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<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</p>
<p>Sessions Paper.</p>
<p>LAWRENCE, MAYOR.</p>
<p>TENTH SESSION, HELD AUGUST 15TH, 1864.</p>
<p>MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,</p>
<p>TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND BY</p>
<p>JAMES DROVER BARNETT</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>ALEXANDER BUCKLER,</p>
<p>Short-hand Writers to the Court.</p>
<p>ROLLS CHAMBERS, No. 89, CHANCERY LANE.</p>
<p>THE POINTS OF LAW AND PRACTICE,</p>
<p>REVISED AND EDITED BY</p>
<p>ROBERT ORRIDGE, ESQ.</p>
<p>OF THE MIDDLE TEMPLE, BARRISTER-AT-LAW.</p>
<p>LONDON:</p>
<p>BUTTERWORTHS, 7, FLEET STREET,</p>
<p>Law Publishers to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.</p>
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<p>THE</p>
<p>WHOLE PROCEEDINGS</p>
<p>On the Queen's Commission of</p>
<p>OYER AND TERMINER AND GAOL DELIVERY,</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>The City of London,</p>
<p>AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE</p>
<p>COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION</p>
<p>OF THE</p>
<p>CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT,</p>
<p>Held on Monday, August 15th, 1864, and following days.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">BEFORE THE RIGHT HON</hi>.
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-1" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LAWRENCE</persName>, LORD MAYOR</hi> of the City of London; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN BARNARD BYLES</hi>, Knt., one of the Justices of Her Majesty's Court of Common Pleas;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CHALUS</hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS QUESTED FINNIS</hi>, Esq.;
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-2" type="given" value="BENJAMIN SAMUEL"/>BENJAMIN SAMUEL PHILLIPS</persName> </hi>, Esq.;
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-3" type="given" value="JAMES CLARKE"/>JAMES CLARKE LAWRENCE</persName> </hi>, Esq.;
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT BESLET</hi>, Esq.; and
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-4" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID STONE</persName> </hi>, Esq., Alder
<lb/>men of the City of London;
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-5" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CHAMBERS</persName> </hi>, Esq. Q.C., Common Serjeant of the said City; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT MALCOLM KERR</hi>, Esq., Judge of the Sheriffs' Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HILARY NICHOLAS NISSEN</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS CAVE</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN WILSON NICHOLSON</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES GAMMON</hi>, Esq.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Under-Sheriffs.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LAWRENCE, MAYOR. TENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters—the figures after the name in the indictment denote the prisoner's age.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, August</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th, and Tuesday, August</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1864.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ORRIDQE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-10" type="given" value="NICOLAS TANCO"/>NICOLAS TANCO AMERO</persName> </hi>. I am a banker and general merchant at 11, Rue Bergere, Paris—I carry on business there with two partners, under the firm of Le Grand, Tanco & Co.—we had also an office at 117, Cheapside—in May, 1863, the prisoner was introduced to us by one of the partners in Messrs. Candy's house, and very highly recommended to us—they are large silk merchants—we afterwards agreed that the prisoner should become the agent for our house in London; he was to receive 4000 francs, which is equivalent to 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a-year, and-one per cent, on sales—I have the letter of instructions here, which was given to the prisoner before he left Paris—my partner engaged him—I know exactly what he said to him—I was not present; I had left for London—I said nothing to the prisoner before I gave him this letter of instructions—I approved of the instructions in London when he came over—(
<hi rend="italic">This letter contained instructions to the prisoner that he should, before he made any sales, be satisfied as to the solvency and respectability of the buyers, that the books should be kept in the usual way of business, and that an extract from them should be sent every month to Paris</hi>)—The prisoner came to London at the end of May, 1863—he did very little business between that time and the end of December—I communicated to him in reference to his sales and transactions, and about December he came over to Paris—he said that the business began to promise, that he had begun to make good connections, and the only thing that he required in order to carry on a good and important business, was to have a stock of goods, which he said would be necessary about the spring, when the London season began—he said he had brought two buyers with him; he did not tell me their names then, or in his correspondence afterwards—I told him to introduce them to me, but he said he could not present them then, because they were very busy—he said they were buyers for some large English houses—on that statement I</p>
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<p>gave him some directions as to the purchase of silks—he proceeded to Lyons to buy the stock that he wanted, and he also went to Switzerland—the amount of his purchases at those two places were about 30,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the goods all went straight to London, and the prisoner went also, without writing us what amount he had bought, or anything about it—the goods consisted of silks to the value of 16,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., plush 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., leather about 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and cotton and printed goods to the amount of 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—there was also 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth more, which he bought at the same time—the whole amount of goods transmitted to London at that time was about 32,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth—the prisoner got back to London again about the 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> or 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> of February, 1864—I came from Paris to London on 6th or 7th of February—I saw the prisoner—he said, "All my stock is sold, the goods are in the hands of all the people who bought them"—I did not even know that the goods had arrived in London—I then asked him who the buyers were he had brought to Paris, and he told me they were Messrs. Lhemann and Arand—I heard of an alleged transaction with Bevington's, at the very beginning of February, before I came to London—we had a telegraphic despatch—I communicated to the prisoner with reference to it, and he gave me the same answer that he had given to the house—I cannot find the letter which we wrote to the prisoner about that, but I have the answer we received on the 7th. or 8th. o£ February the prisoner—(
<hi rend="italic">This letter, being in French, was interpreted; it was dated 8th of February</hi>, 1864,
<hi rend="italic">and stated that he had been to Messrs. Bevington and Sons that morning, and that his client had offered them some goods for the purpose only of getting the value of them, and to assure himself that he had not paid too high a price for them, that there was nothing to be alarmed about, and that tive prosecutors might always rely on his (the 'prisoner s) help and assistance</hi>)—I have now found the other letter (
<hi rend="italic">This was dated 6th of February, from the prosecutors to the prisoner, recommending him the greatest possible circumspection as to the people he did business with, and that he was always to try and get the best possible security</hi>)—I came to London immediately after that, and spoke to the prisoner about Bevington's transaction—I repeated to him what we had said in that letter—I told him that we had great fears that all the leathers were bought by some person who could not pay for them, and who had offered them for the purpose of raising money—the prisoner said, "Don't have the least fear about that client, he always pays me beforehand, that is the best answer I can give, the only reason they offered those leathers was to make themselves sure that they did not pay a high price for them"—he afterwards told me who that client was—I thought it useless to see Bevington upon that statement—the actual date upon which I came to London was the 7th—I did not wait for the answer to our letter—I asked the prisoner to give me a list of all his clients, so that I could take references of all of them—he gave me a list on a bit of paper—I have not got it—I kept it for some time, and then destroyed it—I showed the names
<hi rend="italic">to</hi> several merchants, and within half an hour I found out all about them, and told the prisoner verbally that all those clients were good for nothing—they put opposite to the different names he gave me in pencil "very bad," "very bad"—the first name was Lhemann, the second Arand, and so forth—I said to the prisoner, "Nothing can he said about these houses; nobody knows them at all; people say they are good for nothing, that they cannot be trusted to any sum, and I forbid you to let them have any more goods whatever"—he said that the information was wrong, that he had known these people for many years, especially Lhemann, as a very high standing and respectable person; that we could rely upon them; we were sure to be paid our money</p>
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<p>—he said Lhemann bad been highly recommended to him by De Vaux and Co., the bankers, and that moreover he had known him for many years, and that from his high character we should be sure to be paid—he said that a man of the name of Leo had presented Arand to him, and that his banker also had given good references—I recollect saying something to the prisoner about getting a book-keeper—I said the books were in great confusion, that he most get a book-keeper at once—he replied to that that it was a very difficult thing to get a book-keeper in London, but that he had already spoken to a Belgian whom he would very likely get; he told me at that time that Lhemann owed us about 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I looked at the books, and that was the amount according to the books—he had not before that sent me any account sales to Lhemann—I saw Lhemann immediately before I went to Paris (
<hi rend="italic">Lhemann was here brought to the bar</hi>); that is the person I saw—I believe I returned to Paris the very day I arrived here, the 8th, but before I returned I went with the prisoner to see Lhemann at his office—Lhemann told me that he had purchased many goods from us, and that he was doing a very large business at the Cape and Mauritius, and in different parts of the world—I told him that I wanted to draw on him for part of his debt, and that I should at least draw upon him for 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—I said, "I want" you to give me a bill for that amount"—he said, "I have no objection to send you the bill, and whatever balance I may owe you I will pay in the course of the month of May"—he did not tell me at that time how much he owed me—we went out, and I said to the prisoner, "We shall be sure to lose our money, those are no merchants, persons circumstanced as those are, the office looked wretched and miserable—the prisoner said, "Oh, you may be sure that every penny will be paid; he is a very high character, and you must not judge by appearances; I regret you want the drafts, for without those bills I should be sure of getting all the money in April"—I told Lhemann be could not expect to have any more credit till he paid us the debt—he said I was very wrong in stopping his credit, for that would prevent him from paying me what he owed me sooner; he would not have any facilities for paying me—I was not aware that on that very day, the 8th, the prisoner sold goods to Lhemann to the amount of 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in valued or that two days afterwards he sold goods to him to the amount of 796
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I never even surmised any such sale—the prisoner also introduced me to Arand; next morning, when I arrived at the office in Cheapside, I found Mr. Arand waiting for me—the prisoner had told me before that that he wanted to present Mr. Arand to me—I had a general conversation with him; he said he was a large merchant, that he was accustomed to buy of different houses in London, but that he preferred buying goods from us, because he bought them on advantageous terms—I had a conversation to try and find what were his means, and his commercial standing—he said he was waiting for a very large order which Werner had ordered, and which we fortunately stopped—it was given to the manufacturers at Lyons; the prisoner had ordered them for him at Lyons—we stopped that at once, and the manufacturers then for the first time refused to advance any more goods—Arand said he had consigned the goods to York and other places—I told him that we wanted bills at least to the amount of 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to be paid in a couple of months, and that he would have no further goods until these bills were met—according to the books, he owed us about 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he said he would shortly pay 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and that the whole amount would be paid in a few days if I did not draw the bills—the prisoner confessed that he never inquired of the merchants to whom I had</p>
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<p>introduced him—I presented him personally to four houses; Messrs. Isaacs and Son, Mildred and Co., Drake and Co., and Schloss and Co., who were ready to give him all sorts of advice—I had not the least idea that on 10th February the prisoner trusted A rand again with goods to the amount of 1,179
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I returned to Paris on 14th—I went to Manchester before that, and returned immediately—the last thing I said to the prisoner when I left, was not to trust either Lhemann and Arand further, as they were worth nothing, and I had heard from a reliable source that they were not worth 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and that they could not be trusted to that amount—between 14th and 20th I received bills of exchange from the prisoner to the amount of 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from Lhemnnn, and 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from Arand—on 20th I returned those bills to the prisoner in a letter—(
<hi rend="italic">This letter stated that it was impossible for Messrs. Le Grand, Tanco, to negotiate the drafts and bills of exchange, and that it was indispensable for them to have the value of those bills on the Wednesday following, as they had to pay a large sum to one of their clients. It also desired that the prisoner should not give credit to Lhemann and Co. to a sum higher than</hi> 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">and that if he went beyond that figure they should hold him responsible, and that he was to send them word by telegraphy on the Tuesday, whether they might depend on the sum of money being sent</hi>).</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Just explain that passage in the letter about giving Lhemann a credit of 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That if at once they would pay all they owed, not to trust them again over 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this memorandum was sent in that letter
<hi rend="italic">"Lhemann—limited credit—capital small and insufficient for his business—established two or three years—respectable character, but too enterprising, and has not sufficient capital"</hi>—I afterwards received from the prisoner a letter dated 23
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> February—I was not at all aware that between 27th February and 8th March the prisoner supplied Arand with further goods to the amount of 7,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 5th March we wrote to him again, and asked him the precise names of the persons to whom he sold—I have the books here—there is, on 6th February, sold to Lhemann and Co., 2,128
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on 9th, to Arand, 1,179
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d;</hi> on 10th, to Lhemann, 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi> 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on 11th, 796
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on 15th 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on 16th, 391
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi> 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, all to Lhemann—there are four books full of sales made to Arand and Lhemann—the sales to Arand between 27th February and 8th March, were 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>, 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>, 2
<hi rend="italic">d;</hi> on 1st March, 1,007
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; and on the same date 954
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; on 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, 193
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—all these four page full of goods are on the same date, amounting altogether to 4,608
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—on 7th there was a sum of 803
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>—on 5th March we wrote this letter to the prisoner—(
<hi rend="italic">This stated that the prosecutors had not received the</hi> 50,000
<hi rend="italic">francs promised in the prisoners last letter, and asking him to send the money that day by a draft, so that they should be in possession of the sum of</hi> 23,579
<hi rend="italic">francs on the next Monday. It also stated that it was ablso
<lb/>lutely necessary for the prisoner to have a regular system of keeping his accounts, I and send them over extracts of his negotiations</hi>)—After that letter I find these items in the books, on 7th, to Arand, 803
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d;</hi> on 8th, to Arand, 508
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>—he did not communicate to me any of those account-sales—I came to London again about 15th March—I saw the prisoner; he had not got a book-keeper, and I engaged a book-keeper at once, and had all the books made up, and put in order—I then found out what amount Arand and Lhemann had had from the time we told the prisoner not to trust them; we began to see clearly, for the first time—I went with Werner to see Lhemann, and said that the 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> of April was approaching, and asked him if he was able to meet his bill—before I went there the prisoner told me that Lhemann had promised him from 4,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on Saturday—Saturday</p>
