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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">HUNTER, MAYOR. TENTH SESSION</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">A star</hi> (*)
<hi rend="italic">denotes that prisoners have been previously in custody—two stars</hi> (**)
<hi rend="italic">that they have been more than once in custody—An obelisk</hi> (†)
<hi rend="italic">that they are known to be the associates of bad characters.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES</hi>.</p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, August</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1852.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The Right Hon. the Lord Mayor; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDNEY</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MOON</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt., Ald.; and Mr. Ald. Wire.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the First Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN HAZARD</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<p>763.
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 19
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; his property: to which</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">SMITH</hi> pleaded
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<interp inst="t18520816-763-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—Aged 30.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CURTIS</hi> pleaded
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<interp inst="t18520816-763-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.—Aged 33.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-764-offence-1 t18520816-name-6"/>George Penson</persName>, his master: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-764-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 26.—
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<p>765.
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in money; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-765-offence-1 t18520816-name-8"/>George Townsend</persName>, his master: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-765-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 22.—
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<p>766.
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<interp inst="t18520816-766-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="theftFromPlace"/>, stealing 3 watches, value 23
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-766-offence-1 t18520816-name-10"/>Henry Fuller</persName>, in his dwelling house: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-766-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 24.—
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<p>767.
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-12" type="given" value="WILLIAM AUSTIN"/>WILLIAM AUSTIN ANSTEE</persName> </hi>. I am a butcher, living at Highgate. The prisoner was in my service as a journeyman, from Christmas last—he used to take out meat and receive money from my customers—it was his duty to give the money he received to myself or my wife, the same day, when he returned from the customer—I have a customer of the name of Goodwin—in July last he owed me 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I have never received that from the prisoner—I have also a customer named Howell, who owed me 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I have never</p>
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<p>received that from the prisoner—he left my service on the same day he received the money; he received both sums on the same day—he ought to have given me a week's notice—he left without giving any—I gave informa
<lb/>tion to the police, and he was taken at Barnet.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I do not remember which day it was—it was money due to Mr. Anstee—a little ticket was produced—this is it (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—he receipted it at the same time—here are two bills, one is for 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. and the other for 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; he receipted them both—I do not think he put his name, he wrote on them—I lent him a pencil to do it with—here is the pencil mark, but it is nearly rubbed out.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I did not deliver these bills to him, nor did I bring him any meat that day.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I am sure he delivered one of them—I cannot say whether I paid him the day he left it, but I know I did pay him for the two.</p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-14" type="given" value="MARY ANN"/>MARY ANN BARNARD</persName> </hi>. I am servant to Mr. George Howell, of Finchley
<lb/>common; he deals with Mr. Anstee. On 6th July the prisoner brought some meat to my master's house—there was 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. owing—I gave him a sove
<lb/>reign to bring the change back, and I gave him the book to receipt—he took away the book and sovereign—he never brought back the change.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> It was not my intention to defraud Mr. Anstee, but I met with two or three men, butchers, and had a glass of ale with one and another till I got rather excited, and did not know what I was about; after I found out my error I sent the money back to Mr. Anstee to recompense him; This is my first offence; I have a wife and two children; I was coming back to Highgate when I was taken.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> He did not send back the money until he was in charge—his mother offered to pay the money—he went away on the Tuesday and was taken on the Friday—he bore a very good character before this.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—
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<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Monday, August</hi> 16
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1852.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">WIRE</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and the Fifth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-18" type="given" value="WILLIAM JESSE"/>WILLIAM JESSE DUNMORE</persName> </hi>. I am the brother of George Dunmore, the younger. On Saturday morning, 15th July, 1849, about 5 o'clock, I went with him to Plumstead marshes, and all the way I was persuading him not to go to fight—when we got there, I found the prisoner, and Scotcher, and two others—there was a fight with my brother and Scotcher, which lasted about thirty-five minutes—the prisoner was acting as second—my brother had a fall, I believe, rather than a blow—he could not get up—I got a cart from Mr. Foster, and took him home to his parents—he lived till about 12 o'clock that morning.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> You took out a sovereign, and offered to back your brother?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I did not run away after my brother was dead—he was not dead—I did not run away—I fetched a cart—I did not take out a sovereign.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did the prisoner do anything to try to stop the fight?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he was seconding the man—I was trying to prevent my brother going.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> I wanted them to leave off, and not fight about two girls, and</p>
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<p>you proposed to fight it out at 5 o'clock in the morning. Did you not make that proposal?
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I did not.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-19" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM IRVING</persName> </hi>. I live at Plumstead. I saw the fight—I saw the prisoner, he was acting as second—I did not see him make any effort to stop it—there was no unfair play.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-20" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-20" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT WEBB</persName> </hi>. I am a surgeon. I was called to see the man on the Sunday morning, between 10 and 11 o'clock—he was dying—he died within an hour—the cause of his death was the rupture of a vessel on the brain—I made a post-mortem examination, and found a fracture of the skull.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I wanted him not to fight at all, but he said, "As I have begun it, I shall go through it"; I said, "I shall have nothing to do with it"; I went the same as anybody else to see the fight.</p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-768-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 26.—
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<p>769.
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-769-offence-1 t18520816-name-22"/>Mark Sanders</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. ROBINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-23" type="given" value="MARK"/>MARK SANDERS</persName> </hi>. I live at 36, Crown-street, Finsbury, and am a dentist On 17th June, I was in the King's Arms, in Bishopsgate-street, between 12 and 1 o'clock—I saw the prisoner there—I had seen him before, at the Exhibition time, fifteen months ago—I had perhaps seen him once or twice since, in the same house—when I saw him on 17th Jane, he asked me to play at bagatelle—I said, "I can't play bagatelle"—I said I had got only 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in my pocket—I lost 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and said I bad got no more money—the prisoner came to me, felt my pocket, and said I had got more money—he took my watch—I was afraid he would break my guard—he took my watch and guard—I know no more—he went away—I never saw him any more—this is my watch, it cost 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>—it was a watch from my father.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How often bad you seen this mail before?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I see many people in public-houses—I cannot play bagatelle—I played that day for a pot of beer—I go for my business—I played only one game—I had got no more money—I did not take the watch myself out of my pocket—I never gave liberty to anybody to do so—I said, "You will break my guard"—he took it and put it in his pocket—the watch was in the pocket, and the key through the buttonhole—he came to me—he said, "Will you play more?"—he said, "You have got money"—he took the watch, and I said, "You will break my guard"—I took the key out of the buttonhole—I cannot tell how long he remained after he got my watch—he was gone—I saw nothing of him—there were two persons in the room, and me and the prisoner—I cannot say how long I remained in the house after the prisoner left—I was there a long time—I cannot tell how long, I did not write it on paper—it was a long time, that is all I know—the prisoner never lent me any money in my life, not a farthing—I am a stranger—I go into many public-houses—I go to that public-house sometimes—when I have a glass of ale I pay for it—I am a stranger in this country—I never played bagatelle twice in ray life—I think I had not played bagatelle at the King's Arms before 17th June—I am not a scholar—I am a scholar in my business.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you not been in the habit of playing bagatelle there several times, almost weekly?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No, sir; no, sir; a mistake, my good sir—I played bagatelle there for a pot of beer—I have taken out corns for 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I took corns out at the King's Arms for the waiter—he paid me 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-24" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-24" type="surname" value="LEONARD"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-24" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LEONARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 621). I was in the King's Arms on 17th June—I was in plain clothes—I saw the prosecutor and the prisoner there—I had met ray mate, and asked him to go in and have half a pint of</p>
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<p>beer—the prisoner proposed that the prosecutor and my brother officer should play bagatelle, and they played for a pot of half and half—the prisoner and I played together, and the prosecutor and the other officer—the prisoner is a good player—the prosecutor put down a 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.-piece, and said he had got no more money, only a penny—the prisoner said, "Nonsense, you must have more"—and he took his watch out of his pocket—he felt deliberately if he had got any money; and he took the watch—the prosecutor undid hit waistcoat, and let the watch go; and the prisoner took the watch and put it in his pocket; and put the chain through his button-hole—two or three other gentlemen came in, and he went out—he took the watch in a
<hi rend="italic">larking</hi> way; if he had not, I would have interfered.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Your mate was in uniform, and played in uniform?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; the prisoner had his coat off—he played with me, only one game—he came across, and laid hold of the prosecutor's watch—Mr. Sanders loosed the chain, and the prisoner took it—I believe he said, "Don't break the chain"—when the prisoner had taken it, he came and sat down by my aide—he said, "We will keep score while the other two play"—the prose
<lb/>cutor had another game with my mate, to see who should pay for the pot—the prisoner sat about ten minutes; he waited on customers who came in during the time—I know the prisoner as waiting there—I have been in the house sometimes—I believe the prisoner is brother-in-law, or related to the landlord—I think I have known him there, off and on, for four years—my reason for not interfering was, I thought the prisoner and the prosecutor were joking together—I thought they were intimate together—I had never seen the prosecutor there before—I did not properly understand the pro
<lb/>secutor—he and the prisoner appeared to be friendly.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-25" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-25" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ENRIGHT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 647). I was with the last witness on 17th June, at the King's Arms—I went in the bagatelle-room, where I found the prisoner and Mr. Saunders—I was in uniform, but was off duty—I played bagatelle with the prisoner—he was in his shirt-sleeves, waiting on the customers in the parlour—I believe he is brother-in-law to Mr. Scales, the landlord—the prisoner wanted the prosecutor to play on; and he said he had no more money—I saw the prisoner go over to the prosecutor: he said, to him, "Oh, nonsense! you must have more money"—I think it was in a joking manner—he put his hand in his pocket and brought his watch out—Mr. Sanders said, "Take care, don't break my chain"—I saw Mr. Saunders loose the button of his waistcoat, and let the key run through it—I believe the prisoner remained in the room from ten minutes to a quarter of an hour—I did not interfere when I saw the watch taken, because I considered they were so familiar that they knew one another previously—the prisoner went out after that, and we did not see him come back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-26" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-26" type="surname" value="MARSHALL"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-26" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH MARSHALL</persName> </hi>. I am assistant to Mr. Attenborough, a pawnbroker, in Crown-street. I produce this watch, chain, and key, pawned at our shop on 17th June, for 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—I took the pledge in, I think, between 12 and 1 o'clock—it was pawned by a female in the name of Mrs. Anne Watson—she was alone—this is the duplicate I gave—in about ten minutes afterwards I saw some one come to our door, who I believe was the prisoner—he asked me if I had taken in a gold watch and guard, which had been pledged at our place—I asked him why—he said, "If you have, it is all right, I sent the party with it"—I said, she had been gone about ten minutes—he did not ask me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> That watch has been redeemed from you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; it has never been taken out of my possession—the amount I lent on it was</p>
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<p>paid me, I believe, on the same evening, between 6 and 7 o'clock—I have not lost anything by this transaction.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Who paid it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mr. Scales; he said we should lose nothing by it—I know the King's Arms; it is two or three hundred yards from us.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-27" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HALL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 668). I took the prisoner about 8 o'clock in the morning of Friday, 28th June, at his apartment in Hoxton Old Town—I told him he was charged with stealing a gold watch and chain from a person named Sanders, in the King's Arms—he said Mr. Sanders gave him the watch, saying, "Here, Mr. Wilson, is my watch and chain at your pleasure;" and he afterwards said he should like such a customer every day—he said Mr. Sanders had owed him 2
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., but he did not then—he said he had pawned it and spent the money—he gave me this duplicate—I took him to the station, and found on him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., a knife, a pencil, and two betting-cards.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character.</hi>)</p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the goods of
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<p>771.
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<interp inst="t18520816-771-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, stealing 1 handkerchief, value 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; the goods of
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-771-offence-1 t18520816-name-31"/>Thomas Fry</persName>, from his person: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-771-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-771-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-771-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.** Aged 14.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-771-18520816 t18520816-771-punishment-8"/>Transported for Seven Years</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>772.
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<interp inst="t18520816-772-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, stealing 1 handkerchief, value 2
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-772-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-772-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-772-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 20.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-772-18520816 t18520816-772-punishment-9"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>773.
