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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>HALE, MAYOR.</p>
<p>FOUTH SESSION, HELD JANUARY 30TH, 1865.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>ALEXANDER BUCKLER,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court,</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
<p>ROBERT ORRIDGE, ESQ.</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>BUTTERWORTHS, 7, FLEET STREET,</p>
<p>Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX KENT, AND SURREY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, January 30th, 1865, and following days.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
<hi rend="largeCaps">WARREN STORMES HALE, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; Sir
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-1" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL MARTIN</persName> </hi>, Knt., one of the Baron of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-2" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DUKE</persName> </hi>, Bart, M.P.; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANCIS GRAHAM MOON</hi>, Bart.; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER GARDEN</hi>, Knt.;
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-3" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CARTER</persName> </hi>, Esq., F.A.S., and F.R.A.S., Alderman of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq., Q.C., Recorder of the said City;
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN</hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">SILLS JOHN GIBBONS</hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">ANDREW LUSK</hi>, Esq.; and
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-4" type="given" value="DAVID HENRY"/>DAVID HENRY STONE</persName> </hi>, Esq., Aldermen of the said City; and
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-5" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Esq., Q.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS DAKIN</hi>, Esq., Alderman.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">SEPTIMUS DAVIDSON</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY DE JERSEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HALE, MAYOR. FOURTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CAPITAL CONVICTION</hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Friday, February</hi> 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, 1865.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Baron Martin.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GIFFARD</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">BEASLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. RIBTON</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-9" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK SHAW</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Golden Anchor, Great Saffron-hill—I know the prisoner by sight—I have known him about three months, I think—on Monday evening, 26th December last, he came to my house about 6 o'clock; it might have been a few minutes before 6—I and my wife were in the bar, very busy—the prisoner made some remark to her—I don't think she took any notice, and it passed on—I did not hear what he said, but he made some allusion towards myself; he said he could kill any such six Englishmen like me—I took no notice of that—I never spoke to the man in my life until after the occurrence took place—he stayed there some few minutes, and left—there were five or six others with him, all of them foreigners—they remained when he left—about a quarter of an hour or twenty minutes after that, I saw a foreigner of the name of Gregorio, or some such name—he was speaking Italian, and all of a sudden I saw his arm go up, and he struck me just by the side of the mouth with his fist—there were three or four other people there—this was at a little side-box leading from the taproom into the bar—it was not inside the taproom—I was in the bar at the time, on the side leading to the taproom—there were several foreigners in the taproom, I believe—there is a door from the taproom and a small passage into the bagatelle-room—there are two steps and a small passage between—there was no disturbance in the taproom till Gregorio struck me—after he struck me I was about to get over the bar to him, and he went into the taproom among the others—some of the customers in another compartment rushed round the bar and caught hold of me, and I was dragged into the bar-parlour, or as far as the door, on that occasion; I was about going into the taproom, but I was prevented, and pushed into the bar-parlour by several of the customers—I then went as far as the door and looked out, and saw Richard Fawell, 425, A—when I went out, I saw some of the Italians rushing out</p>
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<p>of the house—I went out to look for a policeman, and Fawell came in with me—he went into the taproom, and then several of them got hold of me and pushed me into the bar-parlour, and there held me—I saw no more till the prisoner was dragged out of the bagatelle-room—I saw him being brought from the bagatelle-room in custody of the police—I saw Michael Harrington, the deceased, brought outside into the bar-parlour—I heard that he had been stabbed, and I raised his clothes, or his shirt rather, which was all he had on at that time, except his trousers, and saw his bowels protruding—I did not observe what sort of a wound it was at the time—he was taken by the constable to the hospital.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I observe you say that when the prisoner came in on 26th December, he said something to your wife?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe he did as he passed; we were very busy—I did not hear what he said—I believe my wife is somewhere about the Court—it was to me he spoke about killing the English—I was within a foot of him, and he turned direct towards me and spoke—he said, "I could kill six any such Englishmen like you"—I am satisfied that is correct—I do not make the slightest mistake about it—I have always been certain that those were the exact words he made use of—I have been examined three or four times, I suppose, or two or three; I can't say—I was examined before the Magistrate on the first occasion, and afterwards before the Coroner.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I will read to you what you said before. "He said they would settle me, and that he could settle any six Englishmen like me;" do you observe that you said "settle" there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I might have made the mistake in the con
<lb/>fusion—I should think it is to the same effect—I should think now that the word "settle" was used—he might have used the word "settle"—I should take it to mean the same if used towards me, and I think you would too—he might have said either "settle" or "kill," I could not swear to it—he then went away—there were a number of Italians in the taproom at that time—I did not go in to see how many there were, but I should think from what I did see there were a dozen or fifteen—you can go into the bagatelle-room through the taproom, and there is another way—there is a door from the taproom into the bagatelle-room—I should think the size of the bagatelle-room is about twenty feet by twelve—there were chairs in it and a bagatelle-board in the corner, and a table on which refreshments are put for the people who are there—I told you there were about twelve or fifteen in the taproom; it would hold about as many again—there were about a dozen in the bagatelle-room, I should think, all English—there were no Italians in the bagatelle-room—I can't say whether other Italians came in with the prisoner—at the time the prisoner made use of the expression to me, the Italians were distributed about the room; they go in and out of the taproom very freely—I daresay they had gone in—there were only Italians in the taproom, no English at all to my knowledge—I did not go in to see—I can't say how long the Italians had been there—the prisoner went out about 6, I suppose—there had been some dancing in the house before that, being Christmas-time, in the taproom—I had seen the prisoner about three times previous to this—I can't say whether he had been dancing or not—the dancing was not going on between 5 and 6, before 5; I think it might have been between 4 and 5—there was nothing after 5; I would not be certain to a few minutes—I mentioned the name of Gregorio, not Rigorio; I thought you said "Rigorio"—I did not understand that was the man you meant for certain, because there are so many names alike—he struck me—I have learnt his name is Gregorio; I did not know the man's</p>
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<p>name till afterwards—I have said before to-day that he struck me; I said so at the Police-court before the Magistrate—I am sure of that—I signed my depositions, and they were read over to me—I have been in the police-force—I did say that Gregorio struck me; I swear that—I was examined before the Coroner also. (
<hi rend="italic">The witness's deposition being read, stated that Gregorio was excited, but did not state that he was struck by Gregorio.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> That is what you said before the Coroner; you introduce the name of Gregorio, and say he was very excited, but you don't say one word of his having struck you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I could not say anything about him till I heard his name—I did not know his name till the following morning—very likely I mentioned his name before the Coroner; I did not go before the Coroner for a week after it occurred; I had plenty of time to learn his name then—Gregorio said something about my striking an Italian, or something of that sort—I can scarcely understand what they say—I understood the prisoner—he can speak as good English as I can; better English than he can Italian—I could not say distinctly what it was Gregorio said—he was muttering; he is an excitable fellow—I saw his arm go up; lie was then standing in front of me—I was in the bar; he was on the other side of the bar—it was his left arm I saw go up, and then it was he struck me in the month—he then rushed into the taproom, and I saw no more of him.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it the fact that you had had any scuffle with an Italian?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I had turned one out the Saturday night previous.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was your father-in-law there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not at that time; he was there some time before, I believe before this happened between me and Gregorio—I can't say where he was when Gregorio struck me—he was not in the bar—I don't know where he was—I believe he was in the house—he was in the house when the transaction occurred about Harrington—I can't say where he was—I believe he is not here to-day.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-10" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED REBBECK</persName> </hi>. I am potman at the Golden Anchor—on 26th December, I was engaged serving in the bagatelle-room—I went into the bar for a pipe—the entrance into the bar is at the end of the bagatelle-room—the door which leads from the taproom is at the side of the bagatelle-room—there is also another way into the bar through the taproom—I passed through the taproom to get to the door at first, before I went for the pipe—as I passed through the taproom I saw a great many Italians all together; among others was the prisoner—he was there by the door of the taproom—one of the other Italians named John spoke to me as I went out—the prisoner might have heard what John said; I can't say whether he heard it or not—in consequence of what John said, I went back into the bagatelle-room—when I got there, I made a statement to the English
<lb/>men there—no one went and tried to shut the door then—I was asked for a pipe, and I went into the bar by the bagatelle-room door—there were no Italians in the bagatelle-room then—I got the pipe and brought it back into the bagatelle-room—when I got back I saw one of them knocking Mrs. King down—she was at the door at that moment, in the doorway going to the taproom—there were not several people together then—Seraphini, the prisoner, was leading the way in; he was first—I told him I did not want any row here—as I got up to the door, the prisoner stabbed me in the right side—I saw the knife—I don't know what sort of a knife it was—I did not see the handle; I only saw the blade of it—I had known Seraphini before; I have known him for the last four or five years—when he stabbed me, I hit him in the head with a stick, a broom-handle—he ran at me again after I hit him in the head, with the knife still in his hand—I was then just inside</p>
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<p>the bagatelle-room door—I heard one of them say, "Here is one in the room; look out, here is one in the room"—Mrs. King was behind the door then—Boon after, I turned round and saw Seraphim on the top of Harrington—there was no other Italian besides the prisoner in the room at that time, that I saw—I rushed on Seraphini, caught him by the collar, and then lost my senses—I am still a patient at the hospital.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you ever said before to-day that there was no other Italian in the bagatelle-room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I said there was no other in the room at the Clerkenwell Police-court—I was asked the question there—the Magistrate asked me if there was any other in the bagatelle-room, and I said, "No"—my depositions were read over to me before I signed them—I believe the Magistrate asked me the question—since I was examined before the Magistrate nobody has asked me—I have not been asked about it—I had been in the bagatelle-room before I saw this happen—I had left the bagatelle-room to go through the bar for a pipe—a great many of them were in the bagatelle-room when I left it; English, not Italians; there was Harrington and another man of the name of Pikey, with one or two Irishmen—there were no Italians—there were Italians in the taproom; as near as I can judge, between twelve and fourteen—the taproom-door was open; the bagatelle-room door was not—the door from the bagatelle-room to the taproom was open; I passed through, but they would not let me go quite through—a man told me to go back, a man they call John, an Italian-struck the prisoner with a broom-handle—I brought it up to protect myself—there was a blind-roller there and a copper-stick, I believe—there were two blind-rollers, I believe—they were in the bagatelle-room—I brought them up about ten minutes before that, from down stairs, in the kitchen—I brought them into the bagatelle room, because one or two in the room said, "If they come in here, we will protect ourselves, "when I told them there was going to be a row—I can't say who it was who said that—the expression was not, "Bring us up as many sticks as you can"—they said, "We won't go out, we will wait here; if they break in on us, we will protect ourselves"—then, afterwards, one of them said, "How nice we should look; if they come in here with knives; what are we to do, we have only got our hands?"—they then asked me if I would have sticks ready to protect themselves if they came out, and I brought these up to them—there were two blind-rollers, a copper-stick, and a broom-handle I brought up; I believe that was all—there were not more, that I am aware of; I don't know, I did it all in a flurry at the time—I was in the bagatelle-room at the time I laid the broom-handle over the prisoner's head—after I brought the broom-handle up it was lying in the bagatelle-room; I put it down on the form—I don't know whether any of the sticks were broken; mine was not, that I am aware of—I don't know whether the prisoner's head was cut and bleeding—I hit him in the head—I did not see any other man's head cut—I was at the bagatelle-room door at the time he struck me with the knife—he was in the passage, coming from the taproom—he was nearer to the bagatelle-room than the taproom; he was right in the bagatelle-room door—the passage is about two feet wide, just about a little wider than this witness-box—as many as liked could come through, if they followed one another—I was nearer the bagatelle-room door than he was, because I was at the door—I was not looking into the bagatelle-room; I was looking at him coming, looking towards the taproom—when I saw Mrs. King knocked down, I was coming into the bagatelle-room with the pipe—it was not in the taproom that she was knocked down, it was in the passage—</p>
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<p>she was leaving the bagatelle-room door—by the passage, I mean that passage which parts the bagatelle-room from the taproom—I was not in the taproom when she was knocked down; I was leaving the bar, and coming into the bagatelle-room with the pipe—she was going out of the bagatelle-room—I saw one of them knock her down—I don't know which it was; I can't say it was the prisoner; I don't know; I don't think it was him, but I can't say—I am not sure it was not him—I swear that—I can't swear whether it was him or not; it might be, and it might not—I can't say it was him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I will read to you what you said before the Magistrate. "I saw one of the party knock Mrs. King down; it was not Seraphini
<hi rend="italic">done</hi> that"?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I say I daren't swear it was him or no; I said it was not him—I don't think it was him—I am not quite certain I did say so before the Magistrate; and I say now, I daren't say it was him of no—coming in in a flurry, and seeing them knocking about with their knives, I cannot be sure—the taproom was lighted up—there was a gas-burner there—the Italians were standing up in the taproom, all standing up ready, talking very loud when I went in—I was not there two minutes—I don't know a man of the name of Gregorio, not by name—I don't know the man who struck the landlord; I did not see that—I don't know what became of the man who knocked Mrs. King down—I daren't say who it was done that.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say you were going out to get a pipe?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and I was struck at the door—when I was asked for the pipe, I put the broom-handle on the form near the door—I did not take it up before I was struck; I was stabbed before I took it up—I then took it up and struck the prisoner in the head—I only struck him once—he then made a run at me, and I put my hand to my side—it was shortly after that I saw Harrington and him on the floor.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-11" type="given" value="MARIA"/>MARIA KING</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of William King, of Leather-lane, a bone button manufacturer—I was with my husband on the night of 26th De
<lb/>cember at the Golden Anchor—we were in the bagatelle-room—Michael Harrington, the deceased, was there, and several others, English persons, in the same room—there were no Italians in that room; they were all English—I left the room, and proceeded to come out; that was from 6 o'clock to half-past—I was leaving to go home—my husband was there with Harring
<lb/>ton and the other English persons in the room—I was coming out at the bagatelle-room door to pass through the passage—when I came to the door the prisoner knocked me down—he knocked me down with his fist, in the mouth.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Crow-examined. Q.</hi> There were a great many Italians there, were there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not see but very few—there were none came in the room but the prisoner—none came in at the door but the one that knocked me down there were no Italians in the bagatelle-room—there was a rush when I was knocked down; it was at the bagatelle-room door where the rush was made—it was not in the passage that I was knocked down—it was in the baga
<lb/>telle-room—I was stunned for a time; there was a rush, and I was knocked down, and I was insensible, and knew no more—I was opening the door, and I was knocked down by the prisoner, and there was a rush made directly—there was a rush made by the Italians at the time I was knocked down—I don't know where Rebbeck was at that time—I don't know how many Italians there were; what they did after I was knocked down I don't know—I saw no more till I saw the prisoner in custody, and then Harrington was on the floor—I did not see Rebbeck stabbed; I was on the ground—it was</p>
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<p>not the rush that caused me to fall; it was the blow and the rush together the blow and the rush at the same time—the blow and the rush were simultaneous—the prisoner struck me with his fist—I could not tell you which fist it was; I did not see; I was struck before I saw his fist—I saw his face—I did not see the landlord struck—I saw no one struck.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say there was a rush of Italians when you were struck, were you able to see whether any Italians got into the bagatelle-room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I did not see, as I was knocked down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-12" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-12" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-12" type="surname" value="MELLERSHIP"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-12" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD MELLERSHIP</persName> </hi>. I am a button-maker—on the night of 26th December, I was at the Golden Anchor, in the bagatelle-room—Michael Harrington was there; he sat opposite me, and when the Italian rushed in, he stood beside me—I had been singing a song when the Italian rushed in—Harrington was close by my side—Seraphini is the Italian who rushed in—the prisoner; no other Italian besides the prisoner got into the room—as he rushed in, he struck the deceased in the stomach with his right hand—it was a side blow—I did not see anything in his hand; but when Har
<lb/>rington was struck he fell to the ground—my wife was in the room at the time, close to me—she pulled me away from the side of Harrington after he fell—immediately she pulled me away, I observed some blood on her shawl—after I recovered, I went to Harrington again, and saw that he was stabbed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see Mrs. King?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I did not see her struck—I saw her in the room after she was struck—I saw her partly on the ground—I saw several other Italians trying to get into the room, but they were forced back—there was a rush of Italians into the bagatelle-room, but they could not get in—they tried to get in, and they were forced back, after Harrington had fallen to the ground—they were not in then—no other than the prisoner came in; I mean to swear that—I have said that before—I swear that he was the only Italian that came into the room—(
<hi rend="italic">The witness's deposition being read, stated</hi>: "The prisoner rushed in first; there were several other Italians behind him; when the Italians came into the room, the de
<lb/>ceased had just finished singing a song, and the prisoner, without having a word with him, struck the deceased, and he fell")—I have not been talking over this matter with anybody since; not with any of the witnesses or Mr. Shaw—I have seen him several times since—I have been to the house—I know Potter, the constable—I have not been talking with him about the case—I have never said anything about it; nor to Mr. Shaw, not in parti
<lb/>cular; not at all; there has been no allusion to it; only when Mr. Potter has told me to attend the Police-court, or anything like that—I mean to say that the name of the prisoner has never been mentioned, or the transaction been spoken of—I never talked it over every time I went in the house; it has not been the subject of conversation once between Shaw and Potter and me—I may have spoken once or twice about it, but I never had a general con
<lb/>versation about it—Harrington was about two feet from the door—I was exa
<lb/>mined before the Coroner, and before the Magistrate also—it was Stanley who knocked the prisoner down; he fell on Harrington—I did not see Mrs. King knocked down; I was about a yard from the door—I saw the rush made in the room after she was knocked down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was there any confusion in the bagatelle-room before you say the prisoner came in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; the confusion commenced by his knocking Mrs. King down—there was then a confusion by the rush of the Italians, attempting to get into the room.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-13" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-13" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-13" type="surname" value="STANLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-13" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE STANLEY</persName> </hi>. I am a painter and decorator—on 26th December, I</p>
