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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SALOMONS, MAYOR. ELEVENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday September</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1856.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The Right Hon. the
<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARE
<lb/>BROTHER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>; and Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALFRED RICHARD BENNETT</hi> </persName> was
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-4" type="given" value="SARAH ANN"/>SARAH ANN GODDARD</persName> </hi>. I am sixteen years old. I am in the service of Mr. Nicholas Dawson, a linendraper, of No. 17, Crisp-street, Poplar—the prisoner was in his service as an apprentice, in 1854—he then left, and was in prison—on Sunday evening, 17th Aug. last, I saw him at my master's door, about half past 6 o'clock; I opened the door to him—he said, "Is Mrs. Dawson in?"—I did not answer; my fellow servant, Mary Phillips, came up, and answered him—he said he was the brother of Mrs. Dawson—I let him in—Mr. and Mrs. Dawson were at chapel—the prisoner came into the sitting room, kissed the child, and told him he was his uncle—(he is not any relation to Mr. and Mrs. Dawson)—he said he had come from the country—Phillips said he had come quite unexpectedly—he said no, he had written to Mrs. Dawson on Saturday evening—she said Mrs. Dawson could not get the letter until Monday morning—the prisoner then said he would come in and go to bed—I went up stairs after my bonnet, leaving him in the sitting room—I went into a room on the second floor to get my bonnet—I saw the prisoner run up the stairs to the third floor—I then recognized him, and ran down stairs, and cried out "Police!" and said that it was Alfred—I did not recognize him at first—while I was at the door, the prisoner came down; he came as far as the corner of the counter in the</p>
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<p>shop, and said to Phillips, "Miss, Miss Gooding sent me for the writing desk"—he had the writing desk in his hand—it had been on the dressing table in Miss Gooding's bed room, on the second floor—he must have passed that room in coming down from the third floor—I had seen the desk in the room when I went to fetch my bonnet—I did not recognize him at first, because he was dressed much more shabbily than when he was there before—I am sure he is the person—this is the desk—Phillips brought it to me afterwards—she is not here—she is still in Mr. Dawson's service; she was before the Magistrate.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> If I had come and represented myself to be Mr. Dawson's brother, is it likely she would have let me in? and she the very girl that was there when I was convicted; it does not stand to reason that I should have gone and given myself up as an escaped convict, because I could not get an honest living, if I had made up my mind to get it in a dishonest way; I have tried every means; I was in the militia, and when I was discharged my friends would not help me, and I did not know what to do, and went and gave myself up; I bore an exemplary character while I was in prison, and had a good character when I came out; I beg your lord
<lb/>ship will give me such a sentence as will send me out of the country, where I may be able to do myself some good.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-5" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN HILL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 331). The prisoner gave himself up to me at the station on Monday, 18th Aug., as an escaped convict—I heard of this robbery about two hours afterwards.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-6" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD WOODWARD</persName> </hi>. On the evening of 17th Aug., about 25 minutes before 7 o'clock, I was sitting at my own door, No. 14, William-street, East India-road, Poplar; that is about 500 yards from Mr. Dawson's—I heard a hallooing and hooting at the end of the street, and saw the prisoner come running, with a box in his hand, and as he passed he dropped it on my toes—I made an attempt to stop him, and caught hold of his collar, but he slung himself out of my hand, and ran off, calling out, "Stop thief! it is not me,
<hi rend="italic">governor."</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> What do you know me by?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> By your features—I had time enough to see your features—I was not at the police court—I was at Guildhall, and was examined—I was sworn, it was after you had stood down—I picked up the box, and gave it to one of the servants, who came up in a fright, and I saw her go back with it to Mr. Dawson's house.</p>
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<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner was further charged with having been before convicted.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I produce a certificate—(
<hi rend="italic">This certified the conviction of Alfred Richard Bennett, in Oct., 1854:, at Clerkenwell, of steal
<lb/>ing 871. of Nicholas Dawson, his master, in his dwelling house; and that he was sentenced to six years penal servitude</hi>)—I was not present at the trial.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>. Aged 18.—
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-11" type="given" value="OLIVER CHARLES"/>OLIVER CHARLES HESS</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Croskey and Co., ship brokers, Gracechurch-street. About 6 o'clock in the evening of 29th Aug., I was standing in Crutched-friars, looking at two or three men who were putting up a crane at a warehouse—I was speaking to a man on my right hand side, a stranger; after I had done speaking to him, I turned my head round, and</p>
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<p>found my watch in the prisoner's hand—I turned round partly to look at the crane again, and partly feeling my waistcoat pocket a little lighter than usual, the prisoner was standing on my left hand side; the watch was taken from my left hand waistcoat pocket—I took the watch from him, and gave him into custody—I called a policeman, and held him till the policeman came—I did not hear what he said to the officer—there was an Albert chain attached to the watch—it was hooked into the button hole of my waistcoat—this is the watch (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it is silver, the chain is gold—the chain was not broken, the watch was in the prisoner's, hand, and the chain still hooked in my waistcoat; it was not separated—the chain remained in my waistcoat, and the watch was in his hand, attached to the chain—I felt no pull, only my pocket lighten; the watch is rather heavy, and I missed it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Where was I standing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On my left hand side; I happened to turn my head, and saw the watch in your hand—I did not say anything—you did not move at all, or try to get away—I took you by the collar and called the police, and told him the circumstance—you did not say anything then that I heard.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 582). I was called to Crutched-friar and saw the prisoner standing there; the prosecutor had hold of him by the collar, and gave him into my custody for stealing his watch and chain—I asked the prisoner what he had to say—he made no reply—he was searched, nothing was found on him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-13" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SUMNER</persName> </hi>. I am an errand boy, and reside at No. 1, Red Lion-court, Minories. On the evening of 29th Aug., I was in Crutched-friars, and saw Mr. Hess standing there, and the prisoner near him—I am sure he is the man—he had a watch in his hand like this—I saw Mr. Hess take it from him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> On which side of the prosecutor was I standing?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the right hand side—I was standing close against you looking up at the crane—you stood between me and Mr. Hess—to the best of my belief you were on Mr. Hose's right hand side, I would not be quite positive.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I am charged with stealing a watch and chain; the prosecutor says I had the watch in my hand, and the chain was in his button hole; how could I have the means of taking it away; I did not have it in my possession; I am guilty of attempting to steal it, but I am not guilty of stealing it.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">was of opinion that the property toot not to separated from the prosecutor's possession as to constitute a larceny; but under</hi> 14
<hi rend="italic">and</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">Vict. c.</hi> 100,
<hi rend="italic">the Jury might find the prisoner guilty of the attempt to steal it, if the evidence warranted them in so doing; and as the prisoner had stated in their hearing that he did intend to steal it, that would probably be the cor
<lb/>rect verdict to find</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="italic">of the attempt to steal.</hi> </rs> Aged 20.—
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-15" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD GRAMMAR</persName> </hi>. I am sixteen years old; I live at No. 4, Seymour-street, Euston-square street, Euston-square. On 30th Aug., near 2 o'clock, I was in Holborn, and saw the prisoner—he asked me if I knew the London and Westminster Bank—I said, "Yes "—there is a branch in Holborn—he gave me this piece of paper—I was to get a book, and he would give me a shilling if I got it—I was to bring the book to him—I went to the bank—I had some</p>
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<p>conversation with the persons there, and they gave me this green book, and directed me to take it to the prisoner—I took it to him, and delivered it into his hands; he looked at it, and said he thought it was not the right one—while I was talking to him, James Thomas, the porter of the bank came up, he had followed me from the bank—he asked the prisoner to go back to the bank—he made no answer—he went back with him towards the bank—the porter told me to call a policeman, which I did, and he was taken into custody—the porter said that in the prisoner's hearing—he had hold of him by the collar or shoulder; he walked with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I never had possession of the book; I walked back with the porter without being collared.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> The porter touched him on the shoulder, and said the manager wanted him—he kept hold of his collar, or his shoulder, till the policeman came.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-16" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH WOOD</persName> </hi>. I am one of the cashiers of the London and Westminster branch Bank in Holborn. On 30th Aug. this note was given to me by the last witness—it struck me that it was not Mr. Wright's usual writing—he was taken to the manager, who gave him this green book—I did not see it given to him—this note is signed, "J. Wright"—we have no customer of that name—we have a customer of the name of J. L. Wright—this is certainly not his writing; it is something similar to it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-17" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES THOMAS</persName> </hi>. I am porter at the bank, 214, Holborn. On 30th Aug. I saw this green book given to the lad Grammar—I was directed to follow him—I did so, and I saw him give the book to the prisoner, in Holborn—I then went up to the prisoner, and asked him if he had sent the boy for the book—he said, "Yes"—I immediately took the book out of his hands, and said, "The manager wishes to speak to you"—he made no observation, but walked back with me about fifty yards; he then made a sudden stop, and turned round as if to go—I laid hold of him by the arm—a constable came up, and I gave him into custody—I had not put my hand on him before that.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-18" type="given" value="JOHN LAMP"/>JOHN LAMP WRIGHT</persName> </hi>. I am a surveyor, residing at No. 1, King's-road, Bedford-row. I keep an account at the London and Westminster Bank in Holborn—this paper is not in my handwriting—I usually signed my name, J. L. Wright"—this is after the character of my writing—I did not authorize anybody to write it—in our correspondence we sign "J. Wright"—I have, no knowledge whatever of the prisoner—I never saw him to my knowledge—I am not aware of any circumstances under which he could have seen my signature—no attempt has ever been made to defraud me by any person—the paper bears my correct address at the top of it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, F</hi> 152). The prisoner was given into my custody, in Holborn, on 30th Aug.—I took him to the bank, and there searched him—I found on him a book, containing various bets, also cheques for different grand stands of separate race courses, and a note of the Bank of Elegance—I found nothing relating to this transaction.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners statement before the Magistrate was here read as follows</hi>: "I received the note from a gentleman, who asked me to send it to the bank, and I gave the written order to the lad; I have no lodging in London.")</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The book I gave was a mere pass book—the pass book would contain the old loose cheques, bearing the party's signature—it would not contain any blank forms of cheques.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I submit there has been no forgery committed; Mr. Wright says he signs his name "J. L. Wright," and the note is signed "J. Wright;" therefore, that cannot be a forgery on Mr. Wright at all;</p>
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<p>and, in the next place, I was not aware that it was a forgery; a gentleman in the street gave it me, and when I was with the porter I stopped to turn round to look for the gentleman I had received the note of, as I found I had to go to the bank; I made no attempt to run away; I was not aware that had done anything wrong.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">in leaving the case to the Jury, said they must be satisfied that the prisoner intended to defraud some person; a mere intent to deceives would not be sufficient; it must be done lucri causa; he did not coincide with the decision in Reg.</hi> v.