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<interp inst="t18520816-773-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="stealingFromMaster"/>, stealing 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; the property of
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-35" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-36" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-36" type="given" value="JOSEPH"/>JOSEPH WILLIAMS</persName> </hi>, Esq. I am a barrister, at 7, New Square, Lincoln's Inn. The prisoner came to my chambers on 29th June—he asked me if my clerk was in—I said he was gone out for a short time, but would be in shortly—he said he came from Messrs. Davis's respecting a fee of 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and an extra fee on account of difficulties respecting certain papers—he did not say he came to pay it—he said his call was respecting this fee; and he said he was quite sure Messrs. Davis would pay it—I expressed my regret that they should have the trouble to send about it—while we were talking, the clerk, Mr. Marsh, came in—I accordingly left the clerk's room, to which I had gone, and went into my room—I rather thought I should see the fee come after, but it did not—the prisoner certainly did not pay me—I did not receive from my clerk any account for the purpose of my clerk signing it—the clerk came in, and I left it to him to attend to it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> I believe this 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was made up of two fees?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, that was it; you said Mr. Davis was a perfectly honourable person—I think you produced the bill—this is it.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-37" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES DAVIS</persName> </hi>. I have one partner, ray brother Thomas; we are solicitors, and live at 25, Coleman-street. The prisoner was in our employ, as clerk, in June—he had been so since the 10th or 12th of April—I am a client of Mr. Williams'—on 29th June I gave the prisoner this account, with 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. In gold, to pay it—the amount is 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he was going to the westward—I saw him on his return, about 2 or 3 o'clock in the afternoon, he then told</p>
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<p>me he had paid Mr. Williams himself the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and he gave me 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—he told me he had left the account with Mr. Williams to be receipted, and that Mr. Williams never receipted accounts himself—he said I should have it the next day—I did not have it—the last day the prisoner was in my employ was on 1st July—he went out on business, and I did not see him afterwards till 7th July—I had no notion whatever of his leaving my employ—on 20th July, after he had been before the Magistrate, I found this account amongst the papers of a suit in Chancery, which no doubt the prisoner had had occasion to use—on 7th July I heard he was in the lower part of the house, and I went down, and found him in the passage—he complained of my having spoken harshly to him, and I accused him of what I termed embezzlement—he stated that he had lost two sovereigns of the money, and he meant to make it good—I sent for an officer, and gave him in charge.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> There is no other office there?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Our rooms are the only offices that are occupied; I have no recollection that you offered any explanation, or said that you came to explain—you did say you had come to make up your account, but you had no account to make up—I keep a cash-book—if I gave you money to pay, it was your duty to enter it in the cash-book, but that only applied to petty amounts—this was a transaction by itself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was it his duty to enter in the book what he paid?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Either myself or the clerk enter those amounts, but these sums are generally a few shillings—when it is a large amount I make it a transaction by itself—I always supply the clerks with money for the small sums—they are never called to pay money out of their own pockets.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> You say it was only usual to enter small sums in this book; I see here is an entry of 1
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 15
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., and I believe there are others as large?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> There might be instances of that; you never had any notice from me to quit, nor I from you—I inquired about the key of your desk—I do not know that I knew about the 3
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. then—I am quite clear that you said you had left the bill—I have no doubt I could have found where you were, from the information of the clerks—I do not recollect anything about your saying you had come to explain.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did he say on 29th June that he had lost the money?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; he stated that he had left the money with Mr. Williams himself, and this entry in the cash-book I made myself at the very period of his making that statement to me—I had not the least notion of his being about to leave me—he was employed in some Chancery suits, that required daily attention—I knew that he lived in the neighbourhood of Goswell-street, but his direct address I was not acquainted with—my clerks knew it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-38" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN MARSH</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. Williams. I remember coming in on 29th June, when the prisoner was there—my master went into his own room, and left me with the prisoner—he produced an account to me of some office fees that had been made before, and some extra fees that had been omitted, and he asked me if I would give him an account of the fees that were then due—he said Messrs. Davis were very good ones to pay fees, and he would bring them up in a few days—he did not say he had lost the money, or had got the money; nothing of the kind—I gave him the account of the remaining fees, and he left the office, taking the account away with him—he did not leave it with me to put the receipt to it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> It is very true what is stated by Mr. Davis and Mr. Williams; the fact is, having other business to do, it was my custom to put down the daily work on a slip of paper, which I carried in my waistcoat</p>
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<p>pocket; I changed the half-sovereign, and the three sovereigns I wrapped up in my daily list, and put it into my waistcoat pocket, and, going to other places, I must have dropped the money; Mr. Davis knows how difficult it is for a clerk to state to his employer the fact of a loss; I told him I had paid it, but I had lost it; how it was I cannot say; I did not go to the office again till I had used my utmost exertions to make the money up, but, not having done so, I went for the express purpose of telling him the fact; if I had absconded it would have been a different thing, but I never kept out of the way; he knew where to find me; I could have had a good character from a gentleman with whom I lived seven years, but he is dead; and my late employer, with whom I lived four years, is in Brussels; I only regret my error in having stated that I had paid it, but I did it hoping to make it up; if I had stated that I had lost it, it would not have been credited.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>. Aged 49.—
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. CLARKSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-40" type="given" value="MARY"/>MARY YOUNG</persName> </hi>. I live in James-street, Oxford-street, and am a draper. I was a customer of Messrs. Leaf and Co., in the Old Change. On 8th July I purchased goods of them, amounting to 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—they were delivered to me on the following day, the 9th, by the prisoner—I paid him 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he signed the memorandum at the foot of the invoice—this is it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 7
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—they were delivered the following day—I afterwards purchased other goods, amounting to 17
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—they were delivered at the lame time with the others—I paid the prisoner 22
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—he gave me this stamped receipt for the money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-42" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM SELF</persName> </hi>. I am a clerk, in the house of Messrs. Leaf and Co.—this is the book the prisoner had of moneys received—I received the moneys accounted for the 10th of July—he did not account for this 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. nor the 22
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-43" type="given" value="WILLIAM GLASSBROOK"/>WILLIAM GLASSBROOK DRAPER</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to Mr. William Leaf, and several other partners. The prisoner was in their employ for many years as porter and carman—it was his duty to deliver goods to customers, and receive money, and it was his business to account on the following morning for what he had received—if he received on 9th of July from Messrs. Young, 4
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and if he received 22
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 9
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. from Mr. Ensoll, it as his duty to account for them the next day—he has not accounted to me for those sums—it was his duty to enter them in this book, and to account to the last witness, or some other clerk—the prisoner was discharged on 12th of June, but not for these matters, they were not known.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> He had been in your employ from a child?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; from quite a boy—he was called on to account, and he stated he had lost about 40
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. from a hole in his pocket, about a month previous, and that he bad applied these moneys from time to time to make up the deficiency.</p>
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<persName id="t18520816-name-50" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-50" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY PEARCE</persName> </hi>. On Saturday night, 31st of July, I was on the canal bridge, at Uxbridge—I laid my head down, and went to sleep—I had a half crown, a sixpence, and three penny pieces in a tobacco-box, in my left hand pocket—I awoke, but I did not miss anything till I had got thirty yards beyond Mr. Roadknight's house—I then told my friend that I had lost my tobacco-box—he said he had no doubt but
<hi rend="italic">Bet</hi> (the prisoner) had it—I went back to her, and said, "You have got a tobacco-box"—she said, "Yes"—I asked to look at it, and said it was mine—she said
<hi rend="italic">Tom</hi> Dean gave it her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> He was coming along very tipsy; the tobacco-box fell out of hit pocket, and I took it up.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> When she gave me the box the half crown was gone—I said, "Where is the half crown?" she said she did not know.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-51" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM DOWSON</persName> </hi>. I was standing by the last witness—I saw him asleep —the prisoner was shaking him, and trying to wake him—I awoke him, and said, "Come home"—he came on, and the prisoner came with us—after we got off the bridge, there was a tobacco-box fell—I said, "What is that?"—there was no answer, but the prisoner took up the box, and put it in her bosom—when he got about thirty yards further he said he had lost his tobacco-box—I said, I saw the prisoner with it—he went back; she gave it him, and said
<hi rend="italic">Tom</hi> Dean gave it her.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner.</hi> The prosecutor said, "Have you got a tobacco-box?" I said, "Yes"; I pulled it out of my bosom, and gave it him; he took it and opened it, but he did not say he had lost anything out of it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">police-sergeant, T</hi> 11). I took the prisoner on 9th Aug.—I went after her but she was not at her lodgings—I traced her ten or a dozen miles from there, and took her at Uxbridge, at her house, after she came back—I told her the charge; she said a person gave her the box, and she had pawned her frock to send the half crown back.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> She sent me the half crown back on Saturday week, and said would I make it up with her—I said I knew nothing about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I was at home on Friday morning, and be sent for me to the field, and he said, "I lost half a crown out of my tobacco-box;" I said it was a hard case to make up what I never had, but sooner than I would get into a
<hi rend="italic">bother</hi>, I would give him the half crown; and my grand
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 12
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>., of
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-58" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-58" type="surname" value="BOUCH"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-58" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>
<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-777-offence-1 t18520816-name-58"/>Frederick Bouch</persName>, in a vessel on the
<placeName id="t18520816-geo-1">
<join result="offencePlace" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-777-offence-1 t18520816-geo-1"/>Thames</placeName>: Graham having been before convicted.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-59" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-59" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-59" type="surname" value="GIBBONS"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-59" type="given" value="DAVID"/>DAVID GIBBONS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Thames-police inspector</hi>). On Wednesday morning, 4th Aug., I saw the prisoners in a skiff, lying under the head of the brig
<hi rend="italic">Patriot</hi>—I ordered my men to pull after them—they tried to get away, and pulled to the south side—Brian pulled as hard as ever he could, but we overtook them just as they got to the shore—I found in their boat this coat, gown, and waistcoat, three handkerchiefs, and this telescope—the prisoners asked me what I was going to do with them—I said to take them to Wapping to lock them up—in going along, Brian threw something in the water, which I thought was a watch, or a purse—I said to him, "You have thrown a watch overboard?"—he said, "No, it was a piece of paper."</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Brian.</hi> I said it was a bit of paper I took the tobacco out of.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I found on Jones two half crowns, and 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-60" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-60" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-60" type="surname" value="LAZENBY"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-60" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS LAZENBY</persName> </hi>. I am the master of a schooner lying off Tooley-street. On the morning of 4th Aug. I missed this telescope—it is mine.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-61" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-61" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-61" type="surname" value="BURROUGHS"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-61" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES BURROUGHS</persName> </hi>. I keep the Rose and Crown, in Lower Thames-street. I lent a watch to captain Bouch this day three weeks—this is my watch.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-62" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-62" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-62" type="surname" value="BOUCH"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-62" type="given" value="FREDERICK"/>FREDERICK BOUCH</persName> </hi>. I am captain of the
<hi rend="italic">Patriot</hi>, which is lying off the Tower. On 3rd Aug. I had this watch, belonging to the last witness—I left it in the state room at half past 11 o'clock at night—I missed it in the morn
<lb/>ing of 4th Aug.—I missed also my coat and waistcoat, and my wife's dress, and a pocket handkerchief, and this purse with four shillings and two half crowns in it—they took the purse out of my trowsers pocket—they did not take the trowsers—these are the articles (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) they were all safe at half past 11 the night before.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-63" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-63" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-63" type="surname" value="GRIFFIN"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-63" type="given" value="JAMES WILLIAM"/>JAMES WILLIAM GRIFFIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Thames-police inspector</hi>). I went and dragged the Thames for about an hour, and found this watch within a very trifle of the spot pointed out by inspector Gibbons.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Brian.</hi> We went to Gravesend, and left there at 8 o'clock; we travelled all night; we saw three men, and asked them to take us across the water as we were tired of walking; we went, and they were singing out, "Hurrah!" we rowed off, and the police took us.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-64" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-64" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-64" type="surname" value="FRAZER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-64" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>CHARLES FRAZER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">Thames-police</hi>, 73). I produce a certificate of Graham's former conviction at this Court—(
<hi rend="italic">read: Convicted</hi> 18
<hi rend="italic">th Aug.</hi> 1851,
<hi rend="italic">for stealing three shirts in a vessel; confined six months</hi>)—he is the person.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">BRIAN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-777-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. ** Aged 18.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GRAHAM</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-777-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-777-verdict-2" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-777-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 19.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18520816-777-punishment-12" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-777-18520816 t18520816-777-punishment-12"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JONES</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-777-verdict-3" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-777-verdict-3" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-777-verdict-3" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 26.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18520816-777-punishment-13" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-777-punishment-13" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def3-777-18520816 t18520816-777-punishment-13"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, August</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1852.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">RECORDER</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">SIDNEY</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MOON</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt., Ald.; and Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">CUBITT</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder and the Second Jury.</hi> </p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-778-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.* Aged 22.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-778-18520816 t18520816-778-punishment-14"/>Transported for Seven Years</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">RICHARD SILL</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-779-offence-1 t18520816-name-68"/>Henry Broome</persName>, by false pretences.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. PARRY</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">METCALFE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-69" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-69" type="given" value="HENRY"/>MR. HENRY VERRALL</persName> </hi>. I am clerk to the Magistrates, at Brighton. I remember the defendant, Mr. Sill, attending before the Magistrates there, on several occasions—I saw him there on 8th March—there had previously been several hearings of the case of Staven and Broome—the charge against them was, obtaining money and bills from Mr. Hamp under false pretences, and for cheating at cards—I did not take any note of what Mr. Sill said on 8th March; I can speak from my memory—he applied to the Magistrates that they would sanction his withdrawing from the prosecution, and that Mr. Chase's recognizance, who had been bound over to prosecute, subsequently to Mr. Hamp being bound over, might be considered to be discharged—his grounds for making the application were, that Mr. Hamp had made an</p>
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<p>affidavit in the matter relative to Mr. Sill's bill of costs, in which he, Mr. Hamp, swore directly opposite to the evidence which he had given before the Magistrates in his deposition; and that another witness, Sherman, I believe, had also made some affidavit, or statement, contrary to what he had sworn before the Magistrate; under these circumstances little reliance could be placed upon them, and he desired to withdraw from the prosecution—there was a great deal said on the subject, but I cannot charge my memory with any thing more—the Magistrates retired, and after some consideration returned, and told Mr. Sill that, as he desired to withdraw from the prosecution, they no longer considered him as the solicitor for the prosecution—that was followed by Mr. Sill saying that he hoped he had the approval of the Magistrates in the course he had pursued—the Chairman replied, "We give no opinion upon that, Mr. Sill;" and that closed the proceedings—Mr. Sill never appeared as solicitor for the prosecution after that—the Magistrates had previously bound over the superintendent of police to prosecute—I was afterwards instructed by the Magistrates to carry on the prosecution—I did so, and Staven and James were tried and convicted—the proceedings were against John Broome, Charles Staven, and John James—James and Staven were convicted, John Broome did not appear—that is, he did not appear to answer the indictment; he was there, but was not tried—Mr. Hamp and Sherman were examined as witnesses for the prosecution, on the trial of that indict
<lb/>ment—Mr. Hamp was subpœnaed because he did not appear at the first assizes, and his recognizances were estreated; but Sherman having appeared at the first assizes his recognizances were enlarged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-70" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-70" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-70" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BROOME</persName> </hi>. I reside at 102, Lisson-grove. I was, a short time ago, proprietor of the Opera tavern, in the Haymarket—I am also the champion of England—I remember a young gentleman of the name of Hamp lodging at my brother's, John Broome's, in Air-street, Piccadilly—I remember their going to the Brighton races last year—after that there was a charge made against my brother John, with Staven and James, of cheating Mr. Hamp at cards—I was not at Brighton at the time—I first heard of the charge on 23rd Aug.—I know the defendant—I had never known him before the charge was made against my brother—I first saw him, to speak to him, on 6th March, at an oyster house in the Strand—(I attended at the Spring Assizes at Lewes—I saw Mr. Sill there then, but that was after 6th March)—I was at the Coal-hole tavern, in the Strand, and was sent for—a friend, or relation, of the pro
<lb/>prietor of the Coal-hole came for me, and I went to Mr. Price's oyster shop, in the Strand—it must have been about 11 o'clock at night, it was Saturday night—I saw Mr. Sill there—he shook hands with me, and said he had been anxious to speak to me for some time—we had several glasses of grog together in the oyster shop; I paid for the greater part of it—Mr. Sill then proposed going to my house, as he could not speak before so many persons—in con
<lb/>sequence of that I ordered a
<hi rend="italic">cab</hi>, and went with Mr. Sill to the Opera tavern—it was near 12, or it might be a little after when we got there: we went into the bar-parlour, my wife was there—she left the room, and when we were alone Mr. Sill said it was he that had carried out this prosecution against my brother; and he also said that he had seen the Secretary of State on the subject, and he had told him that if my brother was convicted he would be transported—he said it was impossible for him to escape, as he had drawn an indictment with thirteen counts, and he could not get through it—our con
<lb/>versation lasted till 5 in the morning—he said there was just time enough to save my brother, and he could do it; and he also said that he must have for doing it at least 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—he said he would give me till 2 o'clock on the same</p>
