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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHALLIS, MAYOR. ELEVENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, September</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The Rt. Hon. the
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDNEY</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SALOMONS</hi>; Sir
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<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi> </persName>, Knt., Ald.; and Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOSEPH LEGGE</hi> </persName>, was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. DEARSLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">B. THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-3" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to the messenger of the Court of Bankruptcy—I produce a file of the proceedings in the case of the bankruptcy of Joseph Legge—I have the adjudication on 2nd April, the declaration of the bankrupt, and his examination before Mr. Commissioner Evans, on 4th April; before Mr. Commissioner Fane, on 5th April; and again on the 9th, before the same Commissioner. (
<hi rend="italic">These examinations being read, in part, were to the following effect-:—On the two first examinations, the defendant stated that Mr. Marshall was the landlord of No.</hi> 4,
<hi rend="italic">York-terrace, Southampton; that he was no relation of his, but he had known him two or three years; and on the last examination he stated that Marshall was his father, and that the property found at Southampton was deposited by him with Marshall.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-4" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT JOHNSON</persName> </hi>. I am usher to Mr. Commissioner Evans—the statutable declaration was signed by the prisoner in the room—I explained the meaning of it to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You did not see him sign it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; but I asked him if that was his name and handwriting—I do not recollect whether he had a solicitor on that occasion.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-5" type="given" value="JOHN THOMAS"/>JOHN THOMAS TREHERN</persName> </hi>. I am managing clerk to Mr. Payne, solicitor to the petitioning creditors—I was present at the examination of the prisoner on 4th April—I saw him sign the statutable declaration—Mr. Johnson explained the meaning of it to him—I called Mr. Johnson's atten
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<p>to him—I was also present on 5th and 9th of April—I heard the meaning of the declaration explained to him on those occasions also.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you know whether he had the assistance of a solicitor on the first occasion?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He had not—on the 5th he had Mr. Wallinger, and on the 9th, Mr. Linklater.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-6" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SPITTLE</persName> </hi>. I am a detective officer. On 2nd April, I received a warrant for the apprehension of the prisoner, and went with Mr. Zuccani to Southampton—I found the prisoner there on the following day at 4, Yorkterrace—I was answered by a man who called himself Marshall—I said, "Mr. Marshall," he said, "Yes;" I said, "I am a police officer, and hold a warrant from the Bankruptcy Court for the apprehension of Joseph and John Legge"—I did not see the prisoner then—in consequence of what Mr. Marshall said, I found it necessary to search the premises; there was a great deal of resistance to my doing so, on the part of Marshall and the prisoner's wife—after I had searched the greater portion of the house, the prisoner came from the upper part of the house; I lodged him at the police station at Southampton that night, and brought him to town on the following day, Monday, and handed him over to the officer of the Bankruptcy Court—on 20th April, I was at Guildhall police-court—I saw Marshall in the prisoner's presence, in a room adjoining the police court—after the examination of Marshall, I said to him in the prisoner's presence, "What money has your son given to you?" the prisoner replied, "I have not given him any, it was given by Mr. Wontner"—Mr. Wontner appeared for him on that occasion—I did not see any money pass—I do not remember that Marshall himself said anything—I have seen Marshall and the prisoner in conversation together, but I have not heard the particulars of the conversation—I have not heard them address each other as "father," or "son"—from the character of their language I always considered that they addressed each other as such; I cannot tell the words, it was from the general conversation.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You suspected that they were father and son before, did you not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I do not remember any particular expression in their conversation that led me to believe it; I did not hear them address each other as "father" or "son.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DEARSLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> However, I understand you to say, they admitted to you that that was the relationship?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not together; they have done so at different times—the father did not admit in the prisoner's presence that he was his son—the prisoner has not admitted to me in direct terms that Marshall was his father—I do not recollect anything particular that he said about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What took you to Guildhall?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was instructed by the solicitor for the prosecution; Samuel Marshall Legge was charged with conspiracy, I believe by Mr. Nicholson, one of the creditors—the charge of conspiracy was against the prisoner, his wife, and his father; those three were charged with couspiring to defraud the creditors of their goods—I think I attended four or five examinations before the Magistrate—the first examination was not a long one, but the subsequent examinations were very lengthy; the result of it was that all the prisoners were discharged; the charge was dismissed—I have not seen Mr. Zuccani here to-day, he has been here on every other occasion; his name is on the back of the bill—I did not go direct to No. 4, York-terrace, I traced them there—I left London, and chose to go to Southampton; I was not desired to go there, I chose my own course—I did not know that Marshall was living at Southampton; it was stated before Mr. Fane that Marshall was at Southampton, but I went there before that.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you no instructions to go to Southampton?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I used my own discretion about that; I heard certain accounts in connection with this business, and I thought it most prudent to go to Southampton—the furniture that I found in the house there was cabinet and upholstery furniture; some was finished, and some not; there were tables, and chests of drawers, and sofa frames, and chair frames—it seemed the stock of an upholsterer's and cabinet maker's.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DEARSLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were the parties remanded four' times on the charge of conspiracy?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe they were, I did not attend the whole of the examinations; I believe the case was beard before four different Aldermen—I went to Southampton because I heard that certain goods had gone there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What quantity of property was there at Southampton?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No. 4 was a six-roomed house, and two kitchens besides; it was full of furniture, and there was some more at No. 5, the house adjoining, No. 4 not being sufficiently large to hold it—I do not mean that the house was furnished for habitation, but the rooms were crowded with furniture, piled one on the other—I believe there was four or five tons of it—I believe it to be worth some hundreds of pounds—what I said to Marshall at the police court was, "What money has your son given you?"—I am sure I used that expression, and then it was that the defendant answered—I remember nothing more being said—beseemed to recognise the expression as alluding to him, I did not address him—I have heard them conversing on other occasions, but I cannot mention anything that they said.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-7" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LEGGE</persName> </hi>. I know the prisoner; I believe he is my brother. I have known him many years, and he has been brought up as such; I could not prove he was or was not—he has always lived in the family as my brother—my father's name is Legge, his Christian name is Samuel Marshall—I believe his name is Samuel Marshall Legge—I and the prisoner have lived together with him as his sons—my father has never to my knowledge gone by any other name besides Legge—my brother, father, and myself were not living together previous to the bankruptcy—my father did not live with me at Brompton, he did in Chelsea; he then went by the name of Legge—I will not swear that my father never went by the name of Marshall, to my knowledge; he might have done so at York-terrace, Southampton, but I was not present when he took the premises—I went down there on the Thursday night, and left on the Sunday morning following—I think he did go by the name of Marshall there—I have been in business with my brother—I have aided him in selling furniture by auction, P arranged the sales—the first sale was at Tunbridge; I arranged that with a gentleman, to whom P was well known for twelve months before, and he sold the goods by auction for me without my brother knowing anything about it—there was afterwards a sale at Canterbury; my father arranged for that sale by my instructions—my brother had an interest in that, but he was not present—it was a sale by public auction; I was there and received the money—the goods were sold in the name of Legge—I went by the name of Anson there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long have you been in partnership with your brother?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About ten weeks altogether; my name was used jointly with my brother's for about ten weeks—I entered into partnership with him about 1st Jan., the business was then carried on jointly in Churton-street—sales were effected at Canterbury and Ramsgate; the goods were sold by public auction—the name of the firm was Joseph and John Legge; the goods were sent down to Canterbury, and sold there by public auction—I was known to the parties, although I went in an assumed name, as is commonly done—P was known as the proprietor of the goods; after the sales at Canterbury and</p>
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<p>Ramsgate, certain sums were paid to the creditors—I do not know how much exactly—some money was paid to the creditors immediately after the sale at Canterbury—the whole of the money taken at the sale at Canterbury was expended in the firm, and principally paid to the creditors; my brother disposed of the money that was realised from the sale at Ramsgate; I believe it was paid to two different creditors—I assisted in taking the goods down to Southampton—we intended to sell them there, and offer them as a composition—we thought of selling them at a great advantage, as I am well known there, better than in my native town—they were to be sold in the same way as had been done at Canterbury and Ramsgate—my father bad formerly occupied a house at Southampton in his own name—that was in 1847, I have no doubt that there were cards found on the premises that would prove it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DEARSLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he live there in the name of Legge?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, in the new town there; I do not know how it was that he came to take the name of Marshall—the sales I speak of were what are called speculative sales—they were forced sales, we were obliged to make up money for our bills, but I have speculated in sales for years, and have realised more than I could otherwise.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What do you mean by a forced sale?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I should say it would be to go and sell a certain amount of goods for about half their value.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DEARSLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was there a loss to you in every case?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was a very heavy loss at Tunbridge and Ramsgate, but the loss by the Canterbury sale was very trifling; I believe, there was a loss—they sold for much less than we had to give for the heavier goods, but then we were charged an exorbitant price for them—you will find on looking over the sale account, that the goods I had from my creditors fetched the full value—my father had ceased to live at Southampton for two or three years before this affair—he had then been known there under the name of Legge, and myself too.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-8" type="given" value="JOHN STEERS"/>JOHN STEERS HINKES</persName> </hi>. Mr. Zuccani is in a very dangerous state; he is at his residence in London.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I am managing clerk to Mr. Zuccani's attorney—I have not seen Mr. Zuccani for these three weeks, I am only stating what I have heard.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-957-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 30.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM HENRY WHEELER</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. HUDDLESTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-10" type="given" value="FITZROY"/>FITZROY NORTON</persName> </hi>. I am the son of Mr. Louis Norton, the attorney for the prosecution. I produce the proceedings in the Westminster County Court in the cause of Edwards against Perry—they are certified in accordance with the Act of Parliament—(
<hi rend="italic">these being put in were two summonses; one for 22nd June, and the other for</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th July, for a claim for bad money passed by the defendant to the plaintiff</hi>)—I attended on 7th July, and acted as the attorney for Mr. Perry, my father being unwell—I took notes in the case—I have them with me—the defendant Wheeler was called as a witness on behalf of the plaintiff Edwards.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you endeavoured to obtain the attendance of Mr. Bailey, the Judge, with his notes?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and I was informed that day by the Judge, in open Court, that he had taken no minutes whatever.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You were taking a note without any view to criminal proceedings, merely as a note in the case?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—(
<hi rend="italic">reads</hi>—"Wil
<lb/>liam Henry Wheeler. I am a coffee house keeper. I received money from the defendant—he paid two crowns and two shillings—I had seen him</p>
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<p>before—he gave two crown pieces and ten shillings—I marked it across the head (
<hi rend="italic">crown produced</hi>)—that is my mark—he, the young man, took it—he was gone about half an hour—I know the young man, but not his name.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined.</hi> I never purchased any bad money—I know a person of the name of Taylor—I took two crown pieces of Edwards—I never took two crown pieces of Taylor—I paid Taylor for a leg of mutton 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—no conversation took place—Mr. Edwards paid him a half-sovereign, two crown pieces, 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—on Edwards coming to me, I gave it to him to take back and show Perry, of whom he said he took it in part change of a sovereign—he shortly returned, saying Perry had given him half a crown, when I went with him to Mr. Perry's, who demanded the half crown he gave to him to be returned, which was done—Mr. Perry took possession of the bad coin, saying something about imposition being practised on him—I discovered the crown piece produced to be bad—the young man came into my place for change for a pound—I gave the pound to my daughter, and gave the young man change all in silver—I gave him the crown piece, when be immediately discovered it to be a bad one before he left the shop—I said, 'It is good enough; take it, and see if they will take it, as I did; make a mark on it, and if they will not take it 1 will take it back'—he went away, and returned in half an hour—I marked the crown piece across—he is not here—I have known him six months—he is a shopman, I cannot say to whom; I think Mr. Lawrence, who is a tea dealer—this is the crown piece paid to me by Edwards—(cautioned by Mr. Norton)—I did not buy a bad crown piece—I never buy any bad money at all—I did not buy the crown piece produced, of a person of the name of Taylor—I know a Taylor, a butcher, next to Perry's; but on my sacred oath, I did not buy of him, on the Saturday night, the 4th June, or any other time, a bad crown piece, nor the one produced; and if be dares to say so, I shall indict him for perjury—I that Saturday night purchased of Taylor a leg of mutton, and paid 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., which I paid him with a crown piece—I received 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I never had any bad money at all; and although I take and give change in business for sovereigns, half-sovereigns, half crowns, and less silver than that, I did not, during that day or week, give change for a crown piece; so I know I must have taken the crown piece of Edwards—when he paid me, he paid me twelve shillings, two crowns, and two shillings—he paid me in the street, after we left Perry's—we do not settle our business in public houses—Perry has sent to me several times; I think about four times—I did not go, because I thought if he wanted me, he should come to me; it was not likely I should go to him—I have seen him several times—I have been in his house, and I believe him to be a respectable man—I am friendly with him—I thought it was his place to come to me—I went to Perry's on Monday, and Perry took the crown piece, the one produced, and said something about imposition—I told Edwards that the crown was bad on Monday—this is the crown piece given to me by Edwards—I swear I did not buy it of Taylor, on Saturday night, for 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I swear it")—the trial was on 7th July; I could not swear whether it was on Monday or Tuesday—I saw the prisoner sworn—Mr. Cuff administered the oaths to him, and the clerk of the Court placed the book in the hands.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DEARSLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is that a full note, or merely a portion?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It is a note of what I thought necessary to take; I did not take a verbatim note—Mr. Bailey generally takes notes; in this case he did not.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. HUDDLESTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you certain he said nothing to qualify the expression that that was the crown piece paid to him by Edwards?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes he was cautioned on cross-examination.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-11" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH PERRY</persName> </hi>. I am the prosecutor in this case; I keep the One Tun, in Chandos-street, Covent-garden. On Saturday night, 4th June, a person named Edwards purchased a quartern of gin at my house—his landlord, I believe, was with him, Wheeler, the defendant—Edwards tendered me a sovereign in payment for the gin—I gave him change, and among it was two crown pieces—it was 19