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<p>was at the Golden Anchor between 6 and 7 o'clock—I was in the bagatelle-room—there were no Italians in that room when I went in—I saw Seraphini. (
<hi rend="italic">the prisoner</hi>); I struck him on the head, you will find the mark now—I did not see him till he came into the bagatelle-room—the door was shut upon him immediately, he being the only Italian in the room—he was the first man that entered the room, and the door was shut immediately—there was no other Italian in the room at that time—as soon as he came in at the door he made a thrust at Harrington, he being nearest the door—it was not a straight-forward thrust, but a sort of side blow—that was the first thing I saw him do—Harrington fell—the prisoner then made his way towards the door to get out, but Ban
<lb/>nister was standing in the way, and of course he was taking his own part, punching him—he was standing at the door, so that Seraphini should not go out; Seraphini struck him, and he was knocked down, and rolled under the bagatelle-board—I saw blood coming from Ban
<lb/>nister's hand; I don't know whether it was his right or left band—I struck the prisoner on the head with a piece of wood, and he fell to the ground on the top of Harrington.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see Mrs. King in the room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I did not see her knocked down, but I saw her coming in a funny sort of manner through the door—I did not see the man that struck her, because the man that struck her was in the tap-room—I did not see her on the ground—I cannot tell whether she was shoved, or pushed, or flung into the bagatelle-room—I saw her come stumbling backwards—whether she was shoved or pushed I don't know; it must have been either one or the other, I can't say which—I can't say whether she fell on the ground or not; I was looking after myself—I did not see a rush of Italians into the room; I saw a rush made to come into the room, but there was only that man that came in at the door, and the door was shut then, so that it was impossible for any more to come in—there would have been, if it had not been for our people keeping them back—the door was not opened immediately after Bannister was knocked down; I said to King, "Open the door, and let them come in one at a time, "and he opened the door a little way, and then Seraphini came in, and it was shut directly—Bannister was standing against the door when he was struck; I can't say whether his back was to the door or not—he was standing against the door at the time he struck him, and he rolled under the bagatelle-board—no one whatever came in but the prisoner—when Ban
<lb/>nister was knocked down, there was nobody at the door to keep it closed,
<hi rend="italic">barring</hi> Mr. King; he was standing against the door—it was before any one came in that I told Mr. King to let them in one at a time; King was next to the door when Bannister was knocked down; I don't know whether or no he had the handle in his hand—Bannister was struck subsequently to the deceased being struck; Bannister was the last man they struck, and then I struck Seraphini on the head, and he fell upon Harrington, and then King and Mellership caught hold of him—at the time they caught hold of him the Italians had not rushed into the room—there was no one; I will swear that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-14" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-14" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-14" type="surname" value="LIDDLE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-14" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LIDDLE</persName> </hi>. I am a French polisher—I was in the Golden Anchor on the night of 26th December—I was in the bagatelle-room—I remember Michael Harrington, the deceased, singing a song—I sang one before him—just after he had sung his song, there was some confusion in the front room next the street, the tap-room; then there was some information given us—I saw the prisoner rush into the room, and strike at Harrington in this manner, and he fell—I had a stick in my hand, and I struck at the prisoner, and</p>
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<p>another young man struck him as well as myself, and he fell on Harrington, and I heard Harrington say, "I am stabbed"—no other Italian besides the prisoner got into the room at the time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was there no other Italian at any time in the room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, not one—there were about twelve or fourteen English—at no period of the proceedings, until the prisoner was taken away, was there any other Italian in the room; they were trying to get in—the prisoner rushed in, and others tried to get in afterwards, but they were knocked back, they rushed out; they were knocked back again—then the police were in in a second—they might have got in before the police came; I can't say—there might be two or three in the confusion, but I think the police had got the prisoner in hand at the time—I think not one Italian had got in before the police got in—they attempted to get in after the police came—there was not one in the room at the time Harrington was struck; I swear that—Mr. Shaw went for the police—I know he went, because he went out after the policeman; there happened to be a private policeman there, and he fetched another one in uniform—I know Mr. Shaw fetched the police—I have heard him say so; I can't swear it; I only go by what he said—I did not go for the police; I was in the room all the time—I am a French polisher by trade; I live at 10, South-square, Gray's-inn—I work at my trade; I am in constant work, and I employ men, too—I had business at the Golden Anchor—I had work to do the whole week there, polishing, up to the 26th, boxing-day—there were about twelve or fourteen English in the bagatelle-room; there were two women, or perhaps three; two I know, Mrs. King and Mrs. Mellerehip—I did not see Bannister struck—I saw Mrs. King knocked down; she was knocked down by Seraphini, as he rushed into the room—I know it was Seraphim—I don't go by what I have heard; what I see is positive—he was the only one that came in—she was not then in the passage; the door flew open, and she was partly thrown in—she was shoved and pushed against the door.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> And you mean to say you saw who pushed or struck her?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Who could it be but him?—there was no one else but Seraphini there; I say he was the one, I am positive; it was impossible it could be any one else—I did not see any other Italian in the room, not till afterwards; two or three made an attempt, or it might be three or four; but they were pushed back and struck at, and they rushed back; they withdrew as fast as they could.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> They did not get in at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, only just inside the door, and they rushed back again in a moment.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-15" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-15" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-15" type="surname" value="KING"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-15" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM KING</persName> </hi>. I am a bone button manufacturer, and am the husband of Maria King—I was at the Golden Anchor this evening, in the bagatelle-room; between 6 and 7 o'clock—there were several of us, all English, except two Irishmen—I saw my wife go out to go home—I saw her knocked down—I did not see who knocked her down—I went and picked her up—at that time Seraphini had got into the bagatelle-room; nobody else; I never saw any one else—I saw Harrington there, and I saw the prisoner upon him; I took him off Harrington, and gave him into the bands of the constable—I kept him in hand all the time till the constable came in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You say there was no other Italian got into the room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I never saw one—I was asked that question before, at Bagnigge-wells, and answered it; 1 mean when I was examined before the Magis
<lb/>trate—(
<hi rend="italic">The witness's deposition being ready stated</hi>: "The prisoner and other Italians came into the room.")—that is a mistake, because no one entered</p>
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<p>the room but him—I did not see Bannister knocked down; I did not see the prisoner knocked down; I was knocked down myself behind the door—I can't say who knocked me down—no one has been talking to me about this since I was before the Magistrate; I have not been conversing with anybody about it—I swear that; I have never talked of it in the way of gossip and conver
<lb/>sation over a pint of beer—I have never talked of it; I have heard other people talking; I did not join in it—I have read the papers; I have not seen my deposition that I made before the Magistrate since, only by reading' it in the papers—nobody has read it for me; nobody was with me when I read it; I generally read the paper myself—I have never spoken to any
<lb/>body about the transaction since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-16" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-16" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-16" type="surname" value="ELLIOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-16" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ELLIOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, G</hi> 137). I was called to the Golden Anchor on the night of 26th December last, by Fawell another constable—I went through the tap-room into the bagatelle-room—there were a number of Italians—I think they had just been making a rush; they were standing in a crowd together—I went to the bagatelle-room door; it was shut—I and Fawell forced it open—when I got into the room I found the prisoner in the custody of the witness King; he had hold of him—at the time I forced the door open there was no other Italian in the bagatelle-room besides the prisoner—I took him away—he had the handle of a broom in his hand.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you know the persons that were in the bagatelle-room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I knew some of them by sight—I dare say there were as many as twelve or fifteen—I did not notice any women in the tap-room; I thought you were talking of the tap-room—I only saw Italians in the tap-room—the prisoner was the only Italian I saw in the bagatelle-room—I expect if there had been any in there I should hate seen them as well as him—I have known pretty nearly all the Italians that have been there—I have been doing duty round that neighbourhood for a number of years, and I knew pretty well all the Italians in the tap-room—I did not notice any in the bagatelle-room—I swear I saw none, only the prisoner—he had a broom handle in his hand—I heard that a man had been wounded while I was in the tap-room—I did not search for a knife at that time; after leaving the prisoner at the station I returned back and then made a search—I can't say exactly who I found in the bagatelle-room after I came back; there was a number of people—I could not say whether it was the same party; there were no Italians—I think I have been asked before to-day whether there were any Italians besides the prisoner in the bagatelle-room—I may have been; I think I have—(
<hi rend="italic">The witness's deposition being read, did not con
<lb/>tain any such statement</hi>)—there were no Italians in the bagatelle-room that I noticed, but the prisoner—I think I was asked that question before the Magistrate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long have you been on that beat?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About four year on and off.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-17" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-17" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-17" type="surname" value="FAWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-17" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD FAWELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, A</hi> 425). I was passing the door of the Golden Anchor on this night, and was called in by the landlord—after that I fetched in the last witness Elliott, and he and I proceeded from the tap-room to the bagatelle-room—the bagatelle-room door was shut—we had first of all to pull the tap-room door open, and then push the bagatelle-room door open—I saw the prisoner there; he was in a stooping position, held by Mr. King—the deceased was in a corner of the room—I did not see any other Italians in the room—I took him into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you follow the prisoner into the bagatelle-room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> After I heard what I did from Rebbeck—I did not see Mrs. King</p>
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<p>knocked down—I have not been looking out for another Italian—I have made inquiries for another; one particular one, who is supposed to be away—I have not been able to find him—he is known by the name of Gregorio—I know Mr. Wells, the father-in-law of Mr. Shaw—I have never taken anybody to Mr. Wells to see if he could identify him—I do not know whether or not that has been done—I saw Harrington lying on the ground—I did not know that he had been wounded—I did not know anything about Harrington till After I had returned from taking the prisoner to the police-station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-18" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-18" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-18" type="surname" value="POTTER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-18" type="given" value="THOMAS AMBROSE"/>THOMAS AMBROSE POTTER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-inspector, G</hi>). In consequence of infor
<lb/>mation I received, I took the prisoner in a cab to St. Bartholomew's Hospital, on the evening of 26th December—I was accompanied by Fawell, Elliott, and sergeant Baldock—on getting to the hospital I found the deceased in bed attended by Dr. Peerless—I took the prisoner to the bedside with a number of persons, I should think there were ten or twelve; as many as could possibly stand round the bed, and I think they were two deep at some places—I took hold of the deceased's hand and said, "Harrington," several times before I could arouse him—I said, "Do you understand what I am saying?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, "In consequence of what the doctor, who is now present, has told me, I must inform you that you have but a short time to live"—he said, "If I am to die, the Lord have mercy upon me, "then went off apparently into a doze, and with some difficulty with the assistance of the doctor we aroused him—I then asked him where he was hurt—he said, "In the belly, untie my belly,"—several times—I then asked him to look round his bed and see if there was any one there he knew—he looked round, pointed to the prisoner and said, "That is the man who did it; God bless him!"—I be
<lb/>lieve those were the words—I should not like to be exactly positive whether it was "God bless him, "or "God forgive him"—he then went off into I doze again—sergeant Baldock, who was by my side, wrote down what he said, because I had to hold his head up—I then read over what he had said and asked him to sign it—after I read it over, the prisoner said, "I do not understand English writing; I said, "What Harrington has said was that you did it"—the prisoner said, "Oh,"—that was all—the deceased refused to sign it, and repeated several times, "God bless him." or "God forgive him."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> The prisoner had been taken in custody of course before that by Baldock?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—he had been in custody before that—I did not before that on any occasion hear him assert or declare that he never used a knife; I do not know it of my own knowledge only what I have heard other witnesses say—when the deceased pointed to the prisoner he said, "That is the man that did it, the man with a black mous
<lb/>tache"—I forgot to tell you that before—I did not forget it before the Magistrate, the occurence was fresh in my memory then—I did not forget it before the coroner—I swore to that fact before the coroner, whether it is there or not—I do not find fault with the clerks or throw it upon them—I cannot give any explanation of why it is not in the deposition—I did not say it to-day till I was cross-examined—the prisoner appeared to have a black moustache, he does not, as he is sitting there, but it is not so long now—it certainly appeared more black than it does now—I have been on the lookout for three other Italians, but not for one more than another—Mr. Wells, Shaw's father-in-law, has not been assisting me—I was not aware that any one had been taken to Mr. Wells to see if he could identify him—I do not know Carlo Chasana or Gregorio Geratti—none have been taken to my knowledge,</p>
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<p>or brought to me—I have been looking out for some men—I went to the—Bordeasa public-house to look after those men—Mr. Wells did not accom
<lb/>pany me there—I have had a man specially employed for a few days to look after them, his name is Fawell, I believe he was the last witness, he is in Court; but the inquiries have ceased—I was looking for the others by the Magistrate's instructions; I also used my own discretion in the matter—I found three others were concerned in the matter, and I felt it my duty to look after them—I believe I asked Shaw some time ago whether he knew where the four men were to be found who were wanted for aiding and abet
<lb/>ting in the transaction—I have heard the names you mentioned, but I do not know the men—yon asked me if I knew them, and I told you no—no men were apprehended to my knowledge—I went to the Three Tuns public-house with three other constables in private clothes who are not here—I heard that some of the men were there, the first man you mentioned, and went up into the room where I expected, to find him, but he had just gone—there were several Italians sitting round a table, but I saw no one asleep or with his head lying down on the table, or I should have taken the opportunity of looking at him—there was no one with his head down—I did not ask anybody if that was the man, because I had got a constable' of the C division with me, I forget his name, who knew him well—Mr. Wells was not with me; I swear that, but not feeling exactly satisfied from what I had heard, that the man was in the house, I sent for Mr. Wells afterwards to go and look in front of the bar, to see if he could see him, and whether he told me or one of the constables that he could not see him I cannot say—I did not tell you before that Mr. Wells gave me no assistance at all; I swear that—that was the only occasion that I had a conversation with Mr. Wells, with reference to the men who are away—Mr. Wells was not asked to identify the men he saw at the public-house that night—I sent for him to see if he could see one of those persons in front of the bar who had made their escape on the 26th—I do not know whether he must have been present and seen it all—I should not have sent for him unless I had believed he had—I do not know that a man named Charles Chasana was taken by a detective in plain clothes to Great Saffron-hill and shown to me; there was a man standing at the corner, and I was asked by a civilian, who I did not know, if that was one of the men who ran away, but he did not answer the description—Fawell gave me the description—there were four or five different descriptions—one was, "dressed in dark clothes, fresh colour, no whiskers, whiskers shaved off, "and so on—another was, "No whiskers, "and so on—I had the description of four—I have not got the descriptions here—I have no interest in it, I cannot be accurate in giving it to you, and I shall not do it—I do not recollect the description of the four as I received it, because I took it down in writing—I did not send for Mr. Wells on more than one occasion; it might have been—me who sent for him once, I will not be certain whether I sent for him or one of the other officers did, it is a matter of so little difference—(
<hi rend="italic">Three men were here brought into Court</hi>)—I do not know that I ever saw those men before in my life—no men were brought to me, but I saw a man standing; that was on the night after the murder, the 27th—I saw him near the Three Tuns—that was not when I went up stairs and sent for Mr. Wells—I do not know Bondessa; if he is the landlord I do not know him; I never spoke to the man in my life—I went up stairs at the Three Tons, if that is the house you are speaking of—I did not speak to the land-lord, I did not see him—I never spoke to any one in the house but a female</p>
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<p>—I did not go to the Three Tuns; I did not ask permission to search it, nor did anybody—I spoke to a female at the bottom of the stairs, and said, "Which is your parlour?"—she put her hand in this way, and I walked up stairs—Wells was not with me, I sent for him after I had left the house—I saw several foreigners in front of the bar when I came down, and whether I or one of the others sent for him I do not know, therefore I shall not say—the other man who was shown to me was close to the public-house I did not say that there was a man upstairs who I looked at, but did not take—I looked at the foreigners up in the room—when I sent for Mr. Wells it was not to look at one of those who were in the Three Tons—I dare say it was done through me or one of the other officers—I had never spoken to Mr. Wells but once in my life; it was to look at the foreigners in front of the bar, but I do not think I spoke to Mr. Wells—the party I saw who did not coincide was standing near the public-house; I said that he was not the man—I cannot say who the man was who called ray attention to him; he was a policeman, and I believe of the C division, I had get him there special—I looked at the man he pointed out—I did not examine him well; I could see he did not answer the description, knowing that those people have left the country, I did not further search—I cannot remember the description of the four men now, but I could then so as to say that that was not one of them—the description had reference to a man with a dark moustache, that was the description, I believe of two of them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it night-time or daytime that you were at the hospital?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the same night about 10 o'clock, I first went to the Royal Free Hospital to a man who has been examined to-day, before I went to Harrington—among the men who stood round Harrington's bed there were men who I believe I have seen at the public-house, but I should not like to be too positive.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-19" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-19" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-19" type="surname" value="PEERLBSS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-19" type="given" value="CHARLES DURRANT"/>CHARLES DURRANT PEERLBSS</persName> </hi>. I am house-surgeon of St. Bartholomew's hospital—I remember the deceased being brought there on the night of 26th December, about 7 o'clock—he was in a state of great collapse—I found an incised wound about an inch and three-quarters long on his abdo
<lb/>men, through which the intestines were protruding—it was close to the navel—there were also four wounds in the protruding intestines—there was a great deal of hæmorrhage—I put back the intestines, closed the wound, and put the poor man to bed—he died about half-past 3 next morning—he was conscious when Inspector Potter came at half-past 8, and I told him that he had not many hours to live—I was present when a number of men were round his bed—I had then told him that he bad not long to live.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> At that time did the man, according to your judgment, be
