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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SALOMONS, MAYOR. THIRD SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more them once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1856.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The Right Hon. the
<hi rend="largeCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARE
<lb/>BROTHER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">FRANCIS GRAHAM MOON</hi>, Bart., Ald.; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt., Ald.; and Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">EAGLETON</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM GRIFFITHS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-155-offence-1 t18560107-cd-1"/>19th Nov</rs>., 100 slate pencils, value 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 2nd
<hi rend="smallCaps">COUNT</hi>, stealing 12 night lights, value 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 3rd
<hi rend="smallCaps">COUNT</hi>, stealing 12 forks, and 2 lamps, value 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-155-offence-1 t18560107-name-2"/>Alfred Davis</persName> and others, his masters.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BALLANTINE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-3" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SHAW</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 224). On 23rd Nov. I was in Bishops
<lb/>gate-street, watching the premises of Mr. Alfred Davis, of No. 59 and 60, Houndsditch—about 6 o'clock in the evening I saw the prisoner come from the premises, he had this bag with him—I went up to him, and asked what he had got in the bag—he said he had got a lamp which he had bought at Mr. Alfred Davis's, in Houndaditch—I asked him if he would allow me to see it—he took it out, and showed it to me—there were two lamps, I produce them—I took the bag from his hand and examined it, and found in it this packet, containing twelve plated dessert forks—I told him I was afraid it was not all right, and he must go back with me to the warehouse—he asked whether anything else would not do—I told him nothing else but taking him to the police station—he went back with me to the warehouse, I found Mr. Davis, and Mr. Hyams there—when Mr. Hyams saw the forks, he said, "These are our property"—the prisoner said he had bought them—Mr. Davis asked him of whom—he said, "Of Millington"—Mr. Davis asked him when—he said, "Some time"—I then took him into custody, took him to the station, and there searched him—he gave me his address, I</p>
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<p>went there and found, among other property, two parcels of slate pencils, which I produce.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAKRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You were, of course, instructed to act as you did?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I did not know the prisoner before I was shown him on this occasion—the property at the prisoner's house was readily. shown to me—there was no disguise about it, it was all openly in the house—the prisoner's family were there—I found some invoices on the prisoner's person.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do either of those invoices apply to the slate pencils, the lamps, or the forks?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, neither—I was in plain clothes when I went to his house.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-4" type="given" value="JOHN JAMES"/>JOHN JAMES MILLINOTON</persName> </hi>. I am buyer and manager of the Birmingham and Sheffield department at the prosecutors—I never sold these forks to the prisoner—they are plated, they are worth 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a dozen.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long have you been in the house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About eight years—the prisoner was there before me—Mr. Hyams is here—when I first went into the employment, it was the constant practice of the servants of each department to sell to each other—they were all allowed to buy from the establishment—I believe that has been going on down to the time of the prisoner's apprehension, although lately not allowed by our employers—I have occasionally purchased things—I have things at my house now that I have purchased—I have not been in the habit of purchasing goods to sell again, I may have done so once or twice, but I have not been in the habit of doing it—I do not know others that are in the habit of doing so, many of them may have done so—as far as my knowledge goes they have not been in the habit of doing so, they have occasionally done so as well as myself, but it has not been a recognised thing among us—I have bought things to sell again; it was kept quiet, it was understood it was not allowed, it was done to accommodate one another—I heard something of some night lights being consigned to Messrs. Davis, which were not sold—I did not take a sample of those night lights, I am quite sure of that, I am not aware that any persons in the employment took samples of them at the request of Messrs. Davis for the purpose of seeing whether they could get rid of them—I am not aware that Mr. Davis asked the prisoner to try and sell them, it is possible he might have done so—I am quite sure that no one, to my knowledge, took a sample away—I never sold the prisoner these forks, nor any plated forks—I may have sold him a set of knives and forks, I think I have on one or two occasions—he has not bought forks of me of this descrip
<lb/>tion for the purpose of selling again, he has ordinary knives and forks—I have no book here—these forks were in my department—I was not present when the prisoner said he had bought them from me, I first heard of it on the Saturday morning following—my employers have not blamed me at all since this has been found out for disobeying the orders of the house—I have sold forks, not in the establishment that I know of, I do not remember—I cannot swear that I have not—when I did sell it was usual to make out a bill, and call the cashier to take the money of the purchaser—that was the case throughout the establishment, either when we sold to each other or to any other customer—I have not been a witness here before—my employers have prosecuted several of their servants, and unsuccessfully, except in one instance—ours is a very miscellaneous business, we sell a great variety of articles—we do not keep spirits to give customers to tempt them to buy, we occasionally have a glass of wine, or ale, but not spirits—we take a glass of wine with them occasionally, we are not compelled to do so—we do not</p>
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<p>invite every customer, only our bettermost ones that come from a distance—I am not aware that the prisoner need to bay to sell again—we were intimate in business—I have visited him at his house once or twice, and he has visited me on one occasion—when we made out the bills for one another we did not always put the name—we do not always put a name, we have so many customers that we do not know the names of—we do not generally put names for small customers, either for customers, or fellow servants, not unless there is an entry made—I am not aware that the prisoner or any of the servants have had things on approbation for sale, I should say not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Then it is understood in the establishment, is it, that servants should not purchase?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, but they have done so occa
<lb/>sionally—as far as I know, when they have purchased they have paid—they always had an invoice if the amount exceeded 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—it was not the custom for them to take the invoice to the cashier and pay for the goods, the cashier would be called to take the money—that would be the case whether it was a servant or an ordinary customer—there is no other person named Millington in the house but myself—I did not sell these forks to the pri
<lb/>soner, nor to anybody that I am aware of—I think I had not sold any forks that day at all.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> In those instances in which you took the money to the cashier, would it be usual to give the prisoner a bill?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The bill would be made out at the time of the sale of the article, and the cashier would be called to take the money and stamp the bill—that ought to be done on all occasions—I cannot say that it has—I am not aware that he ever purchased goods from me without my giving him an invoice.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-5" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DAWSON</persName> </hi>. I am servant to the prosecutors, in the musical and lamp department. On 23rd Nov. the prisoner bought two lamps of me, and I gave him an invoice, which he ought to have taken to the cashier's desk, and paid for the lamps—I do not know whether he did so—these are similar lamps (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I believe the value of them is 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Have you often sold things to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not recollect selling him anything before—I never heard from any of the mem
<lb/>bers of the firm that that was contrary to the rules of the house—I heard it before I went there from the other shopmen—I had been there eighteen months—goods are sold by the young men to each other, it is the constant practice—there are eight departments—I have bought things for my own use, but not to sell again—I do not know that some of them were in the habit of buying to sell again—I have only sold 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. worth at the time, not 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. or 40
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. worth—Griffiths told me that his. passage was rather dark, and he wanted this lamp to light it—I had no hesitation in letting him have them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You supposed he would pay for them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-6" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CAMP</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to the prosecutors. Two or three days before the prisoner was apprehended, I saw a box of night lights in a cup
<lb/>board of the prisoner's—immediately he was taken into custody I went to the cupboard, and it was gone—a day or two afterwards I looked into the prisoner's drawer, and saw some slate pencils tied up in paper; I tore the inside wrapper, and looked at them—these are them (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I know the wrapper by the tear—I opened them at the time—that was before he was taken—I (poked into the drawer again next morning, before he went to his dinner, and they were there then—I looked again directly after he had had his dinner, and they were gone—that was before he was taken—I communicated to my employers what I had seen.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What is the value of these pencils?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Threepence</p>
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<p>—the night lights are worth 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I have not been blamed by my employers for dishonesty, I may have been for inattention to business—some years back there was a deficiency in the money, when I was cashier, but it was eventually proved satisfactorily to them—I never knew that the prisoner has been employed to watch me—I have never been turned away—I did write a letter, begging my employers to take me back, and promising to behave better—about six months ago I was in a situation in Liverpool, and wrote wishing to come back—I had left about two years and a half before—I had not been dismissed—I was decidedly suspected of dishonesty—it was at that time a customary thing, when busy, to stay till 10 o'clock at night; I was an apprentice, and very young, and Mr. James Davis told me that I was not to stop after the usual time—I took the key of the desk, which had 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., or 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., in it, hung it on a hook and went away; next morning when I returned I found that the till had been opened, and the whole of the money taken away—I spoke to Mr. Alfred first; he said, "I dare say my brother has had it out, and intends to give you a cheque for it this morning"—when I saw Mr. James he said that he did not know anything about it—I was had up stairs and examined; it remained very quiet for some days, till one of the apprentices absconded, and went some distance by rail with some bad companions, and after that it was satisfac
<lb/>torily proved that he was the guilty party—when I was cashier my masters were sometimes in the habit of taking money from the cashiers, and subse
<lb/>quently giving them a cheque for it, but I have ceased to be cashier some years.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How old were you when the loss took place?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Sixteen or seventeen—I remained there three or four years afterwards, and left of my own accord—I applied to come back, and was at once admitted—all those circumstances were perfectly known to the prisoner, and that I was perfectly exculpated—their treatment was much better to
<lb/>wards me than before; feeling quite satisfied, as I know they did.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-7" type="given" value="CHARLES WILLIAM"/>CHARLES WILLIAM COLES</persName> </hi>. I am cashier to the prosecutors. It is my duty to keep the books, receive the money, and account for it—I shall be fourteen years old in March—the prisoner did not pay me for these forks, night lights, or slate pencils, to my knowledge; if he had I should have stamped the invoice, and received the money—I do not recollect his bring
<lb/>ing any invoice for these night lights—I have my book here, but do not know what they would amount to, I only enter the sum of money and the department—I do not remember these forks being brought to me on that day.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you the only cashier?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am the walking cashier—I take the money—I have been cashier about four months—there are about seventy shopmen or more, they all pay me money, which it is my duty to enter—they ought not to pay me two or three amounts all in a lump.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINK</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You enter under the departments in which the goods come?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; the lamps belong to the E, and the forks to the A department—I believe the slate pencils belong to the G department; it is the toy department—here is no entry in my book of 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., on 23rd Nov., in the toy department; if the prisoner had brought an invoice for 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., worth of lamps, the 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., would be found here—here is no entry of 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for the forks, the nearest amounts to it are 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do, not you know that mistakes are sometimes made even by you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; on that very day there was 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., deficient—I do</p>
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<p>not know whether a servant, buying in two or three departmente, may have all the money put down in the last department.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. deficient on this particular day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was—I was in the habit of giving the prisoner my key every day—I cannot say whether I did so on that day—I found out the deficiency the same evening.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-8" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID HYAMS</persName> </hi>. I am a partner in the firm of Davis and Co., of Hounds
<lb/>ditch. We have about eighty servants—the prisoner was shopwalker and manager—it is strictly forbidden that things shall be sold to servants—the prisoner has been in our employ about thirteen years—on 22nd Nov., a communication was made to me—I communicated with a policeman) and in the evening the prisoner was brought back to the warehouse by the police
<lb/>man, who opened a red bag which he brought in with the prisoner, contain
<lb/>ing these two lamps and these forks—the prisoner said that they were sold to him by Millington—I was not satisfied, and gave him into custody—he had no right to take them—the forks are worth 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a dozen, they would come under department A—supposing Coles has kept his books properly the 20
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. ought to appear there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> About what age is the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> About thirty-five; he has been about thirteen years in the employment—the practice of buying among the young men was permitted very many years since, but was afterwards forbidden; I do not know that it has prevailed in spite of that.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character</hi>).</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his character; but</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">stated, that</hi> 160
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">worth of property which had come from the prosecutors', we found at his house.—
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WALTER JUSTICE</hi>. I am a solicitor) and live at No. 6, Bernard-street, Bloomsbury; I did so in 1851. On 15th Nov., 1850, the prisoner came to my office—he came in a
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi>, with a little boy—he sent in his name as Mr. Rowe; and when he came in, I at once concluded that it was a Mr. Rowe with whom I had had business transactions, and who was a blind man—the prisoner is blind—I had received some annuities for Mr. Rowe, and trans
<lb/>mitted the money to him by hand, and he had always acknowledged the receipt by letter—the prisoner said that he had called to consult me with reference to a debt of 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., which a person of the name of Armstrong owed him—he said it was for money lent, and he wished me to apply to Armstrong for payment of it—he also stated that Armstrong had been a tenant of a house of his at Vauxhall; that Armstrong had given him notice to quit, which had expired on the Michaelmas quarter day preceding; that Armstrong had not given up possession at the time, but had remained five or six weeks over the quarter day, and he wished to know whether he could recover any rent for that time—I promised to write to Armstrong for the payment of the debt, and also see what I could do with regard to the rent—he produced a sovereign, and said, "I had better pay you for your expenses"—I said, "I will not take it at present, for I may get the expenses of Armstrong"—the Mr. Rowe who was my client had left the house in which he had resided, and had called on me, and left his card, but I had mislaid the card, and I said to the prisoner, "By the by, where do you live now?"—he pulled a</p>