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<p>arrived, and he did not pay anything—after that I went to Lhemann and asked him if he could meet his bill on 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> April—he expressed his inability to do so, and said, "I have already written to the Paris house, stating that I cannot, because 20,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. which I expected from different quarters, has not arrived, and I have no money"—of course I said, "If you want us to wait any longer you must give us some security; have you any property, any shares?"—I asked him what security he could give us, in whatever shape—I said, "You must have sold these goods to somebody?"—he then gave me these bills of exchange (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—he said, "I have made my sales to the extent of 8,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which I can hand you as collateral security"—I said, "I will not take them in payment, only as collateral security" and he handed me all these bills, with some others—I never got a penny on those bills—I asked him what sort of bills they were; he said that very likely some of them would not be paid, but a great part of them would—they are completely worthless—Lhemann owes us 12,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the total amount of our loss is 32,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; that was in three months, from January to March—the prisoner sold Lhemann 12,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth, Arand 11,500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of goods, and about 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth to two or three people, who were recommended by them, without taking any references whatever.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> It was on 16th March that you first found out the extent of the debt, when you made up the books?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not exactly on the 16th March; we began to make them up at that time—we did not discharge the prisoner when we found this out, we did not think it was advisable; we kept him in our service till the day we gave him into custody, some time in June—we kept. him there from March until June—whatever little goods remained he sold—I stopped the orders, and told them not to send up any more—he had a power to sell whatever there was—he sold very little—I believe we had a small remittance of money from him during that time—I do not exactly know the amount we received from him in March and April—it is very likely we received about 7,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in cash, out of which my partner sent 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for goods sold by him—Mr. Cooper, the gentleman who made up the books, was here till this time, but is tired of doing nothing, and is gone away—Mr. Copleatone is not here—I have here an account-current of our house, which may prove what we received from the prisoner—it is taken from our books—I have Lhemann's account here—on 17th December he paid 406
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; on 4th January, 1864, 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; on 12th February, a 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill, which was subsequently returned; on 1st February, 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in a cheque, which was entered on our bankers; on 13th February, 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by cheque; 22
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> February, 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by a bill—all that amounts to 5,200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and if you deduct the 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill, he paid 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How many of the bills were returned unpaid?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was the 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill which was dishonoured—I don't know whether the one for 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was paid or not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you receive a cheque for 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. also on 12th February?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I saw Lhemann hand it to the prisoner in my presence the same day as I received the bill for 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; it is here, entered on 13th—I have seen the 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill since that; I don't remember whether I have seen it since these proceedings have been going on—this is the cheque for 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it was given on the day I had the conversation; it is dated here the 12th—I saw Lhemann on the 8th; no later than the 8th—I don't know how it is that the cheque is dated the 12th, and the bill entered the 13th—they could make it what day they liked—I went to Manchester,</p>
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<p>and a couple of days after I came back I went to Paris—I saw Lhemann after my return from Manchester; I saw him a second time—I saw him before I left, on the 13th, at his office; that was not the day I saw Arand I—I saw him on the 9th, the day after I arrived; that I am quite positive of—I am sure I arrived here on the 7th; I know by the letters—I arrived I here before that letter of the 6th was written—I left that same night—I I believe I went by myself to Lhemann the second time—I may have mistaken the date—I cannot swear whether I saw Lhemann on the 12th; I saw him on the 8th, before I went to Manchester—I saw him the very day I arrived—I may have seen him a second time, on the 12th, but I saw him on the 8th or 9th—this conversation I have told you of did not occur on the 12th; that was on the day of my arrival—I saw him on the 8th and 13th, the day I arrived, and when I went away; during that visit I saw him twice—it was on the first occasion that Lhemann gave the prisoner the cheque, I believe; I am not quite positive—it was the first time I saw him that he gave the cheque—I did not see the cheque to look at—the bill was I sent when I was in Paris; I did not Bee it in London—it may be amongst the papers; it was drawn about the 16th—I do not keep any diary—I have the letter-book here; that would tell me when I went to Manchester—here is a letter here dated the 11th, from the prisoner, which states, "Mr. Tanco is at Manchester, and will return to-morrow"—to-morrow would be the 12th—I saw Lhemann before I went to Manchester—I am not positive I saw him a second time; I may have done so—I saw him the very day I came from Paris—the prisoner was recommended to me by a gentleman named Miller, of the firm of Candy and Co.—I understood he had been in Candy's employ for three years here—they told me he had great experience in business, that he had been two years at least in England, and knew all the markets—he was their clerk—I don't know that his father is a banker; I know nothing of his family.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You told us what money you received from Lhemann, will you now tell us what you received from Arand?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On November 16th, 348
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. cash; on November 30th, a bill receivable for 377
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (I cannot guarantee that that has been met); January 4th, 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; February 12th, 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., by a bill in favour of Le Grand, Tanco, and Co.—all we know is that he owes 12,600
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—we only know what has been remitted to us—he must have paid 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he paid on 13th February, 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; March 2d, 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; March 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, 21
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; March 4th, 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; 5th, 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>; 12th, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; 18th, 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; a bill receivable 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—according to the books which were in London, Arand's account from 12th February was 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—this book is in the hand-writing of the clerk in the house, and some of it is in the prisoner's writing—the sums received from Arand altogether from 12th February to 8th March make about 7,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—we did not make a profit of 25 per cent, on these goods—six per cent, would be the utmost—there were other sales effected by the prisoner besides these—very small sales—the total sales altogether amounted to about 40,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in all transactions—I have a list here, made up by the book-keeper, up to 31st March, which says 36,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the prisoner gave me a list of further orders, amounting to 6,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which we did not wish to execute, because we could not ascertain whether they were true—there was nothing done in May—we have not received cash from the prisoner to the amount of 25,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that is ridiculous—sometimes he paid into Isaac's—I have not made any inquiry to ascertain what cash has been paid in by the prisoner—Brandon and Co. was not one of the firms to whom I advised the prisoner to apply—I believe my partner was a friend of one of</p>
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<p>that firm—this paper is in the handwriting of my partner, Mr. Le Grand—I dou't know whether the prisoner was introduced to Brandon and Co. or not—I believe my partner recommended the prisoner verbally, as he was at that time in Paris—I was in London then—I don't know that the prisoner I had a seat in Brandon's office till our offices were taken—we sent him over about 28th May, 1863—wo had not taken an office at that time—the first letter we had from him is written on Messrs. Brandon's paper—he might have gone in there and written a letter—my partner is in Paris—I wrote to the prisoner when I found that he had had some transaction's with Brandon's—I never saw Flatow till he was here—I never knew till now that he was chief clerk in Brandon's office—I did not know it till Lhemann was apprehended—we have employed a detective officer in this case—bills were taken from Arand for the whole amount—they are not due yet—we also took bills from Lhemann—there was one for 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>, which was due at the beginning of June—the first bill was due a few days after these proceedings—I have a letter here of 25th February, written by the prisoner to us—(
<hi rend="italic">This letter stated that the prosecutors might depend upon the prisoner recovering all the debts if they would let him alone; that he had been to Lhemann and Arand and he considered that after having granted a credit to them it would be imprudent to cut it of short by demanding the payment of</hi> 30,000
<hi rend="italic">francs, and that it was his intention to continue the credit, but progressively to decrease it.</hi>)—have the letter we wrote in answer to that, on the 26th—we told him it was necessary that he should remit some money to us—we were not pressing him for money at that time—we said we had to meet very heavy payment?, and it was necessary that he should make a remittance—whenever he was to receive money we reminded him about the remittance—there is a letter on 29th February, which says, "You must positively remit these amounts that you have promised, as we are greatly in want of 5,0002. which we have to pay to our bankers"—that was pressing him to send money—he had promised to send it—(
<hi rend="italic">A letter, dated 1st March, from the prosecutors to the prisoner was here read, which contained instructions and advice to the. prisoner as to how he was to act; also a letter of</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th March, which stated that the prosecutors began to feel uneasy, having been a week without receiving any news from the prisoner, or any remittances as promised to meet their engagements; that they were at a loss to understand what had become of the goods and the promised profits, and that if he (the prisoner) wished to retain his position he must give the prosecutors the means of acting by following all their instructions.</hi>)—Immediately after that I came to London—I believe it was on 19th March—Werner had already agreed to take other premises in Milk-street—I did not take any premises myself—I did not see any landlord—the prisoner was about seeing some premises for me—they were not taken—he was speaking about them with our sanction—I don't know that there was a lease granted for seven years—I have the letter of 27th March here, from our firm to the prisoner, it says, "We have received a letter from you, and we regret to find nothing satisfactory in your explanations; if we thought you a thief, instead of being now in London you would be locked up in Newgate. You have not entered into a single transaction which has not been a bad one, and you have not gone to any of the friends to whom Mr. Tanco presented you in the town; you have placed 700,000 francs in the hands of people who are insolvent, without making any inquiry about them; but we choose to believe that it is carelessness; you cannot justify yourself in any way," &c. &c.—That was the general tone of the correspondence after that—I believe a person belonging to the firm of Booking and Co. came to our Paris house to</p>
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<p>ask about trusting Arand—I referred them to the prisoner—I gave them I card of our London house, and said that we had done business with that name—I don't recollect exactly what was said—I have not been to see the prisoners Flatow and Lhemann since the last sessions here—I don't know whether my attorney has endeavoured to ascertain what evidence they could give—I was here last sessions—the case was adjourned that it might be seen what evidence Lhemann and Flatow could give.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you in Court when the application was made to have the trial adjourned.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I really don't know the ground of the ad
<lb/>journment—Lhemann and Flatow pleaded guilty, and the prisoner not guilty, and then the trial was adjourned—I did not know in January or February what credit the prisoner had given to Lhemann—I first ascertained that when the book-keeper put the books in order, on 16th March, or a few days after—the prisoner should have told us of any sales immediately after they were effected—he never got a large amount of money, and allowed a small amount of goods, as he promised in the letter of 25th February; just the reverse—after that, on 1st March, he received 1,007
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> from Arand, for goods sold—I don't think we had any remittances between 25th February and 1st March—the next was on 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> March, 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and then 970
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he did not remit anything from the last day of February till 7th March, and then he remitted 29,000 francs—when I came to London on 9th Arand's account was about 4.000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and when I went back again it was 7,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he increased it by 2,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. while I was here—I was not at all aware of he doing so—there was no difficulty in his consulting me at that time if he wished—he did not consult me about further credit—I don't think that transaction was entered in the books at that time—they were not kept of to the dates that I saw them then—they were not in order till I came over the second time, in March, when I got a book-keeper—they were in such a mess that nobody could tell anything—it was a systematic disorder—I refer to the ledger, journal, and cash-book—since that time they have been pat in order.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-11" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-11" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-11" type="surname" value="METCALFE"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-11" type="given" value="MK"/>MK. METCALFE</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say the prisoner came over to Paris in December or the beginning of January?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he went from Paris to Switzerland, and then to Lyons, to buy—he then returned to England at the end of January without seeing us—it was the 30th of January, I think, or the very beginning of February—there was a man named Killingworth at the office at times—he is in London—I don't know whether he is here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> That person was employed by the prisoner himself?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he is alive and well so far as I know—about 40,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of goods were consigned through the prisoner altogether—we have actually lost 32,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth—we have managed to save about 3000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth, which were at Manchester—we have received about 10,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of the 40,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., perhaps not so much—the expenses of the London establishment were charged against our house—there is 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. more for expenses, which the book-keeper cannot find out—this book will show it—there is up to May 275
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the prisoner's wages—this is Mr. Ball's, the book-keeper's, writing—the beginning of the book is kept by the prisoner—he was there at the time Mr. Bail kept it, it was done under his eyes—I only engaged him for a few days to put the books in order, and the prisoner afterwards made an arrangement to keep him always.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you find any entry, in the prisoner's writing, of wages showing what he took for the year?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; four entries—the 90
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. comes from the cash-book, which is not here—it can be here to-morrow morning—the book I have now was kept under the prisoner's superintendence.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You mean he was the general superintendent ef the office?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He superintended the whole business—I cannot tell that the cheque handed to me this morning is the same that I saw handed to the prisoner by Lhemann on 9th March—I did not see the amount of it at the time—the remark the prisoner made was, "That is the way he always pays me; right off"—nothing was said as to what goods that cheque was payment for, but be mentioned the amount to me, 1,0002.—I wrote him a letter on 17th June about his having been to Brandon's; I have a translation of it here—(
<hi rend="italic">this letter advised the prisoner never to do business with such a house as Brandon's, although it might be honourable, and that he had better be on his guard</hi>)—Brandon's bad not failed then—they failed about September for 60,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and that is the reason I took references, and forbad the prisoner to have any more business with them.</p>
<p>[