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<p>day, being Sunday, to get the money together—it was then getting on for 5—he then left, saying he should be there at 2, and I must get the money ready.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> When he told you that he had seen the Secretary of State, and that he had told him that your brother would be transported, and so on, did you believe that statement?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did—I understood from him that he was the attorney for the prosecution—he called again at 2 o'clock—he then repeated his conversation about what power he had with the Secretary of State, and he said, "I have even changed the prosecutor from Mr. Hamp to a Mr. Chase, and that I did through the Secretary of State"—I believed that statement at the time—there was a newspaper lying there at the time, and there was a paragraph in it to that effect, about changing the prosecutor—I believe there was a copy of a letter published, and his name signed at the bottom, where he made an application—I gave the money he asked, and a little more—I gave him these two bills of exchange (
<hi rend="italic">producing them</hi>)—they have my endorsement and my brother's—they are drawn by John Hamp, Mr. Hamp's brother—they are for 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each, one at three months, and the other at four months—they are promissory notes, drawn on French stamps; they were drawn at Boulogne—I saw them drawn—when he had got the bills, he said he must have some money—I gave him a 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.-note, two 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.-notes, and a check for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on Taylor and Lloyd, of Birmingham; that was not my own check—about an hour afterwards he said, in looking at the stamps of the bills which I had given him, that there would be some difficulty in getting them discounted; and he said, "You must give me another bill for 240
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., drawn by you, and accepted by your brother"—this was at the same interview; he did not leave the house before I did it—I told him there was no bill stamp to be got that day, being Sunday—he said, "Well, you must go and get me one"—I managed to get one, and the body of the bill was drawn by the party I got it from; I told him what it was for when he was drawing it—I have the bill here (
<hi rend="italic">producing it</hi>)—it is for 240
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. dated 6th March at four months—this endorsement "Henry Broome" is my signature, and this "Accepted, John Broome," is my brother's—I handed this bill to Mr. Sill—he did not return me the two French bills when I gave him this—a Mr. Genesse drew the bill—he is here—he did not leave upon my handing him that bill, he staid till 11 o'clock at night; he dined and drank there at my expense—when he had the three bills he told me to put my name to them—I told him I could not think of putting my name to them; in fact, I was not in a position to pay them; and further, I said I was a bankrupt, and it would not do for me—(I was at that time a bankrupt)—Mr. Sill said, "There is no harm in it; you will take my word as a good bankruptcy lawyer, you will get in no difficulty with it"—I eventually put my name on the bills—at 11, Mr. Sill left with the bills and money; it was arranged that he was to sleep at Dubourg's, in the Haymarket, and I was to go there for him next morning at half past 9—I went to Dubourg's at half past 9 next morning (Monday, 8th March)—he had said on the Sunday that be would go down to Brighton and get Mr. Chase released from his recognisances, and set aside the prosecution, and he was sure the Secretary of State would not interfere with it if he did not—it was arranged that I was to go with him to Brighton—I took a telegraphic message, written by Mr. Sill—it was to the Brighton Magistrates, telling them that he should be down by the 12 o'clock train—I went down by the 12 o'clock train—Mr. Sill went with me—he went before the Magistrates—he asked to speak to them, and the Magistrates ordered the court to be cleared—I was not present when he made the application, nor when the Magistrates returned, and did not hear what he said—I have seen Mr. Sill</p>
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<p>very frequently since 8th March—I came back the same night with him to London—he came to my house that night, at 9 or 10 o'clock, with a gentle
<lb/>man of the name of M'Murray, from one of the newspapers—between 8th March and 13th April, Mr. Sill asked me for money several times—I was down at the Spring Assizes—he was there—he has had money from me several times—the amounts varied—he had as much as 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. one day—the last money he had of me was 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—it went through my brother's hands to him—that was to go down to Hereford, to get Mr. William Hamp and Mr; Proberte, the clergyman, and Mr. Prichard, his guardian, to make affidavits to remove the venue from Brighton to London—that was on 13th March, before the Spring Assizes—he sent a letter from Hereford on 13th March—I believe that letter is here—I did not go down to the Spring Assizes with him; I met him there—he was in my company there several times—my brother John was down there one day, but he went back again; he was not seen—I did not give Mr. Sill any money at Lewes—I was not present when any application was made about removing the venue—this letter (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is Mr. Sill's hand
<lb/>writing—(
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>: "To Mr. Thomas O'Brien. Hereford, 13th March, 1852. My dear O'Brien,—I have had an interview with the Rev. Mr. Proberte and Mr. Edward Pritchard; and I shall be in London by the mail train on the Monday morning, accompanied by the Rev. Mr. Proberte and Mr. William Hamp; and on Monday an application for a certiorari will be made, with the sanction of Mr. Proberte and Mr. Pritchard. You had better be in Tavistock-row at 11 o'clock, and Genesse must be ready with the cash for Mr. John Hamp's two bills."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Do you know what that refers to, about Genesse being ready with the cash?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; it is for the two bills of exchange that be first received—Genesse is a monied man, and a friend of mine; and Mr. Sill went to him to get them discounted—I have no memoran
<lb/>dum here in Mr. Sill's handwriting—I have brought all I have—I have got a draft here for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in his handwriting, and one for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—Mr. Thomas O'Brien, to whom this letter is addressed, is a friend of Mr. Sill's—I had seen him with Mr. Sill about this matter—I have met them together several times—when Mr. Sill has called at my tavern, he has seen my brother many times—on 13th April, he called on me about half-past 6—he said he had made an appointment with my brother John, to meet him at 7—my brother was not there then—I had some friends at dinner up stairs, and he came up about twenty minutes afterwards—my brother came up first, and then in came Mr. Sill—I asked him to have a glass of wine—he said no, he had come for business—he then asked my friends to leave the room—a Mr. Bray was one of my friends, and there was also a lady—after they left the room, I and my brother were left alone with Mr. Sill—he then said, "These bills you have given me, are so long a date I cannot get them discounted; I want a draft or a banker's order at seven days for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in ready money"—at this time I had advanced him in money, from time to time, from 130
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. to 140
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—that is including the 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. check—in consequence of Mr. Sill's visits, and my having given him so much money, I had consulted a legal adviser, and in what was done on the evening of 13th April, I was acting under legal advice—when he said "I must have a draft for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. at seven days, and 15
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. or 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. in ready money," we asked him how he could think of coming and asking for such serious sums of money, particularly as my brother said he was innocent, and I had nothing to do with it, although I was making myself liable about it—he said he must have it—it mattered not how innocent either of us</p>
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<p>were, it was what the world thought—my brother said he could give him no more money, and would not allow me to give him any; but in a few minutes after I went out for a bill stamp, and Mr. Sill drew the body of it—it is an order on Taylor and Lloyd, of Birmingham, for 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—(
<hi rend="italic">reading it</hi>)—my brother said that he had ruined him, he had sacrificed his position, and his character, and he could not submit, or allow me to submit to this extortion, either of us any longer—Mr. Sill said we were well aware of his power with the Secretary of State, and if we did not give him the money he should most certainly carry it into effect—I sent for the bill stamp, because I thought it was better to do so than allow my brother to be sacrificed—the first bills were lying on the table, and my brother asked him to let him look at the bill stamp—in reaching over for it my brother picked them all up, and put them in his pocket—I also retained this 200
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bill—Sill was very much excited, and said if we did not give them up, he would never leave me or my brother until he had transported us—my brother had possession of them, and refused to give them up to Sill—Sill said, "I will give you one other chance before you leave, and if you do not I will make it the bitterest day's work you ever had in your life"—my brother said he might do his best or his worst, be should never give them up, they were his property—we were acting under advice in taking this course—here is another bill (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—it is for 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., drawn by Mr. Sill on Thomas O'Brien—it is in Sill's writing—I had to give him the money—I gave it him on 6th March (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>—"3rd Oct. 1851, Three months after date, pay to my order 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., for value received—to Thomas O'Brien, Esq., Accountant's-office, General Post-office, London. Richard Sill")—on 6th March I gave him the two bills of 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.—I believed the representations he made to me that he had been to the Secretary of State—I should not have parted with those bills if I had not believed that representation—I should not have parted with the two 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.-notes, the check for 10
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., and the check for 20
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., if I had not believed that representation—I all along believed, until 12th April, that Sill had been to the Secretary of State, and that he had the power he represented.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have any of the securities which have been obtained of you by false pretences been paid?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Only the 25
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. one; that was paid on 6th March—O'Brien's bill was overdue, and Mr. Sill banded it to me—I am the prosecutor of this indictment—I have also preferred two other bills, three altogether—I charged Mr. Sill with false pretences, before any indictment was preferred—I went to the police station, and afterwards preferred this indictment, and two others—the Magistrate did not grant me a summons, but told me if I could see Sill to give him into custody, but he was locked up in the Queen's Bench, and I could not—I preferred two bills first, and then this one—I do not know what the indictments contain—I believe one of them mentioned robbery in one of the counts—the robbery was his taking the moneys and bills from us—Sill robbed me, the champion of England, by threats—I believe there was a charge of false pretences, too—the false pretences were that he had obtained this very money and these very bills of me—I was present in Court when Mr. Sill was acquitted on those two indictments—the case was not heard, as there was no evidence there—I was there, but there was nobody else—I had known young Mr. Hamp twelve months before he went to my brother's—I saw him before he went there—it was not me who recommended him there—I saw him there twice—I never played at cards in my life—I did not see James and Staven there—I know who they are, I saw them at Lewes—there was a charge against my brother, which I was told was a transportable offence—I believe Staven and James had two years imprisonment—my object in all my transactions</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="185208160014"/>
<p>with Sill was not to compromise the thing with my brother; but he said he had such power, even if he was innocent, he could convict him—I am twenty-six years old this month—I believed that Mr. Sill, who came drinking innumerable glasses of grog, had such power that he could transport an innocent man—he told me so, and I believed him—I knew there was a charge against him—Mr. Sill came to me, I should never have gone to him, and should never have given him the money if he bad not told me what power he had with the Secretary of State—he told me he had spoken to the Secretary of State, and I mean to say, upon my oath, that I believed it—he told me he had changed the prosecutor, through his influence, with the Secretary of State, and I believed it—I wanted to save my brother—I did not know how Sill could save my brother, that was for him to know—he was calling at my place every day for money—I should not even have been satisfied if my brother had not been prosecuted, because I have lost a serious sum of money—I have seen Mr. Hamp during the proceedings, but we bad no conversation as to settling the matter, for as far as he was concerned it never wanted any settling—I wanted it withdrawn altogether, as far as John Broome was con
<lb/>cerned—I did not go to Shrewsbury with him—I did to Hereford—I did not engage in business while I was there, only in taking my exercise—it is nearly twelve months ago—I believe there was some electioneering going on, but I did not go there—it was not at Monmouth, my brother was not there at the same time—I was never at Monmouth, I have been at Worcester—there was an election going on at Ledbury—I was down there—I went to see a gentleman named Higgins, a solicitor—I do not know whether he was on 13th April, nor 6th April; he was on 6th March, but he did not hear what took place—he was at my house on 6th March—he was very tipsy, and had to go into the back room, and they laid him on a bench in the back parlour—he was a friend of Mr. Sill's—he was not in the bar parlour, but in the back parlour, there is a partition between.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you ever see him till you saw him with Mr. Sill?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he used to come backwards and forwards between us—when Sill said he had seen the Secretary of State, I believed him, and when he told me the Secretary of State had told him John Broome had been, or could be, transported, I believed that—that is Mr. Sill (
<hi rend="italic">pointing to him</hi>)—he is the gentleman who made these representations.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did Mr. Sill tell you, in the course of the pro
<lb/>ceedings, that he could not get his bill of costs paid by Hamp?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> He said they were taxing his bill of costs.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> In the course you have taken in preferring indictments, did you act under the advice of attorney and counsel?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I never drew an indictment—I should not understand it if I were to read it—before preferring any bill of indictment I went before a Magistrate and applied for a summons against Mr. Sill, which was refused—I applied on two occasions—the indictments in the Queen's Bench were not tried—I had been inferred by my attorney that the case was made a
<hi rend="italic">remanet</hi> of, and was to stand over till next term—prior to that, the witnesses had been told not to come up from Birmingham and Brighton, I had no one to hold the brief; I was there by myself—none of my witnesses were there—one or two came up in the middle of the day after it was over—Mr. Verrall was one.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">Thomas Bray was called upon his subpoena, but did not appear.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-71" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-71" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-71" type="surname" value="GENESSE"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-71" type="given" value="SAMUEL"/>SAMUEL GENESSE</persName> </hi>. I know the defendant, I also know Mr. Henry Broome. I saw Mr. Sill several times, but I almost forget dates—I remember seeing him on a Sunday—shortly after I had seen him I went to Broome's, but not</p>
<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="185208160015"/>
<p>with Sill—I saw Sill on Sunday morning, and went to Broome's the tame Sunday, at 4 o'clock—I was induced to go to Broome by some conversation I bad with Mr. Sill, and he told me he should be there in the afternoon—I cannot remember the conversation—he said he had been at Broome's, and he should be there again in the afternoon, and asked me to come there and take a glass of something, and I went—I do not recollect that anything was said about the Brighton business—Mr. Sill bad another gentleman with him, I do not recollect the conversation that took place—he did not say what he was going to Broome's for—I did not pay much attention, as he had been drinking a little—I went to Broome's about 4, and saw Sill there—I saw this bill of exchange (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—I drew the body of it for Mr. Henry Broome; that was on the same Sunday—it is dated 6th March—I put in the date myself, but I am sure I should not have dated it on a Sunday—I am a Jew—I would not date a bill on a Sunday, but I should date it as near as I could; consequently, it must have been the Sunday nearest 6th March—I should not object to date a bill on a Saturday—it was on a Sunday, somewhere about 6th March, that I saw Sill—before I drew that bill I had seen Sill at Mr. Broome's—I was at dinner, and was called down and drew that bill for him—it was an hour or an hour and a half after I had seen Sill at Broome's—I left, and John Broome called on me an hour or an hour and a half after, and asked me to oblige him with a stamp, if I had such a thing in the house—I found this stamp, and drew the bill for him—I saw the bill again in Broome's possession within the last month—I saw Sill again afterwards—he did not call on me to discount some bills on any occasion.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was that bill, or were any bills with Broome's name on them, offered to you for discount?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> A person called on me, it might have been a fortnight or three weeks afterwards, and asked me to discount a bill, and he described this particular bill—it was a man named O'Brien—he had not the bill with him—I do not know that I have ever seen these bills (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—bills like these were often offered to me to be discounted, but as I did not intend to discount them I never looked at them—O'Brien was the person who offered them, but I cannot say as to these bills, as I made up my mind to have nothing to do with them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-72" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-72" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-72" type="surname" value="PARRY"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-72" type="given" value="EDWIN"/>EDWIN PARRY</persName> </hi>. I am managing clerk to an attorney, Mr. John Smith, of Birmingham. I know Sill—about the latter end of March the "boots" from the White Hart came with a message, and Mr. Sill came the next day—I saw him—he asked for Mr. Smith—I told him he was not within—he asked how soon he would be in—I told him it was rather uncertain, but he would be in perhaps in an hour—he said his name was Sill—I asked him if his business related to Mr. Hamp—I told him I knew all about it, and I could do the same as Mr. Smith—he hesitated a little, and talked about Mr. Hamp's matter—he saw I was well acquainted with the affair, and said his business in Birmingham was to get some bills discounted, which he produced—I saw two 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. and one 240
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bills; these are them—here are two French ones and the English one—I told him I did not like the names, and that Mr. Hamp was good for nothing, he was insolvent—I said I did not think Mr. Smith would be able to get them discounted through Mr. John Broome's position— Sill said if I referred to the Brighton business that was arranged—this was within a day or two of Baron Nicholson coming and taking the Hippodrome at Birmingham, about 30th March or beginning of April—I said, "I suppose these bills are given to settle it?"—he smiled, and said, "Yes."</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-73" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-73" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-73" type="surname" value="THACKLEY"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-73" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM THACKLEY</persName> </hi>. On 6th and 7th March I was waiter at the Opera Tavern. I know the defendant—I saw him there on Saturday night,</p>
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<p>6th March, about 12 o'clock I should think—he was drinking—a friend named O'Brien, was with him—Henry Broome was there—I was going in and out of the room, carrying what was wanted—I heard Mr. Sill say to Mr. Broome that he had seen the Secretary of State, who had told him that his brother
<hi rend="italic">Johnny</hi>, if convicted, would be transported—on Sunday, 7th March, he came again, about 2 or 3 in the afternoon, and he called several times afterwards—I heard none of the conversation on the Sunday—he called most every day from 6th March to 30th April—he used to ask me if my master was at home, or whether he had left him any money; and he asked my mistress as well—he was very angry once or twice, and said, if he did not leave it, it would be worse for him—that conversation occurred several times.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-74" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-74" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-74" type="surname" value="BROOME"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-74" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY BROOME</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> This memorandum (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>) is in Sill's writing—it was given to me by him on 6th March (
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>—"London, 6th March, 1852. Memorandum, that Henry Broome has delivered to me a bill of exchange, drawn by him on, and accepted by John Broome for 240
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., dated the 6th day of March instant, at four months, as collateral security for two bills of exchange, dated 17th February last, each for 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.; drawn by John Hamp, and endorsed by the said John Broome and Henry Broome; and which bill, for 240
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I undertake to return to the said Henry Broome, on payment of the said two bills for 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. each. Richard Sill.")</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-75" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-75" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-75" type="surname" value="SHERMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-75" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SHERMAN</persName> </hi>. I know John Broome and the defendant—I was one of the witnesses examined at Brighton against Staven and James, in the case that Mr. Sill was acting as the prosecutor's attorney—I first saw Mr. Sill on the subject of that trial in the early part of Aug., 1851—that was the first examination—I saw Mr. Sill first in London, at the Cheshire Cheese, kept by Mr. Lane, in Marquis-court, Drury-lane—a man named Watkins was with him, and Mr. Hamp, Mr. Jones, the landlord, and Mr. Doyle, the barrister—they were talking the matter over before I went in; and we went from the Cheshire Cheese down to his office—Mr. Hamp said Mr. Sill was go down to Brighton, to get the bills back in the Brighton case—when Mr. Hamp told Sill about the circumstances, he said, "Broome knows nothing about it; he went down with us certainly"—Sill said, "Certainly he went down with us, and you must put him in with them, because he is a monied man, and be can pay the expenses"—on other occasions I have had conversations with Sill about John Broome, when he was in the country, at Bacton, in Herefordshire, where Mr. Hamp lives—that was in Christmas week—he said he could get a good sum of money out of the prosecution, and I was foolish if I did not get the same too—I said I should not do anything of the sort, and told him I knew very well that Mr. Broome was innocent—he said, "Innocent or not, it matters very little; it is what the world thinks of him after what I have done"—afterwards, on 16th March, I attended the trial at the Lewes Assizes—I was bound over to prosecute—I saw Sill on that occasion in the passage of the White Hart, opposite the Court-house—he said he had got a good sum of money and bills out of
<hi rend="italic">Harry</hi> Broome; why did not I have some too; and he said, "You will be of great assistance to me if you can persuade him that I have got power with the Secretary of State, as he can transport his brother John"—he said if I could do that, and he could get some more bills for 300
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>., I was to
<hi rend="italic">stand</hi> in, and have one-third—I said I should not do anything of the sort, and said he was quite aware Mr. Hamp had told him that John Broome was innocent of the charge—he said he had completely frightened
<hi rend="italic">Harry</hi> Broome by telling him he had seen the Secretary of State, and I was to keep to the same tale—I did not agree to do anything of the sort.</p>
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<p>The Right Hon.
