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<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHALLIS, MAYOR. NINTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—an obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, July</hi> 4
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The Right Hon. the
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHAPMAN MARSHALL</hi>, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUNTER</hi>; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">CARDEN</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., with intent to defraud; to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>). I received the prisoner in charge from Mr. Fordham, at the Fenchurch-street station.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I saw the handkerchief drop from the gentleman's pocket; I picked it up, and was going to give it to him, when he turned round and caught hold of me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The prisoner told me, after his committal, that he saw the handkerchief hanging out of the gentleman's pocket, and that he took it out.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> He did not tell me that he picked it up when I collared him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-14" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN CARTER</persName> </hi>. I am a widow, and keep the Horns public house, in Petticoat-lane. The prisoner was in my service twice—she left me, and came back about two months afterwards—she was the only servant I had—I had a purse with eleven new sovereigns in it, locked up in a little box, which I kept in a leather trunk, also locked, which was kept in my bedroom, which communicated with the prisoner's bedroom with folding doors—it was some
<lb/>times in her room and sometimes in mine—I kept the keys—I was saving the sovereigns to pay for my license, which was 13
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I had seen the eleven sovereigns safe four or five weeks before—the prisoner left my service on a Thursday, about four weeks ago—I was not aware of her going till after she left—I then went to the box and missed my purse and sovereigns, and also four or five foreign coins—the box bad not been broken open, and I had had the key all the time in my pocket, on a ring with my other keys—I' am sure I did not take the money out myself—it was a bead purse, which I had had for twenty years—two orphan children who I keep, slept in the room—a week or two before the prisoner left I told her she must look out for another situation, as she kept company with a married man—I received some information, in consequence of which I said to the prisoner, "Ellen, are you going?" she said, "Yes; that man's wife follows me so, and brings a crowd about the house, and says she will have my life"—I asked her to stop, and she said she would stop till I got another servant—that was on the Thursday night, about two hours before she left—I did not see her go, I suppose she took her box out at the side door—a woman named Connor, a sister-in-law of her's, used to come backwards and forwards—I charged Connor with taking the box away, not the money—they were both put to the bar before the Magistrate, and Connor was discharged because there was no case against her—I charged her with taking the prisoner's box—it was just getting dark in the evening when I asked the prisoner to stop till I got another maid.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> She gave me warning to leave on Thursday, and asked me what was in my box, and said she would burn it; I said "I will take it away," and I got my sister to take it.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I said that if she wore such a bonnet I would burn it—she had a white drawn silk bonnet, full of flowers, and a green parasol—I said they were not fit for a public house, and that I would not wear them myself, they were too smart.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I got my sister-in-law to take my box to a house where I used to lodge when I was out of place; Mrs. Carter brought up a dress against me which she had bought for me.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I bought it for her out of her wages, and she took it to the dressmaker's—I have made no charge against her about it, but I think I am entitled to the things, a poor woman like me—I never parted with my keys to my knowledge, unless it was while I was changing my dress.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-15" type="given" value="TIMOTHY"/>TIMOTHY DONOGHUE</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer, of No. 1, Little Love-court, Petticoat-lane. I sometimes frequent Mrs. Carter's house—I remember the prisoner as a servant there—on Friday, 10th June, I was passing, and saw Mrs.</p>
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<p>Carter—I went with her to look for the prisoner—I did not see her that day hut on the Sunday following I saw her at a dressmaker's in Petticoat-lane—seven or eight people were in the room—I knew pretty well all of them—Ellen Connor was not there at that time—I told the prisoner that her mistress had told me she had stolen her money—she made no answer at that time, but moved in among the people, and I saw her drop her parse out of her hand on to a chair close by; I picked it up, and asked her if that was not her mistress's purse; she said, "No," but told me to conceal it, and not give it to Mrs. Carter, and some of the people there told me the same—I said I should show it to Mrs. Carter, and went for her—I saw silver and copper in the purse, but I did not count it—I saw no gold in it—I gave it to Mrs. Carter in the same state as I picked it up—this (
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I bought the purse in the lane, and you took it out of my hand; I never made you that answer.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> You did—there is no witness here who saw me pick it up off the chair.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> This is my purse; it was given to me by a Spaniard twenty years ago, but was never finished.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 68). On Sunday, 12th June, about half past 1 o'clock, Mrs. Carter gave the prisoner into my custody at No. 123, Petticoat-lane, a mantle maker's—Mrs. Carter handed me this purse, and charged the prisoner with stealing it—she never uttered a word, and was taken to the station—this purse is in the same state as when I received it, except that 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. has been expended from it for refreshment for the prisoner, I do not know by whose orders—I think the superintendent ordered 1
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., a 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-piece, 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and two farthings.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> She never had that purse, it is my own; I bought it on Sunday morning in Petticoat-lane; I never took anything belonging to her; I went three times to her, and she would' not give me a character; she gave me warning, and I left.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> No duplicate keys have been found which will open my box—I know the purse, because it was never finished; there was no tassel or clasp to it—the pattern on it is flowers—I never saw an unfinished one to be sold.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Before Russell Gurney, Esq.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-21" type="given" value="JAMES VALENTINE"/>JAMES VALENTINE ALLEN</persName> </hi>. I am the prisoner's husband; we live at No. 9, New Cavendish-street; I am coachman to Mr. Chapman. On Saturday afternoon, 4th June, about 20 minutes past 4 o'clock, the prisoner was brought home to me very drunk—I got her up stairs as well as I could, and she was lying on the floor—I could make her understand nothing—I went out, and returned a little before 12 o'clock at night—she was then lying on the bed, and had been sick—she was not then so drunk as she had been, but was not sober—I attempted to make the bed, and shifted her foot on one side to make room for me to lie down, upon which she got out of bed, took the poker, and hit me on the head as I was pulling my coat off—I was taken to a surgeon, who dressed the wound, but as it would not leave off bleeding, I was taken to the Middlesex Hospital.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> He has made a false oath; he struck me first with his fist, and at the lighted candle to my nostrils.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I did not.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-22" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DOHERTY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, D</hi> 51). I was called, and met the prosecutor outside his house, bleeding very much; his face was covered with blood—I went up into the room to the prisoner—she was sober, but I could see that she had been drinking—she was lying on the bed in her clothes—I told her she had better get up, put on her bonnet and shawl, and come with me—she said she would see me d——d first—I could not get her out of the room, she kept shutting the door as I got her to it—I fetched another constable, and we got her to the station—the inspector said, "You might have killed him with that blow, and then you would be hung;" she said, "I should be satisfied to be hung, if he was dead first. "</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-23" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY FLOWER</persName> </hi>. I am one of the house surgeons at Westminster Hospital. The prosecutor was brought there about half past 2 o'clock in the morning with a contused wound, an inch and a half or two inches long—it went to the bone—it must have been a blow of considerable violence—it could be done with a poker—it bled very much.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> He came home tipsy about half past 12 o'clock, and struck me with his fist, and tried to put the glare of the lighted candle up my nostrils, saying, "I will do for you."</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-24" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN DOHERTY</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> The prosecutor was not tipsy; he might have had a pint or two of beer, but was sober.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-767-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="lesserOffence"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">of unlawfully wounding.</hi> Aged 41.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-767-18530704 t18530704-767-punishment-6"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">DANIEL DONOGHUE</hi> </persName>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530704-768-offence-1 t18530704-name-26"/>Jane Murray</persName>, his wife Margaret being alive: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-768-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-768-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 44.—
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutrix.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-768-18530704 t18530704-768-punishment-7"/>Confined Three Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY PUREY</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-28" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-28" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-28" type="given" value="FREDERICK LOUIS"/>FREDERICK LOUIS ROSSE</persName> </hi>. I am a watchmaker, of No. 4, Newman-street, and am in partnership with Sigismund Lucien Imer. I first became acquainted with the prisoner in Aug. last, when he became our clerk at a salary of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. per week, and his expenses paid—it was part of his duty if I sent him to receive money for articles sold, to bring me the money the same day—if he has received 19
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from Mr. Simmons, of Newington, he has not paid me—I sent him for the money, and it was his duty to pay me the whole sum; he paid me 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. only—this receipt (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is in his writing.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you give information to the police, or take means to give him into custody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; Mr. Russell came to me, and I told him to take him into custody—he sent me a bill in Jan. to settle this money, which I negotiated—I took his bill for 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the acceptor was John Mackin; the prisoner was the drawer—I obtained money on it, and it was paid on 7th Jan.—a letter was sent to me, telling me how much he had kept, admitting that he had received it, and giving me a bill for the balance—here is on this invoice, "Received, 30th Dec, 19
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>."—I have another bill at home for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; he gave me that to be discounted before this took place in Dec.—I have not discounted it—I sent it to Switzerland—I am not bringing an action upon it—it is due—I know nothing about whether my attorney has brought an action upon it; I gave it to Mr. Brendall, my attorney—I have not returned it to the prisoner—I gave it Mr. Brendall to get the money if he could—I do not know that he is here; his clerk is—I do not know that he sued a person upon it, and then took him into custody on execution.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When was it the prisoner's duty to pay the money to you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> On the last day of December—he came home and told me that 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was all he had received, and Mr. Simmons would pay the 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on some other watches—he first told me about having received the whole in a letter after he left—I charge him altogether with stealing twenty-one watches.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-29" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-29" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-29" type="surname" value="SIMMONS"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-29" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD SIMMONS</persName> </hi>. On 30th Dec. I paid the prisoner 19
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. on account of his employers—it is not true that I only paid him part; here is his receipt for the whole.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you see him afterwards?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he did not tell me he had not paid it to his master—I did not speak to him about it, as I had not heard that he had not paid it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-30" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-30" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-30" type="surname" value="RUSSELL"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-30" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE RUSSELL</persName> </hi>. I have not been examined on the case of embezzlement at all.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you hear of the embezzlement from the prosecutor?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; and likewise of the charge of the watches—I told him I knew where to find the prisoner, and asked him to go with me and give him into custody, but he declined to go.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> But he told you to take him, if you saw him in the streets?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROSSE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You received some money on the bill?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the prisoner sent me that bill on 11th Feb. in a letter, written in French.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY PUREY</hi> </persName> was
<hi rend="italic">again</hi> indicted
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<interp inst="t18530704-770-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/> for stealing I watch, value 30
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530704-770-offence-1 t18530704-name-32"/>Sigismund Lucien Imer</persName> and another his masters</rs>;
<hi rend="italic">also</hi>
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<interp inst="t18530704-770-offence-2" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-770-offence-2" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/>stealing, within six months, 2 other watches, value 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; and within six months, 20 other watches, value 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the goods of his said masters.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-33" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-33" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-33" type="surname" value="ROSSE"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-33" type="given" value="FREDERICK LOUIS"/>FREDERICK LOUIS ROSSE</persName> </hi>. I am in partnership with Mr. Imer, carrying on business in Geneva, with a branch establishment in London, which is conducted by me. In Aug., 1852, I engaged the prisoner as clerk and traveller at a salary of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. a week and his expenses—his duty was to collect orders and sell goods when I sent him for them—I used to take stock every month, and come to an understanding with the prisoner of what had been done by him—I was in the habit of entrusting watches to him for the purposes of sale for me, and he was to bring me back the money or the watches—I took stock in Nov., and missed four watches—I told the prisoner of it; he said he had them at home, and would bring them the day after, or in a few days—I had given them to him to sell, and ho had never returned them—I took stock on 3rd Jan., and missed then thirty-five watches, including the four I had previously missed—I believe I had entrusted twenty-six watches to him in Dec, or perhaps not quite so many—I then missed seven other watches which I had not entrusted to him; they had been taken from my stock without my knowledge—I told the prisoner I missed seven watches, and that I was quite surprised about it—he said he did not know anything about it, but he thought I was right—he then said he would bring the whole of the watches on 6th Jan.—on 7th Jan. the prisoner sent me two letters; this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is one of them—some duplicates were enclosed in it, in consequence of which I made inquiries at the various pawnbrokers indicated on the tickets, and found the watches in pledge—Russell, the police officer, came to me, and I went with him to the prisoner's lodgings several times, and made efforts to take him, but we were unsuccessful—from 7th Jan., until the prisoner was seen at Westminster Hall, I had no opportunity of taking him—</p>