<hi rend="italic">Adjourned.</hi>]</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, August</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-12" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-12" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-12" type="surname" value="VAUX"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-12" type="given" value="ALEXANDER DE"/>ALEXANDER DE VAUX</persName> </hi>. I am a hanker in King William-street, City—I do not know Lhemann or Werner—I never gave Werner any reference or recommendation to Lhemann—I never authorized any one to do so on my behalf—Werner never applied to me, or to any one in my house that I know of.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is there a person of the name of Goyer in your employment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he has been there twelve or thirteen years—he is a man of respectability—I am told by the solicitor that he is here—I was called to the police-court to prove that no reference was given to Werner—I first saw Lhemann at the Mansion-house—I knew him by reputation before that—he was the agent of a correspondent of ours in Bordeaux, Subatez and Co., who are wine-merchants on a very extensive scale; they supply the Emperor—I heard that Lhemann was agent to them, only for a short time, and that he did very little business—I believe he became known to some persons in my establishment.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-13" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-13" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-13" type="surname" value="GOYBR"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-13" type="given" value="EUGENE"/>EUGENE GOYBR</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk in the service of the last witness, and have been so for nearly thirteen years—I gave a reference to Werner on behalf of Lhemann—he came to our office, And wanted some information about Lhemann—I know Lhemann; I was a friend of his—I was the chief corre
<lb/>spondence-clerk, and had charge of the information business in the house—I told Werner that I thought Lhemann was a respectable man, and good for a small amount—Werner said, "But in our articles accounts may be quickly run up, and I should like to have the sum"—I said, "What is the present transaction?"—he said, "About 400
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—I said, "He is good to that amount"</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long after that did you know Lhemann?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Up to the time he was given in charge—I was a little doubtful about the largeness of the transactions, because when in Paris I called on Messrs. Le Grand, and I heard that the amount of the transactions was certainly beyond the means—Mr. Le Grand knew I had given a reference—I don't know whether Mr. Tanco knew it—I have had transactions with Lhemann myself since giving the reference—my last transaction with him, I think, was on 8th January—some times he would call on me, and say," Can you lend me 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. "—I lent it him, and many times without any receipt—I lent him money on several occasions, and received it back; some times with interest, and some
<lb/>times without—we were friends; he gave me what he liked, and I lent him what he liked, for interest—I had lent him money previous to December—once he owed me 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—that was owing four weeks perhaps—he paid that long before Werner came to me—I don't think he owed me anything then</p>
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<p>that I can recollect—he has always paid me everything I lent him—I had I very good opinion of him until just before he was given in custody, when I found out the largeness of his transactions.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LEWIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you tell Werner he was one of the first merchants in the City of London?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> How could I say so—the smallest amount hi borrowed of me was 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—once he gave me 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for interest—we did not calculate any rate; he gave me 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the loan of about 150
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I did not tell Werner he had been in the habit of borrowing money of me—I should say 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. is a very small sum for a merchant in a large way of business to borrow—I am aware that Lhemann has pleaded guilty to comspiracy to defraud Messrs. Le Grand, Tanco, and Co.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-14" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-14" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-14" type="surname" value="CURLING"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-14" type="given" value="CHARLES RUSSELL"/>CHARLES RUSSELL CURLING</persName> </hi>. I am traveller for a Leeds house—I knew Arand carrying on business in Gracechurch-street—in March last he ordered some goods of me—he gave me a reference to Le Grand, Tanco, and Co., 117, Cheapside—he ordered goods to the amount of between 700
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 800
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I went to 117, Cheapside—I saw Mr. Copleston first, and while I was talking to him Werner came in—I asked him if he knew Arand—he said, "Yes;" that he had done business with him—I asked to what amount—he said "About 5,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—I asked if he had always paid him regularly—he said, "Yes—I said, "How has he paid you?"—he said, "In cash and bills"—I said, "Have the bills been met in the ordinary way?"—he said, "Yes, always"—I said, "Does he owe you anything now?"—he said, "Not a penny"—this wai somewhere about the 10th or 12th of March—I asked if he were to buy any goods of him, would he send them, and to what amount—he said, if he was to buy 3,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. worth of goods, he should send them in without asking any further question—I once saw Lhemaun and Flatow at Arand's at the latter end of April.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You sent no goods at all, I believe?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; from information I received—I am traveller to Walker, Lloyd, and Co.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-15" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-15" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-15" type="surname" value="PATCH"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-15" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PATCH</persName> </hi>. I was clerk to Le Grand, Tanco, and Co., of Cheapside, under the superintendance of Werner—I recollect his going to Paris is December last—Lhemann went with him—Arand and Lhemann frequently came to the office to buy goods—when Lhemann came, he went into a private office—they had some champagne sometimes, like most of the buyers did.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he always go into the private office?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he came into the warehouse to buy goods—he was as frequently in the public office as the private office—I knew Flatow before that, at Brandon's, where I was then—he was book-keeper there; he was in a confidential position—I think he was there for about eight months—the prisoner had a seat at Brandon's office before he went to Bread-street; before the prosecutors had an office of their own—I believe he transacted business for Le Grand and Tanco at Brandon's—I was a clerk at Brandon's—I had been long there—no one recommended me to the prisoner; finding me in the office, he asked me to come—I do not know that Flatow introduced a person named Leo to the prisoner—I don't know whether he introduced Lhemann—I had seen Lhemann once whilst I was at Brandon's—I went there once for Leo, who was a friend of Flatow's, I believe—I don't know what it was about; I merely took a note—I believe the prisoner came direct from Paris to Brandon's—I have seen Mr. Le Grand at Brandon's, but not at the time Werner was there, I think—I believe I saw him there two or three times—he was friendly with one of the partners—Brandon's afterwards came to a smash—Flatow left the office when I did, but he went to the accountants</p>
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<p>afterwards to make up the books—I think he left at the commencement of I September—Copleston was employed at the prosecutors' as salesman—I don't I know where he is now—an accountant, named Kellingworth came in De
<lb/>cember—the prisoner was away from the end of December till the begin
<lb/>ing of February—Copleston attended to the books during his absence—I don't remember seeing Mr. Tanco the first time he came—I was out the first I time he came; I saw him the second time he arrived—I can't recollect what I day it was—he came over two or three times—Lhemann came there once while Mr. Tanco was over; I don't know which time that was, whether the first or second time—Arand came at the same time as Lhemann.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-16" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-16" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-16" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-16" type="given" value="HENRY THOMAS"/>HENRY THOMAS SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am cashier in the service of Messrs. Bevington—Mr. Pace, our warehouseman, who was examined before the Magistrate, has had to go abroad—I was present at a conversation between Werner and Mr. Pace on Monday, 8th February, I think, but I have rather gathered the date from the correspondence—I know it was on a Monday—the prisoner brought in a letter which he had received from the prosecutors at Paris, which referred to a letter that had been written by our house about some calf-skins which had been offered for sale, and asked us for any information that we might be able to give him as to the house that had offered us these goods—we said the goods were offered by a house of which we were sus
<lb/>picious, and we asked him if he was aware of the position of the house which had offered us the goods—he then gave us the name of the house to which he had sold the goods—I do not recollect the name; I can't say whether it was Lehmann—we offered, while he waited, to send on to a protection society office, to which we subscribe, to gain some particulars of the standing of the house lie sold the goods to, for his information—he was quite willing to wait—we sent, and the report was doubtful.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-17" type="given" value="NICOLAS TANCO"/>NICOLAS TANCO AMERO</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi>) Mr. Chandler is employed by me as my solicitor, not in this business; he had charge of the bilk which were forged—he has not interfered with the conspiracy case; I put that into the bauds of Mr. Lewis.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Charles Candy, foreign merchant, of</hi> 4,
<hi rend="italic">Watling-street, City; Charles Wilson, silk merchant, of tit. Paul's Churchyard; Joseph Trent, commission agent, of Manchester; Mr. Butter, of</hi> 52,
<hi rend="italic">Gracechurch-street, East India merchant; and Richard Chandler, solicitor, of</hi> 2,
<hi rend="italic">Bucklersbury, deposed to the prisoner's good duxracter.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his previous character.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18640815-744-punishment-1" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-744-18640815 t18640815-744-punishment-1"/>Confined Two Years</rs>, and
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</rs> A similar sentence was paused upon Lhemann and Flatow.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>745.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARGARET SHEEN</hi> (33)</persName>
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<lb/>bery on
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi> the property of
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-21" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-745-offence-1 t18640815-name-21"/>Catherine Mather</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SHARPE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGUS WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-22" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-22" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-22" type="surname" value="MATHER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-22" type="given" value="CATHERINE"/>CATHERINE MATHER</persName> </hi>. I am a single woman—I live at 27, Great Wild street—previous to. 28th July I was living in the same house with the prisoners—I had a child—the female prisoner had the care of it for about four months—the father of the child was in the habit of sending me 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a month by Post-office order—the female prisoner was aware of that—she has received it for me, and the male prisoner also—on 27th July I received the Post-office order for 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. as usual—on 28th I was in Clare-market with Mary Aim Green—I had not got the Post-office order then, Green had it in her pocket; she bad received it for me—we went into Princes-street—I had</p>
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<p>my little girl at my side—the female prisoner took up the child—it began to cry to come away from her—I said to Green, "You go and fetch her away"—Green said she would have nothing at all to do with it—the female prisoner, who was the worse for drink, turned round and struck the prose-cutrix—there were seven or eight in the company—the male prisoner turned round and kicked her—Margaret Sheen's mother came and fetched the baby away—Green was on the ground, and they were beating and knocking her about—the female prisoner only slapped her in the face, it was the others that kicked and knocked her about—I left her on the ground and went for a policeman—as I was going the male prisoner turned round to me and said, "I have got the Post-office order, I have got it"—he said I might fetch a policeman, he did not care—I saw the paper he had in his hand, it was not the Post-office order, it was a bill of some things.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You have lived with the prisoners for some time, have you not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; for about two months—I was convicted of robbery and sent to gaol through the prisoner's brother—during that time the female prisoner took care of the child—I had a disagreement with her and I gave her into custody on a charge of stealing two of my dresses, and other things—she was tried at the Middlesex Sessions and acquitted—I was the principal evidence against her—this scuffle in the street happened two days afterwards—I am not the prosecutor, I am only a witness—Green received the Post-office order and the letter while I was out—she brought it to me, and I gave it her back again, and she put it in her pocket—I can't say that the prisoners were present then—the prisoners were very drunk—it was not them that did it all, there were six more in their company—I can't say that they took the Post-office order—the order was afterwards found thrown into Mr. Steven's shop, where I live.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SHARPE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You, say the prisoners were not present when you returned the Post-office order to Green?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; they were down at the bottom of the street—they could not see me, nor could I see them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-23" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-23" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-23" type="surname" value="GREEN"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-23" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN GREEN</persName> </hi>. I am single, and live at 12, Lincoln-court—on 28th July I received from Mather a Post-office order for 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—she gave it me in Clare-market—the prisoners could not see it given to me—Mather and I went into Princes-street—Mrs. Sheen there caught me by the hair, and dragged me down to the ground while the men kicked me—who the men were I don't know—I saw the male prisoner there—I can't say whether he did anything to roe, there were so many of them—this was about 8 in the evening—I was thrown down—they dragged my dress off me—I felt nothing in my pocket—I had the money order when I was knocked down—I can't nay that I felt a hand in my pocket—I afterwards missed the Post-office order when I got in doors—I had bid it in my pocket shortly before I was assaulted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-24" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-24" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-24" type="surname" value="FITZGERALD"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-24" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FITZGERALD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, F</hi> 50). On the evening of 28th, between 7 and 8 o'clock, I heard a row in Bow-street—I saw the male prisoner trying to prevent Mather from coming to the station—he had a piece of paper in his right hand—Mather, on seeing me, called out that he had violently assaulted a female at the bottom of Great Wild-street, and stolen a Post-office order from her—the prisoner made use of a very bad word, and said 6he had had a child by her uncle—he had been drinking—I took him to the station, and told him he was charged with violently assaulting a female—he said he did not know anything about it, the Post-office order must have dropped out of her pocket—I searched him, but did not find anything upon him—what he had in his hand was a bill—ho said it was a cheque.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you got that piece of paper?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">The following prisoners</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>:—</p>
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<p>746.
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<hi rend="italic">Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</hi> </rs>
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<p>747.
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<interp inst="t18640815-747-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/> (34), to embezzling, and stealing 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-747-offence-1 t18640815-name-28"/>Benjamin Sullivan</persName>, his master.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Six Months.</hi> </rs>
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<p>748.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS SHARP</hi> (16)</persName>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM WRIGHT</hi> (13)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18640815-748-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-748-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, to stealing 1 purse and 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-748-offence-1 t18640815-name-31"/>Mary Ann Harris</persName>, from the person, Sharpe having been before convicted.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Twelve Months.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WRIGHT</hi>.—
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<hi rend="italic">Three Months</hi> </rs>,
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<hi rend="italic">and Three Years in a Reformatory.</hi> </rs>
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<p>749.