<hi rend="italic">Nash, and would reserve the point if it became necessary.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="italic">of Uttering.</hi> </rs> Aged 30.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ALLISTER M'DOU
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<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-850-offence-1 t18560915-geo-1"/>St. Giles's-in-the-Fields</placeName>, with intent to steal: having both been before convicted: to which</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">M'DOUGALL</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-850-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-850-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.** Aged 20.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-850-18560915 t18560915-850-punishment-4"/>Six Years Penal Servi
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<p>851.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN SMITH</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18560915-851-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-851-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, stealing 1 printed book, value 6
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-25" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-851-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="def1-852-18560915" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-852-18560915" type="age" value="28"/>
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<interp inst="def1-852-18560915" type="given" value="JESSE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JESSE BARNETT</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18560915-852-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-852-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-852-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, stealing 184 yards of flannel, value 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the goods of
<persName id="t18560915-name-27" type="victimName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-27" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-27" type="surname" value="KYNASTON"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-27" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-852-offence-1 t18560915-name-27"/>John Kynaston</persName> and others.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALVE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-28" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-28" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-28" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-28" type="given" value="HUGH"/>HUGH JONES</persName> </hi>. I am a porter, in the employment of John Kynaston, a warehouseman, of No. 4, Graham-street On 25th Aug., about 9 o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner coming out of the warehouse with two pieces of flannel—he was a stranger to me—I followed him, and took hold of him in Milk-street—when he saw me he dropped the flannel and ran away—this is it, it belongs to my employers—the prisoner was brought back directly afterwards by a policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you in the warehouse when you saw the man going out with the flannel?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, about the middle of it—it is considerably deeper than this Court—it was his back that I saw, not his face—I had to turn a corner before I came up with him, and lost sight of him just for a minute.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> But when you came up with him, had he still the flannel?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and dropped it—he had got more than twenty yards upmilk-street; I have no doubt that he is the name man—I saw his face when I stopped him—it was daylight, 9 o'clock in the morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-29" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TURNER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 409). I was in Castle-court, Law
<lb/>rence-lane, heard a cry of "Stop thief!" and the prisoner ran up against me, coming out of Milk-street, and knocked me down—I took him back to the warehouse—the flannel was taken back also—it was not half way up Milk-street, but about fifty yards up—I afterwards met Jones, who said in the prisoner's presence, "That is the man who took the flannel"—the prisoner said nothing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not he tell you that some person asked him to hold it for him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he said, "What are you detaining me for? I have hit a man a punch on the head, and want to get away from him"—where I took him was about 150 yards from the prosecutor's.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-852-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-852-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 28.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-852-18560915 t18560915-852-punishment-6"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-32" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GARRETT</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-853-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-853-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-33" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-33" type="given" value="TINDAL"/>MR. TINDAL ATKINSON</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-34" type="surname" value="SAPSEID"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-34" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SAPSEID</persName> </hi>. I am a glass engraver, of Charles-street, Grosvent square. On the night of 8th Sept., about 12o'clock or half past, I was walking up Bruton-street, Berkeley-square, turned under an archway for a necessary purpose, and Garrett came up to me (I was sober)—he put his arms round my throat, compressed it, and pulled me on my back on the ground—I saw my watch chain safe when I went there—it was an Albeit chain, through my button hole—while my throat was being pressed, Mur
<lb/>phy came up, looked me in the face, and then knocked me over the eyes and mouth while Garrett held me—I was half down, there were gas light on each side, one in Bruton-street and the other by the Mews, sufficient to enable me to see a person's face—Murphy took hold of my chain, and snapped it off; I both saw and felt him do it—some police officers came to my assistance, and when the prisoners heard them coming, one of them left me, and Murphy was walking away when a policeman caught hold or him—they were both taken within half a dozen yards of where it happened—I this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the piece of my chain.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-35" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-35" type="surname" value="WILSON"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-35" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, C</hi> 101). On the night of 8th Sept., abort a quarter past 12 o'clock, I heard a groaning; which appeared to come from Barlow-mews; I ran down Bruton-street, came opposite the Mews, saw the prosecutor on his back struggling and kicking; and the prisoners on him; Murphy was leaning on his chest, and Garrett was standing over him—I took Murphy within three yards of the spot—I never lost sight of him; Garrett turned to the right, and came into Bond-street—I searched Murphy, and found these two knives on him (
<hi rend="italic">produced.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Murphy. Q.</hi> Did you see me in the Mews?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but I did not take you into custody there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-36" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-36" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-36" type="surname" value="ROBERTSON"/>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, C</hi> 163). I was in Barlow-mews, and heard a great groaning and calling out—when I got about twenty yards on, I saw three persons scuffling—I got within five yards of them, and saw Garrett walking away to the right, towards Bond-street—another constable at that time was facing him, and the prosecutor was on the ground—I made for Garrett, and took him into custody, and Wilson crossed the road and took Murphy.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What state was the prosecutor in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He seemed to suffer very much from his chest and face.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi> to
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM WILSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What did Murphy do when you took him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He took hold of a post, with his arms round it, and said, "What do you want with me? I am innocent"—he said that he would go quietly with me if I would let him—Garrett said something about a third man, his companion, getting away, but he did not say that Murphy had nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Murphy a Defence</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">written</hi>). On the night of the 7th instant, at a quarter past 12 o'clock (I had been to see some relations at Marylebone in the afternoon), I was crossing Oxford-street to go home to Westminster, when I heard a noise; I went down the street where the noise was, when I was surrounded by several policemen; one caught me by the collar, and began to strike and ill-use me very badly; I asked them not to ill-use me, and I would go with them quietly if they had anything against me; the</p>
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<p>prisoner Garrett, on arriving at the station house, made a statement that I was not the party who had been with him, and that I was an innocent man, and that his mate had escaped; now, my Lord and gentlemen, this is a very hard case against me; I happened, as I have told you, to be unfortunately in the neighbourhood at the time, and was taken into custody, but that is no reason why I am guilty.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-37" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-37" type="surname" value="WILSON"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-37" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILSON</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I am quite sure that the man I took was the man I saw on the prosecutor's breast—if there was a third man, I must have seen him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-853-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-853-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Murphy was further charged with having been before convicted.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-38" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-38" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-38" type="surname" value="LOOME"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-38" type="given" value="MARK"/>MARK LOOME</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant</hi>). I produce a certificate—(
<hi rend="italic">Read: "Central Criminal Court; James Murphy, Convicted of burglary, April</hi>, 1852;
<hi rend="italic">having been before convicted; Transported for ten years"</hi>)—I was present—Murphy is the same man—he has been home about two months.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>. Aged 24.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-853-punishment-7" type="punishmentCategory" value="transport"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-853-18560915 t18560915-853-punishment-7"/>Transported for Twenty Years</rs>.</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Henry Attwood, policeman, F</hi> 152,
<hi rend="italic">stated that Garrett had been trans
<lb/>ported, and was a ticket of leave man, and the associate of notorious thieves.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GARRETT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">
<rs id="t18560915-853-punishment-8" type="punishmentDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-853-punishment-8" type="punishmentCategory" value="transport"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-853-18560915 t18560915-853-punishment-8"/>Transported for Twenty Years</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday September</hi> 15
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1856.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">EAGLETON</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MICHAEL PRENDERGAST</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Michael Prenndergast, Esq., and the Fifth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CAARTEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-41" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD BEKAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, T</hi> 75). I am stationed at Hillingdon. On Monday last, 8th Sept, I was on duty, between 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning, opposite Messrs. Rigby's premises, and saw the prisoner come out of their yard with a horse and cart—I asked him what he had got, and where he was going—he said he was going to London, and he had bait for his horse—I said, "Have you got nothing else?"—he said, "Nothing"—I examined the cart, and found this sack concealed under the prisoner—he had taken the tail ladder from the back of the cart, and placed it in the centre of the cart, and the horse cloth was on the tail ladder, which covered the sack—I examined the sack, and found it contained clean oat—I weighed them, and there were 64lbs.—I asked the prisoner what he was doing with this—he said he thought he was doing no harm, as they stood in the sack; he asked me to let him take them back, he said there was no one about, no one would see him take them back—I told him I could not allow that, he must go to Hillingdon station—I took him there, and in going he asked me again to let him take them back, and he would give me anything if I would allow him to do so—I took him to the station—I have the oats here.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUGHES</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where were you on duty?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In the parish of Harlington—this occurred between 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning—I have been sixteen or eighteen months on that beat—I do not know that the prisoner was in the service of the prosecutor—I had never seen him to my knowledge—I had never seen any one come out of the pro
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<p>premises at that time in the morning—when I asked him where he was going, he said he was going to London—he did not at that time tell me he was in the service of the prosecutors; he did afterwards, on the road—I said, "Does this cart belong to the firm?"—he said, "Yes; I go up for hay once a week;" and from that I inferred he was servant to the firm—my brother officer went to the station with me—he had gone down the remainder of my beat with me—he was with me at 2 o'clock—he came again at half past 2 o'clock, and was with me till between 3 and 4 o'clock—we were walking down the road—he has no beat—he was acting sergeant—he was present, and heard all that took place.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CAARTEN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Besides this bag, did you and some bait?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes a nosebag, and a sack with mixed bait in it—that sack with the bait was standing upright in the cart—when I asked the prisoner what he had, he said, "Nothing."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-42" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES PAINE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, T</hi> 252). I was with the last witness that morning—what he has said is true.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-43" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SMITH</persName> </hi>. I live at Dorleyfield, in the parish of Harlington; I am over looker in the employ of the prosecutors, Joseph Brown Rigby and Charles Rigby. The prisoner was in their employ as horsekeeper—I gave him directions on the Saturday evening to leave on Monday morning, at 3 o'clock, to come to London for clover hay—it is about fifteen miles from London—he was to return from London in about fifteen hours and a half—he was to take with him bait for the horses—I did not give any particular order as to what quantity to take, only bait for the horses—I think this sack contains bait sufficient for the journey—what he ought to have taken was clover and oats—this sack contains clover and oats—I allow him half a bushel a day, and this journey was about a day and a half—I should give him a bushel this journey—this sack contains about a bushel and a half—the nosebag has been emptied into this sack.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you give them anything but the bait?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Nothing but the bait, which is this mixture—the men would have no power to feed the horse on oats—no one would give the prisoner the corn; he was to take it—he had charge of the corn himself—he was not only a carman, but house-keeper—there are other carmen, but no other horsekeeper—I am quite sure the horses are not to be fed on oats—I had had these oats threshed—they were placed on the premises, with five or six other sacks—the mixture was kept in one corner—this mixture is in a state in which it would be proper to give the horse—he was to take bait for the horse—I should allow a bushel of oats for this journey.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long has this man been in your employ?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Six years under my direction, and five years before—he takes what corn he thinks proper for his horses—I have not known him to bring back any feed when he has taken too much—the other foreman has known him to bring back some—the part he had to go to was Holywell-street, Westminster Millbank—I have never known him to be guilty of the slightest fault—he has a wife and four children.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who put this bag into the cart?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Himself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-44" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-44" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD BEMAN</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The horse cloth covered this sack alto
<lb/>gether—it was partly drawn through the rails of the tail ladder—the sack was totally covered—I could not see it without getting into the cart—my attention was first drawn to it by the peculiar way in which he answered me—he seemed to be stagnated in speaking, and I followed the cart, and searched it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUGHES</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called—</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-45" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-45" type="surname" value="NEWMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-45" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY NEWMAN</persName> </hi>. I am foreman to Messrs. Rigby. The prisoner has been in their employ for four years, since I have been there—he has been in the habit of taking his hone and cart to London, and other places, when we are short of a man—he has the control of the corn house and the hay house—when he has gone out, there was no one to control him in what he took; he took what he thought proper—I have seen him once or twice, when he has come back, bring his nosebag and empty out what he has brought back—on 5th Sept. I sent a boy for some sacks, and then I went down and shot out a couple of sacks of potatoes on the top of the chaff, and there were several cotchells there, which is about as much as an old man can carry—my opinion is, that there is not sufficient for the prisoner's horse in the bait sack, but there is too much in the two sacks—my opinion is now, that the prisoner did not intend to steal—I never heard anything against him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CAARTEN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Manager of the brick-makers—my masters know of my being here to-day—Messrs. Bigby leave all to Mr. Smith—they came and called me out of my bed on the morning the prisoner was taken—I went before the Magistrate, and made my statement—I do not know whether it was taken down—I was present when Beman was examined, I saw his evidence taken, down—I do not believe mine was—I did not sign anything—I have once or twice seen the prisoner replace what he has brought back—he has emptied his nosebag—he might knock out a pottle of the mixture on the oats and chaff that were mixed together—this cart comes to London twice a week—the prisoner takes it sometimes, and sometimes the other man—there is no particular allowance for going to London—they mostly take more for a journey—I consider a horse wants very nearly twice as much victuals as when he is at home—a horse is never allowed unmixed oats, to my knowledge—the food is all mixed up before they take it—the prisoner was the horse keeper, and had the management of the stable—I should think half a bushel of oats to a bushel of chaff would make good bait—this mixture (
<hi rend="italic">looking at it</hi>) is in a state good enough for a horse to eat, but I do not think there is quite enough of this bait for a horse for one day—he would want about half a bushel more—if I had seen him with this 64lbs. of oats, I should have asked him what made him take all the lot.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN SMITH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Supposing the prisoner thought proper to give the horse oats unmixed, would it be in his discretion to do so?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—he prepares the food himself; he cuts the chaff, and mixes it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the goods of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>saw a policeman, and gate him into custody—he said he had been employed to carry it, but did not point to any person who had hired him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I pointed out the man that employed me, on the other side and you said, "Never mind the man, take it back, and I will not lock you up."
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> No, I did not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-49" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-49" type="surname" value="WIKMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-49" type="given" value="NEESE WILLIAM"/>NEESE WILLIAM WIKMAN</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 103, Minories. On that Saturday afternoon I saw the prisoner pass, with the last witness—I believe this bolt of canvass is mine—it is exactly like a bolt I had just before—I had nine or ten bolts standing on a shelf in my warehouse, near the door—the door was open—the value of this is 34
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 35
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I found that one bolt was gone, No. 4, and this one is No. 4, and is from the same manufac
<lb/>turer as mine.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-50" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY SMITH</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi> 517). I took the prisoner, and have the bolt of canvass.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did you not see me lay this down on the pavement!
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; and you stated that you had been hired to carry it—you said that you had pointed out a man—Mr. Miller said that you did not say that till you were given into custody—you gave your correct address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I said that I had been at work for Mr. Nind, the paper stainer, and then, being out of work, I went to work for Mr. Syret, in the Back-road; if I had stolen this canvass I would have taken it back to the shop, and have begged for mercy.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-855-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 23.—
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-856-offence-1 t18560915-cd-2"/>13th Aug.</rs>, 1 loaf, value 5
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-856-offence-1 t18560915-cd-3"/>14th Aug.</rs>, 1 loaf, value 5
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-53" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-53" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES NORRINGTON</persName> </hi>. I am a baker, and live in Ave Maria-lane—the prisoner was in my employ—on 12th Aug., I delivered to him three quar
<lb/>tern loaves, and one half quartern loaf, for Mr. Lavell—on 13th, three quartern loaves, and one half quartern loaf; on 14th, three quartern loaves; on the 15th, three quartern loaves, and one half quartern; and on the 16th, two quarterns and one half quartern—they were all for Mr. Lavell who keeps the Daniel Lambert—I did not make any order for the delivery I of that number of loaves—I gave the bread out myself—all these loaves I delivered to the prisoner to take to Mr. Lavell—this bread has not been returned to me, nor accounted for.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-54" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-54" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-54" type="given" value="MARIAN ANNA"/>MARIAN ANNA LAVELL</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the Daniel Lambert. We I have our bread from Mr. Norrington—on 12th Aug., the prisoner called I with bread—he delivered three quartern loaves, but no half quartern—I observed that he entered in my book three quarterns, and a half quartern—I I observed that directly he left the bar—I did not say anything to him that day—on 13th Aug., he came again and delivered two quartern loaves and one half quartern, and he put down in the book three quarterns—on 14th and 15th Aug., I did not take the bread in—on 16th Aug., I took the bread in, and the prisoner then delivered two quartern loaves, and put down two quartern loaves and a half—I have the book here containing the entries—I particularly looked at the entries when he was gone, and I have put down what I did have, on a piece of paper, and then entered it in the book.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-55" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-55" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-55" type="surname" value="MULLIS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-55" type="given" value="ELIZA"/>ELIZA MULLIS</persName> </hi>. I am servant to Mrs. Lavell. On 14th Aug., I took the bread in of the prisoner, he left two quartern loaves and one half quartern and he put down in the book three quarterns—on 15th Aug., I took in of</p>
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<p>him three quartern loaves, and he put down three quartern loaves and one half quartern—that I am quite sure of.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I do not think you looked in the book.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> Yes, I did, as soon as you were gone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-56" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-56" type="surname" value="LAVELL"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-56" type="given" value="JAMES DANIEL FRANCIS"/>JAMES DANIEL FRANCIS LAVELL</persName> </hi>. I have paid Mr. Norrington for all the bread, according to the entries in this book—I went to tile prisoner when his master was out of town, and told him of it, and be abused me.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's aunt gave him a good character.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-856-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday September</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th,</hi> 1856.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FAREBROTHER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDHEY</hi>; and Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH M'DEVITT</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18560915-857-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, feloniously forging and uttering an order for the payment of 10
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<interp inst="t18560915-857-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">PLEADED GUILTY</hi>. Aged 37—Recommended to mercy</rs>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-857-18560915 t18560915-857-punishment-11"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def1-858-18560915" type="age" value="56"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">PETER TULIT</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18560915-858-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/>, stealing 1 sack of oats, value 13
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., on
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-858-offence-1 t18560915-cd-4"/>10th Sept</rs>
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>, 2 sacks of oats, value 26
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., on
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-858-offence-1 t18560915-cd-5"/>11th Sept</rs>;
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>, 2 other sacks of oats, on
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-858-offence-1 t18560915-cd-6"/>11th Sept.</rs>; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-858-offence-1 t18560915-name-59"/>Charles Frederick Frost</persName> and another, his masters: to which he</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-858-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-858-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 56.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-858-punishment-12" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-858-18560915 t18560915-858-punishment-12"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18560915-859" type="date" value="18560915"/>
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<p>859.
