and came down for the other—as I was going away with my cart, both the prisoners came up behind me, about three parts up Cock-lane—I had some-thing to drink at the top of the lane; Dunks treated me—neither of them said anything about settling for the cart—I have not been paid.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Did you know Munday before this?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> All I knew of him was by seeing him at Dunk's once or twice.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did not Munday tell you he would come round and settle with you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I have known Dunks for some time—I can't say whether he has been in the habit of lending money—I borrowed a sovereign of him once to buy a dog, and he also lent me 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. once to buy a cart—I paid him back in a week—he did not ask for any security, and he had nothing for the
<hi rend="italic">lent</hi> of it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The evidence given by Dunks before the Magistrate was put in and read. He stated that Munday, whom he had known about twelve years, came to him on the Saturday evening, stating that he knew of a job-lot of goods for sale, and</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">asking for an advance of</hi> 18
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">to purchase them; that he lent him the money, but never saw the skins.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners received good characters.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-299-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.†—
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<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>, Feloniously uttering the same.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>, and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-127" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am cashier in the service of Mr. Charles Noah Foster, a builder, at New-wharf, Whitefriars—previous to 31st January, the prisoner was a labourer in our employ—when a labourer is discharged, for payment, he has a ticket given to him by the time-keeper at the job that he leaves, specifying the time that he has worked—I pay that on presentment—the amount I pay is regulated by the number of hours written on the ticket—I believe the prisoner was discharged on Tuesday, 31st January—he brought me this ticket (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) on that day (
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "Ray-street, January 31st 1865; Roach, 17 1/2 hours; labourer, at 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. J. Bacon.")—I paid that, believing it to be a genuine order—the pay for 7 1/2 hours would be 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—it was found out on the following Friday, when the time-keeper's sheet was sent in.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long had this man been working there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I can't tell—I believe he had worked, on and off, there for some time—the time-keeper is here—this is the same ticket that was presented to me by the prisoner—I don't know whether he can use the pen at all—I put two figures on it when I paid him—they are there now—I have no doubt it is the same ticket—he did not ask me if it was all right—I always make it a rule to ask the man what his time is, to see whether it corresponds with the ticket, and he called those hours, 17 1/2,—he did not ask me if it was all right—I have no ill-feeling towards him whatever.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Does the time-keeper keep a book at his buildings?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He does, and specifies the time on the ticket—the ticket is supposed to correspond with his book, and also with the time-sheet, which is sent in on the Friday—our week closes on Friday.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-128" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BACON</persName> </hi>. I was a time-keeper in the employment of Mr. Foster on 31st January—on that day, I gave the prisoner this ticket—it was then for seven hours and a half—I know this to be the ticket—since I gave it to him the figure 1 has been added—he had worked seven hours, and we allow half an hour to go for their money.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you a son?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I have four—I had not a son at work on those premises—the eldest is twenty-eight, I believe, on 13th March—he is a tailor, and has the telegraph-office—I belong to the premises now, but I am not in Mr. Foster's employ at present—I heard afterwards that some ill-feeling existed between the prisoner and the foreman's son—I believe the foreman's name is Bilberry—he is still there—I know his son; he was on the same premises this morning—I was the cause of the prisoner's being at work that day—I don't know whether he can write or not.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-129" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES LIPPETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 319). I took the prisoner into custody on 4th February—he said he knew that he had received too much money; he did not know about the ticket being altered; it was the same as be received it from the time-keeper.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on the Second Count.</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18650227-301-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to Unlawfully obtaining money of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650227-301-offence-1 t18650227-name-131"/>Anthony George Robinson</persName>, by false pretences (
<hi rend="italic">See page</hi> 365).</rs> </p>
<hi rend="italic">He received a good character, and was recommended to mercy.—
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650227-302-offence-1 t18650227-name-133"/>Charles Walter Burton</persName>.—</rs>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-302-18650227 t18650227-302-punishment-26"/>Confined Six Months.</rs> </hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, February</hi> 28