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<interp inst="t18640815-749-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="mail"/>, Stealing whilst employed in the Post-office, a post letter, the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-749-offence-1 t18640815-name-33"/>Her Majesty's Post
<lb/>Master-General</persName>.—</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">Five Years' Penal Servitude.</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18640815-749-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/> [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>750.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE ISAAC EDMUNDS</hi> (20)</persName>
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<hi rend="italic">Five Years' Penal Servitude.</hi> </rs>
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<interp inst="t18640815-750-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/> [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]</rs> </p> </div1>
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<p>751.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EVAN EVANS</hi> (45),</persName>
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<interp inst="t18640815-751-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="other"/>Unlawfully distributing the copies of rules of a benefit society not certified.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SUUGH</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the prosecution, offered no evidence.</hi></p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-751-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-751-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, August</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1864.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS SMITH</hi> (39)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-37" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-37" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE OAKMAN</persName> </hi>. I keep the Hope and Anchor, Tottenham-lane, Hornsey—on Saturday, 9th June, about five minutes to 11, the prisoner came for a glass of ale, which came to three half-pence, and gave my wife a half-crown—she said that it was bad—he said he was not aware of it, and gave her a good florin—she laid the half-crown down and he picked it up—I told him to give it to me, or I should have him locked up—he threw it over the bar—I caught it and gave it to a policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-38" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES MOORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, M</hi> 104). The prisoner was given into my cus
<lb/>tody—he said that he had picked up a sovereign in the morning—I asked him where—he said that that had nothing to do with me—he said at the station that he got the half-crown by begging—he gave his name, Thomas Jackson—he was taken before the magistrate at Highgate, and discharged—this is the half-crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-39" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-39" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-39" type="surname" value="CHARLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-39" type="given" value="REBECCA"/>REBECCA CHARLEY</persName> </hi>. I am servant at the George and Dragon, kept by Mr. Ford—on Monday evening, 4th July, the prisoner came about 10 o'clock, and asked for a pint of beer, which came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>—he laid a half-crown on the counter—I took it up, and said to the prisoner, "Here is a bad half-crown "—he made no answer—my master gave him the half-crown, and he took 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. out of his pocket and gave him—I marked the half-crown with the tester—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-40" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-40" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-40" type="surname" value="KINO"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-40" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH KINO</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a beer-house at Southall—on 4th July the prisoner came in for a pot of beer, and tendered a half-crown—I put it in my teeth and found it was bad—I then cut it with a knife on one side—I gave it to a policeman, who stood close behind me—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-41" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-41" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-41" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM REVENEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-sergeant, T</hi> 7). On 4th July I was outside the tap-room of the George and Dragon, and saw the prisoner sitting in the tap-room</p>
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<p>—I followed him to Mrs. King's—he went past the house first, and I went in and told Mrs. King—while I was talking to her he came in, called for a pot of beer, and put down a half-crown—I told Mrs. King to see whether it was a good one—she put it to her mouth, said that it was bad, and gave him in custody—I searched him, and found on him 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 31/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money—when he passed the public-house he stood against a fence, whew Mr. Cook picked up seven half-crowns afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-42" type="surname" value="COOK"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-42" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES COOK</persName> </hi>. I live in Southall—I picked up some half-crowns against some palings, and gave them to my mother not long afterwards—it was in the morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-43" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-43" type="surname" value="COOK"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-43" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH COOK</persName> </hi>. I am the mother of the last witness—on 5th July he brought me seven half-crowns—I took them to the policeman Reveney.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-44" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-44" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two half-crowns which were uttered are bad, and among the six found, all of which are bad, there are two from the same mould as one of those uttered, and one from the same mould as the other.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-752-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted of utter
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY VERNON</hi> (55)</persName>, was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PALMER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">that Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-46" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-46" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BRANNAN</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Carpenters' Arms, Kingsland-road—at the latter end of June, about half-past 9 in the evening, I served the prisoner with half a quartern of gin, which came to twopence farthing—she gave me a king's shilling—I gave her 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 33/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I had cleared the till a few minutes before she came in, leaving in it three king's shillings and three sixpences—she then asked for two sixpences for a shilling and gave me a Victoria shilling—I gave her two sixpences and dropped the shilling in the till—shortly afterwards I went to the till and saw that it was counterfeit—I had put no other shilling in in the meantime, and no other person had been to the till; I was present all the time—I marked it and laid it on one side—on 12th July, between 3 and 4 o'clock in the afternoon, the prisoner came again; I recognised her instantly—she asked for a pint of half-and-half which came to twopence, and gave me a Queen's shilling, which was bad—I told her she had been there previously and passed another—she said that was a mistake—I gave her in charge with both shillings, which I marked.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long have you been barman at this public-house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> More than twelve months—there is also a potman, and the master and mistress—they do a pretty fair business—there are three compartments in the bar, and two tills—the master and mistress were not there; the potboy was—I think the silences in the till were king's also, but will not pretend to say—I have seen the prisoner before—I have not noticed her with a fruit basket—I knew her when she came in the second time—I told my master perhaps a week afterwards of the first shilling being taken—I had marked it, and put it among other bad shillings in a box behind the bar—we have not received one bad one since the prisoner has been in custody—the prisoner said that she did not know it was bad—I have seen her before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you taken bad money before the prisoner was taken up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; but none since—I put them into a box—I cut this one over the crown; I did not mark the others.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-47" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-47" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE RAWLINS</persName> </hi>. The prisoner was given into my charge on 12th July at the Carpenters' Arms, with these two shillings—I told the prisoner the</p>
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<p>charge; she said that she did not know the money was bad—at the station I received sixpence and fourpence halfpenny in halfpence from the searcher, who said, in the prisoner's presence, that she took them from her—they were good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know that she sells fruit?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not, though I have seen her in the neighbourhood.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-48" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-48" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-48" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-48" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These shillings are both bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Look at that sixpence; is that good?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; the shillings are from different moulds—there are thousands of counterfeit coins circulating in London.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM ADAMS</hi> (21)</persName>, was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-50" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-50" type="surname" value="CROFT"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-50" type="given" value="KATE"/>KATE CROFT</persName> </hi>. I am the daughter of James Croft, who keeps the Swan at Waltham-green—on 18th July, about a quarter to 3 o'clock, the prisoner came for a glass of ale, which came to threehalfpence; he gave me a shilling—I gave him sixpence and fourpence halfpenny change—I put the shilling in the front compartment of the till, where there was only a sixpence and a fourpenny-piece—the prisoner left, and five or ten minutes afterwards Mr. Abbott and Mr. Parry came in—I then looked at the shilling and found it was bad—there was no other there—no one else had been serving in the bar; I wad there all the time—I saw Pike bite the shilling—he went out and came back with the prisoner, and said, "Is this the man?" and I said, "Yes," and he was given in custody—I gave the shilling to Pike.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Were there other shillings in the till?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was about 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. worth of silver in another compartment—I swear to you by your hair, and by your being lame with one foot—I merely knew that you were lame with one foot.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was there any other money in that compartment where you put the shilling?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Only a sixpence and a fourpenny-piece.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-51" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-51" type="surname" value="PIKE"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-51" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK PIKE</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Swan Tap, Waltham-green—I remember Mr. Parry and Mr. Abbott coming into the bar—I went to the till, and in the first compartment found a shilling, a sixpence, and fourpenny-piece—Miss Croft was in the bar; she took a shilling and gave it to me—I tried it with my teeth, and found it was bad—Mr. Parry gave me a descrip
<lb/>tion, and I met the prisoner coming towards me—I said, "I want you"—he said, "What for?"—I said, "For passing bad money"—he said, "Me? I know I have not"—I said, "Come along with me, and you will see"—I took him to the Swan and gave him in custody with the shilling—there was some silver in another compartment of the till.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Were you in the bar at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I was at the till after Miss Croft left—you were walking towards the Swan when I left you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you go to the till before you went to look for the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-52" type="surname" value="PARRY"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-52" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY PARRY</persName> </hi>. I am a greengrocer of Waltham-green—on 18th July I was at the corner of Water ford-road, and heard the prisoner say to two other men, "There is four for you, and five for you" giving them something wrapped in paper—they went away, and I followed them—I first went to my house, and then to Waltham-green—I passed the prisoner close to the White Hart, where he was standing for a few minutes—he afterwards crossed the road and went into the urinal at the King's Head; he stooped down, put something down, and walked out to the Swan public-house first</p>
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<p>and then to the Swan tap—they are distinct; one is a beer shop, and the other a public-house—after he left he went into the watering-place again, stooped down in the same corner, walked out, and went towards London—I am certain he did not make water there either time—I kept the watering-place in sight; nobody else went in—I afterwards saw Mr. Abbott and told him to go there—I saw him go and take something up, and he brought across six bad shillings wrapped up in separate papers, and a piece of paper round the whole—I went to the Swan and then to the Swan tap—in cones
<lb/>quence of what I said the barman left the Swan tap, and I looked in the till and saw a bad shilling and some small money—I saw Abbott give the six bad shillings to the sergeant.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> You say that you heard me say, "There is four for you;" did you state any more to the Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the former examination I forgot to state that you said, "And five for you"—I followed your com
<lb/>panions, but did not see them do anything wrong—I was at the White Hart, forty feet from the urinal, and could see you put this packet there—you were in there the third of a minute—I watched you to a public-house, and a beer-shop—I was in the Swan, and saw distinctly what took place—you were the only cripple I saw in the street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you any doubt that the conversation about the four and the five took place?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not the least—when he went into the urinal he put one hand right in the corner, which drew my suspicion that he was doing something, and I kept my eye on him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">F. PIKE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see another cripple in the street?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, on the other side of the way—I asked if he was your companion, and you said "I do not know what you mean"—I said that I wanted you for passing bad money, and you said, "Me; I had no such idea."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Which was the most lame, the prisoner or the other man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The other, he had a crutch.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-53" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-53" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ABBOTT</persName> </hi>. I am a baker, of Waltham-green—on 18th July, I met Mr. Parry outside the Swan, and in consequence of what he said, I went across to the watering-place at the King's Head, and in the left corner I saw a piece of dirty paper, which I kicked, and under it was a small parcel which I took over to Mr. Parry, and found six shillings wrapped up in paper—I had seen the prisoner go into the urinal, and turn round and come out—he was brought back to the Swan tap in custody—he asked what he was charged with, and was told with passing a bad shilling—he said, "Well, I know I had one, and I know where I got it;" but afterwards he said that he did not know where he had it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I state where I took it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not in ray hearing—you said, "If it is a bad one, I know where I got it"—I could not see you after you entered the doorway, but Mr. Parry was in the middle
<hi rend="italic">of</hi> the road—I did not see you do anything wrong—I saw you searched; nothing was found on you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had Mr. Parry a better opportunity of seeing than you had?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-54" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-54" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-54" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi>. On 18th July, I met the prisoner and Pike near the Swan tap; Pike said that the prisoner had been in his house and passed a bad shilling—I took him in custody and found on him 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I fetched Mr. Croft to the station, the charge was taken, and the prisoner said that it was a bad shilling, but he knew where it was taken—Mr. Pike gave me this shilling (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-55" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-55" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-55" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LARGE</persName> </hi> (
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. found in the watering-place—I searched the prisoner and found 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 21/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper in his left waistcoat-pocket.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Was the paper Wet? I A. No; but it was greasy.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-56" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-56" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CHUBB</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, V</hi> 27). On 18th July, I was on duty at Wal
<lb/>ham green—the prisoner asked why he was detained—I told him for utter
<lb/>ing a counterfeit shilling, having other counterfeit coin in his possession—he said, "Yes, I know; and I know where I took it"—Mr. Abbott said, "Then you knew it was bad?"—the prisoner said, "If it was bad, I know where I took it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-57" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-57" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This single shilling is bad—these six are also bad, I and three of them are from the same mould as the one uttered.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> A friend of mine broke his leg, and his fellow-work
<lb/>men subscribed threepence each for him; those were the men I was speaking to; I went to them to take, the money, which amounted to 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and. instead of my saying to them, "Here are four for you," they said it to me. I went into the watering-place, and there was a cripple there tying up A surgical bandage on his leg; I passed on and bought a herring, and on coming back went in again. I then went over to the Swan and had a glass of ale; I had the money separate, as I could not spend it. I changed one shilling for a quartern of rum, and afterwards I had a glass of ale and paid with sixpence. I was going to my dinner, and the potboy tapped me on the shoulder and said, "I want you for passing bad money." I never put the money in the watering-place, and did not go there with the intention of finding it. A man who had put it there would have seen that it was gone without stooping, and would hurry away, but I did no such thing.</p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-754-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been convicted, at this court in</hi> 1861,
<hi rend="italic">when he was sentenced to one year's imprisonment; to which he</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GULTY</hi>**—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COLERIDGE</hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ANN SERJEANT</hi>. My husband keeps the Angel, at Tothill-street, Westminster—on 12th July the prisoners came in; Stroud asked for a quartern of gin—I served her—one of them required hot water, and one cold—Stroud gave me a bad half-crown; I put it in the detector—Warner then said to Stroud, "He has not given you bad, has he; you have some more?"—Stroud then gave me a second half-crown, which was bad too, and then a third, which was bad too—I gave them to the officer—they did not pay for the gin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Warner.</hi> We did not drink the gin.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> It was mixed in the water—I do not know whether you drank it.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-60" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL WALKER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, A</hi> 281). The prisoners were given into my custody with these three half-crowns—I was in uniform—I told Stroud that she need not say anything unless she liked, but that what she said would be given in evidence against her—she said that she received them from a gen
<lb/>tleman who she met once or twice a week on Westminster-bridge, who came from St. John's Wood—she afterwards said that she met him at Knights-bridge, and walked from there to Westminster with him and Warner in their company—afterwards she said, "Now, if I am going to be locked up, I will round"—both of them then burst out crying—they said that a man named
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<p>they pointed the house out, and asked me to go there, but I did not as I knew the place, and that it would be dangerous to take two prisoners then—Warner said that Stroud told her she had been with another female the previous day and got three half-crowns—I afterwards went there to look for I him—he was known there, but he was not there—he is a thief and an aaso