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<p>letter out of his pocket, having a post mark upon it, with "Mr. Charles Rowe, 3, Warwick-street, Vauxhall-bridge-road," upon it—he said, "That is my address"—I copied it down upon a piece of paper, and returned the letter to him—at the same interview he told me that he had let his house again, and he wished to know what the expense of a lease would be—I told him, from six to eight guineas; and he then left, with the little boy, in the same
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi>—I wrote to Armstrong on that same day, applying for payment of the debt) and for a quarter's rent—Armstrong called upon me on Wed
<lb/>nesday, 20th Nov.—I mean the person who was tried and convicted here about five years ago—he produced the letter I had written to him—after Armstrong left, I wrote a letter to Mr. Howe; but before I sent it, the pri
<lb/>soner called—it was about ten minutes after Armstrong had left—he came in the
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi> with the little boy, as before—I read to him the letter that I had written—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">reads</hi>:" 6, Bernard-street, Russell-square, 20th Nov., 1850. Dear Sir,—Mr. Armstrong has called upon me, and, after some conversation, he has agreed to pay the 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and half a quarter's rent, 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. He wishes to have the deeds which you hold, and proposes calling this after
<lb/>noon, at 4 o'clock, to settle. I shall feel obliged, therefore, if you would call on me at that time with the deeds, or deliver them to the bearer")—That was the substance of what Armstrong had told me—the prisoner said he was very pleased that I had succeeded in getting half a quarter's rent for him, and proposed making me some present, which I did not accept—I said, "He tells me that you have some deeds of his that you hold as secu
<lb/>rity for the 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—he said, "Oh, yes; they relate to his wife's property; I have deposited them with a friend of mine, who has advanced me some money upon them; would you let me have the money to get them, and I will let you have them before 3 o'clock, in order that you may settle when Armstrong calls?" and, believing him to be the Mr. Howe with whom I had business, I gave him a cheque for 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have that cheque here—it has been returned to me by my bankers, as paid—the amount of the cheque is 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the debt was 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the prisoner said to me, "I have agreed with the tenant who has taken my house to pay 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for the lease; will you do it for that)"—I said I would—he then told me to deduct the 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from the amount which I had to give him, which I did—he said he would return to me with the deeds at 3 o'clock, without fail—I never saw him again until he was apprehended upon some other charge—I think he was then going by the name of Rickaby—that was in 1853 or 1854; I am not sure which—he was apprehended upon another charge, and I went to the police office to have a look at him—at the time this matter occurred I did all I possibly could to meet with him—I had large handbills printed, and circu
<lb/>lated about London, one of which I have here—I took every possible step to have him apprehended—when I saw him at Worship-street, I did not pursue him; I had been put to so much expense and trouble—I did not see anything more of him until the other day, when he was apprehended upon another charge—I then felt it right to go on with this; I had so many communications made to me with respect to him, that I said I would prose
<lb/>cute—I never saw Armstrong again until he was apprehended, and tried here, in 1851.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> You are a lawyer, are you not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am a solicitor—when you came to me, I had taken out my certificate—I had a client named Rowe—he had been my client for three or four years—as far as I recollect, he was residing at Denmark-place or row, Islington—I had written several letters to him—I had never seen him—it was not house</p>
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<p>property for which I was concerned for him—you instructed me first to write to Mr. Joseph Armstrong for payment of a debt of 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it was not 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I swear that—I cannot say that you said you wanted 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to redeem the deeds—you did not name any sum—I will swear it was not 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—when I proffered to give you a cheque for this money, you did not say that you did not want the money, nothing of the sort—I think Mr. Rowe died about five or six months after this transaction—I saw his death in the paper—I think his Christian name was Peter—it was not Charles, certainly—when I found that you did not come again, I sent to Mr. Rowe, my client—I sent a message—the clerk is not here whom I sent—I sent to his old address—I told the clerk to go and see Mr. Rowe—if he did not find him at that address, I dare say he found out where to go to—he found him—I am not quite sure which clerk I sent—I rather think his name is Jones—I sent him to inquire after Mr. Rowe—I was not quite sure his Christian name was Peter—when he came back, he told me that he had seen Mr. Rowe—he gave me a description of him, which did not at all resemble you.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-11" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-11" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-11" type="surname" value="DAVIS"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-11" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I am a
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi> driver and proprietor, and was so in 1851. On 20th Nov., 1850, I was called from the stand near Kennington Church by a little boy, to take up, in Camberwell New-road, a man apparently blind, and another one with him—I think the blind man was a taller man than the prisoner—I would not swear it was not him—the other man was Armstrong—I was a witness here against him—I drove to No. 6, Bernard-street, Russell-square—one of the gentlemen went away, and I went to a public-house at the corner of Henrietta-street—the blind man stopped in the
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi> along with the boy and another one—I think there were four altogether—it is so long ago, I forget which it was that went away—I gave Armstrong into custody afterwards, for a reward, and likewise for merit—(
<hi rend="italic">This witness was evidently intoxicated, and his examination was not pursued</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-12" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-12" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-12" type="surname" value="PUMFREY"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-12" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MART ANN PUMFREY</persName> </hi>. In 1850 I lived at No. 9, John's-place, Com
<lb/>mercial New-road. My father kept the house a little before Christmas, 1850—a blind man used to live in Cranmer-road, and I used to work there as a servant—the prisoner is the man—I knew him by the name of Captain Rattan—I used to go backwards and forwards morning and evening—I remember Armstrong, who was tried here—I saw him at the prisoner's, and knew him by the name of Charles—I never heard his surname—he appeared to be very intimate with the prisoner, and was on equal terms with him—I saw him, I think, on 27th Nov., and did not see him again till he was apprehended on another charge—I was dismissed on 28th Nov., by James Rattan, a son of the prisoner's, who said that his father had gone into the country.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Were you occasional servant only?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was there every day—every one who applied for you applied the name of Captain to you—I know nothing about Armstrong owing you money—the first day that you went out was Wednesday, 18th Nov.—I usually left at 6 or 7 o'clock in the evening, not at 1 o'clock in the day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Armstrong, whom you knew by the name of Charles, was the person you afterwards saw tried?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-13" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-13" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-13" type="surname" value="ABRAHART"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-13" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE ABRAHART</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Henry Abrahart. In 1850 we lived at No. 3, Warwick-street, Vauxhall-bridge-road—I was a witness against Charles Rowe, and heard him tried and convicted in the name of Armstrong—I keep a tobacconist's shop—Anderson came there inthe</p>
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<p>name of Rowe, and asked me if I would allow him to have a letter addressed to my house—I took in letters addressed, "Charles Rowe, Esq., No. 3, Warwick-street, Vauxhall-bridge-road," and he called for them, and took away two.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Do you allude to me when you say Charles Howe called?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not know you—I never saw you till I saw you here.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">W. JUSTICE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you write to Kowe, at No. 3, War
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not send any letter through the poet—I did not write to Rowe, except the letter produced and read to the Court.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-14" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-14" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-14" type="surname" value="SIMPKINS"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-14" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SIMPKINS</persName> </hi>. I am a hair dresser, of Nine Elms. In 1850, a man named Armstrong came to my shop, and said that he had advertised for the situation of a gardener, and asked me to take letters in for him if they came—two letters came—he got two of them, and I believe Mr. Justice has got the third.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WALTER JUSTICE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The prisoner told me to apply to Arm
<lb/>strong, and the address he gave was, "Nine Elms, Wandsworth-road," and this is the letter I wrote—(
<hi rend="italic">This was signed by the prosecutor, and stated that unless the money was paid by 11 o'clock next day, proceedings would be commenced. Dated 21st Nov.</hi>, 1850).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WILLIAM SIMPKINS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you believe in a future state?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do—I have seen you before in different parts, and you have called upon me—you are the person who asked me to take in letters for Anderson—I have seen you walking in the Wandsworth-road, but have not spoken to you—I never had business with you, directly or indirectly—my shop will hold thirty or forty persons.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> It would not hold four persons.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> Then, very likely you have been there—the last time I saw you was in 1850 or 1851—I think you had a young lady with you on one occasion.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-15" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-15" type="gender" value="indeterminate"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-15" type="surname" value="MARSHALL"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-15" type="given" value="KERRICK UDOLPHUS"/>KERRICK UDOLPHUS MARSHALL</persName> </hi>. I was a clerk in the London and West
<lb/>minster Bank, Hoi born branch, at this time—I cashed this cheque (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I have no means of referring to the books, but I have no doubt I did so on the day it bears date, and here are the numbers of the notes on the back of it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I ever present that cheque to you for payment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not that I am aware of, but I have a strong presentiment that a man named Armstrong presented it; decidedly not you, as far as my recollection goes—I think he almost confessed it on the trial.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you cash it on the same day?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, the 20th—it is the pass book keeper's duty to put the stamp on.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I think I must leave the case in your hands; under my present circumstances and affliction, I am quite inadequate to address the Jury upon it; I am taken quite by surprise; I did, under your Lord
<lb/>ship's advice, plead not guilty, and I leave it to you and the gentlemen of the Jury; but I wish to ask the prosecutor a question.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">WALTER JUSTICE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did not you send a person, about two years ago, or rather better, to where I was then living, Fitzroy-place, representing himself as a clerk, and saying that he would never trouble me again in the matter if I gave him 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Never—I never sent to you; I saw you on another charge about two years ago—I did not prosecute you, because I had been put to so much expense and trouble—I never made any offer to compromise the matter, I never saw you from that day—I under
<lb/>stand that you called one day, and wanted to see me, and I sent out a message that I would not see you; I was in the house at the time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-156-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-156-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def1-157-18560107" type="age" value="57"/>
<interp inst="def1-157-18560107" type="surname" value="RICKABY"/>
<interp inst="def1-157-18560107" type="given" value="CHARLES ALFRED"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES ALFRED RICKABY</hi> </persName> was again indicted, with
<persName id="def2-157-18560107" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-157-18560107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-157-18560107" type="age" value="21"/>
<interp inst="def2-157-18560107" type="surname" value="RICKABY"/>
<interp inst="def2-157-18560107" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES RICKABY</hi> </persName> and
<persName id="def3-157-18560107" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def3-157-18560107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def3-157-18560107" type="surname" value="COX"/>
<interp inst="def3-157-18560107" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM COX</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18560107-157-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-157-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="deception"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-157-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="forgery"/>, for feloniously forging and uttering a promissory note for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. with intent to defraud.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-19" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-19" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-19" type="surname" value="HOWARD"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-19" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED HOWARD</persName> </hi>. I am A solicitor) and carry on business at No. 3, Angel court, Throgmorton-street, in partnership with Mr. Getty. On 12th Sept last, the elder prisoner called at my office; he was in my room when I arrived—he rose and addressed me, saying, "Mr. Howard, I pre
<lb/>sume"—I said, "Yes," and begged him to be seated, and asked him his name—he gave me his card, I think it was "Mr. Charles Alfred Rickaby," in print, and "29, Trevor-square, Knightsbridge," in writing—I said, "To whom am I indebted for the introduction?"—he made no answer to that, but went on, and I did not interrupt him—he said he wished me to advise him whether he could recover, against a party who was in this country, a sum of 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. which he had lent in Ireland; that the party denied his liability on that ground—I then asked him again for an introduction, and he then mentioned the name of Dr. Thompson—I said, "Oh, then, it is not me you want to consult, it is on behalf of Mr. Thompson"—Mr. Thompson had been an articled clerk of ours, and is now a solicitor in Lincoln's Inn
<lb/>fields he was out of town, and we had agreed to conduct any business for him during his absence—the prisoner assented to that remark—I then gave him my advice that the debt could be recovered—he gave me the name of the debtor as "Howard Clinton, No. 84, Connaught-terrace, Edgware-road"—I asked him if he had no security—he said he had not; the money had been lent as between gentlemen, eras between one gentleman and another—he also remarked that he should be willing to take half in cash and a pro
<lb/>missory note or bill for the remainder—I wrote to Mr. Howard Clinton for payment, and received a reply—I have the letters here—I eventually received 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in bank notes, and a promissory note, enclosed in a letter, brought to me by a little boy—I gave a receipt to the boy—this is it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-20" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-20" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-20" type="surname" value="NEWSTEAD"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-20" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH NEWSTEAD</persName> </hi>. I know James Rickaby—I am now clerk to Mr. Crockford, of the
<hi rend="italic">Law Times</hi> office—I was clerk to Mr. Watkins, of the "Directory," at the time I knew James Rickaby; he was employed there as a canvasser—I believe this letter signed "Howard Clinton" to be his handwriting.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi> (
<hi rend="italic">for James Rickaby and Cox</hi>).