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in amount—there was two crown pieces, 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver, and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—they left together—this was towards 9 o'clock in the evening—on the Monday morning Edwards came to me again, and laid what appeared to be a crown piece on the counter—it was a bad one—after some conversation, he said it was a bard thing for him to lose it, he being a working man—I told him I was likewise a working man as well as himself—my wife suggested, that being a neighbour I should give him half a crown, which I did, and he went away—after he bad left I obtained some information with reference to a crown piece from a man named Taylor—that was about 1 o'clock—about 3 o'clock Edwards came again, with his master, as he called him; not the prisoner—on that occasion I got the crown piece, and next day I got back my half crown—on 7th June I received a summons, and attended the County Court on 22nd—Edwards did not appear then, and the cause was struck out—I afterwards received another summons, and the case came on for hearing on 7th July, before Mr. Bailey, the Judge at the County Court heard Wheeler sworn and examined as a witness—he said the counterfeit coin produced was the one paid to him by Edwards, and that he bad no other by any other means whatever during the week—he was questioned by Mr. Norton as to whether he had purchased it from Taylor, and he swore that he had not, and threatened an action against anybody that said so—he said on his sacred oath that he did not buy it of Taylor, and that if Taylor dared to come and say so, he would indict him for perjury—I did not give Edwards a bad crown piece on the Saturday, I gave him two good ones—the crown piece produced at the hearing was not the one I had given Edwards on the Saturday.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Edwards is here, I suppose?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have seen him this morning—I did pay two crown pieces to Edwards Edwards himself told me it was a bad one on the Monday following.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-12" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-12" type="surname" value="FARROW"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-12" type="given" value="DENNIS"/>DENNIS FARROW</persName> </hi>. I am usher at the Westminster County Court. I was present on 7th July, when the cause of Edwards against Perry was tried—I recollect Wheeler being sworn—I handed the book to him myself—I have not a recollection of the evidence he gave—I remember Taylor giving evidence in the cause—after that, the case was put back, in order that Taylor's wife and niece might be sent for—they came, and gave evidence—I saw a crown piece produced—it was ordered by the Judge to be impounded—I produce it—the Judge made an order for the case to be prosecuted.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-13" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-13" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-13" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am a butcher, of No. 58, Chandos-street, Coventgarden. I opened my shop on Saturday, 4th June I think it was—I received from my wife that evening a bad crown piece—I saw the defendant there that evening, and said to him and one or two others that I had taken a bad 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-piece, that I had opened that day, and it would take the profit off that day—the defendant said it was as good as gold—I said I doubted it, and he said he would give me 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for it, which he did, and put it into his pocket—I made a mark with my teeth on the lower part of the head, under the neck—I should think this is the crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—here is a mark on it—it is not</p>
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<p>on the cheek, but lower down—he bought a joint of meat, for which he paid 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 9 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you mean to swear this is the crown piece you delivered to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> To the best of my belief it is—I have no doubt about it—I knew Mr. Wheeler to be a respectable man of business, and I thought his judgment was better than mine.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> He, being a respectable man, you thought you would
<hi rend="italic">do</hi> him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, I thought the first loss was best—I did not utter it to him—if I had known confidently that it had been a right down bad one I should have put it into the fire—I did not believe that, but I believed it not to be a good one—I think I should know that identical crown by sounding it—I could not swear to it by the sound—there is no mark by which I know it except the mark on the neck, not the mark on the cheek—I can see the mark on the neck plainly enough, and swear it is the mark of a tooth—Wheeler was not drunk—he might have had something to drink—he was not at all affected by liquor—I bad seen him come out of a public house in the afternoon—I could not tell that he had been drinking by his manner—it was in the evening I saw him come out of the public house—I cannot tell you what time, but it might have been two or three hours before I passed the bad crown to him—my wife, my niece, three or four other people, and two steamboat captains, one of whom is here, were in my shop at the time. (
<hi rend="italic">The witness, at the request</hi> of
<hi rend="italic">the Court, made a math with ink on the crown piece at the part where he stated the tooth mark to be visible.</hi>)</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-14" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness. On the day my husband opened the shop in Chandos-street, I took a bad crown, which my husband afterwards sold for 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to Wheeler, who took it away with him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you noticed it yourself?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not till I was going to give change, when the person objected to it, and it was sold a quarter or half an hour afterwards; I cannot say exactly the time—I was sure it was bad—Mr. Taylor said he doubted it, and Wheeler said it was good—Wheeler might have had drink, but lie did not appear as if he had; he was not drunk—he might have had a little drink, but I thought he had not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-15" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-15" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-15" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-15" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am Mr. Taylor's niece. On the day he opened his shop, I remember my aunt taking a bad crown piece—it was sold to Mr. Wheeler for 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he took it away with him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was Mr. Wheeler drunk?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot say; I do not think he had been drinking—he did not appear like it—he seemed to know what he was after.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you hear all that passed at the time the crown was sold?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; Mr. Taylor said his wife had taken a bad crown piece—it was produced, and Mr. Wheeler said it was as good as gold—Mr. Taylor then said anybody should have it for 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and Wheeler gave 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for it—Mr. Taylor bit it to try it, but Wheeler did not try it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-16" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-16" type="surname" value="MARTIN"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-16" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD MARTIN</persName> </hi>. I am a waterman and lighterman. On Saturday night, 4th June, I was in Taylor's shop, and heard him say he had taken a bad crown piece—it was passed from his wife to me, and from me to Wheeler, who said he would give a
<hi rend="italic">bob</hi> for it, or something like that—I should fancy he looked at it—he gave 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for it, put it in his pocket, and took it away—I saw him afterwards at the County Court; he told me he was committed for perjury—I said it was a very bad case, and he said he was very drunk at the time, and did not remember it—I should not think he was drunk, but be might have been drinking.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The defendant received a good character.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">on the</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">nd assignment.</hi> </rs>
<hi rend="italic">Strongly recommended to mercy by the Jury.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-958-18530919 t18530919-958-punishment-2"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANN FOREST</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18530919-959-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">To enter into her own recognizances in</hi> 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">and one surety in</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.,
<hi rend="italic">to appear and receive judgment when called upon.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, September</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">COMMON SERJEANT</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SALOMONS</hi>: and Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury</hi>,</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-960-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="receiving"/>, feloniously receiving 76 yards of carpet, value 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530919-960-offence-1 t18530919-name-19"/>James Humphries</persName> and others.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="italic">See page</hi> 394.)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RYLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-20" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-20" type="given" value="MORRIS"/>MORRIS MESSENGER</persName> </hi>. I am warehouseman to Messrs. James Humphries and Co., carpet manufacturers, of Skinner-street. On 23rd July Johnston came to their premises, with what purported to be an order from Mr. Usher for some carpet—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—we had a customer named Usher, and, believing this to be a genuine order, I delivered some carpet to him, and he took it away—I have seen that carpet since—it was here last Sessions—the value of it was 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—the order turned out to be a forgery—the carpets I afterwards saw were my master's, and what Johnston got by means of this paper.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-21" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-21" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-21" type="surname" value="USHER"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-21" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS USHER</persName> </hi>. I am a coach lace manufacturer, of Long-lane. I had been a customer of Messrs. Humphries—Johnston had been in my service, but had left five or six months previous to 23rd July—I did not write this paper, nor authorize any one to write it—I did not authorize any one on 23rd July to get two pieces of carpet from Messrs. Humphries.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-22" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-22" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-22" type="surname" value="COGHLAN"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-22" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN COGHLAN</persName> </hi>. 1 am a porter. I remember Saturday, 23rd July—I was taken into custody on that day, when I had some carpet in my possession—I got that carpet from Mr. Dawson's public-house, in Harrow-alley, Houndsditch—I got two pieces—I was carrying the second piece when I was stopped—I got them both from Mr. Dawson's—I took the first piece to Mr. Isaacs' Exchange, and Mr. Isaacs' porter was there—it was
<hi rend="italic">Jack</hi> Liley, the prisoner, who ordered me to go to Mr. Dawson's to get the carpets—he first came to me about 12 o'clock, when I was sitting down in Mr. Isaacs' Exchange—he called me, and told me to go for a truck, and to go and fetch two rolls of carpet from Mr. Dawson's—I tried to get a truck, and could not—I told Liley I could not get one, and he said he would get a bag for me—he got a bag in the Exchange, and gave it me—I went to Dawson's, and got the first piece—Liley did not go with me—I took the first piece to the Exchange, and Liley called the porter to lock it up—he sent me back for the other piece, and as I was coming the policeman took me—he asked me where I got it—I told him—I went with him to the Exchange—Liley was not there then—the policeman took the carpet—I suppose I should have been paid for the job; Liley told me I should be.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is not Dawson a publican?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it was about 12 o'clock in the day when I first saw Liley in the Exchange—there were a good many persons about the market—I cannot say whether there were two other persons close to Liley at the time he told me to go for the carpet—the carpet was in the taproom; Liley was not there—I</p>
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<p>left him in the Exchange—I went by his direction to Dawson's—I got the carpet, and took it to the Exchange—Liley was there, and he called a porter to lock it up—I went back for the other—I did not carry them both together; they would not go into the bag—the carpet is not here.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-23" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-23" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-23" type="surname" value="MESSENGER"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-23" type="given" value="MORRIS"/>MORRIS MESSENGER</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The carpets are sold now—I have pieces which were taken off them (
<hi rend="italic">produced.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> These were cut from the carpet that was here last Session?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; the order was brought to me and the carpets were delivered by me—I identified the carpets here last Session—we made them ourselves; I have no doubt about them—there is a difference between our manufacture and others—we speak particularly to our colours—I tied the carpets up before they went out.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-24" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-24" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-24" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY DAWSON</persName> </hi>. I keep the Three Compasses, in Harrow alley. Coghlan came to my house on a Saturday; I do not know the date—I believe it was 23rd July—there were some rolls of carpet at my house which had been left by four prisoners, who were tried last time, Kelsey, Davis, White, and I do not know the name of the fourth; I know his face it was not the prisoner; he was not one of the four—I know him—he called at my house that day, about a quarter before 1 o'clock, at the time the carpet and the four men were there; he did not say anything to any of them to my knowledge—he did not say anything to me—he was in the tap room—I did not hear him say anything to anyone of those persons—he stayed about a minute and a half—he went away—he said nothing to me about the carpet, nor to them, in my hearing—Coghlan came for the carpet in about ten minutes—he was alone—he went into the tap room, took one piece away, and came back for the other—I believe be put a piece of canvass over the carpet—I let him take it, knowing him to be a-porter in the market—I did not see him or Liley afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-25" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-25" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-25" type="surname" value="DUNGLISON"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-25" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS DUNGLISON</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 68). On Saturday, 23rd July, I met Coghlan, in White-street, Harrow-alley, about a quarter-past 12 o'clock—he had a great roll in a bag on his shoulders I followed him—he went into Isaac's Exchange—he put down the roll at a door of a