<lb/>ciate—nothing was found on the prisoners.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-61" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GRANT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, B</hi> 32). I took the charge—Warner told me that Stroud had been to her house the day previous and said that she could get three half-crowns for a shilling—that to enable her to do so she pawned her boots and Warner's sister's clothes, that they got the money, and went to the public-house, got the half-crowns, and had some-gin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-62" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-62" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These three half-crowns are all bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Stroud statement before the Magistrate being put in, stated that Emms Bailey promised to keep her if she would go with her, as she knew a gentleman who would advance her some money while she was ill, that Bailey went in Saturday and got six half-crowns from a gentleman in the bar of the public-house, who she said lived at St. John's-wood, but whose name she did not know—that on the Monday Bailey went again and got seven-and-sixpence, but gave her none of it—that she afterwards met Warren and her sister, and went uña them to look for a room, but not being able to find them she slept with Warren, who said she did not know how to pay her rent—that she, Stroud, told Bailey she knew a gentleman at Westminster who would advance seven shillings or eight shillings for a shilling—that Bailey told her sister about it, and they went to the place and obtained seven-and-sixpence from the gentleman, and then called for a quartern of gin. Warner says</hi>, "When Stroud went into the public-house for the money I wanted to go in too, but she would not let me; she told me to stay out and be quiet; and previous to that I asked Stroud how she obtained the money, and she told me that a gentleman gave it to her whose son had disgraced her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Stroud's Defence.</hi> I asked Warner to stay outside, and she did not know what money I received till I told her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Warner's Defence.</hi> I did not know it was bad money until she gave it to the woman of the public-house.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bank stock, the property of
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, August</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1864.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-67" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-67" type="surname" value="MARTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-67" type="given" value="SARAH ANN"/>SARAH ANN MARTIN</persName> </hi>. On 2d July I was acting as barmaid at the Three Colts, Cambridge-road, Bethual-green, kept by my uncle—the prisoner came in about 12 o'clock, and I served him with a quartern of gin; he gave me a shilling, I gave him the change, and put it in the till; there were two or three other shillings there—he drank the gin, and left—in about ten minutes he returned, and asked for more gin—I served him with a quartern, the price was fivepence—he gave me a half-crown; I put it in the till where</p>
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<p>there was no other, and gave him two shillings and a penny change, which I took from the till—I was the only person serving—shortly afterwards he said that I had given him a bad shilling—I did not know whether I bad or not, but I gave him a good one for it—I afterwards saw my barman with I the half-crown iu his hand—it was given to the policeman, and the bad shilling too.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-68" type="witnessName">
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-69" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-69" type="surname" value="ORCHARD"/>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi> August, I between 1 and 2 o'clock, I served the prisoner with some beer, and he gave me a penny in payment—he then called for some tobacco, which came to a penny, and gave me a shilling; I put it in the till among the halfpence by accident, and did not mix it with other shillings—Fordham and Mr. Richardson came in five minutes afterwards, and spoke to me, and I took the shilling from the coppers, and found it was bad—I gave it to a customer who is here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-70" type="surname" value="RICHARDSON"/>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi> August—I called him out of the bar, and charged him with uttering a counterfeit half-crown—I asked him to go inside, and explain. the matter—Mrs. Orchard charged him with uttering a bad shilling, and I gave him in custody; he was a little the worse for liquor, but knew per
<lb/>fectly well what he was about—on the way to the station he had a tussle with the constable, and threw something over the constable's head—a little boy picked it up, and I took it out of his band without losing sight of it, it was two bad half-crowns, wrapped in paper—I gave it to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-71" type="surname" value="HAT"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-71" type="given" value="PATRICK WTNW"/>PATRICK WTNW HAT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 315). I took the prisoner—on the way to the station he shook his right arm, which brought a piece of paper into the palm of his hand, I saw him throw it away, and saw it picked up—two half-crowns were then given to me—I also received a half-crown from Mr. Richardson, and a shilling from Mr. Orchard.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-72" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-72" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mint—all the coins produced are bad—one of the two wrapped up in paper is from the same mould as the one uttered—the two shillings are also bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I picked them up, and was not aware that they were bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Bowman, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MARRIOTT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended Drage.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-77" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS BLANKS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman</hi>). In November last I was on duty, and heard a noise of people quarrelling on Stamford-hill—I crossed over, and saw the three prisoners—I asked them to go quietly—it was then a quarter before 12 o'clock—Samuel Bowman said, "Who the b——y hell are you?"—I was in uniform—I told him I was a policeman, and that he would not be allowed to make that disturbance—he said, "I will knock your two. Eyes into one, you b——y sod, if you touch me"—Drage said, "That we were all a set of b——y thieves, and only joined the police to rob people"—they went</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Which one do you think it was that came behind you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Drage—I do not know that Samuel Bowman gave a person in custody for stealing some time ago—I do not know that Samuel Bowman was so much injured that for some time he was an inmate of St. Bartholomew's-hospital—I charged him with being drunk and disor
<lb/>derly, as I was not aware of the nature of my injuries—I have every reason to believe it was Drage that threw me down, because after the Magistrate came to take my deposition, Drage shook hands with me, and said that I was the first man he had ever hurt, and he was sorry for it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MARRIOTT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he not say, that if he had hart you, you were the first man he had ever hurt?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; his words were, you are the first man I ever did hurt—I assisted in taking Samuel to the station—I was not assisted there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-78" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GAZE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, N</hi> 93). I was on duty in Manor-road, Stam
<lb/>ford-hill, and heard a disturbance—I found the three prisoners drunk, and swearing and pushing one another about—Blanks, who was on the same side, said, "Now, my lads, make less noise, or you will get me into trouble"—Samuel Bowman said, "Who the b——y hell are you, you b——y pimple-eyed b—r, I will knock your two eyes into one, b—s—d, if you interfere with me"—Blanks advised him to go on quietly, and said he would not interfere with them if they did not make a noise to disturb people at that hour of the night—Drage said that we were a b——y lot of thieves, and all we joined the police for was to rob people—they all three went on for some time, and I went on to my beat—Blanks remained in a different place—after some time I heard a disturbance again, and Blanks and myself went to them, and asked them if they were going quietly—Samuel Bowman said, "I will see you b—first"—Blanks then took him in custody; he resisted violently, and the other two endeavoured to prevent his being taken—Í then went to Blanks' assistance, and in endeavouring to secure the prisoner we all fell; I lost my hold of Samuel, and he ran away some distance; I ran and caught him, and then the other two got hold of Drage as I was endeavouring to get him forward, and pushed him back, so that he should not be taken to the station—Blank got up and helped me—Lucey came up when we were on the ground, and be ran before me after the prisoners—when Wright was on the ground Alfred Bowman said, "I will kick the b——in the head"—Lucey, Wright, Blanks, and myself were able to take the prisoners to the station; they were very noisy.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you not rather violent in your language?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I did not catch hold of Samuel Bowman by the neck, and say, "Now you b——, I have got you"—Samuel Bowman had not, previous to this, given one of my division in custody, that I am aware of—I do not know a constable, named Stephens, of Tottenham, or that Samuel Bowman gave him in custody for stealing eggs—there were not thirty remands—I was away on social duty, but I gave my evidence a short time after—I swear I saw Alfred Bowman on the ground in the early part of the</p>
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<p>fray—the three prisoners and Blanks and myself were on the ground together—the prisoners left Blanks, and crossed into my beat—Blanks' beat comes to the end of mine—the prisoners came into my beat, and I went on my duty after them—they were all rolling about a good deal.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MARRIOTT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see them before Blanks saw them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he and I arrived about the same time—Blanks came to me during the assault—we all joined in the struggle—Blanks tried to arrest the Bowmans—there was a general struggle, and we were thrown, and all went down in a lump—I used no more violence than was necessary to secure the prisoners—they had marks on them afterwards where they fell—Drage had a mark across the nose caused by the fall—Lucey went with Blanks and the prisoners to the station, and I went with Drage—Blanks was able to go without assistance—I do not know whether Samuel Bow
<lb/>man was some time in the hospital.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he appear at every remand?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He did, and made no complaint of being ill.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-79" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LUCEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, N</hi> 380). I came up while the struggle was going on—Drage said that he would die before he would let Bowman go to the station—I saw him throw Blanks down—Blanks made no charge till he got to the station, when he said that he felt very sore on the left side.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it Drage and Blanks that fell together?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; Drage fell on top of Blanks.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MARRIOTT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> At what time did you come up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Twenty minutes past 12—that was my time to be at the end of my beat, which is at Stamford-hill—I heard the disturbance a great way off, and found them on their feet struggling—I took no part in the struggle at that time—I was not thrown down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-80" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WRIGHT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, N</hi> 250). I came up while the struggle was going on, and saw Drage holding Samuel Bowman—I told him to leave go; he said that he would not, and he would die before his mate should be taken to the station—I pulled him away; he struck me on the breast, caught hold of me, threw me backwards, and kicked my knee—the three prisoners were drunk.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-81" type="given" value="WILLIAM ROBERT"/>WILLIAM ROBERT WOODMAN</persName> </hi>, M.D. On 6th January I took the case of the injured man from Mr. James, who has since died—he was handed over to me as a case that was likely to die; his ribs had been seriously broken, and there were injuries about the pleura; he was in very great danger of his life when I first saw him—he is still in a very weakly condition—I account for it by his ribs being broken—it must have been done with great violence, a kick or a direct blow.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MARRIOTT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Could the blow be caused by a Tall?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I imagine not, and I conferred with two medical men who saw him when he was worst.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Could you judge with an injury of six weeks old upon him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; from the state of the membranes of the pleura, which were very much injured, I could form an opinion that some vio
<lb/>lence had been done to that membrane, but the ribs had then united.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GIFFARD</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">The evidence of Thomas Blanks, William Gaze, John Lucey, and John Wright, in the last case, was read over to them, to which they assented. The prisoners received good characters.</hi> </p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-87" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-87" type="given" value="CHARLES VAN"/>CHARLES VAN GOOR</persName> </hi>. I keep the Dorset Arms, Whitefriars—the prisoner came in and bought a pie—after she left, I found a bad half-crown in the till, but cannot say whether I received it—two or three nights afterwards, and about a fortnight before she was given in custody, the prisoner came again, and tendered me a crown—I suspected it was bad, and told her to take it elsewhere and get it changed—I cannot say whether it was bad or not—I was alone in the bar—on 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> August she came again, but my wife attended to her then—on the Tuesday following, she came again, and I served her with a portion of a pie, which came to twopence—she gave me a bad half-crown—I said, "This is the fourth time you have been here offering bad money; where do you live?"—she said, "In Cray's-inn-road"—I said, "You take a deal of pains
<hi rend="italic">to come</hi> that distance to rob me," and gave her in charge with the half-crown—she said that she was an unfortunate girl, and a gentleman gave it to her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> You could not say whether the five-shilling piece was bad, because you did not take it out of my hand.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> You gave it into my hand, and you acknowledged to the constable that it was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-88" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-88" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-88" type="given" value="TERESA VAN"/>TERESA VAN GOOR</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—the prisoner gave me a bad half-crown for some pie and a glass of ale on the Saturday three weeks before she was given in custody—I put it in the till, and gave her the change—it was very late, and the till had been cleared—after she left, I found it was bad—it was the only half-crown there—my husband broke it in two and threw it away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> You told the constable that it was 3 o'clock in the afternoon?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That was on the second occasion, when you bad the same quantity of pie—a poor man standing at the counter gave you the change, and I gave you fourpence out—the man brought the half-crown back afterwards, and said that it was bad—I was not aware of it, because he took it up immediately.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-89" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-89" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE KING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>). On 2d August, the prisoner was given into my custody—she said that she was an unfortunate girl, and received the coin from a gentleman—she was searched at the station, and I saw sixpence, a penny, and a farthing produced in good money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-90" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-crown is bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> The half-crown was given me by a gentleman. The good sixpence was found in a portion of my dress. I had lost it, and did not know that I had it, or I should have made use of it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROWDEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TAYLOR</hi>
<hi rend="italic">defended
<hi rend="smallCaps">O'BRIEN</hi>.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-94" type="given" value="ISAAC BENJAMIN"/> ISAAC BENJAMIN ELKIN</persName> </hi>. I am a merchant, of 14, Surrey-street, Strand—on the night of 19th July, I was in Endell-street, near Sharp's-gardens—there is a urinal there a little way down—I saw the prisoner standing at the corner before I went in, and as I came out, two other men rushed up to me and stopped me, and at the same moment, O'Brien put his hand at the</p>
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<p>back of my coat and cut my watch-guard—King then took my watch and chain—the other two men put their hands before my eyes, so that I should not recognise them, but none of them struck me—my watch was in my waistcoat pocket—I have not seen it since.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Has your memory improved since you were at the Police-court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I knew when I was there what each man did—the men
<hi rend="italic">fanned</hi> me with their hands—I was quite sober—nothing was said—I called "Police!"—I can tell King, because he is a tall man—he was behind me, and I turned round and saw him—it was a very momentary glance—I was taken to the Police-court, and picked out these two prisoners—Sergeant Ackrill and the inspector were present—I did not pick out a man who they told me was a policeman in plain clothes—there were nine or ten in a room, and I was told that one of them was a policeman in plain clothes, bat I do not know him now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">King. Q.</hi> You said at the Police-court that you could not swear to me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I said that I was certain it was you, but that I would not swear to you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROWDKN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was there a lamp just over the urinal?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yea—I have not the least doubt of the prisoner King being the man.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-95" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LAWRENCE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, F</hi> 97). On the night of 19th July, I was on duty in plain clothes in Endell-street, near the corner of Short's-gardens, and heard a cry of "Police!" "Stop thief!" at about twenty minutes to 12 o'clock—I ran up, and saw the prosecutor—I saw two men run down Short's gardens, and saw the prisoners run down Brownlow-street, across Drury-lane, into Charles-street, where I lost them—I hare known them standing about the coal-yard for the last four months—I had not seen them that evening—I have no doubt that they are two of the men who ran away from the
<hi rend="italic">King.</hi> At the station, when Ackrill said, "Do you know him?" you said, "No."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I said that you were the two men I followed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-96" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BURGESS</persName> </hi>. I live at 23, Short's-gardens, and sweep the urinal there—on 19th July, near 12 o'clock, I was in the urinal—I saw the prisoner and two more men standing at the corner of Endell-street and Short's-gardens—the prosecutor came in, and as soon as he went out he was attacked by the four men at the corner, and his watch and chain taken from him by O'Brien—he was assisted by one who is not here, and King went behind and helped him—I heard the prosecutor call "Police" distinctly—I am sure the prisoners are the men.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">King. Q.</hi> At the Police-court next morning, did you pick out a constable in private clothes?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; but he was something similar to the party who was with you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROWDEN</hi>. Did you pick him out for one of the others?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; but I am certain of these two men—one of the others who escaped was dressed very similar to what the constable was.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-97" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ACKRILL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police-sergeant, F</hi> 15). I received information of the robbery, and on the next night went out, and saw the prisoners standing at the top of the coal-yard, and heard them say, "Beef it, Ackrill is coming"—they know me pretty well in that neighbourhood—"Beef it" means, "run away"—I ran down the Coal-yard, and a man ran up against me—the prisoners went into a court, and I lost them—I went out two or three other nights; and on the 22
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>, about half-past 4 in the morning, I found the prisoners in bed together, at a coffee-shop in the Coal-yard—I told them I should take them for an assault, and stealing a watch from a</p>
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<p>gentleman in Endell-street on Tuesday last—they said they knew nothing about it, and they should not come out—I said that they should, and go assistance—they said, "All right, we will go quietly with you; give us fat play"—I took them to the station, and about 9 o'clock next morning place them among nine or ten other men, and the prosecutor picked them out and Burgess also, separately.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">King's Defence.</hi> I stand about Drury-lane; and because this witness happens to know me, he takes me. As for the crossing-sweeper, he is only doing it for the witness's money, for I am told that he was not there at the time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">O'BRIEN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-761-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">KING</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-761-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with having been before convicted at Westminster, in April</hi>, 1860;
<hi rend="italic">to which he</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>.**—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-761-18640815 t18640815-761-punishment-16"/>Seven Years Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> [
<hi rend="italic">A list of fourteen convictions was produced against King.</hi>]</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The following prisoners</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>:</p>
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<hi rend="italic">after a previous conviction,—
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<hi rend="italic">Confined Eight Months.</hi> </rs>
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<p>766.