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1865.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<rs id="t18650227-303-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<interp inst="t18650227-303-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-137" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILSON</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Princess Alice, at Hoxton—on 28th January, between 4 and 5 o'clock, O'Neill came in for a pint of porter, and gave me a florin—I put it to my teeth, broke it, and told him it was bad—he looked at it, and said, "Keep it, 'and gave me a penny—I kept the florin, threw one part in the fire, and it melted—I gave the other part to 120 N.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-138" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-sergeant</hi>, 22
<hi rend="italic">N</hi>). On 28th January, O'Neill was pointed out to me in East-road, four or five hundred yards from the Princess Alice—I watched him, and saw him joined by the two female prisoners—they walked to the corner of Walbrook-place, where they all three stopped, and appeared to be conversing, and something was passing from hand to hand—I went towards them—they saw me coming, and ran away—I ran after the woman, and as I passed O'Neill, he caught me by the collar, and said, 'It is not the woman you want, it is me"—I released myself, and put him into the hands of the party who gave me information; but he overtook me and collared me again, and said, "It is not the women you want, it is me"—I released myself—Denton detained him, and I followed the women to a public-house, in the New North-road, and told them to consider themselves in custody, with a man, for uttering counterfeit coin—they said, 'We only had a drop of wine with him"—we took them to the station; and on Mary Ann Jones was found nine shillings, twelve sixpences, three groats, and fourpence, in copper, good money, by the female searcher, and handed to me—from information I received I went to Mary Teesdale's, 7, Walbrook-place—that is six or seven yards from the corner, and just where the prisoners were conversing—they were a yard or two further than Mr. Teesdale's door, and I was six or eight yards from it—they ran past it—Mrs. Teesdale gave me seven half-crowns and one florin, all counterfeit—she pointed out the place where she found them—it was on the spot where I saw the three prisoners stop.</p>
<hi rend="italic">O'Neill Q.</hi> Was I drunk or sober?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You had been drinking.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-139" type="given" value="MARIA"/>MARIA TEESDALE</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Mr. Teesdale, of 7, Walbrook-place, East-road—Mr. Chapman's house is at the corner of Walbrook-place, in the East-road—on 28th January, I picked up a two-shilling piece by Mr. Chap-man's door, and as I stooped, I saw a packet at the corner, which I also picked up—it contained seven half-crowns—I gave them to the constable, 22 N.</p>
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<persName id="t18650227-name-140" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-140" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DENTON</persName> </hi>. I am a town-traveller—I was in the Princess Alice on this afternoon, and saw the prisoner tender a florin—the barman broke it in his teeth, and told him it was bad—he said, "Be sure and keep it; I know</p>
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<p>where I had it from"—I saw him go out of the house, and from curiosity I followed him to the bottom of Murray-street, and round the corner he went up to the two women, said something to them, and then fell back—they went forward—I then saw Sergeant Smith, and told him the man was attempting to utter bad money, and I believed the women were belonging to him—we followed them round the Walbrook-road, and he went after the man—he tried to detain the sergeant, so that he should not take the women—I struggled with him; and when he saw the sergeant go after the women, he said, "So help me God, we are up now"—I took him to the station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">O'Neill. Q.</hi> Did you tell me you were a detective-officer?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did—I am not a detective-officer—I followed you from the Princess Alice—I did not see you throw anything away—you may have done so, but I should not think you did—I was close behind you—you told me to let you go—I did, when we got by the Stewart Arms, when I knew you could not get away—you said, "So help me God, I will knock your face in"—I took good care you did not strike me—I think you had been drinking—you were not drunk.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you say you don't think the man could have thrown anything away?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was close to him; I think I could have seen him if he had thrown anything away—I can't say whether the women threw anything away.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-141" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS MAJOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, N</hi> 120). I received the male prisoner in custody from Mr. Wilson, the barman outside the Princess Alice—I received a portion of the coin—the male prisoner said, "If you will let me go, I will give you half a
<hi rend="italic">counter</hi>,"meaning half-a-sovereign—I found nothing on him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">O'Neill. Q.</hi> Was I drunk or sober?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You had been drinking, but you knew perfectly well what you were about—I did not see you throw any