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<p>he was ten weeks in Germany, at Leipzic fair—I afterwards heard of his being in England, and told Russell to take him if he could.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is it true that you would not go with Russell?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I never refused, except at the first moment, when I could not go from my business; I said I had no time to go, and I was not anxious to take him—I never employed him to pledge watches for me.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you employ him to negotiate with Mr. Attenborough for you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Attenborough gave me 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for a case of watches for three months, which I paid in ten days—those were watches which I had bought in Switzerland; I had paid for them—I did not employ the prisoner to go to Attenborough about it—he told me he knew Mr. Attenborough, and introduced me to him—in Dec. the prisoner gave me a bill of his own for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to discount—I did not promise to get it discounted for him; I said if I could get it discounted I would give the money to him—I said that, because I knew he could not do it himself—the prisoner has not been the means of getting any bills of mine discounted—he did not get any discounted—I do not recollect a bill in the name of Hartnell—I know Hartnell; I sold him some watches.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I am speaking of a bill of a person named Hedges: did you get that discounted by Hartnell?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I had such a bill; the prisoner did not get it discounted by Hartnell—he told me he knew a person at the Hall of Commerce who would do it—Mr. Hartnell went with me to Mr. Swan, who discounted it—I became acquainted with Hartnell through the prisoner—I have never given the prisoner back that 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill of his; I never saw him, so how could I?—it is not my property—it was entrusted to me to get the prisoner the money; not to get it discounted, but to get it paid—I sent it to Switzerland after the prisoner left—that was not for anybody's benefit" but I could not find him—I never got any money for it—it is here; this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I have not sued any body upon it—I gave it to my solicitor; that was to have it paid without expense—I did not promise him that if Hedges' bill was done through his friend I would do the 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill for him—the prisoner sent me the bill to discount—I would not do it, and gave it him back two or three times, and he said he could not manage it, and he should like to have the money paid by me—I sent it to Switzerland to put it in circulation, and to get money for it to give to Mr. Purey—I mean to swear that I intended to give it to Mr. Purey.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> After Purey had left you, and had robbed you, you sent the bill to Switzerland to get money to pay him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I swear that—I expected that the bill would have been paid, and I should then have paid the money to Mr. Purey, but he was not in custody and I could not—he afterwards became a witness in a case against me, and I gave him into custody; I never could take him before—the bill I received for 11
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. has been paid—these (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) are the two I O U's I received—they have not been paid—one is the I O U of a Mr. Green—I do not know him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When was it the prisoner gave you the 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In Dec.; I was unable to get it cashed for him, and sent it to Switzerland—I wanted to give it back to him on 3rd Jan., and he said, "You may keep it"—it has never been paid—several bills were returned to me unpaid; they were bills which the prisoner had taken for watches of mine, which he had sold—my watches went away, and these bills came back, in consequence of which I was obliged to go to a pawnbroker to raise money; my necessities were caused by the bad debts made by the prisoner—I became acquainted with Hartnell through Purey—I brought an action against him on a bill given by the prisoner which had never been paid—it was in March that Russell told.</p>
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<p>me that the prisoner was to be found over the water—I told him I was obliged to be absent in Germany, and could not appear against him—I told Russell to take him if he could—these I O U's have never been paid.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When was it that Attenborough advanced the 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In Dec.; I think it was on the last day of Dec.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-34" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-34" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-34" type="surname" value="WARRE"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-34" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY WARRE</persName> </hi>. I am a pawnbroker, of Skinner-street, Snow-hill. I have known the prisoner rive or six years—I do not particularly recollect seeing him at my shop on 29th Oct.; but on that day two gold watches were pledged at my shop, to which this ticket (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) refers—it is in the name of John Purey, for two gold watches, pledgedfor 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the prisoner was there on 3rd Nov., and pawned three silver watches for 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and on 24th Nov. a silver watch for 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and on 7th Jan. five silver watches for 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the watch pawned on 7th Jan. had been previously pawned—I do not recollect seeing the prisoner at my shop on 7th Jan.; he merely paid the interest on the watches, and got a fresh ticket.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What is the value of the watches?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> They are pledged for 30
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the selling price in the market in England would be about 35
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., including the duty, as near as I Can say—there are a vast number of these watches in this country—the prisoner is a watchmaker, and I always considered him a respectable man—he produced his card at the first pledging, which I have lost; but it stated that he was a dealer or importer—I only knew him in the course of business.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-35" type="surname" value="GILL"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-35" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES GILL</persName> </hi>. I am shopman to Matthew Filmer, a pawnbroker, of 3, Kent-place, Old Kent-road; I produce a silver watch, pledged by the prisoner on 20th Sep.—I have not the slightest doubt of him—this (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is the duplicate.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long have you known him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Five years, as a watch agent; I believe he has borne a respectable character—I know nothing to the contrary.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-36" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-36" type="given" value="RICHARD THOMAS"/>RICHARD THOMAS SWEETMAN</persName> </hi>. I produce a watch which I received from the prisoner in Nov. 1852.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-37" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-37" type="given" value="FREDERICK LOUIS"/>FREDERICK LOUIS ROSSE</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> These watches are mine, and were in my establishment—here are among them the seven watches which I missed from my stock, and which I had not entrusted to the prisoner: three gold ones, and four silver ones.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had not he a right to take any watches out of your stock to sell, if he pleased?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I am sure of that.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, July</hi> 4
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHAPMAN MARSHALL</hi>, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HOOPER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">LAWRENCE</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt.; and Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">COMMON SERJEANT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Fifth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BYERLY THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-39" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN PERKINS</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Samuel Perkins, of No. 84, White-street, Bethnal-green-road. In Jan., 1851, my husband was sent to Horsemonger-lane prison—he was afterwards removed by habeas to the Queen's</p>
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<p>Bench prison—I was frequently with him whilst he was there—I saw the prisoner there; I had not known him at that time—he introduced himself to me and my husband as an attorney—my husband asked him if he was an attorney—he said, Yes, he was—he asked him if he was on the rolls—he said, Yes, he was—my husband, on the faith of his being an attorney, consented to employ him—the first thing he said was, he heard we were in difficulties, and if we told him the truth, and told him all about it, he might be able to do something for us—he said he had got out a man that was in the room below, who was in the greatest difficulties—I touched my husband under the foot, and the prisoner looked very hard at me—I said to him, "Sir, it is a bold question to ask you, but are you a proper attorney?"—he said, "Yes, I am"—the prisoner said he would go and search the book to see what was against us, if my husband would give him half a crown—my husband gave him the half crown—he came in the evening, and brought a paper from the book—he said there was 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on Baron Martin's book only, and there was 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on the paper, and he could get my husband out, he thought, under a writ of error—he said it would have a very large seal, and it would cost a good bit of money, 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I gave him a 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. note to go on with; that was about the middle of March—he went away, and came again in a few days afterwards, and said it was not money enough; he wanted more money, and I gave him 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—my husband was present at that time, and saw me pay the money—the prisoner had an additional 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., which made 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he said he would see what he could do—he came again, and said he could not get us out under a writ of error, as my husband was an insolvent—I said, "If you could not get him out under the writ of error because he was an insolvent, you ought to have known that before you took my money, if you are a proper attorney"—he said he thought the best way would be to try and compromise it—my husband had been arrested for 72
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at the suit of Nicholson—in the early part of May I paid the prisoner some more money to serve a writ on Mr. Sturgess, to get some money back out of Court—I paid the prisoner altogether, on the faith of his being an attorney, between 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—on 21st June I paid him three guineas for the Counsel's fee for Sir Frederick Thesiger, and two guineas for Mr. Harrison—he said Mr. Harrison was a counsellor, and he was to be junior counsel to Sir Frederick Thesiger—I gave him 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. altogether—the 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was for clerk's fees—I paid the money in presence of my husband—on 19th Feb., 1852, I paid the prisoner 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I put down what I paid him from time to time, as I made the payments, on this paper—it was wearing out, and I made this other paper—on 19th April, 1852, I paid the prisoner 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for Mr. Harrison, the counsel, at the Judges' Chambers, to go on with the writ of error—on 12th May I saw the prisoner again; he came to our house, and I paid him 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for Mr. Harrison to go on with the trial in the Court of Exchequer, and we sat in the Court for several days to hear the trial—the prisoner gave me a receipt—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "Mrs. Perkins has handed me 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. before and up to this day. George Hetherington. ")—on 23rd Nov., 1852, I again saw the prisoner—he wanted 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to set aside a judgment, in consequence of Mr. Walker swearing to a false affidavit—I paid him 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and he gave a receipt for it—this is it—he said he had not been able to obtain his certificate, in consequence of not having my business settled—we had before employed a person, who was not an attorney, and we told Mr. Hetherington that, and asked him if he was an attorney—we should not have employed him if we had not thought he was an attorney, and it was on that faith we paid him these sums of money (
<hi rend="italic">Receipt read</hi>: "Mrs. Perkins has handed me 6
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. for to</p>
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<p>pay the costs of letting aside judgment under Judge's orders. George Hetherington. 23rd Nov., 1852. ")</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How came your husband to be a prisoner?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was an action brought for slander; it was tried before Baron Martin in 1850, and there were no damages obtained—there was 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. put down, and Baron Martin said the jury would not allow any expenses, and my husband was arrested for the costs in that action—when the prisoner was introduced to us, no one was present but me and my husband—there might have been a Mr. Borer in the prison—I know Mr. Huggett now; I did not know him then—neither Mr. Borer nor Mr. Huggett brought the prisoner to my husband's room—there was no person present at the time he came up—the prisoner first said he would go and search the book, and he did—I bare not seen this paper before (
<hi rend="italic">looking at one</hi>); it was a little slip of paper he had in his hand—he told me the entry in the judgment book was only 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., that was all—if we had owed the money we should have paid it, but not owing it we did not wish to pay, and my husband was in prison for it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I suppose you told the prisoner you did not owe the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> We told him there was something wrong, because the Sherriff told us we ought not to go to prison—the prisoner told me to go and get the papers, and I brought them him—it was before I brought him the papers that he suggested the writ of error—Mr. Sorrell had the papers before; he was our attorney—he was an attorney—the person who came to us, and whom my husband asked to file the schedule in the Insolvent Debtors' Court, was not an attorney—when the prisoner came to us, it was between 15th March and 4th April, 1851—he said he could get us out under the writ of error, but, if not, he could get bail—I do not remember the prisoner suggesting to my husband that he would introduce him to an attorney—my husband did not say, "We want no more attorneys," never; nothing of the kind—the prisoner never brought us a document purporting to be a writ of error—before we saw the prisoner, my husband had applied to the Insolvent Debtors' Court—we told the prisoner that; we told him we bad applied on 15th March, and the Commissioner, Mr. Laws, told us that he would remand it till 4th April, and he told us on 4th April what Baron Martin had said—there was a meeting to give bail, to bail ray husband out of prison—that had nothing to do with the writ of error.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When the two gentlemen came to give bail, did the prisoner say to them that the matter required consideration?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He told them that the bail was no good, that my husband could not get out under bail, because he was an insolvent—he did not say, that because my husband was insolvent, it would he waste of money, to proceed; he said bail was of no good, because my husband was insolvent—the prisoner came to me after that—he did not express some disappointment about the way matters had turned out; about my not having told him the whole truth—he said that a writ of error would not do, and we had better compromise, and he would go with me; that was after we went up on 4th April—I did not ask the prisoner to assist us in this insolvent proceeding—I gave him half a guinea and a brief to deliver to Mr. Nicholson, but I believed the prisoner was an attorney—on 4th April my husband was heard at the Insolvent Debtors' Court, and the Commissioner said he had been to see Baron Martin, and he said he should do nothing till he was in Court—he appointed Mr. Nicholson assignee—he was the opposing creditor; he was the man that had my husband in prison—the reason of this delay from April to Nov. was to see Baron Martin—my husbandwas</p>
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<p>remanded till 4th Nov" and Nicholson, the opposing creditor, was appointed assignee—I cannot tell the reason of this remand—there was no concealment of property in the case—my husband assigned a house to my brother—it was mine; I had bought it at the hammer—my husband assigned it to my brother some time before he went to prison; it was not with a view to his insolvency—I cannot tell whether he was remanded on account of that assignment—he was remanded till 4th Nov.; I do not know why he was remanded—Mr. Law did not say it was a fraudulent assignment of property—it was after that that the prisoner advised me to compromise—he did not say we had better pay the debt and costs; he said we had better compromise, and he went with me to Mr. May and asked what he would take, and he said 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and I said I would try and get it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Your husband was in prison for 72