<lb/>lieve he was in a dying state?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There were six wounds were there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There were six wounds in the intestines—I made a post-mortem exami
<lb/>nation and found two more afterwards—I should say undoubtedly that the six wounds were produced by the same stroke of the knife; the same stroke of the knife which produced one wound in the abdomen would also produce those several wounds in the intestines; it might have moved in the abdomen, but it was not withdrawn and put in again—it is possible that the wounds in the intestines could have been made after they protruded, but very im
<lb/>probable—I do not think they were produced afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was his death produced by that wound?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Clearly.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-20" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-20" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-20" type="surname" value="BALDOCK"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-20" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BALDOCK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-sergeant, G</hi> 1). On the night of 26th December the prisoner was brought to the station by Fawell and Elliott—Fawell</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300015"/>
<p>charged him with stabbing Rebbeck—I asked the prisoner if he understood English—he said yes—I examined his hands, and found his right hand covered with blood—I found an old knife on him which had not been used for some time—I pointed out the blood on his hands to him, and he said, "I only protected myself"—I got intelligence directly that a man had been taken to the hospital, but I did not know it was Harrington—I heard of Harrington's death about 7 next morning—I then told the prisoner that he was charged with the wilful murder of Michael Harrington, by stabbing him in the belly with a knife—he said, "I never used a knife."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you take down that statement in writing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yea—I have not got it here; it was produced at the police-court, and I never saw it afterwards—the Magistrate said it was of no use, they could not take it, and it was put on one side.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witnesses for the Defence</hi>,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-21" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-21" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-21" type="surname" value="SAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-21" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN SAMS</persName> </hi>. I live at King Edward-street, Mile End—between 5 and 6 o'clock, on the evening of 26th December, I was at the Golden Anchor—I danced one dance with the prisoner; I did not finish it—he went out of the public-house when I ceased to dance with him—it was then be
<lb/>tween 5 and 6, as near as I can tell—I recollect the
<hi rend="italic">row</hi> commencing; I was then in front of the bar—I did not see the prisoner in the house then; I saw another man, who I knew by the name of Gregorio, with a dark moustache—he is like the prisoner—I saw him strike the blow at Mr. Shaw, who was standing in front of the bar—I do not know what he said, I saw him strike the blow and shake his hand—I do not know whether he spoke in Italian, I rushed into the dancing-room—he struck Mr. Shaw in the side box; I then saw Gregorio shake his head and bite his teeth with pas
<lb/>sion at Mr. Shaw, and Mrs. Shaw pushed her husband away, and told him to go into the parlour—Gregorio's brother was with him—I saw them both rush from the side box, to open the side door, to go to the bagatelle-room;—they opened the dancing-room door first—I saw Gregorio's brother open the door of the dancing-room, and then he pushed the bagatelle-room door open—there are two doors to the bagatelle-room—I did not see what was done in the bagatelle-room—when Gregorio and his brother rushed into the side box there were other Italians there fighting with one another—Gregorio was the first one that came out of the bagatelle-room; him and his brother—Gregorio came out without a cap—he said to another man, "Come outside, it is all right, "in English—his brother seemed in the heat of passion then, and very white—I saw no blood—I was too frightened to look at him—I went into the side box where Mr. Shaw was first struck—I heard Gregorio call Mr. Wells a b----yold b----rhis brother then asked him who it was kept him out—he said nobody kept him out but the Italians, and he said, "You b----y old b----r, if you come out I will serve you the same, "or "serve you like it"—Gregorio said that to Mr. Wells—I fetched a cab for Mr. Shaw—there was another cab there before that cab got to Mr. Shaw's house—I had not heard before I went for the cab that any one had been wounded, and I did not know who it was for; Mr. Shaw asked me to fetch it, and I did.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFTARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How do you get your living?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> By brush-drawing—I carry on my business in Bury-street, St. Mary-are—I went to the Golden Anchor with a friend, not the prisoner; I was in before he came in—Mr. and Mrs. Murphy were my friends; I believe they are here—I went out into the bar after the dance which I had with the prisoner</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300016"/>
<p>—I did not finish the dance because I was frightened that I should fall down, he treading on my frock—I went out into the bar—when you are in the bar you cannot see into the taproom—there is a door from the taproom into the street—that is the door you go in first, into the public-house—I do not know whether there is a door from the taproom which leads into the street straight—when the prisoner parted with me, after the dance was finished, I never saw him again that night—I had not heard that anybody had been stabbed when I left the house—I was in the dancing-room when I saw Gregorio and his brother at the bagatelle-room door—there is the door of the tap-room, and then a small passage in the door of the bagatelle-room—I was at the other side of the room when I saw Gregorio and his brother—I did not see what was done in the bagatelle room door; when the door is open you can see the other door, if you are in front, and I was in front—I was on the other side of the tap-room when Gregorio rushed out of the tap-room—I can't tell you how many people made the rush, or who they were—I have not seen any of them here to-day—I know Gregorio's brother; he is not here—I knew him before—I never had conversation with Gregorio; I only knew him by seeing him in company with other men—I did not see him that night for the first time; I had seen him before—I did not see Mrs. King knocked down—I did not see her, or any woman near the baga
<lb/>telle-room door at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How do you say you get your living; what do you work at?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Brush-drawing—I have no place of my own; I work at Bury-street, St. Mary-axe—my master has an English name—I have worked there be
<lb/>tween five and six months—I have not been in the habit of going much to the Golden Anchor, since I have lived at Mile-End New-town—I am not a girl of the town, and I should not like to be one; I get my living honestly—I did not see any knives—I was in the dancing-room then—that was, as near as I can tell, about twenty minutes after the prisoner left me—I saw a rush made but I can't tell how many made it—I never heard that they were using knives at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You told my friend you heard they were using knives, and that you heard that about twenty minutes after the prisoner had left you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not hear they were using knives; I heard they were fighting in the baga
<lb/>telle-room, and in the dancing-room they were fighting with sticks from one door to the other—I heard nothing about knives that night—a cab was sent for; I went for it, Mrs. Shaw asked me to do so; she did not tell me who it was for, and I did not know till after I came back; I was absent about ten minutes—I came back, and then heard that Mr. Harrington was stabbed—I do not know whether he had been removed from the house before I got back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-22" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-22" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-22" type="surname" value="ANGELINETTA"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-22" type="given" value="ROCIO"/>ROCIO ANGELINETTA</persName> </hi>. I reside at 73, St. John-street, Clerkenwell—I had a person named Gregorio in my employment; he resided in my house—I have not seen him from 26th December up to this time—he was not under notice to leave—I did not know that he was not going to return—I believe he came back that evening, but I did not see him—his things are not there—I knew next morning that they were gone—he was like the prisoner—on Christmas-day he shaved in the same manner as the prisoner—previous to that he had a short shaggy beard—his moustaches were about the same colour.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-23" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-23" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-23" type="surname" value="MARIZZONI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-23" type="given" value="GIOVANNI"/>GIOVANNI MARIZZONI</persName> </hi>. I reside at 1, Frances-court, Bickley-street, Clerk
<lb/>enwell—I know Gregorio very well—he came to my house on 26th Decem
<lb/>ber,</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300017"/>
<p>about a quarter to 10 at night, and asked me whether I would allow him to sleep on the shavings in my workshop—I said, "Yes, "and asked him whether he had left his master.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he say anything to you about anything that occurred at the Golden Anchor? (
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">objected to this question, the prisoner not being present on the occasion.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that he was entitled to prove two things; first, that the prisoner was not the man; and, second, that somebody else was the man, and that an expression made use of by Gregorio, though in the pri
<lb/>soner's absence, was part of the res gestae, and could be given in evidence. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered that there was not the slightest pretence for supposing the evidence admissible</hi>)—Gregorio very much resembles the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you examined before the Justices?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-24" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-24" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-24" type="surname" value="MOOSI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-24" type="given" value="GASPANE"/>GASPANE MOOSI</persName> </hi>. I know a man named Gregorio; I have not seen him since 26th December—I know the prisoner very well; Gregorio is very much like him in appearance—I was in the Golden Anchor on the night when Harrington was wounded—I was in the taproom—there is a passage going into the bar, and I saw Gregorio there; I saw nothing in his hand—he said, "You want six Italians; I will have six English, "and then he gave him a
<hi rend="italic">punch</hi> in the mouth—I afterwards heard that Harrington had been wounded—I was the last Italian who was there—Harrington was removed to the bar-parlour—when I came out he was there—Gregorio had left about a quarter of an hour before that; before I saw him brought into the bar-parlour—I saw the prisoner there that evening, about five or ten minutes past 5—he asked me how I spent ray Christmas; he was in the taproom in the passage where we come to the bar—he was sober—that was the last I saw of him—he said, "I will go and have a dance, and go on home"—I did not see him leave, but I asked, and somebody said he was gone—I saw Gregorio strike Mr. Shaw, and then go into the bagatelle-room, and in two minutes I saw the people rush out, and a
<hi rend="italic">chap</hi> held the door not to let them out—I moved opposite—they opened the door and I saw five or six sticks, fighting, and three or four Italians were there—that was the taproom—I did not see anything going on in the bagatelle-room, only they were going from one door to the other—I saw Gregorio with a knife in his hand; he showed it to Mrs. Shaw, and said, "If you do not go and get my bat from the bagatelle-parlour I will give you one, and afterwards I will give it to your father:" he meant, "I will stab you and stab your father"—he had a knife in his band; I saw the handle of it but not the end—Mrs. Shaw said, "Do not he stupid; I will go and get your hat"—I do not know whether she got it, but I said to Gregorio that the prisoner was looked up, and then he moved out of the room with the knife—directly after that I saw the deceased carried out of the public-house wounded—Gregorio came from the bagatelle-parlour, and I saw nothing more of him—Mr. Wells was there, and he said to me and my wife, "You had better go out"—they sent me out at the side door, and I saw no more.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GLEPARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where were you when Gregorio came from the taproom?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was in the taproom—I did not see who went in—I cannot tell whether Gregorio got into the room or not—it was about half-past 7 in the evening when I last saw the prisoner—I have not seen him since he left me—he left the Golden Anchor about a quarter past 6, and went away—I cannot tell you how he got back into the bagatelle-room.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-25" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-25" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-25" type="surname" value="MAZZNELI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-25" type="given" value="PIETRO"/>PIETRO MAZZNELI</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter</hi>). I was at the Golden Anchor public-house on the evening of 26th December, between 6 and 7 o'clock—I</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300018"/>
<p>saw a man there named Gregorio, who I knew before—he resembles the prisoner very much—I saw him without his hat in the public-house, and saw the landlady, Mrs. Shaw, give him his hat.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you in company with the prisoner that night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was inside the door, but not in his company—I knew him before—I knew several of the Italians, but not all—I have seen the bagatelle-room door open and shut several times, but I cannot distinctly say whether I saw Gregorio go in or not—I saw a number of people rush to the door—I did not see the mistress or anyone knocked down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-26" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-26" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-26" type="surname" value="BERCINI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-26" type="given" value="GOTTARDO"/>GOTTARDO BERCINI</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter.</hi>) I was at the Golden Anchor on the evening of 26th December, when Harrington was wounded—I saw a man named Gregorio there—I knew him well—I have been working six or eight months with him—he resembles the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were the prisoner and Gregorio friends?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not know—I only saw Gregorio alone that night—I did not see the prisoner there at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What time did you see Gregorio?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Between 6 and 7—I heard of Harrington being wounded—I saw a person carried into the parlour, I do not know if it was Harrington—I was in front of the bar—Gregorio was not there at that time—I saw him about ten minutes before the man was carried into the parlour—he was then in front of the bar carrying away his hat—when he came to the front of the bar I could not tell whether he came out of any room, or from the street—the landlady, Mrs. Shaw, cave him his hat, and said to him, "Go away; run away? and about ten minutes afterwards he left the house—I only heard him say to Mrs. Shaw, "Give me my hat"—he was not very much excited then—I did not observe whether he had anything in his hand; I did not see anything—there was an Italian there with him—there were very few persons there at the time Mrs. Shaw gave him his hat—when he asked for it I was not able to see what was going on in the bagatelle-room—I heard nothing said before I saw the man, whoever he was, carried into the parlour.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-27" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-27" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-27" type="surname" value="MONTOA"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-27" type="given" value="GRACHOMO"/>GRACHOMO MONTOA</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter</hi>). I live at 23, Brook-street, Hatton Garden—on 26th December, I was at the Bordessa public-house—it is not five minutes walk from the Golden Anchor—the prisoner was there—a person came in and said something to me—I saw Gregorio at the Bordessa that night—the prisoner left about five minutes after the person spoke to me that person did not make a communication to the prisoner—there was only—the prisoner and Bordessa, not Gregorio—I saw Gregorio after the
<hi rend="italic">row</hi> was over, not exactly inside the Bordessa, but in front of the house, between 7 and a quarter past—he said he had wounded three men—I only met him outside the public-house, and a conversation took place between us—the prisoner was then already in the hands of the police—when the prisoner left the house he was alone, and I went after him as far as the door of the Golden Anchor—when I arrived there, I met him in the hands of a police
<lb/>man, who laid his hand on his head—five minutes after that Gregorio came to the Bordessa public-house—he did not make any sign to me—he said nothing—the statement that he made previously was between Bordessa's house and another house opposite—I have not seen Gregorio since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say the prisoner left the Bor
<lb/>dessa?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I went towards the door of the Golden Anchor, and saw him in the hands of the police, holding his hand to his head—there was about ten minutes between those two times.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-28" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-28" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-28" type="surname" value="PONZINL"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-28" type="given" value="FRANCISCO"/>FRANCISCO PONZINL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter</hi>). On the night of 26th</p>
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<p>December I was in the Golden Anchor, and saw the prisoner enter—he entered very quietly—I did not see him throw anybody on the ground coming in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-29" type="surname" value="BULETI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-29" type="given" value="GRACHOMO"/>GRACHOMO BULETI</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter.</hi>) I was at the Golden Anchor on the evening of 26th December, and saw several Italians in the taproom—I saw the bagatelle-room door—they kept the door shut, and after a moment it was opened from the inside—I then saw several Englishmen come out with sticks in their hands; then I saw a mixture of English and Italians together, fighting—I stopped in the house about ten minutes, and when I left I heard something respecting some one being wounded—I know Gregorio—I met him in Hatton Wall after I left the Golden Anchor—that was about a quarter of an hour after I heard that somebody had been wounded—he had nothing in his hands—I did not see him in the public-house—I knew him before—I worked six months with him—he resembles the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFABD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see the prisoner there that night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-30" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-30" type="surname" value="MARALIZZI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-30" type="given" value="PIETRO"/>PIETRO MARALIZZI</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter.</hi>) I live at 4, Flowery-court, Gray's-inn-lane—on 26th December, between 6 and 7 o'clock, I was at the Golden Anchor—I saw Gregorio there—he asked Mr. Shaw, the landlord, if it was him that would knock down six Italians—he gave Mr. Shaw a blow—there were a lot wishing to get into the bagatelle-room—I do not know whether they did get in the moment they wished to go into the bagatelle-room—I was caught by the collar of my coat by some person, and was dragged out—Gregorio was standing with a knife in his left hand; nobody addressed him—I did not see Mrs. Shaw—I did not hear her say anything to him at any time—I said, "For God's sake, Gregorio, put away that knife"—he said, "Let me alone"—I do not know what became of him after that—there was great confusion towards the bagatelle-room—I did not hear of the man being wounded—I met Gregorio after that in Cross-street, between the pump and the school, and he put his hand on my neck.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-31" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-31" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-31" type="surname" value="LAMBERT"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-31" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH LAMBERT</persName> </hi>. I was at the Golden Anchor on this night—I came there to see a friend—I was in the back parlour when it first commenced I do not know a man named Gregorio—I did not see anybody strike the landlord—there was a great
<hi rend="italic">row</hi> in the bagatelle-room, and confusion—they were quarrelling and fighting—the landlady came in and said that the Italians were in, and three or four of them were using their knives.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">objected to this as hearsay evidence.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that in the case of Lord George Gordon, hearsay evidence was admitted, because it was explanatory of the transaction, and requested the Court to reserve the point for the consideration of the Judges.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">declined to admit the evidence, or to reserve the point.</hi>)—the landlady ran into the bar-parlour—I had one view just as the door was open, and I saw the Italians and the others up towards the fire-place fighting—I mean in the bagatelle-room—there were fourteen or sixteen Italians in the bagatelle-room—I did not hear of anybody being wounded then—I saw the police drag the man out of the bagatelle-room—I had seen fighting going on only just about two minutes before that—the door of the bagatelle-room was only just pushed open, one ran in and another ran out—fighting was going on then—there was a man passed into the bagatelle-room, and I looked through the door at the time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where were you when you got a glance into the bagatelle-room.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In the bar—when you are in the bar you can see the passage between the bagatelle-room and the taproom, you</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300020"/>