<hi rend="smallCaps">S.H. WALPOLE</hi>. I am Her Majesty's Secretary of State; I became so on 27th Feb., this year; I was so on 6th March, and have con
<lb/>tinued so. I do not think I ever saw Mr. Sill before—I saw no one at my office who represented himself as Mr. Sill, an attorney, to my recollection—I have seen the card-cheating case at Brighton mentioned in the newspapers, but have not heard of it in any other way—I do not think Mr. Sill ever called on me, or saw me, in reference to any indictment against Mr. Broome and others, for cheating at cards at Brighton; as far as my recollection serves me, he never did—I did not tell Sill that John Broome could be, or would be, trans
<lb/>ported—to the best of my memory, I never saw him—I never told anybody that John Broome could be transported.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> There are two Secretaries of State besides yourself?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Two under secretaries, Mr. Waddington is one, he would be the one who would ordinarily see persons on such a subject—if there were any papers on the subject they would come through him to me, and I might see the parties, or might not—there are two other principal Secretaries of State besides myself.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Is one Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, Lord Malmesbury—he does not take cognizance of card cheating cases at Brighton; and the other is Secretary of State for the Colonies—Brighton is not a colony—Mr. Waddington communicates with me on the affairs of the office regularly every day—he has never made any communication to me about John Broome being transported—the only communication he made to me on the subject was, that he was subpœnaed to attend on this trial—I am not aware whether Mr. Waddington is here, he had not come to the office when I came away—it would not be the usual course for Mr. Waddington to have communication with parties before a trial.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-76" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-76" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-76" type="surname" value="SHERMAN"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-76" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN SHERMAN</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were you charged by Sill with having made a perjured affidavit?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I saw a report in the paper about the witnesses not being worthy of belief, and me among them—I read it in the Brighton paper that he said it before the Magistrates at Brighton—I am an attorney's clerk—I have not a master; I am a clerk out of a situation—I have not got an attorney—it is twelve months last April since I had an attorney for a master—I was staying in the country with Mr. Hamp until the last assizes—that is the gentleman who is supposed to have been cheated—I went down with him to stay at his house as companion—it was not to keep him out of mischief, nor as lawyer's clerk, merely as a convivial friend, that was all—the place is dull, as Mr. Sill knows, he staid there a week along with me—I have no other means of living except staying with Mr. Hamp—I am out of a situation at present—the last place I was in was Messrs. Brydges, Mason, and Brydges, of Red Lion-square—I left them last April twelve months—it was because I staid away—no money went away—I never heard of any money being missing—I was never charged in connection with any missing money—I was away a week with a gentleman from the country, and I sent in a sick note; they found out it was not the fact, and dismissed me—I did not introduce Hamp to
<hi rend="italic">Johnny</hi> Broome's house—I saw
<hi rend="italic">Johnny</hi> Broome about once or twice before in my lifetime—I was keeping company with Hamp in London—I was with him in London at Broome's—I never played cards there with him—I went down to Brighton with him on the occasion on which he was plundered—nobody was present when these com
<lb/>munications were made to me by Sill.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long have you known young Mr. Hamp?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Several years, I knew him when I lived in the country—he used to come to</p>
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<p>my house—he is a countryman of mine—we are both Herefordshire men—his father is a banker—he was in his father's hank two years—he did not like being in the business, and is doing nothing at present—I was with Messrs. Brydges and Mason about two years—I was examined on the trial of Staven and James—I gave evidence against them, and they were convicted.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-77" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-77" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-77" type="surname" value="DUNN"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-77" type="given" value="HENRY BIDWELL"/>HENRY BIDWELL DUNN</persName> </hi>. I am an attorney—this is Mr. Sill's bill of costs against Mr. Hamp (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>)—he delivered it to me—I was at that time acting as attorney to Mr. Hamp—the total amount is 346
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.— 120
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. had been paid before it was placed in my hands—85
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. by Mr. Hamp, and the balance by Mr. John Broome; and on taxation, 185
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was taken off—he claimed 226
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and the Master gave him 34
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-78" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-78" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-78" type="surname" value="ROBINSON"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-78" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES ROBINSON</persName> </hi>. I paid Mr. Sill 34
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. on behalf of Mr. Pritchard, of Hereford, to whom I am agent—he is the family solicitor.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-779-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.—</rs>
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<interp inst="t18520816-779-punishment-15" type="punishmentCategory" value="noPunish"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-779-punishment-15" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="sentenceRespited"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-779-18520816 t18520816-779-punishment-15"/>
<hi rend="italic">Judgment Respited.</hi> </rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Recorder, and the Third Jury.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>780.
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<interp inst="def1-780-18520816" type="surname" value="WOOD"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MOSES WIN WOOD</hi> </persName>
<rs id="t18520816-780-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
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<interp inst="t18520816-780-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="pocketpicking"/>, stealing 1 handkerchief, value 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; the goods of
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-80" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-80" type="surname" value="STEVENS"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-780-offence-1 t18520816-name-80"/>Matthew Stevens</persName>, from his person.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. RYLAND</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-81" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-81" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-81" type="surname" value="STEVENS"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-81" type="given" value="MATTHEW"/>MATTHEW STEVENS</persName> </hi>. I am a ship's joiner, and live at Leonard-row, Bromley, Middlesex. On 1st Aug. I was in Petticoat-lane, about 11 o'clock, I felt a tug at my pocket, turned round, and saw the prisoner with my hand
<lb/>kerchief in his hand—I held him with one band, and seized the handkerchief with the other—a policeman came, I gave the prisoner in charge, and found my handkerchief in a hat which he held before him—this is my handkerchief (
<hi rend="italic">produced</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was not there a man running away?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; it was impossible to run, it was so crowded—he had a cap on his bead, and held the bat against his bosom, and the handkerchief hung out of it—he begged of me to let him go, and said he would not do so again—I was perfectly sober.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner was further charged with having been before convicted.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-82" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN LEONARD</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 621). I produce a certificate from Mr. Clark's office (
<hi rend="italic">read—"Lewis Woolfe, convicted Dec, 1850, of stealing a purse and money from the person. Confined Three Months the last week solitary.</hi>)"—I was present—the prisoner is the person.</p>
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<p>781.
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-781-offence-1 t18520816-name-84"/>Edmund Deacon</persName>.</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-85" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-85" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-85" type="given" value="EDMUND"/>EDMUND DEACON</persName> </hi>. I am a painter, of 66, Sun-street,; my wife carries on the straw bonnet business. On Aug. 5, about half past 9 o'clock at night, I was sitting in my back parlour—I could see into the shop, and saw the pri
<lb/>soner and a man helping themselves to the bonnets—the man took three bonnets from the counter, and gave them to the prisoner—there was nobody in the shop—I went in and disturbed them—the man ran away, and the prisoner took the bonnets to the opposite side of the way into a court, and threw them down—I called out to her to stop—she stood on the other side of the court, trying to hide herself—I wanted her to pick them up; she would not—I picked them up—she ran down Sun-street, and I followed her, and did not lose sight of her at all—I am sure she is the same woman—there was also a bonnet shape and a hat—the man took them; they were my property,</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-86" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-86" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-86" type="surname" value="FISHER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-86" type="given" value="JAMES"/>JAMES FISHER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 672). I followed the prisoner into Long-alley, and took charge of her; she was running away—I received these bonnets from Mr. Deacon.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-781-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-781-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-781-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. (
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner was further charged with having been twice before convicted.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-87" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-87" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-87" type="surname" value="HALE"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-87" type="given" value="WILLIAM HENRY"/>WILLIAM HENRY HALE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 625). I was present at the pri
<lb/>soner's trial at Clerkenwell Sessions, and produce a certificate—(
<hi rend="italic">read—Clerk
<lb/>enwell, Oct.</hi>, 1851,
<hi rend="italic">Mary Wilson, Convicted on her own confession of stealing bacon; having been before convicted—Confined Nine Months</hi>).</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-88" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-88" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-88" type="surname" value="BISHOP"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-88" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM BISHOP</persName> </hi>. I know the prisoner—I was present at Clerkenwell Sessions on 6th Nov., 1849, when she was tried for stealing two stockings, value 9
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she had three months—she has also been summarily convicted of stealing an image.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">GUILTY</hi>. Aged 39.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-781-18520816 t18520816-781-punishment-17"/>Transported for Seven Yeats</rs> </hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>782.
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<interp inst="def2-782-18520816" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="def2-782-18520816" type="surname" value="WEBB"/>
<interp inst="def2-782-18520816" type="given" value="HANNAH"/> HANNAH WEBB</persName> </hi>, and
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<interp inst="def3-782-18520816" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="def3-782-18520816" type="surname" value="BURKE"/>
<interp inst="def3-782-18520816" type="given" value="MARY"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY BURKE</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18520816-782-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="theft"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-782-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="simpleLarceny"/>, stealing 1 pair of boots and 1 pair of shoes, value 10
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-92" type="surname" value="SHORT"/>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-782-offence-1 t18520816-name-92"/>William Short</persName>: Loader having been before convicted: to which Loader pleaded</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-782-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-782-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-782-18520816 t18520816-782-punishment-18"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-93" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-93" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS GODDARD</persName> </hi>. I am shopman to William Short, the executor of Mrs. Howard. On 1st July, about half past 1 o'clock, I saw the three pri
<lb/>soners together at the window; it is a pawnbroker's shop—directly they were gone I missed a pair of boots and a pair of shoes from a little stall in the street under the window—I did not see either of them touch the boots.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-94" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-94" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-94" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WALLER</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 121). The prisoners were described to me, and I went up Golden-lane to look after them—I found Loader there alone, and asked her what she had got—she said, "Nothing"—she had a shawl on, and I saw her arm up; I put my hand under her arm and found one pair of boots, she dropped another pair—I saw the other two pairs about fifty yards off—Burke went away when I stopped Loader; I sent a constable after her; we met Webb coming up Golden-lane.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-95" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-95" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-95" type="surname" value="TAYLOR"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-95" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM TAYLOR</persName> </hi>. I am a glass-cutter, of Collier-court, Golden-lane. I know the prisoners by sight—I was passing the shop, and saw them looking in at the window; Loader took a pair of boots from a little shelf underneath, put them under her arm, and covered them with her shawl; in a minute or two afterwards she took a pair of shoes, and put them under her apron—I did not see the other prisoners do anything.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Burke.</hi> I was not with her when she took the boots.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> You were with them, I am sure.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-96" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-96" type="surname" value="GODDAR"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-96" type="given" value="FRANCIS"/>FRANCIS GODDAR</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> These boots and shoes are the property of William Short, the executor of the late Mrs. Howard—here if the private mark on them.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Webb's Defence.</hi> I know nothing about it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Burke's Defence.</hi> I had nothing to do with the boots; I don't associate with her; I never was in her company half an hour in my life.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">Webb received a good character.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WEBB</hi> and
<hi rend="largeCaps">BURKE</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">NEW COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Tuesday, August</hi> 17
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1852.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MOON</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt., Ald.; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">CUBITT</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Russell Gurney, Esq., and the Sixth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-783-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<interp inst="t18520816-783-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 26.—
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<p>784.
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<interp inst="def1-784-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-784-18520816" type="age" value="19"/>
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<interp inst="def1-784-18520816" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM JACKSON</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18520816-784-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-784-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-784-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-784-18520816 t18520816-784-punishment-20"/>Confined Two Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>785.
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<interp inst="t18520816-785-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-785-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<p>786.
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<interp inst="def1-786-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-786-18520816" type="age" value="31"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-786-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for a like offence: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-786-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-786-18520816 t18520816-786-punishment-22"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>787.