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and he petitioned the Insolvent Court to be discharged?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he was remanded from March till April, and from April till Nov.—we paid the whole of the schedule debts, 104
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—during all this time my brother-in-law collected the rents—the money did not find its way to my husband; sometimes it did—if my brother wanted the money he had it—the money did find its way to my husband, but that has nothing to do with it—we sometimes had it; sometimes my brother had it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What part of the prison was your husband in?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> The back part; he received 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week—he did nothing at all to get that 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he was put there for a false debt—Baron Martin said each party was to pay their own costs—my husband was discharged on paying 104
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I got the money of my brother—I have not paid it him; I still owe it to him—the freehold house is still in my brother's name—that is not to protect us from our creditors; we have no creditors—the house is still in my brother's name, but it is our property.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> And being in possession of this, your husband went on the poor side of the prison, and after he was discharged he paid his debts?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he paid his schedule debts, but was not discharged for three days afterwards, 11th Nov.—the debts were paid on the 8th—after my husband was got out there was a notice went to Mr. Sturgess—I was present when the prisoner advised my husband to bring an action against Mr. Sturgess—he said, "Get the money back"—I did not talk to other persons in the prison about bringing this action—there were no papers left at our house about that action of Mr. Sturgess, nothing of the kind—I never saw this paper before to my recollection—(
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I see how it is addressed; we lived there—I do not know anything about this paper—I never saw any more papers—I talked with the prisoner about employing a counsel—a counsel had been employed over and over again—in this particular action the prisoner said they had got big men against us, and we must have a big man—he said they had got Sir Fitzroy Kelly against us, and he must have Sir Frederick Thesiger—the record was withdrawn—I do not know what a nonsuit is—I do not know that there was a nonsuit in this case—we never owed a penny—there was another action after this against my brother, but that has nothing at all to do with it—there was an action brought against him by Sturgess to make him pay all the rents he had paid us, and to get back the deeds—he charged my husband with fraudulently making an assignment—the action went into Court—Mr. Atkinson was not our attorney—we never gave him any instructions whatever—there was a verdict against my brother for 60
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the prisoner consented to a verdict—Mr. Yeovill and Mr. Lush were the counsel engaged—there were some witnesses, and they wanted to get into the witness-box—I do not know whether Mr. Lush would</p>
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<p>not allow them—Mr. Yeovill and Mr. Lush contented to a Verdict—I did not charge the prisoner with having sold us on that occasion to Harrison and Walker—I never said to anybody that he had sold us—it was through him that the verdict was found—I did not say he had sold us—I had good reason to believe it—we employed the prisoner from March, 1851, till last Nov., and then he said he was not able to obtain his certificate on account of not having settled my business—I found last Nov. that he was not an attorney—I had not the slightest idea of it before—I know Mr. Huggett; I met him at Worship street—he never said anything to me about the prisoner not being an attorney—he said nothing about it—he said he was a most clever man—he did not say he was not an attorney—he said there were many lawyers who could not do what he could—he said there were not many lawyers that knew the points of law as he did—my husband asked the prisoner whether his name was on the roll—I suppose that means having a certificate—the prisoner said he was an attorney, and I asked him myself—I was examined at Worship-Street, and told the whole truth, every word—I told the Magistrate that I repeatedly asked the prisoner whether he was an attorney—I did not ask him that every time—I told the Magistrate every word that I have told here to-day—the prisoner said he was an attorney, and his rather an attorney before him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you always passed in your own name of Perkins?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> When I attended to my brother's business I used his name—I never introduced my husband as my brother—I never did to Mr. Barton—I never introduced him as Mr. Foster—I never said I was Mrs. Foster, nor that I Was the wife of Foster.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. B. THOMPSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> At the time of this assignment you had no debts?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; the first action was against my husband for defamation—we had so debts then, and the cause of my husband being in this trouble was those costs—they were to pay their costs, and did not pay ours—the amount was 72
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—my husband became insolvent in March—while the prisoner was out on his own recognizances he came and offered me 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to forego this prosecution.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-40" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL PERKINS</persName> </hi>. I was in prison for a debt of 72
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—while I was there the prisoner came and offered to assist me—my wife paid him several sums of money, at different times, on the faith that he Was an attorney—he said to me that he was an attorney—I had before seen a man of the name of Sorrell that I bad paid money to, and lost it—it was entirely on the faith of the prisoner being an attorney that I advanced him sums of money—the money was paid by my wife, in my presence—it was money we borrowed, and money I worked for, and I pawned our things, and got it in the best manner we could—the first time I saw the prisoner he said I was in a bad state, and I was to tell him the truth, and perhaps he might do some food for me—I said, "What are you?"—he said, "An attorney"—I said, "I have been taken in once before"—he said, "I am an attorney; I can get you out by getting a writ of error; if you will give me half a crown I will go and see what is against you"—I gave it him—he went, and came back, add said, "I can get you out by a writ of error, but it will have a large seal, and cost a good bit of money"—I said, "What?"—he said "8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 9
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>."—my mistress whispered to me, "Be careful what you are doing," and she trod on my toe, and she said to him, "Are you an attorney?"—he said, "Yes," and we advanced the money—I asked him, "Be you on the roll?"—he said, "Yea"—I said, "Have you ever been here?"—he said, "Yes, I was here a little while"—I was present when 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. was offered by the prisoner to settle this prosecution—he offered 100
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to settle it, and said be would pay by instalments.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You have had a great deal of law?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I have had too much—I was in the Queen's Bench at this time; I was in the back part, the pauper part; I was a pauper; I had not got 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the world—I had paid it all away—I swore I was not worth 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the world—I had no property worth 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. then—I had no savings then; I swear that—I had assigned the house to my brother three months before—I assigned it because the lawyers would take away my property—I was arrested for 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I assigned this to avoid the costs, because the lawyers put the costs on me—I was detained in prison for the costs—I assigned the house to avoid paying these costs, because I did not owe them—my brother received the rent of that house—a part of the rents came to me—I did receive some for some time—I did not collect the rents; my brother did—I did not have them for some time afterwards—I swore that I was not worth 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; I had then assigned the house away—the house was my own all the time—it was worth 470
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> And you took your oath that you were not worth 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and you were the owner of that house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, my brother was the owner, if I assigned it to him—I had not got a farthing at that time—my brother paid me nothing for the house; it was assigned to him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was your motive, in assigning that to your brother-in-law, to get it out of the way of being answerable for your debts?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not owe them—it was put upon me to pay, but I did not answer it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Your object was to get rid of the creditors, whether real or assumed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you mean to tell this Jury that that house was not substantially your house at the time you went in prison?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, because I had assigned it away—I did not receive anything for that assignment—I never went through the Insolvent Court—it was agreed the rents were to be paid to me—I do not know whether the rents were coming to me all the time or not—I do not know whether I was entitled to the rents at the time I went in prison—I do not know whether it is my house now—they seem to say it is not.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You assigned the house to your brother, because some persons were claiming debts of you that you did not owe?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I had not got 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the world; I had no savings—what savings I had I paid the lawyers—what I had I pawned prior to going to prison.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When did you go to the Insolvent Court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not know—I cannot say the date—I cannot say about the date—I did not put it down; I am no scholar at all—I was there two or three times—the first time I was remanded—I was remanded the second time for two or three days—it was for my brother to bring a book, or something—I cannot remember the last date I was brought up; I did not keep an account of the date—I was remanded the last time for four months—the lawyer made it up in order to go in on ray property, if I had any—the Commissioner said I was falsely imprisoned, and he ordered me to go out of the box—I was not remanded because the Commissioner said I was falsely imprisoned—I was sworn at the Insolvent Debtors' Court—my brother-in-law was not sworn there when I went to be examined—I was examined, and I was sworn.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did Mr. Commissioner Law believe what you said?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He will not believe nothing at all—I was examined about this assignment of my pro
<lb/>perty—my brother-in-law was examined about the assignment—we were never asked the question whose property it was, because there were persons come there who would swear to anything—they swore the house was mine, and then they swore it was not—they swore backwards and forwards, and</p>
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<p>you want to bring them again to swear again now—they did not ask me whose the house was—I was remanded for four months.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prisoner recommend you to do anything at that time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not know the prisoner till some time after that—it was not directly after I was remanded that the prisoner came to me—it might be a fortnight or three weeks afterwards—I am quite certain I did not know the prisoner at that time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> If any person comes here and swears it was before the remand, would that person tell the truth?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I was remanded so many times—when I was remanded for four months I did not know the prisoner—when I first became acquainted with the prisoner it was several weeks after—he came and said that he recommended himself to me—I cannot say to a day or two when it was—I was not remanded for four months the first time; I think it was only two days—I was brought up again, and it was adjourned for four months—I believe it was after the second time that I became acquainted with the prisoner—I paid my debts in Court, twenty shillings in the pound—I did not pay; my friends did for me—I did not see the money at all; it was paid by my wife and the prisoner—I am answerable for it—I think my acquaintance with the prisoner occurred subsequently to the second adjournment, but I do not recollect the day—I had been put back for four months, and a week afterwards the prisoner came and recommended himself to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> After you came out you brought this action against Mr. Sturgess?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I wanted the money back—I saw several papers in the second action—some papers were left at my house—I did not particularly see them—I cannot read them—I believe there was an action brought against Mr. Foster after that of mine—of course it was against my brother—they seemed to follow the house—whether it was an action against me or the house I cannot tell—the action was brought against my brother-in-law—I did not see the papers myself—I was in Court when that action came on for trial—Mr. Atkinson never had any instruction from me, nor yet from my brother-in-law—he did not know him—I did not see Mr. Atkinson there the first day—on the second day he came to me and said, "Who is Foster?" I said "I don't know"—I saw Atkinson the second day; he was not acting as attorney—I do not know who were the counsel in that action—I was not called before any counsel—I had no conversation with Mr. Lush.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-41" type="given" value="BYERLY"/>MR. BYERLY THOMPSON</persName> </hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was not the first an action for defamation against you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—each party was to pay their own costs, and I was to pay 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. damages—the costs were not to exceed 8
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., but I do not know what the costs were adjudged at—they were trying to make me pay the costs of both parties; that Is what I mean by saying the debt was not mine—that was the reason why I went to prison, because I did not choose to pay a debt that was not my own—at the time this house was assigned to Foster, I did it in order that those who I thought were unjust creditors might not get it—I had no intention then of insolvency—the petition in the Insolvent Debtors' Court was filed against my own wishes—I did not wish to become an insolvent—at the time I assigned this house over to my brother, I believed that it had become absolutely his property—I could not myself have sold it—it has never been re-assigned to me—I have never tried to sell it—I do not suppose I could if I were to try—at the time I swore I was not worth. 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in the world, I had not received a farthing of the rents from that house after it had been assigned—at the time I assigned it I had no debts of my, own—all my debts were these lawyers' bills, this 72
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; in fact, there was no fraudulent making away of property.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you not afterwards receive rents?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes—I have not been trying to sell the house; my brother-in-law has—no one ever told me that the prisoner was not an attorney—they always told me he was, and he told me so himself over and over again.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-42" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-42" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-42" type="surname" value="BOWER"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM GEORGE"/>WILLIAM GEORGE BOWER</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Sir Frederick Thesiger. I never received a fee of three guineas from the prisoner—I have seen the prisoner about, and spoken to him—he has never paid me a fee at any time—a fee may be left for me—Sir Frederick Thesiger never held a brief from the prisoner.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prisoner ever ask you about taking a brief?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He certainly did bring some papers, and I would not take a fee of three guineas.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-43" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-43" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-43" type="surname" value="HARRISON"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-43" type="given" value="PETER"/>PETER HARRISON</persName> </hi>. I have not been called to the bar—I could not give a brief to Sir Frederick Thesiger—the prisoner called on me about Feb. last, and brought some papers—he asked me whether this had been paid—the case is marked with my name, and I presume the fee has been paid, one guinea—I cannot say that he gave it me, whether my clerk received it, or whether one of my pupils—this fee was about June, 1851—I did not receive any fee in May, 1852.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> There have been papers in your chambers?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not know how these papers came to my chambers, but they were in my chambers by having my mark on them—I have no entry in my book of them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. B. THOMPSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is this a draft of a declaration?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it is the handwriting of one of my pupils—the instructions contain no name—we thought it was a mistake.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-44" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-44" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-44" type="surname" value="VANN"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-44" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN VANN</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Edward Vann. I have searched the roll of attorneys from 1847 to this year—I did not find the name of the prisoner there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you look to those who have been admitted since 1847?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, it was the admitted roll I searched.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-45" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-45" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-45" type="surname" value="HALL"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-45" type="given" value="JOHN THOMAS"/>JOHN THOMAS HALL</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to the Law Incorporated Society. We keep a register of all certificated attorneys, and all those who are