<p>can see the entrance—there are two doors to the bagatelle-room, and I got the glance through what they call the bagatelle-room door; through that door which is right opposite the bagatelle-room—I was looking through the door which leads from the bar-parlour into the bagatelle-room—you cannot see that door from the taproom; that is further on—I saw fourteen or fifteen or perhaps sixteen Italians—there were a great many in there together—I called them Italians—I mean people altogether, I do not know how many Italians were there, but a good many ran in directly I entered, and as I entered—no one went in through the door through which I was looking, and I could not see the other door.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say none ran in through the door through which you looked, will you swear you were there that night at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I saw Rebbeck there after he was stabbed—I did not see Mellership or Liddle; I saw a big man; I have been in Court, but have not heard his name called to-day—I saw a lot of fighting up by the fire-place, but cannot tell Who was there, or even whether the big man was there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you been out of Court all day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-32" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-32" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-32" type="surname" value="PEDRAZOLLI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-32" type="given" value="LIBALIO"/>LIBALIO PEDRAZOLLI</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter.</hi>) I live in Princes-street—I was at the Golden Anchor on 26th December, and saw Gregorio there—I saw him give the landlord a blow, immediately after which the landlord left the house and so did Gregorio, who then opened a knife—I did not see him do anything with it, only opening it, but he told me he wound go in and do for the Englishmen—he opened the knife and said, "I will go in and settle all the lot by myself; I will clear them out"—he went in, and I saw him enter the room with the knife open, and there was a scuffle, but I did not see him use the knife—the scuffle was at the door of the bagatelle-room—I could see Gregorio among the English, with the knife open; I then left—I did not hear of a man being wounded.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where were you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Between the corridor and the dancing-room between the dancing-room and the taproom—when I saw the knife open, I went and watched at the door—I could see inside, but could not see what was doing—I was in the middle of the room in which Gregorio took out his knife and said that he would clear out all the English—I said nothing—I was a friend of his—I knew him to speak to him—it was only just at the moment that he was showing the knife that I looked into the room—there is a passage between the bagatelle-room and the taproom, between the two doors—Gregorio went in at one door, and came out at another—when I saw him the last time it was at the entrance of the bagatelle-room door—I am not able to say whether he had ever got into the bagatelle-room—the first time I saw him go in I showed him the knife open, and then I looked in, and saw Gregorio in the midst of the people—I did not see him inside the bagatelle-room, because he came out—I saw him at the entrance—the moment he was entering, the room I left.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see Gregorio with a knife among a number of Englishmen?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, the first time was in the dancing-room; that is at the entrance of the bagatelle-room.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-33" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-33" type="surname" value="CETTI"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-33" type="given" value="DOMINICO"/>DOMINICO CETTI</persName> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">Through an interpreter.</hi>) I live at 40, Hatton-garden—I was at the Bordessa public-house on 26th November; a man named Gregorio came in and gave me a knife—he made a statement to me—I held the knife a little while, and then threw it into the yard of the Bordessa—Gregorio resembles the prisoner much.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-34" type="surname" value="COWLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-34" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS COWLAND</persName> </hi>. I am pot-boy at the Bordessa—on 27th December, I found a knife in the urinal—I gave it up to a woman between 11 and</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300021"/>
<p>12 o'clock—I thought it was her husband's—I opened it, it had been lying in the water all night—I picked it up out of the water—it looked rusty, but I did not think of this affair—she said that it was her husband's, and I gave it to her in the morning—I assisted Inspector Potter to get it again—(
<hi rend="italic">Two knives produced by Inspector Potter.</hi>)—this is not the knife, nor is this—it is like this only the spring is broken.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">T. A. POTTER</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). This is the one I received from the witness.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-35" type="surname" value="COWLAND"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-35" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS COWLAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). The knife I found and gave to Inspector Potter, was looser than this.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you really mean that this is not the knife you gave to Inspector Potter?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> This is not the knife—I do not know whether Fawell the constable was present when it was handed—I may know if I see him, there were five or six of them there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the knife like that?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Just like it—I kept it in my pocket about two hours without looking at it; it was exactly like this but the knife was looser than this.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-36" type="surname" value="AYTON"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-36" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE AYTON</persName> </hi>. I live at 27, Charles-street, Hatton-garden—on the night of 26th December, there was a disturbance in the tap-room, after which young Rebbeck came into the bagatelle-room, where I was; from the taproom—he pulled his trousers up, and the blood was all pouring down his legs—he showed it to me, and said it was nothing only a cut on the knee; directly after that he got out at a window at the back, and got some sticks which were broken up, and laid on the bagatelle-board—during that time there was a disturbance again, and fighting between the doorways and in the little passage—I cannot say who by, because there were a great many of them, English as well as other parties—there was no fighting in the bagatelle-room—I saw Harrington wounded by the door, and saw Seraphim there—the door was pushed open, Mrs. King was struck on the mouth, and the prisoner came in with another behind him, but he was stopped by a man they call John, who used to play the organ there—all I saw the prisoner do was to give a back-handed blow—there was nothing in his hand; I will swear that—he was knocked down by a young man they call Painter, struck over the head with a stick, and Harrington fell from the blow—Painter struck the prisoner on the head and knocked him on top of Harrington—a man named King laid hold of the prisoner by the collar, and held him down till two policemen came—I did not hear of Harrington being wounded—no
<lb/>body knew that he was wounded but when the prisoner was taken off of Har
<lb/>rington they took the prisoner away, and me and Mr. King lifted Harring
<lb/>ton up, and put him on a seat behind the door—I went and asked for a drop of water, took it into the bagatelle-room, and bathed his face because we thought he was faint from being knocked down—we did not know that he was wounded—there was no fighting after that—I saw no knife in anybody's hand—I did not see any of the Italians get into the bagatelle-room; they were kept back with the sticks—the man who plays the organ, who came in behind him, is an Italian—he did not get into the room, he was knocked on the head with a stick—I did not see whether he had anything in his hand—I should say that man got as near to Harrington as I am to this gentleman. (
<hi rend="italic">About two yards</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> That man who you call Painter, is Stanley, is it not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think it is.</p>
<p>----
<hi rend="italic">Panzerini, a looking-glass maker, of</hi> 106,
<hi rend="italic">Hatton-garden,—Antelli, a looking-glass maker, of</hi> 48
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> 49,
<hi rend="italic">Hatton-garden,—Charles Gaily, a looking-glass maker,—Cammille, a barometer-maker and looking-glass</hi> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">silverer, and Rotheroni, a looking-glass manufacturer, gave the prisoner a good character.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-218-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-218-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="largeCaps">
<rs id="t18650130-218-punishment-1" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-218-punishment-1" type="punishmentCategory" value="death"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-218-punishment-1" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-218-18650130 t18650130-218-punishment-1"/>DEATH</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1865.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<p>219.
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<interp inst="def1-219-18650130" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN DRING</hi> (52)</persName>, was indicted
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<lb/>ing the warehouse of
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-219-offence-1 t18650130-name-38"/>Edward McMorland</persName>, and stealing 196 shawls, his property.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count, feloniously</hi> receiving the same.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-39" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-39" type="surname" value="GARNHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-39" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GARNHAM</persName> </hi>. I am a draper of 2, Pimlico-walk, Hoxton—on 5th September last, the prisoner came to me—he said he believed I was a buyer of shawls, and he had been recommended to me by Mr. Wilson of Barbican, and could I buy them—I asked how many he had—he said he had 200—I asked him what price he wanted for them—he said he would take 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a piece for them—I said they would not do for me at that price, and I offered him is at first—I afterwards agreed to give him is 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he was to bring them in the next day—he did so, and when counted there were 196—I bought them at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a-piece; they came to 41
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I asked him for a receipt—he asked me for a bit of paper, he said he had not a bill-head with him—I gave him a bit of note-paper, and he made out this receipt—(
<hi rend="italic">Read</hi>: "Bought of Mr. F. Palmer, 196 shawls at is. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 41
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., signed, Frede
<lb/>rick Palmer.")—I sold some of them afterwards to Messrs. Woof and Farish, drapers, of Shoreditch, 193, I think, at 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each—in the end I was given into custody—I undertook to find the man, and found the prisoner—we were a fortnight about finding him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you keep a shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I have kept it six years, continuously—I had never seen the prisoner before 5th September—I know Mr. Wilson of Barbican—he is a draper and milliner—I travel round town and serve him with goods—the prisoner brought samples on 5th Sep
<lb/>tember—I can't swear how many—I know he said there was one of each sort, and there were different coloured borders—I can't say exactly how many different sorts there were—the interview on 5th September lasted about a quarter of an hour; it took place in my shop—I agreed as to the price that day—I keep a young man to look after my pony and go out with me—I keep none to serve in the shop; my wife serves in the shop—I did not want the shawls to sell in my own shop—when the prisoner brought the shawls there was another person with him—I dare say the interview that day lasted three-quarters of an hour—I gave that man a penny to go and buy the receipt stamp—I had never seen that man before—I never went to the New Cut about this—I never went out of my shop till I first saw the goods—I never went with Wilson over the water about these shawls—I never saw Wilson at all about these shawls, not till three days after I had bought them; I then told him I was much obliged to him for sending the party to me with the shawls, and I had bought them—they laid on my counter for two days—I have a friend a traveller, who travels round town, and he took them to all the City houses to try to sell them for me—I sold them "to a person in Shoreditch for 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each—I have got a larger profit for things than that—I did not decidedly understand the goods; I am not a shawl</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300023"/>
<p>buyer—I buy anything—I have been in my shop six years, and out of that six years sixteen months as a draper—I had no knowledge of the drapery trade before I went into that shop—I never had any trouble about any transaction of this sort before—I was never a witness before—I know Robert Anderson—I buy anything in my line—I generally buy them in the City, or else I go about looking after job lots—sometimes I have them brought to my place, but I thoroughly know who I buy them of it was Anderson who came with the prisoner when he brought the goods; that was the man I gave the penny to for the receipt-stamp—I had never seen Anderson before—I afterwards bought a quantity more shawls of Anderson; that was on 15th September—I bought ninety-three of him then—I gave 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each for them—I have not got the receipt he gave me; I had a trouble to find this one—when the police came to my place my receipts and invoices were all turned over and hauled about—I have never seen Anderson since 15th September—I have been about to find him and made all the inquiries I could—they were both present when I paid the 41
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I won't swear who took the money; I put the money down and saw the receipt signed—it was signed by the prisoner and given to me—he wrote it all out—not all at the same time; there was an interval of about seven minutes between the writing out of the invoice and the putting of the stamp on—the stamp was put on wet and was signed wet—there was only one inkstand on the counter—I believe it was written with the same pen; there were two pens—I won't swear that he wrote it with the same pen, because the pen was dropped—I went to the prisoner's house in Oxford-terrace, Clapham-road with the officers and another person, who I be
<lb/>lieve calls himself the lawyer's clerk; I never saw him before—I did not go over to the New Cut, nor did I see any of those shawls there—the shawls were brought in a cart—there was a boy besides Anderson—Anderson and the boy brought the things into my shop; the prisoner stood inside—to the best of my belief the prisoner took the money—he was acting as the master and the other seemed to be acting as man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-40" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-40" type="surname" value="GARNHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-40" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE"/>CHARLOTTE GARNHAM</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—I recollect the sale of the shawls—I went up-stairs and brought down the money—I brought down 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd—I can't exactly say how much more—the prisoner took up the money—he gave the name of Palmer—the prisoner called on several occasions afterwards—Mr. Garnham was not then at home.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were you not in the parlour?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was some part of the time; not the whole time—my husband went out to look at the shawls—he was away about twenty minutes—that was on the first occasion—I believe they went to 88, Murray-street—I only know by what they said—the prisoner brought the samples into the shop on the 5th and on the 6th my husband went to Murray-street to look at the lot—I know that from what they said—the shawls were brought in twenty minutes afterwards—I was in the shop, all the time I think, until the money was paid—I then went into the parlour—I was in and out—I saw the money paid and the receipt signed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-41" type="surname" value="LEGG"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-41" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE LEGG</persName> </hi>. I went with Hann and Garnham to 45, Oxford-terrace, Clapham-road—I there saw the prisoner—I addressed him by the name of Palmer—he said, "My name is not Palmer"—I said, "I know that, your name is Dring"—I told him that I was a police-officer, and that I had come about some shawls that he had sold to Garnham on 6th September—he said he had never sold him any, and never had any in his possession—I then said to Garnham, "Is that the man that sold you the shawls?"—he said, "Yes"—at that time I let Hann, another officer, in at the front door, who put</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300024"/>
<p>some questions to him which I did not hear—I searched the place and took the prisoner to the station—next day in going to the police-court in a cab, with the shawls, the prisoner said he never stole those shawls, but he knew them that did—he said he did not carry the shawls into Gornham's shop; the other man did.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What time of day was it that you went to Oxford-terrace?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I went there between 7 and 8 o'clock—I saw a man acting as his servant, bring a horse and chaise to the door, and the prisoner and another man go away—I waited there till he returned in the afternoon—I do not know Anderson—I have been in search of him—the prisoner never said to me, "Why don't you take Anderson into custody, he was the man who went by the name of Palmer?"—I did not hear what he said to Hana—there was only the prisoner and me inside the cab—Hann was outside—I searched the Oxford-terrace house—I did not find anything at all relating to this burglary—that was on the 14th December—I found a quantity of bills there like this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—a lawyer's clerk went with me, at least he came there—I had been in communication with him a day or two or it might be two or three days.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> From what you know of the prisoner, was he a dealer in lubricating machines?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-42" type="surname" value="HANN"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-42" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HANN</persName> </hi>. I accompanied Legg to 45, Oxford-terrace—I remained outside, and was afterwards admitted—after Legg had put some questions to the prisoner, I placed Garnham in front of him, and asked the prisoner if he knew that man—he said, "No, I do not"—I then took Garnham in front of the window, and took his hat off and said, "Now do you know the man?"—he said, "No; I do not"—I said, "Am I to take your answer that you never Bold this man any shawls, and that you know nothing about them"—he said, "Yes; I do not"—I then asked him how long he had left Murray-street—he said he never lived at Murray-street—he was then taken into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> The first time you mentioned Murray-street, I believe you gave no particular locality?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I did; I said Murray-street, Hoxton—Garnham had been taken into custody, and was out on bail at that time—Legg told the prisoner that he was come respecting some shawls that he had sold to Garnham—it was mentioned where Garnham lived, No. 2, Pimlico-walk, Hoxton; I think I named it myself; I know it was ment
<lb/>ioned—this took place in the kitchen—it was rather dark, but quite light enough to recognize any one.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-43" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-43" type="surname" value="TERRY"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-43" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH TERRY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Robert Terry, a solicitor's clerk, 88, Murray-street, New North-road—the prisoner came to lodge at my house on 25th August last—he stayed till 21st September—he took the front parlour in the name of Palmer, at 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—he brought a woman with him, and several others; everybody slept in the same room, women and men too—mine is a lodging-house—the prisoner occupied that room, and other people with him—my husband gave him notice to leave.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Who let the room to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I let the room to him—there was another man with him at that time; the other man gave no name at all then—he afterwards gave my husband the name of Dring—I was not pre
<lb/>sent then—I could not tell you how many men and women came; from two to three slept there—ray husband is clerk to Reighley and Gitching, of 7, Ironmonger-lane; he has been there over seven years—the woman supposed to be the prisoner's wife paid me the rent; a tall woman—there were severs other women in and out—the prisoner spoke of her as his wife.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> By what name did you address the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Palmer, and be answered me by that name.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-44" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-44" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-44" type="surname" value="ADDINGHAM"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-44" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS ADDINGHAM</persName> </hi>. I reside at Gretton-place, Victoria-park, and am clerk to Mr. Brntton, Guildhall-chambers, Basinghall-street, an attorney—I have known the prisoner about eight or ten years, I should think—I have known him by several names, Dring, Palmer, and various other names; they take one another's names—I am acquainted with his handwriting—I should say this receipt is all in the prisoner's handwriting, but written at different times; the body at one time, and the signature "Frederick Palmer" at another.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe you have had a great many masters during your time, have you not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not more than three or four during the whole of my life—I have sometimes been engaged in prosecutions' at this Court and others—I might have had my expenses disallowed—I have been in Whitecross-street for debt—Hann, the detective, first spoke to me about this; that was the day before the prisoner was taken—he asked me if I knew a man named Dring—I have never gone by any other name—I have never gone by the name of Spencer—I was in a Mr. Spencer's employment, in Coleman-street—I have never been a witness before—I never spoke to Hann about this case before that morning—he asked me if I knew the man, and if I knew where he was—I said, "No, but I could soon find out, "and I did—I was told by one of his own lot.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you concerned in this prosecution?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-45" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-45" type="surname" value="WOOF"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-45" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WOOF</persName> </hi>. I am a draper, in partnership with Mr. Farish, in Shore
<lb/>ditch—I bought 193 shawls of Mr. Garnham, at 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each, which came to 55
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and most of these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are the shawls I bought—I could not swear to all of them—I afterwards bought 89 more shawls of him—I sold some of the 193 to Mr. Robert Farish; I could not tell how many—I sold him a lot of shawls besides these—some of the 193 were sold to him—I bought the 193 shawls independently of any other stock from Mr. I Garnham, and gave him 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each for each of the shawls.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How many of the 193 have you got there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I don't know how many; the police took 104 from my shop on 2d December that 104 did not include any of the 89; the difference between the 104 and 193 I had sold to Mr. Farish and other customers—I consider I gave a fair price for those shawls—I have been in the trade twenty-two years—they are a class of goods that would pass under the name of "Clearance of summer goods."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You know now, do you not, that these shawls cost 24