<persName id="def1-859-18560915" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-859-18560915" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="def1-859-18560915" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SAMUEL M'CULLOCH</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18560915-859-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-859-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-859-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, feloniously forging and uttering an order for, the payment of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-61" type="surname" value="M'ENTEER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-61" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD M'ENTEER</persName> </hi>. I keep a boarding house, at No. 105, Upper East Smithfield. The prisoner lodged at my house three weeks before this transaction—he slept there on the night of 18th Aug.—he did not pay me for the lodging on the 19th, but presented to me this seaman's advance note for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—he said that he had got a ship, the
<hi rend="italic">Providence,</hi> and asked if I would cash the note—I said, "Yes," and then looked at it, and told him that I did not think it was genuine, and then one of the boarders looked at it, and said that it was not genuine—I took it from the boarder's hands—the prisoner said that he got the note from Limehouse shipping office, from a gentleman up stairs.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-62" type="surname" value="REED"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-62" type="given" value="ENEAS"/>ENEAS REED</persName> </hi>. I am manager of the shipping office at Limehouse Captain Brown is the head shipping master, and Mr. Dunbar is the chair
<lb/>man of the board—we never issue advance notes at all, they are done away with by Act of Parliament—the prisoner never received this note there—the business is conducted by Captain Brown and two clerks, and myself and another manager—I pay the seamen's wages; advance notes used to be paid at one time, but not such as this—captains give the men a bond still but we have nothing to do with that, we pay them in cash when the ship arrives—we never pay advance wages now, and there was no such ship as the
<hi rend="italic">Providence</hi> in our office at that time—I have a copy from the books—I am only the manager—all I know of it is what I have heard.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-63" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-63" type="given" value="JOHN WILLIAM"/>JOHN WILLIAM FOULAND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, H</hi> 104). On Wednesday, 19th Aug., I took the prisoner, told him he was charged with presenting this note, which was supposed to be forged, and showed it to him—he said,</p>
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<p>"Very well"—I said that he must go with me to the station—he said, "Very well," and went with me quietly—when at the station, the inspector asked him where he got it from; he said, "From the Limehouse shipping office"—at the police office he said first that he received it at the shipping office, and afterwards he said that a lad came after him, and asked him if his name was M'Culloch, he said, "Yes," and he said, "I have a note for you which I brought from the captain," and asked him if he had got any half-pence in his pocket; he had got 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and gave it to him—there was no ship called the
<hi rend="italic">Providence</hi> in the port of London, or such a person as James Spratt—I tried to and Todd, a ship's chandler, but no such person was known.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-64" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-64" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-64" type="surname" value="REED"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-64" type="given" value="ENEAS"/>ENEAS REED</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The hours of the board are 9 to 5 o'clock—I am there all day, I Jive on the premises—the offices are up stairs—I saw the prisoner there about a fortnight before, looking for a ship—he did not go up stairs, we do not allow them to do so till they are engaged—the captain come to the front door, and engage the sailors—the names are generally put down on board the ship—the practice of the office is, they come there to meet the captains, and if they are engaged they are called up stairs.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of uttering.</hi> </rs> Aged 21.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The officer Fouland, having been sent to make inquiries, stated that the ship Providence sailed on</hi> 26
<hi rend="italic">th July, and that the prisoner was entered as a seaman upon the books, and that there was every reason to believe that he was the dupe of others.</hi>)—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-859-18560915 t18560915-859-punishment-13"/>Confined Five Days</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>860.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM ROBINSON</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18560915-860-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="embezzlement"/>, embezzling the sums of 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the moneys of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-860-offence-1 t18560915-name-66"/>John Joseph Martindale</persName>, his master.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-67" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-67" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-67" type="given" value="JOHN JOSEPH"/>JOHN JOSEPH MARTINDALE</persName> </hi>. I am a hat maker. The prisoner was my town and country traveller; the terms of his engagement were, 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in the pound commission on country business, 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the pound for town business, and 11/4 per cent, upon all cash he received, in addition to his other commission—I gave, him no salary, and advanced no money for his expenses—his duties were, the greater part of the time, in town—I sent a boy out with him to take his parcels, and it was his duty to account every evening, less discount, and I put it into the book from his dictation—that was the town account—he did not make out an account himself—he did not keep a book—there was another person besides me to whom he could account for the country accounts—it is possible that that person might have received his account of town transactions; he is here—the prisoner never accounted to me for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. received of a person named Hill—he admitted it when I questioned him, but did not account at the time—he never accounted to me for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. received from Eastwood, or for 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from a person named Home—he has never accounted for these four amounts in this account—I asked him if he would make out a statement of the facts of what he had really taken, and then he opened his mind—I laid before him a list of debts not accounted for, and he said that he had received them, but did not account for them at the time—some of them were not accounted for two months after they were received—3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which he received from Mr. Eastwood, was not accounted for at the time he received it, but he did account for it—I have not got my books, to say how soon afterwards; he has never been in the habit of paying me till a month or two months afterwards, and has then paid me with somebody else's money—it was his duty to pay me at once, but he did not do so—I do not charge him with the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. of Mr. East-wood's, he ought to have accounted for it on 10th May—I cannot tell how</p>
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<p>long afterwards he did so, he paid it before I accused him—this (
<hi rend="italic">produce</hi>) is a memorandum of the debts which I made at the time—on 20th Aug., he returned home, about half past 10 o'clock at night, after being oat about ten days in the outskirts of London—I had found out on the Saturday before that he had received these amounts which I now charge him with—he came up stairs to see me, as I had been ill, and immediately he came in I placed a paper before him with those names upon it—(I have not got that paper; I have not looked for it, because he pleaded guilty, or I should have employed counsel)—those identical sums were mentioned—I did I not also mention them by word of mouth—I said, "Robinson, what do you know of those accounts?"—he closed his eyes, as if in deep thought, and said, "It is true, Sir"—I said, "What is true? have you received these accounts, and not accounted to me for them?"—he said, "Yes"—I said that I considered he had behaved very badly, and said, "I must have you charged, but if you like to relieve my mind, do so, for there is 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the road you have just come off of"—I made no pro
<lb/>mise to him—he said, "I will tell you everything"—he then told me, in the presence of Judge, my assistant, of fourteen names which he had received, and not accounted for—they are on the paper, I wrote them at the time, that same evening—this is not the original, it is a copy; I made it very likely the same night, it was about the same time (
<hi rend="italic">looking at it</hi>)—it con
<lb/>tained the name of Mr. Horne 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Barber, of the Royal Exchange, 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a bill; Judd, of Hertford, 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and others—he paid that account to my assist
<lb/>ant—when the prisoner said that he had not paid it, he pleaded for mercy, and asked me whether I would make a debt of it—I said that I would do no such thing, I must give him in charge; that I had 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out upon that road, and had only received 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. out of it—he declared solemnly that he had not a farthing in his possession, and asked my young man to give him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., as he had paid 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. short that night—he made no excuse for not paying it over; he said that it had been going on for some time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Was not I more in the country than in town, taking one week with the other?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I do not think I let you go out of town the first six months—you introduced yourself to me as the father of a young girl who was in my employ, said that you were going to take a little country excursion, and would I give you a little commission—I cannot recollect whether you went through Hertfordshire for me—the books will show where you travelled, but they are not here—I laid down a certain time that you were to pay the money in; I always required you to pay it in the same night, except when you were in the country, and then you paid it on your return—you may have been away a fortnight, instead of ten days; I was dangerously ill, and cannot say—yum forwarded me during the time 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of the Ilford country bank, the two halves of a 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, and half of a 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note, and when you came in, you paid my managing man 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. before you saw me, making 33
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I did not, before I gave you in charge, ask you to give an account of all monies, saying that I did not know in what state my books were, as I had got a connexion varying from 100 to 200 customers—you did not tell me that you got into this difficulty through paying your country expenses.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-68" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-68" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-68" type="surname" value="EASTWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-68" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES EASTWOOD</persName> </hi>. I am a linendraper of Newington causeway, and deal with Mr. Martindale. On 10th May, I paid the prisoner for him 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; he gave me this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—he made this statement out entirely at my place—on 10th June, I paid him 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and he gave me this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) for goods had of Mr. Martindale.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-69" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-69" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-69" type="surname" value="HORNE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-69" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HORNE</persName> </hi>. I am a hatter, of Tottenham Court-road, and deal with Mr. Martindale. On 19th July, I paid 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to the prisoner, and he gave us this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) signed by him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Have not I been to your place, and stated to you several times, that I had no regular salary, merely a per centage?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I remem
<lb/>ber your saying that you had a per centage, but I do not remember you saying that you had no salary—I know that you lived for many years in out of the first manufacturing houses in London—I have known you for twenty years, but not paying you money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-70" type="surname" value="HILLS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-70" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HILLS</persName> </hi>. I am a hatter of No. 38, Crawford-street, and deal with Mr. Martindale. On 9th July, I paid the prisoner 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for Mr. Martin
<lb/>dale; he gave me this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did not I induce you to do business with Mr. Martindale?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I had not known you before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-71" type="surname" value="JUDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-71" type="given" value="HENRY WILLIAM"/>HENRY WILLIAM JUDGE</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Mr. Martindale. In his absence the prisoner would account to me for his country journeys—he has not accounted to me for 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. received from Mr. Eastwood, on 10th June; or 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on 19th July, from Mr. Horne; or 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on 9th July, from Mr. Hills—when he came home on the evening of 20th Aug., he paid me 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in cash, and the remaining half of a 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note—he gave me a list of the sums he had received, but I had to press him very closely—this (
<hi rend="italic">pro
<lb/>duced</hi>) is the memorandum I made that night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Was I ever given to understand that I was to pay money at a certain time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I always understood that you were to pay it every night—you have paid me money the first thing in the morning when you have not returned at night, and in the middle of the day also—sometime you would not come back at night, but would go home, and in the course of the morning you might have received money, and accounted the next day—you have paid me money at all times—when you returned that evening you gave me a parcel of money indiscriminately, and said that you would ren
<lb/>der an account in the morning—I imagine that you had got a list—yon asked me if Mr. Martindale had received the half notes, and you gave me the remaining halves—you gave me 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. short in the account, and if I had taken it, I should have been obliged to make it up, and you pressed me to give you 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which would make 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on account, as you had not a shilling—you said that you would see Mr. Martindale before you went; and I said "Just step up stairs," and went up with you.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> To your knowledge, had he his money in advance?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, by me—he did not state how he came to be so in want of money—nothing was said about expenses.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN JOSEPH MARTINDALE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you not had the curio
<lb/>sity to see how long afterwards he accounted for the 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; but I did not make a memorandum of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-72" type="given" value="HENRY WILLIAM"/>HENRY WILLIAM JUDGE</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> As near as I can charge my me
<lb/>mory, it was on 26th May.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HABTLEY</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">examined by the prisoner</hi>). I introduced the prisoner to do business with Mr. Martindale—he has mentioned to me that he had no salary.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I am not guilty of embezzlement with intent to defraud, having rendered an account; the deficiency which I was short of I have spent in carrying out the prosecutor's business; I have travelled for Mr. Martindale since 4th July twelvemonths; he led me to believe that that the town trade was considerable, but I found that his connection was very indif
<lb/>ferent,</p>
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<p>and I asked him if I could do bettor if I attempted to extend it in the country; I did pretty middling, and went round again in six or eight weeks; I had to go to Hertford, and come home by Surrey; I went to Guildford and Farnham, Barking and Ilford, and made three or four different rounds, which lasted me a fortnight each; I have extended Mr. Martin—I dale's business from what it was, to over 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the course of the year; I think I have got him 100 new customers, and have increased his business with a view to benefit myself; I therefore submit most humbly, that I am not guilty, having spent the moneys in carrying oat We furtherance of his Views</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-861-offence-1 t18560915-name-74"/>John Joseph Martindale</persName>, his master.—(</rs>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-862-offence-1 t18560915-name-78"/>William Alfred Joyce</persName>, on the navigable river
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<hi rend="largeCaps">BRYANT</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-862-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-862-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 14.—
<hi rend="italic">He received a good character.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTENR</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">with</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS, BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GIPPARD</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">conducted</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-79" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-79" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-79" type="given" value="RALPH FIELD"/>RALPH FIELD THOMAS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Thames police inspector</hi>). On the evening of 2nd Sept., a few minutes before 9 o'clock, I was in a galley on the river, near the Custom House—I know Banks as a waterman—I saw him there in a boat—he went to a barge that was lying afloat off the Custom House—I afterwards ascertained that barge to be the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi>—whilst he was proceeding there, I heard a whistle; it appeared to come from the direction of the barge—Banks then rowed his boat to the barge—I heard some one stumble from off the barge's cabin bead into the boat—Banks then rowed his boat ashore to the East Custom House-stairs—I saw that there was then a second person in it—when the boat got to the stain, that person jumped from the boat, and ran towards the steps leading to the street—that man was Bryant—he was stopped, and brought back—he smelt very strongly of rum—he had been drinking, but was not affected by it—he appeared to be quite conscious of what he was doing—he ran very nimbly from the boat, much more so than a drunken man could have done, for about fifteen yards—I asked Banks whom he had brought ashore—he said, "I don't know; I plied him as a fare from the stairs"—I said, "I know better, for I saw where you rowed your boat from, and you know all about it"—he said, no, he did not—he had not rowed from the stairs, but from between the two stairs, about the centre of the Custom House—I told him so—he then said, "Well, I know I did for I was waiting for him"—I then sent the constable, Dell, off to the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi> barge, and afterwards went myself; I saw Sholl there—he was the Custom House officer in charge of the barge—Dell said to me, in his hearing, "Mr. Thomas, there is a white bundle in the hold"—I asked Sholl who he was—he said, "I am the officer; is there anything
<hi rend="italic">up</hi>?"—I said, "Yes; I have every reason to believe there has been a felony committed from the barge"—he said, Oh, impossible, it cannot be; there has been no one here but myself, and no one could get here without my knowing it"—I then asked him what the barge had in it—he said, "Tobacco leaves"—I said that I had two parties in custody on suspicion of stealing—I first showed him Bryant—he said, "I don know anything of him"—I then showed him Banks—he said, "Yes, I know him</p>