<hi rend="italic">lock up-</hi>—I went and asked him about it—I know Liley; I did not see him on the Exchange—I took Coghlan into custody—I afterwards saw the locker searched—there was another piece of carpet there—I took them both, and they were identified by Mr. Messenger as Messrs. Humphries's property—in consequence of what Coghlan said, I looked for Liley—I did not find him for some time—he was not found till about two days after the last Session—I believe he was found in Houndsditch—I have known him several years.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-26" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-26" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-26" type="surname" value="HALE"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-26" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY HALE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 625). I took the prisoner on the Friday after last Session, in White-street—I told him there was a warrant for his apprehension for having carpet in his possession, well knowing it was stolen—he did not say anything.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did he not say he knew nothing at all about it, and He had nothing to do with it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I did not part with him—I stayed with him till the charge was entered.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-27" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-27" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-27" type="surname" value="KELSEY"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-27" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES KELSEY</persName> </hi>. I was tried here last Session, and acquitted. I know the prisoner by sight—I saw him in Houndsditch on 23rd July, about ten minutes before 12 o'clock—I had not anything with me—Johnston and Davis had the carpet in a truck—they were about a yard behind me at the time—Liley beckoned us over, and we went all together to Dawson's public house with the carpet—it was taken out and put in the tap room; it was two pieces—Liley went in with us—the carpet was sold to Liley by us altogether—I took</p>
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<p>part in it; I and Johnston and Davis sold the carpet to Liley—he gave 50
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it—we left it there, and went away directly—Liley did not go with us; we left him and the carpet at the public house.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you tell Liley that you obtained this carpet by false pretences?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not; I cannot say that any of my companions did—I am not in the habit of dealing in carpet—I never was in trouble before—I had seven days for a quarrel with a policeman, that was all—I was never charged with dishonesty—this 50
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was equally divided—we were paid in two sovereigns and a half—the half sovereign was changed—Davis was tried here last Session, and was acquitted.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-28" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-28" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-28" type="surname" value="DAVIS"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-28" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I was tried last Session, and acquitted. I remember being with Johnston and Kelsey, on 23rd July—we had two pieces of carpet-Johnston drove the truck, and I helped him—when we got to Houndsditch, two men beckoned us to follow them—I cannot say who they were; I cannot swear to the prisoner being one—I have'a slight remembrance—he is very much like one of the men—he has a great likeness of him—we went to a public house—I cannot say the name of it—I do not know who kept it; it was somewhere in Petticoat-lane, or Houndsditch—we all went in—we took the carpet out of the truck, and left it there—I saw some money paid on account of either Kelsey or White, I cannot say which; it was paid by one of the men who took us in there—I had a good look at the man who paid the money—I cannot say who it was—I believe the prisoner was the man 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was paid—I got several pints of beer, and 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in money.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Do you swear that the prisoner is the man who paid the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot; I swear he was in the room, and that he was one we met in Houndsditch, but I will not swear he paid the money—I was in gaol before the time I was in prison on this charge, but not for such a thing as this—it was not for horsestealing or housebreaking; it was for answering to another young man's name in the Militia—I was tried for that offence at Worship-street—I was summarily convicted, and got six months; that was on the 13th of last December.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530919-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-29" type="surname" value="WRIGHT"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-name-29" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WRIGHT</persName> </hi>. I am porter, at Isaacs' Exchange, at Houndsditch. I know the prisoner—I saw him there on Saturday morning, 23rd July—he brought some carpet done up in a bag—he asked me to lock it up, and he would pay me by-and-bye for doing so—I locked it up, and he gave the wrapper to Coghlan—he said to him, "Here,
<hi rend="italic">Dublin</hi>" (that is the name Coghlan goes by)—Liley went away, and Coghlan came back with another large roll of carpet, and the policeman with him—the policeman had both the rolls away.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When did you first hear about this matter?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I heard that Coghlan was in custody—a young man told me who helped to carry the two parcels up with him—I saw the officer about the matter on the Saturday—I went to Guildhall, but was not examined—Coghlan carried one parcel—I did not see the first brought to the locker—I saw Coghlan bring the second through the market—Liley was not with him, but Liley asked me to lock them up—he did not tell me to whom they belonged—he is not in the habit of dealing in carpets; he deals in clothes, and one thing or another—I had never locked things in the locker for him before—I have known him for some time, ever since I have been there—I never heard anything against him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There were two pieces of carpet; who brought the first?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Liley asked me to lock it up, and said he would pay me—the carpet laid there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I said I had seven days—I reside in Albion-place, Bartholomew-close—I am now in this prison, on suspicion of being concerned in stealing a horse.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, September</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1853.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 1
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<p>and met the prisoners at the corner of Aldermanbury-postern, and took them into custody—they did not turn away from roe at all—Lambourn was with me—King dropped some halfpence and a glass from her right hand, between them, as they were arm in arm—they were coming away from the spot where it happened—Lambourn had ran forward and told me to stop them.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I was with another policeman when the prisoners turned round.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statements before the Magistrate were here read, as follows</hi>: King says, "The prosecutor wanted to take indecent liberties with me." Kelly says, "I saw the man on the ground and I went to pick him up."</p>
<hi rend="italic">King's Defence.</hi> The man came up to me in the street, and wanted to take indecent liberties with me; I pushed him down.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Kelly's Defence.</hi> I did not touch the man at all, I merely picked him up, and walked straight down Fore-street.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I did not put my hand on King in the first instance; I never touched her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-966-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 21.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-54" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES HULL</persName> </hi>. I am potboy to Mr. Looby, who keeps the Nag's Head, is Houndsditch. On Wednesday night, 7th Sept., I left my place, at a quarter past 12 o'clock, and was going home—when I got outside my master's house I saw the prisoner and a gentleman together in the street, about two doors from my master's house—I saw her strike the gentleman in the pit of the stomach, and knock him backwards—he fell on the ground—I ran to his assistance, and picked up his hat—I then saw the prisoner with her band in his side pocket; she drew a pocket book from it—she put it under her arm, under her shawl—I was trying to assist the gentleman up; the prisoner was still standing there, but I thought I bad better not make any alarm for the police, or she might run away—as I was trying to help him up, I saw the policeman a little distance from me—as he came towards me, the prisoner turned round, and saw him coming, and threw the pocket book into the middle of the road—I saw that—the policeman picked it up, and took her into custody directly—she was quite close to the gentleman at the time she threw the pocket book away, and then the policeman took hold of her—the gentleman appeared to be very much in liquor—while the constable was holding the prisoner, she said to the gentleman, "Have I robbed you?"—he replied, "I do not know"—at the same time she dropped some silver from her right hand—I believe a gentleman who assisted me to pick up the prosecutor picked up a shilling, and the policeman picked some up—just as the police, man had the prisoner in custody, a young woman passed by, and the prisoner said that that young woman had given her the pocket book to throw away—that was not so; I saw the prisoner take it out, put it under her arm, and afterwards throw it away—the young woman did not have anything to do with it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> The gentleman was very drunk, I believe?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he was not able to stand—I had just come out of my master's house when I saw this; it was close to the pavement—I did not see two men and a woman there—I saw the woman while the policeman had the</p>
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<p>prisoner in custody; I believe she had just come from towards Bishopsgate street; she came up, and stopped—the prisoner laid hold of her, and said she would not let her go; that she had given the pocket book to her to throw away—she was passing by when the prisoner laid hold of her—I did not see any men except the gentleman that assisted the prosecutor up—the policeman came up about two minutes after I saw the prisoner throw the pocket book away—I said to her, "Let the woman go; that woman is quite innocent of it"—the prisoner said she would not let her go; that she would see the gentleman righted—the woman got away from her—there was no light in front of the shop; it was quite dark—I was assisting the prosecutor up at the time I saw her take the pocket book; he was lying on the ground at the time—I mean to swear that I saw the prisoner strike the gentleman in the stomach—I could not exactly say what sort of blow it was; she struck him as I came out—he was not staggering at all—she struck him the moment I came out—I went up to him, and it was then that I saw her take the pocket book out.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see Ellis there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-55" type="given" value="ABRAHAM DAVID"/>ABRAHAM DAVID ELLIS</persName> </hi>. I am a commission agent, and live in Bevis Marks, St. Mary Axe. I was passing through Houndsditch, about 10 minutes past 12 o'clock, on the night in question—I was walking on the side of Duke-street, which is on the opposite side to the Nag's Head, and I saw a man fall down, with his back towards the pavement—I crossed over to pick him up, and when I got there I saw the prisoner leaning over him, and rifling his pockets of the contents—from her manner, I was induced to believe that she was his wife—she said, "Do get up, George, because if the policeman comes and finds you here, you will be taken to the station, and fined 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.;" and she asked some of the people who were passing to get him up—I was about going away, when the policeman came up and took bold of her—she then threw the pocket book which she had taken from the man's pocket into the road, and the money she let fail by her side—the policeman said to her, "Halloo! I have got you now," or something to that effect—the boy had picked the gentleman up the moment before the policeman came up—two or three of the leaves of the pocket book were scattered about—I helped the policeman to pick up the money; I believe I picked up a shilling and a sixpence, and two leaves of the pocket book—I did not assist at all in picking up the gentleman—while the policeman had hold of the prisoner, she pointed to a woman who was standing in the road, and said, "I hare not done the robbery; that is the woman standing there"—that woman had not taken any part in it, or gone near the gentleman—she was about two yards away from him all the time—she had not taken anything from his pocket; she was in the road, and the prisoner was on the pavement—I saw the book taken from the pocket distinctly—the other woman had no more part in it than I had.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had the gentleman got up when you crossed the road?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The boy was helping him up as I crossed over—the other woman was standing in the road when I got over—I say positively that I saw the pri
<lb/>soner take the pocket book out of the gentleman's pocket—I have not the least doubt about it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was that during the time the boy was helping him up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It all happened in less than a minute—when I crossed the road, she was taking the things out of his pocket; the boy was helping him up at the same time—it was all done in the boy's presence—he had got up before me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-56" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL OBEE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 649). About five minutes past 12 o'clock, on the night of 7th September, I saw the prosecutor in Churchpassage, Houndsditch—he was lying down on the pavement; the prisoner</p>
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<p>was with him, and when I got up to them she said, "Assist me up with him, for 1 cannot get him home; he is very obstinate, and he won't come along; be has been drinking; I have been to the Bank with him, he has been patting in 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to-day"—with the assistance of another officer, I picked him up, and said, "Will you walk home?" the prisoner answered and said, "Will you go home to Jane, or will you go to the station house with the policeman?"—he said "I will go home"—I asked her whether she knew him; she said "Yes; he married my sister"—she said to him, "Come along, Jane will be in a dreadful way when you get home"—I said to him, "Can you walk?" he said "Oh, yes, I can walk"—she laid hold of his arm, and said, "Come along," and they walked away together; this was about 150 or 200 yards from where they were afterwards found—I afterwards followed them into Houndsditch, and saw them there, and two or three more round them; I went up to them, and saw the prisoner throw a book down on the pavement or into the road—I picked it up, and directly laid hold of the prisoner—after she bad thrown the book away, she pushed towards the gentleman, and said "Have I robbed you?" he said "I don't know"—the potboy and Ellis were both there at that time—I said to the prisoner "I thought you told me that you knew him?"—she said "Well, I know him by sight; I have not robbed him"—I picked up 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and some other persons helped to pick some up; that money had come from the prisoner's right hand—she rushed against the prosecutor, and I saw her hand go down, and directly beard the money on the pavement; I picked it up at that place, there was 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. altogether; I produce it, and also half a sovereign which dropped from her while taking the charge at the station—as we were going to the station she screamed out "Murder!" and said "These be Jew boys have been and robbed him, and now want to lay it to me"—she was very violent; there was a woman standing by, and the prisoner said that that woman had taken the pocket book—I did not see that woman do anything—while she was at the station, she put her hand into her pocket, and the half sovereign dropped from her—she put some money into a purse while the charge was being taken; it contained 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where was the other woman when you came up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the pavement—she was not close to the prosecutor, but two, three, or four yards from him—the prisoner was about a yard closer to him—the other woman said she knew nothing about it—several persons came up afterwards—I did not see the prisoner take the pocket book out of the pocket; I saw her throw it into the road—the potboy and Ellis were there before me.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you came up and took hold of her, did you say anything?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I asked her what that meant—I did not say, "Now I have got you"—from what the potboy told me I took her to the station directly.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-57" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD HOWELL</persName> </hi>. I am a retired publican, and live at No. 35, Cowperstreet, City-road. I remember seeing the prisoner on this Wednesday—I did not marry her sister—she is no relation or acquaintance of mine—I never saw her before the night of 7th September—I then saw her in Bishopsgate-street—I had been making rather free with a few friends, and was the worse for liquor—I do not recollect what occurred when the prisoner met me—I had a memorandum-book with me—the one produced is it—I had a half sovereign, and from 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver, in a bag in my trowsers pocket—I had another bag, with nothing in it—I do not know what became of my money; it went, the empty bags were left—I did not give any money to the prisoner—I did not go anywhere with her that I am aware of—when I was in Houndsditch I remember receiving a thrust in the pit of the stomach, which knocked me down,</p>