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long was he in Mr. Watkins's employment?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was employed at two different periods, from April, 1854, till Nov.—he had to sign the time book night and morning—I speak to his handwriting from that, and from his general letters, which I have here—they are letters addressed to Mr. Wat
<lb/>kins, not to me; Mr. Watkins handed them to me—I am sorry to be obliged to come here against him, for he behaved very well while with us.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you frequent opportunities of seeing him write his name?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Every day—(
<hi rend="italic">letter read</hi>; "No. 84, Connaught-terrace, Edg
<lb/>ware-road. Sept 10th, 1805. Gentlemen,—According to my proposal, and the answer I received from Mr. Rickaby, I have enclosed the cash, namely, 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and my promissory note for 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Be kind enough to send by bearer an acknowledgment for the same. Yours respectfully, Howard Clinton. To Messrs. Gatty and Howard.")</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-21" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-21" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-21" type="surname" value="CLARKE"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-21" type="given" value="EMILY"/>EMILY CLARKE</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, residing at No. 15, Park-road, Stock
<lb/>well. I know Cox—I think I know his handwriting—I think two of these letters, marked "B" and "D," are his writing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long is it since you have known Cox?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He</p>
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<p>came to look at some furniture at my house, on 5th Nov.; it was advertised for sale—I had no acquaintance with him, I never saw him before, and never since, till he was at the police court—I know his writing from his writing out an agreement between Mr. Bickaby and myself—that was the only occa
<lb/>sion upon which I saw him write—to the best of my belief these letters are in his writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> In making this agreement was he acting as the agent of the elder Bickaby?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; they were all together—the two younger pri
<lb/>soners came first, on 5th Nov., and afterwards they all came together—they were going to buy my furniture—(
<hi rend="italic">letters read</hi>: "No. 29, Trevor-square, Knightsbridge. Dear Sir,—Having just received your note, and in reply beg to say that I will accede to the terms; his servant has just called, who I have told his master's proposals will be acceded to. Yours respectfully, C. A. Rickaby. Mr. Howard."—"No. 29, Trevor-square, Knightsbridge. Dear Sir,—Yours of yesterday came to hand, and am sorry to inform you that my being seriously indisposed prevents my waiting upon you; but wishing to see you upon more urgent business, should be glad of a personal inter
<lb/>view with
<hi rend="italic">yourself</hi>, at my house, when you can make it convenient to call; I am sure to be at home. I am, dear Sir, yours respectfully, C. A. Rickaby.—Howard, Esq., Angel-court, City.")</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-22" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-22" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-22" type="surname" value="HOWARD"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-22" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED HOWARD</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I received this letter, signed, "Howard Clinton, per T. Harrison"—I do not know whose handwriting it is—I received it in reply to the letter I wrote at the request of the elder Rickaby.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-23" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-23" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-23" type="surname" value="BALDWIN"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-23" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD BALDWIN</persName> </hi>. I served a notice to produce on each of the defend
<lb/>ants (
<hi rend="italic">tills being ready was a notice to produce two letters, dated 12th and 17th Sept., addressed to Howard Clinton, and three of 15th, 17th, and 18th Sept., addressed to C. A. Rickaby; and all other documents and papers in their custody and possession.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-24" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-24" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-24" type="surname" value="HOWARD"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-24" type="given" value="ALFRED"/>ALFRED HOWARD</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I have my letter book here—it contains a copy of a letter addressed to Howard Clinton—it was taken by machinery—I did not compare it, but it must be a correct verbatim copy—I can speak from my recollection of my own letter that this copy is correct—(
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "Angel-court, Throgmorton-street, 12th Sept., 1855. Sir,—We are desired by Mr. Charles Alfred Rickaby to apply to you on the subject of a loan made to you some years since, of 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., of which we are directed to obtain an immediate settlement; and in the hope that your compliance with this application will render any further proceedings on our part unnecessary, we are, Sir, your obedient servants, Gatty and Howard. To Howard Clinton, Esq., No. 84, Connaught-terrace, Edgware-road")—I received an answer to that letter—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "No. 84, Connaught-terrace. Sir,—In reply to yours of the 12th, respecting the debt due to Mr. Rickaby, I beg to offer the following terms; viz., 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. down, and my promissory note for the remainder, 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at one month, on Monday, by 12 o'clock; in time for which oblige by letting me have a reply by Monday morning's post from your client, upon whom I have called, but been referred to you, and oblige your humble servant, H. Clinton; per T. Harrison. Messrs. Howard")—I sent a copy of that letter, enclosed to Mr. Rickaby, on the 15th—this is the let
<lb/>ter I sent (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "Dear Sir,—Annexed we beg leave to send you copy of a communication we have just received from Mr. Howard Clinton, upon which we shall be glad to have your directions")—in answer to that I received the letter which has been read—I then received the letter of the 15th, signed "Howard Clinton," enclosing the 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and the promissory note, to which I replied, enclosing a receipt; on the same day I wrote to Mr. Rickaby,</p>
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<p>informing him of this, and in consequence of his reply, I went to Trevor-square on 19th Sept., the door was opened by Cox—(I omitted to state that Cox accompanied Rickaby to my office on the first occasion, on 12th Sept., but he did not come into my private office, he remained down stairs)—I was shown into the drawing room, and saw Mr. Rickaby—after talking over the other matters of business, I handed him the promissory note, and the bank notes—he said, "You have succeeded beyond my ex
<lb/>pectations, and I suppose if I give you two guineas, that will satisfy the charges in that matter"—I said a guinea would be all our charge—he then said, "I have no small money," and proposed to exchange cheques with me; for him to give me his cheque for 21
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., for mine of 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—I declined that, saying it was quite unecessary—he asked me if the promissory note was all right—I said it was, and read it over to him—the promissory note was in the same handwriting as the letter, signed, "Howard Clinton"—he then said he would call upon me in the course of a lew days, he was unable to make an appointment, not having papers—on Saturday, 22nd Sept, he came to my office, and after making some inquiries as to the means of some gentleman at the bar, with reference to a loan that he proposed to make to him, he asked if I would be kind enough to pass the promissory note, which he remarked had only three days to run, through my bankers—that I also declined—I am not quite certain whether he had the note with him then; my impression is, that he had, from his manner and mode of speaking, but I cannot recollect whether I saw it on that occasion or not, I have tried to refresh my recollection—I never saw him again until he was in custody at the police court.</p>
<hi rend="italic">C. A. Rickaby. Q.</hi> You state that when I waited upon you, I pretended that I was recommended by Dr. Thompson?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I understood so—you did not show me a letter from Dr. Thompson to myself—I swear that—I have not got the promissory note here—I swear that it was in the same handwriting as the letter signed Howard Clinton, my experience in handwriting satisfies me of that—I should say that I compared them previous to parting with the promissory note, I think I could swear that I did—my suspicions were slightly excited from, the character of the notes that came in the letter; they had very peculiar marks about them, and I did not form a very favour
<lb/>able opinion of my correspondent, Mr. Howard Clinton; that made me look very cautiously and carefully—I do not know that Dr. Thompson was your professional attendant, I have since heard that you employed him afterwards.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-25" type="given" value="AGNES"/>AGNES JONES</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of John Edward Jones, a stationer, of No. 84, Connaught terrace, Edgware-road. On 13th Sept last the prisoner, James Rickaby, came to our shop and asked if I would receive some letters for him—I said, "Yes"—it is a thing that we often do—he gave me 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for my trouble—he said the letters would be addressed to Howard Clinton—next day, I think, a letter came with that address, he called, and I gave it him—there was no such person as Howard Clinton living there at that time, or at any other that I know of—I have lived there two year.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you know anything of the person who you say was James Rickaby, before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I never saw him before that I remember—he came three times, twice I saw him, and once my husband saw him—I have said that the person who came wore a moustache—I am certain the prisoner is the person, for he is extremely like a friend of my father's, and I noticed the resemblance at the time—the first time I saw him was in the</p>
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<p>afternoon, I do not recollect what time it was when I saw him again—I did not see him again until he was at the police court, rather more than a month afterwards—he was then in the dock—a policeman came for me—he asked me if I could recognise him—I said he had a moustache—I did not say I should know him by the moustache, because so many persons have a moustache now; I knew I should recollect him from his resemblance to the gentleman I knew.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long was he with you the first time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not two minutes, and about the same time on the second occasion—we had no other conversation, except about receiving the letters—I am quite positive he is the person.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-26" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN FRASER</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 56, Hilton-street, Dorset-square—Charles Alfred Bickaby occupied apartments at my father's house there—his son did not—on the day after he was taken into custody I found this receipt in a drawer in the room which he occupied—(
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "London, Sept. 17, 1855. Received of Howard Clinton, Esq., the sum of seventy pounds, on account of 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. money lent to him by Charles Alfred Bickaby, Esq.—For C. A. Bickaby, Gatty and Howard.")</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HOWARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I have not made any inquiry to ascertain whether there is such a person as Howard Clinton.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-27" type="given" value="STEPHEN"/>STEPHEN STANDIDGE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, P</hi> 200). I made inquiry for Howard Clinton at No. 84, Connaught-terrace, but nowhere else.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">submitted that there was no case against Cox; that the pro
<lb/>missory note not being produced made it very doubtful whether the forgery could be established as against either prisoner, and that no uttering was proved.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that there was evidence for the Jury of forgery by James Rickaby, and against the elder prisoner as an accessory before the fact, which verdict the Jury were enabled to find under Lord Campbell's Act; although he was not so charged by the indictment. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">considered the ease as against Cox very slight, but as to the others there was evidence for the Jury.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="italic">C. A. Rickaby's Defence.</hi> It is quite evident that Cox has been put into this indictment to prevent my calling him; I wished to do so, to prove that this was not the handwriting of my eon; and if it is the intention of the Court to strike him out of the record, perhaps he may be acquitted now, that I may put him into the box to contradict the evidence of Mr. Howard—(
<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">declined to take a verdict as to Cox until the close of the case</hi>) as to Mrs. Jones, I am certain she has told an untruth; the receipt was found in my possession; I paid Mr. Howard Clinton's debts before he went to America; and I have other papers of his which were taken possession of by Emmerson, the policeman; they would show that there is a Howard Clinton in existence, and that he signed the promissory note; I fully ex
<lb/>pected he would be here; I traversed this case from last Session upon an affidavit, in which I swore that he was a material and necessary witness, and that he might be here this Session, which commenced on the 17th; but from communications I have had, I believe he will not be in town before the 12th; therefore, of course, I cannot call him; he did owe me the money, and he paid me; I certainly asked Mr. Howard to pass the note through his bankers, but he said he did not keep a banker; I never asked him to change cheques; it is absurd; what motive could I have in doing so? I was recommended to him by Dr. Thompson, and my son could prove it.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES ALFRED RICKABY</hi>
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<interp inst="t18560107-157-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>,**
<hi rend="italic">as an accessory before the fact.</hi> Aged 57.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES KICKABY</hi>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>**
<hi rend="italic">of uttering.</hi> </rs> Aged 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-157-18560107 t18560107-157-punishment-2"/>Four Years Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">COX</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-157-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner C. A. Hickaby was tried and convicted at this Court in Feb.</hi>, 1840,
<hi rend="italic">and again in May</hi>, 1853;
<hi rend="italic">and James Rickaby in Feb.</hi>, 1853.)</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, January</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1856.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GUBNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and the Fifth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-159-offence-1 t18560107-name-31"/> Hudson Bay Company,</persName> his masters: to which he</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-159-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 46.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-159-18560107 t18560107-159-punishment-4"/>Confined Nine Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in money; the property of
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<persName id="t18560107-name-34" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-34" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CHILDS</persName> </hi>. On 20th Dec. I was at the corner of Fenchurch-street about 4 o'clock—there was a stoppage—I saw Mrs. Evans get out of an omnibus—the prisoner and other boys got round her—the prisoner got by her side, lifted up her clothes, and took her purse out of her pocket—he put his hand behind him—I seized his hand with the purse in itr—he dropped it, and I gave it to a policeman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> He came and took hold of my hand, and hit me.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I took his hand—I did not hit him.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 530). The prisoner was given into my custody—this purse was given to me at the station—I found on the prisoner these two handkerchiefs, one round his neck, the other in his pocket.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-160-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.* Aged 13.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-160-18560107 t18560107-160-punishment-5"/>Confined Nine Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18560107-162-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/> stealing 9 handkerchiefs, value 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-162-offence-1 t18560107-name-41"/>Thomas Dosseter</persName>: to which</rs> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BROWNING</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560107-162-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-162-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560107-162-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-162-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-162-18560107 t18560107-162-punishment-7"/>Confined Three Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.;
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>, on
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<join result="offenceCrimeDate" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-163-offence-1 t18560107-cd-3"/> 17th Dec</rs>., a forged warrant for the payment of money; with intent to defraud: to which he</rs> </p>
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<lb/>liam Bartram</persName>, and stealing from his person 1 watch, value 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; his goods.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-47" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY PURCHASE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, H</hi> 70). I was on duty on the morning of 26th Dec., and my attention was attracted by a sound as if a man was choking—I looked across the street, and saw the prosecutor in a stooping position, and the prisoners one on each side of him, striking him—in an instant they ran towards me—I ran, and caught Williams in my right hand—I asked him what he was running for—he made me no answer—Brown was coming up—I took him with my left hand, and asked him what he was running for—he said a gentleman had been knocked down—I said, "I suppose you know something about it?"—he said, "No, I don't"—I took them across, and said to the prosecutor, "What is the matter?"—he said, "They have knocked me down, and taken my watch and chain"—I took the prisoners to the station, and found on Brown this watch—I went back to the place, and found this shirt button—I went back again after
<lb/>wards, and over a fence I found this watch, which the prosecutor claims—from the time I saw the prisoners striking the prosecutor till I took them, I did not lose sight of them—I did not see any other men there—I saw two women.'</p>
<hi rend="italic">Brown.</hi> He says he saw me run away from the man; I ran towards him.
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi>, They were both running away from the prosecutor as fast as they could run.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-164-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-164-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 22.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BROWN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560107-164-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-164-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-164-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 21.</p>
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-164-18560107 t18560107-164-punishment-9"/>Four Years Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="italic">There was another indictment against Brown for a like offence.</hi>)</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1856.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDNEY</hi>; and Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">For cases tried this day, see Kent and Surrey Cases.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, January</hi> 8
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1856.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">KENNEDY</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GURNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Rusell Gurney, Esq., and the Sixth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-166-18560107 t18560107-166-punishment-11"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">EMMA SMITH</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18560107-167-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence: to which she</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560107-167-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<interp inst="t18560107-167-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 19.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-167-18560107 t18560107-167-punishment-12"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def1-168-18560107" type="age" value="30"/>