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. each?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have heard so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Would that be a fair selling price for them retail?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I sold them for 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., those I gave 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Would you consider 24
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. cost price; a fair price daring the season for them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I don't know; I should think not—I should think there is no real value for articles of that kind.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-46" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-46" type="surname" value="PASCALL"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-46" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD PASCALL</persName> </hi>. I am buyer in the shawl-department of Messrs, M'Morland and Co., of St. Paul's-churchyard—I have examined the shawls that are produced; they are the property of M'Morland and Co.—I ordered them myself—I saw them safe on the date of the burglary—the bulk of them were made to my order—24
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was the cost price of a great portion of these shawls—some of them are Llama trimmed with silk borders, some all silk, and some silk and wool, with work on them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When did you purchase them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Part of them</p>
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<p>were purchased about a year previously, the greater portion—they were not all bought of the same manufacturer—I saw them on 21st June, because we were taking stock of them—they were all prepared for stock-taking, all put into boxes and marked, and the following morning they were all gone, and in disorder—M'Morland's is not a very large concern—I have the super
<lb/>vision of the stock—I also make sales to retail houses—I was personally en
<lb/>gaged on that day in taking stock—the greater bulk of the shawls were pur
<lb/>chased a year previously—the other part were purchased during the spring season—I don't require the invoices to tell the prices, my memory is sufficient without that—I carry in my head the price of everything I look at; there are some tickets on these shawls now which were placed on them the day I took stock of them, and I can swear to them as in the writing of one of the young men, named French—I have a corresponding mark in my pocket—all of them were not marked.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-47" type="surname" value="WILKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-47" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILKINS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 313). I was on duty in St. Paul's—churchyard on the morning of 22d June—at ten minutes after 6 I saw Messrs. M'Morland's door on the jar; the bar and padlock had been broken off, and the inside of the door cut—I pushed the door open and went in—I found no one on the premises—on searching I found these two small crow-bars, and this knife and string, which is used for the purpose of inserting this string between the sash of the window; the string gets hold of the fas
<lb/>tening, and the catch is pulled back, and then the window can be opened.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-219-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on the 2d Count.</hi> </rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">He also</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to having been before convicted at Westminster in April, 1852, sentence ten years' penal servitude.**—
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<p>220.
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<interp inst="def1-220-18650130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-220-18650130" type="age" value="19"/>
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<interp inst="def1-220-18650130" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES HANDS</hi> (19)</persName>
<rs id="t18650130-220-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-220-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-220-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing 2 boxes and 40lbs. weight of tea, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-220-offence-1 t18650130-name-49"/>Thomas White</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-50" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-50" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am a wholesale tea-dealer, in Railway-place, Fenchurch-street—I have a partner—the two chests of tea (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are my property—they were delivered from our warehouse on 26th January, and put into a cart to go to Epping.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-51" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-51" type="surname" value="HIGGINS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-51" type="given" value="DAVID THOMAS"/>DAVID THOMAS HIGGINS</persName> </hi>. I am carman to Messrs. Tatham, of Gould-square, carriers—on the morning of 26th January I took up twelve packages from Mr. White's, of Railway-place—I took them to my master's, in Gould-square—when I got home I missed two boxes; I had taken those two up from Mr. White's—I did not see them again till they were at the police-station—these are the chests.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-52" type="surname" value="CRANE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-52" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES CRANE</persName> </hi>. I am carman to Messrs. Tindal a Jacobson—on 26th January I saw the last witness driving a cart in Mark-lane, and saw two persons following the cart; the prisoner was one of them—my suspicion were aroused—I went with my van into the yard in Billiter-street, remained there about ten minutes, and when I came out I saw the prisoner coming along with these two chests on his back—I followed him a little way, stopped him, and asked him where he was going with them—he could not give me any answer—the other one then came up, but when I called for assistance he ran away—the prisoner stated that the man was giving him sixpence to carry them to Houndsditch—I gave him into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was going along Fenchurch-street, and a man stopped me and asked me if I would carry these down to the Minories, Houndsditch. He said he would give me 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. when I got there, and then take them of me. I said I would. This man stopped me. The man went to the other side of the road, and when this man stopped me he crossed the</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300027"/>
<p>road, and then ran away. I did not know where the tea came from. I am innocent of it. I get my living in the City, by minding things, and carry
<lb/>ing things for gentlemen.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-220-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-220-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. **—
<hi rend="italic">George Ager proved that the prisoner had been five times in Holloway Prison in the name of
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-53" type="surname" value="CLARKS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-53" type="given" value="na"/>Clarks</persName> and
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-54" type="surname" value="SAVILLE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-54" type="given" value="na"/>Saville</persName>.—
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<interp inst="t18650130-220-punishment-3" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-220-punishment-3" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-220-18650130 t18650130-220-punishment-3"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18650130-221" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18650130"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-221" type="date" value="18650130"/>
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<p>221.
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<interp inst="def1-221-18650130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-221-18650130" type="age" value="19"/>
<interp inst="def1-221-18650130" type="surname" value="IRONS"/>
<interp inst="def1-221-18650130" type="given" value="THOMAS GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS GEORGE IRONS</hi> (19)</persName>
<rs id="t18650130-221-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-221-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-221-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing a watch, Value 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the property of
<persName id="t18650130-name-56" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-56" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-56" type="surname" value="COLLINS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-56" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-221-offence-1 t18650130-name-56"/>John Collins</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-57" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-57" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-57" type="surname" value="COLLINS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-57" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN COLLINS</persName> </hi>, I am a beershop-keeper, of 4, Portpool-lane—on 12th January, about 3 in the afternoon, I was in Long-lane—I stopped to look at a crowd—I did not see the prisoner till I caught him taking my watch out of my pocket; as I was coming out of the crowd he put his hand in my pocket and took my watch—I am sure he is the person—I caught hold of him by the collar, and while I was saving the chain he took the watch from the chain—I saw him do that—he up with his fist as if to hit me—I turned round to call a young man, who was with me, and when he came up the watch was gone—I called a constable, and gave the prisoner into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-58" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-58" type="surname" value="DALEY"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-58" type="given" value="MICHAEL"/>MICHAEL DALEY</persName> </hi>. I am a tailor—I was with the prosecutor—I saw the pri
<lb/>soner stand behind the prosecutor, and as he was turning out from the crowd he put his hand into his waistcoat-pocket and drew out his watch—I imme
<lb/>diately made a rush towards him, but before I could lay my hand upon him he up with his hand to strike Collins—I said, "It is bad enough to take the watch"—he said, "It is the man that has gone in there has got the watch"—I said, "Nevertheless, you are the party that took it, and I will not let my hands off you till I give you in charge to a policeman."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> They were both in liquor.
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>, Not a bit of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-59" type="surname" value="KEOGH"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-59" type="given" value="DANIEL"/>DANIEL M KEOGH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 220). The prisoner was given into my custody by the witnesses—they were both sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18650130-221-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-221-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-221-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.*—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18650130-221-punishment-4" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-221-punishment-4" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-221-18650130 t18650130-221-punishment-4"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18650130-222" type="date" value="18650130"/>
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<p>222.
<persName id="def1-222-18650130" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-222-18650130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-222-18650130" type="age" value="20"/>
<interp inst="def1-222-18650130" type="surname" value="PALMER"/>
<interp inst="def1-222-18650130" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BENJAMIN PALMER</hi> (20)</persName>
<rs id="t18650130-222-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-222-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-222-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Robbery with others on
<persName id="t18650130-name-61" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-61" type="surname" value="CARLIN"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-61" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-222-offence-1 t18650130-name-61"/>Matthew Carlin</persName>, and stealing 1 coat, 1 handkerchief, and 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money, his property.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEMP</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-62" type="surname" value="CARLIN"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-62" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW CARLIN</persName> </hi>. I live at East Ham—on the evening of 26th December, about 5 o'clock, I was in Spitalfields—I saw the prisoner there—I had seen him several times before—I asked if he knew a friend of mine of the name of James Walters—he said he did perfectly well, and if I would go with him he would show me where ho lived—we went together to a public-house—we did not stay there above six or seven minutes—we had a pint of ale, and left the public-house together—the prisoner was then joined by two men and a woman—they turned back with the prisoner and me, and when we got into the middle of Wood-street, the prisoner assisted the others to knock me down—they pulled my handkerchief and jacket off, and turned my pocket out, and took out three half-crowns and 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I have not seen them since—I have no doubt at all about the prisoner being the man—I went to the police-station the same night—I afterwards saw the prisoner sitting outside a public-house—I don't know the name of it—I went over and spoke to him, and the policeman was alongside of me—I said, "Do you recollect seeing me last night?"—he directly jumped up and thought to make his escape, but I caught hold of him, and he was taken into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did not you first pass by me and then come back again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I did go by, but I did not see you then—when I came back, I saw you sitting on the window-cill—I have seen you several times; the first</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300028"/>
<p>time might be four years ago, or more—I had had a little drop to drink, but knew perfectly well what I was about—it was Boxing-night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where had you been?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not anywhere—I had come straight up the road—I had had a share of two pots of beer and a pint besides, no spirits—I was not at all tipsy—(
<hi rend="italic">looking at his deposition</hi>)—this is my signature—I might say I was not quite sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-63" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-63" type="surname" value="LAW"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-63" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LAW</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, H</hi> 205). On 27th December, the prosecutor gave me a* description of a man by whom he had been robbed—I went into Wentworth-street, and saw some persons standing outside a public-house—the prisoner was among them—I told the prosecutor to go over, and if the man was among them to take hold of him—he went over, and directly took hold of the prisoner, and said, "This is the man"—I crossed the road, and took him—I told him the charge—he said, "I was not out of my father's house yesterday from about 2 in the afternoon till about 11 or half-past 11 at night."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I am as innocent as a child—I have witnesses to prove it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-64" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-64" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-64" type="surname" value="NEWTON"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-64" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH NEWTON</persName> </hi>. I am single, and live at 28, George-yard—I only know the prisoner by seeing him on Boxing-day, in Mrs. Campbell's house—there were several of the neighbours there; Mr. and Mrs. Campbell, the two daughters, and I and the prisoner—we went in there about 2 and came out about 11 at night—they were singing and drinking, and enjoying them
<lb/>selves round the fire—I am sure the prisoner was there all that time—I was there all the time, except when Elizabeth Campbell and I went out for beer—the first beer we went out for was at half-past 2—that would not take us above two or three minutes—we went out again about 3 or half-past—every time we came back the prisoner was still there, sitting by the side of Mrs. Campbell.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEMP</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What day of the week was this?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was Boxing-day, Monday, I think; I won't be certain—Mr. and Mrs. Baggs were there—I think there were two men and their wives, and two women; seven or eight altogether—I was examined at the Police-court, I think the day after—I am no relation of the prisoner's—I had not known him before; not to have anything to say to him, only just seeing him—I don't live at that house; I have my victuals there, but don't sleep there—the prisoner lives opposite Mrs. Campbell's—I am twenty-one years of age—Mrs. Campbell is not here; she is ill in bed—Mrs. Baggs is not here; they were not able to come—the prisoner's father and mother were not there; his intended father-in-law, Mr. Campbell, was; the prisoner is court
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How many times did you go out for beer?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I could not tell you, it was so many—I drank some as well as the rest—there was Mr. and Mrs. Baggs, Mrs. Gibbons, Mrs. Porter, me, and my mother and father, and Sarah Newton—the prisoner was there all the time—he was sitting by the side of my mother.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1865.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>230.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE STEVENS</hi> (38)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18650130-230-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIGDE</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">GOUGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-85" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-85" type="surname" value="WHITTLESEY"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-85" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH WHITTLESEY</persName> </hi>. I keep a beer-shop—on Friday, 13th January, about half-past 10 o'clock, the prisoner came for a glass of sixpenny ale, which came to 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a florin, and I gave him the change—put the florin by itself on the top of a cigar-box—he drank the beer, and left—I then found that the florin was bad, and laid it on some glasses on a shelf—next evening he came again for a glass of ale—I served him, and recognised him as soon as he came in—he offered me this bad shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I bit it, and walked round and closed the door—I told him he had given me a bad shilling, and he had given me a bad florin the night previous, and I should lock him up—he said that he did not give me the florin; he was not in London that night—I gave him in charge, with the shilling and florin—he then paid me one penny for the ale.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> What reason had you to go to the till with the shilling I gave you before you went round to the door?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not open the till at all—I did not go to three men who were in the tap-room; but one of them said, "Let the man go."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How many men were in the shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> They were in the tap-room at the back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-86" type="surname" value="RAWLINSON"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-86" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM RAWLINSON</persName> </hi>. I was in the beer-shop, and saw the prisoner come in—he asked for a glass of ale—I did not see him pay for it, but I am certain he is the person.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> Why?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I remember your features.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-87" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-87" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-87" type="surname" value="NEWELL"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-87" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD NEWELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, H</hi> 46). On 14th January, the prisoner was given into my custody, with these coins—I searched him, and found a halfpenny in his pocket.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Had not I a chance of getting away if I was guilty?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I should not have let you.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-88" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-88" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-88" type="surname" value="WEUSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-88" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEUSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint—this florin and shilling are bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was not aware that the shilling was bad, and did not know that I had another halfpenny. She said that I bad given her a florin the night before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18650130-230-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-230-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-230-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a previous conviction of a like offence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-89" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-89" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-89" type="surname" value="KEMP"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-89" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD KEMP</persName> </hi>. I am warder of Wandsworth House of Correction—I produce a certificate (
<hi rend="italic">Read:
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-90" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-90" type="surname" value="LEPINE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-90" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>George Lepine</persName> convicted at this Court of uttering counterfeit coin; Confined One Year .</hi>)—I was present—the prisoner is the man—I saw him every dayduring his imprisonment.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18650130-230-punishment-14" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-230-18650130 t18650130-230-punishment-14"/>Five Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>231.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANN RITCHIE</hi> (18)</persName> and
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<interp inst="def2-231-18650130" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARGARET LINGWOOD</hi> (17)</persName>
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<lb/>lawfully uttering a medal resembling a sovereign, but being of less value, with intent to defraud.
