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<p>664.
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<p>I live at the prosecutor's in
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<p>What is the firm of the house? - Joseph and
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<interp inst="t17860830-4-person81" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> ; on Thursday the 27th of July the prisoner came into the shop, between two and three, and asked for some black lace; I took down a box and shewed her some, and she took up one piece; there was another person in the shop, that was serving another customer; she is here as a witness; I shewed her a piece of black lace, and asked her two shillings and tenpence, but told her I would take two shillings and nine-pence; she bid me measure it, and there was nine yards; she asked what it came to, I turned round and took a pen and cast it up, and it came to one pound four shillings and nine pence.</p>
<p>Did you turn from her? - Yes, and the mean while I turned, she took a piece of lace; I was obliged to turn my back to her to get the pen; she then said, she would not give me any more than a guinea for; I then looked in my box, and missed a piece of black silk lace.</p>
<p>How much might there be in this piece? - Twelve yards; the prisoner said, she would give no more than a guinea; so missing the pice of lace, I said, if you will stop, I will see if there is any thing here that will do for you; I looked in one box, and then in another; she went away and got two doors from us; I went after her, and said, you have taken a piece of lace, and she said, she had no such thing about her, and while
<persName id="t17860830-4-person82"> Elizabeth South
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<interp inst="t17860830-4-person82" type="gender" value="female"/> </persName> who was in the shop serving, went up stairs, she put her hand and dropped two cards of lace; I heard them drop, and I said, there you wicked devil! you have dropped two cards of lace.</p>
<p>Can you swear it dropped from her? - Yes, I can; I saw her put her hand down; I heard them drop; there was the laces; and one by putting it into her pocket was off the card; I took up two pieces of black silk lace, twelve yards in each; they were the property of the prosecutors; I can swear to the private marks that was upon the cards, one of the marks is, E. P. and P. R; they are the hand writing of Mr.
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<interp inst="t17860830-4-person83" type="gender" value="male"/> </persName> ; I can swear to the writing; the one I missed first is marked P. R. she dropped two, but I missed only that one; I know the pattern; we had only one of that pattern, which made me miss it.</p>
<p>Did you ever examine to see if the other was missing? - I did after we had been at the Justice's; the second card of lace was in the shop that morning before the prisoner came, and we had sold none that day; we sell it for three shillings and four-pence; it costs us two shillings and sixpence.</p>
<p>Was it an old house keeper? - I fancy we have had it about a twelvemonth; the other was twelve yards, valued at twenty-pence per yard.</p>
<p>Had you any idea of this woman's taking it? - I had not, till I saw it was gone.</p>
<p>Did you see her at any time make any mot on at which time you might conceive she took it? - No, not at all.</p>
<p>She did nothing that could induce you at the time to think she was taking it? - No.</p>
<p>Jury. Pray had she any money in her hand? - I did not see any; I did not search her.</p>
<p>Mr. Garrow, Prisoner's Counsel. You say you did not search her yourself, was not she searched by any body? - She was not searched at all.</p>
<p>Not in the back parlour? - No.</p>
<p>Nor in the shop? - No, not at all.</p>
<p>Was she so long in the shop as twenty minutes before you followed her? - I dare say she was.</p>
<p>Yours is a pretty large shop? - Yes.</p>
<p>How many people were backwards and forwards in the shop? - There were two people, but they were gone, besides Bartlet and South; the customers were gone before I shewed her the lace.</p>
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<xptr type="pageFacsimile" doc="178608300008"/>Are you sure of that? - Positive of that; I was on the opposite side of the counter.</p>
<p>Were they men or women? - It was a man and a woman.</p>
<p>Court. Was there no lace lying about the counter? - None at all; they never lay about the counter; we sold the other customer black Barcelona handkerchiefs.</p>
<p>Mr. Garrow. Was
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<p>She is not here? - No.</p>
<p>You had not sold any lace in the course of that morning. - No.</p>
<p>How many persons serve in the shop besides you? - There are two persons besides me, two shopmen; the shopmen were at home; they had never shewn any lace that day; the men are never allowed to shew lace till I am present.</p>
<p>How near was this woman to the counter at the time you supposed the lace to have fallen from her? - She might be the space of half a yard.</p>
<p>With her back to the counter? - No, her face to the counter.</p>
<p>From which side do you suppose this lace to have fallen? - The right hand pocket; I was standing at her right hand side.</p>
<p>As soon as she went out of the shop you overtook her, before she got two doors from the shop? - Yes.</p>
<p>Then of course you went out almost immediately after? - Certainly, Sir.</p>
<p>Now I wish you to swear positively, if you chuse it, and recollect that the life of that woman depends on your answer perhaps; will you venture to swear that the lace did not fall from the counter? - Yes, I will.</p>
<p>Did you see it drop? - No, I heard it drop, and that is sufficient.</p>
<p>A pretty common lace for a cloak is it not? - It is not a common ordinary cloak lace.</p>
<p>Is not it a very usual cloak lace? - Yes.</p>
<p>Now how many thousand yards like that do you think I could purchase in the street where you live? - I cannot say to that pattern.</p>
<p>Court. Are they both common laces? - Yes.</p>
<p>Mr. Garrow. Are not they both remnants? - We do not look upon it as a remnant; there are different lengths.</p>
<p>How much is there in a piece? - There were thirty-three yards of this originally; now there are twelve yards, a proper quantity for a cloak.</p>
<p>Do you take this to be a whole piece? - Sometimes we have them in twelve yards.</p>
<p>Upon your oath do not you know it is not a whole piece, look at it, has there been none cut from it? - It may be cut.</p>
<p>Upon your oath has it not been cut? - I am not sure, I cannot say.</p>
<p>Upon your oath has it not been cut, and do not you know it has? - I have not cut it myself.</p>
<p>Upon your oath are not you sure it has been cut? - I told you I cannot tell nothing at all about it; I cannot take my oath to it.</p>
<p>Do not you know it has been cut by the inspection of it? - It may have been cut.</p>
<p>Do you believe it has not been cut? - I cannot tell.</p>
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<p>I live with a friend, one Mrs. Brown, in Silver-street, Mrs. Brown and I always use the shop for what we want; and I happened to be in the shop, and saw the prisoner there, (and I saw Mrs. Crocket shewing her lace,) on the 27th of July, between two and three; I am sure it was the prisoner; I was in the shop, and the other shop-woman was serving me; her name is
<persName id="t17860830-4-person86"> Elizabeth Bartlett
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<p>And you saw no more than that? - I saw the lace on the ground as Mrs. Crocket moved the prisoner.</p>
<p>How near might the lace be to the prisoner?
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<p>Mr. Garrow You was purchasing something of Miss
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<interp inst="t17860830-4-person87" type="gender" value="female"/> </persName> I understand? - Yes.</p>
<p>And then you saw the lace on the ground? - Yes.</p>
<p>Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel.</p>
<p>The prisoner called three witnesses, who all gave her a very good character.</p>
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<p>Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. ROSE.</p>
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