<lb/>thing away—you could not have done so.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-142" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-142" type="given" value="REBECCA"/>REBECCA DONOVAN</persName> </hi>. I am female-searcher at Hoxton Police-station—I searched Mary Ann Jones, and found nine shillings, six sixpences, three fourpenny-pieces, and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—in her dress-pocket—there were six other sixpences in the hem of her petticoat; I had to get a pair of scissors to cut them out—I gave the money to the police-sergeant in her presence—I found nothing on Jones.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-143" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is part of a bad florin—in the paper are seven half-crowns and one florin, all bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">O'Neill's statement before the Magistrate</hi>: "On the morning in question, I went into this public-house, and called for half a pint of beer, and a screw of tobacco. I produced a 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece, and he took it up, broke it, and gave it back to me; I gave him back the broken part, and told him to keep it there; that I should go and get the man who gave it me, and bring him there. When I got outside of the public-house, I came in contact with two females whom I did not know—they asked me to give them some gin—I told them to mind their own business, I was not going to be robbed and pick-pocketed by them. I had never seen them before."—Mary Ann Jones says: "I don't know the man."—
<hi rend="italic">Elizabeth Jones says</hi>: "We don't know anything of the man."</p>
<hi rend="italic">O'neill's Defence.</hi> I unfortunately got this in exchange of a half-sovereign at the Royal Oak in Kent-street. I am innocent. I have never been in custody before, and never knew anything about these girls before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Mary Ann Jones's Defence.</hi> We are innocent.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-303-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-303-18650227 t18650227-303-punishment-27"/>Confined Twelve Months each</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CORNELIUS HICKEY</hi> (28)</persName>, was indicted
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<interp inst="t18650227-304-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ORRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-145" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-145" type="surname" value="PAGE"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-145" type="given" value="SARAH ANN"/>SARAH ANN PAGE</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Charles Page, and live with my father, who keeps the Hope and Anchor, 43, Earl-street—on Saturday, 14th February, the prisoner came for a glass of ale, and gave me a shilling—I laid it on a shelf by itself gave him 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and be left—I directly found it was bad, put it on the shelf, and my husband marked it, and left it there—on the the 28th, the prisoner came again—my father served him—I saw the prisoner take up the bad shilling, and put his hand across his mouth—I believe be swallowed it—he then said you may fetch forty policemen now; I will lick them all, and you will find nothing on me—a police-man was sent for, and I gave him the first shilling.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did you see me offer the coin to your father?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I came in directly afterwards—I saw him bend it—you took it up, placed your hand across your mouth, and put a good shilling on the counter directly.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-146" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH BRADLEY</persName> </hi>. On 28th January I served the prisoner with a pint of half-and-half, which came to two pence—he put down a shilling—I put it in the detector, and it bent easily—he then picked it up and put down a good one—I do not know what he did with the first, for I was busy looking at the other—I heard him say that we might send for forty policemen; he would lick them all now.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-147" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WILKINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, D</hi> 244). On 28th January Mr. Bradley gave the prisoner into my custody, and Mrs. Page gave me this bad shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I searched the prisoner, and found a half-crown, 6 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, in copper, and a duplicate.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-148" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-148" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This coin is bad.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-304-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18650227-304-punishment-28" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SARAH CARRS</hi> (29)</persName>, was indicted
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<interp inst="t18650227-305-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-150" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-150" type="surname" value="LUCY"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-150" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN LUCY</persName> </hi>. I live at Mr. Crispin's, 43, Old-street-road—on Thursday evening, 26th January, about half-past 9 the prisoner came in for a penny pie—she gave me a shilling; she also had a penny and a farthing in her hand—I gave her 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and put the shilling on the back-board by itself—when she had gone, I found it was bad, and gave it to my master—on Monday night, 6th February, she came again, and asked for a penny mince-pie—I recognised her—she gave me a bad shilling—I called my master, and gave it to him—he marked it, and gave her in custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Might it have been a half-penny and a farthing that she had in her hand?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; a penny—I am sure of that—there is no till in our place—I believed the first shilling to be good when I took if—I was very busy.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-151" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-151" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CRISPIN</persName> </hi>. I was called in on the 6th February by the last witness to my shop—the prisoner was there—I gave her into custody with the bad coins—I saw her come in on the 26th—my shop-maid said she should know the woman again.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-152" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ROFFEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, N</hi> 413). I took the prisoner, and told her the charge—she said, "I did not know it was bad, I have more good money to pay for it"—the last witness gave me these two counterfeit shil