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<p>as a waterman, and that is all I know of him"—he appeared quite sober; he did not smell at all of liquor—I found no rum, or smell of turn, on board—I then proceeded to search the barge, in Sholl's presence—I found the hatches closed, the tarpaulins over the hatches, and the hatch bars over them, all apparently secure—I then went down into the cabin—I found the door leading from the cabin into the hold—the hatches being fast, that was the only way by which anybody could get into the hold—I found sprinkled on the steps of the cabin a quantity of small, broken tobacco leaf, and the same on the cabin floor, towards the door leading into the hold, and also from the door leading to the case containing tobacco—in the hold, and between the case and the door, about four feet within the door, I found a quantity of tobacco tied up in a white apron—I called Sholl's attention to these appearances—he said, "Well, it certainly does look very suspicious, very queer indeed; nobody could come here without my seeing them; I have been here by myself, as I told you before"—he then became very excited indeed—he was then in the hold along with me—I pointed out the bundle to him—he said he knew nothing at all about it; that was the first he had seen of it—I examined the cases in the hold—one was unsound, and broken—a piece of the case was broken off, and lying down on the barge's ceiling; the head of the case was partly raised, and there was a vacant space in the tobacco inside, of about six inches in depth; I judge that would be about 30lbs.—the case was about three feet six, square—I then took Bryant and Banks to the station, and in about an hour and a half returned to the barge—I found Sholl in the cabin—the cabin floor had then been swept, or rather the particles of leaves I had left, were all gone, and I said to him, "Why, the cabin floor has been swept since I have been away; have you swept it?"—he said, "No; it is not my place to sweep cabin floors"—I then walked into the hold, and saw the case, and said, "This case is not as I left it"—when I left it the piece was lying on the bottom of the barge's ceiling, and when I came back it was put on in its original place, as far as the nails would admit, and the tobacco in the case was lightened up, so as to give the case the appearance of being full—I said to him, "This case is not as I left it"—he said, "How can that be, when there has been nobody here but myself? you are a d—scoundrel, sir, for insinuating such a thing; I see what you want plainly; you want to get a case up against me"—I took a sample of the tobacco in the case, and afterwards compared it with some tobacco found on Bryant—it exactly corresponded—6 1/2 lbs. was found on Bryant—there was about 4lbs. in the apron—I reported to my superintendent, Mr. Evans, what had transpired, and, in consequence of his directions, I went two days afterwards to Sholl's resi
<lb/>dence—I found him there, and told him that he must consider himself in custody—he said, "You don't mean that, do you?"—I said, "Yes"—he asked me whose authority, and what authority I had—I told him, "As a police inspector"—he said, "Where is your authority?"—I showed him my warrant card—he said, "I don't mean that; I want to know who sent you here?"—I said, "Superintendent Evans"—I told him I took him into cus
<lb/>tody for being concerned, with two others in custody, in stealing 10lbs. of tobacco from a case in the barge
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi>—he said, "It is a bad job; all I know about it is I was asleep"—I had seen him on the previous morning, Wednesday, standing at the corner of Water-lane, Thames-street he bade me "Good morning," and asked how I was getting on with the case—I said I was going before the Lord Mayor with the two prisoners—he said, "Well, it is a bad job; unfortunately I was asleep, but I don't like to</p>
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<p>tell the Board that"—that was the first he said about being asleep—I found nobody on board the barge but him at first, except Dell, the constable, whom I had sent there—the barge will carry from sixty-five to seventy tons; it is nearly as long as this Court; it is a river barge, with a cabin at one end, rather raised above the deck—you enter it by a little scuttle, or hatchway—his place would be in the cabin, or on deck, I suppose.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is there any forecastle to this barge?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I descended into the forecastle by the scuttle—there is a way from the forecastle into the hold—there are hatchways communicating between the deck and the hold—you could get that way into the cabin, by lifting the ban, tarpaulins, and hatches—they were all safe and secure, but not looked—I do not know how many cases of tobacco there were in the hold—one of them was damaged'—I understand from the stevedore that that case came on board the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi> damaged—I have been in the police nearly ten years—I have known Scholl as a Custom-house officer nearly the whole of that time—I know nothing at all of his abilities—I do not know that he has aided in conducting several prosecutions for smuggling—the robbery occurred on the Tuesday night; it was on the Wednesday morning when Scholl first said that he had been asleep.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was there any appearance of the hatches haying been removed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> None at all—the hatches are made of wood, then there was a tarpaulin, and then the bars, which are long wooden bare that go the whole extent of the hatchway—they were not fastened or locked—in order to get into the hold that way, it would be necessary to remove all those things.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-80" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-80" type="surname" value="LEWIS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-80" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES LEWIS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Thames policeman</hi>). I was in the galley with the other officers—I followed Bryant, and took him into custody; he had been drink
<lb/>ing, but knew very well what he was about.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see him searched?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I took the tobacco away from him; it was secreted under his waistcoat; it weighed 6 1/2 lbs.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-81" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-81" type="surname" value="WILLIAMS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-81" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. I am a stevedore. I was on board the Cares steamer, assisting to unload her cargo—I put three cases of tobacco out of her into the barge
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi>—I observed that one of the cases was broken on the head; it was broken down in the hold in getting it out of the
<hi rend="italic">Ceres;</hi> a great quantity of tobacco fell out of it, it fell out solid—it was all picked up again, and replaced on the top of the case—I cannot say how much of it there was, there was a great quantity—I saw that case again on the Wed
<lb/>nesday morning; the tobacco that I had replaced was then all gone, and more also, and the tobacco underneath appeared to have been lightened up by the hands, to make it appear full.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was the case weighed before it was put on board the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi>?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—some of the tobacco had escaped in the hold of the
<hi rend="italic">Ceres;</hi> none escaped in moving it into the barge, it was put in its place, and the slings kept it together—the case was not repaired at all—the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi> was moored alongside the cares and the case was moved in a pair of rope slings—I afterwards went into the hold of the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi>; I did nothing towards repairing the case, I left it there in the damaged state in which I found it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT BALLANTINE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you were in the hold of the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi>, did you notice whether any of the tobacco had escaped in its transit from the Ceres?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> None—I should say there was about 40 or 50lbs. of the loose tobacco—the whole of that was gone on the Wednes
<lb/>day, and a great deal more also—it was packed in hanks, and pressed down—it would require a good deal of trouble to loosen it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When it was placed in the hold of the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon,</hi> was it taken through the hatches, or through the cabin?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Through the batches—there could not have been any escape in the cabin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-82" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BENFIELD</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 4, Pennington-place, Pennington-street, Wapping, and am in the employ of Mr. Alfred Joyce, a lighterman, the owner of the
<hi rend="italic">Lard Clarendon.</hi> On the morning of 2nd Sept. I went alongside the
<hi rend="italic">Ceres</hi> when she arrived from Rotterdam, and took the tobacco from her—one of the cases was injured—I delivered the cases into the care of the prisoner Sholl—he saw that one of them had been injured, and he made a remark about it, in a lighter note; he said, "Yes, it is in a very bad condition," and so it was acknowledged by the officer on board—after leaving them on board, I left the barge—my responsibility was then at an end—the tobacco was taken down the barge's hatches, I took it in; we then put the hatches on, then a tarpaulin, and then the hatch bars—they were not fastened—two men might move them in two minutes; it would be difficult for one to do it—a hatch is a heavy thing.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> The hatch is the covering over the mouth of the hold?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; one man would not be able to shift it on one side—it is a barge carrying 70 tons—the hatch is about six inches less than that table—there was another man employed in the hold with me, who was in William's employ, and likewise Williams himself lent a hand when he found the state the case was in—none of the ship's crew were employed at it, the removal was conducted by men in Williams's employ—there were three of us; there was nobody else, except Sholl, and he lent a hand to
<hi rend="italic">shove</hi> it clear—the other man is a labourer, a stranger to me; I do not know his name.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-83" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The man who was assisting in the re
<lb/>moval was named Johnson—he is not here—he is a labouring man, and works under me—I left the barge between 9 and 10 o'clock in the morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-84" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Themes policeman</hi>, 12). After Bryant had been given into custody, I went on board the
<hi rend="italic">Lord Clarendon</hi> barge with Banks—I saw Sholl standing in the scuttle of the barge, leading into the cabin—I said, "Is that the watchman?" it was dark—he replied, "What do you want to know?"—I said, "I want to know who you are, and what the barge has got in her "—he said, "Who are you?"—I said, "The police "—inspector Thomas came alongside at the time with the police galley—I then got on board—Sholl directly went down into the cabin—I put my two legs down to get into the cabin, when Sholl
<hi rend="italic">shoved</hi> his head in between my legs, and said, "What do you want?"—I said, "I want to know who you are"—he said, "I am the Custom-house officer"—I said, "Why did you not say you were the Custom-house officer?"—he said, "Is there anything amiss?"—I said, "Yes, you had better come up "—he then came up to the cabin top—I said, "What has the barge got in?—he said, "Tobacco"—I called inspector Thomas's attention to it—I took Bryant into custody, and took him to the barge—about two or three minutes elapsed between my taking him and going to the barge, four or five minutes at the outside—I found Sholl standing in the scuttle.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe it was a very dark night?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Very dark—he did not appear to know me—he made no observation when I told him I was an officer—his proper place would be on deck, or in the cabin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see any tobacco on the deck?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I saw some round the scuttle, some on the ladder, and some in the barge's cabin—I saw the piece of the top of the case—it was lying in the barge's hold, by</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BANKS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SHOLL</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES RAN
<lb/>FIELD</hi> </persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-863-offence-1 t18560915-name-88"/>William Catlin</persName>, at
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<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-863-offence-1 t18560915-geo-3"/>St. Pancras</placeName>, and stealing therein, 5 snuff boxes, and 7 pipes, value 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; his property.</rs>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-89" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-89" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-89" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CATLIN</persName> </hi>. I am a tobacconist, of Albany-street, Regent's-park. On the night of 26th Aug., I was away from home—I came back about a quarter past 12 o'clock, and found a large hole cut through my shop win
<lb/>dow, and missed several snuff boxes, silver mounted pipes, cigar cases, and two or three other little articles, value 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which I had left safe at a quarter past 11 o'clock—they were in such a position that a person could take them from the hole without going into the house.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You said that there were several other articles, tell me what they were?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was such a miscellaneous lot of articles in my window that I cannot tell; there were six or seven silver mounted meerschaum piper and a stem, one silver snuff box, and four paper ones, and a cigar case.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-90" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-90" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-90" type="surname" value="JAMES"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-90" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN JAMES</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Henry James, of No. 30, Frederick-street, near Albany-street. On 26th Aug., from a quarter to half past 11 o'clock at night, I saw the three prisoners together at the top of Frederick-street, and in Albany-street, at Mr. Catlin's shop window—Ranfield put his arm in at the window, took out the things, and gave them to Evans—John
<lb/>son was on the opposite side of the way—they all three ran away together round by the church, or walked pretty fast, because they saw me watching them—I saw Mr. Catlin five or ten minutes afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How near were you to the shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Three or four yards on the same side of the way—I stopped quite still, but said nothing to them—when I saw Ranfield with his arm in the window I walked into the shop to tell Mr. Catlin, but there was nobody there but a little boy and a girl—I did not think it was my place to speak to the prisoners—it was a dark night, but I could see by the lamps—the boy in the shop was deaf, and the girl was fast asleep—the prisoners never moved till I went in; Ranfield still kept taking out the things, as I walked into the shop—I spoke to the girl when she awoke, and she fetched her father—I waited for Mr. Catlin at the shop window, and saw the prisoners walk away—I could not prevent their taking the things out—there was not a policeman to call, because he had just gone—my husband is an engineer, I was out waiting for him—I did not know the prisoners before—they passed me in Frederick-street, but I did not take particular notice of them at that time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How far was Johnson from the shop at the time you saw the boys taking property out of the window?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was right opposite, on the other side of the street—Frederick-street runs into Albany-street—the shop is in Albany-street, eight or nine doors from the corner—I did not notice some girls at the corner of Frederick-street—I did not know Johnson when he was on the other side of the way, but when he crossed over I knew him—I mean that I should not have known him if he had not crossed over—when he was taken into custody I was quite sure he was the lad I had seen on the opposite side of the street—I identified him on the same night—the three prisoners were shown to me together—when Johnson was shown to me, I said that I knew him, and that he was on the other side of the way, and I could not swear to him, but he crossed over to the other side, and then I saw his face, and can swear to him.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you say anything at the station about locking them up on suspicion?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I did not say so to a policeman—I did not want to implicate myself in it at all, but was obliged to do it—they were taken about a quarter of an hour after I saw them—I went with them to the station, and never lost sight of them—it was half an hour between my seeing them first and their being at the station, but I saw them in the mean time—from the time I saw them at the window, I never lost sight of them—they ran down Osnaburg-street, and I followed them, and kept them in sight.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you go into the shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I went just by the door, and called the little girl—the three boys were at the window till I came out and then they went away, and ran round Osnaburg-street—I went after them till I saw a policeman—I followed them with Mr. Catlin; they turned into Frederick-street, and came round again into Albany-street, and the police
<lb/>man took them—I kept sight of them all the time, except when I put my head into the shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you were in Frederick-street you saw three per
<lb/>sons come up the street and pass you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> When I was at the top, I saw the three persons pass me—when I was in Albany-street, I saw two of them at the window, and the third on the other side of the way; I could not at that time see that he was Johnson, but when he crossed over I saw that it was him, and know that they were the same three that I had seen in Frederick-street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-91" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-91" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-91" type="surname" value="PEARCE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-91" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PEARCE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, S</hi> 392). On 26th Aug., I was in Albany-street, about 11 o'clock at night—my attention was called to the broken glass, and as I was looking at it, the prisoner Johnson ran past me—Mr. Catlin's son pointed him out to me, and I ran after him, overtook him fifty yards from the shop, and brought him back—he said, "I know nothing about it; here is my mate coming, he will clear me "—I took him to the shop, and Ranfield came up, and was pointed out as another of them by Mr. Catlin and the witness James, who were together, and I took him—I took them inside the shop, searched them, but found nothing on them—on our way to the station, we fell in with Evans in Little Albany-street, and Leverett took him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were there any girls about?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not see them—I saw a horse and chaise—I heard Evans say at the police court, that he had gone to school that evening, and stopped there till five minutes past 9 o'clock; that he went to his sister's and stopped there till 10 o'clock; and was going home and met Johnson and Ranfield—he said it to the Magistrate—I heard him say that a gentleman asked the girl to take a ride with him—there were no other boys about, it was late.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examinedeby</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You knew that the robbery had been committed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, a minute before—I heard no one call, "Stop thief!"—Johnson was running, and I ran and caught him—I did not tell him that I took him on a charge of robbing any shop, I only said, "You are wanted back here"—he did not ask me what for.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who called you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Catlin's son—Ranfield came in the same direction as Johnson—I was in uniform—I met Evans about 100 yards from the shop—it was not Mrs. James who pointed out either of them to me, but she was with Mr. Catlin; they were together.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-92" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-92" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-92" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS LEVERETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, S</hi> 68). I was in Frederick-street, and saw Johnson and Evans in custody; I asked Mr. Catlin what was the matter—I saw Ranfield go up to Evans by the pony and chaise, which was 150 yards from Mr. Catlin's shop, and say, "You must be a fool to say</p>
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<p>that you did not know us, when we are all
<hi rend="italic">pals</hi> together"—I was close by them; I have seen them together a great many times, but not that night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was Evans holding the horse?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was standing by the side of the pony, and while he was standing there the other constable came back with the other two in custody—Ranfield was in custody when he used those words, he just stepped up to Evans; they had not hold of him—it is about five minutes walk from Mr. Catlin's to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ANN JAKES</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say that you followed the boys, and never lost sight of them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I pointed them out to Mr. Catlin, all three together, in Little Albany-street, and when they saw me, they ran down Great Albany-street, and Pearce caught two of them: the third, Ranfield, was in Little Albany-street; two of them ran, and left him—Evans was holding the pony.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoners' statements before the Magistrate were here read, at follows: "Evans says</hi>: "About 7 o'clock, after I left work, I washed myself and went to school, and staid in school till 5 minutes past 9 o'clock; I went to my sister's, and stopped there till 10 o'clock; I was going home, and met Johnson and Ranfield; I stopped to speak to them; I was talking to them about an hour and a half; there was a young girl, and as we were talking together, a gentleman asked her to take a ride; we took no notice; her sister begged her to come down, and the gentleman drove on; her sister said to us, 'Go and watch that gentleman where he is taking my sister, as he may take her away, and leave her somewhere;' we ran after the chaise, and watched it into Howland-street; we followed him to Little Albany-street, and the gentleman called me to mind the horse and chaise"—