<hi rend="italic">bond fide</hi> in practice as attorneys—it is made out from a declaration made by any solicitor who wishes to commence practice—it is a copy of his declaration—it must necessarily contain the names of all the solicitors who are entitled to practice—there is an annual roll and a continued roll—I have searched both, and do not find the name of the prisoner there—I am perfectly satisfied he could not have been an attorney in practice—this will not inform me whether at any time he had been admitted as an attorney—he is not entitled to practice without a certificate, and he must necessarily, previous to obtaining a a certificate, lodge a declaration, and he is not on the roll.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> He might be an attorney, but not certificated?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JOHN VANN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Does the roll you searched contain the attorneys who were attorneys previous to that roll being made up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—supposing a man were an attorney in 1850, and ceased to be one in 1852, he would not appear in 1852.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> A person admitted in 1846 would not appear in 1847?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No—when an attorney is admitted first his name is entered—I am able to swear the prisoner was not an attorney in 1851—supposing an attorney were admitted twenty years before, and he had not taken his certificate in 1850, his name would not appear.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-46" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-46" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-46" type="surname" value="HALL"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-46" type="given" value="JOHN THOMAS"/>JOHN THOMAS HALL</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I do not keep a book of all the attorneys who have been admitted since the society was established, but since</p>
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<p>1843 I do—it is a copy of the Queen's Bench roll and the Exchequer, and other Courts—we have it under the 6th and 7th of Victoria—all attorneys are obliged to come to us, and we compare their declaration with this book previous to their obtaining their certificates—in consequence of that I am able to say that the prisoner is not on the rolls of those Courts.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Will searching the Queen's Bench roll only, show all the attorneys in the various Courts?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he might be an attorney of the Exchequer, or other Courts—he may be on their rolls—an attorney may not go to Somerset House, and pay the certificate duty, without coming to us—it is a violation of the practice if they take the money there—I believe it has been done.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-47" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-47" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-47" type="surname" value="FOAY"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-47" type="given" value="CORNELIUS"/>CORNELIUS FOAY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, H</hi> 7). On 16th Feb. I went to the prisoner's lodging, No. 2, Gough-square—I told him I came to take him into custody for obtaining various sums of money from Mrs. Perkins, and representing himself an attorney—I said, "Are you an attorney?"—he replied, "I am not"—he said, "I have been a friend to Mrs. Perkins, and now I am about getting an appointment, they want to rain me"—I took him into custody, and he was placed at the bar in the Magistrate's Court—there was an adjournment for a short time—during that time the prisoner was let out on his own recognizances—he did not return—he was afterwards taken on a warrant—I arrested him the second time—he then said he thought it was all settled; that he had written to Mrs. Perkins, wishing to know what money she wanted.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> On 18th Feb. he was first taken?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, and remanded on his own recognizances till the 25th—he then appeared, and absconded an hour afterwards—he said afterwards that he ran away for fear of an arrest by a Sheriff's officer.</p>
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner's statement before the Magistrate was here read as follows</hi>:—"I deny that when I was first introduced to the prosecutor and ins wife that I ever said I was an attorney, nor did the gentleman who introduced me state that I was an attorney; the prosecutor's wife was not present when I went into the prosecutor's room, but came in twenty minutes."</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-48" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-48" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-48" type="surname" value="HUGGETT"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-48" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH HUGGETT</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler, in Ship-yard, Temple-bar. I have known the prosecutor about two years and a half, and known the prisoner close upon three years—I have had a good deal of conversation with the prosecutor and his wife about the prisoner within the last two years—I told them he was not an attorney—we were chatting in the Temple about eighteen months ago, when I told them that—they said they were aware he was not an attorney—I remember meeting them at Worship-street Police-court—they were at my house after the warrant was got for the prisoner's apprehension, and they said if Atkinson would get his bill of costs they would withdraw the prosecution, and say no more about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. THOMPSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is your house a house the prisoner frequented?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, the same as you might; I have been there better than two years—I was well aware the prisoner was not an attorney—there have been persons at my house to ask his advice, persons that I have introduced: not to ask his advice as an attorney, but about county courts and little jobs elsewhere—I told Perkins he was not an attorney, and they admitted that they knew he was not an attorney eighteen months ago—that was in the passage in Devereux-court, in the Temple—the conversation was about a little matter that the prisoner had in hand for me, getting a little bill discounted—I have had the misfortune to be in the Queen's Bench—I had not</p>
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<p>seen the prisoner while I was there—I did not see Perkins while I was there—I did not send the prisoner to Perkins—I first knew Perkins by his coming to ray house close on two years ago—I heard that he was in prison—I did not know he was in prison at the time the prisoner first went to him—I was with the person who suggested to the prisoner that he would find Perkins there, and he would employ him—this offer about the money took place in my house, sitting at my bar.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you mean by the prisoner frequenting your house that he drank so much?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, he did not; he was a sober man.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-49" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-49" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-49" type="surname" value="COLWILL"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-49" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES COLWILL</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to the Governor of the Queen's Bench Prison. I remember the prosecutor being a prisoner there—he was on the county or pauper side—he swore he was not worth 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in all the world, and had no means of subsistence without the provisions afforded under the Act.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. B. THOMPSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the Act read over to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it is invariably read over, and the prosecutor put his mark to it—I know the last witness—he was in the Queen's Bench—I have no means at this moment of knowing whether he was there at the time the prosecutor was, but it was about the same time—Huggett was in the habit of coming often to the parlour—I have seen him there, but not very often—I am not aware that the prisoner was in the habit of coming there for the purpose of soliciting practice—I knew him as an agent for persons there—it would be known in the prison that he was acting in that capacity—I do not know that it was a matter of general reputation that he was a law agent—he came as a visitor.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-50" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-50" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-50" type="surname" value="BURTON"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-50" type="given" value="ROBERT CALNE"/>ROBERT CALNE BURTON</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor. I know the prosecutor's wife—I became acquainted with them with reference to a mortgage—I understood she was the wife of Foster—Foster has accompanied her to my office; her husband did not till lately—I watched the case in the action of Sturgess against Foster—I was not the attorney in the case.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-51" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-51" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-51" type="surname" value="SHIRWILL"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-51" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS SHIRWILL</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Lush. I have some remembrance of the prisoner bringing a brief to our chambers about June, 1851—I declined taking it—I know the prisoner; he has come to our chambers as clerk to a solicitor.</p>
<hi rend="italic">William Pulsford, a solicitor, and George Pritchard, an attorney, gave the prisoner a good character.</hi>)</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. B. THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">called</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-52" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-52" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-52" type="surname" value="MACBETH"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-52" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOHN"/>WILLIAM JOHN MACBETH</persName> </hi>. I am a solicitor and attorney. I prosecuted the prisoner for an offence similar to this, and he was acquitted on a technical point—I have known him for several years, since 1849—he has been living by representing himself as an attorney, and robbing and plundering the world as much as he could—I have had several cases of this kind brought to me of tavern keepers and other persons—this is a check he passed on me where he had no effects, and he obtained 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from me—I was not subpÅ“naed here; I came from curiosity to see whether he would get off this time.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DOYLE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Can you state any particular case of those you speak of?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; one was M'Cormack—he there represented himself as an attorney, and he was employed to collect moneys for him; and there was a poor woman that he was the means of turning out of house and home.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-53" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-53" type="given" value="JOHN BAPTISTE"/>JOHN BAPTISTE SMITH</persName> </hi>. I am a barrister. In the course of last year the prisoner took chambers "belonging to me, through a friend of mine who had the letting of them when I was in the country—when I returned to town in consequence of something I heard, I asked the prisoner if he was what he represented, a parliamentary agent; he said, "Yes, my name appears on the</p>
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<p>roll at Westminster, a parliamentary agent"—several persons came to me, representing frauds he bad committed on them, and under a clause in the agreement I ejected him—I have been a loser of 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. by him.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-771-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 39.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">IKEY SMITH</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the prosecution, offered no evidence.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, July</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHAPMAN MARSHALL</hi>, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HOOPER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUNTER</hi>; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>, and Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">LAWRENCE</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., the property of
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<interp inst="t18530704-774-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 25.—
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., the property of
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530704-775-offence-1 t18530704-name-61"/>Robert Bell</persName> and others, his masters, to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-775-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-775-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>,
<hi rend="italic">and received a good character.</hi> Aged 31.
<hi rend="italic">Recommended to mercy.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-775-18530704 t18530704-775-punishment-11"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def2-776-18530704" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">EDWARD GREEN</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18530704-776-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, stealing 1 handkerchief, value 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., the property of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530704-776-offence-1 t18530704-name-64"/>Andrea Soick</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-65" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS TOWNSEND</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>, 54). On 1st July I was with Dunnaway on Tower-hill, in plain clothes—I saw the prisoners, and followed them, having known them previously—they were following the prosecutor, and were both close together; I had seen them together ten minutes before that—Pearce put his hand in the prosecutor's pocket and took out a handkerchief, which he put into his pocket—Green was by his side, looking towards the prosecutor, and must have seen him do it—Pearce then went to a fruit stall, and Green went on and followed the gentleman—I laid hold of Pearce, and asked him to give me the handkerchief; he shuffled away and said, "What handkerchief"—I threw him down and took it from his pocket.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-66" type="witnessName">
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<hi rend="italic">policeman</hi>), I was with Townsend, and saw the prisoners together—Green put his right hand in the gentleman's left hand coat pocket; and then Pearce put his hand into the same pocket and drew out a handkerchief—I said to Townsend, "He has got it," and went and spoke to the prosecutor—I afterwards took Green, and told him I wanted him for being concerned with another one in picking a gentleman's pocket—he said, "You are mistaken," and looking over his shoulder at Pearce, who had been taken, said, "I do not know him"—I had been watching them for an hour.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-67" type="given" value="ANDREA"/>ANDREA SOICK</persName> </hi>. I belong to a ship. This is my handkerchief (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I lost it from my pocket.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Pearce's Defence.</hi> I saw the handkerchief lying on the ground, picked it up, put it in my pocket, and the police laid hold of me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Green's Defence.</hi> A gentleman tapped me on the shoulder and said I had stolen his handkerchief: I said he was mistaken; I knew nothing of it: if I had been guilty, I should not have walked by the gentleman's side afterwards as I did; the other prisoner is a stranger to me.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PEARCE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-776-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-776-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.† Aged 22.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GREEN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-776-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-776-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.† Aged 26.