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<interp inst="def1-168-18560107" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE BAILET</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18560107-168-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-168-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-168-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence: to which he</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560107-168-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-168-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560107-168-punishment-13" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-168-18560107 t18560107-168-punishment-13"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def1-169-18560107" type="age" value="57"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM EDWARD KING</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18560107-169-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-169-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-169-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence: to which he</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560107-169-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-169-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-169-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 57.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-169-18560107 t18560107-169-punishment-14"/>Confined Nine Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<rs id="t18560107-170-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-170-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-170-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, unlawfully having counterfeit coin in his possession: to which he</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18560107-170-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-170-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-170-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 30.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18560107-170-punishment-15" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-170-18560107 t18560107-170-punishment-15"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH EVANS</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18560107-171-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18560107-171-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-171-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-55" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH GILBERT</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a chandler's shop, in Sloane-street, Chelsea. On Saturday, 29th Dec., the prisoner came, about 9 o'clock in the evening, for half an ounce of tobacco—he paid me with a half crown—I weighed it, and told him it was not a good one—he said he was not aware of it—I asked how he came by it—he said he took it in payment for his work—I called my brother in law down stain, and he said he would go with the prisoner to where he took it—the prisoner said it was over West
<lb/>minster-bridge—I said he was paid a long way off—he said, I might think what I liked; it would be a great loss to him—I gave my brother in law the half crown, and he gave it me again—I asked the prisoner if he could pay me with any other money—he said he had no more about him—he left the half crown, and went away—I laid the half crown on the tobacco shelf, and afterwards gave it to the officer—I am sure it was the same.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-56" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS ELKLNS</persName> </hi>. I am brother in law to the last witness, and lodge with her. On Saturday night, 29th Dec., I was called into the shop—the prisoner was there—the last witness gave me half a crown—I examined it, and returned it to her—it was a bad one—the prisoner said he got it from his employ, over Westminster-bridge—I offered to go there—he left the shop—I told him I would give him in charge if he did not—I followed him, and saw him go to Mr. Eldridge's shop, a baker, in Exeter-street, Chelsea—he came out again, and I went in there; and from what they said to me, I came out, and gave the prisoner into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> When you came down what did you say to me I
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I asked where you got the half crown, and you said from your work, over West
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<p>bridge—I said I would go with you—you said, "I don't know," or something of that kind—I said, "The sooner you are off the better, or I will give you in charge"—you did not say you would go with me, nor that I might go with you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-57" type="surname" value="ELDRIDGE"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-57" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA ELDRIDGE</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Edward Eldridge, a baker, in Exeter-street. On the evening of 29th Dec. the prisoner came for a half quartern loaf—it came to 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., he paid me with a half crown—I gave him the loaf and the change, and immediately he left, the last witness came in—he spoke to me, and I found the half crown was light—I had not parted with it, I had kept it in my hand till the officer came, and I gave it to him—the prisoner was then in custody.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-58" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WISE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, B</hi> 75). I was called, and took the prisoner a little way from the door, he was charged with passing a bad half crown—he said, "All right, I will go with you back, don't lead me"—I took him back to Mrs. Eldridge, and received this half crown—I received this other half crown from Gilbert.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-59" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to the Royal Mint—these are both bad, and from one die—they are brass, and electrotyped.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> This is the first time I was ever locked up; I will never come again.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-171-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 30.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-171-18560107 t18560107-171-punishment-16"/>Confined Nine Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">PATRICK MURRAY</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ELLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-61" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-61" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY VICKEBS</persName> </hi>. My mother keeps the Orange Tree, at Colney Hatch—the prisoner came there on 14th Dec., he had some liquor which came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. he paid me with ft half crown, I examined it—it was bad—I told him so, and returned it to him—he paid me with good money, I think a 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. piece—I generally detect bad money, I am sure the half crown was bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I never was in the house.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi>: I am sure he is the same person—I saw him again at the police station, about a week afterwards—he was about ten minutes in the house, he was in front of the bar—ours is a country public house, we have not a great many customers—he was not pointed out to me at the police office—he came out of the cell.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-62" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-62" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GUTTS</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, and live at Whetstone—I was at the Orange Tree on that evening—the prisoner came there and passed a bad half crown—I had not seen him before—I followed him along the road, after he left, to see where he went—as I and a friend were following him, he said he thought it was a very great insult for us to follow him, and he
<hi rend="italic">up</hi> with his fist and knocked me down—I have no doubt at all he is the man—he went on, I got up and followed him again, and he knocked me down again—my friend went for a policeman—the prisoner knocked me down again with a knock on the forehead, and ran away.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-63" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-63" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES STEPHENS</persName> </hi>. I live at Wood-green. On Saturday evening, 15th Dec., the prisoner came to my father's house, the Nag's Head—he asked for a glass of ale, and offered me a half crown, it was a bad one—I took another half crown out of the. drawer and balanced them together—he gave me a good one, and took the bad one away—I afterwards went with the policeman and saw him about a mile from the house, he appeared to be intoxicated.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-64" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH WALLEDGE</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps a general shop at Wood
<lb/>green. On Saturday evening, 15th Dec., the prisoner came, between 6 and 7 o'clock, for half an ounce of tobacco—he paid me with a half crown, I examined it, but did not think it was bad—while I was examining it he</p>
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<p>touched the lamp with his hat, which made it shake—I could not see exactly—I gave him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; change, and he went out—as he was going I tried the half crown with my teeth, and found it was bad, I went to the door and called him, but he ran away as fast at he could—I called all the way along the village, "Stop thief!" thinking I should get some one to stop him, but he got away—I am sore he is the person, I went to the station to identify him—I gave the officer the half-crown.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> How far was I from the shop when you called me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot say, I saw you at the end of my window—you went through the gateway, you ran all the way along, and I after you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-65" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM PHIPPS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, N</hi> 231). The prisoner was given into my charge opposite the railway station, at Hornsey, about a mile from the shop of the last witness—he was walking, I told him what I took him for—he said if he did wrong he was willing to make it all right—I took him to the station, and found on him 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good silver, and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—I received, this half crown from Mrs. Walledge.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-66" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-66" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-66" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-66" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> The woman has been paid her money since; I know nothing about the half crown.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-172-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 40.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ELLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-68" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-68" type="given" value="ALICE REECE"/>ALICE REECE JOHNSON</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Joseph Johnson, a grocer, at Chiswick. In the evening of 29th Dec. the prisoner came for half an ounce of tobacco—I noticed when he came into the shop he walked lame—I served him, and he placed a half crown on the counter—I gave him change, two shillings, and 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in halfpence—he then left the shop, and all his lameness was gone—I took the half crown from the ledge where I had placed it, looked at it, and went after the prisoner, but he was gone—I immediately fell into the arms of Sergeant Revining—he went back with me—I marked the half crown, and gave it him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you put it with any other money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I had other half-crowns, but I had put this one on the ledge behind, from having taken a bad sovereign and a bad half sovereign lately—I never put any money into the till that I take from strangers till I have well examined it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-69" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-69" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MART ANN POULTON</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer, and live in Chiswick. On Satur
<lb/>day night, 29th Dec., between 7 and 8 o'clock, the prisoner came for half an ounce of tobacco—it came to 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>—I served him—he placed a half crown down—I took it up—it being a new one, I bit it—he said, "Never fear it, mistress"—I said that, to my misfortune, I had had so much bad money—I put the half crown into my pocket, where I had no other money—I gave the prisoner two shillings and 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I afterwards looked at the half crown—I did not believe it was bad—I put it aside till the morning—I showed it to the policeman—I marked it, and gave it to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you ever seen the prisoner before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, he had come to my shop for half an ounce of tobacco, not very often—I might have seen him once or twice—I did not know his name, but that is the man—I cannot say how long before I had seen him, not so long as six months—I had seen him once or twice before—this happened on Saturday night—I saw him afterwards, at the police station—he was not in custody, but I knew him in a moment—he came into the room—when the</p>
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<p>police sergeant came to me, he said, "I understand you had some bad money from a man?"—I said, "Yes"—he said, "What sort of dress had he on?"—I told him—he told me he had the man in custody—I went and saw him, and said, "That is the man."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ELLIS</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> On any of those former occasions did you observe whether he was lame?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, he was not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-70" type="surname" value="SMITH"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-70" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMITH</persName> </hi>. I keep a beer shop at Turnham Green. On Saturday evening, 29th Dec., the prisoner came in about 9 o'clock for a pint of ale—it came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—my wife served him—he put down a half crown—my wife pushed it to me on the counter—I took it in my hand, and did not like the feel of it—I turned to the table, and rung it—it was bad—while I was examining it my wife gave the prisoner the change, and he left the house with it—I went out in search of him—I found him at the George the Fourth—I called him out, and told him he had passed a bad half crown at my place—he said he had not—I told him a second time, and cautioned him, and he said I was a d—d liar—I gave him into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you not say, "If you don't return the money, I will have you locked up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and he said, "I will see you d—d I first"—I knew him before—he has been in my house, but has never sat down—he has called, and had a pint of ale or beer—I did not take the half crown of him, my wife pushed it along the counter—our counter is zinc, and I rung the half crown on the table in the bar parlour—I did not discover it to be bad till I rung it—I suppose the George the Fourth is from eighty to a hundred yards from my house—the prisoner did not give me a good half crown afterwards—I did not take it of him—I did not see him pay it to my wife—I was not present when he paid it—I cannot say whether I was in the back room or not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you sure that the half crown you gave to the police sergeant was the one the prisoner passed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I will swear to that.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-71" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM REVISING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, T</hi> 7). The prisoner was given into my custody on 29th Dec., by the last witness, about 10 o'clock, with this half crown—I got this other from Mr. Johnson, and this from Mrs. Poulton—I asked the prisoner if he had been at Chiswick that night—he said he had not, and he had not been there for a month, or from that to two months.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you hear him say, after that, that he had changed two half crowns?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yea, he said he had changed two half crowns that evening, he did not know whether they were bad or good.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How far is where you took him from Chiswick?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About 300 yards—I found on him 6
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. in silver, all good, and 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-72" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These half crowns are all bad, and from one die.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-173-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 22.—
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his good character.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ELLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-74" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-74" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY MADDOCKS</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Victoria, at Ealing. On 29th Dec., the prisoner came about half past 6 o'clock in the evening; he asked for half a quartern of gin—it came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; he paid me with a shilling—I did not detect it as being bad then—I gave him the change—I then looked at the shilling, and put it into the drawer—Mr. Wallace said something to me, and I took the shilling up again—I am sure I took the same shilling, I</p>
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<p>had not another—I examined it, found it was bad, I marked it, and gave it to the policeman—I am sure the prisoner is the person—I had not known him before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When did you Me him again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the Monday follow
<lb/>ing, at Brentford, before the Magistrate—there was another one there, and I fixed on the prisoner as being the person—the other person was a man named Johnsqn.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> How can you swear to the shilling, when it was pot with other silver?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I had no other shilling—only half crowns, sixpences, and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. pieces.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-75" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES MITCHELL</persName> </hi>. I keep the Castle, at Baling. On 29th Dec., I saw the prisoner between 6 and 7 o'clock in the evening; he came for half a quartern of gin—I served him—it came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; he gave me a shilling—I put it in the detector and found it bad; I brought it back to him, and asked him how many he had got of them—he said two or three—I said I should like to see them—he gave me a good sixpence—I took for the gin, and kept the shillmg—I afterwards gave it to the policeman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-76" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WALLACE</persName> </hi>. I live at Ealing. On Saturday evening, 29th Dec., I was in the Royal Oak beer shop, about 6 o'clock—the prisoner was there in company with another man named Johnson, who was afterwards taken into custody with him—they had some beer and some refreshment—on the same evening, I was at the Victoria—the prisoner came in and had some gin—he put down a shilling to pay Mary Haddocks, the barmaid—I spoke to her about the shilling, and she examined it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-77" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SLONES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, T</hi> 17). I was on duty on 29th Dec.—I went to the Castle public house; I got this shilling from Mr. Mitchell, and I took the prisoner—I found on him 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in halfpence—I afterwards took Johnson, I found on him 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper, six sixpences, four 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. pieces, and one shilling, all good—I received this other shilling from Mary Maddocks.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-78" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi> These are both bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> It is the first time; I hope you will have mercy on me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-174-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY WERNHAM</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ELLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-80" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-80" type="given" value="STEPHEN LONGMAN"/>STEPHEN LONGMAN CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am a butcher, and live in High-street, Aldgate. On 21st Dec., the prisoner came and bought two kidneys, they came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; she gave me a sixpence, I gave her change, and passed the same sixpence to Mrs. Bodenham—it had not been out of my sight—the prisoner went away, and in a few minutes Mrs. Bodenham brought back a sixpence—I examined it, and found it was bad—I kept it separate from other coin till I gave it to the officer—I do not know that I had ever seen the prisoner before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When did you see her again?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not before the third examination, but I saw her again the same day—Mrs. Bodenham brought back a sixpence—I could not say it was the one I had given her—we agreed that we would lose 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. apiece—I gave her 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and she gave me the sixpence.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-81" type="given" value="MARTHA"/>MARTHA BODENHAM</persName> </hi>. On 21st Dec., I was at Mr. Clark's—he gave me a sixpence, I took it to a baker's shop opposite—I offered it to the baker, and he refused it—it was not out of my sight—I carried it back to Mr. Clark's—I am sure it was the same, I had no other money.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How came you to take 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. of Mr. Clark?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He refused to change the sixpence—the baker pat it in his mouth, and bit it, and said it was bad—I said I took it at the butcher's—the butcher refused to change it—he said, "Would you know the woman again?"—I said, "Yes"—I went after her, and saw her go into Mrs. Abrahams' shop.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-82" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH ABRAHAMS</persName> </hi>. I live in Spectacle-alley. I sell bonnets, and other things—the prisoner came on the morning of 21st Dec, she bought a bonnet of me—she gave me a shilling for it—she gave me a sixpence, and sixpenny-worth of copper—I put the sixpence into my pocket where I had one other sixpence—they were mixed together, but the one I had before was a very worn sixpence, and the one she gave me was very different—it was not worn—the policeman came in soon afterwards, I gave him both the sixpences—they were all I had—this is the one the prisoner gave me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-83" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HUDSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policemcm, A</hi> 445). I took the prisoner—I told her she was charged with uttering a bad sixpence—she said she did not know it was bad—this is the sixpence I received from Mr. Clark, and this one from Mrs. Abrahams.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-84" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both bad, and from one mould—this old battered sixpence is good.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ELLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-86" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-86" type="given" value="WILLIAM PEARSON"/>WILLIAM PEARSON HOUGH</persName> </hi>. I keep the Fortune of War, in Giltspur-street. On 19th Dec. the prisoner came, and had half a quartern of gin—my niece served him, and he paid in coppers—he called for another—I served him, and I was going into the bar parlour—he said, "Are you going to take for this?"—I said, "Yes"—he gave me a half crown—I was trying it, and he said, "No, no, I think I can pay for it; I have change"—I knew it was a bad one—I ran round and fastened the door, and he was taken into custody—I gave the half crown to the policeman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you ever stated before that he offered to give you half-pence when you tried the half crown?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I stated it at the station—I can assure you that he proffered me halfpence, and he wanted to get the half crown out of my possession.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ALLEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 263). I took the prisoner—I found on him a good. half crown and 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers, and three duplicates—he gave his address at No. 3, Copenhagen-street, Islington, which is false—I went there, and no such person is known—there are five or six No. 3's—I went to them all, and he was not known.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-88" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half crown is bad.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-176-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 42.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-176-18560107 t18560107-176-punishment-20"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def2-177-18560107" type="given" value="JAMES"/> JAMES TURNER</persName> </hi>, and