<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>, charging it as a piece of mixed metal resembling a sovereign in size;
<hi rend="italic">Third Count</hi>, a coin resembling a sovereign in size, but being of less value.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. COLERIDGE</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">GOUGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-93" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-93" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-93" type="surname" value="BURN"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-93" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BURN</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Woodman, White-street, Bethnal-green—on 12th January, about half-past 10 at night, the prisoner Ritchie came in—she placed this coin on the counter, head upwards, and said, "If you please, can you give me change"—I went to the till to get it, but found it was rather light—I said, "What is this?"—she said, "A sovereign"—I put my glasses on to look at it, and said, "It is not a sovereign; it is not worth twopence"—I asked her where she got it—she said, "A young man outside gave it to me to get change"—I said, "You had better fetch him in and let us see who he is"—she said, "Oh, you must give it me back, and let me show it to him"—I said, "No, I shall not give it you back at all"—she went out, and returned in about two minutes with Lingwood—she said, "I have come for my sovereign; you are not going to keep it;" and Lingwood said, "You had better give it up, or I will soon fetch some one who will knock it out of you"—I said, "You shall not go till I know who you are, and where you come from"—Ritchie said, "Come on"—Lingwood said, "I am not going.; I should like to go without my sovereign, "meaning that she should not like—I sent for a policeman; and as I followed the prisouers, I met my potman with a policeman, and gave them in charge with the medal—we went back, and just as we got to my door, Lingwood moved her hands, and I heard something jink on the pavement—I saw the potman stoop and pick up another piece and hand it to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-94" type="surname" value="SWALLOW"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-94" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SWALLOW</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, H</hi> 170). On 12th January, Mr. Burn gave the prisoners into my custody, with this medal—I saw Lingwood moving—I put my hand to her pocket—she had some fish and bread there, and I could not get my hand in—I saw her move her hand, and heard something drop—I afterwards saw this medal on the pavement—the potman picked it up and gave it to me—they said that they received it of a woman named Ford, in part payment of wages—I asked where Mrs. Ford lived—she said, "I do not know, she has moved away; I met her on Tuesday"—Ritchie said that they received a sovereign each—I searched them, and found a purse, a sixpence, and threepence in copper on Lingwood; and this sugar-crusher and a small bottle on Ritchie.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-95" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-95" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-95" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-95" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are two brass medals; they represent on one side the head of the Queen—they are not the same colour as a sovereign, but quite near enough to deceive—they are the same size as a sovereign.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is the obverse the head of the Queen?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; the reverse is an equestrian figure of the King of Hanover riding over what appears to be an hydra—it has several heads, and a dragon-shaped tail—it is like a dragon, except that there are many heads—above it is, "To Hanover"—the edges are like a sovereign, and the legend on the obverse is, "H.M.G.M. Queen Victoria"—the date is in the ordinary place, but on the reverse side; on all the Queen's current sovereigns, it is on the obverse—the reverse does Dot resemble a sovereign, because the composition is different altogether; the King is riding with a crown on his head, which is quite different from St. George—this is neither St. George or a dragon—the only thing like a sovereign is the Queen's bead and a knerled edge but there is a considerable likeness in colour—on the coins of George IV., 1821, the date is on the re
<lb/>verse side, and in George III. you will find it under the head again.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ritchie's Defence.</hi> I did not know it was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Lingwood's Defence</hi> I am innocent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The Jury found that the coin resembled a sovereign in me and colour, but not in figure</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THE COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">directed a verdict of</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-231-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-231-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="directed"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>232.
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<interp inst="def1-232-18650130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-232-18650130" type="age" value="41"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL VENABLES</hi> (41)</persName>, was indicted
<rs id="t18650130-232-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-232-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-232-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/>for embezzlement.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LE BRETON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-97" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-97" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-97" type="surname" value="PACKER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-97" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS PACKER</persName> </hi>. I live at Child's-hill, Hendon, and am a builder—I purchased 700 slates of the prisoner at the Llangollen Company's wharf, South-wharf, Paddington—I paid him 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for them before they were sent home—he gave me this receipt, signed Samuel Venables (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-98" type="surname" value="COOKE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-98" type="given" value="ALLINGTON"/>ALLINGTON COOKE</persName> </hi>. I am an accountant and book-keeper, and live at Stratford—I have been employed by the Llangollen Slate Company, to go through their accounts—I produce the prisoner's cash-book; I have seen him write, and am well acquainted with his writing—I find in it no entry of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., or of any money received of Mr. Packer about 20th or 21st July—here are entries in the prisoner's writing for about a year before, and for some time after—the prisoner was, to my knowledge, acting as servant to the Company at that wharf—I find no entry of 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or any other sum, on 11th August, 1863, in the name of Richard Sharpe—there is no such sum or name—I do not find the name of Huntley King, 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., in August—this is the cash-book of the Company.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you been the accountant to the Company?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; employed specially on this matter—I know nothing of the Company, except what I have been told.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-99" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-99" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-99" type="surname" value="NINNIS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-99" type="given" value="PAUL"/>PAUL NINNIS</persName> </hi>. I am cashier and manager for John Taylor and Sons, mining engineers and managers for the Llangollen Slate Mining Company—I know the prisoner; he was employed by the Company, and had 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a-year—he was appointed by the Managers, not by the Directors—they, appoint all the servants of the Company.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are not the appointments reduced to writing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; it is not the practice—the Managers, John Taylor and Sons, appoint all the servants of the Company—they appointed the prisoner, and paid his salary—it was his duty to bring all money he received to the central office, and pay it in, and when he wanted money he came to me—he never paid me this 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he was paid out of the funds of the Company—the terms were arranged with the Managers—I know that the terms were 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a-year of my own personal knowledge, and also from the prisoner himself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-100" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-100" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-100" type="surname" value="BRETON"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-100" type="given" value="LE"/>MR. LE BRETON</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are the Managers, John and Richard Taylor?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> </p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300032"/>
<p>Yes; they have the privilege of appointing all the officers of the Company—the prisoner has brought me money on several occasions as their servant—the salary was paid to the prisoner, and charged to the Company.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-101" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-101" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-101" type="surname" value="VENABLES"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-101" type="given" value="WILLIAM VERNON"/>WILLIAM VERNON VENABLES</persName> </hi>. I am secretary to the Llangollen Slate Mining Company Limited—the Managers are John Taylor and Sons; they appoint the servants; they appointed the prisoner—his salary was 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a-year, and an allowance for a country residence—I was not present when he was engaged—he brought me money on account of the Company on various occasions—I did not receive from him in July, 1863, 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., nor 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on 11th August, nor 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from Mr. King in August.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where ought he to have paid it to you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At the head office, 6, King's-place, Southwark-bridge—he might also have paid it to the book-keeper, and there are clerks—they have not each authority to receive the money—besides paying money to me, he paid money weekly into Barnett's Bank—his instructions were to pay money over as soon as possible after the receipt—that is not within my personal knowledge—the accounts of the Company were audited once a year, but the last time was in 1862—from 1862 to Christmas, 1864, there has been no auditing—auditors have been appointed; they were William Peltarger Boyle and William Henderson.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LE BRETON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you authorized to receive money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and so was Mr. Ninnis.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-102" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-102" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am a mining engineer and Manager; my offices are at Queen-street, Southwark—my firm are Managers of the Llangollen Slate Company under a deed; my father and myself have always been managing partners—we appointed the prisoner to act for us at this wharf, at a salary of 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which was afterwards raised to 180
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I forget which, with an allowance for his rent, and afterwards a second house, which was taken for him at Hanwell for the health of his family—Mr. Ninnis has been our cashier forty years, and Mr. Venables many years, and it was at his instigation that I employed his brother—he came from Liverpool with a good character—he was employed as clerk, and I think I may call it Manager of the wharf at Paddington—he had the management of the business there—his business was to keep an accurate account; to hand over to our office all moneys he received; to account for it on sheets, of which he has a copy, and his brother, the Secretary, had the control—it was his duty to enter all receipts in the cash-book—we represent the Company for the purpose of engaging clerks; that is a portion of our duty as stated in the deed—I am a partner in the Company—the prisoner was appointed several years ago.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he keep a day-book and ledger?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but he has always been allowed a clerk—it was not the clerk's business to write in the cash-book—there is not a very largo business transacted in London, but quite large enough to cause us to give him the assistance of a clerk, that some one might be present when he was absent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LE BRETON</hi>. Do you know the prisoner's writing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Well, this is his cash-book (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>); these are his entries in July and August, 1863—I see do writing but his.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-103" type="witnessName">
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I had paid a deposit of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to the head foreman, Williams, which made it 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I paid it on the date of this invoice. (
<hi rend="italic">Produced, dated</hi> 11
<hi rend="italic">th August</hi>, 1863.)</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—it is not my business to receive money for the</p>
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<p>Company, so I handed it to the prisoner the same evening—I procured this receipt at the office.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When was your attention first drawn to it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Cooke, the accountant, spoke to me last March or April—I mean that I recollect the fact of my paying the money—I did not take a receipt to discharge myself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it at his own house you gave him the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, adjoining the office—I paid him in the evening, after the clerks left.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on account to the prisoner—this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is signed "S. V." on the stamp in the prisoner's handwriting—the goods were for slate aquariums.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is not the prisoner also a coal-merchant?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not know—I had two tons of coals of him—I was not indebted to him at that time.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of his said masters.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LE BRETON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">offered no evidence.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">The following prisoners</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">to feloniously uttering counter
<lb/>feit coin</hi>:—</p>
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<p>234.
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<lb/>tude.</rs> </hi>
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<p>236.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS SCOTT</hi> (55)</persName>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-236-18650130 t18650130-236-punishment-17"/>Confined Eighteen Months.</rs> </hi>
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<p>237.
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<p>238.
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-238-18650130 t18650130-238-punishment-19"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs> </hi>; and
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<p>239.
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-239-offence-1 t18650130-name-115"/>Charles Henry Griffiths</persName>, his master.—</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1865.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., the property of
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<hi rend="italic">Second Count</hi>, receiving the same.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. METOALFE</hi> and
<hi rend="smallCaps">PATTEDSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<p>
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<p>
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<lb/>park-gardens.</p>
<p>
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<p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-122" type="given" value="PETER"/>PETER BARR</persName> </hi>. I am a partner in the firm of Barr and Sugden—on 4th January, Miss. Hodges was in my debt—I don't think the letter containing this money-order ever reached our place; there is no evidence of it—this is not my signature, or that of our firm, or of any one by our authority—I knew nothing about it till the Post-office authorities communicated with me—on 11th January, I was sent for to the Post-office kept by Mr. Daniel in King-street—I saw the prisoner there—I inquired where he got this order from—he said he got it in the way of business, from a person of the name of Dale—I went to change my coat, and when I came back he was gone.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-123" type="given" value="JULIA"/>JULIA WARREN</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Daniel, who keeps the Post-office in King-street, Covent-garden—on 11th January the prisoner came there and presented this order for payment; it was signed as it is now—I asked the prisoner who sent it—he said it was given to him in payment for some gas-fittings which he had sold—I asked who sent it—he said, "Miss Hodges"—I sent for Mr. Barr—in the meantime Mr. Daniel came in and asked him bow he came possessed of that order—he then said that Mr. Dale gave it to him—Mr. Daniel asked him where Mr. Dale lived—he said in Holborn.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-124" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD DANIEL</persName> </hi> I keep the Post-office in King-street, Covent-garden—on 11th January I went into the office while the prisoner was there with the last witness—this order was handed to me—I asked the prisoner how he got it—he said he got it in the way of business from Mr. Dale, an optician, in Holborn, near Kent's Knife-cleaning Machine shop—I asked what sort of person Mr. Dale was, and he described him as a tall, thin, dark man—I asked him if he was any relation to Mr. Dale, of Cecil-street, an optician, whom I knew—he said he did not believe he was—I then sent for Mr. Barr—I did not know the signature of the firm of Barr and Sugden, but there was an understanding between Mr. Barr and myself that all his orders should be paid through the Union Bank, or be presented by himself—Mr. Barr came and said it was their order—the prisoner was then standing in the shop close by me—I did not question the prisoner further—I requested Mr. Barr to put on his hat and follow him to Mr. Dale's—Mr. Barr was so long about it that I said to the prisoner, "It is very strange to me that this order should be presented here; they are always paid through a banker unless Mr. Barr presents them himself"—upon that he walked out of the shop, saying, "You have got got my address, and there is an end of it"—he bad given his name and address, "Charles White, Red Lion-passage"—he left be
<lb/>fore Mr. Barr returned—he was standing outside the shop, and said, "I shall not wait any longer"—I sent some one to watch him—Smith came in while I was there; I think Smith was present when the prisoner mentioned Dale's name.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was he not waiting some ten minutes after Mr. Barr had left?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He waited some time; I don't know how long—I think he said, "I can wait no longer; you have got my name and address, if you want to see me further"—on Smith's coming in the prisoner said to him, "Mr. Smith, you know who I am"—Mr. Smith replied, "Yes, I have known you for several years as a very respectable man"—Smith and the prisoner went away together—Smith stood outside a great portion of the time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-125" type="given" value="WILLIAM PHILIP"/>WILLIAM PHILIP SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am an accountant, living at 11, Robert-street, Bedford-row—on the morning of 11th January, between 11 and 12 o'clock, I called on the prisoner on business—he asked where I was going—I said to Great Queen-street—he said he was going to King-street, Covent-garden, and would walk with me and talk on the way—he told me that he had got a Post-office order in his pocket—we walked to King-street—he went into Mr. Daniel's, the Post-office, and I saw him pass a paper to the female witness—I did not know what it was—they stood talking there—she had two papers in her hand; whether they were the advice and order I do not know—I stood leaning against the railings—I saw Mr. Barr going in and out—I had an appointment, and after waiting there seven or eight minutes I went in—White asked me if I knew him—I said, "Yes, for several years as a respectable man, a gas-fitter, in Red Lion-passage, "I did not know the number, but it was at the Square end of the passage—he came out, and Mr. Daniel with him, and stood there—I told him I could not wait, and White said, "I can't wait any longer; I have given you my name and address, and that is enough"—we went away walking along through the piazza—going along I asked him what was the meaning of it; did they mean to insinuate that it was a forged order—he said, "Something like it"—I asked him did he know from whom he got it—he said it was in the way of business—I said, "Was it in lieu of a debt?"—he said "Yes"—I said, "Do you know who you had it from I"—he said, "Yes, a man named Dale, an optician, in Holborn—I said to him, "It is rather serious"—I think I said, "Good God! if you know who it is, go and get the man and bring him down and get it rectified"—we walked on to Great Queen-street, where I had an appointment, and I said, "If you can get the man I shall be here for about an hour; call on me, and I will go with you and see it put right"—he replied, "I may or may not"—he then left me, and I went to see the gentle
<lb/>man with whom I bad the appointment, and I was there all day on some accounts—I saw him again after I had been at Bow-street—he called at my house; that was on Thursday, the 12th—he said he had come to ask my advice what to do, and he told my wife that I knew nothing at all about it, no more than she did, that I merely went with him—I said I could not talk with him there, but if he would meet me I would speak to him and tell him what to do—I said in the room, "All I can advise you to do is to disclose the name of the person from whom you had it"—he said he would not tell the name—next morning, Friday, he sent for me to 13, Gloucester-street, Queen-square, Bloomsbury—I still pressed upon him, for his own sake, and for his family's, to disclose the name of the person from whom he bad it—he still seemed "disinclined to do it—I pressed him, but he declined doing it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe you told Mr. Daniel that you had known the prisoner several years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; that is the fact; I have known him about six years—I have known him well, as a respectable man; he has lived in the same house all that time—he is a gas fitter—I believe he has borne the character of an honest and respectable man—I always found him a strictly honourable man.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-126" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BINGHAM</persName> </hi>. I am a police-constable attached to the Post-office—on Thursday, 12th January, in consequence of information, I went to 7, Red Lion-passage—I saw the prisoner there standing at the door—I addressed him, "Mr. White"—he said "Yes"—I then told him I wanted to speak to him respecting a money-order that he had presented for payment at the King-street Post-office the previous day, at the same time I showed him the order now produced—he said, "Yes, I did present it"—I then told him I wished</p>