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-776-18530704 t18530704-776-punishment-12"/>Confined Six Months</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530704-777-offence-1 t18530704-name-69"/>Joshua Evans</persName>, Esquire, a Commissioner of the Court of Bankruptcy.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BYERLY THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">THURSTON</hi>. I am clerk to Commissioner Fane of the Bankruptcy Court. I produce the proceedings in Bankruptcy of Joseph and John Legge—I have the adjudication here—(
<hi rend="italic">this was dated 2nd April</hi>, 1853,
<hi rend="italic">and declared Joseph and John Legge, upholsterers and cabinet makers, to be bankrupts, within the meaning of the Act. Signed, "Edward Goulbourn, Commissioner.</hi>") I also produce the declaration made by the defendant on 4th April (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "I Joseph Legge, being declared a bankrupt, do solemnly promise and declare that I will make true answer to all such questions as may be proposed to me respecting all the property of me the said defendant, and all dealings and transactions relating thereto; and that I will make a full and true disclosure of all that has been done to the best of my knowledge, information, and belief")—I was present on 4th April before Mr. Commissioner Evans, at some part of the defendant's examination, but not the whole time—his signature is to each page of it—I did not see him sign it, but I know his writing—(
<hi rend="italic">part of the defendant's examination was then read as follows</hi>: "Mr. Marshall is the landlord of No. 4, York-terrace aforesaid. He is no relation of mine. I have not taken any portion of that house. About two month's since I applied to Mr. Marshall for an advance of money. Mr. Marshall is not in trade, he is a speculator in anything and everything. I have known Mr. Marshall about two or three years, I imagine he was always a speculator and never in business. I think it was about two month's since Mr. Marshall agreed to let me have what money I required upon my stock in trade, as also of my partner. It was upon a portion of my stock about a month ago. Mr. Marshall gave me 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in money, all gold, to the best of my belief, as a loan on personal security. I gave him no security whatever, nor did my partner to my knowledge; but I promised to do so in case any further sum was advanced. He did make to myself and partner one advance of 68
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., about a fortnight since. It was paid partly in notes and partly in gold. I cannot positively state whether any one was present")—that examination is sealed with the seal of the Court—on 5th April, the defendant was examined before Commissioner Fane, as follows: "Have you anything further to add to your examination of yesterday as to your books? All memorandums or books that I have, to my knowledge, are at Southampton.—Where at Southampton? They are with Mr. Marshall, whose address I do not know, with the exception of a few memorandums, which the officer who took me has in his possession.—Where did you see those books? At Southampton, in the house in which I was arrested: I wish to state that all memorandums were there when I left, relating to my transactions—Where were the books, were they in a desk? In a desk.—Describe those books?</p>
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<p>They were chiefly memorandums and invoices, bankers' books, checks, and other memorandums; I cannot remember anything else at present.—Were those books and papers the only books you kept in your business? They were, to the best of my belief.—Did you keep a ledger? There was a ledger, but there was no entry in it.—As the property you speak of was deposited with Mr. Marshall for the benefit of your creditors, was Mr. Marshall selected to receive that property and deposit by your creditors, or any of them? He was not.—By whom was he chosen? He was chosen by myself and brother.—How came you and your brother, or you alone, to choose him? For the security of the property until we could make arrangements.—I ask you, why you selected Marshall more than any body else? Because we had known him.—How long had you known him? Two or three years. As what? As a cabinet maker, at Canterbury.—Where is he now? At Southampton. "On 9th April, 1853, the defendant was again examined as follows: "Do you adhere to the statement you made on your first examination? No.—In what respect do you wish to depart from that? That Marshall is a relation of mine—he is my father; that he has all the property I have or had deposited with him at Southampton, at No. 4, York-terrace, New Town, Southampton, That is the only thing that I can remember in my examinations that I can correct; I wish to correct others, but I cannot remember them.—Who took the house at Southampton? Marshall Legge, the person I have spoken of before as Mr. Marshall.—Was Marshall Legge, your father, ever in business?Yes—Where are the account books relating to your business? The memorandums and papers were at Southampton, in York-place, when I left; they were in a desk, and all the books I had, except a pocket book and banker's book.—Where is the 80
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. you received from Gingell? 70
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. deposited with Marshall Legge, my father, 7
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. was paid to Mr. Fisher, my former landlord, for rent, and the rest was spent in going to Southampton, and other little expenses.—What were your intentions when you went to Southampton? To rest for a short time, and to make arrangements for the benefit of my creditors.—By the Commissioner—I am not satisfied with that last answer, because it is impossible to believe you went to Southampton, and put your goods into the hands of your father, assuming a false name, with any intention to benefit your creditors; I therefore again call upon you to state what your real intention was? The sole reason I had in placing the goods there, or one of the motives, was to preserve them for the benefit of my creditors at a future time as soon as I recovered myself, as I was very ill at the time: I intended to see them to make them an offer, and to throw myself upon their mercy I had this motive also, which was to prevent one or two creditors coming in and sweeping off what there was, and thus deprive the whole of the remainder of the benefit of them, that was my motive; I also wished to prevent an execution coming in, and I had been threatened by the holder of a 50
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill; signed, Joseph Legge. "On that occasion the defendant was re-committed to the Queen's prison, the answers not being satisfactory.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> They were not satisfactory to Mr. Commissioner Fane, who had him sent to gaol?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Sent to the Queen's prison; that was on 5th April-his wife was not committed too by Mr. Commissioner Fane—I was present at the original examination before Commissioner Evans—the bankrupt was cross-examined by the adverse solicitor, Mr. Payne—I did not hear Mr. Commissioner Evans say that the examination was being conducted in a very unfair way, or that advantage was being taken of his position—I was not present at the examination before Commissioner Evans, except a very short time—I believe Mr. Commissioner Evans did</p>
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<p>desire Mr. Payne to put his questions in another form—the fiat came on, as a matter of course, before Mr. Commissioner Evans, who was the sitting Commissioner; if Mr. Commissioner Fane had been there, it would have been taken before him—the commission was appointed for Mr. Commissioner Goulburn—Mr. Payne was present on the second occasion, and the examination was conducted by him—I was present on the second occasion the whole time, but am not aware, without reading the book, that the bankrupt desired to add something to his evidence; most certainly not, in my presence—I believe I was present at the conclusion—I do not recollect Mr. Commissioner Fane taking his lunch, and having it put on the mantelpiece; he does not take it above once a month—I think I have a recollection of his lunch being brought in—I have an indistinct recollection of something of the kind, of tome sandwiches being brought in the middle of the examination—the Commissioner got up, and went on eating his sandwiches during the examination—I do not think the lunch terminated the examination—on the third examination I believe Mr. Linklater, the solicitor, was present for the bankrupt—I do not recollect that Mr. Linklater pressed Mr. Commissioner Fane to hear further statements by the bankrupt, and that he refused, neither is it his practice—I do not recollect that it happened on this occasion; but if Mr. Linklater was putting improper questions, I dare say he would not hear any more—he may have refused to hear him, but I have no recollection of it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> On the first examination was Mr. Commissioner Evans presiding in open Court?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He was—I did not see any lunch brought to him—I heard the bankrupt asked questions about his father by Commissioner Evans—I heard him say before Commissioner Fane that he had known Mr. Marshall two or three years—the questions were put to him by the solicitor to the petition, and they were then reduced to writing, as they appear here; it was then read over to him—I believe Mr. Fane was taking his lunch at the time it was read over to him—I saw the defendant affix his signature after it had been read—both when he was being examined, and afterwards while he was putting his signature, Mr. Commissioner Fane cautioned him as to what be had been saying—I heard him do so two or three times—I believe the bankrupt was attended, on the second examination, by Mr. Linklater, or Mr. Wallinger, the attorneys—I am not quite sure, but I think Mr. Wallinger appeared; he acted as the defendant's attorney while he was giving these answers before Mr. Commissioner Fane—I have no recollection of Mr. Commissioner Fane refusing to hear more, and I was present almost the whole time—in the course of signing the depositions on the second occasion, and while Mr. Fane was cautioning him about his answers, the bankrupt had ample opportunity of making any statement he wished to Mr. Fane—he was brought up at his own request on the third occasion.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-70" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT JOHNSON</persName> </hi>. I am usher to Mr. Commissioner Evans Here are my initials to this declaration, which has been signed by Joseph Legge—I did not see it signed—I asked him whether it was his signature—he said, "Yes"—I asked him if he had read it—he said, "No," it had been read over to him, and that he quite understood it—I explained to him that it had the same effect as an oath, and after that he was examined before the Commissioner—I was present all the time, and have no doubt I saw him sign the depositions; they were either read over to him or he read them himself—I put my initials to the declaration; it was taken in the ordinary course.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-71" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SPITTLE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City policeman</hi>). On 2nd April I received directions to apprehend Joseph and John Legge, and the warrant of the Commissioner of Bankruptcy, which is on the proceedings, was placed in my hands—Mr.</p>
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<p>Zuccani, one of the creditors, went with me to No. 4, York-terrace, New Town, Southampton—we searched the greater part of the house for the prisoner and his brother—after immense difficulty, caused by a man who called himself Marshall, who has since told me his name is Legge: and the prisoner's wife—on my return from the coal cellar they attempted to keep me from getting into the house again; but with the assistance of Mr. Zuccani I got in again, and proceeded up stairs, when Marshall got two upholsterer's hammers, and the prisoner's wife a very large stick—I kept them at bay, and sent Zuccani up stairs—we eventually captured the defendant, who came from the upper part of the house—I did not see John Legge, the other bankrupt, there—I took possession of the furniture that was there—the house was full of cabinet and upholstery work, some finished and some not—I should say it would weigh full four tons, and there was more furniture at No. 5, as No. 4 would not hold the whole—on the following day, Monday, 4th April, I took the defendant up to London—I was present at his examination, at the Bankruptcy Court, on 8th April, I think it was—I then saw the man who had represented himself to be Marshall—on 20th April I again saw him at Guildhall, and having been told something, I said to him in the defendant's presence, "Your son has given you some money, what is it?"—the defendant heard it, and said, "I have not given him any"—I said, "You have"——Marshall then said that Mr. Wontner, his attorney, had given him some—since that I have twice seen the defendant and Samuel Marshall Legge together, at Guildhall police court—I have 'not heard them say anything about their relationship, but have always heard them address each other as father and son; I cannot give the exact words—I heard them conversing together for half an hour, and they appeared to understand each other perfectly well as father and son, but I cannot recollect any of the words that passed between them; they identified each other in a general way—I was not present in the Court of Bankruptcy on 9th April, when the defendant was examined, and said Marshall was his father.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You took him into custody on Sunday?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, about 2 o'clock in the day—I took him to London next day—he was examined, was allowed to go at large, and surrendered next morning—I took his wife into custody; that was for conspiracy—I did so because Mr. Nicholson, one of the creditors, was ready to charge her, and I knew that he was acting under the directions of two solicitors, who I thought knew better than me—I took her in London, in Queen-street, Cheapside—I also took Samuel Marshall Legge for conspiracy—the father, the son, and the son's wife were all charged—there were four examinations—the wife was not discharged immediately; she was remanded by Mr. Alderman Cubitt, and was ultimately discharged—the defendant had been examined before Mr. Commissioner Fane and Commissioner Evans before he was taken up for conspiracy—I think the case of conspiracy was dismissed on 14th May—as far as this particular charge goes we have not been before a Magistrate at all.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know that four different Aldermen heard the charge of conspiracy?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I was out of town—I was present at four examinations, and went before two Aldermen, Alderman Cubitt and Alderman Farebrother—I believe the case was remanded four times.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT JOHNSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who took down the examination of the bankrupt?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think it was the clerk of Mr. Payne, the attorney for the commission—that is the usual practice—it was conducted in the ordinary way—it is the practice for the clerk to the solicitor for the petitioning creditor, to take down the examination verbatim.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-72" type="given" value="EMILIO"/>EMILIO ZUCCANI</persName> </hi>. I am a creditor of Joseph and John
<hi rend="italic">Legge, to</hi> the amount of 252
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. I accompanied Spittle to Southampton to execute the warrant—I was the petitioning creditor—I heard that the parties had subsequently taken—I acquainted Mr. Tipling, another creditor, and we acted together—when we got to Southampton I saw a person representing himself as Mr. Marshall—I have been in Court, and heard Spittle examined—the interruption he speaks of is correct—we had great difficulty in apprehending the defendant—I have since seen the man calling himself Marshall, before the Magistrate, but have heard no conversation between him and the defendant in reference to their relationship—on one occasion, when the examination was over, they retired into a little back office, and some conversation took place between the father and the son, and some inquiry was made about some money passing, and Spittle insisted on searching, and said that some money had passed from the son to the father—the son said he had not passed any money—the goods seized at Southampton realized 500
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—the greater part of them were mine.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-73" type="given" value="JOHN THOMAS"/>JOHN THOMAS TREHERN</persName> </hi>. I am managing clerk to Mr. Payne, one of the solicitors to the bankruptcy. I was present on the 4th, 6th, and 9th April at the Bankruptcy Court, when the defendant was examined—I took down what he stated, accurately and verbatim, I believe—on the second occasion Mr. Wallinger, an attorney, was present for the defendant—he did not put questions to him—Mr. Linklater was the attorney acting for him on the third occasion—he is a gentleman of great practice in the Court of Bankruptcy—after the examinations were taken down, they were read over to the bankrupt before he signed them'—I was present when he made the declaration—on the first occasion he was rather excited, having been brought up from Southampton, but on the other occasions he was perfectly calm—I was present before the Magistrate when a charge of conspiracy was made against the father, the son, and the wife, by Mr. Nicholson, as the largest creditor, on behalf of himself and all the others—there were five examinations, I think; the two first were before Mr. Alderman Cubitt, the third before Mr. Alderman Copeland, the fourth before Sir Peter Laurie, and the fifth before Mr. Alderman Farebrother—it was the act of Alderman Farebrother to discharge them—he had not heard the whole of the evidence.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Alderman Farebrother ultimately discharged the case, but was not Alderman Copeland on the bench at the time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Part of the time he was—the last examination took seven or eight hours, and each examination took a long time—I do not think all the examinations were read over by Mr. Wood, the clerk, but they were explained by him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you see the father and son together at all?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Frequently; I was within hearing when they were conversing together, but cannot say what passed between them—I did not hear them call one another son and father—there is a warrant granted against the father, but they have not been able to get him to my knowledge.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you not go down and smoke a pipe with this man?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; my father knows I smoke pipes—I am twenty-three years old—I did not tell the defendant that the whole of the conversation between us should be confidential—I do not remember that anything of the kind passed; I will not swear it—i will tell you what was said: when I went away I said, "You need not mention that I smoked a pipe here with yon;" that was the confidential part of it, and he promised he would not—I then came home, and told the conversation he bad with me.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">JURY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">stated that they found that the person calling himself Marshall was the father of the defendant, and that there was no evidence of the defendant having taken the house in York-terrace.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>
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<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">upon the authority of a recent decision of Lord Denman, directed a verdict to be entered of Guilty on the first Count, on the first and third assignments of perjury, and Not Guilty on the second and fourth assignments.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">then moved in arrest of judgment; first, that in the indictment the declaration, was averred to be made in pursuance of an Act entitled</hi>"