<hi rend="italic">Ranfield says</hi>: "When the policeman first laid hold of Johnson, the master of the shop said, 'Can you swear to them?' she said, No; one might be the size of Johnson, and one not so big as me, and there was another man with a hat on; the master searched us, and found nothing on us; the policeman said, 'if you like, you can lock them up on suspicion of it;' when we got to the station, we were searched again, and the lady said,' Lock them up on suspi
<lb/>cion;' she could not swear to us, and that was written on the sheet"
<hi rend="italic">Johnson says</hi>: "I went with Ranfield to get a drop of water, and as we were coming back, the policeman took me into the tobacco shop."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ANN JAMES</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you still say that you kept them in sight the whole time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I did not see them throw anything away, bat I left them for a minute to go for Mr. Catlin—when Ranfield had his arm through the hole, I saw him take a meerschaum pipe, a long one—I never lost sight of him till he was taken, except for five minutes, when I crossed over to Mr. Catlin, in Little Albany-street.</p>
<p>
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, September</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1856.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FABNOOMB</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MICHAEL PRENDERGAST</hi>;, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Michael Prendergast, Esq., and the Sixth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-864-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 32.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN EDWARDS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18560915-865-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 23.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE PIERCEY</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ELLIS, JUN</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-96" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-96" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-96" type="surname" value="FAYLE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-96" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY FAYLE</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Victoria public house, No, 5, Pro
<lb/>vidence-row, limehouse. On Sunday, 7th Sept., the prisoner came to my house—he had a glass of ale, it came to 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., he gave me a shilling—I gave him 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and pat the shilling into the till, there was no other there—he went to the door, and spoke to some one—he returned, and asked for a bottle of soda water to take away—he gave me a 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece—I gave him 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—he was just going away, and was caught and brought back—after he gave me the crown, I dropped it into the till where the shilling was, and there was no other crown there—a gentleman spoke to me, I took the crown out of the till, and went after the prisoner, and brought him back—he gave me a good crown, and said he did not know the crown was bad—he wished very much to be let off, said he did not know it was bad, and that he took it at Deptford—I gave the bad crown to the policeman, and the shilling also—when the prisoner was going down the road, he said he gave me 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the glass of ale, he did not give me shilling.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did not I give you 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for the glass of ale?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, you gave me a shilling—I did not say I could not swear that you gave it me—that was a shilling that you gave me on Saturday night—I had taken a bad shilling then, but I could not swear that you gave me that shilling.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What interval was there between his giving you the shilling and the crown piece?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not more than two or three minutes—the prisoner had been there on Saturday night, and he had given me a shilling—I afterwards found that I had a bad shilling, but I could not swear that the prisoner gave me that one—he had a glass of ale on Saturday night, which came to 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-97" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-97" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-97" type="surname" value="HUNT"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-97" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMBS HUNT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, K</hi> 384); I was called to the house of the last witness, and took the prisoner—I produce this crown piece that the witness gave me—the prisoner said he came from Deptford, and he took the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece there that day—on going to the station this shilling was produced, and the prisoner was charged with uttering it—he said he had paid with 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., he had not passed that shilling—he was asked his address, he said at some street in Aldersgate-street, and at the station he refused to give his address.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I not say to the prosecutor, "Can you swear that I gave you that shilling?" and did he not say, "I can't swear that he gave me that"?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not hear him say anything about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prosecutor express any doubt about the pri
<lb/>soner passing the shilling on the Sunday?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, he said he was almost sure it was the same as the shilling he had passed on the Saturday night.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-98" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-98" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-98" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-98" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to the Royal Mint. These are both counterfeit.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I received the crown with 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for two tea tables I sold on the Saturday; the landlord says I gave him a shilling for the glass of ale, and he gave me change, which is utterly untrue; I gave him 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; after he served me with the glass of ale, he received some coin from some sailors and girls who were there drinking; when I was given in charge, the landlord said, "I know you gave me the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece, I can't be certain you</p>
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<p>gave me the shilling;" had I the means of procuring legal assistance, I could prove that on Saturday I was not there; I have worked for Mr. Martin, at the West India Docks, and Mr. Smith, at the London Docks, but they are unable to attend.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JAMES HUNT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What money did you find on the prisoner)
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> One crown piece, two shillings, one sixpence, and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-866-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-866-punishment-17" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-866-punishment-17" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-866-18560915 t18560915-866-punishment-17"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>867.
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<interp inst="def2-867-18560915" type="given" value="MARY"/> MARY SULLIVAN</persName> </hi>, and
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<interp inst="def3-867-18560915" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def3-867-18560915" type="age" value="20"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-867-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, unlawfully having counterfeit coin in their possession.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ELLIS, JUN</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-102" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-102" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-102" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAM</persName> </hi>. I was in the police, but have lately received a pension. On 10th Sept. I went to ft house in Flower and Dean-street, Spitalfields, with some officers—on entering the street, there were a great number of persons, who called out, "
<hi rend="italic">Jack I Jack Sheppard!</hi> here comes the b——
<hi rend="italic">coppers!"</hi>—I saw Brown and Langdon put their heads out of the first floor windows of the house, without their hate or coats on—I rushed up stairs, followed by other officers—I saw Langdon leave Brown's room and rush into an adjoining room, and the door was closed—I broke the room door open, and saw Langdon come from a table, and sit down on a chair by the door—the drawer of that table was open, and in it I found two files, with white metal in their teeth, at if they had been recently used—on the table was this little pot, containing sand and water—we secured these articles, and put them into Brown's room—at the time I was forcing the door open, I saw Brown (I believe it was) run up stairs—he had nothing on but his trowsers and shirt and boots—on entering the room, I saw Sullivan sitting near the window, which was open, and two shillings were near her, bearing date 1819—this was the front room, out of the window of which I had seen the men put their heads—I then proceeded up stairs, where I had seen the man run—I found Brown in bed—I called him by the name of
<hi rend="italic">Jack</hi>, and shook him two or three times—I said, "It is nonsense for you to play these tricks with me; you are not asleep, I know"—(this was in the room over the room I had seen them look out of; it looked on to the parapet of the house)—Brown said, "I have been asleep, so help me God; I have been up all night"—I asked him to get up, he refused, and I was compelled to pull him out of bed—at that time he put on his trowsers and boots, and became very violent—after he had been secured he attempted to butt me with his head, and stamped with all his force on our toes—after he was secured he said, "If you will let me dress myself I will go with you quietly"—I said, "That we will do, you have no clothes here"—he said, "No, they are down stairs"—I took him down to the room where I had seen him put his head out of the window, and in that room, on a bed, was his coat and handkerchief, and waistcoat and cap—I addressed Sullivan, and said, "What have you got about you?—she said, "Nothing, Sir, but good money"—I said, "I must have it," and she took from her pocket this bag, which contains 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money, consisting of one half-crown, florins, shillings, and one sixpence—the half crown bears the date of 1818, which corresponds with the half crown which will be produced—we secured the prisoners, and took them to the station—there was a mob outside, of I suppose, 2,000 persons—they were very riotous, and began to unharness the horse from the
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi> that we were taking the prisoners to the station in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-103" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-103" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-103" type="surname" value="BRYANT"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-103" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN BRYANT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant G</hi> 22). I went to the house with the last witness—I waited outside, in company with Elliott—as the officers</p>
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<p>were going up stairs, I saw Langdon and Sullivan looking out of the first floor window—I said to Langdon, "You will be
<hi rend="italic">all right</hi> presently"—he drew his head in, and came to the window immediately after, and threw out a handful of counterfeit shillings—there was a mob of 300 or 400 persons—I succeeded in picking up one of the shillings—I think he threw out thirty or forty pieces—after that I heard some one call from the top of the house—I looked up, and I looked and saw Brown leaning over the parapet, and I saw him throw from his hand this dark coloured bag—as the bag was falling some pieces of coin fell out of it—I think it had shillings and half crowns in it—I succeeded in picking up one shilling—Martin picked up the bag and ran away with it—some of the officers pursued him, and brought him and the bag back—I afterwards went into the house, and found Mr. Bran
<lb/>nan had Langdon in custody—I said, "That is one of them "—I took Lang
<lb/>don into Brown's room, the first floor front room, where I had seen the persons looking out of the window—I found on the table in the room a counterfeit shilling, bearing the date of 1819—I assisted in taking the prisoners to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-104" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-104" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-104" type="surname" value="BRANNAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-104" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Jun.</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, G</hi> 21). I went with the other offence to the house—I went up to the first floor front room—I then heard some
<lb/>thing, and ran down to the street—there was a large crowd outside—I saw a dark coloured bag fall, but I did not see where it fell from—it was thrown from the direction of the house, but I could not see who threw it—I saw Martin pick it up, and run away—I pursued him some distance—he toned into Fashion-court, and threw the bag over the wall—I seized him, and said, "You did not do that cleverly "—he said, "I only did it to keep the poor devils out of trouble "—the bag was picked up by Elliott.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-105" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-105" type="surname" value="ELLIOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-105" type="given" value="ARTHUR AUGUSTUS"/>ARTHUR AUGUSTUS ELLIOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 104). I went with the other officers to the house—I stopped in the street, and while there I saw Lang
<lb/>don and Sullivan with their heads out at the first floor window—some one spoke to them, and they went in, and Langdon came to the window again, and threw out a handful of counterfeit shillings, which were picked up by the mob in front of the house—there was a dark bag thrown by Brown from the top of the house—several pieces of coin fell from it—I picked up one half crown and one shilling—the rest was picked up by the mob—I saw the bag picked up by Martin—I followed him with the last witness—he threw the bag over a wall—it fell into a water butt, I picked it out, and found in it seven counterfeit half crowns, of the date of 1819—they were in separate fine paper, but they got so wet I could not keep the papers on.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Brown.</hi> It was not me that threw the bag out.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-106" type="surname" value="EVANS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-106" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS EVANS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 145). I was with the other officers—I went up stairs, and saw Brown come from the room over the coal shed or greengrocer's—he went up stairs—I went into the room from which he came, and found Sullivan there—I asked her whether she lived there—she said, "Yes"—there was a fire in the room—it was a clear bright fire—there was white metal running through the fire—I picked off the coals this part of a half crown—I found this copper wire, this pipkin with melted metal in it, and on the table some sand, two bottles containing acid, and some other things.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-107" type="surname" value="MARTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-107" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN MARTIN</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 4, Flower and Dean-court. I heard the noise, and went to the place—I stood two or three yards away from the crowd—a bag fell from the garret window—I picked it up, and ran away with it—I threw it over a fence—the officers took me, and brought me back and the bag too—I threw the bag over the wall; I did not know it went</p>
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<p>into the water butt—there was money in it—I looked, and saw it was had, and I threw it over the wall.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Brow. Q.</hi> Was it me that threw it out of the window?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, it was a young woman—it was not Sullivan—it was another young woman threw it from the garret window.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The garret window is back from the parapet, is it not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but the young woman got right upon the parapet to throw it—I could see her face distinctly, and she had a brown frock on.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-108" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-108" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-108" type="surname" value="BRANNAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-108" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> There were several other lodgers in the house; they all flocked on to the parapet when we went in.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ARTHUR AUGUSTUS ELLIOTT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Can you undertake to say who was the person that threw it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was George Brown—he had no cap or coat or waistcoat on at the time—there was no young woman there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-109" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-109" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-109" type="surname" value="MARTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-109" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN MARTIN</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I can be on my oath it was a young woman that threw it—she had a brown dress on—I could see her face.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BENJAMIN BRYANT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see Brown on the parapet?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I heard him call, and saw him throw the bag—he had no coat, waistcoat, or cap on.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Brown.</hi> It was not me that threw the bag.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-110" type="surname" value="BRISCOE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-110" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BRISCOE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman H</hi> 100). I assisted the other officers in taking the prisoners—I have been on duty in that neighbourhood from twelve to eighteen months—I have seen Brown and Sullivan in bed to
<lb/>gether.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Brown. Q.</hi> Have you been on duty there twelve months?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, on and off—I have seen you in bed with Sullivan three or lour times—I have seen you get up and open the room door to me on several occasions, and go into bed again.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What had you to go to the house for?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There are various robberies about there, and we have often to go to this house, to make the persons get up, and search the place and the persons.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-111" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-111" type="surname" value="PHIPPS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-111" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH PHIPPS</persName> </hi>. I keep this house—I know Sullivan—I let her the front room, over the greengrocer's shop, about twelve months ago—I have seen Brown up and down the stairs—I never saw him in the room.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-112" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-112" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These shillings and half crowns are all bad—eight of the half crowns are from one mould—this good half crown which was found on Sullivan has been used to make the mould from which these bad ones were made, and one of the shillings found on her is the one from which the mould was made in which all these bad shillings were made—this metal is the same as is used in making counterfeit coin—this wire is used on the battery—all these other things are used in making coun
<lb/>terfeit coin.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Langdon's Defence.</hi> I was not in the room.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Brown's Defence.</hi> I was up stairs; I had been out all night, and had a drop to drink; I was not sober; I went to bed, and where I had put my clothes I cannot tell; I can assure you I had nothing to do with it, and what they say about my throwing the things out of the window is utterly false.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-867-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-867-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-867-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 20.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-867-punishment-18" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-867-18560915 t18560915-867-punishment-18"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SULLIVAN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-867-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-867-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-867-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 22.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-867-punishment-19" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-867-punishment-19" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-867-18560915 t18560915-867-punishment-19"/>Confined One Year</rs>.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LANGDON</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-867-verdict-3" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-867-verdict-3" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-867-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 20.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-867-punishment-20" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-867-punishment-20" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-867-18560915 t18560915-867-punishment-20"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>868.