<lb/>lings (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-153" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-153" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are two bad shillings.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate</hi>: "That young person has</p>
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<p>made a mistake. She says I had a penny farthing in my hand; I only had an old half-penny and a farthing."</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was not aware that it was bad—I had the 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. which I borrowed of a friend to keep us all the week, as my husband was out of work. I have borne a good character hitherto, and I should not forfeit if for the sake of a shilling. I am very sorry that it happened. I shall be more particular another time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CRAUFURD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ORRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-155" type="surname" value="GILROY"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-155" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GILROY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, G</hi> 126). I have got a certificate here signed by Mr. Bruce, a surgeon—I did not see him sign it; I do not know his writing—I saw Mr. Saddler yesterday morning serving at his bar—I have not seen him to-day—I don't know why he is not here—I received the prisoner from Mr. Saddler on 28th January with this counterfeit half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">pro
<lb/>duced</hi>)—he told me that the prisoner had given it to him in payment for a quartern of rum—he gave her into custody—I took her before the Magis
<lb/>trate—I and Mr. Saddler attended to give evidence—she was afterwards discharged on the 8th February.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I did not know it was a bad one.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-156" type="witnessName">
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, which I handed to the prisoner—she walked out immediately—in consequence of something Miss Constable said, I went after her, brought her back, and fetched a policeman—she was given into custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you overtook her, how far was she off?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Just across the road—walking along, not particularly fast—I said to her, 'You have given us a bad shilling"—she said, 'A bad shilling, 'as if she was astonished—I said, "Will you come back"—she did not say anything—she came back with me at once—one of the young men in the shop said to her, 'How many more of these have you got?' and she said, "None at all"—that was all that took place.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-157" type="surname" value="CONSTABLE"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-157" type="given" value="ANNIE"/>ANNIE CONSTABLE</persName> </hi>. I am cashier to Mr. Rowe—on 15th February he called "Cashier," and I received this shilling—I gave 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and then bent it, and found it was bad—I marked it, and sent Page after the prisoner, who was brought back, and given in custody with the shilling.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-158" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN EDWARDS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, A</hi> 446). I was called to Mr. Rowe's shop, and took the prisoner—this shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) was handed to me—the prisoner was searched at the station, but nothing was found.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650227-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650227-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-159" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18650227-name-159" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a bad shilling.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I did not know it was bad.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">Judgment respited.</hi> </rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-162" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE LANGHAM</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Mitre Tavern, St. Martin's-lane, which is thirty or forty yards from the Cranbourne Tavern; they are nearly opposite—one day in February the female prisoner came in with another woman; she called for half a quartern of rum, which came to threepence, and put down a bad florin—I said, "I will break it in two, and give it you</p>
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<p>back; it is very soft"—the other female paid me with a sixpence—the male prisoner then came in, and a quarrel commenced between him and the woman—he called for a pint of beer, but did not speak to the female prisoner—he came in with a female who quarrelled with the female prisoner—I had them all four put out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Samuel Robinson.</hi> I never saw you in my life till you gave your evidence against me.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I am certain of you.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; she put down a florin down—I saw that it was bad before I took it up, and while she was drinking the rum, I said it was bad—the man had not drank any—he pulled out some half-pence and another florin—the barman, who was stand
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<hi rend="italic">Samuel Robinson.</hi> Did not I say, "Look at this; see if this is good?'