<hi rend="italic">An act to amend and consolidate the laws relating to Bankruptcy," whereas no such Act existed; and therefore there could be no jurisdiction to administer the declaration, the real title of the Act being</hi> "
<hi rend="italic">An Act to amend and consolidate the laws relating to Bankrupts</hi>;"
<hi rend="italic">and that as the words in question supported a material allegation, they were not matter of form, but matter of substance, and therefore could not be amended by the Court; secondly, that the indictment averred</hi> "
<hi rend="italic">that it became material to inquire what was the nature of the said Joseph Legge's dealings with one Mr. Marshall," but making no mention of Mr. Marshall Legge, and that the Jury had in reality found by their verdict that there was such a person as Mr. Marshall, although the allegation stated that there was no such person; and thirdly, that there was, in point of fact, no allegation of materiality whatever in the indictment.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BYERLY THOMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">contended that under the</hi> 254
<hi rend="italic">th section of the Act, it was sufficient to support the indictment, that false evidence was proved to be given before the Commissioner, and that the</hi> 93
<hi rend="italic">rd section recognized the word</hi> "
<hi rend="italic">bankruptcy.</hi>"</p>
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<hi rend="italic">The</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">took time to consider its decision, and on a subsequent day, July</hi> 7
<hi rend="italic">th, stated that after having consulted Mr. Baron Parke, it had come to the decision that judgment must be arrested, and that the prisoner must be sent back to the Queen's Bench prison.</hi> </rs> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, D</hi> 179). I was called, and found the pri
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and a toothpick.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I had called at the house before to know if there were any bottles to sell, and a servant told me to call on 24th June; I called, and nobody was there; I saw the door open, and sat down on the sofa; the lady came and found me there, and thought I had robbed the place; she must have mislaid the spoons</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-80" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MILLERMAN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, B</hi> 98). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>—"
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Millard, convicted June</hi>, 1852,
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.*† Aged 44.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, July</hi> 5
<hi rend="italic">th</hi> 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUNTER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MOON</hi>; and Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">COMMON</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SERJEANT</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Common Serjeant and the Sixth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, K</hi> 214). On Saturday, 28th May, the prisoner was given into my custody by the last witness, and he handed me this crown—the prisoner gave his address No. 20, St. John-street, Brick-lane—I made every inquiry—there is a St. John-street, but I could hear nothing of the prisoner.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I had the misfortune to take them; the direction I gave was where my uncle lives, the only friend I have, at No. 20, St. John-street, Brick-lane.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-88" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM MALCOLM</persName> </hi>. I went to two No. 20's; no one knew him at either of them.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-90" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS PUZEY</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Ben Jonson, in Clerkenwell. On Monday, 6th June, the prisoner came, and I served him with half a pint of porter—he paid me with a shilling, I gave him ll 1/4
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<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 203). I produce this shilling and the broken half crown, which I got from the last witness—I took the prisoner, and told him he was charged with passing the bad half crown—I asked him his address, he said he had no address.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Did I not tell you I was at work at the Exhibition?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS PORTER</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-95" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MORRIS</persName> </hi>. I keep the Rum Puncheon in Old-street, St. Luke's. On Wednesday, 15th June, I was in the bar serving about 9 o'clock at night—the prisoner came a little after 9 o'clock—I served him with half a pint of 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. ale—he gave me a shilling, and I gave him change—I placed the shilling on some 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. pieces that were in the till—I saw it just as the prisoner was passing out—I said, "This is a bad shilling"—I did not mix it at all, and never lost sight of it—I tried it in the detector and bent it—I went after the prisoner, but I could not see him—I put the shilling on a shelf behind the bar—I saw the prisoner again the next evening about the same time—I then served him with half a pint of beer, and he gave me another shilling which was bad—I saw he was the same man by the mark on his face—I said, "This is a bad shilling"—he said "Is it; I live across the road, I will get a good one"—he went across the road, and I after him—I caught him, and was going to take him to the station, but the policeman came along and I gave him into custody—the shilling was in my hand, and I gave it to the policeman before he took the prisoner—he came down with me and took the other shilling, which had been on the shelf at the back of the bar.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-96" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN CHURCHILL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 187). On 16th June I took the prisoner into custody from the last witness—he gave me one shilling at the time, and afterwards another at his house, which was bent—these are them.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-97" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both counterfeit.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was never running away; I walked across the road; I told him I took the shilling of a man; he came and asked me to come back; I said "Very well;" he said 'Here comes a constable, that will do as well."</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-781-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 19.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-781-18530704 t18530704-781-punishment-16"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ANN HOWARD</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-99" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH ASHFORD</persName> </hi>. I keep a Berlin wool shop, in Norland-road. On 11th June a person came to my shop, who, I believe, was the prisoner, between 8 and 9 o'clock in the evening—a person who was there served her with some Berlin wool—she laid down a crown; I gave it to my cousin to get change, because we had no small change.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> When you first saw me in Mrs. Howlett's shop you could not swear to me; when you saw me on the second remand you said it was me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I believe you to be the woman; I have very little doubt about it.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-100" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE CRAWLEY</persName> </hi>. I am cousin of the last witness. On 11th June the prisoner came to the shop, she asked for some Berlin wool—I saw her served—I shortly afterwards had a crown given me by Sarah Ashford—I took it over to Mr. Butlin's, a baker, to get change—I gave it to Mrs. Butlin; she put it in the till, and gave me five shillings in change—she then took the crown out of the till again—I am able to say it was the same crown I gave her—I had not lost sight of it—she gave it to Mr. Butlin to see if it was good, and he tried it—I saw him bend it, and he took it over to Mr. Serl—I did not go with him; I stayed in the shop—he came back and gave it me, and I took it back to my cousin's shop—when he gave me back the crown, I gave him back the five shillings I had received in change—when I got back to my cousin's shop, the prisoner was there waiting—I laid the crown on the counter and the prisoner took it up—I told her it was bad—she took it up and went out, and said "I have no more change; I must call for the</p>
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<p>wool on Monday evening" I understood it—Mr. Butlin told me the crown was bad when he returned it to me.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-101" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BUTLIN</persName> </hi>. I am a baker, and live in Norland-road. The last witness came to my shop—I saw a crown taken from the till by my wife—she gave it me—I tried it in the detector, and found it was bad—I bent it—I tried it in two or three places—I took it to Mr. Serl, and returned it to the last witness.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-102" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN NELL</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mrs. Howlett, of Shepherd's-bush. On 11th June the prisoner came to the shop, a little before 9 o'clock—I served her with an infant's cap, which she agreed to buy for 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a half sovereign—I found it was very light—I gave it to Mrs. Hewlett.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-103" type="given" value="CHARLOTTE"/>CHARLOTTE HOWLETT</persName> </hi>. On Saturday, 11th June, I saw the prisoner in my shop, about 9 o'clock in the evening—I received a half sovereign from the last witness—I took it to Mr. Miller's shop for change—he kept it—I returned to my shop, and found the prisoner waiting there—I told her it was bad—she said she was not aware of it—she was given into custody.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-104" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH MILLER</persName> </hi>. I keep the Mail Coach, at Shepherd's-bush. On that evening I received a half sovereign from the last witness—I found it was Very light—I bent it double on the counter with my fingers, and then bent it straight again—I gave it to the constable.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-105" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SERL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, T</hi> 4). On Saturday, 11th June, I received a half-sovereign from the last witness, about 9 o'clock in the evening—this is it—I went to Mrs. Howlett's, and found the prisoner there—she was given into my custody—i had seen her go from Mrs. Ashford's shop, and watched her all the way to Mrs. Howlett's—Mr. Butlin had called my attention to her—when I took the prisoner she said she was a servant, but the would not tell where till she got to the station—she then said, "At No. 14, Westbourne-grove"—I went, but could not find anything of her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-106" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half-sovereign is bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I received the half sovereign for some work I did for a lady.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-782-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 19.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM LEWIS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. DAWSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-108" type="given" value="JANE"/>JANE SWEET</persName> </hi>. My husband is a corn dealer, and lives in Leather-lane. On 14th June the prisoner came, about 8 o'clock in the evening—I served him with half a quartern of flour—he gave me a half Crown—I gave him a shilling and two sixpences—they were all good—I am sure of that—he shook the change in his hand for two or three minutes, and then he said he would not take the flour; he would send his mistress for it—he required the half crown back—I told him I was quite sure he did not want the flour when he came into the shop—he put down the change which I gave him, but I found the shilling which he put down was not the one which I had given him—the shilling I gave him was a Victoria shilling, a new one—the one he put down was an old one, and much worn—I told him it was not the same shilling immediately—he declared that it was—(he had been in the shop before on a similar errand)—I took the shilling which he gave me, marked it, and gave it to the policeman—I went up stairs, and called my servant to fetch her master from the yard—the prisoner wished to leave the shop; in fact he did leave it for a moment, but our man prevented him—when I came down he was asking our man to let him go, and the man would not—the prisoner declared that I had given him the bad shilling—I sent for a constable, and gave him in charge, with the shilling, to the constable.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> When had I been in the shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot say when it was; it was some time ago; but I know you had been in the shop on a similar errand.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What did he do?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He came in one evening, in a great hurry, with half a crown for change—I took it, and said it was a bad one—he said, "That will do," and he went out.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-109" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MARSHMAN</persName> </hi>. I am carman to Mr. Sweet. On 14th June my mistress called me, and said the prisoner had come in; he asked for half a quartern of flour, and said it was too dear—she said, "I suppose you want me to give, you your half crown back;" and she went to take the change up, and said, "This is not the shilling I gave you"—he declared it was—my mistress told me to call my master; and as I was going she said, "No, I will call the servant"—when she was gone, the prisoner took up the flour and the change, and was going out of the shop—I went behind him, and told him wherever he went I would follow him—he stood a minute, and came back, and I said to him, "It shows you are guilty; why did you want to take the flour and change, and go out of the shop?"—he said, "I will go now if you will let me"—my master then came, and I was sent for a policeman.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-110" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BURGESS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, G</hi> 97). On 14th June, about 8 o'clock in the evening, the prisoner was given in my custody by Mrs. Sweet—he said, "I did not give her a bad shilling"—I received this bad shilling.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-111" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a bad shilling of the reign of George the Third.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I had but one half crown; I went and called for half a quartern of flour—it was too dear—I never took the change off the counter—the half crown was all the money I had.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>
<hi rend="italic">to</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MRS. SWEET</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When you gave him the change what did he do?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He held it in his hand about three minutes—I gave him the change in his hand—it was a shilling and two sixpences—I am quite sure it was a new shilling.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-783-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 22.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GRACE JONES</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-113" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH ARGYLE</persName> </hi>. I was shopman to Mr. Turner, a draper, in High-street, Islington; I have now left. On 4th June the prisoner came there, and asked for two yards of calico—she paid me with a bad half crown—I told her it was bad—she said she did not know it, and if I would give it her back she would take it to where she got it from, and come back in a few minutes, and I was to keep the goods till she returned—I gave it her—she did not come back again—I am certain the shilling was bad—I tried it and bent it—on 18th June she came again for a pair of black stockings—she bought a pair at 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she paid with a bad half crown—I called the cashier, and gave it him—it was not out of my sight—it was a bad one—the prisoner was then given in charge—I gave the last half crown to the officer—I had seen the prisoner in the shop with bad money on 5th June, but I did not speak to her, as we were very busy; but I told the young men that that was the woman who had passed bad money—when she was given in custody for the last half crown I told her that she had been in the shop three times before—she said she had never been in the shop but once before—she said she lived at Peckham, but did not say where there.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-114" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BROWN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, N</hi> 180). The prisoner was given into my cus
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<persName id="t18530704-name-115" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-115" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half crown is bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I worked, and earned 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I went to the shop for a pair of stockings, and he said it was a bad half crown.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-784-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 57.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">ELLEN BASSETT</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-117" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY LAMBERT</persName> </hi>. I keep the Printers' Arms, in New Church-court, Strand. On 2nd June, between 9 and 10 o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came, and called for a pint of 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. ale—she gave me a shilling—I put it in the till, and gave her change, a sixpence and 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of halfpence—I am sure there was nothing in the till but a few sixpences when I put the shilling in—when the prisoner was about to leave the place I thought it right to look at the shilling—it was the only shilling that was in the till—on looking at it more closely I found it was bad—she was then just outside the door—I sent the waiter for her, and gave him the shilling—he gave the prisoner in charge.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-118" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SAVORY</persName> </hi>. Mr. Lambert gave roe a shilling, and desired me to follow this woman—I found her in the same court, five or six yards off—there were two of them together—I asked the prisoner to come back, as she had passed a bad shilling—she said she would not come back—I kept her in sight till I saw a constable, and gave her in charge, with the shilling.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-119" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE HURST</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, F</hi> 105). The prisoner was given to me by the last witness, with this shilling—the prisoner was searched at the station—Green gave me this half crown.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-120" type="given" value="HANNAH"/>HANNAH GREEN</persName> </hi>. I am searcher at Bow-street station. The prisoner was brought in, and I was called to search her—there appeared to be something in her mouth—I mentioned it to her—she then took something out of her mouth, and threw it under the seat—I still thought I heard something rattle in her mouth, and called a constable—she went down on her knees, and said, "It is no use to call a constable in, I have swallowed it"—I looked under the seat, and there found a half crown—I marked it, and gave it to the officer.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-121" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both counterfeit.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-785-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 31.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY CHAMBERLAIN</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-123" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN DOBSON</persName> </hi>. I am the niece of Henry Dobson; he keeps a fish shop at Knightsbridge. On the afternoon of 7th June the prisoner came and wanted a haddock—I asked her 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for it—she stood some time, and wanted me to take 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I said I could not—she went away, came back, and I agreed to take 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she paid me with a shilling—I tried it in the detector, and it was bad—I told her so—she said, "I just took it down the street; I will take it back to where I took it from"—I gave it her back—she went away, and did not come back to fetch the haddock.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-124" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES ANSLOW</persName> </hi>. I am a