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<p>and I came with my head on the pavement—the prisoner gave me the thrust my head was cut very severely, and I was obliged to go to the hospital to get it strapped up; I lost a deal of blood—I remember nothing else.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What distance was it from where you first met the prisoner to where you fell down and cut your head?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot say exactly; I should think somewhere about 200 yards—I do not exactly recollect anything that transpired—I do not suppose she was leaning on my arm; I do not remember anything of the sort, she may have been—I remember walking very well from the Borough, and remember every turn till I got into Bishops gate-street, and then what I had taken seemed to take a curious effect upon me, and I forgot all about everything—I swear positively that the prisoner gave me either a blow or a thrust—I expect she was trying for my watch, for my ribbon was broken, and two buttons were torn off my waistcoat—the watch was left in my pocket, but the ribbon, which was a very strong one, had given way—it was fastened to the two buttons—the blow did not injure my stomach, the only effect of it was to throw me down.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. or 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—these are them (
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., in the name of John Jordan—I did not know the value
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 271). I took the prisoner on 30th Aug., and found these two duplicates relating to the plates upon him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I asked the prosecutor for a little money that morning, and he had not got it, so that I took the liberty of taking the first plate to get what I required for breakfast; on the second occasion I was away in the morning; when I came in he was displeased with me, and I did not like to ask him for a shilling, and I took another plate with the intention of getting the two on the next morning; I had no idea of making away with them.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. EVERARD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What wages had he?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was working by piece-work, he could earn from 24
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. to 30
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. if he worked regularly—I believe he has been ill.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury,—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">BUSHIE</hi>, stealing a purse, an envelope, and 19
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in money, the property of
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-67" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>Mary Ann Kircher</persName>, from her person; to which</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">BUSHIE</hi> pleaded
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<interp inst="t18530919-969-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. **—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-969-18530919 t18530919-969-punishment-14"/>Four Years of Penal Servitude.</rs> </hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-68" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE SCOTT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 8). On 29th Aug., about 8 o'clock in the afternoon I was on duty at London Bridge wharf, and saw Mrs. Kircher come from a steam boat on to a lighter, carrying a bam) box in her hand—I saw the prisoner Bushie put his hand into her pocket—I saw the other prisoners—I saw them all three standing talking together for two or three minutes before, and when Bushie left to go to the lady, one on each side closed on to Bushie so as to take off the attention of any one behind—I was in front—I saw Bushie put his left hand into the prosecutrix's dress, and take it out again—I laid hold of his hand, and asked him what be had there—he made no reply—I opened his hand, and took this purse out of it—I then told the prosecutrix—I had first seen the prisoners about five minutes before, when I was on the Hull boat—Mrs. Kircher came from a Gravesend boat, the passengers from that boat had to pass over the Hull boat—the lighter was outside the Hull boat, and the Gravesend passengers had to cross over the lighter—when I first saw Bushie and Nicholls, they went across the Hull boat on to the lighter—I saw Nicholls go and feel a lady's dress in front, the lady was with a gentleman—Nicholls left, and then Bushie went and felt her—I saw them leave in a hurried manner, and go to Pickett—that was the first time I saw Pickett—he was about two paces from them, on the same lighter—I then saw them all return, Bushie and Nicholls went and stood in front of the lady and gentleman with their hands behind them, Pickett went before the lady and gentleman pressing before some more passengers that were waiting to go on board the boat—there were about fifteen or sixteen persons on the lighter at that time, or there might have been twenty—the lady and gentleman moved away in consequence of being pressed, and then the prisoners went to the prosecutrix in the way I have described—when I took Bushie into custody, Pickett went on one side of the lighter and Nicholls the other, but I pushed them into the gangway, they could not get off—I knew them all.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> There was some confusion and crowd was there not?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There was, more than usual, because this is a boat that comes up and lands her passengers and takes others to return; I am a detective officer—I do not know whether Pickett knows me—I was standing as near to the prisoners as I am to his Lordship, Pickett must have seen me—the first lady did not make any complaint to me about being pressed upon—Pickett did nothing to the prosecutrix except closing upon Bushie when he did it, he closed upon him—he got as close to him as he could, so as to prevent any one from behind seeing what Bushie was doing—i saw him, because I was in front.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where was Nicholls at that time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was also behind Bushie—one was on the right side of him, and one on the left—there were other persons both on the right and left of the lady—there was no one between me and the lady—the gangway was clear—she was just coming on to the gangway from the lightershe was about the first of the passengers to land—there were many after her—they were letting them out as fast as they could take their tickets—I bad never seen Nicholls speaking to Bushie before that day—I saw them all three in conversation that day—I did not hear what they said, but I saw them all standing together, in conversation—they were standing as people do in conversation;</p>
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<p>not with the rest of the crowd, away from the crowd—I swear they were talking together, because I saw the motion of their mouths—I have been a detective officer twelve years—I am not paid anything additional for these cases—I have had a great many of these sort of cases.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What was in the purse?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> 19
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Where was it that you saw them all three in conversation?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the lighter—the mooring rope had not been made fast a minute when this happened—they were on the lighter before the Gravesend boat came alongside—I am quite sure they did not come out of the Gravesend boat—I saw the attempt on the first lady before the Gravesend boat came up—I should say Mrs. Kircher was the first lady that came up the gang way, and they followed directly afterwards—there were a good many persons on board—there was only room for one at a time at the gangway.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-69" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN KIRCHER</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, living at Otterden, in Kent. On 29th Aug. I came up in a Gravesend boat, and landed at London-bridge—I had a bandbox with me—I bad a purse, containing 19
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and an envelope, in my dress pocket, on my right side—I was shown the purse by Scott—this is it—I am quite sure of it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NICHOLLS</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530919-970-offence-1 t18530919-name-72"/>William Dean Miller</persName>, and fixed to a building.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 441). On Wednesday night, 7th Sept., about a quarter to 7 o'clock, I was watching an unoccupied house in Cheapside, which was to let—I saw the prisoners enter the house—in about a quarter of an hour Scott came outside, and shut up the shutters, and left Rolfe in the house—he went to Mr. Debenham's, the auctioneer, in Cheapside, and took the key there; it was about 100 yards off—the woman did not come out, but she let him out, and let him in again when be returned—he remained in till 25 minutes to 8 o'clock—he then came out with this lead (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) on his shoulder—it was tied up in a red handker-chief, and in this blue bag—the woman came out about a second or so after him, and closed the door after her—they went up Freeman's-court, into Honey-lane Market—I followed them—the man waited till the woman came up to him—I then took them both into custody—I asked him what he had on his shoulder—he said, "Some lead"—I said, That is just what I want you for; you must go to the station with me"—I took them there—he said be knew nothing of the female; that he had met her promiscuously at the corner of Lawrence-lane, and merely asked her to mind the house while he went with the key, and that he gave her some beer for so doing—he said he thought the dustmen were about to have the lead, and he thought he had as much right to it as they had, or something to that effect—there were 33lbs. of it—they both gave false addresses—Scott gave his as No. 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., High-street, Hoxton Old-town—I inquired there, and they said they had left, and they did not know anything of them; they had been living there, but had left about a twelvemonth—the woman gave her address where her husband was lodging, in Lamb's-passage, Chiswell-street.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-74" type="given" value="FRANK GISSINGHAM"/>FRANK GISSINGHAM DEBENHAM</persName> </hi>. I am an auctioneer, of Cheapside. Scott was employed by me to take down the shop shutters at No. 19, Cheapside, and keep the windows clean—that house and shop were to let
<lb/>in consequence of information, I examined the house on a Wednesday after
<lb/>noon, between 3 and 4 o'clock, and found the lead pipe in the cellar</p>
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<p>removed, and hanging on a hook on the wall—I informed the police—this lead produced appears the same, only it has been cut into short lengths—it had been fixed to the building—it had evidently been cut the day before, as on the following day the water came out.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Scott. Q.</hi> Did not you engage me to clean out the premises?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I did not tell my brother so—I gave you half a crown to keep the windows clean only; but I went one afternoon, and found you sweeping out the shop; I asked you why it was, and you said you had nothing else to do.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-75" type="given" value="THOMAS NUNN"/>THOMAS NUNN DEBENHAM</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">examined by the prisoner.</hi>) I told you that I was instructed by my brother to tell you to clean the place out.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you authorise him to carry away the lead pipe?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-76" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-76" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY PURLE</persName> </hi>. The prisoners lived at my house as man and wife for eleven weeks or three months, down to 17th Sept., when they left, and we could not get in—i lost nothing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Scott's Defence.</hi> I took the pipe with a perfect knowledge that I was not committing any offence; I was not going to convert it to my own use with out the sanction of my employers; I am a married man, this is not my wife.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SCOTT</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530919-970-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 26.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">ROLFE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530919-970-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18530919-970-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 28.</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-970-18530919 t18530919-970-punishment-15"/>Confined Three Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; the goods of
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-79" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-79" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BALL</persName> </hi>. I am a printer, of No. 21, Bread-street Hill. The prisoner lived in the same house as me, and slept on the same floor, but not in the same room—on 16th Aug., between 11 and 12 o'clock at night, I missed a coat from a box in my room—I had seen it safe that morning—my box was Dot locked—this is the coat (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it is worth 25
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You have known the prisoner some time, as a fellow apprentice?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; there is a room between his room sod mine—we have not been regularly in the habit of going into each other's rooms—we were not very intimate; we dined together, and so forth—we breakfasted together sometimes—if I required to go into his room I should have gone, and he into mine—I never lent him a coat; I lent him a pair of trowsers once, which he returned—I missed the coat on Tuesday, and it was shown to me by the pawnbroker on the following Thursday.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you authorise him to take this coat?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-80" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BRISTOW</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Dickers, a pawnbroker, of the New Cut, This coat was pledged there on 17th Aug., by a female, for 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—Luck, the officer, afterwards brought the duplicate to me; this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it is the one which I gave to the person who pledged the coat.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-81" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM LUCK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 430). On Wednesday, 17th Aug., a few minutes past 11 o'clock at night, I went to Mr. Allen's, No. 21, Bread-street Hill, and saw the prisoner there in bed asleep—I awoke him, and told him he was charged with stealing a coat—he asked Mr. Allen, who stood by my side, whether he wished to transport him—i found five duplicates in his fob, one of which was the one produced relating to the coat—he then pot his trowsers on; they were the same which he wore when before the Magistrate.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Who is Mr. Allen?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe he is the person to whom the prisoner is apprenticed—I did not see Ball that night.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-82" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-82" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BALL</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I am apprenticed to Mr. Clay, of Bread-street Hill; Mr. Allen is his manager, and I live in his house; I mentioned it to him on Wednesday morning.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">in addressing the Jury, submitted that if they were of opinion that at the time the prisoner pledged the coat he entertained any intention of redeeming it, they ought not to find him guilty. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">having expressed his dissent</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">proceeded to argue the question, as he was not aware that there had been any decision of the Judges on the point; he referred to an ancient definition of larceny, and contended that any intention of restoring the property, or even the most visionary hope of being able to do to, was inconsistent with the animus furandi necessary to constitute a felonious taking; if the prisoner, instead of pledging the coat, had merely worn it, the prosecutor would have been equally deprived of his property for the time, although under such circumstances no Jury would convict.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called the attention of the Court to a decision of Mr. Baron Gurney, in the case of Reg.</hi> v.