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<interp inst="def3-177-18560107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def3-177-18560107" type="age" value="35"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY WILLIAMS</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18560107-177-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="housebreaking"/>, breaking and entering the dwelling house of
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-92" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-177-offence-1 t18560107-name-92"/>William Gascoine</persName>, and stealing 3 gowns, and other articles, value 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the property of
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-93" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-93" type="surname" value="RAWSON"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-93" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-177-offence-1 t18560107-name-93"/>James Rawson</persName>: and 1 coat and 1 handkerchief, the goods of James Joiner: to which</rs> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">TERRY</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-177-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-177-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 29.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-177-18560107 t18560107-177-punishment-21"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">TURNER
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<interp inst="t18560107-177-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 29.—
<hi rend="italic">And received a good character.—
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<interp inst="t18560107-177-punishment-22" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-177-18560107 t18560107-177-punishment-22"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAMS</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-177-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>PLEADED GUILTY</rs> </hi>.** Aged 35.—
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-178-offence-1 t18560107-name-95"/>Edward Wood</persName>, and stealing 1 coat, and other articles, value 18
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., his property.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-96" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD WOOD</persName> </hi>. I am a carman, and live at No. 67, Old-street. On the evening of 23rd Dec. I left my house about 25 minutes past 6 o'clock—I left no one in it—the doors and windows were all fast and secure; I am very particular—I was fetched home at near 7 o'clock—I found a large mob, and the house in possession of the police—I went inside, and was shown the things that were taken away; two pairs of trowsers, a coat, a waistcoat, a shawl, and a piece of cloth—I had left them in the back room—the coat was hanging up, and the trowsers, waistcoat, and shawl were in the cup-board—I did not miss those things till they were produced—the prisoner was in custody—I found a pane of glass broken in the window of the back room where the cupboard was—there were several persons in the place before I got there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. TALFOURD SALTER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the breaking in the back parlour window large enough to admit a man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, but a man could put his hand in, and lift the catch up, and then he could lift the window—there is a little yard at the back of the house—anybody getting out of the house could get away—they had to get over a little wall to get into the yard—there is a gate that had been opened—it had been fastened by two bolts, one at top, and one at bottom—the cupboard that some of these things were in was not fastened.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 74). About 7 o'clock in the evening on 23rd Dee. I was called to the prosecutor's house in Old-street—I was placed in the front, and the sergeant went to the back—there were a few persons in front of the house—I stood there two or three minutes, the prisoner rushed out, and nearly knocked me down with the rush—I took him into custody—he said, "You need not hold me so tight, I have not done any
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Your duty was dose to the door?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was placed there to take anybody that came out—the prisoner came out, and I caught hold of him—I did not go to the back part—I do not suppose five minutes elapsed from the time I received information till I took the prisoner.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> We two neighbours went into the yard at the same time that you did?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> They went with me—the wall is about five feet high. (
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was here read, as follows</hi>:" "I was standing at the front; I saw a mob of people; hearing the constable say, 'Let us go and secure the back,' I followed and got on the wall; I jumped over into the yard, and got in at the window; I went and opened the front door to let the constable in, out he rushed in and got hold of me.")</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> The man that he saw with me was a stranger to me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I bought the boots of this man who was with me; he asked me 4
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, F</hi> 116). I was on duty that morning in Great St. Andrew-street—I went after the last witness—I got in at the next door, and on going through the passage of this house I saw the back door open, and foot marks on the steps leading to the kitchen—I went down, and the door down stairs was broken open leading to the front kitchen, and in the kitchen I found this bundle of clothes done in a heap—I found the door unbolted leading from the front kitchen to the area, and foot marks to the top of the rails—a person could not have got from the area to where the prisoner was found—I think there must have been another person.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I know nothing at all about it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-112" type="given" value="CARL"/>CARL BELOW</persName> </hi>. I am mate of the
<hi rend="italic">Agnes</hi>, which is lying in the docks. On the last night of the year I was drinking in the Eagle public house, in Ship
<lb/>alley—the prisoner was there, standing on the floor—I came down stairs, and he took my watch from me, which was in my pocket—there was a silk band round it which was broken—I
<hi rend="italic">sung</hi> out, and a man took hold of him—the prisoner was given to the policeman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> There were others in the room besides me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, there were.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There was there anybody near you besides him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I could not be mistaken as to who the. person was who took it, and he was taken directly afterwards.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-113" type="given" value="ANTOINE PHILIP"/>ANTOINE PHILIP MILLER</persName> </hi>. I am steward of this ship—I was at the public house, I saw the prisoner drinking some beer—he then went to the mate, and the mate
<hi rend="italic">sung</hi> out, "My watch is stolen"—I saw the prisoner had got his hand outside the mate's waistcoat pocket—the mate tried to take hold of the prisoner—I took hold of him, and the policeman came and took him—I do not know what became of the watch—I know the mate had a watch before, and he had a black band, and that was broken—there were other persons about—I caught the prisoner almost directly—I should think before he had time to make away with the watch—I saw the prisoner's hand out
<lb/>side the prosecutor's waistcoat—just at the moment I took him the others pressed upon me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, H</hi> 73). The prisoner was given into my custody—he said, "I know nothing about it, I never saw the watch"—the prosecutor was perfectly sober.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-182-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.* Aged 18.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1856.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The Right Hon. the
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Mr. Baron
<hi rend="smallCaps">MARTIN</hi>; Mr. Justice
<hi rend="smallCaps">CROWDER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FAREBROTHER</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Baron Martin and the Second Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-117" type="given" value="HENRY CHARLES"/>HENRY CHARLES PICKERING</persName> </hi>. In Nov. last I resided at No. 17, Murray-street, Shoreditch. The prisoner was the landlady of that house—she occupied the ground floor, and one of the kitchens, and we had the up stairs apartments, and one kitchen—we had lived there more than a year—the prisoner had three children—one was born in that house—two of them were living with her at the time in question—the eldest child was called George M'Neil—on Thursday, 29th Nov., I saw the prisoner, about 11 o'clock at night, when she came into our kitchen—the last time I saw the boy, George, alive, was about 2 o'clock in the day—next morning, about half past 7 o'clock, I came out of my bedroom, and went down stairs—on the stairs I saw a cash box, and a dress piece lying across it—I believe it was the prisoner's—I went down into the kitchen to wash, as was my usual custom, and afterwards returned up stairs—I took up the cash box to take it into the prisoner's room—her door was slightly open—I knocked at the door, and said, "Are you up, ma'am? are you up, ma'am?"—she then said, "Oh! what have I done! what have I done! what have I done!" three times—I said, "Done? I think you have done a very pretty thing, to put your money and things on the stairs"—at the same moment I pushed the door open, and looked in—I saw the baby lying on the bed—I saw blood on the bed—the prisoner was concealed behind the door—I do not remember seeing her at that time—when I saw the blood on the bed, I directly dropped the cash box, went to the street door, and called across to a milkman, who was the first person I saw—he would not come—I then saw a policeman, and beckoned to him—he came—I told him what had happened, and showed him the room—he went in first—I followed him in, and saw that the two children, George and Edwin, were both dead—the third child had been taken into the country about a month previously—the prisoner was taken into custody by the policeman, and taken to the station—when I returned from the station, I saw a razor lying on the bed, and a case belonging to it—it was my razor—I kept it in a box, locked, in our kitchen—after the razor was found, I went down stairs, and found my box unlocked—I after
<lb/>wards saw a key brought out of the prisoner's room—I cannot say whether it was taken off the drawer or out of the drawer—it fitted my box—some short time before this, I found that a razor which I kept in a case in the kitchen drawer, along with a comb, and brush, and other things, had been meddled with—it had been turned round in the case, and put in the wrong way, twice within a fortnight—I was determined to find out who had done it, and I spoke to the children and the servant about it—I then named it to the prisoner—she said she had not done it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> She was very comfortably off, was she not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I had every reason to believe so—there seemed to be a sufficiency of everything—they had plenty to eat and drink, and plenty of clothes—she seemed very happy and comfortable up to a certain time, and then I observed a change in her—it was on 19th Sept. that I observed the change—the baby was then between four and five months old—I believe up to the time of this change she had been a kind and attentive parent, and very affectionate to her children—when I saw her in her bedroom on the morning in question, after the death of her children, she was moaning—the children had apparently been dead some hours—they were quite cold—from 19th Sept. she appeared extremely unhappy, and extremely bad at times—I have seen her in a great state of excitement with her children—she used to say they had nothing to wear to go out in—that was not the fact—on one Sunday morning I offered to take the little boy for a walk with</p>
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<p>my own little boy—she said he could not go, because he had nothing to put on, and she should be ashamed to let him go with me—I told his sister, Harriet, to go and get his clothes, which she did, and I took him out; and his clothes were very nice indeed, as nice as any gentleman's child need appear in.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-118" type="given" value="ELEANOR"/>ELEANOR PICKERING</persName> </hi>. I and my husband lodged in the house kept by the prisoner, for about twelve months—I have noticed a change in her manner and conduct for the last two or three months—I first observed it about 24th Sept.—I think she was at that time suffering from milk fever—before that she had been a kind and affectionate mother to her children—she was rather hasty with them at times, but generally speaking, kind and affectionate—since this change she has often complained that her, children had nothing to wear—that was not true—she was frequently running up and down stairs; she seemed to be unhappy and low spirited, and different to What she had been before—she had three children; one of them was sent into the country about a month before this—that was in consequence of my observing the prisoner one day attempt to throw him down the kitchen stairs—she took him by his arms, saying, "I will drop him, I will drop him, I will throw him down"—I was alarmed, and took him from her arms—my husband mentioned it to her friends, and in consequence of that the child was sent into the country—nobody slept in the room with the children on the night in question but the prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-119" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN THOMPSON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, N</hi> 147). I was called by Mr. Pickering to No. 17, Murray-street, on the morning of 30th Nov.—I went with him into a room on the ground floor—there was a bed and a cot in the room—a child about four years old was in the cot, and an infant in the bed—the throats of both of them were cut—they were quite dead and cold—the prisoner was in the room sitting on a footstool by the side of the fire place in one corner of the room, rocking herself up and down, and muttering some words to herself—I believe they were, I have done it; but they were said in such a low tone of voice, I could hardly hear it—I asked her whether she had killed the children—she said, "Yes, I have done it; oh! my poor-children, what shall I do?"—she was not in her night dress, she had her gown on—I took her to the station house—I found a razor and a razor case in the bed—that was before I took her to the station—I afterwards showed it to Mr. Pickering—I saw a towel in the room with stains of blood upon it; there was some bloody water in the washhand basin, and some spots of blood upon it—I found a key in the drawer, in a box of keys, which fitted Mr. Pickering's box where his razors were.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-120" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY COWARD</persName> </hi>. I am surgeon to the police. I saw the bodies of these children on the morning in question—they had been dead several hours—the cause of their death was undoubtedly the wounds in their throats—a razor would have inflicted those wounds—I did not know the prisoner.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-121" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-121" type="given" value="JOHN ROWLAND"/>JOHN ROWLAND GIBSON</persName> </hi>. I am surgeon of Newgate. I have had oppor
<lb/>tunities of seeing the prisoner every day since she has been in the gaol, rather more than a month—my opinion decidedly is, that she was of unsound mind at the time she committed the act.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> If you knew, as a matter of fact, that her father had been in a lunatic asylum, a confirmed lunatic for some years, would that confirm your opinion?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It would.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-122" type="given" value="CATHERINE"/>CATHERINE M'NEIL</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's mother. About six years ago my husband, her father, was sent to a lunatic asylum in consequence of his</p>
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<p>deranged state of mind—he was taken to Grove-hall Institution, and from there was removed to Bethlehem Hospital—he was in confinement for a year and a half—he is not in confinement now—he once cut his throat.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-123" type="given" value="GEORGE JOHN"/>GEORGE JOHN AMSDEN</persName> </hi>. I am a medical practitioner. I attended the prisoner in her confinement; she rather exhausted herself by nursing the child, and by so doing brought on a state of great nervous depression—I was afterwards called in to see her on 23rd Sept.—I found her labouring under extreme excitement, so much so, that I ordered persons to attend to her, and stay with her—I did not see her for seven days afterwards—she was still in a very excitable state, but rather better in health—from what I saw of her then, and from what I have heard of this transaction, I quite agree with what Mr. Gibson has stated—I never saw her before her con
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<hi rend="smallCaps">NOT GUILTY</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">being insane</hi> </rs>.—
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<hi rend="italic">To be detained until Her Majesty's pleasure be known</hi> </rs>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Crowder.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SARAH ALLEN</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-184-offence-1 t18560107-name-125"/>William Allen</persName>.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-126" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH WOODLAND</persName> </hi>. In Nov. last I was lodging in the same house with the prisoner and her husband, in Poulton-terrace, Chelsea—he is a messenger of the Steam Boat Company at Chelsea—they had three children living with them—the eldest boy, William, was six years old—Edward, the second, was three years old, and the third, Arthur, eleven months—I had lived in the house with them better than two years—I recollect 15th Nov.—it was a very foggy day—the prisoner was out that afternoon—she came in about 5 o'clock—the eldest boy, Willie, came home from school before her, and he stopped in my room until she came in—she went out again with the three children some time after 5 o'clock—I dare say it was nearly half-past 5 o'clock—I said to her, "Why, Mrs. Allen, are you going out this foggy night with those children?"—she said, "Yes, I am only going on a little errand"—about a quarter to 6 o'clock her husband came home—I went to bed at 12 o'clock that night—the prisoner had not come home then—I saw nothing of any of the children that night before I went to bed—about 9 o'clock next morning I saw the prisoner—she passed me on the stairs—Mrs. Richards was with her—nothing passed between us at that time—I saw the body of the eldest child at the Inquest, on 18th Nov.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The prisoner was the landlady of the house where you lodged?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I have known her two years—she was a very kind and affectionate mother, and lived on terms of great affec
<lb/>tion with her husband, who is a very sober, respectable, industrious man—for their station in life, they had a very happy home—I know that she had an opinion that her children were scrofulous—I had a book on the subject of king's evil and scrofula—this is it—(
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—she borrowed that book from me to read—I never heard her say that she thought her husband was scrofulous—the children were very healthy clean looking children—there was not the least outward sign of scrofula—she often used to speak to me respecting the children—she used to say of Willie, the eldest boy, in particular, how very ill he was, and that he had the scurvy in his blood—as far as my observation went, that was quite incorrect—it was a mere delusion of her mind—I have frequently tried to disabuse her of that delusion by telling her that I was sure nothing ailed him—that did not appear to have the least effect upon her mind—she would say I could not</p>
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<p>see right she was sure, that I was wrong, and she was right in her belief—she was a very sensible, intelligent woman, upon all ordinary topics—I do not know that she was a religious minded woman, nothing particular in that way—upon all ordinary topics she would discourse rationally and properly, but she would always change it to talking about the children—this book belonged to my husband's mother many years ago—that was how it came into my possession—the prisoner did not ask me to lend it to her, I offered to lend it—I do not think the delusion got into her mind by reading that book, because she was of the same opinion before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Perhaps it was upon her stating that opinion that you lent her the book?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-127" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MACEY</persName> </hi>. I am a blacksmith, and reside at Chelsea. On the Thursday evening in question, about 5 or 10 minutes to 5 o'clock, I was coming up Church-street, Chelsea, which leads to Cheyne-walk, and met the prisoner—it was about 120 yards from the river where I met her—I knew her well—she had the three children with her, one on each side of her, and the infant in her arms—she was going towards the water side—it was a very foggy night, and that was the remark that passed between us—she said, "It is very foggy, is it not?" and I said, "Indeed it is, ma'am"—she then passed on with the children one way, and I came on the other.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You know her to be a very respectable, well con
<lb/>ducted woman?"