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; you only took it in your hand with 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-164" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD DORE</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Cranbourne Tavern—I was stand
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-165" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ADAMS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, C</hi> 106). The prisoner was given into my custody with the two florins—I told them the charge; they made no reply—I searched the male prisoner, and found 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-166" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are both bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Samuel Robinson's Defence.</hi> I gave my mistress what money I had, and we went to a singing-room, and had a drop of drink. We went home, and I said, "Jane, I feel very cold, I should like something to drink"—she gave me 2
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<hi rend="italic">Jane Robinson.</hi> I gave them to him. I knew they were bad, I got them from a woman. I was the worse for drink.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL ROBINSON</hi>.—
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650227-309-offence-1 t18650227-name-170"/>Maria Hurst</persName>, </rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE WRIGHT</hi>** (38)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">RICHARDS</hi>.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, March</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1865.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Byles.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANN SMITH</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ORRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>
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<persName id="t18650227-name-176" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-176" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA BROWN</persName> </hi>. I live at 8, Barley-court, Drury-lane—my house is nearly opposite No. 3, where the prisoner lodged—on the morning of 24th January, a little after 2 o'clock I was going home—as I was returning up the court, I saw a man's cap fall down by the parlour-window, and immediately after that I saw the body of a man come out—he seemed to come out ail of a heap; I could not say whether he came feet first or head first, it was rather dark up at the end of the court—he came from the top-room window of No. 3; the second floor—he fell on the flags and groaned—I procured a light and called assistance; but before I had time to return, there were people in the court—there was a light in the room from the window of which he fell.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Amongst the people who had got there before you could get back with a light, was the prisoner one?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I aw her when I was standing by the side of the man—I saw her come out, with Mr. and Mrs. Stevens; they came immediately, and in a minute or two the prisoner came—she came after we were standing in the court—it was a very cold night, snowing—she was dressed—she had a cloak on.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-177" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I live at 3, Barley-court, Drury-lane—the prisoner lodged in the second-floor—on the morning of 24th January, between two and 3, I was in bed with my husband—I was awake—I heard the prisoner and a young man go up stairs—I did not bear more than the two footsteps go up stairs—as she went up I heard her say, "Come on, 'and he said, "All right"—it was a man's voice—I did not hear any more till I heard her say, "You shan't perform with me"—I then heard a heavy fall on the stones—I did not hear any sound of the window—I heard the groans of the man—I awoke my husband, and told him there was a man thrown out of window—two both got up and went out into the court—I saw a man lying there—I called to the prisoner for a light, and when she brought it I accused her of heaving the man out of the window—she said she did not, that he jumped out—I should think about three minutes elapsed from the time of my hearing the fall to the time of my getting the light from her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-178" type="given" value="FANNY"/>FANNY CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Mr. Clark, a baker, and live at 6, Cross-lane, Holborn—on 24th January I lodged at 8, Barley-court, Drury-lane, nearly opposite where the prisoner lodged—about 2 o'clock that morning I was going to bed—I opened the window to see if it was snowing, and hoard an altercation, very high words, in the prisoner's room—I could see it was her room, by the light in it—the voices were those of a man and woman—the angry words lasted about five minutes—I afterwards saw the window thrown open; I could not see by whom—I saw a man's round cap come out of the window as if it was thrown out, and then I saw the man's body come out in this way (
<hi rend="italic">leaning forward</hi>) with the head bent downwards and his hands down—I saw him fall on to the pavement and heard him groan—I ran downstairs—I heard Mr. and Mrs. Stevens calling to the prisoner three or four times, and telling her to bring a light—that was after I had got down—when she brought it she had her bonnet and cloak on—my room is on the first floor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-179" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BRESNAHAN</persName> </hi>. I live at 11, Charles-street, Drury-lane—on the morning of 24th January, about five minutes after 2, I was standing at the</p>