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi> driver. On the afternoon of 15th June I was in the Swan, in Sloane-street, Knightsbridge, about half-past 12 o'clock at noon—the prisoner came in, and I saw her served with half a quartern of gin—she put down a shilling—I saw the barmaid examine it—she bent it, and got a pair of pincers, and broke it—she said, "This is a bad one"—the prisoner said, "I have got no more money; give me a 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth; I have</p>
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<p>only got a penny"—she threw the shilling back to the barmaid, who threw it back again—the prisoner went out—the barmaid asked me to follow her—she went into Hooper's-court, and there spoke to a man, who had a child, who I suppose was her husband—I did not hear what she said at first, but afterwards I heard her say, "Stop here till I come back"—she parted from him, and I followed her to Mrs. Lucas's shop, in High-street, Knightsbridge—I saw her go in, and when she came out I went in, and Mrs. Lucas gave me a counterfeit shilling—I bent it, followed the prisoner, and brought her back to the shop, called a constable, and Lucas gave her in charge—I gave the shilling back to Lucas.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-125" type="given" value="HARRIET"/>HARRIET LUCAS</persName> </hi>. My mistress keeps an earthenware shop in High-street, Knightsbridge. On 15th June the prisoner came and wanted a baking dish—the price of it was 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she wanted me to take 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I told her I could not, and she asked me to put in a little basin, which I consented to—she gave me a shilling—I gave her 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—she left the shop, and the last witness came in—from what he told me I examined the shilling, and found it was bad—I gave it to him—I saw him bend it—he followed the prisoner, and brought her back—I gave her into custody—the shilling I gave him was the same I received from the prisoner; I had not another in the till—when he brought the prisoner back he gave the shilling to me—the prisoner snatched it out of my hand, and broke it in two pieces—she returned one piece to me, and threw the other away—I saw a little boy pick it up—he brought it to the shop, and gave it to me—I delivered both the parts to the constable.</p>
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<persName id="t18530704-name-126" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-126" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT CLARK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, B</hi> 57). I took the prisoner in the Highroad, Knightsbridge—I received this broken shilling from the last witness—I requested the prisoner to allow Lucas to search her pocket—she refused—I requested her to let me search her—I took from her pocket three sixpences, one 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. piece, and 5 3/4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., in copper, all good—she said she did not care; I could only give her a b—y month for it; I could not transport her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-127" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This is a bad shilling.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-786-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 31.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES JACKSON</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN, DAWSON</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-129" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MART ANN LAMPARD</persName> </hi>. I am in the service of Mr. Stimpson, who keeps the Antelope, in Pimlico. On Saturday, 11th June, the prisoner came between I and 2 o'clock—I served him with a glass of half and half—he gave me a shilling—I gave him 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I put the shilling in the till—there were two half crowns, but no other shilling there—in a short time Mr. Stimpson went to the till—no one had been there in the meantime—he took the shilling out, and told me I bad taken a bad shilling—he laid it down on the mantelpiece, and in the evening he threw it on the fire—on 13th June the prisoner came again, about the same time in the afternoon—I served him with 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of gin and cold water, he paid me with a shilling, I gave him 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change, and put the shilling in the till, there was no other shilling there—Mr. Stimpson went to the till afterwards—no one had been there in the meantime, he took that shilling out and laid it on one side—I looked at it, it was a bad one—on Thursday 16th, the prisoner came again about a quarter before 2 o'clock, I served him with a glass of half and half—he gave me a shilling in payment for that—I recollected the man by his making a similar remark to one he had made before, about the weather—that led me to notice the shilling, I noticed it was a similar one to the other</p>
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<p>two—I told him it was bad—I called Mr. Stimpson from the cellar, and gave it him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you not say that Mr. Stimpson had put both the shillings in the fire?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; but he put it on one side—I serve occasionally in the bar—I serve every day.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DAWSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Had you an opportunity of hearing the prisoner speak two or three times?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I recognised the similarity of his voice, and his general appearance.</p>
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<persName id="t18530704-name-130" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-130" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS STIMPSON</persName> </hi>. I am landlord of the Antelope. On 11th June I took a shilling out of my till, it was bad—the girl said that I put it in the fire, that is the way we do with bad money—I could not swear I did so with that—on the 13th I found another shilling there, I took it out and put it on the mantelpiece—I put it from there to the cash box, and I gave it to the constable on the day the prisoner was examined at Westminster—On 16th June I was called up from the cellar by the last witness, she gave me the shilling in the cellar, I went up and found the prisoner there at my bar—I said to him, "Did you pass this shilling"—he said, "Yes, is it a bad one"—I said, "Yes, and I will give you in charge"—he said, "I will give you another one for it"—I said to the witness, "Is this the person who passed the other shillings"—she said, "Yes"—I sent for a constable, and gave him in charge with the third shilling—the second one I took to Westminster, and gave it to the constable—the second shilling had been in the meantime in the cash box, which was locked—no one had been there but me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> You did not give the second shilling till the 20th?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; that was the day of the second hearing before the Magistrate—I marked the second shilling on the 20th—I cannot tell how long it remained on the mantelpiece before I put it in the cash box, but no one was in the bar but myself till I put it in the cash box.</p>
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<persName id="t18530704-name-131" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-131" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW BAILEY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, B</hi> 133). On 16th June the prisoner was given into my custody at the Antelope—I received from the last witness a bad shilling—this is it; and on 20th June I received this other bad shilling from him—I found on the prisoner three shillings, one sixpence, and 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—he gave his address No. 22, St. Clement's-lane, Strand—I went there, and could not hear anything of him.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you ask him whereabouts the house was?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I went to No. 22—I did not go anywhere else—I did not go back and tell him I could not find it—I told the Magistrate so—I have not anybody here from any house in St. Clement's-lane.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-132" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-132" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These shillings are both counterfeit.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-787-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 27.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<hi rend="largeCaps">LOUISA ADAMS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18530704-788-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. DAWSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-134" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE BROWN</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Dolphin, in Whitechapel-road. On 25th June the prisoner came about half-past 6 o'clock in the morning—she asked for half a quartern of gin—I served her, she gave me a half crown—I examined it, tried it with my teeth, and bent it—it was bad—the prisoner got away as quickly as she could—I put the half crown on a shelf at the back of the counter—I gave it afterwards to the policeman—I am sure it was the one I took from the prisoner—I am quite sure she is the woman.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> You know I never was in the place; you know you are not telling the truth.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> It was you.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-135" type="given" value="EDWARD"/>EDWARD WIGLBY</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, H</hi> 144). I produce the half crown I received from the last witness.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-136" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-136" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH GRIMES</persName> </hi>. My husband keeps the Hat and Plough, in High-street, Whitechapel. On 27th June the prisoner came between 8 and 9 o'clock in the evening—she was served with some porter—she gave me half a crown—I put it in the till—there was no other half crown there—I gave her change, and she left—in a few minutes my barman went to the till—(no one had been there in the mean time)—in consequence of something he said, I took the half crown out; I found it was bad—I bent it, and kept it in my possession—in about twenty minutes the prisoner came again—she was served by my barman Carter, and he gave me a second half crown—I saw the prisoner give it him—I gave the first and second half crown to the officer.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-137" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES CARTER</persName> </hi>. I am barman at the Hat and Plough. I saw the prisoner on 27th June; she asked for a pot of porter, and gave me a half crown—I detained it, and gave it to my mistress—the prisoner ran out, I jumped over the counter, and detained the prisoner till I got a constable.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-138" type="given" value="ALFRED ALEXANDER"/>ALFRED ALEXANDER HALL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, H</hi> 127). On 27th June I took the prisoner, and received the two half crowns from Mrs. Grimes—the prisoner said she was a respectable married woman, and bad got a family of children—she said at the station that she was an unfortunate woman—she gave an address—I went there, but could not hear anything of her.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-139" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These half crowns are all counterfeit, and from the same mould.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-788-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 29.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN EDWARDS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. DAWSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution</hi>,</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-141" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY WISKAR</persName> </hi>. I am barmaid at the Red Lion, St. George's-in—the East. On 28th June the prisoner came about half-past 8 o'clock in the evening—he asked for half a quartern of gin, I served him—he threw down a shilling; I looked at it, took it up, and tried it with my teeth—I told him it was a bad one, and he then threw down a half crown, and said, "Take it out of that"—I examined that with my teeth, found it was bad, and sent for a policeman—the prisoner walked out—I gave the policeman a description of the prisoner, and he went and brought him back—he was the same man—I gave him in charge, with the shilling and half crown.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-142" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES GILLETT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, H</hi> 80). On 28th June the prisoner was given into my custody by the last witness, at the Red Lion—on the way to the station the prisoner said he knew he had done wrong, and he had changed forty before—when I apprehended him he was in front of St. Katharine's Docks, walking very slowly, with his hands in front of him—when I took him he appeared to be drunk, but he was not so—this is the shilling and half crown (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>),</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-143" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both bad.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-789-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 42.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">HENRY HOLDSWORTH</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. DAWSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-145" type="surname" value="FEBRAI"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-145" type="given" value="REBECCA"/>REBECCA FEBRAI</persName> </hi>. I keep a shop in Oakey-street, Warrington-square. On 21st June the prisoner came there, about half-past 9 o'clock in the evening—I served him with a half quartern loaf, he gave me a half crown—I examined it, and found it was bad—I told him so, and he put down a good shilling—a constable came in, I gave the half crown to him, and gave the prisoner into custody.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-146" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ABRAHAMS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, S</hi> 296). On 21st June I was on duty in plain clothes—I saw the prisoner in company with another one—I had known the prisoner previously—I watched him, and saw him go into the last witness's shop—I went in and took him—he said, "Well, you may take me, and lock me up till Saturday, and then I shall be
<hi rend="italic">turned up</hi>"—Saturday is the day on which all persons passing bad money are remanded to, and if there is nothing known of them then they are
<hi rend="italic">turned up</hi>, that is, discharged—at the station the prisoner said, "You can search me, I have got no more on me; I am too clever for you"—I found he had no more, only two good shillings.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-147" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half crown is a bad one.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> What the constable says is quite false about my saying I might be locked up till Saturday, and then
<hi rend="italic">turned up</hi>; he certainly knew me, from my being in custody four years ago, and by seeing me about Somers-town.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-790-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.* Aged 22.—
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<interp inst="def2-791-18530704" type="given" value="JAMES"/> JAMES YOUNG</persName> </hi>, and
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM FITZGERALD</hi> </persName>, were indicted for
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<interp inst="t18530704-791-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> a like offence.</rs> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">POLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-151" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-151" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN WEATHERLY</persName> </hi>. I keep the Half Moon, at Brentford. My wife was examined before the Magistrate—she is now confined, and unable to appeal—she was put to bed the day before yesterday.</p>
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<persName id="t18530704-name-152" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-152" type="given" value="GEORGE EDWIN"/>GEORGE EDWIN FLETCHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, T</hi> 110). I attended the examination of the prisoners at the police court at Hammersmith—I saw. Mrs. Weatherly there—she was examined, and her deposition was read over to her, in the prisoners' presence—they had the opportunity of cross-examining her—(
<hi rend="italic">deposition read</hi>: "Ann Elizabeth Weatherly—' I am the wife of John Weatherly, and live at the Half Moon, Brentford End. On Wednesday evening, 15th June, about 8 o'clock, the prisoners Bond and Fitzgerald came to our house; I served them with a pint of beer, and Bond gave me a half crown; before I took up the half crown, the prisoner Young came in, and asked for half a pint of beer; I served him, and he put down a shilling; I gave Bond the change out of his half crown, and Young the change out of his shilling; I picked up the two coins; Young immediately left the house, leaving half his beer behind him; Bond and Fitzgerald went into the tap room; I bit the shilling, and found it was bad, and sent my potboy to fetch Young back, and he did so; I told him it was bad, and he gave me a good shilling; I returned the bad shiling, and he bit it, and went away; I then tried the half crown; I found that to be bad; I went into the tap room to Bond and Fitzgerald, and told them they had given me a bad half crown; Bond said if it was bad he should be the loser of 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., as he had held a gentleman's horse on the race-course, and had given him 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change out of that half crown; Bond bit and bent the half crown, and between them they made up the sum of 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; I asked them if they knew that third party that came in behind them, for his shilling was bad; they said, "No;" they remained a short time in the tap room, drank their beer, and left the house.")</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-153" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH CLARK</persName> </hi>. I keep the Gardeners' Arms, at Brentford. On Wednesday, 15th June, Young and Fitzgerald came to my house—my daughter served them with half a pint of cider—I saw Fitzgerald pay my daughter a shilling, and Young gave me a shilling to pay for half a pint of cider—I said it was a bad one—he said he was sorry, and he would give me another—I returned it to him, and he paid with a good one—he went out of the door, and was gone for some little time—he came back, and said, "You have not given me the right change"—he laid the change down on the</p>