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—from all I ever saw I believe she was a very excellent wife and mother.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-128" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-128" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-128" type="given" value="JOHN JAMES"/>JOHN JAMES GODBY</persName> </hi>. I am a waterman at the Cadogan Pier, Chelsea. About 6 o'clock on the evening of 15th Nov. I was on a barge by the side of the pier—it is one of the dummies which the people go on to get on to the pier—it is in the middle of the pier: I mean across the end of it—you go down steps from the end of the pier on to the dummy—I suppose it may be nearly 100 yards from the shore, or not so much—while I was on the dummy, I heard the cry of a child, apparently in the water—I ran off from the pier, took the life buoy and a little boat hook, and got over the rails into a boat, and proceeded to where the sound came from, and just below the Cricketer's Causeway I picked up a child—that is up the river—I suppose it was about 200 or 300 yards from the barge on which I had been standing—I picked up the child from the water—it was the young one, eleven months old—I suppose it might have been about sixteen or eighteen yards from the shore—I took it to the Magpie and Stump, and delivered it to Thomas Holmes, to take into the house—I did not see more than one child in the water.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> You did everything you could to rescue the child the moment you heard its screams?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-129" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH REYNOLDS</persName> </hi>. I am a waterman's apprentice, and live at Chelsea—I was walking along Cheyne-walk, coming from Battersea-bridge, on this evening, about a quarter to 6 o'clock, and heard a cry of "Police!"—I was then about forty yards from the pier, on the side nearer to Battersea bridge—I immediately ran down some steps there, and got into the water as far as I could safely go—I had to catch hold of the banisters to save myself, it being so foggy I could hardly see—I went down the steps nearest but one to the pier—they are steps where boats come to—I felt a boat that was made fast to the railing of the stairs, loosed it, and got in—it was about a quarter of an hour before high water, the boat lay right athwart the river—she was lying still, it is all an eddy there—there were other boats there, but out of my reach—none of them were touching the steps, I should say they</p>
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<p>were about three yards from the steps—when I got down the steps I heard the splashing of people in the water, and crying, and struggling—I could not see anything, it was so foggy and dark, it was impossible to do so—the crying was that of a child—I made towards the sound, and picked up the boy of three years old—he was just going down underneath my boat's bow—I got him out—I heard the noise of others going out, but did not succeed in getting out any others—I only heard one other voice at that minute, but it appeared that I heard three voices in the water before I went out—I had no sculls in my boat, but I paddled on shore with the stretchers—after giving up the child I went back again, and found the cap of the boy that was drowned—I came up to the younger child, but another man had saved it—the one I saved was, I dare say, about sixteen yards from the shore, as near as I could judge—it was floating up towards Battersea
<lb/>bridge, what tide there was, there was not much tide, it was nearly high water.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-130" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT SPINK</persName> </hi>. I am a cabman. On the night of 15th Nov. I was directly opposite the Cadogan-pier with my cab, about half past 5 o'clock—while I was there I heard a scream from the water—there were two screams—I should say they were the screams of two children—they seemed to be different voices, one was a much louder voice than the other—a man came by at the time, and I went with him over to the water and listened—after looking for a minute, or a minute and a half, I saw something dark floating on the water, and still heard the scream—I should say it was about five or six yards from the pier, up the river—I called out very lustily for help, for watermen, and police—I ran to some steps that lead down to the shore from Cheyne-walk, and got wet in running down—they were the steps nearest to the Cadogan-pier—there was a gate at the top of the steps, but it was fastened—I had to get over the rails near the gate—I got on to a dummy which was there—I saw a little child floating past the dummy, within about half a yard of my arm's length—I was unable to reach it, and it floated past me—I could not see more than one child in the water, but I heard the screams of the second further out in the water—when I first saw the child in the water I was looking over the wall near the Cadogan-pier, I was standing, perhaps, about eight yards away from the level of the pier, by the side of the wall which bevels out, and the child was coming, it might have been about six or eight yards from the pier—it was floating from the pier at the time.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-131" type="surname" value="CUSACK"/>
<interp inst="t18560107-name-131" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM CUSACK</persName> </hi>. I live with my brother, at the Magpie and Stump, Chelsea—about twenty minutes to 6 o'clock on this evening I heard cries from the river, they appeared to be cries of children—I directly crossed the road and went down the steps next but one to the pier, which are directly opposite our house—there is a gate at the top of those steps which is kept shut at night—when I arrived at the steps I found two men bringing the two children ashore—they were taken to my brother's house, and everything done to restore them—the prisoner's husband afterwards came, and went with the children to the workhouse—that was about 7 o'clock—I knew him before—I afterwards went with him from the workhouse to his house.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18560107-name-132" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18560107-name-132" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-132" type="given" value="PHILIP"/>PHILIP PARKER</persName> </hi>. I am a horse keeper. On 18th Nov. I found the body of a boy in the river, about thirty yards above Vauxhall-bridge, on the Middlesex side—he was dead—the body was about thirty feet from the shore, the tide was running down, it appeared to have been some time in the water—I afterwards saw the body at the Inquest.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ELIZABETH WOODLAND</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prisoner complain to you in June last that she was suffering from pains her head?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes;</p>
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<p>she would not take any medicine to remove it—she need to rub her arms and say that a white powder came out of them, and that was the disease—I could not see any powder.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-133" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-133" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN COATES</persName> </hi>. I am a lighterman and boat builder, at Chelsea—I know the state the tide was in about 6 o'clock on 15th Nov.—it was nearly half an hour before high water—I know the Cadogan-pier, Chelsea, there is a wall east of the pier for about eighty feet—it is a sort of curved wall, about three feet high—there is not more than two, or three, or six feet of wall on the western side—there is a curve of about twenty feet, but no wall beyond, there are posts with chains fastened from them—there are steps leading from the roadway to the shore, and gates at the top of those steps which are closed at night—the eighty feet wall bows out, and projects into the river on each side of the pier—anything falling into the river from the outer part of the wall would fall into the current—but on each side it would be still water for it is ten feet from the shore—this plan (
<hi rend="italic">looking at one</hi>) correctly represents the position of the place—it would be nearly thirty feet from the shore to get into the current.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I suppose you are quite accurate about this?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, perfectly—I speak from experience—I am well acquainted with the river, my premises are close to the spot.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are there gates to the pier itself?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi>—they are generally closed when the boats cease running—the last up boat arrives about a quarter after 5 o'clock—but no boats were running at this time, on account of the fog, and the gates would no doubt be closed.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-134" type="given" value="JOHN JAMES"/>JOHN JAMES GODBY</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I had charge of the pier—there were no boats running that day at all—the pier gates were closed all day, and fastened—I opened them to let in the persons who gave the alarm—I know that they were fastened before that.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-135" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH RICHARDS</persName> </hi>. I am a domestic servant I have been long acquainted with the prisoner—when this unhappy affair occurred I was out of a situation, and was living in Cirencester-place, Fitzroy-square—I had not seen her for about three weeks or a month then—she came on the even
<lb/>ing of 15th Nov., about 7 o'clock, or a little after—I did not expect her, it was quite an unusual thing—she came alone—I lived in the first floor—she came up to my room—she appeared very desponding and distressed, and in a flood of tears, and said, "I have lost my children"—I first of all went down to her, and I did not know her; it was very foggy and dark—she said, "Mrs. Richards, don't you know me?"—I said at first I did not, and then I said, "It is Mrs. Allen, is it not?"—she said, "Yes"—I said, "I did not know you at first, come in and sit down"—she said, "I want to speak to you, I have lost my children"—I asked her to come up stairs, and then said, "Where is your husband, have you been to your husband?"—she said, "I have not seen him since the morning"—I said, "Then you must go to him directly"—she said, No, I can't go to Allen, I can't go home"—I said, "That is the place you must go to; who can you go to but your husband, he is your friend, the only friend you can go to whatever jmay have hap
<lb/>pened"—I could not prevail upon her to leave—she kept on saying, I can't go to Allen, I can't see Allen"—she remained in my room I dare say an hour, and I then went out with her and had some coffee at some place in the neighbourhood—we then came back again—I then wanted her to go, but she would not, and it was 12 o'clock before I could get her to leave—she kept on saying she could not go to Allen, and she would not go to</p>
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<p>Allen; that was all the answer I could get from her—about 12 o'clock I prevailed upoa her to accompany me to her house—we were from 12 o'clock till 2 getting there on account of the fog—she did not give me the least account of how she had lost her children, all she said was, that she had lost them, and she would not go home to her husband—I always understood he was the best of husbands to her—when we got to her house she let her
<lb/>self in with a key that she had—I went into the passage, closed the door, and stood on the mat; I was rather doubtful whether she would go out again—I said to her, "Mrs. Allen, you go up stairs first, and see whether your husband is at home or not"—she said, "Very well I will, and then we will get a light"—she went up stairs, and knocked at the door twice, and Mr. Allen got off the bed where he had been lying with the little boy, and let her in—I heard him say to her, "Sarah, is it you?"—she said, "Yes, Mrs. Richards is down stairs"—he said, "It can't be you, Sarah"—she said, "Yes, it is."—I then went up—I found Mr. Allen in the room, and his brother, and sister, and the second boy—the boy was in the bed, and Mr. Allen was lying on the bed with part of his clothes on—the prisoner looked at the child and kissed it, and said, "Where did you get in?" or, "How did you, get in?"—Mr. Allen said to her, "Ah! Sarah, where is Willie, where is Willie?"—she made no answer—he said, "And where is the baby, Sarah?"—she said, "Have you got the baby?"—he said, "I have, Sarah"—she said, "Where is my baby?"—the baby was not then in the house, it was with a nurse—she said, "I will have my baby; where is my baby?" why can't I have my baby?"—that was her continual cry—Mr. Allen kept continually asking her the whole of the morning concerning Willie, but she made no answer, she only wanted her baby—I remained there the rest of the morning.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long have you known her?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Many years, the greater part of her life—I knew but little of her till after her marriage, about seven years ago—I have known her intimately since then—when she came to me on this evening she was in a flood of tears—she was in a state that I never saw her in before, she seemed so distressed, and could not speak to me, as though she had lost all self possession, and all control of herself—she was sobbing and crying wkile she spoke—I did all I could to soothe and console her, and to get her to her husband—they lived on most affectionate terms, and she was a most kind and excellent mother, and par
<lb/>ticularly fond of her children; in fact, I always considered that she was too indulgent, she indulged them to a fault—I knew of the idea of hers about scrofula, and I have tried to reason her out of it—I always considered it was a delusion, but she was so very strong upon it the last time I was with her, about three weeks before this—she told me that I would not heed her—I said, "Oh! Mrs. Allen, all children have got complaints; you are so very fond of your children"—she said, "Oh! look at it; oh, Mrs. Richards, we are all ruined! I am ruined, my husband is ruined, and my children are ruined; my family is ruined altogether!"—she was under the impression that her husband was also scrofulous—I know that her mother's youngest sister died in a lunatic asylum—her mother was not at all affected that I know of—she has only been dead about three months—I should think it is quite a year and a half since she first complained to me about her husband and her children being scrofulous, but it was not so much as the last time—she was so very strong upon it the last time, it seemed to grow, nothing could do away with it—I did all I could to do away with it—the boy Willie was a very fine child—at one time I saw an alteration in him, he was look
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<p>thinner, but I considered he was growing, and I said so—she said, "Oh! nonsense; you don't understand it; you can see by my eyes, by my forehead, that I have the complaint."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> then she had the same impression that she herself was labouring under scrofula?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Oh, yes, that she was affected—that was latterly—it was the last time I saw her—her impression was, that she was always affected; that something was in the blood, and that it was in the bones, and would never come out, and that in future it would be worse than it was—that was what she held out to me—she said, "I am quite altered, and see how my forehead is swelled out."</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-136" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DRAKE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police inspector</hi>). About half past 9 o'clock on the morning of 16th Nov., I went to the prisoner's house, and found her in the kitchen—as soon as she saw me she began to cry—I told her that I should take her into custody on the charge of having caused the death of one of her children—she made no answer, except saying, Let me have my baby"—I asked her if the eldest boy, William, went out with her on the evening previous—she made no answer, but kept repeatedly asking for her baby—the prisoner's house is about 500 yards from the Cadogan pier.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-137" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD TIPPETT</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, and live at Ehn
<lb/>terrace, Fulham. I have been in the habit of attending the prisoner and her children, for be
<lb/>tween four and five years—she has from time to time made complaints to me of their having an impure disease—she called it scrofula—it is rather more than six months ago that she first called my attention to the children—I examined them in consequence of that statement—I did not find the slightest foundation for it—I told her so, but she still continued to express the same opinion—she said she thought the children would live to suffer for some years, and eventually die of it—remember on one occasion her saying she would rather see them die than live to suffer—that was about three months before this happened—it was in the autumn, about the latter end of Aug. or Sept.—I considered this a perfect delusion, both as regarded herself and her children—I have very often endeavoured to remove the impression, but entirely failed in doing so—I advised her to go to the hospital and take a higher opinion—she frequently complained to me about herself, of a swel
<lb/>ling of the head, and the colour of her skin—she said she had a disease of the skin, and also a disease in the bones, which would eventually kill her—she complained of a little pain in the head occasionally—I examined her—there was no foundation for the existence of any actual disease—I prescribed for her once, when she complained of pain in the head—she nad medicine to take, I cannot say that she took it—the last time I saw her, I met her in the street with the three children—I then remarked how well they were look
<lb/>ing, particularly the eldest boy—she replied, "Oh! dear, no; they are none of them well; they are far from well"—I think that was in Aug. or Sept.—she appeared to be still labouring under the same impression.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was she under the impression that her husband was scrofulous?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot remember hearing her mention it—her idea was perfectly erroneous; there was no foundation for it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you believe, supposing it should be proved to the satisfaction of the Jury that she threw this child into the Thames, that the delusion in her mind might have induced her to do it to prevent its having a life of suffering?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No doubt, that is my full impression, from the expression she used.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-138" type="given" value="GEORGE ROBERTS"/>GEORGE ROBERTS ROWE, ESQ</persName> </hi>., M. D. I am a member of the College of Physicians, and also a Surgeon. I am the author of a work on nervous</p>
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<p>diseases, and have paid great attention to those matters—I have seen the prisoner, and had conversations with her—my first visit occupied perhaps half an hour—I was then quite satisfied that she laboured under a delusion which is not of unfrequent occurrence in persons of high nervous sensi
<lb/>bility—she stated to me that her children had suffered from a scrofulous disease, that their foreheads projected, and their eyes were starting from their heads, all that I could say was futile, and of no avail, she still persisted in her delusion—I saw her about a week afterwards, and the opinion that I had formed of her case was more than corroborated—I extended the period of my visit—I was most anxious to form a correct view of her case—she still persisted in the delusion—I called her attention to a work which she had been reading, and which has been produced to-day, and I believe the reading of that book very much strengthened the morbid view she entertained—she still labours under it—these are cases of a very protracted nature—sometimes the delusion does vanish.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> In either of the conversitions you had with her, did she say anything about the death of her children?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> She alluded to them—she stated that she thought they were better off—she believed they had been suffering, and would ultimately have suffered much more—I think such a delusion would be very likely to lead to the commission of an act of violence like this.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-139" type="given" value="JOHN ROWLAND"/>JOHN ROWLAND GIBSON</persName> </hi>. I am surgeon of Newgate. I have seen the prisoner every day since she has been in the gaol—I entirely agree with what Dr. Rowe has said.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Is it your belief that, supposing she acted under this morbid delusion, at the time she committed the act, if she did commit it, she was incapable of distinguishing right from wrong?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That is my impression—that is clearly my opinion.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">DR. ROWE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I am also of opinion that she was incapable of distinguishing right from wrong.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">being insane</hi> </rs>.—Ordered
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Baron Martin.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18560107-185-offence-1 t18560107-name-142"/>Harriet Harvey</persName>: they were also charged, upon the Coroner's Inquisition, with the like offence.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-143" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH PLATT</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 13, Brunswick-street, Homerton, in the parish of Hackney. The prisoners came to lodge at my house on 29th Nov. last—they occupied the back room on the ground floor, unfurnished—they stated that they had four children, but I never saw but one until the death happened—on Sunday, 23rd Sept., the male prisoner came up stairs between 6 and 7 o'clock in the morning, and asked where the parish doctor lived—I asked him what was the matter—he said two of his children, he believed, were dying—I told him where the doctor lived, and he left—I went down into their room, and found the female prisoner there, and the four children, two alive and two dead—one was quite dead, and the other nearly so—he gave a groan when the doctor came into the room—the doctor came in while I was there, and the male prisoner with him—I looked at the children—they were in a state shocking to relate—I could not describe the awful state they were in—they were quite skeletons—there were not any bed clothes, there was a thin covering over their faces—I took it off, and looked at them—I asked the female prisoner why she did not tell</p>
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<p>me their children were in each a state—she said they had not been ill, they had eaten their supper heartily when they went to bed—she said they had been standing by the fire on the previous day—I said it was very surprising if they had stood on their legs the day previous—I said that, from the state in which they were—the other children were nine and two and a half years old—I looked round the room—I only saw what they showed the doctor, a little rice and oatmeal for the day—the only child I saw while they were there was the girl nine years old, who used to go in and out.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-144" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN VINALL</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon, residing at Hackney; I am surgeon to the South Hackney district. On Sunday morning, 23rd Dec., the male prisoner came to me, at 7 o'clock, and told me that one of his children was dead, and the other dying, and asked me to go to his house—I went with him—as we went along, he said that if his children died he should say they had been starved to death—he told me that he had had an order to go into the workhouse—I told him, if he was in such distress, he was very silly not to do so—I do not recollect that he made any reply—I went into the back room on the ground floor at No. 13, Brunswick-street, and there found the female prisoner and four children—the eldest girl was nursing the infant in one part of the room, and the two children who have since died were lying in another corner of the room, on a mattrass—the girl was dead, and the boy was in a dying state, nearly dead—he died in a few minutes, while I was in the house—they presented the appearance of extreme emaciation—there were two old chairs and a table in the room, and this bed on the floor in the corner—that appeared to be all the furniture—on the chimney piece I saw a little paper with some oatmeal, and another paper with rice in it—the female prisoner told me that there was 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of oatmeal in one paper, and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of rice in the other—I made a
<hi rend="italic">port mortem</hi> examina