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-114" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-114" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-114" type="surname" value="CHEESEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-114" type="given" value="SARAH ANN"/>SARAH ANN CHEESEMAN</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Cheeseman; I keep a fancy repository at Paddington. On 12th Aug. the prisoner came, about half past 12 o'clock—she looked at several toys, and then asked for a penny doll—I gave her one—she threw down a sixpence on the counter—I did not take it up at the time, but the moment she turned her hack I took it I up, and it was bad—I kept it in my hand, and went to the door to look for her, but she was gone—I wrapped the sixpence in a paper, and put on it, "Given to me the 12th of August"—I put it away, and no person knew that it was there, nor that I had taken it—on 28th Aug. the prisoner came again—she wanted a penny doll, and gave me another sixpence—I observed it was bad when she gave it me, and I told my niece to go for change, but she went for a constable, in consequence of what I had before said to her—the constable came, and took the prisoner—I gave him the two sixpences.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I was not in the shop on 12th Aug.; it is not likely I should have waited above half an hour before the officer came.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> She did wait—when she was at the station she said she had given the doll which she bought on 12th Aug. to a child in the house—I recognized her on her entering the shop—I pretended to give the sixpence to my niece, but I did not; I kept it in my hand till the officer came—there were others of her party outside, from whom I had taken bad money before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-115" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-115" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ABTHUR BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, D</hi> 113). I took the prisoner into custody—these are the two sixpences which I got from the last witness—the prisoner said she was not aware that the sixpence was bad; she was very sorry for it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-116" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These sixpences are both counterfeit.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I am very sorry it was bad; I went to buy the doll for a little girl that was in the workhouse; I had the money from a gentleman the night before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-117" type="surname" value="BROWN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-117" type="given" value="ARTHUR"/>ARTHUR BROWN</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I heard her say she had given the doll to a child in Paddington workhouse, and she mentioned the name of the child.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-868-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-868-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 32.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-868-punishment-21" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-868-punishment-21" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-868-18560915 t18560915-868-punishment-21"/>Confined Three Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>869.
<hi rend="largeCaps">
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<interp inst="def1-869-18560915" type="age" value="25"/>
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<persName id="def2-869-18560915" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-869-18560915" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="def2-869-18560915" type="surname" value="MORTLOCK"/>
<interp inst="def2-869-18560915" type="given" value="FANNY"/> FANNY MORTLOCK</persName> </hi>, and
<persName id="def3-869-18560915" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def3-869-18560915" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="def3-869-18560915" type="surname" value="SULLIVAN"/>
<interp inst="def3-869-18560915" type="given" value="CATHARINE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CATHA
<lb/>RINE SULLIVAN</hi> </persName>, were indicted for
<rs id="t18560915-869-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-869-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-869-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> a like offence: to which</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SARAH MORTLOCK</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-869-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-869-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-869-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 25.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-869-punishment-22" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-869-18560915 t18560915-869-punishment-22"/>Confined Three Months</rs>.</hi> </p>
<p>(
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">offered no evidence against the other prisoners.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FANNY MORTLOCK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CATHARINE SULLIVAN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-869-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-869-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-869-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>870.
<persName id="def1-870-18560915" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-870-18560915" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-870-18560915" type="surname" value="HAYNES"/>
<interp inst="def1-870-18560915" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN HAYNES</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18560915-870-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-870-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-870-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-122" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-122" type="surname" value="BURGHER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-122" type="given" value="CAROLINE"/>CAROLINE BURGHER</persName> </hi>. I am housemaid at No. 7, Gloucester-terrace, Hyde Park-gardens. On 14th Aug. I got into an omnibus, to go from the Marble Arch to Tottenham Court-road—the prisoner was the conductor—I got out at Tottenham Court-road—the fare was 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I gave him a half crown—he gave me a shilling, two sixpences, and a 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece—I put the money into my glove—I went afterwards to an Italian warehouse in Oxford-street—I bought a bottle of French polish—I gave the shilling which was in my glove—I had no other money—the shilling was refused by the shopkeeper—I left it with him, and paid with the two sixpences—on the following day I made an arrangement with my sister to go in an omnibus from the Marble Arch—the prisoner was the conductor—we got in, and went to Marylebone-lane—we got out, and I offered the prisoner a half crown to pay for myself—he</p>
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<p>gave me a shilling, two sixpences, and a 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece—I bit the shilling, and perceived that it was bad—I gave it to my sister—I told the prisoner it was bad—he said he was not aware of it, and he would give me a good shilling—my sister called a policeman, and told him the charge—I went to Mr. Dean's, the Italian warehouse, and got the other, shilling, and gave it to the constable—I saw the prisoner taken as he was coming back, about an hour afterwards.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you ever travel by the omnibus of which this man was the conductor before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, frequently—when my sister made the charge, the prisoner at once said he might have done so, as be frequently had bad money passed to himself—I got out of the omnibus first.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-123" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-123" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-123" type="surname" value="BURCHER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-123" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN BURCHER</persName> </hi>. I am sister of the last witness. I made an arrangement with her, and went in the omnibus to Marylebone-lane—I got out, and saw my sister give the prisoner a half crown—he gave her a shilling—she bit it, and the prisoner wished to get it from my sister, but I shouted out to her not to give it him—I said to him, "Ton are the man that served my sister the same thing yesterday"—I called a constable, and pointed out the prisoner to him—I said, "I charge that conductor with giving my sister two bad shillings"—I was present when the prisoner was taken, when he came back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-124" type="surname" value="DEAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-124" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DEAN</persName> </hi>. I am shopman at an Italian warehouse, in Oxford-street The first witness came for a bottle of French polish on 14th Aug.—she gave me a bad shilling—I bent it, and offered it her back—she said it was no use to her—she paid with two sixpences—I put the shilling on the shelf and kept it apart from all other money—I gave it her again the next day.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-125" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-125" type="surname" value="PRITCHARD"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-125" type="given" value="WILLIAM CHARLES"/>WILLIAM CHARLES PRITCHARD</persName> </hi>. I was at that time in the police—on 15th Aug. I received information from Ann Burcher about the prisoner—she showed me a counterfeit shilling—she made some charge against the prisoner, but I could not understand it at the time—my officer took the prisoner's number, and told him to proceed—I took him as he came back—I found a good deal of good money on him—when he was first charged he made some reply, but I could not understand it; it was about these persons being about to utter it to him—I received this counterfeit shilling from Ann Burcher, and this other from Caroline Burcher.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did not this man say that he might have passed it, as he often took bad money himself?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, he did before the inspector, when the charge was being taken—the first time the prisoner was stopped, was on the pavement, in uniform, and the omnibus stopped—I took the prisoner about forty minutes afterwards, the omnibus having proceeded on it's journey, and was on it's return.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-126" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-126" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-126" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-126" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These shillings are both counterfeit, and from the same mould.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-870-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="notGuilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-870-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<p>871.
<persName id="def1-871-18560915" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-871-18560915" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-871-18560915" type="age" value="29"/>
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<interp inst="def1-871-18560915" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES DANIELS</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18560915-871-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-871-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-871-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for feloniously uttering counter
<lb/>feit coin: having been before convicted: to which he</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-871-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-871-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-871-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 29.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560915-871-punishment-23" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-871-18560915 t18560915-871-punishment-23"/>Four Years Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>872.
<persName id="def1-872-18560915" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-872-18560915" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="def1-872-18560915" type="surname" value="MICHSHAL"/>
<interp inst="def1-872-18560915" type="given" value="MIRANDA"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MIRANDA MICHSHAL</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18560915-872-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-872-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-872-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">W. J. PAYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN CALLOW</hi>. I live in William-terrace, Pentonville, and keep a coal</p>
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<p>shed. On 19th July the prisoner came, and had some potatoes, and greens, and other things, which came to 9 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I gave her 2 1/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I knew her by her coming to the shop at different times; she lived at Mrs. Coleman's, three or four doors off—I found that the shilling was bad—she came again and gave me a 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece, and I changed it for her—I marked the shilling, and gave it to the constable.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> He never said that I gave him the bad shilling, though I live but two or three doors off
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I believe you would have given me a shilling again, but you saw that I was looking very hard at you, and then you put the shilling back, and took a 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece out of your purse, and gave it me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-129" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-129" type="surname" value="COLEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-129" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN COLEMAN</persName> </hi>. I reside in Winchester-street, Penton ville. The prisoner lodged with me in July, and the beginning of Aug.—she lodged two or three months with me, by the name of Mrs. Vincent; her brother, a little boy, lived with her—some one lived with her a little while—she left on 7th Aug.—at that time she owed me 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. rent, but I agreed to take 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; she gave me a 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—after she had gone, I examined the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece; I thought it looked very strange, and it bent—I gave it to the policeman when she was given in charge—it was in my drawer from the 7th Aug. till I gave it to the policeman—I had received the rent from her before that—I do not exactly know that she always paid me good money—I had two bad shillings, but I do not know that she gave them to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You nave no reason to believe that you ever took any bad money of her before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; but I found I had two bad shillings—I put her rent by itself, and found two shillings were bad—I had every reason to believe that the money she gave me was good before that time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLERK</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When she had paid you your rent before, what did you do with it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I put it by itself—I found two bad shillings in the money I had put away—I received that money from the prisoner—I had not mixed any other money I had received from her for rent, and in that I found two bad shillings.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you now say that you believe you had of her two bad shillings?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe I did, but I cannot swear to it—they might have been two shillings that I got from other persons—I put the rent into the drawer, but I lent a person a shilling, and she brought it back before I knew it was bad—I then found one more bad shilling, after the woman had returned it to me—I do not know at all that I received bad money from the prisoner before the 7th Aug.—I gave the crown to the constable this day three weeks.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I lodged with her three months, and always paid her the rent, and she cannot say that I gave her bad money; had she known that I gave her a bad 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece, I think she would have come and told me so; she knew where I went to; I went by her door every day in a cart.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I never saw her—I did not know where she went; she said she was going into the country.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-130" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-130" type="surname" value="PREBBLE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-130" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET PREBBLE</persName> </hi>. I keep a shop in East-street, Somers-town. On 16th Aug. the prisoner came, between 11 and 12 o'clock—she asked for some tea and sugar, it came to 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 0 1/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she offered me a half sovereign—I could not give her change—she went out and got change—she came back, and put down two 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. pieces—I said I could not give her change—Mr. Er
<lb/>wood was in the shop—I said, "Perhaps that gentleman can give you change," and he gave her five shillings for one of the crown pieces, and she paid me 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 0 1/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—Mr. Erwood went away, returned in a few minutes, and gave</p>
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<p>me a bad crown—it was left with me till the following Saturday—there was no other crown there—it was put into a wooden bowl by itself—on the 23rd, the constable came with Mr. Erwood; I gave him the same crown—the prisoner was there then, and I understood her to say that the got the two crowns from the Coronation public house, which is at the top of the street.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I have been in the habit of coming to your shop, and never gave you any bad money before.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> You have been in the habit of coming ever since I opened the shop, three or four months—I have changed a half sovereign for you several times.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-131" type="surname" value="ERWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-131" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL ERWOOD</persName> </hi>. I was in the last witness's shop on 15th Aug., when the prisoner was there—she put two crown pieces on the counter—I changed one for her—in ten or twelve minutes afterwards, I found it was bad—it had Dot been out of my possession—I brought it back to Mrs. Prebble—on the 23rd, I met the prisoner in the street, I gave notice to a constable, and took her back to the shop—when I saw the prisoner, she said if I would go to Mrs. Prebble's shop, she would come to me—I said, "No, I have lost two days, I shall lose no more; where you go, I shall go"—she went and spoke to a water cress man, and they went into a public house; they kept me waiting in the street half an hour—I could not see a policeman, or any one I knew—they came out of the public house, and the prisoner, and her rater, and the water cress man went to the station—after some persuasion, the prisoner went with me to Mrs. Prebble s—I asked for the crown piece, and Mrs. Prebble gave it me—the prisoner said she had nothing to do with it, she had not passed it, and she knew nothing about it—she said she had changed the half sovereign at the Coronation, and got the two crowns—I took her to the station, but I would not press the charge; I thought her a respectable person—she was taken on the 25th—I believe Mrs. Cole
<lb/>man gave her in charge—I gave the crown piece to the policeman—she gave her address, No. 93, Alderman-terrace—I went there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> You took one crown piece, and put it on your finger, and threw it up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and I was going to put it in my mouth, and she asked me to look in her mouth to see that she had lost her 'teeth—I put the crown in my waistcoat pocket, and she went off.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> Mrs. Prebble said it was her opinion that I did not give it, him; she said I had been there so many times, and did 'not give her bad money, she did not think I gave him that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HARRIET PREBBLE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you say that you thought she had not given it to Mr. Erwood?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I said it was very strange that he should walk out of the shop and not know it till so many minutes afterwards—the two 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. pieces were on the counter, and he took one, and drew it along, and took it and threw it up in his hand—the prisoner had some sweets eating, and Mr. Erwood said to her, "You will spoil your teeth," and she opened her mouth, and said, "No, T won't; look in my mouth."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-132" type="surname" value="ERWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-132" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL ERWOOD</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I rung the money, it rung very well indeed.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-133" type="surname" value="ODY"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-133" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS ODY</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Coronation public house, which is about 300 yards from Mrs. Prebble's. On 16th Aug., I was serving in the bar from half past 10 till half past 1 o'clock—no one but me was there dur
<lb/>ing that time—I did not give any one two crowns for a half sovereign.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-134" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-134" type="surname" value="PREBBLE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-134" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET PREBBLE</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The prisoner came to me between 11 and 12 o'clock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-135" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-135" type="surname" value="ODY"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-135" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS ODY</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I am sure I was then; all the time I have</p>
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<p>stated, and no one served there but me all that time—the foreman is there, and the foreman's wife is there sometimes—she was not there that morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> When I went, there were two young men there—I went in the room by the side, and said to one of them, "Can you give me change for a half sovereign?" and he said, "Yes;" and gave me two crowns—he took the silver from the back and gave it me.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> There was no person there but me all that morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you sure that no one had change for a half sovereign?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—we never give two crown pieces in change for a half sovereign—I know the prisoner—I can positively swear that no man was in the bar but me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-136" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-136" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-136" type="surname" value="SNOOKS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-136" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SNOOKS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, S</hi> 192). I went to Mrs. Prebble's shop, on 23rd Aug., and took the prisoner to the station—the charge was not pressed against her—I received this crown from Mr. Erwood—this crown from Mrs. Coleman, and this shilling from Mr. Callow—the prisoner was given into custody on the Monday following for passing the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece to Mrs. Coleman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-137" type="surname" value="ERWOOD"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-137" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL ERWOOD</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I do not know the water cress man that she seemed to be associated with—I do not know him, he pulled up at the Coronation public house, and when they came out there they all went to the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-138" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-138" type="surname" value="COLEMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-138" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN COLEMAN</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> She did not associate with any man that sold water cresses, that I know of—she lived with her brother—there was some man came there at first, but what he was I do not know.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-139" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-139" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These coins are all bad, and the two crowns are from one mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I got the change at the Coronation; if I had given the crown to this young man, I think he would have found it out at the time; the man that I was with comes every Saturday with cresses; I was going with him to meet his brother from Boxmoor, that was what I went to the station with him for.</p>
<p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES MILLS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18560915-873-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">W. J. PAYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-141" type="surname" value="HUGHES"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-141" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HUGHES</persName> </hi>. I keep the Red Lion, in Wilson-street, Finsbury. On Thursday, 21st Aug., the prisoner came about mid day for half a pint of beer—he tendered me a sixpence in payment—I gave him 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change; he took the change and drank the beer, and left the bar hastily—I exa
<lb/>mined the sixpence and found it was bad—I placed it on a shelf and sent for the policeman, and gave it to him—he returned it me, and I kept it in my possession till the 23rd—on that day Mrs. Perry, my daughter, was in my shop, and she called my attention to the prisoner, who was then outside my window—my daughter had a sixpence in her band at the time—I went out and brought the prisoner in; I said he was the party that passed the sixpence on me on the Thursday—he denied it, and said he had never been in the house before—I am positive he is the man; I gave him into custody, and gave the two sixpences to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I had been about the street, and I took the sixpence in the street; I did not know it was bad; I went and called for half a pint of beer, and gave it to the lady—she said to her mother, "Is this the one that was here on Thursday?" she said, "I can't say that it is;" I went out, and this gentleman came after me when I was half way up the street; he said, "You gave me a bad sixpence on Thursday;" I said, "I was never in the house before;" he said, "I think you are the person."