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<interp inst="def1-787-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES CAHILL</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18520816-787-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-787-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 27.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-787-18520816 t18520816-787-punishment-23"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>788.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CLARA HATCH</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18520816-788-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="concealingABirth"/>, unlawfully concealing the birth of her child; to which she pleaded</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-788-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-788-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-788-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 25.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-788-18520816 t18520816-788-punishment-24"/>Confined One Month</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>789.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM KELLY</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18520816-789-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-104" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-104" type="given" value="CORDELIA"/>CORDELIA BROWN</persName> </hi>. I live with my sister, Mrs. Meager, who keeps a beer shop in the East India-road. On the morning of 2nd July, I was at the beer shop between 7 and 8 o'clock; the prisoner came in and asked for half a pint of beer, and a screw of tobacco, they came to 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me a half crown, I gave him 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—I laid the half crown on a shelf behind where I was standing—the prisoner did not remain a minute in the shop after he had got his change—my sister was standing by me, and after the prisoner was gone, she looked at the half crown, and said, "You have taken another had half crown"—she put it under a glass in the bar parlour—there was no one there but my sister and me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner. Q.</hi> Do you make a common practice of putting money on the shelf?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> We frequently do—my sister noticed you, I did not—you had a cap on, with a piece torn out of it—I did not notice you so much, I gave you your change, and you were gone.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-105" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-105" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-105" type="surname" value="MEAGER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-105" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH MEAGER</persName> </hi>. I keep this beer shop in the East India-road. I was at home on the morning of 7th July—I recollect my sister receiving half a crown from the prisoner—I will swear to him—I looked at the half crown before the prisoner had been gone half a minute—I said, "He has given you a bad half crown"—I took it into the bar parlour, and put it under a glass—I was at home between 4 and 5 o'clock the same afternoon, and the prisoner came for a pint of porter—he gave me a half crown; I bent it while he was In the shop—I went round, shut the door, put the chain up, and sent for a policeman—when I shut the door the prisoner said, "Let me look at the half crown I gave you"—I said, "I shall not, I will leave that for the police
<lb/>man" —he said, "You need not fasten the door, I will not run away"—I</p>
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<p>said, "I will take care you shall not"—no one had access to the place where I bad placed the half crown, there was no one in the house but me, my sister, and the potboy.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-106" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-106" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-106" type="surname" value="BRAIN"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-106" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN BRAIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, K</hi> 268). I was called, and took the prisoner—I produce two half crowns which I received from Mrs. Meager—I searched the prisoner, and found on him two good shillings—I produce 1
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 8
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; he had 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of refreshment—he had a cap in his pocket, and a tobacco-box.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-107" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-107" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-107" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-107" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. I am inspector of coin to the Royal Mint—these half crowns are both counterfeits.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> For the last three years I have been employed in the East India Docks, having a good character from captains that I have served under; on the day in question I went to the docks, but there being a crowd of 2,000 or 3,000 men, I could not get near enough to answer to my name, and was not employed; I waited till half-past 9 o'clock, and then went in to get my wages, which was 17
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. for five days and fifteen hours; I received a half sovereign, and three half crowns; this was about 10, and I positively deny being in the prosecutrix's house; on my way home, I redeemed some clothes from pawn, I gave the half sovereign and received two half crowns and some halfpence; I have a brother in the American ser
<lb/>vice; his ship was in the docks; I went that evening to see him, and went in the prosecutrix's house, and called for a pint of porter; I tendered a half crown, and stood at the bar to see if my brother came out of the docks—the prosecutrix came behind me, and said, "I have got you, this is the second one to day, I know you by your cap; "I deny that I was in the house that day; the cap I had on had nothing particular about it; she did not know my person, she was evidently confused. and acted under excited feelings; she has mistaken the party who passed it; the half crown I gave In the afternoon was one of George III. 1818, and is such as any man not well acquainted with money might take for good; I told her not to shut the door and neg
<lb/>lect business, as I would not stir from the place; I declare myself innocent of passing the half crown, knowing it to be bad.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-789-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>.* Aged 38.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-789-18520816 t18520816-789-punishment-25"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>790.
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<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE FEW</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18520816-790-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-109" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-109" type="given" value="CATHARINE"/>CATHARINE BURK</persName> </hi>. I am servant to Mr. Payne, who keeps a coffee shop, in Shoreditch. On 13th July, about 11 o'clock in the forenoon, the prisoner came in for a cup of coffee, and an egg—I served him—it came to 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he gave me half a crown—I gave him in change two shillings, and the remainder in coppers—I laid the half crown on the mantel piece, in my mis
<lb/>tress's parlour—there was no other half crown there—about 2 the same day the prisoner came again, and I served him with a cup of coffee—he gave half a crown—I gave him change for that, and he went away—I laid that half crown on the top of the other—I found the first one where I had put it—about 6 the same evening the prisoner came again—he had another cup of coffee, and paid me half a crown—(after he bad gone the second time my master had looked at the money)—I gave the half crown which he gave me to my mistress, and he was taken in custody—I did not give him change for the third half crown—I am quite sure the prisoner is the person.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-110" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-110" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-110" type="surname" value="PAYNE"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-110" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY PAYNE</persName> </hi>. I keep the coffee shop. On 13th July I looked at some half crowns on the mantel piece, a little past 2 o'clock—my wife came in just afterwards—I placed them in her hand to put them on one side in the bowl, by the side of the mantel shelf—I observed they were bad.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-111" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-111" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-111" type="surname" value="PAYNE"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-111" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN PAYNE</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Henry Payne. On that Tuesday my husband called my attention to two half crowns as soon as I came in—they were placed in a bowl, where they remained till 6 o'clock—the prisoner came in, and Catharine Burk brought me another half crown—it was bad—I took it in the coffee shop, and showed it to the prisoner—I said, "This is the third time you have passed one here to day"—he said, "It is the first time I have been in your coffee shop"—I sent for a policeman, and gave the prisoner in charge—I gave the half crown which had just been given me by my servant to the policeman, and the other two which I took from the bowl.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-112" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-112" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-112" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-112" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are all counterfeit, and two of them are from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> The mistress says she took the two half crowns from the bowl, and her husband took them out; if I had known they had been bad, I could have taken them and made away with them; I could have escaped from the shop.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-790-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-790-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 27.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-790-18520816 t18520816-790-punishment-26"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>791.
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<interp inst="def1-791-18520816" type="given" value="SARAH"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SARAH WILLIAMS</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<interp inst="t18520816-791-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-791-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/> for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-114" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-114" type="surname" value="NEALE"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-114" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN NEALE</persName> </hi>. I am a baker, and live in Cannon-street, St. George's in the East. On 24th July, about 7 o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came and asked for a 21b. loaf—she gave me a bad half crown—I asked her where she got it—she said her husband came home drunk and gave it her—I went to get my hat, and she got out—I went out but could not find her—I told a policeman what had occurred—I marked the half crown, and gave it him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-115" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-115" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-115" type="surname" value="COOK"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-115" type="given" value="BENJAMIN"/>BENJAMIN COOK</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman</hi>, 147
<hi rend="italic">K</hi>). I received the half crown on 24th July, from Mr. Neale.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-116" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-116" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-116" type="surname" value="FENNER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-116" type="given" value="ELIZABETH"/>ELIZABETH FENNER</persName> </hi>. I live with Mr. Jordan, a baker, in Back-road, St George's. On 24th July the prisoner came for a half quartern loaf—it came to 2 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—she gave me a half crown—I tried it in the rack, and found it was bad —I called Mr. Jordan, and give it him—the prisoner was in the shop at the time.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-117" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-117" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-117" type="surname" value="JORDAN"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-117" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY JORDAN</persName> </hi>. On the evening of 24th July Fenner gave me the half crown —the prisoner was in the shop at the time—the half crown was bad—I asked the prisoner where she got it from—she said she had it from her brother—I called an officer, and gave her in charge—I gave the officer the half crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-118" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-118" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-118" type="surname" value="MANNING"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-118" type="given" value="WILLIAM FRANCIS"/>WILLIAM FRANCIS MANNING</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, K</hi> 265). I took the prisoner, and have the half crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-119" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-119" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-119" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-119" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both bad, and from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Prisoner's Defence.</hi> I am a widow, and have four fatherless children; having had the misfortune to have another by my lodger, who has deserted me; he told me if I would meet him he would give me some money; he gave me a had half crown; I went back, and told him it was bad; he said, with an oath, he would go and get it back; he gave me another; I went to the shop, and was given into custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-791-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-791-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-791-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 45.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-791-18520816 t18520816-791-punishment-27"/>Confined Four Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>792.
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<interp inst="def1-792-18520816" type="given" value="JOHN"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN HUGHES</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18520816-792-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-792-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-792-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-121" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-121" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-121" type="surname" value="BREMNER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-121" type="given" value="EMMA"/>EMMA BREMNER</persName> </hi>. My father was a baker; he is dead; my mother carries</p>
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<p>on business in Piccadilly, her name is Harriett. On 13th July the prisoner came, between 7 and 8 o'clock in the evening—he bought an article which came to 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—he paid with a shilling—I gave him change, and he left—I found the shilling was bad, and put it in the till with the copper money—the next evening the prisoner came again; he bought two biscuits, and gave another shilling—I tried it in the detector, and found it bad; I told the pri
<lb/>soner he was the same man who had passed a bad shilling the day before—he said he had never been in the shop before—I am sure he is the same man—I found the first shilling in the same place where I had put it—there was one other bad shilling there—the policeman came and took the shilling.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. SLEIGH</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Was the other bad shilling in the same place?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I had taken it two or three weeks before—I did not mark it—I did not mark the one I first took of the prisoner till I got to the station—I could distinguish the shilling first given me by the prisoner from the other, because I bent it rather more—I do not remember that I had ever seen the prisoner before the night of 13th July, but my sister does—on the evening the prisoner first came he was in the shop two or three minutes—I cannot remember whether I had any conversation with him—I am sure that the man that came on the 14th was the same man who came on the 13th—I knew him the moment he came in the shop—I served him when he came on the 14th, because I did not know that he had brought a bad shilling then; but I knew him before I tried the shilling—this is the shilling I received from him first—I marked it at the station house—I have not got the other shilling here—I do not know of what reign it was—from my knowledge of the two shillings I can venture to say positively, on my oath, that this is the shilling passed to me by the prisoner, and the one that is now in the till is not the one given by the prisoner—I have no means of knowing them, but that one is more bent than the other.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> About three weeks before you had taken another bad shilling, was your sister there at that time?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I cannot remember; my sister assists in the business as well as myself—I was the person who put the first shilling in the till amongst the copper money—when I took the second bad shilling and put it in the till, I was able to distinguish it, because I had bent it rather more—when he came with the second shilling on the 14th, I tried the shilling, and gave it him back—he paid with a good shilling.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-122" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-122" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-122" type="surname" value="BREMNER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-122" type="given" value="ISABELLA"/>ISABELLA BREMNER</persName> </hi>. I live at the shop in Piccadilly. I have seen the prisoner many times at our shop before 13th July—I saw him there on 14th July.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-123" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-123" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-123" type="surname" value="JACKSON"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-123" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT JACKSON</persName> </hi>. I am a stationer, in Archer-street, Haymarket. On 14th July the prisoner came to my shop for a "London Journal"; I served him—he gave me a bad shilling—I turned round for the purpose of getting change, and at the same time I put the shilling between my teeth, I found it was bad—I said to him, "This is a bad shilling"—he said, "I am sure I am not aware of it, I took it at the Bull's Head"—I went with him to the Bull's Head; I said to the barman, "This person has been round to my place, and tendered me a bad shilling, which he says he obtained from this house"—the barman denied all knowledge of him, and said he had no bad money from there—the prisoner said nothing—I saw a constable passing, I called him, and gave the prisoner into custody—I gave the shilling to the officer at the station—the price of the "London Journal" was a penny.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-124" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-124" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-124" type="surname" value="WINDSOR"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-124" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WINDSOR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, C</hi> 63). I was called by Mr. Jackson, and received this shilling from him; I also received this one from Miss Bremner—I searched the prisoner at the station, and found on him a bag containing</p>
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<p>two biscuits, with Mr. Bremner's name on the bag, and I went there—I found on the prisoner two sixpences and sixpenny worth of coppers, all good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-125" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-125" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-125" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-125" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two shillings are counterfeit.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The 'prisoner received a good character.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-792-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-792-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-792-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 56.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18520816-792-punishment-28" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-792-punishment-28" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-792-18520816 t18520816-792-punishment-28"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>793.
<persName id="def1-793-18520816" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-793-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-793-18520816" type="age" value="20"/>
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<interp inst="def1-793-18520816" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">GEORGE HANSTILL</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18520816-793-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-793-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-793-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-127" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-127" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-127" type="surname" value="WHITE"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-127" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS WHITE</persName> </hi>. I keep the Salutation, in Princes-street, Blackfrian. On 21st June the prisoner came there dressed as he is now, as a sailor—he called for a pint of porter, and gave a half crown—I tried it, and found it bad; I asked him where he got it—he said from his shipmate, on board a ship at St. Katharine's Docks—he afterwards said it was at the West India Docks, and he came from Switzerland—I asked him the name of the ship—he said he did not know—I sent for an officer, and gave him the half crown.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-128" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-128" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-128" type="surname" value="LAMBERT"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-128" type="given" value="ROBERT"/>ROBERT LAMBERT</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, L</hi> 121). I took the prisoner, and received this half crown—I asked him where he got it—he said from a man named
<hi rend="italic">Jack</hi>, at St. Katharine's Docks—he said as he had got no money
<hi rend="italic">Jack</hi> gave him the half crown to get some beer with—the prisoner was discharged on that.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-129" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-129" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-129" type="surname" value="LUCAS"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-129" type="given" value="THOMAS WILLIAM"/>THOMAS WILLIAM LUCAS</persName> </hi>. I am a tobacconist, and live at Hammersmith. On 8th July the prisoner came to my shop, between 8 and 9 o'clock in the evening for two penny cigars—I gave them to him—he gave me half a crown—I saw it was bad, but I gave him the change, and said nothing about it—I put on my hat and followed him, to see if he passed any more—he turned down by the Black Lion, which leads out of the main road—he did not call anywhere, but came round into the main road, and went on his way towards town—I spoke to a constable—I afterwards saw the prisoner getting on an omnibus, and the constable took him—I kept the half crown in my hand till I got to the station—I marked it, and gave it to the constable—when the prisoner came back into the main road he went into one shop and had a pie, and into another shop and had some porter.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-130" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-130" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-130" type="surname" value="MILLAR"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-130" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE MILLAR</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police sergeant, T</hi> 46). I received information and followed the prisoner—he went into a pastrycook's shop and had a bun, for which he paid 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and he went into a public house and had half a pint of porter, for which he paid 1
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.; I was looking through the windows and saw him—I took him as he was getting on an omnibus—he was smoking one of the cigars—I found on him 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in silver and 3
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>.—I told him I took him for uttering a counterfeit half crown—he said, "I know nothing about it; I had it from my shipmate where I was paid off"—I think he said at Portsmouth.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-131" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-131" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-131" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-131" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both counterfeit.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-793-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-793-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-793-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 20.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18520816-793-punishment-29" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-793-punishment-29" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-793-18520816 t18520816-793-punishment-29"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="t18520816-794" type="uri" value="sessionsPapers/18520816"/>
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<join result="criminalCharge" id="t18520816-794-charge-1" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-794-18520816 t18520816-794-offence-1 t18520816-794-verdict-1"/>
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<p>794.