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<p>corner of Barley-court—I heard a groan and went up the court and saw a man lying on the ground senseless, bleeding from the head; his arm was underneath his body—I lifted his head up, and sent the witness Stevens, who lives in the parlour, in his shirt, to look for a policeman in Holborn—I held the man's head on my foot till the policeman came.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe you had seen the prisoner that morning before this?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; she then had the deceased arm—n-arm with her and another man walking by the side of her—I don't know that man; he had a high hat on with a hatband—they all three went right up the court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ORRIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did—you see all three go up the court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I remained at the corner for a few minutes—I was larking round the corner playing at snowballs—Barley-court is not a thoroughfare—I was larking about till I heard the groans—I did not know the deceased—I heard his name at the police-court—I believe he had been drinking—I have known the prisoner two years—she lived in one of my mother's places—I did not see them go into the house; only up the court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What makes you say you believe he had been drinking?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Because he staggered rather in going up the court—I was examined before the Coroner.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-180" type="given" value="FANNY"/>FANNY KELSEY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of James Kelsey, of 3, Little White Lion-street—I knew the deceased—I last saw him on the 23d January at half-past 11 at night—he came into a public-house and made himself known to me—I did not know him, not having seen him for fourteen years—he came in with two young men—they had a pint of ale—we came outside and stood talking for a few minutes—he asked me if I would take a drop of something with him, and we went and had a quartern of rum and some warm water between four of us—he left me about half-past 12, or it might be a quarter to 1—he was then apparently quite sober and cheerful.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-181" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WENSLEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, F</hi> 36). On the morning of 24th January, I was on duty in Drury-lane about 2 o'clock—from something that occurred I went into Barley-court—I there found the deceased lying insensible on the pavement—the prisoner and various witnesses were there—Mrs. Stevens said to me that the prisoner was the woman that took him up-stairs—the prisoner heard that; she made no reply—I told her I should take her into custody for throwing him out of window—she said, "All right"—another constable took her to the station—I took the deceased to the hospital.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-182" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police—inspector F</hi>). From something that occurred on the morning of 24th January, I went to Barley-court, and found the de
<lb/>ceased lying insensible on the pavement—I directed the last witness to take him to the hospital, and 37 F took the prisoner into custody—I took the charge against her at the station—after hearing the statement of the wit
<lb/>nesses, I told her she would be charged on suspicion of having thrown ft man out of the second-floor window of No. 3, Barley-court—when I read the charge over to her, she said "He came home with me and another man, he and his friend had a few words in the room, the deceased said, I am used to this sort of thing, threw up the window, and jumped out—Mrs. Stevens was by, and she said, "Don't tell lies, Annie, you know there was only one man"—the prisoner did not say anything to that—I have since measured the height of the window; it is twenty-five feet from the cill of the window to the ground, and the height of the cill from the floor of the room is two feet seven inches.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are there houses on both sides of the court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; there are eight or ten houses in the court, I believe—it is a paved</p>
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<p>court; it is in a turning called the Coal-yard, in Drury-lane—you go through the yard and then turn into the court—this is the last house but one on the left in the court—the width of the court is nine feet seven inches.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-183" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE STEVENS</persName> </hi> (
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BESLEY</hi>). When the prisoner came down and my wife said she had thrown a man out, she said, "I am sure I did not, for he jumped out"—she also said, "Where is his friend; where is the man with the high up hat?"</p>
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<interp inst="t18650227-name-184" type="given" value="HUTCHISON ROGERS"/>HUTCHISON ROGERS BELL</persName> </hi>. I am house-surgeon at King's College Hospital—on 24th January, the deceased was brought there between 2 and 3 in the morning—he was insensible, showing that he had received some severe injury to his brain; he was in a state of collapse—he spoke afterwards, but never became rational—he lingered to the second of the month—I made a post mortem examination—I found effusion of blood on the brain, and fracture of the skull and three of the ribs on the right side, and collapse of the lungs—the fracture and effusion was quite enough to cause death—