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<p>him to tell me from whom he received it—he said he bad received it in the way of business, but he should not tell me from whom—I did not then know that he had said he received it from Mr. Dale—I told him he must go to the Post-office and see Mr. Peacock, perhaps he would tell him all about it—he at first refused to go, and wanted to see my warrant, but I afterwards pre
<lb/>vailed upon him, and he went—on arriving at Mr. Peacock's office, the order was again produced, and he was asked where he got it from—he said that he had received it the morning previous, about a quarter-past 8, from a man who came into his shop and purchased some things, amounting to 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and that was in part payment; that the man purchased three gas-pillars, and three gas-burners, he did not know the man, he did not ask his name and address, he did not give any bill, nor enter it in any book, the man took the money-order from his breast coat-pocket outside, and the remainder he paid him in cash which he took from his trousers' pocket—this was said in answer to questions—he described the man as about thirty or forty year old, short and stout; that he wore a brown coat, and had dark brown whiskers—the prisoner was then allowed to go away—he did not tell me during that conversation, or any other, how he knew of the name of Hodges; I believe he was asked; I was there and heard the conversation—I don't think the name Hodges was asked him; he was told that it was posted at Kensington Park-gardens, and the time it was posted, and about the time it should have been delivered—I am not sure whether he was asked about the name of Hodges or not; I don't think the name was mentioned; he did not give any explanation about the name—I did not know of his having previously given the name of Dale until after he was allowed to go—in con
<lb/>sequence of hearing of that and other matters, I afterwards on the same day obtained a warrant for his apprehension—Smith accompanied me to Bow-street—I also called at the prisoner's address, but he had not been home—I called twice the same day, and twice the next day, but could not see him, and I was watching the house and neighbourhood nearly the whole of the time, with another officer—he was subsequently found by another officer—I did not see him from the time he was allowed to go from the Post-office until then—he keeps a gas-fitting shop; I never saw any gas burning there or any light; the place is always in darkness—there is some stock—there are tools and such things in the shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-127" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HAWKES</persName> </hi>. I am a constable attached to the Post-office—on Thursday, 12th January, I went in search of the prisoner—on Saturday, 14th, from information I received, I went to Mr. Cooper's, 13, Gloucester-street, Queen-square; Mr. Cooper opened the door—I asked to see Mr. White, who was in the house—he told me to wait a bit—I followed him up into the back room, first floor, and there I saw the prisoner—I recognised him, having seen him once before—I told him there was a warrant out for his apprehension, charging him with uttering an order for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., he well knowing it to be a forgery—he said, "Very well, I am quite willing to go with you."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-128" type="given" value="EDMUND"/>EDMUND DALE</persName> </hi>. I am a manufacturing optician, of No. 1, Smart's-build
<lb/>ings, Holborn; that is near Kent's knife cleaning place—I know the pri
<lb/>soner—I know nothing whatever about this order; I did not give it to the prisoner in the way of business—I never saw it, or heard of it, till the officer showed it to me—I did not see the prisoner at all on 10th January; he did not come to me—I do not live there, I live in the country—there is no other optician of my name living in Holborn.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Thomas Perry, smith and gas-fitter, Eagle-street, Red Lion-square; William Roach, knife-cleaning machine manufacturer</hi>, 40,
<hi rend="italic">Duke street, Lincoln's-inn-fields; and Frederick Goodman, metal-worker, Yorkshire Grey-yard, Red Lion-square, deposed to the prisoner's good character.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi> </rs>
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<hi rend="italic">on Second Count. Recommended to mercy by the Jury, on account of his good character.—Judgment Respited.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>241.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALFRED CURTIS</hi> (43)</persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BEST</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence</hi>,</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">In this case, it appearing that the alleged perjury occurred after the matter in question had been decided, the Court directed a verdict of</hi> </p>
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<p>242.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN HEROD</hi> (22)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18650130-242-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, Stealing a watch, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-242-offence-1 t18650130-name-131"/>William Dick</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-132" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-132" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DICK</persName> </hi>. I lost a watch on 18th January, on Tower-hill, about half-past 12 at noon—there was a crowd at the west end of Postern-row—I went across to see what it was—the crowd moved a little, and during that time my watch was taken—I looked round and saw the chain drop from the prisoner's hand—I accused him of having my watch—he said he had not got it, and asked me to search him—I saw that he had not got it; I sup
<lb/>posed he had given it to a confederate—I went back and met the witness Nicholls—in consequence of what he said we went after the prisoner—he walked up Goodman's-yard, Minories; he got out of sight there and ran—we pursued him, and caught him at the Black Horse, in Limehouse-street, and I gave him into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-133" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN NICHOLLS</persName> </hi>. I was on Tower-hill on 18th January—I was standing on the right side of Mr. Dick, and saw the prisoner on his left, a little way in front—he was pushing very close to the prosecutor—a minute or two afterwards the prosecutor turned round and accused him of stealing his watch, and at the same moment the prisoner turned round, and I am almost positive passed the watch, for I saw his hand go down to another man—I did not see the watch—there was a person close enough to him to take it—he then made an offer to be searched—Mr. Dick searched him, and of course he had not got it—I went after the man that I believed had it, but could not catch him—I afterwards went with Mr. Dick to the Black Horse.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see the chain drop from his hand?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-134" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BATES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, H</hi> 99). The prisoner was given into my custody—he asked me to search him—I declined doing so till I got him to the station—I searched him there, and only found an old knife on him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-135" type="surname" value="DICK"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-135" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DICK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). I picked up the bit of chain that fell down, and put it in my pocket—I have not got it here—the rest of the chain was attached to my guard round my neck—I am sure I saw it drop from his hand.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-242-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
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<p>243.
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., received as clerk and servant to
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-243-offence-1 t18650130-name-137"/>William White</persName> and another.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-138" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WHITE</persName> </hi>. I carry on business with Mr. Thomas Johnstone as electro-platers at Sheffield—in May, 1863, we established a branch business at London Wall, and placed the prisoner there to superintend it—there was an agreement in writing between us—this is it—(
<hi rend="italic">This was dated</hi> 4
<hi rend="italic">th May</hi>, 1863,
<hi rend="italic">by which the prisoner agreed to become the prosecutor's sole agent in</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">London for two years, terminable by three months' notice on either side, and undertook thereby to account for the tale of all goods, and to pay all moneys due</hi>)—in March, 1864, in consequence of something that happened, I wrote this letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced by Foulger</hi>), to the prisoner for the express purpose of defining his duties—(
<hi rend="italic">This letter requested the prisoner in future to observe certain rules, amongst others to remit cash for goods sold from stock, and to forward a balance-sheet of accounts received by him, on the</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">d of each month</hi>)—I sent that letter to the prisoner in consequence of some irregularities that I objected to—the balance-sheets did not come after that—a little cash was remitted at various, some small amounts—the cash did not come in propor
<lb/>tion to the goods going out—in December, 1864, after haying waited some time I came up to town, and saw the prisoner—I told him that a great many long-standing accounts were out, and I wished them collected, and I produced a statement of those accounts—he said, "I will collect them, and go round to the customers;" which he did, and I with him—he had the list—amongst those customers was Mr. George Treacher, an East India merchant, of Chatham-place, Blackfriars, and Mr. Rawlings, of Bury-street, St. James's—we went to Mr. Treacher, when we got there the prisoner said, "Excuse me for a moment; I will just see if the principal is in, and I will introduce you"—he went in, I remained on the mat outside—he returned in two or three minutes, and said that Mr. Treacher was not in, he would be in the day following—we went the day following (December 22d) and he went in and took my card—he returned in two or three minutes, and said the account was promised on the 29th—it was 71
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. according to the books—he did not say whether he had seen Mr. Treacher or not—he went himself to Mr. Rawlings, and said that Mr. Rawlings had promised the account shortly—it was 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I afterwards received this letter from the prisoner—(
<hi rend="italic">This was dated</hi> 30
<hi rend="italic">th December</hi>, 1864,
<hi rend="italic">stating amongst other things, that Treacher had put him of another week</hi>)—I have never received those sums.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you your books here?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; not the prisoner's books, I have my own books—I know nothing about the books in which he would enter the amounts he received; I want to get them—I have not got them—I saw his books last January or February; I don't know which; not since—I have been in town once or twice since—of course I had a right to look at his books—I have received moneys from the prisoner—I know I have not received this 71
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. from Mr. Treacher, because he has always stated the names of the parties that the money was supposed to come from, and I know he has not stated that name—the accounts I speak of are in his letters—I have not got the letters with me—the books are here in which I enter the amounts received—the letter I have just produced shows that I have not received Treacher's account, in point of fact there was nothing owing by Messrs. Treacher at the time that letter was written—my partner keeps the books at Sheffield—when I came to town, and saw the prisoner at the office, I said, "We must go round and get promises for the accounts owing, "and we went to Treacher's among the rest—I had the whole of the accounts with me—he took them in his hand, and arranged them, which would be the most simple way to go—I said, "If the distances are too far apart, we will hire a cab rather than walk it—he said, "No, we will not take a cab, I will arrange it in nice day's journeys, and we will do it in two or three days;" and amongst his arrangements was this of Treacher's—we had Treacher's account; a balance of 71
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300039"/>
<p>have the prisoner's own memorandum-book here in which he put down the sums himself—it is put down here 54
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. but I could not see his book at the time—this is his own private book which I afterwards found in his desk in the office—I went to Treacher's with him, purposing to go in, but I did not; he wished me to remain outside a minute or two, and I looked upon him as a gentleman—he mid the principal was not in then, and the second time he told me so decidedly that the account was pro
<lb/>mised on the 29th, and my time was of more value than to go in and wait there—I went with him to Mr. Rawlings as far as the door, and he went forward and returned, and said he would pay shortly—I think there was no other transaction between us and Rawlings, except that one—when I first became acquainted with the prisoner, he was in the employment of Messrs. Mappin—he told me he was receiving 250
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a year there—I don't know that he said he also made 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. commission—I will not swear he did not, I cannot bear it in mind—I don't know that I went to him at Mappin's warehouse, and told him that I thought he could do better if he established a business for us; it was more his arrangement than ours; it came about in a casual conversation; he said the place did not suit his health, being confined in the room and so on, and I told him we had often thought of an agency of that sort; that was the way in which it first sprang up—I did not tell him that we could not allow him quite the commission he asked, but that I and the two partners would share thirty per cent. between us, each taking ten per cent. profit on the goods; I swear that—I believe during the six yeans he was at Mappin's he bore a most excellent character—I did not give him notice according to the terms of the agreement; he had a very nice way of putting things off; when I came up again in December, he said his wife was confined, and one of his children was very ill, and made many feasible excuses, and I know that both of his children have died since, and I passed it over more easily perhaps than I might have done—I asked for his books, and he said they were at his private house, and from these circumstances I did not press the matter then, but arranged to come up the second week in January, which I did—I should say he has not sent accounts to Sheffield constantly according to the terms of the agreement; I will swear that—he has sent some few accounts, I think about three or four—he has sent shuffling letters; I could produce letters that would take you almost a week to read—he has sent an account of the money he has received from various parties on the one side, and the money he has paid on the other—it was not a balance-sheet; we never could get one; we often pressed him for one, and he always framed some shuffling excuse—we placed trust in his accounts at the time, from what we thought, till we found him out—we took stock in February, 1864; the balance is contained in the letter of March, 1864.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFB</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you left London, after you had been to Treacher's and other places, did you make any arrangement with him as to meeting again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I proposed coming the first week in January, he thought I had better come the second week, and I arranged to do so, and did come—on going to my place of business in London Wall, I did not find the prisoner; he was gone—I never saw him again until he was taken into custody in the country—I knew where he was; from what I could learn, he was at his mother-in-law's, at Shefford; he did not come to my place of business; I took charge of the place myself from that time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> According to the terms of the agreement, he was not to have any salary; how much commission did you pay him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On an</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300040"/>
<p>average about 7 1/2—it depended upon his return, which we never could get—I did not induce him to leave Mappin's—it was his own arrangement, because it did not suit his health to be confined there—I can't exactly say what amount we have paid him, or allowed him in account—he did not often apply to us for patterns, and not get them; I swear that—he had a full amount of patterns—he did not say he could not get the bolts and piano
<lb/>forte keys for tuning; that was a private business of my own.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you allow him commission on all the money he accounted to you for?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> We did; after going to Treacher's and other places on 22d December, we did not receive any money from him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When was the last time you received any money from him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In November last; I think about the 19th—I could tell from the books—I have not got the account with me that was sent with that money—I can't say for certain whether I received any other money from him between 5th October and 19th November.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-139" type="surname" value="TREACHER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-139" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE TREACHER</persName> </hi>. I am an East India merchant at 14, Chatham-place, Blackfriars—on 5th October, 1863, I paid the prisoner 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on account of Messrs. White and Johnstone—this is his receipt (produced)—I also paid him 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on 14th November, 1863, after making some deductions—in December, 1864, there was no money owing from us to White and Johnstone, everything had been settled up to 27th August, 1864—this is the account—it was paid to a young man named Scollard—the account finished at that date—the prisoner did not see me on 22d December; not at all in December—he may have called at the office, but I was not present—I did not promise a cheque to him in December—there was nothing to pay.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> He may have called there and seen some one else?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; there was no account between us at any time in December.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-140" type="surname" value="SCOLLARD"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-140" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH SCOLLARD</persName> </hi>. I was employed under the prisoner at London Wall—I went to Mr. Treacher's in August, 1864, and received some money—I paid that over to the prisoner, 53
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. the same day—(Receipt read)—"October 5th, 1863. Received of Messrs. Treacher and Co., the sum of 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. sterling, for White and Johnstone, F. W. Le Poidevin."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You were employed by the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; Messrs. White and Johnstone; the prisoner employed me, Mr. White en
<lb/>gaged me, and paid me—the prisoner handed me the money—his name was up at the office as agent to White and Johnstone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-141" type="surname" value="RAWLINGS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-141" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM RAWLINGS</persName> </hi>. I keep a lodging-house at 33, Bury-street, St. James's—on 23d December, 1863, I paid the prisoner 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—this is the receipt (produced)—it was paid on the account of Messrs. White and John
<lb/>stone—I did not owe them or the prisoner anything in December—I selected some goods between 15th and 20th December—I paid him on 23d—in De
<lb/>cember, 1864, I did not owe the prisoner anything—he did not come to me in December, 1864—I did not see him in December, 1864.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> He might have called without your seeing him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Fifty people might call at our warehouse without my seeing them—the prisoner could have called without my seeing him—(the receipt was dated, December 23d, 1863, received of White and Johnstone 14
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., signed by the prisoner).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-142" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-142" type="surname" value="FOULGER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-142" type="given" value="THEODORE HALSTEAD"/>THEODORE HALSTEAD FOULGER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-detective</hi>). On 12th January, I went in search of the prisoner—I found him at a place called Clifton-fields, near Shefford, in Bedfordshire—I told him that I apprehended him on a warrant for embezzling the moneys of his employers, Messrs. White and Johnstone, of London—he made no reply—I found no money on him—I found five</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300041"/>
<p>duplicates—I took the prisoner seven miles off to a police-station—I searched the house where he was, and found four books, some invoices, and other papers, amongst others those letters which have been produced—before I went to Bedfordshire on the 12th, I had been searching for him in London, from Saturday, the 7th—I had not been to his private house—I had been looking for him, watching at the Great Northern Railway, where I was in
<lb/>formed I should be likely to find him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were you not walking about London with him on 7th?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not on the 7th, I think—on the 6th I was—I am certain it was not on the 7th—it was at his mother-in-law's that I found him; where his wife was—I apprehended him at 2 in the morning—I had a great difficulty in finding him—he never came near there for two days—I went down on 10th—I was not aware he was wanted when I was with him in London.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say you were about London with him, what was that for?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On other business—it would defeat the ends of justice if I were to say what it was—I was expecting at that time that he would be a witness about some other man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that it had been clearly proved by the agreement referred to in this case, that the prisoner was an agent, and not a clerk or a servant, and referred to the cases of Reg. v. Tite, Cox's Criminal Caves; Meg. v. Walker, Dearneley, and Bell, page 600; and Reg. v. May, Leigh, and Case, page 63. The
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi> considered that the prisoner might be an agent and also a servant, and left it to the jury to say whether he was a servant or not</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18650130-243-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-243-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-243-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">The Jury complained of the laxity of the prosecutors in not keeping the accounts closer with the prisoner.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18650130-244" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18650130"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-244" type="date" value="18650130"/>
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<p>244.