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-766-18640815 t18640815-766-punishment-21"/>Seven Years' Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, August</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1864.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Byles.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-767-offence-1 t18640815-name-110"/>Henry Bowen</persName>. She was also charged on the Coroner's inquisition with the like murder.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MONTAGUE WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ORRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-111" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-111" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-111" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I live at the Clerkenwell Workhouse, and am nurse in the Lying-in Ward there—on 16th July the prisoner came there—she came in in labour between 8 and 9 in the evening—she was confined at a quarter post 10 that same night of a male child—it was born alive—the prisoner left the workhouse on Saturday, 30th July—the child remained with her all that time from its birth—she was a very good mother, very food of her baby—she left the workhouse about 10 o'clock on the 30th as near as I can guess; I do not know whether the clock bad struck 10 or not—the baby was in a healthy state when she took it away—I have since seen the body of a child at the inquest—I only recognized it as the prisoner's child by a little bit of hair at the top of the head, the nose was so much swollen—I have seen the clothing that was found—they were the clothes that I gave the prisoner to put on the baby when she left the workhouse with the child—these are the clothes (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You told us that during the fortnight the prisoner</p>
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<p>was at the workhouse she behaved exceedingly kindly to the child?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I never had a better patient; she behaved as well as a mother could to a child—I saw her writing on the Friday afternoon or evening—I did not post a letter for her; I took one down to the gate for her; I think there were two letters that I gave to a woman to post—I don't recollect whether I took down one or two—I heard her read out the lower part of the letter, in which she said she wrote for a bottle of gin, and that she had lived on the fat of the land, and she should turn her nose up at anything common when she came home—she told us what she had said—that was in the letter she wrote on the Friday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you remember what was said about the gin?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; she said she had written for her friend to get a bottle of gin—I do not remember her saying anything about the state of her health—I do not remember anything stated in that letter with regard to the state of her health.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-112" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-112" type="surname" value="SCROOBY"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-112" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA SCROOBY</persName> </hi>. I did live at the Harrison's Arms public-house, Grays-inn-road, but I have since left—I was servant there in July last—on Saturday morning, 30th July, I remember seeing the prisoner come into the house; about half-past 10 o'clock, as near as I can say—I noticed that she had a parcel—I did not notice how she was carrying it, but somehow in front of her—she had it in her arms—she went into the parlour—she asked my mistress for some gin and water—I took it to her in the parlour—I did not wait while she drank it; I came away—I afterwards had to go to the parlour to clean the door, and she asked me if I would shut the door while she fastened her drawers—I shut the door and came out—I did not stay in the room—I fastened the door; I mean I shut it—there is a fastening to the door both outside and inside—I came out and shut the door after me—about five minutes after the door had been shut the prisoner came out—she went right out of the house—I did not notice whether she had the same or any parcel with her then—on my going into the parlour again I noticed some soot on the hob of the fire-place—that was not above three or four minutes after the prisoner had gone out—I had cleaned the stove that morning before she came in—in consequence of seeing the soot there I pushed open the door of the register—I saw something there—I made a communication to the potman—I did not see him take what was there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When you left the room and shut her in where did you go?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Into the kitchen—the kitchen is not many steps from the parlour; three or four steps, on the same floor; you have to turn round—she remained there about five minutes without my being there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-113" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-113" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-113" type="surname" value="TALBOT"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-113" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY TALBOT</persName> </hi>. I am a porter, and live at 53, Harrison-street, Grays-inn-road—on Saturday, 30th July, about 12 o'clock at noon, I went into the Harrison's Arms to get change—the potman made a communication to me—in consequence of what he said I went to the chimney of the bar-parlour—I looked up and saw something there which had been placed up there—I pulled it down with great difficulty, it was placed up so tight—I did not open it—I brought it down—it felt quite warm in my hands, and I laid it gently on the stove—it was the body of a child—the head and shoulders and arms and part of the body was quite naked—it had nothing on it—the upper part of the body was quite naked—it was not covered with paper when I brought it down—there was no paper over the arms, shoulders, or head—there was a small piece of cotton or something of that kind which tied the two legs close up round the body or waist—it went round the middle, and was</p>
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<p>fastened round the waist—I saw no paper, only what was in the stove—some loose paper was in the stove—it was not round the child.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was the piece of calico that you describe a shift, or shirt, or anything of that kind?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, it was a square piece apparently; not a bandage—there was no string to it—it was tied by the comers I should imagine—the child sat in it as it were—the paper that was in the stove was paper put in there merely to fill the stove up, I think—it might have been round the body, but that I did not see.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was there any paper round the body when you took it down?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-114" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-114" type="surname" value="HUBBARD"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-114" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HUBBARD</persName> </hi>. I am potman at the Harrison's Arms—I saw the last witness take the body of a child out of the chimney—I made a communica
<lb/>tion, and was with the policeman when he took the prisoner—I followed her into Hunter-street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-115" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-115" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK WHITE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, E</hi> 33). About a quarter-past 12 on the Saturday in question some persons from the Harrison's Arms spoke to me as I was on duty in Hunter-street—I accompanied the last witness until we came up with the prisoner in Hunter-street—I asked her if she had been it the Harrison's Arms—she said, "Yes"—I turned round to Hubbard and asked him in the prisoner's presence if the child was dead, and the prisoner made answer and said, "Yes, it is dead"—I took her to the police-station—on the way to the station she said she was very sorry she had done it; she wished she had taken it to the workhouse and got it buried—that was said immediately after I took her in Hunter-street—she was given in charge by Hubbard—I charged her at the station with murdering the child—I told the inspector that she had been putting a child up the chimney, and it was quite dead—she did not say anything then—when the charge was read over to her she said that she did not kill it—the body of the child was given into my possession by one of the witnesses—I did not see it afterwards examined by Mr. Paul—I saw him look at it—the prisoner was not searched in my presence—Mr. Paul searched her—I was not present when anything was taken from her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How far was the place where you took her into custody from the Harrison's Arms?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Between 300 and 400 yards—when I asked the potman if the child was dead the prisoner herself made answer that it was dead.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-116" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-116" type="surname" value="PRIOR"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-116" type="given" value="CATHERINE"/>CATHERINE PRIOR</persName> </hi>. I am an inmate of Clerkenwell workhouse—I was lying-in there on Friday, 29th July—I was not there when the prisoner was first brought in—I remember her being there—I remember her going away on the Saturday morning—on the Friday evening before that I saw her writing—it was after tea—this is the letter I saw her writing—she read the last part of the letter to me—it was something about some gin that her friends were going to bring her; that she had lived on the fat of the land in the workhouse, and she should turn up her nose at anything common—she went by the name of Annie Bowen in the workhouse.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know her handwriting?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, quite well—she directed a letter for me on the Saturday morning, when she wrote that letter—(
<hi rend="italic">Letter read:</hi> "To Mrs. Jacobs. July 29, 1864. Friday—Dear Jane, I received your letter, and I am very glad to hear the child is gone; it is better off. I am also happy to tell you that mine is gone, so as I am empty handed I shall come out to-morrow (Saturday), though I am not very well; but if mine had lived I should have stayed in another week or two, for I don't believe I shall be able to walk. I shall be obliged to ride up by the</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186408150029"/>
<p>Under-ground, so that if you are out on Sunday I hope you will call, and pray don't forget the gin, for I am in a very delicate state of health at pre
<lb/>sent, and after living on the fat of the land in the workhouse for a fortnight I shall turn up my nose at anything common. Tell Charles I should have been extremely obliged to him for his kind offer, only there is a family grave dug at Colney Hatch fur my son; so, as I hope to see you soon, I shall close with my kindest love to you both, from your's truly, A. Bowen").</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say that she read to you the last part of the letter that she wrote that afternoon?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I am not sure it was the last part—she did not write any more after she read that to me—all she read to me was about the gin, and living on the fat of the land—I was in the same room with her—I slept in the next bed to her—she wrote a letter to her sister-in-law that same morning, and she directed one for me at the same time, and the one she wrote after tea she said she would post herself on the Saturday morning, and that is the letter—I saw her direct the letter she wrote—I can read and write—I asked her to direct my letter because I am not a very good writer—I had written the letter myself—I saw her direct this letter—I was sitting at the table nursing her baby—I read the address—I saw it on the table—the address was No. 11, Wellington-terrace, Wel
<lb/>lington-road, St. John's wood—I was in the same ward with her all the day—she behaved very kindly indeed to the child.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you remember the name of the person to whom the letter was addressed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mrs. Jacobs.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Look at that envelope; was that how the letter was directed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; the letter that she wrote to her sister-in-law and the one she directed for me were posted by one of the inmates of the work-house—the nurse of the ward (Taylor) said she would take them down and give them to one of the old ladies to poet—the prisoner did not give any particular reason for posting the letter to Mrs. Jacob's herself—she said they were coming to see her on Sunday—I have seen the body of the child.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-117" type="surname" value="PAUL"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-117" type="given" value="JAMES THOMAS"/>JAMES THOMAS PAUL</persName> </hi>. I am a member of the Royal College of Surgeons of England—I was called to see the deceased child on Saturday, 30th July, at half-past 12 in the afternoon—it was a male child—I saw it at the police-station in Hunter-street—it was dead—the body was warm—I should say it had not been dead an hour—I made a post-mortem examination of the body on the following morning—the body was covered with soot—there were no marks of violence externally; but on removing the scalp I found extravasa
<lb/>tion of blood beneath it—there was soot on the legs—from the external appearance of the body it was a well-nourished child—I found very great congestion of the brain—I could not form any notion as to how long that congestion had existed—there was a small quantity of serum in the ven
<lb/>tricles of the brain, about a couple of tea-spoonfuls I think—there was con
<lb/>gestion of the lungs—the right side of the heart was full of blood—the left side was empty, or nearly so—the stomach contained a small quantity of food, probably milk—there was no smell or appearance whatever of poison of any kind—the liver was also congested—the cause of death was congestion of blood in the heart, lungs, and brain, caused by suffocation, the want of fresh air being admitted into the lungs; asphyxia—when I went into the station-house the prisoner commenced to tear up and destroy everything, and I was obliged to take the things away from her to prevent her—I did not search her—she attempted to destroy all the papers and clothes that she had got about her—there was a whole set of baby's clothes sewn on the inside of her petticoat—these are them (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—there was a child's</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="186408150030"/>
<p>napkin wet and dirty, as if it had been recently used—I found this notice to get the child vaccinated, and this letter and envelope, it was in her pocket—she took it from her pocket and I snatched it from her hand—she was commencing to tear it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You stated that the death was from suffocation, and you added, "from want of fresh air?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That is suffocation—I under
<lb/>stood you by your question to question that theory—there was no mark of violence round the throat, or any compression of the lips or nostrils—I examined the mouth to see if there was any substance there to cause suf
<lb/>focatiou—I passed my finger down—I found nothing—there was extravasation of blood under the scalp—the prisoner was not excited when I examined her, she was very cool—she tried to tear up what she could—I do not consider that she was excited at that time—she tore them up deliberately before me—she tore up the notice of vaccination—when I saw her tearing it up I snatched it from her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Look at that torn paper and say where she would have to go to get the child vaccinated?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> To No. 5, Clerkenwell-close—the Harrison's Arms would not be between the workhouse and Clerkenwell-close.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. WILLIAMS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were there any marks on any part of the child's face?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Nothing but soot—I did not notice any marks on the nose.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows:</hi>—"All that I have to say is that the child was dead when I went into the Harrison's Arms. It was half-past 11 when I went in."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-118" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-118" type="surname" value="RENYARD"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-118" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES RENYARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Police inspector, E</hi>). I was present at the inquest held before Dr. Lankester on the body of the prisoner's child—I was present when the prisoner made her statement—I do not remember whether she was sworn as a witness—not being called upon to give evidence before the Coroner, I did not take particular notice of what she said—I remember her saying that she did not kill the child—I heard her say the child had been subject to pains in the night—she mentioned spasms for one thing, and that she had called the nurse several times during the time she had been in the workhouse in consequence of the spasms—she said the child was dead before she put it in the chimney.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did she say what time it was that she went into the Harrison's Arms?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; about half-past 11.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did she say that the child was troubled with windy spasms, and she had often called the nurse and said she was afraid the child would choke?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> She did—she said that as she came along she heard the child choking—after she had made that statement the nurse was called.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ORRIDGE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHARLES HUBBARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you at once go out into the street after what the servant of the house told you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I went into the parlour and saw the child, and then I went out into the street—I think it was about three or four minutes afterwards that I found the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you touch the body of the child?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it was wet and warm—I should think it was the legs that I touched—there had not been a fire in that room since I had been there—I went there about three months ago.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ELIZA TAYLOR</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are there more nurses than one in the ward in which the prisoner was?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; only myself, no others—there are other nurses in the workhouse, in other wards—the prisoner never com
<lb/>plained to me that the child had spasms—she never complained of anything of the sort, neither did the baby have them—she never complained—I do not remember her complaining to me.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ORRIDGE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How many slept in the ward where she slept?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At that time I believe there were seven—I have had two or three since she has been away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Can you remember when you last saw the child?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> When she left the ward; I saw her go, carrying the child—I am sure the child was alive then—another witness saw it as well—it was alive and well as far as I saw.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the child dressed when you last saw it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; she dressed it herself in the house clothes that I gave her—she washed and dressed it herself that morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see her doing it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; by the fire—I had to go down to the doctor's and left her there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAUL.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> </hi> Was the napkin among the clothes that she had?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That was found in her pocket separately—there was only one set of clothes—the child would have to be taken to be vaccinated before it was four months' old.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is it possible, in your opinion, that the child might have been smothered, either intentionally or unintentionally, without any marks of violence being on the body?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Decidedly; the child could have been smothered intentionally or unintentionally without any marks of violence remaining.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury on the ground that she had been a good mother to the child up to the time of her leaving the work-house.</hi> </rs>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LAXTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. MONTAGUE WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-121" type="surname" value="ROBERTSON"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-121" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ROBERTSON</persName> </hi>. I am a Greengrocer, at 86, Milton-street, City—on Sunday night, 31st July, about half-past 11, I was sitting at my own door, which is about twenty yards from Sun-court, I saw a lot of people collected a few yards lower down—I stepped out into the road to see what was the matter, and saw the prisoner and deceased preparing to fight—I can't say whether that was the beginning of it, they might have been fighting before—I heard nothing said—a scuffle ensued, and in the next round the prisoner struck the deceased a tremendous blow in the face—I never saw a blow struck like it—the force of the blow sent the man to the ground imme
<lb/>diately—he fell on the kerb or on the stones—the prisoner was in a des
<lb/>perate rage, and he made at least two efforts to get at the deceased while he was on the ground—I knew the deceased very well by sight—he laid on the ground some minutes, quite senseless to all appearance—he was carried off—the whole that I saw occupied about ten minutes.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You say it appeared to you, not as if it was the commencement of the fight, but a round in a fight?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I should imagine there had been some altercation previously—I did not see the deceased come up and strike the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-122" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-122" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BOLT</persName> </hi>. I am a coach plater, of 2, Broad Arrow-court, Milton-street—I was in Milton-street on 31st July, about twenty minutes to 12—there was a mob of people collected—I went over and saw the prisoner strike the deceased and knock him down—his friends picked him up and carried him away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-123" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LENSKEY</persName> </hi>. I live in Sun-court, Milton-street—on Sunday, 31st July,</p>