<hi rend="italic">Phetheon, 9 Car and Payne</hi>, 552.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RIBTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">referred to Rex.</hi> v.
<hi rend="italic">Phillips.</hi> 2
<hi rend="italic">East, p. 662. The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">in leaving the case to the Jury, expressed his concurrence with the opinion of Mr. Baron Gurney; the question was whether at the time the property was taken, it was taken for the benefit of the party taking it, and against the will and without the consent of the owner; if the prisoner had both the intention and the power of restoring it, it would be no felony; but it was for them to say whether by pledging it, he did not, in a great measure, put it out of his power to restore it; it was for them to say whether the prisoner took the coat against the will of the owner, intending to deprive him of it for his own benefit.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-971-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 23.—
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Jury.</hi>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, September</hi> 20
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MUGGERIDGE</hi>; and Mr.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COMMON SERJEANT</hi>.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; she paid me a 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-piece—I took it as good, and gave her change—I put the 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece in the till—there was other silver there, but no other 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-piece—Mrs. Gad looked in the till about five or ten minutes afterwards, in consequence of something that was said to her—no one had been to the till in the meantime.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-93" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH GAD</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Henry Gad; I keep a shop at Tottenham. I remember the day on which the prisoner came to the shop—in consequence of something that was told me, I looked at the till between 5 and 6 o'clock hi the evening; I found one 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-piece in it, and only one—I put it in the detector, and bent it—I found an officer, and gave it him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-94" type="given" value="ARNEY FRANK"/>ARNEY FRANK BENWELL</persName> </hi>. I am shopboy to Edmund Reynolds, a baker, at Tottenham. On 29th Aug. the prisoner came, about half past 5 o'clock in the evening, for two penny buns—I served her—she gave me in payment a half crown—my master came, and took the half crown out of my hand—I am sure that the one he took was the one the prisoner gave me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> You did not touch it; it was a strange man took it up.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> There was a gentleman there, he took it up, but it was not out of my sight—he gave it to my master.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How did the gentleman come by it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was in the shop—the prisoner put it on the counter, and I looked at it—the gentleman took it, and gave it my roaster.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-95" type="given" value="EDMUND"/>EDMUND REYNOLDS</persName> </hi>. I got a half crown on the 29th of Aug., from Benwell—there was a strange gentleman sitting there, but the lad gave me the half crown; and he told me, in the prisoner's hearing, that he got it from the prisoner, and he said it was bad—the prisoner said she was not aware of it, and it was given her the evening before by a gentleman—I kept her for half in hour, and no one came—just as she was going out the policeman came, and I gave the half crown to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> It was the gentleman who gave it you; the boy never touched it at all.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> No, the boy gave it to me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, N</hi> 181). 1 apprehended the prisoner on 30th Aug.; I found her in the Strand—I had seen her at Mr. Reynolds' on the 29th—I received this crown from Mrs. Gad, and this half crown from Mr. Reynolds—I told the prisoner the charge was for uttering a half crown and a 5
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> 1 did not say such a word; I said I was very sorry—I did not know it was bad.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> On the Sunday night I met a gentleman who gave the crown to me; I did not know it was bad; the half crown I gave at the baker's was the one they gave me at the Berlin wool shop.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-100" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN LILLEY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of the last witness—I know the prisoner; I have seen her in the early part of Aug., she came for a cucumber—that was near a fortnight before she came the last time—she then gave me a half crown, I examined it; it was bad—I told her so—she said she would go and change it at the baker's—she went, and did not return—on 23rd Aug. my husband brought me a half crown—I took it down and saw the prisoner in the shop—I said to her, "You are the lady that was here before; I shall not let you go away"—she said a gentleman gave her the half Crown in the Strand, and she did not know it was bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I bad not been in your shop for several years; I gave your husband the half crown; it passed through several hands.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> My son was in the shop, but the half crown was in my hand the whole time—I am certain the prisoner is the person who came before.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, F</hi> 155). The prisoner was given into my custody on 23rd Aug., by the last witness—the prisoner told me she did not know it was a bad half crown, that she had taken it of a gentleman who gave her three half crowns to go in a brothel in Exeter-street—I went with her to No. 34 there, the house she pointed out, and they told me there in her presence that she had not been there at any time—the prisoner made several excuses, and said she had been there—I then took her to the station—I produce two half crowns, one I got from the last witness—the female searcher found the other on the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Who gave you the half crown, when you came to Mr. Lilley's shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Lilley gave it me; I went into a public house with it, because Mr. Lilley did not know it was bad himself—I gave it to the landlord, and he gave it me again—he did not turn round and reach to a shelf behind him—the half crown was not out of my sight at all.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-102" type="given" value="HANNAH"/>HANNAH GREEN</persName> </hi>. I searched the prisoner on 23rd Aug.; I found in her basket a half crown—there was a cucumber and some other things in the basket, and at the bottom was this half crown, wrapped in paper—I found on her 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-103" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These half crowns are both counterfeit, and from the same mould.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-980-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 29.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-105" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HART</persName> </hi>. I am shopman to Mrs. Richardson, who keeps a chandler's shop. I remember the prisoner coming on 23rd Aug., about a quarter past 10 o'clock at night; another man was with him—the other roan asked for a quarter of an ounce of tobacco, and he paid for it in good money—while I was serving him, the prisoner urged me to serve him, and said, "Make haste, I can't stop"—I asked him what he wanted; he said half an ounce of tobacco—I served him—it came to 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-piece—I did not like the look of it—I went to the publican opposite, and showed it him; he said it was bad—it was not out of my sight—he examined it, and returned it to me—I took it back, and gave it to Mrs. Richardson—the prisoner was there—I told her it was bad, and the prisoner ran out of the door immediately;</p>
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<p>but I should have told you, that when he gave me this crown piece, I asked if he had any other change—he said he had not.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did you see me in company with this other man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> You came in together, and you spoke to one another at the door; what you said, I do not know—the other man gave me a good sixpence.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-106" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN RICHARDSON</persName> </hi>. I keep a chandler's shop, in Boswell-court. This last witness is in my service—he gave me a crown piece, and told me it was bad—the prisoner was there at the time, and heard it—I went to the door and looked for a policeman; there was one outside—I called him—the prisoner ran out of the shop, and tried to knock the crown out of my hand—he struck me on the wrist as I was showing it to the policeman, but the policeman had too tight hold of it—he went after the prisoner, and brought him back in a few minutes.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I run ten yards?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; more than that.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-107" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS LILLY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, F</hi> 33). I was near Mrs. Richardson's shop, on 23rd Aug. I saw the prisoner run by when I was standing there—as soon as Mrs. Richardson said he passed a bad crown, I followed him—I told him he was charged with passing a bad crown piece, and he must go to the station—he said he should do no such thing, he should not go—he resisted—he went with me to Mrs. Richardson's, and he wanted the crown from her, and struck at her, but I kept him back—I had to get another officer to get him to the station—I found on him a half crown, one shilling, two sixpences, and 4 1/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper, all good money—I received this bad crown piece from Mrs. Richardson—the prisoner stated his name was Williams, but be gave no address—after that, he stated his name to be Burrows.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-108" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a bad one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was working down at Blackwall, and on the 20th August I got
<hi rend="italic">the sack</hi> there; I came on the morning of the 23rd to Mr. Rigby's work, in Drury-lane, where they are making a new sewer; the gentleman said he could not put me on till the next morning; I went off, and I had a half sovereign and 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in my pocket; I and some more went drinking all day; I spent the 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and had only the half sovereign left; I then went for a pint of beer, and gave the woman the half sovereign; she said she had not got change; a man who was there gave me change in a crown and some small silver; I went to this house and called for half an ounce of tobacco; I said I was in a hurry, because a boy was outside with my shovel and bottle, waiting to show me to a lodging; I asked where the man was gone; they said he was gone to get change; I came to the door, and saw the boy with the shovel and bottle eight or ten yards off; I went to him and the policeman seized me, and said I passed a bad crown; I said, "No;" the woman came up and said I had passed a bad crown; I said, "Give it to me, I can go back to the public house with it;" the policeman took me and locked me up; she came the next day and said that I gave a bad crown to the man, and he went to get change; on the 30th the man came; he had not been up before; and he said I came for half an ounce of tobacco, and gave him the crown piece, and he took it to the public house to get change; how can I tell whether it was the crown I gave? the policeman would not give me the chance of going to the public house, or I might have got the woman and the man who gave it me; I will go now with the policeman and find the place; I work hard for my living; I have lost my shovel, which cost me 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; and my bottle, which cost me 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-109" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS LILLEY</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The prisoner did not state that he changed the half sovereign, and got the crown at the public house; nor did I refuse</p>
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<p>to take him there—he said not a word—I found 4 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in coppers on him; he was slightly intoxicated, but he knew what he was about.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-981-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 43.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ELLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-112" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BIRCH</persName> </hi>. I keep the North Star, at North Hyde. I knew both the prisoners—on 13th Aug. Kingsbury came to my house, between 7 and 8 o'clock in the evening—he asked for a pint of beer—I served him—he gave me half a crown—I put it to my mouth, and said, "This is a bad one"—I asked if he had any other money—he said he had not—I asked where he worked—he said, at Mr. Westerfield's—I bit the half-crown, and made a mark on the edge of it—I returned it to him—I saw the half-crown again at Brentford—this is it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-113" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH LANGLEY</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of William Langley; be keeps a beer house, at Heston-lane, about three quarters of a mile from North Hyde. On 13th Aug. the two prisoners came to my house—I did not see them come in—they appeared to be in company—it was late in the evening—it might be 9 or 10 o'clock—Kingsbury came to the bar door, and asked for a pint of beer—he paid me a half-crown—I looked at it—there was a woman there whom I knew; I asked her about it, and she said she thought it rang well—that was in the hearing of Kingsbury—I gave him change for it, and put it into the till—there was no other half-crown there—in about ten minutes both the prisoners came from the taproom, and one of them, I could not say which, asked for another pint of beer, and put down a shilling—I said it looked very dark, but I took it, and put it into the till, where there were other shillings—the prisoners then went away together—soon after they left, the policeman made a communication to me, and I looked into the till—I there found only one half-crown, and on looking at it I found it was bad—I also found there one bad shilling—I gave the bad shilling and the half-crown to the policeman—I had marked them first—the policeman gave them back to me, and I handed them to another constable, named Byden.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-114" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, T</hi> 172). I went to Mrs. Langley's beer house on 13th Aug., about half-past 10 o'clock—I made a communication to her, and she gave me this half-crown and this shilling—I put them into my pocket, and went after the prisoners—I did not find them—I returned Mrs. Langley the same shilling and half-crown.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-115" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES TILDESLEY</persName> </hi>. My father resides at North Hyde. On 13th Aug. Kingsbury came for a pint of beer—I drew it—he paid me with a half-crown—I gave him change, and he went away—I afterwards received information, and looked at the half-crown—it was a bad one—it had been in the mean time in the till—there was no other half-crown there—it is now mislaid—lam sure it was bad—I bit it with my teeth.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-116" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TULL</persName> </hi>. I keep the Stag and Hounds beer house, at Cranford. On 22nd Aug. I saw both the prisoners—Kingsbury came first to my house, for half a pint of beer—he gave me a bad shilling; I gave it him back, and told him it was bad—he put it into his pocket, and gave me a good one—he went out—I followed him, and saw him join Carter, who was about 120 yards off—they walked together about 100 yards, towards Cranford-bridge—Kingsbury went on to the Stag and Hounds—Carter stood back, by the edge of the footpath—he stepped into a gateway when he saw the police coming—the police took Kingsbury, and Carter decamped off.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Carter. Q.</hi> Did you hear any conversation between us, or see anything pass between us?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; you stood in the gateway, leaning against a post there.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-117" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BYDEN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, T</hi> 59). On 22nd Aug. I received information; I went after Kingsbury—I saw Carter leaning against the gateway, but I did not know he had been with Kingsbury—I went and found Kingsbury, facing the Stag and Hounds—Carter saw me apprehend Kingsbury, and Carter ran away—I got this half crown and shilling—I went to the station, the prisoners were there in separate cells—Carter called to Kingsbury, and said,