<lb/>tion on the Tuesday morning, by direction of the parish authorities—I first examined the girl—I found all the organs of the body quite healthy, except that they were entirely devoid of fat—there was no fat about the body at all—I found no food of any kind in the stomach, only a little liquid feculent matter in the lower part of the intestines, and one or two little pieces of stick, which the male prisoner said might have been taken in the oatmeal—I made the examination at the house—the prisoners were not present during the whole of it—I called them in to account for the pieces of stick—there was also a fish bone in the intestines of the girl, which the female prisoner accounted for by saying that they had had a herring the day before—she also said they had eaten a hearty supper the night before—I should not have thought it at all likely that the stomach would present the appearances it did if they had had a hearty supper the night before—in my opinion, the children died from the long continued deprivation of proper and sufficient food—I took away the stomach and intestines of the boy, and next day those of the girl, sealed them up, and took them to Dr. Letheby.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-145" type="given" value="HENRY"/>DR. HENRY LETHEBY</persName> </hi>. I am. professor of chemiatry at the London Hos
<lb/>pital. I received from Mr. Vinall the stomach and intestines of the female child on 29th Dec.—I examined them—I found the stomach slightly red
<lb/>dened on the interior coat; and the intestines and stomach were perfectly empty, excepting a little feculent mucus—that was in the intestines both of the boy and girl, but more particularly in the boy's—I also found in the stomach of each some pieces of fish bone, which I produce—I did not find any small pieces of wood—I carefully examined the remains of nutriment, to ascertain whether there was the remains of a meal—I searched particu
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<p>for sugar and starch, but did not find a particle—if the child had eaten a supper of oatmeal the night before, I should have found the husk of the oatmeal, however strong the digestion might have been.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Looking at the state of the stomach and intestines, and assuming that the body presented an appearance of great emaciation, what inference would you draw from that state of things?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That starvation had been the cause of death—there was not a trace of fat in the intestinal canal, which is very unusual—if a person is deprived of food, the system lives as it were upon itself, until all the fat is consumed—I should imagine that the exhaustion of the system had been a lingering one, from the whole of the fat being absorbed—I think it could not have been any sudden matter; it must have been progressing for some time—there was some redness on the inner lining—I found nothing deleterious—the redness was probably owing to the mechanical irritancy of the fish bone, and the pieces of wood on the coat of the stomach—that appearance has been observed before in cases of starva
<lb/>tion—I attribute the death to a lingering deprivation of food, going on for some time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-146" type="given" value="CHARLES ALEXANDER"/>CHARLES ALEXANDER CHRISTIE</persName> </hi>. I am relieving officer of St. Matthew, Bethnal-green—the prisoners were living there in July last, with four children—I did not visit them then, they were brought to the workhouse by a policeman—they were in a very destitute state from want of food, and very emaciated—the prisoners were taken before a Magistrate on that occasion for neglecting the children—they were supposed to be man and wife—the man was committed, on 18th July, for one month; the woman was discharged, as not being his wife—she and the children were then in the work-house; an order was made to take them to the Ware Union, and I removed them there on 11th Aug.—they were then perfectly healthy and playful, particularly so—they had very much improved in health, they had then been about five weeks in the workhouse.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Harvey. Q.</hi> When I was taken before the Magistrate, was I not dis
<lb/>charged with the female prisoner, and sent back to the Union, and stopped there nine days?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe you were—I cannot say whether you went out to get employment.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-147" type="given" value="LAVINIA"/>LAVINIA EDWARDS</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 2, Great Margaret-street, Hackney—the prisoners'came to lodge at my house at the latter end of Oct.—they took two rooms—they staid with me until they went to Mrs. Platts—I do not know when that was, I have been in the workhouse since that—I saw the two children after their death, and recognised them as two of the children belonging to the prisoners, and living with them while they were with me—they were in a state that I never saw before, and never wish to see again, in a most dreadful state—I should suppose from starvation, so dreadfully fallen away, they did not appear to have any flesh at all upon their bones—while the prisoners lodged with me they never treated their children as they ought to do—I have seen them take food themselves, and turn the children out into the garden, or outside the door, whilst they ate it—I have some
<lb/>times given them a little bread and butter unknown to their parents, and they always seemed to eat it up very ravenously.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What was the girl's name?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Harriett—they went away 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in my debt, but they promised to pay it at so much a week.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-148" type="given" value="ELLEN"/>ELLEN WILSON</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 29, Margaret-street, Homerton, next door to Mrs. Edwards—I know the prisoners and their children from lodging there—my back yard looks into their garden—I have constantly seen Harriett, and the other children walking together in the garden, hand in</p>
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<p>hand—they were about five and seven jean old—I saw the boy gnawing a piece of turnip top, and the girl a piece of turnip rind—I said to them, "Don't eat that, my dear, it is not fit for you to eat; are you hungry?"—they said. "Yes," and I gave them some bread, which they ate very raven
<lb/>ously—they appeared very thin, but looked very clean in their flesh.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-149" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES EARLWIN</persName> </hi>. I keep a school in Orchard-street, Hackney—I saw the two children, Harriett and William, after their death—they were in a remarkably emaciated state—they came to school on 24th Sept, and con
<lb/>tinued for about three weeks in Oct.—the child was in a very depressed and quiet state, and saddened, I may say, and remarkably thin—we could not tell whether it was in a starving state, or in a state of rapid consump
<lb/>tion—we have given them food, and have seen them eating food which they have taken from the other children—their appetite appeared to be very ravenous, and they appeared to wish to conceal their eating food from the other children—I complained to the children themselves about their eating other children's food; I did not complain to the prisoners, I never saw the prisoners until I saw the children dead—it was a day or two, or, perhaps, a week after I complained to the children, that they discontinued coming—when I went and saw them dead, I said to the female prisoner, "Are these children yours?"—she looked across to the male prisoner without answering—I then asked him, "Are these children yours?"—he said, "Yes"—I then turned to the woman, and said, "Are you this man's wife?"—she said, "I am sorry to say I am not"—I then said to the man, "These children being yours, by whom are they I"—he said, "By my wife"—I said, "Where is your wife?"—he said, "She is dead; she has been dead two years, or two years and a half"—I said, "The youngest child cannot be hers," it did not appear to be above eighteen mouths old as I saw it then in the woman's arms, but he said it was two years and a half old—it had a very diminutive appearance, beyond description—I saw that it was a very distressing case in appearance, and I gave them half a crown, and a friend of mine, who had been there just before, gave them some bread tickets—that was the cause of my going there—there was every appearance of very great destitution in the room.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-150" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY DOSSETT</persName> </hi>. I am the assistant relieving officer of Hackney Union. I know the prisoners—on 16th Nov. the man applied to me at the work-house for relief, on account of want of work—I gave him an order to come into the house with his family, and likewise two quartern loaves of bread to take with him, to eat before they came—they did not come into the house at all—on Tuesday, 18th Dec., the woman came for relief, her husband being out of work—I told her if that was the case, her husband could come him
<lb/>self—I gave her on that occasion a quartern loaf, and a quart of oatmeal to take home with her, and told her to send her husband—she came again on the Wednesday, before the Board, and said the same thing—the Board told her that she must send her husband—she had no food given her on that occasion—next day, the 20th, the male prisoner came—he said he had no work, and wanted relief—I told him I could give him work, which I did—I gave him an order to go to work in the stone yard, and a quartern loaf, and a quart of oatmeal to begin with—he could earn from 18
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a day in the stone yard, according to what he did—he did not come to work—he is a bricklayer—it is work that any strong able bodied person can do; lads and young men do it—neither of them made any complaint to me of the children being ill.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Harvey. Q.</hi> You say on 15th Nov., you gave me two loaves of bread; you did not, you only gave me an order for the house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I gave you two loaves—the female prisoner did not come and ask me for some temporary relief to keep the children from starving; if she had, I should have taken you all into the house—had I been aware of their being in such a state I should have sent a fly, or some conveyance, and brought them all into the house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Ray.</hi> In the morning the male prisoner applied for relief, and had a note given him to go in the evening; I applied, and was denied relief; the witness said he would not give me a bit of anything; I remained there a long time, and said I was not pleading for myself, but for my starving chil
<lb/>dren, and I would not go home without; and at last I had two quartern loaves given to me.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> At the time I gave her the loaves she did not say that she required them for her starving children—she did not men
<lb/>tion the children at all, she said it was her husband's being out of work—I never gave her two loaves at once, I gave her one loaf and a quart of oatmeal.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Ray.</hi> The next application I made they would not allow me to say a word, and I was obliged to go without relief; the next application was a week previous to the children's death, and I had one quartern loaf and some oatmeal, and no more; I attended next day before the Board, and said that I had four starving children at home, and was told I must send my husband, and I had no relief that day; my husband went next day, and had a quar
<lb/>tern loaf and a bag of oatmeal, and an order for the stone yard, but he could not go as he was ill, and had a boil under his arm, which he showed to Mr. Vinall.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I was present when she was before the Board—she made no statement about her children, or they would have relieved her imme
<lb/>diately—I never heard her—I cannot say how many persons there were at the Board, there are generally about eight or ten—I am certain she did not mention about her children being in a starving condition—she said she came for relief for her family, nothing further—she said there were children—she did not say how many—they had heard all that from me; she said she wanted some relief for her family, and the Board told her to send her husband.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. VINALL</hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> It is true that the male prisoner had boils under his arm; he showed them to me on the morning of the death, and said he was coming to me next morning—I do not think they would render him incapable of working; perhaps it might be painful to him—he might have had them some days.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-151" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS SATCHWELL</persName> </hi>. I am a grocer at Leyton. I know the male pri
<lb/>soner—in Oct. last, he worked as a bricklayer at the house I was resid
<lb/>ing at—his first job came to 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the contract was 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., making 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. altogether, less 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was paid to him previous to 8th Oct., and the remainder was paid to him during the mouth of Oct., in different sums—he had a man to do work for three or four days; he had to pay him—he left the job unfinished—he could have gone on with the work if he had chosen—the job was completed in Oct.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Harvey. Q.</hi> You forgot to state that I had a boy to pay out of the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe you had a boy—at first you had your son, but I believe he ran away, and a boy came afterwards—I cannot say whether you had to pay him or not—a plasterer had to finish the work, but it was in your contract—the contract was not with me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-152" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN PAGE</persName> </hi>. I am a builder, at Hackney. The male prisoner worked for me from July, on and off—he worked for me in Oct.—in Oct., and Nov., and up to Dec.—I paid him about 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 16
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I gave him a few baskets of wood for fuel.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">police inspector, N</hi>). I took the prisoners into custody on 28th Dec., at the Black Boy public house, at Hackney, where the inquest was held—I said, "I charge you with having caused the death of William Harvey, aged seven year, and Harriet Harvey, aged five years, by neglect
<lb/>ing to provide proper and sufficient food and nourishment for them"—they said nothing in answer to that—I took them to the station—I searched the male prisoner, and found on him an order for work at the stone yard, dated 21st Dec., two shillings, a halfpenny, and a farthing, two orders for bread, two for 56 lbs. of coals each, and an order for 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. worth of meat, dated 26th Dec.; that was after the deaths—the coal and bread orders are not dated, they were given from Ironmonger-lane, City; it is not parochial relief—I searched their room, but could find no article of children's clothing whatever—there was no clothing, there was merely a dirty mattress, but no blankets, or sheets, or anything for covering—there was every appearance of the deepest misery and distress.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-154" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD CLARK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, N</hi> 223). I took the female prisoner to the station—on the way there she said, "I have done my duty by them"—she afterwards stated that she had been in the habit of applying to Mr. Dossett for the last seven weeks past, and he always refused to relieve her—she also said she was not the man's wife.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Harvey's Defence.</hi> I did everything that lay in my power towards main
<lb/>taining my family; I had got no money, and I went begging; I could not get anything by that, and I knew I must not steal, and I did not know what to do; all that I could raise for us on the day previous to the chil
<lb/>dren's death, was one pound of bread in the morning, and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of oat
<lb/>meal, to be divided between the six of us, and in the evening, about half past 4 o'clock, we had 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of oatmeal and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of bread divided between the six of us; that was all we had that day; the female went to a party who owed her some money for some work some time previous, and she got 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; with that we provided 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of oatmeal and a pound of rice for the next day, for six of us to live on all day; I had not one farthing, or one coin about me; the tickets and money found upon me were given to me after the children's death.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Ray's a Defence.</hi> For seven weeks we had nothing to live upon but dry bread, rice, and oatmeal; during that time I had from the pariah of Hack
<lb/>ney four loaves and two quarts of oatmeal; on Saturday, previous to the children dying, we had a pound of bread and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of oatmeal for six of us, and in the evening 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of bread and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of oatmeal; in the evening I went and got 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and bought the rice and oatmeal for the next day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">had, in opening the case, called the attention of the</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to a question which might arise in the case, in consequence of the female prisoner not being the wife of the male prisoner, and therefore not being a person upon whom would rest any legal responsibility of providing for the sustenance of the children</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BARON MARTIN</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">in leaving the case to the Jury, explained that the charge against the prisoners was, that having a duty cast by law upon them to provide food for the children, they culpably abstained from doing so. They must first be satisfied that the duty existed. With respect to the male prisoner, the father, there could be no doubt the obligation lay upon him, and the culpable neglect of that duty would make him responsible, in the form of murder or manslaughter. With respect to the female prisoner, the case was different, and the only duty cast upon her was the supplying to the children such food as was given to her for that purpose.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="italic">of Manslaughter</hi> </rs>.Aged 31.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">RAY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Crowder.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CLARKSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-157" type="given" value="CAROLINE FRANCES"/>CAROLINE FRANCES ROWLEY</persName> </hi>. I reside with Messrs. Back and Barker, drapers, at Birmingham. I have a sister living in Maiden-row, Hamptead-road, London—on 20th Dec. I sent a letter to her, enclosing in it a half sovereign, sewn up in some flannel—this (
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<lb/>lope and letter in my handwriting, and this is the flannel I sent—the half sovereign is now in it—these needles were in the flannel, and after putting in the half sovereign I sewed it round—it is now exactly in the same state in which I sent it on 20th Dec.—I placed it in an adhesive envelope, and closed it, and posted it myself about 8 o'clock in the evening.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-158" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE ROBERTS</persName> </hi>. I am an inspector of letter carriers at the General Post-office. The prisoner was a letter carrier in Dec. last—he delivered letters in the district of which the Hampstead-road forms a part—a letter posted on 20th Dec. at Birmingham at 8 o'clock at night would arrive at the General Post-office on the morning of the 21st, for the morning deli
<lb/>very—the prisoner was on duty at the Post-office on the morning of the 21st—a letter addressed to Maiden-row would be sorted to him, it is a part of his district—he was the principal letter carrier in that walk—he had an assistant—this letter would be for his assistant to deliver, but it would paas through his bands first, and he would deliver it to his assistant for delivery—for some reason I had that morning, after the prisoner left the Post-office with his letters, I went up to the neighbourhood of his walk, and got there about 9 o'clock—I saw him on his delivery—I remained until he had com
<lb/>pleted it, and then brought him back with me to the Post-office.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-159" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT CHALCROFT</persName> </hi>. I was the assistant letter carrier to the prisoner. I assisted him in delivering letters on 21st Dec. last—if there had been a letter for Mrs. Barnes, No. 2, Maiden-row, Hampstead-road, he should have delivered it to me to deliver—he did not do so.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-160" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN BARNES</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Thomas Barnes. In Dec. last I lived at No. 2, Maiden-row, Hampstead-road—Miss Rowley is my sister—I did not receive a letter from her, containing a half sovereign, on 21st Dec. or at any time—some inquiry was made at our house, and I was shown some fragments of paper, which I recognised as my sister's writing—I was expecting a letter from her at that time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-161" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SMEE</persName> </hi>. I am a constable attached to the Post-office. On 21st Dec. last I searched the prisoner in the solicitor's office at the Post-office—in his right hand coat pocket, behind, I found some torn pieces of paper, along with a quantity of other papers—they have since been pasted on this piece of tissue paper—he was asked by the solicitor, in my presence, how he accounted for them—he said they were a quantity of papers which he curled his hair with and so forth—Mr. Peacock called his attention to these fragments, and he said they were fragments of a letter that he had received from his uncle in the country—I proceeded to search him further, and in the same pocket I found this piece of flannel with the needles, in the same</p>
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<p>state it now—the half sovereign was not discovered at that time—he was asked how he accounted for the needles and the flannel—he said, one morning, after his delivery, he bought them of a man in Tottenham Court-road, near the New-road—he was asked if they were in the same state as they now appear—he said, "Yes," at first—it was then discovered that it contained coin, and he was asked again what he gave for them—after a long consideration, I believe he said 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he had not had an opportunity of seeing the half sovereign at that time, but I believe he heard it mentioned that there was a half sovereign in it—I think it was said loud enough for him to hear—he was asked again if he bought them in the same state as they now appeared—he hesitated for some time, and then said, "If they were in my pocket, I know nothing about them, I don't know how they came there"—at that time we could make nothing of the fragments of the letter, no more than "No. 2," and the letters "Ba," of "Barnes," and the "Ha," of "Hampstead-road"—the prisoner was allowed to go, and I went and made inquiry, and returned to the office the same afternoon—the prisoner was then called upon by the solicitor, to know if he wished to give a further account of the needles—he said, "No, I don't know that I am bound to say anything unless I choose, but I tell you, as I said before, I bought them in Tottenham Court-road"—he was asked if they were in the same state as they were then—he said, no, when he went to bed at night he sewed the half sovereign in the flannel with the needles, with the intention of sending it down into the country to his mother, but on account of the mails being so late that morning he had not had time to write his letter, and so he had not sent it—next day I went to the Hampstead-road, in company with a letter carrier who had been on that walk previously to the prisoner—we went to several No. 2's, until we came to No. 2, Malden-row, and found Mrs. Barnes—the prisoner was then taken into custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> He has made a wrong statement in one thing; he says I said I did not know how they came in my pocket; it is false, no such statement was made; I said I did not know how the pieces of paper came there, and he has referred that observation to the needles.