<persName id="def1-794-18520816" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def1-794-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def1-794-18520816" type="age" value="22"/>
<interp inst="def1-794-18520816" type="surname" value="JONES"/>
<interp inst="def1-794-18520816" type="given" value="JAMES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JAMES JONES</hi> </persName> and
<persName id="def2-794-18520816" type="defendantName">
<interp inst="def2-794-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="def2-794-18520816" type="age" value="26"/>
<interp inst="def2-794-18520816" type="surname" value="SIMPSON"/>
<interp inst="def2-794-18520816" type="given" value="CHARLES"/>
<hi rend="largeCaps">CHARLES SIMPSON</hi> </persName> were indicted for
<rs id="t18520816-794-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-794-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-794-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-134" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-134" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-134" type="surname" value="GODDARD"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-134" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY GODDARD</persName> </hi>. I keep the White Horse, at Twickenham. On 13th July Mr. Adney, a baker, came to my house in the afternoon, and in conse
<lb/>quence of what he told me I went out and saw the prisoners and another man standing at the Crown—two of them, but I cannot say which two, went into the Crown—when they came out they all joined company again—they stood talking a few minutes and then came down the road, shifting hands from one to the other as if they were passing something from one to the other, to the</p>
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<p>Rising Son, and the two prisoners went in there—the third man walked on to the meadows smoking his pipe—I went into the Rising Sun, which is kept by Mrs. Penycook—the two prisoners were at the bar, and she was serving them—I called her out and told her what I suspected—I saw Jones give her half crown—she handed it to me—I saw it was bad, and told her not to give change—I went to the door, called a policeman, and the prisoners were given in charge—I gave the half crown to the policeman—while he was searching Jones, Simpson seemed very much agitated, and as if he wanted to make away with something—he went into the parlour and sat himself down in a corner just by the door—I went away, and helped the policeman to search Jones—I assisted in taking the prisoners to Richmond—I told a young man to watch Simpson that he made away with nothing—Simpson said, "It it too late now, if I had anything; I had twenty chances to make away with it", and he said that Jones had been before to the Swan and offered the half crown, and it had been refused.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Jones. Q.</hi> You say you saw me give the half crown to the landlady; you were in the parlour?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I was at the bar door—as soon at she gave it me I saw it was bad—I walked in at the back door as you did at the front—I said, from the description I bad had, I suspected you were uttering bad money—there was no one in the house but yourselves and the landlady and the maid and Clark.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-135" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-135" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-135" type="surname" value="PENYCOOK"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-135" type="given" value="LUCY"/>LUCY PENYCOOK</persName> </hi>. I keep the Rising Sun, at Twickenham. On the evening of 13th July, Jones came into my house—Mr. Goddard came in at the back door, at the time I was serving Jones with a glass of half and half and a cheroot—he threw down a half crown—I just put it inside the till, and was going to give him change—Mr. Goddard beckoned roe out, and told me to be cautious what money I took—there was no other half crown than that in the till, I am quite sure—I showed the half crown to Mr. Goddard; he said directly it was bad—I told Jones it was bad, and he threw me down a good one—at the time I was serving Jones, Simpson was at the bar—he asked for a glass of ale, which my servant served him with—when Mr. Goddard said the half crown was bad I left it with him, and he gave it to the policeman—I did not get it again—the prisoners were taken into custody—after they were gone Hatton gave me a half crown—I was going to send it to the station, but they were coming back and I gave it to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Simpson.</hi> I did not come in as soon as the other man did.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> I did not see you till after I saw him—I saw Clark and another man stop you from going out—I did not see you in the parlour; I did not leave the bar—I cannot remember whether Hatton told me that the half crown he gave me was bad, but I saw it was bad.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-136" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-136" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-136" type="surname" value="TURNER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-136" type="given" value="JEMIMA"/>JEMIMA TURNER</persName> </hi>. I was in the bar of the Rising Sun when the prisoners came in—I was serving Simpson—when the policeman came in, and was searching Jones, Simpson went into the parlour, and sat down just by the door, in a place where there is an elbow—there was no one else in the parlour at the time—he did not remain there more than two minutes—I had dusted that place ten minutes or quarter of an hour before—I saw no half-crown there—if there had been a half crown I should have seen it—I did not see any one go into that place, except Simpson, after I dusted it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Simpson. Q.</hi> Did you see Mr. Clark and another man stop me?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I saw Mr. Clark stop you; I went into the parlour with Mr. Clark—I saw you sit in the parlour—I saw Hatton give my mistress a half crown—she showed it to Mr. Clark; to no other person.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-137" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-137" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-137" type="surname" value="HATTON"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-137" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM HATTON</persName> </hi>. I went into the Rising Sun on the evening of</p>
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<p>13th July—the prisoners had been taken away—I went into the parlour, and saw a seat which had an elbow, and on the arm-rest I saw a half-crown—I gave it to the landlady.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Simpson. Q.</hi> Did you mark it?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I did not notice whether it was bad or good—I left then, and went home—I saw a half crown about eight days afterwards—I do not swear that it was the same.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-138" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-138" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-138" type="surname" value="CLARK"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-138" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS CLARK</persName> </hi>. I was at the Rising Sun on 13th July, when the pri
<lb/>soners were there—a constable came in and searched Jones—Simpson seemed very much agitated—I imagine he wanted to throw something away, or to escape—he went into the parlour, and sat down round by the door, in a seat with an elbow-rest—a short time afterwards I received a half crown from Mrs. Penycook—I looked, and saw it was bad—I handed it back—in about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour afterwards the policeman came back from taking the prisoners to the station, and Mrs. Penycook gave him the half crown, after marking it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Simpson. Q.</hi> You took me into custody?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I stopped you; I did not take you by the collar—I laid my hand on you—I said I watched you—I did not state that when Mrs. Penycook gave me the half crown I walked out with it—I did not keep it ten minutes—I did not put it into my pocket—I saw it was bad, and handed it back—it was not out of my sight for a moment—I did not identify the same half crown at the station.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-139" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-139" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-139" type="surname" value="POPPLE"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-139" type="given" value="MILES"/>MILES POPPLE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, V</hi> 50). On 13th July I went into the Rising Sun, and took the prisoners into custody—I searched them both in the house—I found no bad money on them—I found 2
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 3 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money on Jones, and 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 11
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. on Simpson, and a railway return ticket from Waterloo station—I took the prisoners to Richmond station—Simpson gave his address in Charles-street, Lisson-grove—Jones was asked his address, he refused to give it—Simpson said he did not know anything of Jones, but he met him in Twickenham—I took the prisoners to the station, went back to the Rising Sun, and received from Mrs. Penycook this half-crown—Mr. Goddard had given me this other half crown before—I have two other half crowns, which I received from two other houses, through making inquiries.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Simpson. Q.</hi> Who gave you that last half crown?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Mrs. Penycook; I do not know bow many hands it went through—I did not find that you gave good money at the Swan.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-140" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-140" type="gender" value="female"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-140" type="surname" value="PENYCOOK"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-140" type="given" value="LUCY"/>LUCY PENYCOOK</persName> </hi>
<hi rend="italic">re-examined.</hi> No one had the half crown which Hatton brought out of the parlour but me and Clark, before I gave it to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-141" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-141" type="gender" value="male"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-141" type="surname" value="WEBSTER"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-141" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This half crown that was uttered is counterfeit—this one found where Simpson sat is counterfeit, and from the same mould as the one that was uttered by Jones.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Jones' Defence.</hi> I had been down to Hampton Court; I made a pair of trowsers for a servant, and I received two half crowns and a shilling; when I was at Twickenham, I did not know the way to Richmond; I fell in with this prisoner; he said he was going that road; I went in the public house, and in about three minutes Simpson came in; Mrs. Penycook said it was a bad half crown that I gave her; I did not know it; it was one that was given to me.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Simpson's Defence.</hi> I am a shoemaker. On 13th July I went to Twick
<lb/>enham; I called at the Swan public house, and while taking some beer Jones came in, and had some conversation with the landlord about bad money; Mr. Adney, a baker, was at the bar, and told me he had suspicion of Jones; on leaving the house, prompted by idle curiosity, I entered into conversation</p>
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<p>with Jones and another man; I entered the Crown, and had some beer; but Jones having drank pretty freely declined going in; when we came out he was waiting for us; I then went into the Rising Sun, called for a glass of ale, and paid for it with good money; on coming out Clark seized me by the collar, and I was detained for passing bad money; I know nothing of the half crown found in the parlour; I did not put it there, and, according to the evidence of Clark, I could not have done so.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">JONES</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-794-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-794-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-794-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 22.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">SIMPSON</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-794-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 26.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def2-794-18520816 t18520816-794-punishment-30"/>Confined Twelve Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">CLERK</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-144" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-144" type="gender" value="female"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-144" type="given" value="ANN"/>ANN AMBLER</persName> </hi>. My husband is a beer seller, at Shenley. On 8th July the prisoners came to our beer shop together—one of them ordered beer—they both drank—Cahill gave a sixpence for it—before that they had had some beer for which they paid coppers—I found the 6
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. was bad, and told him so—he said it looked bright, and he gave me 1 1/2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in copper—when I said the sixpence was bad, Flanagan said he must give it him again—he did not say who—after they had paid they went away—I am sure they are the men.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-145" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-145" type="given" value="SARAH"/>SARAH YOUNG</persName> </hi>. My husband is a beer seller, at South Mimms. On 8th July the prisoner Cahill canoe for half a pint of beer—he gave me a bad sixpence, and drank the beer—I said, "You know you gave me a bad sixpence"—he said he had taken it of his master—he returned me the 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—he did not give me a penny for the beer—my husband came in—I gave him the sixpence, and he gave the prisoner in custody.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-146" type="witnessName">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-146" type="surname" value="YOUNG"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-name-146" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM YOUNG</persName> </hi>. I am a beer seller, at South Mimms. In the evening of 8th July I saw the prisoners walking together towards my house—we lost sight of them—when I got in my house Cahill was there—my wife gave me a sixpence which she said in his presence he had passed—I marked it, and gave it back to Cahill—he returned the 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. change—he said he had taken this sixpence of his master over the Common—I said I would give him the sixpence if he would take it to his master, and bring me the penny—he went out to go across the Common, as he said to his master—I sent my boy after him—he went till he got out of sight of the house—he then ran in a different direction—I sent another son after him, and he brought him back—I got the sixpence from him—it was the one that had been marked by me—I sent for a policeman, and gave Cahill in charge—I gave the sixpence to the policeman.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Flanagan. Q.</hi> Did you see me in the house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; I lost sight of you—I had followed you about 600 yards, you had got over the stile before I got in the street—there was no one but Cahill with you—there were four persons with me—what made me notice you was you had got a black waist-coat over a dirty smock.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-147" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-147" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-147" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM GODWIN</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, S</hi> 58). I went to Mr. Young's house on Sth July, I found Cahill there in the taproom—Mr. Young gave me this six
<lb/>pence—I took Cahill to the station—I searched him, and found two other sixpences in his left shoe stuck to the bottom of his stocking—Cahill gave me a description of Flanagan—I found on Cahill a file, a farthing, a pencil case, and piece of iron—after taking Cahill, I met Flanagan, and by the description I had I took him into custody—as we were going to the station, he put his hand to his mouth, and something rattled against his teeth like metal—I caught his throat, but he was too quick, and swallowed it—he said</p>
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<p>it was tobacco—I searched him but found nothing—in consequence of information from Cahill I went to a passage by Mr. Young's, and found this packet of plaster of Paris in a paper, covered over; Cahill told me I should find it—I saw the prisoners at the station—they made statements after being cautioned—these are them, my inspector wrote them down correctly—(
<hi rend="italic">read</hi>)—"At the station-house, after having been cautioned, the prisoner Cahill said, 'I met the other prisoner on Wednesday morning, 7th July, about two miles from Barnet; I asked how far Newport was off; he replied it was 146 miles; I came back to Barnet with him; I gave him some bread and meat; we went to look for work, and returned to Barnet in the evening, and I gave him some money to buy things; in the morning we went out, and by the road-side he began to mould some bad money, and when done he gave me thirteen sixpences, out of which I kept two, and gave him back the rest; he afterwards gave me a sixpence to change at a public house in Barnet, which the landlady refused to take, and gave it me back; I then offered the same sixpence at another beer shop in this town, which caused me to be taken into custody'"—"Patrick Flanagan, after being cautioned by me, said, 'John Cahill said to him on Wednesday last, that he had a cousin named Cahill living in Golden-lane, London, a noted coiner, and showed me a bad shilling which he said was one of his cousin's shillings, and that he could get 5
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. of such for 10
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.; he sent a man with a shilling to the White Lion public house, in Barnet, to get some beer, which was drank by us all three; Cahill has uttered one bad sixpence at the Wheat Sheaf, at Shendley-hill, one at a grocer's shop in Green-street, Shenley, for some tobacco, one at a beer shop near the Wheat Sheaf public house, Shenley, which was refused, and I paid in good money; he said he was a
<hi rend="italic">Molly Maguire</hi> man, and was obliged to leave his country for being concerned with others in shooting at three men in Tipperary.'"</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-148" type="given" value="GEORGE"/>GEORGE PEAPELL</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">police-sergeant, S</hi> 28). On Saturday morning, 10th July, in consequence of these statements, I went to Green-street, Shenley—Cahill went with me—he took me to a place where a fire had been lighted by the side of the road—it appeared that a fire had been kindled there—I found in a ditch near there, part of an old cup, and the bowl of a tobacco pipe—on 12th July, as we were going towards Barnet, Cahill made a state
<lb/>ment to me—he pointed across the fields, and said, "That is where the mould was made"—I went and found a quantity of plaster of Paris on the grass, and he stated that there was part of an old bottle which had contained oil, which I found there.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-149" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. This sixpence that was uttered, and the two found in the shoe, are counterfeit, and from the same mould, in all probability a mould made of plaster of Paris.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Flanagan's Defence.</hi> I was in a public house a few miles from Barnet; this man offered a sixpence, and it was refused; he told the landlady he had it from his master; I went out, he followed me; I told him I was going to seek work; he said he was going towards Barnet; I asked him if he knew this sixpence was bad; he said he did, and he had it from a person in London; I was going into Barnet, and he asked me to go and have some refreshment; I said I would not go in and have anything with bad money; I had money myself; I afterwards heard he gave a description of me; I was taken, but the officer found nothing on me; if the inspector were here he would state that he reproved the officer several times, for he told this man what to say against me.</p>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">CAHILL</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-795-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-795-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-795-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 27.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<interp inst="t18520816-795-punishment-31" type="punishmentCategory" value="imprison"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-795-punishment-31" type="punishmentSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>
<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-795-18520816 t18520816-795-punishment-31"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">FLANAGAN</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-795-verdict-2" type="verdictDescription">
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<interp inst="t18520816-795-verdict-2" type="verdictSubcategory" value=""/>NOT GUILTY</rs> </hi>.</p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">THOMAS TAYLOR</hi> </persName>
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<interp inst="t18520816-796-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>, feloniously uttering counterfeit coin; having been before convicted: to which he pleaded</rs> </p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">
<rs id="t18520816-796-verdict-1" type="verdictDescription">
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<interp inst="t18520816-796-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="pleadedGuilty"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 42.—
<hi rend="italic">
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-796-18520816 t18520816-796-punishment-32"/>Confined Two Years</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">MARY CLARY</hi> </persName>
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<p>798.