<hi rend="italic">"Bob</hi>, come to the little door"—Carter then said, "How many times did you offer that piece; did you twice?"—Kingsbury replied, "No; only once"—and he said, "They can do nothing with us, we shall be
<hi rend="italic">turned up</hi> on Saturday"—Kingsbury then asked Carter if he had any money with him—he said, "Yes, a shilling, some sixpences and threepenny pieces"—that they were in the office, and he said he need not be afraid, they were all good—Carter then asked Kingsbury what he did with the bad money he had with him—he said, I lost two that I had wrapped up in a piece of paper, and I threw the other seven down at the house where 1 inquired for a water-closet"—Carter then said, "I lost two, I had nineteen, but could only find seventeen"—Kingsbury then asked Carter where he lodged last night—Carter said, At the lower end of the town"—Kingsbury said, "Hounslow?" and Carter replied, "Yes,"—Kingsbury said to Carter, "They will be sure to know you by your ear rings"—Carter replied, "I took them out, but they found them on me"—he then said to Kingsbury, "Hold your tongue, they are listening"—I went to look for the bad money that they said they had thrown away; I could not find it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-118" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half crown and shilling are both bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Kingsbury's Defence.</hi> I bad met with an accident, and had my arm in a sling at the latter end of July; it was not taken out of the sling till 20th Aug.—I went down the road to see a friend; I asked my way several times, and went into one or two public houses; I went into the Stag and Hounds—I could not see my friend, and I came out; I had not been down that road for two years before; they brought these things against me fifteen days afterwards.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Carter's Defence.</hi> I always got my living by bard work; I had a misfortune last summer, and was
<hi rend="italic">hard up</hi> for five months—I went to look for a lighter sort of employ; I was sitting down to rest my feet in the lane, and this young man came and asked me to direct him to Egham; I went up as far as the top of the lane with him, and directed him the nearest road; I left him and came back to Brentford; I slept there, and the next morning I met this prisoner handcuffed with the policeman, I went up and said, "What have you been doing?"—the policeman said, "I want you too," and he took and handcuffed me together with him—the policeman knows me, and Mrs. Langley's husband, and Mr. Birch, and if any of them can say anything against me let them speak; I wish to call them.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-119" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BYDEN</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I have known the prisoner some time—I have not known anything against him—he used to work in the brick fields—he told me that he had not done any work since he was in the brick fields—I do not know how he gets his living.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I have known him some time; I know he has worked in the brick fields—I heard somebody say something about a silk handkerchief.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I knew him last summer twelvemonths—I heard he stole a silk handkerchief—that is all I ever heard against him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-982-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 28.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CARTER</hi>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-982-18530919 t18530919-982-punishment-27"/>Confined One Year</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN GRAHAM</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. ELLIS</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-123" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN BOUNDY</persName> </hi>. I am the daughter of James Boundy, who keeps the Sun and Apple-tree, in White Hart-court, Drury-lane. The prisoner came to our house on the afternoon of 20th Aug., between 3 and 4 o'clock—he asked for 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of gin—I served him—he paid me with a shilling—I did not know whether it was good; I took it, and put it into the till—I gave him change—I am quite sure there was no other shilling in the till—in a few minutes my mother went to the till—I saw her take out the only shilling that was in it, and on examining it it turned out to be bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEARY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you ever seen the prisoner before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I saw him again when he came, about an hour afterwards; I am quite certain he is the same person—I did not say to my mother that I was not certain it was the same person—I knew it was—I said I thought it was the same person; I knew it was the same person—I did not like exactly to say so, but I knew it was—I saw him afterwards at the bar—I did not speak to him when he came in afterwards.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-124" type="given" value="HANNAH"/>HANNAH BOUNDY</persName> </hi>. I am the mother of the last witness. I saw the prisoner when he applied to me for some gin on that day—I saw him before, when my daughter served him—I am certain he is the same man—I saw him leave the house after my daughter served him—shortly before that I had been to the till, and taken out the silver—I had cleared the till just before he came in—after he left I went to the till, and found in it one shilling, which turned out to be counterfeit, and no other shilling—within an hour the prisoner came again, and asked for a 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of gin—I served him—he tendered me a shilling—I detected it to be bad—I said to him. "This is the second you have offered here to-day"—he said he had not been in the house that day—my husband was near, and I threw the shilling on the counter for my husband to look at it—the prisoner snatched it up, put it in his mouth, and pretended to bite it—I do not know what became of it—I had ascertained it was bad by putting, it in the detector; I bent it considerably, and nearly broke it—an officer was brought in—the prisoner then produced a shilling, as the one he had offered to me, and that was a good one—I looked at it—it was not the shilling which I had previously tried and bent—I told the prisoner that could not be the shilling—this is the one that he produced (
<hi rend="italic">looking at it</hi>), but it is not the one that he offered first; it cannot be, I am certain of it—I gave the shilling that he had passed to my daughter to the constable.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You saw the prisoner when he first came in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I was in the bar—he was there about a minute—I saw him in the bar and when he was going out—I did not tell my daughter I only knew him by the back—I told her my back was towards him, but I saw him in the glass, and when he went out I was looking at him, and I saw his backwhen he came in and tendered me a bad shilling I was certain he was the person who had come in before—he said he had not been in before—I bent the shilling he gave me, and nearly broke it—he put it into his mouth; I should not like to say he did swallow it; I could not say he did not bite it; I do not believe he did—he produced another shilling, which he said was the</p>
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<p>one he offered, but it was not—I examined it, and told him it was not the shilling—I knew the shilling that I had bent could not he made flat again; I am certain of that—my husband called in the policeman, and the prisoner showed a good shilling, and said that was the one he had tendered.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you certain that the shilling he produced last was not the one that you bent and returned to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-125" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS STAMFORD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, F</hi> 20). I went to the Sun and Apple-tree on Saturday afternoon, 20th Aug.—the prisoner was given into my custody for passing a bad shilling—he gave me a shilling out of his hand, and asked me if that was a bad one—I told him no, it was not—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">producing it</hi>), I received this other shilling from Mrs. Boundy.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> When you went in, the prisoner gave you this shilling, and said it was the one that she charged him with uttering?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he did not say anything about being in the house before.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530919-name-126" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-126" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This shilling is counterfeit, this other one is good—it certainly does not appear to have been bent with any instrument.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEART</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MRS. ROBINSON</hi>. I am married; I live in George-street, Buckingham-street, Strand. I remember Saturday, the 20th Aug.—the prisoner came to my house and took tea with me—he was there from 3 o'clock till a quarter before 5 o'clock.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What is your husband?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A porter, in Hungerford-market; he was at home that afternoon—he is now at work—he thought he had no occasion to come here—I do not keep this house; I have the first floor—I have known the prisoner about twelve months—he was not in the habit of coming to my house—I was passing the Temple that day, and saw him rather in liquor, and, knowing him, I persuaded him to come to my house, and I gave him tea—I know him as a drover in Smithfield—he was not an acquaintance of my husband's—my husband has seen him now and then—we drank tea at 4 o'clock—my husband was not there all the time—he came in at a quarter past 3 o'clock—he then went away, and left the prisoner there till he came in to tea, at 4 o'clock—my husband saw he was tipsy, and left him with me—he was not very tipsy, but anybody could see he was tipsy—I noticed it as I was passing him, and I persuaded him to come home with me—I had seen him tipsy before—I swear he was taken by me from the Temple about 3 o'clock, and remained in my place till a quarter to 5 o'clock—he left my place to go home—he lives in a second floor, in Newport-market—he is married—I know his wife—I swear he was at my place from 3 o'clock that day till a quarter before 5 o'clock—I could walk from my place to White Hart-street in a quarter of an hour—the prisoner's wife came last Thursday to tell me of this, and I said he was with me till a quarter to 5 o'clock that day; he did not leave my place at all till a quarter to 5 o'clock—that I am quite certain of.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THOMAS STANFORD</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see the prisoner on the Saturday that this occurred?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I saw him in Clare-market, at a quarter or 10 minutes before 4 o'clock—I did not know him before—I had seen him, and knew him by sight—I am sure he is the same man—he was standing at the corner of Clare-street, talking to a man in the fruit shop—I spoke to the prisoner, and told him he had better go home, and he went away; and the same day I took him into custody—he was not sober—he appeared to have been drinking, but he knew what he was about—I told the prisoner at the station that I saw him in Clare-market—he said, "Yes, I remember you did."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. GEARY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What time did you see him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> At a quarter or 10 minutes to 4 o'clock—I looked at my watch in a few minutes afterwards, as I was going up Clare-street—I was on duty—the prisoner was partially intoxicated.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-983-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 23.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARIA DAVIS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-128" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I am a draper; I live near Golden-square. The prisoner came to my shop on 26th Aug.—I served her with an article, which came to 5 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a half crown—I saw it to be bad—I told her so, and that it was not the first time she had been to my shop—(she was there on the Saturday before, and my boy had attended to her)—I insisted on being paid with good money—I took the scissors, and cut notches in the half crown—she paid me a 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece and a penny—this is the half-crown she gave Me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I never was in the shop before.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I am confident you were.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-129" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BAKER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, C</hi> 108). The prisoner was given into my cus
<lb/>tody—I took her to the station—as we were going there we passed near an area, and I heard a half crown drop—it did not go down the area, but glanced on the pavement—I took it up, and told the prisoner she had dropped a half crown—she said it was spite made her drop it—she said she lived at No. 55, King-street, Long-acre—I went there, but could not find she had lived there—I went to another house, No. 53, and was pointed to a back parlour—I searched it, and found another half crown between the two beds—I got into the room by a key which was found on the prisoner at the station—the key of the room door and the key of the street door were both found on the prisoner—this is the calico she went to purchase—this is the half crown she offered, and this is the one she dropped.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who found the key of the room on the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The female searcher; she is not here.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-130" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY MILLS</persName> </hi>. I live at 53, King-street, Long-acre; my husband it a shoemaker. The prisoner was lodging in my house on 26th Aug.—she had been there five weeks—on 27th Aug. the last witness came—I saw him open the prisoner's room door with a key he brought with him—I saw him search the room, and find half a crown between the beds.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I asked the landlady what the number was, and she told me 55, I understood.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-131" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half crown the prisoner offered and the one she dropped are both counterfeit.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was not at all aware it was bad.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-984-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 49.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-133" type="given" value="RACHEL"/>RACHEL GEIER</persName> </hi>. My husband is a tobacconist, and lives in Broad-court, Bow-street. On 25th Aug. the prisoner came, about 4 o'clock in the afternoon, for three cigars—I served her, they came to 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she tendered a half crown in payment—I gave her in change a shilling, a sixpence, a 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece, and two pence—I noticed the shilling I gave her—I had had it in my hand three or four times the same day—I am quite positive it. was good—it was a new one—when I gave her the change, she said she would not give 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each for the cigars, she could get them anywhere for 1 1/2 f.—she laid down a shilling, a sixpence, a 4
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<p>the cigars—she said, Give me my half crown back again"—I laid it on the counter; she took it up, and went out of the shop—when she had gone, I examined the money she had put on the counter, and I perceived a bad shilling under the sixpence and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece—I am certain it was not the shilling I had given her, it was quite a different shilling—I went after the prisoner—our shop is the corner shop, and as soon as the prisoner got by our shop I saw her running off—I ran after her—I took her by the shoulders, and brought her back to the shop—when I stopped her, she said, "Don't excite and flurry yourself like that, I have no bad money about me"—I had not then said anything to her about bad money—I brought her back, and gave her into custody.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, F</hi> 56). I took the prisoner into custody on this charge—I received this shilling from the last witness.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-135" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a bad one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I went to work for a gentleman, and he sent me for some cigars; he gave me half a crown; he said they were 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. each; I went, and she gave me the change; I said I could not have them at 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. a piece—I went out, but I did not run; had I run, it would have been impossible for her to have overtaken me; when she came, I said, "Don't make this piece of work, I would sooner give you the shilling out of my own pocket;" she took me back, and gave me in charge; I laid down the same money that she gave me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined</hi>). The prisoner took the change off the counter, and she had another shilling in her hand—I saw it plainly when she gave me the half crown.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-985-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.* Aged 40.—