<hi rend="italic">Witness</hi> He did say so—his attention was called to the needles, not to the paper.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I have nothing at all to say.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, January</hi> 9
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1856.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>; and Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">EAGLBTON</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the Fifth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-164" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DALEY</persName> </hi>. I lived at No. 4, Palace-place, Kensington—I have lately been in the hospital—the prisoner lives at No. 3, next door to me—on Sunday morning, 2nd Dec., there was some difference between me and my wife—she left my room and went to the station, between 1 and 2 o'clock—I wrapped up the baby, and took it to my mother's, three or four minutes' walk from where I live—when I came back I passed the prisoner's house—I heard my wife talking in his house—I went to the door and called</p>
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<p>her by her name, and the prisoner pushed her out of his room before him, and with his shut fist he struck me in the eye, and said, "You b—b—, I will serve seven years for you"—my wife was pushed out of his room, which is at the bottom of the house, and she went up stairs—I got fright
<lb/>ened of the prisoner, and I went indoors to my own house—I remained there five or ten minutes—I got frightened of him because he had threat
<lb/>ened me a week before this—I did not hear him use any threats—I went before a Magistrate about it—after I had been in my house a short time, I came out—I was afraid to remain in my house—I took the poker in my hand to protect my life—I did not intend to use any violence—when I got to my own door, a voice said, "Daley, look out, he has got the chopper in his hand"—the prisoner directly flew out of his passage, and struck me over the eye—I do not know what with—I did not get time to look—it was dark—I fell down after I received the first blow—I do not know what he did then.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you find yourself afterwards cut anywhere?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, in three places, in the head, and on the right arm, and once over the eye—when I recovered I found myself in St. George's Hospital—I remained an in patient there—this fire rest (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is what I call a poker.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I believe you and your wife do not agree very well?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> We had always been on good terms till that Sunday night—we had one quarrel before—we have been married three months—I have not frequently turned her out of doors—I do not know that she was in the habit of going to the prisoner and his wife for safety—she never was there before, that I know of—I did not strike her; I pushed her, not down stairs, but out of the door, and she went down stairs herself—I did not strike her in the room—I had struck her on former occasions, not frequently—I do not know that she was in the habit of taking refuge with the prisoner and his wife when I ill-treated her—I do not know that the prisoner has complained of being disturbed by me and my wife quarrelling, and her going to his house for shelter—I went to my mother's with the baby—the prisoner lives in the bottom room, next door to me—they were not in bed—when I first saw the prisoner I do not know whether he was half dressed or not—when I went for my wife I called her by her own name, and the prisoner opened the door, and pushed her out—the prisoner's wife came out, and he and she went in again, after he struck me in the eye—my eye was black; I could not say for how long—it was black while I was in the hospital—my wife did not go home with me—I do not know where she went—I went to my own room—my wife could not go in again with the prisoner and his wife—she turned up the stairs—I went into my own room, and, being frightened, I did not like to stay—I came out, having armed myself with this poker, or fire rest—I had this in my right hand—my left hand was sprained—I did not go to the prisoner's door—I know Mary Warwick and Elizabeth Warwick—I swear I did not go to the prisoner's door, and use very bad language—he did not give me time—I did not challenge him to fight, or strike him with the fire rest—when he made a blow at me, I put up my hand, and this fire rest fell on the ground—I do not know whether it was then it got broken—I did not strike the prisoner, and cause him to bleed.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBINSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you ever strike him a blow at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, nor threaten to do it—the quarrel between me and my wife was no more than from her being out late—it seemed to me as if she was drunk—she had not been in long when this took place.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-165" type="given" value="MARGARET"/>MARGARET FORD</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 5, Palace-buildings. About half-past 1 o'clock that morning I was about to go to bed—I heard a disturbance in the court—I went to the door—I paw Daley first—he was between his own door and Murnan's—Mrs. Daley was in Human's house, and she was having words with her husband, who was outside—I then went into my own room, as I thought it had nothing to do with me—I stopped about half an hour—I heard a noise again, and came out—I heard a voice across the way, saying, "Oh, Thomas, keep away, Murnan is coming out of the house with a chopper"—I saw Human coming out of his own house with a weapon in his hand—as near as I could see, it was a chopper—I did not observe it so closely—he and Daley both sparred—I mean they both put up their hands, and Daley received a wound on his arm—he dropped his weapon, and went back—he had had something in his hand in the shape of a poker—there is a wall at the end of the court—he went back, and stumbled against the wall—Murnan followed him up, and they laid hold of one another—they both fell—Murnan had the weapon in his hand at that time, and Daley had nothing—Murnan happened to get up first, and he knelt on Daley, and hit him so many blows on the head, I cannot say how many, with this weapon—Daley lay on his back, with his two arms by his side—he was in a pool of blood, and quite insensible—the prisoner got up, and went to his own house, and I cried out, "Oh, Murnan, you murderer, you have killed the man, I will prosecute you to-morrow"—the prosecutor was taken to his mother's, and then to the hospital.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Are you married?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—I have left there now, because Murnan's wile used to be always threatening me since this occurred—she never threatened me before—I go out to work at the wash tub—when I came out first, I saw Daley—he was talking to his wife—I live in the third house from him—I heard his wife speaking to him—I could not judge from the sound of her voice whether she had got out of Murnan's room—there were some very bad words—I had not heard such till that time—I have not been in the habit of seeing much of them—they could not have much difference, they have been but three months married—I had never been to their room but once—I went to see her—that was the only time I ever was in Daley and his wife's room—when I came out, I did not remain listening to them many minutes, not above five—they were abusing each other the whole time—I heard the wife's voice distinctly—I knew the wife's voice, it was almost time I should—I came down again in about half an hour, because I heard the noise in the court again—I know Mary Warwick and Elizabeth Warwick by seeing them—I did not see them there—I heard a voice saying, "Keep back Tom, Murnan is coming out with the chopper"—that was not Daley's wife's voice—as near as I can say, it was some relation of Daley's, because there was a relation of his standing across the court—there was his sister and a relation of his there—I cannot say which spoke—I cannot swear it was either of them spoke—the words were, "Murnan is coming out with a chopper"—Daley's wife was in Human's house at that time—soon after I heard the words I saw Murnan coming out—Daley was at that time close by Murnan's door—I did not hear Daley challenge him to fight, or use any bad language to him—I did not hear Daley say, "Come out and fight, I have that that will do for you"—I never heard him mention a word—when Murnan came out, Daley was at his door, and they both sparred—they put up their hands—I was about four yards from them—there was a light at the corner of the court, but not near them—I saw</p>
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<p>something in Murnan's hand—they were sparring two or three minutes, I dare say—I dare say there were blows struck—I saw Daley put up his hand, and Murnan too—each had a weapon—the weapons struck each other,'and made a noise—I said before the Magistrate that the prisoner and Daley were both brandishing some weapons—afterwards Daley stag
<lb/>gered back against the wall—they closed, and the poker fell from his hand—I suppose they were struggling three minutes before they fell—they both had hold of each other, and both fell together—Murnan happened to be uppermost in the fall, and he knelt upon Daley—he struck Daley many times, and then Murnan went to his own house—Daley was taken to his father's—I did not see him taken—I went to his own house, and saw him afterwards—at this time Daley's wife was in Murnan's house, as near as I can possibly say—I saw her afterwards—she came over to see her husband, who lay in a pool of blood—she began to cry out, "My husband is mur
<lb/>dered, my husband is murdered!"</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-166" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY DONOVAN</persName> </hi>. I live at No. 5, Palace-place, in the front room, down stairs—I heard a disturbance on the morning of 2nd Dec.—I went out in the passage, and heard Daley and his wife having an argument—I turned in again, and thought it was no business of mine—I afterwards heard a noise again—I came to the door, and Daley and the prisoner were in the act of falling—they were within two or three doors of me—they were against a dead wall—I got frightened, and saw Murnan put his knee on Daley's chest, and he was chopping him on the head with whatever he had in his hand—Daley was lying down on his back, and was insensible—I saw the blood—the prisoner got up and went down the buildings, he went into his own house with whatever he had in his hand.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were there many people in the court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not at first—there were three or four till the time the report went about that there was murder—I did not hear any one cry out about a weapon—the last witness stood at the door with me—she was at the door before I came—I do not know how long she had been out—when I came out Daley and the prisoner were in the act of falling.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you and Ford lodge in the same room?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> She slept in my room that night.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-167" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY PHIPPS</persName> </hi>. I am house surgeon at St. George's Hospital. On the morning of 2nd Dec. I was called up to see Daley—he was perfectly sensible—I found he had a scalp wound over the left eyebrow—on putting my finger in I found he had a compound fracture of the skull—the skin was cut through, and the muscle and the bone had been broken also—it was a dangerous fracture, at least we thought so at the time—I saw his hand was bruised—I found nothing else at that time—the nurse afterwards said to me that there were two or three little scratches on the head, but they were of no consequence—I could not tell whether they were scratches, or done with a chopper—they were small wounds at the back of the head—he remained in the hospital till the 26th Dec.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You see this fire iron, would a blow from this pro
<lb/>duce the wound?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, some parts might—some of the injury might be caused by a very hard fall against a piece of flint—if two persons were struggling against a wall, and they fell, it would depend on what the wall was composed of whether it would have caused the injury—a smooth wall would not, but a sharp wall composed of flints might—it must have been done by something sharp—it was rather like a wound by a cutting instru
<lb/>ment—the skin was broken, and the different tissues were cut—it was not</p>
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<p>a clean cut—it was a serrated margin at the edge—the edges were jagged—it might have been done by the sharp corner of this fire iron.</p>
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<interp inst="t18560107-name-168" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS TUGWELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, T</hi> 193). On Sunday morning, 2nd Dec., I heard the cry of "Murder!" worn that court—I went up and saw Daley lying on the pavement in a pool of blood, with a severe wound on his fore
<lb/>head, and two others at the back of his head—I inquired who did it, and they told me, and in consequence I knocked at the door of No. 3—the pri
<lb/>soner refused to admit me—I told him I was a policeman—I burst the door in—another policeman, Woodbridge, was with me—when we got in, the prisoner stood in the middle of the room, with this fire iron in his hand; he was making use of very violent language, and threatening to knock the first person down that should attempt to take him—the other constable and I rushed in upon him, and took the iron out of his hand—he continued to resist, and became very violent—I was obliged to get the assistance of four or five other constables to take him to the station—I found this chopper in the room of Warwick, another lodger in the same house—I did not observe any marks or wounds about the prisoner, he made no complaint—there was some blood on him—I found this other part of the fire rest when I came back to where Daley had been.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you examine the prisoner's head?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—there was blood about him—it might have been on his slop—I did not observe any blood on his head—(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner here showed a shirt which was very bloody</hi>).</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How did the blood come on his shirt?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> That might be in going to the station—he was very violent, he threw me down, and struck the other officer, who spat blood for an hour afterwards—I did not knock him about—he might have fallen on the ground and struck his head—he threw me down two or three times—I saw blood on his arm and on his slop, about the breast—there was very little blood on him—he had his trowsers and his smock on when he was apprehended—I do not know whether he had any
<lb/>thing else—his wife was in the room when he was apprehended—it is a very troublesome place, people are always quarrelling there—there was a great deal of blood about where Daley lay—this other part of the poker I found about two yards from where he had lain.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS DALEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Will you swear you did not challenge the prisoner to fight when you went to his door?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not—I did not use those words, that I would
<hi rend="italic">do</hi> for him—I did not hear my wife call out to the prisoner to take care, as I had something in my hand to cut him with.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">of unlawfully wounding</hi> </rs>.—
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