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<p>counter—there was 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I had given him 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I told him I had given it right, and I should give no more—he stopped some time, and afterwards went away—after he was gone my daughter brought a shilling to me—it was bad—I weighed it, and marked it, and gave it to the constable.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You keep a beershop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; sometimes we have a good many people in the shop, and sometimes but few—this took place about half-past 9 o'clock in the evening—there were not a good many other persons drinking at that time—Fitzgerald came in first, and drank his cider, and went away, before Young came in at all—I had no previous acquaintance with Young—I had told the officer that I had taken the money, and he went and got the men—he told me he thought he had the men—I went to Hammersmith police station, and I saw Young in the deposition room by the side of the Magistrate—I was in the room before he came, and he was brought in—the policeman did not introduce him to my notice; certainly not—the solicitor asked me who I knew, and I pointed to these persons—the three prisoners were there, and another person who has been discharged, a boy; I have seen nothing of him since—they brought these persons in, as the persons who passed bad money at my shop.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long after Fitzgerald had succeeded in passing a bad shilling did Young come in with another?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> In a few minutes; no officer or anybody else pointed out anybody, or influenced me in identifying these men—I knew them directly—Young came back—I saw him twice.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-154" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-154" type="surname" value="CLARK"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-name-154" type="given" value="MATILDA HESTER"/>MATILDA HESTER CLARK</persName> </hi>. I am a daughter of the last witness. I assist her in managing her business—I remember Fitzgerald and Young coming on 15th June; I am sure of them—Fitzgerald came first—he asked for half a pint of cider—I served him—he paid me with a shilling—I took it as a good one, and gave him 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in change—he went away directly he drank his cider—I afterwards gave that shilling to my mother—after Fitzgerald was gone Young came in; he asked for half a pint of cider—he proposed to pay with a shilling—my mother attended to him, and received the shilling from him—after he had gone he returned and complained of not having the right change—my mother would not give him any more—I had then a second opportunity of seeing him—I am quite sure these are the two men.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> I believe you had never seen Young before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he passed this money on Wednesday, and I saw him two days afterwards, on the Friday, at the Court—my mother did not go there till the Friday week—I am sure about that—it is not true that my mother went the first Friday—I was the only one who went the first Friday—it was at the Hammersmith police station—I saw Young before the Magistrate—the other two prisoners were there, and a boy that was taken—the policeman did not tell me that they were the men he had taken for passing bad money at our house—I was told that our case was then called on, and these were the prisoners—there were no other persons at our house on the night Young was there.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you not said that you could not identify any of them?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did on the first Friday, because I only saw the side face of Fitzgerald—I did not say I was afraid I should not be able to swear positively to any of them—I said I did not know him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was what you said in reference to Fitzgerald, and him only? Yes; I knew Young directly—I had no doubt about his being the man—I only saw Fitzgerald's side face, and without his cap—his cap was not put on that day, but it was the next day—I have no doubt that he is the man.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-155" type="given" value="GEORGE EDWIN"/>GEORGE EDWIN FLETCHER</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> I was on duty on Wednesday</p>
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<p>night, 15th June; I went along the Brentford-road, towards London—I saw the three prisoners and a boy talking together in the Brentford-road—they then separated—Fitzgerald and the boy went on one side, and Bond and Young on the other—I went up to Bond and Young, took them in custody, and told them it was for passing bad money—I laid hold of them, but Young put his hand in the breast of his coat, and ran across the road—I saw him throw away something over Mr. Bayley's premises, but I could not see what—another constable was on the other side of the road, about 150 yards from me—I took Bond to the station, and found on him 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. and a farthing, good money, principally in sixpences and 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-pieces—a man stopped Young, and he was taken.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-156" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-156" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID ACRES</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, T</hi> 111.) I accompanied Fletcher in pursuit of these men—he took Bond and Young—Young ran across the road to where I was standing—I saw him throw something over the wall of Mr. Bayley's premises—I searched there about 3 o'clock in the morning, as soon as it got daylight, and found twenty-six counterfeit shillings three or four feet from the wall, in this old rag, and wrapped in paper to separate each shilling from another—Mr. Bayley's premises are enclosed—it is called Linden-grove.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-157" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-157" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN HUBAND</persName> </hi>. I am a labourer. On Wednesday evening, 15th June, I was in the Brentford-road—I saw the prisoners and a boy talking along the road—Bond and Young went towards the John Bull, and the boy and Fitzgerald went a little way in the road—they sat down by the road side, and I passed them—they then all passed me again, and went into Mr. Maye's house, and I saw Young passing something into Fitzgerald's hand—they then passed a little before me, and the officers came and took them—Young escaped, and I stopped him.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18530704-name-158" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18530704-name-158" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-158" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This shilling which was received from Mrs. Clark is bad—these thrown away by Young are all counterfeit; eleven of them are George the 3rd—five are from one mould and six from another—fifteen of them are William the 4th; five of them are from the same mould as the one uttered by Fitzgerald—the other ten are from one mould—they are all bad.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Bond's Defence.</hi> I was coming home on Wednesday night, and met Young, and Fitzgerald, and the boy, on the Brentford-road; I was walking along, when the officer came and took me.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BOND</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-791-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—Aged 20,</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">YOUNG</hi>.
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18530704-791-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18530704-791-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—Aged 23.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FITZGERALD</hi>.
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<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-160" type="given" value="HENRY WILLIAM"/>HENRY WILLIAM TAME</persName> </hi>. I am a cow keeper, and live at Prince's-row, Notting-hill. I have known the prisoner two or three years—there was a little dealing between us—in May last there was no money due by me to the prisoner—on 24th May Hutchins came to my house between 7 and 8 o'clock in the evening—Duffield was with him—he banded me this piece of paper, and said "I have brought this paper, a writ from Mr. Lewis"—I said I did not owe Mr. Lewis anything at all—he said, Mr. Lewis instructed him to take any sum of money he could get from me—he said, could I give him 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. he would take that and give me a receipt, and I should have no more trouble—I said, "No, not a farthing"—he called me on one side, and said "Can't you manage to give me 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.?" I said, "No, not a farthing"—he then</p>
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<p>left—he came to my sister's house, where I lodge, two or three times, but I was not at home—Duffield was present when the writ was given to me, but I do not think he heard the conversation.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was not the prisoner taken before a Magistrate?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he was not discharged—Hutchings was charged—he was remanded, and the case against him was dismissed—I have known the prisoner three or four years—he has not been continually in my employment—I employed him to collect money for me—I only spoke to him once about it—I gave him so many debts at one time—I do not remember giving him more afterwards—that is about a year and a half ago—he sent me in a bill after I had sued him at the County Court—he did not make a charge against me for remuneration for the trouble and expense he had been put to in trying to collect my debts—he never said anything to me about it.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you pledge your oath that he did not, before you sued him, tell you that you were indebted to him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He said indebted to him, but he did not say how much—I have no memorandum of his making a demand on me—he never sent in the bill for the demand—I never had a bill sent to me.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he not, long before you sued him in the County Court, make a demand for remuneration for collecting your debts?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It is so long ago, I cannot give a decided answer—he never asked me for remuneration, or recompense, or payment, before I sued him—he sent a man with a bill to me afterwards—when I sued him in the County Court he pleaded a set off against my claim, and I believe his set off was allowed—he did not say in the Court that I was still further indebted to him—he did not say in my presence that I was indebted to him in a still greater amount—I sued him because he never gave me the money that he had collected—he never gave me any money at all—I cannot say exactly how much the debts amounted to—I keep the books, but the books are not with me—I do not know whether the debts I gave him to collect were in these books—I can tell very nigh what amount they were; it was about 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. altogether—he did not, after the County Court business, send me in a bill of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for collecting; it was 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—the bill was sent to me afterwards—I believe he sent it by Mr. Watts, and that person in his name demanded payment—he said he brought it from Mr. Lewis—I have not that bill here; it is on the file at my brother's—I cannot say exactly when that bill was brought to me—I believe the County Court business was in April—he sent the bill in a week afterwards—he made no applications to me for payment of the 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—Mr. Watts made application when he brought the bill—I received this copy of a writ about 24th May—I sued the prisoner for 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in the County Court—I gave him very nearly 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in debts to collect—that was long before May—he did collect some of the debts; I know that by his handwriting on the bills—I had witnesses to prove at the County Court that he received them—I have received other money.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">RIBTON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You authorized him to receive some debts, amounting to about 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he did receive part of that, and it was for that I sued him, 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I believe he pleaded at the County Court that I was indebted to him—I do not know what was the amount of the set-off—the set-off was allowed by the Judge—this was in April, and after that he sent a bill by Watts for 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I refused to pay him—I did not owe him 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., or any sum of money—whatever sums he collected, I have never received any of the money.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-161" type="given" value="ML"/>ML. SLEIGH</persName> </hi>.
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<p>to collect?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> More than twelve months; I know that from time to time he was calling and dunning the people for the money—there was no sale of any property of mine—there was a negotiation about the sale of some property to my brother—I did not instruct the prisoner to draw up an agreement; he drew it up of his own accord—I drew up one myself, and he drew one—he did draw up an agreement between me and the other party after he and I had some conversation about it—he charged nothing for doing it at the time, and I
<hi rend="italic">stood</hi> a pot of ale—he has since made a charge of 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you employ him to make this agreement?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he did it on his own account—I drew one, and he said, "It won't do," and he drew me one up, and charged me nothing for it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-162" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HUTCHINGS</persName> </hi>. I am a commission agent. About 12th May I saw the prisoner at the Yorkshire Stingo—this is my handwriting on this writ—I filled it up at the Yorkshire Stingo—the prisoner gave me directions so to do—after I filled it up I handed it back to him—he kept it a fortnight—on 23rd May I saw him again at the Yorkshire Stingo—he then made an appointment for me to meet him at his house, in the Latimer-road, on the 24th—I went, and he was not at home—I was directed to another house, the Hand and Friend beershop, in the Harrow-road—I saw him there, and he handed me this same paper that I had filled up—he gave me directions to serve it on Tame, for which he said he would give me 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I was directed to call on Mrs. Lewis for the 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he said I was to come to some arrangement, if I possibly could, with Tame; if I could get 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., I was to take it; and if not, 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; and if I could not get 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., I was to come to some arrangement with him—in consequence of these instructions, I went to Mr. Tame the same day—I think about 6 o'clock in the evening I saw him, and in due form I served him with this paper—I left it with him.—I said the same terms to him as I was directed to speak by Lewis—he said he should neither pay 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. nor 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., nor come to any arrangement, for he did not owe the money—I have been in the habit of serving writs before.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> How long haveyouknown Lewis?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> By attending the Marylebone County Court, three or four years—he told me that Tame owed him 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and he mentioned it at the Marylebone County Court, and said he had no doubt if he were summoned he would pay.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-163" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DUFFIELD</persName> </hi>. I am a collector of debts by commission. I was present on 24th May, at the Hand and Friend, when the last witness and the prisoner were there—the prisoner handed a copy of a writ to Hutchings, and told him to serve that on Tame, and if he could get 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. he was to get it; if not, to take 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; and to call on his wife, and she would give him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I did not have it in my hand—I think I said to Lewis, "Have you got the original?" and he said, "I is all right. "</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-name-164" type="given" value="ISAAC"/>ISAAC BURMAN</persName> </hi>. I am in the Exchequer-office. A principe is brought to the office by the person who wants to get a writ—the principe is left and filed with us—we have the means of knowing whether a writ has been issued from the office—this is one of the ordinary forms they get at the stationer's—it is filled up at the time it is left with us—the original is stamped by us—the person who gets it keeps the original, and serves a copy—this is a copy—supposing there had been a writ, there would be a principe on the file—I have searched the file, and there is no such name there—if there had been a writ, it would have been there at the present time.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-792-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="withRecommendation"/>GUILTY. Aged 53.—</rs>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, July</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Mr. Justice
<hi rend="smallCaps">TALFOURD</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">CHAPMAN MARSHALL</hi>, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUNTER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Talfourd and the Third Jury.</hi> </p>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18530704-793-offence-1 t18530704-name-168"/>Eliza Mardon</persName>, with intent to procure her miscarriage.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">SLEIGH</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SERJEANT MILLER</hi>
<hi rend="italic">appeared on behalf of the prisoner Cunningham</hi>,
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. DUNCAN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Currie, and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">for Thomas.</hi>)</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-793-18530704 t18530704-793-punishment-28"/>Transported for Fifteen Years</rs>.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THIRD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, July</hi> 6
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1853.</p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDNEY</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">LAWRENCE</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COMMON SERJEANT</hi>.</p>
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<interp inst="t18530704-795-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.** Aged 72.—
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