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<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.—
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<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530919-987-offence-1 t18530919-name-139"/>David Carter</persName>, her master: to which she pleaded</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-989-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/>, stealing 1 cwt, of potatoes, value 5
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530919-989-offence-1 t18530919-name-144"/>Henry Ingamells</persName>, his master.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. O'BRIEN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you load the sacks?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> My men assisted in putting them up—the prisoner loaded them on the van himself—they were not in sacks when be came—he brought sacks, and they were put in them—they were filled by two men whom I regularly employ—neither of them are here—of course, I could not swear how many there were—my men left it to the carman to keep an account—the carman told me what hit master told him to take—the potatoes were loose in the truck before they were put in the sacks—there were plenty of other trucks about with potatoes, and several other persons loading.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you present at the loading of the van?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; only when it was loaded—the prisoner told me there were fifty sacks.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-146" type="given" value="WILMOT"/>WILMOT NOAKES</persName> </hi>. I live in South-street, Spitalfields. On Monday, 22nd Aug., the prisoner delivered to me fifty sacks of potatoes—I went on Wednesday evening to Mr. Parker's.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined, Q.</hi> Has the prisoner been in your employ long?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> From two to three years; he has been out on bail—I am not aware how many sacks he took with him—my foreman, who is not here, gave him the sacks—the habit is for the foreman to count the sacks, and give them to the prisoner—I was not there when the prisoner brought the fifty sacks that day.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-147" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN GUNN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police-sergeant, G</hi> 8). I took the prisoner, at his master's house—I said he was concerned in stealing a sack of potatoes—he said, "I wish to tell the truth about it; when I was coming home with my horse and van, I let the horse stop to blow, and I saw 1 bad a sack too many on my van, and I took it to Mr. Parker's—I told Mr. Parker I bad got a sack of potatoes for him, and he said, 'Shoot them, and let me look at them'—I shot them, and he put half a crown in my hand—I said, 'Is that all?'—and Mr. Parker said, 'That is ray price. '"</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined, Q.</hi> Was any one there at the time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, Mr. Noakes's father was in the counting house, and he heard it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-148" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES WHISKEN, ESQ</persName> </hi>. I live in Bedford-place. I was in Guildford-place on 22nd Aug., about 2 o'clock—I saw the van loaded with sacks—I saw the prisoner take a sack of potatoes from the van, and he carried it to No. 17, Easton-street, where Parker lives—that is between seventy and eighty yards from where he stopped the van—there was the name of Noakes in red letters on the sack, the same as there was on the sacks in the wagon—I saw the prisoner come out of the house again with an empty sack—it was full when he took it from the wagon—he threw the empty sack on the other sacks in the wagon.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you look at the house where the sack was taken?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I saw it was Parker's—he was taken in custody—he and the prisoner were both bailed—of course, I could not swear that the sack I saw brought out was the same I saw go in—I called the attention of a policeman to it—I knew the policeman, and he knew me, as a Magistrate.</p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530919-990-offence-1 t18530919-name-150"/>Henry Lawrence</persName>, from his person: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-990-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 15.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, September</hi> 21
<hi rend="italic">st</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">BARON MARTIN</hi>; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">JUSTICE CROMPTON</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">FARNCOMB</hi>; Sir
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COM
<lb/>MON SERGEANT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Crompton, and the Fourth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. CLARKSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUDDLESTON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-153" type="given" value="HENRY SANDERSON"/>HENRY SANDERSON HALL</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with my father, as a ship broker, in the Circus, Tower-hill; we carry on business under the firm of Hall and Son. On 25th Aug. I had occasion to go to the Bank for a Bank post bill for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it is the custom at the Bank to make that application by filling up a blank form given for the purpose; this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) it the form that I filled up, it is for a Bank post bill for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., payable to the order of oar firm (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "Bank post bill, 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., payable to Hall and Son, Circus, Tower-hill; value received of the same. 25th Aug., 1858")—I think I made the application about half past 9 o'clock in the morning, or before 10 o'clock, at all events it was the first thing in the morning, perhaps it might have been a little after 10 o'clock—at the time I was writing out the order, there was some person near me, I cannot say who the person was, I took no particular notice of him—having filled up the form, I handed it in to the Bank post nil office, with the 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I asked what time it would take to make out the bill—they said about a quarter of an hour; I said I could not be back so soon as that—I went away and returned in about an hour and a quarter—I was then told that the bill had been already given out; I eventually got another—I never gave any one authority to apply for this bill (
<hi rend="italic">bill produced</hi>)—the endorsement here of "Hall and Son," is not the writing of our firm, nor has it been written by our authority—it was not endorsed by my father or myself; we are the only two persons in the firm, no clerk has authority to sign for the firm—this is not the bill that I got.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> At what time do you say the application was made?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About 10 minutes after 10 o'clock, I think it was; I think there was not more than one person in the office, there might have been more.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-154" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL LEIGH</persName> </hi>. I am one of the cashiers of the Bank of England. I was on duty in the Bank post bill office on 25th Aug.—Mr. Hall would not apply to me for the bill, he would apply at the counter to one of the clerks, and fill up the form; the bill would be made out from that, and then it would come to me to sign—I remember a Bank post bill being brought to me to sign, I have no doubt the one produced is it; here is my signature—our usual practice is after signing it, to call out the name of the person to whom it is payable, if we see any person present—any person who answers and correctly describes the bill, receives it—I distinctly remember giving that bill to some person—I am not able to say to whom—I cannot be certain whether I called out the name of Hall and Son; when there are very few persons in the office we do not always call out the name, we lay the bill down and put a lead upon it; it is most likely that I did call out the name; some person applied for it correctly, and it was given to that person—I remember Mr. Hall afterwards coming and applying for it, I could not positively state how long that was after it was given up, probably about an hour.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What time in the morning was it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I should think about</p>
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<p>10 o'clock when the bill was first applied for and given—we afterwards gave a second bill to Mr. Hall, and wrote on it in red ink.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-155" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES COCKBURN</persName> </hi>. I am a clothier, at Chatham. On the evening of 30th Aug., between 7 and 8 o'clock, the prisoner came into my shop and inquired whether I sold clothes suitable for mourning—I told him that I did—he then asked me in the event of his buying a suit of clothes whether I would take a bill—I said I would—he did not produce it at that time—he said it was a bill on the Bank of England, but did not state the amount—he then selected a black coat, waistcoat, and trowsers—there was a great deal of difficulty in fitting a coat; he tried on perhaps twenty—I offered to alter a coat for him by the following morning, but he said he could not wait, as he was going very early, he did not say where—he said that he had come from Canterbury—he said he wanted the clothes to go to a funeral—after selecting the clothes he produced this bill (
<hi rend="italic">looking at the one produced</hi>)—I examined it, and saw the name of Hall and Son upon it—I asked the prisoner to endorse the bill, and he said, "It is already done, but I will put my name to it," and he put this name of "George Thompson" to it in my presence—he wrote it with my ink, which was blue—he wrote it on my shop paper on the counter—in making the flourish under the name the pen stuck and made a hole, which you can perceive—I observed that at the time—the amount of the clothes he selected was 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I told him that I could not change the bill, that I should be obliged to send out for change—I sent it out by my shopman, and he returned with it; he was not able to get it changed—I told the prisoner as I could not get it changed I should request him to bring it in the morning, and I would get it changed at the Bank—he said he would come in the morning, at 9 o'clock—I gave him the bill, and retained the clothes, and he left—he did not come next morning; I did not see him again anal he was in custody.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Was it at your request that I put the name of Thompson on the bill?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> it was.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Are you sure the prisoner is the man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and that it was on 30th Aug. that he came.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he handed me this bill (
<hi rend="italic">the one produced</hi>)—I went down stairs to consult Mr. Hendrick, the manager, and he came up stairs and saw the prisoner—he told the prisoner he would take the bill, and the prisoner consented to look at the clothes—he selected a suit; they came to 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—Mr. Hendrick said he must send the bill into the City to get it changed—the prisoner seemed to consent to that; he may have said, Very well," but he agreed to it—the prisoner at first said that he could get change in the neighbourhood—I think that was before he agreed to its being sent into the City—he said something about going by a train—the conversation was in my presence; it was directed to both Hendrick and myself—I saw him write a name and address on the back of the bill; this is it, "George Thompson, Guildford, Surrey"—he was asked to endorse the bill, which is usual at our establishment in taking notes, and he wrote that—after purchasing the suit of clothes, he was shown into another department, where hats are sold—while he was there Mr. Hendrick and I had some conversation—I saw a brown paper parcel, which the prisoner had with him; it was on the counter—I saw the prisoner take it away afterwards—while he was in the hat department I opened that parcel, and in it</p>
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<p>found a quantity of handbills—I took one out—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is it—upon that I went down to our City establishment, with the handbill and the Bank post bill, to take the opinion of our principal, Mr. Moses—I was away about an hour—when I returned the prisoner was gone.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> You say when you came back I was gone, yet you say you saw me take the parcel away; how could that be?
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I saw him take the parcel up.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> When he was at the counter, looking at the clothes—I must correct myself, I did not see him take it away from the shop, I merely saw him move it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-157" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES HENDRICK</persName> </hi>. I am manager of Mr. Moses' business, in New Oxford-street. On 23rd Aug., about twenty minutes or a quarter past 4 o'clock, Lewis came to me about change for a Bank post bill—I went up stairs, and saw the prisoner there—I told him it was rather unusual to take Bank post bill, and I would send it in the City and get it changed—he said there was no occasion for that, as he could get it changed close at hand; he said that he could have got it changed at the Bank, but he was late, and he was going away by the 7 o'clock train that evening—he said he would get it changed close at hand, and call back within an hour—I then proposed to him to select the clothes, and I would send a party with him, and when he had the change he could pay the party that went with him—he said, no, he would not select the clothes, he would call back again—I then consented to take the bill, and told him to select the clothes, which he did—he was asked to endorse the bill, and I saw him write his name and address; this is it—I put my initials on it—I find them here—after he had selected the clothes, he went into the hat department to select a hat—I had observed a brown paper parcel on the counter; I had not the curiosity to open it, but Lewis had, and he took this bill out of it in my presence—that was while the prisoner was in the hat department—on looking at that, I sent Lewis into the City with the Bank post bill to make inquiries at our other house—shortly after Lewis had left, the prisoner came up again into the clothes department, and asked for the bill for the goods and his change—I had the invoice made out; it amounted to about 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. odd—I told him I should have to detain him some little time, as I had sent one of the young men into the City to get change from our principal cashier there, because I did not wish to take the responsibility on myself—he said, "You cannot be too careful"—he asked me how long the young man would be; I told him about half an hour—he then said, "Will he be as long as that?"—I said, "Perhaps he may not be longer than twenty minutes"—he said he had to make a call, and he would call back again—I told him there was a probability that the young man would not be so long, as I had given him directions to ride—he then left, and did not return—I did not see him again till he was in custody.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he ever, in your presence, agree to the bill being sent to the Bank, or into the City?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he objected to it—I have no recollection of his agreeing to it, and I do not think he did—he had the parcel under his arm—Lewis had made it up again after opening it—it was merely untied at one end.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-158" type="given" value="THOMAS DANIEL"/>THOMAS DANIEL ERSSER</persName> </hi>. I am a lapidary, living at No. 13, Church-street, Soho. The prisoner lodged at my house for about ten months—two females were living with him—he left on 20th Aug.; he gave me no notice—after he was gone, the females had some handbills printed, stating that he was missing—I did not see the handbills—when he first took the apartments, I find by searching my book that he took them in the name of Taylor—I found.</p>