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<interp inst="def1-798-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">WILLIAM JAMES FROST</hi> </persName> was indicted
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<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-153" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-153" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-153" type="given" value="RICHARD"/>RICHARD LLOYD</persName> </hi>. I am a licensed victualler, and live in Long Acre. On Saturday, 24th July, between 8 and 9 o'clock at night, the prisoner came to my house, and two other persons—the prisoner asked for a quartern of gin—I served him—he tendered in payment a counterfeit half crown—I examined it, found it was bad, and returned it to him—he said, "I know where I took it," and he put it into his waistcoat pocket—he gave me a good half crown—I took two shillings from behind, placed it on the counter, and turned to the copper till to give him 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and while I was doing that the two shillings had disappeared—I put down the 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>., and he said, "Do you call that the proper change out of a half crown for a quartern of gin?"—I said, "Certainly not; but I gave you your change, my good man"—on his denying it, one of the other two persons that were there said to him in an under tone, "You took up the two shillings, and put them in your waistcoat pocket"—I then said, "I will see what you are made of," and called a policeman—the prisoner and his companions then rushed out at another door into the street—when the prisoner came out I seized him and gave him to the policeman—the others got away.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. COOPER</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> In what state did the prisoner appear? had he been drinking?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I think he had; I did not take notice of him—when I put down these two shillings the three persons were all abreast—the policeman found a badge—I thought the prisoner came in to treat the other two men—when he threw the half crown down, and I said it was bad, I think he put it in his waistcoat pocket—he said he knew where he took it.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-154" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-154" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-154" type="given" value="THOMAS"/>THOMAS MOORE</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">policeman, F</hi> 47). I took the prisoner. I found a half crown in his right hand waistcoat pocket and one in his left—I also found in his left pocket a paper which I gave to the inspector—it contained four half crowns—the prisoner said he was a caiman, and had been carrying a gentle
<lb/>man all day till 5 o'clock in the afternoon—I found a badge on him, and 5
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Did you find how long he had been in his master's service as a cabman?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; six or seven months.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-155" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-155" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-155" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These two half-crowns are both counterfeit, and from the same mould—these four in the paper are counterfeit, and amongst them there is one from the same mould as these two, and two of the other three are from the same mould.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> These are pretty good to look at?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; I am quite sure they are not good.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-798-verdict-1" type="verdictCategory" value="guilty"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-798-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 28.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-798-18520816 t18520816-798-punishment-33"/>Confined Six Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<interp inst="def1-799-18520816" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">JOHN THOMAS</hi> </persName> was indicted
<rs id="t18520816-799-offence-1" type="offenceDescription">
<interp inst="t18520816-799-offence-1" type="offenceCategory" value="royalOffences"/>
<interp inst="t18520816-799-offence-1" type="offenceSubcategory" value="coiningOffences"/>for a like offence.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BODKIN</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBINSON</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
<persName id="t18520816-name-157" type="witnessName">
<interp inst="t18520816-name-157" type="gender" value="male"/>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-157" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY MOWAR</persName> </hi>. I am a confectioner, and live in Aldgate. On Monday evening, 28th June, between 7 and 8 o'clock, the prisoner came for 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of pic-nic biscuits—I served him—he gave a half crown—I gave him change, and when he had left I discovered the half-crown was bad—I went out, but could not find the prisoner—I put the half-crown into a piece of paper, and gave it to the policeman the next morning.</p>
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<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PAYNE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How long was the prisoner in the shop?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> About two minutes; he said, "I want 2
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. worth of these"—I came round and got them—he got them and the change, and he went away—I saw him the next morning at the Mansion-house—I did not go there expecting to see him—I went on a similar case, which had occurred the same day—that person got six months—there has been a Session between that time and this—when I went to the Mansion-house I saw the prisoner sitting down—he had his hat on—I said I knew him by his narrow hat-band, his dirty greasy trowsers, and his whiskers—I knew the man directly—he was not an acquaintance of mine at all—I gained such a knowledge of him by his being in my shop that I knew him again—I was obliged to ask him twice before I could make him hear me—the last customer who was in my shop before him was a girl, who had no bonnet on—I had known her before—I cannot describe any other person who came in whom I had not known.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You noticed the prisoner's dress?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; he had a black coat, and he had more whiskers on than he has now—I did not go to the Mansion-house expecting to see him—I have not the least doubt the prisoner is the man.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-158" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY GIRARD</persName> </hi>. I am a cheesemonger, of Aldgate. On 20th June the prisoner and another man came in my shop—the prisoner asked for half an ounce of tobacco, and his companion wanted two penny pickwicks, but I did not sell them—the tobacco came to three halfpence—the prisoner threw down a half crown, which was good—I put it in a drawer about two inches deep and sixteen wide—while I was giving the prisoner change, the other man said, "I will pay for the tobacco, give him his half crown back"—I took the half crown out of the till, where I had placed it carefully by itself, as I had a suspicion—I gave it to the prisoner—his companion then fumbled in his pocket for a minute, and he said, "You must pay for it now, for I have not any money;" and the prisoner threw down a bad half crown—I said, "My suspicions are realized, this is bad; I suspected what you were doing"—the prisoner went out—I sent out my wife for a policeman, and I gave the half crown to him.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Were there other half crowns in the till?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; and other silver—the half crown I took from the prisoner I put in the till by itself—I had not exactly shut the till—I do not know how many half crowns I had in the till; it might have been two or three.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-159" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM ROLLS</persName> </hi> (
<hi rend="italic">City-policeman</hi>, 636). I was sent for and took the prisoner and the other man into custody—I took them to the station—I found on the other man 4
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. 4
<hi rend="italic">d</hi>. in good money, and on the prisoner one penny and some tobacco—on the Wednesday afterwards I took the prisoner and the other man to the Mansion-house, and they were remanded—on taking them from the Justice-room to the Compter, at the top of Cheapside, the prisoner slipped the iron and got away—he was recaptured on 4th July—the other man was discharged.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Was the prisoner intoxicated when you took him?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not think he was; he pretended to be intoxicated—when I searched him he reeled about, but he walked very well in the street—he was rather violent at the station.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-160" type="given" value="WILLIAM"/>WILLIAM WEBSTER</persName> </hi>. These are both countefeit.</p>
<p>(
<hi rend="italic">The prisoner received a good character; but two officers stated that he had been convicted, and had three months for stealing a handkerchief, and had been associated with persons passing bad money.</hi>)</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-799-verdict-1" type="verdictSubcategory" value="no_subcategory"/>GUILTY</rs> </hi>. Aged 35.—
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-799-18520816 t18520816-799-punishment-34"/>Confined Eighteen Months</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<hi rend="largeCaps">OLD COURT</hi>.—
<hi rend="italic">Wednesday, August</hi> 18
<hi rend="italic">th</hi>, 1852.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="largeCaps">PRESENT</hi>—The
<hi rend="smallCaps">LORD MAYOR</hi>; Mr.
<hi rend="smallCaps">JUSTICE TALFOURD</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">HUM
<lb/>PHERY</hi>; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">MOON</hi>; Sir
<hi rend="smallCaps">ROBERT WALTER CARDEN</hi>, Knt. Ald.; Mr. Ald.
<hi rend="smallCaps">CUBIT</hi>; and
<hi rend="smallCaps">RUSSELL GURNEY</hi>, Esq.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Before Mr. Justice Talfourd, and the Fourth Jury.</hi> </p>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. Bank of England notes;</rs>
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<hi rend="italic">l</hi>. bank note, and 10 10
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<p>(
<hi rend="italic">Mr. Godfrey, of Charles-street, Hackney-road; Douglas Robertson, baker, of Cambridge-heath; and Peter Kennedy, perfumer, of Queen's-place, Cam
<lb/>bridge-heath, deposed to his good character.</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BODKIN</hi>,
<hi rend="italic">for the prosecution, stated that the loss sustained through the prisoner was, at least</hi>, 1,000
<hi rend="italic">l</hi>.)</p>
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<join result="defendantPunishment" targOrder="Y" targets="def1-800-18520816 t18520816-800-punishment-35"/>Transported for Ten Years</rs>.</hi> </p> </div1>
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<join result="offenceVictim" targOrder="Y" targets="t18520816-801-offence-1 t18520816-name-165"/>James Betteridge</persName>, with intent to injure and defraud the Monarch Fire Insurance Company.</rs> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MESSRS. BALLANTINE</hi>
<hi rend="italic">and</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">BARNARD</hi>
<hi rend="italic">conducted the Prosecution.</hi> </p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-166" type="given" value="HENRY"/>HENRY JUDGE</persName> </hi>. I was shopman to the prisoner, at his shop in Upper Whitecross-street. I entered his service on 11th June, 1851—he had not another shop at that time, he had afterwards in Chapel-street, Islington—I remember a fire happening at the shop in Whitecross-street on 24th June—previous to that fire the prisoner had spoken to me about a fire being likely to happen—it was four or five weeks before, I cannot exactly say—he talked about his wanting to get some money, and said he was in difficulty—it was something to that effect, that he wanted to get some money somehow or other, and he thought it would be best to fire the place and get some money from the Insurance office—he conversed with me on that subject more than once; he used to speak very frequently of it—I do not remember exactly the words he might have used, but he was frequently speaking that he intended to fire the place, and they were making preparations for it—he directed me to pull down some of the ceiling in the front cellar—that was the portion of the cellar under the end of the counter, near the back of the front cellar—that was the night before the fire—no one was present when he gave me that direction—I pulled down the ceiling that same evening, and put it into a bag and carried it away, and shot it behind Pickford's wharf in the York-road—while I was taking down the ceiling I saw Betteridge, and he said I had not pulled down enough, I was to pull down some more—he told me where to place the rubbish—he told me he required the ceiling to be removed to put some empty barrels and boxes underneath, in order that the fire might get through the shop quicker than it would if the ceiling was not removed—I
<hi rend="italic">eased</hi> a board under the counter, I mean I wrenched it a little up—it was not loose before I loosened it; it could then be lifted up and down—Betteridge directed me to do that—Mr. Betteridge had an errand boy of the name of William Warner at the shop in Whitecross-street—Warner was not on the premises on the night of the fire; he was sent into the country on the Tuesday before—Betteridge told me that was because he had better know nothing about it—a dog was kept at Whitecross-cross street—it was generally kept in the cellar—he was loose, and could go into either cellar—there are two open doorways between</p>
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<p>the two cellars—the dog was not at Whitecross-street on the night of the fire, it was at Islington—I took it there on the Thursday, the day before the fire—I also took some goods and a coffee box—there was some tea and two boxes that were taken from the house—what they contained I do not know—they were not stock from the shop, but something from the house—there were two boxes of tea, the coffee box was empty—it is a box which stands on the counter, with three partitions in it for ground coffee—I believe it was a japanned box—it generally stood on the counter, or somewhere where it might be seen—it was a very good box—there was another coffee box at the shop in Whitecross-street that had been there from the Tuesday night before—it came from Mr. Rose, in Old-street-road—I went there by Mr. Betteridge's direction to fetch it—I paid 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. for it—he had told me how much I was to pay—the time I took the coffee box to the shop at Islington was the last time I was there before the fire— Betteridge directed me to pile up the boxes and chests in the cellar under
<lb/>neath where I had taken the ceiling down—I did so—I placed several empty barrels, and tea boxes, and sago chests, that I fetched from the yard, and some chest lids from the shop—I did not place anything else there, besides the boxes—there was no paper there; after the shop was closed, I put some paper near the cellar door—the shop was closed a little after 10 o'clock—Mr. Betteridge and his housekeeper Charlotte Webber were present when I placed the paper there—Mr. Betteridge told me that it was put there for whoever went down to light it—Webber was present, but she might not have heard that said—we all had supper together that night; and I went to bed a little after 11 o'clock—Mr. Betteridge told me I was to go to bed, and he would call me before the fire got dangerous—I mentioned to him about my clothes—he said there was no chance of its going so far as the top of the house where I slept—I do not know whether either of the prisoners went to bed that night; I went to bed and left them up,—I was called up by Mr. Betteridge, I should think between 12 and 1—he had on his trowsers, shoes, shirt, and braces—I also saw Webber; she was in the same room with Mr. Betteridge; that was the second floor front—she had not her gown on, but she had some underclothes on; what they were I do not know—I went down into the second floor front room, where the prisoners were—the engines had not arrived at the time I entered the room, nor had the fire escape—before they came, and before any one had given the alarm, Mr. Betteridge said to Webber, "Had we not better give the alarm?"—she told him not to be a fool, to let them find it out—I believe the police gave the alarm, there was no alarm from inside the house; the fire escape after
<lb/>wards came, and by that left the house—we went over to Mrs. Seward's, on the other side of the street, for a time—Mr. Betteridge came there, but did not stop there—we went back to the shop; it might have been an hour after, I cannot exactly say, it was as soon as the fire was put down-next morning Webber told me that she lit the fire because Betteridge was a coward—she told me the fire was lit about 12—since the fire Betteridge has conversed with me about it—he said it was put out a quarter of an hour too soon—on the Wednesday after the fire I went to the Monarch Insurance Office—Mr. Humphreys, the surveyor of the Company, was at the shop; and said he wanted me to go with him and Mr. Fogo—the prisoners knew that Mr. Humphreys had asked me to go there—I saw Mr. Jay, Mr. Humphreys, and Mr. Fogo there: I made a communication to them—on my return to Whitecross-street, the prisoners asked me where I had been to; and I told them: and what was said, and I told them—they were both present—I told</p>
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<p>them that the people at the office knew nearly all about it; and Webber said they did not, they had only been
<hi rend="italic">pumping</hi> me—she asked me if I had said why I was to take the ceiling down,—I said, "Yes,"—and she said, if I had not said why I was to take that down, she could have got us out of it by saying that the ceiling fell down into her washing, while she was washing—I know a boy of the name of Ensor—I did not give him anything the day before the fire—I saw some books given to him by Mr. Betteridge; they were the shop books; I believe one was a ledger, what the others were I don't know.—(
<hi rend="italic">A plan was here produced, and the witness pointed out to the Jury the different portions of the premises, and the position of the fire.</hi>)</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were there any lodgers in the house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; the place where I pulled down the ceiling was in the front kitchen, underneath the counter—we generally sat in the kitchen, except on Sundays—the kitchen is behind the store room—the store room is the front room first floor, and the kitchen is behind the store room up one pair of stairs from the shop—then there is the sitting room and a bedroom behind it, where Webber slept—m y master's bedroom had been the store room until the day before the fire; then he removed into the sitting room on the floor, that is a story higher—when I first went into the prisoner's service, Webber was in the country for two months—I was not an apprentice.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined by</hi>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> How old are you?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I shall be seventeen next Oct.—I had been with Mr. Betteridge for twelve months on the 11th of that same month, acting as his shopman during the whole of that period—he was carrying on business at 152, Whitecross-street—he had no other shopman but me and Warner—he was there before me, he is rather younger than me—before I came to Mr. Betteridge I had been living at Wat-lington, in Oxfordshire—I was in service there at a grocer's for three years within a few days, that was my first situation—I had two masters in the same shop—I can read and write—I have not received a very good education—I do not mean that I was very badly brought up—I went to school—I was not in the habit of going to Church, generally to chapel—I was in the habit of going to chapel, not with my master and friends, I generally go by myself—I saw the contents of the parcel that was given to Ensor, I saw it being done up; it was done up in my presence—empty barrels were occasionally kept in the cellar—Webber was in the habit of washing in the back cellar, not in the cellar where I took the ceiling down—there is an opening from one cellar to the other—she has complained of the ceiling falling on her washing, but not in the part where it was pulled down—I do not know that Warner had been promised a holiday for some time before—it had been spoken of about his going into the country long before—his friends live in the country—I do not know that he had asked to go, he had been spoken to about it by Mr. Betteridge, I cannot say how long before—it might have been two or three months, I cannot say—there was a dog there—I do not know what kind of dog it was, I do not understand dogs—I do not know whether it was a terrier—I know the difference between a terrier and a Newfoundland, it was not a small dog, it was more of a bull-dog, I should suppose—I cannot say what it was, it might have been a bull-terrier—I had 5