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> No I did</p>
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<p>not, I was quite positive you were the party—three weeks before you were in my house tendering bad money, but you were let go—I was not at home.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-142" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-142" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-142" type="surname" value="PERRY"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-142" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN PERRY</persName> </hi>. On 23rd Aug., I was assisting my father—the pri
<lb/>soner came in between 7 and 8 o'clock that evening—I served him with half a pint of beer, he gave me a sixpence which was bad—I told him it was bad, he said he did not know it—I kept the sixpence in my hand, and afterwards gave it to my father—he went after the prisoner—I had seen the prisoner three weeks before—he came then with a bad sixpence—I gave it him back—he was not given into custody then.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-143" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-143" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-143" type="surname" value="HARDY"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-143" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS HARDY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 198). I took the prisoner into custody, and received these two counterfeit sixpences from Mr. Hughes—when I took the prisoner, he said, "I am charged with passing a bad sixpence"—I said, "I must search you"—he said, "I have no more money"—I found on him 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver, good, and 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—when he was charged with having been there on the Thursday, he said he had not been in the house before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-144" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-144" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-144" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These sixpences are both bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I was out with my barrow, and took this sixpence; I was going to market at night, and gave this sixpence; I did not know it was bad.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi>)</p>
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<interp inst="t18560915-873-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 19.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELLEN KNIGHT</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18560915-874-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">W. J. PAYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-147" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi>. I was a police inspector, but have retired On 1st Sept I went, in consequence of information, to No. 23, Chapel-place, Coram-street, Russell-square, with other officers—I found the front door open, I proceeded up stairs to the first floor—I pushed the room door in, and found the two prisoners; they were sitting close to a bright, dear fire—on seeing me enter, they both jumped up—the woman picked from the table a quantity of counterfeit coin, and flung it towards the window, which was open—a portion of it fell on the floor—at that time the man threw from his hand a plaster of Paris mould, and commenced stamping on it—he had neither coat, waistcoat, nor hat on, and his shirt sleeves were tucked up—I seized him, and pushed him into a sort of cupboard—he resisted violently, and the female prisoner seized me behind—by the effort of the officers, she was pulled from me, and both the prisoners were taken to a distant part of the room and secured—I picked up a portion of the mould which the man had thrown down, it is for making 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. pieces—I saw on the mantelpiece eight counterfeit shillings unfinished, of the date of 1820, and three counterfeit sixpences—on the fire I found this ladle, with white metal in it in a fused state—inside the fender this plaster of Paris mould, which is complete, with this counterfeit shilling in it—the
<hi rend="italic">get</hi> is to the shilling—the mould was so hot I could not hold it—the shilling is of the same date as the others, 1820—I found on the table a galvanic battery, in full play—there was a good groat attached to the wire, and six counterfeit groats were in the deposit place undergoing the process of electro plating—there was a piece of glass with plaster of Paris on it—I saw these two files found on the table, with white metal in their teeth, some plaster of Paris in powder, and some white sand; all the instruments for making counterfeit coin—this battery cylinder was in the cupboard—I took the prisoners to the station—they were asked their names and address; the female prisoner said she was not married.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Isaac Knight. Q.</hi> Was the door fastened?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was pushed to, I do not think it wag very strongly fastened—I hit it with a sledge hammer and it went open—I found this mould inside the hearth—I found this battery in full play; it was on the table, behind the door—the battery was broken by your violence—here is a substitute for the screw—if I had the solution here, I could make it act in less than a minute.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ellen Knight.</hi> The window was shut down.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> It was open when I went into the room—I pulled down the window.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ellen Knight.</hi> You know that your men struck me across the face and you seized me by the hair of my head.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> No, I did not—if I had seen an officer strike you, I should have reported him whoever he might be.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Isaac Knight. Q.</hi> What was the reason you took us into the back room!
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> To prevent your committing further violence.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-148" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-148" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-148" type="surname" value="BKYANT"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-148" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN BKYANT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, G</hi> 22). I accompanied Mr. Brannan to the house—I went up stairs with him into the first floor front room—I saw Isaac Knight throw a mould from his hand, and stamp on it—Mr. Brannan seized him, and I assisted in taking him—Ellen Knight seized Mr. Brannan, and was about striking him with her fist—I prevented the blow, and with the assistance of sergeant Brannan I got her away—I took from her right hand a 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece, dated 1849, and at her feet I found a counterfeit shilling, of 1820, unfinished.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ellen Knight. Q.</hi> When the man was holding me down on the bed with the hair of my head, did you not strike me with your clenched fist?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, never—it was as much as two of us could do to hold you on the bed, you were so violent.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-149" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-149" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-149" type="surname" value="BRANNAN"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-149" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BRANNAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, G</hi> 21). I was at that house—when I went into the room, Isaac Knight was struggling with Mr. Brannan, and at the same time he was stamping on some plaster of Paris—Ellen Knight was attached to Mr. Braunan behind—I got her away with the assistance of the last witness—she had a quantity of coin in her hand, which she threw out
<lb/>side the window—I went to the window, and on the cill outside I found this 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece, dated 1849, and on the floor inside I found this counterfeit shilling—while I was searching Isaac Knight, he said, "You find anything else against me? you have got quite enough; there is one good thing, you can't hurt her"—Ellen Knight said in reply, "I will do as much as you will do; I am better able to stand."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-150" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-150" type="surname" value="ELLIOTT"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-150" type="given" value="ARTHUR AUGUSTUS"/>ARTHUR AUGUSTUS ELLIOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 104). I accompanied the other officers to the house—I was stationed at the door—I went up, and found two files, one shilling, bearing date, 1820, which was not finished, and one sixpence, which is finished, of the date of 1851</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-151" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-151" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-151" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-151" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This mould is for casting shillings, it is quite per
<lb/>fect, and in the mould here is a counterfeit, with the
<hi rend="italic">get</hi> to it—these eight shillings are counterfeit, and have all been cast in this mould—these three sixpences are counterfeit, and they are from one mould—they are finished—here is a fragment of a mould for casting 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. pieces—this 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece was cast in this mould—this battery is used for covering coins with silver, here is everything necessary for that purpose.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Isaac Knight. Q.</hi> Is this battery fit for use?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—here are the 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. pieces which have been in the solution, and are partly coated with silver—here is the 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece which is good, and which has been used to coat them with silver.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ellen Knight.</hi> I am innocent; we had not been in the place a quarter of an hour when this occurred; some one has done it to have us taken.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Isaac Knight.</hi> This woman is my lawful wife, I can assure you; we were married at St. Pancras New Church.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Ellen Knight.</hi> My certificate was to have been here; cannot that be proved now?</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ISAAC KNIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-874-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-874-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 38.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ELLEN KNIGHT</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560915-874-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560915-874-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-874-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 30.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-874-18560915 t18560915-874-punishment-25"/>Four Years Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, September</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1806.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The Right Hon. the
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Mr. Justice
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAMS</hi>; Mr. Baron
<hi rend="smallCaps">BRAMWELL</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUMPHERY</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FINNIS</hi> Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">LAWRENCE</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MICHAEL PRENDER-GAST</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Williams and the Third Jury.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-875-offence-1 t18560915-name-153"/>Her Majesty's Postmaster-General</persName>: to which he</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-875-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-875-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 38.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-875-18560915 t18560915-875-punishment-26"/>Six Years Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN COLE</hi> </persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-876-offence-1 t18560915-name-155"/>Emily Luker</persName>, with intent to murder her.—2nd
<hi rend="smallCaps">COUNT</hi>, with intent to do grievous bodily harm.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-156" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-156" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-156" type="surname" value="LONG"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-156" type="given" value="STEPHEN ROBERT"/>STEPHEN ROBERT LONG</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 69, Gracechurch-street, and am cashier in the service of Messrs. Capper and Son, linendrapers. I know Howley-place Villas—I went there on 7th July last, about half-past 9 o'clock in the evening, to deliver a parcel—I rang the bell of the garden gate—the servant, Emily Luker, opened it—I gave her the parcel—I saw the prisoner there, he was standing at the corner of the street—he came to the gate—as soon as I had given the parcel he drew out a pistol—I seized hold of it by the barrel—he was then, I think, about two or three yards from the young woman—he pulled the pistol out of ray hand, and I jumped on one side—he then levelled the pistol at the servant's head, and fired—she fell—the prisoner walked off—I went into the house—the girl was taken into the house, and I left—I did not see where she was wounded—I heard the report of the pistol.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you observe the young man before you rang at the gate bell?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, he was at the top of the street when I first saw him—I cannot tell how far off that was—I think it was longer than this Court—he was standing there—I had no opportunity of seeing his face, to see whether he was in an excited state or not—I did not hear him say anything when the gate was opened by the girl.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-157" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MACKERELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, A</hi> 349). On 7th July, about half past 9 o'clock, or 25 minutes to 10, in the evening, the prisoner came to the Paddington police station—the station is about four minutes' sharp walking from Howley-place Villas—he knocked at the door, and I admitted him—he said, "I am your prisoner, I am come to give myself up"—he repeated again, "I am your prisoner; I have killed a person, I have committed murder;" at the same time he showed a pistol that he had in his hand—Williams, another constable, took the pistol from him—I took him into the inspector's room—I asked him what he wished to</p>
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<p>say to me—he said, "I have killed a person, or I think I have: I fired the pistol, and I saw them drop, arid then I came straight here"—I asked him if it was a man or a woman—he said, "A woman "—I asked him if he knew her—he said, yes, it was Emily Luker, and she lived at No. 9, Howley-place Villas—he said he had tried it three times yesterday, and he had told her before that he would
<hi rend="italic">do</hi> for her—I sent a sergeant to the house, and found it as he had stated.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe he was in a very excited state when he came to the station house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was excited.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-158" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-158" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WILLIAMS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, D</hi> 141). I recollect the prisoner coming to the station, on 7th July last—he brought this pistol from underneath his coat, and gave it to me—I produce it—I examined it—it had been recently discharged; it was quite warm, and smelt of powder—he said that he had taken life—I searched him, and found on him eight letters, a small quantity of gunpowder, four percussion caps, and several small stones—he said he had fired off enough stones out of this to kill three—I produce the stones, there are five of them—five of the letters are signed by the prosecutrix, addressed to the prisoner, and three are from the prisoner to her—the stones were loose in his pocket—it was after I had found the stones that he made the statement about having loaded the pistol.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are those all the stones you found?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think those were all—I am not aware of any others—those were all.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-159" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-159" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-159" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS HASELDINE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, D</hi> 10). The prisoner came to the station on the evening of 7th July—I heard him state that he had shot some one at Howley-place Villas—I went there, and saw Emily Luker on a bed in the back room, in a very dreadful state—the doctors then wished me to go back, to see if I could find out what the pistol was loaded with—I went back to the station, and said to Williams, in the presence of the prisoner, "Do you know what the pistol was loaded with, bullet, or shot!"—the prisoner answered, "With small stones "—I then went back to How
<lb/>ley-place Villas, and assisted in removing the girl to the hospital—the prisoner was afterwards taken to St. Mary's Hospital, to have the deposition taken—on his way to the hospital lie said he was very sorry, it was entirely her own fault, she had not sent him an honourable letter.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> He was in a very excited state?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Oh, very.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-160" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-160" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-160" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ROBERTSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, D</hi> 2). On the evening of 7th July I assisted in taking the prisoner to the hospital—on the way there he said he had been waiting about there on Sunday night, to see if he could see the prosecutrix—he made several other remarks.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he not say he had an appointment to meet her on that Sunday evening?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—he said he thought he should see her come out, but he did not say he had made any appointment with her—her—he did not say if he had met her on that Sunday he should not have been driven into the state of mind in which he was—he said nothing about an appointment with her on the Sunday evening.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-161" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-161" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-161" type="surname" value="LUKER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-161" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY LUKER</persName> </hi>. In July last I lived at No. 9, Howley-place Villas. I have known the prisoner for nearly eleven months—in April last he made me an offer of marriage—I did not give him an answer to that—the acquaint
<lb/>ance between us ceased on 18th May—he continued to call for nearly a fortnight after that; I saw him several times, but my fellow servant gene