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<p>I was standing at the end of the court in Milton-street—the prisoner came up and was talking so me and four others for a few minutes—Coney came up the street looking rather wildish—I asked him what was the matter—he said that two or three persons at the top of the street were going to hit him—I said, "Do you know them?"—he did not answer—Collins turned round and said, "Don't you know them?"—"Yes," he says, to Collins," You know them well"—they had two or three words after that, and Coney hit Collins in the jaw—Collins returned it, and hit him with both hands—they bad hold of one another, and Collins went down first—they rolled over one another on the road—they then got up and began to hit one another again, then Collins threw Coney down—I went between them to part them as well as I could, but I could not keep them away from one another—I laid hold of Coney to keep him away—they went at it again, and Collins caught him round the hips and threw him, and the bock of his head came against the stones—he was not able to move after that—he was carried in doors.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> It was the deceased who first struck Collins in the jaw?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; after they were parted the deceased insisted on renewing the fight—they were just alike as to that—they agreed to fight.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see anything more than a fair fight between them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> All I saw was what I have told—I can't call it a fair fight, because they did not challenge one another to fight.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-124" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD DON</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Mason—on Wednesday afternoon 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> August, I was called in to see the deceased—he complained of spitting of blood—he was quite rational and sensible—I gave him the usual remedes—I did not observe any bruises about him—in the evening he got worse, and I advised his removal to the hospital.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Might the spitting of blood be caused by the rupture of a vessel, from over-excitement?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Very likely; or it might have been from the lungs.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-125" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-125" type="given" value="BOWATER JOHN"/>BOWATER JOHN VERNON</persName> </hi>. I am house-surgeon at St. Bartholomew's hospital—the deceased was brought there late at night on 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> August—I attended upon him—he was quite insensible, and in convulsions—he re
<lb/>mained insensible, with all the symptoms of inflammation of the brain until he died on the morning of the 5th; he was in convulsions the whole time—there were some large bruises upon his left cheek and round his left eye, and some bruises on the back of his head, and other bruises about various parts of his body—I examined his body after death—his brain, and the membranes of his brain, were very much inflamed, and the base of the skull on the right side was fractured—the inflammation was caused by that frac
<lb/>ture—a severe fall on the back of the head would be the most likely thing to cause that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Inflammation of the brain may also be caused by drink, may it not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I should think not in a healthy subject, or a man of his age; sudden excitement would not do it—I never heard of a case of inflammation of the brain caused by excessive drink, not inflamma
<lb/>tion of this kind.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners statement before the Magistrate:</hi>—"No more to say than he (Collins) came up and struck me, and knocked me down in the road. He laid hold of my jacket, and tore it down here, and he got his hand there, tearing my things. I threw him down. That is all I have got to say."</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-126" type="given" value="MARK"/>MARK RYAN</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer—on Monday, 1st August, the prisoner came up to me and one or two more, and said he had given a man a jolly good hiding last night, that lived in Sun-court, Milton-street, and he went</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BEST</hi>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-129" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD LANKSTON</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer—I knew the deceased, John East—on 30th July I was waling with him down Richard's-place, Haggerstone; it is a court between six and seven feet wide, with houses on one side and a dead wall on the other—the prisoner was sitting on the pavement by the house No. 5, with a child in his lap, and his legs straight across the footway; there was room for one person to pass without touching his legs, but not for two—the deceased and I were going along side by side, and the deceased kicked against the prisoner's legs—the prisoner said something, but I don't know what—the deceased said, "Why don't you take your feet up out of the way; I did not see them"—we walked on three or four yards, I looked round and saw the prisoner coming behind East, with his right hand like this and he struck him at the side of the right ear—I am quite sure I saw that—it knocked him down; he fell with his knees and head into the wall, not flat down—the wall struck his right eye—I picked him up; he was bleeding very much from over the eye—he walked to Mr. Greenwood's with my assistance; he was not at home—I then took him to Mr. Sykes'; he was not at home and he was at last taken to St. Bartholomew's hospital—he was quite sober, and quite sensible when he was walking with me, and appeared in good health—he was about fifty years of age—he died on the Wednesday.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> The deceased stumbled over the prisoner's legs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I saw no one but the prisoner and the child in the passage; I dad not see Henry Carter there, nor anyone else—I did not hear the prisoner coming up behind us, but I looked round and saw him—I don't think the deceased looked round—we were walking, not running—I am quite sure I saw the blow struck.</p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-130" type="given" value="BOWATER JOHN"/>BOWATER JOHN VERNON</persName> </hi>. I am house-surgeon at St. Bartholomew's hospital—the deceased was brought there on 30th July; he walked in with the last witness—the was quite sensible—he was bleeding very much from some wound on the right side of his forehead—he was admitted into the hospital—he made a statement to me—erysipelas came on on the Monday, and he died on the 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi> August—he complained to me of the back of his head, just behind the right ear—when I made the post-mortem examination I looked at that part, but I discovered no marks of injury—his face and head were so swollen with the erysipelas that I could not have done so—there was nothing internally; there was no injury to the brain—there was a small wound just over the right eyebrow, and above it the skin of the forehead was torn away from the scalp, and hung down over his eye—I could not say from which the erysipelas sprang; they were both inflicted at the same time—I imagine that his head was struck with some blunt instrument, and then the skin of the forehead was torn down—the whole of the skin was torn—a blow or a fall against a wall would produce such injuries.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness for the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-131" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE MELTON. I</persName> </hi> live at 2, Richard's place, Haggerstone—on Satur
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<p>the two men come along; the tallest one kicked
<hi rend="italic">Ned</hi> Fowle—he said, "What are you doing?" and he turned back and kicked him again—he was then going along, and Fowle got up and wanted to bit him as he turned round and fell against the wall—I saw no blow struck.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did the man fall down very quickly?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, all in a moment—I saw him hit his head against the wall—I saw him bleeding when he got up.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-132" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY CARTER</persName> </hi>. I am a plasterer at Haggerstone—on Saturday, 30th July, I was in Richard's-place, I saw the prisoner there sitting on the pave
<lb/>ment, with his back against the door-post, nursing a child—I saw the deceased come up—he kicked the prisoner's legs—the prisoner said, "Holloa, governor, what are you doing of, what are you kicking me for?"—the deceased, who was walking away, turned round again and deliberately kicked his legs, saying," Take your b——forks (or stocks) out of the way"—I went to the door as soon as the prisoner put the child out of his arms, and I saw the deceased in the act of turning round, as if he had locked his legs, trying to extricate himself, and he fell against the wall—he appeared to right himself, and walked deliberately up to the house where the prisoner had been sitting—I saw no blood till he came opposite the door—I saw no blow struck by the prisoner.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you ever before see a man fall down by twisting his own legs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I saw the prisoner put the child out of his arms and go towards the deceased—I was standing against the door where the prisoner started from, No. 5—I don't know that I ever fell by twisting my legs together; I have seen other persons do so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. VERNON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When did the erysipelas come on?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the second day; it began at the wound, and extended over the head and neck—it may come on sometimes without a wound; there was no evidence of any injury at the back of the head where he complained of pain.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-135" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN TUHY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of James Tuhy, of 168, Brick-lane, and am the mother of the deceased child, George William Tuhy—he was not quite four years old—on Monday, 11th July, about half-past 5 o'clock, I sent him downstairs, with a slice of bread and butter, to sit at the step of the door—I sent his brother, seven years old, with him—in about two seconds I heard screams—I went into the street, and saw my child in Mrs. Myers' arms, wounded—I took it to Mr. Gayton's, the surgeon's, and it died there in my arms in about five or six minutes.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-136" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GAYTON</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, at 85, Brick-lane—on the evening of Monday, 11th July, about half-past 5, some one brought the child to my sur
<lb/>gery; it was in a state of coma—it had been run over at the spine, and there was likewise concussion of the brain—it died within ten minutes, from the injuries; they might have been caused by the wheel of a cart passing over it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-137" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MONK</persName> </hi>. I live at 27, Tent-street, Bethnal-green—on Monday evening, 11th July, about half-past 5, I was in Brick-lane, and saw a cart coming along the road—just after I had passed it I heard a scream, looked round, and saw a child in the act of being knocked down by the horse, and the wheel of the cart went over it; the prisoner was driving the cart—it had a cask of sugar, a chest of tea, and other goods in it—I did not see the</p>
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<p>cart till after the child was knocked down, and can't say at what pace it was going—the prisoner sat on the fore part of the cart, the" fore-ladder," I believe it is called—I saw a lady pick up the child.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-138" type="given" value="RACHEL"/>RACHEL MYERS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Benjamin Myers, and live at 43, Hun
<lb/>tingdon-street, Kingsland-road—on Monday evening, 11th July, about half-past 5, I was coming through Brick-lane; I saw two little children; one had stepped off the kerb, the other had not—I saw a cart coming along very fast—I screamed—the driver took no notice; it was the prisoner—the horse knocked the child down, and the wheel of the cart went direct over it—I went and picked up the child, and gave it to its mother.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I ran up to the woman and said I was very sorry for it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> He did not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-139" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GILL</persName> </hi>. I live at 28, Thomas-street, Bethnal-green—on 11th July, about half-past 5, I was in Brick-lane, and saw the prisoner
<hi rend="italic">whacking</hi> his horse with the handle of an old whip—when I got to the Two Brewers public-house, I saw the horse knock the child down and run over it—Mrs. Myers picked it up—I should think he was going at the rate of eight or nine miles an hour—he was sitting on the copes of the cart, not inside it—it was loaded—the copes project over the shafts, over the horse's back—he was sitting on one side—I saw the child before it was ran over; it just stepped off the pavement into the road—the big one left it and ran back, and the other ran on and was knocked down—I heard Mrs. Myers scream out before it was run over, and so did I—I don't think the prisoner had strength to pull up—both the children appeared frightened—the prisoner pulled up about thirty or forty yards from the place.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> The horse was over twenty years old, and could not go more than four or five miles an hour.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> It was a horse big enough for a town-cart, about fourteen hands high, I said, but the Coroner said it was not—there was no thong to the prisoner's whip—he was not hitting the horse when he ran over the child; that was before—I did not see anybody with him—after the cart was stopped a young
<hi rend="italic">chap</hi> like a carman came up, and said there were some of his goods in the cart—I should say the prisoner was not able to manage the horse—he had not strength to pull up—I am a painter and decorator—I have lived with persons that kept horses, and have ridden behind them—I know whether a horse is going fast or slow—this was going much faster than cabs go.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-140" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-140" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-140" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BROWN</persName> </hi>. I live at 87, Brick-lane—on Monday evening, 11th July, about half-past 5, I was looking out of my window, and saw the cart driven by the prisoner coming down Brick-lane—he was going very fast; as near as I can say, about nine miles an hour—he was sitting on this front of the cart, and beating the horse with a whip-handle—I saw the child when the woman screamed—I did not see it leave its own door—the prisoner was going very fast—if he had been a man instead of a boy, I think it quite possible that he might have pulled up—there were one or two boxes in the cart—it is a straight road.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-141" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-141" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM FLAHEY</persName> </hi>. I live at 167, Brick-lane—I did not see the child run over—I came out on hearing the screams, and went after the prisoner—I told him he ought to know better than to run over the child—he said they could do nothing with him, he was driving for the rail.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was going with a few things to the Eastern Counties railway. I was sitting on the side of the cart; I was in a hurry—it was behind time—to get to the Eastern Counties railway; if you don't get there a little before 6 the gates are shut. I was trying to get my goods in as</p>
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<p>quick as possible—the rate the horse was going was about three or four miles an hour. The child ran all of a sudden underneath the cart. I heard the people scream, and I jumped off the cart and ran to the woman that had the child in her arms, and said I was very sorry for doing it. I have been driving a good many years, and it is the first accident I ever had. I hope you will forgive me this time, and I will be very careful for the future. My master can give me a character.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's master gave him a good character.</hi> </p>
<p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, August</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1864.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant.</hi> </p>
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<rs id="t18640815-771-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18640815-771-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-771-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="robbery"/>, Robbery on
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-143" type="surname" value="DAVIS"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-143" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-771-offence-1 t18640815-name-143"/>William Davis</persName>, and stealing from his person 1 bag and 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money, his property.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROWDEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Conducted the Prosecution and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PATER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-144" type="surname" value="DAVIS"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-144" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I am a conductor, in the service of the London General Omnibus Company—on 29th June, about fifteen minutes past 11 at night, I was standing by my omnibus, which was standing still in Sloane-square, and was going to make a memorandum—I had a strap over my shoulder, and a bag containing about twenty-nine shillings, the property of the company—I was just going to put the pencil to my book when the prisoner, who I had never seen before, came in front of me and said, "You b—"—I looked up, and he gave me a bump on the nose—I told him to go away, and another person came up with a flannel-jacket on, and three or four others with him—I went backwards with the first blow, and the man in the flannel
<lb/>jacket said, "If you do not leave him alone, I will give you a b——crack in the eye"—the prisoner then gave me a second blow—it did not knock me down, but I was dragged into the road and knocked down by the prisoner and the others, and the prisoner kicked me three or four times in the face when I was down—when I got up my bag and money was gone, and they had all decamped—my coachman found a hat, and I went over to the pump to wash my face—the prisoner came back to look for his cap a quarter of an hour afterwards, and I pointed him out to the police.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Before you received the blow had you seen the prisoner on the kerb?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I had not pulled up three minutes—I did not push the prisoner before he struck me, but when he came up the second time, I knocked him in the eye, and sent him by the side of the
<hi rend="italic">bus</hi>—I dare say I am the more powerful man of the two—when he came from under the
<hi rend="italic">bus</hi> again, I did not hit him again—no one interfered in consequence of the maltreatment he was suffering, but one of his companions said that if I did not leave him alone, he would give me a b——smash on the eye—the prisoner then ran at me again and struck me, and I hit him again—there were ten or twelve people round—it was at the Star and Garter—the strap of my bag was under ray coat, which was buttoned at the top—I am certain I had the bag on, because I had just put a passenger's fare into it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROWDEN.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> </hi> Had you pushed the prisoner before he struck you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; the strap must have been cut, and then the bag would drop—I looked about, but could not find it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-145" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-145" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-145" type="surname" value="FAULKENER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-145" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FAULKENER</persName> </hi>. I was the driver of this omnibus—I saw an alterca
<lb/>tion as I got down, and saw the prisoner, and others, as I turned the omnibus round—it is usual for me to get down there—I saw the prisoner kick the conductor most brutally—there were three others besides him—I found I</p>
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<p>could not assist him in any shape or form as three ruffians were kicking him most brutally while he was on his back in the road—the prisoner was one of them—I shouted "Police!" as loud as I could, and the prisoner knocked me on the jaw, and knocked me down on my back—he and others kicked me, and his cap fell off as I raised my hand to save my face from the kick—I put it in my pocket, and they all ran away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see the commencement of it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I did not see the prisoner pushed by anybody—there were four persons at the door as I turned the omnibus round—I saw the prisoner the first time previous to his striking the conductor—he was on the kerb—one of his companions pushed him after I got to the back of the omnibus, but that was done to cause the
<hi rend="italic">row</hi>—I saw my mate hit the prisoner on the eye, and throw him under the
<hi rend="italic">bus</hi>—that was after the prisoner struck him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-146" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-146" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-146" type="surname" value="TYLER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-146" type="given" value="THOMAS WILLIAM"/>THOMAS WILLIAM TYLER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman V</hi> 351). I saw the prosecutor with his face covered with blood—while I was talking to him the prisoner came up with another man, and walked towards the Star and Garter—the driver pointed him out to me—he could see that done as he was standing directly under the lamp—he ran away, and the other man too—I followed him, and caught him—he had no cap—I told him the charge—he said that he knew he was there, but knew nothing about the money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-147" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE GODDARD</persName> </hi>. I was sitting in the omnibus, and saw the beginning of this occurrence—before the prisoner struck the prosecutor the prosecutor had not struck or pushed him in any way, but was making some memo
<lb/>randums in his book, and had a bag round him—I was going to Islington.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see anybody push the prisoner I
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Well, there was a general rush, and there were three or four
<hi rend="italic">roughs</hi>—I saw the conductor and the prisoner fighting, but did not see anybody push the prisoner into the road before the fight.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROWDEN.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> </hi> If they had done so, should you have seen it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> most probably.