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<p>that he afterwards went by the name of Samuel Ellen; some letters came to him in that name after he had been there about three weeks, and after that I used to call him Mr. Ellen—I have seen him write—to the best of my belief the endorsement of "Hall and Son" to this Bank post bill is in his hand, writing; he has a peculiar way of making an "S" and also the flourish at the bottom—I believe this "Geo. Thompson" also to be his writing.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you seen him write often?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not very often; once or twice—I am quite sure about the handwriting, I know it so well—I have no doubt about this being his writing—I have seen him writing as I have passed him in the passage at various times, in transacting business with persons, so as to see what he did write; it was merely a glance—I have received several notes from him, sent down respecting being in arrear for rent—I have not very often had notes from him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> It is only one particular letter he can speak to, and that is the "S."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you speak to the "S" only, or to the handwriting generally?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The handwriting generally; I have seen him write with such a flourish as this—I have letters of his, but not with me—I am certain I have received one letter from him—I am not certain that I have received more than one.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>). On Saturday night, 3rd Sept., from information that I received, I went to the neighbourhood of Church-street, Soho—I saw the prisoner there, at No. 13, in the house—I asked him if his name was Samuel Ellen; he said it was—I told him I was an officer, and that I called respecting a Bank post bill for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. that he had left at Messrs. Moses', in Oxford-street, on Wednesday last—he said he knew nothing of it—I said, "Are you sure of that?"—he said, "I answer no further questions"—I then asked where he lived; he said he would rather not answer that question—he was then in the passage of the house—he was brought in by the landlord, with whom I had had some communication.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The Bank post bill was here read, with the two endorsements of "Hall and Son," and</hi> "
<hi rend="italic">George Thompson. "The handbill was also read; it stated Mr. Samuel Ellen, of</hi> 13,
<hi rend="italic">Church-street, Soho, to be missing since the 20th August, and described his age, dress, and appearance, requesting any information that might lead to his discovery to be forwarded to any police station, or to his residence, as above described.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoners Defence.</hi> I am labouring under very great disadvantage, being almost entirely unprovided for my trial, and not having the means of employing solicitor or counsel; what makes it still more painful, the principal witness in my behalf is ray own son, who was with me the whole of the day on Thursday; he can prove that we were not separated at all on the Thursday on which the bill was obtained; the fact is, that I found the bill; I picked it up on the Friday, at the entrance of Capel-court, and through misfortunes I was induced to make use of it; when I picked it up, the name of Hall and Son was already endorsed upon it; on the Thursday, at the time the bill was taken from the Bank, I don't think I bad left my home, where I was with my wife and son, in the Commercial-road; 1 am almost positive I had not left my house at the hour it is stated the bill was obtained; I am not exactly certain of the time I left my house, my son may be able to say; we proceeded into the City, and went to the News rooms in Cheapside, where we had been several times to look at the papers to see if there were any situations advertised that would suit me; on the Friday we went there again; I was not absent from my son above five minutes, I should say, and during that five</p>
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<p>minutes I went round the Exchange, and picked up this bill; I took it and showed it to my son; I did not look at it particularly at the time—with regard to the other part of the charge, as to the name of Thompson, I am not in a condition to defend that; I admit that I put the name of Thompson, but I did it in ignorance of the law, and at the request of the person with whom I was dealing; I was not aware that I was committing a forgery, or my nature would have revolted from such a thing; poverty tempted me to make use of the bill; I had been trying many things; I had one or two patents that I was endeavouring to dispose of; one for a knife-cleaning machine I disposed of to a person in Oxford-street for a trifle; I then went into the razor strop line, but was unsuccessful; I was then negotiating for the sale of a machine which I invented some years ago in Bermondsey, where I was in employment for seventeen years, but the patent was in the hands of a person from whom I could not obtain the design, and I was thus induced to make use of the bill, which I shall deeply regret as long as I live.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-160" type="given" value="SAMUEL THOMAS"/>SAMUEL THOMAS ELLEN</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's son. My father returned home on Saturday, 20th August, after being absent fox some time—we were then living at No. 39, Arbour-square, Commercial-road, Stepney—on Thursday morning, 25th August, he left home at half past 10 o'clock—I went out of the house with him—we went through the City to the news rooms in Cheap-side, for the purpose of looking at the advertisements to see if there were any situations advertised—we came straight from the news rooms to the Royal Exchange—we sat down there for a few moments, and then returned home again a little after 1 o'clock, I think; and in the evening we went out for a short walk—on the next day, Friday, we went out about the same time, and proceeded up to the news rooms in Cheapside as we had done the day before—I do not know exactly how long we stayed there, but we returned to the Royal Exchange at half past 12 o'clock—we sat down there for a few moments, and my father and I thought of whom we could borrow some money—after thinking for some time, he thought of some person in Threadneedle-street, I think he said, and asked me to go with him; I declined, and said I would rather wait in the Royal Exchange till he came back—he then went out—I should think it was not more than five minutes; I am certain it was not more than ten before he returned to me in the Royal Exchange, with the bill open in his hand—there was some mud on the bill; it looked as if it had been trodden upon, as it was folded, and he was wiping it off with his pocket handkerchief.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> We understand that your father lived in Church-street, Soho, with two women of the name of Taylor, mother and daughter?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe so; my mother lived in Arbour-square—it was on Friday, 26th Aug., that I declined to go with my father, and sat down in the Royal Exchange; I am quite certain of that—he wanted me to go with him to see a friend of his, to borrow some money of; I do not know who his friend was—we sat down to think who he should borrow money of, and it came into his head, not into mine; that was about half past 12 o'clock—I do not recollect telling Webb, the officer, that it was 10 o'clock when my father left me—I do not recollect such a thing—I cannot say whether I did or not; it was on a Wednesday evening that he came to see mamma and me—I do not know whether I told him that it was 10 o'clock on the Friday when my father left me; I should not think I did, I do not recollect—I did not tell him that my father went away from me at 10 o'clock on 26th Aug., I do not think I did; I will not swear I did not—my father came back to me while I was sitting in the Royal Exchange—he had a piece of paper in his hand, which he was wiping the dirt from; 1 do not know what it was—I looked at</p>
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<p>at the paper, certainly; I did not read it—I looked on both tides of it, I merely glanced at it—I do not know what time it was when he brought the bill back, I only know the time we went into the Royal Exchange was half past 12 o'clock—I should think it was near 1 o'clock when he came back—he was not gone half an hour—I do not recollect telling the officer that this occurred at 10 o'clock in the morning—I do not think I did, because I recollect the time so well; I must have been very agitated if I did—we sat down in the Royal Exchange at half past 12 o'clock—we were thinking; I named several persons, to see whether my father could borrow some money of them, and he said no, no; they would not do—when my father left me, he went out at the left hand side, as you stand looking towards the front of the Queen's statue—that would lead to the Bank—when he came back he said, "Look here, what I have found!"—I said, "Where did you find it?" and he said, "If you come with me, I will show you"—I went out with him, and we went to Capel-court; I do not know whether that is the entrance to the Stock Exchange—he pointed down to the side of a scaffold-pole there, that was lying oil the ground where there was some building going on, and said, "That was where I found it; it was just underneath that scaffold-pole"—(
<hi rend="italic">looking at a letter</hi>) this is my father's handwriting.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You say when he came in he said "Look what I have found," but you did not read it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not read it—my father told me in the evening that it was a Bank-post bill—that was when we were out for a walk in the evening; he did not tell me at the time—I think we got home about 3 o'clock that afternoon—I did not then know what the paper was, not till the evening.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Too saw sufficient of the paper to see that there was a name already on the back?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I saw there was a name on the back of it, as you were wiping the dirt off with your handkerchief—I saw there was a name written on the back, at the top of the bill, on the side where the printing was.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you live with your father in Church-street?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-161" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WARD</persName> </hi>. I have known the prisoner many years, and have received many communications from him in writing—I should positively know his handwriting, as far as my judgment would go—I have done business with him; (
<hi rend="italic">looking at the bill</hi>), I should positively swear that the name of "Hall and Son," on the back of this bill, was not his writing, according to the best of my belief, and I will give my reasons; on looking at the "George Thompson, Guildford, Surrey," I find an "S" which is exactly like his; it is the S" in "Surrey;" I believe that to be his—I do not think the "S" in "Son" is like his; I see not the slightest likeness whatever to his handwriting there—I saw him sign his name only a short time ago—I saw him write lately at my house—I have known him eight years; for the greatest portion of that time he filled a very important situation in a most respectable firm at Bermondsey, but from some differences which arose between his wife and himself, there was an alienation—I have had the highest opinion of his honesty and have now; his character for honesty was exceedingly good—latterly he has been in very extreme poverty—from the high opinion I had formed of him, I have advanced him sums of money from time to time—some short time ago I knew him to be in the lowest state of poverty, so much so as to be glad of a few pence.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Where was he living at that time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He gave me his address, "No. 13, Church-street, Soho"—I was never there—I am an</p>
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<p>auctioneer—he is in my debt now, not many pounds, it is for money that I have advanced to him—I formed a very high opinion of him—I do not know how be came to leave Mr. Ross, of Bermondsey—that was the employment that I referred to—I do not know that he left that service, having embezzled 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I have heard it within this day or two, from his own family—I have been in communication with his wife—the next employment I found him in, after leaving Mr. Ross, was making razor strops, he came to me to borrow money to carry out the project—I never was at the house in Arbour-square—I was never at any house where he lived, except the one at Bermondsey, when he was at Ross's—I did not know anything of his acquaintances; I formed my opinion of his honesty from his filling an important situation; until Mr. Ross died, I had no other means—Mr. Ross died about two years ago—I cannot say that I see any similarity in the writing of this "Hall and Son," and "Geo. Thompson"—they appear to me to be entirely different; the "H" of the "Hall" appears to have been written over two or three times, it appears to have been written with very bad ink—the "Geo. Thompson" is written in blue ink, and thick—I consider the two names differ as much as two hands from different persons will differ—I should not like to form any opinion upon the flourish, it is altogether different from his—I never taw the bill before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">John Garwood of Surrey-place, Old Kent-road, also deposed to the primer's good character.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="italic">of forging and uttering the endorsement of</hi> "
<hi rend="italic">George Thompson</hi>"—
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530919-994-offence-1 t18530919-name-167"/>John Kelly</persName> (with a person unknown), and stealing 16
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in money.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LILLEY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530919-name-168" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN KELLY</persName> </hi>. I am a porter, and live at No. 21, Edward-street, Dorset-square. Early on Wednesday morning, 24th Aug. I was in Long Acre—I had no watch with me—I thought it was between 12 and 1 o'clock—I went up Angel-court to make water—it is a very dark court; while I was there a man came behind me, put his knee in my back, caught me by the neck, pulled me back, and kept me tight by the throat, while another man put both hands into my waistcoat pockets, and then into my trowsers pockets—I had an opportunity of seeing the man who held me, it was the prisoner—I was not able to speak a word while his arm was round my neck—I had 16
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and a half sovereign in my pockets—as soon as the prisoner's hands were removed from my neck, the man who robbed me ran about half the distance to the corner of the court, and as soon as he had got that half distance the prisoner took leave of me, and ran after the other man—as soon as I got up I ran after them, crying, "Stop thief!" and "Police!"—I saw the prisoner before he got to the corner, I saw him turning round the corner (I had been thrown</p>
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<p>down on the ground on my back)—I ran after him, and when I ran out of the court I found that the police bad him—I felt the effects of the violence for a fortnight after—I had been drinking that night, I had taken a good drop, but I was not drunk—I recollect all that occurred—I did not see anything more of the man that had his bands in my pockets—the policeman took the prisoner to the station—I do not think I went with him, I do not know that I did.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. METCALFE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do not you recollect whether you signed the charge-sheet?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I forget whether I did or not, because I got drinking afterwards, and found myself in the station—I cannot say whether it was the same station where the prisoner was—I was not drunk before this happened—it was necessary to remand the case till 4 o'clock next day before I could be heard—I had occasion to go to that part of the town—I am a jobbing porter, not in any service—I have been a gentleman's servant—I had not been down the court two minutes before this occurred—it was a very short time taking place, because the minute I was down there the man was on me—I do not think it could be more than two minutes—the moment I was put on my back the other man was at my pockets—they went off one after the other—I was a very short time getting on my legs—I had no one-to assist me up—I got up by myself—I was up before the prisoner had turned the corner of the court—I should say it was five or six yards from the urinal to the street—I was after him before he turned the corner of the court—I bad never seen him before—it was dark there—the other man was leaning upon me, rifling my pockets—they both got down a-top of me—this occurred between 12 and 1 o'clock, nearer to 1 o'clock—I had come from home just before—I came down Regent-street, and across Leicester-square into Long-acre—it was past 12 o'clock when I left home—I had been drinking before I left home, and I drank a little on the way—I at first thought my half sovereign was gone too—I may have said so—I may have said, "I hare lost a half sovereign and some silver"—the prisoner was afterwards searched, and 16
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. found on him, but no half sovereign—I at first I said I had lost a half sovereign and some silver—I knew I had 16
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in my pocket—I did not say anything about the 16
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. at first—I said "a half sovereign and some silver"—the policeman asked me what silver, and I told him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. LILLEY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> While you were lying on your back in the court, had you the opportunity of seeing the prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, I had—I was able to get up without assistance—I was not drunk at that time—I was afterwards, and it was in consequence of that that I could not recollect what occurred—I think I told the policeman what silver I bad lost when he asked me—I found how much I had lost on examining my pockets.</