<lb/>rally answered the gate—I saw him at the gate—no conversation then took place between us with regard to what had happened before—nothing was said about the offer of marriage—I do not remember that he said anything</p>
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<p>about it—he wished to carry on the acquaintance—he said he thought we should be happy, and wished to carry on the acquaintance—I said I thought we could not be happy, and I thought it beat that we should break it off at once—when he left me he told me to remember Baker—he did not tell me what he meant by that, but I understood that he meant the young man that murdered the young woman at Southampton, as he had often spoken about it—he spoke about it at the time when Baker's trial was going on; we had conversed about it—we spoke about the newspaper, and things that were in it, and about the trial—on the evening of 7th July I recollect the youth Long calling with a parcel—he delivered the parcel to me—I then saw the prisoner by the gate poet, and he rushed out and fired the pistol at me—I saw him push the boy—I cannot say exactly how near he was to me when he fired the pistol, but I should say he could not have been much further than a yard or two—I heard the report of the pistol—I was struck in the eye, and fell; I was not insensible—I remember being taken into the house—I was afterwards taken to St. Mary's Hospital—I had seen the prisoner the evening before, Sunday, the 7th; I went to let my mistress in from Church, and saw him running towards the gate—I had not made any appointment with him for that evening—I cannot remember how long it was before that I had spoken to him—I am twenty-three years old.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where was it that you first met this young man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At his master's, Mr. Gill—I went there to see Mr. and Mrs. Gill—that was where the acquaintance first sprang up—a short time after the acquaintance commenced we began to correspond—that correspondence continued for seven months—he always professed himself devotedly attached to me; he always appeared so—we have been out walking together—he has made me one present—he generally behaved with the greatest kindness and affection, both by word and by letter, but I found that he was of a jealous disposition—his proposals to me were proposals of marriage—I do not think I have ever written to him calling myself his affectionate Emily; I do not remember saying so—I kept his company for a little time after he proposed marriage—these two letters (
<hi rend="italic">looking at them</hi>) are in my handwriting—I remember now that I have called myself his affectionately—I do not know when this letter was written, but I think I had Dot written to him for some time before this; I think it was in the early part of this year—it is addressed from No. 1, Delamere-terrace, Westbourne-terrace, Hyde Park; I was living there at that time—I do not think this letter was written in April; I do not think I wrote a letter to him in April, but I cannot remember—when he proposed marriage to me in April, I did not give him an answer—he told me that he was in a good situation, and could keep me happy and comfortable, and that he would do his best, and devote his life and his energies to keep me happy and comfortable as a married woman—I did not give him any answer.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> After the offer of marriage was made to you, do you recollect whether you wrote to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I wrote one letter after I gave him my denial; I wrote a letter of denial to him—I should say that was nearly a month after the offer of marriage—these letters were written before the offer of marriage—I never promised to marry him—at the time he made me the offer in April, he asked me to consider it—I did take time to consider, and then wrote the letter; I told him first—on 18th May I told him at the gate that I wished to break off the acquaintance—I told him that I found him to be of a jealous disposition, and I thought we could never</p>
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<p>live happily together if that was the case, and I wished to break off the acquain
<lb/>tance.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-162" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-162" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-162" type="surname" value="WINTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-162" type="given" value="ANNE"/>ANNE WINTER</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 8, Howley-place Villas; I am a single woman. I recollect the day this transaction occurred—on the sunday before, I saw the prisoner there, between their gate and ours, walking to and fro—I saw him there about 9 o'clock—I stood and looked at him a few minutes, I cannot say how long; I saw him for a few minutes, but I saw him several times in the course of the evening, but only merely a few minutes at a time—he was walking up and down.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-163" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-163" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-163" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MOSELEY</persName> </hi>. I am shopman to Mr. Charles Heed, a pawnbroker, On 5th July I sold this pistol, I believe to the prisoner, but I will not swear to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You have no doubt about the pistol?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I can swear to that; it has got my private mark on it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-164" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-164" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-164" type="surname" value="PAYNE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-164" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED PAYNE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, D</hi> 235). I recollect the evening that the prisoner came to the Paddington station—he produced the pistol, and said, "I am your prisoner"—I was locked up with the prisoner during that evening—he said he did it, that he was determined to do it, he was deter
<lb/>mined to take her life; that it would not have happened if she had sent him an honourable letter—I said it was a bad job—he said he should have been very sorry if he had hurt the young man that was there, but he did not think he could have done it, for he pulled him away with his left hand, and fired with his right—he said he bought the pistol in Chapel-street, but he did not know at which shop, that he put three charges in it, that he saw her fall, and he came away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> He was in a very excited state all the time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was, all the time I was with him; he was more like a madman than a sane man all the time I was with him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-165" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-165" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-165" type="surname" value="LUKER"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-165" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY LUKER</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> About a month or six weeks before this occurred, we had a supper at my master's house, to which the prisoner was invited—I did not invite a young man, a butcher, to the supper; he called I there, and he staid to supper; he came to see a fellow servant of mine—that young man was not paying his addresses to me, but to my fellow servant—there was an angry feeling between the prisoner and me with respect to that young man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it after that that you gave him the denial
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; and told him about his being of a jealous disposition; the supper was on 12th May, and on the 18th I gave him a denial—the young man was not paying his addresses to me, but to my fellow servant's sister.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-166" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-166" type="given" value="JOSEPH HENRY PROSSER"/>JOSEPH HENRY PROSSER STAPLES</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at St. Mary's Hospital The prosecutrix was brought there in the beginning of July last—I was called down stairs, and found her in the waiting room lying on a couch—her face was covered—I uncovered it, and found it very much blackened, and there was bleeding from the right eye—the face was also very much swollen—she was removed into the ward—I afterwards examined the right eye—it was destroyed, the iris was protruding; the eye itself was completely destroyed—there was a lacerated wound over the outer part of the orbit, above—the bone was bared—it was such a wound as would have been inflicted by stones of this description tired from a pistol—I considered it a dangerous wound at the time—she has been under my care nearly up to the present time—she has completely lost her eye—I cannot say that she is out of danger yet, she might have a relapse.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you in making your examination of the parts, discover any stone, or fragment of stone?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I did not.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> A discharge of powder so close to the face of the girl would cause the same injuries without any atones at all, would it not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It must be very close; no, I do not think it would—it would not—the periosteum would not have been denuded from the bone, unless it had been touching the face—if the pistol had been touching the face, it might hare done so—supposing that the pistol was close up to the face, and then discharged, the appearances I observed might be caused by powder alone, without any stone being in the pistol.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. KIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you think that at the distance of two or three yards the powder alone could have inflicted a severe wound of that sort?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Cer
<lb/>tainly not—if the pistol had been touching the akin, the bone would very probably have been denuded, but I cannot say that it would; certainly not at the distance of a yard.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-167" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-167" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GRAY</persName> </hi>. I am an M.D., of the University of Edinburgh, and live at No. 1, Howley-place, nine doors from where the prosecutrix lived. I heard the report of the pistol as I was reading in my own room—I went out into my front garden to see what it was, and a woman came in a great hurry—I went to see the young woman; I found her lying on a bed bleeding pro
<lb/>fusely from the eye and the forehead—I examined it; I found the integu
<lb/>ments severed from the frontal portion of the bone, and falling over the cheek, and a small portion of the bone exposed—the eye itself was burst and gone—it was such a wound as would have been inflicted by stones of this description fired from a pistol—I should say it could not have been caused by powder alone; you might have had a contused wound, but not the integuments dragged from the bone—I-should think powder could not have done that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Suppose that a stone had struck the face, would it have lodged there, or gone away?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It would depend upon circumstances—the pistol must have been fired very close to the head, or she would have been killed; if it had been a few yards from her she would have been killed; in fact, so near must the pistol have been to her, that a great portion of the powder even did not explode—it is possible that the stones might have been fired from the pistol, and have struck the face, and then dropped, on account of the close proximity to the face—there would be no windage, and there would be no momentum; if it had been at any distance it would have gone into her brain—the pistol must have been very close indeed.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was read at follows</hi>: "I am extremely sorry that I injured her; my mind and feelings were too wounded, I could not master them; I did not know what I was doing.")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-168" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-168" type="given" value="GEORGE GIBSON"/>GEORGE GIBSON JACOBS</persName> </hi>. I am a nurseryman and florist. I have known the prisoner since Feb. last—I knew him in Covent-garden market for a year or two before, but I have known him more particularly since Feb., and until the time this took place—he has always been an amiable, well-conducted, moral young man; honest, sober, and industrious—he was in my employ—as I came here voluntarily, I think there is one thing that I ought to state.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you going to speak of what you know of your own know
<lb/>ledge
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, it relates to about the time when the butcher was invited to take supper at the house—I was not present then, but from that time up to the time of this occurrence, the prisoner was not like the same man—I</p>
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<p>set him to do something to some verbenas to frames, and he smashed the frames and the lights, and I believe he had not his proper senses; and during that week he demanded four different arrangements of wages of me—all my men said that he was turned
<hi rend="italic">cranky</hi>, and I am firmly convinced that he had not his proper senses at the time.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">William Gill, nurseryman, in whose employ We prisoner had been for two years, also deposed to his good character</hi>).</p>
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<hi rend="italic">on the</hi> 2
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Baron Bromwell and the First Jury.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<join result="nameAlias" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-877-18560915 t18560915-alias-1"/> Richardson</rs> </hi> </persName>, and
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<hi rend="smallCaps">HENRY HILLYER</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">alias
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<join result="nameAlias" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-877-18560915 t18560915-alias-2"/>Anderson</rs> </hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18560915-877-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="mail"/>, stealing, from a post letter, an order for the payment of 76
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; the property of the
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<interp inst="t18560915-name-171" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560915-877-offence-1 t18560915-name-171"/>Postmaster-General</persName>.—Other
<hi rend="smallCaps">COUNTS</hi>, for receiving, and varying the manner of stating the charge.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POULDEN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-172" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-172" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-172" type="surname" value="STEPHENS"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-172" type="given" value="JOHN GRAY"/>JOHN GRAY STEPHENS</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer, in King-street, Covent-garden. On Monday, 21st July, I had occasion to make a remittance to York—I drew this cheque (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it is not in the same state now as it was when I drew it—I had crossed it "& Co., bankers;" that has been erased—I put the cheque into an envelope, and put it where letters are intended for the post, in my office—I addressed it to Messrs. Backhouse and Son, York—this was between 1 and 2 o'clock in the day—(
<hi rend="italic">The cheque was for.</hi> 76
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">on Coutts and Co.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-173" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-173" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-173" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-173" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WHITE</persName> </hi>. I am a porter in the employ of Mr. Stephens. On 21st July, I remember taking a letter to the poet office—I took it from the mantelpiece in the office, between 1 and 2 o'clock; I did not read the address—that was the only letter I took in the middle of the day—I took and put it in the post office at Mr. Daniels's, nearly opposite Mr. Stephens's.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560915-name-174" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560915-name-174" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-174" type="surname" value="WARRAND"/>
<interp inst="t18560915-name-174" type="given" value="JULIA"/>JULIA WARRAND</persName> </hi>. I am housekeeper to Mr. Daniels, who keeps a receiv
<lb/>ing house for letters in King-street, Covent-garden—I sometimes attend to assist in that—I remember, on 21st July, making up the dispatch for the 2 o'clock collection; there were thirty-two letters—I tied them together in a bundle, and put them on the counter—it is a stationer's shop—at the time I was making up the bundle a man came in, and asked if there was any letter at our place directed to J. H.—such letters are kept just behind one of the counters—there are two counters in the shop—I had to look for such a letter, and that slightly took off my attention from the bundle of letters—I did not find the letter, and told him so—he then asked for the second edition of the
<hi rend="italic">Times</hi> to look at—I gave it him—whilst he was look
<lb/>ing at it, a woman came in for a penny postage stamp, and another man came in close behind her; he wanted a "London Journal"—he took it him
<lb/>self from the counter, paid me, and went out; the woman left after him—the first man was still standing there; he did not remain half a minute after the other had gone out—about seven minutes after these persons had left the shop, I missed the bundle of letters—I had not had any other cus
<lb/>tomer in the shop in the interval—a Mr. Cutler came in before the two men came—the first man was there while Mr. Cutler was there—Mr. Cutler came in with a letter, which he wanted me to include in the bundle—I did so—at that time the bundle was safe—after that was done, Mr. Cutler went away, and then the other went—I do not remember either of those men that came in, so as to speak to them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">for Hillyer</hi>).
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I think you pointed out a person at the police office as being like the man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not being like</p>
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<p>him; I said he was more like him than any one else in the place—the pri
<lb/>soners were then present—the man I referred to was not one of the prisoners—thought him more like the man that entered the shop than either of the prisoners—I do not nay that I believe either of the prisoners to be the persons that came into the shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long after the letters were lost was it that you were at the police office.
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About thirteen days, I think.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The man that was pointed out was neither of the two pri
<lb/>soners?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, the man who came into the shop had black hair, to the best of my knowledge—I mean the first man who sat down, and his hair hung down straight at the side, and he had black clothes on; of course, that alters the appearance.</p>
<p>
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