<hi rend="italic">The omnibus company's registration deed was put in.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows:</hi>—"I wish to say I am innocent of the money; there were two or three other people besides me, and this man told me this morning he had caught them."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-771-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-771-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">He was further charged with a previous conviction at Clerkenwell in September</hi>, 1862;
<hi rend="italic">to which he</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>. **—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18640815-771-punishment-24" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-771-18640815 t18640815-771-punishment-24"/>Confined Two Years</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>772.
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<interp inst="def1-772-18640815" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES CHRISTOPHERSON</hi> (21)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18640815-772-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="breakingPeace"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-772-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="wounding"/>, Feloniously cutting and wounding
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-772-offence-1 t18640815-name-149"/>Henry Barrett</persName>, with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the prosecution, offered no evidence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18640815-772-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18640815-772-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-772-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>773.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD BARRETT</hi> (20)</persName>
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<interp inst="t18640815-773-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="violentTheft"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-773-offence-1 t18640815-name-151"/>Charles Edward Toosen</persName>, and stealing 1 pair of trousers, 1 cap, and other articles, his property.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the prosecution, offered no evidence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-773-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-773-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="noEvidence"/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>774.
<persName id="def1-774-18640815" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-774-18640815" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EDMOND MONTAGUE ELLIS</hi> (50)</persName>
<rs id="t18640815-774-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18640815-774-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-774-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, Stealing 1 whip, value 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. the property of
<persName id="t18640815-name-153" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-153" type="surname" value="ALEXANDER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-153" type="given" value="JACOB ALEXANDER"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18640815-774-offence-1 t18640815-name-153"/>Jacob Alexander Alexander</persName>.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEMP</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. F. H. LEWIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-154" type="surname" value="ALEXANDER"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-154" type="given" value="JACOB ALEXANDER"/>JACOB ALEXANDER ALEXANDER</persName> </hi>. I am an agent, carrying on business at 60, Wood-street—among other persons, I am an agent for Hicks and Son, of Birmingham—in consequence of a communication from them I sent for the prisoner, with a view to his purchasing certain goods in which I dealt—he gave me an order amounting to about 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and I asked him for references—he gave me the names of two, and was to come for an answer on the</p>
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<p>following Tuesday—he came on the Monday, and asked me if I had inquired of his references—I told him I had not—he then said, "The trays I have bought, I do not consider cheap"—I said, "Very well; there is no necessity for your having them; I hold your bill for 12
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>."—conversation took place about the trays, and while I was tying up some parcels I heard the glass-case at the back of the shop close—it contained whips—he had no right to go there—I turned round, and saw the case par
<lb/>tially closed—I went up to the prisoner, and saw a whip inside his waist
<lb/>coat, going down his trousers—I could just see the thong pointing out under his chin—it was worth 14
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I said, "I do not wish to do business with such people as you; what do you do with this whip?"—he said, "You do not mean to accuse me of stealing it?"—I said, "It seems very much like it, you having it under your waistcoat"—he made no answer, but endeavoured to take it out of my hand—I sent for a constable, and gave him in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were you not rather excited?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not in the slightest—I was excited two mornings before—I have been subject to fits, but have not had one for some time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you tell the prisoner on the Friday that you were nervous and agitated because you were going to be married, and pour Eau-de-Cologne on your head?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not because I was going to be married—I did pour Eau-de-Cologne on my head, and say that I was distracted—the prisoner spoke to me on Friday about buying whips, and on Monday also—he spoke to me about it as he passed up towards the case—I did not see him put the whip down his trousers—he had a parcel in each hand when I went up to him—he was not coming towards me—I went to him at the case—he had a tray under his arm, and a pattern-book in his hand—he said when I charged him before the policeman," I did not steal it; I had it under my coat"—I drew it right out from under his waistcoat—it was in the middle—it was a white waistcoat, not quite so high as he has now.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-155" type="surname" value="WATSON"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-155" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH WATSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 130). The prisoner was given into my custody—I took him to the station, and found on him 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., a knife, two keys, a small tray, two patterns, a rule, and six thimbles—when the charge was read over to him, he said, "I had it under my arm, or it might have been under my coat, as my coat was unbuttoned."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18640815-774-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>775.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN BOTHAM</hi> (25)</persName>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-158" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-158" type="surname" value="NARD"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-158" type="given" value="BAR"/>MR. BAR NARD</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KEMP</hi>
<hi rend="italic">the Defence.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-159" type="surname" value="PRICE"/>
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<hi rend="italic">taters</hi>, and ginger-beer—the prisoner was there with Mr. Toller—I saw a woman there, Mrs. Hamilton—she bought some fish—the prisoner said to her," I will buy you some fish, and put his arms round her neck—she said, "Do not interfere with me; I am a married woman"—she abused him, and used foul-mouthed language to him—she fetched her husband, who said, "Did you insult my wife?"—he said, "No"—Mr. Hamilton told him to stand on one side, and went to Mr. Toller—I then saw a scuffle outside the shop, and the prisoner walked behind Mr. Hamilton, and made a dig at his eye—he struck him in the eye, and I saw</p>
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<p>blood run down his cheek, but did not see what it was done with—the prisoner ran away—I went to stop him, and he stabbed me in the leg, and in the middle of the arm—I was unable to walk, and was taken to the hospital.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is Mrs. Hamilton here?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not that I know of—she did not use foul language—it was Mr. Voller used foul-mouthed language to her—the prisoner did not touch her, nor did I touch him—I have not seen the knife since—the handle of it was brass; it was a glazier's knife—I was not drunk
<hi rend="italic">;</hi> I only drink ginger-beer—I was so weak I could not go to work, and my master has given me the
<hi rend="italic">sack</hi>—I had been with him three years and a half.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18640815-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-160" type="surname" value="HAMILTON"/>
<interp inst="t18640815-name-160" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HAMILTON</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer at Back-road, St. George's-in-the
<lb/>East—on 4th July my wife fetched me out of bed, and I went down, and saw the prosecutor and prisoner together—the prisoner said, "I have not insulted your wife"—I said, "Nobody said you had"—he struck me on the eye, and it bled—I went to Voller, and turned, and saw the prisoner struggling with Price, who fell down in the road, and said, "I am stabbed."
<hi rend="smallCaps">ISAAC PAWSEY</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Policeman, K</hi> 485). I was on duty in Cross-street between 12 and 1 o'clock, heard a disturbance, went to the spot, and found the prisoner and Hamilton and another man scuffing together—I separated them, turned round, and saw the prisoner strike at Price, who fell to the ground—the prisoner then ran—I ran after him—he got over some palings at the bottom of Johnson-street, and tore half of his coat off by some spikes—I took him behind the palings—he was perfectly sober, and so was Hamilton; but Mrs. Hamilton was not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18640815-name-161" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-165" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES WILSON</persName> </hi>. I am a constable of the East and West India Dock Company—on 7th July, Furniss came to the west end of the South Dock, and asked me whether the chief officers would pass about 2 owt. of old rope—I said, "Yes; provided you get it signed at the police-office"—I did not see Brooks at that time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18640815-name-166" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WARE</persName> </hi>. I am a carman of 7, Commodore-court, Poplar, and ply for hire outside the East and West India Docks—on 8th July, about 11 in, morning, I was outside the docks, and Furniss and a man named Watson, who is not here, came to me—Furniss said, "I shall have a little job for you in the course of an hour or so," and at half-past 1 or 2 o'clock they came to me again, and told me to bring the cart—Watson got up into it, Furniss walked on a-head, and I drove into the docks at the north end, alongside No. 2 shed, where I found Brooks—Watson said, "Back the cart, and I will put it in"—there was some rope lying there, with a full sack lying on it, which did not cover it—Watson and Brooks gave me the rope to put into the cart, and Watson told me to put the sack under the
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<lb/>take, as it was empty, and Furniss' little girl came to my mother's for it on the Sunday.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When Brooks called you in, were you alone?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—a policeman was just inside—I knew Brooks—the policeman saw me turn the whole of the rope out by Brooks' order—Brooks waited near the policeman—he then went away—the policeman let him go—the policeman called Brooks, and Brooks called me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Please to pass bearer with about 5 owt.</hi> old rope, from the schooner, Planet; G. H. Derel, master"—I said that I had not the name of the captain on the licence, and said to Brooks," What quantity have you?—he said, "3 owt."—I said, "The pass is for 5 owt"—he made no answer—I told him to let me see the rope, and bring it up—I looked at it, and from the pass and the rope, and some information I had, I suspected that it was not correct—it is usual to have rope brought up before I sign a pass—I told Brooks that it was not satisfactory, he must leave the rope, and fetch the captain—he said that it was no use going, as the captain was not on board—next day, Saturday, about 11 in the morning, Brooks come again, and said, "Mind that rope does not belong to me; James Furniss gave me the pass, and asked me to buy the rope"—I said, "What do you come to me for?"—he said, "I have come here to clear myself; I will have no more to do with you"—no charge had been made against him then—he went away—I saw him about 10 o'clock that night in Wade-street, Poplar, and said, "You must go with me to Mr. Liddell," another constable, which he did, and from there he was taken to the station-house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q. Do</hi> you know him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have known him a long time as a marine-store dealer—I know nothing against him—he brought the rope directly—it is usual to bring it up to my gate.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe you have known Brooks many years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he has borne a good character—I always looked upon him as a fair dealer.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Planet</hi> or to me—Furniss came to me on Saturday at 10 o'clock, and asked me to have the rope taken on board the
<hi rend="italic">Planet</hi> again—I said that it never came from the
<hi rend="italic">Planet</hi>, and I knew nothing about it, and did not want to; that he had already got the captain into trouble, and I did not mean that he should get me into trouble.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe you have known Brooks some years?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I have known both the prisoners, but know nothing wrong against either of them.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Furniss's Defence.</hi> A man, who is not here, named
<hi rend="italic">Yankee Tom</hi>, asked me if I would purchase any old rope; I told him I had no money. Brooks said that he would buy it if he could get 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 3
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