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>. a week wages, and my board—I do not know that Mr. Cook bad complained of the rats at Islington, and asked for the dog to come there—I know that the rats at Islington had been spoken of, and he had a dog there that killed rats—there was one dog at each shop—there was a complaint made that the rats had actually bitten through the gas pipes at Islington.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Don't you know that one dog was not enough for them, and another</p>
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<p>was required?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Well, the one that was at our place would not touch a rat, or go anywhere near it, to my knowledge—I have seen him run away from a rat—I only knew Mr. Cook from his being with Mr. Betteridge—he had been with him about six weeks, or it might have been more—it was four or five weeks before the fire that Mr. Betteridge first began to speak to me about it—I was not in the habit of going out with Cook; I assisted in clean
<lb/>ing the shop at Islington with Cook before it was opened—I did not take my meals with him then, I came down to Whitecross-street to meals—I was there nearly all one day, and I think I was there a little time after that—I was not in the habit of going out with Cook at any time, not to my know, ledge—I do not remember that I have been out with him—I have never been out with him of an evening, nor of a Sunday—I have certainly walked with him little way towards his house; the way I was going—he lived in River-street, King's-cross—I have been to his apartment there—I do not know who he used to go and see there—I have been there two or three times; he did not invite me, I think I called upon him; I do not remember that he invited me—I have never spent the evening with him there, merely called for a short time—I have not been there with him on a Sunday, not at all that I remember—I have never spent the Sunday with him—there was a woman living in River-street, I do not know her name—I have not, to my know
<lb/>ledge, been there with Cook, except the two or three times that I called there—if I had spent a Sunday with him I could not have forgotten it—I have been with Cook since this matter was investigated at the Police-court—I was with him at Islington, in the same shop where he was—that was after Mr. Betteridge was taken into custody—I think I was in the shop with him nearly a week—he and I were carrying on the business with a young man named Chalmers, who came there on the Saturday night—I have been at Cook's house since that, I do not know how many times; it might have been two or three times perhaps—it has not been a dozen times, I swear that—I went there to visit him; I used not to spend the evening with him, nor the day—I went there merely to speak to him, to see him—I might have had business with him—I went to see him—perhaps I had not any business with him—I do not remember that I had any particular business with him, perhaps I had not any—I went to see him as a friend—I have not spent any Sunday with him since, or taken any meals with him—I have had a cup of coffee at his house one morning—I was there about 10 o'clock, not to breakfast; I had had my breakfast—besides that, I do not remember that I ever drank with him before or since—as near as I can recollect, I think it was between 12 and I when I was roused out of my bed on the night of the fire—I am not able to say whether it was nearer 1 than 12.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have you ever been spoken to by Mr. Betteridge about going down into the cellar with a candle?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, not often; perhaps I have more than once—he has not blamed me for that—he has blamed me for doing things in the shop, if I did anything wrong—that has not been very often of late—he told me after the fire, that I was to say that I went down into the cellar with a candle—he told me to say that—I have mentioned that before—I have not told it to the attorney for the prosecution—I do not remember that Mr. Bet
<lb/>teridge has complained of my going down into the cellar with a lighted candle—I went to bed on that night, knowing that the fire was going to happen, I undressed myself, and latched my door—no one could get in from the outside without forcing the door open—I went to sleep, and was roused out of a genuine sleep; I did not sham sleep, I could not help going to sleep; I tried to keep awake—some of my clothes were in the bedroom.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Were you not so fast asleep when Mr. Betteridge came up stairs, that he was obliged to force the door open in order to rouse you up?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes, he did force it open; the prisoners and I escaped by means of the fire escape—the escape man and the police were there at that time, not the firemen—the engine had not arrived—there were a few persons outside, not a great many, not so many as might have been thought—I cannot say whether Mr. Betteridge had his stockings on.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> I understand you to say that you came from Watlington, in Oxfordshire?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Yes; Mr. Betteridge comes from the same place—I did not know him there—I knew who he was before I went into his employment—William Warner, who was with him, wrote to me, to ask if I wanted a situation—I had no friends in town—I had a friend living in the Kingsland-road—I have been at Watlington for four weeks since the prisoner's committal, sometimes with my old master, and sometimes with my friends—my father and mother live there—I did not intentionally go to sleep on this night—I had been at work during the day, and fell asleep without intending to do so—my door was not difficult to open; it might be forced very easily—some of my clothes were in my bedroom; the others were at Islington—I took them there myself, because I thought I would not stand the chance of their getting burnt.</p>
<p>
<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What time did you generally go to bed?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Between 11 and 12 o'clock generally; I did not sit up later than usual on this night—I generally took my meals with my master, and the female prisoner also—we did not breakfast, dine, and sup together—we very seldom had breakfast together—Warner and were generally up before the others, and we generally had our breakfast before them—Webber was very seldom up before us—we got up about 7, and I generally opened the shop, and Warner lighted the fire—we supped together on this evening—I did not drink more than usual—I never drink any intoxicating liquor, I did not drink any beer, I never take any; I choose to go without—it was before the fire that I was assisting Cook in cleaning out the shop at Islington—I have had no quarrel with my master of any kind, or with the housekeeper—he has not found fault with me for the last three or four months—I had not had any blame that I remember—I was not his apprentice, nor was Warner, that I know of.</p>
<p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-167" type="given" value="WILLIAM JOSEPH"/>WILLIAM JOSEPH COOK</persName> </hi>. I formerly lived at 46, Chapel-street, Islington. I was employed there, as shopman to the prisoner, from the commencement of May—that was about the time the prisoner took the shop—we were not doing the trade we expected we should do—about the 10th May the prisoner told me that he contemplated setting fire to his house and premises in White-cross-street; that he should do it for the sake of claiming a greater amount from the Insurance Company than he was insured for, or the goods that would be destroyed rather.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What did you say to this?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I made no remark particularly—I heard the conversation—he was my employer—previous to the fire various things were sent from the shop in Whitecross-street to my shop, various goods, stock for the shop in Chapel-street—no books were sent—a dog was sent the day previous to the fire, or the same day—he told me he should send it up out of the way—he also told me that he should send the lad Warner out of the way for a holiday into the country—two chests were sent to me the day previous to the fire, I believe, and some tea—there were clothes in the chest belonging to Webber, and some belonging to Mr. Betteridge—neither of them slept at my house—I remember receiving a coffee box a day or two previous to the fire—it was sent up from the shop in Whitecross-street—I</p>
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<p>did not know that it was coming until it arrived—Webber afterwards came up to remove it, as inquiries bad been made respecting it, and she removed it from where it had been deposited and hid it in the cellar below the shop—that was after the fire; it might be three or four days after—she said she was sent up by Mr. Betteridge to secrete the tin—it had been placed in a room up stairs—she had it brought down and she hid it in the cellar—I did not see it afterwards—I saw her go into the cellar with it, and there is no outlet besides; she could not have gone anywhere else—I saw Mr. Betteridge the night after the fire, and he told me of the fire—I said I had heard of it, and asked him if it was burnt effectually or thoroughly destroyed—he said, no, it was not, it was discovered too soon—he afterwards told me that if any in
<lb/>quiries were made respecting the two chests, I was to say they were my property—he told me that Judge had been taken to the Monarch Fire office to be examined, and he was afraid he had told too much, or words to that effect—Webber came to me on the Friday afternoon, as the fire took place in the morning, to change her dress—she requested one of the boxes to be taken up stairs—it was taken up stairs, and she changed her dress and left the place—she did not say anything to me before leaving—after the first examination before the Magistrate she came up to Chapel-street, and asked me what I should do or what I should say if I was examined or asked any question—I said I should tell the truth, and she remarked that there was not a hole for them to creep out of—I did not know anything of Mr. Betteridge's affairs, only from what he told me about the time of commencing, that he was rather embarrassed—he did not say that he was short of money, but that he had been refused an extension of credit at a certain house he dealt with, and they wished him to reduce his account, which he bad done.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you given any information to the fire office?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I had a communication with Mr. Jay, I think on the Tuesday following the fire, but I will not be certain as to the date—I believe Mr. Jay is the manager of the office—I believe I had no communication with him before that—I should be sorry to swear it—I have no memorandum to the effect when I saw him, that I am aware of, only by recollection—it must have been either on the Monday or Tuesday I am quite certain—the fire happened on the Thursday night.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> And on the Monday or Tuesday you made some communication to Mr. Jay; did you go to the office yourself?
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> My Lord, am I bound to answer that question?</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>. Certainly.
<hi rend="italic">Witness.</hi> Well, I did.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. PARRY</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> What made you ask my lord, "Am I bound to answer that question?" what was your motive?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I do not know that I had any particular motive; I swear that I had no particular motive—I am about thirty-seven years old—at the time I was at the shop at Islington I lived in the house, I had one room there—I did not live anywhere else—I had my meals cooked, and sent to me, and I had other things done for me—I had not known Judge before I went there, only by seeing him behind the counter in Whitecross-street—that was, I think, about last Christmas—I do not think I saw him there before that, because I was engaged in another situation—I left my situation last Christmas, and I called on Mr. Betteridge because I had known him, and trans
<lb/>acted business with him—Judge had never been in my company at all before I came to Islington, I merely saw him behind the counter—he was sent to Isling
<lb/>ton to assist me on Saturday evening when we were busy—we opened on a Saturday—after that Judge was not in the habit of seeing me, or being in my company, only when he was sent by the prisoner on business—I will swear</p>
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<p>that—there is no mistake about that—I know River-street—I lodged at 23, River-street, previous to going to Chapel-street—I was not in the habit of sleeping there while I was in Chapel-street—I used to go there to get something for dinner next day, and come back to the shop and sleep—I might have a bit of supper there, and go back to my own place to sleep, because I had no one to cook for me at the other place—Judge has been to River-street to see me since this occurrence; he knew where to find me—I have no recol
<lb/>lection of his calling on me there whilst I was at Islington—he might have called on a Sunday—I would not swear that he has or not—he has perhaps called on me three or four times, or perhaps more, since the investigation at the police court—he had no particular business with me—he merely called as a friend, I suppose he is a stranger in London, he has no relatives here, nor have I—a Mrs. Cableton lives at 23, River-street—Mr. Betteridge never complained to me that I had let her have some tea without paying for it—he never said a word to roe on the subject, I can explain the circumstance you allude to—the party I had appartments with was in the habit, from the first commencement of our business, of ordering a few things every week, which was regularly entered—I believe hers was the first order in our book—she gave an order for two quarter pounds of tea to be sent in one parcel—she brought the tea back in the afternoon, and said, before the parties in the shop, "You have made a mistake with my tea"—she took it out of a basket and I did it up in two quarter pounds, and she carried it home—no com
<lb/>plaint was made about that, but a person called that night and said that he had followed Mrs. Cableton from the shop, and tried to make an accusation against me in the presence of Mr. Drew, who is sitting there, it was about 12 o'clock at night, I do not see the person in Court who made it—Mr. Betteridge did not make any complaint—he was then in custody—Mrs. Cableton is a married person—her husband is away at present, and is expected home soon—he has been away for some months—I am not married—before I came to Mr. Betteridge I lived in the Gray's Inn-road, with a Mrs. Palmer, managing a business—I was there rather better than twelve months—I have been for a short time on the Croydon and Epsom railway—no other—I was discharged from there in consequence of a reduction taking place in the number of hands for the winter months—that was the reason given me—I had been there about four months—I have been at Exeter—I was there perhaps a month or six weeks—I was never on the Great Western line, or any branch of it—it was about 10th May that Mr. Betteridge made use of the expressions to me about contemplating the fire.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> You never communicated with the fire office until it had happened?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I did not know what office he was insured in till after it had happened—I made an inquiry the week before, but did not find out—when I say I made inquiry, allow me to explain, the shop in Chapel-street was about being insured, and the policy was sent back in consequence of the name being spelt wrong, and some other errors in it, and I merely asked if the policy had come from the same office—that had no reference to the fire.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> But at that time you knew the fire was going to happen, according to your account?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I knew the prisoner had spoken of it, but I never thought be would have nerve to do it, and I have said so before—I have lived at Brighton, in Weston-street; I carried on business there—I left suddenly without paying my rent, but I left stock to pay it, and the rent was partly paid when I left, if not nearly all paid—my creditors inquired after me, and I instructed one to sell the goods and to pay themselves, and they were paid as far as it would go—I left early in the morning, by the 6 or 7</p>
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<p>up train; I do not know which it is, three or four years ago—I took the key of my shop with me as a matter of course—I cannot say what amount of dehts I owed at that time—I do not know how much was paid—I never had any account given me, and never inquired for it.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">MR. BALLANTINE</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Have any proceedings been taken against you for the recovery of anything beyond what you left stock for?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; on the other hand I have since done business with one or two of the parties, they gave me credit, and would be glad to do business with me again—they know where to find me; it is no secret—no proceedings of an adverse character have been taken against me—one party who supplied me in Chapel-street knew and recognised me.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Am I to understand you to say that you did not believe the man would set fire to his house?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> I thought he never would have nerve to do it, as I said before—I first learned that he was insured at the Monarch, on the Satur
<lb/>day after the fire, and either on the Monday or Tuesday I made a communi
<lb/>cation to them of the facts—I had a communication with Mr. Jay—I was lodging with this Mrs. Cableton; I had the use of a room, and she cooked for me, and attended to my linen and so on, previous to my going to Chapel, street; there is no other connection between us whatever—her husband is a petty-officer in Her Majesty's service, so I have been given to understand, and at present on service—I believe she was the first person who opened an account with us at Islington—at the time of the transaction about the tea, which has been mentioned, Mr. Betteridge was in custody, and I have never seen him since—Mr. Drew was in the shop at the time the person came and made the complaint—Mr. Drew was acting for Mr. Betteridge, as he told me, and had his affairs assigned over to him—he gave me my discharge from Chapel-street—I think he is acting as attorney for Mr. Betteridge, that is the gentleman (
<hi rend="italic">pointing to him</hi>)—when I was discharged from the Croydon and Epsom line the inspector told me that those who had been the last taken on were the first to leave when a reduction took place.</p>
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<hi rend="smallCaps">COURT</hi>.
<hi rend="italic">Q.</hi> Did you keep on the lodging in River-street, after you went to Chapel-street?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> No; but I paid Mrs. Cableton for washing and cook
<lb/>ing for me, and I used to go there on a Sunday to meet her brother, and drink tea and dine with him—if Judge came there he would find me there, but I have no recollection of his spending an hour or two with me—I do not recollect ever giving him any coffee there—I might if I was having breakfast, but no invitation ever passed that I am aware of.</p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-168" type="given" value="JOHN"/>JOHN ENSOR</persName> </hi>. I live at 11, John's-row, St. Luke's, with my cousin. I know Betteridge's shop, in Upper Whitecross-street—I remember the fire there—I called at the shop the night before the fire—my mistress sent me into Whitecross-street to buy some meat, and I called into Mr. Betteridge's, to speak to Henry Judge—Mr. Betteridge was in the shop, and gave me a brown paper parcel—I do not know what it contained—I
<hi rend="italic">chucked</hi> it behind the counter, at my cousin's, and do not know what became of it.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> Had you been in the habit of going backwards and forwards?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> Not very often; I called in as I was going by, as a friend—I sometimes went there on errands for my master, who is a greengrocer and cheesemonger—parcels were sent backwards and forwards—we had chicory from there, which we used to put into the coffee—we did not get sand for the sugar there; we never use it.</p>
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<interp inst="t18520816-name-169" type="given" value="HANNAH ANN"/>HANNAH ANN ROSE</persName> </hi>. I am the wife of Mr. Rose, a fixture-dealer, of Old-street-road. I remember seeing Betteridge at our shop once previous to the fire—he agreed to buy a coffee-box for 3
<hi rend="italic">s</hi>.—it was fetched away in the</p>
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<p>evening, by a young man, who I believe to be Judge, but I cannot speak positively—I do not know the date—it was either the 23rd or 24tb, not more than two days before the fire—it must have been between the 21st and 25th—some pieces of a box were shown to me at the police-court which were about the size, and I believe them to be the same.</p>
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<hi rend="italic">Cross-examined. Q.</hi> What was the box?
<hi rend="italic">A.</hi> It was for keeping coffee in; all coffee boxes are made much alike—I never saw one brown—this was an old one—it was such a box as a grocer might innocently use.</p>
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