<persName id="def1-244-18650130" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-244-18650130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-244-18650130" type="age" value="38"/>
<interp inst="def1-244-18650130" type="surname" value="LE POIDEVIN"/>
<interp inst="def1-244-18650130" type="given" value="FREDERICK WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FREDERICK WILLIAM LE POIDEVIN</hi> </persName> was again indicted
<rs id="t18650130-244-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18650130-244-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-244-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="fraud"/> for obtaining by false pretences, 12 forks and 6 spoons, from
<persName id="t18650130-name-144" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-144" type="surname" value="ADAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-144" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-244-offence-1 t18650130-name-144"/>George Adams</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-145" type="surname" value="BLAKEWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-145" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BLAKEWAY</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Messrs. Chorner and Adams, of Hosier-lane, Smithfield, wholesale silversmiths—Messrs. White and Johnstone have dealt with us—I do not know the prisoner—I received this order (pro
<lb/>duced)—it was brought, I think, the day before Christmas day, Saturday, by a person named Scollard—I executed that order—I supplied six tablespoons and six dessert spoons, and six table-forks—I sent this invoice with the goods—we should not have sent these goods unless we had believed that the order came from White and Johnstone—they were silver goods—17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. I believe was the amount of the invoice—I have seen some of those goods since at Guildhall, and some at Mr. Russell's—they are ours.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Has the prisoner dealt long with you on behalf of White and Johnstone?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was one transaction previously, but I don't know whether it was through him or not—the goods were not served by me—I won't swear that there has not been more than one transaction.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METOALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> With White and Johnstone, or through the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> With White and Johnstone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-146" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-146" type="surname" value="SCOLLARD"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-146" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH SCOLLARD</persName> </hi>. I am employed at the prosecutor's office, at London-wall—on 24th December, I think, 1 took this order, by the prisoner's direction, to Messrs. Chorner and Adams—he simply told me to take the order and bring something back—the whole of this order is in his writing—I got a quantity of silver things and this invoice—I brought them hack and gave them to the prisoner the same day—I never saw them again till they were produced by the pawnbroker.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you often been to different manufacturers for</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300042"/>
<p>goods?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I had not been to Chorner and Adam's before—I have been to Holland and Son's, Northampton-square, two or three times, and several other houses of business—Silver and Flemings; they deal in fancy goods—I have also been to Smiley'e, who are silversmiths—I got some spoons and forks from there—I don't remember any others—I will not swear I have not been elsewhere.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you go to Holland's among other places?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I went there twice and got three watches on each occasion; that was about November or December—I took written orders for them from the prisoner, and gave the watches to him—(order read: "White and Johnstone 10, London-wall, E. C. Messrs. Chorner and Co., Hosier-lane. Please de
<lb/>liver to bearer the goods at foot. Yours, pro White and Johnstone, F. W. Le Poidevin. If your collector will call on Saturday, 30th, he can have the money. Half a dozen fiddle-pattern dessert forks, and half a dozen ditto ditto spoons (silver)."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-147" type="surname" value="FOULGER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-147" type="given" value="THEODORE HALSTEAD"/>THEODORE HALSTEAD FOULGER</persName> </hi>. I took the prisoner into custody—amongst the papers I found, I found a duplicate for goods pledged at Russell's; it was given to me by his wife—I also found a duplicate relating to goods at Sowerby's—Mr. White found the invoices for the goods.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where did you find them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At his house in Shefford; not on him, his wife gave them to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-148" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-148" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with Mr. Johnstone, of Sheffield—the prisoner was in our service at 10, London-wall—he had no right to obtain goods for us from Chorner and Adams, or any other place—we for
<lb/>warded goods to him from Sheffield—we are manufacturers—he had no right to obtain watches for us from Holland and Son—we don't deal in watches—I found in his desk an invoice for the goods at Messrs. Chorner and Adams—we had previous transactions with them, direct from Sheffield, nothing through the prisoner—we never gave him any authority to go to them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Will you swear that you have never known the prisoner to get goods for you to sell again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He has in one or two in
<lb/>stances got goods, and the invoices have not been sent to us for some time, and we have requested him not to repeat it again—he has got goods for us twice or three times; not more that I am aware of—we objected to that—I never met or saw the prisoner in Dublin, or on a journey—I have never told him that he might get goods at Harrison's—I will swear that—if Mr. Harrison said so to the prisoner it would not be true—I have not told the prisoner that he might get silver spoons if he required them at any time from Hall and Holt's, because he could get them cheaper than at Sheffield.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> About what time was it that you told him not to do this again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The last time we told him was in November, 1864—he sent them to the customers on those occasions, but we wished him not to do it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-149" type="surname" value="COTTON"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-149" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED COTTON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Russell, pawnbroker of 37, Fore-street—I produce six silver tablespoons, six dessert forks, and six dessert spoons pawned with us on 24th December for 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by the prisoner—this duplicate produced by the officer corresponds with the ticket I have.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you others pledged on that day by other people?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I dare say we had—the prisoner pledged these.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-150" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-150" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-150" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Sowerby, pawnbroker, of 78, Chis
<lb/>well-street—I produce six silver tablespoons pawned on 28th December, for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I believe the prisoner pawned them—this is the corresponding dupli
<lb/>cate.</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186501300043"/>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you the spoons here?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I am not quite sure it was the prisoner who pledged them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you sure that is the corresponding duplicate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-151" type="surname" value="BLAKEWAY"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-151" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BLAKEWAY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). These six spoons produced by the last witness have our mark on them—I believe they are the spoons I sup
<lb/>plied on 24th December to the prisoner—they would be worth from 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. the half dozen; 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. would be very much under the mark—these produced by Mr. Cotton are also mine—they complete the invoice.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you manufacturers of these things?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; we made those; they correspond with what I sold—I could not say they were the same spoons; they are our make—I would not swear they are what I sent to the prisoner to that day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have all of them your mark upon them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I know them by the manufacturer's mark and a private mark besides—they correspond with the description on the invoice.</p>
<p>
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<p>245.
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<interp inst="t18650130-245-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/> was again, indicted for stealing 380 spoons, 44 knives, 61 forks, 1 pair of fish carvers, and other articles, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-245-offence-1 t18650130-name-153"/>William White</persName> and another.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-154" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-154" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with Mr. Johnstone—we placed the prisoner at 10, London-wall, to carry on our business—he commenced with a stock sent up from Sheffield, consisting chiefly of electro-plated goods—I examined the stock after he went away, and found it upwards of 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. deficient—that was for things we could not account for, that were not entered at all—I have seen goods produced by several pawnbroker, and what I have seen are our goods—the prisoner had no right to pledge goods in any way, and if he made a sale it was his duty to send us an account of it the same day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Don't you know that an agent would be entitled to keep goods for any commission owing to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I saw these goods at Guildhall—the prisoner paid Scollard, I believe, up to last December.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is there money owing to the prisoner by you, or is there money owing to you by him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Money owing to us by him—I be
<lb/>lieve 1, 000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there is no pretence for saying that we owe money to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-155" type="surname" value="FOULGER"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-155" type="given" value="THEODORE HALSTEAD"/>THEODORE HALSTEAD FOULGER</persName> </hi>. I found five duplicates on the prisoner—I produce two which relate to goods pawned at Harrison's—those goods are given up—I afterwards searched the prisoner's house, and found thirty-nine duplicates; they apply to these goods—watches, electro-plated goods, and silver goods.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Those are the duplicates you spoke of that the wife gave to you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, some of them—I did not say all when you asked me before—what I produce now I had from the wife.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-156" type="surname" value="HOLMES"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-156" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HOLMES</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Barker, pawnbroker of 17, Aldgate High-street—I produce five dozen plated spoons and forks pawned for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on 10th December, 1864, by the prisoner in the name of James Ward—I find the corresponding duplicate here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-157" type="given" value="JOHN MORRITT"/>JOHN MORRITT WALTER</persName> </hi>. I am a pawnbroker, at 105, Aldersgate-street—I produce a plated fish-carver and fork pawned on 3d December for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the name of John Ward—I did not take them in myself—I produce the ticket, it corresponds with the one found on the prisoner—I also produce twelve plated tablespoons pawned on 30th November for 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the name of John Richards, 7, John-street—I have the corresponding duplicate to that; and two</p>
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<p>dozen tablespoons pawned on 10th December, 1864, in the name of John Ward—I did not take in the two last—I think I took in the fish-carver and fork for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I can't remember who pawned it—the person is not here who took in the others—all the three duplicates correspond with those produced by the officer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-158" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-158" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-158" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WHITE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). This property produced was part of our stock—I find our marks and labels on them—the price of these spoons and forks produced by Holmes, is about 68
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a dozen gross, and about 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a dozen net, for cash.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you sufficiently looked at those to swear they are all yours without undoing them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; they have our labels on them—these were amongst the stock we sent up to London-wall—all I can say is, they are our make.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">REEVES</hi>. I produce some plated waiters pawned on 13th October for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the name of John Richards—I have the corresponding dupli
<lb/>cate here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> That was not the prisoner, I presume?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I don't know the prisoner at all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GENT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that if the prisoner was an agent he could not be charged with larceny; as an agent had an ownership which entitled him to hold goods, and he would only be liable as a misdemeanant, see Reg. v. Hassell.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MET
<lb/>CALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">urged that if the prisoner was an agent; he was a bailee and then the Bailee Act would apply. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">was of opinion that there was nothing in the objection.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-245-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<p>246.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES LORD</hi> (24)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18650130-246-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi> to unlawfully obtaining by false pretences from
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-160" type="given" value="ALFRED THOMAS"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-246-offence-1 t18650130-name-160"/>Alfred Thomas Evans</persName>, 39 pencils, 5 quires of paper and other goods with intent to defraud
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-161" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-246-offence-1 t18650130-name-161"/>John Lucas Houghton</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18650130-246-punishment-24" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 31
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1865.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<p>247.
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-247-offence-1 t18650130-name-163"/>James Glanders</persName>, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEMP</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-164" type="surname" value="GLANDERS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-164" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES GLANDERS</persName> </hi>. I am a brush-maker, of James-street, Bethnal-green—I was sitting by the fire, and my wife came up stairs, and brought up all manner of family affairs—I requested her to go down, and she would not—I turned my head to avoid quarrelling with her—she said that her brother-in-law and I were to meet together—I became rather irritated, and up with my hand rather hastily; it might have struck her—she snatched something off the box, and I felt a sensation come over me—I do not know what she struck me with, it was so hasty—I did not see what was in her hand—I do not think she intended to do it, because she was smiling a few minutes before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-165" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-165" type="surname" value="KITCHEN"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-165" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT KITCHEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 366). On 15th January, the prosecutor called me, and told me in the prisoner's presence that she had stabbed him with a knife—she said that she knew nothing at all about it, he must have done it himself—the blood on his arm was congealed—it appeared to have been done half an hour—I found no knife—the prosecutor said in her</p>
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<p>presence that it was a Spanish knife, and that she had made away with it—I took her in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I told you it must have been done accidentally.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> No; you said that he did it himself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-166" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-166" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-166" type="surname" value="ROLFE"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-166" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ROLFE</persName> </hi>. I am divisional surgeon to the Police—on Sunday, 15th January, between 4 and 5 in the afternoon, I examined the prosecutor—he had a clean incised wound, an inch deep, on the upper part of his right arm—it could not have been self-inflicted—it was dangerous from its wounding the nerve of the delcoid muscle, which might have caused paralysis—it might have been inflicted with a knife, but certainly not by a file.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> My husband is paralyzed, and that arm is always numb; the knife was in his hand. I had made some broth, and sent some up by the little boy to my husband, who was sitting by the fire. When went up, he called me filthy names, and used disgusting language. I said, "You ought to be ashamed to use such language before the child." He struck me on the mouth, and he had the knife and fork in his hand. I declare I did not do it I hope the little boy is here to prove how he ill-uses me.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of unlawfully wounding under excitement.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-247-18650130 t18650130-247-punishment-25"/>Confined Three Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>248.
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<interp inst="def1-248-18650130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-248-18650130" type="age" value="38"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY WILLIAM GOODFELLOW</hi> (38)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18650130-248-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="sexual"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-248-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="bigamy"/>, Feloniously marrying
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-248-offence-1 t18650130-name-168"/>Eliza Ann Edwards</persName>, his wife
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-169" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-169" type="surname" value="GOODFELLOW"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-169" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18650130-248-offence-1 t18650130-name-169"/>Eliza</persName> being alive.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DALEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-170" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-170" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-170" type="surname" value="EDWARDS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-170" type="given" value="ELIZA ANN"/>ELIZA ANN EDWARDS</persName> </hi>. I reside at Priest-bridge, Mortlake, Surrey—I have known the prisoner over seven years—he is a gardener—he paid his addresses to me, and proposed to marry me—he told me he was single—we were married on 10th July, 1861, in Hackney Church—I lived with him as his wife up to 20th July, 1862, only one year—I then went to my mother's to be confined—I had a daughter, who is still alive—in August I heard the prisoner was a married man, by a letter that was sent to my mother—I did not live with him after that—I have both the certificates (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I obtained one at St. Paul's Church, Hammersmith—I and my mother compared it with the entry in the register.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe he has behaved very kindly to you, has he not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, he has not—he strongly denied that he was a married man, even when I showed him the certificate—I did not ask him before I married him—I went home to be confined because he would not find me anything.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-171" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-171" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-171" type="surname" value="EDWARDS"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-171" type="given" value="ISABELLA"/>ISABELLA EDWARDS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Arthur Compton Edwards, a police-constable, and live at 2, St. John-terrace, South Hackney—I am the mother of the last witness—I saw her married to the prisoner on 10th February, 1861—the certificate is a true copy of the entry in the registry.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18650130-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18650130-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-172" type="surname" value="GOODFELLOW"/>
<interp inst="t18650130-name-172" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS GOODFELLOW</persName> </hi>. I am engineer on board the Robert Barnes steam-tug—the prisoner is my uncle—I was present at St. Paul's Church, Hammersmith, on 10th December, 1854, when he married Elizabeth Good
<lb/>fellow—she was his cousin—I next saw her about a fortnight ago, I believe it was her, at one of the public-houses in Bishopsgate-street; at the Bald-faced Stag, I believe it was.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you not seen her since the the wedding till then?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, and never heard anything about her—I did not know whether she was dead or alive—I had seen the prisoner during that time a great many times—he was living by himself till he married the second time—I did not know where the first wife was living till she came up</p>
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<p>all of a sudden—I float up and down the Thames from Gravesend to London—I don't call myself a seafaring man.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-name-173" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS EDWARDS</persName> </hi>. I keep a beer-house, at Priest-bridge, Mortlake—the prosecutrix is my sister—I was not aware at the time the prisoner married her that he was a married man—I was examined before the Magistrate—that is my signature to my deposition—what I said is wrongly put down—I did not know that he was married before he married my sister—I saw the first wife at Kennington on 2d January—I spoke to her, in company with a police-constable—I afterwards saw her at the Bald-faced Stag—I did not know her before—I never saw her till 2d January—I had been inquiring—somebody said she was the prisoner's wife.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Policeman, V</hi> 164). I took the prisoner—I told him he was charged with bigamy, in the presence of the prosecutrix—he made no answer to the charge.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not he say that he thought his first wife had been dead for a long time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He stated so at the Police-court—he said that he had not seen her for nine or ten years, and he thought she was dead.</p>
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<interp inst="t18650130-248-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="smallCaps">LOUISA GOODFELLOW</hi> stated that the prisoner's wife lived with him only six weeks after their marriage, and then pawned his property, and left him, and that he had not seen her since.—
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<p>249.
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